battlefield-2042

[tardy tree]

i cant wait for the kaleidoscope changes to come through

[hallow sierra]

does anyone else think discarded is a good map

[tardy tree]

sundance jumping and wingsuiting from f sector to c sector is nutty

no

discarded is ass

[hallow sierra]

i mean if u camp at a2 youre fine

[white lynx]

hey how can i send feedback about the server to the admins / mods

[grizzled whale]

message @clear spade

[tardy tree]

we should have a suggestions channel 💀

[hallow sierra]

a1 is ass but a2 is good with sundance

[visual horizon]

for the server or for 2042? they did a survey here for 2042 a while ago, some good stuff was shared with the devs

[hallow sierra]

i seen servers dat have suggestion channels and it doesnt turn out right once in a while

[arctic grove]

it sucks without it big time

[next onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/840006062575976468/987037170621632512/unknown.png

[visual horizon]

funny

meme easter egg funny meme

[next onyx]

Leaning is good but I don't want it back because of how much is was abused by in bf5.

[hallow sierra]

how was it abuse in bf5 u mean for campers

[white lynx]

i am gonna suggerst merging all the looking for games channels to one channel since we have crossplay

[arctic grove]

yes i wanna abuse it pls i mean cover sucks when cant lean

[next onyx]

Lots of comp. -.-

[arctic grove]

[hallow sierra]

wait what happen

[arctic grove]

[next onyx]

People basically near impossible to shoot.

[hallow sierra]

yesterday i keep getting discarded now i aint getting any

[next onyx]

When angled correctly that is.

Which was pretty consistent.

[arctic grove]

thats the point

[next onyx]

Just feels cheesy.

[wise yew]

so your saying... you have slow reaction timing then.

[next onyx]

Nah.

[hallow sierra]

wait and the ttk is low making it hard to react

[wise yew]

also anyone been able to do the weekly mutikill w explosives? ive gotten three kills of three players w c5 and nothing so far.

[arctic grove]

[grizzled whale]

wow theres a bot dead game dead game dead game

[silk surge]

This is the weirdest colateral I've ever gotten 😂😂 Didn't even notice him back there.

[hallow sierra]

i just use sundance

[next onyx]

Just fighting people knowing how to abuse it has made me hate it.

[arctic grove]

• insert death threats to dice devs *

[wise yew]

you are not answering my question. thanks.

[arctic grove]

[silk surge]

We truly live in a society

[wise yew]

will take that as a no. ty guys. will keep trying. probably glitched.

[arctic grove]

Where the 2042 reddit is something

💀

[silk surge]

Tbh, 2042 main subreddit has gotten a bit better since season 1 dropped. It's not a complete cesspool anymore.

[grizzled whale]

was the oposite for me, didnt actually see the guy in the back, but didnt expect the mackay

[arctic grove]

Yup, sadly there's still people complaining about everything in comments about people posting something good about 2042

they are so blind that I have already seen a lot of people missing the DLC service from previous games

[fiery shoal]

which is weird because it was literally just a map, a specialist and a couple of weapons added...

[grizzled whale]

the map showed competence

[fiery shoal]

all the other complaints about this game still exist outside of standard patching/updates

[fiery shoal]

i mean, id argue 3/6 launch maps were competent/good

[tardy tree]

in the server

[fiery shoal]

manifest, orbital and discarded

[grizzled whale]

yea but the cavedwellers on reddit wont

[tardy tree]

id say the only good launch map is like

[pastel reef]

I just reinstalled after not playing since ~ January.

[tardy tree]

kaleidoscope or something

even though theres a lack of cover

its a really pretty map

[fiery shoal]

thats like... bottom 2 for just about everyone

[tardy tree]

and it reminds me a lot of shanghai

from bf4

[arctic grove]

i would like a regional channel, but I don't know how they would do it to moderate it

[fiery shoal]

id say kaleidoscope and breakaway are by far the most hated maps in 2042

[arctic grove]

i just hate hourglass

[tardy tree]

i forget whats breakaway again

isnt it the oil rig

[fiery shoal]

the ice map

[tardy tree]

yeah

that ones alright i guess

its not my favorite though

they totally couldve collapsed the oil rig but they chose not to for some reason

levolution would be nice💀

[fiery shoal]

manifest > discarded > exposure > orbital > hourglass > kaleidoscope > breakaway

(infantry conquest)

[tardy tree]

hmm

id say discarder is lower than exposure

in my opinion

[white lynx]

do occupying forces killed count towards mastery

[fiery shoal]

honestly i was thinking the same, they are close though

i REALLY like fighting in the low water area in discarded though, and the ship is generally fun

[tardy tree]

but the lack of any life in between objectives is so horrible

theres like nothing

[fiery shoal]

i feel like better highs in discarded, but overall exposure is a better map

[tardy tree]

exposure is like the best map weve seen in battlefield for a hot minute

i also want hardline to come back i really liked that damn game

off topic i know but still

[fiery shoal]

sadly i never got it

[slim quiver]

it was good

[tardy tree]

they did something different for once and it was awesome

but now its dead as hell

[white lynx]

well only 13 more extracts in HZ and i get the trophy

[slim quiver]

battlefield needs more spin offs

[tardy tree]

ong

like bad company

[visual horizon]

i actually really like Kaleidescope

[tardy tree]

this guy gets it

its a good map

[white lynx]

once they add some cover kaleidescope will be a goated map

[next onyx]

Kaleido is... Eh.

[white lynx]

thats my only issue with it

[tardy tree]

itll be top tier when they add the new stuff to it

[next onyx]

Keep to B, D and E and if no vehicles attack and you get a good close match you've won the god damn lottery.

[fiery shoal]

i love the rooftop fights and middle objective... but thats about it

[tardy tree]

the changes look so good

especially to renewal

renewal is pretty cool

[white lynx]

hey waygyanba, have you guys considered making the looking for games channel a single channel, i made a mod mail about it

[hidden sand]

Orbital and Exposure are the only two decent maps in the game imo.

[tardy tree]

orbital is alright but that open runway is a deathtrap if youre on foot

[next onyx]

We've been looking into it.

[tardy tree]

theres no cover anywhere on that side of the map

[next onyx]

Manifest is probably the only decent vanilla map.

[vocal adder]

manifest is alright

[fiery shoal]

im always surprised how people seemingly dont care for manifest, i think that map is an outright banger

[tardy tree]

ehhh

[next onyx]

Plays pretty alright.

[tardy tree]

manifest is pretty cool

[white lynx]

honestly, if the game just had a bunch of destructable cover msot maps woudl be muc hbeter

[next onyx]

Yeah I'm probably sick of it.

[tardy tree]

what about bfv buildable cover

[hidden sand]

It doesn't play well on last gen in my opinion.

[fiery shoal]

manifest has a bunch of verticality and cover, lots of options all over the place, easy to get to a new fight if you find yourself in a deadzone too

i think thats one of my biggest concerns for a bf game, is how fast i can get into another fight if i somehow find myself in a boring area

[hidden sand]

I don't think much thought was put into the last gen versions of the maps, tbh. Manifest has next to no cover on that one.

Discarded is the absolute worst offender though. The 64 version of that is horrendous.

[hallow sierra]

but defense is good if u have sundance and k30

[white lynx]

idk ive been enjoying it a lot recently

[vocal adder]

why would you put melee in challenges just why ???

[white lynx]

i jsut wish i could upgrade my edition

[hallow sierra]

idk tbh and besides melee sucks

i have those moments where ppl try to melee me but still die anyway

[white lynx]

cant you do challenges in solo co op or portal

[iron warren]

[woven lava]

Can anyone complete the explosive challenge ? I used c5, and sundance scatter grenade and I didn’t get it

[hidden sand]

Star Wars pls
Then we can actually get a proper Battlefront game kek

[umbral vigil]

Good morning chat

[slim quiver]

Battlefront 2 wasn’t bad

It came back pretty strong

[hidden sand]

It's not bad, but it's only Battlefront in name. The gameplay is nothing like the series it's trying to be.

[boreal pendant]

Kaleido has so much potential i hope the rework does it well

[hidden sand]

The class system was like the originals though, which was nice

[uncut bay]

so you have a challenging challenge

[hidden sand]

Well, in functionality, they were moreso pre-defined loadouts without actual roles in gameplay

[royal trail]

Battlefield 2042 is 50% off at steam till the 22th

[white lynx]

my friend said 50 is not enough so i am still playing solo

[royal trail]

rip

[slim quiver]

Well yeah it was a battlefield spin off

[vocal adder]

BF2 is acutally better then the original i reckon it was just missing a few more reinforcements and some heroes and alot of weapons

[hidden sand]

SWBF2 being more like Battlefield would have significantly helped that game, imo. Because the originals were trying to be exactly that, Battlefield with a Star Wars coat of paint.

[mossy badge]

Jedi fallen order 2

[ripe hedge]

You can guarantee the day I leave DICE or retire, Battlefield 40K gets greenlit

[royal trail]

they should add bf2142 to portal with titan mode and everything

[hidden sand]

Battlestar Galactica would be a great setting for a BF game, too

[slim quiver]

Thats fucking awesome

Id love that

[ripe hedge]

Same but, knowing my luck, it won't happen in my lifetime

[hidden sand]

Gah the money I'd give for a BSG BF game

[violet sandal]

are there any speculations on what the next bf could be about

[vocal adder]

I would really want another battle for middle earth 🙂

its most likey gonna be bad company 3 no doubt about it

[royal trail]

bad company 3 where you can destroy absolutely everything like in the second game would be awesome

[violet sandal]

korean war

[royal trail]

but this time with more complex buildings than some papercottages

[mental delta]

BF6 I hope

[violet sandal]

bf6 is

[mental delta]

Is what ?

[violet sandal]

isnt it

out

technically

[mental delta]

No ?

BF2042 isn't BF6 at all

[ripe hedge]

The Spanish Inquisition

[violet sandal]

Bet

[mental delta]

Hey can I just ask if we are getting Portal weapons to AOW soon, or you're simply not allowed to answer

[vocal adder]

next battlefield should be Napoleonic Wars let's roll out the muskets

[wide shore]

Battlefield Civil War

[fiery shoal]

bc 3

[hidden sand]

I just pretend 2042 is set right before humans make cylons in Battlestar Galactica to have my BSG BF game

[low timber]

But then Neebs would’ve been correct all along.

[hidden sand]

It works, for now

[wide shore]

They always are

[low timber]

Exposure breakthrough is great, I’ve gotten more progress on my Irish mastery in a single round than I have gotten in the past 6 months

[hidden sand]

It'll be modern day or a prequel/sequel to 2042

[vocal adder]

i hope the veiled threat helm gets a body outfit soon

[violet sandal]

is any gamemode for bfv alive

[low timber]

Currently on 1726/1920 to T2.

[vocal adder]

i can mix it with other outfits but i would like a full set

[mental delta]

I hope a game which has his proper lore and which sets in 2020

[hidden sand]

Sadly we're probably not going back to past events anytime soon, I think that's a guarantee

[violet sandal]

wrong channel mb

[mental delta]

Yup probably most of them

[violet sandal]

bfv a masterpiece vs 2042

[slender gyro]

idk why but I've been calling Exposure, Exodus this whole time

[hidden sand]

Sadly tank gameplay still consists of never pushing and sitting a few good meters back from the objective, taking out enemies

[vocal adder]

wait did the weekly rewards go ?

[mental delta]

Probably settled a lot of confusion

[hidden sand]

I was talking about eras the next BF could be in lol.

Tanks can't push in this game and it's really boring, but ah well

Gotta unlock the rest of the equipment somehow

[ripe hedge]

Soon

[low timber]

™️

[vocal adder]

Please add the m16a3 and type 88 lmg and m60e3 and m60, 2042 really needs lmgs 😄

[slim quiver]

id like this, dont give me hope

honestly ive wanted a civil war or crusades battlefield game. Or a pirates BF game

[vocal adder]

or replace the m60 with xm8 lmg

[slim quiver]

just a whole game with battlefield with boats and muskets

[low timber]

Alex was the 12M auto short barrel fixed? As before the only difference was that you lost some velocity, but now I noticed that with short barrel it at least sounds faster, though the stats still says 300 rpm on both.

[hidden sand]

Pirates game is one I've been hoping for in the back of mind

Specifically because of AC black flag, something like but with MP would be awesome

[vocal adder]

G3A3 also to 2042 would be lovely 😄

[slim quiver]

Well for BF boats to work 128 players would be needed

[low timber]

Skull and bones? It’s the standalone MP game made with Black Flag as the base

Wasn’t that also revealed back on the same E3 as Sea of Thieves?

[slim quiver]

Frigate ships had basically 32 cannons and it would be cool to have like 32 people on cannons

1 captain (driver)

3 spotters

And a few people on smaller cannon guns

[dire quest]

32 people on 1 ship? Wack

[slim quiver]

More

Ships had crews of over 300 men

Especially frigates

[ripe jacinth]

I would be hard press to organize 300 gamers...

[dire quest]

That's like battlefield 1 but all 32 players in the blimp

[slim quiver]

Hollywood always condenses ship combat down to like 50 people

[ripe jacinth]

god bless that captain

[slim quiver]

Just make it 128

So that you have 64 on each ship

[hidden sand]

Damn imagine that with the destruction FB has. That would be fucking awesome.

[slim quiver]

Or split into multiple ships with smaller people

But battlefield destruction in ship combat

All that wood splintering from cannon balls

The fire that you could set on sails

[mental delta]

That's an answer I have to take, thanks

[inner widget]

yummy splinters 🥰

[ripe jacinth]

I would love that the naval combat maps from bf4 were some of my favorite i'd play that in a older setting for sure

[slim quiver]

Naval combat sadly in BF4 was a shell of what 1942 was

With destroyers

Submarines

[hidden sand]

Damnit zzzy why you gotta bring up good ideas like that lmao
I would give so much money for that

[slim quiver]

It was amazing

[slim quiver]

Because I want it to happen so badly

The cannons could have all the different types of ammo pirates used too. That could be the gadget

Bundle shot cannons

[tardy tree]

genuine question, do you play on adding larger destruction events to the future maps? do you know or naw

[ripe jacinth]

a bunch of metal scrap

[slim quiver]

Which used to tie ropes around two balls, you’d aim at the mast and fire, the rope would rip around the pole of the mask and disable the ship

[hidden sand]

I wish EA would allow DICE to take riskier ideas. I'm sure we could've gotten some really interesting spinoffs if it wasn't stuck purely to what we've had. They essentially had to beg EA for BF1 to be greenlit, dor instance.

[slim quiver]

If you hit a person it would basically rip you in two

[visual horizon]

Alex, i'd love a 2042 take on the AK-74u, can we make this happen?

[slim quiver]

New themes would really spice up the series without having to make massive changes to a class system

You don’t need to change the core necessarily, since the theme itself would change the flow of the game and the style you play

Theme is a huge factor in BF games, we just don’t notice it because we keep getting the same themes

[white lynx]

I was just glad this game wasn't set in a past war

I don't play any games with historical war settings , didn't even bother with cod vanguard

[tardy tree]

i actually played vanguard for a bit and let me say

dont attaack me lmao

i really enjoyed it

[uncut bay]

don't even want to imagine what the backlash would've been like if the game was set during a world war and came out this bad

[tardy tree]

i had genuine fun playing that game

[ripe jacinth]

This theme had a lot of potential it just was poorly utilized imo

[unborn herald]

what

vanguard is literally the worse

[white lynx]

Cod overall is hard to go wrong, I just find the setting boring personally

[tardy tree]

i know right

then i played it

[unborn herald]

campaign is a lazy written story

[tardy tree]

and i had FUN

like

actual fun

[unborn herald]

can’t imagine this being in the next cod

[hidden sand]

I'm really curious on how DICE would approach something like Pirates. Especially in art style.

[unborn herald]

then pricing it at 70

[white lynx]

Cold war was better than modern warfare that's my hot tale

[uncut bay]

wish i could play cw and vanguard campaigns. Not willing to spend triple A price just for them

[unborn herald]

for the same formula

[tardy tree]

bro

genuinely

cold war zombies

was so much fun

[unborn herald]

Cold War zombies is good

[white lynx]

I know it was different but so great

[tardy tree]

cold war is worth

honest

multiplayer is fun

zombies is cool

and the campaign is a total blast

[ripe jacinth]

yeah i had fun playing vanguard too but it that doesnt change the fact is was lack luster for it being a AAA cod game

[tardy tree]

yeah

[white lynx]

Also

[uncut bay]

nah not after mw19. Plus new one is around the corner, i'll wait until it goes 90% sale or something

[tardy tree]

it was very unoriginal

but it was still pretty fun

[white lynx]

Black ops 4 was better than black ops 3

[tardy tree]

thats where youre wong

wrong

[ripe jacinth]

however for the new mw2 I havent been this hype for a cod game since maybe the first mw2

[tardy tree]

mw2 looks really good

[white lynx]

Hated bo3. The guns were so ugly by the end of it I couldn't stand any of the weapons .

[ripe jacinth]

bo1 is the best bo game change my mind

[white lynx]

Also I much prefer the semi realistic movement in bo4 over bo3 jetpacks

[uncut bay]

i actually enjoyed bo3 quite a bit, have lots of fond memories playing with friends on it, same with aw. Campaign for bo3 was horrible though

[iron galleon]

Hey, someone having problem with the multi kill weekly quest? I used c4 and grande, but is not unlocking.

[ripe jacinth]

throw another grande

or even a venti

[white lynx]

That challenge seems too frustrating

Esp since I'm trying to level up my latv

[uncut bay]

nah it'll be easy asf on breakthrough, even cq

just throw c4 at any choke point and you have an insta multikill

[white lynx]

True I miss 128 breakthrough

That's how I got paik done so fast

[restive magnet]

You need 3+ kills for multi. Go for vehicles

[uncut bay]

you'll have an easier time blowing up infantry

unless you're good at sneaking up on tanks

[vocal adder]

man the melee on this game is ass

[white lynx]

I hope that dice says they will support the game for another year. I think if they keep updating it and adding stuff it could replace bf4

They just need to prove to players they care

[frozen adder]

Hello
may I ask what's the state of the game ATM?

[uncut bay]

pretty good

[ripe hedge]

Why tho? It's a weapon from the 70's... What does it evoke that we can't do with another weapon? What do you like about it?

[native jacinth]

is there any good way of checking which skins have unique attachment looks?

talking about stuff like the battlepass k30 red dot

[regal sphinx]

Contact Breakthrough is awesome

[arctic grove]

since the Alpha.

[unborn herald]

yea

takedowns look weird

[thorny orchid]

pls tell kevin and the team I love them. Especially kevin

[arctic grove]

Al classic weapon that everyone loves and respects

[regal sphinx]

They care. EA don't.

[tame cobalt]

Why the fuck is c5 drone still a thing in this game?

[native jacinth]

just use dozer's shield if you need melee kills, pretty sure i uninstalled the game around when there was a weekly task for getting a takedown

[white lynx]

My guess is the middle ground between smg and ar. But you're right. There's no reason for it to exist in the game.

[unborn herald]

4 seasons and that's it

[white lynx]

I think there's many other modern / future weapons that would fit in better

[visual horizon]

i like it's shape, it just looks nice and i think it could look really sweet updated; plus, it's felt great to use in other popular titles, i guess i'd just like to see how it'd feel in 2042

[hidden sand]

The VSS is from the 80s to be fair. Honestly, I think what it comes back to is people enjoying the actual models more than the gunplay.

[tame cobalt]

i hope u guys can add a punchy slow firing LMG like the BFV chauchat into the game... dunno if there's a modern equivalent to that

[slim quiver]

i mean the m5 is literally just a Sig Spear

which is just a remodified AR 15 variant

the SCAR is also an old gun

its like 18 years old

[sweet barn]

glad I tried it through EA Play first, thought people were over exaggerating how bad the game was, its way fucking worse

[vocal adder]

I miss the battlefield 2042 main menu music haha

[hidden sand]

I don't think age of a vehicle/firearm/etc should get in the way unless it's something from 60s and below. That's just my opinion though.

[ripe hedge]

No no I didn't say that.

See there are 2 tips of requests.

1. I want this weapon specifically because I like how I looks, how it sounds, it's story.

2. I want this weapon because it's mechanics, meta, gameplay attached to it is interesting to me. But it doesn't have to be THAT weapon as long as it's niche it's covered.

[slim quiver]

almost all the guns in 2042 dont feel futuristic, they just feel like modernized versions of old weapons which is basically how people make firearms now

which is the main grip with how i guess the play on modernization effects weaponry

[modest ivy]

which I guess is the point since it's only 20 years into the future

[hexed mango]

that "future" is only like 2 decades away tho

[slim quiver]

we no longer go for things necessarily more innovative, we stick with what works

20 years is a really big jump

with how fast technology expands

[ripe hedge]

Yes but the Vintorez hasn't been replaced with a new development. While the 74 was

[hexed mango]

the year 2002 was 20 years ago

and tbh not too much has changed with guns

[slim quiver]

and technology has expanded quite a lot

[ripe hedge]

Valid

[slim quiver]

again we dont modernize weaponry in innovative ways that doesnt mean we cant

[tame cobalt]

Would 2022 guns seem futuristic to 2002 soldiers?

[slim quiver]

we stick with practicality

[hidden sand]

Not saying otherwise, just making a point of people generally having more interest in the weapons themselves over what their mechanics in game would be like.

[slim quiver]

in the 1940's they were modernizing warfare during a war every single year, but it didnt make it practical

[white lynx]

Yeah I guess I did put words in your mouth sorry. I just think when it comes to the first point the 74u does not fit very well in the game

But a replacement that fits in the same meta would be good

[clear hull]

why do i seriously not have the new free skins?

am actually contracting EA help

[hexed mango]

what free skins

[clear hull]

oh wait

nvm

the game never just told me i had them

[hidden sand]

I don't care as long as the gun looks cool
But I do care about vehicles in terms of actual game design

[hexed mango]

it will after a round, or should

[tame cobalt]

Just remove c5 drone

It's fucking stupid

Ruins rush

[hidden sand]

I know your pain

[visual horizon]

it's a fun gun, for sure

[hidden sand]

Was tanking on exposure BT, C4 droned each time, gg

[vocal adder]

personally i just want all the weapons in portal to the main game

[tame cobalt]

rip

[hexed mango]

i dont

[tame cobalt]

Chad

[frozen adder]

what are the best attachments to the LGMG?

[violet meteor]

I play for the challenge. I rub half a jar of Vaseline all over my hands and then play 2042.

[tame cobalt]

Is the portal bf3 pump shotgun still dogwater?

[hexed mango]

sure you dont play with something else?

[hidden sand]

What a cheap mechanic that should have never been in the game. They patched it out of BF3, BF4, maybe thirds time the charm?

[slim quiver]

this

guns basically just need to look cool

[tame cobalt]

🤨

[violet meteor]

Oh morb, you dog you

[tame cobalt]

tf was that

[slim quiver]

like weapons largely just need to look cool because the devs arent going to balance weapons around real life anyways so what does it matter

[hexed mango]

dont worry about it

[hidden sand]

Damn I was confused on why I had you blocked and now I know

[white lynx]

?

[slim quiver]

@ripe hedge im actually 100% curious as a developer how you guys choose weapons. I don't know if you're allowed to talk about it, but Im genuinely curious like what is the process to sitting down and determining a weapon is interesting and intuitive to the game and adds something you're looking to shape the theme of the game

[tame cobalt]

Suika was complaining about a game breaking mechanic and morbius said "everytime you speak it makes me want to die more"

[arctic grove]

It be nice if they did balance the weapons like in real life

[slim quiver]

id like that but it would be broken

like think about it this way

[hexed mango]

• its a game so it cant be 100% realistic

[slim quiver]

the only thing id like about this is finally getting rid of bullet drop

thats the only thing id like to go away

[hexed mango]

and increasing velo / same thing but just make bullets go faster

[arctic grove]

bullet drop is a realistic thing tho

[hidden sand]

Exactly how I feel. Vehicles on the other hand really need to bring something interesting though, because just visual design isn't enough imo. MPAT + HMG is such a boring meta.

[slim quiver]

because at 100 meters a gun is going to reach you like almost instantly

[hexed mango]

not at the same rate ingame tho

[slim quiver]

not the way its portrayed but its a game

[frozen adder]

HELLO
which maps are getting remaked?

[slim quiver]

so i understand why it is the way it is

[hexed mango]

bullets fall like they are a 25 pound weight

[arctic grove]

Valid point

[hexed mango]

kale and renewal i believe

[slim quiver]

I get WHY BF has ballistics the way they are

[tame cobalt]

Kaleido and renewal (for now)

[frozen adder]

is there is a date when?

[slim quiver]

but obviously im used to games where bullets travel real fast and thats fine they do it different

[hexed mango]

S2, 11-10 weeks from now

[slim quiver]

its more about adapting than anything else

[tame cobalt]

August for kaleido

[slim quiver]

but yes id like it if ARs traveled faster

or at least get rid of letting me see my bullets

[tame cobalt]

Kaleido rework drops about a month before s2

[hidden sand]

Ah is that why you've wanted one shot snipers, zzzy?

[fiery shoal]

balancing anything according to irl is just weird.. its not like 100 hit points makes sense in the first place

[slim quiver]

yes because i like the idea of a bolt action killing in 1 shot center mass

because if it kills in 2 shots

a DMR is superior

because it will also take 2 shots for an SVK to kill you

so the bolt action loses its value due to DMR killing in the same amount of shots

[hexed mango]

thats why i said 10, cause s2 is in 11 weeks

[fiery shoal]

except for headshots

[slim quiver]

the only value the bolt action has is yes headshots

but landing headshots in a game where people run fast

idk

[tame cobalt]

Imagine they structure seasons like this
Month 1: new content
Month 2: new portal content
Month 3: map rework

I know I'm just coping about lack of portal content in s1

[ripe hedge]

Daaaamn a good question that I can't go into much detail... Shame...

But generally speaking we try to find weapons that we as the group love how they look, or if they do something weird and unique, and where should they be in the meta (theoretically). Sometimes we even vote for our favorite candidates etc.

[slim quiver]

cod has tactical sprints but their snipers kill in 1 hit so its not an issue

[fiery shoal]

risk vs reward, its also not like bf is some competitive playground where everything needs uttermost balance

[sweet barn]

what was the command to see ping? PervOverlay.DrawSomething true?

[hexed mango]

what is your personal favorite weapon

[ripe hedge]

What would exactly be nice about it?

[fiery shoal]

i go bolts for fun more than anything

[hexed mango]

you can enable it in settings under General > Network, there's an option to show network debug now

[slim quiver]

perfectly fine! im glad you at least had some stuff you can share, its really interesting to hear things from the devs perspective in how you formulate ideas. I just find it interesting

[arctic grove]

Realism but thats just my personal preference

[hexed mango]

or hit tab

[slim quiver]

im assuming you guys do vote on familiarity with fire arms: IE: Iconic weapons such as AK or M4 or stuff like that, because it becomes "fan favorites"

[fiery shoal]

@ripe hedge hate to jump onto the "spam dev with our idea" but.. yea.. weapon dump enough weapons and make traditional locked classes with specialists please

[hidden sand]

If only development wasnt so closed up. It's super fun to learn about those processes and why things are done the way they are. Especially in level design.

[tame cobalt]

Alex's method for choosing guns is largely community sourced, it seems

[hexed mango]

YESSSSS a rao skin!!

[tame cobalt]

who

[tacit sphinx]

in the case of the second, something like the daewoo k11 could potentially be very interesting - fairly standard assault rifle, but with a permanently attached 20mm grenade launcher that you could do some interesting things with. i don't know that it would be my first choice, and we do already have a weapon with a permanent GL (although it would likely function differently being 20mm vs 40mm) but it could be a very unique weapon in terms of looks and mechanics

[hexed mango]

who asked
who cares

[fiery shoal]

tbf most content likely is. i mean, bfv showed that people "NEED" standard ww2 shit so they dont rage

[tame cobalt]

No
Just never saw this rao fellow in game before

[hidden sand]

I wonder how time consuming creating new weapons VS new vehicles, is.

[ripe hedge]

In game or in general?

[hexed mango]

general

which one do i use tho

[foggy halo]

holy shit long messages

[tame cobalt]

morbius

[hexed mango]

[slim quiver]

well bfv still had interesting weapons most people havent heard of

[tame cobalt]

So obviously creeping death

[slim quiver]

what do you mean by weapon dump btw?

[hexed mango]

very cool jeep skin aswell

[foggy halo]

it will be weird to switch to classes after so much time playing as specialists.

[ripe hedge]

But realism is extremely boring.

Imagine you deploy, get hit by a stray 5.56 bullet in your leg, sprint is disabled, HP lowers gradually unless you bandage. Bandaging takes 1 minute at least holding the key. You start running slowly, get hit by another 5.56 at 300m of distance in the chest. Die.

[tame cobalt]

Locked classes

[mossy badge]

Free wifi

[fiery shoal]

release as much weapons as possible asap to fill out locked loadouts (if they tried to do that right now a class like "engineer" with lmg/mmgs would have.. 3 options?)

[foggy halo]

Are you trying to steal their jobs? lol

[ripe hedge]

We do in certain situations like fulfilling the core experiences

[slim quiver]

QBZ 191 which is a brand new chinese assault rifle i think would be really cool!

[hard plume]

I would like the f2000 back, please

[foggy tundra]

i do hope theres a plan for class restricted gadgets

sam said he couldnt talk about it

[hard plume]

No

[hexed mango]

no

[tame cobalt]

Locking weapons to classes is cringe tho just don't allow support class to use snipers

[hidden sand]

Lol no I just want to learn more about how the game is made. But sadly DICE treats everything do like it's military grade equipment they need to keep secret, so, that probably won't happen anytime soon.

[hard plume]

Heeey twonsies!

[hexed mango]

uh. they're a company that doesnt want people knowing about their plans, cause that is how that works.

[fiery shoal]

you know... how every bf has been before 2042

[hexed mango]

boring

[ripe hedge]

Hard to pick one.

But I'm trying to get one of them in the game so I won't spoil 😉

[tame cobalt]

@fiery shoal yes

[hexed mango]

[slim quiver]

that seems counter intuitive to what @ripe hedge was saying about releasing weapons that feel unique to the player experience. If you just fill in a bunch of guns to make load outs fill out, the result doesnt change, people will still gravitate to whatever is the best weapon you can possible use and throw the rest away, which means that the devs just wasted their time adding in a bunch of half assed weapons

[hexed mango]

FBI would like to know your location

[gritty sable]

new skin for Rao fits him well

[hard plume]

You can’t ignore me forever @ripe hedge, I will get my f2000

[tame cobalt]

That new skin looks straight out of star wars original trilogy

[fiery shoal]

i get its personal preference, but i like working within restrictions like previous titles.

[slim quiver]

locking weapons to classes wont work for this BF i dont think

it ruins the theme of the game

[fiery shoal]

people will always gravitate to the "best weapon you can use", still doesnt change that i think locked loadouts is what the game needs the most

[tame cobalt]

Just don't let support class use snipers

[tacit sphinx]

chameleon + the ghillie cap is a nice combo i found

[fiery shoal]

... thats what locked loadouts could do

[slim quiver]

and that would make picking specialists would reduce even more freedom, and we've already lost freedom in other areas of the game

[hard plume]

I respect your decision, but seeing how it’s stupid ass decision, i’m electing to ignore it

[fiery shoal]

freedom of choice isnt only a net positive

[slim quiver]

it is in a game about picking how you want to play

[tame cobalt]

But what else would need to be locked? Sniper is the only one because it lets snipers solo camp with unlimited health and ammo

[hidden sand]

Yet the dead space remake team can show off their work just fine? Not a legitimate reason. Letting people in on how aspects of the game is made, sharing workflows, etc is mainly for people interested in development and wouldn't do the company any harm. You misunderstood what I meant. 👌

[slim quiver]

the whole game was centered around plau how you want to support the team

and also its about changing things on the go and being much more fluid

[naive trellis]

Every studio has it's own engagement policies.

[hexed mango]

who tf cares about dead space tho lmao

[silk surge]

I'm at tier 56 on the Battlepass now... and the progress is so slow at this point. I gain like 1-2 dots from consistent 18k xp games. Why did they make it so grindy?

[tame cobalt]

Chad wilde

[hexed mango]

its only the second week lmao

[slim quiver]

the game isnt not following the standard classes structure so it makes no sense to put more limits n people

[tame cobalt]

Bait

[hidden sand]

I'm not arguing otherwise. Was just talking about what I hoped for, not that it will happen.

[tacit sphinx]

i think the intent is that you primarily use the missions in the long run since they can carry you through like 60 levels

[ripe hedge]

There is also a huge amount of legal implications you aren't considering 🙂

[slim quiver]

also let me say this as well

[silk surge]

What about the people that might hop in during week 7 for example?

[tacit sphinx]

you can backtrack on the missions

[silk surge]

Ah

[fiery shoal]

is 2042 billed as having freedom of choice? its not like the core of bf is removed because you are restricted to weapons/gadgets like previous games

[tame cobalt]

Das kinda lame tho playing for missions is boring af

[fiery shoal]

not sure what youre asking, just look at every previous bf title to see what im suggesting

[tacit sphinx]

the only ones that are truly time limited are the bonus missions which is worth a full level, incentivises playing at the time while not completely screwing you over if you don't

[arctic grove]

Give him the cowboy clothes with crysis helmet

[slim quiver]

Paik is a recon class. if you lock weapons to recon, which would be snipers, how am i supposed to use my wall scanner in an advantageous way when i cant even get in range because my primary weapon is a bolt action. so now it prevents me from playing my specialist in a way that helps my team

[hidden sand]

Okay, that's fine, but I've not said there is no reason for it not to happen. Just that because they did, there's a chance it could happen in the future.

[slim quiver]

a lot of play styles are going to be destroyed all because weapons are locked

[fiery shoal]

bfv doesnt restrict recon to only snipers though....

[shadow stump]

Jesus christ how do you guys keep up with all of this

[naive trellis]

The idea is for people to build their own playstyle.

[native jacinth]

except when there's an enemy stealth heli and now i HAVE to play as rao+aa

[slim quiver]

BFV doesnt because the snipers had DMRs in them

[naive trellis]

Weapon/gadget combos that they desire.

[hexed mango]

the fact that rao can hack people through smoke makes him low key the best specialist

[tame cobalt]

I'm saying the open loadout with weapons is fun and snipers is the only thing that needs to be kept out of support class, everything else can go to every class without causing issues

[slim quiver]

but the way that wall scanner works im literally in within like 15 meters

[fiery shoal]

and carbines, which can still be done in 2042...

[hard plume]

And i think it’s the best decision you made

[slim quiver]

whos going to use a carbine at 15 meters

I use smgs on paik

[hexed mango]

[slim quiver]

because im close range

[silk surge]

Eeehhhh... It's a decision they made.

[slim quiver]

my entire playstyle for that character is close range

[hexed mango]

like yeah im not gonna use a sniper with rao, i push full into the enemy

[slim quiver]

i get like 80 assists a game playing the character this way

[fiery shoal]

i dont see how having some restrictions destroys this, its not like you cant class swap mid round like before

[hexed mango]

exactly

[hard plume]

Exactly, which was the best

[tame cobalt]

Previous BFs juggle the type of weapons that go to medic class with every game... Because EVERY weapon makes sense with medic except snipers

[silk surge]

Might fall in the top 100, not sure.

[fiery shoal]

someone who wants recons kit at said range... i dont get why im explaining scenarios that already happened in bfv

[slim quiver]

or i can keep the same class im in and change my playstyle by switching parts in my gun or changing the gun

[hard plume]

How bout we compromise, top 50?

[hidden sand]

I just don't see the point of specialist having dedicated gadgets, especially when a lot of them would be better fit as regular gadgets. If the intent is to incentivize creating your own build, then why not just go that extra step and have a third gadget slot?

[tacit sphinx]

tbf depends which definition of carbine you use, modern terms it would just be like a short barreled assault rifle which would work fine but your point stands, if you were to limit weapons you'd definitely have to go through and rework a bunch of specialist abilities as well if you want them to actually reflect the role

[silk surge]

Agreed.

[tame cobalt]

Third gadget slot

[fiery shoal]

both are perfectly valid.. neither locked or open loadouts are better than the other, its down to personal preference

[slim quiver]

to be honest i think paik shouldnt even be recon, shes only recon because of the nature of what her abilities do. but its all so close range id rather have her be assault or medic for being kind of like a spotter in the close front lines

casper is a long range spotter

paik is a close range spotter

[hidden sand]

I would prefer specialist be cosmetic, personally.

[arctic grove]

hi oh holy now other discussion

[tacit sphinx]

even with regards to limiting gadget choice, you'd have to look at it and put more thought into it than most calls for it which are just like "put familiar gadgets back in the class it was on in X game"

[slim quiver]

if anything they could go back to classes and make specialists just choose the class theyre playing

[bronze steeple]

I just use angel and paik as specialists the rest i dont realy play with

[slim quiver]

so make specialists like elite soldiers

[tacit sphinx]

support is health and ammo people? sure just put the med and ammo crates on them... except their abilities are already just health and ammo

[slim quiver]

but leave the weapons still unlocked for everyone

[hidden sand]

I want to play as Rao, but revive and use the medgun over the hack. Characters having unqiue abilities is meh imo.

[slim quiver]

id like to use paik and do this

[hexed mango]

heyyy alex........... can you make it so the crossbow gets actual amounts of ammo from ammo crate + dropped ammo
cause the only way to survive with it is to play angel
and i dont really want to play angel

[fiery shoal]

theres a ton of options, i just know i personally preferred locked loadouts to open loadouts, and it seem the community in general likes traditional classes more than what we have now so theres a compromise somewhere

even if you personally like open loadouts more that doesnt mean its just outright the better of the two

[hexed mango]

yeah but it is better

[slim quiver]

to be fair we only know what social media part of the community prefers

for all we know people could actually like the new system

[hexed mango]

i really like the new system

[hidden sand]

Classes fit BF better but I know this system isn't going anywhere for this game, so I just hope for locked gadgets.

[fiery shoal]

of course, only dice could get an actual gauge of this with a survey

[tacit sphinx]

i almost don't think there is a compromise without like... having really specific reworks for individual specialists so that they can synergise with the stuff they're allocated. a blanket change of "revert to the way [insert a given person's favourite title" isn't going to work because it just makes some of the abilities really dumb

[arctic grove]

i like both systems

[slim quiver]

id be okay tho with compromising and just allowing people to pick their class and either keep their specialties or replace the specialty with a class specialty that is fluid so that operators become more just cosmetic rather than tied to the mechanics

[tardy tree]

same

[fiery shoal]

of course theres more consideration than that, im not suggesting a super simple change, but the direction of going locked imo is more fitting for the franchise and what seemingly a lot of people want

[slim quiver]

i still think loading the game up with a ton of weapons is a very bad idea though. They should really take time to add in weapons that actually feel different

people bringing up battlefield 4 is the worst thing. because that game literally was garbage with how many weapons felt the same

[hexed mango]

which i mean so far i think they've done well
Maybe besides the smgs

[hidden sand]

That's what I'm hoping for on vehicles. They did an awesome job on the new stealth heli.

[hexed mango]

thats what im saying! i replayed bf4 a few weeks ago and was kinda sad that all the guns felt lame

[slim quiver]

the smgs are weird because they just arent very cool except like 2 of them

[fiery shoal]

my "weapon dump" comment was more of them releasing the weapons they are working on and going off that, not just having ak7/ak7u/etc variants to arbitrarily fill a quota to make it happen

[bronze steeple]

What new system battlepass?

[tardy tree]

weapons felt similar but bf4 had the best destruction and gameplay

[hexed mango]

exactly

[hidden sand]

I was worried it'd just reskinned attack helis but nope, completely different playstyle.

[tacit sphinx]

i like the specialist system for what it is, i think for the next title scaling it back to a more familiar class structure with maybe slightly less limits would be cool? i like the fluidity of being able to effectively have the main gadget role of one class with any guns

[hidden sand]

If we can get that for tanks then that would be sick.

[slim quiver]

I beg to differ, battlefield 4 gameplay was horrendous

the gunplay was extremely dated

[tardy tree]

the gunplay was uh

something

[slim quiver]

and best destruction? it was still all scripted

i felt battlefield 1 had better destruction

[fiery shoal]

bf4 gunplay was fine for its time, but its just aged by now

[slim quiver]

the zepplin falling from the sky

[bronze steeple]

Bf v is diff gameplay aswell then 2042

[tacit sphinx]

it's not like the class structure has ever really stayed the same for more than about 2 games in a row, why not just open up the weapon selection so you can play a gadget related role while using weapons you're comfortable with

[hidden sand]

BF4 destruction was a very big downgrade, significantly better in BF1.

[white lynx]

Hot take but I think specialists are okay and don’t need to be removed

[hidden sand]

I miss vehicle destruction from BC2 though tbh.

[slim quiver]

they dont

they just need some tweaking

[fiery shoal]

no one here is suggesting removing them though

[tacit sphinx]

people do

[fiery shoal]

yea in general

could be said about any idea though

[tacit sphinx]

but also people tend to use specialists as a blanket term for any change to the structure in 2042

[slim quiver]

i wish the game wasnt on ps4 and xbox one

so we could get good textures and graphics

[arctic grove]

Valid point. Thanks for your opinion

[slim quiver]

game was held back graphically due to cross gen and 128 players

and probably map sizes

[fiery shoal]

i hate when people use specialists as the same as open loadouts.. we could 100% have specialists exist within locked loadouts

[hidden sand]

I don't think visuals would have been much different regardless, but I'm just speculating

[white lynx]

what tweaks would you guys make to specialists as a whole

[hidden sand]

It looks downgraded on PC in comparison to BFV on last gen.

[fiery shoal]

put them into locked loadouts

[white lynx]

but locked loadouts is just not fun imo

[hidden sand]

Putting their gadgets with the regular ones, becoming purely cosmetic.

[fiery shoal]

i like them, and they have been in every bf title before 2042

[tacit sphinx]

personally opposite kinda, 128 players feels it was the main issue - needing to make maps on a scale that works for that number quite clearly holds them back with regards to the quantity of maps they can push out, and i wouldn't be surprised if it was at least partly the reason why the launch maps were also pretty sparse

[white lynx]

i mean true but the game has limited weapons. with 100 weapons its fine, with 24? now its just too restrictive imo

[bronze steeple]

I want breakthrough 128 gameplay back

[fiery shoal]

yea, i suggested they add enough weapons to make locked loadouts since the weapon count is too low for this as of now

[hidden sand]

I doubt that last bit because of the Portal maps. You'll get the same performance with 128 players on Caspian Border as you would on Hourglass, for instance.

[bronze steeple]

I dont play breakthrough now anymore just conquest

[slim quiver]

The weapon count is pretty much fine tbh

[fiery shoal]

@white lynx

[thorny orchid]

please add daily missions for battlepass

[hidden sand]

The level design being weak probably stems from them believing big = good.

[white lynx]

overall its okay, but reducing that further with locked loadouts for different classes would be rough

[bronze steeple]

But i.like the game more after update

[fiery shoal]

i just checked and lmg/mmg has 2 weapons...

[white lynx]

yeah but at this rate i doubt they could do ti very fast

[slim quiver]

Either way even with 24 weapons in the game I see a grand total of 3 of them being used by 90% of the player base so

[fiery shoal]

yea, which is why i dont see locked loadouts being a thing, shame for me but meh

[tacit sphinx]

again though "locked loadouts" is a pretty blanket term - is that just restrict gadgets to certain classes/specialists? does it include weapons as well? even if it's just gadgets, do you just kinda use the same structure as some given past title or what

[bronze steeple]

Smg and assault always rules games no mather what shooters and thats fine by me

[gaunt tundra]

Did they fix the broken map rotation in AoW modes?

[bronze steeple]

M5 ak24 mp9 k30 and pp29 for me aswell

[white lynx]

what specialists would you buff / nerf and how

[bronze steeple]

Pkp is fun to use sometimes

[fiery shoal]

multiple ways to go about it, weapons would be the main consideration for locked loadouts and it can be done any other way.. ill be honest, the questions people have for me about me promoting locked loadouts are pretty in depth and borderline "game ready" theory crafting

[bronze steeple]

And pistol always mp28

[tacit sphinx]

like i mentioned before, by the general class role in the game, support would be given the ammo and health gadgets, but then you look at their existing abilities and you've basically gone "ok you can be angel and have ammo and ammo or ammo and health" and vice versa for falck

[bronze steeple]

Weapons are fime the way they are imo

[hidden sand]

A lot of people using a specific gun is a weak argument for a lower weapon count fitting imo, coming from someone who's more interested in how the weapon looks, at least.

It doesn't bother me if the firearms play similarly with some of them being more unique. I want to use what I prefer regardless of that, and having a variety to choose from is really fitting of BFs sandbox style.

[bronze steeple]

Angel and Falk are best classes 100%

[pseudo heart]

game keeps closing for no reason

[white lynx]

angel is bad now he cant even give armor

[fiery shoal]

yes, and values can be changed for gadgets to promote picking falck for more heals and still pick up ammo, if thats even how they decide to split it up

[bronze steeple]

Maybe adjust weapon recoil some weapons so they become.more accurate with drum for example

[fiery shoal]

i mean.. as of right now the health and ammo gadgets are subpar to the specialists unique gadget already

[white lynx]

thats a good thing imo

[bronze steeple]

Everyone needs health and ammo so good ranking those 2 specialist

[tacit sphinx]

why weapons? what does limiting the weapons actually do other than slimming down the options you have in terms of playstyles - personally, opening up weapon selection is one of the best changes because weapon + general gadget combinations have never been stable anyway and it only opens up your options

[fiery shoal]

of course, it only makes sense

[white lynx]

yeah but now theres no way to give peopel armor right?

[hidden sand]

I don't see a problem with weapons being opened up tbh, gadgets is an issue though

[bronze steeple]

Better leave weapons the way they are players are autists dont change major things

[white lynx]

i think we have a lot of solutions but what exactly is the issue we are trying to solve

[native jacinth]

3 matches on breakthrough exposure, 3 matches of running circles with rao VS the enemy helicopter just to get pubstomped anyway

didn't the defending side get vehicles back in the day too?

[round fractal]

Hey guys, i wanted to know if the game is now optimized ?

[native jacinth]

runs about the same as it used to

[fiery shoal]

imf or weapons, gadgets and specialists being in locked loadouts, i think its a staple of bf titles (considering its in every one but 2042 this is basically a fact), and my personal preference for a game like bf being overall locked would be working within restriction to optimize that classes playstyle and to give them character. its personal preference but building my ideal loadout and just going out to do my best isnt as fun as working in a limited toolset and problem solving on the spot

[white lynx]

not rlly, but hitreg is a lot better

[round fractal]

Hmm maybe find some optimisation vids on yt will help ty guys

Cuz i was running with 45 when the game released

[tacit sphinx]

if it was the case that like every game had had the same class structure where assault gets these guns + these general gadgets, then yeah id understand it a bit more, but for example the medic gadget set has been paired with assault rifles (bf3/4), smgs (bfv), DMRs (bf1), and LMGs (bc2) - opening weapon selection effectively allows you to emulate the roles from a bunch of previous titles

[fiery shoal]

for probably the 4th time in 30 minutes, open vs locked loadouts is a preference, neither one is outright better than the other

(talking in general, i do think locked is more fitting for bf considering it has been a long running feature in the series)

[slim quiver]

the series eventually needs to change tbh

at first i thought it needed to stay the same

and now I realize the series eventually will need to change

its just about meeting a compromise

meet things half way

[fiery shoal]

im not one of those "dont fix if it aint broke" guys

my preference for a bf kind of game is locked loadouts, thats it

shooting fish in a barrel isnt as exciting when i can make whatever soldier i want, thats it

[tacit sphinx]

and i think my ideal setup would probably be a more typical class gadget selection with open weapon selection for the reasons i've mentioned

the franchise has never settled on what guns should go with what gadgets

[bronze steeple]

You guys talk alot and say less

[fiery shoal]

welcome to discord where the point is to talk to people, if you dont like it i think you downloaded the wrong app...

[bronze steeple]

Talk about usefull things you say less with many words

[tardy tree]

damn

bro came in here with a vengeance

[fiery shoal]

ironically this is probably one of the more meaningful conversations 2042 has had... at least compared to the normal "lul 2042 bad" meme takes

[tardy tree]

on god

[gaunt tundra]

PSA: Feeding trolls has been shown to be hazardous to one's health.

[tardy tree]

they shouldnt be here in the first place

its a waste of time

they could be applying for a job

or getting a car

or starting a family

instead of

being a douche

anyways

[echo yew]

parachutes still dont work

[slim quiver]

stop talking

[fiery shoal]

THIS

[tardy tree]

huh?

[slim quiver]

hows that for saying less

[tacit sphinx]

i dont think ive ever had the parachute not work but i also... dont know what people mean by "it doesnt work"

[tardy tree]

you guys have problems with chutes?

[bronze steeple]

Sure

[fiery shoal]

i can press to open my parachute some .25 seconds before hitting the ground and it wont open and i die

[tardy tree]

ive had that happen like twice

i just thought i was pulling my chute late

[fiery shoal]

its like 2042 has some weird condition that you have to open your shoot at least 50 feet above the ground otherwise it wont deploy

[tacit sphinx]

i think there's a slight delay while it kinda.. 'reloads' after landing on something, so if you land on a ledge and immediately jump off it might not activate

[tardy tree]

this

i know what you measn

[slim quiver]

Animation delay

[tardy tree]

noticeable on exposure since the verticality

is

immense

[echo yew]

also the as val is op as shit

[unique escarp]

Bruh the stealth heli is so annoying you can’t even aa it with stealth mode and flares

[fiery shoal]

i feel like ive not noticed a "delay" when pulling it way above the ground

[dense hedge]

PSA: labeling someone a troll because they have a different narrative is a sign of being dumb

[tardy tree]

the as val is actually my favorite gun like irl

[tacit sphinx]

i don't think that's chutes not working i think it's more "you have to plan to open it at least a tiny bit in advance so it's not just a cancel fall damage button"

[dense hedge]

i dont like ketchup.
TOLL! TROLL!

[fiery shoal]

if youre narrative is "dont use discord for talking" i dont think thats the same thing...

[tacit sphinx]

like i pop it pretty late quite often but i just give myself a bit of room

[bronze steeple]

@slim quiver you dont date anyone i guess you have a relation with your pc

[echo yew]

literally a 2 shot kill at any range

[tardy tree]

homie picking fights with everyone 💀

[fiery shoal]

idk exactly what it is, but something definitely feels off about it, inconsistent would be the word

[tacit sphinx]

irl i wouldnt want to be dropping at near terminal velocity and opening my parachute like 10m above the ground lol

[fiery shoal]

i mean irl i wouldnt want to be in a warzone either

[foggy halo]

weirdo

[bronze steeple]

You dont know me

[native jacinth]

i wish normal classes were back. if someone wanted to use smgs they'd also would, most likely, be carrying antitank or antiair equipment. now with this current system catering to individualism it genuinely feels like everyone is just running their loadouts with all the gadgets that garuntee their kd won't go down and it feels like i'm the only person switching to rao and using aa (a playstyle that i don't enjoy/want to play right now)

the new system was supposed to bring out more gameplay opportunities for me but i find myself forced to play a certain way based on what the enemy is doing

[tardy tree]

i dont care enough to know you honestly

you seem

like one of those people

i hope you have a good day tho

[hidden sand]

BFV did class balance and incentivized teamplay extremely well. Really miss it.

[bronze steeple]

Why is everyone against me i just say once you guys say less with many words

[unborn knoll]

servers down ?

[slate needle]

i miss the attrition system it was nice tbh

[native jacinth]

and now i'm getting 2000 ping again for no reason

[bronze steeple]

Fine ty

[fiery shoal]

i liked that bfv would let you play as a close range infantry person on a sniper class like recon, but the weapons just werent the best for that range. makes sense, gave options, but still made you work within the restrictions

medic got a sniper that was only good under 100m too

but it at least still got a sniper for options

[gaunt tundra]

Back to the game. Did they fix map rotation in AoW gamemodes (e.g. conquest/breakthrough, etc.) ? Or is it still only the same 2 maps (sometimes 3 if you're lucky) over and over again?

[echo yew]

why do attackers on breakthrough have no air vehicles

[native jacinth]

"balance"

[tardy tree]

i wonder if theyre gonna add bigger destruction

what we got was kinda

[bronze steeple]

I play mostly same maps in rotation exposure comes every 2 or 3 maps again

[tardy tree]

underwhelming

one time

[echo yew]

why does the full auto dmr one shot to the head

[tardy tree]

one time i requeued like 7 times and i got kaleidoscope every single time 💀

worst experience ever

[fiery shoal]

ideally within a locked loadout system each class would have a close/medium/ranged choice for their weapon archetype, then offer the "opposite" weapon archetype but i would not be as good for that range.

[hexed mango]

well if you did them one after the other, thats cause that was probably the one available server cause it hadn't started yet/wasnt full

[bronze steeple]

Thats bad a had 1 time 4 maps in a row destruction

[fiery shoal]

maybe throw in an ease of use weapons and a high skill ceiling weapon too

[tardy tree]

thats what i was thinking

[tardy tree]

jesus

[hexed mango]

destruction?

[bronze steeple]

The one with the boat in the middle

[hexed mango]

discarded

[fiery shoal]

in non hc games? i dont think any dmr one shots headshots

[bronze steeple]

Ow yes discarded sorry

[gaunt tundra]

Conquest Exodus mode from last week was 80% Exposure 15% Discarded and 5% Arica Harbor.

[echo yew]

the as val does

[hexed mango]

no its a 2 shot to the head last i checked

[native jacinth]

for as much fun as i've had playing bf2042 this week it might be landing in the uninstall bin for me. just spent 3 matches straight running circles with rao and hacking the enemy heli

[hexed mango]

depends on range aswell but i dont think it one shots

[native jacinth]

just for the pilot and gunner to alt+f4 as soon as i got close to killing them

[fiery shoal]

ah forgot about that as its not in sym.gg, and id be willing to bet it doesnt 1 shot headshot at any range

[gaunt tundra]

@fiery shoal I think it depends on the loadout

[native jacinth]

buffed the vehicles to account for the increase in playersize then gave infantry players the option to do anything but run AA because muh individualism

[tardy tree]

wait can i post a clip here or is that a big no no

[bronze steeple]

I like bf2042 gets better and better but what you think i think battlepass looks very simular to cod

[tardy tree]

because i have a pretty funny clip of a man booking it down the exposure cliffside

[fiery shoal]

if they made a 900rof weapon be able to 1 shot headshot at any range then i will agree dice balancing team doesnt know what they are doing

[wide shore]

It looks like every battle pass ever.

You really can’t get too creative with it

[tardy tree]

oh i literally cannot post a clip

dang

[fiery shoal]

its like asking what the next cod is going to be like...

[bronze steeple]

I still like it just saying but good initiative to add this

[bronze steeple]

😂

[tardy tree]

2042 can only get better from now

[bronze steeple]

👆

[tardy tree]

theres no way they can fuck up more content right

right..?

[wide shore]

That’s what we said about BFV. Then the TTK changes came.

[tardy tree]

yes but bfv got better again

[fiery shoal]

lol i wouldnt say that exactly.. almost every update/patch bfv got was a literal 1 step forward 2 steps back scenario

[tardy tree]

i didnt follow V

[fiery shoal]

i did.. very closely

[wide shore]

BFV got better, but not as good as it was before the TTK changes.

[bronze steeple]

I enjoyed bf v but started play 1 yr ago game was kinda steady that time

[wide shore]

Cause the second TTK rollback did still increase the TTK

[fiery shoal]

yea at the end it of course got better, but there were moments where it really did go backwards

[slim quiver]

Loved that game except for 1 patch which was 5.2

But then they reverted it, so it’s fine

[fiery shoal]

imo 5.2 was only bad because of balance, 6.2 is closer to 5.2 than pre 5.2

[bronze steeple]

Total diff gameplay then 2042 i prob suck when i go play bf v now haha

[wide shore]

Not to mention the damage it did to the community leaving the shitty TTK patch for like 3 weeks

[slim quiver]

I still put BFV probably as the best BF game i ever played

maybe 1942 or Vietnam as a close 2nd

[gaunt tundra]

I think its 400/800rof depending on ammunition. and the 800rof ammo doesn't 1HSK

[slim quiver]

a ton of player freedom, maps that I liked, great customization. Sad its support died

[fiery shoal]

if any weapons over 200rof can 1 shot headshot thats just dumb...

[hexed mango]

cc is like a 3 shot at point blank (800)
hp is 2 shot point blank (400)

[fiery shoal]

see you can have player freedom in locked loadouts

[echo yew]

either way the asval is annoying as fuck

reminds me a lot of the asval in mw19

[hexed mango]

its a good gun

[wide shore]

I fuckin love using the VSS

[slim quiver]

yes because customization was good and the maps made locked loadouts make sense

[echo yew]

3 shot to infinite range, less recoil than most other weapons

[slim quiver]

the problem is 2042 will NEVER have maps akin to old BF games

[wide shore]

Maybe the other DMRs should be better then

Cause they’re awful

[fiery shoal]

i dont see how 2042 maps are detrimental to locked loadouts

[slim quiver]

128 players was a mistake

[tardy tree]

it was a good idea on paper

[slim quiver]

because the range of engagements

[echo yew]

128 players isn't the problem, bad map design is

[wide shore]

128 good. Map design not so much

[tardy tree]

also servers 💀

[hexed mango]

exposure is a good map for 128 and 64 with its layouts

[echo yew]

look at hourglass having a solid 600-700 meters of pure dunes with 0 cover whatsoever

[slim quiver]

and they designed the maps poorly because there was 128 players they had to fit on a map

[echo yew]

or breakaway

[wide shore]

That said. The base maps are better in 128 than 64

[slim quiver]

think about if they were designing 64 player maps

they wouldnt nearly be as big

[bronze steeple]

Zk and carbine2 rocked in bf v

[slim quiver]

and probably a lot more balanced overall

[hexed mango]

cough exposure cough

[wide shore]

The 64 layouts of the base maps show how little they thought about how they’d play on that mode

[fiery shoal]

its always about pacing

[slim quiver]

yes and maps set that pacing

[bronze steeple]

I still want breakthrough 128 players back

[hexed mango]

same

[echo yew]

manifest is the only good map

[wide shore]

Me too

[hexed mango]

manifest is good, orbital is good, and exposure is great

[fiery shoal]

you can generally control where your range of engagements take place though, and give options to long range weapons in a short range class as well

[slim quiver]

if maps were fixed you'd see a huge difference

[slim quiver]

not if vehicles have anything to say about that

[hexed mango]

i personally like breakaway

[bronze steeple]

I like many maps but we all have our favorites

[slim quiver]

with the lack of cover

[hexed mango]

but i personally dont like hourglass, and sometimes im ok with discarded but not always it depends

[echo yew]

breakaway is the fucking worst

[slim quiver]

vehicles just trample people over like its their private playground

[echo yew]

hourglass and breakaway are both terrible

[fiery shoal]

i mean.. as an infantry only/cqc player i seem to do just fine, just gotta think for .5 seconds on what to do

[slim quiver]

and then on top of it you have damage drop offs starting at 10meters

I do think and im an infantry main

[bronze steeple]

Hourglass is nice in conquest

[fiery shoal]

bfv also had hamada and panzerstorm which are mini 2042 maps in themselves

[bronze steeple]

I like manifest and kaleidoscope most i think

[slim quiver]

and if you think sitting in one part ofthe map like in a building to maintain CQC is a good idea, think about what that sets for the player

[slim quiver]

and the good news is it was 2 maps out of like 19

[hexed mango]

on 64p is pretty fun (breakthrough)
ive never played 64p conquest so i cant argue

[serene pawn]

Season 1 Badge is not progressing for me

[slim quiver]

I rarely ever played on those maps btw

[fiery shoal]

still doesnt mean 2042 cant have locked loadouts though

[hexed mango]

yeah its known... same issue over here

[bronze steeple]

I always play conquest 128 players

[slim quiver]

and since I played breakthrough only, the game absolutely fit

[serene pawn]

Oh, good to know it's not just me

[hexed mango]

although mine is less extreme cause its only like 80 points off

[slim quiver]

and yes lock loadouts for weapons ruin the design because id assume there would be locked loadouts for gadgets then as well

[wide shore]

Manifest, Orbital, Exposure, Kaleidoscope. And I don’t mind Hourglass sometimes. The rest of the maps are whatever.

[slim quiver]

except as bf previous games would tell us, players dont pick classes based on gadgets

they pick them based on guns

[bronze steeple]

Discarded nice too

[slim quiver]

so whoever gets a AR, guess what 90% of people will spam

you guessed it

ARs

[wide shore]

I don’t like discarded at all.

Breakaway is awful. Renewal is empty.

[bronze steeple]

Realy i like hang around c and d (boat) in conquest

[fiery shoal]

i dont see what pointing out general casual tendencies have to do with proving that locked loadouts cant happen in 2042

[slim quiver]

just like when BF4 we had a ton of people playing assault and yet not a lot of people healing and reviving people, especially when they switched out their healing items for a portable grenade launcher

[slim quiver]

it creates more of a lack of team work than whats already going on

and with the way engagements work in the game you will just see 1 thing spammed

[fiery shoal]

gamers are selfish in general, especially when a title lets them be one of 32/64 players

[slim quiver]

including one type of gadget being selected

[fiery shoal]

thats just how it is, doesnt determine if locked loadouts are viable or not

[slim quiver]

in a big team battle, the point is kind of to support the team, not be selfish

[fiery shoal]

yes.. doesnt mean people do that

[slim quiver]

it makes the selfish behavior stand out more and have a larger negative effect on the game

[strong glacier]

I’m on ps5 and have been playing the new exposure conquest mode and for some reason recently I’ve been getting into 64 player lobbies instead of 128. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[bronze steeple]

Many dont revive when they could ez they walk by and actualy say fk you when they pass you

[fiery shoal]

i dont see how thats the case when open loadouts is worse in this regards because who is gonna pick health crate/pen over boom boom gun..

[slim quiver]

and what does locked loadouts help us achieve honestly

like what does it add to the game other than other BFs had it

[crimson trail]

hey everybody does anybody know why Kaleidoscope, Breakaway, Manifest, Orbital, Renewal is gone from Breakthrough??

[boreal pendant]

it makes the game role based and prevents everyone from running meta

[hidden sand]

Is Boris turret supposed to shoot through smoke?

[slim quiver]

I have a health pack rn equipped even tho im not a medic

[boreal pendant]

an exception does not prove anything

[fiery shoal]

completely not anecdotal

[native jacinth]

mine went from 18 to 25, tier 41 👍

[hexed mango]

i play angel with health pack

[boreal pendant]

in BFV the medic had gadgets that pertained to them. Smoke launcher and medic were such a good combo

[chilly jacinth]

Man something is real wrong today with the hit detection

[native jacinth]

still waiting for my 385 remaining points though

[echo yew]

meta slaves suck

[wide shore]

I play Lis with an ammo box.

[chilly jacinth]

i can see so much blood come out of people

[boreal pendant]

2042 suffers from everyone choosing best in slot gear

[hidden sand]

I think the servers are rough atm, having lots of lag unrelated to my ping

[hexed mango]

no

[chilly jacinth]

and only 2 bullets hit

[crimson trail]

Does nobody know why Kaleidoscope, Breakaway, Manifest, Orbital, Renewal is gone from Breakthrough??

[fiery shoal]

tbf that will always be the case, but locked loadouts will just force people to take the best in slot for their class

[bronze steeple]

I think liz hmm i dont know hard to shoot chopper because they fly out range and 2 shots tanks is hard becsuse it takes time to shoot and after first shot they spot you

[boreal pendant]

Yes thats the point it increases variety

[hexed mango]

i also run a smoke launcher sometimes, its not an explosive, or anything special, but it helps my team.

[wide shore]

You only getting Exposure and Discarded?

[crimson trail]

yes im just getting Exposure , Discarde and Hourglass

[boreal pendant]

its easier to balance guns within a set class than it is all against eachother im not sure how thats hard to understand

[strong glacier]

I’m on ps5 and have been playing the new exposure conquest mode and for some reason recently I’ve been getting into 64 player lobbies instead of 128. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[wide shore]

Don’t press anything after your game ends. Don’t quit to the menu. Don’t press A to matchmake. Let it do it automatically.

[hexed mango]

u sure you're not playing breakthrough 24/7

[strong glacier]

Yeah

[boreal pendant]

instead of balancing a k30 to an M5a3 you then balance it vs the guns in its class to try to provide variety to them all. If someone wants to use medic gear they then cant just run the best AR alongside it instead they have to make a choice on what SMG they want

[crimson trail]

really and with that i will get all other cycle rotation on the maps?

[fiery shoal]

yea but i assume a pain in the ass to balance from class to class, which is another reason i think 2042 didnt do locked loadouts

[wide shore]

You should hopefully. Yes

[strong glacier]

I’m in a party with a pc player if that means anything

[crimson trail]

thank you so much, i will try ❤️

[wide shore]

I’ve been having the same problem with having only those two maps as well.

[boreal pendant]

ummmm.... no lol

[bronze steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/original-gangster-lincoln-gif-10540531

[slim quiver]

it will force people to pick the best class that is attached to whatever weapon that class has

[fiery shoal]

thats literally what i said

[slim quiver]

right so why is that a good thing

[boreal pendant]

It forces people to give up something if they want something

[slim quiver]

why do we want 90% of people picking assault just because it has an AR

[fiery shoal]

i didnt reply to you why thats a good thing?

[slim quiver]

instead of allowing people the freedom to have an AR with everything

[boreal pendant]

you clearly didnt play BF4 most play Engineer for AT

[fiery shoal]

i replied to handicapped for a reason

[slim quiver]

thats why im asking

[boreal pendant]

Class balance is more than just guns

[wide shore]

I basically played nothing but engineer in BF4

[bronze steeple]

Just play angel with smg or assault works out for me

[fiery shoal]

you implied i said it because its a good thing.. i didnt...

[slim quiver]

except most people pick classes based on the guns they have and usually not other reasons

[wide shore]

It was only when support got good AT stuff (and vehicles weren’t so apparent) in BF1 that I became a support player

[boreal pendant]

BF4 proves that wrong

[slim quiver]

so you want locked classes but you cant tell me why it would be a good thing to have locked classes

[slim quiver]

wrong

[boreal pendant]

Engineer was the most played class in BF4 and it did not have AR's which you are saying is the most popular

[slim quiver]

people chose assault which was a medic class but since it had ARs thats what they picked, it never stopped people from never reviving you at all and swapping medic items out for portable nade launchers

[boreal pendant]

That is statistically false.

[slim quiver]

if you played Rush primarily, engineer was not the most played class in BF4

[fiery shoal]

i can, its just long winded since im particular about my words and i honestly dont think it will be understood in full so i didnt care to

imagine me asking you to say what open loadouts bring to bf.. its not that simple

[slim quiver]

i never played conquest in BF4

i played rush

so no i did not see a flux of engineers

[boreal pendant]

Just because you played rush doesnt mean Engineer wasnt the most played class lmfao

[slim quiver]

I saw a ton of assault

[slim quiver]

my experience was completely different to you saying engineer was used

[merry socket]

it was always engineer (G36 was broken) and assault

[slim quiver]

and people picked assault because of the weapon obviously