battlefield-2042

[obsidian elk]

I get so many more kills with the AK. Way more

[lapis perch]

BSM gets 30 round mags, and you can set it up to 800 RPM

[zealous oyster]

The BSM with the right loadout is currently OP and will be nerfed lol

[obsidian elk]

I haven't unlocked it yet

[ancient lichen]

Scar is pretty op rn

[lapis perch]

[rain wolf]

the BSVM is basically an assault rifle and a DMR combined into one gun that you can freely swap between

[lapis perch]

Yes, and it's fantastic.

[lean basin]

The game is still kicking me back to the main menu as soon as the round starts without any error code. The data persistent error was supposed to be fixed?? I just wanted to confirm if I am the only one still getting this error

[ancient lichen]

I haven’t got that error a single time

[rain wolf]

instead of actual assault rifles which kinda struggle at long range

[ancient lichen]

Scar is ok

[lapis perch]

I have not gotten that error ever.

[grizzled whale]

you know the best part about exposure?

[lean basin]

I'm getting it since the patch 1.0.0 rolled out

[grizzled whale]

the ragdolling corpses spazzing down the mountain

[ancient lichen]

Lmao

[lean basin]

😂

[lean basin]

can anyone please help, I feel like I'm the only one deprived of the season 1 experience

[ebon pilot]

i had that issue, but for me it just kinda fixed itself? i don't think i did anything it just stopped happening after enough tries

[fossil trench]

I got called a good pilot today from 2 people

My day is complete

[restive herald]

[strong rampart]

Hosting a standard conquest large without exposure via portal. If interested, look up RGL Conquest.

Please help 🥺

[arctic grove]

Its designed that way so you can eventually get fed up.and are forced to buy Boins.

[ebon pilot]

i'd rather just wait until the next week of challenges

[arctic grove]

same

[ebon pilot]

speaking of, when does the next week of challenges unlock?

[lapis perch]

There aren't enough challenges in the 12 weeks to complete the pass, you'll have about ~40 unassisted levels to earn.

[arctic grove]

dice still tryina squeeze money outta the fanbase. unlocks next week on thursday

[ebon pilot]

according to aTic there's supposed to be more than enough challenges in the weeks to finish the pass

[arctic grove]

its just grindy

[haughty dagger]

this xbow is fun as shit. im def gunna T1 it

[ebon pilot]

wtf how you got the bow already

[arctic grove]

i wouldnt mind it if ya know, had time. Hard to dedicate time when you have a full time job and resposibilites

[lapis perch]

That's great news. What I heard must be false then. Hype.

[ebon pilot]

same

[haughty dagger]

gaming lol

[ebon pilot]

smh acquire employment touch grass etc etc

[dreamy panther]

I keep getting the same discarded lobby that’s bugged out like wtf 😂

[haughty dagger]

im at 35 on the battlepass i think or 34

[ebon pilot]

you know what's one thing i like about 2042

no lootboxes

hopefully ever
pls dice

[lapis perch]

There's no way to reconsile that from a design standpoint. Your option is to buy the remaining tiers that you find you can't earn, if you want to complete (or reach a certain threshold). That sounds very fair to me.

[dreamy panther]

Lootboxes confirmed via therealpizzacat

[ebon pilot]

ah fuck

[tame oracle]

Has anyone been able to get a refund with more than 2 hours on Steam? Game crashes within 5 minutes now. Been like that for a while. $90 down the drain

[lapis perch]

How many hours do you have

[dreamy panther]

Why not up the drain?

[tame oracle]

26. Played for the first week it was available. Didn't work after a random patch

[grizzled whale]

if you played 26 hours you dont deserve a refund

The game crashing every 5 minutes is most likely an issue on your side

[proven igloo]

26 hours... over 8 months ago...

[tame oracle]

Only on Battlefield though?

[grizzled whale]

yes

[lapis perch]

Engaging a support rep is probably your best course, either EA/2042 Support to figure out the issue, or Steam support to negotiate the refund.

Otherwise if you're stuck with it, then just come back down the line and enjoy it once it's fixed. There's a lot to do in life between now and then

[tame oracle]

Back to Battlefield 1 I go

[grizzled whale]

Cool, bye

[arctic grove]

Should I buy Battlefield 2042?

[grizzled whale]

if you want to play 2042 yes

[obsidian elk]

Hi guys I'm new, I've only played on the new map so far. Are all maps this heavily limited in terms of how many vehicles you can use?

I never get to use the F-35

[tame oracle]

stick to rust

[proven igloo]

Spend every last penny you have on as many copies as you can.

[lapis perch]

[arctic grove]

I doubt 2042 can be worst than rust 😭

[charred quest]

Not usually on my experience, I feel kaleidoscope and manifest are pretty good maps on terms of diversity

[obsidian elk]

My question was if every map has the same vehicle restrictions

[charred quest]

No

[tame oracle]

I once thought that too..

[obsidian elk]

Thanks

[charred quest]

The rust player base and games like it ie Ark can't be any less toxic than it already is

[tame oracle]

On the brightside.. 2042 had no voice chat for months. Therefore.. couldn't really be too toxic

[arctic grove]

fair for me to give dice some money for the crap they give you for free?

[charred quest]

I haven't really had too much of a toxic time in any battlefield game so idk

[proven igloo]

The in game text chat is perplexing. People spending so much time playing a game they hate.

[tame oracle]

They feel obligated to play a demo they paid more than $60 for

[slow crown]

i very rarely hear anyone use the in game voice chat, i thought that was heavily requested

[tame oracle]

Same with Cyberpunk

[arctic grove]

just salty bf vets who dont have anything else better to play. What are they supposed to do. go play cod?

[charred quest]

Cod has been pretty lacking since 2019

[arctic grove]

I spent 100 bucks and im trying to make my moneys worth.

[charred quest]

Cold war was decent however at least I liked the campaign

[arctic grove]

very short campaign shorter than vanguard

[tame oracle]

Vanguard has a campaign?

[obsidian elk]

The new MW2 has a battlefield-like mode that looks pretty fun.

I have never played a CoD with vehicles before, back in the day we'd always pick Battlefield for vehicles and CoD for first person arcade, so it's interesting to see the devs branch out. I want to play it and see how it goes. The campaign looks awesome too.

[arctic grove]

spend your money elsewhere, just a piece of advice

[arctic grove]

Imagine if cod makes a battlefield game mode better than dice

[lapis perch]

Yes, it's fair that if you don't put in the time to earn what's free but want it, that you can have the opportunity to shortcut it at a reasonable price. You even get to pick the Tier you want to buy up to. Good practice is to play when you can, and then like 11 weeks from now buy what remains as you wish but don't have time for. Quite reasonable.

[arctic grove]

wait until the game goes f2p

[arctic grove]

this is very much possible tbh, considering how mw2 is shaping up to be fantastic

[grizzled whale]

its not gonna go f2p

[arctic grove]

i think they are making maps actually designed for their battlefield/ground war mode now instead of just scaling up existing maps

[arctic grove]

hmmm 11 more weeks to grind. lets see how far i go.

[charred quest]

They just keep rushing crap out instead of making quality, whoever is at the helm at EA is making really poor decisions business wise

[obsidian elk]

Don't ask for financial advice from a Discord server. I shouldn't have to tell you that it would be optimal for you to just research and find out if you like the game.

The fact that you popped in here to ask this question already tells that you are interested in the game. We can't help you make your decision. You will never trust us even if you think you do

[arctic grove]

neither is 2042, whats your point?

[tame oracle]

MW2 reveal looked a little disappointing imo

[grizzled whale]

im literally talking about 2042

[charred quest]

How so?

[arctic grove]

tbh the graphics looked kinda iffy at times but the campaign gameplay looked incredibly good (especially considering its effectively pre-alpha gameplay)

Ima laugh and cry at the same time if cod makes a better bf game mode and ill change mypfp name to cod fanboy in this server.

[tame oracle]

It just looks the same as 2019. Not really a bad thing, but the trailer left me wanting more

[arctic grove]

sorry wrong context then

[obsidian elk]

The sound of the flashbang was amazing

[charred quest]

Isn't that what a trailer is supposed to do?

Get you hooked and wanting more?

[arctic grove]

the summer game fest stream made it look bad but after watching it at 4k60 it looks amazing

[tame oracle]

Wanting more features. Not as anticipation

[charred quest]

What features would you want to see added?

[loud flower]

I'm grinding the NTW-50 right now and ngl, it'd be so much better and increase the giggle factor by 1000 if it vaporized the limb hit

[arctic grove]

mw19 already looks much better than any other fps since then tbh so them refining and polishing it rather than revolutionizing it is totally acceptable in my book

its quite insane how ahead of its time and unmatched mw19 is

[tame oracle]

Not really sure, to be honest. The trailer just felt a little off

[summer zenith]

Cod is just you pay to use the same guns to play on old map

[charred quest]

They're learning from EA and DICE and instead of making an entirely new game and revolutionizing every game they make they used mw19 as a stepping stone and built off if it

[arctic grove]

i would probably wait for more gameplay before judging it considering its pre-alpha or even earlier at this stage

[lapis perch]

Here's an idea: Play the game you like better. It doesn't have to be some melodrama show online lol.

[desert elbow]

I feel like MW2 is aiming to be a lot more action packed & action-movie styled than MW2019. Sorta like the original COD4 and MW2

[ebon pilot]

and then resold it as a new game

[arctic grove]

mw2 has effectively been set up for success this year if infinity ward execute it well

[tame oracle]

I'm just worried that it's gonna be a throwaway game so they can work on Warzone 2

[arctic grove]

i highly doubt that

[lapis perch]

Then don't buy it, and see how it plays out within the first two months.

[arctic grove]

if anything the original warzone is getting dumped for mw2 and warzone 2

[charred quest]

Still don't understand this battle royal Bs bandwagon

[magic nova]

Literally id take 2042 over mw2

[dreamy panther]

You talking about ground war? If so it’s been in the game since MW19

[charred quest]

You're smoking

[tame oracle]

fr

[magic nova]

And bad company 2 over 2042

[arctic grove]

enjoy your game made by a skeleton crew

and one new map + 2 new guns after 8 months

[arctic grove]

yeah but it sucks. cod devs are working on it again and making it better

[magic nova]

Bc2 is my favorite game to date from when it released

[arctic grove]

also mw2 is gonna have 2 years of support for the first time in cod history

[charred quest]

You have to be high on some deep dish type stuff for you to say you'd take 2042 over mw2

[arctic grove]

so more content and support yay

[lapis perch]

I agree, actually. COD gunplay and map design feels like ass. I prefer Battlefield's design philosophies as far as MP.

[magic nova]

The 2022 mw2

[arctic grove]

lmfao

[shell reef]

Just hit someone with a grenade launcher on body my guy said hold on an blasted me….

[arctic grove]

i cant take these people seriously

[desert elbow]

I heard that the MW2 Ground War mode is going to have transport styled helicopters which can carry players in the back & allow you to paradrop from the cargo door

[tame oracle]

Have you guys seen sm² at all?

[summer zenith]

You mean "content" i bet they are gonna put mw2019 guns in it to fill it

[dreamy panther]

You’re tripping. Ground war was fire. It was my bread and butter. I had over 100k in ground war

[arctic grove]

what design philosophy? They literally tryin to copy cod lmao

[desert elbow]

They're also going to have a Rainbow Six Siege type mode

[arctic grove]

ehhh this time around they are actually designing maps around ground war, not using it as an afterthought

[desert elbow]

Do you know if it still has players?

[magic nova]

Yeah, I play heavy/support and battlefield bad company 2 has the lmgs right and 2042 has the ak24 right if I'm going to be engaging in combat ofc

[arctic grove]

you mean tarkov because thats gonna be the new dmz mode

[tame oracle]

Escape from Microtransactions

[loud flower]

Uh
My dude
Yes
Actual content
Not the "content" volume of BF42
Compare the battle passes and notice how DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT they are in terms of content value

[arctic grove]

also the vlk 3x shown in the gameplay looks reaaaaally good

[shell reef]

Also amazing how an smg out guns an ak

[dreamy panther]

It actually does but people having been playing ground war like it’s warzone. Literally using overkill with warzone setups 😂

[arctic grove]

im glad the weird fuzz they had in mw19 on he optics seems to be gone now

[loud flower]

smol caliber goes BRRRR

[white geyser]

I swear if MW2 2022 doesn't have the no Russian mission like in the original MW2, don't bother looking at any cutscene from the campaign if it's there or not

[ebon pilot]

no smol caliber go brrrr

[shell reef]

Yea but big caliber goes brabroebra

[charred quest]

If EA didn't have Soo many mictotransactions I'd actually want to buy more EA titles

[loud flower]

Kek
We don't even know if Makarov will be in MW22

[tame oracle]

Oh god. Can't even imagine that mission in 2022

[arctic grove]

if they actually made good games

[dreamy panther]

No they are actually making a game mode similar to r6

[arctic grove]

💯

[loud flower]

no more like BABABABABABABABABA

[charred quest]

That too

[arctic grove]

and didnt blatantly lie to their player base

[grizzled whale]

almost halfway to t1 on the asval

[ebon pilot]

me too, mastery 15

[shell reef]

And still doesnt do anything lmao

[arctic grove]

did anyone notice how on day 1 of season 1 they already had their "MOST POPULAR" battlefield coin bundle LMFAO

[loud flower]

Holy shit
Y'all cracked mfg

[charred quest]

If they continued support for BFV plenty of people would still be playing it, hell people are still playing it in larger numbers than 2042 anyway

[ebon pilot]

i unlocked it and its the only gun ive used

[loud flower]

Kek true
K30 shreds you in half before your AK finishes its burst

[arctic grove]

either desperate bf fanboys bought the boins or dice straight up lied

[arctic grove]

no one could even log in and they are already playing psychological tricks on their poor player base to get them to spend even more money

[desert elbow]

Nah DMZ is different, apparently there's going a hostage rescue mode where one team has to defend a building while the other team assaults it

[gentle stag]

Do battlepass missions work in singeplayer?

[arctic grove]

all you need to know about these companies

[lapis perch]

No

[shell reef]

Sad part i need 130 more kills for the s1 skin

[tame oracle]

Battlefield 5 has 14,000 players right now on Steam alone. Holy shit.

[arctic grove]

some were able to buy stuff on store and others couldnt until today

[desert elbow]

Ah that's frustrating to hear, might try it sometime

[gentle stag]

Aleight thanks

[arctic grove]

this was on day one lol

[charred quest]

Kinda like how they made a jab at the tanker that blocked the Suez with the canal blocker charm

[arctic grove]

that was one of the most disgusting lies i have seen

they really are trying to nickel and dime their nonexistent player base

yeah i know lmao. i saw the store to buy b-bucks was missing. just empty space like their content lmao

[magic nova]

Is anyone on 2042?

[loud flower]

One day I'll get a T1 skin, I'll obtain it in two years maybe and be surprised asf that I eventually reached it

[proven igloo]

You realise the "most popular" items in any digital store is just marketing BS

[dreamy panther]

Nope

[loud flower]

Fact

[tame oracle]

We on Super Mario 64, homie

[arctic grove]

no one can log in
dice: MOST POPULAR BUNDLE BUY IT NOW!!!!! GIVE US MORE MONEY!!!!

[loud flower]

Grinding bots rn

[arctic grove]

and some actually bought them. i met a guy who already has the lis 100 tier skin

[loud flower]

*EA

[magic nova]

Damn

[arctic grove]

both

[charred quest]

At this point they have to spend a few years developing a new battlefield and quit with all this mictotransactions bs and and even then they might not win back our trust

[dreamy panther]

Trust me. It’s just snipers with thermal, a lot of VLK scopes and warzone loads

[arctic grove]

i bet the devs themselves bought the bundle beforehand just to make it "most popular"

[shell reef]

The bots are sooooooooo ass tho

[arctic grove]

i can imagine this being so true tbh

[magic nova]

The new map is a little weird for support runners such as myself

[tame oracle]

I can't trust Battlefield ever again. I won't let myself trust them

[arctic grove]

All they have to do is give a remaster of bf3/4. Not hard to please bf fans.

[loud flower]

Eh don't care much ngl

[arctic grove]

well they tried to halfass it with portal and miserably failed (remember the love letter to fans?)

[charred quest]

Bots are decent farms on the new map for weapon unlocks

[tame oracle]

they sprinkled anthrax on the letter

[lapis perch]

It's more nuanced than that. Battlefield builds spaces for vehicles and aircraft and infantry. COD builds spaces for infantry. COD's gunplay also feels really simplistic, which I don't find satisfying or interesting. Battlefield is less frantic, and has opportunities and layouts to defend, COD has like 14 different flanks for any given position so that everybody keeps moving. Also, pre-2042, Battlefield felt a lot more innovative from iteration to iteration. Obviously COD was pretty cookiecutter FIFA/Madden for like ten years straight, at least. Historically, I prefer Battlefield. But I'll play any game that's good, the point is fun.

[proven igloo]

The BF community would still take offence, it's the custom.

[arctic grove]

and it was very effective to their credit

[arctic grove]

poor portal... no news of future content or any info on it... its just there... just abandoned. nothing in the road map indicated what they are planning for portal.

[arctic grove]

love letter to battlefield fans

[desert elbow]

They announced they are adding new jets yesterday

[arctic grove]

2042 in alpha launch felt like a chinese cod game. at least now it feels like a somewhat bf game.

[arctic grove]

lets be real and honest here, battlefield mobile is better than this

[arctic grove]

To portal?

[arctic grove]

sad to say it will be. it has destruction. on a fucking phone.

[arctic grove]

it also hasnt even officially launched yet

[proven igloo]

Yes, A-10 and Frogfoot.

[charred quest]

To even lie about not having a skeleton crew ok a dead game and say you're "committed to the future" is more of a sin than cutting off support for BFV

[arctic grove]

its still in beta

[lapis perch]

2042 has definitely gotten more enjoyable pretty much every update. I don't regret buying it at all, and look forward to each new update.

[arctic grove]

oh ok i didnt know. its something

its like ea are purposefully trying to embarrass themselves here as some part of a social experiment

i swear this game has been a social experiment

[arctic grove]

i look forward to each new update with caution. but i do hope it gets better

although credit where its due on the new map i guess

[lapis perch]

I mean, even if it doesn't, I have a zillion other options to play and things to do in life. One thing not being enjoyable barely matters

[arctic grove]

ive said this before: EA really thought the bf community would be like the cod fanbase just eating all the garbage but the community fought back and here we are.

imagine this game is taken as a part of an actual study and used as a social experiment

[lapis perch]

Like if I'm not enjoying a game, I stop playing it and go check out other shit I was interested in. Too easy

[arctic grove]

We now see why the community was divided and such.

[oak fable]

Is there going to be a bug patch soon?

[arctic grove]

its all part of a bbc documentary

[tame oracle]

They mixed the games up. Battlefield Mobile is the real 2042

[arctic grove]

like what? cod? halo infinite? fornut? R6? lately there hasnt been any good AAA titles apart from elden ring.

[arctic grove]

i think they accidentally switched the platforms too

i will probably play battlefield mobile in an emulator when it comes out

[livid tapir]

I still don't understand M5 trajectory sometimes it hits sometimes it seems to go through

[livid tapir]

0.0

[arctic grove]

im actually not being sarcastic here

[livid tapir]

Sometimes I shoot too late or too soon, it's never on point

[lapis perch]

Um, actually basically none of those, although I definitely rotate Rainbow Six Siege in regularly. I have legit like 40 games installed right now

[livid tapir]

If it's good bf game then it would be closest thing to classic bf experience

[arctic grove]

yeah people have played it already and its shaping up to be a decent classic bf experience

[livid tapir]

Doom is eternal

Someone teach me m5

[tame oracle]

Anyone remember BC2 on mobile?

[tame cobalt]

Any old school ratchet and clank enjoyers in chat? https://twitter.com/insomniacgames/status/1534306342608982016?t=ulPjPklAw5G2xwBcNq-hhg&s=19

[grizzled whale]

jak>rachet

[tame cobalt]

Cool opinion but wrong

[livid tapir]

How to recoilless m5?

[tame oracle]

Pray for no bullet bloom

[livid tapir]

There bloom in "recoilless" M5? 0.0

[tame oracle]

Probably lmao

[grizzled whale]

rachet and clank is literally discount jak and daxter

[tame cobalt]

Actual trash take

[livid tapir]

You know sometimes it feels like I aim correct but the projectile goes over the target

[desert elbow]

I played it, it was actually really fun ngl. I don't remember if it has destruction or not though

[livid tapir]

Frick

[grizzled whale]

its true

[tame oracle]

Maybe just aim for something else

[livid tapir]

Aim for their D then it'll be hs

[tame oracle]

Exactly

[livid tapir]

I mean P, m the only D anyway

[dim blade]

How yall enjoying the game?

[livid tapir]

Idk either

[tame oracle]

No comment

[dim blade]

ive seen posts of it reaching over 10k players on Steam, pretty impressive considering it almost fell below 1K at one point

[lapis perch]

Having a good time with it.

[grizzled whale]

almost 15k

[livid tapir]

insert hop op battlefield gif

[tame oracle]

Battlefield 5 is sitting at 14,000 right now

[dim blade]

yeah it might be the summer vacation

[grizzled whale]

halfway done

[dim blade]

as a factor for sure + the season 1 update

[livid tapir]

Coreziest logic

[grizzled whale]

friday evening+season 1

[dim blade]

oh i like that, everyone convert to CoreZism

[livid tapir]

+L+ratioed

[livid tapir]

Does it have clothes?

[dim blade]

robes

[livid tapir]

Nothing new, bye

[dim blade]

they glow

[livid tapir]

yawns

[tame oracle]

just jorts.

[livid tapir]

Raccism sounds interesting

[tame oracle]

Nickelback tshirt with sleeves cut off

[livid tapir]

No sleeve good

What's language of raccism?

[ebon pilot]

oh hey @haughty dagger

just saw you in the performance screen

[livid tapir]

I hate my taxes

[ebon pilot]

im above you on the scoreboard lmao

[haughty dagger]

yeah that game was rough. so many falk and angel not reviving

[tame oracle]

Don't do them.

[dim blade]

Heheh, i assumed that part of BF2042 hasnt changed

[livid tapir]

Govt does it anyway

[haughty dagger]

just usin the xbow. just unlocked 34 on BP

[ebon pilot]

fr, it makes me mad when i get most revives as falck or angel with only like 13 revives

[severe carbon]

the crossbow is hard to use but its so fun, so satisfying when you get a hit

[dim blade]

Reviving is discouraged in BF2042, in past games you just left quickly peeked and left clicked the dead teammate

[haughty dagger]

i went 41-11 last game with the xbow lol our team couldn't hold shit and let that tank in D1 tunnel sit there

[livid tapir]

You like it when it nibs you?

[haughty dagger]

that was prolly my worst game of the night

[severe carbon]

its also an interesting weapon as Im pretty sure its the only one to not have discrete damage dropoffs, instead gradually decreasing in damage from 32m onward, to a minimum of 35 damage at 75m (unless you get a headshot which is a guaranteed kill at any range)

[livid tapir]

There's damage falloff?

[haughty dagger]

Falk with ammo, beacon nade, is bis for support

[honest comet]

anyone tried out as val, is it good?

[severe carbon]

yeah every gun has damage falloff

[tame oracle]

There's your M5 problem lmao

[arctic grove]

lets see just how long it will take for the games player count on steam to plummet to below 2k again

[livid tapir]

There's everything in this that i dont like

[honest comet]

lol it wont plummet

[tame oracle]

bruh

[arctic grove]

this quantity of content is abysmal, this player count spike will not be sustained for long at all

[loud flower]

Fucking finally, I finished the 125+ m kills for the PSO scope on the NTW-50

Thank gosh we can grind stuff against bots

[honest comet]

well some said there wont be any ppl after update and made me laugh stock when i said 15k on s1 day by steam

[arctic grove]

because the season literally just came out 2 days ago...

[honest comet]

well we were speakin about day of launch

[arctic grove]

its literally normal for any games player count to spike after a major update

[honest comet]

but anyway it will sustain, at least 10k

[arctic grove]

the real question is how long this spike will be sustained and i personally dont think it will even last for 2 weeks

[tame oracle]

Doubt

[honest comet]

as long as ppl grind bp

[arctic grove]

LMAO the bp no one can actually grind rn you say?

[honest comet]

i can lol

[uncut bay]

working fine for plenty of people lmao

[grizzled whale]

everyone can grind the BP

[arctic grove]

so they fixed the bp? good on them

[honest comet]

how u ppl dont get bored from cryin

[uncut bay]

the weekly challenges will keep people coming back i think, not the entire spike but a good amount

[arctic grove]

1 map and 2 guns wont keep people around

[honest comet]

why do u want game to fail so badly, do u have really that much issues with yourself

[arctic grove]

lets be real here

[uncut bay]

it's keeping me around, the new map is the most fun i've had in all my hours

[grizzled whale]

imma ask again, why do you chose to spend your time here purely to shit on the game @arctic grove

[arctic grove]

if you think im purely shitting on this game for no reason then you are truly shortsighted

[honest comet]

game is really fun and great and feels like bf after this update

[grizzled whale]

all you do is talk shit about the game

[arctic grove]

but i gave dice credit where its due?

[honest comet]

u have issues my friend, go heal urself

[arctic grove]

"heal yourself"

[loud flower]

They should add a few daily missions, even if it's one or two progress points per mission
Because the XP requirement once you've hit 4~4.5k per point makes it extremely slow
Hopefully they reset that incremental increase every week along the new missions

[honest comet]

yeah, your psychoemotional situatation

[grizzled whale]

its clear that you dont like the game, never will, and dont play it.
So why are you here, do you really have nothing batter to do than sit on discord bashing a game you dont even play all day?

[honest comet]

exactly what he said 🙂

[uncut bay]

i agree, small daily missions would be nice

[livid tapir]

It's okay, some peeps lose their marbles after paying so much for pre order, he is after all just a victim

[honest comet]

issue is most of trash talkers nowdays havent even played the game lol

[sour meadow]

why did DICE turn transport choppers into unstoppable flying elephants

[arctic grove]

i have been around at launch and in the beta btw

i gave it another shot on a free weekend and saw nothing has changed

[honest comet]

beta was free for all lol everyone did beta, doesnt count lol

[uncut bay]

still trying to work that one out

[loud flower]

I'm grinding bots and doing more kills than I'll ever do in MP every game and yet I'm still insanely struggling to get one tier every time
I'm on tier 20, grinding 9 tier worth of level points to get to the crossbow, especially with the incremental increase of the XP threshold, it's gonna be a nightmare if we're not already next week

[sour meadow]

attack choppers literally flee from the fucking things

[honest comet]

so u dont own the game but u trash talk, this is funny

[arctic grove]

i have every right to trash talk this game

[grizzled whale]

but why

[honest comet]

yeah if u buyed it obviously

[arctic grove]

because i actually played it and know what dice have fucked up big time

[grizzled whale]

literally everyone knows your opinion at this point, do you really not have anything better to do?

[honest comet]

u played dumb ass beta and one free weekend and u want to judge something?

[uncut bay]

you didn't even know that the bp was fixed lol you're obviously not up to date with the game

[arctic grove]

im sorry i dont keep up with every piece of news lmao

[honest comet]

he doesnt own the game, he played beta and free weekend

[loud flower]

I mean, it was fixed withing 2-3h of it going live

[sour meadow]

a cannon that can kill armor very easily and two miniguns that can melt choppers and infantry, flares, and 2 passenger seats for transport. that's not transport that's a fucking bf1 behemoth

[uncut bay]

when you're gonna trash a game it's usually good to know what you're talking about

[arctic grove]

well yeah cause i refunded it

[magic nova]

You can't tell me wrong, irish is literally Morgan fredman if he was in the military

[tame oracle]

lucky ass

[honest comet]

just give up and go waste ur time somewhere else

[loud flower]

Condor ? Yeah it do be like that
The hind is a hateful bitch to go against as well

[arctic grove]

i feel truly blessed fr

[uncut bay]

condor is strong asf but i still get shit pilots

[honest comet]

u cant refund it tho lol

[sour meadow]

i hate the hind because the miniguns don't have the same field of view as the condor.

[arctic grove]

amazing how aggressive you are

[grizzled whale]

dude cant even answer a question

[sour meadow]

but it doesn't matter much when your pilot is constantly flying like a git

[honest comet]

from what i know nobody got accepted to refund so he lieing

[arctic grove]

LMAOOOOOO 💀

[loud flower]

Wait, when did you refund it
Because if it was during or just post beta, how can you talk about it if you haven't played it since Beta ?

[arctic grove]

i cant anymore

[next onyx]

Had this dude complaining that the VSS / VAL doesn't fit the game and that chambering it in two different rounds at once is unrealistic.

[honest comet]

hes lieing lol

[tame oracle]

I've heard of people going through a steam rep and getting a refund

[next onyx]

No shit. It's battlefield.

[livid tapir]

Ah now u r in a losing argument

[next onyx]

It's as unrealistic as COD.

[arctic grove]

so you guys never heard of steam giving refunds?

[uncut bay]

he played on launch and at a free weekend lmao he knows nothing

[honest comet]

yeah he said he played beta and free weekend but he refunded lol

[loud flower]

I hate the hind because I see no difference in how much I get killed by these gunships
They're not transport aircrafts, they're gunships as far as I'm concerned

[livid tapir]

Teach me recoilless m5

[arctic grove]

i refunded before the free weekend and then tried it out again

[sour meadow]

for real

[arctic grove]

is it that hard to comprehend?

[tame oracle]

weird question. why does your activity status say "bf2042"? It's not like the others in the server

[sour meadow]

game is shite. everyone deserved refunds. argument over

[honest comet]

whatever u dont own it anymore, so bye bye 🙂

[uncut bay]

honestly have to wonder who thought making a fast, agile, and armored gunship would be a good idea. Needs a nerf

[arctic grove]

i remember cyberpunk giving out mass refunds because of how shit and underdelivered it was

[honest comet]

dice lol

[proven igloo]

Honestly, they would be fine if the nose guns were just chain guns.

[sour meadow]

i think people were crying because they saw transport in bf3 and 4 and said "this don't farm infantry easily enough. change it"

[honest comet]

but nobody complains on shitbird for some reason thats op as well

[uncut bay]

because of false advertising and literal faked demos, cyberpunk is in no way comparable to 2042

[loud flower]

Sure but it doesn't mean that you've played enough to have the right to talk shit on the game
We're allowed to do so because every second we play we can notice the issues
But we also see the drastic improvements from day one
You played only during the beta and free openings, that's not a qualification to critic the game fairly

[sour meadow]

EA

[uncut bay]

those rocket pods are absurd, melt through infantry with no way to counter with how fast they move

[white dagger]

Can you only play conquest on Exposure and Hourglass at the moment? Or am I just unlucky to get only these two maps?

[sour meadow]

last time i tried to use the littlebird, i was instantly killed by the new launcher. twice

[uncut bay]

map rotation is random so you're just unlucky

[honest comet]

this bitch liein, u can only refund game in first 24 hours lol

[white dagger]

Just got Hourglass again. Twice in a row

[honest comet]

unless he didnt launch the game at all which i doubt

[grizzled whale]

still hasnt answered my question

[uncut bay]

tv missiles are useful against lighter aircraft but they're just super maneuverable, any motion perpendicular to the rocket's path will let you dodge it

[white dagger]

The heck. I want to play Orbital or something like that

[loud flower]

Weirdly enough, I never manage to kill much with the rocket pods
I get kills but never enough to car the NB OP
I remember how much it decimated point holders on BT Kaleidoscope on the first positions but when I try to do the same thing on the same population density, the kills just aren't there...

[proven igloo]

I see you haven't had your missile slide off the side of a helicopter yet.

[honest comet]

@arctic grove after how long did u refund game?

[grizzled whale]

the fact that he doesnt even own the game anymore and is still here all day complaining about it makes it all the more sad

[uncut bay]

i don't play vehicles myself, but with the rampages i see... it's insane, one little bird with rockets can decimate a whole objective

[severe carbon]

I can't say I've ever stuck around in a discord for a game I refunded months prior just to shit on it to the people who do play it, that's kinda weird. Like if you want the game to be better and have productive discussions and share valid complaints so maybe one day you will buy it that's one thing but idk why people just want to shit on the game as a hobby

[uncut bay]

i could swear one of mine scraped the cockpit

[honest comet]

he lies, u gotta refund in first 24 hours if u launched the game

[white dagger]

And why can you only choose 1 vehicle from the attack category on Hourglass? It was 4 some time ago. What are we supposed to do with 1? It’s like impossible to fly a helicopter on Hourglass now

[uncut bay]

i thought lis rockets would be op but they honestly need a buff to either mobility or damage

[fair pilot]

Is the BSV-M good? (I think that's what it's called)

[loud flower]

Ever since Beta and post release month, I haven't seen a single bird doing that again so that's why I'm rather confused

[grizzled whale]

he said "gaming is a big part of my life"
Then why do you sit around complaining about a game you dont own and dont like in a discord channel specifically made for that game

[chilly umbra]

its very gOOd

[proven igloo]

Also found out the hard way that the wings on the Hind and Hookum aren't part of their hitboxes.

[loud flower]

Didn't you ask that yesterday mate ?
Yeah it's good

[grizzled whale]

yeah, its incredible both as an smg and dmr

[severe carbon]

I like it a lot, very fun to use and the adaptability is very handy with the way maps are designed

[fair pilot]

Nah yesterday I asked what was the gun lmao

[chilly umbra]

and AR

[grizzled whale]

im almost at the funny weed number guys!

[loud flower]

You asked how to switch fire mode as well

[fair pilot]

Better than the K30 though?

[loud flower]

How the fuck
You know there is other operators, right ?

[honest comet]

uf nice job

[grizzled whale]

are those other operators mackay?

[severe carbon]

No thank God it's not better than the K30

[chilly umbra]

Main Macky is best

[loud flower]

At range, yes, up close, no

[fair pilot]

Alright lmao

[honest comet]

im grindin mckay skins as well

f i replyied to myself lol

[severe carbon]

Yeah at range it's a great marksman rifle, at medium range it's decent, at short range it's okay. I did some testing on the damage falloff and ttk for it if anyone's curious. 300ms is the ttk for below 30m, regardless of ammo type

[honest comet]

which gun?

[loud flower]

VSS

[severe carbon]

The BSV-M

[ebon pilot]

VSS VAL

[honest comet]

ah i plan to use it after i unlock it

[loud flower]

AS Val
VSS Vintorez
"Know the difference"

[honest comet]

atm playin with scar

[tame cobalt]

bf 2042 redemption arc

[uncut bay]

i'm really enjoying the ak atm, will prob get it t1

[honest comet]

ak also nice

[severe carbon]

People sure love using the wrong names for guns lol

[tame cobalt]

please make 8 seasons for 2042

[honest comet]

im tryin to t1 all guns, atm only did t1 with m5

[severe carbon]

Or at least different from the in game names, always confuses me

[ebon pilot]

I have T1 M5 and PP, almost T1 on AK

[uncut bay]

i wish there were more skin rewards, would make the grind less tedious

[loud flower]

Bro, I'm trying to P12 the lever action and the magnum, I'm about to pull out my eyes of frustration

[severe carbon]

I really only care about the character skins, I never notice gun skins

[tame cobalt]

EA can revive the game by putting out trailers showing clips of content creators saying how much the game has improved, then play those trailers at big e3-type showcases

[uncut bay]

we see gun skins the most so i'd enjoy more of them

[loud flower]

Also DICE please fix attachment unlocking
Why is my P1 attachments locked for the AC-42 but literally all other level of attachments have been unlocked

[grizzled whale]

i think dice went to the warzone school of "how to make rocks the most fucking annoying thing in a game"

[severe carbon]

Yeah I have the kills to unlock the long barrel on the BSV but it won't unlock 😕

[loud flower]

You're talking about the forcefield again ?

[grizzled whale]

the forcefield, the fact that you cant mantle on most rocks, falling off rocks you are EASILY able to stand on

[uncut bay]

dude after coming back from... literally any game with good climbing mechanics it's fucking torture. Can't climb anything, always going around

[loud flower]

It used to fix itself simply by reaching the next Prestige tier in MP but it fucking doesn't this time around
Well, it's only the AC42 that's concerned and only for one tier but it's still extremely annoying by principle

[loud flower]

Yeah I've encountered those as well, goddamn our operators can't climb for shit
Where's QA at ffs

[uncut bay]

i usually like to defend QA but this is just every rock all over the map, idk what went wrong

maybe just not enough time for devs to work on it

[proven igloo]

Stuff like that is very low on the totem even if QA finds it.

[visual horizon]

i had no idea the walls of the cargo ships fell down like that

[ebon pilot]

it was in the reveal trailer

[arctic grove]

its been 8 months

[uncut bay]

cool bro stop talking to me

[ebon pilot]

programming hard

[arctic grove]

8 months for 1 map, how can you defend this

[uncut bay]

there's a lot of small levolution events around the maps, pretty sure at least one on each

[grizzled whale]

you still havent answered my question @arctic grove

[arctic grove]

im genuinely curious

[proven igloo]

I swear this discord is on repeat.

[vital latch]

someone knows what skin is displayed in the "weapon cosmetics" tab in the store?

[finite ivy]

Is there players or is it just oceanic servers? Constantly getting 3/128 players can't play

[vital latch]

i swear ive never seen it, its on the SVK or DM7 i cant tell

[arctic grove]

but yknow by now bf4 had dozens of maps and dlcs

[uncut bay]

honestly if you're oce or sea you might just need to give up, those areas always have the least players, and with an overall player count this low you're outta luck

[ebon pilot]

weren't bf4 maps a lot smaller?

[arctic grove]

not necessarily

[zealous oyster]

I'm OCE and find games pretty easily though

[proven igloo]

People didn't want to pay for content. So here we are.

[arctic grove]

so "live service" is a shitty excuse for shitty content then

[noble scaffold]

what happens if you don’t get all he rewards before the season ends? for example the helicopter, if you didn’t play like at all and season ends then what happens? do you get the hellicopter?

[grizzled whale]

and im genuenly curious why you are here every day complaining about a game you dont own, dont play and dont like ,instead of doing something better with your time

[finite ivy]

I think it's worse that I'm on console too? I can't even find portals games there's only two available with 300 ping

[vital latch]

they said there'll be a way to get everything

[ebon pilot]

M5A3 with the Evergreen skin

[noble scaffold]

ah great thanks

[silk surge]

The new DMR with extended mag feels more like an SMG than the actual SMGs lmao

[vital latch]

thanks a ton, how is it unlockable tho

[noble scaffold]

was just wondering, i’ve not got a whole lot of time so if i miss something you know

[uncut bay]

you probably get them either for free or as a challenge. The skins and other cosmetics likely are locked away forever

[ebon pilot]

except SMGs will absolutely kill you if you try using the DMR as it

[vital latch]

oh i see its a free bundle lmao

[silk surge]

I've noticed that it outdamages MP9, PP, and PBX at close range, but is easily beaten by K30.

[ebon pilot]

idk i just got it

[silk surge]

The new DMR is the second best SMG in the game

[vital latch]

theyll add it soon to sym.gg but i think MP9 and K30 are better?

[proven igloo]

Been having fun picking off snipers with it.

[vital latch]

MP9 has more dps until 5m than K30 anyway

[ebon pilot]

I think it's great at short-medium - long range. But in short range you're better off with something else unless you can hit a headshot oncce

[silk surge]

I think sym.gg knows a lot more than I do, but that's from my anecdotal experience with this gun.

[vital latch]

or smth like that. plus with the SMG you have 50 bullets lol

[high mantle]

BSV is definitely a fun gun at range, it's alright at close distance

[vital latch]

with incredible hipfire

[high mantle]

Overall the versatility of it is just amazing

[zealous oyster]

Except you can use it as a DMR and a SMG. K30 you're limited to a close range SMG

[vital latch]

thats the point ye

[next onyx]

You can two tap people and out TTK everyone else.

[vital latch]

and tbh you can burst well with smg at range, youd be surprised

[uncut bay]

very excited to try out the vss, an effective smg and dmr in one sounds like a dream

[silk surge]

It's a 3 shot kill with the medium range mags, and a lot more accurare than DM7 which is a 4 shot kill.

[vital latch]

i cant wait to unlock it

[ebon pilot]

yeah, it's what I wish the DM7 was

[high mantle]

also just the fact that it's automatically suppressed is great. gotta love integrated suppressors

[uncut bay]

integrated suppressor guns are heaven, all of them, love it

[silk surge]

The new DMR feels exactly like M1 Garand from BFV, but with slightly higher mag size. The firerate and TTK is pretty wack for a DMR.

[zealous oyster]

Though you cant use a Barrel for better accuracy

Though bloom shouldnt exist in the first place

[haughty dagger]

feels better as an SMG setup or AR

[vital latch]

can someone dm me the attachments of the BSV like the menu

[high mantle]

You know, this feels spot on. Integrated suppressor is a good compensation for lack of bayonets in the future imo

[silk surge]

Havent unlocked the 20 AR-esque mag yet.

[grizzled whale]

jesus

[high mantle]

I would if I was still playing right now 😔

[grizzled whale]

nice

[vital latch]

new stealth heli players be like

[silk surge]

Zero revives???? Angel doesn't do it again.

[grizzled whale]

bro im a mackay main

[high mantle]

Mackay enjoyer gang rise up

[vital latch]

Pathfinder main??

[grizzled whale]

yassssss new banner

[silk surge]

I know, but you gave me shit for not reviving while I was a gunner for a hind 😁

[vital latch]

just revive from above

"jesus strikes down in .50"

[zealous oyster]

I'll give you shit for being a gunner for a hind though.

[grizzled whale]

im not

[high mantle]

also random note: Balidan body + that helmet that's very similar to that of Fuze from R6 = spectacular outfit for Rao. Can't think of the name of the helmet in game, but it's the one unlocked through weekly challenges a few weeks ago

[proven igloo]

Untainted, good.

[fair pilot]

I asked this question yesterday but am asking again since I still have this problem. Is anyone else only getting the maps "discarded and Hourglass" if you try to play the normal Conquest mode?

[vital latch]

regular BF4 medic helmet

[grizzled whale]

you come around a corner and see this wyd

[zealous oyster]

Get sniped before you even kill 1

[high mantle]

realistic answer: panic and kill maybe 1 of them
what I would try to do if no panic: lob C5 all over the place

[silk surge]

What was even the reward for this? Just Battlepass xp? Should be giving out boins tbh.

[grizzled whale]

False, you slip and fall off the mountain and fucking die because someone seems to have covered every inch of it in soap

[high mantle]

Sounds about right honestly.

[grizzled whale]

yeah BP tokens

[loud flower]

BP progress points, yeah
You see the blue dot with the number ? That's the amount of progress points you get

[high mantle]

on one hand, I kind of hate how The Battle Pass™ has come across literally every game nowadays, but on the other hand, I actually really like how progression for this one is done

[static sleet]

ggggggg only 2 map and game now

2x day game and only 2 map XDDDDDD

[uncut bay]

i don't mind battle passes, i've come to terms with the fact that dlc packs are a thing of the past. It's basically just free content now

[loud flower]

Well, it's cheap content, you get loads of stuff for a really decent price, provided you grind it of course
I don't like or dislike the progress system but I certainly do find it interesting in it's unique way to account of progress

[loud flower]

They realized that not everyone has the means for fucking P2W content packages so they went and made cosmetics instead which is a W for everyone involved since it's so much more accessible and extremely marketable

[high mantle]

this is a really good take actually and it's honestly changing my stance on battle passes in games. some dev teams definitely put out some shitty ones, though.

[fair pilot]

One last question. What does the stealth mode on the new helicopters do? I'm not actually invisible am I?

[uncut bay]

you don't show up on minimap and can't be locked onto

it's a bitch to deal with as infantry and i honestly don't know how i feel about it, especially considering they can drop bombs

[honest comet]

lol bein invisible would be a hack

[signal trout]

i wonder when are they going to bring weapon emplacements, anti air stations, commander, air support and demolition back

[honest comet]

those would be nice

u have some in exodus mode with older maps

[signal trout]

yeah but thats portal

[lilac dust]

Is the stealth chopper exclusive to exposure? does it spawn on any other map?

[high mantle]

I know this is #battlefield-2042 but I can't help but think of the days where somehow everyone was okay with shit like the Fedorov Avtomat in BF1 being pay-to-win. Much prefer the current system of battle passes, now that I think about it.

[honest comet]

its in all maps

[signal trout]

fedorov*

[fair pilot]

so what does it do

[lilac dust]

Woah... that's gonna annoy people then lol

[high mantle]

ty, I forgor 💀 the spelling and wasn't sure

[honest comet]

basicly u cant get locked onto and u cant see it on radar

[uncut bay]

yep, battle passes/live service are overall better for the player as well as the game's longevity

[signal trout]

ne ma problema

[honest comet]

plus u can drop bombs in stealth mode, but if u use other weapons ur visible

[loud flower]

You're immune to AA missiles aside of the recoilless and the new operator's RPG and you cannot use your primary armament but you can drop a cluster of 4 bomb that deal a great amount of damage

[fair pilot]

Alright, tysm

[loud flower]

They seem to go back to attack mode when they take the slightest amount of damage

[honest comet]

or if u fire any weapons that isnt bomb

[uncut bay]

hope we get more anti air weaponry, or that current ones are buffed

[honest comet]

i agree

[honest comet]

also my bad for bein critical to you before, you actually care about the game and value the updated

[proven igloo]

God yes please.

[slim quiver]

i hope they nerf air vehicles

[haughty dagger]

Lol why. There’s only like 1 or 2 up at any time

[slim quiver]

mainly the stealth choppers and condor since those are broken

[chilly jacinth]

stealth chopper i agree with but condor is like the biggest and easiest target to kill

[uncut bay]

because they're overpowered and downright broken

[uncut bay]

it's literally a giant agile gunship, it's the one thing that needs to be nerfed

[high mantle]

I feel more pain going against good Super Hinds or Super Hokums than Condors

[chilly jacinth]

i rarely see the condor survive for longer than 5min

[uncut bay]

must have bad pilots then, a decent pilot can make every other air vehicle run

[haughty dagger]

the only way they even stay up long is if they have 2 repair people

[uncut bay]

it's too strong, too fast, and too manveuverable

[uncut bay]

i wish lol air vehicles just need to fly to one end of the map and wait for auto repair to undo any work done on them

even easier on exposure where there's a giant ridge to hide behind

[silk surge]

Wait there's a badge for season 1? You can literally T1 season 1 lmao

[uncut bay]

you completed it? What's that for?

[slim quiver]

T. Condor

[lilac dust]

That for completing the Battlepass?

[topaz slate]

Kinda wonder why people can't leave this game alone.. still more and more clowns nonstop pulling out videos moaning about same things of 2042.. if you don't like the game just play something else.. everyone praises old BF games how awesome they were etc but all they do is keep playing 2042 and cry about it like xD..

[terse raft]

Guys am I the only whit battlepass problems?

[topaz slate]

@terse raft nope, I am tier 20 and still can't use new operator and half of the cammos and stuff (I have premium pass yes)

[tame cobalt]

Time to play some battlefield

[terse raft]

@topaz slate I hope that they fix this problem

[topaz slate]

Mostly people who jumped in early and unlocked some stuff as servers went to shit got this issue

[terse raft]

@topaz slate I agree

[topaz slate]

They will eventually fix but anything I unlocked onwards so far works just unlucky I can't try new specialist

[terse raft]

Fortunately I have this problem only for the levels 1 2 3 4 and with the Angel skin

[jolly sail]

why? most of them are garbage except transport

[topaz slate]

Air vehicles are fine now as they are, very skilled pilots can still go nutts but average player gets shit on in it.. if anything tanks need some buffs as they are melted by new specialist now

[terse raft]

The new stealth helicopters are pretty fun to use

[woven acorn]

wanna party up?

[jolly sail]

well jets for sure still feel terrible and idk abt leaving helicopters the way they are

[slim quiver]

no the stealth choppers and transports are broken

[tame cobalt]

No

[terse raft]

Am i the only that he feel like James Bond in this map?

[slim quiver]

and the fact that a transport is broken should tell you the state of helicopters right now.

[woven acorn]

excuse me

[lilac dust]

When you get 1st place for 8 revives 😳 Pls be a team player people

[jolly sail]

what makes stealth broken?

[visual horizon]

i found an error

[tame cobalt]

I'm in south africa so can't tho

[topaz slate]

Transport is not really broken, transport Heli is immobile all it takes is a bit of teamplay or little bird that knows what he is doing and transport is gone

[lapis perch]

It's French; we're shootiers

[jolly sail]

yea thats dumb and quite a dogshit state

[topaz slate]

2 top down strikes from jet and you get transport out easily

[slim quiver]

uhhh one they can negate soflam in stealth mode and they have twin 30mm explosive auto cannons

and they maneuver so quickly, they can get out of anything

[topaz slate]

Stealth has solid CD

[slim quiver]

not when its a condor

[topaz slate]

• idk if rayo hacks it if it doesn't break the stealth mode or not have to test that

[lapis perch]

Thiccdor*

[slim quiver]

all it takes is someone who knows the basics of using a condor and theyre above proficient right away

[topaz slate]

I rarely see good condor pilots

[gray mist]

anyone else only loading into like 3 map varieties or is that how its supposed to be

[slim quiver]

you dont even need a good condor pilot, just one that understands how to fly it

[topaz slate]

Again I had 0 issue taking condors out even new ones

During "jet" mode they barely deal dmg

[slim quiver]

then you're definitely against shit condo pilots

[topaz slate]

And as they get stale just get on top of it and it's ez

[woven acorn]

is the condor the transport that can transition from vertical to horizontal flight

[slim quiver]

its not about dealing damage in jet mode, its above their maneuverability

[jolly sail]

the gun is pretty good in theory but useless on the pilot because that thing is really squishy and if you get pushed by a transport thats it. abt stealth mode it lowkey sucks because you need to activate it before the aa missile is fired

[terse raft]

Anyway I have a lot of fun when i take an helicopter and shoot on the B2 objective. It feels like a James Bond's movie

[woven acorn]

I use the condors specifically to transport ppl in and out, I dont care about their damage output

[topaz slate]

Still people do mistakes and get beneath transports.. just stay on top of then with jet. 0 chance

Can't do anything if you time strikes properly and stay on top of them

[loud flower]

and they do be droppin' bombs too

[slim quiver]

yes

[jolly sail]

against 2 repairs and 3 gunner you lose anyway

[tame cobalt]

I can't fly in bf

[slim quiver]

yeah the fuckin HE bombs, totally unnecessary when helis have 30mm/50mm auto cannons

[topaz slate]

@jolly sail 3 gunners won't touch you, unless you fly on their level or below

[terse raft]

@slim quiver In my opinion is balanced

[fossil trench]

More boom is more boom 🤷‍♂️

[topaz slate]

• condors are AA spammed all the time so there is a lot for them to care about

If I play against high air superior diehards I just go soflam and 3 friends Recoilless and keep farming xD

[jolly sail]

but if it just spends a little amount of time flying up before pushing you it just fucks over any other heli, maybe jet too but those could get away

[loud flower]

Last stretch on the NTW-50 grind
I'll have it P12 this game or next one, finally

[slim quiver]

yeah and then it just rips up infantry

[tame cobalt]

Why does rush with bots have restricted xp?

[slim quiver]

condors can aim up

[jolly sail]

it seems dumb using your defensive mechanism to go in

[topaz slate]

@jolly sail its all about the skill gap in the end.. i think all vehicles are fine now it all depends most on people using them and thats how it should be.. i would rather have strong transport if its full of players than old spam of attack helis, nightbird and virgin boltes

[slim quiver]

and yet they just do it to rack up kills

[uncut bay]

the stealth bombs are dumb and unnecessary, realised that last night when i tried locking on to one and thought "oh damn nvm" and then saw it go on to drop bombs on my teammates behind me. What is dice even thinking with these air vehicles

[slim quiver]

like most vehicle mains, their entire objective is never to counter other vehicles

its literally to just farm as much infantry as possible because thats the most efficient

[tame cobalt]

I actually love the full/restricted xp modifiers, it keeps people from making horseshit modes, but normal rush with bots should be full xp

[topaz slate]

reason i love exposure as i can 100% avoid vehicle spammers if i want

[woven acorn]

just tried flying the condor with mouse and keyboard, what sensitivity should it be set to because holy heck I couldn't move for shit

[slim quiver]

yes you can thankfully by mostly sitting in specific areas

[median path]

does irish counter new specialist?

[haughty dagger]

no

[slim quiver]

but you can't avoid them in other areas

[woven acorn]

ay we're in the same game atm lol

[uncut bay]

i like that a lot too, don't need to deal with vehicles if i don't want to

[topaz slate]

@tame cobalt i dont think any mode with bots should be full XP peopple will just farm T1 masteries in week

[median path]

what

[jolly sail]

I disagree its way too easy to get a free kill with transport heli on other helis, you just fly high enough and get repairs

[woven acorn]

I saw you ask that in-game

[topaz slate]

limit to mastery 13 then its fine as it is in coop modes

[slim quiver]

people want bots with full xp so they can unlock everything without having to fight anyone

[median path]

huh

[uncut bay]

i don't care for it much but the fact that dice advertised it and then didn't deliver is scummy

[topaz slate]

@jolly sail again if you are allowed to hang high air its the enemy pilots being trash sadly

[tame cobalt]

IDGAF what people farm.
Just let me play the fucking game normally. That includes unmodified modes with bots.

[jolly sail]

that's because as atk heli gunner you deal 0 dmg to tanks and lavs

[topaz slate]

i mean you still can unlock all attatchments and get everything working agianst bots so? having tier 1 unlocked with bots just ruins it

[fossil trench]

True

[topaz slate]

the way it is now is fine

[uncut bay]

point is dice said there'd be full progression, and frankly i don't care about people farming t1. Doesn't mean anything to me, i know i got it legit

[tame cobalt]

I want bots with full xp so i can play the game normally. There is no other way for me to play rush with full xp.

[topaz slate]

all they should remove imo is the XP cap for global lvl with bots as global lvl doesnt really mean anything imo

[vast pecan]

Hey everyone, what does the premium badge with the number next to it mean in the main menu? It's next to the BFC badge.

[slim quiver]

playing the game normally is playing online

[jolly sail]

as atk heli pilot you never go out of your way to push a transport because its tanky af and you literally have to pray it doesnt have 2 reps and gunners who spam you as they see you

[slim quiver]

up the damage on vehicles, lower on infantry. but they cant buff it too much because the pilot can do a lot of damage vs an attack heli and tank

[tame cobalt]

Yes, online with bots. Otherwise i sit in an empty lobby forever.

[slim quiver]

idk how

[tame cobalt]

Full xp with bots.

[rain wolf]

that's your battle pass rank

[jolly sail]

it already takes 17 hits to kill inf at 180m+

[slim quiver]

what region?

[tame cobalt]

Africa

[slim quiver]

17 hits with what?

[tame cobalt]

They can make it so only easy bots are restricted.

[vast pecan]

Ok thank you!

[jolly sail]

atk heli gun

[slim quiver]

the 30mm?

[visual horizon]

i might just be the greatest Super-Hind pilot in the world

went a full game, pulled nearly 60 assists

[jolly sail]

yea unless you get direct hits but that's another story

[tame cobalt]

Restricting XP for playing the game the only way i can, is downright bullshit.

[jolly sail]

wait no the gunner gun, i think its 20mm

[uncut bay]

it is, but some elitists are fine with it. Fuck knows how

[visual horizon]

the new operator's gadget is OP against ground vehicles, icl

[slim quiver]

i doubt thats 17 hits

[fair pilot]

Why the hell will it only give me two map options for Conquest

[visual horizon]

huh?

[tame cobalt]

Restricting xp farmers should be less important than giving everyone a chance to play normally.

[uncut bay]

caring about levels and t1 mastery is dumb, as if any of it means anything

[visual horizon]

need to get that T1 drip

[jolly sail]

it is at 180m+ which is always lol because of dmg drop off, it might be less if you hit directs inbetween but you know how likely that is if they move weirdly or hide

[tame cobalt]

Absolutely.

[uncut bay]

and people would still be able to, they just have an issue with other people getting it for some reason. Muh effort and dedication

[fair pilot]

When I try to place conquest, it always only plays the maps Deserted or Hourglass.

[visual horizon]

bad luck i guess

[slim quiver]

i mean we really shouldnt be complaining about splash damage not killing people as quickly as direct shots

[woven acorn]

is anyone playing on PC with a controller seeing <not set> appear when they pause the game? cant access options or anything because of it

[jolly sail]

well you said you want less dmg against inf but the atk heli gunner already looks ridiculous and is perkless

I calculated direct hits before but don't remember

[slim quiver]

obviously though splash damage shouldnt be encouraged to be buffed

imagine having it easy killing people by not hitting them directly but with hitting them "close by"

[fair pilot]

It's not bad luck because it's literally two days in a row

[fair pilot]

Anyone else have this?

[slim quiver]

its funny because people in here were crying that helicopters and jets were so underpowered and that pilots have it so rough in this game. God forbid right, after multiple games of air power being incredibly broken the past decade. BFV had zeroes and annoying as hell planes. BF1 had heavy bombers and attack planes both annoying (mainly heavy bomber). BF4 attack helicopters, BF3 jets. Air power has dominated in so many games its annoying

[jolly sail]

I dont think it would be a problem with more atk helis and jets on the maps as well as increased dmg against armored vehicles so you wont really have time to deal w inf

[slate meadow]

so has the patch dropped yet?

[loud flower]

WOOHOO
I HAVE P12'D ALL GUNS BUT TWO
FINALLY

[tame cobalt]

Facts

[slim quiver]

that would be a huge problem

[uncut bay]

i feel like since air vehicles are such a big part of battlefield dice might be afraid to make them too weak. Still no excuse though

[slim quiver]

the only thing bots shouldnt do is count towards K/D and leaderboard stats

[woven arch]

this new update is really shit because it now always indicates that something is wrong and during a game and then the game keeps crashing

[slim quiver]

theres so many big parts of battlefield. Its time there was a game where pilots actually felt stress instead of a relaxing sandbox

[uncut bay]

or have a separate k/d for bots. It's not like we're working with rocket science

[jolly sail]

yea but if you look at the stealth gunner its impossible to kill anything w it because it has 0 splash, I don't mind the original atk heli gun as it is apart from the vehicle dmg

[loud flower]

I know I could grind the Magnum and the lever action but I've had a taste of how gruesome it is to grind these total pieces of shit so I'll get to it eventually, just not now

[woven arch]

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[jolly sail]

normally only prople cry abt air vehicles if they are bad at using them themselves because they don't have the pstience to practice

[woven arch]

I keep getting this message

[finite ivy]

But it's also hard to practice when some people are extremely good?

[slim quiver]

or its that they just want to farm people

[loud flower]

This 100%
I tried to learn how to fly the jets only to get shit on by other people with thousands of hours of dogfight
I doubt they even know there is more to the game than the damn planes

[jolly sail]

why would that be? jets in this game suck at killing ground so all they do is chase helis and as heli you sadly need to respect them and you cant shoot ground in the meantime

[jolly sail]

well no shit someone who practiced should beat your ass its not a slot mashine but supposed to be a somewhat competitive and rewarding game no?

[silk surge]

Exposure reminded me how little I missed Metro. Thank god that there are other less meatgrindy objectives on the map.

[loud flower]

They don't suck at killing ground stuff, you need 4-5 AGMs, like on helps anyway
It just happens that it's not practical to do so because they're probably not built with this in mind

[jolly sail]

who doesn't wna farm people who are worse at the game? not talking abt air v inf rn but how more air vehicles means less ground farm

[slim quiver]

attack helicopter number increasing would be a huge problem

[rain wolf]

okay, but when your whole point is "if people actually practiced with air vehicles they'd be good with them" you can't just say "yeah you won't ever get to practice because everyone else is better than you"

[slim quiver]

the more attack helicopters in the air, the more farming of infantry from air power. What part dont you get

[loud flower]

There is something I don't get
Why do stealth helos drop bomb
But the planes can't
F-35E literally says it's a multirole craft, made for bombing and air superiority, we have AGMs but bombs would be nice though

[jolly sail]

dont want to be mean or anything bit that sounds like they do suck imo if you compare to bf3 or 4

[rain wolf]

like, just getting lucky and having an enemy heli pilot also be crap isn't really a good method of practicing

[slim quiver]

another vehicle to farm infantry with bomb drops

[loud flower]

I wouldn't know, 42 is my first BF

[jolly sail]

and I think 1-2 helis and 2 jets is good not 1 in total as is

[loud flower]

Eh, I guess

[slim quiver]

the fact that 1 helicopter can still make a huge impactful presence out of 128 people is insane

[boreal widget]

ok ngl, this new map is pretty legit

[rain wolf]

if one vehicle wasn't able to make an impactful presence it wouldn't be a battlefield game

[jolly sail]

nah we practiced om unranked servers back in the day, hell regular servers too and it was normal to get distroyed by someone better, but what makes you think everyone should have equal impact and kills with different skill, practice and experience

[slim quiver]

every game pilots and people sitting in aircraft are sitting at the tops of the boards. Doesn't look like they experience 1/4th of the struggle infantry has to deal with to get close to the same kill count

[slim quiver]

the difference s risk vs reward

[jolly sail]

I think you don't get that vehicles kill each other which is less likely to happen with 1 air vehicle on eaxh side besides transport

[slim quiver]

vehicles are mostly busy farming. I rarely see air vehicles dueling other air vehicles or ground vehicles. it will mostly be jets but i dont see people in those as much

[jolly sail]

its so easy to deal with tho? grab a heli urself or an aa vehicle or aa gadgets like what are you on about, hell jet even

[jolly sail]

what?

[slim quiver]

Im definitely not using vehicles. I like to actually be in the thick of it when i play the game. I afk passenger seat sometimes in a helicopter so i can just farm assists while im away

[jolly sail]

its cuz you have one per side as I said

[slim quiver]

learning to play in OP vehicles, the risk is less vs the reward that you get

practicing as infantry is different than practicing in a vehicle

[jolly sail]

that was about heli v heli? its literally the same

[slim quiver]

vehicles notoriously net way more kills per game than infantry

they just a quicker and faster way of doing it with less risk

[jolly sail]

well I dont see why 1 inf should be as strong as 1 vehicle

then whats the point

[slim quiver]

the fact is it has nothing to do with 1 infantry being as strong as 1 vehicle

[jolly sail]

they already lowered the skill ceiling for all vehicles

[slim quiver]

but vehicles ripping apart 6-9 people at a time and then continuing to do it somewhere else is unreal

[jolly sail]

nah now your just pulling out of your ass

[rain wolf]

That's kinda always been the whole point of vehicles though

[slim quiver]

the maps (besides exposure) is already difficult enough to deal with vehicles because theyre all open maps. Like vehicle playgrounds

[jolly sail]

I don't disagree, the maps are ass for inf

[naive trellis]

Not really, that's what a MAV and a tunnel will get you.

[slim quiver]

yeah it really makes you think about vehicle mains and their skill level. They get out of a vehicle and they get stomped, theyre in a vehicle and they easily float to the top of the board. just because in the past vehicles have farmed infantry easy doesnt mean they always should

[jolly sail]

not much of a MAV guy but don't they catch 5 rpgs and that's it? or face a tank in said tunnel

[slim quiver]

2042 was 100% made for vehicle mains, they have the easiest time so far than anyone else

[naive trellis]

That is if through all the confusion and reviving you can throw an M5 at them.

[jolly sail]

I am all for skill based air combat which also means more occupation for them

[rain wolf]

That's like saying the best infantry players have no skill if they struggle to do anything in a vehicle. Sometimes players are just better at different things

[jolly sail]

hard disagree, esp if u look at bf3

[jolly sail]

idk seems balanced to me if enemy team gets a tank or something similar to fight the MAV

for what it is anway

[cunning breach]

battlefield 2042 is definitely not made for pilots

especially the little bird sweats (me)

[slim quiver]

BF3 had OP jets

[jolly sail]

ask a perkless atk heli gunner

[slate moat]

The new stealth chopper is the new little bird imo

[jolly sail]

nah viper was way better than jets

[slate moat]

Once u get flares and 30mm u are unstoppable

[cunning breach]

no the flight mechanics are way toi fucked

[slim quiver]

infantry players have easier time in vehicles than vehicle mains outside of them

[slate moat]

Stealth chopper is more agile than little bird in this game too lmao

[jolly sail]

but u get my point 2042 is not made for vehicle players

[slim quiver]

you literally just have more protection with more options and multiple roles to fill

[full charm]

Is there a meme chat. I have something that I wanna share.

[jolly sail]

that just sounds like butthurt

[slim quiver]

i believe it is with the way map design was done. It certainly wasnt made for infantry at all

[jolly sail]

okay maps is the only thing I can agree with here

[slim quiver]

and map design literally controls the flow of the game

[spice robin]

Is there is anyone playing breakthrough?

[jolly sail]

anyway gtg bye bye

[loud flower]

@naive trellis hi there
Question : do all the maps will get a rework one by one ?
Like, is exposure gonna get a rework eventually ?

[zealous horizon]

lol the <NOT SET> glitch is so dumb

[slim quiver]

but it isnt, the real reality is whenever vehicles arent really strong, vehicle mains are like on suicide watch crying that they cant do anything

[zealous horizon]

how did they even let that happen

[naive trellis]

Hello, I work on the engine, and I don't know how to answer your question.

[loud flower]

Oh alright

[tame cobalt]

👍

[slim quiver]

why would exposure need a rework

[jolly sail]

weird take u can't speak im general here imo

[tame cobalt]

Exposure is def not gonna get a rework, it's already good

Hourglass should be top priority

[slim quiver]

wdym?

[loud flower]

Well, a few more ziplines to climb up would be a nice things
Going down is easy, going back up is annoyingly long
We have enough maps that are just walking simulator 2022 without adding that to the mix

[jolly sail]

oh cool, any chance we can make Jets feel less floaty?

[loud flower]

It's good but everything is in the details

[tame cobalt]

Fair point

[slim quiver]

vehicle mains have always been the babies of BF. they're always the ones crying about not having the power they deserve a vehicle should have even when its strong

[tame cobalt]

Facts

[jolly sail]

there might be cases where its true but it won't go for every vehicle/inf player

[slim quiver]

if anything map size should be really reduced

[slim quiver]

nothing goes for everyone, since theres no absolutes

[naive trellis]

I won't touch jets with a 10 ft pole, I get killed enough by air vehicles as it is haha

[obsidian elk]

Chat, I have my AK modded to deal 57 damage, but sometimes it still takes 3 shots to kill even when the enemy doesn't have armor. What's the problem?

[zealous horizon]

imagine people reinstalling and wondering if the game is fixed now and seeing every button <NOT SET>

[obsidian elk]

Bruh how are you in almost every gaming server that I'm in...lol wtf, I've never seen this many mutual servers before

[arctic grove]

when will you devs enable anticheat on linux?

[naive trellis]

Reset your controls to default.

[zealous horizon]

dont wanna lose my fine tuned sensitivitg

[naive trellis]

I wouldn't know what your gripe is, since I work on the engine, not in the anticheat department.

[obsidian elk]

If you tuned them before then you can do it again. Don't come here and whine about your misfortune. Ultimately your options are either to fix your settings or to not play the game.

[arctic grove]

ah okay

[jolly sail]

I was just thinking about dogfights like back in bf3, perhaps you ever heard of FLABSLAB? that was the golden days for jets.... not much to do with farming infs as well

[naive trellis]

You can grab a screenshot, go default, redo them.

[slim quiver]

its only 4 of them lol

[loud flower]

The big maps are fine as is but it's true we cruelly lack of smaller maps
Like, idk, a research complex, but much less expanded than exposure
A whole bunch of building complexes I guess
Where loads of stuff is CQB
Big halls where we can drive the small vehicles (ATV and rover) but no tanks, no transports, just the night bird and attack helo and the bolte maybe

[slim quiver]

im a simple girl, i like video games

[pine roost]

Is there a reason why both bfv and 2042 now need TAA to be forced on? Is that something on the engine side? Since before V it was all optional

[obsidian elk]

Only 4?

Wait, how often do you see people with mutual servers?

I find it funny that that's a low number to you

You must be in a ton of servers

[cunning breach]

its justified if the flight mechanics are complete shit in this game

[slim quiver]

it is haha, im in over 150 servers

[obsidian elk]

damn girl

[cunning breach]

for example. gta v got better flight mechanics than bf2042 lol

[slim quiver]

i talk in about 3 servers

[untold breach]

does anyone here know a fix for the stuttering mouse input issues ?

[slim quiver]

only 1-2 of them i talk a lot in

[naive trellis]

2 different engines, 2 different gameplay loops

[slim quiver]

we will never have that because 128 players

[obsidian elk]

Better is subjective. Just because something is more realistic does not make it better. It's true that BF2042's flight model is insanely unrealistic but it's also insanely fun to play. Do you know how hard it would actually be to pull off the same maneuvers if the controls were more realistic?

[cunning breach]

how does flight mechanic fit in those

[slim quiver]

its not justified since theyve had decades of broken vehicles in their favor. time for them to suffer

[obsidian elk]

Does anyone wanna play rn

[fierce sail]

Lies, everyone knows GTA is actually a secret battlefield game with the same engine as the battlefield games

[cunning breach]

what do you mean. the bird literally got rockets. suffer?

[loud flower]

That's not a justification, 64p is available occasionally, they can make smaller map with smaller servers just fine, there is literally no impossibility in that

[strange widget]

i can speak for a lot of jet vets when we say that the jets in 2042 are just eh

[naive trellis]

Uh oh.

[cunning breach]

flight ≠ engine

[pine roost]

yes

[strange widget]

BF5 dogfights were way better

[cunning breach]

no. it was who gets on the six first

[naive trellis]

Oh but those two things do correlate

[strange widget]

you could still perform a switch or a stall bait

[obsidian elk]

I think we're arguing off of the wrong foundational basis here;

My point is that the only purpose of a game's flight model is to make sure aircraft are fun to fly.

Realism, physics, etc. are secondary to that tenet.

With that said, BF2042 still teeters towards the realistic side of the spectrum, just not by much.

Ultimately, just because a flight model isn't realistic doesn't mean it isn't enjoyable to play with

[cunning breach]

it isnt enjoyable the jets in the game

[obsidian elk]

That's subjective.

[cunning breach]

shut up with your subjective shit. i speak for the majority

[slim quiver]

but the main game is fit for 128 players, so yes it is a justification. the game is balanced and monitored for 128 player conquest, not 64 conq and BT

[strange widget]

i agree

[obsidian elk]

Even if the majority shares an opinion, that doesn't mean it is objective.

[cunning breach]

thars subjective

[strange widget]

lol

[naive trellis]

You wouldn't know if you're the majority, if you were truly subjective, now would you? Just saying.

[strange widget]

what jet players want are fun dogfights like there were in previous BF installments

[slim quiver]

well the nightbird isnt suffering. If jets suffer thats fine. point is you still have vehicle options that are broken.. hopefully theyre all nerfed into oblivion

[untold breach]

anyone know a fix for the mouse lag ingame ?

[cunning breach]

thats because im sure im the majority

[pine roost]

All they really need are fast turn rates and some kind of directional indicator on the hud, that would cancel out the floatiness somewhat that was still in fact present in V

[obsidian elk]

She's right^, even if there are side modes with 64 players, they won't make many maps to support smaller player numbers because the game is designed and balanced around large battlefields. Which is the way it should be.

If you want a more contained, tighter environment, play Insurgency Sandstorm.

[slim quiver]

they want to farm players again like in BF3

[naive trellis]

Yet you don't have exact data to prove it.

[cunning breach]

you could say that for anything in the world lol

[obsidian elk]

That's not logic, that's ego. You can't converse with your ego

[pine roost]

but i personally just can't fly without the roll camera toggle, that's a must that i'm willing to be patient to get

[naive trellis]

But we aren't discussing anything else in the world are we?

[cunning breach]

something something subjective

[strange widget]

fair enough but ask most jet players and they share the same opinion as we do

[slim quiver]

we didnt even get a exposure 24/7 breakthrough playlist. Every single special playlist has made us play conquest, its getting boring

[zealous horizon]

wtf is a g84 tgm

[cunning breach]

then your point doesnt stand out

[strange widget]

its the new TV missile

the new specialist has it as her kit

[slim quiver]

hope dice wont give into vehicle morons

[loud flower]

The maps were made for 128, doesn't mean the servers can't handle smaller lobbies
How do you think portal and the small custom games work then ??
Small 16v16 servers exist and they are just fine

[obsidian elk]

I think the Rush (bomb plant) mode that's in Portal right now is pretty fun, BF2042 is versatile enough of a game that it can actually support a tactical mode like that in a really enjoyable way.

But you're right that there's too much focus on Conquest. Main menu has 3 different Conquest playlists and then randomly Breakthrough, lol

[strange widget]

the vehicles are in a good place, we arent saying make them stronger, were saying make jets more fun to fly

[obsidian elk]

Can we stop calling it a TV missile? Every time it gets mentioned I just think of a rocket with an old CRT television strapped to the tip lmao

📺

[strange widget]

thats what its called

[grizzled whale]

so who actualy likes the television missile

[obsidian elk]

I didn't say it's not.

[loud flower]

If it was a concern, 64 conq and BT wouldn't have been available ever
Heck PS4 version is limited to 64, not 128

[slim quiver]

they exist but theyre not the focus of the game

[slim quiver]

when you say "make them fun to fly" that implies buffing them to make them easier, better, more maneuverable

[obsidian elk]

How would you make them more fun to fly? I think they're just fine as is, they feel satisfying to fly and turn and dive in, and it's also cool to watch them as a trooper.

It's also neat how all different types of aircraft have different internal statistics, like turn speed.

[strange widget]

lets also not forget to mention the SU is better than the F35 in every regard so dogfights are bassically one sided

[cunning breach]

• infantry player

[loud flower]

They're not the focus right now but it's perfectly doable to have smaller maps and lobbies, what kinda nonsense does it make that you can't use a 20L tank to store 1L, you can, it's perfectly possible

[cunning breach]

this guy has been nerding for a while now

[pine roost]

the jets just don't feel as responsive. Precision aiming is hard because of how the bullets take your momentum into consideration, and the jets take ages to align its movement to the direction you are facing. The portal jets actually feel better imo

[obsidian elk]

Watch any video of F35 gameplay and you'll see them beat SU's no problem.

It's true that the SU is better, but you can't just look at that fact and say that the game needs to be changed around that.

[strange widget]

yeah but as someone whos played jets a lot from BF3, BF2042 jets just feel lacking and just dont hit the spot when weve had so much better in the past

[slim quiver]

but nobody will take the time to do that

[pine roost]

but balancing out the turn rates and stats between jets is a must, no way should one simply turn better than the other

[slim quiver]

thats due to technical limitations

[obsidian elk]

But it's also not the optimal usage of the 20L tank either.

[strange widget]

portal jets are better

[naive trellis]

Last gen is limited to 64 due to its hardware.

[slim quiver]

yes because jets in BF3 were broken

[loud flower]

What do you mean ???? Why not ??? We're not gonna play the game with continent sized maps all the time, I bet we'll eventually see smaller maps

[strange widget]

were they though?

[loud flower]

But it's not impossible now is it ?

[slim quiver]

absolutely, jets in BF3 were literally OP

[strange widget]

i dissagree

[loud flower]

Yeah I'm aware of that but does that makes small maps/lobbies impossible ?

[obsidian elk]

That's not the point.

Making a tiny map for a small number of players is missing out on the main reason why people buy this game.

[cunning breach]

someone didnt utilize the jdam bombs in bf4

[slim quiver]

and then in BF4 the attack helicopters were broken. this is not mystery. People love it back when vehicles were literally unreal strong because thats the point at which they "felt the best"

[pine roost]

i've only flown jets in bf4 but they feel far more interesting to dogfight than this

[obsidian elk]

That doesn't mean they can't make smaller maps and smaller modes (they already have,) it just means it shouldn't be their primary focus, and rightfully so.

[strange widget]

JDAMs were great

[slim quiver]

i would be so happy for that to happen but i never think that will never happen

[loud flower]

By small map, I don't mean the 6v6 from CoD, I'm aware this game is played for the large scale but you have to admit this is too large right now

[slim quiver]

i literally never step in vehicles so infantry maps is what i hope for, but i dont see that happening