battlefield-2042

[calm junco]

At very least they could just transfer stuff from Portal. Im sure some of that stuff will be still in use by 2042

Like, I dont think anyone would complain if Su-35 and F-18 make appearance in 2042, but with new coat of paint

[pulsar junco]

bipods dont even work wtf

devs wyd

[night vessel]

to be honest this vehicle would be dope

[calm junco]

Did you deploy them?

[pulsar junco]

it isnt auto?

[night vessel]

he forgot to press X

[night vessel]

sadly it's not auto

[pulsar junco]

incredible

[night vessel]

u gotta press x to deploy them and it will automaticly deploy on surface

think of it as a flashlight

[pulsar junco]

its auto in bfv zzz

reverse tech

[calm junco]

Or laser sight, I think it on by default

Honestly surprised that laser sight still broken

[ripe hatch]

Is aim assist still wonky@in this game or can I turn it back@on ?

[white geyser]

I wouldn't recommend to use it against the wildcat tank

[soft swallow]

In the 1 Year Pass or in the Ultimate Pack there is the Premium Battlepass?

Or I have to bought it?

[young panther]

the gold and ultimate edition come with the year 1 pass so you get the premium battlepass for free

[slender gull]

Trying to use the first shotgun but it has two attachments that aren't unlocking that would be really nice to have.

[night vessel]

I mean the vehicle would be able to take a few hits other than the light no amoured plating on the LATV

Hovercraft made out of pocket less light armour xD

[arctic grove]

okay this is actually a really cool plausible cosmetic

[night vessel]

it's somewhat has a good armour at least

[vale gale]

theres an update is s1 out?

[arctic grove]

No it was just a hotfix

[vale gale]

ok

[arctic grove]

S1 doesn't come out for another day

[vale gale]

yeah very weird decision

[arctic grove]

more skins like that, and less like the faze red one for mastery

[night vessel]

or we could get something like a another MAV or the Battlefield hardline SWAT vehicle

[arctic grove]

Imma use Lis for the simple fact that I like how realistic they are being with the character

[soft swallow]

Ok, so if I bought the year 1 pass I have the premium, right?

[grizzled whale]

"Realistic" guess you dont notice the exo suit

[calm junco]

Def not MAV. At least for me, personally, the role of the mobile spawn point should be played by something akin to Bradley or, hell, russian Boomerang (if we gonna go by 2 factions) or BTR-80

[arctic grove]

We have those irl

[grizzled whale]

Not in the military

[arctic grove]

by 2042 it's not a stretch to assume that they will be used in combat

[grizzled whale]

Who says by 2042 everything else in the game isnt in use irl either

[arctic grove]

Yeah in the military, they are constantly being tested in military trials

[maiden obsidian]

I play on ps5 and the aim assist feels way better to me at least, it seems to work properly now

[calm junco]

Yeah, remember hearing. Wonder how not the most brightest future fixed battery issue

[arctic grove]

Well some of it already is, like the M5A3 (in game) or the MCX Spear (irl counterpart) just replaced the M16/M4 for the U.S. Military, same with the LCMG

[arctic grove]

Although they will most likely only be used for heavy equipment lifting or if you are wearing heavy armor and using a heavy weapon to boot

Or the AK-24 which is just a different coloured AK-12

Every gun has a real life counterpart except the ACR or whatever that bull pups name is

[arctic grove]

In fact in this regard the game is behind, because in the lore it says the M5A3 replaced the M4 in 2034

the specialist gadgets are where it gets future

[arctic grove]

The MCX hasn’t replaced the M4

It replaced the DMR

and now there’s 2 DMR per squad

[arctic grove]

It has replaced the normal infantry squad rifle

One gunner, two marksmen and two M4s

Search it up they changed the squad setup

MCX Spear is not a DMR, they wouldn't use it as a DMR

they would and do

The round is built to go up to 800m and the optic is purpose built for long range

If it was a DMR it wouldn't have even been in the trials that led to it getting adopted

It’s classified IMR

[upbeat sand]

what the hotfix do

[arctic grove]

idk they didn't drop patch notes

not DMR but it’s not replacing the M4

[arctic grove]

It probably will replace the M4 eventually

In 2034 haha

[tame cobalt]

The new server banner is kinda dope

[arctic grove]

Depends, for USMC probably just because they use the old shit

Not too implausible considering the US army’s budget is mainly for money laundering

[loud flower]

Right

[arctic grove]

either way fuck the M4, the MCX Spear is my new best friend

[loud flower]

In a ressource exhausted world ? Yeah sure

[arctic grove]

Nah 100% there’s be exosuits

the Russians won’t run out of metal for centuries at this rate

[arctic grove]

I mean, it doesn't actually take that much resources to make an exo suit, the issue with them right now is powering them

they’d definitely try to make one and already are

[grizzled whale]

Kinda looks like a thales famas

[calm junco]

Lis literally have exo-skeleton legs on her Legendary skin

[arctic grove]

like the gun powered rails? Or the specialist gadgets?

[arctic grove]

I mean yeah I'm just making a point

[calm junco]

Problem not metal, but batteries

[upbeat sand]

i swear if i see another zero hours spent playing joke im gonna jet ram

[arctic grove]

Worlds biggest lithium supplies found in Afghanistan in 2010

[loud flower]

Yes, must be a prototype or something but making it standard issue is not possible and has no tactical advantage in an actual fight
It's only useful to reduce fatigue on foot travel and increase carry weight

[arctic grove]

Trillions of tons literally

realistically by 2042 we will hopefully have portable nuclear reactors that can power exosuits

[arctic grove]

“It has no tactical advantages lists tactical advantages”

[arctic grove]

Definitely not, hahahaha

[arctic grove]

lol

[calm junco]

It's only useful to reduce fatigue on foot travel and increase carry weight
Which means, depends on the situation, bigger gun. Cmon, you really dont want someone with, lets say, minigun?

[arctic grove]

Nuclear tech hasn’t progressed at ALL in nearly forty years except in safety

[loud flower]

They are not tactical advantages, they are logistic/practical advantages

[arctic grove]

Those are tactical advantages too….

Running faster for longer, probably bulletproof

[arctic grove]

That's just straight up not true, the Navy has been developing smaller and more powerful nuclear reactors for decades, and I believe in England they just made a reactor that can burn hotter than the sun

Ever seen one prototype tested? No?

[calm junco]

Not really, there's a progress in regards to fast neutrons and breeders which can use nuclear waste as a fuel

[loud flower]

In a fight looking like a dump truck because you are able to carry 2 to 3 times your usual packing weight isn't gonna do you much good

[arctic grove]

But not in size or manufacture efficiency of reactors

[arctic grove]

Yes?

None of these would help make a nuclear reactor man-portable let alone plane-portable

[loud flower]

Faster, the increase speed is negligible at this hour, longer, eh, I guess

[calm junco]

They already outperform fossil and renewable, dont think there's need to make them even more powerful

[arctic grove]

Yeah it would if that carry weight is armour or rockets

There is no other power source that can defeat oil, there is no way nuclear power won't progress further than it has already

[arctic grove]

But they’re being phased out worldwide. Examples, Germany shut them all down in 2019, couple other countries got theirs shut down too

[loud flower]

We've extended life use of combustible from a few years to decades and are able to use expended fuel again once it's been treated

[arctic grove]

It’s a political issue because they need people to be dependent on certain nations

[arctic grove]

And that affects portability and size how?

[calm junco]

Also dont forget oil and fossil lobby

[arctic grove]

That lobby is the US army

the whole US dollar is propped up by oil sales

Okay this is getting political now

Billions, hundreds of it is dealt in US dollars from oil

Curious how they never mentioned that in game and miraculous “disasters” destroyed everything.

[calm junco]

Yeah, I agree with modus, lets change the subject before it gets ugly

[loud flower]

Mech legs yes, but a full on exoskeleton is gonna need extra power and it'll be taking the place of all other equipment, the minigun needs to be powered as well so unless you are strapped to a nuke (yes, in that order because I doubt the opposite will be true for quite some time) you can't make the barrels rotate up to speed so regular LMG it is and no need for an exoskeleton on that one

[arctic grove]

The US is ugly, but anyways I think they should add a middle eastern operator

Syrian or afghan PLEASE

[arctic grove]

What about battery packs)

[calm junco]

Ok, .50 call MG then

[arctic grove]

It'd be cool to see them add an operator from each major nation/continent, except maybe Antarctica

[civic grove]

are the servers down i cant connect

[arctic grove]

Battery and ammo pack on your exoskeleton shoulders

[loud flower]

Armor is just gonna slow you down which negates the point of running faster and more rockets when you're engaged in combat isn't gonna do you much good if you just look like a bigger target than usual

[calm junco]

Oh someone else, but it would make so much noise in media, mmmm beautiful

[young panther]

yes

[arctic grove]

I don’t know why they always add women, I wanted them to add a Conor McGregor type Irishman

[next onyx]

Are we talking about mechs?

[arctic grove]

Bruh

But oh well.

Specialist ability looks cool.,

[arctic grove]

Not true

Who cares what gender they are, also Lis isn't even Irish she's Polish lol

You seen US army soldiers backpacks? Shit loaded as HELL.

[upbeat sand]

seems like the hotfix has changed the easy anticheat image from the new specialist lis to just the zero hour logo

[arctic grove]

Red haired polish?

[loud flower]

No that's just Germany being stupid, look at all the good it did to them now that they're cut off from Russia
France is restarting their nuclear industry and expanding it furthermore
They also have one of the two three only fusion research center in the world

[next onyx]

Liz is cute.

[arctic grove]

Yeah her arm patch is Polish, says Gurom and everything

[next onyx]

Give headpats.

[arctic grove]

She is but damn I wanted to be able to change gender

[last swift]

And Irish is from the USA 😂

[arctic grove]

Never seen a red haired pole

[upbeat sand]

looks like anna kos from iron harvest (rts indie game)

[loud flower]

You said it hasn't progressed, I gave you an example of progression, too bad it doesn't suit your criteria

[arctic grove]

That is kinda funny actually

[calm junco]

Huh, she does

[next onyx]

She actually looks like Ash as well.

From Six siege.

[arctic grove]

No progression in the aforementioned category

[calm junco]

Does she also have broken head hitbox?

[next onyx]

LOL.

We'll see.

[arctic grove]

Hopefully BF6 lets you make your own character like so many people want

[upbeat sand]

pathfinder season 1 hitbox

[arctic grove]

Portability. If I said iPhones had barely progressed, and you brought up megapixels while I brought up price, then that’s going to be the same thing.

[foggy halo]

@calm juncoAre you Russian?

[loud flower]

Again, will be taking up massive amounts of space and weight, all known existing mechs are either gigantic or landlines to electricity or hydraulic generators

[calm junco]

Thats that written in my passport

[arctic grove]

I want to be able to have set characters where you can change the specialist to fit that character like BFV

[loud flower]

Just as heavy, you'll run out of ammo because you won't have the space for it or you'll run out of power because it weighs just as much

[arctic grove]

Yeah BFV character customization was really good, it was just tonally out of touch for the setting

[arctic grove]

Carry a small nuclear device on your vehicle

[loud flower]

It literally is a fact mate, not my fault you don't know about it

[calm junco]

This tbh

[arctic grove]

Man portable is improbable but nuclear vehicles are going to be a thing someday

[arctic grove]

Honestly yeah, but it was funny

[loud flower]

I said armor, not backpacks
Have you seen any US soldier running with one of those packs ?

[calm junco]

Plus I really doubt that personalized specialist can make more money in skins than 4 classes for all factions

[arctic grove]

I like the COD warzone style cosmetics, like a character unconnected to ability

[soft swallow]

I always used the elite so the customization of the characters practically never happened to me

[loud flower]

Don't care, I fulfilled the requirement, citing a progression in nuclear tech

[arctic grove]

They wear them during combat, no?

And armour would just be the equivalent of being like, Arnold size

[calm junco]

You know that else good? The Mil-Sim skins, the default. I swear if DICE did the same thing with 2042, introduced the base classes as "Defaults" nobody would complain

[arctic grove]

A lot of soldiers take PEDS and are that size

[loud flower]

So you're dependent of your vehicle which is mobile by itself which negates the need for an exoskeleton since the gun might as well be mounted on the vehicle itself

[hexed gate]

Who's brilliant idea was it to add a crossbow before they added more normal weapons

[arctic grove]

Exactly, it seems like a no brainer, if you let people make who they want, they will be even more inclined to buy cosmetics to fulfill their vision

[loud flower]

HELL NO, fighting with dozens of pounds of materials ? Are you crazy ???

[calm junco]

Good I was born and raised in another country, yeah?

[soft swallow]

Those cosmetics are very free, and there are all colors, everyone chooses the skin they want. It's a shame Warzone got ruined by bullshit like Pacific and now there's King Kong and Gozilla too

[foggy halo]

[arctic grove]

Terrible take. Can vehicles sweep buildings? Can vehicles duck for cover from incoming missile fire?

[arctic grove]

That shit was FUNNY. Doesn’t ruin the game.

[foggy halo]

@calm juncoremove russian from your nickname. you are a fake

[arctic grove]

They do though….

[loud flower]

Yes
Active protection system and thick hulls

[next onyx]

Those godzilla skins by the way were actually pretty cool.

[arctic grove]

I never played Warzone because I hate Battle royale and also the blizzard launcher, but I can at least appreciate how much content that game gets

Search it up, they always wear 20 pound packs full of shit like med supplies, food, and ammo / grenades

[hexed gate]

They aren't adding anime skins n shit are they?

[arctic grove]

In 2042? nah

[next onyx]

https://www.allmystery.de/i/tbeaa41_tumblr_mkfgxi1V5J1s5oxc0o1_1280.jpg

[white geyser]

No

[next onyx]

Mechs might be impractical.

[arctic grove]

Play plunder, it’s a permanent game mode where you spawn with your load out so it’s armored multiplayer on the BR map

[next onyx]

But they're badass.

[hexed gate]

Good

[arctic grove]

They’re pretty funny ngl

[next onyx]

We don't know that lol.

[arctic grove]

Do I have to own MW19 for it?

Nope, free with warzone

[hexed gate]

Not a battlefield thing to do tho

[white geyser]

If they do, I'm gonna hunt them down like animals

[soft swallow]

I didn't like it but if people actually liked it, it's obviously my problem

[arctic grove]

Hmmm, I might install and give it a try

It’s a game mode in the selection, always have been.

[hexed gate]

I feel the same way lmao

[loud flower]

The only thing they carry in fight is their armor plating, rifle, ammo and med supplies, everything else is in their camp
Even clandestine ops create a material cache by digging up a trench somewhere concealed to drop the ton of material they need for extended missions

[calm junco]

How about.... нет

[arctic grove]

I always preferred it over BR.

[arctic grove]

trolled

[hexed gate]

[arctic grove]

Good to know, I'll see if it's for me, I really want to give MW a chance because I love the animations and stuff

[hexed gate]

Regular MW multilayer is way more fun than warzone

[calm junco]

really wonder that temporayal found else

[arctic grove]

Huh? What? No. This is objectively false. Every soldier carries days worth of supplies on their back LONG DISTANCES. Like that famous seal talking about why women aren’t allowed to be seals, he said it was because they cannot carry hundreds of pounds for miles

[arctic grove]

Yeah but frankly I'm not going to buy a game on the blizzard launcher

[arctic grove]

It’s a good game.

[hexed gate]

Get it on Steam

[arctic grove]

It’s not good but it’s what we got so I just deal with it.

[arctic grove]

It's not on steam

[hexed gate]

Oh

[loud flower]

Listen, I'll leave you to believe that every soldier is a battle mule, I've got better things to do, I don't care anymore

[hexed gate]

Then don't get it at all lmao fuck the blizzard launcher

[calm junco]

There's a rumour that it comes to Steam

[arctic grove]

my thought process exactly

[arctic grove]

That’s objectively true. Read testimony or see videos from Afghanistan, or Syria. Everyone is packed. You can’t argue that they leave their shit at camp, cause they don’t.

[arctic grove]

Hopefully, if they do bring it to steam it will bring people like me back

[hexed gate]

Anyone been looking at that game called battlebit

[arctic grove]

I've played it a bit, it's alright

[hexed gate]

Hate to say it, but it's better than 2042

[austere furnace]

guys what is todays update

[uncut bay]

just some fixes, probably won't be anything noticeable

since it's just prep for s1

[austere furnace]

i actually think this update was great

[loud flower]

https://youtu.be/W0yY4DCShog
This backpack only contains ammo, medsupplies and other emergency stuff but does it looks like it weighs a ton ?
No it fckn doesn't
https://youtu.be/7XisSI5oh34
Same thing here
Their massive packages are left at the FAB because they don't need all that stuff

[austere furnace]

i can understrand blaming them because its too late

but i always say better late than never

[arctic grove]

idk honestly now 2042 is almost good imo, just needs more content

[austere furnace]

the game regained 2k players only on steam with just the patch. im pretty sure it will gain 2k more when the season drops..

[austere furnace]

it just takes some time. we must be solidal

if dice was late with the updates its because of us. spreading hate under every post will not motivate dice to fix the game... instead they did. if we were solidal, the updates came way before, im pretty sure

[night vessel]

mechs!

[arctic grove]

it's better late than never

[austere furnace]

yes sir

i have a lot of hope about this game

aside the fact i bought it 8 times

but i dont wanna give money to activision anymore

[arctic grove]

You mean EA?

[night vessel]

what if ranger had an upgrade to blade wolf ?

[austere furnace]

no i mean activision. i want to avoid buying the next cod

[arctic grove]

Ohhh lmao okay I misunderstood

[austere furnace]

because i love battlefield and the year i switched to cod from bfv it was so bad

[arctic grove]

I haven't bought a cod since BO2

[austere furnace]

because yeah cod is fun etc but battlefield is battlefield

[uncut bay]

the irony of not wanting to support activision and then turning around and buying battlefield 2042 lmao

[austere furnace]

mw2019 is a solid game and had a lot of fun.. but the activision technical support is utter shit

and activision didnt manage the game greatly. they destroyed both mw and warzone and i felt literally scammed

[arctic grove]

2042 can pull a BF4 I just don't know if DICE can or will do it

S1 Update has given me hope though, not on the content side of things, but on the overhaul side of things

[austere furnace]

at least dice doesnt sell cheats for their own game, they re not chauvinist rapists etc

[austere furnace]

me too, i love this new ui and ux

[uncut bay]

you're trading one pile of shit for another, comparing the two doesn't make it any better

[arctic grove]

Yeah the game goes kinda hard now in some modes ngl

[austere furnace]

i perfectly know

but thats my opinion

cod may be a great game, but it will never give me the same emotions that any bf gives

[arctic grove]

Beta sucked, release sucked, now it at least feels like I'm playing a BF game, an empty one, but a BF game, at least to me

[austere furnace]

yes sir

[knotty mountain]

All fun and stuff with this new update but my mouse is drifting like crazy, not even close to playable anyone knows a fix?

[calm junco]

Integration of MW and Cold war was a mistake

[austere furnace]

true. thats the point where i stopped playing intensively. having to update mw just to see cold war ads was so bad.. i even got suspended for cheating for two weeks LUl

[calm junco]

Well, we dont know yet about this

[arctic grove]

They clearly only want to maximize profits and care little about anything else, warzone was a fluke success tbh, most people thought it would fail before it came out

[low solar]

Modern warfare 2019 was the best cod I played since bo1 in my own opinion

[austere furnace]

warzone is just a joke and im glad activision stated

[austere furnace]

warzone succeded only because of the pandemic

it got release in a perfect timing

[calm junco]

Oh cmon, Warzone was quite decent BR

[arctic grove]

yeah idk I've always been a Black Ops/WAW person, I've never even bought a MW game

[austere furnace]

yes it is. but if there wasnt a pandemic, im pretty sure it had half the users.

[knotty mountain]

Battlefield can't even release a normal game ^

[austere furnace]

basically anyone i played warzone with was stuck at home with a ps4. very small of them still play wz

[arctic grove]

Nobody can at the moment, Halo is dead, Vanguard is dead, Battlefield is dead, everyone is dead

[white geyser]

Warzone, got godzilla vs kong from the movie license and you have no idea, how the players getting more point and where they're shooting the titans at

[knotty mountain]

true

[uncut bay]

the fact that it was also literally free may have helped lol

[austere furnace]

as if somebody else can

[calm junco]

No wonder why, firstly it was Cold War which fucked it up, then Vanguard

[arctic grove]

I heard Cold War at least had a good campaign right?

[austere furnace]

vanguard was the literal death of warzone

[austere furnace]

yes, but only because it feels like a totally different game. having another game engine indeed

[arctic grove]

Damn

[austere furnace]

i heard that cw campaign is based on iw8 engine, the multiplayer is instead an updated iw5

[knotty mountain]

Nope but nothing is as bad as 2042

[austere furnace]

i can safely name you 10 shit fps as bad as 2042

[arctic grove]

I'd say Halo and 2042 are about on par right now, both have good foundations but lack content

[austere furnace]

released previously but that didnt receive so much hate

[calm junco]

Not sure about 2042 foundation tbh

[knotty mountain]

Well maybe halo does, battlefield has been out for over 9 (!) months and we got 1 map and 1 gun. Not counting a crossbow as a real gun to play with tbf

[simple merlin]

Atleast I have a level in 2042 and can grind stuff without having to play every week

[calm junco]

The only fact that they decide experiment instead of just polish BFV makes you... question the decisions

[austere furnace]

i can understand blaming them for being late, but its also our fault.

i mean id rather have only 4 ARs like in 2042, instead of 10 identical ARs like bf4

[arctic grove]

Yeah because they have been working on overhauls like redoing all of the UI, lighting, animation, character models, vehicle models, sound, attachment system, maps, bugs, etc.

[knotty mountain]

Yes but like come on 9 months, after they had almost 3 years to make this game and also delayed it before release. Not even mentioning the communication message "We are ahead of schedule"

[uncut bay]

it's not even been out for 7 months lol

you people are smoking somethin else

[arctic grove]

S1 of BF2042 feels like a different game compared to launch, aside from the maps

[austere furnace]

its called marketing. and yeah, still our fault. bf4 got fixed in time because people were passionate.. and bf4 was even messier than 2042.

source: i was there.

[knotty mountain]

If you cancel btf 5 to focus on this game, how come there is a delay and 0 content. I mean I'd love this game to do good but it's too late for most of us

[austere furnace]

bfv is utter shit. it became good only because of 2042 being worse. bfv got stopped supporting in the right time. its battlefront 2 that got stopped for 2042

[arctic grove]

Because EA obviously pushed them to release a new game on a new version of their experimental engine way too early, 2042 made a ton of very big decisions for the franchise and they didn't have enough time to tune things accordingly

[uncut bay]

2042 wishes it could be half as good as bfv lmao

[night minnow]

New map for zero hour seems cool, good work 2042 dev team!

The new specilist fun as well

[austere furnace]

2042 was a big big bet. if it succeeded, people would only speak about 2042 all day all night

its comprehensible why ea pushed in developing this game, and still is

[knotty mountain]

Well we are still, but in a negative way

[arctic grove]

You can tell EA wanted them to get it done as fast as fucking possible because they literally put EVERYONE at EA on deck so they wouldn't have to delay

[austere furnace]

yeah, but dont worry, 2042 will become the greatest bf ever when the next one releases

now i go play, have a nice day yall

[green bridge]

what this small update for ?

[arctic grove]

I've noticed that's always what happens to some extent, I remember people back in the BF4 days saying that BF3 was better even after BF4 had been completely fixed up and had content

[austere furnace]

small backend fixes

[austere furnace]

ppl when bc2 dropped said "this is too cod-ish"

[green bridge]

anything noticable in game or nha

[arctic grove]

no

[green bridge]

nah*

[arctic grove]

Take care buddy, have a good game.

[uncut bay]

i will paypal you $50 if this is the case

[knotty mountain]

Yup didn't go well, still wondering how it took them from October last year till now to only add 1 map, 1 rifle and a fucking crossbow in 9 months. All the other things such as UI changes voice lines blablabla should've been made right the first time they did so.

[next onyx]

Game was rushed.

EA wanted that holiday money.

[arctic grove]

Okay yeah but all the shit I mentioned takes time and resources, that's why S1 is so dry, because they clearly spent a majority of the time getting the game in a proper polished condition

[next onyx]

It's no proper excuse but they had to focus on fixing the game.

[hidden sand]

Apparently the Portal weapons being moved to AoW isn't happening till Season 2, anyone else know about this?

[knotty mountain]

Yeah but how are the voice lines more important than performance / gameplay like how

[arctic grove]

That isn't all they did?

They basically completely overhauled the game lol

[calm junco]

Not really? In its core it still the same game, just with legacy features

[cunning vessel]

Just wanna say if any devs see this here, the content looks to be very high quality in the new update. Despite there being not much of it it’s a welcome step in the right direction!

[knotty mountain]

What is overhauled you tell me, performance is still shit, response time is still ass

[hidden sand]

Yeah calling it an overhaul is an exaggeration.

[shy latch]

yo, anyone knows what's the fix communicated on #direct-communication ?

[arctic grove]

It's the same game, but it feels like it should have felt when it came out, and that's the difference, they turned a shitty game into a mid game, and with content it will become a good game or maybe even a great one

[knotty mountain]

I see a overhaul as a complete new experience but it is still the same shit as before

[calm junco]

Completely overhauled would be if they introduced hard classes and fortification system (I swear, it alone could fix empty maps of 2042)

[calm junco]

I like your optimism, but cmon, lets be real

[cunning vessel]

You say this yet you know that they can’t do this for obvious reasons. Why ask?

[arctic grove]

Why would they spend all that time fixing all these little issues if they were just going to abandon the game

[cunning vessel]

The hard classes part

[knotty mountain]

I hoped so that they'd switch off from that specialist bullshit but they won't guess we gotta wait 4 years for a new sheit to come out

[vast surge]

Okay so the backend patch messed up everything again. Hat good hit reg and bam back to tha same ole shit as before

[hidden sand]

The gameplay hasn't really changed though, which is the biggest issue imo. That's just bug fixing and QoL improvements, not exactly an overhaul.

[arctic grove]

Anyone running 2042 on linux?

[cunning vessel]

Because THE DEVS CARE, 2042 isn’t loved by EA but most of the dev team clearly want this to work

[orchid lark]

If 2042 was released now it may or may not have been different there may be less content but the removal of so many issues and they could add a scoreboard (is it even out yet I remember the sneak peak twitter announcement like in February this year but idk if it has been released yet) add a server browser fixed animations hit boxes and more. But also like 8 months more isn’t to much time to fix the BIG ISSUES (oh boy there was a TON at release holy lord but still fun I must say) fixing everything would probably require a 2 year delay at least.

[calm junco]

Ah, I mean just restrict gadgets to classes which specialists already have (like Boris is an engineer and Casper recon)

[arctic grove]

Yeah that's my point, I really hope they can make a BF4 type turnaround, I'm a little mixed on if they will or won't accomplish that rn

[cunning vessel]

Or a no mans sky type turnaround where the game goes from being the biggest flop in gaming history to being insanely well respected at a passion project of DICE

[arctic grove]

Yeah but that's like a super optimistic outlook

[hidden sand]

That's kind of unnecessarily complicated, imo. Just put their gadgets into classes and make specialist cosmetic only.

[cunning vessel]

Hard classes meaning assault medic support recon, e.g. without specialists just isn’t possible though. EA want something to profit from

[orchid lark]

YES I love the developers for still trying though think if you were hired to revive a franchise with so many expectations with a difficult engine with half finished environments and minimum time they worked day and night to make things work and I am really amazed by their dedication I hope they don’t stop working on the game even after the criticism nothing is perfect but great things take time and with time I know this game will do amazingly

[calm junco]

BFV

[calm junco]

Or this

[arctic grove]

Yeah BFV did that

I like the idea of specialists but I like my classes more, why not have the best of both worlds

[calm junco]

I swear, do people forget how BFV customisation and monetisation worked or something?

[knotty mountain]

If they didn't have time and had to work all day and night why did they say this "EA says Battlefield 6 is "way ahead" of schedule and supports "more players than ever before""

[cunning vessel]

It amazes me how they see through most of the toxic shit they get online. It’s not even their fault they’re in this situation. EA pushed a holiday season release on something they told them wasn’t ready and they got what they expected. Yet the devs work hard to make sure this game is the game they first envisioned.

[arctic grove]

Yeah EA lied for money lol

The sky is also blue

[calm junco]

We can add a bit more if DICE bothered to actually implement Archetype systerm

[hidden sand]

That's what I want to tell DICE every time I load up this game. They literally had a better version of what they're trying to accomplish in the previous game.

[cunning vessel]

EA is literally known for screwing up DICE’s hard work. We saw it with BFV and Battlefront 2

[arctic grove]

Yeah I will admit it's pretty cool of them to still make changes like this even with the 24/7 "gib refund" and "abandon game now" comments

[orchid lark]

Yeah also we need more people like you 👏

[slim quiver]

you know guys, imagine what 2042 could have been like if they didnt spend time developing the game on older consoles

[knotty mountain]

Why don't they just make a battlefield 4 remake

[calm junco]

Yeah, like, for real, just take BFV, put it in modern setting and everyone will be happy
Especially me since I had no chance to play Pacific in BFV

[keen lake]

Or if they just had more time

[slim quiver]

because battlefield 4 was shit

[orchid lark]

I don’t think a bf game has even been remade/remastered

[arctic grove]

Because Battlefield 4 was just a remake of Battlefield 3

[slim quiver]

even with more time the core issues are there, massive open maps, specialists and blocked customization

[hidden sand]

It still would have been bad. Their game design philosophies wouldn't have had changed because of one less platform to work on.

[cunning vessel]

I wish this game had more funding so this update could release more content. The content we’re getting is great and looks awesome but there’s not enough resources for DICE to produce more of it quickly. I hope EA releases the potential here and gives enough resources for the team to bring this game back.

[calm junco]

They could remaster Bad Company 1 with release on PC (since original wasnt)

[slim quiver]

oh i know that the core issues are still there and it wouldnt have made it work. But more time would have meant at least its better optimized and better looking

[arctic grove]

They should remake Battlefield: Vietnam

[cunning vessel]

Or put it into portal.

[hidden sand]

I doubt it would have looked any better either. 2042 on PC looks worse than BFV on last gen.

[cunning vessel]

I feel they should work on a system to implement your own assets into battlefield portal so that a map maker can be used

[hidden sand]

How that is even possible is beyond me lol.

[arctic grove]

Honestly I like the idea of Portal but it seems like another pitfall for DICE, because now they have to make maps for the base game and Portal plus all of the individual game modes for the base game that change the layouts/flags

[unborn herald]

your pc issue

it actually looks decent

[calm junco]

I think it just lightning

[hidden sand]

No? I'm not just talking about my experience.

[arctic grove]

It's because of the new engine version and the switch to 128 players, and it doesn't looks worse than BFV on last gen, it looks about on par with BFV minus some attention to detail

[cunning vessel]

They should just outsource it and place it on steam or epic and something that’s like $10 and have a smaller separate team work on it. It shouldn’t be attached to 2042

[unborn herald]

Which is why I replied with your pc issue

[slim quiver]

okay this part is true, but theyd have more time spent working on the textures i feel since designing the game for older consoles is time consuming

[arctic grove]

Well they redid all the lighting in the recent patch and it actually looks good now

[cunning vessel]

I see peoples YouTube vids and their game looks great but mine looks awful for some reason

[unborn herald]

a separate studio is already working on it…

[orchid lark]

Yep I think now EA is like netflix only fund what is guaranteed a financial success which I get but look at us all here we can all say we want 2042 to shine if the game had no hope then why would we pointlessly say the same things over and over again I think EA should give some money and say to DICE “Do your thing if it works we will put more and more into it over time” and keep paying them of course but like overtime the better they do the more money will be funded

[arctic grove]

2042 has higher res textures than BFV in almost all circumstances though

[slim quiver]

god save me

[cunning vessel]

There isn’t a separate studio, otherwise portal content would be produced.

[thick shadow]

I kinda miss the legs over obstacle vault animation

[slim quiver]

not the models obviously

[limpid kindle]

virgin vs chad

[arctic grove]

The models are similar quality, it's the lighting and subsurface scattering that ruins it

[unborn herald]

Ripple effects? or whatever is it called

[arctic grove]

take a look now, the models look a lot better in the recent update

[cunning vessel]

I feel the textures look flat

[hidden sand]

I think a big part of why it looks bad though is the lack of photogrammetry. They likely couldn't make the trips they usually do for it because of covid, so in a lot of ways it's ended up looking similar to BF4 lol.

[calm junco]

Im pretty sure Portal being worked by Ripple Effect aka DICE LA

[slim quiver]

uhhh so the lighting is worse?

[hidden sand]

Disagree. The new update let's you zoom in on models and BFVs are significantly better.

[tribal dew]

Anyone notice a difference in the ttk, hit regs before and after this latest backend fix?

[arctic grove]

Back then yes, it's not now though, they did a lighting pass on all maps and scenes as well as doing touch ups on every character model

[cunning vessel]

Ripple effect is working on the unnecessary NEW battlefield game that doesn’t even need to be made since we have literally just got one that could do with more developers

[slim quiver]

if the models are similar quality, why do certain models look worse than others? Sundance and Angel look marginally better than other models

[calm junco]

Light and shadows play huge role in visuals, Id argue on pair with actual models and colour pallet

[slim quiver]

the lighting is the same though

[arctic grove]

Have you checked on the latest update?

[slim quiver]

but yet other models in the same game with the same lighting look better

[slim quiver]

Did they fix paik's model?

[hidden sand]

They do, but the actual quality of the models is low. The new update lets you see this easily.

[arctic grove]

Yes

[slim quiver]

Show me the difference

[arctic grove]

I can't send images, do it yourself

[slim quiver]

Oh okay, im betting they didnt change her model

[cunning vessel]

It’s just rendering issues that caused the memes. But paiks model is admittedly awful. However gun models and soldier models look slightly different due to bad lighting and a completely different engine.

[hidden sand]

I would send images but I left the server and lost my regular role 😔

[arctic grove]

I can take a pic and send it in dms rn

[slim quiver]

Okay so you're still proving my point though

[next onyx]

The changes haven't come in yet.

Colours actually look a bit better though.

[calm junco]

Weird. Although last update reset my settings to mid

[cunning vessel]

Don’t be an ass, I never disagreed with you.

[slim quiver]

Im not being an ass

i literally just said you are proving my point, i never said you disagreed with me

modus is talking out of his ass

[cunning vessel]

“Okay you’re still proving my point though.” 🤓

[slim quiver]

You're just taking it like im saying that in a bitchy way

[cunning vessel]

I wasn’t arguing

[slim quiver]

thats a you thing. I wasn't arguing with you at all

[cunning vessel]

It reads like that. Phrasing and sentencing goes a long way

[uncut bay]

that happens literally all the time, it's called pre-production

[slim quiver]

okay so she still stung by bees

[arctic grove]

They must've at least tweaked subsurface scattering then because the models look marginally better imo

[analog fractal]

Anything about portal guns being added so far?

[slim quiver]

Well all you can do is read, it would be different obviously if you heard me say it

[arctic grove]

That's just her facial structure lol

[unborn herald]

unnecessary? might be for you only, it’s such a great idea bringing back old content and remaster it

[slim quiver]

thats my original problem lmao

[hidden sand]

The texture work is either poor or the lighting is wack, because the playermodels look like plastic.

[slim quiver]

yeah pretty much

[arctic grove]

Okay so you have a problem with her subjective appearance and not her objective visual fidelity, got it

[slim quiver]

the model is still bad dont get me wrong

[coral veldt]

Russian ash

[slim quiver]

but the facial structure makes it worse lmao

[ripe hedge]

Its not but ok

[arctic grove]

BASED

[slim quiver]

Comparatively to sundance and angel? yes

[coral veldt]

Or wherever she's from

[slim quiver]

detail wise you have other models pushing way more focus it seems vs others. Which is fine, not all models can be the same in quality

[hidden sand]

In comparison to BFV yes nearly every model looks worse.

[slim quiver]

100%

[dapper berry]

Seems like you just want her to be a pretty asian according to your taste

[arctic grove]

^

[dapper berry]

Her model is fine

[slim quiver]

I'd like her to be normal at least, other models look good, don't see why she cant too

[next onyx]

I'm just glad Liz doesn't look shit.

[unborn herald]

normal?

[next onyx]

Plus Miki is Asian.

[arctic grove]

Yeah Lis' model is great

[fathom maple]

[unborn herald]

is this what society has become lmao

[slim quiver]

yes looking average, and not like her cheek bones are so defined it makes it look like her face was stung by bees

[arctic grove]

wait yeah wtf that's kinda shitty to say

[iron prairie]

hi

[slim quiver]

its not shitty at all lmao

[arctic grove]

bro can you not fathom that not everyone will look how you want them to?

[unborn herald]

^

[iron prairie]

looking player from asian

[slim quiver]

Its not a matter of "looking how I want them too" its a matter of just the model and design of the models face

[dapper berry]

I've seen people like that IRL, would you say they arent normal ?

[fathom maple]

the asian in bfv is a japanese, in bf2042 she's korean

[unborn herald]

so their facial structure must satisfy your needs?

[slim quiver]

Im aware

[arctic grove]

Yeah so you just reiterated what I said

You want her to look "normal" according to your preconceived notions of what a "normal" person should look like

[slim quiver]

you're trying to turn this into a "oh my god it needs to fit up to YOUR standards" in reality its just that the model looks way less detailed and proportionate face wise vs other models

[arctic grove]

If she was an alien or something I'd agree with you, but she's a human, and her face looks human

[slim quiver]

IRL vs video game

[coral veldt]

She's not real guys

[slim quiver]

congrats, they all look human

hold up watch this

[worn whale]

its just the shitty character deign in a whole "oh lets add a nose ring for this specialist people are gonna love it "

[slim quiver]

why not just scan the actual voice actresses face into the game

[arctic grove]

Because maybe they didn't think the VA fit the character they were trying to make?

[calm junco]

The only issue with specialist, for me personally, they dont really fit the grim setting DICE trying to make. Collapse of global trade? Global warming? Famine? WW3? Nah, everyone nicely shaved (except Boris) and well feed

[unborn herald]

well either way theyre reworking on specialists

[slim quiver]

Why wouldnt it fit the character theyre trying to make?

[uncut bay]

was waiting for the model pics, it's pretty wild how she looks almost nothing like the actress

[tidal badge]

Because paik got stung by bees, its a part of her lore

[coral veldt]

Lmao that don't look like her that model looks like a cabbage patch kid

[tribal dew]

That would be to hard and to expensive

[calm junco]

And except being Lis, from that I saw she looks pretty damn good (including her outfit, especially the outfit)

[arctic grove]

Many reasons, lore, concept art, setting, etc.

[naive trellis]

Wrong.

[worn whale]

no?

[slim quiver]

you really pulled that "that would be expensive" to one of the top earning companies

[uncut bay]

ah yes, this person's face will severely impact the lore, setting, and artwork of the game. Seriously that's a ridiculous take

[slim quiver]

fucking AA game designers do mo cap and facial copying

[worn whale]

its much easier to copy someone's face and put it into a game than to make a person that doesn't exist face

[arctic grove]

Nah people have been doing mocap/facial scanning for games since like 2010

[fathom maple]

the irl face is not convincing enough she can handle firearms adn safety

[tribal dew]

Legally they would have to pay the owner

[naive trellis]

You can pull mocap and face scanning on a fucking iPhone.

[slim quiver]

HAHAHA

[fathom maple]

hehe

[unborn herald]

not exactly copy it

[arctic grove]

[worn whale]

oh yeah and cod mw2 trailer got leaked and look at their faces, so high quality and not this #battlefield-2042 message

[slim quiver]

which they could do easily since AA do it to ACTRESSES

[unborn herald]

even cod didnt do it exactly

[uncut bay]

literally lol, scanning a 3d object isn't hard, we did it on my geo trip

[calm junco]

bruuh

[coral veldt]

What if the VA dosent want their likeness portrayed on 2042

[unborn herald]

for example compare mara character in game with irl

[tribal dew]

EA will not spend on that.

[uncut bay]

leaks already? Whew tempting but i wanna wait. Is it the whole thing?

[worn whale]

no some of it

[arctic grove]

What does cod MW2 have to do with BF

[slim quiver]

remember until dawn

[naive trellis]

Then you can make minimal changes to the face, and disclaim it. You'll be legally safe.

[uncut bay]

they won't spend the tiny fraction of money compared to the overall cost of production, yeah

[calm junco]

Thats just world premier, a teaser. And yes, the whole thing

[arctic grove]

Gee guys did you know that RDR2 had more visual complexity than BF2042 who woulda thunk?

[misty kiln]

cant even join my friend, just boots me out of the game in 2 minutes. what a fkn joke

[worn whale]

if you used some of your brain cells to read what we been talking about you'll find out

[naive trellis]

At this point you're just speculating

[dapper berry]

Or just choose another model, which they did

[uncut bay]

not even remotely comparable and you know that

[arctic grove]

Yeah saying one thing looks better than the other doesn't prove anything, also no need to be so rude

If you were comparing other BF games then it would make more sense

[slim quiver]

amazing how this works in gaming

[dapper berry]

But anyway this conversation is useless, if Boris is changing, then Paik most likely will as well

[unborn herald]

at the end of the day, dice got lazy making shortcuts

[patent path]

people complaining about Paik's appearance probably have never seen a real asian irl

[arctic grove]

Yeah that game had really good mocap/facial scanning

[slim quiver]

just incredible

[stone cradle]

They did do that originally for concept art pretty much

[fathom maple]

ikr

[arctic grove]

true ngl

[tribal dew]

Correct, they stated this in a conference call. And its a legal hassle that should it arise would make things very difficult.

[stone cradle]

Oh nvm you just showed it lol

[uncut bay]

yeah but it's odd that scanning the actress would literally be easier than not

[worn whale]

people keep bragging about how OG dice staff left and whatever so I brought up something that's recent and not in the past

[coral veldt]

Lmao what does kratos VA look like?

[slim quiver]

Im asian

[worn whale]

she looks like someone from resident evil lol

[slim quiver]

im literally Jp/Korean and im a girl

[unborn herald]

even cod didnt do it right

[stone cradle]

Look how they massacred Boris . He had real daddy energy in his concept art

[worn whale]

I love the art of it

[patent path]

lies

[naive trellis]

She's not lying.

[slim quiver]

Multiple people have seen my face on this server

so no nice try. Keep trying to assume

[arctic grove]

Well yeah I just don't see what bearing MW2 has on BF2042, at least regarding visuals, it's not like they use the same engine or something, I mean sure it might look better but I don't know what exactly that proves

[stone cradle]

I have a few in my class and they look just like her.

[tribal dew]

Whats a type 5 player?

[slim quiver]

I get to see asians every single day, every time i look in a mirror in fact

[patent path]

Same

[uncut bay]

aside from the rude assumption, is there anyone that hasn't seen an asian person irl? What the fuck lol

[slim quiver]

its a type of tank

[arctic grove]

Probably a lot of people that don't live in the west

[fathom maple]

donald trump maybe

[slim quiver]

some people id imagine live in areas where there are none

[dapper berry]

Basement dwellers, they are among us

[arctic grove]

or Asia

[slim quiver]

Tho i live in east coast and I see asians all the time

[coral veldt]

Trump literally went to north korea

[naive trellis]

A lot of them live in the building I also reside in.

I pretty much see asians daily, and Miki is right

[slim quiver]

Like tho how people just like to make assumptions based on what im saying about paik tho

[knotty mountain]

Just play BF4 bf2042 isn't worth your time

[dapper berry]

Bf4 is outdated

[fathom maple]

oh nvm i remembered Trump came to my country to meet Kim Jung hosted by the Prime Minister

[calm junco]

Ok, BF1

[arctic grove]

Is it worth my time if I'm having actual fun with it though?

[dapper berry]

BF1 gunplay sucks

[calm junco]

V?

[hidden sand]

I just wonder why the playermodels decreased so much from BFV to 2042, I'd even go as far to say BF1 does a better job.

[knotty mountain]

in that case yes, guess you are entertained easily

[dapper berry]

V is aight

[slim quiver]

yup thank you

[arctic grove]

new engine version, 128 players

[stone cradle]

I honestly find it funny how DICE said they'll make specialists more 'serious' and didn't just slap their concept art selves onto them and instead gave Mackay a beard and Boris a few cuts, DICE really is doing the lowest effort they can

[calm junco]

Then play it? Unless you banned like me or something

[dapper berry]

Nah i play 2042

[arctic grove]

massive maps

[slim quiver]

okay wait so didnt you say the models weren't better but it was the lighting, but now its 128 players and new engine?

[arctic grove]

Honestly it's pretty astounding the graphics are somewhat on par with V sometimes when you consider how much larger the scale is

[slim quiver]

which is it. did the graphics take a hit to fit in 128 players and hardware limitations

or was it the fact that the lighting is different

[hidden sand]

Engine wouldn't be related. I wouldn't be shocked if they can't optimize LoD properly though and had to cut corners.

[arctic grove]

combination of all 3 honestly

[tribal dew]

Thats my favorite tank

[stone cradle]

I feel like it's the lighting, at night, 2042 maps actually look very good

[slim quiver]

okay so then it really is the model detail

[fathom maple]

what broke the game is cross play with last gen consoles

[slim quiver]

if its all 3 at once, then my point is something you already agree with

[stone cradle]

The lighting makes everything look plastic

[slim quiver]

the quality of the models is not up to par with the past

[coral veldt]

Everything is plastic in the future

[naive trellis]

There is none

[arctic grove]

The model detail itself is alright though, I don't have an issue with the subjective appearance of the character, in terms of objective visual fidelity though, I think BFV is just slightly better

[slim quiver]

crossplay with older gen vs new gen too tbh

[slim quiver]

I have an issue with both, One would most likely fix the other

[hidden sand]

The night maps only look better because you can't tell how downgraded everything is lol.

[arctic grove]

Engine is kinda related though, that's why it runs like shit and is missing a lot of features from V like the particles that move around surfaces and stuff.

[coral veldt]

You can't cross play with last gen consoles

[slim quiver]

I have to wonder how you have so much information tho, have you worked with frostbite engine before?

you sound like you're speaking from experience working with the engine before

[hidden sand]

You can't actually say it's the engine causing performance issues, we don't know that. Not to mention, particles are done by artists, not the engine. The engine just let's you do more with them.

[arctic grove]

What else would be causing issues like that? They obviously didn't remove the ambient particles for optimization because 2042 has more particles in every other scenario, as for optimization, that's just obvious.

[slim quiver]

Oh okay so you don't actually know

[arctic grove]

At which point did I ever say "OH YEAH BTW IM A DICE DEV AND THIS IS 100% LEGIT I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT"

[slim quiver]

if you havent ever worked with the engine, or helped design the game at all, how would you directly know all the factors that come into making the game

[slim quiver]

you just are speaking like you know exactly what it is, so im wondering

if you don't want to come off as someone with experience, its best not to pretend like you know whats causing what

[copper rock]

O0o0o0 gottem

[slim quiver]

because in reality, you know about as much as us

[arctic grove]

I have helped design games, I even develop my own frameworks for Garry's Mod

[slim quiver]

does that use frostbite?

[copper rock]

Internet fights are the most pathetic

it's great

[coral veldt]

Lol don't say us

[slim quiver]

source engine is not comparable to frostbite

[hidden sand]

Okay but Frostbite is unrelated to that entirely. Not to mention, especially Garry's mod because it uses Lua.

[naive trellis]

Game design, gmod frameworks, and game engines are completely different things. Apples to oranges.

[arctic grove]

No but you just assumed that I had never worked on a game, which isn't true

[copper rock]

haha I know, she says us like we are on her side

[slim quiver]

you may have worked on a game

[uncut bay]

when the gmod dev tries to speak about frostbite

[slim quiver]

but that doesnt give you any experience with the engine in question

[limpid kindle]

They lowered the bird's texture quality to improve performances

[coral veldt]

Apples and oranges are both fruits

[naive trellis]

But do you know the planning and work that goes into engine iteration?

[arctic grove]

So why are you talking about my life like it's something that you know? You clearly don't know me

[copper rock]

Eeeeeee

[arctic grove]

Out gaslit, checkmate

[copper rock]

[coral veldt]

Dam

[slim quiver]

i know as much about you as you know about engine design in gaming

which is 0

[copper rock]

[hidden sand]

Frostbite is also called "notoriously difficult" by people who don't work with it, along with things like "move to UE5, it's better!" Like they know anything about engines lol

[copper rock]

[flat ivy]

frostbite is dice's own engine

lol the people there

[slim quiver]

the good thing is, i didn't pretend to know what im talking about because i made a game. If i make a flash game it doesnt make me a game designer. If I designed maps before in a map editor it doesn't make me a map designer. Designing frameworks in garrys mod doesn't make you knowledgeable in frostbite

[copper rock]

Anyone been to Chili's?

[coral veldt]

Yeah

[flat ivy]

im still a piece of garbage

[slim quiver]

so in reality, you know about as much as us

[copper rock]

That Chili

[coral veldt]

T.G.I is better

[copper rock]

Nah

[coral veldt]

Again with this us stuff

[oak fable]

Wow S1 looks decent, if this game got a map rotation and a server browser it would be a bf worth playing

[hidden sand]

I think I'll pull my hair out the next time someone calls frostbite shit and they need to "move to ue5"

All because BioWare devs talked about how frostbite was only ever designed for BF and was great for what it was supposed to do, but did horribly with other types of games.

[flat ivy]

yea ikr, people just not happy bc they wanted more content

and for 8 months of work it is more than somewhat lacking in content

[coral veldt]

Bruh he left chill

[fathom maple]

frostbite engine looks amazing on NHL 22

[copper rock]

So Anyway

Season 1 tomorrow?

[flat ivy]

yea

[coral veldt]

Nope

[copper rock]

YAsssss Queen

[flat ivy]

? wdym it comes out tomorro w

[coral veldt]

The actual release

[calm junco]

Main issue was devkit or, rather, the lack of it so much of the tools needed to be made from scratch. Plus EA's internal department which handles Frostbite was, mostly, preoccupied with DICE

[slim quiver]

it obviously doesnt work for everything

[oak fable]

Honestly it’s a realistic amount of work for 8 months, most game devs spend about nine months or so working on an update but because there’s multiple groups we only see it as 3 months apart. My guess is dice took this time so all subsequent seasons would be 3 months apart

[copper rock]

K

[fierce gull]

Oh shit the new specialist tier 100 skin has an exoskeleton

[coral veldt]

How much dmg does lis' rocket do?

[flat ivy]

20

[hidden sand]

Yup. Which means it's the studios choosing to use it knowing it wasn't designed for their games that are to blame, not the engine.

[coral veldt]

Trash

[oak fable]

Well it depends on armour

[hidden sand]

But people insist that Frostbite is horrible and needs to be replaced lol.

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-watch-watching-tv-watching-movie-gif-22701583

[flat ivy]

one update in 8 months is kinda bruh

[fierce gull]

Shit can pretty much one shot helicopters

[flat ivy]

2 shot

[coral veldt]

He said 20 damage

[fierce gull]

Then the trailer is fucking lying

[coral veldt]

Ikr

[flat ivy]

takes 3 or 4 rounds to kill a tank

[dapper berry]

One update ?

[oak fable]

Yeh but every other month is gonna be 3 months (I hope)

[flat ivy]

2 for aerial and transports

[fierce gull]

It showed helicopters getting one shot by her rocket

[coral veldt]

Does it have infinite flight time?

[flat ivy]

bc its a cinematic trailer

[slim quiver]

it doesnt but it shouldnt be used for everything

[flat ivy]

lol no it doesnt

[uncut bay]

trailer + the preview shows the helicopter on low health. Though i would hope it does high damage

[oak fable]

Same thing happened with Sundance reveal trailer and her grenades

[flat ivy]

yea ikr

[slim quiver]

the trailer triggered me so hard

[fierce gull]

This launcher is weak af
I can one shot a norma ass heli with the normal launcher

[coral veldt]

Who's trying to play til launch?

[oak fable]

But y did they add and assault specialist when the support and engineer classes and lacking

[torpid shuttle]

Well... I need to play multiplayer only to finish each task right?
My zone is ghost town... it's impossible to do so...

[flat ivy]

normal launcher aint tv missile

[slim quiver]

it literally hurt my brain when they said "seismic activity caused a landslide that exposed the interior!" I was like "oh my freaking god no

[dapper berry]

Shes an engineer

[calm junco]

Lis defensive tho

[next onyx]

Engineer has always used the tecchy stuff.

[hidden sand]

Well I would assumed they've made it more accessible to the types of games other studios under EA are trying to make, It's been a while since the BioWare stuff happened.

But still yeah it doesn't

[oak fable]

Well that’s dumb

[next onyx]

Liz crosses the Grey area between an assault and an engineer.

[fierce gull]

If you aim good
You are the tv missile

[oak fable]

Y did they give an engineer and offensive gadget

[next onyx]

Would be cool if her icon reflected that.

[coral veldt]

So we get another support next right

[flat ivy]

factual

[next onyx]

Honestly we'll see.

[oak fable]

Likely

[next onyx]

That reminds me o an AKA art video where this hacker was crashing into peoples helicopters.

[oak fable]

But no way to know for sure

[coral veldt]

I hope so I'm tired of how it's working out sometimes

[lucid goblet]

She's a badass

[slim quiver]

i wish 2042 wasnt based around natural disasters because it tries to make natural disasters some grand thing and its just completely abysmal

[oak fable]

Is it possible to c her skins?

[coral veldt]

What's the deal with the AS VAL being a dmr?

[flat ivy]

ikr

[hidden sand]

It'll be difficult to use the new attack helis because of them restricting the amount to 1 per map. DICE and their inability to actually balance things is making me this 👌 close to never opening the game again lol.

[coral veldt]

Who tf asked for a crossbow

[lucid goblet]

i could but i wont spoil them for people, you'd be able to see them tomorrow or find them floating around on social media/reddit 🙂

[flat ivy]

exactly but eh

[slim quiver]

Everytime I look at this my brain is hurt

[dapper berry]

The VSS can be used as a DMR irl

[coral veldt]

It's just rocks

[slim quiver]

its not just rocks

[coral veldt]

Cool beans

[oak fable]

I personally don’t mind it but it seems to be a better vehicle killer than the sniper which it’s entire purpose is AV

[slim quiver]

the geomorphology of this map makes 0 sense

[dapper berry]

They're minerals

[uncut bay]

fictional game honestly who cares atp

can't expect dice to give a shit about geology when they can hardly make the game itself

[flat ivy]

welp gtg for school

[slim quiver]

its most likely volcanic rock

[coral veldt]

Wish I had more secondaries to run around with tho if I have that

[oak fable]

If that gives you an answer

[slim quiver]

well when you base a game around natural disasters its good to get a sense of what scale a natural disaster operates at

[oak fable]

Agreed but oh well

[lucid goblet]

the new DMR is fecking glorious

[hidden sand]

I don't really think it matters if it makes sense but what makes you think so zzzy?

[coral veldt]

It does look thick

[wheat fog]

does anybody know of a detailed video showing all the currently available/default Lis skins + attachments for the new guns?

[coral veldt]

For it's size that is

[slim quiver]

I do geology work IRL, so i've been at sites that are past, recent landslides, avalanches and actual seismic abnormalities

[lucid goblet]

it's really nice and "handles" well too, full auto with HP rounds 🔥

[next onyx]

High powered?

Ah.

[slim quiver]

believe me, none of them look anything like this

[next onyx]

It looks like it's pre loaded with subsonic.

[calm junco]

VSS IS a sniper configuration of the same platform

[next onyx]

And apparently you can actually turn it into the AS VAL from portal.

[low timber]

I wonder if that new DMR 5x scope is only for that gun and does it have glint.

[coral veldt]

Ok let's go

[slim quiver]

for one, you'd never build a facility in an area that is unstable in a seismic frequency as well as building a facility on a fucking fault line

[next onyx]

Yeah alright Jjok but no one wanted to know what you want torn.

[oak fable]

Does a video game where you run around with 3 other friends in a server of 100+ people going “pew pew” need to be scientifically accurate?

[slim quiver]

that rock is also extremely stable, there's very little lose sediment near that rock

[limpid kindle]

well at least it looks good

[slim quiver]

no but it helps the immersion for natural disasters to have some sense of plausibility

[low timber]

What kind of research facility is it?

[coral veldt]

It's a video game

[uncut bay]

most people do not know nor care about the realism of these natural disasters, doubt it's of any focus or interest to the average player

[calm junco]

Weapons, probably

[uncut bay]

feels like a pointless thing to be angry about

[slim quiver]

right and everyone here expects everything to be "authentic" and "military only theme" but its not okay if my immersion is controlled by actual believability of the atmosphere?

[coral veldt]

Lmao I want the anime skins

[slim quiver]

so do i

[coral veldt]

Yo bring that back

[hidden sand]

I can understand the complaint knowing you work closely with these types of events tbh, weapon historians do the same thing

[slim quiver]

still obviously it shouldnt be strange to people that if I work in the field where my criticism is in question, theres a reason why i have a criticism of it

i see landslides literally all the time

[lucid goblet]

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/the-world-of-battlefield-2042/steadfast-reckoning some [REDACTED] lore for Lis 👀

[slim quiver]

i've done research on fault scarps, thrust faults, volcanoes

[uncut bay]

it is pretty strange that it matters this much in a video game which has consistently shown it doesn't care about scientific accuracy

[slim quiver]

Actual landslide damage

[uncut bay]

wouldn't really bother me if constellations were off in the night sky, or if a meteor didn't fall correctly, because it's irrelevant to the overall game

[slim quiver]

when landslides actually occur, the shockwave alone from the fault slipping the valley downward would literally cause a shockwave that would snap every tree within a few hundred feet like a match stick

[limpid kindle]

🤓

[coral veldt]

How was lancang dam in bf4 for you?

[slim quiver]

I never liked BF4

nor was i working in the field when that game came out

[coral veldt]

Bruh

[arctic grove]

Ngl this was a good education when I woke up sick lol

[slim quiver]

in a game series where people consistently moan about authenticity and accuracy, this shouldnt be strange

[night vessel]

found a slight longer seen on the camera

[hidden sand]

Lancang Dam isn't a landslide anyway, you're thinking of Lumphini Garden

[last swift]

I though the landslide was a Levolution event

[hidden sand]

I think it's pretty clear we're not getting anymore events like that tbh

[lucid goblet]

not seen that before

[coral veldt]

What battlefield is authentic? In any sense of the word?

[slim quiver]

ask the community, apparently its almost every BF game

because when BFV came out, authenticity became a huge issue

[timid latch]

Portal maps when

[last swift]

But the tornado is live 🤨

[limpid kindle]

The tornado doesn't affect terrain it only lifts objects and creates particles

[slim quiver]

the moment BFV launched everyone hopped on that "historical accuracy" and "authenticity" of ww2

can't be having things in game that ruin the "immersion"

but we can have people launch tanks 300 ft in the air with a c4 to shoot a jet out of the sky

[hidden sand]

BF is authentic, it's not realistic. Only it's art direction follows any bit of realism. But that's part of what makes the series so great, imo.

[dapper berry]

Here we go again

[calm junco]

Btw, anyone though that Ka-520 having missile pods even with autocannon was actually a feature and not a bug? It just makes Ka looks much cooler, like, heavily armed

[slim quiver]

even authenticity though I would argue is not there

[dapper berry]

You'll get your anime skins dw

[slim quiver]

like when people make an authentic shooter, theyre sticking to the items actually used at the time

which BF never actually does

[mental delta]

Didn't they delay MW2 trailer?

[uncut bay]

still set for 1700 utc last i heard

[mental delta]

I thought it would be today but it's tomorrow

[dapper berry]

Oh shit the cycle is out

[lunar berry]

I agree that they have great art direction. The visuals are amazing. If they could just get that along with good game mechanics without the bugs and lots of content. Everything would be good

[slim quiver]

its today

[mental delta]

I saw on youtube it was 9th of June

[slim quiver]

then its your time zone

[flat ivy]

i would say bf3,4,1 even bfbc alrhough i never played it

[hidden sand]

Authentic feeling can also be something people find believable and are willing to accept for the game. The Hellriegel was never used, but it doesnt stick out at all in the style BF1 had, for instance.

[uncut bay]

youtube adjusts for time zone

[slim quiver]

but thats not the definition of authentic

[next onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/981758115286511696/983252002748366929/unknown-9.png

I found this little piece on reddit.

[coral veldt]

You can respawn....in every BF you can respawn...realistic and authentic

[next onyx]

And it sums up what I like about battlefield.

It melds guns together to make its own little experience.

[torpid shuttle]

Cool

[slim quiver]

its not about feeling believable. the actual definition of authentic is something that cant be disputed by subjectivity

[hidden sand]

BFs immersive art direction has fooled a lot of people into thinking BF has realistic gameplay, too.

[rocky nexus]

could you give the pierced mode to 128 players please ????

[next onyx]

Prototype, Cancelled, discontinued, etc.

[slim quiver]

its objectively related to root origin, its a original item

[mental delta]

Which time zone it is for ?

[flat ivy]

most gunplay is accurate, no?

[hidden sand]

"Authentic feeling" Not genuine authenticity.

[slim quiver]

really? whats realistic about leaping out of a jet with a rocket? or watching a horse get hit with AA rounds

[uncut bay]

literally look it up, it'll adjust for you. That image is for UTC +1

[lone wren]

in bf1 the guns were meant to be not accurate excluding bolt actions

[slim quiver]

you said its authentic, not "authentic feeling"

[flat ivy]

only in battlefield moments

[hidden sand]

Here

[slim quiver]

people use the term when they make a statement that BF is "authentic"

[mental delta]

UTC+1 ?

[lone wren]

despite how annoying it is random bullets suit bf1

[slim quiver]

they do not say "the game feels authentic" they flat out say its authentic

[uncut bay]

that's the timezone, idk what to tell you

[mental delta]

Which timezone it is ?

[slim quiver]

which is why BFV should have never received authenticity criticism at all, because all other bf games have done the same amount of fake as before

[uncut bay]

??? i'm in the uk, does that help

[fringe bobcat]

Did I hear they are adding some of the portal favourites to the weapons list ?

For AOW

[calm junco]

They thinking about it

[mental delta]

Ho yes I almost have the same timezone as you I think

[hidden sand]

Every BF game has tried to make itself as believable as possible in its art direction which what I think you're missing. BFV did the same amount (Actually even more with the cosmetics), but it's execution was entirely different which is where the criticism stims from.

[coral veldt]

Its a video game it's supposed be interactive anything beyond that is subjective imo and bf is fun and can be immersive but it's a video game it's not real

[mental delta]

Idk why it says 9th of June on YouTube

[uncut bay]

like i said, you can go find the video on youtube and it'll say what time it's going to air for you

[slim quiver]

what was wrong with the execution?

[fierce gull]

The trailer was dumb

[mental delta]

I looked for it but didn't find it that's why I asked here

[coral veldt]

Just play enlisted

[flat ivy]

soooo muxh

[slim quiver]

Okay so we judge games based off of trailers?

[uncut bay]

bruh

[hidden sand]

Did I say it was wrong? I said it was different which is why people criticized.

[fierce gull]

That's how BF1 was a W

[slim quiver]

how did 2042 work out for people that said the trailer was amazing and finally "bf is back"

[lucid goblet]

portal weapons will be implemented into AOW at "some point" in S1

[flat ivy]

trailers are what reveal the game for first impressions

[slim quiver]

2042 surely made its first impression didnt it

[fierce gull]

No

[night vessel]

legit reminds me of cod mission opening seen

[flat ivy]

wdym now

[fierce gull]

2042 made a W and its a W

[slim quiver]

probably why we shouldnt base games off of trailers

[lone wren]

i am interested in using the crossbow

[lucid goblet]

i'm guessing it's fan made?

[slim quiver]

trailers dont represent the entire game

[grizzled whale]

same im gonna grind the crap out of that crossbow\

[flat ivy]

i might, it’s an optimized close range sniper so i might

[lucid goblet]

Explosive Bolts 🔥

[fierce gull]

People hated BFV cuz of the content and trailer

[coral veldt]

Bfv slaps

[fierce gull]

At launch

[slim quiver]

I loved BFV, didnt care for the trailer

[night vessel]

maybe https://youtu.be/LTN9M5tXXX8?t=199

[slim quiver]

i dont judge games based of trailers

i judge them by playing them

[coral veldt]

I do 2042 has a 10/10 from me rn

[fierce gull]

If mw2 does not have war crimes in it I'm not buying

[uncut bay]

if trailers contain gameplay it can be a starting point to judging a game

[hidden sand]

BFV took on a way more colorful, saturated and almost happier tone with it's style, and the cosmetics were not trying as hard to be believable. Which was a big shift from past games, and especially coming straight from BF1.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong (even if I don't like the direction it took until the pacific), but it's clear on why it was criticized imo.

[slim quiver]

why?

[lone wren]

just like the bf4 days

with the phantom bow

[fierce gull]

How else am I gonna have fun

[naive trellis]

Don't cut yourself on that edge.

[mental delta]

It's at 19 pm

[coral veldt]

Based

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-9864414

[uncut bay]

first game had a literal terrorist attack in central london and this is supposed to be even grittier and darker, i wouldn't worry about it

[fierce gull]

Hell yeah

[limpid kindle]

you didn't get to commit them tho

[flat ivy]

bf3 campaign

[fierce gull]

But I better be the one causing it

[mental delta]

You mean BF3 ?

[slim quiver]

idk was really happy about bfv, but yes the cosmetics were more wacky. tho in BF1 nobody was walking around with gold engraved guns either. sure its not as wacky, but its definitely out of place

[flat ivy]

no bc bf4 had ohantom now

[mental delta]

[coral veldt]

This is the darkest timeline the us is running out of oil.

[fierce gull]

Actually you pretty much caused the London attack in mw2019 so that's a W

[mental delta]

Yes but it wasn't as easy to play as the crossbow

[lone wren]

how do you know did you test

[hidden sand]

Idk the weapon cosmetics did a good job at being consistent with the style BF1 had imo, but that's entirely down to preference.

[coral veldt]

Don't forget that you shot your CO cuz the Russian man said so

[slim quiver]

cosmetics will always be out of place btw in games now. Because customization and MTX has grown into a huge part of multiplayer games

[mental delta]

Yes I played crossbow in BF3 and phantom bow in BF4 ?

[slim quiver]

any AAA game is going to use multiple themes

sticking to one theme would be absolutely dumb business wise

[lone wren]

the crossbow would be different in 2042 though

[mental delta]

I wasn't talking about 2042 ?

[slim quiver]

one theme= one preference customer. 5 themes= 5 separate customers that statistically have a chance of overlapping purchases

[lone wren]

ok then

[coral veldt]

Or the one preference customer complains about 4 different themes

[uncut bay]

which doesn't matter because they'll buy the game anyway lol

[lone wren]

hopefully when the devs warmed up to 2042 we should see more stuff in a new season

[uncut bay]

multiple themes and lots of mtx is the correct business choice

[slim quiver]

while the other 4 themes have buyers while one bitches

[hidden sand]

Imo if you can't create interesting and unique cosmetics that are consistent with your games style, and need to derail it to make anything, you lack creativity.

[coral veldt]

Right now as we speak dice still has my money

[loud flower]

I hope 42's preview mode will get an overhaul because it's terrible really

[loud flower]

*EA

[slim quiver]

creativity is impossible when a theme calls for realism and authenticity

[coral veldt]

Not me*

[uncut bay]

tbf doesn't even need to be a lot of mtx, the majority of mtx purchased are consumables to speed up progression, so you only need a handful realisitically. Though of course skins etc are just extra profit

[loud flower]

wdym

[slim quiver]

there is not creativity in real life, its about practicality

[hidden sand]

Meh this is pointless lol

[coral veldt]

I'm the one without my money

[slim quiver]

people in the military don't design things that are "cosmetically" portrayed for the purpose of looking cool or good

its all about the use it provides, what benefit it gives the person

[fierce gull]

Marines

[coral veldt]

Remember when you told that guy off for talking about things he didn't know about?

[loud flower]

Oh yeah I get it now
I mean, my point was, it's the editor getting the money and then paying the studio, so it's EA that gotta give you back your cash

[slim quiver]

its 100x easier to come up with a ton of creative ideas for themes centered around works of creative art, than using a realistic theme in a restrictive parameter

[slim quiver]

are you about to tell me the military decides on things based on cool factor and not practicality?

[undone shell]

hey guys, i returned. i havent played this game in months. is it playable now?

[grizzled whale]

its always been playable

[fierce gull]

Yes

[loud flower]

As a matter of fact, it actually is now
Enjoyable even

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/yarp-hot-fuzz-gif-12386003

[grizzled whale]

Ayo geek

[undone shell]

thats nice to hear, i will try it out later

[loud flower]

Barely, at least during the first three weeks

[grizzled whale]

Did you notice the 30mm buff yet?

[loud flower]

Sup

[fierce gull]

Wait

[lone wren]

i noticed

[fierce gull]

30mm got a buff?