battlefield-2042

[copper fulcrum]

WHAT'S MY PASSWORD

[celest oar]

I like bald Falck and then she got changed, not only her hairstyle but her face change a bit too, like wtf

[dapper berry]

something about his neck

[wide shore]

You know what annoys me most about MacKay?

[fiery shoal]

that we havent gotten a woody skin yet?

[wide shore]

The fact that almost all of his outfits have his name plastered across his chest. Idk why, but it just annoys me. Like, yes, I know it’s MacKay

Like, the cool skin we got, it’s a sweet skin. But the huge name tag looks so out of place. It kinda ruins it for me

[split rain]

Is there new weapons and map coming season 1?

[velvet sand]

MacKay is prone to temporary and unpredictable memory loss. This helps him remember who he is when an episode occurs. The future is a terrifying place, and all the specialists are struggling with the trauma's of a collapsing world and endless war, which takes a heavy toll on their mental health.

[velvet sand]

Yes, 1 new map apparently, no details on guns or other stuff yet. Prob in the next few weeks we'll get full details.

[radiant prism]

We know we’re getting new guns (as well as some portal guns, apparently). Temporyal datamined a few interesting ones, but nothing specific has been officially confirmed by DICE yet

[velvet sand]

ye portal maps/guns, but those aren't "new new", just "new" to AOW (and welcome, even if DICE shoulda done this months ago IMO). I'm curious what they're gonna pick though.

Give us 1942 weapons, cowards!

[radiant prism]

Yeah that’s what I meant lol.

I can’t remember specifically what Temporyal found, but I think there was an M45A1 or something in there?

As well as some new LMG that I can’t remember the name of

[fiery shoal]

i just want more guns in the hopes they bring locked loadouts..

[uncut bay]

anyone struggling with matchmaking?

[wide shore]

I just want a bunch of new LMGs

And if the AN94 isn’t on the list of portal weapons, I’m gonna be pissed

[velvet sand]

50% more LMG's in S1! (that means 1 new one for 3 total : |)

[radiant prism]

Here’s what Temporyal has found

[wide shore]

I’d love the XM8 family to come over too. But seeing as they are all failed prototypes from a decade ago, idk.

TTS looks just like the DXR without the spare magazine

Also, AM-17 looks cool. I really like those AK12 magazines

[low timber]

I’d love the XM8 family as well, and they are still in use by some forces. And I’d love the P90.

[shell ermine]

Why are tanks so weak in 2042?

[arctic grove]

That MGA looks beautiful

[deep sail]

I got hard just looking at it

[arctic grove]

[edgy oriole]

[deep sail]

I'm jk...I don't even have a Johnson

[celest oar]

at this point i'm gonna learn the controller way and drop mouse and keyboard, can't event drag down the crosshair

[grizzled whale]

they aint really

[fiery shoal]

this hurts my soul

[copper fulcrum]

I don't really have a problem with the mouse movement on my end

btw, I like this tweet that I randomly found
https://twitter.com/crt1031/status/1529808270747222016

[low timber]

Lol, on Caspian Border I killed a Wildcat that was ~660m away with the NTW-50

[copper fulcrum]

It sounds like he just fucking sat there and took it

[shell ermine]

They are extremely weak. 30MM cannons can damage them, there are lock on weapons everywhere, EMP nades, hacking, etc

[grizzled whale]

am i the only one that instantly discards peoples stats when they have shit like this?

[low timber]

Nope.

[grizzled whale]

doesnt mean tanks are weak, it means everything else is strong

[copper fulcrum]

The things that use 30mm can be taken down in two shots while those 30mm take like a whole fucking minute to take down a tank

[grizzled whale]

that guy is above me on a lot of things on the leaderboard for my country, but i just disregard him entirely

[copper fulcrum]

If by some fucking miracle does a 30mm take down a tank, that's user error, sorry.

They also made it so that EMPs affects C5

[shell ermine]

Its a combination of factors. There are too many ways to take out armor

At least in BFV you had to get right up a tank's ass for the strongest stuff

[copper fulcrum]

Same thing with 2042

[shell ermine]

Not with AGM and helos

[fiery shoal]

just gotta recognize the "league" they are playing it at that point

[grizzled whale]

#1 time played
#4 matches won
#1 kills
#1 melee kills
#1 vehicles destroyed
#2 multikills
#3 kills/match
#3 win%

[copper fulcrum]

Helos are pretty easy to deal with, point, aim, bang.

[grizzled whale]

of my country, pretty happy with that

[grizzled whale]

the little skill infantry farming league?

[copper fulcrum]

Staghound in BFV was a good Anti-Air Tank

[dapper river]

dunno, there could always be some ahead of you that opted out of sharing usage data ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grizzled whale]

as far as we know they dont exist

[copper fulcrum]

People don't exist

Life is a lie

[next onyx]

XM8 LMG would be cool to bring in some life to the LMG category.

[copper fulcrum]

Wait so, do you use inverted aim on a controller or a mouse?

[fiery shoal]

basically

[narrow sorrel]

How is bf2042 on ps4 is it better than the beta ?

[grizzled whale]

its a game that runs poorly on pc, dont expect much of it on an outdated last gen console

[narrow sorrel]

So its not worth getting it for 30€?

[grizzled whale]

on last gen probably not

[velvet sand]

I'm still saying "wait until the show what's in S1", there will be plenty of deep sales

[narrow sorrel]

I hope they will fix it so i can buy it

[dapper river]

yeah there has to be a showcase in june or whatever. isn't EA Play Live happening then? if I had to guess season 1 is gonna launch during that livestream

if not, they're at least gonna go in depth with the details

[velvet sand]

IIRC they canned it this year, no summer event for them. So we'll likely get a blog post and/or video abut S1 in the next few weeks.

[grizzled whale]

dont expect them to do much in terms of performance on last gen, its just the console being outdated, not the game

[dapper river]

oh RIP, I thought it was the main "E3" that was cancelled but other companies are still hosting streams

[karmic cobalt]

Eh not really tho, they released a last gen version so It’s not unreasonable to expect it to work half decent

[velvet sand]

No, it's the game. If you release a game on a console it should perform well on it, period. If you can't make that work, don't release a game on the "old" hardware. But they wanted those sales from last-gen's install base, so it's on DICE to deliver good performance.

[narrow sorrel]

Its not that outdated ps4 pro still packs a punch

[velvet sand]

E3 is canceled, but EA canceled their event as well since it's unlikely they have much in the way of big new reveals.

[dapper river]

Me remembering BF3/4's releases on gen 7:

(gen 3 internally at DICE for some reason)

[grizzled whale]

EA wanted the sales and made dice create a severely downscaled version to make it somewhat playable

not much more they can do, than what they have already done

[next onyx]

Both.

[velvet sand]

That's kinda a really lame cop-out answer that frees DICE of any responsibility to deliver a product with good performance.

[velvet sand]

You absolute maniac.

[grizzled whale]

its the truth

[narrow sorrel]

I think bf2042 is downgrade of bfV so its not that hard on the ps4 I think

[grizzled whale]

yet even pc's more powerful than a ps5 struggle with 2042

[dapper river]

wasting development resources on last gen versions was pretty shit, but they couldn't not release for last gen market because many are still stuck on the older consoles due to supply shortages.

[opal lagoon]

who wants to go play with me bf3?

[grizzled whale]

yes, its a downgrade, but its still a lot more demanding than BFv

[next onyx]

I only got into it because my sisters boyfriend left invert on when he brought the Xbox over and that set in motion of events on where I am today.

[fiery shoal]

what is your bar for good performance? is 30 fps good enough?

[dapper river]

30fps was a common target on breakthrough 128

[edgy oriole]

I get why they made it available to last gen, but i wish they didnt. I feel like it was the biggest issue of wasted time/resources.

[velvet sand]

If that's the target, yes, a stable 30fps (with dynamic resolution scaling) is fine. But I've heard a lot of complaints from folks on last gen about bad performance since launch. (I don't know the actual target FPS of last-gen)

[narrow sorrel]

Yeah because they f*cked up in the development not because of the consoles or pc its from the game

[edgy moon]

is bf2042 good now?

[arctic grove]

Don't say anything bad about bf2042 or the mods will ban you @velvet sand @dapper river

[dapper river]

always was

[next onyx]

It's much better.

[velvet sand]

Tahnks for the concern, but we good, homie. Big bad scary mods aren't coming for us.

[arctic grove]

nope

[next onyx]

But if you want to wait, Wait until season 1.

[fiery shoal]

i mean.. people complain about pc performance when imo they are a bit misguided since they compare performance of 2042 to games like cod and theres clearly a scale difference

[grizzled whale]

so how do you expect an outdated console to perform well if even high powered PCs cant

[arctic grove]

W

[velvet sand]

PC is a whole other ball of wax that's unrelated to a discussion of last-gen performance.

[fiery shoal]

im saying that consumers really arent the ones to gauge performance since they seemingly dont know shit as a whole

[arctic grove]

They almost banned me because I said add femboys to bf2042

[narrow sorrel]

Im not saying anything bad i just want to try this baby on ps4 that’s why i ask how is it

[arctic grove]

Oh W , but it's still garbage to me , I rather download vanguard

[velvet sand]

Ok, so consumers are too dumb to gauge performance and just shouldn't complain about poor performance ro something? I'm not getting the argument here, though I was discussing on a more general, "If you release a game on console hardware you should make sure it runs well on that console hardware." argument which I don't think...anyone would disagree with?

[next onyx]

All we ask is that if you criticise the game you remain thorough with your points. "X is bad because...."

[velvet sand]

So go play Vanguard then and you don't have to worry about getting banned.

[narrow sorrel]

Bf4 was on ps3 and ps4 and I played both versions and I didn’t had any problems it had problems to like bf2042

[arctic grove]

You a W

[next onyx]

Vanguard actually kinda runs well, 110 to 120 on high.

But than again that's a completely different game.

[grizzled whale]

lol, BF4 ran like crap on ps3

[velvet sand]

I am old and don't understand internet speak as well as I used to, what is a W

[fiery shoal]

complain if performance is actually bad, but people are complaining they dont get the same fps as cod in 2042 despite obvious difference in scale/complexity. this really isnt a hard concept to grasp that there can be people complaining unjustifiably...

yes, if performance is objectively bad complain about it.. that doesnt mean a bunch of random saying is bad makes it the truth though

[next onyx]

Bf4 brought old gen to its fucking knees.

Retro, Old, Last, Present yeah that makes sense.

[arctic grove]

You are a genius

[velvet sand]

From the looks of it, it's targeting 60fps on last-gen like CoD does so yeah, expecting solid, largely locked 60fps (with dynamic resolution scaling to help) isn't unreasonable.

[narrow sorrel]

For you maybe but not for me

[next onyx]

Lucky.

[grizzled whale]

it did for everyone

[next onyx]

You must have gotten to used the frame rates then.

Cause again, Bf4 on old gen brought those consoles to their knees.

And they were at the end of the their life cycle.

[grizzled whale]

people still seem to think that "game looks worse so it should run better"

[fiery shoal]

and thats a miracle if it is targeting that considering the scale/complexity differences.. and dice shouldnt be docked for not matching simpler games performance...

[arctic grove]

Bf1 > bf2042

[next onyx]

You'd think that but it doesn't really mean good performance, Just the tech is too advanced.

[grizzled whale]

graphics arent the only thing that determines performance

[edgy moon]

bf4 was the peak of battlefield

[arctic grove]

Gameplay first

[next onyx]

Graphics require input from your GPU, Everything else is on that CPU.

[grizzled whale]

playercount and map size are just as tasking

[velvet sand]

Yes, they should. "Game is more complex" is a poor excuse. If it's that complex, don't release it on last-gen with a poor performance experience.

But if you want that last-gen money, put in the effort to deliver a good experience on the "outdated" hardware.

[next onyx]

Your graphics make up the skin and muscles, Processors actually process the models and everything.

[arctic grove]

Game is more complex is bullsh*t

[visual horizon]

i just wanna say, the footage of the map changes shows some really promising stuff; y'all might actually get me to reinstall it

[next onyx]

Yeah.

I'm liking the look of renewal.

[fiery shoal]

no they shouldnt... game is more complex isnt an excuse, its just naturally how it is... it is that complex thats why its not 128 players on last gen, and if they arent falling below 30 fps they did a "good enough" job

[next onyx]

And I will admit I'm growing a soft spot for renewal.

But that's because I primarily enjoy the combat round the checkpoint.

[grizzled whale]

you think EA cares?
They dont, and you are wrong for assuming otherwise

[dapper berry]

i've always liked the concept of it, "2 maps in one"

[visual horizon]

i always liked Renewal but like most maps it was just too open

[ember nimbus]

Renewal is probably getting the most significant map redesign of the ones we've seen

[velvet sand]

I view regularly having your game almost halve its framerate as not "good enough" personally, but I guess we have different expectations from a AAA company selling a full priced $60 game.

[arctic grove]

"let's add more dirt on specialist to make you like them more"

[copper fulcrum]

A Sundance can move across the map on Renewal very quickly

[grizzled whale]

did they fix the wall breach yet?

[next onyx]

Exactly. I just wish we got a Renewal 24/7 on portal, 2 rounds of breakthrough and 1 on conquest.

[ember nimbus]

Renewal is my least favorite map

[next onyx]

I shouldn't have to play an operator to deal with shit map design.

[copper fulcrum]

If a Sundance gets on the B Lighthouse, they can move to E Warehouses in about 30 seconds

[velvet sand]

Note: I don't play last-gen so I'm not even complaining, game runs like aces on my PC.

[fiery shoal]

imagine creating a 1:1 representation of the world and getting 30 fps, but then some neckbeard online says "but tetris gets 60 fps, 1:1 real life representation doesnt run good, complexity doesnt matter"

[visual horizon]

Kaleidiscope, (idk how to spell it), i think has the most striking changes; Renewal is more just cover

[copper fulcrum]

MINECRAFT RUNS AT 120 FPS MAN, NO EXCUSE

[velvet sand]

Man, you just can';t ever let go of your strawmen.

[next onyx]

Mackay is the prime example of an assist not a need.

[fiery shoal]

thats literally the comparison you are making though...

[next onyx]

Actually talking about minecraft, It's a bit more tankey nowadays.

[velvet sand]

Quote where I made the comparison then. Because I didn't.

[grizzled whale]

i really hate it when teammates just sit in the wallbreach on renewal and keep the enemy busy constantly contesting the point

[ember nimbus]

The entire green side of renewal is being reorganized

[next onyx]

Used to play that back on my laptop that could sorta run it.

[copper fulcrum]

What wall-breach?

[visual horizon]

also, i really like the new character models

[next onyx]

C objective is getting a change too.

In Kaleido.

[dapper berry]

the fact that the performance is abysmal on last gen is the exact reason why they added a free upgrade program to current gen

[visual horizon]

oh

[velvet sand]

Beardfield 2042

[next onyx]

I noticed that the big trees weren't there anymore.

So I'm going to assume they made some sort of checkpoint there or some shit.

[fiery shoal]

this is like you saying "i dont like cookies" and i say "edge said he hates cookies" and you say "i never said that, quote it" because you didnt say the exact words...

[next onyx]

But that's just a theory.

A game theory.

[copper fulcrum]

A GAME THEORY

[ember nimbus]

After the redesign, like 70% of the green side of renewal is just dead space

[grizzled whale]

in the big room on B1(?) with all the plants and stuff, theres a part of the wall all the way up to the ceiling where you can get trough as mackay, and just sit there contesting the point

[next onyx]

I SAID IT FIRST PISS OFF.

[copper fulcrum]

no I did

[velvet sand]

So that's' a big 'ol "no" and you're continuing to argue against strawmen of your own creation. Cool, cool cool cool, cool cool.

[wide violet]

[next onyx]

THANK YOU Skipper.

[dapper berry]

the mod said it better sorry

[next onyx]

My 300 ping finally did me well.

Or wherever the fuck this server is stationed in.

[fiery shoal]

"Yes, they should. "Game is more complex" is a poor excuse." this is you disregarding complexity in a game having an effect on performance, so i applied that same logic to the comment above. dont get mad im pointing out the obvious flaws in your weak argument

[copper fulcrum]

Fuck you, I am gonna use imgur for this one instance
https://imgur.com/oDqTtRH

[ember nimbus]

Epic embed fail

[dapper berry]

the plot thickens

[velvet sand]

sigh you're connecting huge unconnected dots here to try to engage in mental gymnastics to make thos nongument work.

[arctic grove]

[grizzled whale]

https://tenor.com/view/mayweather-for-you-throw-gif-8082067

just take it @copper fulcrum

[copper fulcrum]

You may have helped in the Coral Sea but you will lose this war

[velvet sand]

A big part of the "complexity" in 2042 is 128p, which last-gen does not allow for period.

[arctic grove]

Last gen will explode on 128

[fiery shoal]

im takin connected dots and exaggerating them to show that at some point its laughably bad to try to make the original statement in the first place

[copper fulcrum]

They also don't allow for the bigger layouts.

[grizzled whale]

what about map size, even though the play area is smaller, the game still renders the entire map

[full burrow]

they only thing complex is having to deal with poor performance and bug issues constantly

[copper fulcrum]

I imagine on last gen they use low-poly buildings/textures for the out of bounds areas

[velvet sand]

that's a part of it, yeah, though most of the "outside the play field" stuff is very bare-bones in terms of geometry and textures to save on performance.

[grizzled whale]

i saw a video where a dude on ps4 managed to not die out of bounds, and for example the stadium was fully worked out, even the sprinkler system worked

[fiery shoal]

theres a lot of aspects of 2042 that are more complex than a shooter like cod...

[next onyx]

That makes a bit of sense Skipper.

[arctic grove]

[velvet sand]

No shit, same goes for the whole BF franchise since it's not hitscan weapons and is doing things like calculating bullet travel time/drop etc. That's nothing new in 2042 or any BF title.

[next onyx]

Each game has different ways they've optimised whatever part.

[fiery shoal]

so how you think 2042 has to have the same performance as cod is really weird..

[next onyx]

Question, The processor processes buildings, Correct?

Graphics just handle the looks and the processor handles everything, Right?

[fiery shoal]

for pc? pretty sure the gpu renders everything, the cpu relays that information

[velvet sand]

Sigh, this wasn't my initial argument - which was a general "If you release a game on consoles it should run well on them." argument that I don't think anyone would disagree with. The only CoD mention was when I saw that last-gen targets 60fps, same as CoD. If DICE targeted 30fps that would be fine, but they set their target at 60 and failing to hit it is worth criticism.

[copper fulcrum]

CoD's maps are paintball arenas with no real high volume gun fights

[next onyx]

Hm.

That makes sense. I always thought hey graphics mean it handles the looks and everything else is tied to processor, Even a tiny ass portion of it.

[velvet sand]

My idiot understanding is more or less yes. Geometry and players and figuring out where projectiles are going = all CPU (which is also sending commands to GPU), rendering all the textures and particle effects and post-processing etc. = GPU

[fiery shoal]

so youd be happier if dice said they targeted 30 fps and gave 30 fps instead of trying to get 60 and not getting that consistently? idk that seems ass backwards to me

[velvet sand]

Which is why current-gen can handle 128p, it's finally got some decent speed on their CPU's (which they've historically underclocked on consoles)

[fiery shoal]

afaik the main things the cpu handles in a game is something like ai and feeding the computer frames from the gpu

[next onyx]

Yeah that makes sense.

[lost ocean]

meanwhile I play in ultrawide with 120 frames per second

[fiery shoal]

sadly not playing on a ultrawide doesnt change much because scaling is shit on 2042

[shell ermine]

COD hasn't been hitscan for years.

[fiery shoal]

i thought this as well, but wasnt certain since i dont play cod games

[mossy badge]

what fps games you play ?

[velvet sand]

Really? Huh, haven't played in forever so that's news to me.

[next onyx]

It hasn't been hitscan since black ops 4.

[fiery shoal]

just about anything except milsim kind of games, i guess i was into warzone and i know that wasnt hitscan, i just assumed it was bullet travel for a BR though

[mossy badge]

i play bf1, mw19, seige and hunt

[fiery shoal]

ayy another hunt player, fantastic game. currently im not gaming much actually, just busy with life, but in the past year ive played 2042, hunt, eft, overwatch, and siege afaik

[next onyx]

Marse, Question.

Xm8 or Xm8 LMG?

[low timber]

Lol, sniped more tanks with the NTW-50, those poor people who had no idea what was going on.

[fiery shoal]

who is marse?

[low timber]

Me

[next onyx]

It's the weird foking cat!

[mossy badge]

i played eft but because i cant recognise my own teammates and killed them my friends dont want to play eft with me sooo i dont play it, but i really like the game

[low timber]

Hard to say, with the lack of LMGs I’d say lmg but the AR is too good and iconic from Bad Company to pass up.

[next onyx]

To be honest.

If we could stick drum mags into the AR that'd be a great compromise.

[low timber]

Imagine them just adding one weapon, XM8 where you use the plus menu to make it AR, SMG or LMG

Because those three guns are just one receiver with a different stock, mag and the barrel/front.

[next onyx]

I would have loved a hard and soft attachment slot.

Hard attachments you can only change in the respawn / main menu and soft attachments like the muzzle, mag, grip and optic mid gun fight.

[copper fulcrum]

Box mag on the M5A3

Why not right? The AK can have a drum

[shell ermine]

It calculates bullets and drop (for snipers only) now

Its why imo MW19 and Vanguard are too of the best feeling FPSes out there.

After BFV of course.

[celest oar]

not just snipers any gun from MW2019 is projectile bullet

[shell ermine]

Right, but only snipers have drop

[mild crystal]

Guys can ps4 and ps5 play hazard zone together?

[velvet sand]

Man, hoping next week opens the communications floodgates with S1 info and DICE starting to engage finally.

[dapper berry]

next month does rhyme with soon

[arctic grove]

No

[velvet sand]

JUNE. SOON. BOOM. LOON. BAFFOON. PONTOON. SPATOON. CAMEROON.

S2 confirmed to take place in Cameroon, clearly.

[dapper berry]

however soon does not rhyme with platoon

[copper fulcrum]

Just a bigger party size or allowing us to join on full parties is all me and my platoon needs

[velvet sand]

It does rhyme with "Moon" though...S3 confirmed for THE MOON?

[mild crystal]

Damn :(

[arctic grove]

Last gen players can’t play with next gen players

[copper fulcrum]

They can, but Next Gen players will have to play on the Last Gen version which they can do if they have it installed

[hexed mango]

kinda a late response, but on that note, i like how this game has less options, and a bigger task for each, rather than 500 it’s 1200, so rather than being over populated with guns, you can see more variety (and i wouldn’t be opposed to more guns, but they have something going for them)

[next onyx]

Perfect.

[copper fulcrum]

another Angel emoji

[burnt swan]

ive started hitting 120+ fps on 2042 finally

[elder patrol]

I'm gonna spaghetti someone

[burnt swan]

someone put me onto a good ak24 setup

[dapper berry]

stock no attachments, 100% meta

[burnt swan]

been using factory barrel with light grip

[dapper berry]

if that fits you then go with it, metas aren't fun IMO

[rocky ether]

sundance at grenades are useless they take off like 5 hp from a 100hp vic

the cluster do more damage toa vic

[silk surge]

I wish DICE would stop taking feedback from dipshits. Instead of map reworks, they could've spent the time making new close quarter maps.

[burnt swan]

im trying the gun with no attachments rn besides extended mags

[dapper berry]

they're not teleguided C5 grenade, you can still get a rocket launcher with the grenades

[burnt swan]

why does it perform better without attachments.....

[dapper berry]

because trusty kalashnikov is good out of motherland factory, no need for western additions

[wide shore]

AK is big pog

I use the stubby grip and champion muzzle break on it

[silk surge]

Is the FNB event still going on?

[wide shore]

Usually I’d pick either a cobra or LWC. But I never know if I’m gonna stand still or move while shooting with the AK. So having overall stability is better imo

[arctic grove]

Is this emote from that one video of Angel singing on that app?

[shadow arch]

hello, Haven't texted in months now nor played bf2042

[arctic grove]

wait until s1 then play it again

[shadow arch]

I see that the scoreboard was actually added, which would hopefully try to silence the picky community that is battlefield

so picky

my god

[burnt swan]

i like that setup as well

warhawk with light grip is also good with the ak

[dapper berry]

the (remaining) community isn't picky, it's just that most channels have been invaded by people who feed on negativity

[burnt swan]

the portal weapons theyre adding to AOW will they have aow attachments?

[shadow arch]

if you are in afk in the game, your specialist would actually sneeze. search up a video and put it here in the discord server.

[dapper berry]

no info on that

[arctic grove]

Dice killed 128bt and HZ i dont think that counts as picky.

[shadow arch]

SHotguns in the other bf games actually felt like using a shotgun but in bf2042 before now was just bad, but now they actually made improvements to the mcs-880

Hell during the dramatic hype of 2042, Penguiz0 decided to make a video off of the drama.

[dapper berry]

a hard decision that just might make the game "feel more like battlefield" through map changes and gamemode design, hopefully

[arctic grove]

it already felt somewhat of a battlefield game. Plus part of battlefield is having all the random chaos in game. Not sure why dice used the excuse "not tactical" if battlefield was never a tactical game to begin with

oh and lets not forget that bad map designs is partly to blame why 128bt wasnt fun to some people. I personally enjoyed it.

[shadow arch]

oh and what if i told you that Battlefield is Older than Call of duty, you see, i did research and searched up the beginning games for both sagas, Call of duty started in 2003 with the game just being called Call of duty, while Battlefield started in 2002 with battlefield 1942

[next onyx]

They all followed up on that ww2 trend cause of medal of honour.

[dapper berry]

they specifically said that the impact of an individual player is lessened the more players there are simultaneously, which makes the gamemode inherently less tactical

[arctic grove]

Those games were well made tbh

When games were fun and not souless

[next onyx]

Having to deal with an increased volume isn't what I'd call fun.

[dapper berry]

i know i was there

[next onyx]

I used to watch my dad and mum play those games.

[dapper berry]

indeed, i understand why people liked 128p BT, but i agree with the sentiment that it wasn't tactical enough

[next onyx]

Grab the chair, run to the computer desk and dad would turn his speakers on.

[dapper berry]

my dad made the mistake of letting me play MoH:AA

[next onyx]

Yeah I thought hey 128p means more kills, yes? But the matches barely go down any slower and faster.

[dapper berry]

he unfortunately lost control of that computer

[next onyx]

Hahaha.

Airborne assault?

[dapper berry]

Allied Assault

came out in 2002 i think

[next onyx]

Oh right. I recently played that.

You can get it on game pass ultimate.

For pc.

[dapper berry]

best omaha beach scene IMO

[cedar turtle]

Skill issue

[next onyx]

It's aged but its definitely a lot of fun.

Bar do be a lot of fun though.

Fuck sniper Village.

That level is pure pain.

[arctic grove]

Depends I enjoyed it and some in the fanbase did. I understand its not everyone's cup of tea.

[next onyx]

If it weren't for the hitscanners if it weren't for the hitscanners I wouldn't be losing my mind. Aaaaaaaaaa.

[velvet sand]

huh, so apparently 4.1 included a ton of undocumented changes to weapons beyond the stated ones and the general comments about recoil being reduced.

[dapper berry]

it's been a long while since i played it, but i do seem to remember one specific rage inducing stealth mission

[next onyx]

Ohhh yeah.

[dapper berry]

oh god it really hasn't aged well

[shadow arch]

MoistCr1Tickal made a video about bf2042 back when bf2042 was still unfinished during december

[velvet sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inT19X0ZJ_c man, I don't get why DICE waits until the day before for patch notes but still makes a ton of undocumented weapons changes.

[dapper berry]

undocumented changes allow for genuine data collection

[velvet sand]

As opposed to...fake data collection? I mean, it's pretty lame to make some pretty meaningful changes to weapon damage/damage dropoff without a word.

[dapper berry]

nah, as opposed to people just not using the weapon that they deemed 'nerfed'

[velvet sand]

I mean, most of them are apparently buffs to weapon damage at close range or distance.

[dapper berry]

yeah i'm watching the video rn

[shadow arch]

oh and Penguinz0 actually played battlefield and made a moist meter video on it

[dapper berry]

cr1tikal is cringe

well that must be why they said all weapons would perform better accross the board in the patch notes

[velvet sand]

That's so incredibly vague given that the only way anyone found out about the changes to begin with was due to testing post-patch. It's just lame that we wait so long for patch notes but they're still consistently incomplete.

[dapper berry]

the k-30 is certainly an outlier, but i think this is a good change since most engagements are long range

[velvet sand]

But then that kinda defeats the purpose of SMG's, no? Being designed for better close-quarters performance? I mean I agree, but that's still more of an issue of how they've designed maps with engagements largely being at longer distances.

[shadow arch]

Here is the video link where he talks about 2042 being the worst disaster in gaming history (compared to cyberpunk) he made this back in april https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RAA_Ab1TdU This is the video he made of him playing it for the first time way back in october https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2XGPgYo7m

[dapper berry]

SMG's are still king in CQB in my experience, the k-30 even kills a bit too fast at medium range, but this blanket change made the AC-42 and the SFAR relevant again which is always good

[next onyx]

Honestly I'm just annoyed the vector can just so easily beam you.

Not horizontal shake makes it easy.

[shadow arch]

hey my ps4 is on too with bf2042 on it

[velvet sand]

AC-42 was always relevant IMO, even after nerfs it's remained stupidly strong for mid-long range fights.

[edgy oriole]

sadly it is a well made firearm.

[dapper berry]

it's realistic but yeah it doesn't make for good balance

[next onyx]

Hardline had a good way of balancing it. I think it's Min damage was 9 and it had a 25+1 round mag.

[dapper berry]

maybe give it downwards recoil just to exacerbate its recoil system

[shadow arch]

anybody gonna see this

[next onyx]

Literal peashooter in combo of the spread but monster up close.

[edgy oriole]

nah. i dont watch battlefield content

[next onyx]

In combo?

Oh yeah that makes sense.

[dapper berry]

this is just a popular youtuber that made a video on the current twitter trending topic at the time

[next onyx]

I've stopped watching moist critical, he was good in the past but now it's twitch react.

[dapper berry]

nothing interesting

[next onyx]

I liked his sausages video.

That was good.

[dapper berry]

exactly this, bring back pepsiman and shitty old games

[next onyx]

Some ordinary gamers is good since he has an actual personality.

[echo yew]

enders

[dapper berry]

the Saint Algorithm presented me some of his content which wasn't too bad, but it felt a bit reactionary too

[next onyx]

It sorta is but he does content based off what he likes.

I dunno, I just see him having a good laugh in it.

[dapper berry]

enders has some good content on youtube but he's a bit too whiny on his other channels

i got a bigfry vid recommended to me today... my god.

[next onyx]

I used to watch ravic but I lost interest.

[shadow arch]

at least things outside of the community and the game doesn't get worse (like if some random nsfw artist made some rule 34 art of sundance and paik, and posted it on reddit)

[dapper berry]

never heard of him

[next onyx]

Yeah best to not bring that up here.

But damn.

[arctic grove]

LMAO i wouldnt doubt it.

[next onyx]

[dapper berry]

that's very, very specific r34

[velvet sand]

I'm still shipping Angel and the Ranger. Love knows no boundaries with consenting adults and semi-sentient AI.

[next onyx]

Seriously guys let's not.

[edgy oriole]

[dapper berry]

[shadow arch]

sundance, paik (sometimes falck) are very easy victims for r34 art if u know wat i mean

[dapper berry]

i don't know sorry

[arctic grove]

Speaking of Paik i hope dice reworks her face like they did with mackay and boris. i fell in love with concept art Paik 😭

[echo yew]

who in the right mind would do that

[copper fulcrum]

I can't really say any words to add on to this that would be 'nice'

[arctic grove]

Why did they remove 124 player breakthrough it was so fun. . Theres barely any action anymore

[dapper berry]

her face is fine IMO, but it would be a good way to show they're "listening"

[copper fulcrum]

They gave several explanations in both video form and text form

[plucky pebble]

BEcUz It wAS MeAniNgFul

[arctic grove]

Ye but even tho the game is bad they can at least leave in the one mode that actially has a bit of action

Some maps didnt even get shrunk for 64

[arctic grove]

really her face is fine? her face looks swollen or like they gave her a botox but it was bad job done.

[velvet sand]

Plastic surgery, currently very common in South Korea, hasn't maintained the same standards post-global collapse.

[dapper berry]

it's just an uncommon face structure, but i've seen people with more protruding facial features

[plucky pebble]

Yeah looks kinda swollen like she ate some bee's

[edgy moon]

feetloaf

[velvet sand]

But we know there's still plastic surgeons because because Boris got a bit of a facelift along with his better beard, so maybe there's hope for Paik and the others to get a bit of cosmetic work done.

[arctic grove]

ok fair. ive seen it too actually.

[arctic grove]

boris got sexy with that glow up

[dapper berry]

future plastic surgeons are even able to do neck reductions, what a time to be alive !

[velvet sand]

Proof that we just need Beardfield 2042.

DICE, WHEN WILL WE GET OUR BEARD CHARM FOR ALL OUR GUNS?

[arctic grove]

beard = gritty. Get with the program fellas

[velvet sand]

WHEN WILL WE GET BEARD SKINS FOR OUR GUNS SO OUR GUNS CAN HAVE BEARDS TOO?!

[dapper berry]

don't we already have a mustache weapon charm ?

[arctic grove]

Ultimate Grit

[edgy oriole]

yeah we already got hipster mustache charm

[velvet sand]

Mustache =|= beard. Those are for police officers, cowboys, and 70's adult film stars.

[arctic grove]

and 70s rock bands

Doobie Brothers and ZZ Top got nice beards

[velvet sand]

Also I'm realizing now...technically aren't most of the specialists in 2042 zoomers based on their age?

[edgy oriole]

since the fighting is in 2042 they would prolly be born in the 10s whatever name the 10s are.

[cedar turtle]

Let's get social!!!

[hollow vault]

yall still play this game?

[iron socket]

Map update is seriously at the end of season 1?! On the third month? Are you kidding me?

[velvet sand]

They are not kidding you.

[iron socket]

What happened to fixing traversal times?!? They halved the vehicle count... and claimed performance increased? No it didnt.. There's just less vehicles going on and more running for me

When will my parachute work on the first press? When can I jump out of a condor on the first press?

[velvet sand]

Haven't played since 4.0, but probably not. Still gotta mash and pray it works or turn on the automatic deploy for chutes.

[slate meadow]

Did they need the k30? Seems like everybody used to run it and it killed me all the time now I'm using it it's like it does mondamsge atall

[arctic grove]

[slate meadow]

No damage*

[dapper berry]

ayooo finally

[iron socket]

Idk man... I be clapping with the K30 it's a monster....

[dapper berry]

these are probably linked to the cpu rendering time that makes every input feel delayed

[iron socket]

Are they actually releasing a battle pass? Before the map update? They want more money?

[dapper berry]

YEAH PITCHFORKS LET'S BE OUTRAGED !!!

[iron socket]

I'm not outraged... more like astonished

They have the audacity?... All i'm saying is they need to move the map update to drop with season 1 at the beginning or they're in for a dry summer

[dapper berry]

it's a business company, they have to follow up with their monetisation one wau or another

[iron socket]

They were already top 5 most sold game

[copper fulcrum]

You can already buy the battle pass since day 1 btw

[dapper berry]

the game in its current state is way more playable than 5 months ago

[copper fulcrum]

If you have Gold or Ultimate, you have the Battle Pass already bought

[iron socket]

Current state should have been release...

[dapper berry]

a new content drop will bring more players, and hopefully keep them

shoulda woulda coulda, at the end of the day we are where we are

[iron socket]

Unfortunately, I never believed at one point I would have to change the code for my controls just to fly nightbird again....

The hot fixes I'd have to do myself to play sometimes were funny. Everytime something glitches now I call it a "feature" from DICE

[plucky pebble]

Reviews speak for themselves

[dapper berry]

players also speak for themselves

[iron socket]

Don't forget we are the minority tho...

[dapper berry]

season 1 is gonna be make or break for the future of this game

[iron socket]

98% of players left

[dapper berry]

they delayed it as long as they could to fix some core issues

[iron socket]

If the maps are still the same you think players will return? There's no cover for infantry, fully loaded condor destroys infantry (very lame to have a fully loaded condor btw you're trash)

[plucky pebble]

Yeah if you see the numbers ooof

[jovial thistle]

is hoverfield 2042 playable yet? did they ever fix the FPS?

[plucky pebble]

If they could read they'll kill you

[dapper berry]

some players will return thanks to the portal maps being added to AOW that's for sure

[iron socket]

Frames are good now I won't lie, game is looking great they're doing lots of work to visual and performance for sure

[dapper berry]

if there is content to grind for: they will stay until S2

by then the game would have hopefully improved even more

[iron socket]

Portal people are an even smaller minority of the minorities this is a business like you said we're trying to bring the mainstream players

[dapper berry]

yes, and this is why they're adding the portal maps in the main gamemodes

they are good maps

[iron socket]

They are, but not balanced for the nature of Bf2042, im sure you've played its very unbalanced. Good maps tho very refreshing compared to 2042 maps

just needs a little work but those will be great

[dapper berry]

i didn't find them too unbalanced tbh, the only outliers were el alamein and maybe battle of the bulge

the rest played well, even up to 128p CQ albeit a bit too chaotic for my taste

the condor is a problem yeah, but i'm sure that'll get balanced soon

[iron socket]

no...128 flashback literally gave me PTSD

Way to chaotic to actually form team play or any individual performance

[dapper berry]

i agree, but as we've recently uncovered, some people are really fond of that chaos

they'll probably be 64p in AOW, and we might see a 128p playlist in portal

[arctic grove]

[silk surge]

THIS is what I'm going to show the next time someone claims I'm lying about the fact that I can easily find full servers.

[arctic grove]

[silk surge]

AI kills makes up 7,9% of my total amount of kills.

92,1% of my kills were actual players.

[slate meadow]

Just means you play at peak times

[fiery shoal]

or in a popular region

or a popular game mode

[edgy oriole]

I killed 101 since release on 128bt

[silk surge]

I'm in the North European region, Battlefield is extremely popular here. Especially in Germany and Sweden.

[last swift]

Günter's favorite game

[last swift]

xD

[silk surge]

But yeah, it's mostly my region. I can play with crossplay off and find full PORTAL servers.

What's funny is that my 2042 human KD and my BFV KD is almost completely identical

[velvet sand]

You're a man of consistency.

[silk surge]

More like man of not improving

[low timber]

Your ad history is… interesting…

[edgy oriole]

the stat trackers only tracked my pc stats and not my xbox stats for bfv. so idk my true bfv stats

[silk surge]

Noooo 😄 That's an official BFT sponsor, not from adsense

[low timber]

[fiery shoal]

i improved a little bit

granted i chalk that up to playing vs console players now

[velvet sand]

I'd show my KD but it's pretty bad last I remember checking, mostly because I play super aggressive medic and die a lot (an focus more on PTFO than juicing those kills)

[edgy oriole]

i wish i could see my bfv stats

[worn whale]

nice ad you got there

[fiery shoal]

thats why i use brave browser, built in ad block

[velvet sand]

Everyone all up here acting like they see different ads and we all know that ain't true.

[silk surge]

https://tenor.com/view/sweat-sweating-nervous-wet-sad-gif-5796001

[low timber]

I don’t see any ads
Got uBlock on my browser, AdGuard on my phone and Pi-Hole on our Wi-Fi.

[silk surge]

Damn, your human KD is only 0,03 lower?

[low timber]

Ok I see some ads, like the ones from YouTube mobile app

[fiery shoal]

infantry only, i use vehicles as spawn points

[low timber]

You can spawn on them and still aim?

[fiery shoal]

huh?

[silk surge]

I used to have adblock, but every website started giving me unclosable popups shaming me for using adblocker, so I didn't think it was worth it after a while.

[low timber]

The bug, they fixed on 4.0
It’s back for me in 4.1

[fiery shoal]

oh i havent touched 2042 in some 5 months

[slate meadow]

Because he likes to tell everybody else it's not as bad as people make out but then not play it himself 🤣

[low timber]

On 4.0 I only got the bug from the stationary tow launchers.
Now on 4.1 on almost any vehicle I get the bug where I can’t aim.

[velvet sand]

Man is it really back?...kinda glad I haven't played since 4.1 then because that was absolutely infuriating to spawn in a vehicle and then just basically need to die/redeploy : |

[low timber]

At least on the Portal side, haven’t really touched vehicles much on the AoW side.

[fiery shoal]

when people say its dog shit, 1/10, worst game ever, etc.. then yea... just because its not those outlandish claims doesnt mean its a good game either...

[velvet sand]

Getting FO76 flashbacks where they'd fix bugs and then, seemingly through bad version control, add the bugs back in repeatedly in later patches only to have to spend time repeatedly fixing those same bugs : |

[silk surge]

Have you tried turning aim assist on lel

[low timber]

After 4.1
And AoW doesn’t have stationary TOW launchers

[fiery shoal]

how people live their lives thinking the world is binary is beyond me...

[low timber]

In 4 months I have played FO76 for two years

[silk surge]

uhh... that's illegal.

[low timber]

Oh yeah, I’ve also noticed that jets AGM can lock on to the stationary AA gun on Caspian, on the US side at least, and when it gets hit it starts to float like a balloon.

Actually spooked me a bit when I got the lock on warning when I was in it

[slate meadow]

Why can a tank eat 3 RPG hits ?

[silk surge]

Anti-GV rockets can lock onto those stationary guns as well.

You can even SOFLAM them haha

[fiery shoal]

video game

[slate meadow]

Yeah but like considering how hard it is to get three direct hits solo it should be enough

[fiery shoal]

but 2042 has to consider more than a 1v1 scenario

[silk surge]

They kinda neutered Carl Gustav in 2042 because even medics can run around with them now.

[edgy oriole]

We do need an actual anti tank rpg. m5 sends kisses.

[cerulean rain]

hey has anyone run into an issue with a mastery unlock being bugged? as in it says i have 1427 kills and it wont count any new kills

[slate meadow]

Hourglass is a terrible map

[fiery solar]

looked cool before but playing it yourself is the worst

[low timber]

Well there is a chance that Dice adds some launchers from Portal, RPG-7/SMAW and Stinger/Igla already have their counterparts CG and FXM, but Javelin and M136 AT4 are unique enough for a possible port.

[fiery shoal]

hourglass > breakaway

everything > breakaway

[fiery solar]

if hourglass wasnt an open field with a few places for cover id play it

the play area shouldve been where all the skyscrapers were. not a bunch of hills

[low timber]

Of course there is a possibility that they’ll make the SMAW and RPG7 have different stats to the CG, just like in BF4 SMAW had lower damage but better velocity than the RPG7

[fiery shoal]

just stick to skyscrapers or stadium for infantry play

it sucks you kind of have to, but its still fun

[fiery solar]

they screwed up thinking people would like 128 players in a giant empty field with a few little hills and random containers

[shrewd summit]

Hello all. After the 4.1 update are the cringy after game animations still present?

[fiery solar]

whats wrong with breakaway

[gleaming hound]

asdw

[fiery solar]

angel does it again still canon

[tepid briar]

Which one is breakaway?

[fiery solar]

the ice one

[shrewd summit]

Good lord.

[fiery shoal]

at least for conquest its horribly imbalanced, and very open, infantry stuck to 2 spots

[fiery solar]

thats it? im ready for round 2

[arctic grove]

One thing that’s strange about Breakaway is the one remote satellite base thing that was in the 2042 trailer

Like it’s just…. so far from everything, lol

[shrewd summit]

I haven't had my second glass of bourbon yet.

[arctic grove]

I’ve noticed so many times no matter which side takes it neither really bothers to fight for it, either

[fiery solar]

what

ive also never seen a penguin near the play area in breakaway

[arctic grove]

That very remote white satellite with a helipad, I think it’s E2 on conquest, could be wrong

[fiery solar]

oh that

[uncut bay]

yeah

nobody goes there, like ever, it's such a useless area

[fiery solar]

theres always that 1 annoying guy that wants it when you want it

and then when he dies a whole squad goes to E1

[shrewd summit]

You and I have met before.

[fiery solar]

its every breakaway match

[shrewd summit]

I go there because I thought this game was an RPG, what with the specialists and all.

[fiery solar]

i just go there whenever i want a good view

[tepid briar]

I rarely even find a breakaway match

[fiery solar]

i used to go up with sundance and wingsuit across the map but i dont even use that specialist no more

[fiery solar]

there must be 2 matches in the whole game left whenever i play cause i only ever get breakaway and manifest

[velvet sand]

RNG gonna RNG. Seen lots of complaints in the forums about that (or playing the same role on breakthrough repeatedly) but it seems the response from DICE is more or less "bad luck, sorry"

Sauce for them saying "Bad RNG, too bad, nothing we can do" (which absolutely ain't true, but whatever) - https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Playing-on-defense-side/m-p/11519791/highlight/true#M107699

[tepid briar]

I would love to play some manifest again.

[shrewd summit]

With RNG you are guaranteed good luck or bad luck, but I think most people would settle for no luck.

[velvet sand]

Agreed, I think folks wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer to not get repeatedly placed on the same map, but I guess that technology doesn't exist or something ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[arctic grove]

Kaleidoscope 64BT literally had me as the defending team with no more than 2 light vehicle slots. The entire game

The chances of being a defender are way higher because so many people just leave when attackers steamroll them past every objective lol

[velvet sand]

Legit, when I was still playing I went around a month of playing a match a day on average, where I don't think I ever played attack on 128p breakthrough.

[arctic grove]

And there is a giant vehicle problem with that game mode for some reason, what am i and 31 other people going to do with 2 light vehicles when the attackers had 2 transports and a nightbird?

[dapper berry]

bring AA

[arctic grove]

In the last days before it was removed I just honestly stopped playing defending, I’d leave and re queue until I got attacking

[fiery solar]

wait real life humans actually got to play attack?

[arctic grove]

If you mean FXAA that’s going to work well to get the helis away, but there is absolutely no reason the defending team should only have 2 light vehicles

The entire game

When attackers already have 2 transports that are difficult enough to get to budge with any of the infantry anti-air weapons

[velvet sand]

ONCE UPON A TIME! It was fun to shake things up and change your role for a while.

[fiery solar]

even in beta i was always US i came to the conclusion Russian team was just npcs

[dapper berry]

yeah the situation is kinda dire, but i've won some games in the first sector when people coordinated a bit

[arctic grove]

True, especially now with smaller lobbies

[sturdy prism]

Whats the weekly reward?

[fiery solar]

for everyone complaining about VC ingame do people actually use it

[tepid briar]

My friend said he was insulted there when he first played the game and that's everything I have ever heard about the VC

[fiery shoal]

no, people just complained because its an expected feature and it turned into a meme to complain about

[velvet sand]

It was also something DICE said they were planning to add at launch pre-launch, before anyone even complained, and then said would be coming post-launch later. So it's not like it was never planned before players started complaining (even if they still don't use it lol)

[tepid briar]

Chat is toxic enough why would you want to go into vc

[velvet sand]

I've had a few good matches with squad VOIP, either actually trying to coordinate a bit or just chit chatting.

[fiery solar]

ive seen more nice conversations in chat lately

[tepid briar]

My whole chat is censored

[iron socket]

Why can't we talk to enemy team. VC should activate for everyone for 10 seconds at the end of game

[fiery solar]

usually just hating on the game together where i see censored words

[iron socket]

Sorry didn't mean to tag you buddy but 3 rpg hits is fair for a tank. 2 is too fast to destroy tank tbh

[fiery solar]

voice chat should be enabled for everyone at the end of a round

[iron socket]

Is it everyone? I don't think i've ever heard anybody not in my squad

[velvet sand]

Yeah, that'll just be a delight as folks blast the most obnoxious shit to troll the server before it closes : |

[fiery solar]

did they think it would make their game any more immersive by taking away the ability to chat with the other team

another thing why cant we just stay in the same server and the maps rotate instead of going to a whole new lobby

[velvet sand]

Cross-team chat probably killed to prevent toxicity. Same reason Riot did it with League of Legends after spending years trying to reduce toxicity by other means.

[iron socket]

I would like to tell the enemy team with their full S200+ loaded condor repair set up how they're actually lame asf

[whole plume]

My friend just sent me a video of him throwing it back I mean YANKING that shit backwards to Work by Rihanna

[fiery solar]

what happens in the game is far worse than what you're gonna read in a chat box

[shrewd summit]

I think their idea of Immersive isn't matching yours

[fiery solar]

no

[iron socket]

Their idea of immersion is going underneath the map.

[fiery solar]

angel does it again

[velvet sand]

Not really. Shooting people in a videogame is different than some troll spamming racial slurs and garbage. Riot legitimately spent mountains of time and money, including hiring psychologists, to try to find ways to reduce toxicity and eventually realized that it's just not going to happen for their game. DICE probably believe the same is more or less true for BF, and it's easier and less resource intensive to keep chat to team-only given that cross-chat doesn't really "add" a whole lot to the game.

[tepid briar]

Their Idea of Immersion is a Tank camping Elevators on a skyscraper

[shrewd summit]

Indeed he does. Makes you wonder how he does it every time...

[iron socket]

Can we please get map update as soon as Season 1 starts. It's so stupid to have to wait till march. Bf2042 would have a one year anniversary and still only have fixed 1-2 of its LAUNCH maps.

[fiery solar]

in battlefield 2042 i can slit someones throat open and run you ever with a tank but cursing at someone is where we cross the line

[velvet sand]

It is what it is. Can't rush things. Don't be sad, that's just how it works sometimes.

[fiery solar]

he said the thing he said it

[velvet sand]

Yes, because killing people is the point of the videogame and it's fiction. People getting racial abuse in chat isn't the point of the game and can cause actual harm. Same with any kind of verbal abuse, which is universally against TOS in online games for the most part.

[tepid briar]

But it's realistic

[pine roost]

I love that that’s a thing in squad, makes the end of a round so ceremonious

[iron socket]

Why do they care if people are toxic? Just how they blocked and censored all the hate on twitter. They deserve all the hate and I hope they take more accountability than just "we heard you". Like no say what it is "We released the game early with intent to gather christmas sales and we totally lied to our community and took their money while producing a horrible game with developers from candy crush."

[velvet sand]

Battlefield isn't realistic, lol. It's no milsim.

[velvet sand]

Because they don't want garbage people harassing others in their game because it harms the game overall? Because it takes more time for support to deal with reports and hand out account actions and then deal with people complaining about getting banned for spamming racial slurs and shit?

[fiery solar]

idk everyone uses COD lobbies as a reason they miss the old games

[tepid briar]

But racial abuse during a war is realistic.

[dapper berry]

this guy speaks truth

[velvet sand]

Good thing this is a videogame, sir.

[arctic grove]

[dapper berry]

it's a game, not war

[iron socket]

Does it harm it more than a game that doesn't work?

[fiery solar]

give us an example😈

[velvet sand]

Completely unrelated points. If you want to talk about the quality of the design of the game and state of the game at launch, that's a whole other ball of wax and one I imagine we'd share a great many opinions on.

[shrewd summit]

In reality, you can enlist in the army at 18, go to war and kill someone, but can't drink alcohol. Some things can't be explained.

[iron socket]

I'm messing with you. I understand the whole political correctness and the larger issue at hand. It's a sacrifice for the better. It was fun growing up for me but I do agree some people shouldn't experience that amount of racial slurs at such a delicate age

[tepid briar]

In America you mean

[velvet sand]

Has literally nothing to do with "political correctness".

[fiery solar]

yes we violently pop people to pieces with weapons but alcohol is where shit gets real

[iron socket]

Really? Political issues are also censored on bf2042

[velvet sand]

And "delicate age"? Slurs are bad at any age dude.

[iron socket]

Are you dense? There's a difference between a child and adult

[shrewd summit]

LOL, so true.

[velvet sand]

Of course they are, why wouldn't they be? Do you think that a BF2042 lobby is going to have a nuanced and productive discussion on domestic policy? lol, this is a fuckin videogame

[fiery solar]

USA USA

[velvet sand]

It honestly just sounds like you think you're owed a platform to say whatever on any online service you want, which is literally not how any of this works.

[iron socket]

So it is about providing an environment that's "politically correct"...

[arctic grove]

PREACH BROTHER 2024

[velvet sand]

Again, no. Nothing to do with that, that's largely a strawman used by garbage people when they complain that others call them out as garbage people.

[shrewd summit]

I can look back fondly for the days when losers would stream audio from episodes of Kojak while in game.

[velvet sand]

If anything, I prefer 2042 chat being heavily censored and less used, in part because of the lack of population. Less garbage spam in chat.

[arctic grove]

BF 2042 is trying to sell you 2 lies, the first one of it being a good game, the second one about climate change and then they pretend to not be woke

[tepid briar]

Then just delete the chat. Everything is censored anyways

[arctic grove]

Like elon said, woke is a virus

WAKE UP

[velvet sand]

can we just fuckin not?

[fiery solar]

never seen someone say anything worse in a battlefield game than getting mad at their team for not holding an objective

[plucky pebble]

welcome to 2013 brother

[arctic grove]

Yes

[iron socket]

So who's the censoring of chat protecting? People like you who are easily offended? or Children or "delicate age" who are hurt by mere words

[shrewd summit]

Same, truth be told.

[arctic grove]

Behold the truth

[plucky pebble]

also @fiery solar get out i payed premium 😡

[iron socket]

What's objective?

[fiery solar]

i cant play anything before bf4 online cause punkbuster doesnt allow it but bf4 wasnt so bad either

[velvet sand]

People like me who don't want to deal with that trash in our adult years after spending decades dealing with it while younger.

[arctic grove]

😡 I was a premium on BF3

[fiery solar]

i got it for free

[iron socket]

Sorry the world revolved around you princess, but a "hide chat" option exists..

[fiery solar]

$1 a month for 3 months

[velvet sand]

I mean, you're the one here complaining that the game doesn't cater to your preferences on chat, lol.

[arctic grove]

Got damn zoomers, they're brainwashed and are ruinning everything

[velvet sand]

Way too old to be a zoomer, bro. I don't even get zoomers.

[iron socket]

No i'm arguing that it's too restrictive. You're arguing it's not restricting enough. I'm trying to be more inclusive you're not lol

[arctic grove]

I'm not talking about you

[velvet sand]

No, I'm arguing that it's fine. And "inclusive" lol, if you actually believe that shit you're god-damned hilarious.

[arctic grove]

Inclusive deez nuts!

[iron socket]

I'm not using inclusive in the political sense.... it's a word...many ways to use it

[arctic grove]

sure pal

[iron socket]

I'm allowing for more speech while you aren't. Racial slurs are fine but to censor political things?

[arctic grove]

You're one of those people thinking that art is subjective

[iron socket]

i'm no art major nor liberal

[arctic grove]

suuuuuure

[velvet sand]

If DICE wants to keep both out of their game, they're welcome to. I cna't remember the last time I played an online game and saw chat having a productive and nuanced discussion about politics rather than just spamming the same few phrases/insults over and over.

[arctic grove]

They're just soy @velvet sand

[iron socket]

Maybe you can't remember because it's been censored...?

[velvet sand]

If you wanna talk politics, there are tons of social media platforms where you can do that. You can call up a friend! Text your group chat! Why you think people are coming to play BF2042 to engage in political debate is beyond me.

[arctic grove]

just wait till they're old it's going to hit them hard

if they're lucky

[velvet sand]

No, I can't remember because I still regularly see it in zone/world chat in MMO's and it's still the same deadbrained shit.

[iron socket]

I'm not saying free up only poltical issues but i'm saying thats part of the issue.

Everything should be free game except slurs.

[velvet sand]

If DICE wants to squash topics that are contentious and prone to causing bad behavior (trolling, flaming, harassment) like politics, which has no real reason to be discussed in their game, they can and probably should.

[arctic grove]

I don't mind slurs it's part of the game culture, if they say slurs to me in a video game it's kinda funny for them to believe I care, it makes me laugh

[iron socket]

Not like chat is an issue relating to games but I don't see why you would want more than slurs censored

[velvet sand]

Again, if you are that hard-up to talk politics, make a Parler or Gab or Twitter or Facebook or Telegram or literally one of the dozens of other social media accounts and shitpost about it there.

[iron socket]

Like I said it's not only politics.. Why do you insist they censor MORE than JUST slurs?

[tepid briar]

But why shouldn't you be allowes to talk politics in game?

[velvet sand]

Literally told you like 4 posts up. You should try reading.

[arctic grove]

Because everything games are pouring about politics are grooming and woke shit

[iron socket]

Your reasoning was "I grew up with it and I didn't like it!"

[velvet sand]

Because it's irrelevant to the game and primarily a source of conflict and harassment and shit. Because people aren't logging into 2042 to talk about politics.

[velvet sand]

Man, you've gone full Q with this shit. I guess it's quiet-hour for mods so I'll let the garbage talk amongst themselves.

[iron socket]

I mean most wars start with politics lmaoo

[arctic grove]

and that too

[arctic grove]

omg he said it

HE SAID IT

[iron socket]

Remember when they took out the Russian jet skin for POLITCAL CORRECTNESS LMAOO

[shrewd summit]

Correction, most wars start because of the failure of politics.

[velvet sand]

I love garbage people just getting on soapboxes and screaming about how garbage they are.

[iron socket]

Smart response

[arctic grove]

[iron socket]

I'm garbage because I think they should've left the cosmetic for the russian jet in a video game?? lmaoo You said it's just a video game why should they care about politics?

If it's people like you giving the feedback I could see why these updates have been weak..

[velvet sand]

I mean, as a long retired troll, you're not even very good at this. This is sad dude, just take the L

[arctic grove]

Yeah take the L and do the fortnite dance maybe?

[shrewd summit]

I think the historical time line goes something like politics, failure of politics, ambassadors, failure of ambassadors, war, failure of war, then the whole thing starts over again. Rinse, repeat.

[iron socket]

I already got you like 4 times in a row my boy wym? I gave you an example of the political correctness and you folded

[iron socket]

Where we at right now?

[arctic grove]

wtf

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[iron socket]

Aye who wants to play some good old BF2042?

[shrewd summit]

Failure of ambassadors, or diplomacy, which is non-existent this go around.

[shell ermine]

Anyway

Biggest difference newer BF players are going to see when Portal maps get added to AoW is just how much destruction the BC2 and 1942 maps have, BF3 to a lesser extent

[iron socket]

BFV was trash and yk it my boy should said BF4

[shell ermine]

BFV > BF4 too

[iron socket]

FR?!?!

[shell ermine]

BF4 doesn't have Wake Island

[iron socket]

What about BF1?!?!?!

[shell ermine]

BF1 doesn't have Wake Island

[iron socket]

OH MY GOD

[tepid briar]

Bro is trolling hard

[iron socket]

I got trolled so hard

[shell ermine]

Wake Island Conquest in BFV is so fucking good I could play that 24/7 forever. Not joking.

[shrewd summit]

Yup.

[shell ermine]

No BF since 1943 has come as close to being as consistently entertaining

[tepid briar]

No.

[shell ermine]

1943 was the best Frostbite Battlefield game until the Pacific content launched in BFV.

[tepid briar]

Please stop

[iron socket]

What do you smoke?

[arctic grove]

What do you smooke? the best frostbite was in bf3

[iron socket]

OH MY GOD D:

[arctic grove]

🍷

[tepid briar]

I was so close to erasing the BFV Pacific War memories. Just why dude D:

[arctic grove]

Cope

Bring them the copium tanks boys, they're going to need it

[shrewd summit]

Not close enough. It will always be there, living in your head, rent free.

[forest snow]

Getting so tired of those broken condors and hinds now

[velvet sand]

Guess we'll find out in a week or two if it's gonna be another 3-months of Condorfield 2042.

[forest snow]

If so then buff stingers then

[velvet sand]

I'll be happy if they fix the lockon bug so missiles actually hit when they should (if it's not fixed in 4.1, which I didn't see anything in the notes about it)

[forest snow]

I don’t know what takes less skill? Usas with frags on battlefield 3 or using a condor or hind all game.

[dapper berry]

can confirm it's not fixed

[velvet sand]

I don't mind "wasting" a rocket because I forced the aircraft to blow flares, but if I get a solid lock on them AFTER they've blown flares the missile should fuckin hit.

[velvet sand]

Man, I've tried reporting the issue in the bug forums but absolutely no response from DICE. Guess this either isn't a priority or isn't even on their radar : /

Still hoping next week kicks off the start of actual/meaningful C O M M U N I C A T I O N

[arctic grove]

[forest snow]

Do people only use that stupid k30 now?

[velvet sand]

Apparently the gun is "meta" now, so probably?

[forest snow]

Fuck meta’s people just use what’s broken and easy then claim it’s skill

[velvet sand]

Gaming since the early days.

[radiant prism]

Honestly I’ve seen way fewer Hinds and condors since they moved the MAV to the transport category

[forest snow]

In a game now where they have 2 hinds just hovering over our spawn killing everything

People that use them are trash

[slate meadow]

yeah the hinds needs nerfing for sure

[mental cave]

k30 is good now?

[honest comet]

gun?

[mental cave]

yea?

[honest comet]

yea its great

[mental cave]

it got buffed or everything else got nerfed?

[honest comet]

but i use mostly m5

while most ppl use scar and k30

[edgy oriole]

k30 been meta this whole time

[honest comet]

yeah

[edgy oriole]

pkp and k30 forever.

[honest comet]

im just tryin to get red skins on all guns lol

gonna take

[mental cave]

I been using scar since day 1 only gun I have maxed out lol

[honest comet]

a while

[honest comet]

its a cool gun i must say

[slate meadow]

my k30 is really bad right now i always run out of bullets before i get a kill on anyone because they are all running body armour

[honest comet]

thats weird since it has really fast ttk

[slate meadow]

i mean i do have the stock mad only so its only got 25 rounds

but every 1v1 even if i shoot the guy first over any distance past say 10 meters i lose because im litrally like 2-3 hits shorts

[burnt swan]

skill issue

[calm bison]

I’m gonna be honest but I completely forgot the Bizon existed in 2042 for a hot 2 days

[burnt swan]

jk stock mags are shit on the k30

[velvet sand]

I don't even know what a Bizon is >.>

[burnt swan]

the pp

[calm bison]

PP-29 Bizon

[velvet sand]

oh lol, I legit only know it as the PP because I'm mature and giggle at the name

[calm bison]

Also can DICE up the ROF of the DM7?

Like 360 could work for the close combat rounds

[honest comet]

best pbx attachments?

atm i use close combat mag, longer barrel,iron sights and not sure what grip lol

[hexed mango]

i use close combat ammo, and standard barrel, and the lwg (i think, ill double check)

[honest comet]

tnx

imma try that

[hexed mango]

ah i use BCG, either that or LWG, depends on what you play like

BCG = better aimed accuracy
LWG = better accuracy while moving

[fervent grotto]

Is the SCAR good? I use it and it feels nice but sometimes I feel like I just get straight up outgunned

[delicate hollow]

SFAR is really good once you control that recoil. I'd recommend using standard issue bullets

[arctic grove]

I wish I had a good BF game that is close to what squad is

Bro long barrel with extra mag works wonders

[radiant prism]

SFAR is amazing after the recent patch

Feels great now

[honest comet]

yeah mostly ppl use scars and k30s

and ac

[dim hatch]

M5, CC ammo, laser

[honest comet]

umm but not good over range

rather use then some smg

[radiant prism]

It’s a great choice if you want to have the M5 though, just keep other ammo types handy in the plus menu

[dim hatch]

use it as an SMG. You need to pulse the shots.

same with K30

[fervent grotto]

I don’t have those unlocked yet. And I can control it

But high power is dogshit so yea

[radiant prism]

High power is great if you can hit shots and control the recoil

[arctic grove]

[upbeat sand]

Ak-24 high power extended is good

[arctic grove]

hi

[serene spire]

next battlefield should bring back levolution

2042 no destruction..

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/bru-gif-22732864

[serene spire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/702201796197613659/949429563182690394/5862606B-ACA5-46D1-8C29-55566FED83C4.gif

[arctic grove]

I MADE IT THE FUCK UP

[arctic grove]

[upbeat sand]

the town in discarded

[arctic grove]

when battlefield mobile has better destruction than 2042 💀
you know dice did something wrong then

[arctic grove]

when battlefield mobile has better destruction than 2042 💀
you know dice did something wrong then

oh wow less fps in this bf2042 update great job dice

[errant scarab]

LOL

[arctic grove]

IKR i tried it out today and its sadly true bro

i thought bf on pc was known for good destruction

[errant scarab]

BF mobile? Where

[arctic grove]

its in alpha testing rn and is really early in dev

[errant scarab]

How i want play

[wide shore]

Sure. Except for Arica Harbor, Valparaiso, Noshahr Canals, Caspian Border, half the map on Hourglass, all the small buildings on Discarded, every single warehouse building in the game, the fact that you can knock down every single tree, and leave deep craters in the map on every map/majority of surfaces. The bigger destruction events on Kaleidoscope. The rocket on orbital… But yeah, no destruction at all

Is it less frequent than past games? Definitely. Is it worse? No

[calm bison]

So I just saw Top Gun 2

I feel like a few scenes can be recreated in 2042

We have F18s, we have SU-57s, and we have Hinds

We also have Battle of the Bulge and Breakaway

[arctic grove]

[sudden nimbus]

i like levelution and distruction that does not disrupt the flow of a map

[arctic grove]

[burnt swan]

https://streamable.com/q1fl4n i love this game...

why hasnt dice implemented a tk limit on hardcore

[kind osprey]

What is up with all cheating lately? Getting really bad!

[copper fulcrum]

I ain't seen shit

[burnt swan]

you realize no one makes cheats for 2042

cause the game is so broken cheats dont work

[kind osprey]

Umm what? You must be joking...right?

[burnt swan]

seen some articles about it during launch idk about now

someone probably found a way to make them work

[kind osprey]

also getting weird animation speed up and slow downs, 1 frame deaths...

Game is a mess! Sadly

[cedar turtle]

GOTY

[limber basin]

I just downloaded BF 2042 yesterday still havent played it yet though is it very broken like Efootball 2022 pre 1.0 type?

[arctic grove]

It’s definitely not

The game is way more stable now

[arctic grove]

Y tho? At least back your statement up with evidence

[arctic grove]

A mobile game with significantly smaller lobbies and maps will be able to fit that in

If 2042 attempted the ‘ideal’ battlefield destruction the performance would be significantly worst on varying consoles and PCs

[arctic grove]

not really lmfaoo 2042 just has piss poor destruction tbh

even a alpha on a phone has more content than 2042 💀

not hating on 2042 as i play it but im starting to think mobile has better features

That’s because of the map sizes my man. The engine strain would cause performance problems. Was it smart to design 2x larger maps if it sacrificed that? Probably not

well i know the map sizes is a problem

Which is why dice plans on shifting away from 128 next major installment. Just didn’t work out amongst other demands the engine is processing during a 30 minute game

but them saying next gen really aint it

[arctic grove]

i agree on that part

but i was hopging for so called more destruction with their so called next gen engine

The question is what was DICE talking about when they said next gen? Cause they technically aren’t wrong

i dunno

but bro unreal engine 5 can do this destruction in a large player based map no problem while dice's engine just aint ready tbh

If every single thing was planned by DICE to be significantly upgraded I’d think they’d say that

i feel like dice needs a whole engine upgrade :))

The engine being able to meet the demands of 128 players in itself is next gen

But of course you can’t have an up without a down

[arctic grove]

that could be done ages ago on other engines sadly so dice needs to catch up

[scenic tartan]

There's virtually no cheaters in 2042

[arctic grove]

ye all i have found is bots 😂

It could. But can it be done the way DICE did in a FPS game?

lmao no it cant

i only see this tech being stuck with them for ages

So it can’t be done on other engines

i think dice needs to just give us bf4 maps and bf3 maps for official and call it a day

[arctic grove]

well it can just not on dice

imagine if dice used chaos destruction from ue5 for a battlefield game i think that would be pretty neat

Every little thing needs to be considered though. You can’t get that destruction and let 64/128 people running around dynamically destroying it. Not unless you want hundreds of performance complaints

[arctic grove]

correct but bf4 even had it good

new tech means better fps in my books

Well, I myself wouldn’t happen to know how powerful frostbite is if we factor in your ideal destruction, but I think if it were possible it’d be in game

[rocky ether]

I want to see big destruction on 2042 big maps I want to collapse a skyscraper

[arctic grove]

Levolutions have a mixed reception in battlefield but if enough people ask for it maybe we’ll get them or some form of them in a future title, or future maps in 2042

[arctic grove]

[kind osprey]

keep saying it, maybe you will actually believe that...

[arctic grove]

129 hours in since November 12th, never saw any convincing evidence anyone in my hundreds of games were cheating

Only time I saw cheating in 2042 was when someone else literally said someone on the enemy team was doing it. Basically hackusations

[wanton magnet]

128 players on bf4 maps would be awesome.

[kind osprey]

no, all you noticed was no one blatantly cheating...that is very limited, had someone on my own team admit he was using cheats, wall hacks, aimbot, etc.

1 frame death by SMG's and AR's is getting really aggravating, animation speed up and slow down is also really annoying...man I just wanted this game to be good...sad really...

[arctic grove]

How limited is one guy telling your team he was cheating?

I’ve still never seen anything suspicious whatsoever

[kind osprey]

well you have been lucky then, kinda jealous

[arctic grove]

Also, what’s animation speed up and slow down?

[kind osprey]

gun fire fast / slow randomly

[arctic grove]

Huh that’s strange, I never really stopped to focus on something like that, fire rate always seemed consistent to the gun for me. Only notice a change whenever I put an extended barrel on guns that can use them

[arctic grove]

I only really have beef with the NTW

K30 too sometimes but it’s at least more bearable than the NTW

[kind osprey]

yeah happens several times a game for me, and 3 of my friends that play several times a week...

lol yeah agreed

[arctic grove]

One time I had the advantage on a dude with an NTW and after firing about 2-3 shots I just get removed from the planet. But to be fair it’s drop off is pretty bad so you usually end up being in a sensitive range to anything you want to hit

dOnT bE sAd tHaTs jUsT hOw iT wOrKs oUt SoMeTiMeS

Lol

i wonder if they will ever delete these cringe voices

they change character designs but not voice ;/

Luckily they are changing them

wait really why thank you ea

Yup, to sound more serious and less immersion shattering

its cringe af when he says that

its like he has a mental issue and loves killing

That’s exactly what the problem with the quips were. They just seemed so detached from the story the game pushed relatively well everywhere else in terms of the maps and why the no pats are there, 2042 lore, stuff like that

ye

but if you were in the war i dont think you would be like dont be sad 😂

remember when bf was all about screaming and shouting and swearing and proper voice lines

Yup I remember those best from 3 and 4

[arctic grove]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Updates/Battlefield-Briefing-Development-Update-May-2022/td-p/11510768 one of the voice line changes for angel is right below the screenshot that shows the different facial designs mackay and Boris will get

o yay

eh tbh i dont see much of a improvement in the voice

Yeah we’ll have to wait for more in a couple or so weeks but it’s something

why does the new mackay look like
chocoTaco

I think the vision is make them less enthusiastic and a little more down to earth

ye

[copper fulcrum]

I wonder if Irish will have his tone cha-- oh

[arctic grove]

Irish is fine though imo

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah he's fine

[arctic grove]

can they delete sundance please thank you

we dont want no none binary shi

And it’s not even just cause he’s dead, he really isn’t too bad in any way, he even looks like a soldier with default skin options

[copper fulcrum]

Not gonna happen lol

They're one of the poster characters

[copper fulcrum]

Ah yes, pronouns in descriptions are the main reason, yes, quite.

[arctic grove]

im not here for battlefield none binary 2042

Mfw pronouns

[copper fulcrum]

Now shut up snowflake

[arctic grove]

To be fair sundances sexuality is literally never mentioned in any way other than their description lol

did you just call me a snowflake lmfao

[copper fulcrum]

Yes, you're getting mad at pronouns in a bio

[arctic grove]

none ever liked sundance anyway
so you shush

[copper fulcrum]

Nah

[arctic grove]

I hate sundance just because her design is ugly

mW2 wIll bE sUb DoGShiT

[copper fulcrum]

100%

[arctic grove]

boi your name is just funny

your over here saying mw2 will be shit yet look at 2042 🤡

[copper fulcrum]

CoD's always been shit

[arctic grove]

cough 2042 cough.......

[copper fulcrum]

everyone knows this

[arctic grove]

ok there mr ea/dice fanboy

[copper fulcrum]

okay there mr snowflake

[arctic grove]

if anything mw2019 is better than 2042 💀

wish i could refund but sadly i cant cause ea wont let me

[copper fulcrum]

As if CoD is anywhere above a 0/10 rating

[arctic grove]

sundance ea fanboy

If dice just adds unnamed soldiers/classes back into the game everyone will be happy

[arctic grove]

i agree i miss bf4 and 3 soldiers

but mr fanboy over here loves his pronounce solders

[arctic grove]

Black ops 2, cod4 and mw2 were highly accepted by the gaming community

[arctic grove]

is that bf hardline oo thats a gem

dont get why it was hated ;/

[copper fulcrum]

Mostly because it wasn't military styled

[arctic grove]

Probably means any cod after 2012

[arctic grove]

well mw2019 and mw22 is so far better than what we have rn from dice 💀

but that guy is just a fanboy for bad bf games tbh

Yeah exception probably being mw19, really great game

lets hope this so called new animation update on 2042 makes it better
i really hate the janky anims

For me personally I didn’t play every cod after 2012 but I liked the ones I did

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mw2 back in the old days was a classic

AW and IW were really cool, but I never bothered with ghosts, WW2 and BO4

have you seen the leaked mw2 gameplay it has better anims than 2042 💀

The only leaked gameplay I saw was -144p 8 second footage of an mp5 inspect and what I assume was the countdown before a match started lol

[arctic grove]

ye i saw one with ai upscaled