battlefield-2042

[jovial quest]

On what

[grizzled whale]

g57

[jovial quest]

I remember doing that gun

[tacit sphinx]

this is more likely just matchmaking at the same time as people who you were just in a match with putting you in the same lobbies again

[jovial quest]

That too

Stream sniping is extremely easy

[grizzled whale]

you got it T1?>

[jovial quest]

I got tier 1 on every gun except that 1 of the other pistols, I have no motivation to play the game rn

[tacit sphinx]

i don’t really know what the reasoning for not having persistent lobbies was, possibly to do with bots although in that case they shouldn’t have been prioritised, but i highly doubt there is SBMM purely because trying to get it to work on the scale of 64 or 128 player matches would probably break it

[jovial quest]

[grizzled whale]

what was your primary way for g57 kills

[jovial quest]

Put on Spotify and bunny hop around like a dumbass

Gotten done in like a day or two

[tacit sphinx]

eh stream sniping is usually just an excuse for someone killing you a few times i get it in a BR where you might actually benefit from knowing where the other player is but for multiplayer games it’s just like who cares

[grizzled whale]

i need 80 kills for g57, then around 1000 with the mp28 and then im done, all weapons T1

[jovial quest]

Yea your right but what you said about the boys could also be true

I didn’t think about the bots

[low timber]

What attachment do you have on your G57?

[jovial quest]

Put the drum mag on

[low timber]

I did have a hunch of subsonics

[tacit sphinx]

personally i use the -hrec muzzle i think, just makes the burst fire more consistent

[low timber]

but why irons?

[jovial quest]

Drum makes the gun to ez to spray and pray

[grizzled whale]

nah, i found that the subsonic has more consistent damage

[tacit sphinx]

subsonics not worth it, you want the normal rounds probably in an extended mag

[grizzled whale]

and range, and i prefer faster reload over mag size

[low timber]

Subsonics do more damage at longer ranges than the standard it has.

[jovial quest]

Actually I take that back i forgot they changed the attachments

[tacit sphinx]

actually looking at the sym.gg they’re identical in terms of damage

so it is kinda preference, i prefer at least an extended mag for burst

[jovial quest]

[low timber]

the standard ammo on it has damage drop off about half earlier.

[tacit sphinx]

..no, they’re identical unless sym is wrong or outdated

[low timber]

you are comparing the same ammo type

[tacit sphinx]

oh bruh

ok it doesn’t let me select subsonic??

[low timber]

G57 only has close quarter, close quarter extended, close quarter drum and subsonics.

[jovial quest]

It just works…

[tacit sphinx]

fixed it, yeah subsonic keeps 4 damage for like 30m over close combat

[low timber]

plus no tracers

Btw, does the pistol suppressors hide you from any distance or from only long range?

[tacit sphinx]

might have to give it a go, reduced capacity for burst fire does put me off slightly especially since i rarely use the glock past 20 metres where there would be a difference

[tacit sphinx]

i think they’re just light suppressors

although tbf “long range” is misleading since unless it’s been changed it worked past about like 15 metres

[grizzled whale]

i just want a hardcore mode with actual hardcore damage

2 shot pistol kills

[low timber]

then in that case the pistol suppressors are worthless, as they also reduce the velocity and damage where 6ku and wrapped only reduce one of those stats.

[tacit sphinx]

last i checked there were some fairly well made looking hc servers but i guess if you’re wanting it for progression it probably doesn’t work

[grizzled whale]

nope

[tacit sphinx]

or it does idk what the limits are anymore

[grizzled whale]

if rules are edited no progression

[tacit sphinx]

doesn’t seem to reduce velocity at all looking at the numerical stats

[next onyx]

Just wish the g57 wasn't a 5hk.

[jovial quest]

Game with no progression

[next onyx]

It's an odd number on a two burst weapon.

[jovial quest]

Good idea…

[tacit sphinx]

it fires bursts of 3 tbf

[next onyx]

It does a double not a three what.

I'll need to test this.

I swear it's been a two shot burst since launch.

[tacit sphinx]

i think the ac42 is a 4hk to torso (although recoil quite often takes you up to a headshot which is a guaranteed kill)

[next onyx]

Oh yuck hourglass.

[low timber]

oh, then i remembered wrong, but still, i'd rather use a reduced velocity suppressor on a weapon used for close range.

[tacit sphinx]

no, always been three burst since the beta lol

[next onyx]

What the fuuuck.

[grizzled whale]

its more

[next onyx]

It deals 20 damage max.

[grizzled whale]

ive hit people with 6 shots in hardcore

[next onyx]

Weird.

Almost tier 1 Angel finally by the way haha.

[low timber]

I've wasted all 31 rounds in the drum for one enemy because how inaccurate it is

[warm patrol]

What’s up bois battlefield 2042 rn,

[low timber]

But still the suppressor is worthless if it doesn't hide you in its intended range.

[grizzled whale]

pretty sure thats 6 hits

[low timber]

Oh yeah Way, I need less than 50 kills with the SFAR to T1 it.

[low timber]

I counted 4 hitmarkers.

[grizzled whale]

im literally about to break my keyboard because of this fucking pistol

[craggy marten]

Welcome to 2042

[next onyx]

Good shit Marse.

I think that's your suppressor as well. That's why it's a 6hk.

@grizzled whale Take that suppressor off, Only the wrapped suppressor doesn't reduce damage.

[chilly jacinth]

hit your shots and you might mald less

[low timber]

WTF shot an enemy 5-10 meters away with the 12M and only did 6 dmg?!

He has it on T1 i think

[grizzled whale]

im doing the mp28 next

[upbeat sand]

Oops i deleted it

Ahh pistol mastery I see

[grizzled whale]

g57 and mp28 are the only guns i need T1

[radiant prism]

Suppressor lowers damage

[upbeat sand]

Why not put a scope?

[night vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-boring-meme-meme-bored-gif-20777470

[ember nimbus]

Melee weapons🗿

[olive lake]

Another weekly, another week of capped progression.

[grizzled whale]

another weekly another nobody cares

[mental delta]

Another weekly, another shitty comsetic

[mental delta]

Bloody crowbar as a legendary weapon

[low timber]

Ffs, again i died again to a Carl Gustav that goes past my APS and one hit kills me trough my fucking shield that doesn’t even break! Irish gadgets are so broken that they are useless.

[olive lake]

Cared enough to respond. Grow up.

[mental delta]

The opposite for me, I am never able to destroy these fucking deployable walls

[grizzled whale]

cared enough to read my message even tho you blocked me

[low timber]

What? I just said the shield didn’t even break.

[mental delta]

Cared enough to see your conversation while not being implicated

[mental delta]

My bad I read the opposite, I'm a lil dumb sorry

[grizzled whale]

i just went top scoreboard on either team, most kills, most assists, with g57 only

i just cant with these teams man

[lone wren]

g57 good gun

[grizzled whale]

literal burst to the head doesnt kill

[radiant prism]

Because you’re using the suppressor lmao

[grizzled whale]

im not using a supressor

[radiant prism]

Oh

[radiant prism]

Wait yeah you’re not lol

I think you only hit them once though, the first shot definitely missed

[rain quest]

Do badges not improve in flashback conquest. ?

[grizzled whale]

finally

[low timber]

Why is your hip fire reticle so tight? For me its really open even with laser.

[grizzled whale]

idk

[low timber]

Seems like its Battle of the Bulge o’clock as every server i try to join is that map.

[next onyx]

Hacking do be kinda good.

Err.

Rao.

[low timber]

Ban hammer

[plush ice]

Gotta know. How is the game now? Haven’t played since around release but I’m wanting to try it again

[next onyx]

It's half way better.

[shell ermine]

I really don't understand how attachments and the minimap work in this game.

Does shooting put you on the minimap?

Does using any suppressor keep you off of it?

Is there a range limit?

[radiant prism]

Yes yes and yes

[low timber]

Maybe I’ll give up on Irish until Dice fixes the shield and APS. Had enough of dying to Carl-Gustavs that the APS fails to block and the shield letting the blast trough.

[next onyx]

Skipper can you share me what you use for cropping? Kinda want to keep the frames of my videos kek.

[grizzled whale]

the cropping or recording?

i use Win+Shft+S for screenshots and shadowplay+free online video cutter for videos

[next onyx]

Ahhh.

Wonderful! :D

[grizzled whale]

oof 30 fps

[copper fulcrum]

Ah they had C5 on it

[next onyx]

Yeah I want a better thing for cropping.

[grizzled whale]

https://online-video-cutter.com/

[copper fulcrum]

Have you tried using a Gardening Hoe?

[grizzled whale]

okay i like the mp28 a lot more than the g57

its a lot more like an smg than a pistol

[low timber]

It has better damage per bullet, and maybe fire rate?

[grizzled whale]

yas

[wide shore]

G57 burst is goated

Become customary for me to swap fire modes at the start of the round.

[grizzled whale]

i just got the perfect server banner

[low timber]

Wait what?! How is my melee damage only 5/100? I bashed an enemy Irish who survived it and shot me trough the shield.

[cedar turtle]

Please take a moment today to save the bees. Thank you.

[tacit sphinx]

i'd say more like a pistol carbine (which is... effectively what it is)

[next onyx]

Much better!

[tacit sphinx]

speaking of, the VCAR actually feels really good now lol

[grizzled whale]

i feel like the grapling hook should be a 1 shot kill

[celest oar]

can they just stop with the stupid requirement like getting melee damage? People said never bring a knife into gunfight, here I am having to do stupid thing

[grizzled whale]

git gud

[celest oar]

more like get luck

back to rooftop elevator door camping i guess

[grizzled whale]

literally just knife someone

[edgy oriole]

use dozer. unless changed in last update his melee shield is literal 1 hit kill.

[celest oar]

that what i'm about to do same thing I used to grind his gear, roof top elevator

[low timber]

It should be one hit kill, expect u just did 5 damage with it

As I bashed an enemy with it, after round went to check the progression and it was 5/100

[grizzled whale]

nah i got one melee kill and it countedf

[low timber]

I just now did get a one bash kill, but not long ago I also only did 5 damage with it.

[celest oar]

maybe the guy you bash got only 5hp left?

[tacit sphinx]

could have just been on 5 health anyway

[edgy oriole]

if that person has armour it wont be a 1 hit. idk the math behind it, but armour is very minimal now.

[low timber]

Nope, they shot me with the LCMG trough my shield

They were Irish so most likely had armor, but that doesn’t explain why it only did 5 dmg.

[tacit sphinx]

i think it's just that it deals at least 100 damage but somewhere less than 120 as you can't kill a full health full armour player

but yeah i saw a lot less armour hitmarkers in my first game since 4.1 yesterday

[next onyx]

It's a fucking blessing.

[edgy oriole]

I i just dont know how im gonna play long enough to get 15 ribbons. this gonna be the hardest weekly this far.

[tacit sphinx]

15 ribbons is like 2-3 matches lol

[low timber]

Don’t jinx it now Way, next they’ll add a specialist with the ability to give armor, and only armor

[next onyx]

Combat ribbons plus

Motion balls.

LOL Marse.

Cannot wait for that.

[low timber]

Technically you could get 15 ribbons in one round, as there are 5 ribbons with 3 levels.

[edgy oriole]

I can barely get past half a match now bc its so boring.

[tacit sphinx]

i had a match yesterday where i must have got 12 ribbons and probably could have got 15 if i'd switched to angel or something and just spammed ammo at people

[tacit sphinx]

sounds like a you issue then

[edgy oriole]

yes..... thats what my previous msg was.....

[next onyx]

Would be cool if there was a Combat ribbon V.

More points.

[edgy oriole]

especially now since the game is just tdm

[tacit sphinx]

would probably want IV as well in that case

[grizzled whale]

42-25 mp28 only, confirmed i prefer this over the g57

[next onyx]

You know what I mean!

[tacit sphinx]

yeah it can borderline be a second primary weapon, it definitely feels like much more of a secondary weapon than a sidearm

if that makes sense

[grizzled whale]

im just happy i finally got the g57 T1 and mackay to mastery 400

[silk surge]

https://youtu.be/hdoC0GzzT28 I love nothing more than outplaying jets. Huge dopamine kick.

[celest oar]

so why in lobby the gun you holding doesn't show the under barrel attachment? I like the look of gun with some underbarrel grip

[low timber]

Will you do the MP443 next, if that gets added from portal.

[tacit sphinx]

most likely just so it doesn't cause any clipping issues or having to adapt the pose for the 4 or 5 different possible underbarrel hand grip styles on some guns

[silk surge]

Mastery 400 already? I'm starting to think that I'm not the best Mackay in here.

[grizzled whale]

you never were buddy

[edgy oriole]

[silk surge]

Second best, since we're only ones playing the game on this server

[celest oar]

[grizzled whale]

you

vs me

[silk surge]

Damn

You play Breakthrough a lot?

[grizzled whale]

then again, my kd is lower because i did every weapon T1 on mackay, and some weapons were..... not as good

[silk surge]

Ok what

How do you have almost 2kpm on conquest, what is this

[grizzled whale]

because i can do shit like this with a pre buff vcar

and because i do shit like this with pretty much every weapon]

got a 40.37 kills/match

[silk surge]

Most of my full games ends in 30-50 kills, and I'm not even close to 2kpm.

[grizzled whale]

if im doing well and focusing on infantry i do 50-100 kills per match

going sweat mode that is

[low timber]

Again, the fuck is that hip fire reticle size?! I have my 12M out right now and its massive.

Whats your FOV?

[grizzled whale]

92

[grizzled whale]

whats your setup?

[silk surge]

This is my best conquest infantry only game ever so far. In hourglass nonethless.

[next onyx]

SCAR Very good, Yes?

[grizzled whale]

my best was 126-20 on manifest iirc

[low timber]

Mines only 62, wait, why isn’t it even number anymore

[tacit sphinx]

yeah i'm pretty sure the reticle scales with FOV

[silk surge]

I did get a ton of 100+ games on PORTAL when Rush Chaos was active. That gamemode was so insanely fastpaced.

[tacit sphinx]

62 sounds nauseating though what

[next onyx]

I got my first hundy bomb on flashback conquest.

[low timber]

Dunno actually why its that low, It should be higer than 75.

I guess i didnt fix it after 4.0 update

Now its on 90

[next onyx]

Mine's sitting on a nice 90.

[grizzled whale]

this was a great sniper only match

[tacit sphinx]

yeah i just go with 90

too high feels a bit quake pro lol

[silk surge]

Rush?

[next onyx]

I'm used to 100 but if I can't see anything I'll lower to a point where I actually can.

[low timber]

Did McKay loose the cooldown icon from the reticle? I’m McKay and not see it.

[grizzled whale]

nah, snipers only portal match

@low timber was the FOV the difference in crosshair?

[low timber]

Its smaller, but not as small as yours

[silk surge]

Damn, nobody in your team besides you even reached 2KD.

[grizzled whale]

bro i was popping off

[low timber]

What do you have on the crosshair projection? Never touched that setting tbh

[silk surge]

Here's from that gamemode where you had 30 seconds to kill someone. I do strangely well on PORTAL lobbies with low playercount for some reason.

[next onyx]

I usually hit round 40 to 80 kills really.

Sadly.

[low timber]

My latest clip I’m proud of is where i shoot the feet of four enemies from under the metal sheet shack with my sfar and g57.

[grizzled whale]

whats that under?

oh, its on

[low timber]

Display > crosshair
I’m guessing you have it ON then

[grizzled whale]

pretty much all my settings are default except FOV, cam shake and graphics

[silk surge]

I hope you don't play on PC. It's games like this that could end in false-positive bans through salty reports.

[grizzled whale]

oh i know that all too well, perma banned from warzone/MW/Cold war/vanguard/mw2 2022 because of that

[low timber]

All CoD

[grizzled whale]

every cod on Bnet yeah, get banned on one, you are permad on all

[low timber]

Which Dice dev also got banned in CoD?

[silk surge]

That's... a lot of games you've been banned from.

[next onyx]

That'd be Florian, Drunkze.

[silk surge]

Wait did you say you got banned from a game that hasn't even had a trailer yet?

[low timber]

Those games use the same ban list

[grizzled whale]

yes

its a hwid ban, i got insta banned from the vanguard beta

so ill 99% sure ill be insta banned from mw2 2022 too

also my cold war zombies account got perma banned even though i only played zombies and it remained unbanned for MONTHS after i got banned on the other games

[silk surge]

Damn.

[grizzled whale]

literally THOUSANDS of hours and euros wasted because activision has a ban system that can be influenced by reports

[silk surge]

The top 1 BF2042 player recently got false banned. He got unbanned rather quickly.

He has 1400 hours in 2042 already. I have no idea how.

[low timber]

Remember in BFV people got banned from getting too much xp in a extremely short time for using the spotting flare on the grind mode?

[silk surge]

That's more than I have in BFV, and I played that game throughout it's lifecycle.

[grizzled whale]

im just a great sniper

[grizzled whale]

you mean devil john?

[silk surge]

He has a weird name that I can't remember, but it started with dz.

[grizzled whale]

devil john has the highest play time at 1576 hours, his stats are odd tho

[silk surge]

He's been at top 10 since BF3. That dude is probably the sweatiest BF player ever.

[grizzled whale]

0.13 kpm, 23 dpm, only 12k kills but is at s205

[silk surge]

0.13????

[tacit sphinx]

the hell lol

[grizzled whale]

okay yeah i would see this as extremely sus too

thats dZ_DsciSiv

[tacit sphinx]

that seems bugged out

[silk surge]

Is he doing long range sniping only?

[silk surge]

Yeah that sounds right.

[soft swallow]

So Dice will nerf movements and improve animations?

[grizzled whale]

those stats are fucking insane

[silk surge]

Everyone in the top 10 are sus. You don't get that kind of KD and KPM if there isn't at least a bit of cheating involved.

[grizzled whale]

9.14kd, but only 24 kills per match

[silk surge]

That's a tank main if I've ever seen one.

[next onyx]

There we go.

A vehicle main bitch.

[silk surge]

Oh god, Bolte main

[grizzled whale]

thats only 15k of his 72k kills tho

dude has 45k K30 kills

[low timber]

Urgh, again i died to an enemy who had no footsteps at all.

[grizzled whale]

sorry

and then theres this dude

[silk surge]

80,5 HS% HMMMMMMM

[grizzled whale]

sniper main

could be legit, 3700 of his kills are DXR

[silk surge]

Even as sniper that's insanely high.

[tacit sphinx]

yeah mine are like 40%

[grizzled whale]

0.34 kills/m

[tacit sphinx]

or that might just be accuracy actually idr

[silk surge]

That means he only misses their heads once every 5th shot.

[grizzled whale]

he has a 5.86 kills per match

he just camps at the edge of the map and gets lucky every now and then

[silk surge]

So he basically only shoots when it's a certain hit?

[tacit sphinx]

sounds like it

[grizzled whale]

i mean i have a 77.3% headshot rate on my DXR, and a perfect 69% on my sws

its not hard to get that on a sniper

this guy is legit too

10k apache kills, 7+ kills per minute

[next onyx]

I haven't played it much (185 kills) but my head shot rate is 91.9% with the DSR.

[grizzled whale]

1337 h4x0r get banned

[next onyx]

In the saying of that.

Out of my main assault rifles, I've got a higher headshot rate with my SCAR than I do with my other assault rifles.

Wait no nevermind, That's my AK24.

The SCAR has the highest KPM at 2.63 (Wow)

[grizzled whale]

67.5% headshot rate on my GVT

[tacit sphinx]

yeah i have a pretty solid headshot rate with both snipers

[next onyx]

Hacker.

[grizzled whale]

now show the rest of the stats

beat this

[tacit sphinx]

[next onyx]

HAHA.

[tacit sphinx]

i have 1200kpm on the spas12

absolutely cracked your honour

[grizzled whale]

353% accuracy

i hit 3.5 bullets for every bullet shot

[next onyx]

I've got a 3.68 KPM with mine how the fuck do you have that with yours.

[tacit sphinx]

shotgun moment

[grizzled whale]

melee

[tacit sphinx]

oh huh

[grizzled whale]

somehow, idk how that works either

[tacit sphinx]

maybe it only counts swings as "shots" and takedowns aren't in that, but add to the kills?

[tacit sphinx]

gun game where i got given a spas 12 and immediately killed a guy with it, i have 5 seconds with it

[grizzled whale]

i got no clue, 55k damage per minute and 284 kills per minute somehow doesnt add up either

we need quickdraw back

[tacit sphinx]

wait nvm it's 1200 damage/min and 12.00kpm lol

[next onyx]

KEK.

[sudden nimbus]

is there any plans to nerf how OP flairs are

the AA rocket is useless against any pilot that just knows what button to deploy flairs is

[velvet sand]

I'm still fairly convinced there's a bug with Stingers that results in them not hitting despite a solid lock and no flares. Though holy crap it feels like flares are always up.

But balance on that area with the way maps are made and the vehicles are designed is uh...hard, let's say. Not an easy problem to fix without a lot of design work IMO.

[sudden nimbus]

just had a game where locked on, watched them deploy flairs, they circled around 1 building and watched it deploy flairs again

that and helis can just fly high enough and just cant get locked on

[velvet sand]

Yes, the "just outrange them" is one of the few tactics air have on maps where there's little to no vertical cover and they can't consistently get low enough to hide behind small hills or something.

[lilac dust]

Kinda weird they removed 128 breakthrough instead of hazard zone..... 128 breakthrough probably had the highest player count out of any mode. 64 while superior in ways just woudn't surpass the player count of 128 because most casual players don't care if it's balanced. They just wanna get their challenges done more efficiently or just have some crazy chaos

[velvet sand]

"It wasn't tactical", but still 100% convinced it's because the resources required to sort performance on those modes is too much for them to bother investing. Easier to just kill it and avoid the performance issues, which aren't a problem in HZ given the considerably smaller match sizes that don't put 70+ people fighting in a small area over a single objective.

We'll just never get the honest answer out of them because it's not a good look to say, "We fucked up and didn't scope out one of our main modes/selling points properly and don't have the bandwidth to fix it post-launch."

[arctic grove]

it had more players than HZ thats for sure. I swear dice makes the dumbest decisions

[vivid stag]

[arctic grove]

Agreed. It do be a battlefield moment

[vivid stag]

dadundundadundun

[edgy oriole]

what i thought would be the hardest challenge to date because of this update turned out to be the easiest.

idk why i thought it would be hard tbh. breakthrough is tdm now.

[sudden nimbus]

probably more linked to they have challenges and achievements tied to hazard zone so they cant just remove it

plus can still play 128 breakthrough in portal right?

[edgy oriole]

I saw people in here say breakthrough isnt in portal but idk bc i dont play portal.

[sudden nimbus]

i mean i see zombies and conquest

[arctic grove]

nope. its not possible to create a custom breakthrough mode. Maybe in the future they will let us create it.

[edgy oriole]

Amazon gaming skin dropped if anyone got prime

[silk surge]

What's with all the complaining about aim assist btw? I haven't had a single problem with AA since launch, but apparently it's broken?

[edgy oriole]

It shouldnt be. theyve pretty much been fixing it (atleast in patch notees) past 4 updates i think.

[silk surge]

I still hear people on Twitter whining about it. https://twitter.com/JU_JU_bee187/status/1529824092651540480?t=-0ehiUtJQCZD2aejdBX-ZQ&s=19

J (@JU_JU_bee187)

@monman32 @BFBulletin Console players have to use this gun because the aim assist is completely broken for us blame dice 🙃

Twitter · May 26, 2022, 1:57 PM

[fallen yarrow]

Meanwhile I get beamed by console players from across the map without missing a single shot

[uncut bay]

at this point i'm convinced a population of players are just incredibly shit at the game and blame everything on dice

[shy grotto]

This right here. Ita always easier to blame other factors than themselves

[edgy oriole]

my only guess is that he wants aim assist to completely lock on from long distance? i could be thinking about it wrong.

[silk surge]

Exactly!!

[uncut bay]

i feel like my aiming is off sometimes, but that's just because i periodically lose focus and become unable to control recoil as well. It's not dice's fault, it's me, and blaming dice would be idiotic

[edgy oriole]

which is prolly why the game is like super super easy now. but ig im a privileged pc gamer so i shouldnt speak on it.

[uncut bay]

everybody knows pc gamers don't have an opinion 🙄

[silk surge]

Like, I could write a whole list of grievances I have with this game. But it feels like the complaints that dominates the conversation are made by people that have garbage gamesense and think it's DICE's fault.

[celest oar]

Has anyone try XIM on PC? Does the mouse work fine in the game?

[wide shore]

Aiming feels a lot better on console after 4.1. The aim assist actually works.

[edgy oriole]

without me being a baby about 128bt being gone they fixed all my issues in the game when they finally fixed reviving. and 4.0 was dope of an update.

[silk surge]

I really hope that the pace of updates will increase once they're done polishing the game. It feels a lot smoother now than it did before 4.0 and 4.1.

I very rarely encounter gamebreaking bugs these days. It used to happen so often before.

[velvet sand]

Would be nice to get bugfix/balance patches more often, especially once new content drops. Can't say I'm optimistic DICE is set up for it (though they crushed it last year with weekly patches in the 3 weeks post-launch...I miss that DICE) but I hope that's what they're doing now.

[silk surge]

It was probably because they had most of the team poured into those patches because of how crucial they were. The game was barely playable before that.

Now they probably have the teams split on billion different projects.

[wide shore]

Monthly updates worked a decade ago. But these days? No

[velvet sand]

I mean yeah, they've likely got a more traditional live-ops structure now with teams doing pre-production on content further out while others are working on full production for closer content and polish for imminent content. But like, they should be more "Settled" now that they've handled a huge number of bugs and are basically finishing development they didn't do pre-launch, which should at least set them up for a monthly bugfix/balance patch cycle.

New content every quarter and all which is fine, but I'm hopeful that they'll deliver non-content patches more quickly as well. Definitely needs to be faster responses to issues vs. what they did earlier this year basically not patching the game from Jan-April (March patch counts I guess, but it was basically just a scoreboard and that's it)

[drowsy sapphire]

Shiver me Timbers

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah i agree. some players are trash at battlefield

[silk surge]

Yeah, I'm hoping that the team will feel at least a bit settled soon. Haven't seen any signs of that yet unfortunately.

[velvet sand]

Hey, the May patch came pretty quick and (outside of killing 128p breakthrough) was largely pretty good. So that's something!

[arctic grove]

Some already are working on the next bf installment

[velvet sand]

It's undoubtedly in pre-production with a small team right now, but that's par for the course (for better or worse)

[arctic grove]

Im still pissed about them spending 3 years on 2042 and the game still came out half baked

No campaign either because they were focusing on multiplayer.

[sudden nimbus]

lol prime dropping a rao skin as if people actually play him

[edgy oriole]

they have been since 4.0 i think

or whichever one changed his ability i forget

[velvet sand]

Why would anyone not play the most handsome character of 2042?

[arctic grove]

he got a small buff and is actually useful now unlike boris

[sudden nimbus]

rao is ugly lol

most sexy character is dozer

[arctic grove]

Nah its boris

[velvet sand]

Rao is the most fuckable character on 2042, that's just science.

[edgy oriole]

once i found out he could hack drones so you could destroy them i fell in love. but now they fixed drones

[arctic grove]

We all know boris is a bear

[edgy oriole]

Rao is most handsome 2042 character. thats why he is face of the game

[sudden nimbus]

yeah, and they just gonna make boris more sexy

[arctic grove]

Its actually angel. Rao got cucked by Angel

[sudden nimbus]

angel got kicked in the balls with his armour nerf

[velvet sand]

They gave him around 15% more beard, so he's 15% sexier.

[arctic grove]

Angel is the face of bf2042 memes

[edgy oriole]

and rao is face of the actual game. i dont follow 2042 memes *other than the ones forced down our throats in this dc

[sudden nimbus]

angels abilities just give the small amount of ammo you get from killing players

[velvet sand]

He's a mobile ammo resupply, just like Falck is a mobile medkit. The nerf balanced his skill for the most part, though he could probably stand to have a few more charges/shorter cooldown on charges given the change.

[sudden nimbus]

im part of the camp to just revert the nerf and make the suply crate a new character

[velvet sand]

Naw man, his ability being 2 gadgets in 1 (ammo + armor) was fairly busted, especially compared to Falck only having 1 "gadget" for her ability. Plus armor is trash and IMO needs to be much less accessible in-game overall (good on Irish or whoever and on Angel revives, but tha'ts like, it)

[sudden nimbus]

you also get characters like sundance that are S tier because she has infinate grenades

[velvet sand]

It would be lame if she legit ran out quickly though, and wouldn't place her skill at the same level as other specialists who all (I believe?) have re-usable skills.

[sudden nimbus]

i mean, the fact angel gives armour on revive means its better for him to just let allies die then revive them

[velvet sand]

I agree that maybe it might need some overall balance, but that's for whenever DICE gets around to starting to work/communicate on specialists which...doesn't sound like that'll happen for quite a while longer at this point : /

[solid imp]

wait. I think you meant to reverse that logic?

[sudden nimbus]

imagine if specialists had to actually use ammo crates for abilites

so like makay gets like 5 charges on his grappling hook then has to replenish them

i think i only ever see 1 irish player once ever 5 games

[solid imp]

I see loads of Irish now that Angel isn't handing out invincibility to everyone

[sudden nimbus]

didnt you just say armour is not usefull?

[solid imp]

Armor is incredibly useful

You were saying it's better for Angel to let someone die than revive+give them armor 🙂

The fact it was so easy to acquire made ttk way higher on average

[velvet sand]

And on infantry-only CQ basically pressured you to either play Angel so you could have access to a gadget or use the armor gadget if you played as anyone else, if you wanted to have a remotely level playing field.

[sudden nimbus]

well now they removed it, the only time you want an angel is if you are soloing tanks

[velvet sand]

Or if you wanna play a medic that supplies ammo so you can pick something else as your gadget.

[solid imp]

Which really brings him back into balance. Like I said I see way more Irish now which helps to balance Sundance and infinite grenades since there will be more frequent shootdown sentries

If you really want to turn Angel into Falck just grab a med pen

[sudden nimbus]

outside running rockets, might as well run falck in all scenarios

the only time i ever need an ammo crate is when i have rockets

[solid imp]

Rao is underrated that way... you want to counter helicopters in a bottle neck like BT than throw a Rao or 2 onto defense who are actually hacking vehicles

especially now that boltes are armor class, putting more emphasis on the importance of air vehicles for assaulting

[sudden nimbus]

i only ever see irish getting more activity if they add a map like opperation locker

[solid imp]

Rao's range on hacking air vehicles is incredibly far, like 400m or something

[velvet sand]

Yeah...nowhere close. I think it's closer to like 150-200m, which is still a pretty damned solid range. Just lame that I don't think it stops flares from popping, so you can't quickly hack a passing helicopter to blow it up with your team.

(at least it hasn't seemed to when I played him)

[solid imp]

It doesn't suppress flares but it's further than 200m for sure (unless they dialed him back?)

[sudden nimbus]

in terms of recon characters, it feels like thematically casper and paik should flip passives

plus paik with caspers passive should help so you know there is an enemy near, activate to hunt them

[velvet sand]

Doing some quick web searching, it seems to vary. Ground targets have about a 100m range cap for his hack and air are somewhere close to 200m.

[solid imp]

Agreed ground range it's fairly useless how close you need to be

[sudden nimbus]

also if we wanna take bets on rough roll the new character will have, i would bet on either engineer or medic

[next onyx]

Honestly either assault or support.

[sudden nimbus]

assault already has sundance, mackay and dozer

[low timber]

Lol, shot the two passengers out from the super hind with the CG

[next onyx]

Rao isn't even recon which is funny. He's more of an engineer technically.

[velvet sand]

NEED MORE MEDICS

[shy latch]

damn, it's so hard to kill with a melee attack 😰

[next onyx]

Ehhh medics are criss crossed in support sooo.

[sudden nimbus]

i mean, his gadget is for spotting targets

[next onyx]

His gadget is best at disabling vehicles and operators gadgets.

It's also funny how quick you can hack people too.

[sudden nimbus]

they could just make a character have the repair drone from BF 4

i mean casper is really good at disabling tanks too

hell, sundance can just toss 3 emp grenades at a tank to bully it

[velvet sand]

I seriously hope we don't have to wait super long before the specialist feedback loop, now that they've at least announced it's delayed. I really, really, really am curious what their current plans are for them.

[next onyx]

That's a spotting mav drone basically, nothing else.

Might be really good as a c5 drone but that isn't the gadget itself.

[sudden nimbus]

specialist feedback loop?

[velvet sand]

yes, like the map one they did earlier. it was supposed to happen a month ago but DICE just got around to telling us it's been delayed because they still don't have an internal plan for what to do with specialists

[fallen yarrow]

I can't believe they still haven't fixed the C5 drone issue after saying that it will be addressed in Jan

[sudden nimbus]

the drone can emp a tank, so you from the safety of cover emp it then have your squad rocket it

[mental delta]

What do you mean by "what to do with specialists" ?

[sudden nimbus]

btw dont think i ever seen a dozer player, so wonder what they will do with him

if they just let you deploy his shield, that is irishes ability

[velvet sand]

How to update/improve them considering there's still a "general" dislike for the current execution, or at least lack of balance from it.

[celest oar]

will play Dozer more after I done grinding T1 for other specialist, I like his playstyle

[sudden nimbus]

i dont see them changing specialists dramatically... maybe more balance passes based on feedback on how strong/weak characters are

[mental delta]

I hope the next battlefield game will see the return of classes, however considering they won't suppress specialists in 2042 anyways, the only problem I have with them is that they don't look military enough for a military game

[velvet sand]

I'm still hoping they tone down the power of abilities considerably. I honestly don't think they can ever hope to achieve any kind of "balance" outside of that. Because specialist can be either wildly impactful or completely useless based on which ones are picked, what's going on on the battlefield, and of course user skill.

At the very least something to address the "Clone Wars" feeling we have with specialists now.

[mental delta]

Some cosmetics aren't immersive enough and other ones like the new Rao skin just have weird colors for a military game

[arctic grove]

True and it feels like a clone war than anything else.

[celest oar]

clone wars is the least concern thing in this game, why do people care about same type of character model running on the field

[arctic grove]

not when u dont have a clue if that angel or this angel is an enemy or not.

[shy grotto]

Doesnt even cross my mindm i just shoot at enemies.

[shy grotto]

Thats a you problem lol

[celest oar]

yeah just kill every enemies, problem solved

[arctic grove]

Alright if u say so since some in the fanbase feels the same way as i do.

[shy grotto]

Its really hard to notice the red highlights on their uniforms huh? :( feelsbad

[velvet sand]

How do you know if it's an enemy? Look for the red name above their head, or if you don't see that the glowstick. Because in the future, everyone carries glowsticks.

[arctic grove]

if i wanted to play with specialists i wouldve gone to apex or overwatch. i wanted to play with generic grunts with distinct military uniforms but i guess thats a brutal expectation.

[celest oar]

If you have the time to care about which type of characters to kill first then you must be far away or in a really safe place so spotting a specialist type in the clone war is really easy. Otherwise you will just shot at every red dot you saw on the screen don't even have time to consider.

[shy grotto]

I also pay attention to radar, so that helps

[arctic grove]

bro imagine if they release a glowstick as gadget in the future.

[next onyx]

Would be cool if instead of killing people with the shield you simply had to take x amount of damage on your shield.

[velvet sand]

That makes so much more sense for his progression. Makes it kinda easier to cheese as well, but it fits a lot more with his theme IMO.

[low timber]

Wtf, just killed 4 enemies by just hipfireing with the G57, I guess Fixing my FOV did something could also be that I swapped to subsonics.

[edgy oriole]

honestly stopping damage would make more sense, but ig they wanted more of a "challenge"

[low timber]

Not on a single mag ofc

[celest oar]

The pain when grinding Dozer when they haven't fix the issue with his shield, you will just got shot through the glass doesn't matter If it's anti tank sniper or not.

[low timber]

4 more Sfar kills to T1

[next onyx]

Yay!

[celest oar]

why don't you just pretend that the specialist gadget in this game is just like normal gadget but it's character locked? Paik ability is just sensor grenade with a little bit of improvement,...etc

it not like those ability are OP that give you auto aimbot and stuff like OW or endless stun

[sudden nimbus]

play arma

[velvet sand]

I mean, there is a halfway point between milsims like arma and arcade shooters like CoD or hero shooters a la R6S. BF tradtitionally filled that midpoint and still sorta does, though it's definitely taken a step more towards hero/arcade shooters with 2042.

[low timber]

Done!

[sudden nimbus]

... play squad

[low timber]

Lol, that was a great celebration, threw a frag nade and got a double.

[velvet sand]

I thought that was more milsim, no?

[sudden nimbus]

also edge, i for one like the removal of breakthrough 128

[velvet sand]

Cool, then I'll advocate for the removal of your favorite mode because I guess we're not supporting our fellow gamers being able to play the modes they enjoy in the games they were sold or something. Like, I think HZ is dogshit and a waste but I'm glad that DICE is keeping it around for the few folks that enjoy it instead of just killing it wholesale.

[uncut bay]

squad is far more milsim than arcade

[sudden nimbus]

didnt people say after feeback that 64 is much better than 128

plus now with 128 removed i actually find breakthrough games

[velvet sand]

I mean some folks like it, some folks don't. Not a good reason to remove it because "some folks don't" because like...some folks don't like every mode in the game lol. And the population issue is better solved by bringing players back/new players in, not killing modes to condense players into fewer modes.

[edgy oriole]

people that dont play 128 prolly say its better. doesnt mean it should be taken away from the people that actually liked it

[low timber]

Now that I have all SMGs, ARs and LMGs at T1 I need to figure out what attachments for what DMR.

[sudden nimbus]

DMR i tend to use ads grip, whatever scope you like for range then heavy barrel

3rd dmr i think is better if you imagine its a semi auto smg

[celest oar]

can't satisfied the whole community that like different things why not just cycle it weekly, that the best solution

[tacit sphinx]

bcg grip + warhawk compensator generally work for me

[sudden nimbus]

at least breakthrough is still playable

its not like they launched with a tug of war game mode then completely removed it

[tacit sphinx]

then just playing with scopes, i’m used to using the tv 2x on the dm7 and the ghost hybrid 4/1.5x on the svk

[edgy oriole]

im still waiting for frontline mode. they should since they turned my obj game mode into an ez ass tdm.

[sudden nimbus]

i mean i would rather they just have a dynamic offical servers that host 1 of each game mode in portal and just remove the all out war

so have 1 server up, once that is close to or at capacity open 2nd server

that way during low population hrs people can just join the 1 server up and high pop hrs there is like 5

[celest oar]

Just put every mode into one search button you can't chose mode, the game chose you

[ripe hedge]

What do you think of the size of the scopes on screen?

[uncut bay]

wasn't asked, but i find that some of the lower magnification scopes are very small, making it pretty hard to acquire targets and stay on them. Higher magnifications are fine imo since they cover much more of the screen

[sudden nimbus]

i have a problem with the scopes that darken the actual scope part

been times i swapped back to irons because the scope was so bad

[low timber]

On the Ghost Hybrid it would be nice if it wouldn’t have the blurry background when in 1.25x, as I sometimes don’t even know which magnification I have on.

[tacit sphinx]

yeah a couple of the lower magnification optics do feel a little small sometimes with the blur effect around them, although i don’t have any particular issues with it generally?

i will say that it would be nice if the XO smart optic or whatever it’s called (the 2x one) was on more weapons than the 3 or so it’s on currently

[sudden nimbus]

i think the russian 2x darkens the inside of the scope

[low timber]

I think it’s on only 3 weapons, K30, AC42 and PP-29

[tacit sphinx]

yeah

[mental delta]

BF4 and other BF were exactly like what he described so you are the one who is wrong here

[sudden nimbus]

i mean, can still just play bf4

i would say play portal if portal did not kick anyone in the shins if they wanted to play

[eternal orchid]

ive spent like 2 hours trying to get in multiplayer game just does a countdown and straight back to main menu any fixes for this issue ?

[sudden nimbus]

what is your local time?

[eternal orchid]

my local time ?

as in region ??

[sudden nimbus]

because i know here its 4am so all the all out war servers are dead

[eternal orchid]

im From the UK

its 7:40pm here

[sudden nimbus]

you already try relaunching game?

[eternal orchid]

yeah tried that many times

[tacit sphinx]

check that you have crossplay enabled? that tends to cause issues getting into a match because barely anyone turns it off

[sudden nimbus]

can also open origin (not ea client) and repair the game through that

not really battlefields fault but who in EA thought it was a good idea to launch the EA client without the basic features origin client has

[arctic grove]

EA moment

[velvet sand]

Man...glad I'm still sticking with Origin and haven't bothered with the EA app yet : |

[arctic grove]

its telling you to hop off

the game is sentient and aware of its misery

[edgy oriole]

look at the screenshot i sent you bitch

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

[still vault]

Do love the angry gnome

[arctic grove]

[edgy oriole]

[forest snow]

wonder what the odds are they release season 1 june 8th ? same time as another AAA reveal.

[low timber]

Quite reasonable

[velvet sand]

Wait, what's happening on the 8th?

[low timber]

Well, on 9th actually as that is a Thursday

[forest snow]

on the 8th a franchise who we shall not name in here but in short is a fish, has its next game reveal.

[low timber]

The only Early June Thursday’s are the 2nd and 9th.

[velvet sand]

aaahhhh, gotcha. I...hope they don't try to compete against that. Seems like a losing proposition for 2042 and not a great way to kick off S1.

[forest snow]

but will take some of the news and attention away.

[sudden nimbus]

doubt any senior devs actually read this chat but they need to put out a vote for players to actually decide if portal should give full progression regardless of what modifiers are active

[edgy oriole]

wtf is a fish. a fishing game?

[velvet sand]

Doubtful, it will just dilute media focus on the launch of S1 and, if anything, make comparisons to whatever is revealed unfavorable for BF. Give S1 it's own space where it's not competing against its biggest competition.

[forest snow]

would they start a season on a Thursday or Tuesday though surely a tues>

[velvet sand]

Up to them and how confident they are in the build/if they have any bank holidays for a long weekend before shipping it. I don't think they have set "days" that they release updates on, that can be pretty flexible.

[forest snow]

yea i have a guess at 14th June gives them a bit of time to try and hype it up but at this point I'm just desperate for new content mean dam! just put bundles in the store at this point!

[velvet sand]

Heh, I'm just hoping next week is the full content reveal so we can see what's in store.

[olive lake]

I've said this so many times about AI except the only difference is make it so if AI are enabled, you can't enable modifiers for full progression neither.

[edgy oriole]

Battlefield should add a random point game mode for conquest and BT

points being different with every server.

[sudden nimbus]

i can understand no progression from asymetrical modes

[olive lake]

I'll never understand it with AOW Solo/Co-op of all things though

Like if AI has to stay capped longer in portal, then so be it. But the core game mode shouldn't be capped.

[sudden nimbus]

thing is, if people wanted to get easy T1, they can just start up a private lobby TDM and feed kills

[olive lake]

Like there's just so many ways you can avoid people exploiting while providing a PVE experience to all.

[olive lake]

I'd agree if the AI had 1 HP and only a knife but if they have equally the same firepower as you, its even game in my eyes.

[edgy oriole]

bots are better than most regular players too

[olive lake]

Like one thing needs to be clear. You have two type of people who play PvE.

People who actually just wanna play PvE for fun and treat it like as if it were a PvP match but waaay more chill

[honest comet]

guys what is best operator to play with?

[olive lake]

Then you've got the farmers who'll find the best spot to kill the AI at a unfair position where the AI cannot get you and its one sided.

[edgy oriole]

i main falck bc i like being medic

[honest comet]

ah like overall

[olive lake]

Angel's a decent all rounder. Can provide ammo, revive people

[edgy oriole]

they all have their strengths and counters to each other. it depends tbh. if i had to guess maybe sundance for her mobility advantage.

[honest comet]

cool

im playin paike atm

but tbh her ability can be replaced with spotin throwable

[sudden nimbus]

paik i think is better just using her passive for spotting

only time i used my ability is when i fat fingered it, i think casper has a better ablity

[honest comet]

yeah

[next onyx]

Paik has free wallhacks is hilarious.

[wide shore]

Paik’s ability is super useful

[charred hemlock]

Who playing tho

[honest comet]

funny thing is i have better kdr with casper then her lol

[plucky pebble]

Paik with her ability to see who shot her was super useful

[fiery shoal]

i never understood this, theres directional damage queues, and ttk is fast enough that any decent player shooting you first should win anyway

how is paiks dmg taken ability useful for anything other than against shitty snipers?

[honest comet]

yep exactly lol

[edgy oriole]

paik ability too ez to counter. says location is found on my screen and i hold the only corner shell come at me from.

[honest comet]

yeah ppl know insta when they spoted

[plucky pebble]

Not if you got an ntw trying to get hit 1 shot

[honest comet]

so yeah its not like enemy doesnt know paik is there

[velvet sand]

This has kinda been my take, though in practice when I've played her I notice that often times I get cliped by random shots that spot enemies.

[fiery shoal]

unless they are within say 50m i dont get the point in caring about that

[honest comet]

paik ability would be op if enemy dont get biggest possible announcement as spoted on screen

[velvet sand]

It's kinda a nice perk for your team for long range shots, can highlight enemies for your snipers to take out.

[fiery shoal]

and if you got someone shooting you within 50m you should lose the fight anyway

ehh, super niche imo

[plucky pebble]

Not in tdm baby

[honest comet]

ppl also say about her wall hack when theres literally throwable that does same thing lol

[velvet sand]

Agreed, but it balances out with her actual wallhack ability kek

[fiery shoal]

did wallhack change? it was rather meh near launch and idk many people that ran her

[velvet sand]

You can at least shoot those pretty quickly and they take up a grenade slot.

[unborn crane]

yo

[fiery shoal]

howdy

[unborn crane]

make that battleified chat global

[honest comet]

well while u shoot it

[plucky pebble]

Fr

[velvet sand]

Well, it took a bit to unlock her at launch IIRC so there weren't a ton super early. But it's definitely strong, even if it gives enemies a warning that they've been scanned.

[honest comet]

other dude gonna shoot you lol

[wispy imp]

yeah facts, otherwise she op

[honest comet]

im actually affraid to use her ability

bcs when i do everyone just runs down for me lol

[plucky pebble]

Yeah also knowing where your enemy is most of the time you will win the fight

[unborn crane]

make that chat global and idc what you soy boy battlefield devs say against that

[velvet sand]

Don't be. Honestly most of the enemies you scan willl be baddies and not respond to being scanned properly, heh.

[honest comet]

wvery time i did use it 2-3 ppl would jump down into me

[velvet sand]

Ye. Even if they're aware you're just around the corner you still have an edge in that you can begin prefiring knowing where they are vs. them still needing to react

[honest comet]

thing is

u get spoted and u dont see ppl in front of u, u insta know its probs someone behind you

[velvet sand]

could be above you too

[honest comet]

true but depends where u located

[plucky pebble]

If theres like 10 people nearby and get the message 100% you are dead

[honest comet]

yep

thats why im affraid to use it lol

[next onyx]

People realised it wasn't as powerful as we all thought. It's a dumb ability anyways.

[honest comet]

basicly u make urself hunted lol

[next onyx]

Press button for easy spots.

People are gonna know you're there anyways when you start firing.

[plucky pebble]

As a aggressive paik its pretty easy to get kills you just activate it and the first wave scan probably you are not gonna react as fast so thats that

[next onyx]

Tier 1 Rao tomorrow here we come.

[fallen yarrow]

Will the issue with Paik is that wallhack is only good when there are walls/cover for enemies to hide behind.

Also, I'm pretty sure you're marked on the minimap when you activate the ability, so it negates the use of flanking...which is dumb

[arctic grove]

hi ladies

did they update maps yet?

[hearty flame]

Nope not until August

[arctic grove]

Nope until S1

[low timber]

Actually Paik gets minimap spotted as well when they activate their gadget.

Oh, it was already mentioned

[next onyx]

Kek.

Yeah I was adding onto that.

[radiant prism]

Remember back before launch when no one would stop spamming about how OP Paik was gonna be?

And now she's a mid tier specialist at best?

[fallen yarrow]

Yeah, which made sense given we saw a clip on manifest with her ability to see through cover. Then at launch we all spawned on wide open fields with no cover

[radiant prism]

I don't really think thats the balancing factor

[fallen yarrow]

That, and the minimap mark

[radiant prism]

I mean it is a factor but that's not really what makes her balanced

[fallen yarrow]

So yes, she's mid tier because there's not many places where her ability can be used well. Being able to see enemies through smoke is one of her main advantages right now, but it's not that overpowered.

Sundance is probably the only overpowered specialist right now

[topaz field]

new Amazon prime battelfiedl 2042 item drop Purple Rao

[forest snow]

Love getting hate mail from condor and hind abusers ha

[wide shore]

I don’t really feel like any specialist is OP rn

There’s definitely some I feel are underpowered

[honest comet]

is this true?

[silk surge]

It must really suck to be a DICE dev. All the hard work you put in, and you have people openly calling for you to be blacklisted from the industry.

[honest comet]

well just ignore those lol

there will always be haters that hate evrything

today ppl feel too much priviledged

[silk surge]

I hope they are. I would feel like shit.

[honest comet]

yeah thats why i praise them

for puttin hard work to make the game feel good

[radiant prism]

People wonder why DICE doesn’t want to communicate when this is what they have to put up with anytime they show up

And then will claim it’s their fault when you bring that point up

While it doesn’t absolve the overall industry of guilt, because there are legit issues, I’m tired of people pretending like the overall gaming community, both here and elsewhere, is INCREDIBLY toxic towards developers

[silk surge]

One of them said that it's a bit brutal to expect updates when everyone is on vacation after a big project release, and people are still mad about that.

[radiant prism]

And routinely take that quote out of context, which is quite literally why the tweet was taken down by the author

And yet people continue to bring it up, completely out of context.

[fallen yarrow]

I mean, DICE is not new to this. They're pretty tone-deaf when it comes to communication

[fiery shoal]

preach is gecc

[fallen yarrow]

Instead of apologizing for the state that they released the game in, they pretend like there's no problem

[fiery shoal]

100% not accurate...

[fallen yarrow]

Of course it's going to piss off fans and people who paid 100+ dollars for it

[fiery shoal]

the game is 60 bucks, paying extra doesnt give you access to more content or quality...

[radiant prism]

I don’t think they’re pretending like there’s no problem. All of their communication thus far has indicated to me that they intend to fix the problems we’re talking about

[fallen yarrow]

60$ or 100$ is besides the point

[uncut bay]

then why specify it yourself?

[fallen yarrow]

?

[fiery shoal]

just admit you picked a higher price to somehow make the case even more of a problem...

[uncut bay]

people love saying that they paid 50090000 $$$$ for the game as if it entitles them to anything other than the bonuses they paid for

[radiant prism]

Just because they don’t explicitly say “we fucked up” doesn’t mean they’re acting any different.

[fallen yarrow]

Because there are people that paid 100+ dollars for it?

[uncut bay]

but you just said it's besides the point

[fiery shoal]

which doesnt have any gauge to the current topic...

[uncut bay]

why bring cost into it at all

[fallen yarrow]

Yes, the point is that people paid money and got a broken product that was barely functional.

[radiant prism]

Also…shut the fuck up. I paid $100, and I’m not bitching incessantly, and have just as much right to talk as anyone else. Just because someone paid $100 and isn’t happy doesn’t mean their opinion means more when I and many others paid $100 and are fairly happy

[fallen yarrow]

Are you daft?

[silk surge]

I paid $240 lmao. 2 Ultimate Edition copies.

[fiery shoal]

the closest 2042 got to to actually being broken was a week into launch with bad hit reg and net coding, which was fixed fast

dumb design choices =/= broken

[silk surge]

Eh, it was pretty broken until 4.0 tbh.

[fallen yarrow]

No, it took over a month to fix those issues. There was plenty of Persistent Data Errors and being unable to spawn once you finally got into the match

[radiant prism]

There were problems with Persistence or whatever’s but that got fixed quickly as well

[honest comet]

yesterday i killed invisible dude lol

[fallen yarrow]

Watching the menu screen =/= playable for most people. Maybe it is for you...but not for most people

[fiery shoal]

how many people did this affect, for how long? because i dont recall that being a major issue for long here even though i got it myself too

[uncut bay]

game was broken to an extent yes, but most of what happened could be reasonably expected if people thought for a few seconds before hitting the pre-order button. Shame you couldn't do that, but crying over spilled milk will solve nothing. Give constructive criticism or give nothing at all

[silk surge]

I feel like I started a flamewar by accident. Can we just all agree that it must suck to be a DICE dev atm?

[fiery shoal]

you cant have a week of 5% of the population having problems here and there and say that the entire game is broken...

[honest comet]

i was like wtf goin on, dude was invisible runnin and shootin at me so i shot back at tracers spots, luckily he was close to me lol

[fallen yarrow]

I don't have exact numbers, but most of the people I played with and most of the discords im part of had this issue

[fiery shoal]

not your fault, vulcan clearly jumped in with a bad take that just usually goes well with the "lul 2042 bad" crowd, but that aint us

[edgy oriole]

the not connecting to EA servers only happened from 7pm-11pm everyday for me until it was fixed.

[scenic tartan]

Many of those r/antiwork people mocking DICE for taking a vacation 😂

[fallen yarrow]

Any proof on that 5% population stat? or are you the only one around to pull numbers out of your ass?

[fiery shoal]

by definition "most" is over 50%, highly doubt you did any sort of number crunching to make that claim

[arctic grove]

Any proof on that 5% population stat? or are you the only one around to pull numbers out of your ass?

[fiery shoal]

hypothetical, didnt think that needed explanation... unfortunately i forgot who i was talking to

[fallen yarrow]

You're the hypocrite. EDIT: You're a hypocrite

[radiant prism]

Yeah the persistence issue was pretty widespread. But if people don’t talk about BF4’s extreme netcode issues, there’s no point talking about the persistence issues

[scenic tartan]

You can watch lots of streamers not having the problem as well. It's not a widespread thing

[fiery shoal]

... and now you cant read? i said HYPOTHETICAL not hypocritical...

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/colbert-popcorn-popcorn-stephen-colbert-eat-popcorn-popcorn2020-gif-16075618

[honest comet]

can ppl just finally relax about this game

[arctic grove]

Nah it ruined their lives apparently

[radiant prism]

It’s an issue that existed, but no longer does. There’s zero point complaining about it now.

[fallen yarrow]

Apparently only 5% were affected, so not that widespread

[honest comet]

cryin about every single minor issue that doesnt even matter

[silk surge]

All I can say is that the game runs super smooth for me on PS5 atm. The only gamebreaking glitch I've seen since 4.0 is the extremely rare invisible enemy glitch, and even then they'll appear as a floating red dot.

[arctic grove]

2042 ruined me sike

[radiant prism]

Don’t know why you’re bringing it up with me when I agreed with you that it was a pretty widespread issue…

[honest comet]

same here, almost no bugs

[fiery shoal]

how petty do you gotta be to still spread this number even after i clarified it was hypothetical..

[arctic grove]

He’s being defensive lol

[honest comet]

and it looks and feels amazing

[fallen yarrow]

@fiery shoal you should just block me and move on. It's impossible to have a conversation/debate with you

[wide shore]

Must.resist.urge.to.cry.over.spilled.milk

[fiery shoal]

ditto.. though i assume most reasonable people wont say im the problem in this situation..

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/thurston-waffles-meow-scream-glowing-eyes-cat-gif-15740056

[honest comet]

@fallen yarrow u should just stop tho

[wide shore]

Can we instead talk about something that does affect the game right now? Like the Series X framerate problems.

[arctic grove]

Vulcan angy

[fallen yarrow]

@honest comet you can take the same advice and block/ignore

[honest comet]

thats why u dont buy xbox

u have issues my friend

[arctic grove]

Or not be annoying

[wide shore]

That’s not helpful

[honest comet]

kinda is lol

[fiery shoal]

basically vulcan only wants other meme kids that want to echo chamber with him to reply to him...

[radiant prism]

My experience was pretty overwhelmingly positive on XSX for the time I used it

[silk surge]

It's funny how Xbox are having performance issues while PS5 haven't had any since launch. Considering that almost every battlefield trailer has had that Xbox promo.

[fallen yarrow]

Again, keep assuming stuff

[arctic grove]

This

[honest comet]

lol im not even arguin

[fiery shoal]

how am i assuming when you are telling reasonable people to block you just because they disagree with you?

[wide shore]

Saying I shouldn’t play it on Xbox isn’t helpful at all. It should not be an issue at all.

[arctic grove]

?

[honest comet]

u said to me to stop bein annoyin

[arctic grove]

That was for Vulcan

[honest comet]

oh my bad lol

[arctic grove]

[edgy oriole]

[wide shore]

It’s not even a problem on the S. Just the X

[silk surge]

Tell him that I said 'Brutal Expectations steam chart tactical beanie', he'll know what it means.

[arctic grove]

Get the popcorn ready

[fiery shoal]

he blocked you?!

[edgy oriole]

I cant. im out and i cant get any bc i got covid

[arctic grove]

[radiant prism]

Order some

[silk surge]

Nah, probably not. It just made more sense to pull that joke as a reply to you

[fallen yarrow]

I said block/ignore not because you disagree...because it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion. I don't mind listening to conflicting view points, but you keep implying stuff that other people aren't even saying ...just to suit your own narrative. So it's pointless, since you refuse to accept that you're ever wrong

[radiant prism]

Or have someone pick some up for you

[fiery shoal]

oh lol

[edgy oriole]

no delivery except dominos in my area

[radiant prism]

Damn

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-very-sad-anyway-loki-sad-loki-gif-22079369

[obsidian zinc]

I'm pretty okay with the mentioned S1 changes, but I definitely missed some info on Portal.

[silk surge]

Isn't X the better version?

[wide shore]

I mean, it has higher resolution. But at what cost

[fiery shoal]

we were having a reasonable discussion, youre the one that started trying some cute "gotcha" shit. i gave a hypothetical and you gave an actual guess, then applied some petty response to me trying to one up me. ive only implied something AFTER you told me to block you too, the chain of events doesnt even add up...

vulcan the type of person to go up to a teacher and say "that guy told me to fuck off", when vulcan told him to fuck off first

[wide shore]

I swear to god, every time I play Manifest, Hourglass or Discarded, I get game ruining frame stutters. Sometimes it just does a quick freeze like it’s gonna crash, and it goes away. Sometimes it’s frequent and consistent stuttering that lasts 10 or so minutes.

It is not a network issue. It is the game.

[silk surge]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-marvel-small-price-pay-for-salvation-gif-14748250

[fallen yarrow]

@fiery shoal you really are insufferable

[fiery shoal]

if thats what you want to call it, better than whatever you are imo

[radiant prism]

The moment you've resulted to ad hominem, the argument's over.

[whole obsidian]

What's going on here???????

[still vault]

@fallen yarrow and @fiery shoal lets just stop that conversation and move on.

[plucky pebble]

Same but i only get the internet icons

[wide shore]

I don’t get network icons at all. And my ping is always sub 25

[fallen yarrow]

You show some semblance of intelligence, but as soon as someone criticizes BF2042 or DICE for issues they've been having...you just get all riled up and start pulling stuff out of your ass to try and look smart

[silk surge]

Same old. 2042 hater vs 2042 enjoyer clash.

[edgy oriole]

imma order pizza again since i cant get anything else.

[fallen yarrow]

ok

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-gloves-slap-gif-17514643

[plucky pebble]

Pretty stupid tbh and if it was like becuz of slow hdd but i have it on a ssd

[arctic grove]

[solar minnow]

putting this game on HDD is a bad idea.

[wide shore]

Funny thing is, Nyphon doesn’t even like 2042. Or at least, didn’t.

[solar minnow]

anyone still excited for S1?

[silk surge]

I have no idea what this gif is trying to say, but it made me chuckle.

[edgy oriole]

its calling bf dead

[silk surge]

Well, I'm still here after 8 months, so very much yeah.

[plucky pebble]

Not the way its structured, i had low expectations but its worse

[radiant prism]

bet

[solar minnow]

I mean atleast it's something

[arctic grove]

I’m thinking the 100 melee damage needed for the weekly challenge could easily be done with one dozer shield hit

[radiant prism]

I love how this guy's so mad at Nyphon over 2042 when he's stated numerous times that he doesn't even like 2042 that much

[plucky pebble]

Oh no

[fiery shoal]

i havent had it installed for 5 months...

[solar minnow]

it's called being in denial.

[arctic grove]

Makes sense since the shield is a one hit kill. We’ll see

[silk surge]

Ok last one

[plucky pebble]

White knight chad

[solar minnow]

You think we'll hear the update next week?

[arctic grove]

Probably in 2. Or right before it drops in 3.

No clue, gotta wait on DICE

[plucky pebble]

We better have a nice battlepass or itll be boring

[silk surge]

Look at this rendezook I did today.

[arctic grove]

More of an AR guy myself, but i guess it’s time to grab the K30 for this challenge

Kaleidoscope 128 is actually cool, I always love that map the most when it’s busy raining

[opaque oracle]

Sad the 128 BT is gone

[arctic grove]

City map and raining =

[edgy oriole]

same

[arctic grove]

I wonder if it’ll come back as a “limited time” game mode

[opaque oracle]

I can’t load into a game….

[edgy oriole]

prolly not. that would give the player a choice again.

[arctic grove]

[plucky pebble]

Yep

[opaque oracle]

Bruh

I had cross play turned off no wonder I can’t join a match💀

[arctic grove]

Yeah that’ll get you sometimes

[plucky pebble]

Fuck limited modes why cant we have rush as permanent or tdm

[arctic grove]

honestly no clue but i guess its got to do with the playercount

[wide shore]

Rush is coming as a main mode

[sudden nimbus]

just add the "limeted modes" in the custom host screen

[arctic grove]

although personally ive never liked tdm or rush in battlefield anyways

[edgy oriole]

i want frontline

[wide shore]

Same. Unless it was Noshahr tdm in BF3

[plucky pebble]

L take

Just joke but still what i think would be better is conquest but infantry only thats better than rush or tdm for sure

[arctic grove]

oh, my bad then man

almost got a dozer melee kill but this casper had to be so reluctant to let me kill him

[sudden nimbus]

i still am curious how a hardline map would be in 2042

[river trench]

I just want to see season 1 goddammit

[plucky pebble]

Any bf map is better than any 2042 and being hardline probably good

[arctic grove]

[sudden nimbus]

i mean the city map with the bank... feel like tanks would get dogged hard but an infantry dream

[orchid root]

Rush is becoming permanent i think soon

[edgy oriole]

got pizza and a chicken parm sandy

[copper fulcrum]

I'll take Kaleidoscope over Shanghai tbh

[plucky pebble]

Exactly

[copper fulcrum]

Thing is, there can't be jets in Hardline unless they were extended or something

[sudden nimbus]

well not all maps in hardline were tiny

[plucky pebble]

well in 2042 jets are practically useless so

[copper fulcrum]

Dustbowl or whatever that one was called was quite large

They're really good for destroying vehicles

[wide shore]

People say 2042 doesn’t have destruction clearly never played dust bowl

Full of tiny houses everywhere, and you couldn’t blow up any of them

[copper fulcrum]

Meanwhile hourglass, it feels like all of those buildings in the south west can be levelled

[wide shore]

Because they can be

[sudden nimbus]

is that the D objective, where you need to stand in a field with 2 hills and can get shot from any building around it

its not even good for vehicles to cap it because anti tank guys just camp the buildings with rockets

[plucky pebble]

thats were ptsd comes from i hate that point

[dapper leaf]

Smg rush says 16v16 I go in and it's 64 man? Anyone else?

[sudden nimbus]

just use some assets from kilidoscope and coat them with sand for that objective

[tame cobalt]

Hot take: 2042 season 1 should've been delayed to at least 1 year after launch

[sudden nimbus]

add hard cover

[wide shore]

Lol, no

[sudden nimbus]

adding seasons will not stop them from continuing to improve player experience

[fiery shoal]

i think TECHNICALLY they had to at least release in the first year by the loose definition of year 1

[wide shore]

It’s already been long enough.

[tame cobalt]

Oof

[plucky pebble]

Cleanest L take of all takes on 2042

[sudden nimbus]

lol storm saw you quoted me first like ???

[fiery shoal]

i hate misquotes

[copper fulcrum]

misquotes suck

[plucky pebble]

maybe it was meant for you

[copper fulcrum]

oh shit sorry, I meant this one

[plucky pebble]

lmao

[fiery shoal]

someone sends a message .01 seconds before you click reply xD

[tame cobalt]

6 or so months is not enough time to get the game in the right state for a successful soft relaunch, which is what's needed

[copper fulcrum]

I wonder when the Season 1 Trailer gets shown

[plucky pebble]

well at this point bf4 had already 3 dlc's which each dlc had 4 maps so

[fiery shoal]

bf4 also was barely becoming generally functional at this point...

[tame cobalt]

well that game had different problems

[sudden nimbus]

im still hoping for a conquest tug of war mode

[plucky pebble]

but we had maps

[copper fulcrum]

Unplayable maps

[fiery shoal]

yea but at the same time, could you imagine the shit storm if 2042 did that? sold a game and 3 dlc map packs to a game not functioning...

[copper fulcrum]

The first DLC launched pretty badly as crashes were still a thing but even more so for those maps

[fiery shoal]

people are mad we are getting free maps late and specialists are in the game.. those are minor woes vs what bf4 pulled

[sudden nimbus]

playing portal i dont think i got infinate loading bug

unless that was a UI error and it wasnt loading the waiting for players screen

[plucky pebble]

unplayable maps well we could say the same with 2042 and well the game functions not like we want but it works

[fiery shoal]

id take a shitty dumb car that works vs a car that doesnt

[sudden nimbus]

was it because not many people got dlc for new maps or were dlc maps for 4 not liked?

[fiery shoal]

im not exactly sure what youre asking...

[arctic grove]

I dont think dice is not gonna waste time with a s1 trailer

[sudden nimbus]

i just dont remember seeing many servers with dlc maps for 4

no doubt people will want opperation locker for 2042

[fiery shoal]

i wonder how much a trailer costs for them to make...

[plucky pebble]

cuz you had to buy the dlc's

[copper fulcrum]

If Battlefield V got trailers for every season, then 2042 will get them too

[arctic grove]

exactly why they wont. Too much waste of time and money

[sudden nimbus]

S1 tralier likely will be gameplay screenshots

[fiery shoal]

im so glad we are past paid for major content, even if that does mean the live service is a bit lackluster like bfv/2042

[tame cobalt]

Thing is people still wanted to play bf4 because they actually found it fun

[topaz field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Opi1Vkje4

[fiery shoal]

bf4 > 2042 without a doubt, but people seem to disregard/downplay bf4's legitimately huge problems because "lul 2042 bad"

[copper fulcrum]

I can't really go back to BF4 tbh

[fiery shoal]

"bf4 didnt work for 6 months, 2042 worked at launch"
"yea but at least bf4 didnt have specialists"

[sudden nimbus]

"omg i dont like specialists" then play bf 4

[plucky pebble]

well what i think it works nice is having a year 1 pass thats like 20 bucks and you get each season the battlepass plus some other content while the ones that didnt pay still get like maps and the free battlepass

[fiery shoal]

thats one i dont get... specialists were announced well before launch... why did people still buy it if they already hated specialists?

[tame cobalt]

I think it's harder for an unfun game to bounce back to success than a fun game that people were waiting to be able to play

[fiery shoal]

for sure, theres a brighter light at the end of the tunnel, i still dont get people forgetting about the mess bf4 was though

[honest comet]

i think ppl just boring lol

[plucky pebble]

specialist are nice whats not nice are the voicelines

[sudden nimbus]

when i saw specilists i was thinking it will just be class locked butspecialists will get a unique version of a gadget

[fiery shoal]

specialists dont stop locked loadouts though

[sudden nimbus]

so locked to medic stuff but you get stim pistol

[fiery shoal]

you can 100% make locked loadouts WITH specialists

[sudden nimbus]

doesnt that require scritping?

[fiery shoal]

imo dice didnt do locked loadouts because they lack weapon variety/count to fill out classes

[plucky pebble]

hoping to get at that point in 2042 🙏

[sudden nimbus]

part of that is they spent so much time making new assets for historical stuff

[tame cobalt]

but ye i personally find the game quite fun outside of map/mode issues

[fiery shoal]

100% me too, i dont like open loadouts for bf

i like navigating the battle field with my own forced set of pros and cons

not this scenario where i can just make my perfect soldier and swap out almost on the fly to deal with anything i cant in the moment

[plucky pebble]

for real like theres 0 engineers like nobody uses the torch

[tame cobalt]

i played this game with my friend once, i was surprised how easy it is to dominate the battlefield when you communicate with someone

[plucky pebble]

runs k30 with ammo and motion sensor

[fiery shoal]

squad play in 2042 is actually great, solo though... yeesh

had a squad of 4 that we kept spawn hopping on hourglass BT behind the enemy, huge flanks

[tame cobalt]

Noice

[sudden nimbus]

found out a new bug

so on high ping after you use a armour plate and auto swap back to primary, it will shoot for moment

[tame cobalt]

high ping moment

[iron blade]

Question, is the character model of the pilot in the reveal trailer even in the game

During like the helicopter and rendezook sequence

[iron blade]

Very true, because remarkably, there is such thing as too much freedom of choice in a video game

[sudden nimbus]

wait, did the dozer mask ever make it to game?

[fiery shoal]

i belive open vs closed loadouts is a matter of personal choice though

[iron blade]

They should just do what bf4 did, have universal and restricted weapon types

[fiery shoal]

well, except for the bf franchise which has predominately been a closed loadout system afaik

[iron blade]

If the specialist “reworks” showcased a while ago only turn out to be the tone changes they showed, then im gonna be very disappointed

If u arent going to rework them, just give us more freedom in portal so we can make our own 2042 class system

[velvet sand]

Supposedly there's more, but DICE said they're still in the early stages and aren't ready to share for a while.

[iron blade]

Ohhhh ok

[sudden nimbus]

i do wonder how much season 1 will bring

[iron blade]

Ye must’ve not seen that part of the article

[sudden nimbus]

i think on launch will just be new map and battle pass including the 2 weapons/vehicles and opperator

[iron blade]

So far only 1 new map, undetermined amount of guns, and 1 new specialist. Along with the reworks

[velvet sand]

It was in the video, somewhere in the middle the spent a minute vaguely talking about the feedback loop being delayed and that specialists aren't going anywhere but they do have plans.

[sudden nimbus]

late s1 they said will have rework map

[velvet sand]

rework* it's just Kaleidoscope, Renewal rework got pushed to s2

[iron blade]

Oh damn yah, i forgor the delay

[sudden nimbus]

nah its a new map set in canada

[velvet sand]

SUPPOSEDLY, it's probably the datamined map but DICE haven't officially confirmed (Exposure?)

[iron blade]

Whats with dice and delays, they are a AAA company with different branches working on the same product. Even other studios are helping. Why do they feel like they cant get shit done at all

[sudden nimbus]

and kaleidoscope rework is still like 2-3 months into s1

[velvet sand]

The past is the past and they're trying to make up for past mistakes, but it's slow going. Just hoping that the "we've learned our lessons" comments actually are true for whatever the next BF game is

[sudden nimbus]

in game development having more workers can make things slower

so 1 artist will finish his task of making the next twitch prime skin then he sits at his desk for 3 hrs waiting for his boss to aprove it and give next task

[velvet sand]

That's...unlikely and just bad process/planning. Approvals take time, yes, but those approval times are/should be built into planning to ensure folks have plenty to keep busy rather than waiting days for their boss to respond to something.

[sudden nimbus]

what i mean is 1 manager can have 20+ workers under them

[iron blade]

Idk man, i have stopped trying to get my hopes up regarding this stuff. Too many times have i been disappointed with dice

With dice i keep my expectations low to ground

[sudden nimbus]

and that manager would need to talk to other managers to understand what assets they need to make

for example they can have like 20 different pistols they are playtesting all using a placeholder

[echo yew]

remind me why in the fuck does the scout helo have a rocket machinegun

[sudden nimbus]

because i have no idea how to fly a heli

[echo yew]

who thought the agile as fuck scout helicopter having rocket launcher machineguns was a good idea

[velvet sand]

Yes, this is all basic development and approval pipelines. Shit that's been a core part of gamedev planning for decades, especially as teams have grown larger and games more complicated : P

[sudden nimbus]

yeah, and for some reason there are bunch of players out there that dont understand there is humans that take time to create things in a game

[grave prism]

is aow dead eu ? keep getting put in waiting for 31 players lmao

[sudden nimbus]

so even after devs say "yeah we gonna add this weapon"

just on artist side you have them need to spend a week if they are fast to create a model and texture for the gun, next week animating the gun, week after going back to replace a texture... spending 2 weeks making the basic progression skins of the gun

not to mention the 2 weeks they spent drawing several stages of concept art