battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

Tell that to woke dice, they spent more time lecturing us about the non binary sundance than making a good game

[stone cradle]

how does that got to do with the game

[timid latch]

WW3 for a free to play game is certainly acceptable

[arctic grove]

I remember all the marketing

now they cope

[timid latch]

If you bought it before you can play again with better movement system so that is a thing

I mean of course it’s a similar situation as with battlefields

[rocky ether]

yea but its worse then it was before the overhaul now its sjut a shell of its former self before the upodate it felt beefy exsiting but i sdjut felt empty playing it after the update

[timid latch]

You can’t really tell how it’s gonna turn out, but in opposition to the 2042 it’s a project of different magnitude right,

[timid latch]

What are u referring to?

[rocky ether]

iv been playing crowz relly enjoyed it

[arctic grove]

my point

[rocky ether]

ww3 was out a whole ago then they took it of store and took a few years and did a over haul and it feels plain and no sopul in it

[timid latch]

The new animations are not really eye candy, but I think they are certainly better than what we had before

[eternal storm]

erm, i just got into a brand new game on conquest of ages, and my team owned all the objectives already...noone with any kills or captures

[timid latch]

Like arms disappearing while sprinting wasn’t really modern like

[arctic grove]

BF3 has better animations

🤣

This is taken from Kotaku. [A journalist company?] The comment made me wheeze.

[arctic grove]

🤣

[rocky ether]

its not the look of them,i care about i want to play with a wing suit on any character

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove we're owning them

Cry more Libs -Mackay

[rocky ether]

not forced to be a chick

[arctic grove]

Mackay was too soy

[arctic grove]

Especially when they're forcing you to be sundance

jesus christ she has nothing for her

[brittle forge]

I saw a comment along the lines of “Boris’s beard is not the problem, the problem is I can play Boris and get killed by Boris while three Boris turrets and two other Borises look on”

[arctic grove]

💯

[rocky ether]

i sjut wanna play with the equipment i want with the charcter i choose

[arctic grove]

Just let them figure it out in 1 year they will abandon the game

[dapper river]

yo as long as any of the skins they plan on adding don't look like this utter TRASH, I'll be a happy lil camper

[arctic grove]

forcing representation

[arctic grove]

I had the catgirl

Then I had a long discussion with God

[rocky ether]

ok hows this for melle animations wingsuit flys down towards enemy you go close to the ground with a knife equiped boom knife to the chest another you have a rocketlauncher equiped okay use that rocket launcher as a baseball bat

[desert elbow]

“Forcing” it’s literally 3 specialists out of 10

[timid latch]

I wonder whether we gonna receive any portal content, or if we only gonna get all out warfare maps?

[wide violet]

Angry Joe review of the recent dev video is funny

[timid latch]

I wonder whether dice looks at those chats from time, to time

[arctic grove]

I identify as a jigsaw

[timid latch]

If they do no hard feelings, but it really doesn’t look good for this game.

[stone cradle]

There's literally only one specialist who's not straight

[arctic grove]

You're a clown but a cool clown

[arctic grove]

cope

I only speak truth my guy. As a clown i have nothing to hide or hold back.

[arctic grove]

3 out of 10 it's still forcing

[stone cradle]

you should be coping because you're the one who's complaining lmao

[solar minnow]

🤡

[wide shore]

This guy again

[timid latch]

I can agree that Günter is indeed god like

[arctic grove]

I don't have the game I just hope the next one will be normal and great

[arctic grove]

Yoo sup poetic

[wide shore]

Ayyy

[arctic grove]

@wide shore is it a last of us pfp?

[wide shore]

Yes

[arctic grove]

probably gonna hop on 2042 later tonight if u wanna play n chill

[arctic grove]

rip

[fiery shoal]

oh no, he was complaining about sundance... now he sees TLOU...

[wide shore]

More unrelenting nonsense on its way

[arctic grove]

💀 I will resist the urge

[fiery shoal]

imagine thinking youre cool...

[wide shore]

I’ll probably be on around 10. Rasslin is on tonight.

[arctic grove]

Who says that?

We are all cool if you think about it. We all chill in bf 2042 chat.

[solar minnow]

that's pretty harsh man

[copper fulcrum]

There's no orientation given in any bios or anything in game

[arctic grove]

Only with sundance

[fiery shoal]

cant put it any other way for someone who thinks being meme cringe vs light inclusion is something to be proud of...

[arctic grove]

It's not at all

[copper fulcrum]

I don't think they/them is exactly a gay/straight thing

[stone cradle]

Indeed, the blessed person makes me rethink my existence.

[arctic grove]

if i remember correctly but correct me if im wrong about it.

[copper fulcrum]

I'll re-read their bio and shit but I don't see anything about dating or a partner lol

[solar minnow]

I can see it that way.

[rocky ether]

i dont care if there gay bi or fucking unicorn i sjut wanna play as a dude and have the wing suit lol

[arctic grove]

Light? How many nationalities do we have in 2042?

[copper fulcrum]

10

[arctic grove]

thanks

[copper fulcrum]

More than Battlefield V which was World War 2

[stone cradle]

I'm pretty sure it said Sundance is they/them or something in the meet the specialists video DICE released.

[arctic grove]

true

[arctic grove]

LMAO i wanted to play as boris and have a wingsuit at the same time 😭

[copper fulcrum]

They/Them doesn't really change anything about 'straightness'

[arctic grove]

🤣

[copper fulcrum]

That massive guy in a wingsuit lol

[wide shore]

There isn’t. Sundance is just non-binary. Nothing about their sexual orientation.

[solar minnow]

do you guys think the next specialist will fit the mood better??

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah so I don't see why the words 'not straight' are being used

[arctic grove]

But we can all agree boris is now a sexy russian bear after his glow up.

[wide shore]

Always was

[arctic grove]

degens

Yeah but more now.

[copper fulcrum]

Boris the type of guy to read you a bed time story with a deep laughter once he closes the book

[wide shore]

Real handsome squidward energy

[arctic grove]

LMAO who you like?

[stone cradle]

Mackay with a wingsuit would be too OP

[pine roost]

I feel the same way, inclusion and representation is great, but I personally would rather be able to customise my soldiers how I please. Voices, outfits, faces etc.

[copper fulcrum]

Especially after the redesign

[rocky ether]

not if you replace his ability with the wing suit

[copper fulcrum]

Wingsuit and a Grappling Hook is possible in the portal editor.

[solar minnow]

new boris looks like a knock off stallone lol

[arctic grove]

I don't like, it's war in the story of the game, YOu kill people, BF is not romance

[copper fulcrum]

A Russian Stallone

[arctic grove]

Ok fair but russian

[copper fulcrum]

There's not even a fucking love interest at all in the game lmao

[solar minnow]

yeah

[fiery shoal]

i dont think you understand what non binary means...

[arctic grove]

Yeah we know there isnt love interest in the game.

[arctic grove]

I'm not talking about that cat

[solar minnow]

that would be funny if specialist had love interest on the battlefield lmao

[stone cradle]

Oh, never knew that

[copper fulcrum]

Or are we against having a story in a video game

[rocky ether]

and what has the sexual orintation or gender got to do with a war game?

[arctic grove]

But we all heard the expression: love blooms in the battlefield

[fiery shoal]

what are you talking about with romance?

[stone cradle]

He will never be as great as concept art daddy Boris

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah you can give players certain specialist equipment through the editor. Force them as Sundance, give them the Grappling Hook. Bam.

[wide violet]

I love that this discord will forever be a shit show

[arctic grove]

guess it out

[arctic grove]

I have to agree on that.

[copper fulcrum]

You can even make it so that when the grappling hook starts reloading, it instantly reloads through the editor

[fiery shoal]

if you think 2 lines of text is detrimental to a game.. idk what to tell you

[arctic grove]

I want my little soldiers from bf4 back

[solar minnow]

all the concept art specialist look a million times better.

[stone cradle]

Give me concept art Boris you cowards

[copper fulcrum]

Fragile Masculinity comes to mind

[solar minnow]

they had it right the first time.

[fiery shoal]

theres a ton of options.. all of them are sad

[arctic grove]

Concept art Paik was wow

[copper fulcrum]

Exactimundo

[arctic grove]

I loved it.

[solar minnow]

yeah she looked so much better

[stone cradle]

If they put shades on the new Mackay It would make him much better tbh, just like his concept art self

[copper fulcrum]

Paik is an olympic ice skater but I don't know if she has any voice lines that reference that so I don't think it matters lol

[arctic grove]

i was head over heels for concept paik

[solar minnow]

the specialist now look like stereotypes.

[stone cradle]

concept Paik legitimately looks Korean to me, the Paik we have now, not so much.

[arctic grove]

To be fair its not a stereotype. Rao looks exactly like someone from India would look like.

[copper fulcrum]

I swear this guy is trying to find a reason for being 'right' but keeps failing and getting all of his reasons wrong. Or he's just a bigot.

[arctic grove]

chinese knock off paik. [i joke]

[fiery shoal]

i like the edit, because thats what im thinking

[copper fulcrum]

Hivemind

[stone cradle]

True, also, Rao's original lines made him sound far from Indian, so they got a new guy with somewhat of an Indian accent I believe.

[rocky ether]

i think paik has a dick

[copper fulcrum]

'WHAT'S MY PASSWORD'

[solar minnow]

You think they'll fix the condor and hind now that they moving towards 64 players.

[stone cradle]

Hello your computer has virus

[copper fulcrum]

It's the year 2042, but that's also not game changing, so I don't care if she does or doesn't.

[fiery shoal]

i dont like "forced inclusion" if its detrimental... but literally you kind of have to go out of your way to find out sundance is non binary, and then that information does nothing to the game at all. its easily not detrimental and anyone actually complaining about it has some problems they should sort out irl

[arctic grove]

which makes sense and im glad they did that.

[cedar turtle]

You ate a whole lotta that and a bag of potato chips

[rocky ether]

im taking the piss chill out ya dunce lol

[copper fulcrum]

Also two black people out of 10. One is American and one is French. Not exactly that type o' forced

[copper fulcrum]

I know lol

[stone cradle]

We need a German guy, give us old Günter as a new specialist

[copper fulcrum]

We do have a German woman who does have a nice voice

[rocky ether]

i dont care what she is jsut give us the choice of who to play with what equipment the characters dont need to have there own mechanics in a battlefield game

[copper fulcrum]

Falck sounds like she's either going to Suplex me or is giving me medicine

[arctic grove]

They might add a german guy in a future specialist release.

[copper fulcrum]

inb4 British guy

[arctic grove]

She honestly sound like my war veteran grama

she was a medic ironically.

[stone cradle]

Just put in Adam or whatever his name was, his lines in BFV are hilarious lmao.

[copper fulcrum]

[cedar turtle]

You bob for apples in the toilet, and you like it

[fiery shoal]

"and what has the sexual orintation or gender got to do with a war game?"

sure seems like you care

[arctic grove]

LMAO

[stone cradle]

Lmao

[rocky ether]

jesus christ i said i sjut want to play as a dude with a wing suit sexual oritation shoudl have fuck all to do with it i sjut want to play as a dude

the guy that has a wing suit can have a fanny on his face for all i care lol jsut i aint a simp that always wants to play as a chick

[arctic grove]

You can't talk with the mob

[timid latch]

I heard that the next specialist is going to be of polish nationality

[arctic grove]

They're the virus of the civilization

[copper fulcrum]

I mean that sounds nice

[cedar turtle]

We argue about the dumbest shit

[rocky ether]

its like you dont liek this so you must be reacist or sexist its like na geezer i sjut want to play as who i want to fucking play as lol

[timid latch]

Surely gonna give her if it’s true of course a Russian accent

[wide violet]

nah. the next specialist will be a playable ranger

[copper fulcrum]

honestly that would be a fun side mode lol

[timid latch]

The one with rc car?

[fiery shoal]

not caring about the gender of a made up videogame character that doesnt change the game at all with that information is being a part of a mob and a virus? thats some weird logic

[copper fulcrum]

Last Ranger Standing

[copper fulcrum]

EN GARDE

[wide violet]

angry ranger noises

[rocky ether]

now after all that swearing ill probly be cointacted by the snowflake police lol

[stone cradle]

That honestly sounds nice. Eastern European guys could use with some representation.

[fiery shoal]

i wouldnt jump to those conclusions, but i really dont comprehend how that could bother you at all...

[copper fulcrum]

We play the game for the gameplay mechanics, I don't really care the gender of the person I am playing as.

But damn I will make sure I look fly as hell as I do a backflip over your tank as it blows to kingdom come.

[stone cradle]

don't give them ideas

[cedar turtle]

We need us some Lizzos as operators

[timid latch]

Shit don’t think about it that way

[stone cradle]

Next thing you'll know it, Boris's turret will be a playable specialist

[cedar turtle]

Watch out for the big girls

[rocky ether]

so some people prefer to play as a dude right some a chick some dont care im sjut a guy that likes to play as a guy thats all it is i dont get why its hard to undetstand

[wide violet]

hitbox would be too large, ill see myself out

[copper fulcrum]

Honestly, I'd rather have Boris's turret be Manually/Remote Operated rather than automated/sentry

[rocky ether]

its like why do you prefer fps games over rpg jsut because its you taste right

[fiery shoal]

yes theres preferences, and then seemingly getting ACTUALLY angry about it...

[rocky ether]

people was lituraly trying to tie it to issue with sexuality

[stone cradle]

Yes.. This. a deployable controllable sentry sounds way better, and actually promotes team play.

[timid latch]

Who is the most serious specialist

[arctic grove]

Discord moment

[timid latch]

Casper or Espinoza

[stone cradle]

Irish and casper ig

[copper fulcrum]

Irish I'd say

[arctic grove]

Casper

[wide violet]

Irish hands down

[copper fulcrum]

Espinoza laughs a lot and makes some remarks

[fiery shoal]

only major anderson did that because he seemingly doesnt know the difference between the 2

[solid imp]

Literally just got on first time today in time for this. I can leave now. Perfection.

[arctic grove]

I like Irish too

[copper fulcrum]

Espinoza pulling out his shield
"HEHE I GOT THIS"
"GET SOME"

The oncoming tank with no pressure applied to the brakes

[timid latch]

Better question what is the least serious one

[copper fulcrum]

Mackay

[arctic grove]

Angel does it again

[timid latch]

Ah classic angel

[copper fulcrum]

After the 'tone update' he might never do it again 😔

[solid imp]

will be so sad

[arctic grove]

Angel is the bf2042 mascot and he deserves it

[wide violet]

cant wait

[timid latch]

Don’t be sad

[copper fulcrum]

Sadly, this is how it works out sometimes

[solid imp]

I've said it before, I want that voice actor to do my eulogy someday. The man is a champ and gets it done.

[arctic grove]

I swear dice fixes the best bugs of the game. Like the hovercraft climb.

[copper fulcrum]

I don't even play Angel lol

[stone cradle]

Mackay, in the beta I was flipping around in a wildcat and my guy sounded like he was having a seizure

[arctic grove]

Dice needs to realize that some bugs are better left unfixed

[timid latch]

Yeah I remember jumping from a cliff with the car

[timid latch]

The thing is that falck had those too

[arctic grove]

Same my guy. I want to roll around in my grave as he gives a speech in his angel voice.

[copper fulcrum]

Mackay after hitting a tank with an entire Jet

WOO GOT ONE

[stone cradle]

Rao robbed Angel of his rightful place as the cover guy

[copper fulcrum]

This is one to be remembered

[arctic grove]

I dont mind it tbh.

[timid latch]

Reporting for duty

[arctic grove]

Are you ok?

[cedar turtle]

At ease

[stone cradle]

A small price to pay for one less annoying tank

[timid latch]

Rao seriously has a Boy Scout mentality, no offense to Boy Scouts

[cedar turtle]

I'm just a cub scout

[arctic grove]

No work more play. or was it no work no play? dammit i cant remember a boris quote

[arctic grove]

As long as he can fix my puter im a happy camper

[stone cradle]

His concept art made him look like a literal boy scout

[timid latch]

No play more work

[arctic grove]

Thanks.

[desert elbow]

The faction consists of displaced people from around the world, it makes sense

[timid latch]

I am not sure but something in that manner

[arctic grove]

I agree it makes sense but when they are shooting each other in opposing factions it just feels like clone wars

[stone cradle]

Paik's quote "hehehe did I go too far" makes me question if specialists are actually children that have possessed adult bodies.

[timid latch]

Sundance is no better

[arctic grove]

No no that was Dice doing. I cant blame the specialists

[edgy oriole]

Boy Scouts is entry level of the Free masons

[stone cradle]

Irish says in the intro video that no-pats are from all around the world, and yet we have the same 10 on both sides, could have atleast split 5 onto each faction.

[edgy oriole]

or atleast 10 and 10. i thought this since release too

[stone cradle]

I hate that they copied vanguard, CW and MW had seperate operators completely fine before too.

[timid latch]

Wait wasn’t the candy crush ceo or something the main designer behind this game?

Or did I remember something wrong?

[solid imp]

Don't get me started on that. Design Lead (2042).

[stone cradle]

Not CEO, but yes he worked on candy crush

[next onyx]

For acti?

Ye.

[arctic grove]

[stone cradle]

And the head of DICE for a while was the person who created ultimate team in FIFA I believe.

[timid latch]

It all starts to make sense

[edgy oriole]

i bet he is a rich man

[stone cradle]

Damn right, he gets away with modern day gambling for younger kids. EA probably pays him big bucks.

[edgy oriole]

I wanna play 2042 but i dont wanna rage quit

[arctic grove]

I’ll force you to play with me

[edgy oriole]

[arctic grove]

Damn let me in on that action

[timid latch]

Battlefield mobile looks promising actually

[edgy oriole]

games are 10 minutes only now. ez kills. boring

[fervent grotto]

Really?

[edgy oriole]

yes

[fervent grotto]

What the hell

Why? What made them decide that was a good idea?

[hearty flame]

If you haven't noticed dice hasn't been making many good decisions lately

[zenith palm]

Bro the tension of a 1/2 hour match is exciting and enticing, the 10 minute decision was not the play Dice... very disappointed with their continuous buffooneries

[tacit sphinx]

what

there is... not a limit on how long a match can be/it rarely comes into play

[next onyx]

Usually the limit is an hour.

[edgy oriole]

put it in perspective. im defense and we are attacking the attackers... 64bt = more chaos ig

the only reason we are getting action is if we camp their spawn line because they wont attack

[fervent grotto]

“We heard you guys hated it when we changed old features that were loved and needed no changes, so we decided to do it again!”

[edgy oriole]

its so hard rn

[bold bridge]

Hey, I'm wondering where can I find my pre order items?

[copper fulcrum]

The only thing you get for pre-ordering is an Irish set

Unless you mean the Gold or Ultimate Edition stuff

[bold bridge]

I bought the Ultimate edition

Back in June 2021

[edgy oriole]

you get casper skin too then

[copper fulcrum]

Okay well there's gun skins and some outfits

[edgy oriole]

if they arent on your character customization tree then you gotta email ea

[copper fulcrum]

Weapon skins for the M5A3, PBX-45, LCMG and maybe one I forgot
Specialist skins for Rao, Sundance, Casper and Mackay

Ranger skin

[bold bridge]

Oh ok

Just opened the game today even thought I bought it almost a year ago lol

[compact dew]

oh ffs found another thing I hate about bf2042 with the fps counter you get by the console commands they now split it up between cpu and gpu with no way to combine it

[bold bridge]

Quick question

am I supposed to get a tank skin?

[edgy oriole]

I dont remember a tank skin being advertised, but i bought the gold edition.

[compact dew]

you dont have to its just cosmetics

[compact dew]

you get them from mastery

[compact dew]

they're unlocks from the weapon/vehicle mastery, they're not important, only cosmetic

if you have the ultimate edition then you should have some skins for some vehicles and weapons but not all

[paper current]

How’s this game doing…? I stopped playing before it the the horror stories

[haughty raft]

Jesus the game is buggy and unfinished but people should stop acting like you’re about to use a ouija board

The game is playable, you’re not going to go into cardiac arrest the moment you play it. You won’t know if you like it unless you do.

[paper current]

I’m talking about the player base

And I’m not complaining I’m just asking lol.

[edgy oriole]

trash but you can find full lobby if youre not asian or oce server based

[haughty raft]

I know.
The game is doing better. People will probably still tell you it’s trash but they’re updating the game. I personally sit between dislike and like and I think there just needs to be more content. I would wait until S1 drops and see what that brings

[hearty flame]

Well we know a decent amount of whats in it. 1 new map, 1 rework map, and some portal maps and weapons. not much

[paper current]

Thank you a reasonable answer with somewhat of an explaination instead of just. It’s trash, or why are people complaining. A legit honest to god answer and explaination. Thank you 😂

[edgy oriole]

i mean the player base is trash. (if youre talking about me saying trash up above.) its honest lol.

[haughty raft]

That’s fair from a battlefield standpoint it’s trash, as a shooter it’s decent so I think that’s why I’m waiting it out to see if they’ll fix it

[mental sierra]

Can't find hard-core teamdesth match

Havnt played game since March 30th.

I wanted to see if the mass team killing was still a thing but I guess people quit it now?

[swift chasm]

Is battlefield 2042 worth just for the Portal mode?

[desert elbow]

Why is it trash from a battlefield standpoint?

[stone cradle]

I guess, wait for it to hit EA Play / Gamepass or for a sale to happen. Full price, I would say no

[urban mauve]

so apparently dice did the epic funny and disabled my crossplay in an update

but i found a match and im fucking HYPED

[eternal storm]

Theres hc tdm right now

[desert elbow]

Unlucky, I’ll check if mines still on

[haughty raft]

Eh, just don’t really care for specialists and the like. Maps need work, time to get to the objective needs to be shortened, the game doesn’t “flow” like a normal battlefield

[urban mauve]

deadass tho i haven't been able to find a match in literally 5 months and when i turned it on i found a 64 player conquest match in less than 30 seconds

game might have only 2k players at a time but hot damn i can finally find a match

[eternal storm]

Previous smaller maps in bf were way better

[ocean willow]

went to cross platform,,,cheaters

[desert elbow]

Normal battlefield maps are known for their size though

In terms of map design this is some of the closest map roster we’ve gotten to old map designs

[arctic grove]

specilists out of the games please

[haughty raft]

Normal battlefield maps are known for their design because there is no one size of map in Battlefield

[desert elbow]

That’s only really happened since bf3

However you are correct though

[haughty raft]

I think these huge maps could work though, they just have to make them less shitty

Bandar is a good example of a massive map done right

[swift chasm]

I think it is already on ea play

[stone cradle]

Play Pro, not EA play

[desert elbow]

Bandar has more open space than any 2042 map

[haughty raft]

With a core of objectives to play

[desert elbow]

Still one of my favourite maps in the series though

[eternal storm]

Renewal is pretty crap

Concept is good tho

[desert elbow]

Which would take over 3 minutes to traverse (Except the ones in the south of the map)

[arctic grove]

Dice could really save time by rotating all maps with a different layout for 64 players. Like renewal for example can use only one side of the map for cq or bt then in another rotation the green side.

maybe my expectations are brutal. who knows.

[eternal storm]

The gunplay is fun, that’s literally the only thing keeping me coming to the game, even then I’ll play 45 mins max

[arctic grove]

All good point I think they needed to release the game with a mix of map size some big lots of vehicle some small infantry only and some in the middle

[compact dew]

one unusual thing I found with the performance is that it performed better with dlss off rather then on

its much better holy shit

[plucky pebble]

same

[compact dew]

I stand corrected, but it was performing better without, maybe just the fps in the match was better idk

[rain quest]

Flashback conquest is where it’s at, hours and hours of fun

[eternal storm]

Yeah cos the maps be better

[cedar turtle]

Another RDR avatar enters the fray

[compact dew]

rdr is a great game

oh shit just realised your pfp is sadie

wait nvm

wait yeah it is

[copper fulcrum]

If only the online for that was good

[topaz crown]

RDR is great, just can't get on with the online

[fallen yarrow]

Please use #other-games to talk about other games. This channel is strictly for complaining about 2042

[topaz crown]

xD

[craggy marten]

So you're practically saying BF2042 is the McDonald's of the BF franchise

[tepid agate]

So dice say the new map is "at a level we expect from ourselves"

What about the 7 maps you launched the game with I'm pretty sure they said similar things.

I just can't buy into their hype anymore until they deliver what they say.

Literally spending most of their time to rework their maps.

[topaz crown]

Take the game off the store and just give us BF4 mixed with WW3

[arctic grove]

[warped pilot]

I can't believe dice are abandoning hazard zone in just 6 months

They just don't learn

[tepid agate]

The speed of their content delivery is too slow for the time it's been out

First map rework will be 10 months after launch

[fallen yarrow]

Relax guys, they're trying their best

[warped pilot]

By killing the franchise yeah

They sure doin' their best

[tepid agate]

I know I don't doubt that they are incompetent of what they are doing or that they don't work hard enough, but they forced the game out too early with super high expectations from the fans

[fallen yarrow]

They're trying very hard

[warped pilot]

The formula is literally there

[fallen yarrow]

That's why they dont have time to communicate

[warped pilot]

What's stopping them from using that?

[fallen yarrow]

Even the communication team is busy coding

[tepid agate]

Takes 2 minutes to share an update on twitter

Would be better for them to just apologise and Amit this game has failed hard.

Promise fans to deliver on the next product and offer the game at a discounted price

[arctic grove]

LMAO thanks mini mod

[warped pilot]

They have all the time in making some banger trailers
And ur telling me they don't have time to fix the actual game?
The fuck is that logic?

[fallen yarrow]

They don't have 2 minutes....they have to meet these 'Brutal' expectations of the community

Like scoreboard, voip, kill feed, squad management and all the other legacy features

[topaz crown]

How about a new game

[fallen yarrow]

If they waste time on twitter...how will we get these updates?

Also, those 2 minutes could have been better spent copy pasting another beanie to release as weekly content

[tepid agate]

They have just confirmed 1/3 of their online experience dead after 7 months

[warped pilot]

Yeah i can't wait for mwii

[topaz crown]

To be honest VoIP, scoreboard etc should've been priority

[tepid agate]

Only 2/3 remain

[fallen yarrow]

That's one full week of content that the playerbase can miss out on

[warped pilot]

Even if i ain't buyin it

[arctic grove]

To be fair marketing team is separate from the devs who are working on the game.

[topaz crown]

I can't either, I can't be hyped like I was for BF though as BF was a let down, never will I pre-order a game again

[fallen yarrow]

Lol people still pre-ordering battlefield games after BF4?

[arctic grove]

Bro relax. We had all those weekly missions for white skins and charms. stop being brutal. we got content.

[tepid agate]

They even scrapped making s single player campaign to focus making multiplayer before launch and look at the condition

[topaz crown]

I did, I didn't pre-order BFV nor BF1 though

[fallen yarrow]

Ya, I appreciate all the white skins that I can use to camouflage my character while running 1000m between objectives on breakaway.

[arctic grove]

Dont forget they pulled the plug early on bfv and swbf2 and worked on it 3 years early

[plucky pebble]

oooof

[topaz crown]

I'm actually looking forward to XDEFIANT to be fair

[arctic grove]

All we can do is wait and try to make the best of the 100-130 bucks we spent on the game.

[tepid agate]

They pulled the plug on bfV when it was thriving. Still is but they could have continued instead of force out this mess

[low solar]

Funniest part to me lol this game was all about focus on multilayer and this was the half baked dog poo they gave 🤣 how people defended it still hurts my brain

[plucky pebble]

its ubisoft bro...

[arctic grove]

Same with swbf2. it was getting better too.

[fallen yarrow]

Don't be sad

[topaz crown]

I know :( but I can't help it, I bet if they make Splinter Cell they'll screw that up

[arctic grove]

This is just how it works sometimes

[low solar]

[tepid agate]

Exactly! Like wth it's not like they delivered a sensational campaign and bad multiplayer, so it could be justified that they spent more time on campaign they literally scrapped campaign to deliver a poor multiplayer wth is going on over there

[arctic grove]

All dice had to do is upgrade and remaster classic swbf games with its classes

[tepid agate]

They delivered less maps then the recent battlefields and have to spend time to go back and rework them this is a big mess man

[arctic grove]

Interns and college graduate devs with little to no experience.

[tepid agate]

Wouldn't surprise me

[fallen yarrow]

Like I said earlier...they're trying their best. Unfortunately, this is the best they can do

[arctic grove]

I completely agree with u on that.

Not sure why dice let go of bf vets who knows how frostbite works to teach the newcomers. Also EA fault for not paying the experienced ones enough for them to stay.

[tepid agate]

I think the 2042 project is too big for them to meet the fanbases expectations

[arctic grove]

Its not big. Its just not enough talent who knows the engine and those who worked on previous battlefield games.

Those who know left either cuz the pay wasnt worth it or maybe a toxic work enviornment. No one really knows.

[tepid agate]

They must have had disagreements with the new direction it is undertaking because that's the big changes in-game

[arctic grove]

Yeah which is why its EA fault too.

[tepid agate]

I think some past employers where on social media making comments about its state before

[tepid agate]

Oh hell yes they are also to blame for this too

[arctic grove]

If ea was smart and had a brain they would give bf a big budget with freedom to create an actual bf game instead of looking at trends and statistics

[topaz crown]

Maps ain't even worn torn are they?

[arctic grove]

nope. but are being reworked for s1 and s2

[topaz crown]

I'd give it a try

When is it out?

[tepid agate]

They are even going back to redesign the players facial appearances and voice lines they should just refund the players and go work on your game

[arctic grove]

same. Thats all we can do. Just make the best of it.

[arctic grove]

Sometime in S1

[topaz field]

EA pay dice Devs bruv... So it's 1000% ea fault. You do know that if the devs had refused to finish the game EA would've just fired them all and get another studio or department to finish the game right?

[arctic grove]

If this was true then EA shouldve just done that.

[topaz field]

I'm sure If that had happened the game would've been 100% worst state 🤣

[topaz crown]

I lost $80 but definitely worth a try, especially for that much

Medal of Honor when?

[tepid agate]

I have a challenge for you... Tell me how it can get worse 😄

[arctic grove]

Exactly. i bought the $100 edtion.

[tepid agate]

@topaz field only way is up for sure

[topaz field]

Then we would not have had any battlefield . Prob some call of duty knock off shit lmfaoooooo

[tepid agate]

🫂

[topaz field]

Y'all still crying about the $100??? You guys ain't make back the $100 yet??

[tepid agate]

Good because 2042 is not Battlefield!

[arctic grove]

Another great franchise killed. MoH 1 and 2 on ps1 are underrated but the best one was MoH frontlines for ps2 and xbox.

[topaz field]

To me it is I'm enjoying it won't let that stop me 🤣

[tepid agate]

It's can't really be made back until the fix what's should he delivered

[topaz field]

It's not 100% battlefield but it's getting there

[arctic grove]

Its more like a hybrid battlefield

but better than nothing.

[severe carbon]

Has anyone else been getting BSOD crashes when playing the game this update? I've been getting page fault in non-paged area crashes, and the memory dumps point to EasyAntiCheat as the culprit

[tepid agate]

It's not like it's at a finished state and giving new content

They removed so many normal FPS functions and battlefield vibes at launch... They are now reworking their maps and reworking the specialists it's a big fail

[topaz field]

Nah I'm on ps4 slim

[arctic grove]

dice has only 1 choice now. They have to lock gadgets to certain classes to have that classes feel becuase they already told us that the specialists are here to stay.

[topaz field]

It is what it is ... If you have a issue take it up with the main company and not the developers

[warped pilot]

i can't wait to see them flop on their next game... AGAIN

[tepid agate]

2042 fans defend specialists like classes and gadget locks are not needed

[arctic grove]

It will flop it turns out to be a hero shooter

[topaz field]

I want peek from cover and manual lean and I think I'm happy

[topaz crown]

They were indeed, I miss the gunplay of Medal of Honor 2010

I heard Ripple Effect is working on something so hopefully MOH

[topaz field]

Specialist are good but I agree gadget lock/class is needed badly

[tepid agate]

Developers should not develop their BS have some passion for the game you once created and stand up for it. Don't become yes men

[arctic grove]

from the fans ive talked to prefer some kind of class. They want a bf4 or bf1 type of class system

[tepid agate]

We need this again this new direction is doomed

[arctic grove]

Yeah or else it will flop

[tepid agate]

Didn't high Devs walk away from this all? I guess because of this direction

[arctic grove]

not even fortnut kids will wanna touch a bf game.

[tepid agate]

It's sad man really is

What's steam saying today

[arctic grove]

im a bf vet and a bf fanboy and the hurt is incomprehensible

[topaz crown]

Hazard Zone was an instant failure

[arctic grove]

i read it was below 1k player count but thats just steam alone.

[topaz crown]

In my opinion BF should stay away from BR, ETF modes

[arctic grove]

It was DOA but it had potential as well.

[tepid agate]

Yes I understand steam is not the full numbers but this is just a rough estimate to what's firs and what isn't at this moment

[topaz crown]

Remember that EA presentation they shown about facial features and destruction, I was so hyped seeing that

[tepid agate]

Today's 24 hour player peaks:

BFV - 12.5K
BF1 - 8.6K
BF4 - 2.3K
2042 - 2.1K

[arctic grove]

damn 😭

[topaz crown]

I can see numbers raising during Season 1 only due to people retrying it

[tepid agate]

Show these stats to a stranger and ask them to guess which one is the newest entry to the franchise

[arctic grove]

its expected and it will stay at a steady pace or it will suddenly drop again. Time will tell.

[topaz crown]

Strange I absolutely couldn't stand BFV, but after 2042 and going back, it has decent gunplay

[arctic grove]

same

[tepid agate]

Yes they will. It will definitely surpass BF4 after the update. Passing bf1 is debatable. Passing bfV, no chance

[arctic grove]

Now i play bf4 whenever i want to play in a modern setting.

[tepid agate]

Still full servers there

[topaz crown]

100%

[topaz crown]

Absolutely

I know I shouldn't say but I do think I would've love a BF like WW3 with the leaning mechanics etc but obviously with the jets and helis :(

[arctic grove]

yeah but mostly milsim servers lol. i got banned in one of them for killing the admin.

[tepid agate]

Same with the 4.0 updates

Steam went from. 1k players to 2.5 -3k players

No it's on the decline again

People play to check it out then bounce

[tepid agate]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[arctic grove]

Now that was a battlefield moment

[forest snow]

Milsim server? Hahaha what the?

[arctic grove]

yeah like some clans will rent their own bf4 servers

[tepid agate]

It's a shame the stopped commander mode on iPad I used to enjoy contributing to the battlefield on that

[forest snow]

How the hell do you turn battlefield into a Milsim?

[topaz crown]

One word, Arma

[arctic grove]

People do. They make it with military ranks and stuff like that.

[forest snow]

Jesus

[topaz crown]

Exactly this, just like Warzone updates people check it out then bounce again

[arctic grove]

i played arma forging on xbox and the map is wayyyy to big for 32 players.

[topaz crown]

Agreed, I played the trail, no way I was paying, no helis either made it feel... Horrible

[arctic grove]

map could work with minimum 64 players - 128 players

[tepid agate]

This is why we all expect 2042 to suprass bf4. It already should be but it's a big mess.

After this season 1, if it can't keep a high player number then even BF1 then that confirms it all for me. I don't mean spike higher I mean sustain

[arctic grove]

im sticking to HLL for now.

[topaz crown]

I really hope DICE / EA know they've f up

[topaz crown]

HLL is decent, I wish that voice communication would come to a BF in the future

I love how you can change to, proximity, team radio and party

[white geyser]

Same

[tepid agate]

You know when people go hard to defend 2042, oh look at the launch of past titles, oh specialts are still like classes, no gadget locks make it easier for players to help each other, destruction is just the same as other titles

😫

Numbers don't lie.

[arctic grove]

it definitely would make it alot better

[white geyser]

I'm not sure right now, who's fault for the mess of 2042 but I want to painfully slap at their face and give them a wake up, also make them swallow their pride.

[tepid agate]

Didn't they say in that video they are not yet ready to speak on the specialist feedback loop because they are fixing all the other problems in the game?

[topaz crown]

So true, numbers never lie

I bet the people who defend it definitely didn't play last titles

[tepid agate]

The thing that makes me cry inside, some of those defenders DID play past titles I don't know what happened 😫 😫 😫 😓

[arctic grove]

[tepid agate]

@arctic grove I like your profile. Saw it the other day. AMAZING MOVIE!

[arctic grove]

[topaz crown]

Love the profile picture and cover :)

[topaz crown]

Wow, this hurts

[tepid agate]

I wanna go see Maverick again

[topaz crown]

I heard they all actually flew F18s, crazy

[tepid agate]

Need that crying gif "look what they've done to my boy" 😭

[tepid agate]

Yeah they did. That's why the scenes in those planes you really feel connected. Movies aren't made like this

[tepid agate]

It's like a real story they must have been going through atleast 8 G's shooting those scenes and it's not acting, it's real lol

Movie of the year so far for me

[topaz crown]

Absolutely agreed :(

[topaz crown]

That's crazy

I can't wait to see it

[tepid agate]

Out in your region yet?

[cedar turtle]

Nether regions

[copper fulcrum]

ba dum ts

[tepid briar]

Theres 4 new maps referenced in the game files. Could there be 1 new 2042 map abs the rest portal maps for bf3, bc2 and 1942?

[tepid agate]

Maybe 1 map for each season

[wanton magnet]

That would be amazing. They stated they were going to add the portal maps to all out warfare.

[arctic grove]

i want bf4 and bf1 maps

[fallen fossil]

It might be only meee on this one but id be genuinely happy to see 2142 content

[arctic grove]

There's no content son

[white geyser]

BF1 not sure, but BF4 that's what I'm hoping for to add it in the portal

[arctic grove]

You've been scammed by DICE

[fallen fossil]

Aww zuck

[copper fulcrum]

I doubt we'll get some 2142 maps but that'd be nice.

I imagine we'll get some of the more 'known' titles first

[arctic grove]

[white geyser]

It's gonna take how many months for them to work on BF 2142 to be added in the portal.

Remake the maps from 2142 and other things to work on

[copper fulcrum]

To be fair 2142 is a bit of a tall order considering the vehicles

It would be nice to see the T-39 Bogatyr again though

[arctic grove]

Oh no

[white geyser]

I'm still gonna remain the Devs, to bring BF4 in the portal somewhere in the month, maybe not in August or September, just another time to work on

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/brpF1.gif

[arctic grove]

[hexed mango]

i mean i actively play bf1 and sometimes bf4 while still enjoying bf2042
i can still enjoy other games while also supporting this game, cause i believe that it has potential

[celest oar]

I played past BF titles, that why I hate the locked loadout with class in those game.

[tepid agate]

Yes, you can enjoy anything you wish 🤗 🍻

[hexed mango]

i agree, tbh i didnt think about it much, and while i still enjoy the class games, i do find it really fun to not have the restrictions, and i would support that focus later, rather than class selections

[tepid agate]

Yeah the older battlefields are not for everybody, some prefer the new direction 🍻

[hexed mango]

tbh, with the blog post ( #game-news ), my hopes are up, but i just hope they role out another update or two before s1 cause if we go into s1 with 4.1 / 4.1.1 ima cry a bit

[celest oar]

BF4 is fine, then BF V is ridiculous that they give Medic SMG as the only choice, no way in hell I'm gonna play Medic with the gun loadout that only viable in short range. What are they expecting me as MEdic? Like rush closer to enemies and kill them with short range gun like SMG?

[hexed mango]

i mean rushing is what an smg does, but i get your point lol

like in bf1, assault is smg, and i like that cause its with the intention of rushing and attacking, where medic and support are separate

[tepid agate]

They are doing the right things but they can't work to the expectations of fans. It's too slow but they can't do anything because they were forced to push it out too early. It's a shame.

If 2042 is a spin-off experiment to try out all this new stuff then OK have it. But if this is really then starting to change the whole direction of the franchise then that's what upsets me

[hexed mango]

i mean im just glad the people that say "where is the roadmap" can get something else to complain about, cause (while they have been doing it all along) this is a clear reminder of their goals and aspirations for the game, that's what im looking for

[hexed mango]

i mean that wasnt its intention, so i wouldnt demean the work of the devs by giving it that label

also, there are many features in 2042 that i miss when playing bf1 or bf4, and i would rather them take a lot from 2042 for the future, and not abandoning everything it has

[tepid agate]

Yeah it was good and painful at the same time to see the road map. Changes that will be coming looks as if that's what the game should have been like. They just can't work a fast enough pace. Not Because they're lazier incapable they've just got too much to do with this game and it's just too slow in my opinion.

[hexed mango]

i mean they aren't lazy...

[tepid agate]

No I had a typo I meant they are not

[hexed mango]

oh ic

yeah, and plus, with the multiple studios working on it, they have to split and that makes it a tad more difficult

[tepid agate]

We all know steam charts and not everything, but to see it's now dropped below Battlefield 4 again, this whole new direction is just not working

I was just so hyped that they said no campaign because they're going to focus on multiplayer. They really elevated expectations like wow they're going to deliver this time because they haven't got to focus their attention towards that area

7 months after launch they still have to rework the appearances of their characters to make it feel like war, their voices, their maps, they've had to buff a nerve loads of different vehicles it's just too much

[hexed mango]

they probably intended to do that, but got too busy while working on engine, that by the time it got to developing, they wouldnt of had time to add campaign with multiplayer aswell, cause of a lack of time + ableness with exec

[tepid agate]

They've already killed off a third of their online experience (HZ) because it's really rubbed off bad on most of the community

[hexed mango]

they said they arent removing it... just that they wont focus updates on it

"Hazard Zone will stay as part of the experience, we’re not switching it off, but beyond addressing critical errors and odd behaviors that may appear in the future, we’re no longer actively developing new experiences or content for the mode, and you’ll find that maps that we release across our seasons will not be supported in Hazard Zone."

[tepid agate]

Yeah it will stay there but nobody's going to get into service lol they basically said it's dead and they're not going to be focusing on it. And this is happened before season 1 is even here

[hexed mango]

i mean tbh they shouldnt of had launched the game with all 3 modes... they should of waited till s1, cause regardless of if the game was popular or not, its too much digestion at once

[tepid agate]

I agree with that

[hexed mango]

i mean i think once (if) more people get back during s1, more people will play hz, which then they might scale up development on it, but time will tell

[hearty flame]

hz still wouldve died anyway cuz its not a well thought out mode

[hexed mango]

idk i liked it, it was pretty fun and has a nice structure, just not too many people prefer that over aow/portal

i like the idea of them just not focusing on it as much, and as they said, "we’ll benefit greatly from letting our focus and energy stay on the modes we see you engaging most with"

[tepid agate]

Think even portal is on the verge of dying honestly there's hardly any full service there

[hearty flame]

I mean why would anyone buy a bf game, known for big combined arms battles, for a small tactial-ish extraction mode

[hexed mango]

i mean i think the featured modes get good attention, which is the purpose

[tepid agate]

My flashback conquest games are like 8 vs 8

[hearty flame]

i mean portal might well be dying. i dont think we're getting a portal map in s1

[hexed mango]

isnt that basically what tdm is, yet people play that? and rush, thats small and tactical-ish
or frontlines, (not 2042), people play that, and its not large and bold, but rather tactical and smaller

https://media.contentapi.ea.com/content/dam/battlefield/battlefield-2042/community-assets/kin-bb-mu-spcl1.gif
https://media.contentapi.ea.com/content/dam/battlefield/battlefield-2042/community-assets/kin-bb-mu-spcl2.gif
honestly though these look pretty cool. while minimal cause its not a 3rd person game, i find it nice to know they are detailing this stuff more

[hearty flame]

those are still largish scale combined arms gameplay. but squad vs squad vs ai stuff isnt the traditional bf consumerbase and its death kinda shows what people though of it

[tepid agate]

My stage at 2042 now is to just come back to do weekly missions

I know BFV had weekly missions but I would still want to play that just because of the game

I'm not sure if bf1 had weekly missions, for definitely didn't but those games just made me want to come back and play and play and play because it was just so fun.

[hearty flame]

also they are now bringing 2042 up to par with bf3 animations lol

[tepid agate]

I'm actually surprised the character doesn't slip over tilting at that angle running on ice haha

[velvet sand]

Broken record: This. Congrats, they're polishing and finishing the animations they didn't have time to finish before launch. I'm not sure why that deserves praise outside of, "It's nice to finally get the quality animations we expected 7 months post launch." but here we are.

Because they're good quality animations at the end of the day.

[hearty flame]

its funny how dice kinda talked like these animations were new and amazing and a breakthrough when you can watch comparison videos online and see how far behind 2042 is animation-wise

[tepid agate]

Like all of this launch state they just believed everything was fine and they're just pulling everything back to the drawing board and reworking it

[velvet sand]

Gotta talk something up. But real though, nice to get the animations and they ARE VERY GOOD ANIMATIONS, but not really worth a victory lap given that it's coming so far after launch.

[hearty flame]

if they thought this was fine they better get their heads out their asses lol

[tepid agate]

Isn't it going to be about 10 months before we get our first map rework because that comes at the end of season 1? Like look at this time scale, working as fast as they can but they can't do this

[hearty flame]

eh theyd have to get to V animations for a victory lap. these are 4 games and a decade old

[desert elbow]

You’re acting like the original animations were bad - in reality they were pretty good

[tepid agate]

I don't think the animations were bad but they had better in the past they could have just copied and pasted that to this

[hearty flame]

lol pivoting the entire body when turning is some noob shit, not something from a triple a studio with 700 employees who did way better in the past

[velvet sand]

They were a considerable "downgrade" from previous versions of the game in terms of quality. They were "fine" in that they work and look alright, but compared to the standard DICE set in previous BF games no, not really.

[hexed mango]

not all 700 employees are animators.

[desert elbow]

I’m pretty sure the third person animations for bf1/BF5 were taken from battlefront which is why they looked so good

[desert elbow]

So? It’s passable

[velvet sand]

Not all 700+ employees are developers or are assigned to internal projects like BF, either. But that's kinda irrelevant to the sentiment.

[tepid agate]

Look at how many different things they are having to rework in their current game because it flopped.

They can copy and paste so much of their past work into this to make it amazing

Sure it may sound lazy but it's better than what is provided

[hexed mango]

that moment when you get better ping in a Chinese server than an American server [i live in the us]

[desert elbow]

Yeah that’s a fair point, I feel like the employees who were able to do that might’ve already left though

[hearty flame]

passable sure. amateurish very. especially compared to past games. but then again 2042 seems like it was made to be a passable game

[desert elbow]

You just said it wasn’t passable though

[tepid agate]

That's almost more than all the portal servers in 2042 right now 😄

[hearty flame]

i said its worse than previous bfs. noob work. never said its not passable

[desert elbow]

You said it wasn’t fine to be in the game at launch

[hearty flame]

where did i say that?

[arctic grove]

KFC does sound good right about now

[desert elbow]

Here

[arctic grove]

Also... i thought bf4 was banned in china lmao

[tepid agate]

Let us rework the specialists appearance, let us rework our map designs, just rework the specialist voice, let us rework that movement animations

Gosh they are putting so much stuff back it's just been such a burn to have this from the start

[hearty flame]

thats not me saying its not passable though. sure it can be seen in the same light but to me fine is better than passable
and these animations aint fine

[arctic grove]

Let us take out specialists all together- my hopes and dreams.

[hearty flame]

never gonna happen sadly

[tepid agate]

That's never going to happen for 2042

Like this may not even be a big issue to some but both teams look exactly the same as well

You could be fighting the same boris or the same angel on the opposite team it doesn't feel like a war between two countries

[hearty flame]

dice has an uphill battle and only having 1 new map and 1 rework map in s1 is like shooting yourself in the foot before fighting uphill

[tepid agate]

Yeah they just can't work fast enough to revive the state of this game

Honestly I think it's better for us to just hope that the next one can deliver

[hearty flame]

I cant wait for prelaunch memes for the next bf

[tepid agate]

I play on PS5 right so I thought with these new controller adaptations like when you pull the trigger for your weapons and stuff you would feel it. Feel none of this holding the controller on this battlefield. I thought like driving vehicles or pulling triggers on heavy machine guns you were going to feel that with the triggers but you don't

I think the memes are going to be pretty crazy

[arctic grove]

with crossplay? i play on series x with crossplay on.

[tepid agate]

Yeah I've always play with cross play on. And don't dare to try and search for a game with it off it's already filled with bots when it's cross play on

[arctic grove]

yeah. especially on portal sadly

[tepid agate]

Are you able to see now what the highest server population is portal?

Last week when I went online the highest was 42 players

[arctic grove]

16

[tepid agate]

Wow

[arctic grove]

i saw 16 tonight but then a blackout occured so idk right now.

today was my chance to play a little bit of 2042 but nooo. 🦗

[tepid agate]

Do you remember when LevelCap thought Angry Joe was over the top complaining about his 2042 review?

Half a year on you don't see the big YouTubers playing much of this game

I'll check tonight it may pick up a bit more because the weekly mission will come out.

[hearty flame]

Im sure its part honeymoon period ending, part holding onto hope, and part realizing that the fanbase and their fans dont like 2042 as much as they do

[tepid agate]

Yeah I think they've came to that realization to that maybe the loud complaining reviews were not overhyped

I actually check Steam charts to see if BF3 would even have more players online than 2042 but no that has about 200 at its peak hour haha

[hearty flame]

I mean i kinda get defending 2042 for them. its their livelihood. but for big ones like levelcap or jackfrags they have enough of an audience and variety in content to survive no bf lol
and 3 is older so most of its players are prob on origin

[tepid agate]

Yeah usually all of the uploads now I just them playing other games other than 2042. And they are also really big Battlefield fans so it just says a lot about the game.

[hexed mango]

now, (not saying i 100% agree with this) but they could be feeding to the trend of "2042 is bad" in order to gain rep
(again not saying i agree with that, but you have to evaluate all possibilities)

[hearty flame]

theyve fallen off the "2042 haters bad" train but are now just meh to 2042 now. they arent playing it

[tepid agate]

Yeah I'm not going to lie, I think some people did hop on that train like it's a trend to hate on it.

I don't believe the player numbers that we can see online are only because people are trying to jump on a trend I really do believe the game has massively under delivered and it's not what most of the community want. But some people did definitely jump on it for a trend

It's like me I don't really play anymore just try to get the weekly mission done, that's it. But I will always click into updates to know what's happening because at the end of the day I love Battlefield.

[hearty flame]

sure there are people that hate things just to hate things. but its easy to spot them because they show they have no idea what theyre talking about really. but the majority of the "haters" are people that have bought and dislike the game though im bettin

[tepid agate]

I was shocked to find out a friend I know was also going to buy this battlefield around the same time as me. He told me he returned it for a refund a few days later after playing it at launch. He said he never played the beta before but it just didn't feel like Battlefield at all

Sorry for all these crazy auto text messages. I speak into my phone because I can't be bothered to type it out. I promise you it's easy to understand what I'm saying just this phone as a problem 😂

[hearty flame]

lol no problem.
and your friend has the same issue ive seen a lot of people had voice during the beta and launch. that it didnt feel like a bf game. now what they means is different from person to person but for such a large amount of that criticism to show up means dice messed up big somewhere or somewheres

[tepid agate]

Right some players like it but a lot of people don't. You can look at the numbers online to know that this has failed. They have obviously acknowledged this because they are reworking so much of the game. It's good to see that they acknowledge and make things better but how long do you think is going to actually take until 2042 could be at a stage where it should be?

I think I bought Battlefield 4 a year after it launched and it felt fine for me at that stage, and it had about all the crazy bugs that launched with

[desert elbow]

To be fair, people always say that. It’s clear a ton of people agree that they don’t feel like it is a Battlefield game, but people have been saying that since BC1

It’s a trend

[tepid agate]

I believe there's a portion of the community who are trending with hate, I still feel most of it really is because the game just isn't what it should be

[hearty flame]

while its not a great sample size, with s1 only giving us 1 new map and 1 rework at the end, uhhh its gonna take a while lol

[hearty flame]

sure its a trend but i dont think its a trend thats ever killed 90%+ of a population on a platform

[tepid agate]

1 rework at the end that's 10 months sinc relaunch before the first map rework

[arctic grove]

Yeah i just wish dice had more help so they can pump out more content.

[tepid agate]

We have another map reworking season 2. I think even hourglass needs a rework. How many more maps realistically do you think need a rework in 2042?

[hearty flame]

I mean they had like 3 support studios right? im sure ripple is still workin on 2042 but not sure about the other 2

[desert elbow]

That’s what people say after every battlefield launch, people will never be satisfied completely

[tepid agate]

The numbers don't lie. All I can say 🍻 🤗

[desert elbow]

We’ve never had official player counts to my knowledge until this launch, so how would we know?

[desert elbow]

The numbers which consistently complain after every launch

The game definitely has flaws - a lot. However it’s a clear pattern to complain

[hearty flame]

we used to for 3/4/battlefront 1 no? they had their own number tracking sites i think. but what we can infer is trend because console players are humans too shudders lol so something similar is probably going on there too

[tepid agate]

We are 7 months into launch and the numbers are behind Battlefield 4

They have publicly came out and say they are not going to add anything new to Hazard because it's basically dead

[desert elbow]

Do you have a source? I couldn’t find any official ones

[desert elbow]

Bf4 has tons more content after all the DLCs, it’s expected to have more players

[hexed mango]

it (bf4) also did terrible at launch

[arctic grove]

All of them honestly.

[tepid agate]

But it hasn't had new content for YEARS

Everything released in 2042 is already new content for Battlefield fans, maps, weapons, vehicles ... Whole newer than Battlefield 4 content which is over 10 years old right?

[hearty flame]

Its been years since ive checked but maybe its this one?
https://bf4db.com/stats
i recall it really because there was news about ea no longer releasing numbers through some means or another

[desert elbow]

All the maps are pretty overhated atm in my opinion, however maybe adding some more objectives inbetween locations would make more sense rather than deleting parts of the map

[tepid agate]

Yes I always heard about this but I bought it about a year after launch and I think it was fine. How long do you want to sleep in 2042 will need to be where it's at?

[hexed mango]

i 100% understood that

[desert elbow]

By that logic why would people still be playing BF4 after BF1 and BF5 released?

[tepid agate]

Yes in a recent road map it looks like they are turning it into what it should be. But it's just far too slow that they're going to deliver this

[hexed mango]

how do i sleep in a game exactly

[tepid agate]

Because that is the latest modern Battlefield shooter prior to 2042

[tepid agate]

Hahahaha my phone's auto text because I speak into the phone😄

[desert elbow]

Well then why are people still playing Battlefield 1942 after BF5 released?

[tepid agate]

@hexed mango I mean how long do you think it will take before 2042 is where it should be

[hexed mango]

idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tepid agate]

Nostalgia? I'm predicting those numbers are ridiculously low

[desert elbow]

Well then you could use that logic for bf4

[upbeat sand]

something is better than nothing

[arctic grove]

a quick smal fix would be adding more assets and change a few control points to a better location

[tepid agate]

No the logic for Battlefield 4 is this the latest modern military shooter

[desert elbow]

Well then why are people still playing BF3

[hexed mango]

i mean to be brutally honest, progress is quite slow. based on the notes from that forum post, it seems (or i hope) things will pickup, but i think it wont be until s1 / after s1 that we see change that has a large impact

[arctic grove]

The hate on the maps is understandable. it looks and feels like a f2p mobile game.

[tepid agate]

Again those numbers are ridiculously low I checked today on Steam it had a peak of 200 players it's like a nostalgia thing. 2042, bfV, bf1, bf4 are way into the 1000s

[desert elbow]

I disagree, they feel like proper battlefield’s (in scale) imo, it’s a shame they’re being heavily reduced

[desert elbow]

Not necessarily, I know a ton of people generally prefer bf3 over bf4 gameplay wise

[arctic grove]

wait they being heavily reduced? i thought they were just adding cover

[desert elbow]

Yeah they’re like deleting a quarter of Renewal

[tepid agate]

You think today that Battlefield 3 is more played than Battlefield 4?

[desert elbow]

Nope but it proves nostalgia isn’t the only factor

[arctic grove]

They should just combine at this point and turn it into like a Halo MCC thing.

[upbeat sand]

everyone in the steam community are just yelling at devs for a full auto g18 pistol weapon to be added continouslyu

[tepid agate]

Say yeah you can ask yourself why is the latest addition to Battlefield bringing in less players than the last free titles over the last 10 years? It's not just a trend hate thing

[tepid agate]

Don't bring Halo up apparently they made 2042 seem worse than actually is lol

[desert elbow]

That would be amazing, both games have amazing features which would make an almost perfect game if they merged

[arctic grove]

LMAO Remember when dice blamed halo for the bad launch? Pepperidge farms remembers.

[desert elbow]

The same thing happened during previous battlefield launches

[arctic grove]

Easy cash grab and gold mine but dice is too dense.

[tepid agate]

They have made some famous lines

[arctic grove]

TrUsT uS FaM

[tepid agate]

This is why I compare the games I do

Bf1 is the most sold Battlefield game in their history

In today's current player base I only compare the latest old World war (bfV) the old one before it (bf1)

Why are they currently more players playing BFv than bf1? Because they are both great games and bfv is the latest addition

BF3 and BF4 of the two older, modern military shooters. Why are more people playing BF4 then BF3? Because they are both great games and BF4 is the latest addition.

So I compare 2042 with only BF4 because they are the two latest modern military shooters. But bf4 is over 10 years old and still surpasses 2042. The game has really under delivered.

Sorry for the essay😄 💀

Remember, 2042 didn't just launch. We are 7 months into it

[tepid agate]

We got this

[arctic grove]

Epic memes for the decade.

Welp goodnight bf fam. gonna hit the hay.

[desert elbow]

There are far more factors than a game just being a more recent entry

[tepid agate]

Wonder what skin we will get today

[tepid agate]

You can look at the top five currently most played Battlefield games of today. All will fall in order of being the latest releases to the older releases.

2042 is the only one that does not fit that pattern.

Of course there are other factors but when you have two different great games people would play the latest edition

[desert elbow]

2042 is also the only game which hasn’t had a dlc drop yet

[tepid agate]

Well season 1 is around the corner let's see what's goin to happen

[hidden sand]

BF3 was more like BF1 which = goodness

[lyric minnow]

Lone wolfhere, squad that lead me went AWOL and I'm currently looking for a squad that needs someone with experience who can do the smaller roles or if needed command a task force to eliminate certain targets or interest. I am a very well trained medic as well

Posting this cuase I can't see 2042 being a better experience than another other battlefield. Message me if interested

[arctic grove]

Awww

🥺 I might cry after this

The guy has nothing to eat, someone shits in his hands, him: something is better than nothing

starts to eat

YOU BASELESS mf's! YOU DOOMED BF

WHo are these people?

[upbeat sand]

: (

[arctic grove]

What has happened to the people like me? Where are my people? I can't be the only one

Please help

[hidden sand]

I mean they'd be right in BCs case lol
They weren't like BFs actual style, and that was intentional

[arctic grove]

Vito do you see now why you can't say things like that?

I know that you don't want to give up and it's great

[hidden sand]

But people are correct in this game as well, because the gameplay is objectively trying to be something different. Battlefield has a set in stone style, if one the game diviates from it, you can tell and acknowledge it.

[lyric minnow]

I felt the realism was washed away with failed attempts of trying to copy call of duty

[upbeat sand]

i just dont want to force the crunched employees to go even faster

[upbeat sand]

your right tho

[lyric minnow]

Battlefield was known for its realism. It's sound, it's gunplay, it's teamwork, I don't see anything like that I'm 2042 it's like a whole new gen of players compared to if you played bf4

[mental cave]

no it wasn't

battlefield has always been arcade af, the helicopters literally float down in like 0.25x speed lmao

[stray python]

2042 movement is slower and worse than bf4,bf1 and bf5 lol

[arctic grove]

it's not an excuse to make trash games

[lyric minnow]

Bro compare that to call off duty

[arctic grove]

[upbeat sand]

lets just hope next game wont be as rushed but prob not since EA

[lyric minnow]

Unless your on PC us console players took bf4 as our resurgence idk if you play with a squad but when I did it was alot more than just letting vehicles kill you

We had AA players for that at least 2 pre made squads

Anyone tryna run ps4

Bf4, 5 or 1 hmu

[mental cave]

!!lfg

damn thats sad just look at #lfg-playstation lol

theres people there

[lyric minnow]

Already checked dead af

[mental cave]

damn, guess nobody wanna play

[lyric minnow]

Lowkey my opinion it's bf1 that's gotta be the best next to bf4 only reason I say that is the movement

On God): gotta drop 129 solo

[silk surge]

Was known for its realism? Are you trolling? Battlefield has ALWAYS been a sandbox/arcade shooter. Even 1942 followed that formula.

It's for the same reason why PORTAL was advertised as a love letter to fans.

[lyric minnow]

Realism in aspect to its competitors like COD. I say it's damn near alot more realistic. U have actual teamwork. Now remember I ain't talking about PC not everyone has steam and can access high end realism fps military shooters

I get what you mean. The game is chaos

[silk surge]

Overwatch has team work. Is that also a milsim?

[lyric minnow]

U funny for comparing a fiction game to a war game

Like now you sound like my girlfriend. Upset and making up bull lol

U gonna say over watch is anything like cod or bf then what are u even saying

[silk surge]

Like, I get what you mean that Battlefield is a lot more tactical than it's competitors. But there's a reason why COD is their direct competitor and not ARMA.

[lyric minnow]

Insurgency is the most recent milsim we had other than battlefield on console goofy

CONSOLEE

Bruh are u blind I am saying not everyone person got a setup PC and is running these games battlefield was the closest shi we had

Til Insurgency dropped

[silk surge]

@lyric minnow You know what? Let's agree to disagree before this gets too heated. I understand your POV to some extent.

[lyric minnow]

I do to yours as well

See that is something I can say about this game. The community can be mature compared to like my 2k I play or even like my apex servers lol

[arctic grove]

Battlefield isn’t really a milsim lol

[lyric minnow]

Bf players always gotta find a standstill the war ends sometime

It's not but at the same time like I said it was all console had

That was close enough to a tarkov or arma

[arctic grove]

I guess if you mess around in custom servers you can makeshift that, yeah

[delicate hollow]

If y'all want a really fun milsim game btw get Ground Branch

But battlefield is no milsim thank god

[silk surge]

I am taking a break until Season 1 after I reach S142 and post it to Reddit because it kinda looks like 2142. The lack of content is starting to weigh on me.

[lyric minnow]

How can u still play

[arctic grove]

I never understood why people wanted milsim elements in this franchise, would be way too alienated from what battlefield actually is

[lyric minnow]

There's like no content

[arctic grove]

Because some of us simply like the game

[velvet sand]

different stroke for different folk

[silk surge]

PORTAL has kept me busy.

[lyric minnow]

And true but hardcore gets intense when u have a legit squad

I used to run with a platoon of 25 and we would stomp lol in a very older fashion. So you can definitely try

I get that. I mean shi I like it to. But if there's bf1 bf5 and bf4 still out

And I have unlocked damn near everything in 2042

[arctic grove]

I get bored of those ngl

[lyric minnow]

Then I'm just done waiting they ket me down last year with bf5 when they didn't even drop a Russian expansion. Knew they would do it again

[arctic grove]

Maybe cause I have 700 hours into 4 over the past half a decade and like 100 since 2018 with 1

V looks good and has good gunplay and movement but i don’t think it’s some masterpiece and I log off after a couple or so games

[lyric minnow]

Yeah hardcore Mil sim can be annoying and a little to much

But just even talking with a group in a pub game can be really fun and like I said that's consoles closest to milsim

[lyric minnow]

Same lol I give it a game and I'm done

[arctic grove]

In conclusion I think all of those games are fun including 2042, and personally don’t see any reason to put it down now with S1 like 3 weeks away

[lyric minnow]

Not putting down just waiting for content I literally have everything unlocked

[arctic grove]

The battlefield community inflated V so much it’s genuinely ridiculous

[lyric minnow]

So I mean I wanna reach mastery in bf5 and bf1 I lost my old account so ima get back into it. That's my favorite of all time

[lyric minnow]

It's sad to. The game had huge potential

It's amazing almost better than bf1 but there's no content and I'm literally bored as soon as I'm on with all my gold guns playing damn pacific storm all day lol

[silk surge]

Battlefield Mobile is lit.

[lyric minnow]

Lolll

I'm a apex streamer but I am off that bih rn and going back to my roots

So I can say mobile apex is about the same

[silk surge]

It was so tedious to move around though, and the maps were so linear that it became a meatgrinder.

If you increase your sensitivity, you get a massive advantage against people with default sens, which was fun.

The servers are currently in India, so I played with 300ms, even then I got 5KD games.

[lyric minnow]

U should Bluetooth and play controller lol

[silk surge]

I tried connecting my PS5 controller, it wasn't properly compatible. My sens turned to 5 and I couldnt ADS or sprint without clicking the screen.

[lyric minnow]

Ahh

[warped pilot]

it's already out?

[lyric minnow]

I dropped a 21 bomb I'm apex like 2 games in

In

[silk surge]

There's a closed alpha running in the east asian region atm. You can get in by downloading the game from an APK site.

You don't even need VPN.

[warped pilot]

damn

[silk surge]

I can pm you the link I downloaded from if you're interested. It's at your own risk though, I can't guarantee that it's safe. Someone on Twitter told me that they scanned the APK and found no malware though.

[warped pilot]

i don't even think my pc can handle it anyway so... it's fine

[silk surge]

It's mobile. Just let me know if you change your mind.

[warped pilot]

alright

[silk surge]

You rarely get these killstreaks on conquest. It's fun when it happens lol

[median tree]

Is game all right now? Haven’t played since February but have heard good things about recent updates

[silk surge]

It's a lot cleaner now than it was back in February. Still a handful of issues to adress, but a lot more playable.

[median tree]

Nice, and when is season 1 coming out? I think there’s a new map and specialist coming

[silk surge]

Early next month. Roughly 2-3 weeks from now.

[median tree]

Oh that’s sooner than I expected, great

All right thanks I’ll give it a try

[silk surge]

👍 👍

[stone cradle]

Yeah it feels more BF than 2042, I just played it yesterday

[tepid agate]

Any news yet on the weekly mission? I'm home in about 5 hours but it's usually up when I get there.

[stone cradle]

A free mobile game has more destruction than a AAA paid game

[glossy storm]

I must've registered back in March. Still haven't got it.

[stone cradle]

You can always just download the apk if you have an android phone

I haven't registered and was able to connect my EA account and jump right in

[silk surge]

Granted, it runs at 20 fps with lagspikes after they added more destruction.

[honest comet]

200 kills and i get best camo on m5

[silk surge]

I got the Ultimate Edition camo for M5, and I'm never switching it out.

[desert elbow]

Does it actually?

[arctic grove]

been a while lets check if dice were bothered to do anything and revitalize bf2042

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-sponge-bob-square-pants-blah-blah-annoyed-irritated-gif-5220026

oh, they are adding one map and one specialist in season 1 and the game is still dead, welp im out

well one new map and some new buildings after 6 months of content drought sure sounds great

[stone cradle]

Ran quite well on my phone without much lag.

[arctic grove]

the game is definitely being actively developed

[stone cradle]

It does, you can shoot quite a few buildings down with a tank, can't do that with 2042.

Though ofcourse the visuals look pretty bad, I've seen better looking mobile shooters

[silk surge]

Idk what ppl are complaining about. Attack helis are solid dogfighters.

[candid leaf]

The transport heli is stronger then the Attack Heli

[uncut bay]

yes, because someone thought it would be a good idea to make a large armored flying vehicle with the biggest arsenal of weapons in the entire roster

[woven acorn]

Love the transport helis, I like zipping people in and out of the combat zone and getting away untouched

If people want to jump in and use the weaponry onboard then that's up to them but I prefer just getting in and out without firing a bullet

[night vessel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/uxktc2/did_i_triggered_an_easter_egg_dialogue/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 this an easter egg ?

[chilly jacinth]

perhaps

[night vessel]

she be still waiting for them upgrades

[silk surge]

"Not yet angel, you promised me an upgrade to my wings"

But yeah, it's an easter egg. There's a rare chance that your character will reference the specialist that they're reviving.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodium2042/comments/up1y9f/heres_a_cool_hidden_40_feature_when_you_revive_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb

[patent lion]

Question right, I own the Gold edition of BF2042 on Steam, my PSN is linked to the same account my Steam account is linked to so cross progression should work.

Will the battle passes etc carry over as well if I decide to get the PS5 version and start playing there?

[grizzled whale]

no, console and pc progress is seperate

[patent lion]

That's not what they said at launch, you sure?

[grizzled whale]

im pretty sure they never said there would be cross platform progression

oh my bad, i was wrong

[patent lion]

In Battlefield 2042, your progress and items you’ve earned in-game follow you wherever you’re playing as long as your accounts are all linked to the same EA Account.

So, if you’re playing on PC, Xbox One and PlayStation 5, you can switch between them and not worry about losing progress or not having access to your favorite gun with the sweet weapon charm you just unlocked.

I just hope my Gold edition status transfers as well

That way I get the Battlepass, but I guess that's part of the progression

[white dagger]

Where was the Roadmap published? Twitter?

[upbeat sand]

on the battlefield breifing

you have to scroll down un until you find it

[white dagger]

Okay well. I’m not gonna search it if it’s not directly there. But thanks

Just wanted to see the reaction to this

[grizzled whale]

not much of a roadmap but there you go

[white dagger]

Thanks

New map and not new maps

Great. Sounds like an exciting Season 1

[grizzled whale]

even leaks showed 1 new map

But, they might add portal maps to AOW

[glossy storm]

Anyone using an emulator to play BF: Mobile?

[timid latch]

I might try that actually

[glossy storm]

Honestly, playing on a mobile just isn't for me.

Game's pretty decent, though.

[timid latch]

Although it’s not gonna be fun, to play against mobile players

Depending on how well the emulator is gonna work, you will achieve different levels of cyber bullying

[radiant thunder]

i'm about to play some BF 2042

[low timber]

That briefing only touched on Dice side of the things so I wonder what Ripple Effect has managed to do with Portal.

[timid latch]

Probably absolutely nothing

I hope I am wrong

I mean just imagine bf 1 content

[low timber]

I saw that you AI

[timid latch]

Horse vs tank

[uncut bay]

love this ai skin

[plush swallow]

The ai soldiers uniform represent the year 2042 more than the specialists one.

[grizzled whale]

wait

according to the new XP rules, can i make a co-op game against bots with full progression?

if so, im gonna grind my 2 last pistols

wait nvm

guess im stuck on grinding this "hardcore" mode

where it still takes 6 pistol shots to get a kill

[uncut bay]

pistol grind sucks

[grizzled whale]

if hardcore actually had more damage it would be fine

how is this hardcore

[uncut bay]

hardcore (unless you want to use unviable weapons that would benefit from hardcore, in which case go fuck yourself)

[cosmic trout]

You get progression on coop, it just stops after mastery 12

[grizzled whale]

and then theres people running around with 12m;s in hardcore

and noobtubers

[solid imp]

249 suppressed and bipod with FLIR on Metro hardcore. Yeeeee :)

That's really what I want back lol ( unironically)

[radiant thunder]

alright i got 2 new trophies

leveled up a bit too

[grizzled whale]

bruh and ofcourse they take out the hardcore mode right as i start playing

[tacit sphinx]

what’s the new weekly?

[uncut bay]

dunno its bugged

[tacit sphinx]

on the one hand i think thermal/NV optics would be cool to have back but on the other i’m also glad we don’t have them lol

[tacit sphinx]

try restarting to refresh it ig

[low timber]

It’s a skin for the K30

[uncut bay]

it's the black skin temporyal datamined

[tacit sphinx]

hmm

it’s nice, feels like it could have been a universal one though lol

honestly i’d love a universal black camo for guns

[uncut bay]

new modes

[low timber]

And I’m still waiting for Flashback Rush

[shy latch]

"100 damage with melee weapon" means 1 kill, right?

[low timber]

And odd that it’s smg rush, like smgs are probably the most used weapon class atm anyways.

[tacit sphinx]

oh boy that smg rush sounds like. an experience

[stone cradle]

Flashback vehicle rush

[uncut bay]

yep

[tacit sphinx]

pretty much yeah, unless you happen to kill them from lower health

[shy latch]

so in this case the new weekly for me is going to be Dozer time 😏

[uncut bay]

can't wait to see vectors 24/7 in smg rush

pure chaos

[next onyx]

Vectors are already being spammed here.

It's fucking cancer.

Who cares if the thing has shit ranged damage and velocity, You only have vertical recoil to work with.

[grizzled whale]

bro these fucking pistols are so damn weak

i still dont get why the T1 is the same for primaries as it is for secondaries

[uncut bay]

because zero thought went into them

[next onyx]

The g57 is pretty good.

But honestly it's a whatever.

[tacit sphinx]

yeah it probably could have been halved, but then it was just copy paste for everything which i guess is fair enough lol

g57 works way better in burst fire

[stone cradle]

They didn't put much thought into progression in the game

[uncut bay]

"oh a progression system? uhhh idk just make them get a bunch of kills with every gun"

[grizzled whale]

not when you are trying to T1 it

[shell ermine]

zero thought

Explain 2042 in two words

[tacit sphinx]

ok

[low timber]

When I use the G57 on burst I miss most of the shots.

[shell ermine]

Flashback Conquest needs to stick around until the Portal maps get added to AoW. As it stands it's the only tolerable way to play with 2042 factions.

[uncut bay]

they've said it will

[grizzled whale]

imagine your team is so bad that you still top the leaderboard when playing g57 only

[jovial quest]

[next onyx]

I've honestly got no idea why this game has no persistent lobbies outside of portal.

[jovial quest]

^

[jovial quest]

I’m 90% percent shure there is some type of SBMM, it’s very weak though

[next onyx]

Honestly that'd be your only reason for doing so.

[crisp junco]

Removing persistent lobbies just adds so much downtime between matches
And also means you will join half done matches way more often

[next onyx]

I'm not convinced but if there were something like that I wouldn't be surprised.

[uncut bay]

it's one of the main reasons i don't play aow. It's over a whole minute from the end of a match to the start of another

[jovial quest]

It kinda has to be, it would also kinda explain why the better players have a harder time finding different lobby’s

[shell ermine]

When talking about MWII Infinity Ward came out and said that persistent lobbies would break SBMM.

So I assume 2042 has a form of SBMM, even if hilariously it doesn't matter now due to the microscopic playerbase

[jovial quest]

Yes exactly

[shell ermine]

Every time I play AoW I get largely the same players in every round as long as I don't quit the matchmaking

[crisp junco]

I dont get why you even want sbmm in battlefield
The scale is too big to notice skill half the time

[jovial quest]

Because it improves the gameplay for the casual players

[shell ermine]

Its a way to "drive engagement" by catering to the lowest common denominator

[jovial quest]

It’s good for business but bad for hardcore gamers

[shell ermine]

We just need the fucking server browser back

[crisp junco]

Its better to have a mix of casuals and hardcores in one lobby tho
Just make sure the teams are balanced and youre good

[grizzled whale]

the g57 aim is just super inconsistent too

[crisp junco]

I cant use the g57
It gives me nausea

[grizzled whale]

about 90 kills left for T1