battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

but what mechanics? the grit tho yeah i can understand that, never understood the argument against 1s atmosphere, never once thought about that till i got to this discord, played since 2018

[solar minnow]

portal weapons are coming to AOW.

[solar tinsel]

I dont know if that was confirmed for S1 though

[clear hull]

lol i love how new MWII video is already getting more views than BF2042 recent video

[arctic grove]

i still want my boris santa and red nose ranger.

[solar tinsel]

I mean, we can only hope. I hope it is in time for S1

[edgy oriole]

yeah im hoping battle pass and skins were left out strategically.

[river trench]

Is portal weapons gonna be in aow in s1?

[solar minnow]

Yeah, I didn't see anything about that but I think it be easy to move over sense everything is already made to make them fit in. they use the same UI.

[solar tinsel]

I dont think the timing of that is confirmed, but the intent is to add some Portal weaposn to AoW eventually

[hearty flame]

a few i think

[solar tinsel]

Of course - it's silly its taken so long. I guess at most they need to add cosmetic support (which I hope they do) and unlock progressions (also something I hope they do)

[river trench]

So its confirmed that portal weapons gonna be added to aow

[solar tinsel]

Yes

[velvet sand]

Yes, assumption is they're added at the start of S1. Good change, but honestly they should have added portal content in feb/march to give folks something to stick around for.

[solar tinsel]

SOME Portal weapons at least, not all

[solar tinsel]

mhm

[fiery zenith]

I hope its not just portal weapons

[arctic grove]

bf1 has a lot of cinematic elements to it and does place a lot of focus on general atmosphere, but i think it helps portray the actual grittiness of ww1 as a violent contraption of obsolete and new warfare tactics and doctrines, but i never thought it did it too much whatsoever, which is why its something i'd like in a modern theme, since its not like war gets any prettier or cleaner in the modern era

[solar minnow]

BF3 weapons for sure are coming to AOW

[solar tinsel]

Listen nothing would surprise me these days'

[arctic grove]

what do y'all think about the next updates that they're working on? Do y'all like it or not, I want to read everyone what they think about it.

[fiery zenith]

Same lol

[hearty flame]

meh/10

[solar tinsel]

I think we havent seen enough of substance, even still

[solar minnow]

It's a good start I guess.

[arctic grove]

im fine with BF3 weapons and some bf2 weapons, also want to hear more about the gadgets some time, i think itll contribute to eventually gadget/gun locking classes

assuming that actually happens alongside specialist rework

[velvet sand]

We need to wait for the full reveal, but so far...it's alright. Not amazing, but alright.

[solar tinsel]

Even the roadmap is too vague and doesn't outline substantive items we're getting as part of seasons, or what game-changes are coming to Specialists

[solar minnow]

I wonder who the new specialist will be.

[prisma anvil]

I'll wait for the full change list or when it's fully implemented before I make any calls

[still vault]

Doesn't even go against the setting that much so I actually kinda like just adding them at this point.
During the events of 2042 there is probably a lack of everything, and I don't see why people would not use old weapons if that is what is available during a crisis.

[arctic grove]

so far its good, of course not to be praised

but its good

i took out celebrated since its actually needed in game

[civic mason]

well at least it seems that DICE is still dedicated to trying to make this game good

[velvet sand]

This. Makes sense to mix in some "older" weapons alongside more modern ones given the whole "world falling apart" theme.

[arctic grove]

yeah, it's alright, but we need more modern, new day guns, vechiles, planes, heli's, ammo and stuff, anti-rocket turrets or whatever they were called and more maps for sure

[civic mason]

so, that's fun

[solar minnow]

if they add WW2 weapons. it's gonna kill realism.

[solar tinsel]

To be honest the video and briefing still didnt even convince me of that

[arctic grove]

i mean its not like everyone at dice doesnt care now that 2042 got its initial profit lol

[velvet sand]

level of dedication is up for debate

[civic mason]

@velvet sand i mean that's pretty fucking fair but at least something is happening

[arctic grove]

i really wish they arent in aow

[velvet sand]

Something has to happen, they presold Y1 passes so they need to try to sell more of that content and deliver on their pre-sold commitments.

[prisma anvil]

Either way, whether we like the game or dislike it, both sides know S1 will make it or break it, its their last chance

[solar minnow]

I doubt they will add them but we'll see.

[hearty flame]

I mean something has to happen. but i dont think much of it is up to dedication

[arctic grove]

yes, global proxy war so it'd make sense to see ww2 weapons being fought with

but that doesnt matter if the US armys new billion dollar ngsw project gun is in the game lol

[stone cradle]

anybody liking the new mackay and boris?

[velvet sand]

So far, it's leaning on "break"

[river trench]

Ww2 weapons actually being used rn in wars

[arctic grove]

aka sig spear mcx, or m5a3 in game

[civic mason]

Yeah true

[solar minnow]

yeah in lower economic countries.

[stone cradle]

yeah, and no-pats are mercenaries, they probably all can't afford modern weapons.

[solar tinsel]

@civic mason - A lot of the briefing and video were superficial, with very minimal new or substantive items discussing changes. There were some, of course, many of which we already knew. I also hold the bar a bit higher than "we talked about stuff we mostly already knew" 😆

I agree the changes coming are good ones, and I agree its good they are communicating, it just feels like non-substantive though,= which worries me

[arctic grove]

they are funded and supplied by two of the worlds superpowers

[hearty flame]

lol people still be using the 1911 after two world wars

[velvet sand]

S1 seems to be delivering "the minimum we promised" while continuing to work to bring the game out of full-priced "Early Access"

[solar tinsel]

and the AK-47 right? ha

[solar minnow]

okay a pistol is okay. I'm talking rifles and SMG.

[solar tinsel]

well maybe not world wars but you get the idea

[prisma anvil]

Agreed, will wait for kaliedoscope though.... Hell, if angel doesn't scream "don't be sad" in my face every other round the game will probably be more tolerable

[arctic grove]

then again the AK-24 and M45A1 are modernized versions of each so i'd be fine with just those

[hearty flame]

mosins and sterlings in the middle east

[solar tinsel]

"Old weapons" dont necessarily mean they couldnt see use in a fictional 2042 world

Hell these are no-pats scrounging for whatever resources they have right?

[arctic grove]

but like i just said, if the US armys new ngsw project gun (m5a3, sig spear mcx) is in game, i dont see much reason to add a ton of ww2 guns into aow because theres a proxy war going on

[fossil trench]

I really miss 128bt

[civic mason]

Yeah it's just some Map and animation chages from what i've seen, and also the removal of content when it comes to yeeting 128 player breakthrough, like wat

also, 1 map for season 1.... 1

[arctic grove]

im fine with the m1 garand since thats not really just a ww2 gun but really a staple of firearms in general

[fossil trench]

It looks like they’re dropping support for HZ

[prisma anvil]

Yep

[solar minnow]

I thought you hated it lmao

[civic mason]

[stone cradle]

seems like no 128bt will be permanent judging by the new blogpost.

[solar tinsel]

The BT 128 removal is whatever for me, I enjoyed it, but I get it. I just found it funny they used gaslighting messaging again rather than be like "yeah we need to consoloidate our player base"

[velvet sand]

That's all they committed to, and that's all they're delivering. Nothing additional to compensate for the long delay and super rough launch.

[prisma anvil]

Not surprising really that they're dropping it

[fiery solar]

New mackay looks like a virgin but new Boris looks like a fucking Chad Rico Rodriguez

[arctic grove]

tbh 128bt was all i played for the last few months

[fossil trench]

I never hated it. I’m neutral on it. But I miss it

[fiery solar]

The chaos is what I like in battlefield like girls

[next onyx]

It's not completely against the notion that they'd still be using F35's 35 years in the future with minor revisions.

[civic mason]

I fucking hate EA

[tender folio]

[arctic grove]

also personally never touched hz, but that isnt to undermine the importance it had to people and the disappointment for dice deciding to sort of move away from it

[prisma anvil]

The amount of overhauls needed for HZ to be enjoyable would just be too much effort

[solar tinsel]

I think DICE needs to free themselves of the shackles of 2042 development and just start making a new BF game built the way the fans want it

[next onyx]

I just noticed what I said lol.

[white geyser]

What? and how they gonna fix HZ? rework it and add specific content?

[velvet sand]

Blame DICE, not EA.

[low timber]

They always said one 2042 map per season, but do they count Portal maps that Ripple Effect are working with in the latest post?

[stone cradle]

good, barely anybody likes that mode, seriously, hands up if any of you people still regularly play HZ and enjoy it

[solar tinsel]

One in the same at that point

[next onyx]

Who knows really Marse.

[prisma anvil]

hallo, mein bruder

[solar minnow]

if people voice there opinion about 128BT. They'll bring it back.

[velvet sand]

That's the neat thing, they're not fixing it! Just abandoning it.

[tender folio]

Hello, bro. long time no see

[fiery solar]

Especially during the events that had been happening those years before 2042

[next onyx]

They'll probably re add it when they properly balance it, Whatever.

[prisma anvil]

Long time bucko

[low timber]

I really hope it’s just the 2042 map and not all the maps.

[tender folio]

guess I come at the right time. lol .. with new news update

[velvet sand]

Doubtful, forums have been blowing up with responses begging for it back and it'll probably never come back. Too much additional development time needed to make the maps work for 128p breakthrough and they'll run into the same performance issues.

[solar tinsel]

With new maps not supporting HZ, I have to imagine that HZ wont get any future updates either

[civic mason]

I blame DICE management and EA. It's all about fucking profits for them rather than wanting a good game. The devs are trying their best with the backwards ass time windows their given

[fiery solar]

Battlefield 1 and 2142 portal when

[next onyx]

I wouldn't be surprised if the F/A Super hornet were still being used.

[velvet sand]

DICE management is correct. EA, based on history, bears a minimum of responsibility.

[solar minnow]

Yeah but once all the maps are fixed there is no point in not adding it.

[arctic grove]

for those who cant switch to f35 definitely although most NATO countries are already planning to get ahold of the f35

[solar tinsel]

The way I see it is, I view the issues with 2042 as a result of upper-management decisions (between yes, both EA and DICE) rather than line-level dev work

[stone cradle]

2142 portal and I will forgive this game lmao.

[hearty flame]

im betting they kill portal being adding more to it

[fiery solar]

All that matters in a vehicle is blue lights to tell if it’s futuristic or not

[next onyx]

Ah that makes sense. There are two variants of the Super hornet.

[civic mason]

that is quite literally what i said, yes.

[tender folio]

are we really getting 1 map?

[velvet sand]

Sure there is: They aren't updating the maps with 128p breakthrough in mind or building new maps around 128p breakthrough.

[arctic grove]

HZ was another selling point for them. I remember they tried really hard to hype HZ up lmao.

[prisma anvil]

I saw the news thingy as well, and immediately knew, chat would be on fire,

[stone cradle]

I want to play titan mode in 4k 60fps, and on console, would be a dream.

[fiery solar]

I never played 2142 but I wanna shoot down a zeppelin with a mech

[hearty flame]

ya just the one

[velvet sand]

Plus a few ported over Portal maps, but one "new" map.

[next onyx]

Technically they're still using the super hornet today, 40 years on.

[solar tinsel]

Ha Titian Mode was ahead of its time

[arctic grove]

some still use AV-8B harriers too but sheesh i'd expect those to be replaced with f18s at least lol

[next onyx]

There's two different variants but they're pretty much the same.

[civic mason]

EA is the publisher of the game and have been known to push studios to their limits, what's your reasoning for offloading the blame from EA?

[low timber]

@next onyx what gadgets do you think they cherry-pick for us? There are quite a few in portal that doesn’t have a 2042 skin already.
BF3 Claymore, Javelin, Eod Bot and Soflam (stationary)
BC2 M136 AT4 and Mortar Strike

[white geyser]

Anyways, I’m still waiting for them to rework solo/co-op, they need to separate it and make co-op the actual separate mode and online matchmaking to find players playing co-op mode

[velvet sand]

Reporting on the failures of ME:A and Anthem, which placed the overwhelming majority of the blame for those disasters on BioWare rather than EA.

[solar tinsel]

I don't think you can separate the two though. At the end of the day DICE is an EA company so the line blurs between upper-management at DICE and their connection to EA

[solar minnow]

there building the maps around infantry focus so I can't see why it would be a problem but we'll see. I'm betting we'll see it again as a limited time game mode to see how it goes.

[tender folio]

yes .. on Facebook, every official Battlefield's post always has "Laugh" reaction more than normal "like" or "love" lol

[arctic grove]

hz and portal are cool but chances are like some are saying here portal will eventually meet the coffin, although im not really suprised since aow is technically the premier selling point

[fiery solar]

Offline battlefield

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind it if they added the SMAW as a fast rocket launcher option. But to be frank I'm not even sure.

[stone cradle]

Yeah, by having HZ drop the lore of the game or something. Seems like they scrapped that lol

[civic mason]

🤨

[solar minnow]

I really want to see how they'll fix Hourglass.

[velvet sand]

Portal will get killed so Ripple can work on "other experiences" and we'll have 1/3 of the modes they sold this game on actually supported, lol.

[solar tinsel]

whatever group of managers and leaders that decided to make 2042 what it was supposed to be, is where the issue formed I think

[fiery solar]

We should get put into a mission at the start of every season like fortnite that we can’t leave so we get a look at what the story is

[next onyx]

But yeah a stationary SOFLAM would definitely be pretty good.

[solar tinsel]

I assume that included both EA + DICE upper management

[prisma anvil]

I mean, to be fair, the changes are looking promising, doubtful about how well they'll finally turn out, but let's see

[low timber]

That wasn’t in the list
But yeah, BF4 style launchers with different stats works.

[civic mason]

i don't get your reasoning, that says that EA is literally to blame. wat

[white geyser]

I got bored playing by myself in solo, should have made co-op a separate option and co-op online matchmaking

[stone cradle]

That's a pretty good idea ngl.

[next onyx]

Oh I saw that as your version on what you'd think would be cool to bring in. My bad.

[solar tinsel]

It's promising, but also kind of like a car you bought a year ago said "congrats! you've unlocked the ability to use airbags!"

[tender folio]

yeah, new map re-design is great. But drama about this game is always fire. lol

[next onyx]

EOD Bot maybe? They'd be funny.

[velvet sand]

Read the Kotaku articles on ME:A/Anthem failures. The failure of EA was being hands-off and letting BioWare waste years of time with nothing to show for it.

[hearty flame]

EA literally gave bioware the rope and bioware decided to hang themselves with it. those failures arent on ea

[next onyx]

Javelin would be pretty cool as a heavy laser guided launcher.

Long ranged option.

[low timber]

I did say stuff that doesn’t have a 2042 skin already, so M5 Carl-Gustav is pretty much the SMAW and RPG-7

[prisma anvil]

That's been the feeling since day 1. Let's hope S1 finally changes that

[fiery solar]

I just don’t want the seasons to be explained in a single cutscene and new location

[arctic grove]

yeah, i personally want to see how its treated in the future before i think anything of that but i definitely would not be suprised

[civic mason]

over my dead body am i ever reading a Kotaku article but i get what you mean now

[velvet sand]

I mean, their own survey floated abandoning content support for Portal already.

[low timber]

I’d love the AT4, as it’s pretty much the SRAW from BF4

[prisma anvil]

Hey, and Boris actually looks nice. Angel doesn't sound like a complete tool

[civic mason]

ahhh ok

[eternal storm]

there was barely any content in it to begin with lol

[vocal adder]

so are all specialists getting a rework with there models ?

[arctic grove]

i kinda hope so

[arctic grove]

But the love letter was promised to us bf veterans...... yeah i wouldnt doubt it if they did kill it off too.

[hearty flame]

Imagine paying 100+ for this game only for it to gradually get slimmed down to nothing

[velvet sand]

It's not bad for launch, but not knowing if it's even getting more content at this point is pretty sad.

[fiery zenith]

prepare to be immersed

[stone cradle]

Judging by mackay and Boris's probably

[velvet sand]

Can't wait to see another 20 Boris's running around for TOTAL IMMERSION IN THE CLONE WARS

[fiery zenith]

lets focus on fun

[eternal storm]

but when they said portal was coming everyone thought itd be almost all maps, guns, attachments from older titles, not 5% of them lol

[fiery zenith]

capturing what it's all about

[arctic grove]

it really seems like that lol, damn, actual finesse

[low timber]

Claymore I can see coming to 2042 as in one of the first trailers it could be seen in the Gadget slot.

[next onyx]

Yeah I read it but brain didn't register LOL.

[arctic grove]

nobody wants to main boris anymore because of his trash turret

[vocal adder]

i just hope the running animations get changed because its awful haha

[velvet sand]

They never said they were porting ALL of the previous games into Portal, that's a failure of consumers to read about the mode.

[next onyx]

The only people the PKP nerf affected are the boris mains anyways.

[solar tinsel]

^

[prisma anvil]

Probably yes, I'd say some less problematic ones like Irish, dozer, might see less changes overall tho. But McKay, Sundance, Boris, angel, Rao too maybe, should see changes

[clear hull]

!!

[low timber]

And the tracer dart is going to be interesting, does it stay secondary or move to gadget category for 2042z

[tender folio]

the woody guy (sry, I forget name) looks more bada$$ now

[arctic grove]

i liked Vs animations, wouldnt mind them coming to 2042, but i also understand a lot of them were annoying to players, so im not sure

[arctic grove]

it worked well for Halo MCC

[fiery solar]

What if they made it like watch dogs multiplayer where YOU see yourself as the main character but everyone sees you as an npc and just make 12 different models of the same specialist or everyone the AI soldiers but you and your squad are the main specialists

[eternal storm]

normally i agree people are dumb, but with this entire game the fault is 100% with devs and publishers.

[low timber]

The tracer dart needs a buff tho, like once you actually do hit the heli/jet they just need to flare to destroy the magnetic beacon.

[arctic grove]

ehh

[glossy storm]

I'm annoyed and tired by the comments that go 'dice just needed to remaster bf4 and release it as bf2042!!!!!!!!!!!!'

[civic mason]

ANyways the video shows that at least something is happening for this game. Will it save it? chances are slim to fucking none but it's better than nothin'

[next onyx]

Maybe not save but it'll make it less of an annoyance to play Carby.

[arctic grove]

its what the people want.

[arctic grove]

meanwhile on 2042s trailer premier on youtube:

BF4 CLONE

LOOKS LIKE BF4 THIS IS GONNA SUCK

[solar tinsel]

For sure, but not specifically the expectation that ALL BF games would be in Portal ha

[next onyx]

I feel your pain, I want a game to play as well.

[arctic grove]

"ANOTHER BF4?"

[prisma anvil]

Funny thing is right, remember the kind of redesign I did for cowboy Mackay?.... I like how they've adapted the beard and the neck scarf from that one . I know that those changes were probably sourced from multiple places, but still, feels nice

[solar tinsel]

The failure of BF2042 to sustain a content stream and yield MORE content for Portal - absolutely on EA/DICE

[low timber]

I think the Kaleidoscope changes are great. Just need to see it I action.

[midnight whale]

When is portal populated, just wondering so I can hop on at peak time

[velvet sand]

That was also a stand-alone product that simply remastered older titles for the most part, vs. Portal being whole-ass remakes.

[civic mason]

I honestly kinda doubt that but we will have 2 see

[white geyser]

They can add BF4 in the portal and also it’s what the people wants

[vocal adder]

Adding the battlefield 4 maps and maybe adding the bf4 animations into the game it might work. it will take time but it would be worth it

[low timber]

Oh yeah Way, I’m already at 1014/1200 on the SFAR Mastery

[vocal adder]

like replacing the 2042 animations with battlefield 4 yum

[civic mason]

I mean it would be pretty neato

[arctic grove]

although i'd like a bf3 "remaster" with elements from 1 and V combined while still adhering closely to a realistic US vs RU theme

[solar tinsel]

The sad thing is, BF2042 could have succeeded, even with Specialists, if just SO many of the various areas hadn't failed to land

[fiery zenith]

battlefield 4 will play better outside of portal, realistically nobody wants to play that game anymore

[solar tinsel]

I've always said Specialists alone wouldnt make or break 2042, and I stand by that today

[vocal adder]

Specialists lore needs to be reworked make them faction based

if there was different specialists for different factions it would make sense

[eternal storm]

dude fuck the 'lore', the core game is shit and needs fixed and content

[glossy storm]

DICE seriously needed more time to develop 2042. A lot of the changes they mentioned seemed like things that they wanted to include at release.

[arctic grove]

only problem with faction basing them is one side gets grapple, one side gets wingsuit

neither side can use the opposites gadget so unique advantages for both sides are totally lost

[white geyser]

If they announced BF4 is coming to portal, they better not forget all the weapons and vehicles to bring them back, not one single weapon and vehicle is missing or we gonna have to tell them to update it

[arctic grove]

its too complicated for really any sort of solution

devs amirite?

[glossy storm]

Like the traversal and map changes.

[vocal adder]

well since the thing they showed us today i'm a little hopeful now

[glossy storm]

I'm only disappointed by the fact that they didn't mention anything regarding levolution in Kaleidoscope.

Hopefully, they're working on it.

[arctic grove]

i really would not doubt that at all, we have no idea if those were still things underway and the game got the sudden order to get out to players

but from the look of it thats very plausible

[solar tinsel]

Yeah, thats an understatement ha. They needed more time and/or needed to not go down a rabbit hole making a game idea that obviously didnt have legs

[vocal adder]

doesn't help either when 2042 was a battle royal at the beginning and must of changed it mid development

[solar tinsel]

Then again, I wonder now if they committed to the initial design, if it would have been a better game. Hard to say

[velvet sand]

Better game? Probably. Better Battlefield game...probably not.

[solar tinsel]

Mhm. Well said

[arctic grove]

thats the thing that sucks about the whole thing, like V would have been dope with the eastern front, italians and French, which was content that couldve been expected had support not been pulled

and who knows how 2042 could have been if it had even more time, a lot of potential and so much of it will never be seen

[civic mason]

anyways im gonna go back to not playing this game but make snide comments on it every now and then, have a good day, all

[arctic grove]

makes sense

[vocal adder]

pretty sure the soviet union was in the files must of got scrapped because 2042 😂

[arctic grove]

i heard both the soviet union and italians were in game files, i could be wrong tho, i only know the soviets for sure

[white geyser]

What’s the name of the map where you fight on the ocean and it’s been on the previous battlefield games for long time?

[arctic grove]

i only downloaded V in like 2020 for free cause ps plus but when i play it i think about how cool so much more of that content would be

[vocal adder]

wake island ?

[white geyser]

Wake Island yes! why not bring it back and add it on 2042 so they can add attack boats

[eternal storm]

lol thatll nevcer happen

[white geyser]

You’re denial, if you can’t give what they want, go back to cod clown

[prisma anvil]

No, it wouldn't have, come on, imagine 4 more specialists with voicelines worse than angel, maps with the same or less cover and blank open spaces to gawk at the nothingness

[silk surge]

The way that they are referring to maps in Season 1 as "The season 1 map" basically sounds like a confirmation that season one will have a single map and nothing more. That feels so underwhelming considering how long it has taken for the first season to launch.

[arctic grove]

Only boat we will ever get is the one in the main menu

it just seems like it makes the most obvious sense to wait until everything is in place for release that way the content cycle isnt largely things that should have already been in the game, with either the concepts or content actually prepared barely or never seeing the light of day

[velvet sand]

CM explicitly confirmed 1 map in the forum thread.

[arctic grove]

The game as a whole is underwelming

[velvet sand]

So yes, underwhelming and disappointing for the "WHOLE STUDIO" working on it for 7+ months.

[arctic grove]

then publish it at 60-130 usd

[low timber]

Yeah, doesn’t really tell that is it one 2042 map on one map in its entirety.

[vocal adder]

also by the sounds of it is all the portal weapons coming to the main game ?

[arctic grove]

But lets have copium and hopium since some of us spent 100+ bucks on the game. lets be positive and make the best of it.

no and i really hope they dont all come to the game

[velvet sand]

Some* we'll have to find out which when they update on S1 content more explicitly

[prisma anvil]

Some will

[silk surge]

I think the dev who claimed that the whole studio is still on 2042 was bullshitting. His last tweet heavily implied that EA or DICE had told him to shut the fuck up behind the scenes. There is still probably a decent chunk of devs still on 2042, but I'm certain that a lot of them have moved on to pre-production of the next title.

[arctic grove]

bc2 and bf3 guns? im fine with that

1942?

jk, like i keep saying tho, i'd be fine with the garand but thats about it

[vocal adder]

hopefully the m16 and as val

[low timber]

They said in the video that they’ll

Cherry-pick
Some weapons and gadgets from Portal, so no, not everything.

[prisma anvil]

Iconic WW2 guns will probably make it in, k98, M1 garand, will probably come in

[velvet sand]

Wouldn't be surprised. MArcus is always on Twitter talking about how much they want to talk about BF but can't because higher ups say nah.

[low timber]

But I do wish for the P90

[arctic grove]

dice, please cherry pick the m16, m4a1, as val, and a few others ill have to go look in portal gun selection at so i can see what i want (it must be added)

[vocal adder]

yeah i can see the mp40 also making it in

[white geyser]

Some of the weapons and vehicles is missing both BC2 and BF3, they need to double check in the portal and see if they can bring it back

[vocal adder]

something tells me portal is also being scrapped just like hazard zone

[solar tinsel]

Maybe, but if they werent pivoting maybe they'd have had the sense to go "wow these VO lines kinda suck" or "wow our maps are kind of weak"

[arctic grove]

in all seriousness i like 2042s guns which are really just modernized and slightly visually different versions of current firearms, something i dont want to be overly diluted with standard 2022 and prior decade looking firearms

[solar tinsel]

Instead they were busy trying to reverse engineer a BF game into what they had

[velvet sand]

Was it that survey question explicitly asking if players would be fine if Ripple abandoned new content for Portal that makes you think this? : P

[silk surge]

I think that has a lot to do with the reception of BFV and Battlefront 2. They have become too afraid to directly engage with the community, because they specifically remember that time where one of their comments became the most downvoted comment on Reddit.

[velvet sand]

The cowards approach to communications, sure.

[arctic grove]

for example, the BF3 M4A1,

im fine with the M4A1, just change it up a bit to fit a 20 yrs into the future theme, the M4 will still be around by then

[low timber]

Going to be interesting tho, like they need new magazines for different ammo types and sizes and most likely use the 2042 sights only. And wonder about the universal and T1 skins.

[vocal adder]

no its not that i just get that gut feeling its gonna be scrapped just like i had with hazard zone and that happened haha

[white geyser]

I still have BF4 but I hardly play it, until they announce to add it in the portal, after season update and have to wait another map for them to fix the game

[prisma anvil]

The entire reason they're pivoting is cuz we pointed out how bad those two and other things were.. the game might have been a might more fluid if they had more time.. but the core design issues would've been the same if not worse

[next onyx]

Been wondering about that too Marse considering about that Marse.

Actually interestingly, The Apache in bf3 (No longer the AHZ Viper for somereason) takes in skins from 2042.

[arctic grove]

if the datamined Comanche is in game, it seems like a reasonable near-future replacement for the AH-1Z

but yeah its pretty weird how the AH-1Z isnt at least in bf3 portal lol

[lusty crescent]

i gotta ask something. i havent played since january. is the game worth patching atm?

[low timber]

I think it was something to do with the Viper trademark? Not really sure, and the Apache has some slight differences so the skins aren’t 1 to 1

[next onyx]

It's worth giving a go if you want to see how it is now.

[arctic grove]

wait for summer, best advice

[next onyx]

Yeah.

[silk surge]

I'm actually excited for the new animations. The movement animation that they showed looks so much better.

[velvet sand]

wait until S1 at this point

[prisma anvil]

Come back in June for the biggest impact, biggest changes coming then

[vocal adder]

the game is worth playing now mate its stable way much better but wait for s1

[lusty crescent]

aite cool thanks guys

[solar tinsel]

No I mean like pivot from the Royale game they allegedly were making prior to changing gears to make a more traditional BF game, all prior to launch

[white geyser]

Lets not forget BF 2142 and that game does exist because someone didn’t know about it. Remaking the maps from 2142 and added to portal, that will take a lot of work but they can try

[next onyx]

Gunplay has been been given a massive patch up, some of the bugs aren't as annoying but unfortunately some bad bits of bad balance like the maps and specialists remain.

Err what?

[prisma anvil]

Ah that, idk, imo a full on paid br wouldve flopped

[arctic grove]

its going to be really great for adjusting aim to account for player movement with the more realistic and telegraphed animation, i also like it a lot

some people here argued it didnt change much, but i saw how i could apply it to do quite a lot in a game where you shoot people

[solar tinsel]

If only, 2142 had some awesome maps. Not to mention Titan mode I think would have done well in todays gaming landscape

[stone cradle]

Bring Titan mode to portal and I'll buy 2042 instantly

[viscid heart]

anyone wanna gift me this game? its my bday

[velvet sand]

Haven't tried since 4.1, reading a lot about guns feeling more like CoD without much in the way of recoil/bloom after the update?

[vocal adder]

the maps is what i find really annoying right now and the lack of new maps

[lusty crescent]

i just want my class system bacc

[next onyx]

Me too.

[velvet sand]

soz, never coming back in 2042, specialists are here to stay and you'll like them as much as DICE likes them

[vocal adder]

same

[solar tinsel]

Hell, we have 2142 to thank for the modernized 4-Class System, for those who are fans of it

[arctic grove]

thats honestly a compliment if we're talking about something like the MW19 gunplay, recoil is reasonable and i can hit shots while automatically firing with any ranged optic

[stone cradle]

I want full customising like in BFV

[next onyx]

I liked how classes were originally balanced but for this game it's worth a go.

[haughty dagger]

Honestly I think the current system is fine but would like to see them do a trail of what the class system would feel like in a portal mode for a weekend

[white geyser]

I mentioned it on the feedback on their website last time before they bring back voice chat

[arctic grove]

problem with 2042s gunplay is the recoil really gets in the way of doing anything except tap firing with ranged optics cause of how awful the recoil effect is, i dont have that problem in cod, more specifically mw19

[velvet sand]

I generally disagree. Two very different types of shooters. CoD is pure arcade shooter and it makes sense for guns to have no recoil. BF is a more team/squad/"tactical" (sorta kinda) combined arms game that's historically made weapon control a bigger part of what players need to do to be good.

[next onyx]

Recoil feels a bit weird in this game.

[arctic grove]

mw19 definitely has recoil but both games have you play as someone who should know how to control it. 2042s gunplay doesnt really seem like it

[haughty dagger]

Everyone says class system was balanced but they changed what classes could use what weapons every game. I do not want locked weapons

[velvet sand]

But that's...good. You should never want to go full auto on a target that's like 80 meters away. Should be single/controlled bursts at that range.

[prisma anvil]

I dobt even know why they thought a paid br would've worked especially cuz 1. Warzone and apex 2. Firestorm's failure, 3. Br in general being on the decline..... Pretty sure that's a case where they had to pivot, or it'd been more dead in the water than now @solar tinsel

[next onyx]

Honestly Taxes if you play bf5 they had a really balanced system going on.

Supports in that game had more snipey assault rifles in LMG's but assaults were still really useful in well... Assaulting.

[arctic grove]

anyone seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6XyWDWDAK8

[arctic grove]

even at closer distances, ranged optics are terrible to work with lol, the recoil effect (which is fine with red dot sights and low magnified optics) is just awful on anything higher than like 2x

[next onyx]

And recon while having a ghetto submachine gun with flares, It was still super useful.

[haughty dagger]

I’m not a fan of old period shooters. I played both BF1 and BFV and don’t really care for them.

[solar tinsel]

Id assume it would have been F2P if they decided to continue that route, but lord only knows with EA

[velvet sand]

Higher magnification scopes are always going to be bad for closer range engagements. That's the point >.>

[stone cradle]

I am, actually surprised they're changing the voicelines for the specialists too

[solar tinsel]

yup we all talking about it ha

[arctic grove]

3 and 4x should still be viable options

[next onyx]

I keep on forgetting bf5 is a ww2 shooter cause all I just see is a game.

[still vault]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/923899875639304232/spinthedontbesadcube.gif

[arctic grove]

i hope the still let me someday disable voicelines Xd

[haughty dagger]

Except those have changed from previous games as well it’s not as balanced as everyone thinks.

[next onyx]

How?

[arctic grove]

close quarters 10-30? nah of course not lmao

most engagements in this game are slightly further than that and using magnified optics is still a pain

[solar tinsel]

I'd attribute that more to the severely aggressive DoF effect on anything past 1.5x

[velvet sand]

I mean they are. I use a 3x (I think) on AC42 and it works fine. Drawbacks for close range engagements with the scope and weapon, but that's because the setup (weapon and scope) are built for mid-long range engagements.

[prisma anvil]

True, this is ea we're on about

[low timber]

It is a bit odd they there is only one 4x scope which isn’t even available most guns while ACOG could even be slapped on a pump action shotgun.

[arctic grove]

I'm 5 minutes in, the map changes are lackluster at best. Kaleidoscope Sandbags Edition

[arctic grove]

yeah but are still annoying at medium ranges is what im saying

[next onyx]

The Raven 4x it's weird.

[solar tinsel]

To save you some time, there isnt much new of substance

[next onyx]

I guess they assume everyone is used to the 3x scope.

[low timber]

It does look like a sniper scope

[haughty dagger]

Lack luster.

[next onyx]

6x on a 870 MCS yes?

[solar tinsel]

• Some Portal guns eventually coming to AoW
• New animations for player movement
• New facial and VO lines for specialists (eventually)
• New maps will not support HZ

^ Thats pretty much the bulk of substantive new info in the vid

[arctic grove]

i feel like the vertical recoil effect the newest dice post said would be changed would help counter that, cause its really just red dot sight for everything except genuinely long range, thats how bad it feels

[velvet sand]

I mean, late as fuck but it honestly looks like they finally finished devleopment on the map with all the changes.

[low timber]

40x on Mares leg in BF4

[next onyx]

Brilliant.

[silk surge]

They should fix the spread on the BF3/BC2 weapons before adding them to AOW. Newer players will think that they have hitreg issues when in reality, it's a different type of gunplay that relies heavily on spread-control.

[prisma anvil]

Still waiting for the high zoom scopes

[arctic grove]

like unless someone is literally 50+ meters away the only enjoyable optics are dot sights

[tiny imp]

Is confirmed Modern warfare will launch 28 oct. At same time when season 2 for BF 2042 will drop

[next onyx]

Unfortunately henry those spread levels are accurate to what they are in game.

[low timber]

I do kinda miss the BF4 12x

[haughty dagger]

They said they’re going to work on those guns before they come to AOW. They also said only some guns will come not all

[arctic grove]

whereas in mw19 you can actually use magnified optics and still be able to aim and the recoil is reasonable

I figured as much, it's just funny how they present those "improvements"

[next onyx]

I tried playing vanguard and sniping on arms race, I had to pick between a 5x and a 10x. Or a hybrid sight where I couldn't hold my breath, It was genuinely annoying lol.

[solar tinsel]

"shackles" has become the new "legacy features" and "brutal expectations" term too

[stone cradle]

really? how unfortunate

[arctic grove]

honestly i can only use mw19 for my point since i dont really play cold war at all and i never picked up Vanguard

[tiny imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cUeeTmyWds

[next onyx]

6 to 8x is a good zoom but nooo you need to be right up in their face.

[arctic grove]

i find it weird the guys look half off time not camera instead off talk to us talk to freeman. when the clearly have couple cameras diffrent angles. it annoyed me somehow 😁 freeman did atleast haha

[low timber]

Need to see right up their Nosehair Noshahr Canals.

[arctic grove]

magnified optics are pretty annoying in fps in general

[lusty kindle]

New specjalists look on september? 🤣

[next onyx]

Absolutely Marse.

[lusty kindle]

So faast

[velvet sand]

Everyone is getting black plastic trash bag outfits.

[next onyx]

Going back to the bren on bf5 it's so weird how easy it is to control.

[arctic grove]

like ghost recon breakpoint, that acog is so awful to use outside of 3rd person aiming lmao the recoil effect in that game is so bad

only so many games can have me actually want to use magnified optics alongside the gun recoil

[next onyx]

Honestly I would rarely go 3x on something that fires more than 600 rounds a minute.

It just fucks with your general aim.

[arctic grove]

i can kill easyer people with a dot in bf 2042 mid to long then x3 xd

[low timber]

Imagine a minigun with a 8x

[lusty kindle]

the speed of adding new content is actually embarrassing

[next onyx]

Because of the recoil you end up over compensating.

And that makes everything whack.

[silk surge]

Why are specialists such a colossal dealbreaker for some people? I personally prefer the class system... but damn. Specialists aren't THAT bad, are they?

[lusty kindle]

One map rework on the season is bad joke

[arctic grove]

specialist is the last i worry about bf2042

[next onyx]

Ehhhh it seems to be a mix of balance and "if it isn't broken don't fix it" which I can see but eh. I don't really care.

[lusty kindle]

I agree

[next onyx]

I'm more concerned how this game is balanced than anything else.

[arctic grove]

the specialists arent a problem to me at all, i just want milsim skins and im fine with them there

[next onyx]

I couldn't care if anyone calls it cringe cause that's irrelevant to the gameplay.

[arctic grove]

my biggest problem with game balancing is the transports balance

[velvet sand]

Personally...they have no narrative reason to exist. They have no real gameplay reason to exist. Their abilities grossly break the "BF format" and make balance completely impossible ever. Tack on bad visual design and voice lines and you have a lot of things to dislike. Legit the only "good" thing abou9t the system IMO is the open weapon/gadget selection.

[white geyser]

Replace HZ with Titan mode

[next onyx]

Have something that plays well instead of bitching about lines a character says.

[lusty kindle]

Skins, voice lines are biiig problem

[prisma anvil]

As way said, the first taste with specialists was so bad that people can't think to like em anymore. Especially over the traditional system.

[solar tinsel]

Especially considering how many teams are on the game. I truly believe it is a much smaller team on 2042 now. The content release cadence really indicates that

[arctic grove]

playing armor in 2042 is pretty awful when sundance can glide across the entire map to behind you to blow your turret off while you dont suspect anything

[next onyx]

Bf5 had elites with voice lines and I didn't see anyone bitching about them.

[velvet sand]

I keep saying, the spring/summer interns are running live-ops for 2042.

[velvet sand]

EYUP

[silk surge]

I also think that the balancing is the absolute biggest issue with the specialists. But as you said, non-restricted loadouts and some of the gadgets are fun.

[next onyx]

Absolutely, Armour is imbalanced, Maps cater to vehicle play, Etc.

[arctic grove]

thats probably my best example of how specialists genuinely intrude on core elements of battlefield

[stone cradle]

lmao, literally asking to be stepped on.

[lusty kindle]

Most of the teams have been working on the next Battlefield for a long time in my opinon

[arctic grove]

You think these interns are getting paid???

[velvet sand]

Don't let a vehicle player read this, they will have THOUGHTS

[low timber]

I can’t remember them speaking much than death screams and the introduction trailers

[prisma anvil]

Cuz they were paid content way, more egregious in a way, but not shoved down your throat, it was a purely personal decision to buy and equip them

[next onyx]

The average vehicle player knows that these maps cater to them.

[stone cradle]

a fact lol. all that remains is a skeleton crew on this game

[velvet sand]

If this were the US no, but Sweden probably has better laws about this so they're getting paid.

[arctic grove]

Bro they already did my bolte dirty 3 TIMES

sneak up on me in 4 with c4 to kill me? i cant be mad at you for that, you had to avoid detection and it payed off

but in 2042 its just too damn easy and makes armor awful

[solar tinsel]

I think it's a bit much to call folks interns and insult individuals. Whats clear is that its not a large team that isn't able to keep up with the demand of content necessary for a healthy live service game

[arctic grove]

I keep forgetting this team of devs are in Sweden.

[low timber]

I am a bit worried that the 1942 maps gets added to the AoW rotation.

[next onyx]

Even if they made gadgets class based, Sundance would still have access to TNT.

[velvet sand]

I'm sure every individual working on BF2042 is doing their level best. But what seems clear is that the "level best" for DICE as a whole nowadays is...pretty lame and underwhelming.

[next onyx]

Oh yeah Battle of the bulge and Al alamein are just bad.

[arctic grove]

AGMs are also absolutely awful to armor as well, 2 passes and youre dead

good luck playing armor on most of the maps which largely provide negligible overhead cover

just dont let sundance go full map :p

[prisma anvil]

I still don't get why nearly every vehicle in this game needed some form of an explosive autocannon with splash damage

[silk surge]

Hey, at least we finally got a roadmap

[arctic grove]

yeah sundances glider needs to perform more like a glider, gravity is in constant effect so you need to be more dragged to the ground, but with the way it works now you can glide from the hourglass skyscrapers to the stadium

[solar tinsel]

Again, I don't pretend to claim if this is a result of talent. We dont work there, so I dont think we can say what is going on. It could be talent, it could be staffing, it could be direction. The reasons are ultimately irrelevant for anyone who doesnt work there. The results are what matter and the result is, theres no content support

[low timber]

I’ve been hit by those dam AGM missiles while inside the El Alamein hangar, shot trough the smalles skylight.

[velvet sand]

It's something! But it's also hilarious because it reads like a roadmap for an unfinished Early Access game lol

[silk surge]

I'm noticing that map is in singular in the roadmap, god damnit DICE......

[next onyx]

Oh that armour. I mean armour armour not tanks.

[arctic grove]

agreed atleast the fixed that freeze when hit by splash dmg before xd

[arctic grove]

ahhh my bad i gotcha now

[stone cradle]

Guess all we're getting is exposure(datamined map)

[solar tinsel]

Yeah its not a very good roadmap. "New weapons, new vehicles". How many? How are they unlocked, etc.

[velvet sand]

I have zero problems continuing to point 100% of the blame for all of 2042's failures on whoever is currently in charge of DICE/BF teams. That includes Vince at this point.

[silk surge]

So yeah, one single map for season 1 is officially confirmed 😦

[prisma anvil]

Yeah

[solar tinsel]

"More Community Spotlights" - thats not even a feature

[prisma anvil]

If we're lucky might get a portal map or two

[bright wharf]

Hopefully they will bring more Portal maps to AOW

[velvet sand]

CM double confirmed in the thread about this. Just one map, please be excited.

[stone cradle]

probably new 'feedback loops'

[last schooner]

id be more happy if they just scrapped this shit and went back to continue working on bfv lmao

[silk surge]

I know that the season 1 map will be Exposure/Ridge. But I'm hoping they change their minds and add Manifest 2.0.

[low timber]

I’m still hopeful it’s one map from Dice, as ripple effect does portal, but I’m not holding my breath.

[solar tinsel]

Maybe, but still Vince cant change things overnight. Let's be realistic. It isn't on him as to why the game is the way it is

[arctic grove]

i mean tbh im not suprised we only have a single map announced, the feedback to the base 7 was already so negative that Ridge most probably is having to get completely redesigned to avoid the same flaw, i didnt expect much else with how many resources just Ridge would take to make

[solar tinsel]

I hesitate to make claims about work environments I don't work in. I think it's pretentious

[prisma anvil]

I dont think portal maps will make it to aow, portal vehicles and weapons? Maybe, but not the maps

[low timber]

I don’t see the portal vehicles coming

[silk surge]

Didn't they claim that they were planning on adding Rush as a permanent AOW gamemode?

[solar tinsel]

Work RESULTS, of course. But to make claims about the actual work environment and staff,nah

[velvet sand]

It's been 5 months since he was brought on board. I get that change is slow and changing the whole direction of a studio (and re-teaching them to make games to be fun) takes time, but I see absolutely no meaningful changes in terms of DICE's handling of 2042. Arguably, it's gotten worse.

[eternal storm]

they havent even got the maps and weaponjs from bf3 after 7 months, why would u think theyd be any diff for the other bfs??

[low timber]

Yes

[stone cradle]

Yes.

[arctic grove]

the only portal vehicles i'd slightly expect to see would be the BF3 AAV lol

[next onyx]

Portal vehicles are reskins of 2042 vehicles anyways.

[prisma anvil]

Just saying, its a more likely thing to happen than portal maps being ported

[next onyx]

They operate literally the same.

[silk surge]

In that case, we will probably see PORTAL maps in AOW alongside Rush becoming a non-PORTAL gamemode.

[next onyx]

Only difference is what they can use.

The wildcat is just a BTR on steroids.

[solar tinsel]

and you're free to have that view of the studio and where it's going, but I don't think it's realistic to attribute that to one person or say its because their developers are intern-level

[arctic grove]

actually i just forgot the mav exists in 2042, so i wouldnt even expect the AAV as the MAV fulfills the same mission

[solar tinsel]

I say that because it enters territory none of us understand because we dont work there

[velvet sand]

The intern-level is a joke on the results of leadership. My problem remains that leadership seems determined to kill this game with terrible choices.

[next onyx]

The gunner seat on Bf3 vehicles is absolutely nuts though when compared to 2042's helicopters.

[low timber]

I’ve been wanting to play Rush on Valparaiso, Arica Harbor, Noshahr Canals and Caspian Border with 2042.

[next onyx]

I would love to play those maps on breakthrough personally.

[solar tinsel]

No disagreement there. The game obviously has failed ha

[next onyx]

Breakthrough 64 good.

[solar tinsel]

Again: cant argue the results, no disagreements there.

[silk surge]

Here's to hoping that Exposure/Ridge won't be just another map that they need to rework later.

[prisma anvil]

Sorry, I didn't quite catch the meaning of that one,

[silk surge]

They've been hyping that map a lot.

[next onyx]

They're probably revising and reworking it as we speak as usual.

[white geyser]

They forgot to add the tank destroyer in BF3 portal and they should bring it back

[velvet sand]

Narrator: But it probably will. But it won't be touched until Y2

[next onyx]

That's how map testing would go.

[solar tinsel]

Allegedly, it's supposed to be something more along what we'd like. But time will tell

[stone cradle]

judging by the datamined map pictures, it looks to be just like the launch maps

[low timber]

Expect every time I’ve played on Arica Harbor the attackers never managed to clean the first sector.

[prisma anvil]

Still waiting for an actual reveal trailer for s1

[solar tinsel]

The fact that it doesnt support HZ is almost promising in a weird way

[arctic grove]

although i'd love to see the Stryker in a modern battlefield again the MBT does the job fine

[next onyx]

Technically that's with the wildcat but it's not the degree of how cool those TD's were.

I never got to use them but seeing them zoom with basically tank guns was the coolest thing to watch.

BTR's with Tank cannons, That's what they are really.

[arctic grove]

it also clearly shows that 2042 was not the game people wanted to make but rather had to

[next onyx]

And that's what the Wildcat is in a way, A BTR with a smaller yet nasty 6 pounder.

[silk surge]

Reveal trailer for season 1 is going to be . That's the one thing that DICE are experts at.

[solar tinsel]

for sure

[prisma anvil]

I heckin hope so

[arctic grove]

will season 1 actually have a trailer? im not sure where the talk about that comes from

[solar tinsel]

yeah and likely incredibly misleading of how the map actually plays 😆

[low timber]

I wonder how soon we can expect the S1 trailer.

[stone cradle]

I hope it has the feel of the BF1 DLC trailers - gritty and serious.

[hexed mango]

@edgy oriole 🚀

[solar tinsel]

But yes, they do have a great trailer team - so props to them for their craft

[velvet sand]

EA's marketing team*

[prisma anvil]

They need to knock that reveal out of the park, bring back interest, generate hype

[edgy oriole]

[next onyx]

That's also DICE dude.

[hexed mango]

how’s life

[silk surge]

I thought the trailers were made in-house by DICE?

[velvet sand]

If they are they should let that team lead creative/development for the next BF, because they seem to have a better idea of what excites BF fans than the actual development team.

[edgy oriole]

covid gods gave me a visit. so sick but the bright side is i get to work from home

[hexed mango]

[edgy oriole]

imma try and drag it on as long as possible. hopefully i get 2 full week for wfh

[hexed mango]

nice

gl with that lol

[solar tinsel]

I ddid some quick research (emphasis on quick) and apparently it's an EA-owned team called Marcom Cinematics

[next onyx]

"Yay I'm sick"
"But I have to work from home"

[silk surge]

Ah. Well, let's hope Marcom Cinematics are working hard on that season 1 trailer.

[solar tinsel]

It's possible that that team was birthed from early DiCE/EA folks who have been making those trailers for some time (as BF has historically had great trailers)

[next onyx]

Like fuck it'd be nice if you could just be sick, not work and get paid so you wouldn't have to stress.

[hexed mango]

we live in a society

[prisma anvil]

Indeed

[arctic grove]

a capitalist one

[edgy oriole]

[arctic grove]

its probably universal tho regardless of system of economy, im not sure

[solar tinsel]

ha, I also get the sense their origins were DICE because they also are referred to as (DICE Media) at one point. I bet they just got recognition from EA at DICE back in the day and they grew to become EA's prominent in-house production house

[next onyx]

Thank fuck for Australia. But uh. Maybe shouldn't have brought that up.

[quiet shell]

I wonder why DICE's progress with 2042 has been such a slog. I mean the community map from BF4 went from looking like the moon to being a full fledged map in 2 months

[silk surge]

Angel's new EOR voiceline come season 1.

[next onyx]

I'd assume just a rushed game and now they're playing catch up as they've had to delay season 1.

[solar tinsel]

Its gritty! War! Be sad!

[prisma anvil]

"it never works out sometimes"

[next onyx]

YAH ANGEL DOES IT AGAIN.

[hexed mango]

which i mean overall has been beneficial for them

[velvet sand]

Rushed, incomplete game we pay full price for while DICE slowly brings it out of Early Access over the span of a year and half. What a time to be alive!

[arctic grove]

yea, like i said earlier its extremely plausible that a lot of these coming changes were still on the checklist to put in before the game released, but got the order to release it by the end of last year

[silk surge]

Yeah, that would make a lot of sense. The 2042 reveal trailer had an extremely similar tone compared to other Battlefield trailers.

[next onyx]

I had Angel's face as my pfp for a while and it was so fucking cursed.

[quiet shell]

Well DICE also had to play catch up with Battlefield 4 as well but they had the game essentially in working order by early spring

[next onyx]

Whenever I saw my message I genuinely died inside.

[velvet sand]

I'm just blown away that they're admitting that 7 months post launch they still have no plan for specialists, lol. At least that's some honesty, but man is that sad/pathetic.

[tiny imp]

is halo fault

[next onyx]

I have to remind myself early northern hemisphere spring.

[quiet shell]

They have plans for specialist, they just want to make sure any changes they make are concrete and not band aids

[next onyx]

I do recall that bf4 took a bit more than that to be fully fixed unfort.

[arctic grove]

now a large part of Y1 content will potentially be, as said before, catch-up after the game got rushed with little room for fully new content meant to come out after everything that needed to get done, was done

[hexed mango]

i’m just glad they actually mentioned specialists in the video today, was nice to see the potential that they envision

[next onyx]

But I do wonder.

[solar tinsel]

A lot of stuff is organic like that. You realize you have super talented people in one of your subsidiaries, and that lets you grow internally. Good for them, they probably have a great gig at EA. I work in production and a lot of times it's more freelance-based. They have a gig serving as a "freelancer for their parent company" so they dont need to worry about getting clients, and they get regular company benefits and all that. Nice to see talent getting valued

[calm bison]

I think the question on most peoples mind right now is are we going to see a Y2 of this game

[next onyx]

Since other teams have had work to work on other stuff. Would this have really changed things in the larger scheme?

[willow sky]

that new angel voice line though 😳

[velvet sand]

Do they talk about anything in it? I haven't watched since I heard the only thing there that wasn't in the writeup was that portal weapons are coming over.

[prisma anvil]

Hey atleast they cut loose the dead weight that was hazard zone

[quiet shell]

Glad to see Boris is getting a proper face instead of being a reused asset from BFV. And he's younger now

[next onyx]

Yeah let's be honest Maverick very most likely not. But time will tell.

[solar tinsel]

I can almost guarantee a "No" on that

[next onyx]

What character was he based off?

[solar tinsel]

Hell Im not convinced if they'll get through Y1

[arctic grove]

you know, as much as i'd wish a game with this much potential gets a Y2, i just really doubt it lol, has a battlefield actually ever had a Y2 content cycle done?

[next onyx]

The blue German santa dude?

[calm bison]

Sorta with BF4

[quiet shell]

His face is fom the unused eastern front content for BFV

[next onyx]

Could you drop a link?

I'm curious.

[arctic grove]

same, thats interesting

[next onyx]

Falck could be going back to her original design too.

[prisma anvil]

Nice

[velvet sand]

Wasn't Falck's current design copied from Battlefront 2?

[edgy oriole]

falck concept art was gross af

[arctic grove]

thats something that should really be done if Boris is gonna get changed to look younger too lol

[silk surge]

I'm a bit sad that they're abandoning Hazard Zone. That mode had a lot of potential, but ended up half-assed.

[next onyx]

But I just say this based off since Mackay's new model is based off his concept art.

[velvet sand]

But I do kinda dig concept-art Falck.

[arctic grove]

concept-art paik is a necessity

not an option for dice

[low timber]

Maybe they all get a face lift to look like the concept art?

[stone cradle]

He has no shades though

[velvet sand]

It's DICE following in the footsteps of Bethesda for FO76 - create a quarter baked mode and release it, then complain nobody likes your unifinished mode with lots of potential and eventually remove it.

[low timber]

Well expect Dozer and Casper.

[next onyx]

I like these skins.

[stone cradle]

New boris should have just been concept boris, he looks daddy af. 😳

[silk surge]

That's extremely common in AAA studios. You'll find a lot of assets copied from their previous projects. Hell, they reintroduced Gunter from BFV in 1942 PORTAL.

[low timber]

You got anymore of them pixels?

[arctic grove]

like someone said before, concept art boris looks like he wrestles bears lmao

[stone cradle]

I'm glad DICE appreciates glorious Gunter just like us.

[velvet sand]

Yeah, not complaining. Just wondering why they still released such a half-baked game even cutting corners like this (WHICH IS A SMART THING TO DO AS IT SAVES TIME AND RESOURCES)

[quiet shell]

Trying to find it, I distinctly remember the face from a datamine but it might have been taken down by now.

[next onyx]

Yes he does!

[silk surge]

We don't deserve Gunter.

[next onyx]

Oh that's fair then Kyla. That's really interesting though.

[prisma anvil]

The beard textures and their animations would probably burn off most people's gpu's

[silk surge]

Mackay looks like the bad guy from Captain America The Winter Soldier.

[low timber]

Remember in the portal trailer you can hear someone yell Gunter at the TNT jeep launch part?

[arctic grove]

if only 2042 had top rail mounted PEQs

[quiet shell]

I wonder how big of a change Sundance will get.

[velvet sand]

prob not, doubt it's rigged for animation

[stone cradle]

I meant new mackay, honestly the bottom middle one is perfect.

[arctic grove]

visual change?

[next onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/177094649473794049/784089573327896586/Screenshot_2019-10-11-23-03-17-227.jpeg

[prisma anvil]

[next onyx]

I have the video to it too.

[silk surge]

They're yelling "RUNTER" I think. I said the same thing on Reddit, and I was corrected by some angry german.

[next onyx]

It's hilarious.

[quiet shell]

I wouldnt be surprised if Sundance loses all the zoomer piercings and attitude

[stone cradle]

upload it now, we must spread gunter supremacy to everyone else.

[low timber]

Oh? That’s a shame.

[prisma anvil]

Real question is whether paik will finally recover from her bee stings to the face?

[next onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/140933721929940992/952907351411793930/That_creepy_ass_smile_tells_me_everything._https___t.co_IhNde9lF8c.mp4

[quiet shell]

Paiks face is actually the female japanese face from Battlefield 5

[stone cradle]

Just use concept Paik, she looks perfect there.

[prisma anvil]

Really?

[arctic grove]

i love defending sundance

for no apparent reason sundance is used to call the game woke and a zoomer title when theyre simply not using any ordinary pronouns

[next onyx]

I don't that Falck is reused from... Eva I think from 5?

[low timber]

“Come here often?”

[silk surge]

That face killed me.

[prisma anvil]

Bruhh.. I gotta check this

[next onyx]

I was actually raging there but that end had me laughing.

[quiet shell]

Yeah. Ngl a little racist since Paik is Korean but they used a japanese face model

[arctic grove]

like sundance doesnt have any actual political influence on the game, its just the characters sexuality and thats literally it lol

[next onyx]

It isn't even mentioned much either and people bitch about it.

[quiet shell]

Falk is from Battlefront 1, 2 and Battlefield 5

[next onyx]

It proves how fucking sensitive people are.

[stone cradle]

NOOO, those goddamned americans, he died too young , too young and innocent

[next onyx]

Yeah I'm aware her model is from battlefront as well.

[arctic grove]

theyll make up a scenario in their head about someone getting offended at them, and get offended at that

but i digress

[prisma anvil]

Pretty sure 99% of people wont even know or care, hell, the jap model in V could've been a Thai face for all we know

[eternal storm]

ive no issue with her in the game, just she seems like a skin from fortnite, not a bf game

[next onyx]

It wasn't Americans it was british!

[calm bison]

Falck’s model I believe is the imperial officer from Battlefront 2

[calm bison]

This is the way

[prisma anvil]

Danke, gunter

[stone cradle]

ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

[next onyx]

Thing is. Out of ALL the models they didn't re use Gunter for the 2042 soldiers.

[silk surge]

Can we just rename the 2042 channel to Gunter enjoyers?

[next onyx]

Wish I could.

[stone cradle]

because his handsomeness is too much for people's devices

[low timber]

Gunter’s grand grand son.

[silk surge]

You know what? I'm gonna rename myself.

[white geyser]

Need BF4 in the portal, BF3 wasn’t good enough to make WW3 matchup do to the timeline, BF3 is set in the year 2014

[quiet shell]

I wonder what kind of changes Rao will get

[stone cradle]

same, to honour our beloved german

[velvet sand]

I feel like the specialist changes are probably going to be extremely minimal whenever they finally announce them.

[prisma anvil]

Oddly enough I'd actually like him to have some lines in Hindi, or his regional language, would be a bit more fitting

[next onyx]

This is his concept art. Darker and bushier.

I dunno, I actually like his final model a bit more.

[low timber]

And an iPad strapped to his arm

[eternal storm]

still looks shit, big antenna on his shoulders

[silk surge]

Amen

[quiet shell]

I hope Irish doesnt get any changes. He's honestly perfect

[solar tinsel]

I dont think Specialists are leaving outright, but I think there will be some effort to further lean into their class segmentations. Something like weapon/gadget limitations, and maybe standardized icons that appear next to names (friendly and enemy)

[next onyx]

I actually like that Mag, It allows you to distinguish him.

[arctic grove]

agree

[next onyx]

Irish is pretty much set in stone.

[arctic grove]

this is Muta from SomeOrdinaryGamers

[next onyx]

YO.

[prisma anvil]

I mean, the bf1 medic had a big fuck off crutch taped to back

[solar tinsel]

I'm a fan of Irish, although I wish his progression included the use of the deployable cover too

[next onyx]

I won't like I actually thought of that at first.

[low timber]

How could Irish get changes? He is modeled after a real person, rest his soul.

[prisma anvil]

So, Rao's thing makes sense too

[arctic grove]

yeah, out of respect let irish be

[next onyx]

They just need to get the dude's likeness onto the game cause he's just hilarious.

[solar tinsel]

To his credit, the VO work is great. Probably the best of them all

[white geyser]

I wish DICE if they can have ghost recon future soldier skin, if they can ask Ubisoft

[low timber]

Tho Irish’s gear could be buffed, like just today died to a Carl-Gustav missile the APS-36 did block

[quiet shell]

Thats because Irish's actor was seasoned and did more than voice acting

[stone cradle]

rejoice, church of Günter!

[prisma anvil]

I mean, Irish as a whole his character design fits pretty well, he's one of the better characters in 2042, i dont think he would need too many changes. If they had too, they could probably use the littany of unused lines they had for him or something to come up with a few

[arctic grove]

yup, great actor in general

[solar tinsel]

My big gripe with Specialists is that some major BF class archetypes were completely left out. No "engineer" as in actually focused on vehicle repair, no "Anti-Tank", etc. pretty critical roles. Both Engineer Specialists dont actually follow the tradition Engineer class at all

[next onyx]

I did hear his lines as my mate played him and honestly he has the most personality, Not that the others don't have any it's just Irish is the more outspoken.

[low timber]

Did you know it’s cannon that Irish had threesome in BF4 in the Shanghai mission if you wait near the elevator he says about it.

[next onyx]

xP

[arctic grove]

lmao

[quiet shell]

I like how 22 years seperates Battlefield 4 from 2042 but Pac hasnt aged a day going off the short film. Straight up he should atleast be in his late 40s

[plucky pebble]

@next onyx you name is cursed

[next onyx]

HEY.

INVERT AIM GOOD.

[stone cradle]

Rao just needs to obsess over linux and VMs and he's essentially him lmao.

[plucky pebble]

No 😡

[next onyx]

"Is this on Linux?"

[low timber]

Rao should be able to hijack enemy gadgets, not just disable them for few seconds.

[prisma anvil]

Can we just get Mutahar Annas from someordianrygamers to revoice Rao?

[next onyx]

YES.

Down is up and up is down, It's natural man!

[quiet shell]

Im still kinda curious what happened too Recker, but Im betting DICE has dropped the 2042 story and is just going back to the drawing board

[plucky pebble]

[next onyx]

I'm the only one in my clan who plays on invert I feel lonely.

[low timber]

Most likely a high ranking general in the US army

[stone cradle]

just make him an entirely different specialist at this point.

[next onyx]

Hannah isn't coming back we know that for sure.

[prisma anvil]

In my headcannon, recker got out of it, after 4, he hung up the cape and lives out in the wilderness away from it all,

[plucky pebble]

Fuck hannah we want recker

[sleek latch]

go away aussie.

[next onyx]

Unless Recker off the books did it.

[quiet shell]

Hannah was annoying I'm glad she died lmao

[next onyx]

Screw you Turk!

[low timber]

We never saw her die, maybe she’s alive but deformed.

[sleek latch]

You use INVERT AIM?!?

[next onyx]

YES I USE INVERT AIM.

[sleek latch]

FEK OFF

[next onyx]

I CAN AIM BETTER THAN YOU.

[sleek latch]

THATS NOT WHAT I HEARD LAST WEEK

[low timber]

Burn

[next onyx]

What?

[solar tinsel]

Well if that doesn't foreshadow 2042's state I dont know what does

[sleek latch]

Just continue the fight for god sayk

[next onyx]

I'm just confused.

[sleek latch]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-doge-gif-24837098

Get bonked

[next onyx]

Yes. Bonk me.

[solar tinsel]

AHEM #500058972234055710

[quiet shell]

Hannah's death kicked off the events of 2042 lmao

[solar tinsel]

IM KIDDING IM KIDDING

[sleek latch]

https://tenor.com/view/kendo-shinai-bonk-doge-horny-gif-20995284

[next onyx]

it was weird seeing Pak alive.

[low timber]

So if she didn’t die we wouldn’t have global warming?

[prisma anvil]

Hmmmmm

[quiet shell]

Correct

[slate snow]

Pac better

[low timber]

How come? It’s not like a carrier sinking has 100% death rate, right?

[quiet shell]

Because Hannah blew herself up to destroy a chinese ship, China had to rebuild that ship and the pollution and waste caused by it kicked off the global warming in 2042

[low timber]

Oh yeah, BF4 had that one carrier that had no one alive, but there were Chinese soldiers.

[next onyx]

I dunno. Guess I wasn't expecting it.

[grim goblet]

Yo anyone wanna play the battlefield 3 co op with me on hard difficulty?

[next onyx]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

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[edgy oriole]

[next onyx]

I guess I'm not used to the continuity aspect of battlefield since they rarely touch the story.

[stone cradle]

what the hell is the server this emoji is from.

[next onyx]

Nor does the multi make sense.

[slate snow]

Do people realize how good cod campaigns actually are lmao

[edgy oriole]

[next onyx]

But it's just a game, Not much need to think about it.

[low timber]

Shame that Dima had radiation poisoning and died, he was an interesting character.

[warped pulsar]

So season 1, one map only?

[solar tinsel]

BF2's story: Geometries loaded barely, and THEN THERE WAS WAR!

[solar tinsel]

Correct, 1 new map + Kalediscope 2.0

[warped pulsar]

Damn, I wonder if atleast 1 more for portal. Atleast metro

[quiet shell]

A former writer at DICE actually explained how the nuke event in Battlefield 3 led too the events of Battlefield 4. Basically after the whole nukes in the wild fiasco, a bunch of nations signed to scale back the possession of nukes which forced countries too bolster their conventional miliaries which is why China and the US are at war instead of causing a nuclear holocaust in Battlefield 4

[velvet sand]

1 new map, a few portal maps ported over, and they'll finally finish Kaleidoscope.

[slate snow]

When does season 1 start

[arctic grove]

was it 62 or 64%?

[velvet sand]

early june

[solar tinsel]

ha 62 I think - but its been a while

[prisma anvil]

So, late June then?

[velvet sand]

Based on the April patch, probably. But that's all we know for now.

[solar tinsel]

at least the loading music were jams

[slate snow]

Bf4 intro is still a banger

[solar tinsel]

Speaking of music... was there any confirmed news as to why 2042's music was taken out? Was there a license dispute or something? Retraction?

I mean it's been 2 updates now: no music other than the legacy tracks

[uncut bay]

what do you mean taken out

[edgy oriole]

idk. i turned music off on day 2 of release.

[prisma anvil]

I think they have more on their minds than overhauling the music

[solar tinsel]

Is it just me? On PS5 I haven't had music play since 0.4.0 I think Other than Portal legacy maps

[stone cradle]

And BF3's, shame all 2042 has is a boat.

[uncut bay]

i never really pay attention but i also mostly play portal

[solar tinsel]

The main menu is silent, no loading music for AoW, etc.

[velvet sand]

my guy. just a bunch of noise that sounded like my computer was bricking, though I get it's more others speed so they can enjoy

[solar tinsel]

I mean, there's menu SFX. No music though

[prisma anvil]

Cuz there isn't much music in the game to begin to with, the individual maps have some but they're pretty unremarkable for the most part

[warped pulsar]

A few portal maps? Or a few portal guns to AOW?

[solar tinsel]

I agree: I wasn't a fan of 2042's music, but it's still fascinating. I feel like there's a story here

[velvet sand]

Both supposedly, but no specific details.

[uncut bay]

i liked the soundtrack, it just wasn't very good for the multiplayer

fit in more with the lore than the gameplay if that makes sense

[eternal storm]

there is, the music tells the story of the failure of a AAA to create a reasonably good sequel

[tiny imp]

BF 2042 soundtrack is horrible

[velvet sand]

It is not remotely pleasing to my ears, yes. But apparently there are a number of folks that like it so /shrugs

[solar tinsel]

ha, and even get music to play apparently

[prisma anvil]

Yeah, it didn't work for the most part, the 2042 theme itself is probably the most well known and even that feels rushed and lacks depth

[slate snow]

2042 soundtrack gave me a headache

[solar tinsel]

I miss the days of - even modern BF games - having melodies in their music

[uncut bay]

the main theme i didn't enjoy at all

[stone cradle]

So saddened we went from orchestraic masterpieces like BFV and 1's to this, I guess it's like BF3/4's but it doesn't have any rhythm to it, just incoherent awful collection of sounds.

[solar tinsel]

2142 is a great example. AWESOME soundtrack with a theme per map

[slate snow]

Lmao the soundtrack is just a loud droning sound

[prisma anvil]

It has it's cool parts, but lacks definition

For me 1 was the peak of music for bf

[stone cradle]

One of the soundtracks is just pots being banged

[velvet sand]

it's like, weird post-industrial stuff that I guess sorta fits with the supposed tonal narrative of teh game but...doesn't actually fit with the tonal narrative because the tone of the game is all over the place still

[uncut bay]

4 and 1 are probably my favorites of the franchise

[wide violet]

2 and 2142 are mine

[shell dock]

Is the game still shit or nah?

[arctic grove]

nah, 2142 was also a miss. Not as tremendous as 2042, but it was generic and simple af

[slate snow]

1 definitely has the best music

[solar tinsel]

Whaaat get out of here haha

[stone cradle]

100% Dawn of a new time is emotional af

[uncut bay]

difference is night and day if you played it on release, i recommend giving it a try if your main concern was bugs and qol stuff. Content is still lacking

[solar tinsel]

It had songs in 7/8 so hey that counts for something right?

[arctic grove]

I don't get why they used orchestra for 2142, it doesn't fit at all

[slate snow]

https://youtu.be/wqT88wCmtlE best soundtrack in a battlefield game

[delicate fable]

the dearth of new maps is gonna be the end of this. 1 map a season simply does not cut it my brother in christ

[silk surge]

I usually listen to the current Battlefield OST when working out... But 2042's OST is just so unpleasant to listen to. It sounds like BF4's theme if BF4's theme was composed by a dying elephant.

[solar tinsel]

Because back then games kept still using melodic music rather than ambient stuff 😆

[shell dock]

I played on release, but been playing a bit now and then, but if content is still lacking the games still shit

[tiny imp]

1 map.

[delicate fable]

bf4 had 4 maps every dlc

[uncut bay]

so why did you ask

[shell dock]

Haven’t played in 1-2 months

[uncut bay]

fair enough

[solar tinsel]

An orchestra for music? What a concept 😛

[silk surge]

Yeah. Season 1 releasing just a single map is fucked up. 8 months after the game's launch and we get a single map.

[velvet sand]

The new DICE ain't the same as the old DICE.

[prisma anvil]

I actually sat down with Warsaw and 2042's theme for a while, listen to them back to back and you'll see the issues more easily, 2042's theme lacks the buildup, it feels more monotonous, lacks a defined bass, could be the original track by hildur was more in depth but the version we are able to access was chopped down by a lot to the bare essentials or something

[tiny imp]

Is gonna hurt to wait for playing the new map with current map rotation without server browser...lol

[slate snow]

I’m just waiting for the day this game is good haven’t played since start of December

[delicate fable]

the graphic showing that theyre releasing 4 specialists, 4 something else, and then just "maps" means we get 1 other map maybe, but probably not 4

[velvet sand]

Gonna be folks in July/August asking where the new map is because they ahven't been able to play it since the update lol

[solar tinsel]

Well, at the very least someone can make a Portal server with that one map only. Im sure thats how a lot of folks will be playing it

[velvet sand]

No, 1 specialist per season, too. 4 overall in Y1, just like 4 maps overall in Y1 (1 per season)

[silk surge]

It has been said a lot, but I think that choosing Hildur was a massive mistake. There's a stark difference between a good movie soundtrack and a good video game soundtrack.

[solar tinsel]

But then - folks will get tired of the 1 map haha

[prisma anvil]

Fecking this, i can't stress how accurate this is

[delicate fable]

my only hope is the ambiguity of "maps" means more than 1 each season

lmao

[stone cradle]

Same, found out that I was in the top 3% of most frequent listeners to the BF1 and V's soundtracks on spotify

[edgy oriole]

prolly 1 base game and 1 portal each szn is my guess.

[velvet sand]

NAw, it's the direction. Composers for films make banger game soundtracks, and same for game soundtrack composers that make scores for TV/films and shit. They just need good direction on what they need to write.

[solar tinsel]

Yeah I'm of the same mindset. I think she was right to approach the story and atmosphere of this game's story the way she did, but gaming music needs a bit of fanfare and build up to get players excited to get into the match. I agree, I don't think she was the right choice

[prisma anvil]

I do feel bad for hildur tho, just didn't work out this time, she is talented no doubt,

[delicate fable]

@solar tinsel halo infinites music is a great example of buildup and fanfare

[stone cradle]

I don't understand why they didn't just approach Johan and Patrick again.

[delicate fable]

lobby music literally slaps in infinite

[silk surge]

Hildur is an amazing composer, just not withing the context of videogames.

[solar tinsel]

She is just out here getting paid doing her thing, can't fault her for doing her craft. Thats on DICE to hire the right person for the job

[stone cradle]

Those guys are barely busy, they don't make much outside videogame soundtracks.

[silk surge]

Exactly.

[slate snow]

Yeah she composed the joker bathroom scene and that was 🔥🔥🔥

[solar tinsel]

You don't hire a Michelin Chef when you need a cookout for like: 250 people needing burgers and hot dogs.

[silk surge]

I love her work on Chernobyl.

[solar tinsel]

Odds are people are gonna say "wtf is this I want a burger why is it taking so long"

[prisma anvil]

I did not know that, cool

[stone cradle]

We could have even got Johan Skugge or Jukka or rami, found it weird they picked Hildur though.

[velvet sand]

José Andrés disagrees. Cooks Michelin star food and goes to disaster areas to make massive quantities of food for victims/aid workers.

[solar tinsel]

haha thats awesome. good to know and good for him

[silk surge]

Are michelin stars really that significant? I remember paying $120 for Sushi just because the restaurant had a michelin star.... it was nothing special.

[solar tinsel]

I jiust use it as a half baked example ha

[velvet sand]

Yes. And even more fun when you remember it's Michelin as in the tire company.

And know that the award for getting stars is handed out, often times, by someone in that silly Michelin Man costume.

[fiery shoal]

by definition no? 1 michel star means "worth stopping by" which is pretty.. low bar for a restaurant

[solar tinsel]

Still, cinema music is much more keyframe and time-event based, and I get the sense Hildur is REALLY great at that. With the exception of game cinematics though, you don't really get that and game music needs to kind of provide its own sense of drive and intensity

[velvet sand]

That's not remotely true. I mean, subjective tastes and all, but Michelin stars are highly sought after by fine dining restaurants as they're a global indicator of the quality of the food/service/experience.

[prisma anvil]

I never bothered with those (mostly cuz we lack Michelin starred restaurants here )... I just go by customer reviews

[scenic tartan]

Exciting changes and glad to see a sit down and talk video from the team

They should do these every month

[prisma anvil]

Oh and price, price tells you a lot

[uncut bay]

usually yeah they mean the food is very high quality, but i personally wouldn't waste the money. Rich people stuff, i can get my stomach filled for a fraction of the price and enjoy myself just as much

[fiery shoal]

... that is literally their short description of 1 star.. 2 star being "worth a detour" and 3 star being "worth a dedicated trip for"

i swear you talk out your ass for just about everything

[wide violet]

got damn

yes 911, i just witnessed a murder

[prisma anvil]

That's one of the biggest things I look for in food, it is filling?.... I don't have a fine palate, I just want to leave with my belt loosened a few notches

[solar tinsel]

I've opened up a can of worms. It was literally just a shit example I promise haha

[edgy oriole]

[prisma anvil]

Inb4 carbo comes up and asks us to take this to general

[arctic grove]

huhu

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-peeking-serious-im-watching-you-gif-16975119

[prisma anvil]

Nothing to see here officer, we're just a bunch of law abiding citizens going about our daily bisiness

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-press-la-noire-gif-18717264

[prisma anvil]

[mental delta]

Somebody know if there is a way to get bf mobile alpha while not being in Irak, Colombia or Mexico please ?

[mortal crane]

these new changes are good

[prisma anvil]

Nah m8, apologies

[edgy oriole]

my god. im watching a livestream of a work meeting and its making me super happy i caught covid.

[edgy oriole]

id be pissed if i was there having to watch it for an hour, but luckly im home.

[velvet sand]

If only they could update all the maps to be this good before the end of Y2 (if Y2 even happens)

[lucid goblet]

I'm liking the new additions to the maps,shame we got to wait so long though

[lucid goblet]

yeah 😦

[velvet sand]

Real talk, updates shown off for Kaleidoscope are fantastic. Also real talk, the pace of changes to the launch maps is absolutely pathetic dogshit.

[shell ermine]

DICE needs to hurry the fuck up with getting the Portal maps in AoW.

[next onyx]

Hm trees on the hills re arranged.

[velvet sand]

Hopefully they've fixed the bug that leaves the trees vertical hitboxes in place, just invisible, after they get knocked down.

Probably not, don't even see them acknowledging it anywhere : /

[edgy oriole]

i thought i was the only one.

[velvet sand]

Lost so many kills and died so many times because I ended up shooting invisible trees instead of the enemies head I was aiming at (non-sniper)

oh well, almost time for lunch so I can see how good/cringe the staged video roundtable is

[calm bison]

They’re not doing maps, they’re doing guns

[mental delta]

No problem

[mental delta]

Alpha to actual game

[tame vine]

Agreed, the updates look good, but yeah it's so strange that they're delaying it for so long when they've already implemented it in the engine

[arctic grove]

only test builds

[uncut bay]

having a few sections ready to show off doesn't mean the entire map is done and playable

[arctic grove]

ye

[dim mural]

All those words and then that pitiful roadmap image kinda drove home how screwed this game is.

[shell ermine]

They are doing the maps too

[arctic grove]

literally only the first season but okay

[next onyx]

They're probably just making sure not to fuck it up.

[arctic grove]

i guess if you want to think its utterly screwed then you can

[fossil flax]

Bf2042 good game?

Angel does it again

[uncut bay]

angel did it again

[tame vine]

But they could like make the finished areas playable while completing the rest, that would definitely satisfy the playerbase than having to wait for months again

[shell ermine]

We’re also looking to expand and bring our official modes together to include Rush, our 32 Player focused experience during Season 1. We’ll have more to share about that when we reveal the Season next month, but we wanted to let you know to expect this expansion to All-Out Warfare, alongside core improvements to the Rush experience following its initial outings via Battlefield Portal. Speaking of which, starting in Season 1, you’ll see more of our existing Battlefield Portal maps joining the rotations in All-Out Warfare to help bring more variety to our Core Modes.

[fiery shoal]

should have been a thing from the beginning, o well i dont mind putting a game aside and waiting for it to get better

[next onyx]

I wonder if conquest 64 is popular or nah.

Cause they could just replace it with something else.

[uncut bay]

that would probably be very complex, since they'd have 3 or more versions of the map. Not to mention it'd only make more room for bugs. People just need to be patient and realise that developing things takes time, hence why studios are usually silent about their game until it's ready to show/play

[shell ermine]

Annoying that they didn't talk about adding a server browser and server hosting

[arctic grove]

yeah i wonder if we'll ever get an aow server browser

[arctic grove]

Real talk. They shouldve delayed the game until s1 or until nov 2022

tbh if they were never told to release 2042 in november it would have probably had a lot of this done in march

who knows tho?

[cedar turtle]

Season Two: Obama's Revenge

[arctic grove]

why does obunga want revenge

[cedar turtle]

We won't know until it's TOO LATE

[copper elk]

So in a 15 min video posted in #game-news what we got was 2 changes to maps and literally nothing else other than “we’ll talk about it next month” for a season 1 launch the following month after that. Roger.

[arctic grove]

quite precisely, yeah

What we do know that dice was pressured by EA to release the Alpha version in November of last year and some of us gullible bf fans pre-ordered the unfinished game despite the way the beta played.

[cedar turtle]

Who are you calling Roger?

[arctic grove]

fine by me

its communication about S1 details

[arctic grove]

Saves me 15 minutes of my life. thanks

you dont have anything better to do with 15 minutes to be fair

i dont think a lot of us do

[arctic grove]

Bro i could be looking at cat memes

true true

[copper elk]

Don’t waste your time. I already wasted 15 mins thinking there might be something valuable to watch as I continue to give this game hope

[arctic grove]

rip to you

[cedar turtle]

At least the new Destiny 2 season looks fun

[arctic grove]

What we need is hopium and copium

[scenic tartan]

sucks to be sad

[dapper berry]

If there wasn't any backlash due to the launch state we would've gotten a polished tonedeaf apex wannabe set in the battlefield universe tho

[hard plume]

Wake me up when 128 breakthrough comes back

[scenic tartan]

128 breakthrough sucks bro give it up

[copper elk]

Wake me up if there’s 128 players to play this game

[hard plume]

No u

[arctic grove]

lol classic

[scenic tartan]

trolling is immature and makes you look like a child

[arctic grove]

128bt didnt suck but i can see why they removed it, no other way to really calm it down even a little bit

[arctic grove]

I wouldve been mad about it but passible. Oh and at the bare minimum we are getting the voicelines changed.

[hard plume]

It didn’r need to be calmed down

[copper elk]

It’s not really trolling. You can’t join a match and there isn’t bots present

[arctic grove]

not sure about you but i get botless matches

[scenic tartan]

oh, so you're just lying then?

[arctic grove]

Change the map design. im willing to bet my life the new map revisions would play alot better now in 128 BT

[copper elk]

How exactly am I lying? What I said is truth. Join a match. Tell me there isn’t bots

[shell ermine]

The population of the game is so low that I saw a bunch of the same people when I was playing on Saturday around noon US East Time that I did later that night.

If the game had a good population I shouldn't see the same players again with 12 hours between rounds

[ripe jacinth]

I like when people refuse to take jokes

[dapper berry]

It might still come back later on as a LTM, who knows

[arctic grove]

it'd still be utter hell i think. as long as theres no real punishment for running right into the objective with 12 other guys with your condour/superhind overhead dropping even more squads while like two nightbirds farm everything

there was just too much to keep track of

[uncut bay]

have you tried staying in the match for longer than 30 seconds for the bots to be replaced by players? I and many others have had zero matches where bots persist through to the end

[arctic grove]

It depends on the region you live in. i live in the US so its rare for there to be matches with alot of bots. i usually see bots in the middle of the night when everyone is asleep.

[topaz field]

season one is coming season one is coming

[scenic tartan]

i play full matches every time i play this game. I also play some with bots. Thats how it works. it fills empty spots with bots until people join. It is not true that there are not 128 people playing the game

[velvet sand]

man, this video with the update is not great : |

[arctic grove]

If only dice added content the way fortnut added content. They got robocop and they getting obi wan kenobi

[scenic tartan]

in fact that has always been how it worked, since the game came out.

[ripe jacinth]

thank god they arent

[copper elk]

I’m also US. What’s frustrating is waiting 10-15 mins in a lobby waiting for enough people to join to even begin a match

[scenic tartan]

that doesnt happen

[copper elk]

You all mistake me for hating the game. I own it just like everyone else here.

[arctic grove]

Wierd. i rarely get that. maybe more people play in the west coast where im from?

[copper elk]

It 100% happens

[edgy oriole]

thats a matchmaking bug. you gotta restart the game fully to fix it

[arctic grove]

but did u buy the gold edition and pre ordered it like i did?

[uncut bay]

hold on, so you sit and wait for 15 minutes in queue instead of just restarting your game to fix the bug?

[copper elk]

Oh I didn’t know that. That’s ridiculous that you have to do the at, but at leas that’s an answer. Thank you

[arctic grove]

sometimes the matchmaking breaks and thats why you wait so long. everyone else leaves so you need even more people to start, thus youre waiting 10 minutes

then you restart the game and load right in

[ripe jacinth]

this is almost like a bunch of A.I.s talking to each other who all have the same point but are still arguing

[scenic tartan]

look i know you're here to be edgy, and spread misinformation and make people hate the game because you think if you make more people hate the game its cool and hating the game is cool, but just stop lying. Ive watched hours of streamers across various regions, played the game myself a few hundred hours, and this doesnt happen.

[edgy oriole]

yeah give it 30 seconds max and restart. no reason to waste too much time on it.

[arctic grove]

id give it a minute tops.

[scenic tartan]

The only way you can get the game to make you sit there matchmaking for minutes at a time is if you turn off crossplay

sorry kids, hating battlefield or hating dice or hating EA is not a substitute for a personality. go touch grass

[ripe jacinth]

this guy is actually insane

[copper elk]

Read above. You’re picking a fight. I own the game just like you. You can get more butt hurt if you’d like but gonna ignore you now. I do love this game. But it’s in dire need of help. And the video we just got today doesn’t really tell us anything other than wait another month to find out what we will get in two months. Something that should have happened 6 months ago

[ripe jacinth]

i love it

[edgy oriole]

there is some people (especially when the game released) where they just thought people werent waiting long enough to start the match so they sit and wait. so believe it or not but people will sit and wait forever for whatever reason lol. *not just this game. there is another game i used to play where people will wait 60+ minutes just to screenshot it.

[arctic grove]

man youll love this server cause this is pretty much what it is 99% of the time

[fallen yarrow]

@copper elk I usually leave if the server doesn't start in 1-2 mins and requeue (or try a different game mode). This is on US-West.

[scenic tartan]

very smart people. Ive never had it happen but i guess anything is possible with all the issues

[uncut bay]

weird. You'd think restarting the game at least once would be a solution instead of waiting for the game to magically fix itself

[copper elk]

I’ll try that next time. Thanks man

[ripe jacinth]

I love the complete lack of self awareness

[arctic grove]

sometimes i engage in a little tomfoolery myself

[edgy oriole]

it pays to have zero patience sometimes.

[uncut bay]

i play both sides so i always come out on top

[ripe jacinth]

i live for tomfoolery this guy is gonna hate me

[arctic grove]

but its ultimately useless and all we can do is see how dice treats the game until they cut its cord then life goes on

[fallen yarrow]

Some regions such as US-West are pretty dead. Restarting the game is not going to bring back players...