battlefield-2042

[forest snow]

if people are really bothered about infantry only just shove it in a playlist somewhere in portal or something perm

[nocturne cairn]

They ironically need to think inside the box. there is so much that could be spicing things up right now

even just the portal tool could fix these problems

[forest snow]

infantry only is a crime against battlefield but i guess its something people want..

[solar tinsel]

I keep saying it, but it all came down to leadership and direction. The vision of the game being an extraction royale is what led to the lack of variety

[nocturne cairn]

hey man dont you talk smack on my pearl markets

[nocturne cairn]

yeah, thats the truth. it smells like rotting food in the back of the fridge

[solar tinsel]

If this game set out to be a proper BF game from the beginning, I think we'd have actual map design and variety. However a late pivot gave it an identity crisis

[forest snow]

that map is up there with metro for the worst battlefield maps ever

[tepid agate]

I like infantry only because of this cannon people keep using on light armored vehicles lol

[nocturne cairn]

@forest snow thousands of people on active servers over the years would disagree xD

oh whoops didnt mean to hard ping you

[solar tinsel]

At least it wasn't a linear clog like Metro/Locker

[tepid agate]

Just call it on in a roof, turn it around so you can't get snipped, then rain down cannons 😓

[arctic grove]

late pivot? More like trying to make bank and follow trends like apex cod and fortnut.

[forest snow]

then it isnt battlefield they are playing

[solar tinsel]

Well, I mean I think 2042 was meant to do that (what you said) and then pivoted late to become a more traditional BF game

and thats why iit has the identity crisis it has

[nocturne cairn]

yeah, the maze of routes and the streets pushing with transports made for a fun multilevel vibe

[arctic grove]

I see what you mean now

[nocturne cairn]

riiight

[forest snow]

battlefield in its greatest and best form was battlefield 2 nothing has come close.

[nocturne cairn]

bf2 was pretty great but it hasnt aged very well

[solar tinsel]

My nostalgic favorite and first BF game! Although it doesn't hold up as well today in some areas

[solar tinsel]

looking at you spread

[forest snow]

im sure 3 and 4 wont in another 10 years

[tepid agate]

Maze of routes in 2042 😄

[nocturne cairn]

i actually go back and play the classic games and bf3 on is still reasonable

[solar tinsel]

People complain about spread now, "Hi folks I'm BF2 and when you hold down fire your shots literally land OUTSIDE THE SCOPE"

[nocturne cairn]

hah yeah for sure

I DONT miss the netcode of old bf at all

[solar tinsel]

Thats what I meant about BF2042 maps working in BF2, because you could have large open sightlines with less threat

[forest snow]

miss battlefield games needing a element of skill to do well in.

[solar tinsel]

in modern gunplay, the open spaces nonstop works less cause you can get picked off

[nocturne cairn]

even bf4 has pretty raw netcode. its better today because of avg internet speed going up but its still a little wonk

[tepid agate]

Maybe as 2042 want to cater to a new audience, they make it less challenging 🧐

[desert elbow]

What exactly made Bf2 take more skill?

[nocturne cairn]

hah, 2042 is way harder for new players in my opinion

[solar tinsel]

I'd be totally down for a BF2 remake, just with modernized trimmings: weapon customization, unlimited sprint, more areas of cover in many maps, etc.

[forest snow]

god knows pulled ideas out of a hat and throw it together i think

[nocturne cairn]

longer ranges and less margin for error because of more players and deadlier ordinance

[tepid agate]

Nah not with that hondor cannon lol

Hover, rain down cannons, accelerate away, heal, repeat.... So much skill

[solar tinsel]

I would argue BF2 didn't take necessarily more skill it just demanded players be a bit more mindful of how they played. You couldnt hold down the fire button at anything further than like 20m away

[nocturne cairn]

the 50mm cannon is beastly but thats literally every battlefield game

are we playing the same game? Engies huddling sparking the doors on the chopper

thats actually as og battlefield as it gets

[solar tinsel]

This, 100%

[forest snow]

gunplay in that game took skill to some extent even the vehicles did hell even the commander did. slowly over time the games just got easier and less off a learning curve needed

[nocturne cairn]

vehicle physics in bf2 and bf3 were REALLY nice

[solar tinsel]

Speaking of BF2, flying around with the blackhawks wrecking folks was the OG tactic, they had to nerf that - both in weapon damage and even change it so players IN the blackhawk didn't contribute to cap progress

[tepid agate]

My issues isn't really the cannon itself, i just feel it shouldn't be used in transport vehicles

[nocturne cairn]

commander mode was great too

[solar tinsel]

Agreed, I feel in 2042 vehicles always are sliding, like theres no gravity

[desert elbow]

That makes it less reliant on skill then

[forest snow]

mean the word transport vehicle .....

[tepid agate]

Hondor can rack up more kills that attack helicopters, jets and tanks ... But it's a transport vehicle?

[solar tinsel]

It was just a different era - different game. You could demonstrate skill in both types of games, it's just: apples and oranges despite having the same name

[desert elbow]

If the bullet spread is as bad as people say, it likely took less skill

[nocturne cairn]

As a commando type player who actively attacks and steals vehicles there needs to be strong presence

I single handedly can destroy a heli or a tank on foot

[forest snow]

2042 at the moment is k30s or short barrel close combat m5a3s on the ground and battle of the condor/hind sweats above.

[nocturne cairn]

i dont expect everyone to be capable or equipped for that but I do it all game long. they're basically paper

[nocturne cairn]

strong disgree on the k30 I see varied builds

[solar tinsel]

Transport vehicles in BF historically could be pretty powerful - IF a whole team or squad contributed and worked together. To an extent, I view that as a good thing. If a transport chopper is doing well because 6 players are working together, that should get rewarded to some extent. Im not saying some small changes wont help, like 50mm splash damage, but one step at a time

[forest snow]

not what im seeing bunny hoping scumabags running around with a k30 thinking they are good at the game.

[nocturne cairn]

the condor/hind is pretty dominant but with 128 people it HAS to be

[solar tinsel]

The addition of the MAV to the category will reduce Condor instances ever so slightly, because the appeal of not getting pegged by every AA missle and jet will appeal to some

[nocturne cairn]

that is 64 people who at any point will just see you and target you

any one of them with the right load out can even kill you if you dont fly carefully

[forest snow]

my games now just consist of me and a mate in a jet keeping the transports out the sky and attacking them when they spawn in.

[solar tinsel]

yup, high risk high reward and demand for teamplay to function well

[tepid agate]

It can do well without 6 players. If you got someone on the cannon and another driving that's enough to get more kills then attack jets

Just stick to machine guns like bf4

[nocturne cairn]

I like flying because of that sometimes. its really fun to live on the razors edge dropping people off and setting up big map movements

[solar tinsel]

Sure, but if a decent enemy chopper or jet is onto you it probably won't last very long

[forest snow]

a hind should not be chasing a f35 down and winning.

[nocturne cairn]

if the hind can chase down a pilot they suck

like suck so bad they need to practice against bots

jets are REALLY fast in 2042

[tepid agate]

That right you need a decent player to counter you. You don't need a lot of skill for the hondor with that cannon

[nocturne cairn]

you dont needa skillfull gunner

[forest snow]

its the constant fire from the hind that can be the problem worst comes to worse plough that f35 straight into the hind but boost before to make sure they die to

[solar tinsel]

No but if you don't have skilled people in the heli that isn't going to last long at all either

A poor Condor pilot will get themselves killed in no time by any number of gadgets or vehicles

[nocturne cairn]

but you need a skillful pilot. The Condor/hind has a small firing window below. so you have to outmanouver a deadlier vehicle to get the shot

[solar tinsel]

A good Condor pilot does deserve to have some degree of success, at least until matched by another similarly skilled threat

[tepid agate]

If you rack up over 20 kills in the BF4 transport chopper.l, then that's an astonishing achievement

Do it in 2042 transport choppers ... That's nothing

[nocturne cairn]

good gunner on a 50mm is devastating though. I like to snipe down other transports from above any time I spawn in one

[forest snow]

i know a fair few people that do nothing but use the transports all game every game taking everything out no problem

[solar tinsel]

Maybe, but I think it depends on the match and who you are up against

[nocturne cairn]

Sometimes I fly upside down for minutes at a time to let my gunner take pot shots at people above us

condor is super fun to fly. Its the Initial D airbus

[solar tinsel]

Im excited to see if the sensitivity settings fix on consoles actually has impact. I do find it hard to aim even in the 50mm on controller sometimes

[forest snow]

and to be fair i tend to keep an eye on the scoreboard see if anyone is on a streak to take them out 9/10 its the gunner in the transports

[nocturne cairn]

ha yah, I once flew so good I got my lvl 12 sqad mate 30+ kills in a life

he sent me a pm saying it was the best game he had. nice guy

[tepid agate]

It main purpose should be as a transport. But because of the cannon it gains more kills than most attacked vehicles in the game. That should be an attack vehicle not a transport vehicle.

I understand the reward that there should be for teamwork and it should encourage more teamwork, but just stick to the machine guns then that is a really skillful thing to do to rack up a lot of kills

[forest snow]

would be all for it having a 30 maybe for personal defence when low on the ground

[nocturne cairn]

look, I dont play BF for things not to be DAKA. When I fly around I expect to WHAAHHRRRGGG

[solar tinsel]

I don't disagree that some balance is warranted, but I also think it should stay as Transport and make minor adjustments to the 50mm specifically

[arctic grove]

[forest snow]

how many rounds does the 50mm start with? when fully rearmed

[nocturne cairn]

remember you cant balance on the 1% of players. not all pilots are good. some gunners cant even hit the ground

[tepid agate]

I would like to see them test it out with a weaker cannon but I feel just sticking with the machine guns was perfect.

That BF4 transport chopper was as close as it comes to being transport compared to the ones in 2042

[solar tinsel]

I forget, but I'm not sure if thats even the problem. Rather, I feel like the splash damage is too high

but thats my unprofessional opinion with no data to validate that

[nocturne cairn]

talented gamers might make a "meta" but most people arent thinging about optimizing things or perfection

I spit on meta ratings.

[forest snow]

i would say half it and slow the recharge rate down.

[nocturne cairn]

I do think that the cycle rate is a bit high yeah

[scenic tartan]

return to bf4

[solar tinsel]

It can get to a better place with balance for sure. This is still relatively new, because of the Night Hawk being moved out of that category

[forest snow]

if anything tanks need a buff still.

[nocturne cairn]

I still play bf4 sometimes. Netcode sux compared to newer games but its still really fun

[tepid agate]

Actually maybe I'm just against the canon in general because I don't even like it on the call in vehicles lol

People really enjoy to call in vehicles on the highest points on breakthrough, then just come put the back raining cannons to wipe out infantry

[nocturne cairn]

Im just happy to have a modern bf with new netcode

[solar tinsel]

I'd love to see Tanks maybe have a nice buff to armor. Make the Bolte the "fast and lethal but squishy" armor option, and tanks the "slow and sturdy" armor option

I do believe the Bolte belongs in the armor category, but I worry it might overshadow tanks now

The Bolte is faster, just as strong, a smaller target - a lot of compelling arguments for the Bolte over taking a tank

[forest snow]

agreed tanks need more armour due to everyone it feels running AT rockets, sundance AT frags, blots mines, transports 50mm, jets AGM spam, easily tracked, c5 drones, NTW now better against armour. just to name a few

[nocturne cairn]

bolte is terrible lol. its great as a utility or defense vehicle but its like made of cotton candy and the gun overheats when you even think about shooting

[tepid agate]

That shouldn't really make sense but we just got to deal with why they made that decision

[nocturne cairn]

Somthing about the windows too. I just splatter people when they drive towards me in that thing

[solar tinsel]

So I say give the tank more armor. I know folks complain "but I can't take a tank out by myself anymore" but I'd argue that shouldn't be a strong reason - tank should have inherent advantages over infantry, and I don't see a need for infantry to be "obligated" to take on a tank

[nocturne cairn]

as in I shoot them though the window while the gun overheats

[nocturne cairn]

I agree, strong tonk, stronk transport

[forest snow]

tanks to be honest should have active protection they did in 4.... and means i have to run Irish and use his activ pro when capping flags

then get back in

[tepid agate]

They going to bring javelin into the game? Then infantry have a good counter to those camping vehicles on the highest points

[nocturne cairn]

I doo feel like the tank needs some love. its not weak

[forest snow]

good call.

[nocturne cairn]

but It could use some more zest

navin's gadget is an absoulte vehicle wrecker

[solar tinsel]

It blows my mind there are only TWO rocket types in the game so far. This is where I thought specialists could have added variety. Like, make a specific Anti-Tank Specialist with their own unique rocket that made them great vehicle killers

[nocturne cairn]

no shooting, no defensive measures. refreshes fast

[solar tinsel]

Instead, I felt a lot of specialists just overlap and have less clear roles

[nocturne cairn]

isnt that what every one wants? classes over specialists?

[wanton magnet]

This and another rocket with a higher range, maybe the lock on takes a little longer? But it needs to be more than what the shit range is now.

[tepid agate]

That's probably more weapons in Portal than 2042 I think? I'm not even going to bother counting how many weapons BF4 has compared to 2042 because it's night and day lol

[forest snow]

still don't have issues with him when I'm using tanks just target him and take him out, gives himself away soon as he tries to hack.

[solar tinsel]

Mackay is "an assault who gets around one way" and Sundance is a "an assault who gets around another way" and Dozier is "an assault who has a shield if you like" they don't truly offer diverse roles

[nocturne cairn]

yeah maybe if he doesnt have a plan lol

[solar tinsel]

Wasn't opposed to the concept of specialists, but I was hoping it'd truly simulate the various more roles even BF2's 7-class system had

Hell none of the Engineer specialists ACTUALLY SPECIALIZE IN REPAIRING VEHICLES!

[forest snow]

which 98% don't most just try and jump away

then enjoy crushing them

[tepid agate]

Yeah we definitely need one but who knows when it's coming

[nocturne cairn]

In my opinion it does. The free equipment choice is what I think makes the game feel classless. the community frustration with the specialists is a red herring.

[forest snow]

rumours the new spec does

[solar tinsel]

Where's the specialist who focuses on repairing and buffing teammate vehicles?
Jeez I hope

[tepid agate]

If they're going to keep adding specialists in the future then we probably won't need any new rocket launchers

[nocturne cairn]

see your still getting you goats out on the field

[forest snow]

although it sounds so broken already.

[nocturne cairn]

seriously. I only repair with angel because I can swap it out for a different thing when Im done

[solar tinsel]

A no brainer add is a vehicle specialist who has a gadget that can repair vehicles in unique ways, and a passive that, while IN a vehicle, resupplies, heals, and repairs friendlies near the vehicle they're in

[forest snow]

new spec could repair the vehicle while sat in it. so it constantly heal slowly.

[nocturne cairn]

but the vehicles alreadty do that

[solar tinsel]

They heal and resupply?

[nocturne cairn]

yes

they have unlimeted ammo and can heal every 15 seconds. including critical damage

give or take depending on vehcle balance this week yadda yadda

[solar tinsel]

No I mean like, if an injured player is standing outside of a vehicle

If that specialist is in the vehicle, it provides supplies/healing in small amounts

[forest snow]

but put that with a spec repairing all the time time, plus maybe other crew mates using that spec to

[wanton magnet]

Does anyone know when the update is live?

[nocturne cairn]

oh, no thats cool. thats an idea. supply vehicles for ammo, gadgets and grenatdes

[tepid agate]

They will add a specialist in the future with instant transmission like in DBZ. You can activate to your perk once every 2 minutes. Just have some C4 ready

[nocturne cairn]

lol

[solar tinsel]

Right. Battlefield 2 had that haha. If a medic was in a vehicle, the vehicle provided a slow passive heal buff to everyone in and around it

Same with support (for ammo) and engineer (for repairs)

[forest snow]

4 self repairing specialist all sat in a Nightbird doesnt even bare thinking about

[tepid agate]

I think everybody can tolerate all the abilities of specialists now

Which specialist perk do you think began to raise questions if something like this should be in the game?

[solar tinsel]

Obviously there would be some stacking prohibiting haha

and self-repair benefits could be pretty slow

[forest snow]

mean you would think but if there was a lot of thinking we wouldn't of abandoned the class system....

[nocturne cairn]

Ji-soo paik's scanner

[cyan trout]

Batgirl

[nocturne cairn]

but in practice its just alright.

[solar tinsel]

On the flipside, a vehicle destruction specialist would be great: unique launcher gadget, and a passive that any time you spot a vehicle withthe ping, it highlights the vehicle in red for everyone

[nocturne cairn]

what? you dont like the wingsuit?

[cyan trout]

Lol no

[solar tinsel]

Specialists had some potential if they actually covered the gamut of team roles other BF games had, and there was just too much "sameness"

[forest snow]

see DOZER should be the AT and AA guy

[tepid agate]

I remember seeing some question marks About that one

[solar tinsel]

right haha, thatd make him different!

To me, Dozier is no different than say: Irish, who has a way to block stuff and explosives

too much overlap

[tepid agate]

I think one day they will release a specialist that will just totally cross the line with its abilities and they will even know if it hard or remove its ability

[forest snow]

mean dozer was my first T1 and my main i like him and he has a amazing skin coming soon in a bundle i suspect but its just a man in a lot of amour with a shield

[tepid agate]

If the scanner began to raise questions in the community but it's tolerable maybe the line in the sand is around there so they will just keep testing how far it can go

[forest snow]

that mumbles at the end of round screen

[solar tinsel]

right, it's another "soldier to go do shit with"

[tepid agate]

I'm holding out for this instant transmission in the future

Screw your turret Boris I've got my own way of flanking

[nocturne cairn]

Man Dozer got nerfed so hard

Big Chonk didnt deserve it

[tepid agate]

Dozer still nice

[scenic tartan]

Yeet the 128 breakthrough

[forest snow]

surprised Boris is still Russian tbh, i dont mind the idea of the specailists but they should be in classes and have a lot more background with them and story not just art work and a paragraph. the concept art for the game is brilliant just that's all it is concept.

[tepid agate]

Lucky I got Irish to mastery before that mode was taken away. Quite easy when everyone is spamming granades on your objective

[nocturne cairn]

dont forget Michael K. Williams the only surviving face of the series and the narrator died

[forest snow]

you wouldn't know in game that the ranger is looked after by angel.

[nocturne cairn]

I have a feeling most of the story content they have was around Irish presenting things to you

[tepid agate]

It always felt nice so when your opponent look different to you

[nocturne cairn]

and well.. Rip. You'll be missed

[forest snow]

of course and tbh im happy if they just leave Irish as he is.

[solar tinsel]

For sure, he did a great job voicing Irish, I know the competition isn't great, but hands down the better VO lines

[tepid agate]

Now I think they're going to start giving these characters some stories and blend it in together

[nocturne cairn]

2042 has had a hard life

[tepid agate]

How to hard life it's not even a year old 😂

[forest snow]

should of been so many Russian based specialists and so many u.s based ones. or NATO and EASTERN

[nocturne cairn]

Hes such a BF standby man. He was in like every game for like a decade even if they just had his model

[forest snow]

Or even bring MEC back along with the karkand theme

[tepid agate]

Bf4 was so cool when it's like Russia versus China or USA and you can hear the enemy teams giving different instructions in other languages

Really felt like you were having a fight against a different opponent

[nocturne cairn]

the irony of them saying "we dont want politics" and there being a cold war 2.0 vibe in current day is kinda funny

i think they need to grow up grow a pair and lean into it. hire some writers and go

[forest snow]

mean 4 was all about politics

[solar tinsel]

They could have retconned 2142 a bit and just got a jump start on the EU/PAC forming

[desert elbow]

I think it was planned to have faction based specialists, in the concept art and some of the cosmetics you can see 3 main recurring camo patterns

[forest snow]

maybe still could.

[nocturne cairn]

I dont get it when companies try to tiptoe around war drama stories. Its a war drama its gonna be rough

if you wrote a crime story would you avoid writing about the crimes because you dont want to appear criminal?

I dont get it

[tepid agate]

Sometimes I feel like they purposely leave out adding so much content at the start, because they are pressed for time and don't have as many ideas

Giving the lack of content and soldiers all the same gives them a longer road map to plan adding new stuff, on top of the road map

[forest snow]

yea i know Sundance is French, Boris Russian, McKay is from Canada, dozer is Mexico, Irish is USA, Casper is south Africa, angel is Romanian, Rao is Indian, Fleck is German think that's it. what about Britain!

[nocturne cairn]

I dont think we will ever know what the plan was supposed to be if this game was a hit on release

[solar tinsel]

Mhm, in a best case scenario: each season (that comes out regularly) has new story beats that ties into the next season. We see the maps change to fit the evolving story.....

In 2042's case scenario: nothing at all happens 😆

[nocturne cairn]

2042 sold well compared to other games in the series but fell off hard over time. UNLIKE other games in the series

they have people ready to come back. lots of purchases happened

but theres gotta be a spark

[tepid agate]

Oh so it's not like a country is fighting another country it's like one person from different countries around the world

[solar tinsel]

But imagine if like, a story beat was there was something that happened on Orbital and then Orbital was completely changed as a result the following season, and they did that with 2-3 maps each season + adding a new one

[forest snow]

i want to see if they do a map based around the audio clip we get before launch

[nocturne cairn]

the story follows non patriated mercenaries working for local governments

[forest snow]

yea have joined either the U.S or russia like mercs all the other countries have fallen and its the last 2 super powers left.

[nocturne cairn]

its very mgs4. One day your the bad guy one day your the good guy stay alive and it might change again

[solar tinsel]

I'm sure a lot of that was just concept/jargon though, and not a fully baked idea 😆

[nocturne cairn]

its a cool vibe. but underdeveloped as it seems

[forest snow]

i dont think enough went into explain the lore, mean the opening video is neat but needed more.

[tepid agate]

Yeah it's like somebody comes to the dice table and shares all these cool cosmetics to have teams looking different lots of content and they want to give it out at lunch

But then the CEO says okay so what are you going to deliver for the next 3 to 4 months on top of all this content?

And they don't have enough time and ideas to plan and design it.

So they say okay let's take a lot of these content ideas away and use that to add to the game over the next 4 to 5 months and in the meantime you can plan on the next 4 to 5months

[upbeat sand]

Boris nerf finally

[forest snow]

each map was supposed to have a opening intro video explain what is going on and why you are there.

[solar tinsel]

Yeah I feel bad for the line-level devs who likely could have made good stuff given time and direction

[tepid agate]

Yeah I don't think of it like they don't work hard enough I just think that they didn't have enough time

[forest snow]

im nervous about less then 1 month away from season 1 which is make or break for the future of 2042 and we know nothing. just leaks and datamined info we just need a clear road map.

[solar tinsel]

Yeah I mean these folks have jobs and if their bosses bosses boss at EA says "hey make a hero extraction royale" - you do that cause thats your job. Then someone goes at the 11th hour "you know nvm lets do something else, like a regular BF game" and you go "fuck well we don't have the time to do it right" and the bosses go "well we gotta do it because of stakeholders, etc."

you're gonna do what you can but you know full well it won't be good work and you pray you can make it up later

[tepid agate]

It's make it break for sure. It was a very poor launch and they've had to spend over half a year fixing the game before they can deliver content to the season pass buyers.

Comments in response to backlash of not being good either.

Is that big chance to win the community back and let's see after almost waiting a year, how they deliver it

[nocturne cairn]

that is not a good excuse and I dont think it explains the developments problems in full. not even partially

there are fundamental problems that were present in previous BF titles in this game and bugs that had literally been fixed in years past creeping back in

[forest snow]

agreed, the fact most of the season 1 stuff may of been in the game since launch to

[solar tinsel]

I tend to be more optimistic, but I don't even know if S1 can "make" 2042. As time increases, so do expectations, and I don't think DICE realistically can do enough at this point. It's a losing battle.

[nocturne cairn]

this is development hell territory. Beta code from bf5

[forest snow]

that survey i was sent and did does have me worried

[solar tinsel]

I'll still play occasionally because I do have fun - despite knowing its my least favorite BF game, but most players won't find it reason to come back or stick around

[nocturne cairn]

remember the wall revive bug? Thats a bf5 beta bug

[tepid agate]

Yeah they could have just copy and pasted their classes formula and created new maps new settings but they wanted to drive a new direction for Battlefield and it's been a big mess.

[nocturne cairn]

the fact that that was even present lets me know a large part of this game was just a hard conversion done by people who didnt work on bf5

[forest snow]

hoping for the solider dragging we were promised for V one day in a battlefield game...

[tepid agate]

Like the score board was apparently a legacy feature haha

[solar tinsel]

The fact that even their new ideas couldn't even last through all of pre-production shows they likely werent very good and confident ideas

[fleet plover]

tomorrow an update for 2042?

[solar tinsel]

Like if you're going to make an extraction royale with heroes and you back out of that late, it obviously shows it wasnt a good idea to begin with. No confidence in it

[solar tinsel]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-4-1

[fleet plover]

thanks

[forest snow]

and season 2 will launch around mw2 release too

[solar tinsel]

It's a relatively minor update, but the item of note is BT128 is being removed

[tepid agate]

I think they've definitely heard the voices of the community and they know they messed up big time. I'm sure they have some kind of database to see how many people actually play 2042 compared to the other games and they really have to make 2042 a similar model to get people on board

[solar tinsel]

I know we'll likely never find out, but I wonder if the ultimate root cause was EA trying to turn monetization and trends into a creative idea, or DICE chasing a trend on their own accord

I'd guess the former, but whatever - I suppose it doesn't matter to chase blame, they are the same entity either way

Time and time again we see that well thought out ideas for FUN games does better than marketing-led ideas

[forest snow]

mean V i thought had the perfect model for paying for cosmetics which i would of kept doing long as they were decent and interesting and ww2 fitting.

[solar tinsel]

Fall Guys is a random dumb little game that doesn't chase much (other than Battle Royale sort of) and it becomes quite successful.

[solar tinsel]

I passed on V ironically enough

[tepid agate]

I really wonder how great it could have been. Not to say that it's dead I think they've got a chance at season 1 to really revive it, I mean if they didn't try this new experiment with specialists, spend all this time to focus on all these gadgets and they designs, just a simple copy and paste format with your simple classes give both teams different distinctive looks but access to the same class weapons, have more time to focus adding better destruction and map design

We would have already had season 1 by now, I think they would have had more time to get to the 4.0 stage as well without specialists

[solar tinsel]

Part of my excitement to buy 2042 was just having skipped out on an entire BF cycle

[forest snow]

V in my eyes will always be a underrated gem, great battlefield game just not a good ww2 one. was the last battlefield as we know it potentially

[solar tinsel]

I'm not one to say never, but hot damn would S1 need to pull off a miracle. I will give kudos that DICE did improve the game state, but it seems like a "too little too late"

especially when competition is strong with lots of alternatives to play

[nocturne cairn]

yeah I agree. They made money on cosmetics there, people were using them. 2042 is devoid of monetizable content right now. Not that it would be recieved well right now but It doesnt even feel like they planned anything

[tepid agate]

I want to remain hopeful that it will pull it off but I really doubt that it will.

[solar tinsel]

I think 2042 had a place in the market as a "premium full price MP game" but what we got doesn't even hang with F2P games like Warzone, Apex, Fortnite as far as content stream goes

[forest snow]

mean the store will get bundles and xp boosts etc soon that is defo coming i suspect with the launch of s1.

[solar tinsel]

Oh trust me like I said - I prefer to be optimistic. I love BF as a franchise and have always preferred it. It's been my go-to FPS franchise

[nocturne cairn]

lol alright thats a little apples and oranges there

The less bf has to do wit apex fortnite and warzone the better

thats the PROBLEM

[hearty flame]

they were talking about content pacing
which historically has been dices problem

[tepid agate]

Yeah it's the only FPS game I play is Battlefield since BF4. Tried other FPS games but I mean Battlefield was my main one

[solar tinsel]

Ever since MW3, I was BF all the way

[nocturne cairn]

I thought content pacing on 3/4 1 and 5 were pretty good tbh

not counting the typical DICEY release that all those games had but it seems like par for the course now

[tepid agate]

I know steam charts and not everything, but they can give us an understanding of what's popping and what isn't

My evaluation is, if 2042 cannot even sustain a higher play account than Battlefield 1 after season 1, then I think I will have to confirm what I think might happen

[solar tinsel]

3 and 4 felt good. They weren't live service but they dropped full DLCs with decent regularity for the times

[forest snow]

i think the only other shooter franchise i ever have looked towards and still do is ARMA been battlefield all the way since 2003-4, played call of duty 2 on the xbox for a bit not played call of duty since ha

[hearty flame]

3/4/1 had good pacing but that was with premium and dlc. V had horrible content pacing, it was slow in content and alot of the "rewards" were weapon skin parts

[nocturne cairn]

4 had so much content it might has well have been live service

[solar tinsel]

Which is ironic considering over time I'd assume DICE has had MORE studios and people to create

[nocturne cairn]

it was all free tho

[forest snow]

im sure when 1 launched wasnt there a long dry spell with no DLC? after shadow of giants

[nocturne cairn]

3/4 were nice. expansion method was good

[hearty flame]

free but pretty slow which kinda goes againt the whole point of live service

[nocturne cairn]

I dont remember the 1 dry spell

[tepid agate]

I love the movement in bfV 😋

[hearty flame]

Im not too sure. i didnt play 1

[forest snow]

im sure there was as a lot of my friends moved away from 1 getting bored.

[tepid agate]

I wonder why you can't swim underwater in 2042? Lol

[hearty flame]

movement in V only got better after they fixed the player-terrain issues. the number of times id vault through a window only to bounce off and die is too high

[forest snow]

i would take premium back in a heartbeat though

[nocturne cairn]

they cut it because they were lazy and didnt see the point

rip leaning too

[solar tinsel]

@tepid agate honestly I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Zampella saying "eff it" and totally scratch 2042 outright after S1. Apologize to the fanbase, promise they'll get the next BF right and identify WHAT type of game they want to make and goals for it, and then give folks who bought the Year One pass for 2042 the option to either:

• Get a refund for the year pass
• Choose to not refund and get the next game's year pass + some other BS crap

If they did that, at least I could put BF aside in my mind and go: "ok, done with this for now, we'll see you when you get back"

[tepid agate]

Yeah I think they were bound to have some hiccups because all the movement mechanics were kind of new, but once they smooth it out they nailed it

[forest snow]

they cut a fair bit out of V to soldier dragging and crash landings.

[upbeat sand]

yes

[hearty flame]

Its kinda ironic how dice is taking controls away in 2042 but arma can somehow work on xbox

[nocturne cairn]

2042 has way smoother movement than bf5

[upbeat sand]

i think its to jankey in 2042

[nocturne cairn]

whats jankey about 2042

[forest snow]

mean after playing it still not sure on calling at ARMA ha its a very very watered down version ha

[hearty flame]

2042 feels like your running with shoes dipped in butter

[tepid agate]

Honestly if they were to say something like that, apologize and offer all the season one pass players a free season pass in the next Battlefield, I think so many people would accept their apology

[upbeat sand]

the movement

[nocturne cairn]

its missing all of the historic dice bugs for movement like bouncing from prone to standing while sprinting

[hearty flame]

is it? I dunno only watched people play the pc version and it looked pretty cool with the amount of small qol features that got baked in

[nocturne cairn]

no more bf5 rubberbanding

no more bf1 getting stuck everywhere

[solar tinsel]

I mean people would still rage for sure - but if you say "hey this is what we're trying to make next because we know you want it", and give a CHOICE of refund or push your year to next game, I think folks would at least appreciate the choice to decide what to do

[nocturne cairn]

well, bf1 wasnt that sticky. but it still had the vaulting problems

[forest snow]

yea its decent nice little game but its missing a lot that arma is all about there is a reason you need a keyboard still if you use a controller on arma on PC ha

[solar tinsel]

cause then the "eff you I want my money back" crowd would at least get that, and those who genuinely want to see a new BF game made in the spirit of Battlefield can look forward to that

[hearty flame]

Im sure theyll add more features as things go on. this is supposed to be like their testbed for arma 4

[forest snow]

only thing i hate about V and 2042 is the stupid slide ha

[tepid agate]

Or you can see what the play numbers are like, have a lot of people to win back over so if they can nail season 1 then hey you can just apologize for it all

[tepid agate]

Bf1 probably my favorite Battlefield haha

[forest snow]

they will no doubt but interesting to see if they get it all on the controller.

[nocturne cairn]

im split on the slide. I like dynamic movement. and its WAY better than dolfin diving or nothing at all

[solar tinsel]

Right, I'm sure they wouldn't make a call to pull the plug until after they see S1 numbers

[nocturne cairn]

and you slide farther down hill which is fun

[hearty flame]

i know right. it probably helps that they got rid of a lot of the mouse menu controls and made it contextual

[tepid agate]

The best thing about Battlefield V was freaking lunge mines oh my God blowing up tanks with friends as infantry was never so much fun. Ready felt like you were taking one for the team to blow up the tank

[nocturne cairn]

oh man the ww2 gadgets were fun. too bad it took them years to put them in

[solar tinsel]

On a random note though: Does anyone else feel like Boris' sentry turret was honestly fine?

[nocturne cairn]

pacific really picked things up for them

[hearty flame]

people just salty they die to a turret

[solar tinsel]

I barely got killed by them, and barely got kills with them 😆

[forest snow]

would be all for removing the slide and bringing the small slide or what ever it was you did in 1. the slide spam in V and 2042 is a bit to much.

[tepid agate]

Sometimes I actually felt ashamed dying by a turret. I don't know what was more shameful that with the AI

[upbeat sand]

only if we got the eastern front before cancelation

[nocturne cairn]

yeah his turret was fine. Its as dumb as a bag of rocks and its not threatening unless you dont see it coming

[arctic grove]

[solar tinsel]

I could see lowering their HP a bit, but I mean - ALL of those changes? Sentry is gonna be a joke now. It feels like overcorrecting

[forest snow]

annoyingly boris is the only t1 i haven't got.

[nocturne cairn]

pretty much every "balance" change made has been over correcting in 2042

we all remember the PP right?

[solar tinsel]

RoF lowered + Damage lowered + falloff lowered + projectile speed + health + lock on time nerf + lock on range.....

[tepid agate]

Maybe this is what they meant as the next specialist feedback loop. Keep making nerfs and changes to the specialist as we go along but we're not going to post the long term future with them

[nocturne cairn]

yeah they are listening to people who dont even get killed by these things

[arctic grove]

it was already a joke. It was only good for spotting and wall hacking. But noobs be out here crying.

[solar tinsel]

I mean shit, these radical changes are what you make in a BETA to see where your ballpark is

In a live game, it should be small adjustments a bit at a time... and couldn't dice push that serve-side?

[nocturne cairn]

like for example. Jackfrags HATES boris. but I have never one seen him killed by the turret

[hearty flame]

Damn maybe we are still in beta

[solar tinsel]

Like look at the data every week and make a small tweak

[forest snow]

the alpha and beta had a lot more to worry about then specialist balancing ha

[nocturne cairn]

but he still complains about it being too much

[arctic grove]

we are in the final stages of beta. Once S1 drops we will be at launch.

[tepid agate]

Doesn't even play 2042 now does he? 😄 I see a lot of Battlefield YouTubers just playing the old titles or other games now

[solar tinsel]

ha maybe, I mean changes like this ARE what you do in a beta, to see where your rough sweet spot is

[forest snow]

prob isnt a bad thing

[hearty flame]

Looks like Ea stands for early access now

[solar tinsel]

Ha thats pretty good

[nocturne cairn]

he playes at least once a week makes a video

[arctic grove]

Early (beta) Access

[nocturne cairn]

hes pretty salty but he always has a blast in game

its kindof contradictory feeling lol

[hearty flame]

that you buy for full price

[tepid agate]

Well, steam does show 2042 and BF4 have the same numbers online so 🧐 1.2k

[arctic grove]

exactly

[solar tinsel]

I've always said Battlefield is still fun at its core. It's a fun franchise and is popular for that reason. The biggest issue now I think is content.

[hearty flame]

cant say there are many games id do that with. i think the only games i have in early access are larian games
and 2042 aint comparable to those

[solar tinsel]

You can spend forever balancing and tweaking but at the end of the day you need stuff for people to play, new stuff to enjoy, and stuff to aim for (unlocks, etc.)

[arctic grove]

I mean b4 came out years ago and 2042 6 months ago?

[nocturne cairn]

its in vouge to shit on battlefield right now. even people who like the series in the past have doomed and gloomed it to hell

Jack cant even be assed to be informed on the state of the game. hes to busy doing other things

[tepid agate]

Yeah I guess almost a 10 year gap

[arctic grove]

I love and hate bf 2042. My stats can confirm that.

[nocturne cairn]

lol

[arctic grove]

I shit on it as much as i play on it.

[solar tinsel]

Thats another reason why a lack of content hurts: content creators typically need new content to riff off of "lets play the new map/mode/weapon" etc

[forest snow]

then we should be the ones they listen to for feedback and future plans not content creators who dont play the game any more

[hearty flame]

thats also not counting that most people probably are playing bf4 on origin vs 2042 where steam and origin launched together. so that means there might be more pc players on 4 than 2042

[arctic grove]

my pfp is a fucking clown for gods sake

[solar tinsel]

when its just "Playing BF again this week I suppose" it becomes less viable to create for

[tepid agate]

Today is Thursday so that means I'm logging on today for the weekly missions n then take another weeks break haha

[nocturne cairn]

Same I guess. I cant ignore the problems but the only other games like this are snoozefests most of the time

[solar tinsel]

I mean thats what I do haha

[nocturne cairn]

what else am I gonna do play squad? Arma Reforger?

[arctic grove]

bf 4 on xbox has a decent player base still

[forest snow]

tarkov

[solar tinsel]

Part of modern FPS games, service games especially, is that unlock grind/progression. The carrot to chase

[hearty flame]

4 will never die it seems

[nocturne cairn]

tarkov is a steaming pile

[arctic grove]

Play HLL new dlc maps and faction just came out on console for free

[tepid agate]

2042 just doesn't motivate me enough because of all the problems. I was so hooked on Battlefield 4 I would still even try that once a week maybe

[solar tinsel]

Hazard Zone had such good potential to be a good, accessible, Tarkov style mode

[arctic grove]

I give it another 5 years unless dice makes a good modern bf game next time.

[arctic grove]

So did Firestorm in bfv my guy

[nocturne cairn]

yeah, they had to drink the BR coolaid though

[hearty flame]

probably. in 5 years itll probably really start to show its age

[forest snow]

dropping someone across the map with a SIG mcx with 1 shot in the neck is somewhat enjoyable though

[solar tinsel]

Just let me drop into a map for up to 50min or something with tons of AI, a larger map, and then the ability to extract whenever, and make it so you have to take weapons and attachments out with you, no bullet management or anything crazy sim like, but that concept of getting stuff and leaving with it

[arctic grove]

it already does. It bothers my eyes playing bf4 in 720p.

but i cant stop playing it.

[nocturne cairn]

I can do that in any modern shooter tho. Tarkov took like 5 years to even get barely functoinal voip

[arctic grove]

at least on pc you can play it in 1080

[hearty flame]

i think it still looks fine. a bit low res than we're used to but doable

[arctic grove]

vaild

[hearty flame]

but i saw that a project reality mod is being made for bf3 so maybe thatll spice things up for bf fans

[limber garden]

We need a petition for 128 player breakthrough. What are you guys doing there? Damn...

[forest snow]

mean game added more content before adding a voip. which i agree with, dont get why 2042 even bothered with voip all i hear is kids screaming and people hoovering

[arctic grove]

yes but seems like pc only which sucks for us console folks

[solar tinsel]

It makes sense to add on principle, at the very least. It could have possible improved some of the game's early experience if they had it

[nocturne cairn]

they didnt do that either. I've had tarkov from the begining and all these years later they're still treading buggy unfinshed water

[hearty flame]

well i dunno how moddable frostbite is without official tools so no way consoles can really get them unless the engine gets changed for mods

[solar tinsel]

Forming new communities, clans, matchmaking groups, etc. VoIP is that last line you throw out there in hopes the community finds ways to engage with the game more

Without having that thread, people dont connect, and dont bother to play together, then dont bother to play.... etc.

[forest snow]

not played it to much not seen to many bugs myself but my biggest problem is being punished for not buying the most expensive version for the stash size

[solar tinsel]

In a small way, I think the lack of VoIP did stunt 2042s community potential

think back to BF3/BF4 and people you likely met WHILE playing and matchmade with, you have a killer round, shoot the shit and have a good time. Now you have people to play with.

When youre on and see them on, you want to join in

[nocturne cairn]

DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED. The cash shop angle in that game is gross

[arctic grove]

you can kiss your refund goodbye

[forest snow]

got the base game and my stash is full already with stuff i need for quests and equipment i need for missions. the most expensive version gives you a stash size you cannot get in game that's a bit dirty in my eyes

but exfil camping is fun, its a nice change off pace from battlefield

[mossy solar]

[livid tapir]

who asked to remove semiauto fire mode on AK??

[upbeat sand]

no refund

refund only if you have less than 2 hours on steam version

[mossy solar]

You replied to message long after I deleted it. How?

[upbeat sand]

now its gone

[mossy solar]

That's a fat delay

[upbeat sand]

maybe its my australian nbn

[mossy solar]

Perhaps

[arctic grove]

Satisfied snipe

Fucking boris turret is hot garbage now

[dim blade]

Good riddance tbh, it was annoying

[tepid agate]

I think they'll keep adding buffs and nerf to specialists throughout time. You'll have like meta specialists during different seasons.

[low solar]

The only weekly challenge I miss and it’s because it ended early without me noticing

[tepid agate]

Recent skin?

[low solar]

Yeh

[tepid agate]

Ah no worries I don't think many will use it or notice it in-game

[low solar]

Aye it did look a bit off
My fault either way

[tepid agate]

Like those tiny emblems that hang off your gun. No one is going to notice that playing the game lol

[simple iron]

lmao dead game and dead chat

[arctic grove]

Heheheheheh

[tepid agate]

Are you here as a fan? Lol

[arctic grove]

Co kurwa

[simple iron]

yeah i enjoyed 2042 when i played it lel

[arctic grove]

Ja nie gram Tera w szkole jestem

[arctic grove]

[tepid agate]

It's okay some people still enjoy it a lot so let them be lol

[simple iron]

never

[tepid agate]

Why

[simple iron]

it be like that sometimes

[tepid agate]

I'm sure you and the 2042 fans get on well lol

[simple iron]

lmao homie is really angry and me saying dead game and dead chat

[tepid agate]

Yeah they will defend what they love I guess

[sinful ore]

may update letsgoooo

[fathom maple]

hows the game?

[dim blade]

Its "technically" a battlefield game cause there is "Battlefield" in the title.

[shy perch]

very mature

[restive saddle]

It is Battlefield, just not what got most of the playerbase on, the destruction and stuff was introduced around Bad Company and then very much enhanced in BC2/BF3

It's just not good at the moment

[naive sandal]

From patch notes 0.41: "Increased the AC42 distance damage dropoff at higher ranges". Pre 4.1, with the ac42 high power ammo, it takes 6 (75 - 150 m) or 7 shots (>150 m) to kill someone without armor. They already overnerfed the ac42 range, don't understand the further nerf.

[restive saddle]

It's pretty accurate and has very high rof and it is burst fire.

[naive sandal]

Good luck using burst fire at a 100 m distance lol

Burst fire is only useful at close range

At mid range single fire mode is far better

And you have to time your shots better at mid range, so you never really use its max fire rate

[restive saddle]

the entire point of burst fire being created was so that the average soldier could be accurate without interrupting firing

It is and can be the most effective firing mode if you can handle it

[river basin]

Who still playing 2042

[bitter sphinx]

Wonder if they fixed the issue when the vehicle customaztion resets to default every single time

[fathom maple]

[river basin]

Guess nobody

[restive saddle]

I didn't experience this, was it around launch or after?

[bitter sphinx]

After, and its occuring till now, i guess not for everybody...

Soo annoying

New weekly mission with this update too?

[lucid goblet]

weekly missions are every Thursday, normally go live at 1pm bst

[bitter sphinx]

Okay, I've forgot, thx

[naive sandal]

Maybe useful on a static target, you'd end up wasting lots of ammo burst firing at a moving person at around a 100 m distance.

[restive saddle]

You're more likely to hit with burst regardless of the situation, especially if you can compensate for it

[thick copper]

just nuke it

[bitter sphinx]

I hope there will be some reloaded season 1 addtional content too, like in cod

[dim blade]

Like 10% of the inital playerbase

[river basin]

What made u stop

[dim blade]

I dont like shooting enemies, seeing the blod splats but not actually dealing damage

I like it when my guns deal damage

[river basin]

So why you here

[dim blade]

I joined pre release and never really left

[river basin]

So what are you into

[dim blade]

I play Dota 2, GTA V and CSGO

[river basin]

Gta v is shooting ppl but u don’t like shooting in battlefield

[dim blade]

thats not the point. GTA V does not have that broken hitreg.

I didnt say i dont like shooting, i dont like broken hitreg, when im shooting someone point blank and they take no damage. I didnt mind the other bugs so much but that one specifically pissed me off

[silk surge]

You can't fucking win with this community

[dim blade]

128P isnt bad, the maps for it kinda are

But that is just my humble opinion

[silk surge]

I think that 128p works just fine on conquest, as long as your hardware can handle it.

[crimson basin]

is the update live?

I don't see it on ps5

[next onyx]

Update is 2.43 gigs.

[lucid goblet]

update is live on pc, pc size (origin) 2.4gb

[pallid orchid]

im downloading on steam (pc)

[next onyx]

Quicker than you.

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodcartier-reicartier-gif-22306876

[dim blade]

I still play HC servers on portal every now and then.

Massacare 84 bots and 8 players

[silk surge]

That's suprising. Wasn't the update that added a reworked scoreboard and almost nothing else even bigger?

[dim blade]

Probably just bugfixes. god knows theres a lot of em

[silk surge]

I honestly can't wait to see how the game plays without boltes and sniper turrets.

My biggest gripe with the game was how extremely oppressive the turrets could be at times. Literally stopping flanks and auto-fortifying objectives. I'm so glad they finally got around to hard-nerfing it.

[dim blade]

Anyone here on COD discord?

i need your help if you are

[silk surge]

However I do still believe that they should rework Boris. Why should an engineer specialist go around with a turret that spots people? That's recon shit. Give him an improved repair tool or something.

[upbeat sand]

on steam it is 1.7gb

[viscid pewter]

i still love you borris

patch live

[fathom maple]

iiiiits Boris! slav music plays

[viscid pewter]

mine is borris the barista you like coofees

[upbeat sand]

bois as president of russia when

[vale gale]

Any improvement after the update

?

[upbeat sand]

im still installing

[viscid pewter]

not much its only 2 gigs

[vale gale]

Bruh

[upbeat sand]

the bolte is now armoured tho

[fathom maple]

wingsuit levitate glitch fixed yet?

[viscid pewter]

something about armour and the grapple guy

[upbeat sand]

https://t.co/t75GIOLdTS

[fathom maple]

people use aim assist on battlefield?

[dim blade]

I cant fathom playing shooters online with a controller except COD maybe

[viscid pewter]

https://youtu.be/WnNjwa0V2bY

[upbeat sand]

i think the controller part is for console players and the few that use controller pc

[dim blade]

Im so used to MKB i just cant

[upbeat sand]

what gun is that i dont play cod?

[fathom maple]

mouse keyboard

[dim blade]

xd

[bitter sphinx]

Lmao no armour plates with Angel. So its just only yeet the ammo

[fathom maple]

i only use controller for flying heli n jets

[shell reef]

Whatsuuup guys

[upbeat sand]

the resupply god

[shell reef]

How are the shotguns in the game?

[upbeat sand]

2

[dim blade]

Hahahah, i just saw DICE justification for reducing Breakthrough to 64 players. "Its more tactical."

It really is more tactical, not the gameplay but for DICE. Its more tactical to have a gamemode where the player slots actually fill

[upbeat sand]

HOLY FUCK I CAN PLAY the cpu isnt at 100% and im getting more than 70fps

[dim blade]

specs?

i should try it. maybe i can run 128 players on decent fps now

[upbeat sand]

ok i take that back still 100% in mid game but early game is good

[upbeat sand]

i5-9400f
rx5600xt
16gb 8x2 ram
low graphic

[dim blade]

hmm weird, should be higher no?

[upbeat sand]

?

[shell reef]

I take that as a not good?

[dim blade]

you playing on 1080P?

[upbeat sand]

its good enough

[upbeat sand]

yes 1080\

[arctic grove]

only 2 shotguns but they aight tbh

[shell reef]

Oooof

[dim blade]

Damn this game sucks at optimization then wtf

[shell reef]

Wich ones

[arctic grove]

12m auto and a pump action I think

[dim blade]

Hopefully MWII will bring it home. AAA shooters in the last 2 years have been ass

[upbeat sand]

whats wrong with 1080

[fathom maple]

[shell reef]

Hz?

[shell reef]

Hz?

[upbeat sand]

75

okok ill supersample it to 1440

[shell reef]

Nah that acctually good man i thought 1080 and not 4k or hdr

[upbeat sand]

i just have a samsung 60hz 1080p but graphics card lets it go upto 75

[ornate pecan]

Weird, my Xbox has two separate 10.2 GB updates queued for 2042. Never seen a game get two updates queued.

[viscid pewter]

i got lag

[upbeat sand]

i think they rebooted the servers

[night vessel]

UPDATE LIVE

[viscid pewter]

im a take abreak and get a munchie ,

[bitter sphinx]

I get stutters after the update, wow such a good game

[dim blade]

Yeah that happens, should be fine after 2 games or so

[night vessel]

did you update by steam ?

[bitter sphinx]

Nope

[dim blade]

its these damn shader installs that happen while playing

i think

[chilly jacinth]

its building shaders

[bitter sphinx]

Vehicles still dominating though

[upbeat sand]

less bolte more hovercraft

[night vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/ottoman-slap-ottoman-slap-trt-sultan-abdulhamid-ii-gif-21135048

[marsh bay]

The game is stuttering sooo bad

[night vessel]

vehicles are perfectly "balanced" but attack helicopters are lacking :/

[pulsar sorrel]

Theyre fine imo.

[bitter sphinx]

Hmm, more condors and apaches

[night vessel]

not really the 127mm rocket lunchers suck balls towards tanks

[pulsar sorrel]

Don't use it.

[night vessel]

they do so little damage compared to Zunie rockets from BF4

[night vessel]

Have to cause its okay you can 4 shot kill a little bird and attack.

[next onyx]

SCAR is good.

[silk surge]

PBX has practically no recoil at all anymore lol

They weren't joking when they said that they reduced the base recoil on weapons.

Like damn, I think PBX is the new meta now. The TTK also feels a lot lower.

[upbeat sand]

S090 players on their way to use nothing but k30 drum mag with laser sight and red dot as sundance only

[tidal grotto]

anyone stuttering game?

[marsh bay]

Yep

[short oyster]

yes

[pine roost]

Didn’t the pbx already have next to no recoil? When I last played it was easy to control

[bitter sphinx]

Lots of stutters

Lmao the end of the round is stutters too xD

[molten ferry]

What's the update about

[bitter sphinx]

Stutters

[unique vault]

Stutterfield 2042?

[simple merlin]

Guys im scared. They said season 1 is on track.

Im so used to Dice delaying everthing in bf2042 that I dont beleive it lol

[bitter sphinx]

Indeed

[next onyx]

Servers are really bad.

Right now.

[short oyster]

i already miss breakthrough 128 xD

[white geyser]

I want the tv missile to be added in 2042, I want to use it for my AA wildcat tank secondary weapon I don't want a lock on system for the missile that can't fire freely because it sucks.

[low timber]

I have had the red and yellow server icon and packet loss icon showing for me the past ~seven days.

[quasi pendant]

this game so lag

[foggy halo]

luckily I don't really like the game and I almost never play it, so no bad servers for me now

[upbeat sand]

steam discussions is just filled with people yelling for a afull auto pistol so they can sweat like aek+g18 locker only

[unkempt wyvern]

microstutters all the time in litteraly every mode, aim assist feels the same as bofore update/weird, gun fight needs a lot of work(just implement bf5 gunfight and 50% of the community comes back), maps too big, even the smallest ones

[silk surge]

I've played some Breakthrough games now, and I gotta say... 64p with 128p maps feels so much better. You're able to find people all the time, but you don't have to deal with the meatgrinder clusterfuck that was 128p bt.

PBX has 100% been stealth buffed. The recoil is basically non-existent now.

[dim blade]

You sure this is not COD? That recoil LOL

[upbeat sand]

last year my friend called battlefield a battleroyale with respawns

[arctic grove]

damn

[slow terrace]

Is it just mine or is your game also without any music in the menus and loading?

[rocky raptor]

128 player breaktrough must to go. It was hard to fill a server here. So mmaybe the 64 players breaktrough will live on.

[dim blade]

Wdym, killing AI is fun right?

[silk surge]

64p BT is always full on PS5 with crossplay off. 128p was basically dead.

[digital summit]

Well, fuck you Dice. Removing half of the two game modes that the whole game was marketed around.

It's literally the only mode I played

If you don't like the mode, no one is forcing you to play it...

[fast pulsar]

Hey Dice

Why is the game now so laggy??

[solar minnow]

Wow

[fast pulsar]

and from where do i get armor plates??

[solar minnow]

breakthrough is hot garbage now

[digital summit]

your loadout

and good because fuck armor plates, has no place in a shooter outside of battle royale

[fast pulsar]

oh cool.. so even less stinger on the field with so many op condors

[solar minnow]

map is so big the attackers can't get objectives...

[digital summit]

everyone has the same health and can take the same amount of bullets, end of dicussion

[fast pulsar]

thats actually not what a discussion is...

[digital summit]

it's a saying

[fast pulsar]

Pointless

Do you also have massive lag on pc?

[digital summit]

fuck armor so much, I shouldn't lose a firefight to someone that's worse than me simply because they can take 25% more damage

[solar minnow]

stuttering like crazy

[digital summit]

I don't know, I'm currently too angry at the removal of 128 BT to even want to play

I know they want to do something about the low playercount, but REMOVING CONTENT is not how you do that

CONTENT I PRIMARILY BOUGHT THE FUCKING GAME FOR

[grizzled whale]

If they are worse than you you should still win

[fast pulsar]

Well for me 128BT was a big mess

[digital summit]

there were all the other options available if you don't like that mode

[grizzled whale]

128 was insanely unbalanced, and dead

[digital summit]

but there is no option available anymore for people who do like that mode

[white geyser]

IDK what DICE is thinking, removing the content it's just plain and stupid to do something like that

[digital summit]

the game was advertised and hyped around 128 player mode
they removed half of that

[fast pulsar]

and the starting points, I don't even want to talk about that. Sometimes the attackers were earlier at the objective than the defenders.... Imagine what the developers must have thought...

[digital summit]

it's literally no longer the product I paid money for

All of those are reasonable things to say that needed to be fixed

just removing the game mode isn't fixing it

[white geyser]

I still have 128 player mode in portal in my custom matchup, only some of the players came in my custom matchup, but IDK if I should go back to 64

[digital summit]

not Breakthrough

[fast pulsar]

Fixing needs manpower and time = - money

[digital summit]

that's not in Portal

[digital summit]

EA is a multi billion dollar company, that's no excuse

[fast pulsar]

i really hope they are going to switch to the Unreal Engine 5.. Frostbite takes too much effort and the results are crappy
Even more, frostbite feels like a frankenstein monster.. its dead, but still breathing somehow..

[digital summit]

I'd rather not. I really don't want to see 90% of games use the same engine

[white geyser]

Whatever DICE is doing to make season 1 update, they better do something about it to bring back the players and the content they gonna give us it better good or it will get worse if it didn't do right.

[digital summit]

UE5 is also super demanding on the CPU side of things as well

if anything, they should lower the amount of CPU need for the next game

[fast pulsar]

Well it can't be worse than what we have now

[digital summit]

went from 155fps average in BF1 to 70-90 in 2042

[solar minnow]

can't see why anyone would play breakthrough anymore now...

[dapper berry]

oh it can be trust me

[digital summit]

was about to say the same thing

[fast pulsar]

Yeah and frostbite is the reason for that. The super buggy engine no one knows how to handle it

[fast pulsar]

True that.. its still EA, everything is possible xD

[white geyser]

I don't feel like playing breakthrough, not only they reduce back to 64 player mode in breakthrough, I just wish they could have done it better.

[digital summit]

BF1 and BFV also run on Frostbite

[solar minnow]

mode feels way less engaging now..

[digital summit]

Dice just decided to have a new animation system or something, much more physics based, that takes up far more CPU power

[fast pulsar]

and after that, the lead devs for frostbite have left..

[white geyser]

Just stick to conquest mode, it still 128 on conquest

[digital summit]

hahaha no

it's the worst Conquest in a long time (not counting Hardline as I haven't played that myself)

[fast pulsar]

do you feel any difference about the weapon aiming on PC ?

[digital summit]

the maps are way too fucking big and the points are way too fucking spread in 128 CQ

[fast pulsar]

Dude, we don't say the word Hardl**** in here..

[digital summit]

It's 75% running between points

[solar minnow]

thoughts on the new breakthrough change?

boris and angel are useless now

[pallid orchid]

does anyone feel the lag ingame ?

[sacred wave]

yes

[solar minnow]

yes

[dapper berry]

yep, it's probably related to the input lag fix

how does mouse aiming feel for everyone btw ?

[solar minnow]

why is there so much rubberbanding now?

[solar minnow]

better but now that aim assist is fix console players dominate close quarters.

[fast pulsar]

Hey dice

is the increased rubberbanding a new feature?

[river basin]

4.1 update is live now on xbox series x!! Lfg!!

[bitter hill]

where's battlefield 6

[queen crypt]

it was 2036 battlefields ago

[solar minnow]

people who say this is a good update are full of it. Lost a 128 player breakthrough for 64 players which feels like a downgrade, Rubberbanding is now a thing, guns don't feel any better. Angel and Boris are completely not worth using now. I can't see any positive except moving the MAV to transport.

[eternal storm]

Guess I’m full of it. Anyway…

[queen crypt]

fr tho, I can understand nerfing Boris' sentry by a parameter or two

but the nerfed it by a lot in basically every parameter

[digital summit]

like I said earlier, I like the Angel downgrade, fuck armor plating, it has no place in shooters other than battle royal

[river basin]

U mad?

[solar minnow]

what's the point of using angel then?

[river basin]

2023

[solar minnow]

disappointed.

[uncut bay]

boris turrets needed a hard nerf, especially for hc, and armor plates are ass, should be removed entirely

[river basin]

That’s tuff. Why ?

[queen crypt]

He is really good at resupplying, just like Falk is really good at healing

[digital summit]

resupplying ammo, quick revive, resupplying on revive

[dapper berry]

guns feel better imo, i just had a 43/3 match with the AC-42

[digital summit]

he's just Falck with ammo rather than stem gun basically

[dapper berry]

angel still gives armor when reviving

[river basin]

Yeah guns feel good to me. Im on the xbox series x

[bitter hill]

bruh

[bitter hill]

nice

[queen crypt]

Before Angel was basically a good who can revive, resupply and give armour, he was a 3 in 1 package

[digital summit]

oh and the loadout crate...

[river basin]

Lfg can’t wait!

[solar minnow]

he's no different than someone carrying ammo crate now.

[digital summit]

this

[uncut bay]

yeah, his kit was bloated as hell and the cooldown time for his supply bag was crazy low

[dapper berry]

they have to fix the rubberbanding though, that's almost gamebreaking

[tall flame]

I'm sort of expecting something to be done about this in the specialist rework

[uncut bay]

why wouldn't you run angel when he was broken to the core

[tall flame]

It's like they're laying a foundation for the reworks

[digital summit]

sure, no difference. Other than being able to revive everyone except just squad mates, being able to revive quickly, still being able to carry a gadget and supply ammo, and let people change loadouts

[bitter hill]

lfg?

[grizzled whale]

dont you just love it when someone gets in your wildcat and starts spamming the minigun at tanks and shit, INSTEAD OF THE INFANTRY ACTIVELY TRYING TO BLOW ME UP

[digital summit]

no differences other than those

[bitter hill]

you gotta learn to fly with the hovercraft thingy

[queen crypt]

really minor really

[solar minnow]

still not feeling it. The matches I played people weren't happy about it.

[queen crypt]

though they really butchered Boris

[digital summit]

like the other said, Angel just had too much

[queen crypt]

yeah cause it was overpowered

[digital summit]

gotta test Boris out, but his turret was fucking bullshit when I played it

[queen crypt]

Of course people are going to be mad when their main gets toned down a notch

[solar minnow]

he got the worse end of it

[uncut bay]

it's unbelievable, people cry when things aren't fixed or balanced, and then cry when the obviously broken specialist is fixed

both boris and angel have been waiting for a nerf for a long while

[queen crypt]

It would have been fine if they reduced the damage, or reduced the fire rate

but they reduced both, which is dumb

[river basin]

U dont know what lfg means?

[bitter hill]

looking for group?

[solar minnow]

plus health

[grizzled whale]

sometimes, my genius.... it frightens me

[bitter hill]

idk people be throwing acronyms for anything now a days

[river basin]

Who on the xbox series x and tryna play some 4.1 bf 2042

[digital summit]

I'm sorry but detecting enemies that the player can't see, highlighting them, and following them through solid objects is BS
all I had to do was lay down, wait for my turret to give me a target, aim at the red outline and shoot
kill them before they had a change to know where I was

[solar minnow]

turret dies super quick.

[digital summit]

this was a while back, but that turret was BS

[solar minnow]

I killed his turret with less than half a mag.

[uncut bay]

it's utter bs. If a squad of boris players get together they can hold down a ridge with just turrets

[solar minnow]

not anymore. Can't really call him a defense character..

[uncut bay]

thankfully not anymore

[digital summit]

one of my reasons to play Sundance is that I can have an EMP grenade for those fuckers

[solar minnow]

he's literally useless. I saw maybe two people use him in the games I played.

[uncut bay]

good for them

[digital summit]

good

[uncut bay]

turrets should be supplement to the player, not a replacement

[solar minnow]

Now we Sundance everywhere lmao

[digital summit]

now get the fuck rid of Paik and her bullshit

[cunning raptor]

Did they update the menu screen with the big ship again?

[solar minnow]

watch her be a the next nerf

[digital summit]

the fact that she even got into the launch game baffles me

[queen crypt]

they could make it so she takes increased damage from slamming into objects

[digital summit]

"let's give players an actual fucking wallhack, great fucking idea!"

[uncut bay]

paik is also waiting for a nerf, her range could be reduced and instead of outlines just a simple icon

[solar minnow]

yeah, it's annoying people fly in and shoot you or throw C4 over you

[fast pulsar]

I love to hunt jets with condor and a good gunner.. 2-4 shots and theyre own

[solar minnow]

she's useless.

[digital summit]

and after paik it's the fucker with a shield

[queen crypt]

tbh every character could have gotten a major rework, and hopefully that is what DICE is planning on with the survey that they should be releasing any time now wink wink nudge nudge

[digital summit]

yeah sure he can stand right over C5 when it explodes and survive

[uncut bay]

got plenty of use out of her. Sundance is also obviously gonna get her wingsuit mechanics nerfed

dozer i feel is fine

[solar minnow]

you might as well get rid of the specialist if all there going to do is make them less fun.

[queen crypt]

I mean it is just like the flak jacket perk in previous games, plus his shield is not enough to carry him

[digital summit]

btw can anyone confirm if incendiary grenades started doing less damage since 4.0?

[uncut bay]

if you want broken specialists go play a hero shooter

[grizzled whale]

THEY FIXED MACKAY HOPPING

[river basin]

Whats yall fav mode in 2042

[digital summit]

I am getting a lot less kills with underbarrel incendiary for a while

[digital summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-walk-arrested-development-george-micheal-gif-12798555

128 player Breakthrough

[river basin]

*64 player

[solar minnow]

you really think DICE can fix the specialist?

[uncut bay]

i think they should try, instead of letting them all be broken in the name of "fun"

[digital summit]

a huge fix would be to CUT THOSE CRINGY ASS FUCKING LINES at the end

[river basin]

Contact dice

[uncut bay]

sure, let's give specialists wallhacks, op turrets, constant armor plates, that's a great idea!

[digital summit]

"I'm not over-confident I'm just" SHUT THE FUCK UP DUDE

[uncut bay]

it might be fun but it's terrible for gameplay, and they should be fixed

[grizzled whale]

im just better than everyone else

[solar minnow]

How? by making them less useful?

[scenic tartan]

New breakthrough is way better get good attack farmers

[solar minnow]

it's dead

[digital summit]

by making them less OP and not creating as many balancing isues

[scenic tartan]

I'll cry a tear for you not being able to re-queue until you get attack

[solar minnow]

it's not that. I mean the maps feel empty lmao

[scenic tartan]

This update essentially deleted the bolte and the game is better for it

If you stay on the point it's not empty

[digital summit]

only time I did that was when I was put on defence literally 12 times in a row because server continuation is a "legacy feature"

[grizzled whale]

not really, now bolte plebs take up a valuable tank/AA spot

[solar minnow]

nah it let trolls take up boltes just so we dont have tanks or AA

[scenic tartan]

They die fast and there's way fewer. Most will pick wildcat to take out the transports

If they are smart

I love using wildcat to shit on the op transports

[solar minnow]

they sit at the back shooting then once they die you have to wait a minute before someone else takes it.

[scenic tartan]

Bad transport pilots that think they can just hover on objective

[next onyx]

SCAR IS GOOD.

[solar minnow]

it's fine

[low timber]

Goodtimeswithscar?

[next onyx]

Very good times.

[scenic tartan]

Dm7 felt good too

[solar minnow]

the lag and rubberbanding is really annoying.

[grizzled whale]

Anyone tried the NTW yet?

now this is a squad of randoms

[shy latch]

why did they remove the armor from Angel?

[digital summit]

because he was way too OP with way too much shit

[shy latch]

op?

[digital summit]

overpowered

[shy latch]

no I mean I know what op means, my question was about the op itself

for me wasn't op at all

[grizzled whale]

okay NTW still shit

[digital summit]

He could and revive everyone and revive quickly, resupply, provide armor, and bring a loadout crate

and that's just his standard stuff, so you add the other loadout stuff as well (repair tool or rocket launcher or)

[shy latch]

yeah but when revive he gives you 50 hp and not full hp as Falck does

[digital summit]

true, but he still gives 25 armor plating

[shy latch]

20

[solar minnow]

why is the lag so bad?

[uncut bay]

armor + quick revive + supply crate + ammo/armor bag is far too bloated for one specialist

[digital summit]

okay, 20
just throw in a single falck to hit them with a stem gun and boom, 120 health with full resupply

[solar minnow]

is anyone else lagging whenever they shoot other players

[digital summit]

that's way too op

[queen crypt]

yup he was like several classes in one

he still gives armour when he revives, just no longer can dispense them at will

[digital summit]

exactly

[clear quail]

lmao there are people in the steam discussion forums who think they pushed back season 1

[queen crypt]

plus armour is a bad addition to the game, which only served Hazard Zone

rember how people were pissed at the body armour perk in BF4?

[uncut bay]

yeah, armor plates were obviously just a leftover for HZ/BR that was put into AOW for more content. It has no place in a regular mp game mode

[next onyx]

I'm glad they got rid of the primary source of armour now they have to go all the way and or just massively change it to be a flak jacket.

[digital summit]

thank you, somebody else said it

[next onyx]

Armour that directly affects gunfights is a shit game mechanic outside of battle royales.

[uncut bay]

^ completely ruins the flow of a gunfight

[shy latch]

I don't know, from my point of view 20 more hp (due to the armor plate) was only 1 more shot, 2 in the worst case (depending on the weapon, attachments and distance)

[digital summit]

it's fucking bullshit that I can lose to someone slightly worse than me because they have more health

[uncut bay]

1 or 2 more shots is an immense change to a game's ttk

[next onyx]

1 more shot though is all it takes to win you your gunfight

[digital summit]

and it fucks me up because once I'm good enough at a weapon, I know when I dealt enough damage and move on before I get a kill notification

[next onyx]

Pair it with the vector or a shotgun and you've won the game.

[digital summit]

well, can't rely on that anymore

[uncut bay]

i've lost count of how many times i died because someone had armor and i needed just one more shot to kill them. It's a stupid mechanic

[next onyx]

I can count either way, The gunfights I've won and lost due to armour.

It's horrible.

[river trench]

Yo hows the update

[uncut bay]

also fucks with muscle memory, i can no longer expect someone to die in a certain amount of time so i can move on the next target

[next onyx]

SCAR IS GOOD.

It's an incredibly good gun now.

[clear quail]

imma try the scar then

[next onyx]

No awkward recoil.

[uncut bay]

scar has always been pretty usable in my experience

[still vault]

SCAR was my go to gun before this patch ^^

[clear quail]

wbt now

[grizzled whale]

oh god

[next onyx]

Scar was at least C+ or B-

[grizzled whale]

now people are just camping on edges with LATV's

[next onyx]

But for now. It feels like a solid B+ to an A.

[clear quail]

every patch adds new content. And by content we mean new uses for vehicles

[dapper berry]

they also added rubberbanding, players asked for it

[lunar brook]

What does 4.1 have ?

[buoyant ore]

hello, can you please send this feedback to the correct team: they broke the game by removing 128 breakthrough

[still vault]

#game-news

[sacred wave]

has anyone noticed how much quieter it is without 2 million littlebirds and 1 million boltes trying to kill you from all directions ?

[solar minnow]

50mm cannon is annoying

[next onyx]

128p both in player count and layout was horrid.

[solar minnow]

playing 64 player breakthrough and 50mm canon lights everyone up cause there's NO COVER..

[next onyx]

Welcome to the maps of 2042 where transports are now better attack choppers.

[solar minnow]

No one is using AA...

[next onyx]

I don't want to complain but seriously that's how it is.

[solar minnow]

feels so toxic

[next onyx]

It's why 64p breakthrough and its layouts were preferred, Since there were less vehicles and less chance of being shot from every direction.

[hidden sand]

Vehicles are a lost cause in this game

[next onyx]

Hell, Breakthrough break away 64p is actually pretty awesome.

[solar minnow]

when had 128 players. there was a higher chance for AA to be used. now that it's 64 everyone run and guns and the transport destroys you.

[hidden sand]

The only feedback DICE are getting on vehicles is "pls nerf" even though none of them are truly op

[solar minnow]

The lack of AA is what's doing it.

transport choppers were made for 128. It's so easy to see.

[queen crypt]

bit sad that they combined the APC with the AA

if we had a IFV and an AA vehicle, we'd see a lot more of them around

[next onyx]

Might just be a me thing but dealing with transports on 64p doesn't yield much frustration.

[queen crypt]

but a lot of people just stop doing AA as soon as they unlock the higher calibre cannons for the Wildcat

[grizzled whale]

which is still AA

[solar minnow]

they dont't use for AA though. I see them going after players

[queen crypt]

yeah but its primary function changes a bit, imagine if we had a dedicated AA vehicle

[cedar turtle]

Did we figure how to fix the game yet?

[solar minnow]

no

[queen crypt]

slowly getting there lmao

like really really slowly

[hidden sand]

Does the 50mm on the wildcat no longer one shot on direct hits with infantry?

[solar minnow]

way too slow

[naive sandal]

Anyone wanna do some gun testing? Will host a 1 v 1 rush

[solar minnow]

I don't think many people will come back when S1 comes out.

[queen crypt]

Also its a bit fucked that we'll get like one map after half a year, with the first season

[grizzled whale]

it does but its iffy, always been

[solar minnow]

yeah, it's a slap to the face

[vivid oracle]

What's the weekly mission?

[solar minnow]

it's bugged

[hidden sand]

I'm sure there'll be two maps, one AoW and one Portal

[queen crypt]

yeah but a portal map isn't the same as a AoW map

if they allowed Portal maps in AoW that would be nice, weapons as well

[frank rain]

Will Breakthrough work in asia

[grizzled whale]

boris nerf is amazing, NTW is still garbage sadly

[hidden sand]

AoW should have never been a thing, 2042 content should have been purely placed into Portal

[grizzled whale]

i didnt notice any difference

[dim pumice]

they should have just made portal its own game

[solar minnow]

it does more damage to armor.

[grizzled whale]

maybe 1%

[solar minnow]

nah. it used to do 10 damage now it's 20. lmao

[grizzled whale]

still 4 shots to a latv

should be 2 on a latv, 5-8 on a tank

[solar minnow]

it's better at taking out light

[grizzled whale]

a latv is a jeep, and it takes 4 shots

still useless against vehicles, the thing its made for

[solar minnow]

used to take 6

[grizzled whale]

nope

always was 4

regardless of that, when you only have a 3 round mag, and a reload time of 47 weeks, its doesnt matter

by the time you can do enough damage to destroy it its:
A. out of range
B. destroyed by someone else
C. ran you over
D. Repair kit'ed

[solar minnow]

it is what it is.

[dapper berry]

new angel quote

[topaz field]

LOVE THE NEW UPDATEEEEEEEEE SO NICE ON PS4 SLIM

[solar minnow]

can some explain why the tickets are the same in 64p breakthrough...

600 tickets with 64 players takes forever...

[silk surge]

Is the input lag gone for you guys?

[queen crypt]

Cause it lasts trough the entire round, with only mild reinforcements

[vale gale]

laggy af

[solar minnow]

the lag is unreal still haven't fixed after 6 months

[dapper berry]

hard to tell with the rubberbanding, it feels better in between 2 lag spikes i think

[vale gale]

it got worst after the update

[queen crypt]

Definitely

[solar minnow]

the rubberbanding is new to me. I didn't have it before the update.

[low timber]

What? Why’s Battle of the Bulge back in flashback conquest?

[solar minnow]

lmao

[dapper berry]

yes it's new

[dapper berry]

i like it with 128 players tbh

[naive sandal]

I'm hosting a rush game for some gun testing, feel free to join (16v16 rush; 75 tickets; no vehicles)

[solar minnow]

I miss old breakthrough. why can't we have nice things?

[topaz field]

dafuq lmfaoo it was terrible lagged

[solar minnow]

bro it's laggy now with 64

[topaz field]

I rather quality over quantity

[digital summit]

when you say lagged do you mean server lag or just bad performance?

[solar minnow]

the update is trash. it's a laggy rubbanding mess

[topaz field]

what youi play on pc or ocnsole?

[next onyx]

I think it's partially a server issue but I'm not sure.

[solar minnow]

PC

[topaz field]

on console its great update big improvements when it comes to lag

[solar minnow]

before the update, everything was fine. now it's a hot mess

it's all over reddit lmao

[dapper berry]

bad performance

[digital summit]

the game is very CPU intensive

[dapper berry]

yeah it really feels like serverside rubberbanding, it might be able to get hotfixed

[queen crypt]

As long as they fix it quickly

[solar minnow]

hopefully we don't have to wait a month

[dapper berry]

fingers crossed

[vale gale]

fuck this game

[queen crypt]

Can't

Dont have a physical copy

[solar minnow]

i knew it was bad news. too many red flags.

[vale gale]

its not playable at all atm

[solar minnow]

they spent a month moving the bolte, nerfing favorite characters, removing content, and added lag and rubberbanding.

[queen crypt]

Imagine if they released the game with the previous update, in March-April. The discourse around the game would have been worlds apart

[solar minnow]

aren't updates suppose to add to the experience. not take away?

[next onyx]

They still need to configure armour to make it balanced.

[digital summit]

it just needs to be removed altogether

[next onyx]

I'd configure it to be a flak jacket.

No direct affect to gunfights.

[queen crypt]

how would it work as a gadget tho?