battlefield-2042

[heavy sleet]

but they arent going forward, theyre taking steps back by removing stuff

[surreal token]

where do u go to download 1942BF

[uncut bay]

not knowing something is fine, you don't need to make shit up to make yourself feel better

[solar minnow]

they just don't test anything and just throw patches out and see what's sticks..

[smoky plank]

you make it sound like this is the first time a game has ever removed something

[heavy sleet]

never seen a game such as battlefield remove something majority of the playerbase enjoys personally

[uncut bay]

they do lol, if they didn't test updates it would be glaringly obvious

[smoky plank]

Something that you enjoy

[torpid vortex]

did dscisiv get banned for saying he was number 1 2042 player?

[heavy sleet]

i just played with him last night

well, against him lol

[arctic grove]

@heavy sleet so what do you want ? ya keep bringing up the same thing ya dont like it. whe all know by now. and ya ignore people comments.

[random willow]

banned for cheating then unbanned cause crying

[solar minnow]

well the updates don't seem to reflect that.

[rancid jacinth]

Ye but everyone complains how bad it has become, they are still updating and working at there own pace to try get somewhere even if its going to take a while, if it does completely fail atleast they can say they ''tried'', although i admit it was there fault to begin with obviously.

[heavy sleet]

he's a good player i was about to call him an aimbotter till i found out who he was lol dude was doin 360s

[uncut bay]

they do. If you had any idea what an untested build looks like you wouldn't have such an opinion

[pine roost]

Is he a console or pc player?

[heavy sleet]

no idea, he was on the enemy team in first but i gave him his only 5 deaths LOL

[smoky plank]

prod bugs exist in about everything nowadays

[solar minnow]

2042 seems to be a good example of being untested.

[rancid jacinth]

Im debating on reinstalling 😬

[uncut bay]

fr lol some people think that because something has bugs it's untested

[torpid vortex]

is he hiding a robotic arm and machine learning software making mouse movement livestream?

[uncut bay]

go do QA work and see what untested looks like

[arctic grove]

@rancid jacinth same. frist need ea to fix the bug the caused by restore my save on console 😂 (try tomorrow) 24h reset login not fun xd. we need to get rdy for season 1 xd

[rancid jacinth]

fr ahaha

[arctic grove]

cant show picture no role xd

[pine roost]

Just found him on twitch, pc player which is nice. That’s some serious dedication right there

[fiery shoal]

high school kids and entry level job workers think its so simple..

[uncut bay]

after all, it's easy to mindlessly criticise when you've got no idea what you're talking about

[smoky plank]

^

[uncut bay]

it's one of my favorites honestly, people saying "they obviously didn't even test this"

[arctic grove]

welp even a perfect copy off same patches. can give diffrent bugs. in live server or test :p

[smoky plank]

regression bugs are a PITA

[uncut bay]

yep, something can be seemingly ready and suddenly have new bugs after shipping

annoying little things they are

[arctic grove]

1 improvment i like about bf2042 thats the can do some stuff server side compired to older titles

incase this bugs happens

[radiant prism]

99 little bugs in the code
99 little bugs
Take one down, patch it around
127 little bugs in the code

[smoky plank]

Multiplats still have rollout windows and approvals to work around

[arctic grove]

indeed

[smoky plank]

PC could be ready to ship in an instant - but gotta wait for approval by consoles, hence rolling out packaged patches for all

[arctic grove]

yeah but server side stuff what doesnt reqruire platform approve is way faster. but cant fix it all.

atleast i find it good. if its broken some stuff can be disabled xd

was fun to talk to the good people thx that didnt bash because it didnt seemed to fit there understanding why some stuff happens xd 😁 good night lovely community people (ya can decide yourself if your 1 off them ;))

[surreal token]

anyone at all?

[fiery shoal]

i am anyone

[surreal token]

i mean

how to get battelfield 1942

cause i have the original case and disc

[arctic grove]

download and play :p

[surreal token]

yes

how tho

[arctic grove]

did you put it in and does it download ? when ya go to where ya find disc right click administrator run

[smoky plank]

I don't think there are any servers for it lol

[arctic grove]

ya sure ?

[smoky plank]

maybe LAN

[surreal token]

it doesnt work on newer computers

[arctic grove]

i have it for free couple years on origin too XD

cracked disc before xd so still in libary haha

[surreal token]

my Microsoft XP died sometime last year

[smoky plank]

okay there are apparently a couple nearly dead servers lol

[surreal token]

i dont care about multiplayer

[arctic grove]

does it give errors ?

[surreal token]

ya

[arctic grove]

maybe tell so others can troubleshoot

[surreal token]

a couple

[smoky plank]

just gonna walk around empty maps?

[surreal token]

no imma do it with bots

[placid echo]

1942 has bots

[arctic grove]

indeed

[smoky plank]

goes to show how much I played non-multiplayer then

[arctic grove]

i actually might try it myself again that game lol

[placid echo]

I am having a lot of fun with Distance Master... perhaps too much?

[surreal token]

ya i used to play it when i was younger

[edgy oriole]

bc you made it cheater

[placid echo]

lol

[arctic grove]

Recon cheats

[edgy oriole]

[placid echo]

There were 29 people in that match and only 7 people got kills

[arctic grove]

[placid echo]

Using a controller btw, although I guess a DXR with Extended Barrel and High Power helps

[arctic grove]

Imagine talking with bots. Now that we got Voip

[next isle]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-is-the-game-was-rigged-from-the-start-fallout-new-vegas-gif-14316695

[heavy sleet]

as of tomorrow the 2042 playerbase will be so low

[lyric solar]

I just finished reading the patch notes, but didn’t see anything under the audio section mentioning the in game music and ambience being fixed. I know it’s a known problem that the music won’t play in lobby and at the start of games, does anyone know if this is gonna be fixed?

[heavy sleet]

im gonna LOL

[placid echo]

I am not a cheater! :(

[arctic grove]

That guy on the left with the mustache tho.

[heavy sleet]

i really wanna play fallout again but the nv graphics suck and fallout 4 is boring af storyline

[arctic grove]

cheech and chong status

[next isle]

New Vegas is literal art

[heavy sleet]

wonder if theres a 4k nv mod yet

[arctic grove]

NV dlc stories are better tbh

[heavy sleet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZqQmKsTqIA yep there is

[smoky plank]

could always be a stealth fix

wont know until tomorrow

[heavy sleet]

skyrim 4k mod is so nice but theres no way to actually download ONE mod, u have to copy their mod list which takes ages to download / install properly

[pine roost]

Considering the number of stealth changes in the last patch, there is a possibility

[arctic grove]

didnt fallout 4 later add payment for mods and to extend building limit (altrough it was easy exploited before lol) i quited before mods where supported officially console. seemed to me bug got turned into a feature 😁

[lyric solar]

True

[edgy oriole]

the game keeps getting enemy health to 12 and i cant finish them off. i have to dump a whole mag for it to register

well it mightve been the server bc it just kicked me out

[surreal token]

anyone know how to set up a Windows XP to a modern Monitor

[cedar turtle]

I'm confused

[surreal token]

Can I get someone in a vc to help me?

[hexed mango]

All-Out Warfare playlists have been updated with new setups, removing Breakthrough 128 from the list of options on Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation 5, and PC only, with more detail on the changes further down the page.
am i reading that correctly...?

[ember nimbus]

Depends, how are you interpreting it? /s

[honest comet]

@edgy oriole get good lol

[edgy oriole]

[solar minnow]

yes

[solar minnow]

its getting even more lame. some maps will retain 128 player space. so it will take longer to get from objective to objective.

[arctic grove]

not english sorry cant help. so whats your issue about the monitor ? you trying to connect windows xp to hdmi screen ?

[surreal token]

I now got it connected but the computer won't turn on. It's 18 years old btw

[arctic grove]

does it turn on without monitor ?

[surreal token]

No

[wide shore]

Yeeeeep 😒

[surreal token]

The monitor works

The monitor is fine. It's the desktop that is having issues

[arctic grove]

well if ya cant turn that on then there can be lots issues. next question. does it get even power ? (idk if that pc got lights to show if turned of or on)

[surreal token]

There is a green light in the back but the light power isn't working

[nocturne cairn]

nice

whait, thats your game mode lol. Of course your having fun with it

[arctic grove]

does it blink ? if yes more issues

[surreal token]

Nope. No light at all

[hexed mango]

unfortunate.

[surreal token]

The green light in the back is still on

[hexed mango]

yeah idk why they kept some maps on 128 and not just switch them all to 64 lol

[nocturne cairn]

can you guys do this tech session privately?

wonderful that you wana help eachother out and all

[hexed mango]

other than that change to AoW, the other stuff is nice, boris and angel nerf 😎

[solar minnow]

Yeah makes no sense.

[arctic grove]

i hoped somebody else could help too lol

[surreal token]

Same

[hexed mango]

so maybe like contact like the people who make your monitor, or get real tech specialists

cause i mean last time i checked battlefield isnt a monitor company

[surreal token]

Oh my God ur a dumbass

[hexed mango]

heheheha

[arctic grove]

:p gotta love the community hehe

[surreal token]

Yup

[nocturne cairn]

having been loosely part of this community since 1942

this community is spastic and unrelateable

[hexed mango]

i mean im not the one who asked

anyone know how to set up a Windows XP to a modern Monitor
in a game channel

but you know

[hexed mango]

❤️‍🔥

[hexed mango]

basically they removed my most played gamemode, that's how im interpreting it

[nocturne cairn]

same, I bounce between the featured modes 128 CQ and BT

[edgy oriole]

i only play 128bt so im hoping 64bt wont suck huge balls *or else i wont play the game since this is the only mode i enjoy lol

[hexed mango]

yeah exactly. i usually play portal featured, 128 BT and now and again CQ, guess ill just play more CQ now that 128 BT is gone...

[nocturne cairn]

do most of my recording and livestreaming for people in 128 BT because its the most "battlefield" game mode to my viewrs

its literally the trailers they sold us

[hexed mango]

i mean i thinnk it'd be better if they actually fully sent it and switched the maps to 64p not keeping the 128p maps for like 3 of the maps...

[nocturne cairn]

whole team starts in the same spot. Mob out

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bG2s6.gif

[nocturne cairn]

I'm a real mad lad. Give me 128 players on a 64 player map layout

[hexed mango]

i mean i loved bt in bf1, and im so glad i got to play it in its glory, until it will now be ripped from my hands

[nocturne cairn]

eat me

[arctic grove]

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bGYSj.gif

[nocturne cairn]

I have enough amazing footage to remember the scale of this game I guess.

[nocturne cairn]

I just never thought battlefield of all franchises would be backpedaling their own ambitions

[hexed mango]

yeah ig same for me, i just love it too much to accept its removal

[hexed mango]

lmao ikr...

i hope they dont remove it entirely

but also when i first read "changes to AoW" i thought they were officially adding rush or smth to AoW... which i would love
but no... only disappointment

[edgy oriole]

im not going to play conquest so i have to enjoy 64bt

[nocturne cairn]

there is the LONG SHOT that Respawn entertainment is going to completely take this in the opposite direction as they take over the project

[edgy oriole]

#bringfrontlineback

[hexed mango]

although, all things considered, 4.1 removing 128p bt isnt the worst thing in the world

[nocturne cairn]

you dont play conquest?

I need to see what else its doing other than breaking me heart

[hexed mango]

My hopes:

• Rush & TDM added to AoW official
• Simplify 64p to 128p (like make it one item in the list, and just have it be a setting on the tile to change between the two)
• More portal improvements (specifically to the code editor)
• More specialists, maps, guns (basically S1)
• More lore :)

[nocturne cairn]

please dont do that

[hexed mango]

which :) heheheha

[nocturne cairn]

it takes seconds do google the real info

[arctic grove]

Same. It was pretty much al I played on AOW

[fossil trench]

Is there no zeroing?

[hexed mango]

wait google what

[nocturne cairn]

the patch notes

[hexed mango]

wait who are you talking to

[nocturne cairn]

whoever is recounting the patch info from memory

[hexed mango]

me?

[nocturne cairn]

yes?

[hexed mango]

this?

confused, i am

[nocturne cairn]

Oh my bad. I re-read your post

[hexed mango]

lol ok

[nocturne cairn]

you were talking about what you hope

[hexed mango]

yes

[nocturne cairn]

was in the patch, I misread as in the patch

they removed angels armor plates?

[hexed mango]

i guess so

[arctic grove]

Time to play some 128 CQ to get used to it

[nocturne cairn]

thats dum. Im sure people were only complaining because of the weekly missions

[hexed mango]

i mean angel nerf is an angel nerf...

[arctic grove]

I like 128 CQ on Orbital the most honestly

[hexed mango]

orbital is a fun map ngl

[nocturne cairn]

orbital is a great map overall

they nerfed attatchments too x( across the board

[hexed mango]

or wait i think that patch note means that when a player is using the supply bag (like opening the crate maybe) they wont get armor from it
only from the armor plates he gives out

[arctic grove]

Im still not sure what the thing with attachments means

[nocturne cairn]

to be more homogenous and make the guns feel better with nothing on them which no body plays like that

fu*k who comes up with these fixes

[hexed mango]

4.0 was great, 4.1 is below par

[nocturne cairn]

anything you use in the plus system

scopes barrels ammo underbarrel

[hexed mango]

The impact of recoil affecting attachments has been lowered, while base weapon recoil has been improved to compensate. This means weapons without attachments now handle better
no just attachments that handle recoil
and ig without any, but not all attachments are affected

[nocturne cairn]

you just posted it

[river trench]

Season 1 early june les go

[arctic grove]

Gib M45A1 in S1

[hexed mango]

less go

[nocturne cairn]

yeah. So every gun in the game and every respective recoil or accuracy related attatchment

[hexed mango]

i believe its already been leaked to be in the game then

[arctic grove]

Ye it is, hopefully it goes through

[hexed mango]

along with M17

[arctic grove]

M17 and M45A1 look great in general

[hexed mango]

always

[topaz field]

Oh man y'all got the #1 battlefield 2042 player banned 😫

[arctic grove]

Hopefully later on we get the M9A4 as well

[hexed mango]

wait the guy that streams 24/7? with #1 kills?

[nocturne cairn]

whos the "#1" battlefield player

[topaz field]

Yeah he got banned 😫

[hexed mango]

good.

[topaz field]

🤣🤣😭😭

https://twitter.com/FoxsOut/status/1526952067260203008?t=BHHEBKNQulLpemQOxQXpoA&s=19

[hexed mango]

LMAO NICE

[topaz field]

These guys tear up infantry all day every day in heli

[hexed mango]

im glad

I hope Ashe passes

[topaz field]

I saw another twitch streamer crying on the official battlefield Twitter page that they need to fix the flares. Like bro you go like 50-0 per match why are you crying there's other important things in the game to be fixed -ashebf

[hexed mango]

flares are fine bro

[topaz field]

Lmaoooo I like watching him but man he cries about getting killed bro you're like 40-0

[hexed mango]

ayo nice it shows level on tracker now

[hearty sky]

This guys montages remind me of early faze and other clan montages from the early cod days with the transitions

[topaz field]

Whattttt I gotta check!!

[nocturne cairn]

thats the worst vibe. I dont know how people can watch long streams of that

[topaz field]

I work at night so sometimes I watch like 30-40mins of their streams

[hexed mango]

totally not but totally am flexing

[nocturne cairn]

not the link per se but the whiny 40-0 pilots

[topaz field]

Lmfaoooooo

[river trench]

The #1 player is unbanned now

[hexed mango]

nooooooooooo

[nocturne cairn]

dont wurry ill kill im

point me at the little bird

[hexed mango]

idk, gooey can attest, but that guy is annoying ngl

[edgy oriole]

wait what

[hexed mango]

when he isnt using smug little bird he uses angel + m5 nonstop

[hexed mango]

lol well yes.

[edgy oriole]

[hexed mango]

on a completely unrelated note, how have you been

[edgy oriole]

you calling me annoying huh

[nocturne cairn]

nah gooey hes calling out the birdman. your a witness

[hexed mango]

what?

[edgy oriole]

oh. ye he likes to use air. he also uses pp and m5.

[hexed mango]

that is/was not my intention <3

[arctic grove]

I think he meant gooey can attest to the number 1 player being annoying

[hexed mango]

gooey you are a larger simp

[edgy oriole]

i killed him before and i knew he wouldve been big mad and i was right

[arctic grove]

Gooey is #1?

[hexed mango]

send the clip

[edgy oriole]

https://clips.twitch.tv/RamshackleRelatedCasettePRChase-k3B7kl8jS7bvLPkJ

[honest comet]

man this annoyin plane nubs, that spin in circle if u catch them forver

[hexed mango]

"yeah, right. dude. wtf!"

[arctic grove]

Yeah those damn SMGs piss me off lol

[edgy oriole]

after i killed him i was like "this dude gotta be mad at that." and i went to his stream and i was right

[topaz field]

Alot of the #1 dudes run armor plate and get revived afterwards

[hexed mango]

yeah lol

i intend on being #1 in deaths...

[nocturne cairn]

lol

[hexed mango]

therefore i can tell my parents i am #1 at something, just dont have to tell them what

[topaz field]

I'm glad the armor is going away sick of that shit

[arctic grove]

Nevermind, why’d i think gooey was the streamer and he got killed

Fully condone SMGs against that guy

[nocturne cairn]

I'm a hyperlethal vector so armor doesn't mean much to me

smugly brushes blood off coat

[edgy oriole]

he is a good player tho. i was trying to flank him and he flanked my flank. but i prevail

[arctic grove]

I’ve never really thought much of armor, but I can see why it’d be annoying for snipers

Imagine if gooey was a twitch streamer

[nocturne cairn]

snipers are the strongest theyve been though

[edgy oriole]

no im orange jump suit falck

[nocturne cairn]

the armor gives average players a chance

[next onyx]

The way they've worded it has me concerned. Will angel still give people armour when he revives? We will see.

[nocturne cairn]

games should NEVER be balanced off of the 1%

[topaz field]

Damn my K/D went from 2.22 to 2.26 I'm doing good I'm on ps4 btw 🤣

[edgy oriole]

im pretty decent at games and ive thought about it, but i have the worlds shittiest internet.

[next onyx]

Anyways armour being less common is always a good outlook.

[topaz field]

Also remember alot of these guys play on PC So they mainly far bots that's why they have alot of high k/d and kills

[nocturne cairn]

lol my perspective on armor is sometimes it feels like im shooting a bf1 player (no armor) somtimes im shooting a bf5 palyer (armor)

[arctic grove]

Damn i hate potato internet too

[nocturne cairn]

both die supa fast anyways

I'm in the luck, 1gig up and down for me

[next onyx]

Bf5 had a very good ttk.

[nocturne cairn]

lol

[white geyser]

The previous battlefield games have night maps, I hope 2042 gets one after they're done fixing the game

[nocturne cairn]

if they could ever settle down on what it was maybe

[arctic grove]

I like its TTK, really fast and apparently was what made a lot of people hate it but

[nocturne cairn]

I may have had my analogy backwards on my armor point

did they leave bf5 with fast or slow ttk

[next onyx]

There were issues like the ZH and stuff but it was pretty well done.

[edgy oriole]

manifest

[next onyx]

I'm looking forward to using the Scar H now.

[arctic grove]

The map in the exodus trailer would also meet your request. Should that ever become one

[edgy oriole]

i wanna shoot one in real life. i watched a video and they said it was the modern day BAR. and that sounds powerful

[jaunty parcel]

40 armor and still rages because he cant track a target lmao

[next onyx]

Yeah I was gonna say we have manifest. The reason why it's so bright is the damn light pollution.

[nocturne cairn]

I swore off all the ars with GL under it untill patch 4.0 because the ads bug was so bad

[next onyx]

Oh yeah that sounds right gooey.

[nocturne cairn]

they have been working great since the patch

only had the ads bug twice in like 20hrs

[arctic grove]

Sometimes im pretty bad at tracking myself when you can jump and what not right into firefights lol

[white geyser]

Manifest, I don't think it's actually night map when it still bright

[arctic grove]

It technically is. Just not annoyingly dark

[next onyx]

What be amazed how much a bunch of lights can change things.

[edgy oriole]

for real. all dice gotta do is add a darker light filter to the maps and bam. its fixed

[white geyser]

A new night map would be better

[edgy oriole]

but i dont make games so idk how hard/easy it would be to do that

[lyric solar]

I’m assuming the weekly is gonna reset tomorrow again

[elder patrol]

Boris

[next onyx]

Do you not understand how much lights can brighten things up?

Sorry this sounds so petty but reeeee.

[edgy oriole]

one of the last times im gonna see this

[nocturne cairn]

playing right now

[elder patrol]

It is a sad day

[nocturne cairn]

Imagine if the devs on bf4 were like "operation locker and metro are a little to chaotic" "We lowered the amount of players to 32 to preserve the ability of squads to make meaningful impact in matches."

it just doesnt wash i tell ya

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/beuUo.gif

[elder patrol]

Atleast the ntw will be good against vehicles again

[edgy oriole]

bruh i got done t1 pbx and started the pp. this thing is either still broke or pbx sucks

[nocturne cairn]

xD I hate that I understand that combination of words.

bullets kill, I honestly cant say any gun is hard to shoot with at any range

even the pp and its big recoil

[waxen hinge]

Update tmr :] nothing said about condor/hind

Or k30/mp9

[white geyser]

New vehicles should be added, just need a new LAV

[nocturne cairn]

boat expansions when....

[waxen hinge]

Balance game first

B O A T

[nocturne cairn]

I cant argue with that

[elder patrol]

B O A T

[waxen hinge]

Somrtimes the k30/mp9 has more range than DMR's

[white geyser]

How can they add boats, if they don't add a map where it has ocean?

[nocturne cairn]

thats the joke. I wasnt being 100%

[waxen hinge]

Condor/hind just shreds everything. Hovercraft cant climb buildings anymore

[hexed mango]

well manifest and orbital and discarded have water

[nocturne cairn]

I do unironically miss boats but they have clearly designed the maps to not have any water features where boats would help

exept for ah, Korean Central Park map

[hexed mango]

nvm fixed text black on white instead of white on white (that sounds weird)

[solar minnow]

it really is

[nocturne cairn]

that map could REALLY use some boats

[hexed mango]

even just a jetski would be nice lmao

[nocturne cairn]

yeah seriously. its just lazy that theres nothing there

[white geyser]

They should rework manifest map and add the boats where players can use it

[waxen hinge]

Im gonna miss 128. But im not gonna miss it. If that makes sense

[hexed mango]

no it literally doesnt

[smoky plank]

Same

[nocturne cairn]

No

[waxen hinge]

R H I B B O A T S

[nocturne cairn]

explain. That statement is mEANingleiss

[hexed mango]

rhib would be nice, but i think LCAA is a nice placeholder

[nocturne cairn]

the have rhib boats in the game already

[white geyser]

Breakthrough will be 64 players, but what about conquest? they gonna stick to 128 players on conquest??

[hexed mango]

literally it can be simplified to "If that makes sense" and still mean the same thing

[nocturne cairn]

they could just plop them over from portal for all i care

[hexed mango]

yeah that is what they said

[smoky plank]

BT128 was fun, but hopefully BT64 is a new and diff experience with different wait times

[nocturne cairn]

not that.. saying that you will and wont miss breakthough

[hexed mango]

I dont like cats, but i like cats. you know?

doesnt make sense.

idk why i responded to your message but lol whatever

[nocturne cairn]

you didnt say it valentine did I want to know what the person who said it actually meant

[hexed mango]

yeah yeah

[nocturne cairn]

lol

[white geyser]

I haven't spend time on breakthrough with 128 players, ever since I unlocked the Mr friendly skin for my wildcat tank, I'll just keep spending my time on conquest.

[solar minnow]

I'm headed back to conquest after the patch

[arctic grove]

Crysis mackay is cool

[smoky plank]

I’ll continue bouncing around modes like usual

Wonder what tomorrows portal playlist will bring

[arctic grove]

‽

[long osprey]

completely useless to remove breakthrough 128, if you don't like the game mode you play in 64...this update ruins the experience of many breakthrough 128 players

[elder patrol]

Would be cool to have a night map

[long osprey]

afterwards, they nerfed Boris, and that thank you very much

[smoky plank]

I kinda understand the reasoning tho. Low player base and splitting it between 128/64. Reduce to 64 to fill up servers easier until a hopeful bump in player base after S1 brings it back

[arctic grove]

Splitting between 128 and 64 wasn’t that good yeah

[long osprey]

it's true, deleting the 128 will allow to have full servers in players

[elder patrol]

Just kinda weird how one of the selling points was 128 players but one of the modes has to be 64

[long osprey]

I'm a fan of the 128, adrenaline, chaos, I play helicopter like infantry, and no difficulty attacking. It makes me sad to know that they are removing this mode.

[arctic grove]

Its definitely weird

[long osprey]

sure

[smoky plank]

Im sure they didn’t expect playerbase to fall off a cliff - we in damage control

[elder patrol]

It would be better if there was a option to choose 128 or 64 player mode lol

[arctic grove]

Then again the player base is already so sparse chances are they’d rather smite 128 so 64 can exist

[smoky plank]

Quicker to get in game, less bots. Yeah

[elder patrol]

Wonder if conquest will also be affected

[arctic grove]

No, otherwise that’d be false advertisement

[smoky plank]

Battlefields strongpoint is CQ

[long osprey]

I have read the entire update and totally approve of the update other than the fact that Breakthrough 128 is gone. Boris nerf it's a big thank you. Angel losing his shields.....why?

[elder patrol]

Angles armor is broken asf

[long osprey]

angel is not op

[smoky plank]

Armor is kinda cheap when you hand it out to everyone

[long osprey]

ah

[arctic grove]

The only problem with angel is you can use SOFLAM in one class, then switch to another with the M5 for ezpz vehicle deletion

[long osprey]

that's true

[elder patrol]

You can supply a whole team armor/ammo with health and a whole class crate

[smoky plank]

I’d be fine if they just limited armor to Irish

[long osprey]

why not, irish is a bit useless except in defence.

[arctic grove]

That would be gadget locking to certain class specialists, but that’s a plausible thing we’ll see in the specialist rework so I don’t think that’s a bad thing

[hard plume]

Well 128 bt was the only reason i played 2042 so, i’m probably done for a good while

[smoky plank]

Well Irish’s passive is also picking up armor from downed enemies

[arctic grove]

Im still gonna play but damn

128 BT was my go-to as well

[elder patrol]

It surely will be missed as the goat mode

[smoky plank]

Keep the armor gadget the way it is. Just remove Angel’s armor perks entirely

[long osprey]

you can keep playing in 64, but the adrenaline won't be there anymore.

[hard plume]

Yeah ive rather not bother with an inferior version

[long osprey]

i need to go, bye see yu next time

[hard plume]

Bye

[arctic grove]

To be fair though, i can’t think of an alternative solution

[elder patrol]

You mean for 128 bt?

[nocturne cairn]

theres 128 player classic maps right now

[arctic grove]

Ye

[nocturne cairn]

thats a rare breed that we probably wont see again

[elder patrol]

True, bt is just so good

[hard plume]

Maybe we can make one in portal

[nocturne cairn]

maybe..

[smoky plank]

I wouldn’t write it off as gone entirely, unless they can’t up the playerbase

[elder patrol]

I guess, they did fix the xp for portal right?

[nocturne cairn]

ive never seen a full portal game. and no they didnt fix progression

[hard plume]

Believe so

[elder patrol]

Well shit

[nocturne cairn]

its still handicapped

[arctic grove]

sup

[fervent grotto]

Why tf does the scar start out with high power

[hard plume]

Hardcore conquest is always full

[smoky plank]

Featured portal playlists have fixed progression from what I’m aware of

[fervent grotto]

That’s cancerous

[nocturne cairn]

the portal community is a ghost town on the server browser. Not very much variety

[elder patrol]

Then I lose hope on bt for now

[smoky plank]

Recently T1’d a gun in 128 Flashback

[hard plume]

I feel like at this point xp doesn’t matter much

[nocturne cairn]

I said no variety. not no servers

[hard plume]

Ah sorry

[nocturne cairn]

its 50/50 hc conquest with middling player counts and oddball ai mixed games with spoofed player counds

[fossil trench]

Yeah Portal is dead in the ground rn

[elder patrol]

Meh.... need new content

[arctic grove]

I like portals bot farming servers on el alamein

[nocturne cairn]

ping is pretty bad compared to previous titles on community servers too

[fossil trench]

DICE needs to add paid-for permanent servers

[smoky plank]

^

[nocturne cairn]

I have a 1gig connection and my avg piung is around 150 in most portal servers

thats on them.

[hard plume]

Well i guess i’ll see you guys maybe in fall or something, or if they add that mode back

[arctic grove]

thinking of getting bak into it. is 2042 good right now?

[hard plume]

We’ll see

[fossil trench]

Still the same lol

[nocturne cairn]

the game plays smoother than ever but the community is suffering

[arctic grove]

Wait for June

[smoky plank]

Need content, rent a server, server browser for AOW, and that covers much of my checklist lol

[arctic grove]

when does the season start?

[fossil trench]

But I think it’s a bit better than it was

[nocturne cairn]

just try it? why are you asking people?

[hard plume]

And 128 bt lol

[smoky plank]

June

[elder patrol]

June ish

[arctic grove]

will here be a new map?

[elder patrol]

Maybe maybe not

[arctic grove]

ok then I wait

[fossil trench]

“Early June”

[arctic grove]

Don’t reinstall till June, and im saying this as someone who plays weekly

If you want new content, Season 1 starts around this time in June

[nocturne cairn]

nobody knows the company has dropped all the schedules that they had before

[arctic grove]

Yeah there is one map per season

[nocturne cairn]

sorry i meante the quote for you

[smoky plank]

That needs retention. I think a lot of issues are retention between servers and portal

[nocturne cairn]

the only date's they seem to be keeping are for thepatches

[fossil trench]

Don’t be listening to Tom lol

Tom the Clown

[arctic grove]

who is tom

[fossil trench]

Tom Henderson

[arctic grove]

k

[nocturne cairn]

wut

[arctic grove]

I don’t expect more than one per season but honestly, for 4 seasons and only 4 new AOW maps coming to this game? I’d like to think it’s BS too

[fossil trench]

No one knows anything about Season 1

Is what I’m saying

[nocturne cairn]

yeah, all promises on game schedule are up in the air

only trust the patch notes

[arctic grove]

i hope its new map, more guns, no heroes and back to oldschool

[nocturne cairn]

they're just gadgets with bodies I dont know why everyone is on about that.

they even have the classes written under their names

[fossil trench]

I want a 128 player CQC map

[smoky plank]

Exposure/Drained seems like the new map we would be getting first since the earliest leaks

[arctic grove]

I just cant stand some of them

[nocturne cairn]

YES YES YES

[arctic grove]

I want a default assault

[nocturne cairn]

128 player on a 64 rotation featured game mode. needs to be done.

[wide shore]

Flashback Conquest is literally this rn

[fossil trench]

I’m so sick of these massive flat maps with zero cover

[nocturne cairn]

I feel you on the grating one liners

[arctic grove]

lol

[wide shore]

Flashback CQ 128 is great. But the rounds are far too short.

[nocturne cairn]

but im mourning 128 breakthrough right now

did they not increase the tickets for the 128 mode?

[wide shore]

They might’ve. But it doesn’t feel like it

[arctic grove]

Theres concept art for drained. Or so it may be, since it fits that datamined name, but it could also be Ridges lake or something

what is ridge

[next onyx]

Give us another floodzone.

[arctic grove]

Its a map that was datamined a few months back

[fossil trench]

I’m looking at you, Discarded

[wide shore]

But make it a good map

[next onyx]

Floodzone wasn't all too bad of a map in all honesty.

[arctic grove]

looking good?

[nocturne cairn]

mmm leveloutions

[elder patrol]

Hell yeah I loved that map

[nocturne cairn]

gimme a lancang dam but with real cover lol

[smoky plank]

It was first kinda revealed in an interview back in December as Exposure, then later datamined in what could be Drained

[fossil trench]

I found my new favorite gun

[wide shore]

I hated it. It felt disjointed. Can get shot from every direction, every rooftop. Not to mention all the fucking snipers on the skyscrapers

[arctic grove]

ok I wait till june. will play some cyperpunk till then lol. never played. by the thime im done I hope BG is ready lol

Yeah i didnt like flood zone at all

[next onyx]

Yeah to be fair I always saw the snipers as easy kills so they were a none issue for me.

[wide shore]

The gimmick was cool

[elder patrol]

Mmmm snipers, that's the best part

[nocturne cairn]

the Dam? Yeah I have nostalgia but that map layout was crap for infantry.

[fossil trench]

NTW-50 is so fun to use

[smoky plank]

actually looks like drained is a different working title for a diff map

[wide shore]

Not Lancang, Lancang was actually the worst map in the game

[nocturne cairn]

I just like the leveloution

[elder patrol]

Jesus christ the end game screen was like if you gave a 5 year old a marker and told him to draw the specialists

[arctic grove]

its just a gimmik dude

[nocturne cairn]

maybe in Lancang dam, but not in other maps

[arctic grove]

it happens and its over. every time

[nocturne cairn]

I like the change of map layout

[fossil trench]

Are they gonna add the ability to become squad leader

[arctic grove]

NTW is great, just annoying to get harassed by. But it gets its job done

[nocturne cairn]

its not just the ooohh ahhh explosions

[thorny orchid]

yo yo yo everyone relax

no need for everyone to be irate

[nocturne cairn]

im chillin. we're talkin battlefield

[arctic grove]

Its funny how now NTW can damage tracks, which totally wont be annoying as hell for any remaining armor players, so many counters and the least tanks could get are trophy systems

[thorny orchid]

aight

[arctic grove]

tf

[wide shore]

You know what map really sucked? Lumphini Gardens

[nocturne cairn]

lumpy garden isnt that bad

[fossil trench]

Most people never even played the DLC maps

[smoky plank]

[fossil trench]

Back when premium was a thing…

[nocturne cairn]

it was rough for anyone who wanted do do cqc tho

[wide shore]

I wish I didn’t.

[arctic grove]

I only played em for the dlc gun challenges and after that I abandoned them

[nocturne cairn]

I dont get you people who write off portions of the game you have

[eternal storm]

I hate going in the older bfs and no one plays dlc maps

[fossil trench]

Right?

[thorny orchid]

You play console?

[nocturne cairn]

i play all the content and search out servers to play all the content

[eternal storm]

Pc mate

[fossil trench]

It should go F2P permanently

[smoky plank]

I used to love Guilin Peaks

[arctic grove]

Naval assault (I may have the name wrong) seemed like such a great game mode too, never could find a server of it

[eternal storm]

Yeah I never got to play that one

[wide shore]

Tbf. I just hate BF4

[nocturne cairn]

wat theres tons of 24/7 water map rotation servers

[smoky plank]

Naval assault was also a lot of fun when it was popping

[fossil trench]

The only DLC map that always has players is Metro

[arctic grove]

Yup metros pretty solid

[nocturne cairn]

we're talking bf4 right?

[elder patrol]

I wonder why

[arctic grove]

Ye

[fossil trench]

Fun meat grinder

[wide shore]

Cause it was one of the only good maps

[smoky plank]

Map envy

[nocturne cairn]

I actually dont like metro/locker but I respect their esteem in the community

[fossil trench]

We need a BF2042 meat grinder map

[nocturne cairn]

they dont have anything like it in this game yet. Yeah grinder mind

[smoky plank]

Meat grinders were fun in small doses

[arctic grove]

Could be ridge if its primarily focused around the facility exposed by the earthquake

[nocturne cairn]

Its why removing 128 breakthough is madness. I think they will be losing a lot of regular players who dont play other modes. The GRINDERS

Im a wierdo who trys everything

[arctic grove]

Its my favorite for the weeklies

[nocturne cairn]

vehicles, squad death match. Ive even try to matchmake hazard zone

I loved having rush in rotation too that was a good time

[smoky plank]

needs players to have nice things

[arctic grove]

yos

[nocturne cairn]

thats the thing though. Ive had great games even as the lobby slowly fill late night. not all modes need that many people

[next onyx]

Bf4 had some pretty alright and then some pretty crap maps.

[nocturne cairn]

truth

[next onyx]

Dawnbreaker comes to mind at being a decent map.

I would love a 128p variant of that map honestly.

[nocturne cairn]

caspian border 2.0 was great. I wish tehy used that instead of the bf3 one

[next onyx]

Actually I will admit it was kinda weird playing the original caspian border.

[nocturne cairn]

a lot of classic maps are more than big enough to handle 128

[smoky plank]

Op Firestorm comes to mind as a forgettable map

[nocturne cairn]

I want to like it but I hate it

[next onyx]

I'm more used to the 2014 version than I am with the original one.

[arctic grove]

My only memory of firestorm was my entire damn team getting farmed by an A10

[next onyx]

Oh yeah operation fire storm wasn't particularly memorable unless you mained vehicles.

[nocturne cairn]

lol it is a vehicle centric map

[smoky plank]

it was one road in the desert lol

[arctic grove]

Yeah it was fun when I was using the abrams

[next onyx]

Even though it's battlefield it's vehicle focused, The issue with vehicle centric maps is that they're not fun when you're not in a vehicle.

[edgy oriole]

just played a breakaway match and won on A point while defending

[nocturne cairn]

Silk road

[smoky plank]

like the warehouses and stuff were cool to duck in and out of, but what seemed like miles of flat desert surrounding them

[nocturne cairn]

i like silk road way more than firestorm. The points all felt very different

[arctic grove]

Breakaway is so infuriating when defending once you get pushed to the train track type of thing, not only that but enemy transports have a hay day

[nocturne cairn]

transports are lovel, transports are life

[arctic grove]

Theyre fun and agony at the same time lol

[smoky plank]

silk road has so much more verticality and sand dunes to block LOS

[nocturne cairn]

exactly.

[smoky plank]

plus dirtbikes were awesome

[nocturne cairn]

I do feel like the maps in here learned from that. (with some exceptions)

ya'll ready for the cursed onelines and animations to return to portal?

I actually didnt mind the freeze frame bug it looked kinda old school

[arctic grove]

Its funny they patched that honestly, not one that lets the quotes make my ears bleed but it was cool when there just wasn’t dialogue lol

[nocturne cairn]

I liked the peace and quiet considering how bland it all was with the audio

apparently they "remastered" the lines so. hopes for that

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah I forgor about that, we shall see

[nocturne cairn]

flashback 128 here I come

128 breakthough is dead my best friend is 128 conquest now

128 flashback isnt long for this world ;_;

[next onyx]

Honestly the best medium hey can do is 80p matches.

Increase the count but still keep it reasonable.

[nocturne cairn]

nah Wayganba theres no fixing the issue. theres nothing wrong with 128 players

nobody playing breakthough 128 regularly wanted it to go away

its the second most populated game mode in my experience

this community is fractured. people dont want the same things

[arctic grove]

After all to be fair it was flagship

[nocturne cairn]

exactly. breakthough is more or less what the hype trailer was all about. 128 player breakthough

[arctic grove]

However I think 64bt will not only help with still being able to know whats going on around you it’ll also help with more servers

[nocturne cairn]

128 flashback conquest is BANGIN by the way

playing BC2 maps with a full match is blissful

[elder patrol]

Or just make it a separate mode

[nocturne cairn]

64 is already in the game though. you can pick it

nobody plays it. sometimes I cant even matchmake into it on west coast us

[arctic grove]

Yea I know but I presume those who play 128 BT, assuming theyll keep playing at all will make more 64bt sessions

[nocturne cairn]

their either going to try another mode or quit but its still a refugee crisis

[arctic grove]

True lol

[elder patrol]

I just dont get why they keep kicking the community in the nuts harder and harder each time

[nocturne cairn]

I cry for my people

its because there isnt a healthy relationship between the management ---> developers ---> players

[smoky plank]

everything is gonna hinge on S1s reception

[nocturne cairn]

and content creators are maniacs. honestly I dont know how game coverage got so hyperbole

coming from a content creator btw

what is S1 even supposed to be anymore?

[smoky plank]

Either the beginning or the end lol

[nocturne cairn]

there arent even missions or achievements in this game other than literally 1 a week

[smoky plank]

if they are going for soft relaunch - they would hold back content to make the drop massive
If not then

[arctic grove]

Guns maps and specialists although there isn’t really much telling on how much a single season has

[nocturne cairn]

are they gonna softly refund my season 1 edition buy?

I was expecting SOMTHING. anything

[arctic grove]

But those 3 are pretty much guaranteed unless dice screwed up lol

[nocturne cairn]

putting the specialists behind a paywall is the lurking bomb we havent been hit by yet you just wait

I was a dongus and bought the special edition but for everyone else?

its gonna piss people off bad

[elder patrol]

I too was "dongus" and bought the gold edition

[nocturne cairn]

I legitimately love this series. been playing it my whole life

[smoky plank]

I made a bet when S1 was delayed that they were gonna nearly cut all content drops until season one gets revamped, which so far I have been mostly correct - even to the point of stretching weeky's content (camo set reduced to gun at a time)

[nocturne cairn]

its hard to see the cooperate flailing going on. my soul hurts

[smoky plank]

and if that was the case, it was gonna get real dark until S1 started

[nocturne cairn]

the longer they wait while being cagey and private about the future of the game the worse pr is gonna be.

we shouldnt have to theory craft about this stuff while another company takes over development. its just nerve wracking

[arctic grove]

Yeah, I agree with ya

[smoky plank]

sometimes when the PR is already so bad, its almost better to go completely dark and show up with something big

[arctic grove]

Which is where I hear people suggest it could pull a no mans sky. Of course that’s the most preferable route but no clue what’ll happen till it does

[nocturne cairn]

they aren't doing that though. EA cant help showing how much they resent this series every time they do a public event. And the devs are just putting hot takes in patch notes about game flow to justify their balance decisions. its just bizarre.

Wheres the innovation wheres the childlike exitement

[smoky plank]

I've had times at my job where something goes haywire and we just put nose to grindstone without giving much context to pump something out massive and kind of unexpected so as to keep a client happy

[edgy oriole]

we need a new rpg in the game. the m5 doesnt do shit

[nocturne cairn]

yah, I want to beleive that but the hostility between the community and the developers that has been simmering for YEARS makes me think the love is scarred and too pushed away for that kind of miracle to occur. Too much red tape.

Hope im wrong

[delicate vale]

The game is fun now?

[smoky plank]

The community is still there - it just not in places that have turned into a shit show - like BF2042 reddit for example

[nocturne cairn]

yeah its fun, way more stable

[arctic grove]

Its definitely a lot more stable so yes. If you want content tho, next months update

[nocturne cairn]

I dont see bugs for multiple games in a row at times

[delicate vale]

I’ve gotten every weekly collectible so far

[nocturne cairn]

oh than why are you asking how the games doign lol

[arctic grove]

Yeah same I don’t think ive missed a single one

[fossil trench]

Is there no zeroing in BF2042?

[nocturne cairn]

you've been playing

[delicate vale]

I’m tryna see if people are still crying in here 6 months later

[arctic grove]

Every day

[nocturne cairn]

We're crying right now because the devs are removing 128 player breakthough

its "too chaotic" and they want "individuals to make a difference"

[smoky plank]

yeah and those people who are crying everyday will never be happy lol

[delicate vale]

Lol good, it’ll funnel more people into 64 player

[fossil trench]

We need a S1 bingo card

[arctic grove]

To be fair though im not gonna be one to associate any negativity with crying, a lot is general feedback but there is some trolling and what not

[nocturne cairn]

I try to be real and earnest with my complaints

[delicate vale]

I realized a week into the release that EA had fucked me, but wtvr man, gotta move on, least they updating it

Also, I’ll just never buy an EA game again lol

Can’t just cry about it over and over

[nocturne cairn]

Right we've probably all been there before

EA games is voted one of the worst liked companies on the planet

not even joking. they are up there with bank of america

[arctic grove]

That’s pretty much all that can be done unless you met the refund criteria, but me with 100hrs in, nah no going back

[nocturne cairn]

I've had fun with this game but its kindof insulting when I can see there are many ways to keep things fresh in this release and they're basically doing the bare minimum

its honestly a STRONG battlefield release compared to bf5

that game wasnt even feature complete when it came out

[arctic grove]

Personally though, my feedbacks are just specialist skins with masked milsim look, more guns, more maps. I really don’t mind anything else about this game

[nocturne cairn]

we had community servers, scripting tools and new scale in games for 2042

[smoky plank]

yeah, Facebook took the crown last year away from ATT, Comcast, United Airlines, and EA

[nocturne cairn]

my hot take is that the release was actually pretty good. The crippling basic functionality bugs were not ok though. not excusing that or the insane takes like "all chat is bad for communities" or "voip isnt important in a game about teamwork"

thats all on the devs and publishers tho

[arctic grove]

Thats how i feel about it too

[nocturne cairn]

game stil fun

[smoky plank]

my take is they were rushed to put something out by a deadline that should've been pushed back due to COVID

[nocturne cairn]

but the people making it? I dont trust them. i dont even think they play games

[arctic grove]

Yeah, its still fun, and if we can differentiate and look less like obvious clones, with more maps and guns, then hell, for me the games a 7+

[nocturne cairn]

Vehicle customization was in day 1! almost forgot about that

took almost 2 years for that to crawl its way into bf5

[smoky plank]

Upper management were like "put it out now" while devs were like "wait no, its not quite there"

[fallen yarrow]

To be fair, you can't really compare the level of vehicle customization between 2042 and BFV

[nocturne cairn]

its so much worse than than that Darrel. that is a innocent and kind portrayal of the dev cycle of this game

[fallen yarrow]

You must have missed the part where all the devs were tweeting stuff like the game is finished and just last minute polishing left back in October

[next onyx]

Bf5 enjoyed a nice stable release.

[nocturne cairn]

WAHT

[smoky plank]

we wouldn't really know - Devs left in droves, Upper management usually doesn't know the details in dev teams
They just push Ideas onto them when we are like wait, no. thats not really feasible

[nocturne cairn]

Bf5 was not stable. It was the least feature complete bf game ever released

granted the support for it grew to be strong

[smoky plank]

Guarantee that was some PR move when in reality teams were probably shitting themselves

[nocturne cairn]

but for almost a year and half it didnt even have basic things that are in every other game

[nocturne cairn]

yeah see thats what im talking about "games going great" "ahead of schedule"

[fallen yarrow]

I started playing BFV a few months after launch, and it was WAY better than 2042 at around the same time period after launch

[smoky plank]

investors to think about

[nocturne cairn]

this was a multilevel failure of communication and I get the vibes that within the whole company and publisher they are lying to each other about technical milestones and problems.

[silver lantern]

Fuck this game
Who wants a blurry few second video of MW 2022

[nocturne cairn]

hay now i still like BF

[arctic grove]

Watch MW2 disappoint yall lmao

[silver lantern]

All I can say
It pretty much looks like mw19

[nocturne cairn]

eh, its probably gonna be ok. Activision lost SO MUCH MONEY on vangard compared to their estimates

they have to pull a win to get the fake stonk money

[arctic grove]

Well im curious although theres no telling what youll actually send me

But id like to see it

[nocturne cairn]

mw2019 is still a healthy community

[smoky plank]

Thats what I assume. I also work at a big software company, and any kind of communication failure can be disastrous, and happens a lot more than you would like

[silver lantern]

Ok
Do I like
dm
Or post it in other games chat

[arctic grove]

If you can post it there ye preferably

[nocturne cairn]

i think mw222 will do fine. theres probably a unrelated server spot you could put it in

its an arena shooter. frankly i dont see it as a true bf competitor

[arctic grove]

I liked MW19 just not its camping problem mounting caused, that’s about it though. That and warzone being forced to be installed to play it, something i don’t give any damns about

[nocturne cairn]

lol mounting. I cant think of a time I ever died and thought "I would have lived if I or they werent mounted"

[silver lantern]

They finally gave the mp5 proper inspect anims

[nocturne cairn]

oh cool

[echo shale]

wait

the 64 player thing is real?

[nocturne cairn]

yeah they're cutting 128 player breakthough due to hot takes on gameflow in the bf series and "wanting to make individual soldiers matter"

its on twitter

[echo shale]

oh well

[nocturne cairn]

rip in self respect DICE

[echo shale]

this isnt dice anymore yk

[nocturne cairn]

fair enough. (whoever is employed at dice)

[echo shale]

OG dice left, these are new guys trying to pickup

[nocturne cairn]

if you want to get technical I beleive Ripple Effect is currently the studio patching and maintaining this game

*post launch support

[echo shale]

is there any game EA that picked off in the last few years? except Apex which is battle royal titanfalless

[nocturne cairn]

Respawn is taking over management of the series and development

[echo shale]

EA when something goes south , let respawn handle it

[nocturne cairn]

DICE itself is probably just grinding on things

Thats what rich illiterate uneducated managers always do. Lump the problems on the most talented people you have until they lose it with too many projects

I have some faith. Respawn has been an extremely consistent company over the years.

[echo shale]

what?

[nocturne cairn]

Respawn entertainment

[echo shale]

respawn get DDOS more than GTA streamers

[nocturne cairn]

what are you even talking about?

[echo shale]

their servers and games

[nocturne cairn]

Im talking about game development.

[echo shale]

they can optimize and do stuff

[nocturne cairn]

they consistantly make feature complete games that run well and arent very buggy in comparison to their peers

so they are way more qualified than DICE proper at this point

[echo shale]

but i think EA really needs to go to UE instead of frostbite

[nocturne cairn]

engine change wont change the work environment

[echo shale]

frostbite is some kinda of modified UE
but the people that made Frostbite left

[nocturne cairn]

its all C++ anyways

[echo shale]

it still matters alot

[nocturne cairn]

Look.

[echo shale]

imagine this

[nocturne cairn]

Im not going to argue about this further than this but I have actually been programming and working with game engines on my own for the last few years in C++ and C# as well as unity and unreal. I got to peek at some Decima engine stuff once.

engines are important. Work environment is more important

I personally like Unreal. its my engine of choice

[echo shale]

You are new guys , been doing game devs and just finished college
and you get a new job request from EA and you go there and find yourself handling the next battlefield title with an Engine you never saw before and sub bar architecture needing to work with other team that is 3000 miles away

handled very well

[nocturne cairn]

im not arguing with you anymore. My logical argument is finished and I have nothing else to say

and I can say that because It doesn't take a detective to discern this stuff. its common sense

[echo shale]

yeah
but even with perfect work environment you still need people with skill and familiarity

[nocturne cairn]

Lets talk about Bethesda softworks then

[echo shale]

[arctic grove]

Fallout 76 was a disaster but after a couple of years its decent at best

[nocturne cairn]

I'm telling you. Think about my point. Engine does not a game make

[echo shale]

i know

[nocturne cairn]

Fallout 76 is not decent and still unplayable

[arctic grove]

Core gameplay mechanics do make an engine

[echo shale]

i was talking about future games

[nocturne cairn]

No they dont. Programmers make that stuff

[arctic grove]

we could be in Unreal engine and the game would still be bad because of the core mechanics.

[nocturne cairn]

the engine doesnt do anything by itself

[echo shale]

you are insulting the new LOD future of UE5

[nocturne cairn]

Unreal 5 is promising. Its literally my engine of choice

and its got a horrendous poorly documented workflow for many aspects of development

lyra. the "best practices" game that they published has a ton of problems that will be plaguing indie games based on it fo years to come

still at the end of the day developer problems. not c++ not blueprints not unreal engine

they chose to make a third person camera the origination point for a fps hitscan projectile

that flaw causes things like headglitching on corners and other hitreg problems

"best practices"

[echo shale]

isnt the purpose of these is to easy game dev? not replicate it?

[nocturne cairn]

its to show the "best practices" in gamedev for inexperienced users

but the irony is its reinforcing bad practices that have plagued the industry for years.

[echo shale]

hmm like?

[nocturne cairn]

I just f*king explained it

[echo shale]

i meant like an in depth example

[nocturne cairn]

I literally gave an exact in engine use case example of a problem

there is nothing more I can do but tell you to boot it up and test to see if you can shoot though walls (you can)

I think you just have a problem with me tbh

[echo shale]

i remember when popcap did this and told people that their aiming was off

[nocturne cairn]

I wasnt pretending to be a aspiring game dev. I actually give a crap

we understand eachother then, exactly. People problems

I remember popcap games. what happened to them

[echo shale]

no iam just curious

[nocturne cairn]

fair enough. I can misjudge

[echo shale]

EA

[nocturne cairn]

ohhhh

[echo shale]

simply EA happened to them

[nocturne cairn]

the curse

[echo shale]

they made a new shooter
that have 20 characters?

the older one had 110, they said for balancing but it ended up worse

[nocturne cairn]

oh man, thats just so much

what in the world. how many players per game

is it basically another overwatch clone?

[echo shale]

going from 110 character to 20 with very low map numbers , alot of glitches and removing damage drop off from a shooter for spread, which is good until they gave one side perfect aiming with no recoil

its 12v12

it was very chaotic fun ,

[echo shale]

pretty much , they turned it into overwatch clone

[nocturne cairn]

huh, well, into the pile it goes

[echo shale]

they promised 2 years of updates

and stopped after 1 , then a year later they ported it to switch and disappeared, pretty much debunked

people from popcap worked on BF2042 too

[arctic grove]

[waxen hinge]

Whom ever ORBS87 is....cry :]

[edgy oriole]

[waxen hinge]

He was mad cuz i took AA wildcat. Found a decent spot in the back and took out every heli i saw ._.

[edgy oriole]

hmm sounds like you were not taking out every heli you saw if someone was mad.

i also have a PSA

pbx is trash

but its still my fav smg.

[next onyx]

It's a really mid gun.

It can work super well or not.

[edgy oriole]

i must sleep now so i just had my last match of 128 BT on my fav map. manifest

https://tenor.com/view/african-coffin-dance-farewell-funeral-tradition-gif-17011627

you were the best 128 you were the best

[nocturne cairn]

@placid echoHey Recon. I was thinking about your game mode. Since you have this moment of spotlight with the featured game have you thought about pitching the return of score/xp rewards for long shots to the devs? Your mode is a great use case for rewarding skillful play feedback experiences in game that were overlooked. There was nothing like seeing that bonus score add on in (ex. longshot) the other battlefield titles. No clue if you have access to anyone that could run with this but, hey, food for thought.

[placid echo]

Sadly I don't think I have that kinda 'line' to the development team but I am sure they got a lot of feedback about this. And my game mode wasn't exactly the main cause for that, but I assume it caused a spark for it to be talked about again.

[nocturne cairn]

its a great example. Its sure been on my mind. along with no vehicle assists being in the game. xD

random question, does anyone know if all chat works in free for all modes? or are we cursed to play alone

or rather if team chat is even visible

[placid echo]

I believe it works? I think I saw someone use it in one of my matches

[nocturne cairn]

thx, these be hard times

[jolly island]

is the new season out yet?

[nocturne cairn]

no the only official news is the 4.1 patch notes

4.0 patch notes are HUGE if you havent checked them out

[jolly island]

so no new maps or operators?

[nocturne cairn]

no

[rain quest]

Early June

[hot bronze]

they confirmed early june for season one

[rain quest]

Is season 1

[nocturne cairn]

is there a real date though

[jolly island]

ok back to hibernation

[nocturne cairn]

until they are posting that on twitter I dont know what to think anymore

[rain quest]

No but early June is at least before 15 th

[golden socket]

nope they just said early june

[nocturne cairn]

oh ok well fingers crossed. *sighs

[rain quest]

Indeed

[nocturne cairn]

If I dont meet a schedule I lose my job

[solar minnow]

I hope they bring back 128 player.

[rain quest]

?

[solar minnow]

To breakthrough

[jolly island]

what's everyone playing till June?

[hot bronze]

I would guess they are at code cut off at this point and are only bug finding and testing season one.

[nocturne cairn]

It will likely return since removing it is infuriating people

[rain quest]

Some maps still are

[solar minnow]

I know the EA forums blew up

[rain quest]

3 maps are still 128 player breakthrough to my understanding

[nocturne cairn]

there is no code cut off point in a product so wrecked

[solar minnow]

No it’s 64 player on 128 player map.

[inland creek]

well breakthrough 128 is going and so am i

[solar minnow]

128 player breakthrough is completely gone

No joke

[inland creek]

i want a refund now lol

[hot bronze]

but there is for builds. there has to be. its a common thing in all game companies

[rain quest]

You right miss read that

[inland creek]

only mode i played

[solar minnow]

GG DICE

[rain quest]

Conquest is still 128

[nocturne cairn]

oh yeah, i get you. im just being salty. sure on a per patch basis

[solar minnow]

Yeah but it’s not the same

[inland creek]

its not as fun tho

[hot bronze]

hmm 128 BT wasnt my thing but too each their own

[nocturne cairn]

they also do server and client updates.

[rain quest]

Meh it is in its way

[nocturne cairn]

so fun fact they can still work on things without a title update

they just havent been...

[rain quest]

Breakthrough more chaotic conquest still enjoyable thou,

[solar minnow]

They are going to lose 30% of their player base after this.

[nocturne cairn]

just the weekly rotations

[hot bronze]

we will see I guess

[rain quest]

That’s like 20 players so o well

[solar minnow]

Someone said that in the EA forums lol

[nocturne cairn]

lol have some respect for the dead

we're still playing

[solar tinsel]

I do kind of find it a little funny how within a few days of each other, DICE is removing BT128, but then also made Flashback Conquest 128 players with maps designed for 64 players 😆

I will still confess though, that I do think Conquest is better suited 128 players overall though

[rain quest]

I still play I enjoy the game a lot personally

[hot bronze]

Personally I think this will be a over all good update

[solar tinsel]

I've been having more fun recently thanks to FB Conquest specifically

[waxen hinge]

It wont be for me until condor/hind are nerfed

[nocturne cairn]

any update is a good update honestly

[waxen hinge]

Thats my biggest gripe

[nocturne cairn]

why nerf the bus? people need to get around

[solar minnow]

At the cost of content that’s the main selling point. I’m not sure.

[rain quest]

I tell you I’ve not had a recon drone blow my tank up in awhile, has that been fixed

[hot bronze]

idk I see 128bt the most complained about

[solar tinsel]

There might be a minor (yet that might be all it needs) inadvertent nerf by adding the MAV to the Transport category. With one more option, you might see an occasional MAV ***instead ***of a Condor/Hind

[solar minnow]

A lot of people actually like it.

[rain quest]

So they had the option to play 64

[hot bronze]

you must be lucky bc they havent fixed that to my knowledge

[rain quest]

Why not leave it

[solar tinsel]

I imagine population fragmentation is becoming an issue

[solar minnow]

Cause the player base is too low.

[rain quest]

O lol those pesky fuckers

[hot bronze]

agreed IDK why they needed to kill it really

[nocturne cairn]

Population fragmentation is BF's biggest issue

[rain quest]

That’s true

[nocturne cairn]

for a long time now too

[solar tinsel]

Still, I think DICE equally could have just really put a few more effort into rebalancing BT128 maps a bit and gone: CQ128 + BT128 like the old days

[hot bronze]

ya thats probably it. consolidate players so there is less AI filler

[solar tinsel]

In my opinion I'd have love to have seen AoW be: CQ128 + BT128 + Flashback CQ (64)

[nocturne cairn]

Who gives a crap about balance. everything they developed for years is fragmented

theres a lot of content that could be played here. a lot of people dont even know most of the maps and modes even exist

some people think theres only the 2042 content. Not even kidding

[solar tinsel]

It blows my mind DICE didn't integrate the portal content into AoW more. Like, add assignments to earn some legacy weapons into AoW

Attachment progressions for the Portal weapons, cosmetics for them, etc.

[nocturne cairn]

who knows. Portal is a really strong product

they really.. just wasted its hype completely muzzling the community over xp and progression

[solar tinsel]

The content is literally there, and it's not unrealistic you'd see a decades old weapon on a battlefield or something, so they could have still kept some weapons in

[solar tinsel]

Yeah and thats an issue too

[nocturne cairn]

who cares if some kids unlock some things.

the other players are the ones hurting now

[solar tinsel]

Thats actually why I like Flashback CQ, because FINALLY we were able to earn progression with 2042 gear while playing the legacy maps - it took so long for that to even happen

[nocturne cairn]

I cant agree enough

[solar tinsel]

If someone made Flashback Conquest prior as a custom mode, it wouldnt earn XP AT ALL

[nocturne cairn]

its like having a half assed classics dlc hit AoW

[solar tinsel]

I do kind of view it as that haha

[nocturne cairn]

ill take it

[solar tinsel]

Battlefield 2042: "The Old Maps Were Better" (DLC0)

[nocturne cairn]

I actually like the new maps more than most. but the old maps are pretty wonderful

[solar tinsel]

I liked them at first glance because it reminded me of BF2 maps, but I did realize that those types of maps don't hold up as well in a modern shooter. It worked in BF2 because weapon spread was insane and you couldn't be as accurate at distance

[nocturne cairn]

that village on caspian border? Home

[solar tinsel]

AND even BF2 had maps like Karkand, Sharqi, with infantry/ground combat focused

In 2042, there is less curation. Every map has every vehicle class even if it doesn't really need it

[nocturne cairn]

yeah, theres no cqc to speak of unless your playing...... 128 player breakthough

lol

*on manifest

[solar tinsel]

ha right, and even then, it still is forcing that CQC experience on a map that truly isn't meant for it. Like Breakway ain't getting you CQC
yeah on Manifest haha

[nocturne cairn]

or your on manifest

[arctic grove]

Bro just play 128 Infantry

we had that last week

or was that 32v32 i cant remember.

[nocturne cairn]

there was like 12-25 people in there

[solar tinsel]

Yeah..... those 2042 maps do not hold up as well for infantry only.

[nocturne cairn]

it was 32v32

[arctic grove]

facts... but they do hold up in BT 128

[forest snow]

never understood the whole i wanna play battlefield but infantry only

[nocturne cairn]

I like all the stuff

[solar tinsel]

I won't disagree. I actually preferred the 128 BT mode to 64, but I also mostly play CQ

[arctic grove]

if only they made a bt mode with infantry only

and light vehicles only

[solar tinsel]

They just need some infantry centric maps. This is how BF has historically always provided that experience and variety

[arctic grove]

Wait... Portal exists for that.

[nocturne cairn]

thats called rush ma dude

[solar tinsel]

@arctic grove and then you can't get full progression 😆

[nocturne cairn]

if only they had a 128 player rush with like 4-6 mcoms

[forest snow]

battlefield is always about combined arms well was.

[nocturne cairn]

oh man that would be a real sweet front line

[arctic grove]

rush is counter strike but with a timer and respawns allowed

[nocturne cairn]

wat

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah big brain move from dice for cutting xp

[nocturne cairn]

its so much worse than that

[arctic grove]

for like 2 or 3 months we got no xp

[nocturne cairn]

the cut xp but more importantly they capped progression to 15 ranks in any of your weapons or characters

[solar tinsel]

Honestly, Conquest alone could hold the answer if DICE looked back in their past a bit more. Conquest Assault maps (like Karkand) offered that "rush type experience" without losing Conquest outright

[nocturne cairn]

the xp doesnt friggin matter. the fact that new players cant unlock accessories is just a huge fun killer

[solar tinsel]

exactly

[nocturne cairn]

you HAVE to grind AoW

[solar tinsel]

or a featured mode only

[forest snow]

agreed, conquest assault and titan mode we need, dont bother with breakthrough of god knows what else is coming

[nocturne cairn]

or thankfully now the featured game modes

[arctic grove]

Grind like a f2p game

[nocturne cairn]

featured mode mind

[solar tinsel]

Titan Mode was so ahead of its time

[forest snow]

carrier assault was a good idea just i dont think most players i played with understood what was going on

[nocturne cairn]

only if you're unproductive. Ive unlocked like virtually everything within 50-100hrs without even trying very hard

[solar tinsel]

But that's the thing: BF has always scratched the infantry itch not by relying on a special mode, but just adding map variety. The closest thing we have is Manifest but even thats not the same

[solar tinsel]

Yeah, I had a good time with it though! Part of the fun was launching UP to the titan though which obviously we didnt get

[nocturne cairn]

imagine how cool it would be if AoW rotated out different map layouts even. the smallest of variations would help. people would fight on new places on the map.

[arctic grove]

Same and bug exploits during early access and launch.