battlefield-2042

[plucky pebble]

idc about destruction would be nice if the map had more buildings tho not like a whole 1km of like a shooting range lmao

[shrewd summit]

Okay, I can see that, but for the small buildings that do exist, I still think the destruction is disappointing.

[velvet sand]

That's fine, and in no way really counters the argument. There was a lot more destructibility in terms of set pieces etc. Which I guess isn't possible with the higher playercounts given that CPU bandwidth is needed for that and not available for big set-piece destruction outside of a few things like the missile blowing up.

[warped pagoda]

Does 2042 have the same level of destruction as bfv or its worse?

[desert elbow]

It functions almost identically to bf4

[fiery shoal]

same QUALITY, not the same QUANTITY

[silk surge]

Worse.

[desert elbow]

Proof?

[warped pagoda]

Damn, thats deep

[plucky pebble]

[sonic stag]

@desert elbow you think destruction on 2042 functions the same as past titles? I find nearly everything in 2042 is indestructible. can you flatten cars, shot out tires, level buildings, etc etc. what damage does the tornado do? does it do any sort of levolution?

[fiery shoal]

i just think thats the accurate way to describe destruction

levolution is scripted destruction events specifically billed for bf4...

people using levolution for general destruction outside of bf4 are just showcasing they dont know what they are talking about...

[desert elbow]

Levolution =/= Dynamic destruction, levolution was epic tho

[velvet sand]

I didn't say it was dynamic destruction. Just that there's less physics-based destruction - dynamic or pre-scripted.

[desert elbow]

You can do all of that in 2042

[desert elbow]

Well that’s true then

[shrewd summit]

That's a good point about the tornado not doing any damage.

[fiery shoal]

cant level buildings? but that was really only prominent in the bad company games wasnt it?

[plucky pebble]

the crane tho

[warped pagoda]

U are right. Testing 2042 for two days and it gave me the arcadey feel and degraded content compared to previous titles thats a decade years old

[desert elbow]

You can level buildings in the portal maps, don’t think so in AOW though

[fiery shoal]

ah, ive only played AOW

[velvet sand]

There are some good ones. Crane and rocket are both nice. The side being pulled off the side of the boat isn't exactly impressive but it is kinda a neat example of ways to make the map more interactive and "dynamic".

[desert elbow]

Ah fair enough, you should try Arica Harbor. You can collapse the whole town

[sonic stag]

you can't do shit in AOW. and comparing 2042 to only bf4 isn't fair. look at destruction in more recent bf games like 1 and 5. 2042 is disappointing on all fronts

[copper fulcrum]

Good thing 2042 is the only Battlefield game worth playing/revisiting

[warped pagoda]

yes

[plucky pebble]

after the rocket is destroyed is pretty fun tho but before is so plain that you cant even get into the point

[plucky pebble]

[copper fulcrum]

Yes

[warped pagoda]

#lieoftheyear

[shrewd summit]

I recall a church in BF1, I forget which map that would display destruction based on damage. Some games if the action was centered around it, the thing would be nearly leveled. If little action, there would be minimal damage. I thought the varying degree of damage and destruction was fascinating and lent to the overall immersion of the game. I don't get that in this title. The damage seems minimal.

[arctic grove]

[velvet sand]

oh man, looking back at some old DICE tweets about destructibility and the lack of infantry only maps pre-launch is uh...not great : |

[arctic grove]

muh damage

[desert elbow]

The building destruction in Battle of the Bulge is identical to BF1’s. Even the church you mentioned @velvet sand is in the map

[shrewd summit]

I didn't know that, thanks.

[desert elbow]

Yeah np, I also remember seeing the church in BF5 and it was amazing how much destruction it had

[sonic stag]

I'm not talking about portal. plus those are from past games. talking about new 2042 product. OBVIOUSLYy past game DESTRUCTION is the SAME when they copied that over... compare anything to 2042 AOW and it is down grade. you can't deny that

[copper fulcrum]

And 1942 had no destruction

[velvet sand]

1942 also released 20 years ago : |

[desert elbow]

It’s not though, compare warehouse destruction from BF4 to Bf2042, there’s now debris and lasting smoke

You can also compare the tiny buildings on Hainian to the ones on Hourglass

[sonic stag]

you can't extrapolate one building with the level of destruction from the past

[desert elbow]

Yeah I can, especially when they’re the most comparable

[copper fulcrum]

I do what I want in this realm

[sonic stag]

look i found the one and only building that can be destroyed in 2042!!!! this game is amazing! best bf ever

[copper fulcrum]

It certainly is no cap, gg no ree'

[plucky pebble]

COPIUM

[desert elbow]

Well how is BF4’s destruction better?

[warped pagoda]

this is called dedication and sheer amount of brain power

[sonic stag]

did I limit comparison to only bf4..... no

[shrewd summit]

I think the lack of destruction and environment variables can be attributed to supporting high player counts. I think they had to make design decisions around the player count.

[plucky pebble]

dont waste it brother you cant change their minds

[copper fulcrum]

Our opinion is the right opinion and just opinion

[arctic magnet]

Start dev next bf

[copper fulcrum]

2042 lives on

[fiery shoal]

dont you guys know, 2042 sucks so absolutely everything about it has to be worse than anything before it.. its only logical

[desert elbow]

Well then elaborate

[arctic magnet]

💩

[desert elbow]

Yeah it’s likely that’s the case

[warped pagoda]

[arctic magnet]

Everything is bad

[copper fulcrum]

Yes every other game is bad

[arctic magnet]

This game is very very bad

[copper fulcrum]

Yes every game that isn't 2042 is very very bad. 2042 is the only good game.

[wide violet]

Yes every game that isn't Runescape is very very bad. Runescape is the only good game.

[arctic magnet]

they can fix bugs and add content. But this game lacks a lot of what is battlefield

[copper fulcrum]

Runescape is actually pretty good ngl

[wide violet]

i know

[copper fulcrum]

I know I see a few mods play it on the side panel

or just one, maybe. idk.

[shrewd summit]

I played ET back in the day, I dare you to tell me how bad it is (It was very bad).

[warped pagoda]

Played runescape half asleep, great game

[shrewd summit]

I think you've pretty much summed it up.

[arctic magnet]

man, even I make better animations

[plucky pebble]

ThEn Be A dEv

[arctic magnet]

Call of duty gameplay in battlefield SUckkks

This game need be deleted

[copper fulcrum]

Good thing that doesn't exist.

[velvet sand]

The power is yours, just smash that uninstall button homie.

[calm bison]

Am I the only when they turn on 2042 they still get the notification that there’s a new weekly skin?

[plucky pebble]

you cant uninstall something that never was installed 😎

[velvet sand]

freakin got'em

[copper fulcrum]

Sometimes I get something completely different. Like a tutorial of some kind

[arctic magnet]

I prefer BFV gameplay is 100% better

Also, the player could stumble when running, lift their feet higher when the water was up to their knees.

battlefield had so many details and so many details that needed polishing that a well made battlefield should be perfected in 2021.

[arctic grove]

I agree with you 2042 could use more animations for an overall more polished experience

[arctic magnet]

but in the end they gave us a game without identity

[warped pagoda]

Bfv is my favourite battlefield but would have been so much better with eastern front before they cut support.

[arctic magnet]

Melee animations in first person is 1000000% better

[arctic grove]

Can’t really understand what you mean by a game without identity honestly but I agree about the melee

[hexed mango]

[loud flower]

The POV should be a player's choice whether or not we do an execution from 1st or 3rd person

[quaint bane]

Hi

[hexed mango]

yo

[quaint bane]

What were you doing

[fossil flax]

Why you still play 2042?

@warped pagoda give us 🇨🇳 vs 🇯🇵 battle of shanghai

[elder patrol]

Give us spaghetti

[sly thunder]

I just want to blow up Houses

In BF2042 too

[hollow parcel]

Sooo, when do we see the specialist feedback loop?

[velvet sand]

That's asked daily here and on the forums (including by me!) and it's answered daily by silence.

[hollow parcel]

''it comes in april''

[velvet sand]

It was supposed to arrive mid-april given the "in a couple of weeks" at the end of the map feedback post (end of march). Don't be sad, that's just how it works out sometimes.

[hollow parcel]

couple of weeks = almost 6 weeks

[velvet sand]

Have faith, fam. They're way ahead of schedule. (yes, I'm just shitposting now)

[wraith sequoia]

Is anyone able to play BF2042 rn?

[radiant prism]

I was just playing most of the afternoon and didn’t have any problems. Might just need to restart

[arctic grove]

i look but ill hop on if its a good skin

[velvet sand]

It's a universal weapon skin this week. Seems easy too, just play Angel.

[vale gale]

i didnt even get missions for this week 🖕

ass fucking game

[tacit sphinx]

they’re still there + will track lol

[calm bison]

It’s a good skin but every time I load into the menus it gives me the notification that it’s available, even after I’ve already got it

[vale gale]

i just wanna get my moneys worth and im getting tf out of here

[velvet sand]

"it'll be fixed in an upcoming update" is all we know about this bug tha still exists.

But you still have the weekly mission and progress will count, even if your client doesn't show it.

[vale gale]

i see thanks

this happened to me in the previous mission for the white universal weapon skin

didnt get that skin

[velvet sand]

You should still get it if you meet the requirements...though hard to keep track of if you have the bug. Your best/only option is probably to contact support and hope they'll grant it to you if you don't actually "earn" it due to the bug.

[tacit sphinx]

https://twitter.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1519714721364123651 yeah you’re able to progress them by just kinda keeping track/going until you get it pop up at the top of the screen

Battlefield Direct Communication (@BattlefieldComm)

Update: we're aware some of you still aren't seeing the Weekly Mission menu in-game.

We plan to resolve this in the next game update.

You can still continue progressing towards the weekly challenges and unlock the reward.

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[wide shore]

Honestly the fleck skin may be the best one in the game so far.

[velvet sand]

Super soaker skin for the sniper is best.

[tacit sphinx]

tbh yeah i really like it

especially as a universal skin

[wide shore]

Universal skins rool

[tacit sphinx]

mmm

[wide shore]

I haven’t been able to get on yet today to unlock it

[copper fulcrum]

I like that consoles don't have the other console's logo

What platform is he playing on? Just controller

[tacit sphinx]

i should have turned the hud off but i was getting a quick picture earlier lol

[wide shore]

Lol. Yeah it’s weird. Idk why it’s not just the PS logo on Xbox and so forth

[tacit sphinx]

a weapon inspect would be cool actually

[wide shore]

Another feature that was added to V that was sweet. Then just forgotten about

[tacit sphinx]

probably some quirk in cross play agreements/a pre emptive thing so they don’t get heat from microsoft/sony

i’d be surprised if they did but still

[wide shore]

Prolly

[velvet sand]

I see you have a squad of Angel, doing it again.

[copper fulcrum]

I only see Inspecting weapons being used for YouTube Thumbnails

[tacit sphinx]

pretty much, it’s still nice to have though

[low solar]

Still no date for season one huh?

[uneven palm]

Mp9 is popular

Seen a ton of people with it

[late juniper]

best K30 build?

[wide shore]

Depends. Do you want to be stealthy, or just have 0 recoil? @late juniper

[late juniper]

is one widely known to be better than the other?

[wide shore]

Uhh, not really. But stealthy you’ll be looking at less DPS because of the suppressor. Which isn’t really a huge problem on a gun that’s basically a hose

[late juniper]

it doesn't matter since I can have both in the plus menu right?

[wide shore]

But if you wanna go like, extra stealth, you’d have to use subsonic rounds as well. And then your enemies wouldn’t even know what direction you’re hitting

That’s true, yeah

Overall I think the LWG grip, champion muzzle break, extended drum mag and whichever sight you like best.

Keep in mind that ADS speed on normal red dots should be about the same as irons. But some take longer.

If you want to add the stealth stuff too, I’d go with the PB Heavy Suppressor & subsonic rounds

[late juniper]

any specific grip?

[wide shore]

LWG all the way

[late juniper]

alright cool thanks a lot! 🙂

[wide shore]

Sure. The compensator is up for interpretation. I like the champion because it negates vertical climb. But some people prefer the less horizontal recoil. If it proves to be too much horizontal, try using an arcom

[late juniper]

yeah, the vert vs horz recoil is something I just like to find on my own for certain guns by testing, wish there was a test site for the guns but, they have better things to do

[wide shore]

Could always test in solo

Against bots

[late juniper]

shit I forgot that was a thing lmfao

[fallen yarrow]

@wide shore do the subsonic rounds actually remove the directional hit indicator?

[wide shore]

If paired with a suppressor, yes

I think that’s new to the last update

[fervent grotto]

Wait so, what’s the point of subsonic then?

[wide shore]

Without a suppressor, it’s more quiet, doesn’t produce muzzle flash, and I think the rounds have more velocity.

[fallen yarrow]

Cool, I didnt know that. That's situational, but incredibly strong on some maps that actually have foliage and cover

[wide shore]

Manifest for sure

In and around B

[fallen yarrow]

Exactly. I've gone one 30-40 kill streaks at B

[wide shore]

B rules

[fallen yarrow]

With just the suppressor

[wide shore]

Now they won’t even know where you are completely

[fallen yarrow]

Gives me Pacific storm and Solomon Islands vibes with the M3

[wide shore]

Only downside is there’s no extended mag subsonic rounds

Man, the BFV grease gun was just

[fallen yarrow]

Love hiding in the bushes and shooting them a few times and watching them frantically trying to figure out where they're getting shot from. Though I used the commando carbine more in those situations. Grease gun is one of my top medic weapons in the infantry maps

[copper fulcrum]

No tracers

[wide shore]

That too

[fervent grotto]

That is so mid

[wide shore]

People seem to think you can’t outgun Type2a’s with the Greasey boy

But I did that shit all the time.

[copper fulcrum]

Grease Gun's got higher damage which helps

[fallen yarrow]

Yeah, type 2A is the medic equivalent of a shotgun in terms of effective range. A LOT of the weapons on most of the classes are completely viable in BFV.

Grease gun could 2 tap if you hit one headshot at close range and it's really easy to do since the hipfire on it is pretty good. It's way better for flanking playstyle than a normal head-first into enemies style, but pretty viable either way

[wide shore]

It’s like an SMG Chauchat

[next onyx]

Suomi, Zk 383 on fast bolt and the Thompson can compete quite well against the type 2.

[copper fulcrum]

All I need is a knife

[deep sail]

[cosmic walrus]

does anyone know why I can't hear people in voice chat? they could hear me but I couldn't hear them?

[valid slate]

Am I out of my head? Am I out of my mind?

[wide shore]

I prefer the ZK with the slow rof

[wanton magnet]

Did you turn it on in the settings? For the voice chat? Its off by default. Oh and if you’re on ps5 make sure you’re controller isn’t glowing orange bottom mid.

[white geyser]

If anyone on my squad is AFK, I will yell at someone's ear on voice chat

[wide shore]

Pog

[white geyser]

They gonna announced the Friday night battlefield on any social media update and I better keep reminding them the things we want in 2042 on any social media they have.

[oak crest]

Am I crazy to admit this? I haven’t played the game since I dropped over $100 on the Ultimate Edition back in December. And since PlayStation wouldn’t refund the game on my PS5 I was stuck with it sitting in my library.

Fast forward to today mid May and I decided to re-download it and see what’s doing. I ACTUALLY HAD FUN! I was able to shoot people and hit them. I was able to get kills with vehicles and had a blast! Played 5 matches enjoyed all 5. Game is night and day way way way better from the state it was in last year.

[dull badger]

Nice to see it turned around for you! I think the game is fun too! I'm not sure about every map, but I enjoy most of the games

[white geyser]

Don't disagree on other people's idea, when they notice something is missing in the game. The previous battlefield games they do have switch team option, just go to the squad menu screen on the multiplayer and you'll see on the bottom screen, it said "switch team"

BF 2042 needs to have the switch team option and they better update it, I hate playing with someone who's just gonna AFK and troll on your squad when you can't even kick them out.

[oak crest]

Definitely did. I’m glad I gave it another chance. Totally agree as well about not all maps being the best. Was pleasantly surprised to see the scoreboard and VOIP.

2042 has a good foundation. Now they just need to fill it with content, squash bugs, and continue to listen to feedback from the community. 🤞🏻

[dusky blade]

Fully unrelated to everything but oh man MW2 2022 will be so bad

[dry compass]

how do u screen shot in BF2042

[next onyx]

Slow ZK feel kinda comfy I will admit but since it's a submachine gun it doesn't have the greatest of range.

[mossy badge]

we haven't even seen anything of it ?

[next onyx]

Not range range but literal damage range.

Dude calling a game bad when there's nothing of it to be seen lol.

[wide shore]

I suppose. I just like slower firing guns

[mossy badge]

maybe he has seen it

[wide shore]

Unless it’s the MG42

[next onyx]

Chauchat or bren would be your go to.

[wide shore]

Bingooo

I love the Bren. Didn’t use the Chauchat much in V but I used the shit out of it in BF1

Y’all think I’m crazy for liking the Type 97

[topaz field]

OMGGGG all the haters on reddit trying to censor Sundance 🤣😭

[arctic grove]

Why????? what the hell is going on?

[mossy badge]

a thing that is made for playing and if you dont enjoy it forget about it move on play something else but instead of playing people spending more time spreading hate towards a video games

[arctic grove]

BRUH

thats just reddit everyday

[arctic grove]

Ok that new camo looks better than I thought, lmao

[tame cobalt]

Fortnite

The next battlefield should be inspired by among us

[silk surge]

Angel is sus

[tame cobalt]

When the imposter is sad sometimes! 😳

I think the next specialist should be morbius

He can turn into a bat and fly around the map

And for his passive he has super hearing that makes your audio 10x louder

This server has good emojis

[tall finch]

discuss this in #battlefield-legacy-titles pls

[wide shore]

Uhhh, okay minimod

[tame cobalt]

Lol

[tame cobalt]

wat happned in update 4.0

[simple merlin]

Bruh where is the news for the Bug fix update before season 1

[tame vine]

O shi yeah, didn't they say there would be a may update?

[grizzled whale]

yes

[next onyx]

Apparently so but it seems they've just been radio silent like they did with the April update.

[topaz field]

she's too overpowered darn cry babies i swear. I dont mind if Dice give her wingsuit a cool down just so people can hush. She's designed to flank vehicles... She's a concept from BF2142

[stone cradle]

May update means end of May/start of June

Usual strategy for the devs, when they mean a month, its usually either the very end of it, or the very start of it.

[vale pier]

I just wonder why they still pay community managers if they are silent all the time.

[topaz field]

good stuff

[grizzled whale]

they arent

[vale pier]

Guess we're not completely in the dark about upcoming updates, season 1 and the specialist feedback that should have happened by now.

[grizzled whale]

they cant put out info they dont have

[vale pier]

again why are they paying them if the do nothing?

Sounds like an easy job to me, where do I sign up?

[grizzled whale]

you really dont seem to know what their job is

[vale pier]

Definitely isn't managing a community

[grizzled whale]

yeah it is

and they do that

They answer questions, reply to bug reports, give out updates where they can, etc.

[vale pier]

Replying to someone on twitter every few days. community managed ✅

[grizzled whale]

again you really have no clue what they do

[vale pier]

maybe I don't, maybe it's because they do nothing of significance

[grizzled whale]

if you dont know what you are talking about, better not speak at all

[vale pier]

OH, so that's why they are silent. Thanks dude

[grizzled whale]

you really are a special kind of stupid

[vale pier]

Lets not start insulting. Thanks

[grizzled whale]

what have you been doing this whole time

insulting people who are simply doing their jobs

[vale pier]

wrong

It's not insulting someone to say they do a bad job if they do a bad job. Maybe they should take that and do better 🤷‍♂️

[uncut bay]

you literally don't have the slightest clue what their job is, i don't think you're in a position to say they're doing it poorly

[grizzled whale]

they dont do a bad job, you simply dont know what they do

and are making baseless claims and accusations based upon your lack of information

[vale pier]

Guess we just have a difference of opinions. No worries. Maybe one day we'll actually get some information about the future of 2042. Maybe the community managers are just too busy.

[grizzled whale]

its not a matter of opinion, its facts

they are doing their job as they are supposed to

[vale pier]

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree

[grizzled whale]

disagreeing with a fact doesnt make it any less of a fact

just makes whoever does it look stupiid

[shy latch]

is it me or the weekly missions are too easy to unlock?

[uncut bay]

they are too easy

would be nice to have daily as well as weekly missions, though only awarding skins for the weeklies

it's a cool incentive to play the game, but i usually get it done in half an hour

[topaz field]

🤣

[grizzled whale]

neither the skins nor xp are really worth it

the only skin thats better than the T1 is the purple SWS skin

[fast pulsar]

https://youtu.be/QroXwZIRG3M?t=22

Which weapon is that? And what scope?

[uncut bay]

AC-42 with the big suppressor, ghost something optic iirc

[shy latch]

yeah that wouldn't be a bad idea, they could either increase the actual mission difficulty (hopefully without introducing melee or takedown) or make simple daily tasks to achieve the final reward

[fossil niche]

Guys anyone here plays 2042 on last gen?? I couldn’t find lobbies in my country so I would like to join one of you guys. If you’re from EU or Singapore please let me know.

[tepid agate]

Works well for me 😅 log on once a week, get the skin then onto another game lol

[fast pulsar]

Nice thanks

[dusty holly]

Same, the problem is with last gen, assuming there are more people on next gen or pc, dice needs to fix this

Maybe even make the game cross-gen playable

[flat tusk]

Won’t work with last gen it’s almost 10 year old hardware and is severely outdated lol would be a huge waste of resources, time and money

[fossil niche]

Server browser can help.

[tacit sphinx]

there is lol

you go to squad and players in the pause menu, find the player, click report

[ionic coyote]

lol you do know you are arguin with employees right, they know what they are doing. they took everyones moneys and called it a day. no point in arguing or complaining

[next onyx]

Pp29 best assault rifle.

Mobility of a submachine gun, More ammo than a drum mag assault rifle and same range as the LCMG with subsonic.

[royal swan]

The fire rate ain't its best tho

[calm bison]

R E C O I L

[fast pulsar]

Hey Dice how comes that Condors hunting jets and bring them down easily?

[woeful remnant]

transport air vehicles literally can chase a nightbird and take it down in seconds lol

[quasi mortar]

Anyone trophy/achievement hunting? I need to know an easy way to Tier 1 any vehicle, any tips? And does levelling the soflam in a vehicle give both the soflam and vehicle progress?

[fast pulsar]

Im talking about a jet

secondary weapons, the MGs, can bring a jet down within seconds

[next onyx]

What recoil?

[next onyx]

Yeah true. Fire rate isn't the best but for an assault rifle and with its damage range it's fine.

[stone cradle]

Wait there's weekly missions?

I thought they were daily due to how stupid easy they are lmao, reinstalled 2042 and completed it pretty quickly, got bored because still no content since launch and deleted it again.

[median tree]

Is the new update good enough to play again?

[cedar turtle]

Depends on why you stopped.

[vale pier]

Only minor updates so far. Pretty sure most people will not have a reason to return atm

[old echo]

not really

[soft swallow]

Yeah for now most of the people didn't return

[olive lake]

Isnt there going to be another update this month? I'd like to hope so

[soft swallow]

There will be an update but I think it will be something like 0.4.1

[cedar turtle]

Pointless and slow

[soft swallow]

It's not pointless but I can agree whit that is slow

[olive lake]

Yeah agreed it slow. All it'd take is one change to the progression to make me play again

I think AI squad members might be a thing soon. I hope at least.

[solar minnow]

5 more days and it will have been a month sense the last update and still no feedback loop.

[shy latch]

april update (aka 4.0) wasn't a minor update, unless with major update you mean new contents

[arctic grove]

People be crying over Borris Turret

[royal swan]

Sad, and tbh it ain't that powerful

[arctic grove]

can someone give me tipps fo leveling fast in 2042?

[vale pier]

If it was meant to be a major update then we are in big trouble. season 1 going to be pathetic if it keeps in line with that thinking

[royal swan]

Be a team player

Ammo, health crates. Spotting

[hot bronze]

and revive, cap points, and repair.

[royal swan]

They should have exp given for placing the specialist placable equipment near other specialist equipment

[shy latch]

as far as I understand this is how it works: inside the game (somewhere on the bottom right corner) you have A.B.C (i.e.: 0.4.0) and those numbers stands for:
A = season update
B = major update
C = minor update

[royal swan]

Like placing a Boris turret near Irish shield

Getting exp as long it is near it

And even a boost in equipment health

[forest snow]

Should be hearing about this months update soon surely ?

Given that rumours are season 1 June

[royal swan]

It should be in june

[hot bronze]

Ya, they last said early summer so that is June/July

[royal swan]

But we haven't gotten the Q&A for the specialist yet

[hot bronze]

so technically not a rumor, just that most resent info.

[forest snow]

Could still be figuring it out

Specialist changes need to come before map changes

[hot bronze]

I would hope we would get some news today on a patch for next week but we might have to wait another week

[royal swan]

At least this game is getting some attention from the devs.

[forest snow]

Then the store will go live with bundles when season 1 starts

[hot bronze]

I disagree I think a bigger issue is the maps as we already see the older maps are fun to play even with the specialist as they are. the new maps are just poorly designed.

Though I do want a rework on specialist.

[shy latch]

[royal swan]

Want? I need the specialist rework

We need it

[hot bronze]

agreed lol

[forest snow]

Season 2 either way will be huge with the map changes specialist changes and new content new season

[royal swan]

We are getting 4 confirmed seasons

[forest snow]

Though most people will run away to new year new call of duty

[royal swan]

Call of duty is a sad story

A franchise that the devs don't care enough about

[gusty jasper]

As they're releasing a new title

[hot bronze]

Thats too say ppl wont just play both.

[forest snow]

Not paid that franchise any attention for years only realised the last one went back to ww2 couple month ago

[royal swan]

And forgetting the few month old one

Literally hasn't been a year and it is lacking care from devs

[dim mural]

I'm not sure which game you are talking about. 😄

[topaz field]

Lol people bash Dice but they let COD get away with murder each year the same thing

[hot bronze]

thats bc COD comes in two forms. Innovated but Something no one wants or the same old COD.

[royal swan]

The vanguard

[topaz field]

Super trash

[forest snow]

Only game looking forward to now is battlefield in 2024 and arma 4

[hot bronze]

Same thing that happen with bf2042. They tried to remake it in a way that no one wanted

[dim mural]

There's a ton of games that are lacking dev support right now. I thought COD just had major updates to Warzone?

[topaz field]

2042 is a step in the right direction with some tweaks of specialist

[royal swan]

Warzone is like the spoiled baby that the parents care to much and forgets the other kids

[hot bronze]

you are right Warezone has been getting alot of support.

[topaz field]

Give specialist generic skins people will come back

Warzone is a cash grab

[forest snow]

Dam just giving us the AI skins to use will help!

[topaz field]

I wouldn't support a COD game

[dim mural]

My son plays a lot of Warzone and Apex lately. We kinda bounced of the new Halo season and the 2042 update.

[hot bronze]

I agree to a point that I think ppl wouldnt have been so mad if we got the normal solder feel we have always had but with specialist gadgets.

[mental delta]

They need to create classes put of specialists

[forest snow]

Fact everyone can have AT rockets and Stingers is a fundamental flaw

[mental delta]

Like ranking each specialists I'm a specific class so we could feel a bot of battlefield mechanics in this game

[royal swan]

That's a need that will never come to this game

[mental delta]

Also, when will they release the map rework ?

[forest snow]

S2

[royal swan]

Season 1

[mental delta]

Idk why they don't do it because it looks so simple tbh

[royal swan]

Hold up, they said season 2

[mental delta]

You kidding me lol

[forest snow]

I’m sure they did

[royal swan]

You sure. One sec let me check

[mental delta]

Season 1 should arrive in less than 1.5 months but we still don't have any infos about it what a shame

[forest snow]

It’s allocating people to do do with many working on new content bug fixes etc just adding the the list of things with no new staff

[solid imp]

business as usual at any company in the US 😂

[mental delta]

We still don't get new content and map rework however

[hot bronze]

So IMO if they wanted to do specialists, they would have the normal classes they always have then specialists in each class. You would play as normal solders and be able to unlock the specialist skin at higher levels. Would even be "lore" friendly as they could have each of the specialist be who is training the troops back on the ship

[forest snow]

Yea I suspect with the game not exactly setting the gaming world on fire EA may off moved people to new games

[forest snow]

Mean last 6 months was fixing the game

[royal swan]

Yep, just checked. Season 2 is map changes

Those maps better be more than what they showed us

[forest snow]

What they should would be a rough idea not what exactly we get

[mental delta]

Yes in the best set possible it would be like this, but they don't want to give us generic soldiers and normal classes, so they could at least put each specialist into classes like Sundance and Dozer in assault, Irish and Boris in engineer ...

[hot bronze]

Nothing in software engineering is simple. they have to make it from scratch as it was never placed in the game. it can be done but its not simple

[royal swan]

Lets just wait for season 1 when they give us more info

[mental delta]

Wtf ??? Like season 1 will not even have map rework

[hot bronze]

They already have made comments that that will most ikely be what they do in the rework

[royal swan]

If not then it should be game changing changes

[forest snow]

Never know the new specialist could break gameplay if the datamine is true

[mental delta]

Considering season 1 has more than 50% chances to be a mess with 1 map and 3 weapons there will be nobody for season 2 so it's useless to only put map rework in season 2

[royal swan]

3 weapons is just not enough

[mental delta]

However it could have been done before launch but they took a lot of bad decisions

[forest snow]

They said 3 ?

[mental delta]

I don't understand sorry

[royal swan]

It is old info. Like before launch info

[forest snow]

Be suprised if it is tbh

[mental delta]

I know it would be horrible but considering they are the new Dice and EA you can hardly expect more from them

[hot bronze]

Well ya they definitely missed target with 128 players and specialists.

[forest snow]

I don’t like the 128 players

[royal swan]

Or anyone for that matter

[forest snow]

Feels to much

[mental delta]

No at this time we all thought that would be 6 weapons ok s at least per update because they talked about a lot of content each season, but the actual game made us rethink our expectations

[hot bronze]

Its due to map design, as it is now its way too chaotic. and 128 breakthrough is just silly.

[royal swan]

The game didn't rethink my expectations but reminded me that progress is impossible without mistakes

[forest snow]

Agreed if anything breakthrough is used for vehicle farming infantry that’s it. Lower the player count and use the extra power for more interactive maps and bring back major maps events.

[mental delta]

Lol they put all their commercial strategy in the "128 players, biggest scale ever" and specialists thing, they didn't even try to fix bugs and balancing problems before launch

[hot bronze]

true! I have a feeling that 2042 was a boiling point for all the ideas they though of adding to BF games but didnt but unfortunately some of those was bad ideas.

[forest snow]

I also think last gen consoles hold the game back somewhat

[royal swan]

I wouldn't bash them for it because when was the last time a bf game fell harder than bfV

[mental delta]

They only put superficial things and features in the game but they totally forgot to add content

[royal swan]

It makes me laugh to imagine that we got angry over realism and immersion for bfv

Women in WW2 ooooooh Nooo my immersion

[mental delta]

Lol while this game was pretty good

Tbh I enjoyed it a lot 2 years before 2042 came out

[royal swan]

I love bfv. Sad it lost alot of potential

[mental delta]

It is a really good game, lot of content and maps, large scale with 64 players like in grand operations and breakthrough

[royal swan]

Firestorm could've been a great br

[mental delta]

And a really fucking community

[royal swan]

Yeah

[mental delta]

BFV players are a way more dedicated than 2042 players when it's about giving you ammo and heal equipment

[stone cradle]

It agitates me so much that EA told DICE to abandon it and make 2042, seriously, we could have gotten the Eastern front, soviet union as a faction, stalingrad, so much potential

[royal swan]

Could've been one of the greats

[mental delta]

Yes I don't really like br mode tbh so that's not where I put all my enjoyment but it could have been good

[royal swan]

I blame both EA and the community for giving BFV shit

[mental delta]

Yes and some battle of Normandy things

[jovial quest]

Any Alex?

[mental delta]

Yes the game was good and didn't deserve all that hate, but the trailer made it sink

[forest snow]

I know could of been destroying the red army in the eastern from and Sherman’s in Normandy with my tiger

[mental delta]

The weapon designer ?

[jovial quest]

You may call him that but he my boi

[mental delta]

I once got 32/0 with a light panzer, I was really impressed by myself lol

[jovial quest]

We wait

[mental delta]

He has to give us weapons

[royal swan]

Ah reminds me of my KD for the armored truck in bf1

[forest snow]

All the tanks where good in V for Germany tbh

[stone cradle]

True, DICE Stockholm and LA worked so hard to give us plenty of content, sometimes I wish these games weren't published by EA, but then again, EA is the company that funds them

[mental delta]

Yes pretty cool, my favorite tank in the game is the Sherman and British tanks are also really good

[forest snow]

Doesn’t help that they have to spend a few months fixing the game at launch

[royal swan]

I wish EA wasn't so dependent on game revenue

[mental delta]

Season 1 has to be full of content but I doubt it will

[stone cradle]

It surprises me that BF has remained the only series not touched by EA's greed and arrogance for decades. I guess they just gave DICE the freedom they needed, and that's how we got masterpieces like BF1, 3 and Bad Company.

[mental delta]

I think we waited more than 8 months to 3 weapons and some piece of 1 map

[solid imp]

I think I get what you're saying but isn't that a bit like asking for a pharmaceutical company to not be so dependent on selling pills?

[forest snow]

I pray it is

[royal swan]

That title is giving to Titan fall

[stone cradle]

Same, they stopped caring about BF the second Apex made them millions

[mental delta]

Me too

[royal swan]

Yeah true

[solid imp]

It's going to get worse.. they can't get that FIFA revenue anymore even though the individual teams are still signed on

[forest snow]

I want this game to succeed

[royal swan]

We all do

[stone cradle]

Not FIFA, EA football club now, because EA can't be bothered to pay FIFA licensing lmao

[arctic grove]

Ngl I’m forward to the map redesigns the most to see how much they improved 🙃

[forest snow]

Shit EA I’ll fly out there for free and help!

[mental delta]

Shitty games that always got a lot of attention and hype, now that they can't have ot anymore they'll directly try to make their big titles make more money

[solid imp]

(reply to Unsaled) Agree- I don't spend hundreds of hours on a game I don't already enjoy, flaws and all. I'm still optimistic, but that's just how I roll lol

[hot bronze]

Ok team, What new gadgets does everyone want to see? Totally new or bringing back oldys. no wrong answers.

[royal swan]

Mortar

[mental delta]

Season 2 only

[forest snow]

portable AA launcher from 4

[solid imp]

not quuiite what you're asking but Mackay should be able to set up new ziplines for the rest of his team

[stone cradle]

I kind of wish EA sells off the Battlefield IP and DICE off to a different company, maybe Sony buys it as a rival to Micorosft owning COD? that could work.

[royal swan]

I rather not have Sony buy EA

[hot bronze]

not a bad idea but I was meaning the gadgest that everyone can use

[royal swan]

Sony is another company that is shit with it's games

[hot bronze]

the mine or the igla?

[mental delta]

I never thought of that but if you are talking about the bfh system well that's pretty interesting

[stone cradle]

Mackay being able to set ziplines would be such a gamechanger, rn alot of the specialist's abilities are only to benefit themselves

[forest snow]

That’s it the mine yea

Loved that thing

[solid imp]

Yeah he would have some limited range within which he could set up the start/end anchors for the new zip. So nothing nearly as long as the prefab ones on the map, just whatever the range of his own portable zipline is

[mental delta]

M26 mass

[royal swan]

The mortar needs a return

[forest snow]

Kinda miss the bayonet charge

[mental delta]

Yes that's why some of them suck because it is not aiming at team play

[hot bronze]

wouldnt that just be a update too the already ingame under barrel shotgun?

[solid imp]

SRAW

[royal swan]

Personal mines

[mental delta]

Yes with a limited amount of it like 3 or 4

[solid imp]

Really miss tv guided projectiles as well as rockets that move as fast as rockets

[mental delta]

huh ... no ...

[solid imp]

Could be like Irish where it's a fixture of the map until Irish goes and picks them up or they get destroyed

[forest snow]

Took me ages to realise why the javelin doesn’t use the top down mode by default forgot in 3 it needs the soflam to do that

[solid imp]

This was such a good bit of detail

[forest snow]

Thought the model appears to be missing the protective foam in the front

[mental delta]

Yes only setting one and not several

[solid imp]

How about the RAWR so you could go hug a ranger by remote control 😂

[mental delta]

We also need the return of some rpg

[forest snow]

Wish we could also swap the weapon out for something else on the Ranger

[royal swan]

Claymore needs to be brought back

Or any personal mine

[solid imp]

THIS... buddy and I were just talking about Casper's drone and the ranger having equipment slots so you could be a mobile supply or med not just bullets/emp

[hot bronze]

fun fact you can put a ammo/med bag on the drown and fly it around lol

[forest snow]

Yea let it heal and re supply when running around or maybe a shotgun so it only becomes a danger up close and not shotting you across the map

[mental delta]

Lol really ?

[hot bronze]

ya just like C4

[solid imp]

@zinc whale team start at this message and scroll down for really actual productive conversation about gadget ideas 🙂
#battlefield-2042 message

[forest snow]

Or put a stinger missle on it….

[mental delta]

I'll try

[solid imp]

oh lol Dev is someone actual in this discord... sorry mate 😂

[forest snow]

It should bark to!

[hot bronze]

Im compilating a list for the next core feedback on specialists.

[radiant prism]

You can pet the ranger : )

[hot bronze]

So far I have
Motar.
Igla
Air Mine.
SRAW
SMAW
Personnel mines/Claymore
Javelin
RPG
M26 MASS

[karmic cobalt]

Oh dear lord please not the bf4 AA mine lnao

[hot bronze]

I know right lol but im not here to discriminate on what ppl want. Im adding all the community ideas to the list

[karmic cobalt]

Yeah I get that and all but the AA mine deserves to be discriminated against

[forest snow]

2042 100% need the AA mine

[karmic cobalt]

No

[hot bronze]

no need to fight, youre both pretty.

[karmic cobalt]

No I’m prettier 💪

And the AA mine is gross

[forest snow]

And watch those little birds just fall out the sky

[quasi mortar]

I'm tired of playing Hourglass, I know it's friday the 13th but what are the odds I get to play this shitty map 5 times in a row

[hot bronze]

Play flashback. its better

[calm bison]

Just a tip - you can shoot and throw back grenades in 2042

[solid imp]

I mayyyyy have accidentally tk'd a bud this way

[quasi mortar]

I'm trying to level the SWS and Paik, i'm busy with achievements

[calm bison]

[solid imp]

https://youtu.be/V9HAyDxHMYc

[hot bronze]

true. but I find the normal frag is hard to get to before it triggers. but the motion ball is a great one to throw back. it becomes yours too when you do

[calm bison]

Gaming

[arctic cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZAqpMo1pd0

[hot bronze]

thats amazing...

[bold steppe]

is the game still dead?

[solid imp]

thanks halo

[hot bronze]

I can always find a game

[solid imp]

in fairness BT does start with a heap of AI but it fills out pretty quick usually.. but I'm in NA so probably finding NA/EU servers which are still doing okay

[bold steppe]

with bots

[hot bronze]

almost always full or quickly fills up

[bold steppe]

yes fills up with bots

[arctic grove]

Fr

[hot bronze]

im sorry for you bad luck

[arctic grove]

I never have games with a lot of bots tbh

[bold steppe]

well the player count doesnt lie

[arctic grove]

Only late at night I sometimes have a few bots

[hot bronze]

and? 1500 - 2500 can fill up alot of games.

[solid imp]

There you go @hot bronze we have the starting message of productive gadget talk and now we have the end point lol

[hot bronze]

its how it goes lol

[glad mist]

it was never alive

[solid imp]

literally just learned you can do that on a condor as well hahaha
https://youtu.be/GfMfD87p7uI

[silk surge]

The problem is that the condor will be permaspotted as the enemies can see a floating ammo crate icon.

Gotta love 4.0 😄

[solid imp]

That.. is possibly the coolest c5 footage I've yet seen in this game

[silk surge]

It's really fun to do. DICE made it easier to grapple a condor in 4.0. Now it's a legitimate counter against stationary condors.

[solid imp]

which... man those pilots who still do that just get a big smdh from me

hind/condor are the most powerful weapon platform on the whole team with a proper crew, so hovering at 15m is such a fat target for everyone

[fervent grotto]

Why do people hover so close to the ground? Like legitimately. It is so easy to kill them

[solid imp]

and if you have people doing reps in the back the recoilless has a lot of splash damage on passenger seats so usually those reps evaporate with the first rocket

[edgy oriole]

I dont get how manifest brings out the brave in pilots. I've killed quite a few jets just hovering too

[solid imp]

those cranes feel like "cover" ? idk. /shrug

[tacit sphinx]

they do provide some cover against guided weapons which tend to have a slightly less direct flight path so can get tangled it the various bits

but yeah you do get quite a lot of people hovering in condors dropping people directly onto the boats, which makes sense but it's annoying when they're soaking up 3+ unguided rockets

[silk surge]

The map is dark af, so I guess people are incentivised to drive up closer to the ground.

[grizzled whale]

its a great way to get to points faster as infantry at the start of a match

[solid imp]

I will say the truly outstanding pilots (not at all me heh) somehow know when to turn around a building, mountain, crane, whatever at just the right time to kill that locked projectile when they're out of flares. But also those pilots rarely hover unless it's to neutralize a flag and boogie on out of there without fully capping.

[solid imp]

oh that's a lovely idea

[tacit sphinx]

i can occasionally get behind something at the right time but it's usually just linked to "oh no i'm out of flares and there's like three guys wth rockets looking at me, time to get out"

[honest comet]

@grizzled whale gg

[warped pulsar]

You guys think the update will be next week?

[velvet sand]

Prob early June if I had to guess. I mean, they're a whole-ass month late on when they said the specialist feedback loop would start. The only thing DICE is doing consistently is missing their own stated deadlines, so I don't know why the "May" update would actually drop in may.

[clear quail]

prepare to be shocked then

[tall yew]

DICE started to do work on the specialist system then found out there 0 to fix because it ain’t broken.

[velvet sand]

I'm happy for DICE to pleasantly surprise me and actually deliver something when they said they would.

[radiant prism]

I mean, they delivered last month's update on time

[velvet sand]

"Early April" is not April 19*

[radiant prism]

They gave us info well prior to that IIRC

Personally I don't see much point in throwing a fit about something being what, 5 days late?

[velvet sand]

I'm not throwing a fit?

[radiant prism]

Its just not that big of a deal to me. I'm not saying you are, it was just a general term I guess.

[velvet sand]

But like, it's a pattern with them. State date, miss date often without comment. Makes it hard to take any dates they say serious, like "May update" or "Early summer". I mean, the specialist loop is legit a month late from when they said it was supposed to start and they've said literally nothing about the delay.

I'm actually kinda miffed about that, because the "feedback loops" were supposed to be the whole communication and working with the community thing, and so far the one we've had has been kinda underwhelming.

[radiant prism]

Don't worry that much I know. Respectfully, you haven't shut up about the feedback loop. Doesn't make you not right about it, but its like everytime I see you. Not even trying to start a fight here, I actually find it funny

[vale pier]

I get the feeling they know how the specialist feedback will go. 90% saying "remove them and bring back classes"

[radiant prism]

I think people just hate the term specialist and don't actually take into consideration that there's minimal difference between them and classes

[velvet sand]

I'll continue to not shut up about it in the forums and here where DICE CM's are supposedly monitoring feedback. I know the decision may be over their heads and out of their control in terms of when they can communicate on it, but maybe making enough noise will give them ammo to tell their bosses they need to talk.

[honest comet]

man im tryin to kill something with plane, like those aa rockets are like mosquitos to enemy helis

[velvet sand]

100% will be, but we know they can't do that. So I'm curious what they've been thinking of/working on in terms of updating the specialist system for the past 7 months so we can provide feedback on that.

[honest comet]

i hit and dude repairs, i hit dude repairs heli and so on

[radiant prism]

30mm cannons absolutely shred helis, just don't use them if you want to target infantry

[honest comet]

yeah but they usually fly very low

where its super hard to accuratly shoot them and avoid buildings

[radiant prism]

Fair

I usually use the radar guided missiles if I want to target anti air

[honest comet]

i just use plane to get rid of enemy helis

coz they make chaos to my team

[radiant prism]

I usually run the 30mm cannons and AGMs on the Su-57

Target aircraft with the cannons and make ground runs with the AGMs

[tacit sphinx]

AGMs are easily the best option

when someone starts SOFLAM designating enemy air

[honest comet]

also the range of aa rockets is pretty funny

[radiant prism]

I keep the 25mm on the F35 personally though, since the VTOL gives you good opportunity to target infantry

And the 25mm shreds infantry

[tacit sphinx]

honestly while AGMs are obviously the best option the 30mm is quite interesting to use against armour

and it absolutely decimates lighter vehicles lol

[honest comet]

how do u manage to shoot infantry with plane guns

[radiant prism]

VTOL

[honest comet]

but su cant do that

[next onyx]

Tier 1 legal wall hack lady and PBX acquired.

[tacit sphinx]

mostly just hold down the trigger in the direction of the red dots on the ground

[honest comet]

lol really?

[tacit sphinx]

i mean you'll get some hits

[radiant prism]

I run the 30mm on the Su-57 since there's not much point targeting infantry, so I just run AGMs and focus on vehicles

But I can deal with the 25mm on the F35 if I can target infantry

[warped pulsar]

What a pain, guess season 1 could be August

[next onyx]

The minor damage on vehicles can help with the AGM's.

Jet guns just suck spread wise.

[cedar turtle]

I'm a gun runner

[tacit sphinx]

yeah i've found since boltes take 3 missiles you can spray them from a distance with the 30mm and then drop missiles as you fly away

[radiant prism]

Anyways the AK-24 is the best gun in the game and you cannot convince me otherwise

[next onyx]

Ak24 works but the Pp29 exists too.

I love the AK but the PP29 works if not better due to its range.

[velvet sand]

I will fight you on this. AC-42 is still king, fam.

[radiant prism]

AK's got better range though, especially if you can click heads

[next onyx]

Not even hard to control either. I might get 5K with the Ak42 though.

Ac42 is good.

[rigid pewter]

Hello all, i used to play allot of bf3 and 4
Thinking about buying this one or not. I was a little put off by the beta performance but not sure if i should buy or not now

[next onyx]

pp29 has better damage range literally.

[velvet sand]

Even post-nerf the AC-42 is still hilariously strong.

[next onyx]

They never nerfed the Ac?

[velvet sand]

Ye, in 4.0 apparently it got a bit of a nerf to damage at range and accuracy IIRC.

[next onyx]

Oh that's right I remember.

[radiant prism]

Maybe I just suck but I can't do nearly as well with the AC-42 as I can with the AK-24

[next onyx]

Just stick high powered into the AC42 and have an infinite 26 damage range.

[radiant prism]

I do but the ammo capacity is so restrictive

[velvet sand]

I use high-cap mags with long barrel for a bit less recoil. Damage is lower, but it still acts like a damned laser gun lol.

[next onyx]

Yeah ammo wise high powered sucks a bit.

[hard plume]

Not if you have angel

[next onyx]

Nah he means per mag.

21 rounds.

[hard plume]

Call in those drops

[radiant prism]

You effectively only have 7 shots with the high power mags, and the high cap standard rounds just don't have the same punch

That's why I stick to the AK, 40 round mag, controllable recoil, grenade launcher, and great stopping power

[tacit sphinx]

ac42 is almost better in spammy semi auto fire especially at more than about 20m

[radiant prism]

If I have time today I'll give the AC-42 another shot

[velvet sand]

Semi-auto 4 lyfe.

[radiant prism]

I do have it to T1 but I just...eh. I dunno. I can't use it

[tacit sphinx]

or three

[radiant prism]

I'm bad I guess

[tacit sphinx]

ive just picked it up again tbh

[next onyx]

It's a passive aggressive gun.

You can't go aggro but it does best mid range.

[radiant prism]

M5 has felt very underwhelming at times, the standard rounds feel a bit spongy

Which I run all the time for the range

High power has too much recoil to use outside of close range

Close quarter rounds slap but they're CQC only

I've honestly had a better time with the SFAR, maybe I just do better with slower firing guns

[next onyx]

Close combat isn't even that bad outside of close combat.

That's sort of the irony.

Stick a long barrel onto it to get your velocity back.

[honest comet]

i love the new skin they added for weekly challenge

[radiant prism]

Yes but alternatively short barrel go brrrrrrrrrrr

[next onyx]

Short barrel is very good yeah, Though it's really easy to switch to long.

PBX do be kinda strong when paired with legal wallhacks.

[radiant prism]

I usually switch between a barrel attachment and the short barrel, with a suppressor in my third slot just in case I need to go all sneaky

[honest comet]

ur aim is so smooth @next onyx

[tacit sphinx]

basically makes it an mp9

[next onyx]

Though with a bit of a quicker reload!

[grizzled whale]

mp9 best smg

[radiant prism]

Also it may not be much but I appreciate the detail of the close combat rounds being fed through a magazine adapter

Ok low key? Drum mags are VERY overrated

[next onyx]

They're not as good as they could have since pre release.

[grizzled whale]

then again, i dont like how just using a mag adapter changes the whole caliber of the weapon

[radiant prism]

The higher capacity is nice but they reload so slowly and the reserve ammo is near nonexistant, especially on the MP9

[next onyx]

Vector makes the best use of drum mags since it gets 102 in reserve.

AK24 is alright with drum mags, Kinda works like an IAR.

[honest comet]

what best on sws 10

[grizzled whale]

long barrel, the rest is up to you

[radiant prism]

My whole headcanon with the attachment system is hyper-modular systems being developed allowing for on-the-field changes like that

Think like quick change barrels or hell even receivers

[next onyx]

I did hit this earlier though.

Obviously bots being pushed out but it's interesting.

[copper rock]

I really love all the AI in the game

[tacit sphinx]

yeah i use drums on the k30, everything else just extended mags since you get a lot more ammo reserve

[radiant prism]

K30 drums are actually useable since you can reload more than once lol

[tacit sphinx]

yeah

[grizzled whale]

just pick up ammo

you are running an smg anyway so you are already close to enemies

[radiant prism]

Yeah but I'm too damn triggerhappy to keep that up lol

[copper rock]

[tacit sphinx]

stuff like the ak and mp9 i'll keep them in the plus system but i don't have them equipped standard

[radiant prism]

I don't like having to chase bodies I've downed for the ammo, I prefer to be able to drop a target and hold position if I need to

[next onyx]

I just use standard extended on the mp9 because 40 rounds.

[radiant prism]

For the AK, I just run the 40 round extended mag. Get more ammo capacity while keeping the recoil controllable and the reload speed manageable

[copper rock]

There are plenty of AI to kill anyway

[tacit sphinx]

this + ammo packs from bodies only go so far, unless you're landing every shot perfectly and collecting ammo from every dead guy you'll be at a net loss of ammo

[radiant prism]

Then for the backup I run the high cap to use with the suppressor in case I need to go sneaky

[tacit sphinx]

realistically it's just preference, i prefer having quicker reloads and slightly less capacity to longer reloads and more instant capacity but less reserves

[radiant prism]

My usual playstyle if I'm not in extreme CQC is moving up to a position, clearing forward, then moving up once everything's clear. That's a lot of ammo expenditure at range lol

[next onyx]

Drum mag SCAR is alright if you use it.

Gun is a bit eh but hey, 40+1 rounds.

[radiant prism]

Too much kick for me, I stick with the standard high power mag.

[next onyx]

Drum mag doesn't add any kick?

[radiant prism]

I can deal with the 20 round capacity since the reload is fairly quick

[tacit sphinx]

i tend to have my scar as more of a scar-L than H

[radiant prism]

Drum mags mess with recoil control on all guns actually

[next onyx]

Yeah nah as a L it's better but no standard extended.

[radiant prism]

Its a noticeable change

[next onyx]

I don't feel that drum mag increases recoil.

[radiant prism]

Its subtle, but enough to mess with me

[next onyx]

I could open a server and mag dump in a wall for a test.

You know what. Lesh go.

[radiant prism]

I swear its a difference

Yeah go to the customization page and look at the difference in handling between the standard high power and the drum high power

[grizzled whale]

they nerfed the underbarrel shotty

without an actual update

[radiant prism]

@next onyx The SFAR-M's handling drops from 34 to 24 when you switch from the 20 round high power to the drum high power

[frank rain]

Fleck is so amazing

[next onyx]

Middle is 20 rounds, Left most is 40 rounds. The right most one was a bit of a fuckup.

[radiant prism]

Same with the AK-24, drops from 36-26 from the 40 round mag to the 50 round drum

[next onyx]

This is with an unmodified barrel.

It really just kills reload speeds. That's just what it feels like, Handling feels just as much.

[frank rain]

Hardick is bashing

[radiant prism]

Maybe you just have better aim than I do, but the AR drum mags statistically have much less control

[next onyx]

Handling isn't control.

[radiant prism]

Weirdly enough...the MP9 drum only drops handling 2 points, and the K30 only drops it 5 points

[next onyx]

Handling refers to sprint out speeds, ADS times and reloads.

[radiant prism]

Uhhhh bullshit I swear theres more recoil and similarly to my stance on the AK-24 you cannot convince me otherwise

[next onyx]

I mean I could magdump into the same wall with the same amount and try to find a difference.

[honest comet]

u playin on pc ?@next onyx

[velvet sand]

Man I forgot how broken her wallhax are, I should play her more.

[next onyx]

Yeah I'm on PC.

[honest comet]

op aim broda

[radiant prism]

Blind enemies if you ask me...her spotting ability also spots her for enemies on the minimap

[next onyx]

I main Mackay but I'm abusing other stuff.

[radiant prism]

They shoulda seen you coming a mile away

[velvet sand]

I like playing medic so I'm usually Falck (can't stand Angel), so I don't usually play with all the fun tools the assault specialists get.

[next onyx]

But they didn't cause barely anyone checks their pfp.

[radiant prism]

Anytime I hear the little "spotted" ping, my eyes fly to my minimap

[next onyx]

Not pfp sorry.

Minimap.

[honest comet]

tru

[velvet sand]

Situational awareness is not a strong point of many players in BF, oddly.

[radiant prism]

Its just like visibility in BFV, 90% of people's problems would be solved quite literally by just paying more attention

[arctic grove]

Lmao

[honest comet]

bcs its very campy sometimes @velvet sand

[radiant prism]

Fuckin true lmao

[velvet sand]

Extremely so. Though I count myself in the "no situational awareness club" as well since I definitely derp and do dumb things while not paying full attention.

[honest comet]

happens

at the end its about havin fun

i got awarness from playin cod

its very fast paced and its crucial to be aware at all times

[grizzled whale]

nice first match

[radiant prism]

Nice

I might play but man are college finals kicking my ass right now

[velvet sand]

I still try to be sweaty like from the old CS 1.x days when I used to compete but now I'm old and slow and can't keep up with the young whippersnappers.

My old hand-bones don't work like they used to, I might have the arthritis in my hands (since I already have it in one knee -_-)

[tacit sphinx]

there's this almost very funny photo on my ps4 but it didnt quite save at the right time of the person who just killed me on the other side of a small wall to my teammate, both looking at me

[radiant prism]

Ive been half-revived by blind medics too many times

[hidden sand]

Eh not the best comparison imo
BFV had pretty severe visibility issues because of the overabundance of visual clutter

[grizzled whale]

finally

[radiant prism]

People who watch me get shot from somewhere right in front of them and just run up to me and start reviving

[grizzled whale]

someone who agrees that you cant see shit in BFV

[hidden sand]

Level design should have followed BF1s thought process for BFV, imo
Visbility would not have been such an issue

[radiant prism]

I guess I just struggle with visibility less than the average bear. I had very little trouble seeing enemies in BFV

[hidden sand]

Well there's character lighting now, which has fixed most of the issues so that might be it

[radiant prism]

There was character lighting for 90% of the game's lifespan, they addressed that pretty early on IIRC

[tacit sphinx]

yeah it was kinda bad at launch but it's been fine for ages

[frank rain]

Will there be tier 2 skin and badge

[tacit sphinx]

what

[hidden sand]

One downside of Character lighting is just how bad it makes the models look lol

[wide shore]

I honestly feel like the community got too used to 3D spotting.

[radiant prism]

Everyone throws around that one clip from devastation which pisses me off so much because the guy is obstructed by a lamppost and its played off like "CANT SEE ENEMIES!!!!!" Well yeah you can't see through solid things, big whoop lol

[next onyx]

I'd rather have audio than 3d spotting up the ass.

[tacit sphinx]

i mean i'd quite like skins for all the mastery tiers but idk why you're asking me specifically lol

[velvet sand]

Agree, and when it was team-wide it was really busted. I'd love to see it return on a squad-level. Like, your spots actually 3d spot for your squad only.

[next onyx]

Yeah Cracer we have no idea.

[frank rain]

👿 😡

[next onyx]

Most likely not.

[hidden sand]

The one with the prone enemy?

[radiant prism]

yeah

[tacit sphinx]

yeah i think part of it was bfv was the first that didn't have the "press button to announce their location to everyone"

[radiant prism]

He was visible on screen for exactly two frames before he died, of course the guy couldn't react

[wide shore]

I reckon V had pretty good audio. I never had any issues telling friendly sounds from enemy ones.

[radiant prism]

90% of my target acquisition in BFV was audio lol

[next onyx]

Yeah friendly footsteps were quietened.

[radiant prism]

And gunshots to a lesser degree

[tacit sphinx]

even though honestly there was plenty of spotting still, just most of it required some sort of action

[next onyx]

OH my god I remember when they increase footstep audio by 50% and so enemies that were running 30M ahead of you sounded like they were in the next room.

That shit was a nightmare through and through.

Yeah Dr same.

Spotting scope was heavily limited and flares you needed to be close.

[wide shore]

Also needed to be in the air in V. And they fell pretty fast and could be shot down.

[hidden sand]

I mean maybe, but personally, I am able to catch people that quickly in BF1 and BF3. I'm sure many others can too.

I mean lets not pretend the visual clutter wasn't absurd in BFV, there was way too much of it.

[radiant prism]

This is V though, TTK is wicked fast. The guy was firing milliseconds after he became visible to the player, he was screwed no matter what happened.

[wide shore]

I don’t think I’ve ever been killed on V and thought “man, if only I could’ve seen him. Man this visibility is bad”

More-so, “wow I didn’t even see that guy. Fair enough”

[hidden sand]

Nah not saying he would have lived, just that noticing him should have been easier. The environment made that nearly impossible.

[next onyx]

The only video on bf5 I remember was the "Was that a sturmtiger" video.

Dude's on F on Aerodrome looking around, Sees the tank, Processes it and before he knows it it blasts him across the map.

[tacit sphinx]

lmao wtf did i just witness

[next onyx]

What happened.

[copper fulcrum]

What in tarnation!

[tacit sphinx]

some guy in an latv doing skate tricks on the blown up oil tanks on devastation

watched it drive past and basically use it as a quarter pipe ramp

[radiant prism]

blown up oil tanks? devastation??

[tacit sphinx]

man idk i meant breakaway lmao

[next onyx]

Hehe dark and grungy.

[wide shore]

Very similar maps. I see why you got confused.

[hidden sand]

Blue

And more blue

[tacit sphinx]

was just in my head from the conversation lol

[wide shore]

The BF3 approach

[tacit sphinx]

i do find that map/game knowledge tends to help visibility in a way, or rather you already know where to generally expect enemies to be so you'll have an easier time spotting them than if you were just stumbling around with no idea of the area

[grizzled whale]

bro the 57mm is actually useless

the lag, the shells CLEARLY hitting but not doing damage

[hidden sand]

Have any of you seen the development streams from motive for dead space? They go so in-depth with the development process. Frostbite is even shown directly, too.

Makes me wonder why DICE can't do this either? Dead Space hasn't even released yet so DICE would have an easier time, Id imagine.

[grizzled whale]

i hit this littlebird 7 times, and it wasnt destroyed yet

[wide shore]

Death Valley is worse than I remember

[copper fulcrum]

When you

[next onyx]

Anyone ever got this?

Cause oh boy. Fun. -.-

[copper fulcrum]

Skill Issue

[radiant prism]

Skill Issue

[wide shore]

The D spawns on Discarded fucking suck

[velvet sand]

All. The. Time. It's why I generally prefer not to play CQ...but that's all I play now with flashback/infantry only CQ.

[copper fulcrum]

Imagine dying to two AI.

[wide shore]

You almost always spawn down there. And if it’s not players chilling at the bottom, it’s a Bolte/heli/tank

[next onyx]

Imagine getting shot instantly when you spawn but due to forced animations you literally can't even retaliate.

Yeah it's hell spawning on that point.

[velvet sand]

WHY WOULD A SPECIALIST EVER ENTER THE BATTLEFIELD WITH A ROUND CHAMBERED? THAT'S JUST UNSAFE!

[hidden sand]

Speaking of that, I kind of hate how popular infantry conquest is becoming, because it all stims from their ridiculously bad balancing and I'm sure they won't learn from it.

I hope they realize it's not because people don't want vehicles, they just need to be balanced better.

[next onyx]

I know that spawn logic is tied to flags owned.

[velvet sand]

Safety first. Make sure the chamber is clear and the safety is on before deploying into an active warzone.

[hidden sand]

Actually no, the vehicles aren't too unbalanced, many are actually weak, it's the level design.

[copper fulcrum]

C5 go brrrrrt

[wide shore]

Bingo

[velvet sand]

Mixture of LOTS of things. Map design, specialist functionality etc. all in the mix. Which is frustrating because DICE thinks they can seemingly solve problems one at a time without apparently considering all the interconnected parts of the game.

[wide shore]

Also not every map needs every single vehicle type.

[hidden sand]

Have any of you seen that clip of someone using Sundance to essentially hover over a tank and place C4 on it? GG DICE

[wide shore]

There’s no balance or reprieve right now. Every map has every vehicle spawnable. There’s no sweet meat grinder infantry only map. There’s no maps with just tanks (and no air).

They’re all full vehicle maps

[velvet sand]

Oh man, Sundance's ability to hover in the air by deploying/undeploying wingsuit is hilarious.

[next onyx]

I actually don't mind the fact you can bully vehicles like that but the maps just make the vehicles more powerful since it's just a shooting range for them.

[hidden sand]

The grappling hook and wingsuit completely screw up map balance and infantry v vehicle balance.

[next onyx]

Grappling hook and that are alright but they need more sound.

More of an audio cue.

That grappling hook shunk isn't very loud.

[velvet sand]

What's frustrating is DICE talked up that maps would have many areas more focused on infantry combat where vehicles would play a smaller role but like...I can think of maybe 2-3 areas across all maps (in breakthrough at least) where that actually applies.

Like the tunnel in Orbital to a point....except that vehicles can camp the exists and the tunnel is just getting you between two capture points.

[hidden sand]

There's no countering it though, that's bad design.
Infantry can counter every thing a tank throws at them, while a tank cannot. Not exactly balanced.

[next onyx]

Except in an open field or if they just sit back sadly.

But I know what you mean.

[velvet sand]

Ye. Aggressive play is risky (obviously), very much so. But there's a lot of time when you can just chill on a hill in tank/wildcat/bolte and just spam rounds at infantry with relative safety.

[wide shore]

The arena on Hourglass. (But you can get a Bolte inside), most of the flags on manifest, tunnel on orbital, the oil rig on breakaway even though nobody ever goes there, the D & B flags on Kaleidoscope, D flags on Renewal

That’s all I can think of.

[next onyx]

It's nice to know there's some sort of check to tanks in a sundance with c5 but as a whole it's really questionable.

[hidden sand]

Never really had an issue taking out tanks in those locations in 2042, the turret and movement speed make them extremely vulnerable.

At the same time though, because of that, aggressive play is punishhed severely. Which has caused a lot more campers.

BFV did vehicles so well how did they screw it up so badly lol.

[mental cave]

this sounds like too much, I literally just run up to a tank and manage to blow it up on foot. People rarely have a gunner

[velvet sand]

Ye, and arena on Hourglass is only in CQ, it's totally unused in breakthrough (which really sucks because it's cool!). Only the ship flags really prevent ground vehicles on manifest (at least in breakthrough), and you can get vehicles onto the oil rig in breakaway...it's just a bit risky since you need to hold the ramp (or drop them on the platform.

[hidden sand]

Tanks in this game are so easy to take out, because of how weak they are. The splash dmg is low so you have to get direct hits to infantry.

[wide shore]

Tank and infantry balance was fucked in BFV. It took wayyyy too much to destroy tanks in that game. I could get 2 piats, an AT grenade & a lunge mine on a tank and it would just be there still. If I can get that many hit on a vehicle it should be fucked. Cause the driver is an idiot.

[mental cave]

maybe they need a buff to health but then a nerf to speed

[arctic grove]

Perhaps it’s the fact that everyone can carry an m5

[mental cave]

m5 actually does damage?

[wide shore]

Yes

[hidden sand]

Really? I've never had an issue taking out tanks in BFV. It's always been pretty easy. Few dynamite and a at grenade usually does the job.

[mental cave]

[wide shore]

I have the M5 tier 1

[next onyx]

Got all my subbies to tier 1 so that's kinda nice.

[wide shore]

It’s the only gadget I use.

[next onyx]

Just need to get the crappy SCAR done.

[mental cave]

scar is so easy

[wide shore]

CRAPPY SCAR!?

[next onyx]

It lacks a proper damage model.

[arctic grove]

If you have a full squad with them🙃

[wide shore]

It’s so accurate though

[analog stirrup]

imagine struggling with an AR in this game

[next onyx]

When the pp29, A smaller submachine has a better damage range than a SCAR H then you have problems.

Nvm the damage range, An actual damage model.

[hidden sand]

Why? Health is fine. Movement speed needs to be improved along with turret speed.
Then add proper dmg models to make taking them out easier. Similar to BFV.

[next onyx]

22-22 is nice when it can actually hit people at a range.

Spread just feels worse on it.

[wide shore]

Idk man. I beam people with the SFAR at good ranges

And I use the standard issue mag too

[mental cave]

scar is probably the easiest gun to use

[next onyx]

It's more viable as a SCAR L than as a Scar H let's be honest.

[mental cave]

the pp is terrible to me now

[next onyx]

It feels amazing for me.

If I give enough of a damn I might get 10K for it.

[wide shore]

I finally worked for the PP T1 now that it’s not a god gun.

Still really good though.

[brittle forge]

The Scar’s recoil feels weird to me

[wide shore]

The PBX got some new life after the patch, I will say

With the right attachments it’s really good

[brittle forge]

Like it’s not bad recoil but my attempts to compensate it just don’t work?

[next onyx]

It's got an annoying horizontal spike.

[brittle forge]

Happens with the AK sometimes too, don’t know if it’s a mouse input issue

[wide shore]

Case and point. Lol

Surprised you don’t use the extendo mag

[next onyx]

This is close combat.

[wide shore]

Fair enough

[next onyx]

Mid extended just good damage model of 25, Fire rate and barely any recoil.

[wide shore]

Might have to try that

[hidden sand]

Iirc smgs are still technically better than ARs atm

[wide shore]

What else is new

[next onyx]

Ar's fit Mackay much better due to mobility.

But eh.

[arctic grove]

Did they add any new guns/maps/content, etc.

[arctic grove]

That’s coming in 16th of June or something

[arctic grove]

Was that confirmed

[velvet sand]

"early summer", summer starts like june 20 so defo not before that

[arctic grove]

That could even be early July

[velvet sand]

Literally nothing new since the feb blog post about S1

[arctic grove]

Bruh

They're trash

[arctic grove]

Nah it’s from a data miner Temporyal

Okay that gives me hope

[solid imp]

Have hope gents! 🙂

[velvet sand]

https://twitter.com/temporyal/status/1516748523244507143?ref_src=twsrc^tfw actual tweet, it wouldn't be the first time there were multiple weeks without a mission though, and it's likely DICE will patch in more weekly missions in the "may update"

[solid imp]

I am getting impatient for the may update but I haven't lost hope overall lol

[arctic grove]

About 40+ more days my man.

[bitter sphinx]

Any info about season 1? Forseeable date?

[velvet sand]

literally like, a dozen posts above about it

[fiery shoal]

[terse valve]

What's to even be expected in the May update?

[arctic grove]

Dunno

[pallid acorn]

may 29th :)

[pallid acorn]

i think it was the kaleidoscope rework

[solid imp]

Portal XP changes I think

[terse valve]

Should rework all the maps honestly. Footwork sucks ass between objectives.

[pallid acorn]

they are but apparently adding more cover takes months

[velvet sand]

Nope, the map improvements are coming "by the end of S1" to those two maps. May update is supposedly just more bugfixing and incremental improvements.

[pallid acorn]

i heard they are adding a blizzard to breakaway in s1 or something though

[pallid acorn]

by the end 💀

[velvet sand]

Yeah...not exactly an exciting timeline, but it is what it is.

[terse valve]

Honestly I think an easy fix would be to give everyone the wingsuit, then just rework Sundance. But, I can't imagine that's a very popular opinion to have

[pallid acorn]

reddit would collapse

[velvet sand]

Oh fuck no please good lord anything but this what the fuck.

[hidden sand]

Everyone having the wingsuit is a horrible idea

[pallid acorn]

i like the wingsuit but yeah that doesnt sound good

[terse valve]

Perhaps. I just find it hard to play anyone except Sundance outside of Angel. It takes way too long for me to work my little leggy legs to get from one point to the other. God forbid anyone stops their vehicle to give you a ride.

[pallid acorn]

imagine being in c1 on hourglass and seeing 20 wingsuits come from the city

[pallid acorn]

i play mackay and just redeploy if im out of the action

[velvet sand]

That's a fundamental problem with map design that, sadly, DICE doesn't seem keen on fixing for the OG maps. I only hope that all the new maps aren't massive, pointlessly gigantic maps for the sake of being massive, pointlessly gigantic maps that don't give them any room to make changes/alterations without needing to remove tons of shit to give them some freedom to work.

[terse valve]

Sure right? Redeploy is always an option. Then your team bleeds a ticket.

[pallid acorn]

oh

forgot that

[next onyx]

To be fair people don't think that any more.

[terse valve]

I agree. Big maps are hella cool I guess. But what's the point if you can't do anything outside of quick access armored vehicles? Everytime I put in some leg work I either have air superiority on my ass or like ten snipers spam firing.

[pallid acorn]

i love the view from e2 on breakaway but god other than that i never go there

[velvet sand]

There are solutions. Adding more civilian vehicles is one of them, but DICE has said they don't have the budget (in terms of map complexity) for that without removing some stuff and don't seem keen on it. So they're just moving some flags around and adding some desperately needed cover to a few maps and calling it a day : / I don't think the launch maps are ever gonna really be "good" in this regard, we just gotta hope the new maps are good and we get more than 1 per season (probably not) so we have some variety.

[terse valve]

I actually thought of that too. Why not just add some more trucks and other vehicles around the map for us to get around quicker?

Regardless, we'll have to see what happens. At least additional cover is a somewhat nice thing to add.

[hearty flame]

Didnt dice mention that they are at their vehicle limit? so they cant really add anymore vehicles scattered around the map

[frigid cairn]

the base maps are fine and the only thing dice needs to do is add a separate infantry-only mode with CQB layouts (e.g. the stadium in Hourglass)

[velvet sand]

Sorta. They can, but they'd have to find ways to reduce complexity in the maps elsewhere to allow for more bandwidth/hardware budget (I don't know the exact term) since it seems that maps are basically maxed out in terms of what can be done/added atm.

[wide violet]

just make maps small again

[frigid cairn]

metro 2042 babyyyyyyyyy

[radiant prism]

Anything but metro please

[hearty flame]

A map based on a metro hub with a big central station and multiple route arms would be cool

[radiant prism]

This game's forte is combined arms on a large scale, I don't need hallway hell with 128 players

[frigid cairn]

yeah the base maps are great for combined arms but you gotta satisfy the complainers and they want metro

[terse valve]

I enjoy Battlefield 2042 honestly. But, I've gotten to the point with map sizes that all I'll do is SOFLAM in the middle of the map or sit in a vehicle as Sundance to repair and throw grenades. I used to love playing the objective hard in other Battlefield titles. I hate it now. It just takes too long to get anywhere by foot. You just die trying or the objective gets capped before you can get close.

[frigid cairn]

you're not supposed to run point to point on foot unless you're pushing alongside the rest of your team and armor

you should be jumping from high points or using vehicles

[radiant prism]

That or just sticking to what cover exists. Yeah theres a lot of open areas on maps like Hourglass, but there's generally routes from objective to objective that offer some cover

Don't wanna get shot out in the open? Don't go out in the open

[terse valve]

What vehicles? No one ever stops to pick you up. Then if I parachute I get start getting lit up. You also don't always have a high place to base jump from.

[next onyx]

Can't exactly push when you're team is not bothering at all.

[frigid cairn]

get your own vehicle maybe? lol they made it easier than ever

[pallid acorn]

i remember i had to plugin my keyboard into my ps5 to give my teammates instructions

[terse valve]

There's really not a whole lot of transportation to go around? Everyone grabs a vehicle and just suicides it or camps it on a hill, man.

[radiant prism]

Also don't pull your chute high off the ground

[next onyx]

Can't exactly get a vehicle when everyone's using theirs and driven off without you.

Lol Yoma.

Chat is funny.

[pallid acorn]

its great

[terse valve]

I also do that instead of playing the objective. Just talking weird shit to other players.

[next onyx]

I always go where the kills are.

[velvet sand]

My team will read my erotic Shrek roleplay and they will enjoy it.

[next onyx]

So objective.

The fun part is when no one pushes with you because of some weird crap.