battlefield-2042

[mental cave]

everytime I hit a chopper with it, its like nothing happened 😭

[fiery shoal]

i just wish kd farming vehicles were called in with points, not just randomly clicked when available

[honest comet]

not to mention u need 2-3 rockets to take one down

so good luck hitting 2-3 times

[placid echo]

So like battlefront?

[fiery shoal]

i guess, never played it

[quiet shell]

Now you're cherry picking. I never discredited the communication DICE had given us, it's about the value behind it. I'm saying they aren't using the feedback system they put in place. I can appreciate that they listened regarding 2 portal modes even when given Portal isn't nearly as populated as AoW. What I am saying is DICE is failing to provide the feedback loop THEY want US to use so they can make 2042 a better game. You can even look at the final statement blog for the first feedback loop and they said they "We’ll return in a couple of weeks with a new topic for Core Feedback, this time focusing on Specialists." Here it is 2 months later.

[honest comet]

i agree nyphon those should be for better players

not just random dudes from flight simulator just rockin kd with it

[fiery shoal]

" I never discredited the communication DICE had given us"

i read to here and stopped...

[fiery shoal]

i just dont like the idea of people just tripling their kdr by being able to click a vehicle faster than others

[honest comet]

ppl having 4kdr and never played any normal gun is insane

they wait whole game to get into chopper

[quiet shell]

k

[fiery shoal]

i always liked looking at stats for vehicle abusers, most of them are average infantry players, get them in a vehicle and now they are going 5+kdr with insane kpms and spm

[honest comet]

yeah its been like that with every bf

[fiery shoal]

i get 2042 isnt a competitive game (compared to other fps titles), but some sort of consideration to balance would be nice

[honest comet]

issue is its same with all bf

[fiery shoal]

its like if csgo just let you get an awp if you clicked it faster than your teammates

[honest comet]

bf5 too op planes

bf4 too op coppers again bf3 choppers and so on

[fiery shoal]

i think bfv was the least bad about that, probably why bfv is my favorite

[honest comet]

idk but those dive bombers can wipe 6-7 ppl in one run lol

[chilly jacinth]

people can easily get 100+ kills in bf5 with the planes

[honest comet]

@chilly jacinth exactly

[fiery shoal]

yea launch with the ju88 was absurd

[honest comet]

yeah, so arial vehicles are always gods in bf

only thing to have high kdr is to learn to play them

and u look like pro

takes a gun, cant hit elephant in hallway lol

[placid echo]

The fliegerfaust really threw a fork in the plane balance for BFV

[fiery shoal]

that came pretty late though didnt it?

[rapid moon]

God i wish we had something similar in 2042

[placid echo]

Like chapter 4

[river trench]

Imagine how bf2042 would be like in season 4

[fiery shoal]

i personally dont see 2042 getting better enough for me to fully recommend it

it will always be a "pick up around sale and realize its not a traditional BF title"

[rapid moon]

I dont see it ever fully "blossoming" which makes me sad cause i truly think this game had a lot of potential

[fiery shoal]

id 100% prefer if 2042 got dropped as soon as possible and a new title was focused on .. just give us modern bfv damnit

[wise island]

Why won’t it give me my masteryyyy

[rapid moon]

Yeeeah this game is too deep to save now

Theres also some core stuff that they fucked up thats kinda impossible to change

[river trench]

Modern bfv? Or u ok ive never seen anyone in my life who likes this game

Maybe a bf4 remaster

[rapid moon]

I think youre misunderstanding him

[fiery shoal]

whats bad about bfv?

ill be surprised if you tell me something that ACTUALLY has to do with the game and not something like the bad trailer, what an exec said, or "ending support early"

[river trench]

@fiery shoal ive played bfv for 2 years and didnt see a single person who liked the game

[rapid moon]

Bfv was fun i liked it too

[fiery shoal]

and so did i, and was active in this server before launch, like i said, most of the complaints have nothing to do with the actual game. most people that actually played bfv say its good minus atmosphere

[rapid moon]

My only problem with the game was its setting

[river trench]

Just all the peaple trash talking about the game

[fiery shoal]

the trash talk wasnt about the actual game though...

[river trench]

Like bf 2042 now , im sure when the next game drop peaple will be again like "2042 was better " and similar stuff

[fiery shoal]

well yea that always happens, but again the complaints for bfv didnt have to do with the game

people complained about the robot arm woman, historical accuracy, execs saying "dont like dont buy", etc

[river trench]

For me bfv was good and enjoyed it but now its the first time i saw someone who like it

[fiery shoal]

[haughty raft]

BFVs full potential was shown when the pacific dropped but that was the last major update we ever got

[fiery shoal]

kind of weird some 4 maps is what people think what made bfv... the core mechanics were there from the beginning and good the whole time

and personally, the pacific maps arent even my favorite

[river trench]

Too late

[fiery shoal]

i will say 6.2 was my favorite timeframe for gunplay though

[arctic grove]

TOWs are one hit kills, you just need to be able to guide them

SOFLAM is really your best friend. I know when I’m getting locked onto by one, and as soon as that happens I’ve got like 4 lock-ons

Yeah, I want this too. I can’t understand why falck can use an M5

[fiery shoal]

imo just make locked loadouts with specialists locked as well... win win

[arctic grove]

I’d have no complaints if they just did that, and gave us more milsim skins, really

I’m pretty sure play-style is dependant on you

Specialists, easy remedy in my opinion

Maps
We will see if Kaleidoscope and Renewals changes serve as a basis for future design if they’re good

I’ve never really thought about the maps honestly, I’ve always redeployed to get closer to fights in all titles and luckily you’ve got the MAV and condour/superhind this game. But breakthrough is a lot more focused than conquest, so I also almost entirely play that when I play AOW

If I’m crossing open terrain and get sniped I’ll just grab a sniper

Sometimes snipers don’t change their position so ez headshot. If it’s a nightbird or bolte then that’s when I grab the funny SFARGL and M5/SOFLAM

They’re visually great maps but I’d be cool with them changing to welcome a better flow

[copper fulcrum]

Basically the only major update other than Firestorm, a game mode that got the least amount of full servers in the game's life-span

[mossy badge]

you hyped for mw2 ?

[river trench]

Not really

[mossy badge]

your profile picture is the logo of it that's why I asked

[river trench]

Yea its really good looking

[velvet sand]

Did you just ASSUME THEIR FANDOM? How dare.

[copper fulcrum]

2016 joke

[velvet sand]

So modern? I'm still stuck in the early 2000's : |

[mossy badge]

we still haven't seen it but I am really hyped for mw2

[arctic grove]

I wish I could upgrade my PC and properly play this game without stuttering, freezing and lagging

[velvet sand]

IIRC they've acknowledged it on Twitter a few days after the patch and said it would be fixed "in a future update" but that's as specific as they've been. Maybe in the "May Update" whenever that drops, if it even drops in May.

[haughty raft]

The split opinion between “air vehicles broken” and “air vehicles to easy to kill” is driving me insane

Like which is it?

[fiery shoal]

depends if youre talking to a pilot or infantry

[tacit sphinx]

i don't think i've ever died to a bolte in an air vehicle, certainly not instantly

[copper fulcrum]

Are you sure it wasn't a TOW Missile?

Yeah if you fucking hit with it

Not exactly easy to use a TOW Missile if the chopper is actually moving. Flares work on the missile launchers though

Okay.

[tacit sphinx]

again lol ive literally never died to a bolte in an aircraft and i play with them a reasonable amount

i think a few boltes tried using the rockets on me in a few matches when i was in a jet today possibly but you just flare when it says "missile incoming" lol

[copper fulcrum]

Maybe it's not that big of a problem.

[gray comet]

Ngl I forgot it was in game

[lone swallow]

yeah the missile launcher on the bolte is broken af because it legit one shots air vehicles so easily... Had it happen to me numerous times and it makes air vehicles unplayable sometimes

[edgy oriole]

ive only played a few games last week but it felt like i kept getting full lobbies. why boys playing all the sudden

[gray comet]

I kinda wish the SOFLAM could enter like a manual mode, where it’d fire the laser manually with Mouse1 and, if it were impacting a vehicle, your M5 Recoillesses could remain locked, through flares

[lone swallow]

you have to be regular or booster to share vids in the server i think @arctic grove

[gray comet]

Like a high skill high reward TOW alternative

[velvet sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EpRbXJ94iQ has some good examples of the bolte just free-firing missiles that instagib aircraft despite them blowing flares.

[gray comet]

Yeah those bolte missiles are BS, though if you react quick enough you can outturn them

Like the burst of 5 instalock stingers

Flares don’t always work, but low altitude and tight turns can. can.

Run ATGMs and ruin his day.

F-35 CAS players are based

How do I tag mods?

[lone swallow]

@slim quiver

[gray comet]

I feel like I should for that idk why

[lone swallow]

idk any other mods that are active so i just pinged miki instead

[lone swallow]

yeah i would have done that too

he's spamming it in a bunch of other text channels too

[half flower]

Did they/them really made this game?

[lone swallow]

i think dice is already aware of the issue with the bolte's missiles @arctic grove

[half flower]

They/them developers made this game?

[velvet sand]

They won't. They're not doing quick patches for critical issues. They're bundling things together to push out in singular "big" patches instead, so we just continue to wait on them to fix a bunch of broken shit.

[copper fulcrum]

Hi so broken, I'm dad.

[lone swallow]

^^^^

wow so funny

[fallen yarrow]

*should have

[half flower]

Thanks

[velvet sand]

I mean...I don't entirely disagree that their decision on how to update the game gives the appearance that they don't care, because it sure does lok that way.

[lone swallow]

bruh how many of these accounts are there

[fallen yarrow]

@arctic grove I wouldn't bother with any of that. DICE is not known to fix broken/over powered stuff in a reasonably time frame. Best you can do is abuse it and make more people mad so that it spreads the word

[velvet sand]

Could always just put the game on hold until DICE fixes it if you're mostly a pilot. Lame, but it's the least frustrating thing to do while waiting on DICE to pretend they have some sense of urgency to fix their busted game.

[copper fulcrum]

can roadkill 20 people
20 unaware people. Jeep can do this better, or hell, a truck
can kill a tank
If it gets up literally right next to an unaware tank
can one shot helis
It can evade that.

[velvet sand]

Bro, watch the video I linked, it's currently fairly busted. And Bolte is a trash vehicle period. It's garbage and awful and just annoying as fuck.

[lone swallow]

i dont think u can evade it unless you get really lucky

[velvet sand]

Link abive.

[copper fulcrum]

I'm a part of a platoon, I play with all types of players. Bolte is only really a problem due to how many of them can be on the field, really.

[fallen yarrow]

I'd argue that it was more annoying to fly at launch when flares were completely broken

But yeah, one-shotting vehicles is always cheese and shouldn't be in battlefield games given that vehicles are a restricted resource with a 90second + respawn timer

[empty canyon]

Arya whats your orgin name

[fallen yarrow]

Not to mention that the barrage missile doesnt even require much aiming since it's a lock-on. So no skill component either

[copper fulcrum]

Pretty sure the only real leaderboards that exist don't specifically show vehicle type used.

[empty canyon]

no record of that name bud

[fallen yarrow]

The sad part is, people will not support you unless it's a problem that directly affects them

[tacit sphinx]

with an unguided weapon it’s fine because that requires some skill and/or good timing but yeah

[last schooner]

Where are you pulling #1 from

[copper fulcrum]

He's #2 for vehicle kills

[empty canyon]

most kills in the world lol sure bud

[fallen yarrow]

Yeah, un guided single rocket with a travel time is skill-based (+ some luck), so that's fine

[copper fulcrum]

imagine complaining like this with your 24 kd

[tacit sphinx]

like it does sound like an issue and they’ve acknowledged it already, but considering i’ve never died to it and never seen anyone else complain or mention it really i feel like it’s not that prevalent lol

[fallen yarrow]

@copper fulcrum dont have anything to add to the conversation?

[copper fulcrum]

if this really is you lol

[tacit sphinx]

or maybe you just have to like exclusively play helis to die to it because it’s not that common

[haughty raft]

As an infantry only player I believe that air vehicles aren’t overpowered and they ARE very difficult to kill if the pilot is worth their salt

[empty canyon]

night bird players are legit the worst

[copper fulcrum]

Honestly, with the first month of people throwing their shit about "Air vehicles OP", I think there was just too many of them. Although that is kinda solved now

[empty canyon]

night bird is easy kills if they stick to just hitting ppl trying to move to another obj

[arctic grove]

https://youtu.be/gl2v6Yfo1qw

This made me want to redownload BF1

[fallen yarrow]

I play both infantry and vehicles, 90% of the playerbase cannot fly a plane/chopper for more than 2 min without crashing (let alone doing damage). This has been in all battlefield games that I've played (which is most of them).

[copper fulcrum]

laughs in Recoilless

[tall yew]

Honestly its best to just mute the complainers. My life has gotten much better since

[tacit sphinx]

the transport helis are a bit scuffed but that is largely due to the number of them you can have sometimes, just need some toning down on the cannons and armour

[copper fulcrum]

Dude the amount of vehicle players that just crash land a jet the moment they spawn is hilarious

[fallen yarrow]

Those are the infantry players

[copper fulcrum]

Yes

[haughty raft]

Agreed. I’m sad that more people don’t use Rao because he can control entire objectives

[fallen yarrow]

But yes, hilarious

[velvet sand]

That's me! But that's also why I will literally never pull an aircraft ever in a multiplayer game : |

[arctic grove]

So many times I’ll hop into my helicopters gunner seat just to finish off a couple guys in a spot, a squad mate spawns on me and face plants us

[haughty raft]

Someone just posted a link you should be fine

[tacit sphinx]

“oh boy can’t wait to paradrop from a transport aircraft and get a decent position on the objective!”
becomes unwilling kamikaze passenger

[copper fulcrum]

lol

[fallen yarrow]

Though BF2042 makes most players look like a noob because the air vehicle controls are activated even before the cut-scene animations end. So you can crash your plane by moving your mouse even before the view aligns correctly

[haughty raft]

That’s trash

[arctic grove]

It’s only up to peoples discretion wether or not they click the link.

But in case anyones cautious, the video I linked is a Steyr 9mm reload. Lol

[copper fulcrum]

Ain't that gun in BFV as well?

[haughty raft]

Which gun

[fallen yarrow]

Also, did they change the Nightbird's HUD/Aiming reticle?

[copper fulcrum]

It's positioned slightly but zooming in changes it back to center

[arctic grove]

“Does 9mm Steyr still fit in a 9x19 converted Steyr Hahn magazine?”

[haughty raft]

lol

[fallen yarrow]

This has happened so many times. There's no way to create and lock squads either....

[tacit sphinx]

it feels like in first person it’s shifted down on the screen/windshield but then i had noticed before that it seemed to be a bit high for where the bullets tended to actually go so that might be to remedy that

[haughty raft]

Sounds like a bug

[tacit sphinx]

not sure if it was mentioned in the patch notes

[fallen yarrow]

And there was no VoIP to even tell them....by the time you type it out and tell them to bail, you've crashed

[tacit sphinx]

i’m pretty sure it’s now more aligned with where your shots go than it was before the patch

[fallen yarrow]

@tacit sphinx I hadn't played since December and something felt off

I was pretty good with the miniguns before 4.0

[haughty raft]

lol 75% of my games today have been “******* pilot” in chat

[fallen yarrow]

Most of the battlefield player base hates pilots

[copper fulcrum]

Most infantry players hate vehicle players

[fallen yarrow]

Yeah, that's true. Most complain instead of getting into a vehicle themselves or working with other infantry players to take them out

[copper fulcrum]

Meanwhile, here I am as a Sundance with C5 >:D

[haughty raft]

I don’t. I’m dogshit at using vehicles so I can’t really complain. It takes a certain degree of skill

[fallen yarrow]

And it's almost an impossible job balancing power between infantry/vehicles

[tacit sphinx]

bruh we get it

[copper fulcrum]

It's almost as if vehicles made for warfare are made to kill infantry or other vehicles

[haughty raft]

Shhhhh don’t tell them the truth they can’t handle it

[fallen yarrow]

Jets in 2042 are designed only for killing other vehicles...so at least that's one less thing for infantry to worry about

[copper fulcrum]

"Bro, why this tank take rocket and kill many people?"

Perhaps it's a tank.

[velvet sand]

Almost like this is a videogame and consequently things need to be designed in a videogame to be fun, not reflective of reality.

[tacit sphinx]

they’re aware of the issue, they’re addressing it in a future patch, if it bothers you this much then maybe either give spamming helis or the game as a whole a break

[velvet sand]

Why can't I just walk up to a tank and drop a grenade in, killing everyone, and then steal it?

[copper fulcrum]

Balance

Tanks are rare, at least compared to infantry so it has to be strong to substitute

[fallen yarrow]

On the other hand, C5 drone combo is an overpowered no-risk/high-reward mechanic that should be removed

[copper fulcrum]

To be honest, with how big the drones are. They are a lot less overpowered

[arctic grove]

Does it seriously do that much damage to nightbirds?

[haughty raft]

If you asked a vehicle hater what would be a better way to balance vehicles they’d choke up

[fallen yarrow]

No, drones are extremely small (compared to MAVs in BF3/4) and the hitbox and animation is all wonky

[arctic grove]

Yeah I am, but I could’ve sworn it’s literally fodder vs attack helicopters

[haughty raft]

Are the Bolte missiles lock on?

[velvet sand]

Vehicle hater here: Buff vehicles. Make them stronger, but increase the cooldown and drop down the number you can pull at once. Vehicles should be super strong "objectives" that draw concentrated combat to try to take them out and shift the battlefield.

[fallen yarrow]

So the drones will be teleporting around on your screen and it's really hard to shoot down as infantry, let alone in a vehicle with limited vertical angles + turret rotation speed.

[velvet sand]

auto-lock, there's only the warning after they're fired I believe.

[arctic grove]

Personally don’t like the idea of shifting air and ground vehicles into ‘kill streak’ esque things

I’ve always liked the fact that it can be an entire play style in battlefield

[fallen yarrow]

@velvet sand the trouble with buffing vehicles and making them more limited is that it will favor good vehicle players a lot more. A good pilot will destroy a noob pilot and now you have to wait even longer to have a chance at fighting them again

[haughty raft]

Didn’t even have to type it out, this is a great point

[fallen yarrow]

All things need to be balanced from multiple perspectives and skill levels. Which is why balance needs to be an ongoing thing, and that's typically the case with MOST MULTIPLAYER games

[arctic grove]

They’re fine the way they are, they don’t have anything making them awfully difficult to fight if you get creative

[velvet sand]

It ain't a perfect fix, for sure, but IMO it promotes teamwork by actually forcing people to work together to take down vehicles and creates more "objectives" around the map with vehicles functioning as mini-objectives, helping address some of the problems with too much empty/wasted space on many maps.

[fallen yarrow]

DICE should be addressing balance issues every two weeks or every month at the latest. They overtune stuff once in 6 months and then disappear again

[haughty raft]

Yep

[tacit sphinx]

part of it is that ideally people need to work together as infantry to take out a vehicle threat, but it’s battlefield players so people don’t like doing that

[plucky pebble]

Why the game is perfect!

[velvet sand]

The 700 people at DICE (not all development staff, I know) can only do so much at once! There's no way they can bugfix AND balance. Or create new content AND bugfix. Apparently.

[arctic grove]

Pretty sure content was pushed back because DICE doesn’t want to be legally obligated to contribute resources to content yet. Not while the game still needed bug fixes

[fallen yarrow]

If I recall correctly, they even mentioned at launch of 2042 that they implemented new dev tools that lets them make balance changes much quicker with lower downtime

[restive saddle]

There are too many people who do care enough to say things like 'sniper OP plz nerf' and as such we have not had a decent sniper for a FPS in several years lol

[fallen yarrow]

Which was good, but apart from the few weekly patches during launch month...I haven't really seen much

[velvet sand]

They're obligated to deliver or refund the content. The delay was so they could spend time unfucking their deeply fucked game and making it remotely playable/enjoyable by the time they start turning on the monetization/cash shop.

[gray comet]

It’s also a PITA to fly. Super slow and extremely clunky with the 3 rotors.

I don’t know why, when you stop, it has to go the direction you last went before it can go the direction you want it to go now.

[tacit sphinx]

so then you either keep it as a team effort thing and people complain that vehicles are OP but won’t do anything to fight them, or you make them something a single infantry can fight easily and then more than like two people will absolutely decimate any vehicles

[arctic grove]

I mean you do realize the content in S1 will be free right

[gray comet]

That said, C5 drone makes sense but isnt fun for anyone

[haughty raft]

Be like me and use Rao. Hack top streamers and watch them panic and slam into the ground with their Nightbird

[velvet sand]

Yes? It's still when they're kicking off monetization of the game wish the battle pass, other cosmetic sales, and XP boosts etc.

[fallen yarrow]

With limited internal testing, there's no way they can account for all the variations in play style and skill level.... so they can't balance anything perfectly ever. But they should at least communicate/acknowledge issues and have a plan to address stuff in a timely manner.

[arctic grove]

Just don’t buy em, the battle pass only lets me get it first

But yeah that’s another way of saying what i just did. Pretty much DICE wanting to be able to contribute most resources towards the games stability before they get caught between that and year 1

Chances are we wouldn’t of had a 4.0 if Y1 began in March

[fallen yarrow]

C5 drone is only fun for the person abusing them. It's not fun if you get in a vehicle and instantly get blown up by them flying into you. They don't even need to manually trigger the C5. The abusers will use excuses that say 'dont camp in spawn then'...but this is BS since the spawn campers are already outside the range of the drone. The people that are affected are the ones using vehicles to help push points

[arctic grove]

C5 drones killed armor for me in this game, or when I do play I’m constantly stressing between that or a damn sundance flying behind me to pop my turret off

[fallen yarrow]

DICE acknowledge this last year and said they would remove the C5 from drones in January, 2022 btw

Ya, dealing with sundances flying into you with C5 every minute from across the map is painful enough already

[arctic grove]

It should be removed in the may update. We got confirmation around 4.0s release that would happen in a future hot fix or something

[plucky pebble]

COPIUM

[arctic grove]

They can easily take any type of air vehicle 500 meters up and then hop out, glide behind you while you’re totally oblivious and then you’re dead

[fallen yarrow]

I also think if DICE wants to keep the wingsuit in the game, it should be a gadget...not a specialist ability. It's currently overpowered when you can have wingsuit + explosives + unlimited grenades. Wingsuit itself is an extremely strong mobility tool (I think only jets are faster in travelling from point A to B)

[fallen yarrow]

Ya, and they can cover half the distance across hourglass in less than 30 seconds.

Also they have the same profile/looks as the floating garbage bags that DICE added

[velvet sand]

Well, flying Sundance is trash so that checks out.

[fallen yarrow]

Unfortunately I can't share links of clips. But I spawned into Hourglass and had 3 sundances fly into spawn trying to C5 me within 1 min 30 seconds of spawning

You kill them, move 10 meters forward and there's another one. There's no skill involved in flanking anymore when you can just fly directly from point A to B without any interruption and barely making any sound or having much of a visible profile

[arctic grove]

I mean while you could constantly drive it’s crazy how tanks struggle to perform as a force projection asset for infantry when you can fly from hourglasses skyscrapers to the stadium lol

[fallen yarrow]

I noticed this, and it was annoying

This was even more annoying

[arctic grove]

Hack warning should display under a lock on warning, or have a screen glitching effect so you know what’s about to happen

[haughty raft]

I thought hacking a vehicle gave them a glitch effect?

[fallen yarrow]

Yeah, if you're a pilot...just use the transports. They're stupid OP now. Don't know why DICE buffed them after they were already strong last patch

[arctic grove]

Yea, only once hacked though, I suggest a toned down version that subtly shows your vehicle being hacked

[fallen yarrow]

It does...disables their equipment, minimap, etc.

[plucky pebble]

Nah you are crazy even with the one that it has its stupid

[arctic grove]

They’re literally too damn strong in my opinion lmao, a transport vehicle is able to be more effective at both anti air and anti ground at the same time than the designated attack vehicles

[plucky pebble]

Its battlefield server so you expect everything bro

[haughty raft]

We need more AA options. A transport can take like 4-5 stinger shots

[plucky pebble]

Yeah but jets are dogshit sadge

[fallen yarrow]

They're clearly overpowered...there's no discussion to be had here. They can outrepair most damage from a single source...and they win against every single vehicle in the game outside of an AA with the dual 30mms at close range

[plucky pebble]

If hilarious cuz it feels like they never tried the game before

[fallen yarrow]

Yep, literally as easy as this. Leave the 40mm grenade launcher if you want...but let that only be effective at close range where the transports can easily be shot with rockets/tank shells

[velvet sand]

Considering DICE left the rooftop capture points up on Breakthrough...yeah I kinda question how much they even playtested the damn game pre-launch. Since that shit was obviously busted after literally 1-2 rounds, lol.

[fallen yarrow]

the dual miniguns already shred helicopters and planes

[arctic grove]

I have a clip of my condour pilot following a poor SU-57 as me and the other gunner were able to MG this dude at 400+ meters and I got the kill

[haughty raft]

Give attack helos TV missiles again lol

[fallen yarrow]

Condor has stupidly high mobility

[arctic grove]

Well it did although it feels heavier now, to be fair I clipped it before 4.0 I think

[fallen yarrow]

Every game I see the condors chasing the jets all around the map

[arctic grove]

That damn thing used to be able to pull immermans so easily

[fallen yarrow]

It's hilarious

[haughty raft]

Thank you for being an Apache main. I barely see attack helos anymore, dying breed.

Don’t… too soon.

[arctic grove]

It’s fun but Nightbirds make it painful sometimes

I don’t get why the nightbirds can also reach out to attacks from beyond their weapons ranges and do so much damage

[haughty raft]

I fucking LOVED being the gunner for an attack heli in 3 and 4. Thermal targeting. Being able to 1 shot an incoming jet or heli with a TV missile. Raining death on tanks and infantry, and now we have this ghetto attack heli in 2042

[fallen yarrow]

The Bolte was the new attack heli at launch

[arctic grove]

The vehicle balance shifted drastically in this game

It’ll probably be replaced by the RAH-66 Comanche

[fallen yarrow]

I'd like to see the Comanche in game

Hopefully with a stealth mechanic that hides them on the minimap and 3d spotting or something

[haughty raft]

Being a gunner is hard sometimes because I’ve noticed the mini map doesn’t indicate which direction you are looking

So it’s constant adjustments

[opal prism]

[fallen yarrow]

That technology doesn't exist in 2042

[arctic grove]

In all seriousness that’s a bug in 4.0 and it gets really disruptive

[fallen yarrow]

The only way to change metas is by frequent balancing...to make lesser used loadouts more viable instead of having one that does it all

[arctic grove]

You’ll be able to unlock it for free in the battle pass if it comes to the game

[haughty raft]

That’s dogshit

[fallen yarrow]

Despite some of it's flaws, I liked the specialization system in BFV for some of the vehicles. I felt enough of them were useful enough in their own situations

[arctic grove]

Wait… where are you pulling that from?

You’re probably talking about Premium era of battlefield

[fallen yarrow]

The concept of certain vehicles on certain maps only was in BFV as well

Though that might have had more to do with the theatre of war initially, and balancing reasons towards end of life

[haughty raft]

Yep corsairs and zeros were only in the pacific but yeah that’s probably because of the setting

[fallen yarrow]

I meant the 38t vs puma, on panzerstorm/provence etc. Initially 38t was available against the staghound on Panzerstorm...but then they swapped it when they swapped the UK for the US

[arctic grove]

Oh man if people saw zeros in Europe they’d be pissed

“unrealistic, game bad”

[haughty raft]

The Calliope lol

[fallen yarrow]

Nah, these infantry mains wouldnt be able to tell the difference

Even though the sounds were pretty well done in BFV

You could easily identify most planes and tanks from just the sound alone.

[radiant prism]

Yeah it was only ever theater based. When they released new vehicles that fit into a theater, they were made available on all maps in that theater.

[haughty raft]

Whenever I hear a condor in 2042 my mind immediately jumps to “where the fuck is the V1 coming from?”

[fallen yarrow]

You can be hiding in a bush and hear a tank on the other side of the wall and make the decision on whether to engage it or let it pass depending on what type of tank it was and how many explosives you had on you

[arctic grove]

2042 should add the SU57s iconic scream people hear when it flies overhead or nearby

[fallen yarrow]

Same if you were in a smaller tank and heard a Tiger approaching

Which reminds me how much I hate how weightless the vehicles in 2042 are...

[arctic grove]

Tanks sacrificed their weight and gave it to attack helis

[fallen yarrow]

Ah yes, in the name of balance

[arctic grove]

I hope they make it so I don’t have to stare at the pavement to go forward lol

[haughty raft]

Do you think that the F-35 having VTOL capability while the Sukhoi does not is a balancing issue?

[arctic grove]

No because the SU57 doesn’t even have that function itself anyway

But the F35 still can almost never compete

[fallen yarrow]

The bigger issue is that the Sukhoi can easily out turn it

[radiant prism]

Slightly..I wish the Su57 had VTOL too but in normal flight the Su57 has superior turning mobility. VTOL is incredibly situational anyways

[arctic grove]

I mean there is the Sukhoi Checkmate which looks like it’d function identically to the F35, the SU57 is basically russias F22

[fallen yarrow]

Sukhoi wins that match up 9.9 times out of 10 with equally skilled pilots. The F-35 can fluke it or buy extra time with VTOL amongst buildings on Hourglass or Kaleidoscope. But it's mostly a gimmick

[velvet sand]

Man, I'm desperately hoping DICE either adds and AFK-detection system or disables automatic requeing after every round in the next patch. Having a bunch of AFK players in your matches over and over is super duper not fun for a game that's 7 months post-launch.

[fallen yarrow]

Also the 30mm is incredibly inaccurate so you can't VTOL and use it against infantry either. You could use the 20mm, but it's not worth the risk since you're very likely to die to a rocket from one of the 30 enemies carrying one

[radiant prism]

I’ll send a clip here in a sec, got to do something but I have some clips of this

[arctic grove]

Worded it perfectly, the F35 with a strategic enough pilot can excel but literally only on those two maps, on renewal for example there is nothing to VTOL between to break line of sight so the US just gets decimated every time it’s on that nap

[fallen yarrow]

Ya, if you quit a round it still starts searching for one automatically too...

[arctic grove]

I’ve had breakthrough games where US is attacking and Russia has the air superiority because F35s can’t go anywhere to hide on renewal

[fallen yarrow]

Ya, no doubt that it's possible to pull it off. But it's not likely against a pilot of equal skill and one that's expecting you to use VTOL. I'm talking about it strictly from a balancing issue between the two planes

[velvet sand]

Deadbrained shit. It's been 7 bloody months, how hard is it to disable the forced automatic re-queueing after matches until they can build a basic AFK-detection/kick system.

[fallen yarrow]

On the other hand the KA-52 gets a pilot operated 30mm, but the AH-64 does not...which is also weird

[fallen yarrow]

While they're at it, remove the forced deployment at start of the round too please

[deep sail]

XD

[haughty raft]

This talk of vehicles made me wanna go play 2042. Now im at my desk and don’t wanna play LOL

[arctic grove]

I’m about to play in a little bit lol

[deep sail]

Have you guys tried the Vehicle TDM? If so , is it any good?

[fallen yarrow]

No, is it still on? I didn't see it anywhere in the game menus

[deep sail]

I saw it yesterday

[fallen yarrow]

Is it under Portal? I saw some 30s life, flashback conquest (which is decent) and normal TDM I think

Unless i mixed up the modes

[deep sail]

Yep,at portal

[radiant prism]

I mean in terms of dogfighting it’s never gonna work against a skilled pilot, but in terms of anti infantry it’s cool every once in a while but vulnerable

[velvet sand]

I'm just giggling that they said they removed the MAV from infantry only CQ but...didn't actually since it's still in there, lol.

[fallen yarrow]

Oh sure, I've personally used it once in a while against unaware vehicles. I've tried it a few times with the 30mm against infantry...but it's rage inducing

[deep sail]

Nice kills man

[radiant prism]

30mm is useless against infantry…but the 25mm is actually quite effective

[fallen yarrow]

This is cool. It's certainly do-able with the 25 mm. But I don't think it's possible with the 30mm

[fallen yarrow]

Yeah

[radiant prism]

Yeah, the 30mm is only useful against vehicles…but with that, its REALLY powerful. I use it on the Su-57

[gray comet]

Based CAS player

[fallen yarrow]

Unfortunately to unlock stuff on the jets you need to kill vehicles, so I run the 30mm with the ATGMs most of the time, also helps against transports

[gray comet]

25 is a million times more consistent than the 30

[radiant prism]

Honestly it’s a good way to balance it if you ask me. 30mm is strong against vehicles, 25 can be used for infantry but has a bit less oomph against vehicles

[fallen yarrow]

Sometimes the air vehicles have been designated with soflams, so ATGMs are generally better than heatseekers or active radars. Active radar is only useful situationally on the F-35 against Su if you can try and catch them unaware and score a mobility hit to finish them off.

[deep sail]

I think ntw. 50 needs a buff with the 2nd mag option..it's supposed to increase vehicle penetration and dmg against vehicles but I see no difference at all...

[fallen yarrow]

I think the 30s should have been balanced with ROF and overheat instead of making them COMPLETELY USELESS against infantry. You can't even hit them at 10-20m ranges. Even if you hit them, you just get hit markers....so it's frustrating. I'm fine with 25mms being more effective...but this is not the case of 30mm being less effective, it's completely useless (against infantry).

[radiant prism]

I think the 30mm is designed to make sure when you choose it, you’re going to focus solely on vehicles. Good balancer if you ask me, but difference of opinion

[fallen yarrow]

With the 25mm you dont even really need to hover...you can just strafe targets normally and get 1-2 kills per strafe

[safe verge]

hey fellas

[fallen yarrow]

I agree with the focus being anti-vehicle. I just am not of the opinion of it being completely useless outside of that purpose. It's like using APC vs HE on tank shells...and APC did no damage or 10 damage to infantry on a direct shot

[safe verge]

so happy to see more and more people flock to the war torn heavenly shores of battlefield 1

[fallen yarrow]

On the other hand, I hope to God that DICE doesn't add explosive rounds to the planes in the future

[gray comet]

Im glad I’m not the only one doing this tbh

[wooden pelican]

Anyone know when EA is fixing the persistence data error? They announced that all those errors are due to their servers but it's been months since anything was mentioned and it's a constant issue.

[night vessel]

it should be more easy when you unlock the 30mm cannon mate

I personally enjoy the SU more than the F35

[edgy oriole]

also teams are omega bad today.

[copper fulcrum]

I can only think of the Joker whenever I see your color palette

[gray comet]

Su-57 is nice but VTOL and slower flight speed are a godsend for air to ground

[gloomy wyvern]

@gray comet if only the soflam increased lock range 😒

[gray comet]

Or damage.

Rather than just being…flare/Friendly RPG bait

[weak totem]

when is season 1 dropping

[gray comet]

“Early summer”

[weak totem]

totally trust that date💀

[haughty raft]

More like September 20th

[real ether]

I just fell through the ground

[arctic grove]

Next year

Man i didn't expect their live service to be this garbage

Bring back premium ffs

I genuinely genuinely genuinely regret getting the ultimate edition

This is a $20 early access game

What happened @tall stone

[haughty raft]

Corporate greed. The golden days of FPS are over

[gloomy wyvern]

2042

[fervent grotto]

Tbh your right

[lyric solar]

The green and purple looks cool

[fervent grotto]

Yea I just don’t change the colors cus I can’t settle on one I like best

[tacit cliff]

"We rely on your feedback to let us know if these changes help to improve things, so please do share your feedback on these changes over on the Battlefield Forums."

No you fucking didnt, you did the opposite of what we asked for. Trash game I cant even get a round in with your fucking BR server search system to find servers.

Dumb as fuck

Meanwhile stratford and total fps just show us more shit playlists, and snow map gun skins.

yeah that's exactly what we wanted.

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bwOIk.gif

[grizzled whale]

What did they do thats the opposite of what we asked for?

[hexed mango]

we got snow skins

[grizzled whale]

In contrast to the lava skin the community wanted?

[hexed mango]

fortnite momento

[grizzled whale]

default dances

[hexed mango]

bro is a skin-like don't make a big deal of it either way

so sad rip game we got a snow skin time to go grab a pitchfork and yell at the community managers

[arctic grove]

"We rely on your feedback to let us know if these changes help to improve things, so please do share your feedback on these changes over on the Battlefield Forums."

No you fucking didnt, you did the opposite of what we asked for. Trash game I cant even get a round in with your fucking BR server search system to find servers.

Dumb as fuck

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/baZaQ.gif

[radiant prism]

Full of PILK

[worthy inlet]

[clear quail]

wut tha

[velvet sand]

lol, mavs still in infantry only mode

[radiant prism]

A meme I managed to destroy an entire lobby with

It got stuck in my head so I started typing about pilk in chat for an entire breakthrough game and everyone just spontaneously went along with it

Good times

[clear quail]

battlefield moments

[hot folio]

someone send a gif and then put s/e/x

the lore is insane and it will work

[worthy inlet]

[arctic grove]

Can we get a shill check?

[grizzled whale]

Check

[clear quail]

check

[tepid agate]

I got try infantry conquest and just get a server with 2 people ☹️ why can't they add bots to all servers to make the game stable

[simple merlin]

Check

[shy latch]

yo guys, did someone discovered what type of gun (?) is the second one appearing on the official Portal Trailer video?

[low timber]

The pistol? That’s the Bad Company 2 tracer dart gun.

Shoot it at a vehicle (or infantry) and they can then be locked-on, same like Soflam.

[shy latch]

oh ok, is it actually there on Portal? which bc2 class has it?

[forest snow]

any class i believe, just select it by changing your sidearm

[shy latch]

aah so it'll replace the sidearm, I thought it was a gadget

ok thank you for the info

[forest snow]

no in bad company 2 it was a sidearm, tbh may aswell always use it as most of the pistols are bad.

[arctic grove]

The next few minutes determine if I continue to my EA play membership for 2042, or if I just buy the game...wish the game luck.

[crimson basin]

any chance they will release the feedback loop this week?

[thick sandal]

i think my dad will be back with the milk as soon as this game drop the season 1

[arctic grove]

I didn't know BF2042 was an OPEN WORLD game..The maps are literally OPEN.

[full burrow]

wow conquest 128 feels really bad

ive only been playing 64 and still not the best (especially kolaidoscope) but wow

[arctic grove]

Well, my trial is up. BF2042 didn't make the cut. RIP.

[eternal storm]

Content when

[hot bronze]

Well new content should drop in June/July in season one. At least that's the early summer timeline they gave. Though we will see the normal monthly updates to balance and small additions. No hint on the May update drop. some hope for this weekend but I'm guessing next week or the following, as they like too drop the updates early in a week to make room for hotfixs if something goes wrong.

[lyric locust]

i love this update, all heli only scrubs getting what they deserve

[rain basin]

What is that thing in the middle?

[radiant prism]

Pilk

Pepsi+Milk

[rain basin]

Ew

[hot bronze]

lol as a infantry player I am obligated to agree. Though It dont hate those players, they are just misguided.

helis have always had a place in BF but 2042's map design sucks for countering them. in past games there was good routes to take to if you ran a non AA load out but now it either you are at their mercy or you focus AA.

[hot bronze]

just dont think about it. life is better knowing that doesnt exist

[grizzled whale]

"gamebreaking bug" wah wah my OP helicopter gets shot down so now i cant hunt infantry that cant really do much against me so now i cant play wah

[rain basin]

It exists, on the internet.

[hot bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-safeinsidemymind-patrickstar-copycat-patrick-gif-21652587

Edit: Im not surprised they have gifs turned off

[grizzled whale]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-safeinsidemymind-patrickstar-copycat-patrick-gif-21652587

rekt

[hot bronze]

Thank you for looking out.

[hot bronze]

Your right with them being OP. They need to converge the mini guns on the nightbird and remove the rocket pod meta (Maybe increase vehicle damage and lower infantry splash damage). It would raise the skill ceiling while nerfing the casual pilot. kinda Like in BF4.

Right now they can strafe full speed while spamming rockets as they dont need to be that accurate.

[grizzled whale]

and make them pick between either miniguns or rockets

[loud flower]

@fervent grotto how long you been playing CoD ?

[fervent grotto]

Maybe they should just give he little bird one of those 30mm ventral cannons from BFV.

[hot bronze]

Maybe something like

Primary:
Miniguns(infantry Focus with light damage to light armor),
20mm (Balanced splash damage)
Rockets pods (Vehicle focus with reduced splash damage)

Secondary: AA or AT Lock on missiles (Like the attack Heli)

[fervent grotto]

Not very long tbh. Since black ops 4. But I’ve played others before it.

Like I went back and tried older ones

[crisp junco]

No more heli aa missiles
Thats already cancer enough

[hot bronze]

you know what. I like it.

[loud flower]

One of the thing that especially suck is the max range of AA launchers
350m top, same range for the portable MANPADS or the EBAA Wildcat which makes no sense, you'd think that with missiles 5 times bigger, you'd get more range

[fervent grotto]

Hey if the mosquito can have it why can’t the little bird

[loud flower]

That's actually quite the coincidence, I also started playing CoD with BO4

[loud flower]

I only did the campaign of the remastered MWs

[grizzled whale]

yall started at one of the worst cods

[loud flower]

Ikr
I was literally in physical pain during my entire BO4 career

[radiant prism]

I only ever really played BO4 zombies

And I decently enjoyed it, but ultimately I've stuck with BO3 zombies

[grizzled whale]

i grinded my ass off with bo4 zombies only to get banned

[radiant prism]

I recently finally completed the super easter egg for BO3 zombies

[fervent grotto]

I also bought MW2 remaster campaign. But I went back and played the actual MW3 campaign. I also played a little bit of the first mw campaign. I have played a little infinite warfare and ghost multiplayer

[grizzled whale]

7 master prestige in the world, was first in the race to MP1000, then the top 15 players got banned, we dont know why but most likely because activision is incompetent and thought we were hacking because we were master prestige 500+ 2 months after launch

[fervent grotto]

Naw I had fun tbh. Probably because. I was like a lost puppy and didn’t even know that prestiging existed

[radiant prism]

Infinite Warfare has my favorite campaign in the franchise personally

[hot bronze]

They really need something like a short range Stinger (fire and forget) and Long range (active lock)

[loud flower]

I played BO4, got wrecked left and right, literally hated the game with my soul but still came back to it because CoD is weirdly addictive, even when bad

Then I played MW Beta

It was disgustingly good, I had an absolute blast even when I was bad
Ever since, I improved a hell of a lot but damn was it like night and day

[radiant prism]

Don't get me started on MW2019

[fervent grotto]

Oh yea I went back to play bo4 and I got shit on. I’m not use to the long ttk. I’m cracked at mw tho ngl. My k/d sucks ass because I grinded Damascus

[loud flower]

Active lock long range would be a massive pain since all the maps have too much relief and/or cover/building to have a direct line of sight
I can count like, 2-3 maps that have clear sight but those spots are on the outer edges of maps or very exposed

[radiant prism]

I think its really overrated. Not bad, but damn I think people give that game way too much credit IMO

[grizzled whale]

Iw had an amazing campaign

[fervent grotto]

Now I’m working on Cold War dark matter. Super close

[grizzled whale]

too bad zombies and MP was absolute garbage

[tacit sphinx]

it has a couple of nice things like gunsmith which has then expanded into a bunch of shooters and it had some nice shiny graphics but yeah ultimately it’s just CoD gameplay loop on mediocre maps

[fervent grotto]

Zombies and Mp on Cold War are good imo

[loud flower]

My KD is like, just sub 1 but I grinded every single operator challenge, and I shit you not, aside of like 3-4 exceptions, I have all obtainable blueprints of the game (free ones of course)

Some challenges were like straight up impossible but I found a way

[grizzled whale]

CW zombies: great
CW MP: huuuuge downgrade of MW

[fervent grotto]

I’m a person who’s never played zombies before Cold War and it was actually easy to understand but hard to get good at

[radiant prism]

I've always considered CW to just be a wholly watered down MW2019

[grizzled whale]

it is

[grizzled whale]

CW zombies is indeed very easy, without much practice you can easily do a round 100 on any map

[radiant prism]

Its literally got every mechanic from MW, but worse or not as good in some way

[grizzled whale]

good luck with that on bo3

[radiant prism]

I've had a tough time with that on CW, tbh. I'm still much better at BO3 zombies

[grizzled whale]

just like vanguard

[tacit sphinx]

the gunsmith seemed really weirdly done

[radiant prism]

And I won't be shocked if MW2 is just as underwhelming

[fervent grotto]

Not really. Round 100 is still a complete other realm for me lmao. Only way I know how to is to camp with an m79 and phd

[tacit sphinx]

like you changed something and it had a random effect elsewhere on the gun

[fervent grotto]

I’ve had lots of fun on Cold War mp. But god damn kills behind cover make me so bored

I’ll play cod if it’s good or bad idc. I just enjoy cod.

[grizzled whale]

i managed to do 100+ on every first time on every map, on previous games that would take some time

[fervent grotto]

Well good for you. But it had a lot of replay ability (ESPECIALLY forsaken.) and it was fun

[grizzled whale]

have you upgraded everything to the max yet?

[fervent grotto]

I’m just waiting for MW2 so I can grind whatever mastery camo that game has for mp

[hot bronze]

Thats always been the case really. That's where soflaming helps. They could also make it lock faster and be able to relock as long as there is line of sight and the missle is still active. thats what they did with the Igla and javelin in BF4

[radiant prism]

Call me a BO3 elitist but I will still stand by Der Eisendrache being the best map in the franchise

[fervent grotto]

Nope. I’ve spent most of my time on mp. Tho I do have lots of things upgraded

[grizzled whale]

ah

[fervent grotto]

I’m going to get dark matter. I stg there’s no way I don’t

Then I guess I go for atomic camo.

[loud flower]

The only blueprints I don't have are either the one you get when you get three stars on all survival maps, the two first tournament rewards and one twitch drop (or CDL view drop, idk)

[loud flower]

I grinded a heck of a lot on it, did a decent bit of grind but eventually gave up cuz it was boring

I have Damascus, Dark Matter Ultra and I'm on my way to Atomic on Vanguard but really not that interested about aggressively grinding it

[tacit sphinx]

atomic looks like a zapp lolly

[fervent grotto]

I have Damascus and I’m currently working for dark matter. I need 9 behind cover kills on the dmr and then I need to grind the m16 and type 63. I’m skipping the AUG

[fervent grotto]

Kind of. But I think fruit roll up camo fits it much better

[spring locust]

Oh jeez what cod are guys talking about

[loud flower]

You gotta do the AUG tho

Unless you did the CARV.2 ?

[radiant prism]

like all of them pretty much

[loud flower]

Mostly the ones since BO4

So the reboot actually

[radiant prism]

ye, but not any one specifically

[spring locust]

Ah, I fell off after Black Ops 2

[radiant prism]

I mean I pretty much play BO3

[loud flower]

Yeah but that cuts off to a pretty narrow amount of games from the entire franchise

[radiant prism]

Ok fair lol

[spring locust]

I got more into the bf games around the time black ops 3 came out

Black Ops 3 is a cheaters playground from what I hear

[sturdy patrol]

Bo3 on pc is for zombies only as there are workshop maps

It's so good, probably best bo zombies ever

[radiant prism]

Yeah, I don't play BO3 MP. I just play Zombies

[fervent grotto]

I did the CARV

[sturdy patrol]

Same here

[radiant prism]

I recently completed all the easter eggs with some friends

[spring locust]

I had steam but my computer doesnt turn on anymore, its corpse has been here since august

[sturdy patrol]

F

[spring locust]

Im on console till I can afford a new one

[fervent grotto]

Rip to you. That happened with my switch. It doesn’t charge or turn on and I haven’t figured what to do with it yet

[spring locust]

Rip your switch, switch is great but has some crappy ports. Civ 6 works only when it wants to on switch

Then again all the games are essentially 30fps

[fervent grotto]

I just liked to play Pokémon sword every once in a while

[spring locust]

I didnt get the new pokemon games yet but I play a lot of civ and tetris 99

Is there a way to play the defending team in a breakthrough with bots or am I stuck only attacking? Trying to farm the sentry trophy

[radiant prism]

Its pretty much down to chance. You just randomly get matched onto one team or the other

[spring locust]

Gotcha thanks, wasnt sure. My last three games were attacking

[radiant prism]

Yeah its pretty much 50/50 on paper

[spring locust]

Well ill keep my fingers crossed

[radiant prism]

If it helps, you can tell what team you'll be on when you're matching, the attacking faction is consistent for every map. Like on Breakaway for example, US will always attack and RU will always defend

[foggy halo]

[spring locust]

Thank you, i noted that for future grinding

[tacit sphinx]

i’m pretty sure in coop you’re always attacking in breakthrough

i’ve never played a match on defense, idk if it’s just some wacky statistics but i would assume it’s intentionally like that

[jovial quest]

We wait for Alex

[radiant prism]

Where alex

🐒

[spring locust]

Ah so would I have a better time grinding it on coop conquest

[radiant prism]

Probably not, pretty sure progression is disabled for solo/coop

[mental delta]

Who is Alex ?

[mental delta]

It is not

[radiant prism]

A weapon designer at DICE who is active in chat every so often

[jovial quest]

He chill

[spring locust]

Im not grinding exp im just grinding a trophy in game. Its inflict damage with the sentry in one game

[mental delta]

Ok

[tacit sphinx]

i don’t think system trophies can be earned in coop? i’m not sure though because i think i got a roadkill trophy in it

but then something else i tried didn’t track

[spring locust]

I got five trophies in coop last week

[jovial quest]

Yea they can

[tacit sphinx]

huh

[radiant prism]

Oh ok well I stand corrected then

[jovial quest]

I did a bunch, it’s dumb af

[tacit sphinx]

yeah in that case you could try doing it in conquest

tbf some of the trophies are a pain to do normally

[spring locust]

I know man, the 20 melee kills and headshots was way easier in coop

[tacit sphinx]

even like the 3000 heals in a match as falck one, like that’s a lot of healing and i’ve done some pretty heavy matches

especially as it needs to be with the pistol specifically

[spring locust]

I havnt even attempted that one yet but ill get to it eventually. Im trying to get the platinum for 2042 for some reason

Im at 67% currently

[tacit sphinx]

same lol

apparently i need to play some more conquest for the 100 objectives captured, then it’s mostly hazard zone lol

[spring locust]

Yeah I try playing hazard zone here and there but the games never start

[tacit sphinx]

it’s annoying because it is a neat mode and there’s a bunch of stuff like trophies and some player card images locked behind it lol

[spring locust]

Like the games take too long to fill so its an endless circle of waiting and it closing because it didn’t find enough players

[tacit sphinx]

if the player count picks up a bit when content starts flowing it might get a few matches back up for a bit

[spring locust]

Fingers Crossed

[fervent grotto]

I just want to have good content and maps that aren’t half wide open fields

[forest snow]

Least we should be hearing about the next update in the next few days

[next onyx]

You can earn them funnily enough, In that and portal. Smashed a bunch of bots in a heli.

[vocal adder]

haven't played 2042 yet since December but is them cringey voice lines still in in the game

[arctic grove]

Man, the one time I fire the game up in legit months it doesn't work 🤣 uninstalled

[humble bobcat]

servers offline?

[vocal adder]

Sure your graphic drivers and that up to date some games don't like it when your not on up to date drivers 🤣

[arctic grove]

You ever played Hunt: Showdown? Or Tarkov?

Hazard zone sucks HARD in comparison

[vocal adder]

Hazard zone should be scrapped tbh

[radiant prism]

I don't mind hazard zone existing...just doesn't mean I'll be playing it much. I've been having plenty of fun with the main MP

[near hare]

if you are comparing hazard zone to tarkov lmao thats a yikes

[arctic grove]

Why is that yikes when they used tarkov (loosely) as inspiration

[near hare]

it is nothing like tarkov lol.

[radiant prism]

Tarkov comparisons came entirely from the community lmao. It was never meant to be a rival mode

[arctic grove]

Fine, drop that - stick with my hunt analogy if it bothers you that much

Either way, Hazard zone sucks - its a half baked game mode with nothing original

[idle yacht]

the extraction part is the only thing remotely like tarkov lol

[near hare]

yep, and that doesnt even come close to comparing it to it haha.

i cant speak much on hunt showdown because ive never played it or watched gameplay

[idle yacht]

im having no issues finding a game in 2042 but my teammates always seem to have a negative iq. i dont think dice have a fix for this anytime soon right?

[radiant prism]

Next update is actually slated to buff global IQ by 20 points

[idle yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-wow-yay-omg-really-gif-15731645

[arctic grove]

Hunt is where they took direct inspiration for the mode - and hunt does it infinitely better in every way

Amazing game

[vocal adder]

i liked hunt showdown but it lost its horror feeling imo

[radiant prism]

There's similarities to be drawn...but it was never a "direct inspiration".

[arctic grove]

It clearly was

[radiant prism]

There's only so many ways to do that kind of mode. Similarity =/= inspiration

[arctic grove]

And that's all it got compared to when it was announced

[radiant prism]

By the community, not the devs. Once again, no indication of direct inspiration besides some gameplay similarities

Was Halo directly inspired by CoD or vice versa, since they're both arena shooters?

[arctic grove]

And that's enough to draw conclusions - man I hate discord, just arguing for the sake of it now

[arctic grove]

Youre just being ridiculous now

[radiant prism]

I'm using your logic here, far as I can tell

[arctic grove]

Okay kid

[radiant prism]

I do see what you mean, I just am not convinced it was "directly inspired" just because it happened to be a somewhat similar mode

Frankly I don't even play hazard zone nor do I care much for it

[next onyx]

I forget hazard zone is a thing until it's mentioned or I accidentally open it.

[idle yacht]

you lost the small amount of respect you had when you said 'kid'

[arctic grove]

You keep wasting your time dude, im out

Hazard zone sucks, it was a rip off of existing games

[vocal adder]

then don't play the mode lmao

[arctic grove]

Like I asked for your respect 🤣 trolls and time wasters

[radiant prism]

exactly lmao. Like I said, I don't even play it

[idle yacht]

says the guy arguing over a mode that none of us care about and using 'kid' like its supposed to insult us lmao

[radiant prism]

"Kid" like he's any older than 16

[arctic grove]

"Us" you included yourself there

I used the work "kid", not even in your direction and you freaked out

Which kind of says it all

Bye

[molten ferry]

Anyone else struggling to get on?

[idle yacht]

i said one thing and you thing thats 'freaking out' lol

what you said was cringey, it doesnt matter if it was directed at me or not its still justy as cringe

[idle yacht]

im playing now

[next onyx]

Probably best to stop now.

[grand prism]

Wait what's going on

[next onyx]

If he comes back just give us a yell over modmail.

Just drama. Nothing new for this channel.

[grand prism]

Oh ok

[timber cradle]

Okay I bought this. Did I waste my money or is this game good?

[radiant prism]

Play it and find out for yourself

[idle yacht]

I like it

[steep skiff]

Has the game been fixed yet?

[idle yacht]

the new update basically got it to the point it shouldve been when it launched

its okay now, but it just needs more content which should come with season 1 in the next 2-3 months

my team always just camps though so i basically lose every game. no one bothers capturing and it is so infuriating

[timber cradle]

If I can’t get 30 medkit ribbons like I could in BF4 I’m gonna be sad

Here’s to being the best damn medic a team could ask for

[idle yacht]

thats what i do too haha, the only tier 1 skin i have is Falk because i am a diehard medic

its the way to win;)

[next onyx]

I main Mackay since he just feels the best.

Grappling hook gets me where I need and hit gun skill just helps so much.

[honest comet]

is 2042 server down?

[radiant prism]

I can use whatever specialist, but my best gun is far and away the AK-24

I just get so many kills with it and I don't know why

[idle yacht]

no

[radiant prism]

But I perform better with it than any other gun

[honest comet]

ah nvm its my internet lol

[next onyx]

Good velocity and stuff really.

[radiant prism]

The stopping power is what's been great for me

[next onyx]

I'd play other specialists but Mackay literally cuts down travel time by 60%. Eliminates the dangers of ladders since everyone watches them.

Ironically the ak24 is pretty much the stg 1-5 with 20 less rpm.

It's a really solid gun.

I like using it and the m5 though. They're both just good guns.

Wrapped suppressor should be your go to though since less damage range hurts those guns massively.

[radiant prism]

The M5 has been a bit of a hitmarker machine for me, dunno why but it just doesn't drop enemies like I'd want it to

[next onyx]

Close combat changes the damage model to 25 and ups the rpm with slower velocity.

[timber cradle]

Okay it’s alright. Does 2042 have teams? If so anyone looking for a medic? A medic that actually plays the objectives and revives people?

[next onyx]

You mean clans?

[timber cradle]

Yea sorry

[next onyx]

If so, No. We don't why they aren't in but they just aren't.

[timber cradle]

Awe

[next onyx]

But you can always search for people at least.

So that's great.

[timber cradle]

That kinda made everything so much better tho

[next onyx]

Yeah clans were cool.

If you want to look for people man check our LFG section.

[timber cradle]

My games in bf4 looked like 4 kills….7 deaths……12k points

20 ish medkit ribbons was normal lol

[next onyx]

I just get tonnes of points and kills cause objective play.

Kill everyone for double xp.

Loved bf5 cause of that.

[radiant prism]

I think I just do better with high stopping power, lower ROF weapons

[next onyx]

200 to 250 points per kill plus bonuses in an objective.

[idle yacht]

in BFV i was tempted to change my username to Desmond Doss and just not use any weapons and only heal/revive xD thought it would be fun

[radiant prism]

The AK-24 and PP-29 have been my go-tos

[next onyx]

If they make the SCAR with high impact good I'd definitely main that.

[radiant prism]

And the SFAR-M, for that matter

Well...uhh you're bad lol

I do love the K30 as well though

[next onyx]

Just makes no sense that an assault rifle has a worse damage model than a submachine gun.

Mp9 is nice.

I'm up to the PBX but I keep on getting outgunned. It's alright when you hit people with it but you'll literally get outgunned by vectors.

[radiant prism]

MP9 was one of my first T1s

[next onyx]

Nvm the abhorrent amount of armour abuse.

It didn't stick to me for some reason.

But since turning ADS FOV on its been working much better.

I might give fusion holo another try on the AK.

[tacit sphinx]

the tv 2x works alright on the ak in my experience

[radiant prism]

Is that the OKP-7 derivative?

[next onyx]

I have no idea.

[tacit sphinx]

i wish more guns had access to the XO smart 2x, it's only on like the bizon, vector and ac42

[tacit sphinx]

nah the fusion holo is just like the standard low profile red dot

[next onyx]

The one sight that was comfy on the AK was the hybrids top rds.

That carried me.

Just wish the ADS speeds for it weren't so slow.

[tacit sphinx]

the k8 holo is the okp

[radiant prism]

I don't even run a proper grip on the AK, I just use the grenade launcher

[radiant prism]

Got it. That's the sight I use on the AK

[next onyx]

I always run the straight grip with the AP launcher for vehicles.

[tacit sphinx]

it does have the best grenade launcher, i've switched to the bcg grip primarily though

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind them buffing long barrel to just being a heavy barrel.

[radiant prism]

I use the AP launcher, INC launcher, and masterkey. No grip needed

[next onyx]

Increased recoil but reduced spread and faster velocity.

Though I think the match rounds had faster velocities?

Long barrel feels eh on anything that isn't a ranged semi.

[radiant prism]

I only run the long barrel on the LCMG as a backup incase I need to fire at extreme range

[next onyx]

I just do short barrel with standard rounds cause of the damage range.

[tacit sphinx]

it doesnt make a ton of sense for heavy barrel to increase recoil directly, i think reduced fire rate and increase velocity is a nice route and you do get some recoil reduction by way of the fire rate being lower

[next onyx]

Yeah heavy barrel doesn't make any sense. It was acknowledged in hardline. Was a straight bonus except it reduced your movement speed by a bit.

[shrewd rune]

Battlefield 2042 server are down right now correct?

[next onyx]

Increased accuracy, slightly reduced recoil but slightly reduced mobility.

[tacit sphinx]

extended barrel + high power rounds is a cool build for automatics, takes the fire rate way down by a lot

[next onyx]

They should be up.

[shrewd rune]

Just try connecting on the ps5 isn’t letting me get on try it twice

[tacit sphinx]

i meant this, with how guns work a heavy/extended barrel wouldn't really increase recoil and is generally more likely to reduce its effect because you have more weight pulling down

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind dealing with extra recoil if it meant I could beam people and not suffer an rpm drop. Cause as nice as the velocity boost is, in my experience it's just as easy to use a muzzle brake with the increased likely chance to hit .

[honest comet]

im on ps5 and server is up

just restart ps5 @shrewd rune

[shrewd rune]

I try

[next onyx]

Yeah I'm vividly aware.

I just think in a balancing situation it's the tried and true route.

If there were movement speed penalties I'd mostly go the hardline route.

Would be cool if we could use the bf3 foregrip in 2042.

[vale hinge]

first game of hazard zone: squad where I'm all alone

[next onyx]

Reduces vertical recoil but increases hip fire spread.

[shrewd rune]

Nah isn’t letting me connect just restarted ps5 a min ago

[vale hinge]

second game of hazard zone: squad with 1 other player

[fossil flax]

2042 dead

[vale hinge]

third game of hazard zone: squad with 2 other players

[fossil flax]

Keep smoking that copium

[vale hinge]

how hard can it be possibly be to make sure every squad is full

[delicate laurel]

Same

[tiny imp]

Did they removed ads below AoW, Hazard zone, and Portal menu? Or is just me?
https://i.gyazo.com/2d992da3a8ef76c9e9f1c1b0fd7e31e1.jpg

[tacit sphinx]

is it the persistence data error? when i tried to log in probably half an hour/45 mins ago i got hit with that a couple of times (ps4), i restarted the game and tried again like twice and it worked

[tacit sphinx]

just you i think, they might not have loaded or something

[delicate laurel]

Just got in now @shrewd rune Just wait a while

[shrewd rune]

If I can show the picture it would be ten times more easier to let you guys know how to deal with it but popping up with a error code 1:3300J:4688822970: 100J:504E

[shrewd rune]

Probably what I got to do right now

[tacit sphinx]

yeah idk what any error codes mean lol

[shrewd rune]

Me neither haha but probably one of them where you gotta wait for the servers to allow you to play cause of to many people on it or something like that

[limpid kindle]

Do we have an ETA for season 1?

[delicate laurel]

No

[limpid kindle]

hm ok

[delicate laurel]

June maybe idk

[radiant prism]

June has been what's going around yeah

[tacit sphinx]

june boom etc

[radiant prism]

lol

[tacit sphinx]

would be a funny way of announcing it but i don't think it would go very well

[radiant prism]

Ok, but is there realistically any way of announcing it that is gonna go well, considering this community?

[tacit sphinx]

oh this is the persistence data error code because i just got it, yeah basically just wait and try again a couple of times

[shrewd rune]

Ah okay cheers

[tacit sphinx]

true lol, but i think as far as they go that might be a particularly poorly received announcement

[radiant prism]

Remember the BFV Chapter 5 trailer, one of the best received trailers in that game? People still bitched about the katana part and half of the trailer in general

Fuck I'm getting pissed again

Everyone's always like "Man, AAA gaming sucks right now, its so shitty" like the global communities aren't just as toxic and make things 10x worse

[timber cradle]

So first online game

[next onyx]

Must of been over in reddit cause I swear I don't not remember people complaining over the Katana.

[tacit sphinx]

SVK with the ghost hybrid works so nicely i think they changed it in 4.0 to be 4/1.5x instead of 2.5/1.5 as the name suggests, it's a much nicer reticle than the 4.0 scope imo

[timber cradle]

I’m not impressed tbh…looks like a sentry gun spam game tbh

I destroyed more sentry guns then I killed people

[tacit sphinx]

works well on the gvt as well, kind of ideal for the slower, more precise marksman rifles

[radiant prism]

Its one of the wider talked about problems tbh, but its been minor IMO.

[next onyx]

One of the things that actually really annoyed me with a bf5 trailer was when they were finally bringing out tank bodies when one of them came up saying "Coming soon" which for the time hit me at a bad angle.

[radiant prism]

Its a recent issue

[next onyx]

Oh yeah I can imagine that Dr.

Ghost hybrid do be kinda comfy.

[timber cradle]

I did unlock a robot dog which is cool

[next onyx]

Fuck boris and that stupid sentry gun. Actually annoying.

[radiant prism]

I wouldn't mind boris so much if I got kills with my sentries as much as I got killed by them

But yeah I'd imagine boris gets nerfed soon

[next onyx]

Ghost hybrid is a bit awkward cause straight scope but not a scope.

I wouldn't mind it if the sentry prioritised vehicles and starting shooting them or some annoying thing.

[radiant prism]

I think it just needs less health and a tad less damage

[next onyx]

The 3x and raven 4x are kinds nice. Though when i use close combat on it fusion holo for turner SMLE.

The hitbox is shit too.

It's really easy to miss in between the gaps.

[tacit sphinx]

the main thing for me would be toning down how much of a buff the gun gets when he's in the immediate area, it goes from kinda mild annoyance that you can pretty much avoid by just walking perpendicular to it to basically a guy with a machine gun

[radiant prism]

Yeah, its definitely gotten stronger recently too

[next onyx]

I wouldn't be surprised if they've been stealth nerfing it so the Boris mains can actually get a kill without doing anything.

Not stealth nerfing.

I'm so used to saying that.

Stealth buffing.

[fervent grotto]

Ok so someone tell me why they went back to the select upgrades on vehicles instead of using the tech trees. The tech trees in BFV are awesome

[radiant prism]

A lot of people got upset that the upgrade trees in BFV were flat upgrades that made fights blatantly unfair against players using base-level vehicles.

It was good, I agree, but I guess there were inherent balancing problems

[fallen yarrow]

They should have had a default specialization like they did with the starter weapons. Include field/emergency repairs or something like that

[tacit sphinx]

yeah i think there could be more options for vehicles but the vehicle trees were a pain when you're trying to get used to planes and some guy with just objectively better weapons, armour and turn speed/control pops up and recks you

[fallen yarrow]

But this has always been an issue with DICE. They lock some of the better vehicle loadouts behind levels (Flares, Thermal Smoke, etc) so it's a struggle for new players to level up if the they join the game late

[tacit sphinx]

part of it was that a lot of them didn't really have downsides it was just "lol increased turn speed" or "lol 4 extra machine guns"

[fallen yarrow]

The downside was that you were committed to a certain tree

But yeah, there was still BiS loadouts

[radiant prism]

Its an unfortunate biproduct of vehicles existing. Striking a balance between making vehicles a legitimate threat without them being blatantly overpowered is INSANELY difficult to balance, and I think a lot of people underestimate that

[tacit sphinx]

that too, you picked a rubbish tree when you started and then it took ages to get to the point where you could reset

[fallen yarrow]

I liked the concept of the trees. It's easier to force downsides/balance across different categories of upgrades

Compared to the pick 2-3 equipment slots in other games.

[radiant prism]

Throwback to when I accidentally specialized my M1897 to slugs then came back to it on stream and had to grind it to get the regular buckshot

Time to go find the edit again lol

[fallen yarrow]

I think planes are by far the hardest, specially if you're not a good pilot

2042 has the benefit of levelling against bots, but with planes you need to actually kill vehicles...so it's still not easy/quick for people who don't know how to fly

[fallen yarrow]

On the other hand, in BFV the unlocks were based on score...so you could still grind it slowly by doing little damage here and there even if you didn't get the kills/vehicle destroys.

[radiant prism]

tfw stuck with slug rounds in BFV

[fervent grotto]

I love slugs so much

[fallen yarrow]

1 round on Underground would have solved that issue :)

[radiant prism]

I hate slugs...until I pop off with them

[fallen yarrow]

Have you guys used the rifle mode on the drilling?

[radiant prism]

The thing I like about 2042 though is that you can carry multiple ammo types with the plus system so you aren't stuck with just slugs or just buckshot if you want to be more versatile

[fervent grotto]

I’m currently trying to get my boys at rifle, m30 drilling, and sten gold. Already have the type 2A gold

[fallen yarrow]

Some of the BFV assignments were a pain

[tacit sphinx]

i was looking forward to slugs on the 12m auto because i hoped they'd be like a budget ash-12 lol but it's just very inaccurate and there's a ton of kick

[fallen yarrow]

Hipfire and headshot kill 30 enemies while hoping on one leg in one life while in an objective area

[full burrow]

is it me or do footsteps and vehicle engine sounds basically not exist

[radiant prism]

From >30m

[fervent grotto]

The final G43 assignment is get 12 headshots while defending in a round

[fallen yarrow]

I've found them very inconsistent in 2042. I've used the surround/3D headphones settings. Haven't played around with the others though

[full burrow]

like I get the sounds are in the game but when I never get the sense that those audio cues help me in game

[fervent grotto]

My friend was so sad when he saw that

[radiant prism]

Honestly thats pretty doable with the G43

Then again I used the shit out of the G43 back in the day so idk I might be biased

[fervent grotto]

Also sorry 15. Idk why I said 12

[full burrow]

yeah I also find it hard to use the sounds to track properly, gotta rely on minimap or sight

[sudden pine]

Server RIP ? PS5 ... ?

[manic forum]

same

[grave prism]

i sort of hate the different ammo you can carry, would prefer if they just let us carry more of a single ammo type

high power ammo is worse than close combat ammo on everything except sniper rifles, it is so shit, slower fire rate, more recoil, the same damage at close range as close combat ammo, so so awful

not even mentioning armor piercing ammo lmao, fkin useless, doing 0.2% damage to a tank and reloading after shooting 20 bullets 💀

[zenith oasis]

cannot connect on PC atm

[clear quail]

im pretty sure close combat does less damage than high power

[next onyx]

Close combat does more.

[clear quail]

wait wut

[low sparrow]

Game servers down?

[next onyx]

Has a Higher Max but its damage doesn't carry out as well out into ranges.

At that point you may as well use standard.

[zenith oasis]

looks like yes but as usual, no communication ...

[low sparrow]

damm 😦

[velvet sand]

That...makes absolutely no sense for weapon ammo. Glad I just stick with high-cap mags, even after finishing development on it the weapon mod system feels kinda underwhelming.

[olive lake]

Wonder what reason they'd have for closing the servers down.

Probably nothing worthwhile.

[next onyx]

Would of liked to see grip, stock and barrel attachments. Hard barrel not the muzzle.

Hard attachments you cannot take off.

[grave prism]

that would be nice

hope dice have another look at the attachments at some point but that probably is too much effort for them so i doubt they will

[next onyx]

Oh not foregrip but rear grip I mean.

Next game maybe.

Plus menu I really do like in all honestly.

[velvet sand]

Good weapon mod systems are a legacy feature : | (but yes, plus system for quick-swapping from the few attachments you have 'stored' is good)

[grave prism]

i like it except for the ammo swapping

[next onyx]

It's like the vehicle system from 5 before they fully opened it up. You always have what you want then and there.

Cuts down on going through the menus and has you play the game more.

[fervent grotto]

So what the hell is the reason to use high power

[raw spoke]

any fix if all my settings were reset?

[grave prism]

the damage drop off is less and it has a higher speed/less drop

i think on most guns it saves you like 1 extra shot to kill over standard and close combat ammo

but it got nerfed on the svk so it doesnt 2 shot after like 75m or something now. i just dont feel its worth it to use with all the downsides it has on anything but sniper rifles where it is actually useful

[elder patrol]

Wym?

[fallen yarrow]

No, unless you previously made a copy of your settings file/profile folder

[arctic grove]

@raw spoke go to documents then bf2042 folder, go in ur save_profile folder make ur settings then save them restart game should work .. for me it was workin

servers down someone any infos?

[vocal adder]

i had alot of fun playing 2042 again its diffidently better but still has issues

[obtuse turtle]

bf2042 down!

😨

[velvet sand]

Has DICE/Ripple disabled the MAV in infantry-only yet? Or do we have to wait weeks for this fix.

[fervent grotto]

Why would you use it? It seems useless

[elder patrol]

Doesnt it do more damage and have higher velocity

[velvet sand]

More damage at longer ranges, less damage at shorter ranges (even compared to subsonic), apparently.

[next onyx]

Its damage carries slightly longer than standard rounds.

Subsonic is a good in between.

Keeps your mag and damage range a bit.

[elder patrol]

Oh then I dont see what the problem is then lol,

[velvet sand]

Logically, high-powered rounds would seem to do more damage overall regardless of range, especially given the downside of reduced rate of fire/reload speed. Subsonic doing more close range damage makes less sense (it's fired slower so...more damage?) and given the benefit of making you harder to detect on the minimap.

[next onyx]

It's weird firing subsonic and not seeing the tracer.

You're so used to seeing it, the instant it's gone it makes you notice.

M5 with subsonic is great though.

[tacit sphinx]

for the m5 at least there's no decrease in damage for using the high power rounds

[velvet sand]

Weird that subsonic appears to have a higher damage over distance than...normal rounds? >.>

[next onyx]

Subsonic work in between.

They're weird.

[tacit sphinx]

yeah i'm not sure why that's a thing lol

[velvet sand]

You'd think that'd be reversed.

Guess the mod system needs another 3+ months of development : /

[next onyx]

Subsonic LCMG has a 30m 4hk range while high powered has a 40m 4hk range.

While standard has a 20 4hk range. Its... an event.

[shy latch]

from where did you take this graph?

[next onyx]

Sym.gg

[shy latch]

oh cool, thanks

[tacit sphinx]

yeah this is. weird, basically seems like based on damage models alone subsonic is better than standard issue

there are other factors like mag size + how much ammo you carry, i think subsonic tends to be less overall ammo + sometimes a reduced mag compared to standard

[next onyx]

The rpm and velocity decrease keep it from being dominant but yeah.

[tacit sphinx]

and funnily enough lower velocity on subsonic

but yeah better than i gave credit for i guess

[next onyx]

Close combat is a stupidly strong ammo type on the m5.

[velvet sand]

Guess I'm gonna have to swap from high-cap mags to subsonic for a while to see how that plays given that there appears to be no downside outside of capacity. This game makes no logical sense lol.

[next onyx]

I like standard extended for the m5 since it's a does all ammo. With a 5hk 20m range it competes with the AK24.

[real mortar]

Is battlefield v cancerous? Should i buy BF2042?

[wide shore]

I’ll be honest. I rarely used the close quarters stuff when T1’ing the M5.

[velvet sand]

I always thought subsonic was purely for close-range engagements but the damage says apparently that's wrong.

[next onyx]

Bf5 is better on console than pc.

If on PC and you have a good rig, 2042. If on console do 5.

[wide shore]

From my understanding, subsonic is only useful when paired with a suppressor. So you don’t give the enemy damage indicators.

[next onyx]

It's still pretty close ranged cause the velocity decrease but the damage range makes up for it it's just weird.

Oh for sure but you may as well use for a good mid ranged ammo.

High powered would be more dominant in mid.

[tacit sphinx]

i think that only works with the heavy suppressors

[next onyx]

Normal suppressors nah but heavies yeah.

By the way.

I'm so glad heavy suppressors are viable.

The downsides are good too.

[wide shore]

The downside is that there’s not a heavy suppressor for every gun

[next onyx]

True.

It's only there for the vector and the mp9.

[wide shore]

Especially 2 of the SMGs. Instead they get suppressors that only work at long range. WHAT

[next onyx]

Normal suppressors do that, The heavy is unlimited range.

It's... weird.

I just hate being on the radar all the time if I want to play normally.

Suppressors taking away sound was already good enough in bf5.

[tacit sphinx]

i think the range thing is like 10-15m, 'long range' is a bit misleading

[next onyx]

Long range probably for subbies yeah.

[wide shore]

I know. But the PBX and PP only get normal suppressors. They’re still SMGs. Why have suppressors at all if you’re using them at point blank

[tacit sphinx]

tbf they also removed hit markers and it was kinda nuts

[next onyx]

Hit indicators yeah.

[wide shore]

The suppressors in V did remove hit indicators. A better change IMO

[next onyx]

Though if everyone could do that it'd get annoying. But if only select weapons had that I wouldn't mind.

[wide shore]

I also hate being on the map when I shoot. It’s an archaic design I don’t like.

[thick copper]

silenced weapons in 1 did that too

[wide shore]

I hated it even when suppressors barely had downsides in 3 & 4. And I still hate it now. I want to hear the gun sounds. Aren’t the sounds of guns going off enough?

[next onyx]

High powered AC42 is a treat since there's no damage drop off.

[tacit sphinx]

i think when you have a limited number of suppressors available it's a decent route to go but if everyone can stick a suppressor on almost any gun it gets a bit much with not having a visual indication of where you were shot from

[wide shore]

They could’ve kept the massive damage drop off and firepower downside it had at launch then.

[next onyx]

Yeah that's it really. If a normal suppressor just took noise that'd be fine with the heaviers reducing noise a step further and no indicators for a small handful of guns.

[tacit sphinx]

interestingly you're better off taking the type 4 suppressor over the pb, despite the type 4 decreasing damage by a larger amount because that amount basically doesn't matter

[wide shore]

Idk man. I can’t use suppressors. I feel like they make my gun useless

[tacit sphinx]

at most you lose 0.9 damage per bullet on the mp9 with subsonic ammo

[next onyx]

Err Pb and type 4 being the heavy suppressor?

I thought they no longer reduced damage huh.

[wide shore]

The benefit of a compensator greatly outweighs being on the minimap. Especially when 9000 other things can spot you at any given second.

[next onyx]

I know they reduce ranged damage.

Hmm.

Brain hurt.

[wide shore]

Maybe that’s the console player in me speaking though. I don’t like recoil. Makes my console aim even worse

(It should definitely still be in the game though. I just mean I’d rather use a compensator to lower recoil than use a suppressor in 2042)

[next onyx]

Thing is. Even on pc I'd prefer the muzzle brake cause it just eases it all.

[karmic cobalt]

Depends on range. Close quarters with smg I’ll take the no minimap. Less recoil is really good but inside suppressor is better

[next onyx]

Suppressors mess with a bit of ranged performance.

[tacit sphinx]

i tend to take warhawk compensator which i think reduces both vertical and horizontal recoil by a bit

[next onyx]

Even if subbies aren't made for it. The bit of range helps a lot.

[wide shore]

Been using the champion muzzle break on most guns since the update.

[next onyx]

That decreases accuracy doesn't it?

Dr.

[tacit sphinx]

hipfire accuracy

[next onyx]

Oh pfft that's a non issue.

[tacit sphinx]

which tbh is basically not a downside because yeah it's minimal

[next onyx]

I like that straight moving grip.

The stubby grip is comfy too.

[wide shore]

The BCW Light Grip and the LWG grip are the way

No pun intended.

[tacit sphinx]

i wouldn't take it if i wanted a hipfire focus build for the mp9 or vector or something but basically anything else i'll stick it on, usually alongside the bcg grip

[next onyx]

I liked the angled grip but its a pseudo laser.

Yeah.

[arctic grove]

At least the game is getting better

[wide shore]

Angled grip kinda useless now. Lol

[tacit sphinx]

angled grip feels like there's not much reason to use it tbh yeah

[compact meteor]

Getting back into battlefield again 🙂

[karmic cobalt]

Oh you guys get a grip, you don’t need grips. Tactical laser pointers are the way. Blind the enemy and distract their attack cats

[compact meteor]

Can any dm some of there best classes to use since the update 🙂

[tacit sphinx]

which is a shame because its probably my favourite looking grip, and even if you want better hipfire just take a laser lol. personally i'd like it to have a different effect

[next onyx]

Better hipfire recovery.

[wide shore]

It is the best looking grip

[next onyx]

Or doesn't decrease as bad.

So in a way you're not any more accurate but the spread doesn't get too bad.

[white geyser]

Give us the tv missile in 2042, I needed for my AA wildcats tank secondary weapon attachment

[ember vessel]

/bf2042 stats

[rain basin]

OHHHH!!!!

[timber cradle]

Did they really make scope reflection this bad? Wow

[arctic grove]

Yes

[timber cradle]

Okay I’m gonna need a regular play group cause this is cringe lmao

[grizzled whale]

i want this as an underbarrel for my mp9

[grizzled whale]

not even a noobtube

[timber cradle]

So people still don’t play the objective I see lol

[velvet sand]

Why on earth would you ever PTFO in an objective/team based shooter when you could just hang out in your spawn and try to snipe people across the map?

[fiery shoal]

its not like theres any real incentive to win outside of personal goals/satisfaction anyway

if there was a sandbox shooter to do whatever you want, its BF

[wide shore]

I play to win