battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

I’ve seen some hover 500 meters+ above an objective where we can’t do a damn thing about them

I genuinely question if they’re ACTUALLY perceived to be balanced

[tepid agate]

I think the defending team need more balance on break through. 9 times out of 10 attack wins because they spawn almost instantly and have access to more vehicles

[arctic grove]

Either give both sides equal vehicle amounts for the entire game or just remove anything that isn’t armored or light

[tepid agate]

Yeah I think they should give equal vehicles

[arctic grove]

Defending team doesn’t even get a single attack vehicle slot for like the first 2 objective zones of a game

That means attackers get free reign to take a condour or super hind up 500 meters and rain people constantly onto the objectives

[tepid agate]

bfV was nice because everything was coming at you on the ground lol

[arctic grove]

Which wouldn’t really be bad if attackers didn’t have like 700 tickets

[tepid agate]

Maybe they are giving more advantage to attackers because they suffered from the silly roof too design objectives at launch

[arctic grove]

Attackers revenge

[tepid agate]

It just doesn't feel balanced at all. Honestly if I am attacking I am so confident the team will win but not defending

I think what's even worse is the ability to call in vehicles wherever you are.

It allows players to have access to these monster cannons, on top of locations where vehicles can't drive to.

Vehicle campers just call in those with the cannon, turn the vehicle backwards so they can't get snipped and rain down fire.

I don't know if the game can ever fix that.

[arctic grove]

Yeah me either, I guess jet AGMs would work since right now even those are too damn strong

[copper fulcrum]

seems you can still get 32v32 on Solo in AOW, just select Conquest/Breakthrough 64

[copper rock]

Imagine thinking that this game can still be saved

[hardy leaf]

the release of new better games will undermine this game's attempt of a comeback and i can see the devs are working on the community feedback but still there is nothing substantial to bring players into the game,

[wide violet]

next bf should just be a bf3/bf4 remake

[arctic grove]

ImAgine

[forest snow]

breakthrough 64p is much better

just tried it now apart from the casper standing on his drone miles in the air with ap rounds

[copper fulcrum]

Game's better than most out there

[nimble hatch]

I have yet to update my game to see any of the new improvements lol

[hexed mango]

you should do so

[copper fulcrum]

The game is in a good spot and is going to get better as time goes on

[hexed mango]

^

[nimble hatch]

Well I will start my update then, I’ve been doing a lot on BFV lately lol

[hexed mango]

bf4 moment

[wide shore]

Man, I just played like 4 rounds of BF1. It’s still the best man

Ughhh. What a game man

[lyric solar]

Anyone know why the standard issue drum mag is still locked after reading the required mastery 12 (360 kills)?

For the AK24

[tepid agate]

Released 6 years ago and the second most popular played battlefield. It's a really great game.

[arctic grove]

Except the act of working on implementing community feedback into the game is substantial to bring players into the game,

[tepid agate]

I can see that but those who are complaining how it should be are those still active or in the verge of abandoning it. I think as more time goes by the more difficult it is. The lies they told to get Christmas sales really burnt the community.

[arctic grove]

The damage has already been done for most people that’s for sure

[tepid agate]

That's why as battlefield fans we want it to succeed and be the game it should have been, but at the same time there is a lot of player happy to move onto other games, and purposely won't engagy with this product to teach them a lesson not to do that again

[arctic grove]

And there’s no solid telling what S1s initial performance will be with the first season but expect a player resurgence to see what the new QoL, mechanics and content updates are. If it’s good enough it’ll stick. But DICE needs to do a lot for that first

[arctic grove]

It’s gotta work this time right?

New weekly in 9 minutes, time to see if it’s any milsim specialist helmets

Or something cool

[tepid agate]

BF4 launch - tons of bugs
BFV launch - tons of missing content

This was both combined and in top of that, they told a lot of lies to sell the product for Christmas. Really poor responses from devs responding to passionate fans like we expect too much from them. On top of all this, 2042 are trying to undergo a new direction by focusing on specialists which they didn't do before

I think it's too late. I hope they prove me wrong but myngut says no

[hardy leaf]

but its a little too late for that

[tepid agate]

Cool I'm still at work let me know what it is lol

[arctic grove]

Not necessarily

Most people don’t give a damn period so you’re somewhat right

Then there’s the large crowd that just wants actual new content

[hardy leaf]

there is no doubt that its too late to work on community feedback after ignoring it completely before launching the game, and when launched, an incomplete, broken, mess of a game for 60$-100$ cash grab bundles.

[tepid agate]

Don't even think it's a large crowd to be honest player count is extremely low. Servers are filled with bots and the people wanting content are those remaining players left that are with the bots

Like if they add more content there's still a lot of complaints I see about this game

Actually all over Twitter people are complaining about this bolt on cannon gun. People are stopping to play this game because it just powers over all the infantry warfare

[arctic grove]

I meant a large crowd that doesn’t play because absence of content. For a lot of people there isn’t much to do. But general consensus is there’s just too many flaws that can’t be fixed in this game and they find it worth it to just stay on V or other titles

[tepid agate]

Content will definitely interest people to come back and play. 4.0 definitely made numbers rise again but it didn't last long before it started dropping. Again that could be lack of content. So one hand they need to keep giving content and on the other hand they need to address all the other issues that people are complaining about

[arctic grove]

Yeah, the game played and felt a lot better and polished but yeah, it’s really just content for a portion of players

[tepid agate]

Honestly think there are quite a few fans of the battlefield franchise that don't want this game to succeed in order to teach them a lesson. Because if they turn it around and bring in the player base again, they're going to have this feeling that they can charge you full price for half-made products and we will fix it over time

[arctic grove]

The way I see it, I don’t believe DICE is really ignoring anything. You’ve seen this discord have two core feedbacks so far to gather reception and feedback for the game and how the community wants it to play. Seems that DICE decided to work in silence on bug fixing and stabilizing, and sprinkling in feedback whenever possible before S1

[hardy leaf]

im talking about the time when they launched the game

this core feedback thing is after the damage is already done

[tepid agate]

I've been questioning for ages when is this specialist feedback loop coming. Somebody in this discord told me it should have been a couple weeks ago but they've gone quiet on it lol

[arctic grove]

Which makes sense but this discord taught me one thing and it’s that it seems every battlefield since 3 has had major problems on launch and for a portion of their lifespan, which would fit into the “launch it broken and fix it later” thing for 10 yrs maybe more

[tepid agate]

Can't speak too much on that because I've only been at 3 launches bf1 bfV and 2042

[arctic grove]

I say since 3 since I haven’t really heard an account for prior games

[tepid agate]

I think 2042 they really hyped it up and it was all lies. Bf1 came out 6 years ago. So 6 years of playing the old war battlefields and then we were waiting for that modern Battlefield shooter again. They are just so far off the mark

[arctic grove]

That rendezook in the trailer brought back a lot of players nostalgia making them think it’d be a mix of a throwback and someone else said they figured it’d be the “lessons learned” game

I really just want the game to improve where possible after seeing this backlash, cause damn going back to the trailer is depressing

I’m not seeing a weekly challenge so I assume it expires at midnight and the challenge goes live some time in the morning

It it’s an Arctic skin I might just rip apart space time and matter

[tepid agate]

I have a problem that the specialists are disconnecting teamwork more than it did with classes, I'm more of a boots on the ground player.

2042 you have these light armored vehicles with cannons that obliterate infantry. You can call them in on top of roofs and just rain down cannons.

You've got transport vehicles which obliterate infantry as well because of its cannon. Getting more kills than attack helicopters.

It's just this whole gameplay infantry it's just very underwhelming.

[tepid agate]

What do you need to do?

[arctic grove]

Nothing since the challenge isn’t active yet, just poking fun at how many arctic skins we’ve received in weekly challenges

[tepid agate]

Oh, probably for their new winter map(s) lol

[arctic grove]

I mean I wouldn’t mind more I just wonder what else they’d do with an arctic climate

[tepid agate]

They could give characters actual winter skins to unlock instead of just a weapon or just the vehicle

Or maybe they have those items ready to launch in stores to make profits

[arctic grove]

It seems likely since many believe specialists were added just for monetization

[glossy storm]

God, did you guys see the comments on that Reddit post of a kid with cancer playing 2042?

[tepid agate]

No

[arctic grove]

Oh goodness

[glossy storm]

It's just too much, the lengths people can go to to express hatred against a game.

[arctic grove]

You mean it wasn’t overwhelming positive support for the kid and his marksmanship

[glossy storm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/uii8q8/not_even_cancer_will_keep_my_son_from_gaming/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

I mean, some of it is positive, but there's obviously a reason why the comment thread got locked.

[tepid agate]

Like, I was a heavy cod fan and player. I'd be at 4 about a year after it launched and I just fell in love with it. This class system was so different to anything I experienced with call of duty and I it really felt like it brought in the responsibility of having teamwork.

Then 2042 stripped it all away and focused on the specialist which have some cool gadgets. People told me that they are copying other games now and no they're trying to follow these trends I just think removing that removes battlefields identity

[arctic grove]

Well it’s Reddit. I honestly don’t expect much better. I totally understand the negativity for the game and how people feel but damn

[tepid agate]

That's sad man just let the kid have fun. We get most of the community hate the product but they should share positivity around him.

[arctic grove]

I like to think the people that go out of their way to have a problem with anyone that actually enjoys the game and or plays it exist as a small minority

That need to address the fact that they lack grade school understanding of the concept that people have different opinions

[next onyx]

Wtf even.

[tepid agate]

I'd like to believe that too but I think the hate for this game is real. They should just let it be and move on instead of continuing to spread hate.

[arctic grove]

Yeah I get being upset that people don’t feel they got what they paid 60+ for, but damn dude

[tepid agate]

If they never chased trends, kept their class system, had all this ready content I think they could turn it around.

[arctic grove]

Well now all we can really do is see how the game develops. I mean surely there’s a point where you really have to compromise on certain things if the backlash is that bad?

[tepid agate]

Well they will see how season 1 goes. If it's still underwhelming they will make more changes.

For me, I get confused when people don't believe there's a problem removing classes in Battlefield.

That's like call of duty wanting to chase a trend so they remove kill streaks from their game. And then you are confused why people think this is not a problem in call of duty.

Theres a bingo card that someone has created for all the people who moan about the same things with this game.
Please forward that bingo card to the devs because so many people complain about the same things

[forest snow]

Don’t they if they were going to drop news and updates on a Thursday?

[arctic grove]

The optimistic side of me likes to think someone went out of their way to personally send it to one of them somehow

[tepid agate]

Hope so 😂

[junior pike]

when to update？

[tepid agate]

Waiting for updates💀

[arctic grove]

The funny part is DICE never specified when the may update would receive any information

Just may

Typically yes we’ve seen info come out on Thursday’s, but who knows if they’re ready for this months update so early. Perhaps the may update largely expands upon 4.0?

[bitter hill]

aye bro, is the game dead on series x verison

[arctic grove]

It doesn’t matter what system you’re on, just your region

[tepid agate]

Pretty much need cross play on for this game to function

[arctic grove]

Unless you only want to play cross play off which in that case crossplay off is dead on everything lol

[bitter hill]

okay bro

heard that the new gens versions have bigger maps

[tepid agate]

Atleast with crossplay on only 30% of the server is bots

Turn it off you'll probably have 70% of the server with bots

[arctic grove]

I mean, on breakthrough 128 I’ve been getting full servers, I’m also in NA though, and playing the main game modes

[bitter hill]

I'm in NA too

North America

[tepid agate]

I sometimes get full servers. Just gradually becoming more frequent to find bots in servers now

[arctic grove]

What would really help is a server browser, I don’t see why not but maybe there’s a valid explanation for its lack of existence

[tepid agate]

But yeah always have crossplay on

[bitter hill]

server browser helps in bf4

couldn't find a game on there on pc

until I saw the server browser

[tepid agate]

Still full servers on BF4

[arctic grove]

Honestly I’ve always found a handful of full or nearly full servers on 4 even through 1 and Vs life times. It feels dated now so I don’t play it often but it’s solid

[tepid agate]

They can still max servers with ques, all real players on a 9 year old title lol

I went in the other day for a bit just played a few games

[arctic grove]

The only complaint I had with 4 was I felt 3 had a way better campaign but that was about it

Hannah

And the occasional G18 AEK sweat but that’s more of a get gud issue

[tepid agate]

Yeah 3 had good reviews I was just too late to that party I was still all into cod at that time lol

Now I see how lucky you were to be playing through bf3. These maps in portal are amazing from them

[arctic grove]

Oh nah I wasn’t there for 3 during its support cycle and didn’t buy it till like 2019. It’s good tho

I only cared about cod too for a while

At least I can confidently say I’ll actually buy this years cod title

[tepid agate]

I'll probably just stick with FIFA 😄

[copper fulcrum]

I'd rather stick with $60 worth of fish

[worthy inlet]

That'd last you a good long while too

3kg of decent salmon

[grizzled whale]

3kg of salmon for 60 bucks?

super cheap ass salmon is like 30 bucks/kg here

[white geyser]

60 bucks of salmon, you know cooking a salmon it better cook like it's from the restaurant

[grizzled whale]

i hate salmon anyway

[clever adder]

I think its because the map is too "open" not enough cover and buildings?

I think more buildings with stronger handheld AT weapons would solve this

[plucky pebble]

L take

[grizzled whale]

L food

[clever adder]

Also restrict where can you call down arm vehicles and how many on the field at a time would solve this

[grizzled whale]

bro the m5 is perfectly fine

unless you are running at the edge of the map, theres ALWAYS someone else with an m5

you literally cant go onto a point without being shot at by m5's from atleast 3 sides

[tepid agate]

Cover can help as yes, the maps are pretty open.

I'm not sure how they are going to solve the problem with calling in vehicles on roofs.

[clever adder]

Ah i mention restricting where to call vehicles

I mean i dont think that is too hard to implement?

[tepid agate]

The same reason the moved objectives in breakthrough from the roof to the ground was so people could try take the objectives without vehicles on roofs gaurding elevators.

Conquest still has objectives on roofs so people can hold them using this method.

They just sit there raining cannons down onto infantry too it sucks

The call in system on BF4 was fine as only commanders could call in a quad bike to help you move to other locations. Now you can call in tank and light armored vehicles anywhere you want with cannons that obliterate infantry.

[tame cobalt]

Battlefield 2043 when

[vale pier]

Not sure why they couldn't just block the call in marker from being placed on roofs. easy fix

[tepid agate]

That's would be a good start

[tame cobalt]

I just want BF to be good again, don't care if they change the class system or whatever the fuck, just give a GOOD large scale sandbox shooter plzzzzzzz

With good maps and good modes

2042 maps are bad because 128 CQ and 128 BT are fundamentally flawed modes (and because the game was rushed and mismanaged, of course)

[dusky blade]

Dude, we gotta face it

Battlefield is kinda just gone, we ain’t seeing it again

[tame cobalt]

no

As long as there is an audience that wants it, it stays

[lyric atlas]

bf5 had flaws, but was a good game despite it. 2042 is basically the first true problematic game

[tepid agate]

They are tryin Battlefield in a new direction. If they cannot get back the community to support their product, then hopefully they return to their roots and give us what we all love.

[lyric atlas]

if they really listen to feedback and get to the point of what everyone is pissed about and put it all together to make a new game, and THAT fails, then you would have a point

[tame cobalt]

Yuh

[vale pier]

Maybe this was the plan all along. Kill their current, long standing audience so they can make whatever they want with the next game. 6v6 hero shooter for the next game I bet

[lyric atlas]

almost no chance that'll happen

killing their long-standing audience means killing off their huge numbers from bf1 and shit, so it isnt a good strat

[dusky blade]

Well they no longer care for the battlefield audience

[vale pier]

They've already done it

[dusky blade]

They want the apex and cod warzone audience

[tame cobalt]

oh boy

[dusky blade]

That’s what 2042 was about. Cod like movement, specialists, the such and such

[vale pier]

they spend mega bucks, so yeh. they want that audience more than us for sure

[tame cobalt]

shit takes

[lyric atlas]

2042 just kinda seemed like a bastard child game. it was meant to be BR, but they pivoted late in development and now we're here. this means that, although they fucked it, they haven't committed to alienation yet, they just fucked up

[dusky blade]

Yeah, since most of us players tend to be on the older side or simply be more aware

[dusky blade]

My man it’s literally a fact lol

[tame cobalt]

Nah

[tepid agate]

Adding tweaks to improve is fine but they have pulled too far away from themselves to be like others. I don't think 2042 should even be considered as a battlefield game they should call it something else.

[dusky blade]

For example, there was 100% no reason to add specialists, they don’t make anything better and allow for massive monetisation

And that’s exactly how the big boys are making money atm

[tame cobalt]

Specialists aren't the issue tho.

[lyric atlas]

they just tried a new direction and you dont like it

it isnt the end of the world

[dusky blade]

Yeah it’s not

[tepid agate]

I hope they learn from the backlash.

[dusky blade]

But if you remember the leaks about the next game being a full on hero shooter, you see their goals

[tame cobalt]

Specialists aren't the issue, the flawed design of the game is. Mostly regarding the modes and maps

[tepid agate]

If they publicly announce it they are doomed lol

[dusky blade]

Tbf like 90% of players have lost all trust in dice

Already

[tepid agate]

Removing a class system to focus on specialists is part of the problem

[lyric atlas]

although it isnt exactly a great time for DICE's perception, they really havent done that bad

BF2 and 2042 are their main fuck-ups, but BF2 is actually a good game

[dusky blade]

How bruh, they tore away everything that made battlefield battlefield, then tried to profit off the success of other games

That’s pretty darn bad for a sequel to a franchise

[tepid agate]

Did all other battlefields before BF4 have classes?

[lyric atlas]

i just like to think of the specialists as a bastardized gadget picking system

[tame cobalt]

Still feels like an overblown issue, i feel like people stopped playing because of the maps/modes (and horrendous launch)

[dusky blade]

Yep

All battlefields before 2042 followed the battlefield formula

A community driven experience, with gameplay focused around role play, choke points in maps and groundbreaking immersion

[tepid agate]

Like I said earlier

It's like COD removing kill streaks in their next game to focus on some gaming trend

Then you wonder why most of the cod fans are upset ....

[tame vine]

maps + most importantly server browser and persistent lobbies. The latter was the root cause of killing the game imo

[tame cobalt]

[vale pier]

Would love to see the return of CTE though. So much good stuff came out of that for BF4

[lyric atlas]

tru

[tame cobalt]

My prediction is that the next bf will be good but will underperform.

[dusky blade]

It’s said to be a sequel to 2042, so I don’t bet on it

[tepid agate]

My prediction is that it's not even Battlefield anymore 😆

[lyric atlas]

they will almost certainly attempt to make the most battlefieldy battlefield ever

[tame cobalt]

It might be a good sequel to 2042 tho.

[dusky blade]

They’ve lost their core fans, and becoming a laughing stock among casuals

[vale pier]

Probably the same as what happened with GoTG. Avengers was awful so people didn't buy GoTG even thought it's actually a really good game

[dusky blade]

If it doesn’t undo everything 2042 did, it won’t be good, but then it won’t be a 2042 sequel

[tame cobalt]

Yup

[lyric atlas]

if they know what's good for them, they'll just try to appeal to everything fans want and work on everything they complained about. they'll probably keep portal as one good thing out of 2042

[tame cobalt]

Nah

[tepid agate]

Depends how many supports they can keep for their current direction. If they believe it's sustainable they will continue this path

[lyric atlas]

how could they think this path is sustainable

[tame cobalt]

If it's a bf3-like game in 2042 setting with some modernisations (industry has changed) it would be a good 2042 sequel

[tepid agate]

See that the path is sustainable for the amount of players that are playing their product.

Play numbers are consistently low because of the direction they're trying to go in then they will know they can't continue like that going into the future for a new game

[lyric atlas]

so...they wont think this path is sustainable

[tame cobalt]

I trust in daddy zampella

[lyric atlas]

because it doesnt take a marketing genius to see that if they make another bf that gets fucked like this, it may be the end of the franchise

[tepid agate]

At the moment, no. Player numbers for this game are very low. They will try that best to bring a rise in players. Can't do it after season 1 then I think all hope is lost with their direction

[lyric atlas]

just because season 1 does good doesnt mean they'll interpret it as proof that their path was good in the first place. they'll still have to take another path, because the game already failed

if season 1 does revitalize the game, it wont be because they went deeper into specialists or BR-style maps

[tepid agate]

Well they're going to start activating things in the stores for purchase. Someone is good and people continue to pay money for more additional things with this product, of course they're going to continue this into the future

After season 1 they're going to look at their player numbers and the revenue coming in. This is the whole reason why they Stripped away a class system to focus on trends because of how much money the other games are making that way

[tame cobalt]

EA gonna have to hire some marketing geniuses for the next game. After they made sure the game is good of course

[lyric atlas]

they probably already have some, but they may be a little ignorant on what us Gamers want

or they didnt think about how important our bandwagon power is

[tepid agate]

For a modern military Battlefield game

They could have repolished BF4 or BF3, giving them some new maps and some of the new features from 2042, keep the class system and that polished game would be BATTLEFIELD

Not this specialist game it should have its own title

[tame cobalt]

Well the marketing itself for 2042 was good

But like... This game's marketing kind of already played the "return to form for the franchise" card, which is what they will need for the next one...

[lyric atlas]

they probably see how portal is actually quite well received, and might focus on that stuff in the future

[tepid agate]

I wonder if they would ever try to revive HZ lol

[tame cobalt]

not sure

[tame cobalt]

lel no

[vale pier]

I think if we could get a solid patch and injection of content for portal, that might be enough to bring back some players. Even if they just end up playing portal

[tame cobalt]

cod MWII's new mode will claim the "arcade tarkov" spot

[tepid agate]

When I looked at portal servers last week, most I saw had 78 players

[vale pier]

imo AOW would take too much work for me to actually enjoy it like I did older BF games

[lyric atlas]

i think they should lean into the cross-time battles, but actually work to balance them and make them have to play to their strengths and stuff

[tepid agate]

They want people to have fun and get used to these specialists to support the direction they want to go in. But with so many people choosing to play the last titles or completely abandon this game, it's not going to support them moving forward

[tame cobalt]

yeah idk if these claims of portal being a success actually hold much weight... dunno

[tepid agate]

I have more fun in Portal because the maps are actually cool lol

[tame cobalt]

yeah

def some of the greatest maps in the series

but there are other ways to recycle maps

lookin at operation underground in bfv

But yeah could lean more into the portal thing

Maybe make the next game so that there isn't a split between main and portal mode, and make it a live service game that is continually updated for a long time

And just call it BATTLEFIELD

[plucky pebble]

COPIUM

[tame cobalt]

BROCCOLI

Still looking forward to season 1, i know I'll enjoy it. Just hope there will actually be people playing in my region

ngl i wanna see some more "out there" settings for bf tho. like some far future sci fi stuff, or steampunk

but doubt that will ever happen

full steampunk bf would be sick

[dusky blade]

We need space battlefield

[uncut bay]

i'd love a battlefield similar to infinite warfare. So much potential

especially a campaign with how good frostbite looks

[lyric atlas]

star citizen will one day have some pvp like that i guess

but as we all know, star citizen is a fake game

[stone granite]

So much potential but due to bad decision and bad execution at the end of the day its sucks

[uncut bay]

the day star citizen leaves alpha is the day i eat a fridge

CR's incompetence is the only thing preventing that game from getting anywhere

yet whales continue to sink literal thousands of dollars on jpgs

[lyric atlas]

it will almost certainly lose alpha one day

so get ready

to eat a fridge

[uncut bay]

i sure will

we got told it'll release in 2027 or something along those lines, so i'm preparing for 2035

[lyric atlas]

i wouldnt be surprised if they have it leave alpha after they get server meshing done, but whether that'll ever be done is hard to know...

[uncut bay]

seeing as things are constantly being added and moved around, who knows

could've left alpha years ago if he'd stuck with the original vision instead of constantly trying to make something bigger

[lyric atlas]

well, in its ideal state, star citizen will be an amazing game

[uncut bay]

sure, every game would ideally be amazing. SC is ambitious and i can appreciate what CR is trying to make

but he's an utter fool

i do hope SC turns out well eventually, though. What it's trying to be is everything i've ever wanted from a space game

really scratched the itch that ED couldn't, even if only for a few days

[turbid marsh]

Finally bought the game and my gun wont stop shooting during the tutorial

[lyric atlas]

try to reset the controls to default idk

[dusky blade]

I would imagine a space themed game to be dark, gritty and deep feeling

Idk it’s just a cool thought

[uncut bay]

yeah, some interplanetary war with like, a lot of lives on the live. That's what made IW's campaign so compelling imo, there was a lot at stake (and ofc the outstanding characters throughout)

[shy latch]

yo guys, what is gonna be today weekly mission? I bet it'll be a vehicle skin

[lyric atlas]

we can't know

[grizzled whale]

i bet it will be a skin thats barely different from any of the skins we already got with the least used attachments and for a weapon that barely anyone uses

[lyric atlas]

i love sundance just for the ability to do that

[uncut bay]

honestly yeah, i used to just get around with it but the flanking opportunities are insane

[lyric atlas]

lol i didnt even notice the last reload animation

literally pushes the other mag straight up through the whole gun

[grizzled whale]

bruh this hardcore is so shit

how is the m44 not a one shot

[uncut bay]

yeah lol people are saying the modifiers got fixed but they're horrible now

[grizzled whale]

its actual shit

shotgun shot from 5m not a 1 shot, m44 shot to upper body not a 1 shot

but fucking sentry guns can 1 shot you

[silk surge]

It's funny how El Alamein is the best TDM and FFA map in the game. That small village has a good gameplay flow to it.

[grizzled whale]

EVEN MELEE ISNT 1 SHOT

i was hoping to have some fun sniping with the m44 but guess that aint happening

maybe hardcore rush has better modifiers

[silk surge]

Don't forget that snipers literally can't one shot through body shot in HARDCORE. And Armor literally prevents one shots overall.

Why would 20 extra health prevent one shots you ask? Who the fuck knows.

[silk surge]

That was a top tier flank.

[grizzled whale]

nope, hardcore rush is just as shit

portal it is

[silk surge]

Haven't tried hardcore rush. Hardcore TDM is fun but so insanely buggy.

[uncut bay]

thanks :)

[silk surge]

AC-42 is so powerful in hardcore, I love it.

[grizzled whale]

excuse me what

thats new

[next onyx]

Mm LCMG.

Good gun!

[grizzled whale]

how does this even happen

[vestal olive]

Lmao

Gravity at its finest

[next onyx]

PBX do be feel kinda good.

[next onyx]

Oh no what have I done!?

Just realised the gun you were using there.

[uncut bay]

yeahh that was when i was trying to get 360 kills with it. Hated it but hey, got a sick clip with the secret reload at the end

[grizzled whale]

is that 20fps gameplay how you play or just the recording

[next onyx]

It's the trim sadly.

[next onyx]

I didn't even see the reload cause it ended so kek.

[fervent grotto]

That’s not normal?

That’s what my game constantly looks like that’s what I get for playing a “next gen” game on a release year Xbox

[grizzled whale]

console problem

[fervent grotto]

I will never buy a pc unless I become a streamer

[grizzled whale]

your loss ig

[onyx mica]

ahhh im back finally after months not playing

thought game is dead by now

[frank rain]

They are again gonna mess it up weekly mission 😡 😩 😫 👿

[weak obsidian]

and more specialists skin

[silk jasper]

what setup?

gun attach

[fervent grotto]

Not really a loss. I just think it’s to much especially for me. I have to save for a car and insurance so a console that is like 500 dollars is pretty nice

[burnt swan]

W

Car is 10x more important

[visual gazelle]

That doesn't sound normal. 2042 should hit an average of 60 FPS on PS5 and XbSeX.

[burnt swan]

Pretty sure it’s not a constant 60 fps

[fervent grotto]

Funny that you think I can find a series x that won’t make me go poor

I play on a release year Xbox one lol

[low timber]

Oh, this weeks reward is the Rao headgear

[frank rain]

It's narvin Rao head gear

[fervent grotto]

Oh great, love me some Rao headgear

[low timber]

But cant see the requirements lol

[visual gazelle]

Ah, I misread your original comment. Sorry!

[next onyx]

Close combat mags with the straight moving grip, Muzzle brake that reduces horizontal recoil and a fusion/k8 holo. Subsonic or high impact as back up.

[fervent grotto]

If this challenge requires me to go out of my way then I’m not doing it. If it’s easy and convenient, sure.

[low timber]

And flashback conquest yay

[fervent grotto]

Nah it’s cool I don’t really care

[burnt swan]

Did they remove the hardcore gamemodes?

[frank rain]

For the past 2 weekly mission the tracker is missing

[low timber]

Yes, its flashback conquest, team deathmatch 2042 and countdown

[silk jasper]

cheers

[next onyx]

Flashback conquest is actually a good playlist.

[frank rain]

What are the helmet challenges

[burnt swan]

Good those hardcore game modes was a mistake, no limits on team killing

[next onyx]

I want more of it. Add that makes to conquest 64 in all out warfare and then we'll be good.

[visual gazelle]

Yeah. Just add Portal maps and weapons, and suddenly All Out War has a lot more content.

[fervent grotto]

Probably hacking things with Rao

[frank rain]

😡 👿

[low timber]

Hopefully we’ll get grand bazaar and metro in portal.

[next onyx]

Huh helmet.

[fervent grotto]

So what if we just got an overpowered Rao to where when he hacks something it essentially becomes a rag doll and you can control the vehicle (like that one thing from Gary’s mod) and just slam the vehicle into a building

[low timber]

Well those are easy requirements
3 intel ribbons
20 enemy and vehicle kills
10 objectives captured or neutralized

[fervent grotto]

I think that would be hilarious

[visual gazelle]

Rao getting the love he deserves.

[fervent grotto]

Rao is mid tbh

[radiant prism]

That'd be cool as hell but also unbalanced as fuck lol

[visual gazelle]

He's more suited as an Engineer "role" than a Recon role in my opinion.

[radiant prism]

Thankfully hes pretty much an anti-air powerhouse, helicopters are easy for him to disable

[visual gazelle]

Just harass vehicles with hacking.

[low timber]

That green helmet is going to look odd on the T1 outfit

[radiant prism]

Disabling air vehicles is one of Rao's most important roles

[hard plume]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/uio8zf/literally_a_post_about_a_little_kid_with_cancer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Ah gamers being classy as always

[fervent grotto]

What nooooo it’s totally balanced

[radiant prism]

Oh yeah is there a new weekly?

[low timber]

Yes, we just talked about it

[frank rain]

Does anyone know what the challenge are

[low timber]

Rao’s green helmet and balaclava

[fervent grotto]

Ahhh and here we have the internet

[low timber]

And i just posted the requirements above

[radiant prism]

Ohhh shit nice

[visual gazelle]

Yeah. If enough players used Rao to the point where vehicles could not do crap, then people would be saying Rao is OP and needs to be nerfed, heh.

[radiant prism]

I haven't had the chance to look at it yet, is there an image in chat somewhere?

[low timber]

Not yet

[radiant prism]

Ah

Time for me to fix that, brb

[low timber]

It looks a bit like the bf3/4 assault classes helmets

[frank rain]

Yeah👍

[low timber]

BF4 RU assault the most id say

[frank rain]

Challenge any one challenge

[fervent grotto]

3 intel ribbons
20 enemy and vehicle kills
10 objectives captured or neutralized

[frank rain]

Ok thanks

[fervent grotto]

Welcome

[hard plume]

I say we just burn it all down and try again

[fervent grotto]

Or we just delete Reddit off the face of the earth

[radiant prism]

Ok damn shit looks pretty good

Easy challenges too

[fervent grotto]

I feel like that would solve so many problems. Just delete Reddit

[still vault]

uhhh uhhh I have something for this

[fervent grotto]

What is it

[hard plume]

All social media, clearly as a society, we’re not ready for such responsibilities.

[fervent grotto]

Well now that Elon musk owns Twitter I feel like it’ll be at least somewhat sane

[hard plume]

Oooo that looks nice…but wheres my angel skin dammit!!!!

[radiant prism]

Which one?

[fervent grotto]

Salt will kill the slugs that inhabit it!

[hard plume]

Any new one, we had skins for everyone else but my boy, my hero

[radiant prism]

Ohh, gotcha.

Just more skins for anyone in general and I'm happy, Rao hadn't received anything new either

[visual gazelle]

Wow, that actually looks functional.

[fervent grotto]

The Pc master race subreddit just salty that a kid on his deathbed plays better than them

[hard plume]

I’m gonna have to report you for the homicide

[shy latch]

angel already had the headgear skin (tactical beanie), as of now the ones that didn't receive any skin trough weekly missions are: Falk, Dozer, Sundance, Casper, Boris and Paik

[hard plume]

Poor dozer

[radiant prism]

Falck did have one skin actually

[vale pier]

So if you don't do the weekly challenge you can't get this later? If that's true they really can't get things right, can they. I'm not reinstalling the game just to get that, but we start see ok cosmetics and it's a FOMO skin. fuck off

[shy latch]

which one? 🤔

[radiant prism]

They've already said they're working on a way to bring all this stuff out later. Also...this really shouldn't be difficult, quite literally just playing the game should unlock you this skin...unless getting 3 intel ribbons, killing 20 enemies, and capturing 10 objectives is tough for you to do in an entire week

[radiant prism]

The orange and white one, looks kinda like a coast guard-ish one? Irish and Sundance both have something similar

[shy latch]

oh yeah, but that was with Amazon Prime or something similar, not with a weekly mission

[vale pier]

I'd have to install the game. Not doing that just for one thing. FOMO can go fucking die.

[radiant prism]

No, the purple ones were Amazon prime. The orange ones were weeklies, I have Irish's

[radiant prism]

Well, if you install the game once they bring all this back later, like they've said they want to do, that shouldn't be an issue.

[vale pier]

FOMO, weirdly, makes me want to play a game LESS

[radiant prism]

Its not the dev's fault if you don't want to complete very simple tasks because you don't actually have the game installed. They aren't updating the game for you lmao

[shy latch]

mmh, not sure about Falck orange skin I need to check; Irish yes, it was a wm

[vale pier]

point went over your head I see

[radiant prism]

No, I got your point entirely, I get the frustration over missing something. I'm just saying that kinda falls flat when the challenges are so braindead easy that one casual play session over the next week should unlock this for anyone.

I'd be singing a different song if you needed to hit 12 rendezooks or play 5 DLC maps for this

The fact that you don't have the game installed isn't the dev's fault lol

[vale pier]

With a normal working title sure, but 2042 is not that. DICE should not be using FOMO to bring players into their game. Fix the game and ADD content and KEEP IT. Pretty simple

FOMO is awful in all games and no one should support it no matter how "easy" it is to get

[radiant prism]

I mean, if you're so resistant to coming back to the game, to quite literally just playing the game for 30 minutes, DICE can't really do anything about that and you might should just go find another game to care about if you can't be assed to even give it a shot.

[arctic grove]

Hello. WHat happen with the BF2042 petition? Many here said the petition would fix everything.

[vale pier]

I'll give it a shot when they fix it lol

[shy latch]

we are both right: Falck orange skin was a December skin from Amazon Gaming, Falck purple skin is a today skin from Amazon Gaming
here the source with a link to claim the skins: https://twitter.com/T0TALfps/status/1471184347302662152

[radiant prism]

The wide community consensus right now is that the update last week massively improved the state of the game. If you're not even willing to update it and see how it is, once again, that's not the dev's fault and you maybe need to lower your standards a bit if you actually care about the game

You serioulsy cannot raise hell over challenges that quite literally just require playing one(1) match

[vale pier]

DICE could not do FOMO. It's their choice and they are choosing to go the shit route of adding and REMOVING content.

There is no downside to just KEEPING the content in, no?

Gotta be dumb to think FOMO is what's good for any game

[shy latch]

what is fomo?

[radiant prism]

Ok, but they're not removing it...anyone who unlocks it with the very easy challenges gets to keep it forever. And once again, DICE has already explicitly stated they're planning to bring all of this back later.

[radiant prism]

Fear Of Missing Out

[fervent grotto]

Guys I get to take NWEA today I’m so happy

[vale pier]

Fear Of Missing Out. Content that is only available during specific time. 2042 has skins that you can only get for one week. Game needs more content, but they are dead set on not adding it

[radiant prism]

Once again...and Im starting to feel like I'm talking to a wall here...they're gonna bring all this back later.

[hearty flame]

iirc dice is looking to add ways to get missed weeklies

[radiant prism]

Thank you holy shit

Not like anyone who gives two shits about the game will miss getting this weekly anyways

[hearty flame]

but i mean its safe to assume that this would be fomo though because its not often that missables are given ways to get them again
they only stated that 2? weeks ago

[silk surge]

Fuck yes!! https://twitter.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1522188199031889920?s=20&t=sQ6NJbThiO_2EgIKJKcE_g

Battlefield Direct Communication (@BattlefieldComm)

These two Featured Experiences are proving popular, and we want to continue to deliver experiences you enjoy playing.

As of today, we plan to include either Flashback Conquest or Infantry Conquest in each #BattlefieldPortal Rotation Update for the foreseeable future.

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Twitter · May 5, 2022, 12:15 PM

[fervent grotto]

Dice is being a little dick to try and get us to play their game. Like just fix the weeklies! “No, those will be fixed in the next patch, 4.1”

[uncut bay]

fuck yeah

[radiant prism]

I mean I get his point don't get me wrong. There's just extraneous factors here that take that apart IMO

[hearty flame]

it was a post on a forum. barely anyone is gonna know that though

[frank rain]

It's tracking properly thanks I got it

[fervent grotto]

Your welcome

[frank rain]

Yeh yeh yeh yeh weekly mission not bugged and it's tracking yeh yeh

[slow mortar]

Flashback conquest is what exactly

[radiant prism]

Conquest, but for BF3/BC2/1942 IIRC

[silk surge]

2042 soldiers, PORTAL maps

[vale pier]

Just the fact that DICE thought these challenges working how they do now was a good idea, tells me enough. I cannot wait to see the shit show when they open up the store. We might truly be able to dress up as clowns

[slow mortar]

Oh ok

They should put in at least 4 more portal maps

[lilac dust]

Why did enough people complain about 1942 maps that they got removed from the flashback mode ... I will take a floating turd if it means more content. A shit map is still content

Now people are just gonna complain that we need more portal maps as a result. I know we already do, but this just
exacerbates the problem

[uncut bay]

only complaint i had was el alamein, genuinely the worst map in the entire game including aow

felt like i was playing squad again

[keen swift]

Why do people hate 2042 so much? It’s one of the best games that came recently?

[uncut bay]

you must've not played many games

[vale pier]

That's bait

[keen swift]

Battlefield 2042 > BF4 and BF3

[craggy cliff]

Had fun with all the tanks on El Alamain. Good that people keep complaining about everything. Already helped BF5.

[keen swift]

What does that mean

[uncut bay]

yeah that's all el alamein is good for, sitting in vehicles. The rest of the team has to run around like headless chicken because the map is one giant desert with 3 POIs

[lilac dust]

BF4 is leaps and bounds better than 2042 but the leap forward in graphics and gameplay is definitely gonna serve new maps well and 2042 will get kinda close to BF4 potentially

[craggy cliff]

I always play inf. Just liked the stupid amount of vehicles.

[radiant prism]

I think people who say that have to take off their rose tinted glasses. BF4 was fantastic for when it released (after it actually started functioning), but its just graphically and mechanically dated compared to modern titles at this point...which is to be expected, what, 10 years later?

[lilac dust]

Damn right BF4 looks like dogshit graphically today, but content wise it was a masterpiece IMO

[uncut bay]

i mean i wouldn't call bf3 or 4 dogshit, they hold up incredibly well today. Frostbite was and still is a very good looking engine

[craggy cliff]

And my main game has been HLL for the last year and a half, so I guess I am immune to running simulator fatigue. ^^

Played a few rounds of BF3 recently. Still fun.

[lilac dust]

It had moments of beauty, but there was some unforgivable shit like textures not loading at the start of a game that never truly got fixed

Hell BF3 didn't even have that problem which is weird

But aside from that BF4 is king

If 2042 can match BF4's level of content then we're talking

[clear quail]

yoooo new rao skin les goo

[radiant prism]

Does look pretty hype

[clear quail]

bruv its sick

[lilac dust]

ngl I'm logging in this week just for that rao skin lol

[clear quail]

i thought they were gonna put that skin for season 1

[ionic ether]

That’s a really nice skin

[silk surge]

Ayy it finally showed up

[uncut bay]

it's pretty meh overall but the redeeming quality is that it covers his face

[silk surge]

Temp datamined that headgear months ago

[radiant prism]

Less is more if you ask me, sometimes the simpler stuff looks best

[radiant prism]

Actually...he datamined it last week

You might be thinking of the Spetznaz helmet for Boris that we still haven't got (and might not get anytime soon tbh)

[next onyx]

I'll say it again. They need to put portal maps in conquest 64.

They're good maps!

[surreal crystal]

Drop wen doe

[radiant prism]

what

[solid imp]

Been saying this for ages... there are great maps that could be dropped into AOW but why just 64? I thought they specifically tweaked the maps to expand them so ready for 128.

Valpo is twice the width now

And I'm sure the ceiling is higher but not a pilot so don't really know

[silk surge]

Yeah that's the one.

[radiant prism]

I wish we'd get it, but its in the same vein as that Hind skin, I can understand why we don't have it

[silk surge]

Valparaiso would probably work with 128p as is.

[visual gazelle]

Because the original maps were designed for 64 players to begin with (aside from the Bad Company 2 maps for 24 players). I believe it actually is possible to play them with 128 players, but they just won't flow as well as 64 players.

[silk surge]

Same with maps like El Alamein and Bulge.

[solid imp]

El Alamein is fine if everyone is in a vehicle.. that map feels like an AOW map in some ways 🙂

Except TDM on that map in the barracks area is the chef's kiss of TDM maps. It has sight lines but plenty of cover, spaces to move but frequent engagements, few bottlenecks but sometimes it pops up

[olive lake]

They did actually confirm weeklies that are missed will occasionally come back

Which is probably the only reassuring news for someone who's not been playing the game because their progression system sucks

[arctic grove]

Bruh, 2042 actually gave us that Rao helmet

That thing is dope as hell, time to unlock it ASAP

[vale pier]

I hope they said they WILL come back permanently. Anything they add should be earnable whenever you decide to do the challenges.

[arctic grove]

That’s all I want for specialists, dice

Balaclava, ballistic helmet, goggles

Praise this rao skin

[olive lake]

Would be nice. Especially for the PvE players who have been shafted really badly

[vale pier]

I'm pretty sure that people that are actually playing the game have missed out of stuff because of bugs and progress tracking issues. There is no need for anything to be removed once it is added.

[arctic grove]

Missed out on weeklies?

Okay I read up a bit, I’m not sure about you but since the first weekly challenge, personally I’ve been able to and have completed most of em

[olive lake]

Nah the PvE community is one major issue too. They promised full progression no matter how you played and a lot of people bought the game specifically to play against the AI only. But the fact the farming exploits were overlooked basically instead of capping portal only, they ruined it for everyone and have said nothing on the matter since.

Its all cosmetics so we should be allowed to earn it the way we want to.

[arctic grove]

Guns and attachments

Vehicle weapons and modifications

[night vessel]

That's a damn Russian helmet on a wrong faction member

[arctic grove]

Rao is meant to be Russian team oriented, pretty sure

[radiant prism]

Rao is technically Russian-affiliated according to the pattern on his T4 uniform

[vale pier]

Oh that's a separate issue really. Defo should change though. Full progression should be earnable in solo/coop modes for sure.

[thorny orchid]

theyre no pats

[radiant prism]

(although for whatever reason they gave him an M5A3 and have Condors in the background in the promo image lol)

[olive lake]

Glad you agree. As for portal, there's definitely ways they could make it playable without making it farmable.

[radiant prism]

But yeah Rao is technically with the russians in this game

[silk surge]

I love the new PORTAL TDM mode

[night vessel]

Idk man I rather have that helmet be given to big boss Boris

[vale pier]

Wish they would go the full length and make characters locked to certain teams...

[olive lake]

Like maybe cap max XP earned with bots enabled in portal only, make it so moderate or full counts so long as bots are enabled but nothing else.

[silk surge]

Its so insanely fast-paced

[night vessel]

I know right. Big man Boris is being left out

[radiant prism]

If I was on my laptop I’d show how they’re already effectively split by team

[vale pier]

Can I play as Rao on US and RU? yes. Then no, they aren't split

[radiant prism]

I mean cosmetically

[vale pier]

Also not true.

[radiant prism]

5 have more US/NATO oriented skins, 5 have RU oriented skins.

Opinion or not, it’s true, and I have the pics to prove it. (On my laptop, which I will get as soon as I can)

[vale pier]

But those skins can be used on any team. I get your point, but it seems useless in actual gameplay

[radiant prism]

Yes, but there’s at least some distinction for those who care about those sort of things

I’m the kind of person who splits up my loadout by faction, so this works just fine for me tbh

Once I can get on my laptop I’ll show that there’s definitely some split by faction

[willow sky]

not sure though, but is it possible to have all the maps rotating for portal in conquest 64?

[frail furnace]

this game needs more guns lol

at least in just the 2042 part lol

[olive lake]

I find it insanely stupid that as of now, you can earn more XP with bots only on portal than on fucking AOW Solo/Co-op

Doing a objective on portal is like 200xp but with AOW Solo/Co-op you don't even get that.

Even then, that's not saying much you get fuck all from both

[frail furnace]

yeah

[olive lake]

And this whole feedback system is just pointless

[radiant prism]

The NATO operators

[olive lake]

They only want to listen to what they want to listen to.

[thorny orchid]

being a furry is pointless

we should all be worms on a birds nest

[radiant prism]

And the RU specialists

[olive lake]

Wow what a good observation.

Be more creative with your insults

[thorny orchid]

yes...now convert from furry to worm

[thorny orchid]

why furry?

are they paying you?

is it the drugs? police?

[radiant prism]

He's not hurting anyone by enjoying a certain artstyle lmao

[thorny orchid]

Furry is more than just an artstyle

[radiant prism]

Zero need to be toxic, despite how much you may find it "cringe"

[thorny orchid]

You should do some research into it.

[radiant prism]

I know damn well what it is. Doesn't excuse being toxic about it.

[thorny orchid]

You obviously don't if you are so open to it. When you see a furry you have to question their motives

Discord literally almost got shutdown because of them

[radiant prism]

And so Max here is somehow to blame for that? Just because he happens to fit a certain label, even though I'd be shocked if he had anything to do with that incident?

Might as well say all arabs are terrorists or something racist at this point

Same sort of logic, though it may not be on quite the same level of severity

[thorny orchid]

No he is not to blame. I just said we must question his motives as he is apart of the furry community.

[radiant prism]

His motives are enjoying whatever he wants to enjoy, he's not hurting anyone else by doing that.

[thorny orchid]

You know this? You are associated with this guy? You a furry too?

[radiant prism]

I haven’t seen anything to suggest otherwise.

[thorny orchid]

Ok man. You're being toxic rn ngl

Assuming something about somebody you don't even know is crazy

[silk surge]

You guys should try the Countdown gamemode, best TDM gamemode they've added so far

[radiant prism]

Man, it’s almost like that’s what you’ve been doing this whole time

[thorny orchid]

I heard about that mode. Might redownload the game now

[lyric solar]

Lmao right

[radiant prism]

I’m not a furry, but I have a lot of friends who are, and they’re some of the kindest people I know with not a thing wrong with them. I may have my differences with Max, but there’s not a thing I’ve seen him say for some time now that would imply he’s a bad person to me.

You, on the other hand, have taken one glance at his PFP and assumed he’s something bad.

[olive lake]

Honestly, yeah we may not agree with each other, but I do have to give you respect for standing up like that.

[silk surge]

The rules are that once you get your first kill, you have to get the next kill within 30 seconds or you die. Every kill you get refills your health and magazine, so you can get some nasty multikills in this mode. It's so insanely fast-paced, because you constantly have to be on the move.

[thorny orchid]

I like that. I like to see friends standing up for each other. Good job guys. A solid friendship

[undone bone]

This channel isn't for talking about furry's. Move on

[radiant prism]

There's a difference between debate and just human respect. The point where debate extends past factuality and targets personality is when things have gone too far.

[thorny orchid]

Im talking about friendship tho?

[undone bone]

Unless you're talking about the friendships gained from playing 2042 I fail to see how it's relevant to this channel.

[thorny orchid]

💀

[lyric solar]

Did the weekly reset finally happen?

[radiant prism]

yup, new helmet for Rao!

[lyric solar]

Sick! I’ll have to check out the challenge requirements!

[radiant prism]

Easy stuff, shouldn't take much time at all

[lyric solar]

Oh awesome! That looks amazing

[olive lake]

Oh it really is just a helmet

I thought it was a full set.

[radiant prism]

Yeah its just the helmet. The promo image is his default torso, and the picture down below is the Balidan T4 torso

[lyric solar]

Well regardless it looks nice

[olive lake]

Still can't be bothered since I'm forced to play against players and doing that results in getting mowed down by S rank players

[lyric solar]

Lol yeah S ranks are pretty good

[olive lake]

They would be because they play this game all the time...

And that's pretty much all that's left nearly. I just freaking wish I could play this without the stress of that.

[keen swift]

Do you enjoy 2042?

I think it’s one of the best battlefields ever

[undone bone]

I do, excited to see season 1 release.

[olive lake]

Like honestly, I know a lot of folks here don't like me for preferring to play the way I want to, but at the end of the day. I just want this game to deliver on what it promised. I want it to be good like everybody else here.

I'm not hating this game for the sake of hating it.

[gentle crag]

can anyone see the weekly mission requirements?

[keen swift]

I think the game is flawless

[undone bone]

I'm just confused on why your focus is purely PvE orientated. Haven't basically all mp for battlefield games previous been PvP?

[lyric solar]

Same, it’s the first one I’ve stuck around to play and unlock things. All the other ones I’ve kinda just popped on and left every once and a while. Like BfV and 4 I did play the hell out of 1 though

[keen swift]

10/10 for me

[lyric solar]

Here’s the requirements

[undone bone]

That's a pre big stretch mate. Don't get me wrong; it is indeed fun. Far from perfect though

[gentle crag]

ty

[lyric solar]

Up there

Yup

[olive lake]

They have, yes. But they did openly announce they were including bots and progression with it and that's exactly how it was day one. This whole cap is supposed to be temporary. Its never too late for a game to open up with new options.

Just because it is pvp at its core doesn't mean it by default can't be something else as well

[undone bone]

I understand that, I was making the statement under the assumption that you'd previously played bf mp.

[keen swift]

Honestly I don’t get why ppl hate 2042

[olive lake]

I did, but this generation of gaming in pvp is awful.

So much toxicity, always being mowed down by people who play the game all day and everyday, never winning a single match, I'm tired of all that.

[undone bone]

I think PvP is just getting bland personally.

[lyric solar]

Bugs, glitches, open maps, etc. I don’t see it as that big of an issue rn. But whatever. Maybe the cover issue.

[olive lake]

Its just not fun at all.

[undone bone]

Needs more content and proper gameflow on existing maps.

And: Lock. Gadgets. To. Specialist. Classes.

[lyric solar]

I just don’t like being blown up by helis every time I spawn.
Exactly

[next onyx]

Game could use a bit more of a balance patch.

[undone bone]

Primarily this is a big one for me.

[olive lake]

I mean, look at the Plants Vs Zombies Garden Warfare series. That game is PvP at its core but it openly offers options to those who prefer PvE as well. Like a co-op game mode and options to play PvP modes against bots only.

[keen swift]

The maps aren’t that big in 2042. I think specialists was a good idea.

[olive lake]

And the best part? You can progress fully if you play on the hardest difficulty.

[lyric solar]

Compared to previous games their massive

[next onyx]

I don't mind specialists I hate how they're balanced.

That's my concern.

[lyric solar]

Depends if your playing 64 players or 128 though

[undone bone]

There would also be a much broader meta if gadgets were still class locked.

[olive lake]

If 2042 did just that where you need to play the hardest difficulty for full progression, I'd be totally fine with that change.

[keen swift]

No the maps are amazing. No issue for me.

But how does Vanguard have better destruction than 2042?

[arctic grove]

Hi im a furry

[next onyx]

I liked the original class system since classes would be specifically balanced around the weapons.

[olive lake]

Like hell, scale the earnings on difficulty. Like easy is X0.25, normal is X0.50 and hardest is X1.00

[next onyx]

You could go trench carbine, flare and beacon. But you were relegated to support with some cqc. But medics would do better up close.

[lyric solar]

I definitely don’t see an issue with them besides some open parts of the map. Like hourglasses open sand dunes. Or breakaways ice caps. I think orbital is fine, I’ve also come to grow on renewal. I really like renewal recently

[arctic grove]

What's the best sensitivity on ps4 for bf2042

[thorny orchid]

You believe in friendship?

[next onyx]

Eh?

[thorny orchid]

I do as I saw it in this chat earlier

[keen swift]

Hello do you like fortnite. can you play fortnite with me?

[arctic grove]

💀

[thorny orchid]

Maybe. If you are good

[lyric solar]

Oh god here we go again...

[keen swift]

i am good at battlefield 2042. I don’t get why ppl hate this game. it’s the best game that came out in the last decade in my opinion. underrated title😔

[thorny orchid]

But I prefer 2042 atm. I like how you can build like fortnite

[keen swift]

yes. the maps in 2042 are so big like fortnite that’s why I like them

[thorny orchid]

and there is destruction like fortnite

[keen swift]

yes that’s why I started playing battlefield when I turned 12 in 2018

[thorny orchid]

wait 12 in 2018? hold on

so u never played bf3? that was the last bf game I played

[undone bone]

bf3 was the first bf I ever played.

[keen swift]

i played bf3 as soon as it released

[undone bone]

Made me disown CoD pre much.

[arctic grove]

Greetings

[thorny orchid]

so you were 3 years old?

[keen swift]

no I turned 12 when bf3 came out. i turn 12 every couple of years.

[thorny orchid]

ahh I see

[arctic grove]

[keen swift]

it’s a bit complicated I know

[thorny orchid]

no...I completely understand

[arctic grove]

Why is slowmode activated? I only see 4 people in here and 1 is a mod

[thorny orchid]

So you can appreciate every text you send

[keen swift]

yes appreciate 2042.

[olive lake]

Hm...Got a bad feeling

[keen swift]

cant wait for season 1

[undone bone]

Chat frequently moves at a much faster pace.

[thorny orchid]

About what?

[keen swift]

when does season one come out

[jolly sleet]

june 16th

[keen swift]

for Battlefield twenty forty two

[thorny orchid]

hopefully soon. I kinda dont want to go back to fort

[arctic grove]

Ah, just seems like it would make more sense to activate slowmode when the chat gets busy, I’m assuming this happens at certain hours

[lyric solar]

I think fortnite went downhill ever since chapter 1 ended

[undone bone]

I tried it again recently tis quite good without building. S1 release for 2042 will be awesome though granted it doesn't break the game.

[keen swift]

so Vanguard is in season 3 and the new Midwarfare got announced and season one is yet to be released??? Why :((((

[thorny orchid]

cmon bro...dont tell lies

both fortnite and 2042 are amazing games

[lyric solar]

Fortnite is good with friends

[undone bone]

Slowmode is a channel setting, requires admin permissions to edit. Or would require creating a bot that has admin perms that'd do it automatically.

[jolly sleet]

fortnite with the light sabers and no build is sm fun

[thorny orchid]

I wish the best for everyone. everyone have a good year and the rest of your day. good bye

[keen swift]

i cant wait for season one to be announced. it will destroy everything!

[keen swift]

Goodbye my friend!

[still vault]

Does anyone have this weeks mission? I'm one of the unlucky ones that don't see it.

[lyric solar]

Yeah Hold on

[thorny orchid]

❤️

[keen swift]

Are you interested in men by any chance

[lyric solar]

Here is the weekly

[thorny orchid]

No...I'm sorry

[undone bone]

Sounds like a conversation for DMs boys.

[keen swift]

ok i will go play fortnite with my stepdad

[arctic grove]

I would like to join this conversation

[keen swift]

you like men?

[arctic grove]

Perhaps

[keen swift]

omg finally! i love kissing men. especially men who play fortnite and 2042 with me

[still vault]

Yeah, just stop this convo now.

[keen swift]

Why 😦

[still vault]

inappropriate and off-topic

[arctic grove]

At least he kept this comment

[still vault]

No but trolling is so just stop it.

[keen swift]

😡

[thick copper]

k bye

[arctic grove]

What does someone need to do to be a moderator around here?

[thick copper]

the thing

[arctic grove]

🍑 💋

[thick copper]

no
The Thing
from marvel

[arctic grove]

[safe sable]

[still vault]

Last time. This chat is about 2042. Anything else is off-topic and trolling to derail #battlefield-2042 is not allowed. Read the #500058972234055710 and if you want to discuss moderation do so to ModMail.

[still vault]

How to apply is listed in #info

[arctic grove]

👍

[lyric snow]

guzs what do i have to do to get this week's raos headgear? i can't see the tasks

[lyric snow]

thanks

[still vault]

np 🙂

[ruby saffron]

That’s some pretty nice gear

[low timber]

Lol, Rao looks weird with the T1 torso and current weekly headgear.

Color wise

[radiant prism]

Yeah I definitely won't be combining those two

I don't really use T1 outfits anyways even though most of my specialists are T1 by now anyways

[low timber]

I am, because I like the headgear and I need to show off the T1 somehow

[empty bloom]

woke up from my coma

can i have season 1 now

[low timber]

Might only go away from T1 stuff once something extraordinary better comes, like the legendary SWS-10 skin.

[radiant prism]

Fair lol. I usually just rep T1 on my card

[low timber]

I already have AK-24, Sundance and Dozer on my card.

[radiant prism]

I think I have Dozer, Mackay, and Rao on mine? Dunno

[undone bone]

Me trying to get Boris'

[radiant prism]

Im only like level 20 something on Boris lmao

[low timber]

Doing Boris right now in portal, 53,591/60k

[undone bone]

What is it for T1 again; 50?

[low timber]

40

[undone bone]

Ah then i'm like 32 or somethin

Purely from AOW

It has been a severe struggle.

[low timber]

Arica Harbor has been great to grind it, especially A1

[tiny imp]

Flashback CQ is back yaaoooo

[undone bone]

Sucks the fact that you can no longer place the turret on smaller ledges like you could at launch.

[clear quail]

same

[undone bone]

Use to be able to set a turret up on the B2 roof in manifest on the ledge of the roof's curb thing.

[radiant prism]

So wait is Flashback CQ just 2042 stuff on old maps?

[tiny imp]

yes, 2042 factions on old maps

[radiant prism]

Oh hell yeah, gonna play the shit out of that this week then

[tiny imp]

But they have removed El-alamein and Battle of the bulge

[radiant prism]

Yeah I saw

I wish Bulge was still there but the other maps should be good

[celest sinew]

I'm a bit confused on why they removed Battle of the Bulge but We still have most of the good maps still available

[low timber]

Ok, just got killed by an invisible enemy…

[slate meadow]

When is the all chat coming ?

[celest sinew]

Hopefully never

Team chat is bad enough toxicity wise

[slate meadow]

But I want to be able to tell my enemies what a good game it was

[celest sinew]

That's just my opinion though

[next onyx]

Yeah 2042 specialists and guns on old maps. It's good since the maps are actually good.

[celest sinew]

Yeah thats reasonable dude but some of the stuff if seen in Team Chat is uh not great

[next onyx]

I got killed by one a bit ago as well Marse, They weren't normally invisible which made it all the weirder.

[slate meadow]

Is it full xp?

[celest sinew]

FlashBack CQ is full XP

[radiant prism]

Yeah, featured modes are full progression

[slate meadow]

Nice might give that ago

[radiant prism]

As well as some custom modes now

[celest sinew]

FlashBack CQ is really fun if your getting bored

[slate meadow]

Nothing worse then looking at your group and it being 4 Boris 😂

[tiny imp]

Is the best mode in whole game. Im glad DICE figured out that

[next onyx]

The maps are just fun, That's what makes flashback conquest fun.

[celest sinew]

I normally play the specialist that my squad would need

Like if we have two tank killers ill go Angel with an Ammo Bag

Or Falk with a Medical Crate

[low timber]

I’d really want to know what portal maps S1 brings us

[next onyx]

I just play for myself without a care in the world, Reviving where necessary and stuff haha.

I'd play breakthrough and grind out angel with the ammo box but eh.

[dire quest]

Why are the featured experiences on portal never 64v64?

[next onyx]

Not sure.

Can't complain about that though.

[celest sinew]

Even if all the stuff is unlocked for specialists i try to stick to what the class would have, I dunno i find the game a bit more refreshing when I do it

[dire quest]

32v32 feels too empty

[slate meadow]

Bro wtf I actually just got killed by an invisible player

[next onyx]

On the maps made for it, it doesn't.

[celest sinew]

You know as Broken as 128 players is I find a bit of Enjoyment in it. Probably just the utter chaos keeps me focused

It has its moments but I still prefer the 32v32

[dire quest]

128 players on 64 player size maps tho....

[celest sinew]

128 is good for grinding specialists tl

Tho*

[radiant prism]

128 is good for chaos too

[celest sinew]

Yeah I say if they refine the map design a decent bit 128 would be really fun

I know they are already working on certain maps which is a really good step forward

[slate meadow]

Bro is this for real a god mode in bf2042 now ?

[next onyx]

Invisible players? It's a glitch.

[celest sinew]

Its a bug dude

[next onyx]

I'm not sure how it's triggered.

[radiant prism]

No one knows how its triggered, but its pretty rare.

[next onyx]

Bit of a problem but it seems to be client side for people.

[clear quail]

must be cuz of covid

[celest sinew]

Yeah its only happened once for me

[next onyx]

One might not see them but another can.

[slate meadow]

A glitch ? I literally can't see them it's like they are stood right behind me and I'm just running past them and then I'm getting meller or headshot

[celest sinew]

Yeah its a glitch

Dont know how many times its gotta be said

Its a bug DICE are working on

[slate meadow]

What so I could be invisible and not know it?

[celest sinew]

Client issues

So yeah

[velvet sand]

Huh, I guess the Portal solutoin for flashback CQ/infantry only CQ is better than getting 3 shit modes twice a week, but man is that kinda a boring solution. Better than nothing and at least we'll consistently have one mode worth playing and not like 3 garbage hardcore modes at once.

Now if only DICE could get off their butts and deliver the specialist feedback loop that's already 2-3 weeks after when they said it was supposed to kick off.

[celest sinew]

Last I checked they were still working on feedback for the Map Feedback Loop

[velvet sand]

They finished that and "closed" the loop at the start of April with a blog post.

Now we just wait until the end of S1 for the minor changes to the two maps.

[celest sinew]

I don't know though but I've got Faith DICE can really change this game for the better

[tiny imp]

They have already confirmed they will not remove specialists on this game. So dont expect to much

[celest sinew]

Nah the Changes aren't really minor

[hearty flame]

im sure they know how itll go
Dice: what do you think about specialists?
lots of feedback: we want to get rid of it
dice: cant do that

[velvet sand]

I want to believe, but I continue to have no faith/trust in DICE.

[celest sinew]

They are changing how the maps flow and removing whole parts that aren't used as much

[velvet sand]

Ye, not expecting that, but very curious as to what they've been planning/working on for months on this. Or not working on for moths, who knows what they're working on.

[olive lake]

Its the same people who put earplugs in and don't listen to key feedback

[celest sinew]

The Farm Area on Renewal could be removed

[velvet sand]

Not really. Tons of huge, wasted space still remains. Mostly moving around flags and adding some more cover (half of which is boring shipping containers, but some slightly more in-depth changes to a few locations on each map). It looks like the work a map modder could do in a weekend.

[celest sinew]

Objective C2 on breakthrough if your curious

Well remember they still have to make the maps work for 128 players

[velvet sand]

oh wait, one building is being nixed on renewal so they have more budget to add cover elsewhere

[celest sinew]

They have already said they will Adress the lack of cover and make the maps fit more in line with the Lore of the game

Add Military emplacements,camps make the area look more occupied and such

[velvet sand]

And the proposed changes, which will take 3-4 months of work, are fairly underwhelming.

[celest sinew]

Well I doubt they are going to change the maps entirely

If they are underwhelming in some peoples eyes that fine

I think it'll be fine

[hearty flame]

well seeing as dice is fighting to improve their public perception on 2042, underwhelming is definitely not gonna cut it

[celest sinew]

I agree on that statement

I think they can pull it off

[velvet sand]

If they can start meeting their self-imposed deadlines, that might help. But they can't even meet the deadlines they publicly set for themselves.

[celest sinew]

If any of yall remember the literally unplayable state of BF4s launch 2042s launch doesn't seem that bad

[hearty flame]

i remember bf4s launch being fine for me so 2042s was worse then Vs

[velvet sand]

Man am I tired of, "Oh, DICE always launches the game like dogshit, don't worry fam" argument, especially when the studio has literally launched games in a largely dogshit state for a decade and apparently learned nothing over that time about needing to ship a complete game.

[slate meadow]

Game is unplayable with this bug

Been knifed to death like 12 times

[celest sinew]

And what's happened to those games that launched poorly

[hearty flame]

the invisible enemies? at least its not like V where multiple customization options could go invisible

[velvet sand]

Lame dude. Sadly it's been in the game sinc launch, just seems more rare than it used to be : (

[celest sinew]

They've become great and enjoyable

[velvet sand]

Mostly, yes. But why we're still fine with paying full-price for a game that takes DICE 12+ months to actually "finish" is beyond me.

[hearty flame]

they become ok. they only become enjoyable when the next newest bf launches and is bad

[eternal flume]

Couldn't see shit in V

[slate meadow]

The game I'm in right now a dude on my own team has invisible vehicles 😂

[hearty flame]

it was fun being killed by a sliding pair of trousers using the type 2a cuz everything else they were wearing was invisible

[velvet sand]

Invisible vehicles is actually hilarious when you see people floating around in the air, at least.

[slate meadow]

He is invisible and his weapon and the vehicle he is going mad in chat 😂

[eternal flume]

How would close quarters maps even work in 42 though

Just imagine the large amount of grenade spam from 128 players

[velvet sand]

Yo, gimme that insane bullshit. Give us a remade/updated metro with 128 players for absolutely hilarious chaos.

[eternal flume]

That would be absolutely hilarious and frustrating at the same time

[worn whale]

should I download 2042 again

[karmic phoenix]

what are the challenges for this week?

[karmic phoenix]

maybe not yet

but if you wanna try go for it

[hexed mango]

4.0 has proven quite fun tbh

[velvet sand]

lol, the challenge display is still broke? Hopefully the vague, nebulous "May patch" fixes it, despite that we know nothing about it yet.

[karmic phoenix]

yeah i dont see it so i wanna know what to do

[worn whale]

when it gets better, it just lack of content there is nothing new there ukno

[radiant prism]

Here's the stuff for the weekly, should still track just fine

[karmic phoenix]

thanks :D

[velvet sand]

Oh good, I was going to find the requirements on the BF Twitter but I guess they didn't post it yet.

[glossy storm]

Damn, nice skin.

This is how he should be appearing by default, IMO.

[velvet sand]

Finally, more ways to hide the stupid specialists faces and feel like we're playing generic soldiers again.

[radiant prism]

drippin

[glossy storm]

Generic soldiers just look and feel cooler than glorified characters in a BF game.

[velvet sand]

Really does feel like the skins have gotten better since Marcus came on board and there's finally someone in charge of "narrative" that doesn't want to make the game into a clown circuis.

[hearty flame]

Only took 6 months for dice to release a cosmetic that fanbase that left wants

[slate meadow]

Do any guns other then the k30 exist in this game

[glossy storm]

I hope DICE doesn't make the visor too transparent like they did with Mackay's futuristic outfit. Although, they've restored it to the way it was advertised for Mackay now.

[velvet sand]

They've had a few other good ones (Mackay skin for the gold/ultimate bundle folks). Seems like their direction was WAY off base...but since Marcus came on board he's been getting the art direction back on-track for BF and moving away from the Fortnite-esque angle it was initially going. Because Fortnite-esque skins are truly a "love letter to the fans"

[radiant prism]

@glossy storm I mean here's the in-game screenshot, so it looks good lol

[velvet sand]

They fixed that! It's much more tinted now.

[hearty flame]

Marcus is doing narrative stuff not art stuff.

[velvet sand]

Art is an expression of the narrative, my dude.

[glossy storm]

Cool.

[radiant prism]

Also...can we give props to the smudges on the goggles? Just a nice little detail lol

[hearty flame]

I mean yes but he was brought on board to do story and lore for 2042. I doubt he has any say or input into the cosmetics of the game
seeing as hes also on an unknown studio in LA

[velvet sand]

He does, and he's even stated as much on Twitter. Cosmetics are part of the tone of the game and are really one of the only ways that the game is currently set up to deliver any "narrative".

[radiant prism]

Story often has weight on what cosmetics get released, especially if there's heavy theming in seasons

[hearty flame]

You got receipts for that claim?

[velvet sand]

I mean, I can try to find it, but he's talked about wanting to get the skins tonally back on track with "war shit" again after he got put in charge of the narrative of the BF franchise. Plus the tone of cosmetics changing away from "Woody skin" and towards" more military stuff" since a bit after he got on board.

[slate meadow]

This fucking game has the worst spawns I have ever seen

[hearty flame]

I cant say anything about going back on track when the only cosmetics really released are recolors for drops, a cowboy skin, the gold tier skin, and weapon camos
thats not much to go on but its still more goofy than what the fans that left want

[craggy marten]

Are they trynna make it so Rao was one of the soldiers in BF4?

Like, what's the idea here?

[still vault]

It's a skin

it's whatever you want it to be

[velvet sand]

Somehow I don't think this has anything to do with any actual "narrative" and more with "narrative tone" than anything else.

[ruby saffron]

Since when were there armed boats you can drive??

[hearty flame]

4 and v had some

[ruby saffron]

I’m talking in 2042

They suddenly just appeared in my games

[willow sky]

armed...boats?

[hearty flame]

That was fast. Tempo datamined boats yesterday

Rhibs at least

[ruby saffron]

Never seen these before, the all terrain vehicle yeah. But what the hell are the other two boats doing here

They weren’t there yesterday

[hearty flame]

I know those are defaults on 3 dunno about portal

[ruby saffron]

Yeah they never spawned in portal before

And they are spawning only for the 2042 faction

[velvet sand]

Which portal map? Because I've totally seen those armed boats before in the past few weeks. At least I'm 99% sure.

[ruby saffron]

It’s the 3 map canals

[hearty flame]

Noshir canal right?

[ruby saffron]

Saw one driving around on manifest though

Didn’t seem like anyone was in it tho, looked buggy as shit

[velvet sand]

Yeah, those have been there before. I don't see them every time I play but I've seen them driving on into the dock area.

[ruby saffron]

That’s bizarre, first time I’ve seen em

[hearty flame]

Well not many maps support boats lol

[glossy storm]

Are these driveable?

[still vault]

There we go, RAO headpiece aquired

[ruby saffron]

Yeah I can get in em

Also for portal, the host always joins the same team yes?

Been attempting to defend on rush with my server on noshir canal for a while

[crisp junco]

Damn
He actually looks kinda like a soldier now

[ruby saffron]

Boutta start grinding for the weekly

[pseudo breach]

They’re dumping all the good cosmetics to keep people coming back lol

[ruby saffron]

That’s how a live service should work

[hidden sand]

They plan to make those two modes permanent, but what about the BF3, BC2, and 1942 era?

[velvet sand]

Probably still part of the normal rotation. These were just the most popular/requested modes so that there's at least one desirable portal mode each rotation.

[hidden sand]

Hope they're frequent, you can't play in those eras with full progression unless by complete luck someone in the server browser has a default experience for one of them

[little dust]

remove body armor..............................................

[velvet sand]

Infantry-only mode be like, "If you don't pick the armor gadget you're fucked."

Or play Angel because his kit remains exceptionally strong in providing two-gadgets worth of bonuses with his active ability.

[hot bronze]

simply shoot the head

[velvet sand]

But armor protects from headshots still from my experience playing. It's not "body armor vs. helmet" like CS or anything, it just adds additional health to your health pool.

[hidden sand]

Angel is a one man army, can revive, resupply, and take on vehicles

[low timber]

Isn’t the Malware Maestro tag now impossible to unlock as Rao can’t spot anymore with his Cyberwarfare suite?

[hot bronze]

true but but if you hit head shots armor isnt realy a issue

@low timber hacking a person still spots just not the area spot

[velvet sand]

It is. Assuming roughly equal skill, if one person chooses armor and the other does you're at a de-facto disadvantage in an otherwise fair fight. It pressures players in infantry-only to pick Angle or armor to stay on an even footing with everyone else.

[next onyx]

Oh does his hack no longer spot.

[hot bronze]

it spots the person you hack

but not the area spot after killing the person

[next onyx]

Well the accumulative spot. Yikes.

[hot bronze]

if you care to get spots with him always hack transports. I could be wrong but Im pretty sure it spots everyone in the vehicle

[hidden sand]

This is part of why specialist can be so annoying, balance, and the fact certain cosmetics are locked to specific ones

Rao is useless, but he imo now has the best cosmetics currently

It will forever confuse me as to why they didn't keep BFVs cosmetic and class system

That way they could have their specialist, and still have classes

[velvet sand]

Because gotta chase that hero shooter money! Or the game being built as a BR initially if that's true.

Real though, an updated/expanded BFV character customization system would have been infinitely better.

[hidden sand]

And would have been more authentic to the lore lmao

[fiery shoal]

they gotta do something to compensate for the live service (even if its non existent as of now)

if you took bfv and added specialists it wouldnt be that bad, people try to associate one thing as the main reason 2042 sucks, its just basically a bunch of things that add up

[hidden sand]

BFV has "specialist", unless you mean the entire specialist system and no classes

[slate meadow]

You have never said anything that makes so much sence ever

And nyphon would you say it's a bunch it really obvious things that shouldn't have been an issue that are the issues

[fiery shoal]

do you mean "no classes" as in open loadouts? because those are not one in the same

[hidden sand]

Open Loadouts inherently mean no classes lol, you can be a medic and take on tanks, you can be a recon and heal, etc. The balance classes used to have are gone.

[velvet sand]

Maybe DICE (and EA studios in general) will start listening to early alpha testers instead of rejecting critical feedback because "The devs know better"

[fiery shoal]

im saying adding specialists doesnt mean theres some random rule that you have to have open loadouts too.. and while locked loadouts are synonymous with traditional classes, its not like classes simply dont exist because of open loadouts...

[slate meadow]

Well that would be nice but will EA and dices pride get in the way of greatness?

[velvet sand]

open loadouts are legit the only good thing about specialists

[fiery shoal]

theres a few obvious things, but i think theres other aspects that are more complicated than people lead onto

[velvet sand]

biggest problem with specialists remains the special/passive abilities, which are far too impactful and lower/raise the balance floor/ceiling far, far too much to try to create any kind of "consistent" balanced experience.

[slate meadow]

Would fixing them obvious things though not make the game way more playable and then the complex stuff can be sorted with more time

[hidden sand]

There is no rule saying you have to, but that's a null argument. Most people are going to use whatever now because that's what this system is designed for. The balance is gone.

[fiery shoal]

its not a null argument, youre suggesting that they go hand in hand, when you can have locked loadouts and addd specialists, the likely reason this didnt happen was lack of weapons to fill a class meaningfully and lack of time to balance

[hidden sand]

Nvm, I'm misunderstanding the point you're making. Didn't realize you were talking about future possibilities, my bad.

[velvet sand]

Big yes, lack of weapons would make any attempted return to the old class system (which I don't want, even) garbage. "Oh, enjoy the 4 weapons you have available to you as an engineer! WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!"

[fiery shoal]

ehh, i dont think so, theres a lot of little things that add up to being a bigger problem than on their own. even solving empty maps, open loadouts or getting rid of specialists wont really help overall

[hidden sand]

I think what's really frustrating as that given the usual hatred towards vehicles, they're getting essentially no feedback outside of "nerf this vehicle that's not even op because it killed me 2 times in a 30 min game"

[fiery shoal]

they just need to make kill farming vehicles as point drop in system so you at least have to earn them. its bs that someone can randomly pick a vehicle that triples their effectiveness

[velvet sand]

IMO the bigger problem is the core deign of vehicles as a concept within the new map/specialist system. Like, I don't think DICE is going to be able to meaningfully get a handle on it without completely tearing it down and starting from scratch again. Moving vehicles into different categories or nerfing weapons/armor or altering spawn times alone ain't gonna do it.

[hidden sand]

None of the current vehicles are truly op, poor map design has made them appear that way though.

[radiant prism]

ngl, been playing the flashback conquest...its kinda overrated. It feels way too empty now with only 64, ive been spoiled by 128

Idk, might just be me

[velvet sand]

I wish we could have 128, but the maps are so much better at least.

[radiant prism]

They honestly don't feel like the maps are really all that drastically better, IMO at least.