battlefield-2042

[fiery shoal]

manifest > discarded > orbital

[hexed mango]

idk i disagree, not just cause i fly them, but for example the hind and condor are completely useless unless you have people who know what they are doing gunning

[echo yew]

Little bird shouldn't have fucking rocket pods

hokum and apache sure but not the nightbird lmao

[still vault]

@uncut girder please read the server #500058972234055710 again. Especially 3 and 10

[echo yew]

"completely useless unless you have people who know what they are doing".... ????????? my guy that is balanced.

[dim blade]

i tried to have fun but it was impossible XD

[hexed mango]

yeah so why tf did you say helos should be nerfed

[dim blade]

Ok some moments were fun, the classic battlefield moments you get when playing battlefeild games

But they felt watered down

[echo yew]

cause anyone can go and farm kills with the littlebird

[hexed mango]

so play something else like fortnite, if that's more your speed

[dim blade]

I tried fortnite, it was okay i guess? (no build) not a big BR guy tho

[echo yew]

also please add a map filter

[hexed mango]

ok well the first message you just said "helicopters" so i was putting in a defense for 2 that i dont think should be nerfed

[dim blade]

BF4 and 1 are still my go to

[crude flame]

Not huge on BR either

[hexed mango]

portal.

[crude flame]

But I do like 2042.. the updates have been great. Looking forward to other updates

[echo yew]

this game keeps forcing me to play breakaway

[hexed mango]

it was a sarcastic comment but lol

[echo yew]

It refuses to choose any other map

god i hope MWII is good

20 times backing out of breakaway and counting

21...

[hexed mango]

breakaway isnt even that bad

[echo yew]

22....

[hexed mango]

well you know there's only a handful of gamemodes in a region at a time

[echo yew]

it's actually atrocious what do you mean.

[hexed mango]

so dont keep spamming the button, cause itll still take a bit for the next game to start

[echo yew]

it's like 10 times larger than what it should be

[hexed mango]

idk i find it relatively enjoyable, that's what i mean

[echo yew]

it has a small 200 meter area that is enjoyable somewhat the rest of the map makes no sense

empty ice fields and a glacier with actually no cover in it.

like... even for 128 players which isn't the problem these maps are 2 to 3 times the size they should be

on top of that they have no flow and are terribly designed

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/beuUo.gif

[arctic grove]

Hamada

[radiant prism]

ah yes its all on carbonic

[humble portal]

LMAOOOOOOO

[radiant prism]

Im curious what he got muted for now

[humble portal]

is there any hope for this game levelcap

and jackfrags are starting up the shill machine

[radiant prism]

Because anything you can get muted for on this server is nowhere near worth getting that mad about lmao

[hexed mango]

damn

[hexed mango]

he spammed "Refund!" like 50 times

[radiant prism]

Bruh

[humble portal]

i can't remember a game that fell shorter of expectations than this one, even cyberpunk or no man's sky i don't think meet it

[thick copper]

fallout 76

Avengers

[humble portal]

fallout maybe but no one cared about avengers dude

[hexed mango]

yet all the games listed (maybe besides avengers) actually got fixed

[thick copper]

you saying it didnt fall short

[hexed mango]

like i just played fo76 yesterday... it was fun

[humble portal]

combination of hype and expectations is the metric I am referring to

[radiant prism]

Yeah...no. This game is nowhere near as bad as that. It fell short, but if you ask me its due to MASSIVELY overinflated expectations. I don't mean all the no scoreboard or VOIP shit, I mean everyone practically expecting this to be a perfect game, which meant about 17 different things at once with the BF community.

[hexed mango]

i mean no mans sky was a very big deal cause it was an indie company making sort of a breakthrough game
cb77 was just good advertising hype

[thick copper]

remember when they got flooded.

[humble portal]

but virtually nothing about 2042 is an improvement over bfv that's a new low

[hexed mango]

plus, statistically speaking, bf launches are never 100% perfect

[thick copper]

some of the greatest karma of all time

[hexed mango]

and? bfv was massively hated at its launch... if anything the trend is consistent lol

[humble portal]

it's nowhere near as bad and never was. the core gameplay loop was/is miles better than 2042 and maps in 2042 are worst in the series

[thick copper]

V was the beginning of the end

[hexed mango]

tell that to reddit 2018

[thick copper]

the hint was the V
its all going V(down) from here

[radiant prism]

BF1 was a pretty big step back from BF4 in a lot of ways, but yet it remains one of the most hyped up games in the franchise. The previous game is a terrible metric to go by in BF, because every previous game is such a major shift in direction from the previous. Its rare that things get carried over, historically

[hexed mango]

yeah makes sense

[humble portal]

the game peaked at bf3

[thick copper]

ww1 doesnt have massive building and helicopters etc
so sure its not as destructive but its far more chaotic

[hexed mango]

and plus, individually aswell, each game has values and limitations
personally, I really enjoy 2042 because it is a game that tailors to things i enjoy
and yeah you can say it hasn't been going aswell from a general perspective, but i think its getting there and i have hope for its future

[thick copper]

those moments when you get a good battle where smoke, grenades and troops charging and shooting each other in a trench, epic...

[humble portal]

ever since bf3, the maps have steadily declined. Even building to building destruction i don't think has been improved since bf3

[radiant prism]

Yknow, by that logic, I've seen that exact same thing time and again in 2042 Breakthrough.

[humble portal]

bf4 had some great maps though bf1 had tons of terrible ones

[thick copper]

2042 feels more like airsoft

bf1 had the sound effects and the grimey setting too

[humble portal]

whats funny is the best map in franchise history, strike at karkand, was made in BF2 and is like twenty years old at this point

[radiant prism]

BF1 also had horrible gameplay

[ember nimbus]

Debatable

[thick copper]

extremely

[humble portal]

whats better than strike especially the bf3 revamp

[radiant prism]

Random Bullet Deviation, mortar, explosive spam, sweet spot, vehicle balance...the list goes on

Oh yeah suppression...thank god that went away

[thick copper]

which story was better
bad company 1 or 2

[arctic grove]

lulok

[next onyx]

Both were pretty good eman.

Though I'd say I liked 2's a bit more.

Actually talking about bad co.

[arctic grove]

100% there building that no one fights in because there out in the middle of no we’re

[hexed mango]

[humble portal]

if you can't see on face value how horrendous and non-dynamic the maps of 2042 are compared to franchise history i don't know what to tell you

[next onyx]

Did anyone hear echo's of the scaler weapon in 2042's trailers?

From bad co 2.

[hexed mango]

bro's grammar took a leave of absence

[next onyx]

If nobody remembers. In bad co 2 the plot revolved around the Japanese emp device that produced a specific hum.

[arctic grove]

To be honest

I like 2042s maps more

[arctic grove]

dyslexic

[next onyx]

It was referenced in 5 as an Easter egg and you hear something similar in the trailers leading up to 2042.

[thick copper]

nah hes just british

[humble portal]

lol how

[arctic grove]

Simple

I just do

[next onyx]

Check the name.

[humble portal]

i guess everyone is entitled to their opinion but damn you have bad taste

it's so bad the devs are reworking them haha

[arctic grove]

“I’m gonna respect your opinion without respecting it”

[humble portal]

thye never have done that before

[thick copper]

"tell me you respect my opinion without"

[arctic grove]

I think 2042s map concepts and the story behind them are better than the gameplay. That’s for sure that for a lot of people they don’t play well

[humble portal]

the devs are reworking them when they never have that's how bad they are no further point nees to be made

[thick copper]

maps are too flat, and wide they need to crop them

[arctic grove]

And even if they’ve never done that before, so what? Things happen, I’m not sure what dice expected but they didn’t expect the game to play how it did

[thick copper]

bf is good when the maps are smaller allows for better battles and more chaos

[humble portal]

it means that the backlash is so bad and so loud that it couldn't be ignored as it was in past entries. Don't get me wrong every entry has some bad maps

[thick copper]

also 6 months since launch and they still have poor respawn locations on sites that are contested

[arctic grove]

I was thinking that the other week when I was playing on the portal bf3 maps they are beautiful

Good, it’s being changed, what else is there to it

[humble portal]

all the best maps have infantry focusesd sections and vehicle focuses areas. Strike at Karkand, Capsian Border, Firestorm, st quentin scar

[arctic grove]

Which is probably going to be ridge

[thick copper]

Verdun was a great infantry focus map
amiens had a great P:V balance

[humble portal]

amiens another one that fits the prototype

[thick copper]

amiens is my fav map

[humble portal]

i like a good infantry map like ballroom blitz as well, but hate the operation locker variety

[arctic grove]

By the way with like 700hrs in bf4 as my most played bf, and 1 at second

I haven’t played every title but I played two of the most worshipped and their maps are nice. But I also like 2042s in concept and design

[thick copper]

sinai was the worst i think

[humble portal]

the new 2042 maps don't have good infantry areas they also are just boring layout like so uninventive

[arctic grove]

Sinai was never changed just like no map probably was in previous titles but that doesn’t mean some didn’t just suck

Joe doesn’t wanna talk about that

[thick copper]

i spent the early part of the game in that map blowing up the land bridge to stop camping on the mountain

[humble portal]

i thin sinai is bad but would prefer it over any 2042 map i think

[thick copper]

occasionally i get a kill when the bridge falls and i mock them

[arctic grove]

2042 becomes incredibly infantry focused on breakthrough. So maybe you just don’t bother to actually play, but if you play the game try that

Of course you would because 2042 bad let’s glorify the past

[thick copper]

the Antarctic map is alot larger than people realise, but everyone funnels down the same road

[arctic grove]

Yeah it’s like, 2 or something miles long

[humble portal]

i am one of the biggest bf fanbois 2042 is not worth anyone's time it should be abandoned completely

why dump resources the game is dead

[radiant prism]

That makes you inherently not a fanboy lmao

[arctic grove]

Yeah except unfortunately your fantasy isn’t coming to live and 2042 is legally going to be held onto for a year and likely dropped around the same time V was.

By the way, stop pulling steam stats as the total player count. You lose all sense of credibility the second you say that

[thick copper]

in 4 and 1
1 man can make a difference and wipe out a defensive position if they are clever.
in 2042 there are so many enemies that you are out of ammo by the time u have killed 5 people and the enemy defence hasn't changed at all

[radiant prism]

"I think we should kill this game because I don't like it" fuck outta here with that, you aren't a fan.

[hexed mango]

people said that about v so...

[humble portal]

i didn't pull steam stats? even though to say it's not a valid metric is even more egregious

[arctic grove]

And just look like another troll that doesn’t actually care, you just wanna bomb on the game

[near hare]

tbf, the game is kind of dead. its gaining playerbase but you still join in games with like 5 people and 20 + ai in it

[thick copper]

meta critics are paid to review them in positive light

[humble portal]

i do care i own every bf besides 2142

[hexed mango]

i mean it only accounts for a portion of the playercount.

[humble portal]

i have over 1k hours in bfv

[next onyx]

I wonder if I could find a flashback conquest game in OCE again.

[radiant prism]

Ive never joined a lobby with that few players lmao

[arctic grove]

It’s certainly dying in certain world regions no doubt about that

But the game isn’t dead if I can match make into 128 servers that are full in under 10 seconds in NA

[hexed mango]

well if there was 20 ai, there would be 108 normal players, and if there was 5 players, the game wouldnt start

[near hare]

happens a couple of times a day to me.

[thick copper]

i dont understand why people hang around in empty servers, it just pulls in players wanting to play the game into dead lobbies

[humble portal]

tom henderson, who is freakishly accurate on BF news, stated they were about 15-20k peak across all platforms this was months ago, that's abysmal

[near hare]

im giving rough estimates. not exact numbers lol.

[arctic grove]

Somebody purposefully uploaded a video to YouTube to prove 2042 is dead by joining a portal game with 1 other person in it

[arctic grove]

“Freakishly accurate”

[hexed mango]

how else are servers going to become not dead.

[radiant prism]

Freakishly accurate...like when he claimed to have the reveal trailer for months?

[vale gale]

im not getting any progession on my kill in rush weekly mission

[hexed mango]

tom henderson is kinda like 🦧

[thick copper]

these are servers that stay dead for days on end though since its such a lower player base

[arctic grove]

I think 2042 has an official rush game mode are you on that?

[vale gale]

yes iam

[humble portal]

you can easily extrapolate that most players are on console, but on PC certainly more players on steam than origin, how big is the playerbase, why are people having trouble finding games?

[glad mist]

dead gaem l0l

[vale gale]

ive tried it on bf2042 rush as well doesnt work

[glad mist]

try rush on BF4

works like a charm

[fervent grotto]

For a game that’s not even a year old the game is petty dead

[humble portal]

why are people coping on here for this embarassment

[arctic grove]

2042 has a stat tracking problem I believe. It still tracks but won’t show it. Have you got more than 10 kills?

[hexed mango]

well there's also EA Desktop (which isn't the same as origin) and Epic Games (which had a sale, and free weekends, drawing in players)

[hexed mango]

its just the portal mode and i think its due to their updates ( see #direct-communication )

[fervent grotto]

Not like as in “battlefield 1942 dead” because that game is years old

[vale gale]

yeah multiple times

[arctic grove]

Just because nobody is going to take your B.S. argument doesn’t mean anyones coping either. Be grown

[humble portal]

what's my bs argument that 2042 is in a worst state than any bf before it? that's common sense

[vale gale]

ill try completing other missions see if it worls

[fiery shoal]

this is just outright wrong...

[humble portal]

oh god nyphon here the ultimate fanboi

[fiery shoal]

bf4 still wouldnt work by this time if it released when 2042 did...

[fiery shoal]

yea my 55 hours in 2042 and having it uninstalled for... 4 months really speaks to that...

[hexed mango]

idk, it seems that if you are here just to argue that 2042 is bad, you are the one coping. there is nothing stopping you from just walking away or going to #battlefield-legacy-titles to talk about other bf games you like

other people here, like myself, would rather enjoy actually talking about the game

[thick copper]

u still played 55 hours lol

[fiery shoal]

just because you say stupid shit thats easy to dispute doesnt mean i even like 2042...

[humble portal]

i am talking about the game shitting on it and i was hoping i'd have support it's embrassing

bf4 was at least fun in between crashes

[fiery shoal]

youre cool

"when the game functioned it was good" sounds like the hardest cope ive seen on here...

[glad mist]

bf4 doesn't even crash anymore

[fiery shoal]

not the topic...

[glad mist]

never has for years

[humble portal]

like what it's dwindling player count, it's bad maps? the core game is worse than any bf? You gonna say that feature wise BF4 was not more complete at launch, you are coping

[thick copper]

thats cos they stopped messing with the code

[arctic grove]

The nature of man to glorify the past

[fiery shoal]

2042 sucks, but it at least functioned... thats objectively a step up from bf4 launch... thats it

[glad mist]

it has barely ever crashed after the launch patches tho?

[arctic grove]

Netcode

[hexed mango]

plus, rather than flush out content first, the 2042 devs are more focused on bringing qol and improvements first before content, imo thats better priorities

[humble portal]

why should we be hopeful or make excuses for one of the worst modern shooter releases in modern history. I mean Vanguard is horrendous and still more fun

[thick copper]

u discovered the reason behindpatches yaaaaay

[glad mist]

why are you even argueing about launch states. BF4 did ten times better during the same time past launch than how 2042 does right now

[hexed mango]

so go play that and stop making a mess of this channel

[fiery shoal]

"2042 is in a worst state than any bf before it? that's common sense"

[glad mist]

and thats wrong how?

[hexed mango]

idk guys i just want to be able to talk about 2042 like normal people in here for once

[fiery shoal]

because bf4 was not functional for a vast majority of people for 6 months... this shouldnt have to be said...

[glad mist]

its arguably doing worse than BFV did

[hexed mango]

take your arguments to reddit or something

[thick copper]

2042 is what we get when a bunch of hipster neutrals make a war game

[glad mist]

ok and? Won't make 2042 a better game either

[arctic grove]

I’d argue dices response to the backlash created during V was worst. But maybe I’m wrong

[fiery shoal]

not the argument at all.. what is your logic/train of thought?

[thick copper]

ea and dice were playing the blame game with each other about why it sucked, and eventually why the game was no longer getting support

[glad mist]

This game's an absolute shitass Battlefield title.
Lacks fuckton of content, features almost no franchise specific key design, tries to so hard to be a "woke" hero shooter which it's sorta decent at but ultimately fails due to otherwise wacky game and map design

[humble portal]

BFV is only great in comparison to this shit show. The criticisms of BFV were also valid. Lack of content obviously number one, but also gameplay mechanics like attrition and fortifications were half baked or just not very impactful fun either. It DOES have the best shooting and movement in the series, have to give it that.

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/beuUo.gif

[arctic grove]

LGBT representation doesn’t make the game woke

[fiery shoal]

no one is saying 2042 isnt shit.. ive outright just said that a few minutes ago... that doesnt change that bf4 not working for 6 months is the worst state of the franchise...

[glad mist]

it's woke cause it tries to so hard to be inclusive its actually one of the main reason it isnt successful

[fiery shoal]

isnt there literally only a single tweet in regards to inclusion?

[glad mist]

lowest skill floor out of all battlefield titles except for maybe Battlefield Friends or whatever the cartoon shooter was, skill ceiling is barely above the skill floor

[uncut bay]

this game being woke is the least of its problems

[thick copper]

a person sexuality does not matter in a war game

its war only thing that matters is the PEWPEW

[uncut bay]

literally a singular offhand tweet is the closest they got to being "woke"

[arctic grove]

I mean could you clarify what you mean by lowest skill floor

[fiery shoal]

100%, but it also 100% doesnt alter the game in any meaningful way... its literally your own feelings that is affected if you let it...

[humble portal]

yeah, every single piece of media released going forward will have some type of heavy handed inclusivness in it, it's the world we live in. It's doesn't even scratch the surface of 2042's problems though

[glad mist]

have you seen how wacky vehicles and air stuff plays? xd

[fiery shoal]

people really try to tie in the most trivial problems with how 2042 is bad...

[glad mist]

or how there's no outstandingly OP equipment or gun

[hidden sand]

I mean, netcode was about the biggest issue with BF4. Outside of that, the gameplay was loved by most of the community which is what made the frustration so much worse.

Feature wise, BF4 was pretty complete at launch, what plagued it was bugs and netcode issues. It's not glorifying the past to acknowledge the game was still designed alright outside of that.

[fiery shoal]

"weapon balance is horrible because of a nin binary character".... wut

[arctic grove]

Good point

[humble portal]

yeah almost forgot how bad and WEIGHTLESS vehicles feel. Battlfeield was formally great at having arcade vehicles that "felt" realistic. Now it's a joke they are like killstreaks

[glad mist]

this game tries so hard to not offend the average joe or encourage them to get better at shooters its not even funny anymore

[fiery shoal]

"It's not glorifying the past to acknowledge the game was still designed alright outside of that."

except people arent doing this, they are outright ignoring a non functioning game because "lul 2042 bad"

[glad mist]

im surprised EA gave in and added voip and all chat along with the scoreboard

[arctic grove]

Vehicles are like kill streaks in 2042? Vehicles in battlefield feel like kill streaks period if you don’t know how to play them

Source; AH-64 main

[thick copper]

game gives all the snowflakes extra hp which is why its so hard to kill some people

[fiery shoal]

wut...

[arctic grove]

20 extra armor HP has nothing to do with that

[humble portal]

you drawing attention to it's buggy launch unintentionally(or intentionally?) masks 2042s fundamental game design problems that will probably never be fixed. The game was DOA

[glad mist]

everyone's a winner in 2042 which is cringy af xd

[hidden sand]

Vehicles feel the worst they've ever felt tbh, coming from BFV to this is mind boggling but ah well.

[thick copper]

they have no gravity

[glad mist]

locked turret rotation on tanks

[thick copper]

drives car goes over bump, YEETS TO SPACE

[glad mist]

also no vehicle unlocks

[fiery shoal]

game not working is worse than a game making stupid decisions... if you think otherwise go buy a car with that same mindset...

[glad mist]

drive and flight models feel like they come straight out of warzone

[arctic grove]

I haven’t touched planes in V yet but, tanks yes

And tanks simply are faster with turret rotation and movement. As modern MBTs will be over WW2 vehicles

Just my input

[thick copper]

they have like 2 or 3 unlocks behind levels

[humble portal]

you say you think the game sucks but then make backhanded comments defending it like this.

[glad mist]

[thick copper]

the mav and the trackcartank thing

[arctic grove]

But weighted vehicles and weapons is something that can be done in 2042 I think

[fiery shoal]

because i can not like a game but it can work? ... what is this logic?

[thick copper]

the vehicle have no weight to them which is why they float so easily

[placid echo]

You have to unlock the hovercraft, bolte, MAV, Wildcat and maybe one more.

[thick copper]

gmod has better physics

[glad mist]

even the transports in BF4 had more unlocks (although only camo unlocks) than anything on 2042 currently.

[arctic grove]

Like, make it so you can’t slide as far, or maybe jump as high when using an LMG/NTW or other heavy weapon of that sort

More mobility down to less in terms of weapons size and type

[hidden sand]

Are you saying the turret rotation and track speed are faster in 2042? Cause they absolutely are not lol

[glad mist]

not to mention the gun attachements

cant even compare BF4 and 2042 tbh

[placid echo]

Everyone only used the same set of 4 attachments in 4 sadly

[humble portal]

it's like i been saying (and i think they are releasing another battlefield clone this fall) they need to just drop the game, it is beyond repair

[uncut bay]

to be entirely honest BF4 was an outlier, it was the only battlefield game to have such a wide range of weapons and unlockables on release

[glad mist]

not really

[shell ermine]

BFV's specialization system for weapons is far better than the attachment spam in other games

[hidden sand]

Disagree, I see a wide range of attachments in BF4 every time I play, it's pretty much never the same 4

[glad mist]

you've had a couple reskin underbarrel attachements but scope variation and muzzle stuff is quite big

[hidden sand]

https://tenor.com/view/bateman-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-based-based-department-gif-20278087

[dapper berry]

disagree

[arctic grove]

Out of everything in 4 yes really, with like 700 hours in that game the meta was the stubby grip, heavy barrel, and any large range of sight dot sight lmao

[humble portal]

ironically the weapon balance was so samey and boring because it's impossible to balance like 100 guns and 250 attachements

[hidden sand]

Ah I forgot I don't have the ability to send images anymore rip

[thick copper]

paywalled

[glad mist]

The specialization system borked all weapon balance and got rid of teamplay altogether

[arctic grove]

If you were feeling very team oriented you’d also slap a target detector on

[thick copper]

what is borked is the melee

[glad mist]

the main reason BF3 and 4 were so successful with their wide variety of equipment and weapons is because some of them were locked to a specific class

which heavily encouraged teamplay too

[humble portal]

as an apache pilot how are you not up in arms what a downgrade 2042 has been. The apache was perfect in bf4 they should have copy pasted

[mighty holly]

Buffoon logic is what it is

[arctic grove]

Exactly. DICE needs to bring back all legacy features

[hidden sand]

Specializations are far better on vehicles than the attachment system. You could actually have multiple playstyles and succeed with them, unlike BF4 where it's just AP, HMG, and APS.

[glad mist]

meanwhile 2042: yeah do whatever you want this is just a discount CoD

[hidden sand]

Vehicles in BFV were done so well

[arctic grove]

at full price

[arctic grove]

I mean I definitely noticed they’re way slower. Or at least feel like it. I don’t recall having to point right at the ground to move forward in 4, but I haven’t played that game in a while

[glad mist]

luckily i learnt from F76 and just got a second hand key off a seller for like 10 bucks.
Anyone who still preorders or buys AAA games on launch has it coming for them tbh

[humble portal]

the apache weigh was amazing in bf4 it wasn't nimble like the little bird but fast and agile with momentum, suc ha skill ceiling on it

[glad mist]

Viper :P

[arctic grove]

I wanna go back to 4 some time to become AH-1Z Viper main

I always got my ass kicked piloting in that game

[hidden sand]

BF4 had the best heli physics imo, I'd say BF2 but BF4 mixed accessibility with challenge far better

[glad mist]

BF4 is still healthy and well, you can play it now and will find a game

[humble portal]

little bird is better than apache but if you have a great gunner with Tv missles apache was good

[arctic grove]

It’s been alive throughout 1, V and now 2042 so yeah no worries about that

[glad mist]

basically the same as BF3 tbh

[uncut bay]

i love how everyone forgets hardline was a thing when listing battlefield games

[ember nimbus]

Harder to find matches for some DLC game modes though

[glad mist]

yeah you need to look for those ;-;

[frank stratus]

Y'all take bf seriously? 💀

[humble portal]

lol hardline was at least fun at launch i couldn't even have fun in 2042 outside of rush in portal mode

the 128 player modes are just so bad to me

[glad mist]

Hardline was fun but not really a Battlefield imo

[hidden sand]

Thats how it was nearly two weeks after DLC releases too lol
The Premium model was such a bad one

[frank stratus]

Explain briefly

[arctic grove]

And some of those dlc game modes were cool, too

[glad mist]

the whole cops v gangsters thing doesn't fit into "Battlefield" tbh

[next onyx]

It didn't have the theme of battlefields but it pretty much functioned like one.

[ember nimbus]

Carrier assault matches were pretty easy to find

[next onyx]

It was a game not worried to take a piss at itself too.

[uncut bay]

i feel like battlefield's core has strong ties to military and war, hardline might've been a bf game but felt a lot like a spinoff

[glad mist]

^^

[arctic grove]

Carrier assault that’s what I was thinking of, I always wanted to play that but could never queue up into full servers

[humble portal]

the naval dlc for bf4 was amazing

[next onyx]

Hardline was a pretty good game.

[glad mist]

the campaign was more pog though

[shell ermine]

Compared to 2042 which is both not fun and not really a Battlefield

[ember nimbus]

Carrier assault is my favorite PvP game mode in any game I've ever played

[frank stratus]

How is 2042 not a bf game?? Tf

[arctic grove]

They only say that cause specialists lmao

[glad mist]

BF isn't a hero shooter franchise

[arctic grove]

It’s my favorite argument to pick apart. Or at least one of them

[hidden sand]

Hardline should have been advertised as its own thing, it wouldn't have caused the unrealistic expectations pre-existing fans had

[dapper berry]

source: trust him bro it's not

[ember nimbus]

The class system is different then what the community is used to

[humble portal]

also the vehicles blow besides the nightbird they control terribly

[frank stratus]

They are doing it from another take

[arctic grove]

Hardline > 2042 Tbh. Had some good dlc maps

[arctic grove]

Any change is bad, that’s how they think

[humble portal]

if you ever tried cod ground war with its vehicles that's how the yare to me

[uncut bay]

hardline was for sure more enjoyable than 2042 imo

[ember nimbus]

I'm not with them or against them; I enjoy 2042 and enjoy the unique gameplay elements the specialist system adds

[humble portal]

see i don't really mind the specialists, i think they are unbalanced but

[hidden sand]

Nah people just think the changes are bad. It's kind of silly to blanket opinions into simply being a hate of change.

[ember nimbus]

TL;DR I'm having fun, so nothing else matters to me

[arctic grove]

This is how 2042 feels like

[humble portal]

i don't think the specialists are why the game sucks

[next onyx]

I can't play hardline without dealing with people abusing snap aiming and those horrible deadzones.

[frank stratus]

Jesus christ y'all really pulled the plug from 2042

[hidden sand]

I feel your pain, except in BF4 lol
It's an awful experience on console, I wish they had put in those options just before support ended

[arctic grove]

It’s basically the class system but you play specific specialists with their own role oriented gadgets. That’s pretty much it

[mental cave]

hi

[next onyx]

At least I got my AKM gold lol.

[glad mist]

classes don't exist, you can use any weapon with any equipment

[arctic grove]

It’s still battlefield if you slap on the first masked skin every specialist gets and just ignore the specialist and play the role they fill.

Nothing out of the ordinary

[mental cave]

I've come here for my daily dose of bf2042 hate

[arctic grove]

Instead of locked weapons and equipment, differentiation comes from gadgets

But I expect gadgets and guns to become locked to certain classes sometime soon

[arctic grove]

Most people dont want to play a role. They just want to do their own thing.

Except you always played with a role in every battlefield?

[humble portal]

but many feel the homogenization of classes that has been creeping since bf4 is not a good thing, but i guess it's a modern shooter and you can't have old school classes anymore

[arctic grove]

It was forced because of classes

[humble portal]

in bf4 you could snipe with dmrs in every class

[arctic grove]

You can technically do that in 2042, play your own role, since you can use any gadget

[humble portal]

or play close quarters with pdws

[arctic grove]

People want to play a battlefield game. Not another cod game.

[hexed mango]

pdw was engineer only

[humble portal]

was it shotguns

[dapper berry]

carbines

[arctic grove]

Except it is a battlefield game, and what you just said technically exists in 2042 as far as freedom to do what you want

[humble portal]

right i don't think any class/specialist should be able to fit every role

[mental cave]

im assuming the goal of getting rid of weapon locked classes is to allow people to play with the guns they want while also being able to have a recon or support on their squad

[hidden sand]

That's not really a class system though, that's more of a hero based system. They're characters with unique gadgets.

Gadgets are free for all, along with weapons, which had killed most of the sacrifice in choosing a specific role.

In past games, if you wanted to be a medic, you could not fight tanks. If you wanted to take out tanks, you could not be a medic. Imo, this was balanced best in BFV.

This is no longer the case and you use loadouts now so all of that balancing is gone.

[humble portal]

actually specialists in apex are exteremely different and specialized and locked into a defined role unlike 2042

[mental cave]

especially when you squad up with random its not that great when your whole squad is medics or assaults

[arctic grove]

Ive seen too many recons with m5s

[arctic grove]

Or your whole squad is Angel

[mental cave]

that squad is throwing who tf uses angel lmao

[arctic grove]

ill play the sniper class using shotguns

[arctic grove]

Good point, like I said I think gadgets and maybe weapons might become locked at some point, we’re still waiting on dice to explain anything about the specialist rework core feedback (which has pretty much obviously been postponed to a later date)

[humble portal]

yeah, not sure i would say BFV had the best class balance sniper was super underpowered assault was overpowered but yeah i liked the split though

they gave assault dmrs for some reason

[dapper berry]

and it past games it wasn't uncommon not to have any medics available when everybody switched to engineer just to be able to kill tanks

[frank stratus]

Tbh I don't get it why people hate the game.
If you want good immersion play the game on max settings or lower brightness and disable HUD,
If you think it's dead then just play with bots...
and if you don't like the weapon classes deal with it it's all you got even with the specialists.

The people who made it went through alot of trouble in making it, atleast put some respect in their work smh.

[mental cave]

I think the people who call it dead want to play with real people not bots

[humble portal]

LOL too many games too little time to play a game just because i feel bad for the devs

[arctic grove]

In my opinion what hurts the game as far as immersion is two easy changes; quote screen (dice already confirmed this will change) and “clone wars” (just give us more milsim/masked operator skins)

[dapper berry]

there are valid reasons to hate the game, it's still unoptimized, some people feel robbed, others don't see a finished game, etc..

[glad mist]

BF4 had the best class balance lol

[hidden sand]

Recon was pretty good imo, but it should have been able to be more aggressive like BF1s.

BF1 did the best recon balance imo.

[next onyx]

Bf5 had pretty good balance over 4.

[arctic grove]

Bought an Alpha game at launch... I miss flying and climbing with the hovercrafts.

[frank stratus]

It's cause it was rushed it was supposed to come in 2022 but they pushed it back

[next onyx]

I loved support and bf4 support made me hate my life.

[arctic grove]

All I know about BF1 recon is, sweet spot mechanic

[glad mist]

wats wrong with BF4s support lol

[next onyx]

By the way. Assault wasn't even that overpowered.

[humble portal]

recon having dmrs and removing them from assault would fix it instantly, the dmrs were super op combined with self heals especially early on in the game's cycle

[next onyx]

Bf5 assault is.

[arctic grove]

I like tossing UCAVs at people on locker and killing like 5 people at once

[dapper berry]

there are always reasons for a botched product; at the end of the day people paid for a game they don't feel that they got

[next onyx]

Random bullet deviation and the shitty microburst meta of 4.

[glad mist]

a fellow airburst ucav enjoyer

for when lobbies get too sweaty and the brain too smooth

[arctic grove]

Unfortunately most servers would smite you for it

[humble portal]

bf4 infantry is just bad by modern standards it's why i can't play it anymore

[frank stratus]

They don't understand that not every game can be perfect at launch it needs some time to recover from critical damage

[next onyx]

Bf5 easy fg42, BAR and go aggro.

[glad mist]

they don't anymore, ucav is fair game now

[next onyx]

Bren when you want to melt people at a range when they can barely control their guns.

[glad mist]

its pretty good though, just has a higher skill floor and ceiling

[next onyx]

Out range assaults.

[arctic grove]

It’s definitely a dated feeling, part of the reason I like 2042 so much is it’s a modern setting with modern movement and mechanics

[dapper berry]

there's "not perfect", and then waaaaay below there's 2042's launch

[wide shore]

Slow fire BAR was my babe

[next onyx]

Fast bar here baby.

[frank stratus]

💀

[wide shore]

It reminded me of the BF1 Chauchat. Slow but deadly af

[mental cave]

bf4 sniping was so easy

[next onyx]

Exact same stats at the Thompson except in range and control.

[humble portal]

what about the stupid heavy machine guns where you had to be prone to ADS. BFV is a weird aborted baby of milsim features and arcade at times

[glad mist]

i pulled two 70-10 rounds today on BF4 just by using a SCARH and CZ75

[next onyx]

Beam people 30 to 40 metres away.

Mmgs were shit.

Lmgs were top.

[glad mist]

on Shanghai and Zavod

[wide shore]

Disagree. MG42 went brrrrrt

[humble portal]

bfv had a numbers of milsim style features that just completely fucked the game IMO

[next onyx]

Lmg mmg talk vividly reminds me of someone who called lmgs overpowered because they were better than mmgs LOL.

[dapper berry]

"completely fucked" ???

[glad mist]

the spotting

[wide shore]

Not everyone flipped on BFV after 2042 came out.

[glad mist]

i fucking hated BFVs visibility and spotting

[next onyx]

Yeah bf5 handled spotting better. Actual good audio so you didn't needed spotting.

[humble portal]

exaggeration, but attrition and fortifications were half baked and dum. Like how is it a good feature to have to circle back to your base for a refill in this type of game

[next onyx]

Attrition was dumb yes fortifications nah.

[humble portal]

i do fully agree with the no self heal in vehicles

[glad mist]

so many little bitches in bushes and piles of rubble camping

[next onyx]

Fortifications were amazing.

[arctic grove]

Refill was a cool and somewhat realistic mechanic but yeah don’t really care for it personally

[wide shore]

Fortifications were cool. Wish they kept it

[fervent grotto]

Yea I liked em a lot

[next onyx]

Scavenging was alright but health attrition sucked.

[wide shore]

I also wish they kept squad call-ins

[mental cave]

fortifications was a trend in COD for a bit too wasnt it

[glad mist]

I'd dig something like BF3 and 4 with light to moderate base building like in Squad

[vale pier]

Fortification would add cover to the maps. don't want that, do we

[next onyx]

Nah ne.

[humble portal]

right like why can't you regain health automatically after like a minute or whatever

instead you go on a featch quest for a med pouch sigh

[mental cave]

I thought it was in one of the ww games they made

[next onyx]

They've changed it that health regen comes back quickly. Albeit limited.

[frank stratus]

Tbh it's your fault for pre ordering it cause what happened is that I wouldn't buy any bf game cause I have EA PLAY so that means I can play it more efficiently so what happen is that I played smart I didn't double pay the game cuz If I did it I would have not liked it... and I knew it would go under everyone due to the beta so I took the chance to not buy it.

Moral of the story: never pre order things before you get the reviews

[arctic grove]

Yeah same, I honestly figured 2042 would have expanded upon Vs mechanics, animations, gunplay and movement. But hopefully some of those things can come back in the future

[next onyx]

Oh I know what you're on about.

[wide shore]

There was building in COD WWII’s War mode. That’s it.

[next onyx]

You could fortify in zombies.

Ohhh thats right.

[mental cave]

ah

[wide shore]

But you needed it to progress the level, it wasn’t to add cover.

[humble portal]

the fort system was ok i guess too slow though, like 6 seconds of sandbag stacking like i gotta keep moving

[mental cave]

I played the beta

[next onyx]

Yeah they changed the build times.

Nvm the fact I main support so everything is built instantly.

[mental cave]

thats all I remember from it never bought the cod lol

[wide shore]

After patch building was perfect

Support tossed one sandbag down and the whole wall was done

[dapper berry]

i don't hate the game, it's just a game after all, i was saying that people who hate it have valid reasons to do so

[next onyx]

Play bf5 for the first time in ages, Hits a casual hundy bomb with the fg42.

[wide shore]

I wonder if I’d still be good going back

[next onyx]

Despite its issues, its a fun game and it works really well.

[wide shore]

It took me a long time to adjust to 2042

[next onyx]

You'll probably over compensate with your aim.

[dapper berry]

2042 inputs are something else

[wide shore]

It’s okay, I’m used to overcompensating

[humble portal]

damn a hundy? i def got 70 before hundy is absurd

[placid echo]

Doesn't help I took your tags a few times, Way

[humble portal]

breakthrough?

[mental cave]

I just kind of want more stuff to do in 2042, not really any incentive to progress. Kind of just waiting for the battle pass

[wide shore]

I only ever dropped a hundy bomb in BF3 with 1200% tickets.

[humble portal]

it's insane haha

hacks, or walls pick one

[wide shore]

I’ve been close, 80’s and 90’s in BF1. But never got a hundo

Highest in 2042 is like 68, I think

[next onyx]

Conquest hundy bomb.

[humble portal]

i only have like a 1.7 kdr so yeah not as good as way im sure

[next onyx]

Breakthrough bit less common.

Uhhh...

[wide shore]

Very few are

[next onyx]

I might have a 6kd...

As an aggro support that flies planes.

[wide shore]

I have a 2.7 in BFV

[humble portal]

yeah i don't understand what's crazy is my mediocre kdr puts me in like the top 15% of players ther is a metric fuckton of baddies

[next onyx]

Though the more important stats in conjunction with KD is the KPM and SPM stats.

I worked hard for that 2 KPM.

[wide shore]

Got a 1.03KPM in BFV

With a 464 SPM

[humble portal]

i also fuck my kd by trying every weapon in the damn game

i was using those god awful commando carbine last time i was playing haha

they actually can be alright...i guess

[wide shore]

I always swapped weapons around in BFV

Near the end I started using faction specific weaponry

[humble portal]

it's not really beneficial to do that pick the meta and abuse the fuck

[wide shore]

I barely touched the Type 2a

I don’t even know if I have 100 kills with it

[humble portal]

it's a bit harder to find the meta in battlefield games but you can with a little research

[low timber]

Sym.gg helps quite a bit

[dapper berry]

where's the fun in only using the best weaponry

[wide shore]

Give me a Grease Gun every single day over the type 2A

[dapper berry]

based

[humble portal]

people like to win and that's how you win

[wide shore]

You know what guns I used the hell out of after the pacific? Type 11 & Type 97. Those guns were so damn good and so damn underrated.

[next onyx]

I main the fg42 because I enjoyed it not because it was the best gun.

[dapper berry]

that doesn't answer my question tho

[next onyx]

Yuck type 97. That's an abomination for support.

Genuinely awful gun.

[low timber]

Shame we never got the lad lmg

[wide shore]

Slap the scope on, and you can just beam people with it. And the reload sound is awesome.

[next onyx]

There's the part where you enjoy a gun because of its history and another part cause it's meta.

Im on the first part cause the fg42 is my favourite childhood gun.

Lad would have been cool but probably weak.

But hey, funni 9mm MG.

[humble portal]

what's the best gun in each class

[mental cave]

you had a favorite childhood gun, you from texas?

[wide shore]

Can you tell what class I liked playing as?

[next onyx]

Stg 1-5 for assault, zk 383, m198a2, grease gun, type 2 and suomi for medic, all lmgs except the type 97 on support and recon I don't know...

[placid echo]

Recon

[mental cave]

recon

[next onyx]

Nahh im aussie. I played return to castle wolfenstein and used the fg42 there.

The impression was so great when I was 5 i instantly fell in love with the gun.

DOM DOM DOM.

[mental cave]

I've never been into guns like that

[dapper berry]

oh nice a medic like me

[mental cave]

I own them but I could care less about that stuff

[next onyx]

I think I've got 50 mil points for support.

My touchpad is about to die.

[wide shore]

As a red blooded American. I love guns. But I don’t have any real ones.

[humble portal]

recon gotta be kar98 right

[next onyx]

Yeah nah ne I'm not into guns too but recently I've been learning them.

[low timber]

You made it sound like you played with your touchpad

[next onyx]

No. The zh is the best recon weapon lol.

Dude I lost my charger I hate it.

Reeeee.

[wide shore]

Gah the fucking ZH man

[next onyx]

The krag is the best long range sniper.

[wide shore]

Still haunts my dreams to this day

[next onyx]

G95 is the best mid.

Lee is the best aggro ish.

[low timber]

I liked the last bolt, the one with scope and irons

[wide shore]

Best sniper is M3 Infared

[next onyx]

Trench carbine on full auto is good.

Ghetto submachine gun.

[wide shore]

You could spam the M3 Infared like it was going out of style and never lose your mark.

My first game ever using it I dropped like 50 kills on Al Marj of all maps

[next onyx]

Jeez.

[wide shore]

I am a trash sniper. But that gun ruled

[next onyx]

Devastation and Rotterdam best maps.

Its a semi not a sniper for recon.

[wide shore]

I can agree with that

[next onyx]

Just an m1a1 with no box maf and a suppressor.

And it's pretty good.

[wide shore]

I love Devastation

[next onyx]

Hit regular big games on it.

Just generally a good map.

[wide shore]

Same

And it looks cool af too so that helps

[dapper berry]

here i am just wishing they'd add 2142 weaponry in 2042

[next onyx]

Rotterdam from the bf5 beta. :)

Good memories. :)

[wide shore]

Devastation looks so cool when the air raid event is going on

[next onyx]

Ye.

Flares are bright.

Kay we go sleepy.

[mental cave]

Rotterdam made me rage

bf5 in general made me rage

[wide shore]

Rotterdam was to me, just a slightly downgraded Amiens.

But it’s hard to beat Amiens. That map is nearly perfect.

[mental cave]

people always hiding in random ass piles of rocks

[low timber]

Amiens? Was that the small city map with the train track going in the middle?

[wide shore]

Yes

[low timber]

Wasn’t a fan

[iron blade]

Bf1 had a nice range of maps at launch, each had different varieties

Aaaand lemme change my pfp since im here, dont ban me pls

[frank stratus]

[iron blade]

Thats better

Anyways, bf1 maps are really underrated, didnt really like some of the flat ones like sinai and glacia tho

[wide shore]

BF1 had some of the best CQC maps ever. Amiens, Fort De Vaux, Achi Baba, Argonne omfg

[iron blade]

Amiens was the perfect meatgrinder map, u still had stalemates of locker, but there was enough routes on the map to bypass the action and do flanks

[iron blade]

Yessir! Wish we had good variety like that in 2042

Hopefully future maps will be good, that exposure map seems interesting

[wide shore]

How could I forget Verdun Heights and Passchendaele

[iron blade]

Passhendaele is the shit

A chefs kiss of a map

Makes me want bf1 in portal

[wide shore]

There’s a reason BF1 is my favorite game and it starts at the maps

[iron blade]

Same with mine, nearly perfect in every aspect

Only gripe is vehicle balance, but all in all, bf1 is solid

[wide shore]

BF1 set the Precedent of what good DLC is. Remember when each DLC was supposed to get 4 maps and they just said fuck it and released 6 for TSNP and ITNOTT

[iron blade]

Yes, makes me miss DLC, then 15 dollars got u the shit ton of content, now it gives u an epic skin, gun skin, and some other useless shit

Dont get me wrong free content is nice

But the fact that past dlc and some skin bundle are the same price is wack

[velvet sand]

Post-launch support has less to do with business model and more to do with planning. Going back to Premium/DLC wouldn't make new content come out faster, or the game better.

[iron blade]

True

Hopefully the new cosmetics will be somewhat cool, i dont want no BFV dragon spirit shit dice

[wide shore]

I don’t like paid dlc because it segments the playerbase. And after a while map packs die. I loved that BF1 had mixed servers. But I want all maps for everyone.

I had no problem buying premium. (Well I did for BF4) but I’d much rather free maps and guns

[iron blade]

But when a game is as good as bf1, dice can take my money and more for some kickass dlc

[wide shore]

Of course

[iron blade]

Shame apocalypse wasnt as expansive as the past dlc, wouldve been cool to get a new faction like the Canadians on passchendale, since they were the army that fought there

God, even though i like bfv, i would take more bf1 content over it anyday of the week

I wanted to see stuff like Serbia, Belgium, Bulgaria, Japan, Canada, and the African campaigns

And portugal

[arctic grove]

I like bf5 more than bf1 tbh

[wide shore]

I like BFV gunplay better than bf1. But BF1 is better in every single other way to me.

[iron blade]

Bfv gunplay and movement are better than 1 imo

[arctic grove]

I liked bfv gunplay more than bf1 cuz the bullet deviation in bf1 is annoying

[iron blade]

Its pretty easy to bypass tho, just gonna use the guns properly to counter it

[arctic grove]

I just like the 2nd world war era more than the 1st world war.

wake island was fun

so was arras france

[iron blade]

Wouldve been fun to see wake island in bf1

[fiery shoal]

just gotta mute chat for an hour for the crazies to leave

[iron blade]

Although fighting didnt occur there, wouldve been cool to see it added in a japanese expansion

[arctic grove]

that actually sounds interesting maybe it would be cool

[iron blade]

Yeah bf1s wacky arsenal wouldve made for a particularly interesting take on it

[arctic grove]

What's your favorite bf1 weapon? mine is the Hellriegel

[iron blade]

Probably the smg08 for assualt (ik im weird), federov for medic, m1917 for support, and m1903 for scout

My fav sidearm is the peacekeeper

[arctic grove]

cool

[wide shore]

WWI as a setting is so unbelievably rad. From its weird experimental guns, to its wacky use of borderline medieval weapons. To the lackluster shitty vehicle designs. It’s just so cool. The mud and barbed wire, the smoke, fire & gas. It’s just so sick.

[iron blade]

Yeah, makes for a much more unique setting than ww2 or modern imo

[wide shore]

BF1 is everything I expect a war game to feel like.

[iron blade]

Wish we will get a Vietnam bf game sooner than later

[arctic grove]

wish the original battlefield games had 128 player lobbies

[wide shore]

It’s whole aura is dead, decay, suffering and pain. The world is like hell. It’s terrifying and scary. But that’s what makes it beautiful. It’s like a macabre story you can’t help but listen to.

[iron blade]

Idk bf1 just has a nice charm to it compared to other entries in the franchise, aint no other game like it. Wish 2042 took advantage of its brutal lore and made a bf1 type atmosphere

[arctic grove]

The soundtrack fits well too, it gives that heroic/intense like vibe

[iron blade]

Yeah, like listen to the bf1 Zeebrugge song and tell me it doesnt sound badass

[slate snow]

Is this game good yet

[arctic grove]

I liked listening to blitz metal frenzy gives a intense like vibe

[iron blade]

Kindaaa, wait until season 1

[slate snow]

Old model 10 was the best

[arctic grove]

2042 I think is still bad

[uncut girder]

Refund

[wide shore]

Assault: MP18 Trench
Medic: General Liu or Selbstlader 1916
Support: Chauchat BB
Recon: Gewehr 98 Sniper

[slate snow]

What a surprise

[slate snow]

I would but too late

[uncut girder]

I want a refund but ea wants to keep the MONEEEYYYYY

[slate snow]

My fault for buying it though

[iron blade]

Welcome to the club

Listen to the apocalypse spawn menu theme 2 I think it is

Very eerie

[arctic grove]

yeah

[wide shore]

2042 is pretty good. I don’t like it nearly as much as BF1 or BFV. But I do like it more than BF4. (Which isn’t hard to do for me)

[slate snow]

Bf1 had a good ass soundtrack bro

This menu theme was 🔥🔥🔥

[arctic grove]

battlefield V had a good one too

[wide shore]

BF1 just had a good ass

[hexed mango]

ayo

[slate snow]

https://youtu.be/wqT88wCmtlE

[arctic grove]

pride & honour was really good

[wide shore]

[iron blade]

Bf4 is the most overrated installment, most generic game ive ever played

[arctic grove]

siege of shanghai was good map

[slate snow]

It is overrated but in my opinion it’s definitely the best

[wide shore]

BF4 is the only time I bought premium and thought “fuck, what a waste”

All of the DLC offering in that game was shite. They even managed to make Gulf of Oman bad. HOW?

[iron blade]

I wonder if in the next ww2 bf game they will actually serve the conflict justice

[arctic grove]

I wonder if the next ww2 will not be politically correct bs

[wide shore]

Unfortunately I think a new WW2 BF game is a long ways away

[slate snow]

We do not need another ww1 or ww2 battlefield plz 🙏

[wide shore]

We need a Black Ops 1 style Cold War BF game.

[slate snow]

That would be good

[wide shore]

We need fools flying stealth bombers, and Huey’s and shit

[iron blade]

Cold War gone hot pls, warsaw vs nato

[hexed mango]

we need a Chinese Civil war bf game :)

[slate snow]

They ruined the movement

[iron blade]

That would actually be pretty good

[slate snow]

Too codlike just go back to the GOAT Bfv movement

[arctic grove]

That would be cool, especially since I'm chinese

[iron blade]

Or korean war

[hexed mango]

include both halves, and the Sino-Japanese war

[slate snow]

Or just modern day something plz

[hexed mango]

Russo-Ukraine bf game coming right up

Tehran Revolution, Afghanistan campaign, ...

[wide shore]

I want creepy mid 20th century Russian facilities in the middle of winter with MP5’s and AK47’s. Weird outdated boxy tech, all with the stench of cigarettes and cheap whisky.

[hexed mango]

technically, an event has to be more than a decade old to be considered historical, so i guess tehran would be the only viable one out of those

[mossy badge]

🙏

indian style namaste

[wide shore]

[mossy badge]

what will be the teams in cold war battlefield ?

🤔

[hexed mango]

well since the RU and US never actually fought, it would probably be individual events within the war

[wide shore]

Well, if it’s like BO1 it would have Vietnam stuff too.

[mossy badge]

they need to add korean war

china , korea , usa , ru

south korea

[wide shore]

Sadly I don’t think DICE is gonna have china as a faction anytime soon

[mossy badge]

north korea

[mossy badge]

how i can forget

[hexed mango]

like for example, korean war, vietnam war, Dekemvriana, Baltics, Iran crisis, Greek Civil war

there's a lot to choose from that i wont mention cause its too much

you could do a Berlin Blockade style thing but idk how that would work fps-wise

[fiery shoal]

war never changes

[mossy badge]

yeah exactly what i was thinking echology

[hexed mango]

... war... war never changes

[fiery shoal]

honestly though, do you guys really care about the setting you are in while playing a "competitive" fps game?

[mossy badge]

my kd change

[hexed mango]

Bay of Pigs invasion / Cuban Missile Crisis

[wide shore]

Yes. Very much so

[hexed mango]

i mean im hardly competitive, i just play to play cause its fun

[mossy badge]

black ops 1 whole campaign

[wide shore]

BF1 being WWI was one of the biggest reasons I love BF1

[fiery shoal]

interesting

[hexed mango]

i like the fact that there are stories behind 2042's stuff, i just wish we got to see / play it more

[mossy badge]

i hope next one will have story mode

[hexed mango]

and i like the look of some maps, which is a reason i actually enjoy breakaway, yeah its mainly white, but it has a neat environment, ice, containers sprawled about, oil rigs, and i enjoy it

[fiery shoal]

i only care about winning a match, ive never cared about graphics or setting as long as its not bad

[hexed mango]

what i kinda hope they do with this game is make a coop mode for challenges where you play as a no-pat following a story-line
so like the weekly/monthly mission could be you going in and having to do something in relation to a storyline they build, and you could do it with friends (hence coop, not just singleplayer)

rather than them making an entire campaign, this would be shorter individual story missions

[wide shore]

Maybe it’s because I’m a big immersion guy, when it comes to games. But I want to feel like I’m a part of a huge battle. Like what I’m doing matters. I can play a game where stuff like that isn’t evident. I play 2042 almost every day. But when the source material is engrossing, and I feel like I’m part of that? It adds a whole extra layer to me.

[mossy badge]

thats a really cool idea

co-op campaign is better

[hearty flame]

i dont see them doing a coop thing after how they dropped and abandoned it in V

[mossy badge]

splitscreens

[wide shore]

It’s like I said earlier about BF1. The gas, the fire, the trenches, the mud, the rickety old weapons, the vehicles and their gross Diesel engines, the scorched earth battlefields, the screaming. It all adds to the experience.

[fiery shoal]

i really only care for immersion in specific games, but anything that is even remotely competitive that overtakes anything else for me, performing

[wide shore]

I’m selfish, I want it all.

[mossy badge]

yeah gas grenade killed me but i like inhaling it

[echo yew]

Modern and near future is the best setting no i wont elaborate

[hexed mango]

well no, the same way they are doing coop aow

[arctic grove]

No need to elaborate

[echo yew]

though Cold War would be okay i guess

[wide shore]

I want to feel like batman I’m part of a vicious struggle.

[hexed mango]

batman 2022 = sundance

[arctic grove]

Cold War or anything of that sort
Meh

[wide shore]

Cold War or anything of that sort
Hell fucking yes pls dice

[arctic grove]

I think it could work actually. Maps where the Cold War went hot in Europe, Korea, South America, etc etc

[hexed mango]

Africa, Middle East

[wide shore]

It would be the perfect setting for fans who want an older style setting, and fans who want a modern setting. It’s literally right in the middle.

[hexed mango]

Turkmenistan moment

[mossy badge]

you wont like a 2142 part ii

[arctic grove]

Just place it near the 70s or 80s so we can get the early design A10, AH64, M1 abrams, things like that

[wide shore]

I never played the first one. So idk. But I’m willing to try it

I hear Titan mode was a once in a lifetime experience.

[hexed mango]

did you know that bf2042 as a hex color looks like this?

well now you know

[wide shore]

New HUD color?!?!? Poggers

[mossy badge]

i never played it , but i want its next part

[wide shore]

I just want DICE to add the AN94 to AOW

Do it you cowards you won’t please

[terse valve]

I've got a dumb question to ask y'all. Why would I want to use the SOFLAM over the FIM-33 AA Missile?

[fervent mantle]

i have a valid question to ask yall. what is the chances to have the vehicle occupants...whether in squad or not, be able to voice chat within vehicle?

[arctic grove]

Some AA and AT guns around the maps would be good to

[fervent mantle]

stationary tows!

[arctic grove]

Yeah some watch towers too something

[iron blade]

Mark Felton Gaming

[fiery shoal]

Nyphon

[whole plume]

Ya mama

[silk surge]

Armor literally prevents you from being one shot by snipers in hardcore btw

Fucking ridiculous.

[gray comet]

Is hardcore still a laughably high damage multiplier, or is it actually good now?

[silk surge]

Multipliers are pretty good now, but holy shit is it buggy.

[whole plume]

Hardcore should be a laughably high damage multiplayer

Hardcore is literally based off being one shot that's what makes it hard core

[gray comet]

Not a 3x multiplier like last time.

[fiery shoal]

hardcore is for people who cant aim

[uncut bay]

and for guns that were nerfed so badly they're almost useless in core

[plucky pebble]

Lmao

[hard plume]

Are the vehicles still made a of paper?

[velvet sand]

Welp, over a month since the last feedback loop closed and still no word on the next. The pace of everything with this game feels glacial.

Well, glacial would be accurate historically, in modern times they move pretty quick so I should find a better point of comparison. Molasses in the middle of winter?

[silk surge]

I wouldn't know, I only play hardcore tdm

[hard plume]

Booooorrrrriiiiinnnngggggg

[arctic grove]

[noble gale]

Hey is 2042 worth getting yet? I haven't heard anything good at the beginning

[silk surge]

Sure it is.

If you want to scratch that Battlefield itch, I suggest sticking to PORTAL though.

[noble gale]

Portal?

That's the game mode with basically all the games in it ya?

[silk surge]

Yeah.

Sometimes there are amazing gamemodes like Flashback Conquest.

[noble gale]

How does it work can you pick like conquest?

[silk surge]

There are featured gamemodes that changes each week. This week it's Hardcore TDM, Hardcore Rush, and Vehicle TDM.

And during fridays, they release a gamemode called "Friday Night Battlefield" that lasts for 24 hours. Those are always the most fun.

[arctic grove]

[silk surge]

But in short, yeah. If you find the game on sale, it's definitely worth it.

[noble gale]

Oh I got you... Damn so only good to get on sale thanks for the info man huge help

[silk surge]

All good mate 🙂 But yeah, there's not enough content to justify buying it for full price.

And rumor has it that it will soon go on gamepass anyways.

[noble gale]

Really now? I'll definitely wait then

[ruby saffron]

Yeah it’s going on gamepass ultimate soon

Def worth a shot then.

[silk surge]

I pre-ordered Ultimate Edition, and I almost have 600 hours logged. But that's mostly because I play anything with Battlefield name on it.

[ruby saffron]

I like the changed color tone, game looks a lot darker now?

[noble gale]

Shame though I've had a modern day battlefield itch and don't wanna go back to 4 from playing to to much lol

[ruby saffron]

2042 is a lot better now

[silk surge]

Looks normal to me.

[ruby saffron]

Personally I enjoy the mp but I find myself playing custom portal games with the ai a lot

Something about 64 players just scratches the itch for me

[silk surge]

There are some good custom portal games, I think there's a website that compiles them all.

You can make a lot of AI-related co-op modes if you don't mind the progression lock.

[ruby saffron]

They gotta add breakthrough to portal creator tho

[copper fulcrum]

1942 Breakthrough would be nice

[silk surge]

I remember seeing a Jackfrags video of someone who created a Battle Royale using PORTAL.

[ruby saffron]

Portal is super robust and I think it’s the future of the franchise

Gotta add more maps though, I’m talking add the entire damn games

Immortalize all battlefield into one complies customizable mode

[silk surge]

It's 100% the future of the franchise. The potential is immeasurable, I just hope DICE and Ripple realizes that.

Instead of releasing a BF4/3 or whatever remake, they could just work on adding the full games into PORTAL.

[ruby saffron]

I love how portal is local hosted too. Means it’s cheaper for EA to operate

[silk surge]

I really wish people used the server browser though. I don't think people even realize that regular gamemodes doesn't have progression lock.

[ruby saffron]

Even with the ai lol

You get full progression right now when it’s a regular mode with stock rules

[willow sky]

theres map cycling in portal right?

[slate mist]

bro how do you get to the s-levels

ive literally been level 95 for what seems like forever

[fiery shoal]

skill issue

[gleaming granite]

guys when will be 2042 added to game pass ? I am so tried to wait for players to join a game :/ I want to much more players !

[clever adder]

Any chance bf2042 gonna have the weight system like ww3?

It looks kinda cool since it makes your choice a lot more thoughtful

[ruby saffron]

No

[clever adder]

The body armor customisation is awesome as well

Feel like bf can learn a thing or two from that

[fiery shoal]

not really something BF fans will want

[wanton magnet]

Once you get to 100. The climb from 86-100 is ridiculously long.

[slate mist]

yeah ive been in the 90's for at least 2 months

granted i dont grind for hours, but i play a good amount

[copper fulcrum]

BF fans really just want a casual game

They want a game with teamwork but only the real hardcore players actually use the fucking tools to produce it

[clever adder]

Yep i played the game last night, no body on comms

[copper fulcrum]

Nobody really uses Squad VOIP unless it's something like Squad or Hell Let Loose... or Overwatch/CS:GO

Any other time people use VOIP in something like CoD or Battlefield is just to talk nonsense/etc.

[ruby saffron]

Bf fans really just want a game that works

[mighty holly]

What BF fans really want is more operators with cringe ass lines and let’s throw in some emotes

[velvet sand]

If my specialist can't do the floss, are they really a "specialist"?

[wise zodiac]

No, but if they can wear a dope ass beanie they sure are.

[velvet sand]

Beanies are for normies, not specialists. Now give me a cowboy Woody skin for future warfare and we're talkin!

[wise zodiac]

I mean, cowboy hats are based.

[velvet sand]

Based and bluepilled?

[wise zodiac]

I mean, I've got my cowboy hat somewhere, soooo

[hidden sand]

Haha yeah no. They'll look at the drop in players after they took away progression and think it was a waste. DICE has proven time and time again this is how they operate. They value numerical data far more than anything else. Learning from their mistakes isn't on the table.

Portal is 100% the future of the franchise, but it is way more likely that they think otherwise.

Portal essentially allows everyone to have their way if they have the desire to create it. Modibility is such a useful and amazing thing for games, and it pains me that it has taken them over 12 years to bring it back, even if not by much.

You could add your own weapons, vehicles, levels, etc during the refractor era of BF games. They gave you the tools to do so, and supported it.

If we could get back to that BF would peak.

[thick copper]

portal is like they gave us the demos of all their previous games

[slow mortar]

Dogpilled

[olive lake]

Wait what?

Has something changed or did I misread?

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[lime crystal]

Dude, i played for a month when the game launched and i'm level s008, haven't touched the game since tho

[olive lake]

Okay you know things are bad when the server browser has literally only one server and nothing else.

[analog stirrup]

yes, it's bad

[olive lake]

Seriously if they uncapped the AI to at least give ribbons and weeklies while keeping the XP cap it'd be playable

The fact its taking this long to give options to those who prefer PvE without exploits is pretty bad

[ruby saffron]

These advanced portal bots on rush are fucking monsters

[ruby saffron]

Advanced ai rush is almost impossible on discarded no cap

Last point A always has like 50 of the bots behind cover and the other 14 on the roof shooting down, it’s nuts

[tepid agate]

Thursday has arrived. Time to log on tonight and see what the weekly mission is 😏

[arctic grove]

[elder patrol]

Any news on season 1

[edgy oriole]

[tepid agate]

Data mine leaks about maps but that's about it

[arctic grove]

[elder patrol]

Ngl I do be hungy

[tepid agate]

Apparently they may have blizzards on them

[elder patrol]

Meh. As long as I get new content like guns maps and vehicles I'll be good

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/jody-high-roller-braces-silver-sharp-shark-teeth-gif-5409083

[strange pivot]

What if bf portal re used the old sound for bc2 or bf3?

[arctic grove]

[tepid agate]

Sound?

[elder patrol]

Yeah like the old sound effects lol

[tepid agate]

I'm waiting on specialist feedback loop 💀

[tepid agate]

Oh that was before I started playing but I saw some reviews before saying they were some of the best sounds battlefield ever had

[ruby saffron]

Nice leaked season one specialist

[edgy oriole]

[elder patrol]

Bc2 with the shotguns were nutty

[olive lake]

Wait so explain. No cap as in uncapped progression or am I just going insane?

I did try setting up a game but no luck

[ruby saffron]

The progression seems full when it’s on standard settings

[olive lake]

And this...Is with AI?

[ruby saffron]

Im getting full xp at the moment yea

[olive lake]

Okay how in the fuck

Y'know what, it doesn't matter. Share me the experience code please.

[tepid agate]

Are more ai filling your servers 👀

[ruby saffron]

Just 64

[olive lake]

Wait, you mean solo/co-op is uncapped? I am so confused.

[ruby saffron]

Portal with the pvp ai on

[olive lake]

Strange...I did just that and it didn't work

[ruby saffron]

Pve ai seems to only grant 60 a kill

Perhaps I have broken through the matrix and I’ll incur dice’s wrath to dare get full xp a kill

[tepid agate]

Can advanced ai have the lock on rocket launchers?

[olive lake]

But yeah if you have the experience code, could you share it?

[ruby saffron]

Yes. They don’t need em though since they are giga gods with the recoiless

[olive lake]

I have no clue how it doesn't work for me.

[ruby saffron]

Sure when I get the chance

[tepid agate]

Ah okay. Usually when I play a game all the ai bots just have normal launchers. Just fire them into the air at helicopters missing almost everytime

[ruby saffron]

Not much brings terror to my heart but being in a helicopter and seeing a bot pull out the recoilless terrifies me

I’ve noticed the co-op solo ai is a lot worse than the portal ai, not sure why

The portal ai are fucking beasts

[olive lake]

And the portal AI were set to advanced right?

[ruby saffron]

Yes

[olive lake]

I wonder if that's why its counting....?

[tepid agate]

Thing I don't like about ai is you can't stealth past them. No way you can just crawl through a field to get by they just always know where you are

[ruby saffron]

I suspect my game was bugged as I relaunched the server and it’s only giving me 60xp a kill

Epic fail

[olive lake]

XP is the least of my concerns. If ribbons and weeklies are counting that's honestly all I care about

[ruby saffron]

They never popped for me only xp and unlocks

[mighty holly]

That’s what I’m saying

[olive lake]

Not even weeklies? Damn and here I was getting my hopes up

[ruby saffron]

Oh my god I just got sniped by a tank bot through a 2 inch gap

[tepid agate]

Weekly mission is pretty easy to get I think though

[ruby saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/duel-star-wars-flame-fire-darth-vader-gif-7971806

[olive lake]

That's not necessarily the point though. Its just the fact its the game has gone back on a promise to progress everywhere you are and has basically given the middle finger if you prefer playing against AI

[ruby saffron]

Me after the bots found my hiding spot

[olive lake]

If they hadn't promised that before launch I probably never would've bought the game

[tepid agate]

Yeah because of all the bot farming. People exploiting it to get things to mastery faster

[ruby saffron]

The farmers ruined it all

[olive lake]

Yeah and while I agree that's justified, they've handled it so fucking atrociously

[ruby saffron]

Dice enabled full progression first few days, then said fuck the farmers no ai fun for anyone

[tepid agate]

Just let them get it to mastery who cares it's just a black and red colour on your vehicle or gun

[ruby saffron]

Even tried to drop the ai count to 16v16 for a while

[olive lake]

And from there on its been radio silence, occasional accidental uncaps and then more radio silence.

[olive lake]

Good luck telling that to the PvP gatekeeping elitists

[ruby saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/general-grievous-abandon-ship-funny-abort-evacuate-gif-10721574

[tepid agate]

I am there to play battlefield not aw in amazement at a colour you have 😄 dice just let people play the game they want

[olive lake]

Glad we're on mutual agreement

Let people play what they paid for.

[ruby saffron]

Hey at least I’m a top 1% bf2042 player since only 1% of its player base still plays

[velvet sand]

So did 4.0 like, eliminate the cooldown on flares?

[tepid agate]

So they butchered HZ from the start because it's just so bad. Then butchered portal because people trying to unlock colours for their guns.... So now just warfare

[olive lake]

And you definitely have way more respect than most.

[ruby saffron]

I play battlefield to blow stuff up and shoot guns, I could care less how anyone else plays, it’s a game just have fun

It ain’t a job peeps acting so serious all the damn time

[olive lake]

Welcome to the current generation of gaming. Don't like competitive? Don't like fighting players? Well fuck off then

(and boy do I hate it)

[tepid agate]

Exactly. Dice change the experience for everyone else just because some are getting colours for their guns faster

[ruby saffron]

If you want real hardcore competitive combat fun join the goddamn marines then

Stop acting like bf is a hardcore milsim

[olive lake]

Its why I'm excited for OW2 because I always loved its universe and subtle story telling and the fact its being delivered via a proper campaign and replayable PvE content.

This might be a chance for games to do the same.

Especially if OW2's rumored battle pass is true. Which if that's the case, totally fine if PvE counts too

[tepid agate]

I thought 2042 would be kick ass because they said they were scrapping campaign to focus on multiplayer.... Nope

Only time I used to go into portal was to experience those older maps

Which are very nice I must say. I prefer to play flashback conquest when that's free

[ruby saffron]

Unfortunately it seems ow2 might suffer the same fate as 2042 https://twitter.com/forbes/status/1521569300636708864?s=21&t=I9tnPrwUKojSnOIjUkaYdw

Forbes (@Forbes)

‘Overwatch 2’ Has Lost 99% Of Its Twitch Audience In A Week https://t.co/qwRWq4DDMt

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[velvet sand]

Twitch metrics are kinda useless in isolation.

[ruby saffron]

It does demonstrate interest to an extent

If a game falls off very quickly it usually has issues retaining players, 2042, halo infinite, vanguard

[velvet sand]

It demonstrates that big-name streamers all focused on one game for a day before largely going back to their normal routines. It's a beta, they just wanted to play the shiny new thing for their audience.

[foggy tundra]

i believe the beta was available via twitch drops

which required watching

so it does gauge interest

[velvet sand]

That too, leveraging Twitch drops specifically boosts numbers while those are active, further diluting the value of the metric.

[dire quest]

I heard they were handing out 1500 beta keys every hour too

[velvet sand]

REal though, do flares have any cooldown in 2042 anymore? It genuinely feels like they're only actually "down" for like 2-3s

[hearty flame]

Seems like overwatch fans waited 3 years for a pvp patch and an attached pve mode that no one knows anything about yet

[arctic grove]

Only because people watched it for the drops I hope you know

[arctic grove]

That’s for this weekend

[edgy oriole]

only one of my friends got the code through email. us plebs had to watch twitch

[tepid agate]

Has 2042 gone back down on Steam charts?

I think before 4.0 it went down to about 1k players

After 4.0 it rose to 3k players

Now it's at 2k players 🤔

Hopefully season 1 will spike and sustain it again

[arctic grove]

Hehe

[edgy oriole]

orisa so fire in ow2

[arctic grove]

[edgy oriole]

female soldier also fire.

[ruby saffron]

That’s fucked up

[tepid agate]

Wow it warns you really people are playing lol

[ruby saffron]

BOOTED WITHOUT WARNING

[arctic grove]

Boot em

[edgy oriole]

ii think that 1 person will be fine

[ruby saffron]

I was suprised someone actually joined

I just throw the 2042 bc2 and bf3 maps on a rush playlist when I wanna listen to a podcast and chill

I leave it open if anyone wants to hop on but it’s rare

[tepid agate]

I joined some random server with 1 or 2 people before because I needed to test and adjust my flight controls

No test range so just join up and fly

[ruby saffron]

I like to host chill servers for ppl

[arctic grove]

Praying the weekly in two hours is a milsim helmet

[arctic grove]

Yeah. Just get behind cover before your vehicle finishes popping flares. Otherwise you’re fair game

They come back up relatively quickly though

[velvet sand]

It feels like absolute dogshit as infantry.

[arctic grove]

To kill ‘em?

[velvet sand]

Kill? heh

[arctic grove]

SOFLAM is no joke, sometimes pilots are silly and or too deep in enemy lines to retreat to effective cover, so if you or someone else SOFLAMs one in that predicament and you have an M5, one shot em

[velvet sand]

Can't even freakin bully them, they just fuck off for like 5 seconds and come right back. Unless you get super lucky with like 3-4 people all locking rockets on them in the 2s that you can.

[ruby saffron]

Advanced ai only aim for the head so buffing the headshot damage multiplier can create an even harder hard mode

[arctic grove]

That’s honesty when the best thing to do is SOFLAM, or hop on a heli yourself. If you lose the heli dogfight, little tip

Bail out and use the FXAA while parachuting and you’ll either kill them (assuming you did some damage to them) or scare them back to repair, rinse repeat

I use it but lowkey think the game should make it so like, specific gadgets only can be used while parachuting

[velvet sand]

I suck at flying, so I don't waste an aircraft (hate it, too). So I'm basically left with only ground counter, which is to be basic and play Rao with Soflam and pray my team has at least 2 brains on it.

[arctic grove]

Rao gets hella annoying because you don’t even necessarily have to do anything else but hack. It makes just being near contested zones hell, especially if they get hit with a hack while a friendly vehicle is on to them

Part of me hopes that the datamined specialist hale has a different gadget ability. It’s been datamined to be a controllable drone that can disrupt vehicles

As if there weren’t enough things to disrupt vehicles in game

[tepid agate]

It's a good way to counter the oP vehicles

[arctic grove]

True, but to be fair the vehicles are only as good as the player and not necessarily OP. Maybe it can be integrated well assuming when he’s introduced to the game if he is that’s his gadget, but we’ll see

[tepid agate]

The condor is op with it's cannon. Takes no skill to fly just hover, rinse the team with a cannon then accelerate away. Just annoying repeating cycles. Good Rao can help hecnge that

[arctic grove]

Decent transport pilots give me depression

Especially if there’s 2-3 of them. Its why I literally refuse to defend on breakthrough because it’s not worth remotely trying to defend objectives

[tepid agate]

If "Transport" vehicles are stacking up more kills than jets and attack helicopters because of a specific weapon it has, then that weapon is the problem. Remove the cannon and keep the machine guns