battlefield-2042

[radiant prism]

Don’t you know disagreeing with someone is called being triggered?

[fiery shoal]

i dont agree with that.. shit now im triggered

[fallen yarrow]

It's not hatred, I've just stated my point and the reasoning why I'm calling DICE out on it

[slate meadow]

triggered

[copper fulcrum]

Triggered is SO 2016

[fallen yarrow]

You're just trying to gaslight because you don't agree with me

[fiery shoal]

not even close...

[slate meadow]

nyphon you do gaslight alot

[fallen yarrow]

It is exactly what you are doing

[fervent grotto]

Get with the times old man

[fiery shoal]

its buzzword time

[fervent grotto]

He does have a point

[uncut bay]

a point has certainly been made

[arctic grove]

I was really talking about doom3 that was a good game

[fervent grotto]

I’d say about 3-4 points if we’re counting

[copper fulcrum]

Real MFs play Rise of the Triad.

[uncut bay]

several points in production

[arctic grove]

I look it up and see if it’s my tipe of game

[copper fulcrum]

It's actually pretty fun

[fiery shoal]

i wonder how many people even know what gaslighting really is

[arctic grove]

I probably give it ago

[copper fulcrum]

While you're looking that up, try Blood. But not Blood 2. Never try that.

[slate meadow]

it means to make a whole bunch of pancakes right?

[arctic grove]

I YouTube later see what there like

[copper fulcrum]

Gaslighting is how I make my steak

[uncut bay]

it's that thing that firefighters deal with

[slate meadow]

REAL mofos play prototype 2

[fervent grotto]

I prefer charcoal

[copper fulcrum]

Same, it was a shit joke anyways

[fiery shoal]

"2+2=5"
"thats not right"
"dont gaslight me"

[fervent grotto]

Real mfs play phantom forces (idk what games we talking about)

[copper fulcrum]

Last game I suggest is Hedon Bloodrite. Even if it does look like an adult only game from the cover.

[slate meadow]

you gaslighting me bro?!

[fiery shoal]

damn when "dont taze me bro" isnt even a gif...

[arctic grove]

It’s old game but funny as hell Armed and Dangerous

[slate meadow]

to mbe fair nyphon i dont think the equation was 2+2=5

[copper fulcrum]

It does look funny

[arctic grove]

YouTube the cutscenes

[fiery shoal]

of course its way more nuanced and complicated than that, but the gist is the same

[fervent grotto]

Idk guys just play payday 2

[slate meadow]

kind of i mean maths is a fact and everything in here is opinion

[fervent grotto]

Except for every word I speak. Everything I say is fact

[slate meadow]

problem is dice and ea gave way to much ammunition to those who do want to bitch

[fiery shoal]

id argue that going on a several months campaign on how dice is horrible because they lied about progression and reacting aggressively to people saying its not a big deal is not the appropriate reaction though...

[civic mason]

Ayo why does is fucking suck to defend on breakthrough

[copper fulcrum]

We should be able to earn EXTRA for playing SOLO

[fallen yarrow]

Nyphon seems like he has a lot of experience with this...constantly distorting the messages/statements that others make, and then build up these stupid arguments to try and win

[copper fulcrum]

I've had it! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[fervent grotto]

It just won’t stand!

[slate meadow]

meh its gonna happen if companies charge a premium and deliver a steamy poop but agreed if your that worked up just uninstall and move on

[fallen yarrow]

Calling out DICE on lying about progressions = going on a several months campaign on how dice is horrible because they lied about progression and reacting aggressively to people saying its not a big deal

[copper fulcrum]

As if Nyphon was the one that 'built it up' ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

[fiery shoal]

you know this was directed towards max who has literally done that...

[slate meadow]

max pain? why have they not made a remake of that gam

[fervent grotto]

Idk man Nyphon can be a tad confusing sometimes ngl

[copper fulcrum]

You spelled "Payne" wrong and they are remaking 1+2

[slate meadow]

shush

[fiery shoal]

afaik they are?

[slate meadow]

but why not already xD

[copper fulcrum]

Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1+2
Max Payne 1+2

[slate meadow]

1+2 = 4 right ? dont gaslight me

[fiery shoal]

probably has to do with rights considering it was a rockstar/remedy game

[copper fulcrum]

🔥

[slate meadow]

they gonna remake bully aswell?

state of decay 2 is a pretty solid game

[fervent grotto]

So I got curious and looked up “pen%s” in the gif section

[fervent grotto]

Probably not. It’s to controversial

[slate meadow]

let me guess it was a self portrait of you

haha i know in the uk they renamed it xD

[copper fulcrum]

It's actually nice but it gets stale pretty quickly

[fervent grotto]

No but it was hilarious

[hexed mango]

pew pew

[slate meadow]

my issue exactly they needed to put way more time into a proper multiplayer

anybody played world war z/aftermath

looking for a decent survival game to play

[restive saddle]

Have you tried 7DTD

[slate meadow]

Nope

Does it play good on controller I can't be bothered to sit at my desk any longer

[restive saddle]

It's ok I guess. I just got it today, can be customized. It is free on Xbox (with game pass)

you can make it as easy or hard as you want

[slate meadow]

Is it multiplayer

[restive saddle]

Yea

[slate meadow]

What is it a b4b knockoff

[restive saddle]

what, Back 4 Blood? Def not, it's old, maybe like 4-6 years ago it was made

[slate meadow]

Why is it in game preview then 😂 😂

[restive saddle]

New for Xbox, it was originally PC only + I think indie devs, they might still be working on it actually, idk

[slate meadow]

Yeah it's still in game preview for some reason so you have 7 days to do what exactly?

[restive saddle]

7 Days is just the name, but iirc every 7th day is a blood moon

it has dynamic weather effects, temperature and stuff

I'd say they worked it kinda like DayZ

[slate meadow]

i cant stand dayz

i bought it a refunded it within 5minutes

[restive saddle]

I hear 7 is better in a comparison, so far I've only had 2 issues

[slate meadow]

why cant they put BL3 on gamepass damn it

[restive saddle]

there can be multiple doors to a building for the same entrance, of varying material types (basically it can be wood, then metal, then wood again) and it's got fully random world gen, but the gen is like

I got spawned in the middle of a desert and only found an empty house after around 20 minutes

[gray comet]

What even is DayZ

[hexed mango]

boris kinda sus

[slate meadow]

The worst game ever it was made off of a armour 3 mod

[hexed mango]

he said "stay alive and keep an old man company" to sundance

[restive saddle]

after dying it set me elsewhere, seems pre-determined but it was a destroyed town (the majority of it being irradiated ruins)

[slate meadow]

Sounds like the spawns of bf2042

[gray comet]

I love games with ionizing radiation

[restive saddle]

so at least from initial experience it can probably be easy to get done over

[slate meadow]

Hey we know you just died but we are gonna spawn you right Infront of 3 enemies

[restive saddle]

Irradiated areas seem to be where dogs spawn (faster than you unless you are running, but if you run out of stamina lol, they did half my health in one hit)

You don't keep anything after dying, but it can be recovered thankfully

though you also get debuffed for it

I haven't figured out how to recover wellness yet but basically, dying or negative effects reduce your maximum hp and stamina until you recover wellness

Food that isn't meat seems decently scarce in my world, but meat attracts the infected

[slate meadow]

sounds like a pain in the arse

[hexed mango]

we lost and one of my teammates said "the jews did this"

🤡 what the fudgehandles

[fervent grotto]

Lmao the internet is awesome

[arctic grove]

Hello

@tall stone when is season 1 commin?

[chilly oak]

1 month left, june

[fiery shoal]

is that the official date?

last i heard its still early summer

[arctic grove]

ok.

[chilly oak]

pretty sure

early summer is june right

[chilly oak]

gimmie a sec

[fiery shoal]

id say even into july could count as "early summer"

[chilly oak]

june 16 is the earliest date, because of schedueled weekly missions

[fiery shoal]

so middle of june at the earliest, end of july at the latest for "early summer"

just splitting the 3 months of summer into thirds and assigning them "early, mid and late"

[arctic grove]

[elder patrol]

Pie

[silk jasper]

2042 vehicle team deathmatch is one of the worst modes ive ever played in a game

[silk surge]

Has anyone else wondered why the backlash against specialists came so late? Why did it take all the way up until the beta for people to complain - when specialists were announced the same day as the reveal trailer dropped?

[silk jasper]

because people never realised how bad specialists were going to be until they got hands on experience in the beta

they thought it was going to be different

[ruby saffron]

I’m a top 1% 2042 player because only 1% of the player base is active

[silk surge]

They should have though. I literally got downvoted on the subreddit for commenting that they were doing away with classes, had a bunch of guys telling me I was wrong lmao. DICE were very clear and concise what the specialist system meant for the game.

[tame vine]

Personally I initially didn't see specialists as a major issue. Sure it needs some balancing done but I wasn't too bothered. My biggest issue was Factions. We're literally fighting copies of ourselves, which breaks the immersion so much. Lets say they split it like 5 specialists for US and 5 for RU, with shared abilities. That would've been so much nicer

[silk jasper]

everybody was defending the game up until the beta and even then people were still defending it because ea claimed it was a "3 month old build" so you were bound to get downvoted if u called out anything against the game prior

my issue with specialists is the identification, as @tame vine i hate playing as boris then killing a boris on the other side

[arctic grove]

[silk surge]

My main problem with specialists are the balancing issues. Not really fun to play with ground vehicles when there are 64 medics in the enemy team with Carl Gustav equipped. Would also be nice make the specialists more ambiguous-looking (hide their faces etc) so it doesn't look like there are clones of the same people running around.

[silk jasper]

ruins the immersion completely

[arctic grove]

Lul

[silk jasper]

and ofc @arctic grove is here again to defend anything that is said against the game irrespective of constructive criticism or not

[ruby saffron]

I got down voted back in the day for saying the launch state would suck and if you can’t take that wait a year, who’s laughing now?!

[arctic grove]

Boo hoo

[silk surge]

To be fair, the clone part has gotten a lot better as people have mixed and matched with skins, but there are room for improvement on that front.

[arctic grove]

Specialists need masked operator type like skins for sure, it’s definitely an immersion problem that I understand. I personally enjoy the game but yeah, we really need that

The reason I almost entirely use Dozer is because his blast specialist helmet is so damn cool lol

[silk jasper]

Specialists should have a standard skin tailored to each faction, the character itself can remain

[arctic grove]

I guess saying Lul is me defending the game isn’t it

[silk surge]

Same, I got heavily downvoted for commenting "I will eat my own **** if this Battlefield isn't released broken", got met with "3 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT" retorts. I'm either correct about something, or I haven't been correct yet.

[silk jasper]

No the fact that you send :FeelsDumbMan: everytime someone says something negative about the game

[tame vine]

Imagine if we got the AI helmets as skins, god that would be so good 😩

[silk jasper]

Regular coincidence

[arctic grove]

You got a problem with that? I can do what I want

[silk surge]

When are they releasing that Boris gimp mask?

[arctic grove]

I kinda imagine they’ll allow us to eventually use the AI outfits, but maybe not carbon copy

[silk jasper]

They should just give us what was depicted in the trailer

[arctic grove]

To be fair we did get that

Yep

[silk surge]

They'll probably release a new faction in PORTAL called "Class-based 2042" with AI skins and 2042 loadout just to shut people up.

[arctic grove]

The only thing from the trailer we didn’t get is Sundances T1 helmet as a tier 4/level 80+ unlockable skin, or Raos helmet skin

[silk surge]

Sundance was supposed to have a helmet for all of her skins. But this was changed during the final months before release.

[arctic grove]

I’d ply it honestly. With no modifiers so you can level up everything as well. It just simply isn’t specialists

In AOW, skins that make each specialist look more like US/US allied or RU/RU allied will satisfy me, let us all mask up and not obviously look like clones of each-other

By allied I mean like Canadian, German, etc type like tacticool skins and what not and same for RU allies

[ruby saffron]

Battlefield 2042 enjoyer
Battlefield 2042 critic

[arctic grove]

[silk surge]

I'm a staunch critic of the game, but that's because I want what's best for a game that I moderately enjoy.

[arctic grove]

After seeing the reception to 2042 after remembering how hype everyone was in June, I just want it to do as good as possible to make up for that imo

Despite that, I still personally enjoy the game

Except for when I’m defending in breakthrough

[silk jasper]

Maybe 2042 was a spinoff, Battlefield 6 next game

[silk surge]

Defending in rush/breakthrough has always been a pain in the ass. That is one thing universal across every Battlefield that has either of those two gamemodes.

[quasi patio]

It was supposed to kill vanguard like bf1 killed infinite warfare

[arctic grove]

Mm but then again that was a totally different time with its own problems. “I want boots back on the ground” was a gigantic thing so the first triple A that hopped on that would undoubtedly blow infinite warfare out of the water, since that was like one of YouTube’s most disliked videos to date

[silk surge]

Vanguard kinda killed itself

Or maybe Vanguard and 2042 killed each other off?

[arctic grove]

And halo dealt the finishing blow

Then also said I sleep

[silk jasper]

well its not doing as bad as people are making it out to be, definitely more content daily

Its not dead

is what am saying but its not doing as good as previous cod titles obv, MW2 am quite excited about really

[arctic grove]

Although every cod release gets shat on yeah, they got content down packed

[silk jasper]

what infinity ward produced for mw2019 has me excited for MW2s offering but I shall be cautious giving the current climate of gaming

[silk surge]

Backblasted by my own teammate. Gotta love hardcore.

[arctic grove]

Well one things for certain and it may have some of the most sales in a while, nostalgia is a powerful tool for marketing

[silk jasper]

anyone play 2042 vehicle mode in the portal this week, i found it truly awful nobody was even in a vehicle

[pastel sapphire]

Haven’t touched this game for weeks. Have they brought clan tags back?

[arctic grove]

No offense but… are clan tags why you haven’t touched the game in weeks?

[silk surge]

Nobody likes that abomination of a mode. Yet Ripple is all like 'yeah lets re-debut that one and two hardcore modes'.

[whole plume]

Has his priorities set straight brother

[silk surge]

Like, every fucking vehicle deathmatch game its one team spawn locking the other team.... just why would that shit ever leave the drawing table?

[pastel sapphire]

@arctic grove actually, ea has slowly killed any reason to have a bf community anymore. Went back to bfv after 2042 because we couldn’t see our tags amount other things.

[arctic grove]

I shall play it now so I can fit in with the discussion

[silk jasper]

apart from flashback every mode they have released thus far is so fucking underwhelming esp. what they promised for portal mode, even then flashback is starting to become boring with the same maps every time

[whole plume]

Alot of things leave the drawing table because EA workers have to share there one brain cell

[arctic grove]

Don’t expect clan tags for a while. The game has way more problems than a lack of clan tags right now. In the same breath, no the game doesn’t have clan tags

[pastel sapphire]

Also haven’t been in this discord for weeks, because every one just complains about a crap game over and over again , and nothing changes

[whole plume]

My clan tag is gonna be MPF

Milf piper forever

[quasi patio]

mw2 needs to remove doors and have better maps

[whole plume]

MW2s ass

[arctic grove]

Understandable

[silk surge]

I got a platoon from BFV called [CBK] AKA Cobra Kai.

[whole plume]

Watch mw2 be mw 2019 with a mask

[pastel sapphire]

Also don’t expect a good game… that also going to take a while.

[whole plume]

Dw my summit racing magazine doesn't disappoint like video games does

[silk jasper]

well nobody can say anything at this moment given that nothing has been released

[cyan trout]

to them fixing the game to the point of being 'good' subjectively

[pastel sapphire]

Ive moved on. I just shut down our clan website after 4.5 years. Can’t see playing another 3 years of BFV while ea figures this all out. I’m already ranked 34th in the world for time played on the Xbox.

[silk jasper]

how many hours

[pastel sapphire]

Number 1 on Xbox for fleigerfsust kills

[whole plume]

Only 29,499 bucks for a pre built stock 1000hp engine that's honestly not fucking bad

[pastel sapphire]

Over 4800 hours

I can’t kill anymore planes!!!

[whole plume]

Jesus Christ respectfully that's disappointing how much time do you have bro?

[pastel sapphire]

https://youtu.be/_qtSB0PVogw

[silk surge]

holy shit bucket

[pastel sapphire]

Tbh it was fun.

[whole plume]

34th in the world for time played on Xbox let's not pass that up I'm like give or take what do you do ?

[pastel sapphire]

Covid gave me a lot more time to play. I was averaging 40-50 hours a week pre Covid and way more during it. Lol. I’m a loser.

[whole plume]

Jesus 💀

[silk jasper]

its a good game but i cant imagine playing for that long due to the lack of content IMO but glad you enjoyed it

[whole plume]

I get 3 hours a fucking day

[silk surge]

I have 1200 hours myself... but man.... 4800 hours, that's a bachelor's degree worth of hours.

[whole plume]

Dude 40-50 hours ? I got a pay check for working 💀 impressive but Jesus it don't get repetitive?

[arctic grove]

Especially if the game was well made

[pastel sapphire]

I am self employed and don’t have to work all that much to make a living. Now I’ve found another time waster after Covid to network. And grow my business.

I spent a lot of time and money growing the clan (BIO)

[whole plume]

Jesus least your not like a destiny player I've met averaging 50-90 hours a week dude never left his room and had a ladder to his window for Uber eats to climb up and deliver food 💀💀💀

[pastel sapphire]

Refocusing now to projects regarding Decentralized Social Media (DeSo)

@whole plume impressive. Most my meals are door dash too but just because I’m lazy to go to the store

[whole plume]

No excuse me his lowest time he averaged was 50 hours his average time was 90 to something else

💀he didn't sleep he lives off fast food and nic salts and probably other substances the human body does not need

[silk jasper]

Y'all just have too much time to kill i only can play 1-2 hrs at most per day before am exhausted/bored

[pastel sapphire]

Now you guys are making me want to play some Bfv. Might have to get on tonight. My gamer tag is the same if you are on Xbox.

[silk jasper]

ive too much shit to get on w/

[whole plume]

Thats a dude I met I got 3 hours a day maybe

[silk jasper]

games just dont entertain me anymore

[whole plume]

This racing magazine is just what I needed I finally found my wiring harness I need for my GTO 😩

[pastel sapphire]

@silk jasper agreed

love the human interaction in parties though

[wide violet]

iS tHe GaMe GoOd YeT

[ruby saffron]

It’s aight

[tall yew]

ThEey NeED To NeRF blahBLAHBLAH

[arctic grove]

Modern Gaming

[ruby saffron]

I tell ya, it’s the same shit every time. People leave in droves say it’s the worst game ever made blah blah blah. Then the 10$ ultra badass premium king chad edition comes out and then everyone out there saying it was such a misunderstood masterpiece.

“Man bf4 sucks oh my god bf3 is so much better”
“Man bfhardline sucks bf4 was so much better”
“Man bf1 sucks bfhardline was so much better”
“Man bf5 sucks bf1 was so much better”
“Man bf2042 sucks, bf5 was so much better”

[tall yew]

Yup, they all say the same exact thing. It's like they were programmed to say the same thing over and over

[ruby saffron]

Battlefield loses a huge chunk of players the first few months, sits idle and cranks out dlc and then lo and behold a year later everyone’s acting like they always were there with it

[tall yew]

Honestly it's best not to talk to them. They have nothing new to say and are just repeating talking points from reddit

[ruby saffron]

My favorite is the “cringe specialists” you literally only really interact with them at the end of the game for 5 seconds come on what are you talking about, talk about some real issues like the server issues or something

[tall yew]

eW NeEd ClAsSesS

[velvet sand]

Man, ain't that the pot calling the kettle black here : P

[ruby saffron]

Like I really don’t care. I’d like more cohesive teamwork but it’s not as bad as people are on about

The game is fine, not amazing not awful. It’s what it is

[tall yew]

Ya the internet is praising 2042. Im saying what everyone else is saying. /s

[ruby saffron]

Mark my words, once the next battlefield comes out, 2042 is gonna have like 19k players like V does right now. It happens every time

[velvet sand]

Probably because it'll be the same problem that you highlighted earlier : P New game launches in dogshit state after previous game finally gets into a good state, people remember the good state of the last game more than the initial dogshit state of the last game.

[ruby saffron]

It’s the dice tradition

[velvet sand]

It is, and it's a shitty, awful, no-good tradition that honestly nobody should be going, "this is fine" to and should instead ask DICE when they'll actually learn anything.

[ruby saffron]

People act like it’s new with this game, I’ve seen it happen over and over and over, when I get battlefield on launch day I’m amazed if it fucking works when I boot it up

[fervent grotto]

We shouldn’t be though! It’s a triple A game and it should launch like dogshit

[velvet sand]

I don't think anyone is acting like it's "new". More that it's astounding that DICE is making the same mistakes every bloody time and seems unable to learn/improve.

Game's alright now, but still has an extremely long way to go to come close to achieving the potential and promise that DICE sold it on.

[ruby saffron]

My main issue is people masturbate over 4 1 and 5 like they were paragons of the series, the launches of those games were as fucked as this in many ways

It’s the constant moving of goal posts and not holding dice accountable

[velvet sand]

The internet is fickle.

[fervent grotto]

Also that fact they dropped battlefront 2 and BfV for this game

I still want Russian dlc in BFV

[ruby saffron]

Dice knows they can get away with this shit, they know once s1 and 2 roll out people will trickle back and buy bundles and whatever

[fiery shoal]

bf4 being objectively the worst launch, hell it would barely be playable now if it launched when 2042 did

[ruby saffron]

It’s aggravating

[tall yew]

I want russian DLC in 2042

[ruby saffron]

I’ve said it a million times, at least 2042 didn’t brick my Xbox like 4 did.

[fiery shoal]

i didnt play bf1 launch, but i heard it was pretty good, so it sounds like in terms of functionality it sounds like bf1 > bf 2042 > bfv > bf3 >>>>>>>> bf4

unfortunately 2042 has a bunch of bad design choices and outright lacks a bunch of things that were in previous titles

[ruby saffron]

2042 works surprisingly well for a launch battlefield, the problem is lack of content and bad choices

[fiery shoal]

people wanna act like since its a bad 2042 game though, they can say any nonsense like saying it doesnt work or some shit

the worst problem was bad hit reg for 2 weeks...

[ruby saffron]

I appreciate they tried something new, it’s in many ways refreshing but they saw warzone and wanted some of that cake and didn’t do it right

[velvet sand]

Agreed, but also that moment when "Well, the game mostly works at launch." is a highlight for a AAA studio lol

[fiery shoal]

in the same vein though it is a complicated game, that seemingly no one else but dice can pull off

[ruby saffron]

I was sure back in the day bf4 would die

[fiery shoal]

the best attempt was cods ground wars and that sucked...

[velvet sand]

I don't really buy this line since that's entirely their own choice. Likely unintentional, but this is the de-facto argument for Star Citizen fans whenever there is criticism about the games insanely long and odd development process. "Nobody else is trying to be this ambitious!" well...being ambitious like this isn't always inherently a good thing : |

But that's actually something I've thought about a lot in regards to modern gaming - there's too much focus on trying to do a lot of super complex and ambitious stuff that, often times, seems to exist for no reason beyond a marekting feature or something.

[fiery shoal]

its just a point of consideration, no one would be impressed if dice released a basic 5v5 arena shooter that worked flawlessly and was more fun than 2042

[velvet sand]

That games could absolutely hugely benefit from more narrow focus/simplicity at times, instead of just continuing to layer on systems on systems. Sometimes simplicity results in improved quality across the board.

[fiery shoal]

id argue that pushing the tech barriers for gaming is staple of the bf franchise

which when they eventually killed it they werent rewarded for it, at least not directly in terms of sales

[velvet sand]

When did they kill it? >.>

[fiery shoal]

kill it as in a good thing

[ruby saffron]

I think it’s good people were more harsh on dice this time, it’s time they stop letting them get away with this cycle of broken launches

[fiery shoal]

bf3/4 after making the game functional, and bf1

[ruby saffron]

Is it disappointing that 2042 lost most of its players? It is. But do I have hope for the future? Yeah I do

[fiery shoal]

bf1 is seemingly the only bf title that got rewarded for its technical prowess

[velvet sand]

Because it was a good game at its core for the most part and oozed character, IMO. I don't think BF sells mostly on pushing techincal boundaries. It sure helps, but honestly I think if DICE just gave folks a good core BF experience without trying to do, "WHOA LOOK AT THIS CRAZY LEVELUTION EXTREME WEATHER WITH BEHEMOTHS ALL IN ONE GAME!" they'd be way better off.

[fiery shoal]

not saying 2042 deserves more sales/praise for making a technically harder game, just showcasing something i believe is a bit of a flawed mentality within the gaming community

[ruby saffron]

I will always believe the 128 gimmick is what caused this mess in the first place. They pushed the engine too far this time

[fiery shoal]

"I think if DICE just gave folks a good core BF experience", personally i think 2042 was an attempt at going to the core of the BF franchise (large scale combined arms warefare), they just fucked up everything else...

[fervent grotto]

Yea bigger doesn’t mean better, especially in the case of this game. Because of 128 we tons of large barren maps with a few POIs

[fiery shoal]

like.. they focused TOO much on that one concept

[ruby saffron]

They were so focused on the battlefield moments they forgot to add the battlefield

[velvet sand]

I love 128 in theory, but 100% this. The concessions required seem far too big for what little the bigger match sizes add (i.e. largely garbage maps and an inability to add more complexity to them without major work, like more civilian vehicles). Though honestly mostly the game just feels like they scrapped it late in development and threw 2042 together with the pieces of the last game in like 8-12 months. I'm still hoping we get a Schreier-esque post about how things went sideways during development.

Though I remain on team "get rid of Frostbite, it's more of a liability than an asset now." based on all the reporting on the engine.

[ruby saffron]

Frostbite is a decrepit engine

[velvet sand]

Reports are literally that it's a nightmare for every team working with it, and it was highlighted in both the ME:A and Anthem articles as a major problem for BW when it came to development.

[fiery shoal]

ehh until i hear from a dev that has worked on frostbite vs other engines and can say another engine can handle what BF demands i wont subscribe to that train of thought

[velvet sand]

Sure is weird that the best performing studio within EA (minus FIFA which is a money printing machine), Respawn, is also the only studio that doesn't use Frostbite 🤔

[ruby saffron]

It really feels like dice was working on an apex legends but for battlefield and cobbled this together in a year

[fiery shoal]

considering we dont have a true bf like competitor it seems no other engines are viable

[velvet sand]

Somehow I doubt that UE4, or even the early version of UE5, wouldn't be able to create a solid Battlefield experience.

Not saying "UE is the best engine!" but it's a very good one. I do wish EA would take more of the Ubi approach and have a few tailored in-house engines for their different teams rather than trying to unify it all under one engine which...seems to be working poorly in the longterm.

Even BW is moving away from Frostbite with ME4 (though keeping it for DA4)

[fiery shoal]

for all we know the UE engine hype is because of simplicity or something else

[ruby saffron]

At the end of the day I think dice will do it again and pull this wreck together, but it’s really time to break the cycle

[velvet sand]

It's because it's a damned good engine and Epic has been putting a lot of effort into making working with it easier, and doing things faster to speed up development. I haven't followed UE5 super closely yet, but I've seen a fair amount of positive chatter from devs starting to work with it.

[fiery shoal]

it could be like the ps3, supposedly really hard to dev for, but if you learned it you could pull off some amazing shit.

[ruby saffron]

I hate that stupid steam chart, people throw it around acting like that’s the entire player count, it’s a sign the game ain’t doing great but the real numbers are probably around 50k on all platforms combined

[fiery shoal]

im not saying UE isnt amazing, hell i have no clue, im just wondering whats amazing about it really

hardly anything is better than another entity in all aspects

[tranquil turtle]

UE5 isn't simple, it just looks really good

[fiery shoal]

its not like an engine is purely the left graph with one just being outright better, they are more like the ones on the right, with varying degrees of pros and cons

[hexed mango]

well i may or may not have just woken up from a mid-day flu nap

OOOH we're talking about engines... this is my field

UE5 is actually pretty simple, imo better than 4, not as good as Unity though.
its a nice engine, dont get me wrong, but its more for the cinematic feel of gameplay, something with an environment without complicated case usage, aka not something for a Battlefield game.

[dire quest]

Battlefield runs on frostbite no?

[hexed mango]

Frostbite has indeed had its difficulties, as it holds a library of different game functionality (ranging from Battlefield to Madden, to PvZ)
Making it a little more complicated when deciding how to use it

Especially with the updates the 2042 team had to make on it [due to the need to create a better foundational framework for the other game modes) and that shortened their dev cycle for it

[hexed mango]

they use an unspecified new version, which they developed prior to game development (the 2019-2020 development)
wikipedia suggests its "4.0" however they also say its unknown which version it is

[desert elbow]

The source for that claim is unreliable

It's a news article which doesn't have proof

[dire quest]

Also what's with the "update to the portal xp system"? Still seems the same to me?

[desert elbow]

I've heard people say since BF4 they've just been updating the engine slightly, but nothing to the extent of BF3-BF4's update

[hexed mango]

rip the EA global director of communication was annoyed at the playerbase cause they nagged them about not sending updates when they were on break
Which lead to the "brutal expectations" troll, and the guy deleted his posts
feels bad tbh.

[velvet sand]

It wasn't a good post, but Andy's a good dude and I feel bad for him. Used to run Game Informer.

[drowsy sapphire]

Lol, people gotta chill out, this is legit just a video game

People just gotta stop whining so much and be patient… and yea it’s been 6 months since release but ehh

[hexed mango]

well they are using an undetermined version, which they did say they had been working on changing the engine, ill see if I can find more

but in the meantime here's a review of the game in beta, which is positive,

which is interesting because I would say that people were more positive of 2042 in beta than they were post-release

[velvet sand]

well, that's from the open beta which was super limited and supposedly a "months old build" that ended up seeing like very much not a months old build at launch (much like Anthem)

[desert elbow]

It's weird actually, I can sort of see why. I have no clue why but the beta felt REAAAALLY good, I can't put my finger on it

[hexed mango]

plus logically, fb3 is like 8 years old, idk why they would continue using it if they had to also program in weather events

[desert elbow]

Something about it looked a lot cleaner too, of course I prefer having the full release build but something about the beta felt really good

[dire quest]

Facebook 3?

[hexed mango]

probably expectations, we had what we got, and we knew more was to come, changes were to be made, etc. and that just fueled our idea of the game, making it seem more enjoyable

[hexed mango]

yes. facebook.

[dire quest]

What would y'all say is better? Wingsuit? Or Grappling Hook?

[hexed mango]

but features that needed to be changed, which they probably did for this frostbite (what we'll call FB4 for now):

• physics (grapple hook especially, and wingsuit)
• weather
• support for next-gen consoles
• 128 players
  stuff like that

[white geyser]

Wingsuit so I can fly

[hexed mango]

depends, its case-specific in my mind
but grapple hook is insane in 4.0, so I'd say that
{you can attach it to vehicles and it will stay on the vehicles}

[dire quest]

I'd agree with @white geyser and go with wingsuit

[hexed mango]

you answered your own question

heheheha ik you're just asking but its funny

ok i have finished consuming my flu medicine

[dire quest]

Something about flying in this game just feels badass with the wingsuit

[hexed mango]

i agree, but in my humble opinion mackay > sundance

[dire quest]

True

[velvet sand]

I should play her some...I pretty much only play Falck.

[dire quest]

Remember when Dozer shield was invincible?

[fervent grotto]

I would feel bad if they even did communication when they weren’t on break lmao

[dire quest]

They had to remove his shield for a few days lol

[hexed mango]

they said they were on break
and they said when they were gonna be back, the hate happened while they were gone

[hexed mango]

heheheha

[fervent grotto]

Yea but they don’t even communicate when not on break so it’s really not a difference. Did they announce they were leaving?

[hexed mango]

they said they were on break
i already answered that

[dire quest]

@fervent grotto you think mw2 remastered is gonna be good?

[fervent grotto]

No MW2 that comes out this year. It’s a continuation of MW2019

[dire quest]

Have you played mw 2019 recently? Lmao nothing but hackers

[radiant prism]

Ok, I've done it. I've successfully split the Specialists by faction, along with 9 alternative appearances. Sundance, Angel, Boris, Rao, and Casper are RU, and Mackay, Irish, Paik, Falck, and Dozer are NATO/US. Lots of screenshots later lmao

[white geyser]

The name is confusing, they already remastered the original cod MW2 without the multiplayer so now the modern warfare 2022 is new and it's coming out this year

[fervent grotto]

Yep I have. I saw no hackers. I love cod so yea I’m excited

[hexed mango]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hacker-hackers-hackerman-26tPnAAJxXTvpLwJy

[dire quest]

Cod is full of hackers and ricochet ain't doing anything to stop them, it's sad

[radiant prism]

There's a little overlap as well, Dozer, Rao, and Angel have skin combos that work well as their opposite faction

[desert elbow]

I'd be grateful if you could send them to me when you're ready please. Interested to see what you have in mind

[radiant prism]

Can I DM you?

[desert elbow]

Yeah sure

[ruby saffron]

Advanced ai breakthrough is some of the hardest shit I’ve ever played in my life holy shit

[fervent grotto]

Cool but I don’t experience that and I really enjoy cod

[desert elbow]

I noticed a lot of the Specialists have similar camo options, Angel & Boris' grey camo alongside McKay, Falck & Paik's blue secondary color on a lot of their cosmetics. It looks like they originally had some sort of faction related camo

[dire quest]

Try advanced ai rush

[ruby saffron]

Tried a game of advanced ai on renewal breakthrough, they smoked us on the 3rd point, had helicopters and transports coming and going to the frontline like they were in damn arma 3

[dire quest]

Rush the advanced ai are beasts

[ruby saffron]

I swear they are better than real players

[dire quest]

Yee

[ruby saffron]

I have to fuckin sweat to actually win games

[dire quest]

Gonna start a hardcore rush game in portal if anyone wants to join

[ruby saffron]

Solo/co-op mode has some of the most intense combat in the game

Every map turns into locker from 4 levels of bloodbath

[dire quest]

I prefer portal cuz you have the 32v32 bots + players can join

[ruby saffron]

Fair but it’s a pain in the ass to use the site to make games

[dire quest]

Rush server is up, Search for "Large Scale Rush Battles" to join

[copper fulcrum]

How many fucking AI did you put?

[ruby saffron]

32v32 on the 64 player sized version of breakthrough

These ai are monsters

[cedar turtle]

[white geyser]

Indeed, I played it many times when I was trying to unlocked the Mr friendly skin for my AA tank.

[rain quest]

Why are the mics so sensitive in game

Like the no option to change sensitivity thing will pic up your nextdoor neighbor breathing

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/playboi-carti-playboicarti-sky-playboi-carti-sky-gif-21020724

[arctic grove]

@paper thistle this person bes annyoing in voice

[ruby saffron]

Did they change the color balance? Game looks darker than it usually does

[edgy oriole]

all i noticed was tornado looks better but i havent played since reset so idk

[ruby saffron]

The color tone seems more… grey than it usually does. Before 4.0 it looked more blue? I guess

[white geyser]

I never notice it since I got busy killing bots/players.

[ruby saffron]

Game looks better is all I’m sayin. Looks closer to 4 now

Bf3 teams on 2042 maps does a lot for the atmosphere

[tepid agate]

Now May is here, patiently waiting for the specialist feedback loop. Hope it comes this month.

[hearty flame]

Well so far we know that specialists are being put into a more rigid class structure. whether this means locked guns, locked gadgets, or both is unknown yet

[tepid agate]

Hmm I want to keep a sharp eye for that info drop

[copper fulcrum]

Isn't that just a leak though?

[hexed mango]

so far thats just a leak... i would be kinda against that tbh

[hearty flame]

its a leak sure but if people are gonna take the other leaks as valid then this should be too

[hexed mango]

true, but i feel like they would wait until after core-feedback to actually do it

[tepid agate]

I see a lot of data mine videos on youtuber about the things which may be happening for season 1. Anyone excited for it?

I'm interested to click on the videos to find out what's happening but I don't have that same enthusiasm like "OMG SEASON 1 IS COMING!", Mainly because of how they sold us the launch product.

[hearty flame]

considering that specialists is probably the loudest complaint this is probably what they did as a first step

[hexed mango]

i would just follow Temporyal on twitter

[tepid agate]

Yeah all these YouTubers literally share the info and say it's all from this guy

[hearty flame]

tempos the only real dataminer for bf i think

[tepid agate]

Just everytime I see all this supposedly leaked content I just exhale and wish it lived up to its hype. I'm not bashing the game I'm just, ya know

I'm a gamer who doesn't play a big variety of games. Literally battlefield is is my main go to game. I may try out other FPS games but always want to do battlefield. You don't know how bad I wanted this game to be what it should be man

I feel like I'm lost or something like what what to do now. I started playing more FIFA but deep down I just want battlfied back

[hearty flame]

the first step to not being disappointed is to have no hype. and while the older bfs dont have the shiny new features they are still playable

[ruby saffron]

Discarded on rush is a meat grinder holy shit

[tepid agate]

The amount of hours I put into the past titles since I started at BF4... Like I thought my 2042 hours will blast those but they won't even come close. I only have enthusiasm to log on once or twice a week at most

[ruby saffron]

I have found my interest in the game has increased as of 4.0

[hearty flame]

Find other things to enjoy until dice earns your attention back

[tepid agate]

Yeah I went back to play BF4 and BFV for a little while. There are elements of 2042 I like but I wish it could be integrated in some BF4 format

[tepid agate]

Yeah I like what they have done the burn really hurt from launch man. The game is getting to where is should have been. Definitely needed another year delay

[hearty flame]

Too bad the move to frostbite meant no more player made content and portal is attached to the deformed skeleton of 2042

[hexed mango]

the move to frostbite?
wdym by that

also no more player made content is just false

[tepid agate]

When I search for highest player number in a portal server, I think last time was 78 players in 1 server

[hearty flame]

refractor engine allowed for a lot of bf mods
like ww1, vietnam, and modern day conversion mods

[ruby saffron]

I suppose I’m used to it, 4 had the worst launch of all the games ever. So I was a bit desensitized to it

[copper fulcrum]

Any battlefield made before 2142 is made in the refractor engine, yes.

[ruby saffron]

Dice’s shenanigans are expected to me

[copper fulcrum]

There is Venice Unleashed but I doubt there'll be ANYTHING like the modding we'll get with BF2/1942

[hearty flame]

Theres a project reality for bf3 being made

[tepid agate]

Yeah I missed the BF4 launch I tried it about a year later but I did hear about all the bugs

But BF4 being my first battlefield omg I was so damn embraced and captivated in that it was like I was in my own Battlefield bubble and world not another game could enter the bubble all I wanted everyday was battlefield

I would love that gaming feeling for it back but it's not there

[ruby saffron]

Heh yeah the first one was the best to me. I started with 1942.

2042’s launch was technically smoother than I expected but they made a lot of… strange design choices

[edgy oriole]

i started with BC as a child

[tepid agate]

People also getting some nostalgia playing portal on old maps... This is before my battlefield time experience but omg the maps are awesome

[ruby saffron]

When you look at the parts of 2042 it’s a solid entry, needs better maps though

[arctic grove]

I technically started with

Battlefield free to play

[ruby saffron]

I very much appreciate solo mode and portal, portal is the future of battlefield

[tulip breach]

[hearty flame]

its kinda telling that some of the best parts of 2042 arent 2042 originals

[edgy oriole]

the only memory i have left of BC is the desert city map being completely leveled everytime at the end of the match. forgot the name tho

[tepid agate]

When they said no campaign because they will focus on online experiences I was even more hyped but it didn't turn out the way I thought

[ruby saffron]

I’ll take flak for this, but I love the aesthetics of 2042, the map design leaves room for improvement though. Renewal and orbital are visually stunning maps

[arctic grove]

Nah I agree with you bro

[ruby saffron]

The game looks amazing, doesn’t play amazing but oh well

[hearty flame]

there are a few lol. arica harbor? oasis? those tend to be leveled

[copper fulcrum]

TAKE HIM OUT

[ruby saffron]

Now now I will say! Rush on the 2042 maps is a blast

[edgy oriole]

who knows. i was a wee lad. brain wasnt fully developed

[arctic grove]

The destruction and overall play aren’t the best but personally it works for me. I just use LATV4s or redeploy

[ruby saffron]

As of now I prefer 2042 to bfv

[edgy oriole]

after a very quick youtube search. i think it was oasis

[arctic grove]

Both are pretty good, but I prefer modern eras over older ones, so that’s why by now I’ve pretty much surpassed my BF1 hours

[ruby saffron]

I’ll be honest I don’t really like 1 or 5

They aren’t bad

[hearty flame]

I think oasis is my most played map in all bfs. played it a ton in both bcs. its a great map

[ruby saffron]

Just not my style

[arctic grove]

Optic sights that rangefind, and of course the AH-64GX Warchief >

[ruby saffron]

2042 is fine it can’t really get worse but it can get a lot better

[hearty flame]

ohoho I assure you it can get a whole lot worse

[tepid agate]

I loved the experience to call in a doodlebug lol

[arctic grove]

Imo, it can’t and won’t get worst unless they did loot boxes or something

[ruby saffron]

It would take an obscene amount of incompetence to let it return to how bad it was

[hearty flame]

bf6, to improve performance, no more destruction. its now a larger scale cod

[tepid agate]

They are pursuing their direction of this new battlefield. I hope it doesn't get worse but won't rule out the possibility

[ruby saffron]

Ah well even if the game fucking flops on its face in s1 and completely dies at least I have my bots

[arctic grove]

I don’t see what needs to be more destructible than already is. But I suppose being able to create craters in the Kaleidoscope field and or roads is a good touch among many that can be made

Sure, larger scale COD. That’s just what happens when dice decides on larger maps. It’d cost performance otherwise

[tepid agate]

They don't have enough cover for their to be more elements of destruction

[arctic grove]

I’ll be fine going to older battlefields for more and knowing that we may get better destruction in the next title

[ruby saffron]

Perhaps one day I’ll be the number one 2042 player… because I’ll be the only one at this rate

[river burrow]

is there no sanitäter on team

[arctic grove]

Craters would make for pretty good ‘fox holes’ though

Great vs infantry and some vehicles

[tepid agate]

Yes they can certainly keep improving things

[ruby saffron]

Games stagnant until s1 but at least it’s seemingly keeping its small audience pretty steady

[arctic grove]

Well I mean I believe the damage from specialist feedback, lack of content and the other problems has already been done. I can’t think of something that would make the game even worst myself though

[hearty flame]

terrain deformation would be cool. they had a small version of that in bc1 and people used it to build under some buildings lol

[tepid agate]

Even in bf4 "Siege of Shanghai" you could bring down a whole skyscraper which was so damn cool! Although the map was probably better with it up, the biggest thing you do in in 2042 in terms of bringing stuff down is probably that tiny tower on top of the Kaleidoscope map

[river burrow]

gg no one plays sanitäter

[arctic grove]

You know what I always say

If someone isn’t medic, it’s probably time to become medic yourself

Levolutions had a mixed reception and personally with like 700 hours in 4, they were okay but I more so preferred the maps without them

[white geyser]

I want to see a building collapse in 2042, hourglass map will do the job just rework the map and make it better.

[eternal storm]

Content when

[arctic grove]

Maybe. But you gotta be realistic here, that could be impossible if the game wants to keep performance up

[ebon pilot]

[tepid agate]

Those smaller destructible things in BF4 also. At the ground floor, a level one floor and a rooftop. You could be having these epic infantry fights in and around these areas and the building would shake and collapse if it took too much damage

Experience was so cool but you don't get nothing like that in 2042

[arctic grove]

People probably don’t want another orbital rocket scenario where it literally rubber bands the game

[arctic grove]

Skydiving from out of the window as it collapsed

[river burrow]

I've been chosen by the tornado, all hail the tornado!

[tepid agate]

Didn't skydive out those small buildings they were too small 😄

I did these tiny rooms for shelter in 2042 which vehicles can just drive through

But the ones in BF4 with multiple layers which would shake and collapse on you if you didn't escape were much better design

[arctic grove]

What map was that on?

[tepid agate]

Forgot the name

It's kind of a big open map with a train track through the middle

But the infantry areas they had all these kinds of buildings which the battles awesome

[upbeat sand]

dice said next month

[tepid agate]

Golmud is the name

[arctic grove]

The only map I remember having a train on 4 was Golmud railway was it that?

[tepid agate]

Do you remember those small buildings

[upbeat sand]

to many tanks and heles, infantry cant do anything but jeep stuff the tanks

[arctic grove]

Yea, the two small villages? I remember those now

[arctic grove]

Sounds a lot like 2042

[tepid agate]

Like I thought Battlefield they always copy and paste things into their games and modify it a tiny bit. Carry those buildings over into this game

[upbeat sand]

but x2

[tepid agate]

Yes soooo many 😄

[upbeat sand]

Everyone in the server i was in on golmud was either in a vehicle or jeep stuffing enemy tanks including me so much the enemy team started yelling at us in the chat and rage quitting

[tepid agate]

That map had a lot of huge open spaces and it was more of a vehicle map. Literally like almost every 2042 map, those small buildings for entrance free battles they need things like that in 2042

[arctic grove]

That map was treacherous whenever I played armor, but I really prefer C4 jeeps over C5 drones, because at least one of those are something you can counter. C5 drones piss me off and I’m glad they’re going extinct

[hardy leaf]

season 1 will be delayed to early winter

[arctic grove]

Source

[upbeat sand]

Still not really a good way to take down heles other than a wildcat or a Solfam but then they can just run away behind buildings

[tepid agate]

Like, I think the tornado is 2042 is cool but could you imagine how epic it would be on a map like paracel storm? Or even making its way through flood city 😄

[arctic grove]

That’s always been the tactic honestly but it’s like even wildcats get shat on by the same thing theyre supposed to kill

[upbeat sand]

Put it on locker and watch everyone cry

[arctic grove]

Just circle a wildcat with its poor slow turret rotation flinging AGMS at it and it isn’t worth staying in the vehicle if you want a chance to live after 2-3 of them

[tepid agate]

Locker is more inside so won't effect players lol

[arctic grove]

I swear I remember SPAAGs being so much deadlier in 4

[upbeat sand]

Flankers can cry some more

[wide shore]

Locker is pretty mid.

[ruby saffron]

I found this to be the most impressive example of levoloution in 2042

[tepid agate]

Yeah that would take away one routine temporarily. On a map like that you could push the enemy back on ground level, underground or above ground level on the side

[wide shore]

Meanwhile on the Series X: “Best I can do is 3 FPS”

[ruby saffron]

Well since I’m on the series S I don’t think that’s true

[tepid agate]

Yeah that's always cool but need more across the board

[wide shore]

Ho boy. If you only knew.

Series X performance is dreadful. It isn’t a problem on the S or the PS5.

[ruby saffron]

What??? It’s like double the price of the s

[upbeat sand]

Orbital is pretty much the only type of leveloution other than discarded where you can pull back the walls on ships

[tepid agate]

Those walls don't count for anything 😄

[ruby saffron]

Leads me to think orbital is the only true battlefield map made not for the battle royale it used to be lol

[cedar turtle]

Again. Add animals to the game.

[arctic grove]

Do you want poorly rendered seagulls?

[wide shore]

https://youtu.be/R-1gyOn-9hQ

[cedar turtle]

It's what I deserve

[wide shore]

This shit happens to me basically any time there’s a storm event. Mostly on Hourglass, but also on Discarded & Manifest

[tepid agate]

Like the stand out differences for the map impact

Siege of Shanghai - pull down a skyscraper

Paracel storm - dramatic weather change

Locker - some kind of small blizzard change?

Hainan Resort - pull down the sides of the building people were fighting for

Flood City - flood the city lol

Rogue Transmission - bring down the center piece

Very memorable and cool experiences

[wide shore]

Honestly, that video is pretty tame compared to how fucked my game gets

[ebon pilot]

man I will never understand computers

[wide shore]

Here’s an example I posted a few months ago

[ebon pilot]

like I'm a programmer, but how my game runs like crap when I'm in a menu but runs just fine if I alt-tab baffles me

BUT, it runs just fine in menu in window, only after I've installed a new version of my graphics driver

[hexed mango]

unfocused rendering goes brrrrrtrrt

[ebon pilot]

if I restart my computer, the effect goes away

[ruby saffron]

Holy Jesus

[wide shore]

It happens basically every time I play hourglass.

When the rocket explodes the game basically freezes for 10 seconds.

Storm comes on manifest? Framerate goes to hell.

[ruby saffron]

That’s horrible oml

[wide shore]

My friends playing on the Series S: No problems at all

[tepid agate]

Because of the 4.0 update?

[wide shore]

My internet: sub 20ms ping and 900 download speed.

[ruby saffron]

That’s scuffed

[hexed mango]

im my experience they fixed that on 4.0... ig it could just be xbox but that's sad lol

[wide shore]

Nah it’s been a problem since launch. Still a problem now.

[ruby saffron]

Is it running it in 4k?

[wide shore]

I think the game uses variable scaling for resolution. But I could be wrong. It does target 4K 60

[tepid agate]

Hmm never seen that. Recently I thought I had a problem with the game but then realized it's my controller had stick drift lol

[ruby saffron]

Series s doesn’t give a damn about res, keeps a rock solid 60

[wide shore]

I’ve had people accuse my internet. But it literally only happens on Hourglass when the storm rolls in. Or on Discarded & Manifest when the tornado rolls through. That’s not coincidence.

[tepid agate]

Maybe need to buy the 2042 premium addition lol joke

[wide shore]

Here’s an even worse example.

Holding the trigger down btw

[ruby saffron]

2042 maps with bf3 teams is chad

[hexed mango]

currently booting FO76 for the first time in like a year

[ruby saffron]

An example of a fixed game

[arctic grove]

all games have that capacity so I don’t see why it’d be different for battlefield

[tepid agate]

I don't know about the games before BF4 launch

But from my experience of being at the launches of BF1, BFV and 2042

BF1 was good but not the other 2

Have any of the battlefield before 4 also had good launches or is it like a continuous trend they deliver like this?

[arctic grove]

I’m not sure I wasn’t around for those. Earliest reference I can give is one account someone else made here when 3 launched and they said that game had a performance problem

[ruby saffron]

In gameplay the nopats see the hud themselves yes? The way it’s curved look like it’s mapped to goggles.

[arctic grove]

Yeah it’s digital so makes me wonder where that is on someone like falck or rao with no visible visors of some sort

Advanced eye technologies I suppose

[ruby saffron]

Contact lenses in the future

[forest snow]

never noticed or checked but with Sundance's tier 1 helmet in the artwork you can see the hud in 3rd person on her visor can you in game?

[ruby saffron]

I like in game explanations for gameplay elements

[copper fulcrum]

If 2042 was originally going to be BR, it would be a very small player count lol

[forest snow]

has some element of truth to it the US army is currently testing a system which is a digital hud for soldiers.

[wide violet]

128p on one map?

[copper fulcrum]

Even 32 player Battle Royale would be too big for the size of the maps, except for like Breakaway or Hourglass

And I mean with the typical closing space and shit

[wide shore]

I think people forget how big Halvøy is. And that was only for 64 players

[wide violet]

firestorm was only 64 ppl?

[wide shore]

Yup

[ruby saffron]

I personally think battlefield is best at 64 players

128 is a cool gimmick and all, but I prefer 64

[wide violet]

huh, yeah no it coudlve had 100 for more shits and giggles

[copper fulcrum]

Hell, Hazard Zone ain't even 64 players

[forest snow]

i would take a lower player count for more destruction higher graphical power

[wide violet]

I never played HZ

I play bf for conquest and rush lol

[copper fulcrum]

Same but Hazard Zone is a nice change of pace

[wide shore]

I think the only reason you say that is because they failed to make 128 more appealing.

To me. 128 is fucking awesome. It’s a huge step forward, and I could see it becoming a fave.

So many people are saying “they should just go back to 64” but I disagree. Make 128 work. It’s what the game was built for. Abandoning would be cowardly.

[copper fulcrum]

I can't just keep having chocolate flavored ice cream, gotta have some Cookies and Cream every now and again

[wide violet]

thats like going to a burger joint and getting a chicken sandwich

[forest snow]

50 v 50

[wide shore]

That and the 64 player map layouts suck eggs in this game. (Not the portal ones obvs)

Discarded 64 is excruciatingly bad

[ruby saffron]

Discarded 64 rush is good

[wide shore]

Once they fix up the maps, and we have more DLC content. If they listen, and the map flows improve, and 128 still isn’t everyone’s forte, so be it. But they need to at least try

[wide violet]

by the time that happens the next bf will come out tho

[forest snow]

should be sure the may update in a couple weeks to

[copper fulcrum]

64 players on Rush is too much

[wide shore]

The alternative of removing 128 would just be shit. Make it work.

Show players WHY the decision was made.

[tepid agate]

Maybe TOO much work. Maybe easier to just remove

[wide violet]

they wont do that, they havent even apologized for the shitshow

[wide shore]

Easier, maybe. But not better.

[wide violet]

CoD apologized for Vanguard being poop

[tepid agate]

Same way they couldn't make it work to remove a scoreboard lol

[wide shore]

Apologies can shove it. Just make the game better. I don’t give a fuck about a shallow apology.

[forest snow]

CoD should just apologize for still being a thing

[copper fulcrum]

CoD was good at certain points

[wide shore]

A company apologizing for a shit launch, then doing nothing about it achieves nothing.

[forest snow]

yea maybe call of duty 2 which was the last time i played and enjoyed it

[wide violet]

shit launch, then doing nothing about it achieves nothing. (still shit tho)

[wide shore]

All it does is appease players who don’t even play/care about the game anyway. Just fix the game. Be better.

[wide violet]

acknowledging the blunder would be nice.

[wide shore]

They have. They’ve delayed the first season to fix the base game. And they’re reworking base maps.

[forest snow]

make it worse knowing for future feedback they will still keep going back to the gamechangers for feedback who dont play the game and not listen to the few of us still playing

[tepid agate]

They can't cater to every detail of the game for every person but listening to what most players would agree with should be in their consideration

[wide shore]

I don’t need them to say sorry to me, I need them to just listen and fix the game.

Which they’re actively doing. Slowly. But they’re doing it

[tepid agate]

2042 was a new experience. Almost like an experiment for the new direction they wanted to take the game. They are making it better by bringing back things the fans want

[wide violet]

Theres a new game every 2yrs and were almost at year 1 before the game is "good" bit scary imo

[forest snow]

they just need to get season 1 up and running asap.

[wide shore]

I honestly don’t care about future projections. I just want 2042 to reach its full potential. I don’t care if that happens now, or 2 months before the next game launches.

[thick sandal]

I hate specialists face

[tepid agate]

If season 1 is also underwhelming then I think all hope is gone

[wide shore]

Put a mask on then

[wide violet]

you cant say you dont care about the next game and you want them to fix this one. They will just drop 2042 and focus on the next one lol

[forest snow]

agreed there is a lot riding on this and needs to be plenty of content to it

[thick sandal]

i hate cringing

[compact hound]

@wide shore he might be anti-mask

[tepid agate]

Naval will definitely come in the future but I doubt season 1

[wide shore]

Considering they have already sold 4 seasons to players, I get 4 seasons of content. I couldn’t care less about the next BF game rn

[wide violet]

Like someone said earlier, they tried taking BF in a new direction and it backfired. Heavily. Ah I see what youre saying now.

[forest snow]

just seems a lot adding stuff to portal and adding to AOW at the sametime

[tepid agate]

If they said the next battlefield is going back to its roots with classes hell yeah I'm interested 😄

[wide shore]

Abandoning this game fucks them more then fixing it right now.

[arctic grove]

They were trying to be overwatch with the specialist system

[forest snow]

the next game will 100% be the class system again

[wide violet]

agreed. theyre trying to fix "All out Warfare" (dumbass name) and Portal at the same time

the fact guns from portal arent in AoW

[forest snow]

just seems a lot to do and why would they keep both updated with new content with player counts and games rep

[wide shore]

I’d say they’re kinda obligated to fix this game to win back a large potion of their fanbase. Jumping to the next game after leaving this game as a blunder would just murder them.

[wide violet]

is very weird, it extra content thats locked to just 1 mode

[tepid agate]

This is why I say 2042 was an experiment to take the franchise in a new direction.

When the past 2 battlefields are bringing in more olayer number than this "experiment" I think they have acknowledged this and will do something about it.

[forest snow]

give me battlefield 2 content in portal and all will be forgiven

[wide shore]

I wanna see some BF Vietnam stuff

[wide violet]

nah they took BF5s system and added a Star Wars battlefront 2 spin on it

[forest snow]

karkand on 2022 frostbite

[arctic grove]

It would be fine if the specialists had any personality and charm in them.
But no, they didn't even do that

[wide violet]

you can see where the concept of specialists came from with those "hero" packs or whatever they were in bf5

[thick sandal]

nah there no longer DLC so they looking for new income like these specialist.

[tepid agate]

They will always look at what's trending and try to add their own spin on it.

But you can only go so far until it doesn't feel like your origin game anymore

[forest snow]

the lore and background for 2042 im fully behind and invested in

just feel the game doesnt quite show it all

[tepid agate]

It's not working out for them though so this specialist feedback loop will be an Interesting read

[wide violet]

I think the issue is that the Core fans are just old 25+ and theyre marketing to the newer generation of gamers

[thick sandal]

which feedback ?

[wide violet]

you can see that across the board with most video games nowadays, everythings going the gacha route

[copper fulcrum]

gachi

[forest snow]

mean they are just going to put the specialists into classes

[tepid agate]

They are supposed to have another feedback loop regarding the next step with specialists but we are waiting for them to speak

[tepid agate]

We will have to see

[hexed mango]

i hope not

[forest snow]

that would be the simple thing to do they are really limtied to what they can do

[wide violet]

im like 90% sure that was confirmed

[hexed mango]

where

[thick sandal]

Speak : dont be sad this is how it workout sometimes

[tepid agate]

Some people enjoy the direction they are taking battlefield, by player numbers more don't

[wide violet]

ill try and dig it up but im pretty sure a dev said it on twitter

[forest snow]

2042 has its moments but they are very few a far between

[thick sandal]

EA u hear it ?

[tepid agate]

I recently watched a YouTuber say why 2042 will have a flaw that can't be fixed

Having the ability to call in vehicles to a location which shouldn't have vehicles

People calling in gunners on top of building raining cannons down

[forest snow]

its so annoying and upsetting seeing the franchise never reaching the heights it should be and being so mishandled

[tepid agate]

If there way a way to bring down the building which the vehicle is camping on, it would bring balance but that doesn't exist currently

[forest snow]

love to see the destruction they showed in the ea play video a few years ago showing who we now know was mckay

[tepid agate]

BF4 a commander could drop you in a quad bike not a bloody tank or attack vehicle with cannons

[wide violet]

so its a mix of a dice dev tweet, temporyal's leaks and speculation

[tepid agate]

I hope these elements of destruction are implemented

[hexed mango]

where

[forest snow]

wont be for 2042 to late for that now but for future games would be a good way to start rebuilding and recovering

[wide violet]

I just closed all my tabs dawg. Just youtube it. It'll pop up

[forest snow]

https://gamingintel.com/battlefield-2042-leak-teases-specialists-rework-classes-returning/

[wide shore]

Destruction like that is decades away in a multiplayer game with 128 players

[forest snow]

arguement to lower the player count then maybe

[tepid agate]

This is why 2042 was an experiment

[wide shore]

Even with 64 it’s still decades away

[hexed mango]

this is just the temporyal's stuff tho
and "class selection" is still super vague tbh

[forest snow]

yea but when you look at what they can do and the fact they have said they are not removing specialist that's not going to happen, there really is nothing else they can do

[wide shore]

It’s easy enough to do destruction in singleplayer games. (Still hard to do true dynamic destruction)

But in a multiplayer environment? We ain’t seeing it for a verrryyyyy long time

[hexed mango]

a stroke, you have had

[tepid agate]

Do we all just sit back and accept the lies and false advertising from the EA CEO saying this new battlefield takes the destruction and elevated it to another level

[hexed mango]

joe

[wide shore]

I can’t speak on what they said. But the video that was shown was a tech demo. Flatout. Never believe tech demos. They simply show stuff that engines are capable of, but not what games will look like anytime soon.

[arctic grove]

They're gonna keep Specialists mostly a way to sell all sorts of skins for them.

[hexed mango]

they can do the same thing with classes
i.e. bfv elites lel

[tepid agate]

This is why it's hard for battlefield lovers

On one hand you want the game to be successful and succeed

On ther other hand you see low player numbers and want them to learn their lesson

[hearty flame]

theyre legally obligated to have specialists because of the season passes sold i think

[hexed mango]

there isnt a legal bind there

[forest snow]

yea absolutely, but put them into a class system, MEDIC - Flack, angel. i don't see what else they can do.

[wide shore]

People assume that they haven’t learned a lesson. But they absolutely have. Or they wouldn’t be making the changes to maps/specialists that they are.

[hexed mango]

they are a company, and they can theoretically allowed to pull whatever they want from the game
yeah sure people will be mad, yadda yadda, but its not a legal connection

[hearty flame]

isnt there? they sold season passes with the superior versions and those included specialists

[hexed mango]

yeah thats not a legal binding still

[wide shore]

Delaying the first season to fix the game is a prime example of “we’re not gonna charge you more money for content in a game that we know is broken”

They know it’s fucked

[forest snow]

opening all the gadgets to anyone kind of broke the gameplay.

[hexed mango]

plus it shows they have the self-awareness to fix their game

[clear quail]

yup

[hearty flame]

could it be a marketing liability?

[tepid agate]

Yes they were right to not bring out more content or try and sell more so they could fix it

[hexed mango]

still isn't a legal binding, purely a public opinion thing

[velvet sand]

I mean...there's also the very real financial reason of releasing S1 as planned with almost nobody playing was not going to help the games reputation or generate any meaningful revenue. I hope they've learned their lesson, but I'm not as impressed with their actions which feel more like "commonplace actions for online games for decades when shit hits the fan"

[hearty flame]

hmm ok got it

[tepid agate]

This is why they have a lot riding on this season 1.

This is there big chance to turn it around with adding content after the success of the 4.0 clean up

[hexed mango]

hopefully

[clear quail]

yes

[wide shore]

The world is rarely black and white. They have many reasons to fix the game before S1

[forest snow]

i think the damage is done tbh, with modern warfare on the way a lot of people will go to that.

[hearty flame]

theyd have to really knock it out of the park to overcome word of mouth and memes

[velvet sand]

I agree. But I view it as much more for purely financial/practical reasons rather than "that's evidence they've learned anything"

[hexed mango]

reddit go brrt

[hearty flame]

The only way we'll see if they learned anything is with the next bf

[hexed mango]

not true

[wide shore]

The financial projections is as good a teacher as anything else

[tepid agate]

Yes. They don't just have to meet our expectations, with the damadge they have done and gravitational pulls from other upcoming games they have to go beyond

[wide shore]

Whatever the reason. They know they blundered. Therefore learning a lesson

[velvet sand]

"Cleaning up their mess" isn't the same as "learning a lesson", remains my point.

[forest snow]

mean look at 5.2 for battlefield V, look what that did to the game.

now again for 2042 not listening

[wide shore]

Remains to be seen. I’m not a fortune teller

[hearty flame]

Im sure dice hearing that ea expects them to only make up 5% of annual revenue is a wake up bell

[wide shore]

All they need to do, is when players come back after a good season (like BFV pacific) don’t fuck it up a week later like they did in BFV

[forest snow]

surely DICE is to big off a studio to go?

[tepid agate]

This is probably why they are holding off a little longer before confirming the changes to specialists.

I think they want to continue what ever scheme they had planned but want to see if the community will be happy after 4.0 and the numbers are getting back to expectations so they can continue the plan

[hearty flame]

haha ya. them launching the pacific only to fuck it up with a 2nd ttk is hilarious

[arctic grove]

They want to delay their content now, when most of the player base has left
But they didn't delay the release, when it was badly needed

[velvet sand]

Not really, that's a grossly overblown stat. Their annual revenue last year was $5.5B, with a cool $1B of that from FIFA. I'm bad at math, but 5% of that (assuming roughly similar annual revenue numbers) would be nearly $300M. That's very healthy for a "live-service" game.

[wide shore]

That likely wasn’t a studio decision.

[clear quail]

what's happened, has happened. Can't do anything about it now but fix the game

[tepid agate]

Fixing the game at release was the most important thing if all lol

[hearty flame]

nope. its gotten smaller thanks to dice la becoming ripple effect and probably able to do their own projects now instead of assisting dice stockholm

[hexed mango]

not now, 5 months ago

[velvet sand]

Too many folks hate-listened to their first ever corporate earnings call and don't know how to interpret what was said.

[hearty flame]

Im just saying what i remember from the earning call

[hexed mango]

they're quite small lmao

[velvet sand]

DICE proper still has something like 700+ folks. They're not going anywhere.

[tepid agate]

Was this the only time EA refused to release battlfied sales figures?

[forest snow]

would be a huge shame if DICE Stockholm was the next EA studio to be shutdown.

[arctic grove]

I agree on that. Ea and Dice must fix the game

[hearty flame]

I dont think theyve ever released 1 and v sales figures
though i think they also found Vs sales to be disappointing

[velvet sand]

I know, and it grossly misrepresents what the actual revenue would be because "haha 5% is small" which ignores that it's a very strong annual revenue stream for any live-service game

[tepid agate]

I could find numbers online for those but never see numbers for 2042

They just said it was disappointing and below expectations

[forest snow]

i bet not to many more sales then V

[tepid agate]

I think it would have had more sales than V

[arctic grove]

Whose decision was it then?

[wide shore]

I’d be very surprised if the game didn’t sell very well. But it’s the player retention that is the problem. That and the refunds.

[hearty flame]

I mean sure its still a lot of money but ea expects more from a flagship title that is attached to a troublesome engine and is expensive to make when compared to something like apex

[hearty flame]

I think the only figures ive seen is that V sold about a third what 1 sold in the same timeframe. and thats with sales

[tepid agate]

The expectation and hype for 2042 was huge

[wide shore]

Uhhh, the publisher? The one you’re named after?

[forest snow]

i think V was 7mil so i would say 2042 maybe 8-9mil

[wide shore]

EA wanted the holiday sales. Plain and simple.

[velvet sand]

It doesn't though. Expectations for a game like 2042 are big initial sales - which they didn't get - and then a longer tail of reduced revenue. $300M is very, very health for a game like BF2042. Fairly big MMO's with hundreds of people working at the studio like GW2 bring in well under $100M annually when they're not releasing expansions, for example.

[hearty flame]

The only numbers we've gotten for 2042 is 4 mil but that includes refunds. its also from tom henderson so take that how you will

[tepid agate]

I think it would have sold more but in that, more 2042 buyer shelved the game

[forest snow]

that was first couple weeks wasnt it?

[velvet sand]

Shit man, it's like the crowd at the local GameStop decided to have a very serious sales analysis discussion because they just read a Michael Pachter tweet.

[wide shore]

Game devs bust their asses on projects. They get forced out the door by shitty publishers like EA, and then it’s the developers fault the game isn’t perfect. Kinda silly

[hearty flame]

My point is that sure its a lot of revenue but Im sure the overhead of dice is a lot more than something like apex which makes more money at the same time

[hearty flame]

I think so. its the only figure ive seen for 2042 at all

[forest snow]

battlefield mobile could make some serious money maybe

[clear quail]

I don't think so

[velvet sand]

I'm not so sure, especially once they fully transition to the live-service portion with a reduced teamsize on 2042 and most of the team working on more projects. Again, y'all keep trying to portray it as "bad" because you don't seem to understand much/anything about the business/financial side of gamedev. Just listened to a single earnings call and now you're a Wedbush Securities Analyst.

[tepid agate]

Because it probably feels like battlefield and not the other FPS games 😄

[forest snow]

looks pretty decent from what i have seen

[wide shore]

It does have Grand Bazaar

[forest snow]

so does hardline....

[wide shore]

Well, that was also behind a $15 paywall on a full priced game that didn’t sell well to begin with.

[lavish leaf]

Hello everyone

Who wants to join

BATTLEFIELD 3 VS BATTLEFIELD BAD COMPANY 2 RUSH

128 PLAYER with new mechanic

Code: aau8zd

[wide shore]

#portal

[desert elbow]

Hardline is a great game so that's a good thing

[forest snow]

fact there is no EA play this year to means battlefield 2042 doesnt want to even try and hype up again

[tepid agate]

Who ever created that bf 2042 bingo card should send it to the Devs to help more ideas how to improve it all 😄

[hearty flame]

Im not saying that im right, just that i think that dices expense to revenue ratio is worse than apex's

[forest snow]

hummm

[hearty flame]

Remember when anthem was at EA play and they tried hyping that up after launch? lol

[forest snow]

anthem was a bioware fuck up lol

[hexed mango]

mass effect a moment

[hearty flame]

sorry I meant that if they could try hyping up the trainwreck that was anthem they can try to hype up 2042

[lyric atlas]

anthem probably was worse off than bf2042, but im not sure

[forest snow]

fact they dont want to show the game off and the new content at a event or something says a lot

[desert elbow]

You don't think so?

[forest snow]

we will just a blog post and a tralier saying season 1 starts .......

[tepid agate]

Didn't they skip some event which was like a big game show for advertising or talking about the product?

[forest snow]

it was a god awful battlefield game but a decent cops robbers shooter

[forest snow]

gamescom yea

then not long after they announced the delay.

[tepid agate]

I think that is also acknowledgment that they messed up. It's actually a good sign

[desert elbow]

I disagree, it just felt like it was more infantry based. Sorta like what Bad Company did but instead of introducing Rush it introduced Heists and a bunch of other fun arcade modes

[forest snow]

i knew something was wrong as the technical alpha and beta were exactly the same. same bugs and problems beta was maybe worse.

[forest snow]

but that isn't battlefield it shouldn't of had the battlefield name on it.

[desert elbow]

They weren't, alpha had much better graphics & effects from what I heard, paired with a few more gadgets which were cut. A lot more bugs though

[desert elbow]

Bad Company isn't like traditional Battlefield but people think it's great

[forest snow]

the alpha ran a lot better and looked better 100%

tired it on xbox and PC

[tepid agate]

Yeah a lot of people saying they wouldn't have enough time to fix it before launch

[desert elbow]

You didn't, it wasn't public

You probably played the beta

[forest snow]

it was, selected people were invited.

i still have it in my origin

[arctic grove]

Hardline was more like Payday

[desert elbow]

Could you DM me a screenshot please?

[forest snow]

exactly it was a great payday spin off.

[forest snow]

sure

[tepid agate]

I think they also selected twitch people to try and promote their game to a wider audience but just showcased their bugs

[hearty flame]

I remember that they had 4 streamers do a tourney but they had to talley kills with pen and paper lol

[tepid agate]

Did they say they wanted to remove scoreboards to stop people feeling bad about dying too much?

[arctic grove]

It was a good game, but it wasn't a good battlefield game

[hearty flame]

I dont think so? havent seen or bothered checking

[forest snow]

yea the scoreboard never bothered me but the voip being added is hell.

[lyric atlas]

best reasoning i can think of for not having a scoreboard is to not have to put as much work into anti cheat because no one knows what's happening

[forest snow]

least anti cheat seems to be working somewhat

[hearty flame]

lol didnt some big cheat maker say they arent supporting 2042 because it ran so poorly?

[forest snow]

and lack off players yea

[lyric atlas]

finally, victory against the cheaters!

[tepid agate]

I saw some news like that

[hexed mango]

of*

[hearty flame]

its some big we did it patrick we saved the city! energy

[tepid agate]

I remember when my friend said they are adding AI bots to battles in 2042.
Wasn't quite sure how I felt about that, it would be strange because the AI bot will just detect you if you are trying to stealth it through the grass.

Now I realize how essential they are and if not add more!

[forest snow]

just wish V got another year of support.

[tepid agate]

Same. I was enjoying it alot

[forest snow]

the summer update was great and the game was in a great place.

[arctic grove]

I wish 1 got at least one more year of updates

[tepid agate]

Now all weekly missions are currency for everything we own

[arctic grove]

And then EA pulls the plug when the game was actually doing great

[tepid agate]

Should have given another year of content for V while the take good care and time to launch 2042

[hearty flame]

eh they pulled the plug after it plunged off a cliff with the 2nd ttk change

[forest snow]

the cosmetics were actually great as well i put a fair bit of money into them

[rose osprey]

Who is still playing this game

[tepid agate]

Yeah we definitely didn't see a Santa clause running through the jungle in the Japan maps 😂

[forest snow]

but we did see a Japanese soldier running around in narvik ha

[tepid agate]

1.9k active users on Steam

[forest snow]

mean the luftwaffe elite you could buy wasn't far off. ha

[tepid agate]

I'll take that any day then them in Santa uniforms lol

[desert elbow]

You did see people running around while covered in burning embers tho

[forest snow]

still love the, ooooo dont worry you wont be getting them just unused assets ha

[forest snow]

true

[tepid agate]

Would have been better if they stop burning after jumping in snow or water!

[forest snow]

bugged me how historically inaccurate a lot of the cosmetics were but meh.

[desert elbow]

That’d be cool ngl, it could act as one of those negative perks in BF1 (like the one where you could never take off your gas mask) etc

Taking 1 point of damage every second unless you manage to heal

[tepid agate]

Yeah they could have implemented some things like that, then again maybe too much going on if they wanted that in 2042 with all the different gadgets

[desert elbow]

One year would’ve been great, imagine Stalingrad with battlefield’s destruction

[tepid agate]

I'm all honesty though, I'm probably looking more forward to what the next battlefield friends video brings than the game itself haha

[forest snow]

we had some of the cosmetics for the eastern front and were more in the game files. depressing

[tepid agate]

Yeah doing to old wars they have to tell the stories wil the elements of truth.

As 2042 is future they can tell what they want

[tepid agate]

I thinks that's the cool thing for bfV, create your own soldier male or female and cosmetics. 2042 forces you to play cringy characters, some having cool perks

[forest snow]

yea 2042 should of gone down the same path as V

[tepid agate]

They have a bigger vision to try and sell us and make us fall in love with these characters. That could be hell of a lot of profit from this maybe they have on the long road map

I could already imagine that everybody really fell in love with the new direction Battlefield are going. The community really bond with the characters and next thing you know, seeing them in the toy industry haha

[forest snow]

if the cosmetics are good and fit in with the world which datamined stuff points that way mostly, people will spend money and buy them looking on the digital artbook that came with the ultimate edition there some really good looking skins and concept art for the specialists.

[tepid agate]

Yeah it could be working time but just don't know how much longer they have with future competition coming out and how far behind they are

[forest snow]

Really hope they can turn it around and pull a battlefield 4 and eventually say they did it.

[hexed mango]

agreed, especially with its concept, it would fun to see it continue

[tepid agate]

I do too man, I really love battlefield. Really hope season 1 nails it

[forest snow]

Mean no other game ill play this year just long as the content keeps coming all will be good

[tepid agate]

It's like when I first began Battlefield and loaded up number 4 after a year. I just fell in love with it. Played hours upon hours upon hour. It wasn't to unlock some weapon skins of vehicle attachments or rank up. I was just so immersed in all the actual it was too fun

I want, I hope 2042 can bring that back

Now I'm at the stage like, oh it's Thursday let's find some time today or over these days to do the weekly mission

I even thought fortifications were nice in bfV they could have carried over. Building up and preparing my defense on breakthrough

[forest snow]

I am running out off things to do on the game now the weekly’s really only thing to keep looking forward to really need new content asap

[dry thorn]

Weeklys are a joke rn, they take 1/2 games to complete

[tropic geyser]

do ya think DICE will add better destructible environments to the game in the future?

[tepid agate]

Hope so

[forest snow]

Doubtful prob the next game maybe

[tepid agate]

I can't imagine what a next battlefield could be, they've gone from WW1 TO WW2 now to slightly future of today

[frank stratus]

more to the future

[tepid agate]

Hmm maybe they try to continue their story of the current war

[ebon pilot]

2242

now it's mechs, in space!

[frank stratus]

or whats better is to do the war in 2001

but fiction and real

but i feel other fps would do that the best

oops i made a mistake

[topaz field]

Huh all of a sudden my matches have been fulll with bots

[frank stratus]

okay and?

[topaz field]

before it was always players

[frank stratus]

deal with it

[gloomy pike]

anyone trying to play 18 plus

[frank stratus]

?

[topaz field]

what is 18+

[gloomy pike]

age

[frank stratus]

for gaming.

[gloomy pike]

yes

[tepid agate]

Yeah I think that would be nice too

[tepid agate]

Welcome to 2042 lol

Bots are essential for the game. Also helps players to unlock mastery skins faster.

[topaz field]

i guess so im 30 years old

[topaz field]

hmm never looked at it that way since i play sundance

[tepid agate]

Yeah you can get mastery faster for your specialist keep launching granades at them lol

[white geyser]

Use the smart grenade from sundance and it will follow its target

[tepid agate]

People will start calling it Bottlefield if it keeps up lol

[topaz field]

yeah i just noticed it but its soo cheeseee

just went 70kills and 5 deaths

kind of like playin against real people only

[tepid agate]

Yeah much more fun against real people but more of the battlefield community play the other titles rather than the newest entry

[frigid iris]

and I loved it

[foggy halo]

🤔

[grizzled whale]

LCMG is new pkp

[surreal crystal]

Drop when

[foggy halo]

🪙

[clever adder]

Is the game still populous?

[grizzled whale]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-mic-drop-wwe-raw-wrestling-gif-13776271

[surreal crystal]

Yeah

[clever adder]

Im playing from aus

[foggy halo]

search @hexed mango

[clever adder]

Nice

[grizzled whale]

the LCMG with the underbarrel shotgun is just great fun

people dont expect to get blased up close

[onyx mica]

I need a friend

[surreal crystal]

My blood is red white and blue jack … wbu ??

[onyx mica]

[grizzled whale]

hell yeah brother

[surreal crystal]

Dont be sad tats just how it works

[onyx mica]

I remember

[grizzled whale]

he rember

[onyx mica]

Angel does it again

[surreal crystal]

Amogus

[grizzled whale]

angel forgor

[high mantle]

Glad I'm not the only one who likes the masterkey on my LCMG

[surreal crystal]

How angel be looking wen a robot dog brutally murdering people

[onyx mica]

Today, today im proud

[foggy halo]

join farm guards or add me

[onyx mica]

Farm guards?

[foggy halo]

yes

[onyx mica]

Elaborate

[foggy halo]

[onyx mica]

Ooooo nice

[frigid iris]

I'm studying to get an upgraded FCC license

[tepid agate]

Anyone tried to set up a Portal server defibrillators Vs knife like in the trailer

[onyx mica]

I will add you, when i got out of bathroom, brb

[frank stratus]

mf playing legend of neverland in the washroom

[onyx mica]

[frigid iris]

for 18 hours

[frank stratus]

fr

[onyx mica]

It is on my pc lol

[frigid iris]

man took the world's longest shit

[frank stratus]

guiness world record

[onyx mica]

[frigid iris]

*Guinness

[frank stratus]

my guy ate some wack food

[frank stratus]

doesnt matter both are the same

[onyx mica]

That was hilarous i finally feel happy today

[frigid iris]

happy to help

[frank stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-gif-18109706

[onyx mica]

[frigid iris]

anyways back to studying

[onyx mica]

Noo come back

[frigid iris]

y

[frank stratus]

anyways back to dying internally

[onyx mica]

Lol

[glossy storm]

Is the hit registration bug still not fixed?

Despite a lot of updates?

[white geyser]

Just gonna keep grinding in my own custom zombie matchup in the portal, anyone can join if you want to grind to unlock whatever you want to unlocked, just come and join if you see my zombie custom matchup in the portal.

[clever adder]

How does bot work in multiplayer game

Do they fill in when queue time is long enough?

[grizzled whale]

400 hours, not a single hitreg issue, just hit shots

now im having fun as infantry again this will finally be 400 soon

[onyx mica]

i am glad

[grizzled whale]

Hi glad im angel

[onyx mica]

angel does it again?!

[grizzled whale]

no

[onyx mica]

eh what

[grizzled whale]

these kind of teams piss me off

[onyx mica]

tell me why

[grizzled whale]

barely any captures

[onyx mica]

i have time

[grizzled whale]

barely any kills

[onyx mica]

yea

let me capture your heart instead, ok that is creepy

[grizzled whale]

cringe

[onyx mica]

i agree

[lilac dust]

Any bets on when season 1 trailer will drop?

[onyx mica]

@jade lake is that u who added me on steam, i might be wrong

[uncut bay]

prob like a week before s1

[vale pier]

I honestly believe they should give the unlucky gold / ultimate edition owns year 2 season pass free (if there is a year 2 lol). No way people bought the year 1 pass expecting it to be a "fix-the-game pass". Just seems insulting to take peoples money for that.