battlefield-2042

[thick copper]

of course
they wont

have you seen the amount of ea bug threads on there that have never been acted on or resolved like
the bf1 spawn bug where you are glitched between map and fp

[fossil niche]

Guys my weekly mission is not showing in the play menu. Do I need to be at certain level to participate in weekly missions?

[uncut bay]

probably just a visual bug, your progress will still be tracked

[fossil niche]

Aah thanks @uncut bay

[lyric atlas]

smh not listening to the community. what a travesty

[tepid agate]

👀

[thick copper]

19% rating in the last 30 days on steam lol

[tepid agate]

I'm not too fused about the rating. All about the player numbers. Much more fun playing with people than bots.

[thick copper]

not much fun playing with 128 people if the game cant function properly after half a year

[tepid agate]

It still has a long way to go to get the game which should have been delivered. However, the recent update is making a small turn towards that.

[thick copper]

6 months and a small turn are not good results

[tepid agate]

I know. They lured us in for those Christmas sales. Now on them to turn it around .

[limpid pelican]

New driver update from nvidia made 2042's performance terrible, i used to get a fairly constant 60 fps and now it's constantly lower with drops down to 5.

[thick copper]

huh
as i have yet to install this update
does this mean i will now go to -5 frames?

[limpid pelican]

probably lol, I was starting to enjoy the game but now I am just tired of it, honestly don't know what I should play anymore.

[tepid agate]

You should try it. The game is better than before but far from complete.

[thick copper]

most memorable experience of this game was my tank 1v1
where no one won because both our tanks had no hit registering

[limpid pelican]

I just did, performance is now garbage, I was enjoying 4.0

[thick copper]

"far from complete"
is one of the main issues

[uncut bay]

my performance was unchanged, i only installed the new driver because the game crashed

[thick copper]

it used to be a company had to complete a game before releasing not giving the people half an Alpha for beta launch and a full alpha for release

[tepid agate]

If you compare it's current state to the launch condition, you can see this update is better than before.

[uncut bay]

the game has been improving, no doubt about it

feeling more like a finished product in terms of bugs, just content missing

[tepid agate]

Well, on top of working from home due to the challenges of COVID, Halo released in better condition than they expect. So it made bf2042 not stand out as they anticipated, so they said.

[uncut bay]

that was a funny one. Another game didn't do as bad as they expected so their unfinished product looked even worse

[thick copper]

2042 was also said to be "ahead of schedule"

[tepid agate]

Yup. I'm still waiting for them to explain exactly what that is, or for someone to try and clarify what they think they meant.

[thick copper]

i think its a dictionary definition
of rushed development

[tepid agate]

Well, they decided to push it out for those Christmas sales. They damadged the community so now it's on them to win those players back. Let's see what they will do. If all their updates are as good as the last one they will make it.

[shy latch]

Surely next updates won't be so big (in term of bug fixing, qol, etc.) like this last one.
The next big update probably will be the release of S01

[tepid agate]

Season 1 is there big chance to get many players back on board. Along with their upcoming feedback loop for how they will move forward with specialists.

[thick copper]

ok installed update nvidia
time to play this game in the Negative zone

or would i be playing it in reverse time if i have -5?

[fervent grotto]

“Communication”

[fossil niche]

@uncut bay I just checked in the Hardware Appearance after getting 20kills, the mission is not tracking. Any help is appreciated.

[fervent grotto]

Dude I don’t think this game will come back. I want it to come back too, but this game will never get the traction it was initially supposed to have. First impressions are everything and dice really messed it up big time on this one. And why did they do that? For cash

[fossil niche]

Guys I just checked in Hardware Appearance and my weekly mission is not tracking there as well. Any help is appreciated!

[uncut bay]

have you done the other requirements?

or does it track individually, i never checked it through the skin itself

[thick copper]

i was gunna type try bug channel
but i realised XD they dont have one in here

[fossil niche]

I got the 20 kills with sniper but it’s showing 0/3 challenges complete.

[uncut bay]

hm, odd. I guess report it

[fossil niche]

Okay I’ll report it.

[fervent grotto]

Also did you guys hear that people are already playing the MW2 beta?

[uncut bay]

haven't heard of that but wouldn't surprise me if a private alpha event was hosted

it would surprise me if the game was already in beta

quite early in the year still

[thick copper]

they are making a cod movie too
which im pretty sure is just gunna be like the rocks gi joe movie only no ninjas

[uncut bay]

a cod movie, what an odd decision

we have plenty of generic military action movies already, i wonder what they'll do to make it unique

[thick copper]

if i were gunna make a cod movie i would make one about kasserine pass, and link it into the game.

gives more back story to josh duhamels grouchy character

[tall finch]

please no, its gonna be cringe

anime pink neon furry waifu mg42 with pink tracers

[fervent grotto]

Well it would definitely have price, woods, soap, mason and other memorable characters

[tall finch]

with pogo stick legs while u b-hop 300meters high and take no fall damage, its gonna be disgusting

[fervent grotto]

Dude is that literally the only insult you have about cod? Every time you talk about it you make sure people know that there’s anime tracer packs

[tall finch]

along with that you have an amazing anti cheat that bans you if you kill a good player

happened to me once, also the SBMM

[fervent grotto]

And there’s literally 3 games with advanced movement. Acting like that’s the generalized game is just dumb. Also jokes on you, our anti cheat is actually awful. And I’m pretty sure that a person who is mediocre at cod won’t get banned because I still play.

So your either cheating or capping

[tall finch]

yeah but cod also feels bland, cod just has like 20 maps that are tiny and its the same 4v4 laser gun meta rushing gameplay, it gets bland fast

[uncut bay]

what i'm getting is that you don't like the game and don't want others to like it either

[fervent grotto]

Your clearly not a cod players. I can tell because your using the most popular arguments that you’ll hear if you spend like 2 minutes in the community.

[tall finch]

bf has 64 players, huge destruction and levolution and lots of variety gameplay

[tall finch]

trust me, i bought vangarbage and mw19 and i regret it 100% the only good part about both are the campaigns but the MP is just 💩

[dim blade]

MW19 was pretty good imo. The best out of the last 3

[fervent grotto]

Bigger doesn’t mean better. More players doesn’t make a game better.

[tall finch]

if only mw19 had bo2 movement

[dim blade]

cant recall much about bo2 movement, except your gun shakes while moving "SUCH TECHNOLOGY"

[uncut bay]

perfect example right here lol 128 players made literally everything worse

[tall finch]

bo2 movement was the best imo

[tall finch]

but 64 players strikes an AMAZING balance between chaos and blandness

[fervent grotto]

Mw19 was essentially my first cod (played small mounts of bo4) and it will forever be my favorite game

[fervent grotto]

Yes and 6v6 is a great balance for fast paced combat

[tall finch]

try out bf4 and play on shangai, trust me, if you like large-scale battles where you can do ANYTHING YOU WANT (you can also launch a jeep into the air if you want or put c4 on a quad and run it into a tank)

[fervent grotto]

You can dolphin dive instead of slide

[dim blade]

BF4 and 1 are my go to battlefield games. Id pick MW19 over 2042 tho

but i got both

no need to pick xd

[tall finch]

WOAH, WHAT A DECISION THAT CONTRADICTS LOGIC, MW19 IS TOTALLY WORSE THAN 2042, SUCH AN EASY DECISION MW19 SUCKS, 2042 IS BETTER

sarcasm intended

[dim blade]

easy there sparky

[thick copper]

y'all suck
air molecules

[tall finch]

sarcasm

[fervent grotto]

Dude, wow. I can plow a keep strapped with c4 into a tank. I can do that in mw ground war. Also Shanghai is a dogshit map once the tower falls. The tower is cool sure but it’s awful for the map

[dim blade]

I know that, if it wasnt i would have said something way different xd

[tall finch]

but in bf you get more customization options for vehicles and infantry-vehicle balance is much better, there is also more teamplay and its more strategic

[dim blade]

2042 has the worst teamplay effort ive seen tbh

Cause specialists want that individual spotlight

[tall finch]

when i refer to BF i refer to every bf game after 2009 except 2042

[fervent grotto]

Ok? But that’s not what cod is focused on. Bf is focused on team based strategy, (lmao sometimes) and cod is more focused on the side how individual

[dim blade]

Storming bunkers in BF1 breakthrough on Monte Grappa tho.

chefs kiss

[tall finch]

FBI OPEN UP

[uncut bay]

i agree, doing away with classes is something that harmed teamplay in favor of lone-wolfing. By far the least amount of teamplay/cooperation i've seen in the franchise

[tall finch]

i scream that in the voip channel when im busting in those bunkers on monte grappa

[fervent grotto]

Oh I’m not saying bf is a bad game at all. I really do love bf4, bf1, and BFV

[dim blade]

the only thing i like playing in 2042 are the HC servers. Where i massacare the AI and the occasional player with the DM7

just tap tap tap tap, fill my screen with skulls

[uncut bay]

i can't stand hc servers, i barely have time to react

though they are nice if you're using an underpowered weapon

[dim blade]

Yeah, thats why marksman rifles are good. You just pick off enemies from across the map

[tall finch]

me neither, hc servers in BOTH COD AND BF SUCK

[dim blade]

snipers glint, give you away, marksman rifles do not

[uncut bay]

i used hc shoothouse to get platinum on pistols in MW2019 haha

[fervent grotto]

Every time I hop on portal I can’t find anything but zombies, hardcore realism, or games with only 2042 guns. I just want to play like BC2 vs bf3 or something

[dim blade]

HC shoothouse/shipment was the prime way to lvl up weapons before they nerfed the XP

[fervent grotto]

Eh hardcore in cod is actually pretty great. Camo grinding and everything

[tall finch]

the already ultra-fast ttk of cod is made EVEN ULTRA-FASTER MEGA FAST WITH HARDCORE

[uncut bay]

honestly towards the end of my time playing it that was the only playlist i went into. Shoot the ship was really fun

[fervent grotto]

Depends on what game your playing. Mw has a fast ttk, but B04 doesn’t.

[tall finch]

all black ops before mw19 had amazing ttk

[dim blade]

tbh battlefield and cod ttk do not feel THAT different.

depends on the game tho since BFV ttk is also different than the previous games

[fervent grotto]

Yea they really don’t. Cod and battlefield are really similar at base, but they extend out in different ways

[tall finch]

i'd say bo2 infantry gameplay + bf4 vehicle gameplay and maps + bf4 player counts would be AMAZING

[fervent grotto]

“Bo2 infantry gameplay” as if there is anything but that in cod besides the odd scorestreak

[tall finch]

by that i mean BO2 ttk and movement

[uncut bay]

killstreak gameplay lol

[fervent grotto]

“In battlefield we don’t need no fancy shmanshy scorestreaks because we can just fly helicopters and planes without needing to be good”

Does anyone even care about feeds or montages anymore? I feel bad for anyone who makes those. No one wants to watch people quickscope with a generic rap song playing over it anymore lmao

[uncut bay]

yeah occasionally i'll see some hyper-edited cod montage and reminisce about the old days

though i do still get excited if i get a feed

[arctic grove]

🚨🚨🚨 New Leak https://twitter.com/temporyal/status/1519285230938382336?s=21&t=jvFjY3B3benHPhcRPS73yA

[uncut bay]

wow, what an interesting vector skin... black

the headgear reminds me of BF4 assault, so C- on creativity

[arctic grove]

The camo kind of looks like the inside building of kaleidoscope how it’s purple black pink but I can’t tell same as the vehicle & helicopter camo

[arctic grove]

Yeah I agree

[compact sleet]

Except the artillery call down and stuff from bfv would be interesting if implemented into 2042

[fervent grotto]

Yea it would give a little more teamwork too

[haughty raft]

They’re reaching so hard to cater to long time fans

[compact sleet]

it would help in the circumstances where there is 40+ people on the objectives

[hardy leaf]

is steam playerbase still less than 1000 for this game?

[haughty raft]

At the time of you asking it is currently around 2.4k (on steam)

[grizzled whale]

on steam

[fervent grotto]

I never have that happen because I’m on Xbox 1 lmao

[fervent grotto]

Yea that’s what he asked

[hardy leaf]

still quite low but better than before i guess

[grizzled whale]

ah

[uncut bay]

is the steam (steam) playerbase (on steam) still less than 1000 (for steam)

[grizzled whale]

@hardy leaf it peaked at ~4500 this weekend

[haughty raft]

Still depressingly low :/

[grizzled whale]

i only need 128 players to fill a lobby

[fervent grotto]

I need 64

[hardy leaf]

i think each platform is having playerbase similar to as of steam, more or less

[uncut bay]

that's a fair assumption. Regardless, pretty low numbers for a battlefield game 6 months after release

[fervent grotto]

It’s real sad

[hardy leaf]

its pretty low numbers for any multiplayer game for that matter

not just battlefield

[turbid apex]

when you flop a game this hard people will obviously not play again

[haughty raft]

lol BFV has 14k rn

[fervent grotto]

That’s what I think. I don’t think any amount of updates will save this game and make it popular

[turbid apex]

it'd just have to be the best patch EA has ever released

[uncut bay]

the damage has already been done i'd say, numbers will never go back to what would be expected

[turbid apex]

like warzone's release

[turbid apex]

nah there definitely is hope like people want the game to be good. it has insane potential, and the devs need to tap into that and the community heavily for that to ever happen

[hardy leaf]

i think the only way this game can have atleast half a million active online players( which imo is the standard for a mp only game to be called a success) is if they really drop something innovative, fun, smooth which i dont really expect for a while

[fervent grotto]

Plus with MW2 and warzone 2 coming those will steal players away easily

[turbid apex]

nah it's already got it's core fanbase lol

[haughty raft]

Imagine all of the time and resources that could’ve gone into the core of the game if they hadn’t pulled another flop game mode with hazard zone

[hardy leaf]

ofcourse, the warzone 2 , being free to play or modern warfare 2 will be the instant choice over bf2042

[turbid apex]

nah it could've worked with hazard zone they just fucked it completely

[fervent grotto]

Yeah it’s core fanbase of 1000 players. It will never achieve over 100,000

[turbid apex]

this is just cap

[fervent grotto]

It’s my opinion. I doubt 2042 will ever get over 100,000 players. We will have to see

[hardy leaf]

hazard zone eww , why someone even mention it , its a giant failure

[turbid apex]

i agree on the 100k mark but battlefield has a deep fanbase, that is currently very disappointed with this shitheap they left us lol

[haughty raft]

That’s what chasing trends gets you

[turbid apex]

yeah they fumbled the bag hard they should either remove it or completely rework it

[hardy leaf]

yeah unless they make an actually good completely new game and integrate bf2042 with it

[turbid apex]

or go free to play LMFAO

[fervent grotto]

Also I forgot about overwatch 2. That will be special for a bit but I highly doubt it’ll work in the long run

[turbid apex]

OW2 is not gonna be shit fuck blizzard

[fervent grotto]

They would make so many players pissed they would lose more than they’d gain

[uncut bay]

overwatch 2 is a joke to me, still can't believe it's a thing

[turbid apex]

true

[dim blade]

Probably if it was f2p

[haughty raft]

I want to go sit down and play 2042 but on the other hand I really don’t want to fucking do that. Why is enjoying this game so painful

[dim blade]

only chance ithink

[hardy leaf]

even free2play wont resurrect this game really and it would be a straight up insult to those who bought it for full price lmao

[fervent grotto]

I don’t even think that would work because all the paying layers would be pissed and not play

[turbid apex]

i mean you can lol like you have the game and it is widely agreed that the game is playable

[uncut bay]

f2p will probably only harm the game in the long run

[turbid apex]

very playable at that

[dim blade]

Maybe only one portion of it F2P, Probably All out Warfare to fill replace the ape brained AI

[arctic grove]

People be asking for better maps which is what they’re doing so we’ll wait and see till season 1

[turbid apex]

that'd work

[fervent grotto]

That’s the main mode. People would still be pissed

[uncut bay]

i could see them making HZ f2p since it's so immensely dead

[turbid apex]

or portal. if portal was free omfg mannn

[dim blade]

Portal then? the editor is free to use anyawy

[turbid apex]

yup

[fervent grotto]

Yea that could work

[hardy leaf]

making bf2042 free2play then including pay2win microtransactions is the perfect recipe for putting the final giant nail in the coffin

[uncut bay]

^

[haughty raft]

I think the problem with F2P is that games that are made with that model in mind are usually better off than a fully priced AAA title eventually being whittled down to F2P. It’s a desperation move and doesn’t look great

[turbid apex]

nah they should just keep it like any other fuckin live service. cosmetic battle pass and xp tokens

[dim blade]

I mean there is a little bit coffin left in the massive nail pile already but i guess so yeah

[turbid apex]

with a free gun drop every season like that is the formula for live service in fps games

[fervent grotto]

What do xp tokens have to do with this? BF4 has xp tokens

[turbid apex]

yeah but bf4 was released 9 years ago

[haughty raft]

I know Premium got a lot of shit but goddamn I’d rather go back to the age before battle passes at least they gave us nice content

[hardy leaf]

i think people wont buy the next battlefield right away, thats the damage DICE & EA have done to themselves

[fervent grotto]

Do you just not like xp tokens or something?

[dim blade]

Portal f2p could actually be the way to go since it has the one thing that BF:Heroes of BF:P4F never really had. Deep server customization

[turbid apex]

no bruh i'm saying it's part of the live service model it's generally correlated with battle passes in any game lol

so why not include it in a battle pass with a f2p portal

[dim blade]

But probably only full game owners can host

[turbid apex]

that'd be fine tbh

[fervent grotto]

But it won’t ever happen

[hardy leaf]

sometimes it appears to me that EA execs who make these big decisions dont have a clue about what fans want and what a good game really is

[turbid apex]

that's exactly what it is lmfao

[fervent grotto]

EA would never do that

[dim blade]

Why not exactly? They have F2P games

[turbid apex]

in reality that is the right thing to do lol like they are gonna end up like Ubisoft and sell

[fervent grotto]

Hey but DICE still has creative liberty. Don’t let them off the hook.

[dim blade]

Or you mean making something from a paid game free

[turbid apex]

this exactly

[fervent grotto]

This

[hardy leaf]

Ubisoft is selling themselves?

[turbid apex]

yes they are up for sale atm

[fervent grotto]

Elon should buy them.

[hardy leaf]

is it really confirmed because in their recent financial call they denied these rumours

[haughty raft]

Probably hoping to get scooped up by Microsoft

[turbid apex]

elon doesn't know shit about video games

[fervent grotto]

Yea but it would be funny

[dim blade]

Yeah well, they could still make battle pass money. If f2p portal was a seperate game that does connect with BF2042 full game portal but is lighter in size and you cant host games.

[fervent grotto]

It’s also called a joke. Not being truthful

[hardy leaf]

Microsoft probably will buy it, that studio suits their digestable games with subscription model

[turbid apex]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-22/assassin-s-creed-publisher-ubisoft-said-to-draw-buyout-interest?sref=P6Q0mxvj

[fervent grotto]

I can’t wait for activision games to come to game pass

[turbid apex]

no shot cod games become free

[dim blade]

my discord free game pass will expire before that 😦

[turbid apex]

they're still fucking 60 dollars on steam

[fervent grotto]

Yea, Microsoft already confirmed it

[haughty raft]

Literally what I was about to say

[dim blade]

the discord free game pass is the reason i actually can play BF2042, i never bought the game lol

[turbid apex]

bro that is such a dick slap to steam users 😭

[dim blade]

Im using the 10H trial

[turbid apex]

def don't waste your money right now

[haughty raft]

Isn’t it 90% off?

[dim blade]

for PC too?

[fervent grotto]

Naw rip PlayStation players. They have nothing

[turbid apex]

nah 2042 is 60 rn

[fervent grotto]

Game pass is at least on pc

[haughty raft]

I thought it was on sale at one point

[turbid apex]

playstation has it's own gp tho

[haughty raft]

Not quite yet

[fervent grotto]

No it doesn’t.

[turbid apex]

yes they do they just released it i thought

[fervent grotto]

Nope

[haughty raft]

June

[turbid apex]

https://blog.playstation.com/2022/03/29/all-new-playstation-plus-launches-in-june-with-700-games-and-more-value-than-ever/

still that's huge june is basically a month away

[haughty raft]

I have a ps5 so I’m interested in just worried that it’s going to be game streaming rather than like game pass

[fervent grotto]

Eh it won’t be as popular as gamepass. Gamepass has been around longer and has so many extra features too

[limpid kindle]

Just got kicked for inactivity in the waiting phase LMAO

[haughty raft]

That’s unfortunate

[limpid kindle]

How does that even work? like of course i'm inactive i literally can't be active

[turbid apex]

dice moment

[arctic grove]

eren neager

[edgy oriole]

[hardy leaf]

They will fix it after working hard day and night for 6 months in the next update

[waxen turret]

when is the next update coming?

[limpid kindle]

Probably June

[main hearth]

Ive heard 'leaks' that ea and dice are moving on to a new battlefield game, i dont believe its true but id like to ask anyway

[limpid kindle]

A dev has tweeted that "most of the team was still working on 2042" but knowing EA it's probably a lie

[main hearth]

True, 2042 holds alot of potential, dont know why it would be given up

[cedar turtle]

Someone in a lobby yesterday called me shit tier, and I took that personally.

[uncut bay]

less "moving on" and more "beginning pre-production like usual". It's nothing new

if true, ofc

[cedar turtle]

Were they wrong? Probably not.

[main hearth]

I just got a code for 2042, my pc is broke tho

[cedar turtle]

What's broken?

[main hearth]

smotherboard and hdd

ive been playing bf4 and bf1 on my xbox tho

rank 50 on 1 and rank 61 on 4

[uncut bay]

i miss the good old days of bf1

getting home and hopping on the beta with friends

i ended up getting to level 40-something, i remember levelling was really fast

[main hearth]

Truee, i remember that train map being cramped in this small room with like 15 players

[slate meadow]

Sigh I've just had my first direct ex error gpu removed during game apparently 😂

[dim blade]

not an error, obviously ghosts unmounted your gpu

[slate meadow]

Funny though because my cpu has no onboard graphics so how would I be able to read the error if I had no gpu 😂

[uncut bay]

ghost gpu mounted by ghosts

[upbeat sand]

No pc its all a lie

[hard plume]

The pc was always a lie

[cedar turtle]

[upbeat sand]

That other lies have i been told by the council

[lyric atlas]

that just means that your computer lost access to the display drivers...i think

aka, your display drivers crashed

try underclocking your gpu. if that doesnt help...god help you

[dim blade]

"If troubleshooting fails, attend a sermon at your local church"

[ripe hedge]

Hey hey people

[full finch]

👋

Literally 0 zero response. Okay we'll just go with Plan B.

[ripe hedge]

😄

[dim blade]

hi hey sorry hello

i sometimes actually gotta work @ work

So i can totally miss 2 EA representatives in discord

[analog fractal]

Hiya lads

[full finch]

Alex has a question. Maybe he's trying to formulate it now.

[cedar turtle]

We're here when you're ready Alex.

[fierce gull]

hi

[ripe hedge]

Ok so

You have a sick Assault Rifle... you press the trigger down and empty the mag. You dont release the trigger. What happens:

A) Reloading begins automatically.
B) Reload is held off until you release the trigger.

[fierce gull]

A

[dim blade]

As fun as it would be to hear the constant CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK

I would have to say A

[analog fractal]

B

[fallen leaf]

bro moment

[analog fractal]

Would be a nice option setting to have it automatically reload tho

[dim blade]

toggleable setting in portal?

[edgy oriole]

A for gameplay
B for the "oh shit" moments.
ill go with A tho.

[dim blade]

yeah i just wanted to say something like that

[fierce gull]

Would be neat

[subtle iron]

B would be fun at first then frustrating so A

[analog fractal]

I think it's important to have reload as an actual action the player has to do and has control over is all

[full finch]

I know I said that I didn't mind in slack, but thinking about it, it has to be A. Anytime I would die because it didn't reload just because I didn't let go of the button would be annoying. It would delay the reload and probably just leave me vulnerable.

[dim blade]

This setting would barely affect me anyway, i have a condition known as reload-after-every-kill-vitus

[celest sinew]

[fierce gull]

Also suppressor for the NTW

[celest sinew]

I like how you think

[solid imp]

Buuuut... folks do sometimes complain about things that pull them out of "immersion" and hearing that click click click could be a really great way to include something to that effect

I think I would actually vote B as much as I would prefer A simply for that reason

[analog fractal]

Having those moments where you forgot to reload is important imo or those seconds when you be like "oh shit, need to reload" etc

Otherwise reloading when shooting is just a cooldown

[solid imp]

I agree personally with @dim blade that I also reload way way too often to the point it causes issues more than running out of bullets usually does. If the choice is between auto-reload or nothing and no feedback like the clicking, then I would go with A. But if some feedback like clicking is included then B.

[analog fractal]

BF is supposed to be a bit of a war sim, so having automatic reloads goes against it imo

[uncut bay]

battlefield is very far from a war sim, i think an automatic reload is fine

[analog fractal]

The only reason it should be implemented is if it's an accessibility option

Not a standard design implementation for everyone

[solid imp]

yeah but think about the fact they already included the little detail that your soldier keeps the magazine if there are still rounds in it. Introducing a click and no auto-reload keeps with that neat little gem of a detail

[dim blade]

If the clicking was a toggleable option in Portal or something it could be cool for added realism

"No auto reload" checkmark or something

[crisp junco]

Yeah having it as a togallable option is best

[uncut bay]

well, a "click" at all is quite stupid and probably not worth the time to implement imo

[analog fractal]

Sure, but it doesn't help when they keep simplyfing shooting mechanics and getting rid of complexity

[uncut bay]

i don't think an automatic reload when you run out of ammo will cause the downfall of the franchise

[analog fractal]

Never said it was lol

[uncut bay]

seems like a non issue

[solid imp]

Yeah but folks also accuse the game of having too little detail, immersion, complexity, etc... so having a chance to add some of it in? Seems like a win to me?

[uncut bay]

but a click isn't realistic and would probably always go unnoticed under the heat of battle

[analog fractal]

Eh, just because it isn't an issue doesn't mean it should be implemented for everyone by default.

[uncut bay]

if anything it'd annoy the immersion people more

[solid imp]

but maybe the revolver could click at least then 🙂

[uncut bay]

i mean regardless of how it's implemented, whether it's default or not, i don't find that there's a reason not to add it if it's a yes/no thing

[analog fractal]

Anyway, bring back BFV movement and the fortification system, miss it

[uncut bay]

yeah that'd be a nice touch

[ripe hedge]

i work on weapons though 😄

[uncut bay]

bring it back

[analog fractal]

Bring me a FAMAS then

[edgy oriole]

ac-42 = famas

[solar nymph]

heard that there may be a blizzard coming to breakway, i think that would be awesome

[analog fractal]

Doesn't even have full auto mode 😔

[crisp junco]

Honestly the burst on the famas is superior simply for the sound

[uncut bay]

that'd be cool, like the sandstorm on hourglass that makes the map bearable for a few minutes

[solar nymph]

the maps have so much opportunity for levolution events. skyscrapers falling, oil rigs exploding.

[analog fractal]

lets not even get into leveloutions

but tbf, theyve always been overrated

regular destruction of buildings and the like is more important

[solar nymph]

yeah

but how cool would it be to be fighting and have a skyscraper topple over on top of you?

[analog fractal]

but regular destruction is sorely lacking in BF 2042 too

[solar nymph]

yeah true

[analog fractal]

The portal maps have better destruction, unironically

[solar nymph]

the concept art looked so cool aswell

[dim blade]

UCAV, im sure everyone loved it and absolutely no one hated it

[analog fractal]

Arica Harbour has like a ton of buildings that can all be leveled

meanwhile BF2042 have like none and they can't be brought down

[drowsy sapphire]

AC-130

[hard plume]

Bah, thats your excuse for everything in life

[solid imp]

the oil drums explode at least, but yea.. one of the best moments is when the orbital rocket explodes and it becomes a hellscape with loads of burning wreckage

[dim blade]

honestly could be very cool but who has the patience as a pilot to just hover around the map at very high altidude

[karmic cobalt]

Watch me 💪

[drowsy sapphire]

An AI… like battlefield 4

[solid imp]

same amazing few who were commander.. and let's get real no one could fly for very long in the ac-130 because it ALWAYS got shot down in under 10 seconds

Did you ever see an ac-130 not get attacked promptly by jets

[dim blade]

I guess but somethings makes me think it would be a player should they implement it

[karmic cobalt]

It’d be kinda cool to solo an ac-130 you can fly though ngl

[drowsy sapphire]

And whoever stays in a AC-130 hovering at its right altitude or else it gets shot down, will be getting XP for every 2 minutes they fly it

[solar nymph]

also would love a bomber aircraft, sometimes you just want to sweep an objective with bombs. Maybe a b2 stealth?

[ripe hedge]

Absolutely

[dim blade]

Disable self inflicted damage and make shooting an RPG at the ground give you such radial force that you can rocketjump

Then you rocketjump on top of a jet, kill the pilot, hijack the jet and rendezook another jet

[drowsy sapphire]

This ain’t call of duty

[dim blade]

Yes, it isnt. Cause you cant do that there.

I was thinking Quake or Team Fortess 2 XD

[solid imp]

mackay grappling a jet is pretty fun but sadly it's broken legs every time lol

[dim blade]

then again if Sundance could rocketjump she would literally just be a bird

[drowsy sapphire]

I… the WarZone April fools

And I’m talking about the realism of call of duty, (still love modern warfare ❤️)

[dim blade]

i was never aware, damn.

[analog fractal]

On the subject of rocket jumping, I'm still mad you can't launch a friendly jeep in the air with c5/dynamite like in the BF2042 Portal trailer

[drowsy sapphire]

Vanguard is

[drowsy sapphire]

ALEXXX

[analog fractal]

They added that in trailer without actually making sure it works in the game

[drowsy sapphire]

Five seven…. Tar-21…

[dim blade]

takedown animations also, they are never as clean as showed in the trailer

[drowsy sapphire]

You could fly in the sky shooting at the ground with a panzerfaust

[uncut bay]

takedown animations are goofy, so dumb how you help the enemy up and then kill them

[drowsy sapphire]

They also did it on tax day I think

[drowsy sapphire]

💀

[analog fractal]

Well, takedown anims are in the game and works. Launching jeeps with c5 was shown and can't be replicated @dim blade

[dim blade]

Damn, shame i missed it.

sounds really cool

[drowsy sapphire]

Cause Vanguard of sh*t is… GOOFYIE

[uncut bay]

the one where you sweep their legs and stab them on the ground, like wtf

[drowsy sapphire]

GOOFY

[hard plume]

It’s called being polite

[drowsy sapphire]

GOOFIE

[uncut bay]

yeah bro dw let me pick you up and then kick your legs out to stab you

[dim blade]

i never go for a takedown animation cause i got PTSD the last time i did it.

The enemy turned invisible and eventually killed me

[analog fractal]

Everything about the melee takedowns is a downgrade compared to BFV

BF1/V has great first person takedowns with lots of variety

[drowsy sapphire]

It’s ok, my friends grandpa told me a story where he picked a German up and then gave him a cookie then had a cup of tea then killed him after the enemy killed his squad in WW2

[dim blade]

BF4 where you could counter takedowns if they attacked you from front

[drowsy sapphire]

REALISM-=Call of Duty provides ❌

[solid imp]

well they didn't respond when I whacked them with a knife two times so I had to wake 'em up to kill them

[uncut bay]

it's a shame, they clearly tried to copy the trend of third person takedowns so they could sell more mtx, but butchered it entirely. MW2019's takedowns were actually well thought-out and entertaining. Not to mention they had unique animations for what stance the enemy was in

[crisp junco]

I loved bonking camping snipers with the club

[drowsy sapphire]

That’s always a great thing

[analog fractal]

Now, you'll pick up a guy who's prone to his feet just kick them down and stab them

[dim blade]

Yeah, MW19 ones. The ones added after that were also a little scuffed. Like dropping OOB because your character did an animation which caused him to run over the edge

[analog fractal]

It's nonsencial

[drowsy sapphire]

Yea, first person take downs were nice

[analog fractal]

Loved the first person takedown when you kick the player in the face when they're prone

Very smooth transition and looked cool as shit

[drowsy sapphire]

Yep

[analog fractal]

Also, a very fitting takedown for camping snipers

[velvet sand]

welp, guess CM's won't ever talk about anything for the future of the game per the official forums.

[hexed mango]

twitter

just stalk T0TALfps

[ripe hedge]

WHAT

[edgy oriole]

total is the only cm ive seen talk on twitter (bc thats what people share i havent looked for anyone on twitter bc i hate it)

[hexed mango]

hi alex

[ripe hedge]

[edgy oriole]

scroll up he asked a question earlier

[ripe hedge]

Reposting because theres more people online now:

You have a sick Assault Rifle... you press the trigger down and empty the mag. You dont release the trigger. What happens:

A) Reloading begins automatically.
B) Reload is held off until you release the trigger.

[full finch]

maybe just make a strawpoll

[shy latch]

A

[drowsy sapphire]

A

[drowsy sapphire]

FIVE SEVEN TAR 21

[hexed mango]

A just for clarity and lack of confusion

B sounds funny though ;)

also alex i was the guy who mentioned the legendary skin scope bug :)

[edgy oriole]

strawpoll in pins or corefeedback

[shy latch]

even tho B is more realistic, but BF is still an arcade shooter game; and it's ok to be like this

[hexed mango]

Alex > all

[drowsy sapphire]

[fossil niche]

Guys is it possible to do the weekly challenges in co-op?

[shy latch]

I think it's restricted to multiplayer only, not sure tho

[fossil niche]

👍🏻

[shy latch]

Alex, I just noticed that using the standard issue/extended mag on the SWS-10, the rate of fire indicates -145

[radiant prism]

Alex, what do you think the possibility of more weapons in game that don’t really have real-world counterparts like the AC-42 (unless I’m missing something lol). Would be cool to see you guys stretch your legs a little bit and bring some interesting original concepts to the game

[onyx plover]

Day 2 of reminding myself i'm not playing COD and have ot actually aim and control recoil

[edgy oriole]

i see they are hearing that our teammates aren't doing obj and they trying to help out the problem

[onyx plover]

What are the best way to set the colors for easier visibility?

[edgy oriole]

Settings > accessibility > general > colorblind
i personally have enemy as bright green and teammates dark purple.

[uncut bay]

in the colorblind thing set it to custom ^

i use a darker red and darker blue, though if find that if the blue is too dark it can worsen visibility

[onyx plover]

Also is there an FPS?

[dim blade]

I could never work with that, my brain always makes the connection GREEN = GOOD. RED = BAD

[uncut bay]

?

[edgy oriole]

dont tell anyone but green is the easiest color to spot *imo

[fervent grotto]

It’s facts. Red is bad green is good

You cut the red wire, you don’t like getting stuck at the red stoplight, red is enemy. Red is bad

[uncut bay]

i wish we could customise sight colors, i've missed many shots because the light blue reticle blended in with snow

[fervent grotto]

Red and black really are the negatively associated colors

[drowsy sapphire]

Red is blood… it’s bad because I don’t think it’s good if you see a red pool slowly growing in your white shirt…

[fervent grotto]

They should make all our warfare like grind in cod but instead of kills it’s touching the objective. You have a timer of like, 2 minutes, and if you don’t touch an objective within that time then you die (unless you’ve been in a vehicle for more then 30seconds) or maybe just make an ltm like this

[grizzled whale]

i read skirt and that really changes the whole sentence

[uncut bay]

that would be fucking sick

i really do want to see them experiment more with gamemodes in portal, some of them have been super fun

[fervent grotto]

Wonder if I could make that in Portal.

But I’m not sure if that’s possible

[edgy oriole]

They need to bring back frontline

[fervent grotto]

Is there a way to make the timer is what I’m wondering

[arctic grove]

Is there any news on content soon

[edgy oriole]

summer

[uncut bay]

not news, but yeah summer is when S1 is expected

[fervent grotto]

Also I need to make the timer refresh when you touch an objective

[heavy kraken]

m44, best sniper

[hardy leaf]

they said early summer

[uncut bay]

yes, which is in summer

[hardy leaf]

and i think i am 3 weeks past early summer considering the heat

[uncut bay]

it's starting to get hot over here, not excited about it

[fervent grotto]

It’s still cold here and I hate it. I just wanna wear shorts

[quiet shell]

Hm, I'm conflicted on this.
The click of death is funny when it happens to an enemy or teammate. Not so much when it happens to you but then again you get a very obvious shot counter that lets you keep track of your ammunition so if you fail to reload after emptying a mag its really your fault. Games like squad, insurgency, and Arma do B. But they're also more hardcore games and I'm not sure what angle you're wanting.

[little dust]

A

[onyx plover]

Dude took a rocket to he face then turns around and one taps me....... game?

[heavy kraken]

lol

carl gustav is best weapon

[uncut bay]

welcome to battlefield hitreg

[heavy kraken]

bf2042 on xbox one s still feels wonky lol

[onyx plover]

34 fucking revives... pretty sure I was the only medic on my entire team

[grizzled whale]

old gen console

[heavy kraken]

don't be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes

[velvet sand]

What a time to be alive!

[heavy kraken]

what a time to be alive ;0

[velvet sand]

(they can't remove/update those lines quickly enough)

[heavy kraken]

you know what dice should do

the 10 specialists that already exists should be on the u.s. faction

and then a brand new 10 specialists for russia

[uncut bay]

do you want the updates to be delayed even further?

[velvet sand]

lolplsno, also do you think DICE could make 10 specialists given the current pace of work?...

[heavy kraken]

idek

but its better than fighting your own self

[velvet sand]

People don't like specialists, even if they're here to stay. I just hope they massively tone down their abilities since they're currently all busted as hell and don't fit with BF.

[native cape]

can a brother get season 1

[velvet sand]

"early summer" assuming it's not delayed again

[native cape]

Yikes! xD

[heavy kraken]

lol

[native cape]

game still dosent even feel good

but i would pay for a hardline 2

yeah EDGE, could put operators/ specalist into classes like, 3 for each

[heavy kraken]

imagine they make the rpg broken again

[thick copper]

just give us nuke
so we can quickly end the games

[heavy kraken]

tactical nuke, incoming

[grizzled whale]

Angel Blew up malaysia again

[dim blade]

goddamn it angel

[jaunty parcel]

mid june

(unofficially )

[grizzled whale]

Early summer*

[velvet sand]

"Early" being operative in that DICE seems to have a different definition, hence why the "Early April" patch dropped in "mid-late April" : P

[grizzled whale]

yes

[arctic grove]

Mid June-Early August

Around there. Season has to be gud or else 2042 is a bust.

[uncut bay]

yeah i'm expecting the best damn season ever made with the amount of time it's taken to deliver

[thick copper]

how have they not released s1 yet?

[uncut bay]

prioritising fixing the game

[grizzled whale]

because the game isnt ready for it

[thick copper]

note to ea
complete game before release
then you can release seasons earlier

[uncut bay]

if they released s1 in this state people would complain about how they should've fixed it first, either way fixing then adding is always how it should go

[grizzled whale]

Note to EA, when your devs ask for more time because they say the game isnt ready, GIVE THEM MORE TIME

[heavy kraken]

yes

[uncut bay]

note to dice, fix up

[velvet sand]

Sometimes it works. Sometimes devs need more direction. See BioWare screwing about with Anthem for 5+ years making no progress before discovering that they were actually going to build a looter-shooter in the E3 video "demo" : 3

[tiny imp]

only one map per season?

[thick copper]

note to dice
bring back the old dice

[uncut bay]

two if we're lucky

[velvet sand]

One map/specialist confirmed, plus "more guns" and other content, don't think they've gotten any more specific than that at this point.

[arctic grove]

[tiny imp]

Is really going to be interest what they have for us in season 1. It better be something good or goodbye

[thick copper]

how many gunna are going to be on the store though?

[grizzled whale]

probably 782

[uncut bay]

i still find it amusing that the store was the only thing working flawlessly

granted it's a simple store with one item, but still

[velvet sand]

None. Content is all free, store is for boosts and cosmetic stuff.

[velvet sand]

In 2042? It...doesn't even exist in 2042 >.>

[uncut bay]

ya it does, it's on the top to the right

you can buy the year 1 pass

[onyx plover]

The VCAR is a monster....

[frosty mural]

Reload is held until you release the trigger.

[velvet sand]

Oh yeah, but it's not hard to get a "store" with a single item available working. I thought you mean like...actually with things to sell beyond just S1 pass.

[frosty mural]

I've loved the vcar, even when SVK was OP, it was the best marksman rifle to use in my opinon. hit hard

[grizzled whale]

if you have the season pass

[onyx plover]

What is it with me shooting people then them just 180 and kill me ... like my ttk is 20 seconds theirs is .20

[viscid bone]

A ALEX, A. CHOOSE A.

[velvet sand]

No, all content is free. The things you actually play are free.

[grizzled whale]

who says that

[viscid bone]

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-winfrey-you-get-an-a-gif-17865582

[grizzled whale]

the maps are free, but the specialists arent

[velvet sand]

Unless something changed, they are. Maps and modes and specialists are all free content.

[arctic grove]

bruh we are gonna talk about the EA play 10 hour trial still?

[grizzled whale]

specialists are part of the season pass, they have been from the start

[arctic grove]

Are you gonna fix this?

[grizzled whale]

whats wrong with it

[uncut bay]

the specialists are in the season pass AND will be able to be earned for free. That's been the entire deal from the very beginning

[grizzled whale]

where did you get that

[uncut bay]

they'll probably do a free/premium battlepass thing like all other games

[clear quail]

ye im pretty sure the specialist could be free aswell, just more grindy

[uncut bay]

from dice, i'll look for where they said it

[radiant prism]

All gameplay content is going to be in the free pass, the paid pass is going to be paid. That's been their statement from the beginning

[arctic grove]

[uncut bay]

but free specialists/weapons were a huge selling point for the game

[grizzled whale]

afaik, specialist are gonna be paid

[uncut bay]

if they go back on their word i can't imagine the amount of backlash they'll face

[grizzled whale]

why include them in the year one pass description

[radiant prism]

Why would they be paid though? That's in-game content, the path they're going down has been specifically to avoid that sort of thing

[grizzled whale]

if they are gonna be free

[uncut bay]

because they'll probably be unlocked immediately with the paid battlepass

[grizzled whale]

because its literally part of the paid pass

[velvet sand]

You seem to have the right of it that they're actually paid but...man that's confusing with how DICE has talked about content releases for the game so far.

[grizzled whale]

if anyone can link where they say specialist will be free that be nice

[radiant prism]

I seriously doubt they're gonna be paid for, I think its more likely to be just wonky formatting.

[clear quail]

Angel has asked for something again

[radiant prism]

Especially when there's a potential class system rework on the horizon

[grizzled whale]

or maybe @viscid bone can tell us since hes here anyway 🥺

[uncut bay]

looking for it, but i remember it being explicitly said that only cosmetics will be paid

[radiant prism]

@viscid bone 👀

where u goin cutie

[edgy oriole]

i think thats something they cant disclose that atm.

[grizzled whale]

which is already disproven with the leaked xp boosters

[grizzled whale]

Well it seems to be public knowledge

[velvet sand]

XP boosts were expectd, they've been in the past few BF games.

[uncut bay]

cosmetics, xp boosters, whatever. You get the idea, weapons, maps and specialists, which are actual content, will be free

[grizzled whale]

disagree until sourced

[uncut bay]

still looking

[grizzled whale]

t0tal been typing for a bit now so i guess we will get the answer to our debackle

[edgy oriole]

[hard plume]

Omg i hope it’s a long angry rant about how much the community sucks. Haven’t read one of those since ark survival evolved

[viscid bone]

Sorry I fell asleep on the keyboard.

[uncut bay]

We’ll be evolving our world and expanding on the fiction through Seasons, each one lasting for about three months. Every Season will come with a new free and paid-for Battle Pass, delivering new content to chase after.

In our first year of live service, we will deliver four Seasons, with four Battle Passes, four new Specialists, along with more fresh content.

not the quote itself, but this does confirm that there will be a free and paid battlepass, as has become standard. Still looking for where they said specialists would be free

[fringe bobcat]

Big respect for devs getting involved in the chat 💬 👏🏻

[viscid bone]

We have stated that there is a free tier and a paid-for tier when it comes to the Battle Pass system, and we've also stated that anything that would impact your gameplay experience; IE: a Specialist - would be within the free tier. All players will be able to earn that type of content.

You're talking about Specialists being listed within the Year 1 pass - this means you'd be able to start playing with them from the get go, rather than having to earn them via the free tier.

We are not going to lock anything that is meaningful, anything that you'd like to play with, hardware wise - behind a paywall. It's our focus that things remain fair and obtainable.

[grizzled whale]

He was actually typing out the answer but he got a dm from Andrew Wilson saying he better stop typing

[uncut bay]

there we go

thanks total

[grizzled whale]

thanks, clears things up

Now on that note, the description for the Y1 pass is extremely misleading

[hard plume]

So basically like r6 siege

[grizzled whale]

makes it seem like you only get the specialist from the pass
It should say something like: "immediate access to a new specialist at the start of each season"

[little dust]

does the season pass include the premium track?

[viscid bone]

Yes, meaning there'd be more to work towards. We'll share more details on what you can expect in the future, as we move closer to Season 1 🙂

[radiant prism]

Thanks total!!

[viscid bone]

Essentially yes, the lovely Liana wrote a good bit about it all here; https://www.gameinformer.com/e3-2021/2021/06/09/battlefield-2042-battle-pass-explained-free-vs-premium

[hard plume]

Oh neat

[frosty mural]

This is why i've always loved BF content vs COD content, you've always made weapons, vehicles free to all and skins were paid for

CoD just made $$ off of people buying weapons because there was a way to surpass unlocking it for free a few tiers later

[hard plume]

These specialist better be quite unique to break my “angel only” play style

[uncut bay]

anything you can say on the duration of battle passes? If a season ends, will its battle pass still be available?

[cunning plume]

And battlefield made $$ for releasing an unfinished game

[subtle iron]

[radiant prism]

Angel is boring lol, I don't get how people can main him

[arctic grove]

A

[grizzled whale]

because he has the best voicelines

[uncut bay]

i hate angel because armor plates

[quiet ridge]

A

[grizzled whale]

Mackay is best specialist gameplay wise

[hard plume]

Cause of armor plates

Also i like to revive people

[frosty mural]

Insert Irish here

[radiant prism]

Mackay is fuckin FUN I finally got him to T1 recently

[quiet shell]

When will we get more cosmetics that isnt goofy or a recolor of the base skin?

[onyx plover]

lawl 48 revives

[viscid bone]

.<;

[next isle]

Casper gang

[hard plume]

Nothing’s more fun than reviving a fallen teammate…after you downed him with a crate drop

[grizzled whale]

uhm

[chrome terrace]

mozzyfx - Classes - Battlefield 2042

__Casper __ ⭐ 27

Kills: 2,740
K/D Ratio: 4.31
Kills Per Minute: 1.31
Revives: 27
Time Played: 35 hours

__Angel __ ⭐ 26

Kills: 2,684
K/D Ratio: 9.22
Kills Per Minute: 3.26
Revives: 185
Time Played: 14 hours

__Sundance __ ⭐ 23

Kills: 2,356
K/D Ratio: 4.44
Kills Per Minute: 1.5
Revives: 42
Time Played: 26 hours

__Boris __ ⭐ 15

Kills: 1,544
K/D Ratio: 4.03
Kills Per Minute: 1.96
Revives: 70
Time Played: 13 hours

__Falck __ ⭐ 3

Kills: 348
K/D Ratio: 2.74
Kills Per Minute: 1
Revives: 118
Time Played: 6 hours

__Irish __ ⭐ 2

Kills: 227
K/D Ratio: 2.49
Kills Per Minute: 1.05
Revives: 17
Time Played: 4 hours

__Dozer __ ⭐ 2

Kills: 210
K/D Ratio: 2.36
Kills Per Minute: 1.14
Revives: 13
Time Played: 3 hours

__Mackay __ ⭐ 1

Kills: 127
K/D Ratio: 2.15
Kills Per Minute: 1.12
Revives: 5
Time Played: 2 hours

__BF3 Assault__ ⭐ 1

Kills: 117
K/D Ratio: 3.44
Kills Per Minute: 1.51
Revives: 12
Time Played: 1 hour

__BC2 Engineer__ ⭐ 1

Kills: 110
K/D Ratio: 3.79
Kills Per Minute: 1.62
Revives: 1
Time Played: 1 hour

__BF3 Engineer__

Kills: 99
K/D Ratio: 4.5
Kills Per Minute: 1.7
Revives: 2
Time Played: 1 hour

__1942 Assault__

Kills: 99
K/D Ratio: 2.15
Kills Per Minute: 2
Revives: 1
Time Played: 1 hour

Battlefield Stats - By Mozzy#9999 • /about • /help

[hard plume]

Hows you do that?

[viscid bone]

@next isle - Least played is Mackay? That's something you dont see every day.

[next isle]

#stats :)

[next isle]

Lol, all I see are Mackays and Angels

[radiant prism]

Aww

mozzy pls

[hard plume]

How do you get it to show up here?

[next isle]

Admin abuse

[quiet shell]

"I am not overconfident, I'm just better than you"
"Ya know. I climbed mt. Everest and it was all downhill from there"
"Come on! That was too easy!"

"YARRR ANGEL DOES IT AGAIN!"
"Don't be sad, thats just how it works out sometimes!"

[cunning plume]

RAO

[radiant prism]

Admin perms

[hard plume]

Boooooooo

That’s abuse

[next isle]

[quiet shell]

End of every round this is what my ears are abused with

[viscid bone]

The real question that nobody ever asks is, how many times has Angel actually done it again.

[hard plume]

Pfft that’s nothing, got 116 hours on angel

[solid imp]

And. Did Paik really go too far?

[uncut bay]

did sundance really share the fun with the guys?

[pearl zenith]

How come in discarded, there is a exclusive bug that makes people invisible? All these occurrences that happen to me was they were pinged, 2/3 occurrences happened in C1 objective

[hard plume]

She doesn’t seem like the type to do that tbh

[viscid bone]

It is not specific to Discarded, but we're aware of the issue and have a fix ready for a future update. Sorry you're experiencing it.

[quiet shell]

I hope DICE brought the voice actors back in to do new voice lines that's more in-line with the tone we're supposed to have

[hard plume]

What is the tone we’re supposed to have?

[fiery shoal]

your expectation is not "what we're supposed to have"

[quiet shell]

Anything that isn't what the specialists say now.

[viscid bone]

Time for me to disappear and grab some food but hope y'all are staying safe, enjoy yourselves!

[hard plume]

Seems a bit broad

[pearl zenith]

In S1 are our levels gonna reset back to lvl 1?

[radiant prism]

Probably not

[cosmic mulch]

I hope not lol

[viscid bone]

( @ripe hedge choose A! )

[quiet shell]

Okay, how about something more in line with what the classes in past battlefield games said in-match

[fiery shoal]

i dont understand how people think as a consumer they determine what anything is supposed to be, and somehow the creators have to follow their will... as a consumer the only thing you can determine is if you buy the product or not.

[hard plume]

Thats boring nah

[viscid bone]

No, that's a lifetime thing you continue to work towards.

[quiet shell]

No it isn't.

[hard plume]

Yes it is

[frosty mural]

#stats

[quiet shell]

how is it boring?

[hard plume]

How is it not

[frosty mural]

It's been so much no one keeps track anymore, unless you add it to the stats?? 😄

[frosty mural]

how many S classes are there?

[pearl zenith]

One thing I'm hoping in the future is we will get Portal weapons to grind to tier 1 in AOW and we will get more mastery camos to grind for 😈. I genuinely love grinding battlefield 2042

[quiet shell]

Go take a listen at the voicelines of past battlefield games. Especially the battlefield 1 voice lines

[hard plume]

Fuck bf1

[pearl zenith]

I played bf1 for the 1st time and I loved campaign

[slate meadow]

Fuck yourself

[fiery shoal]

bf1, you mean the bf game that prioritized atmosphere over gameplay? no thanks

[slate meadow]

You mean the last bf game to focus on immersion and that clearly had more time and effort out into it then bfv and bf2042 put together

[fiery shoal]

immersion and atmosphere are synonymous.. so thanks for repeating what i said

[slate meadow]

Thankyou for complimenting how great the game design was of bf1

[fiery shoal]

thats not even close to what that means, if you really think that was the correlation made i feel sorry for you, but i hope/believe you are kind of trolling

[radiant prism]

Yeah, the Hellriegel was fantastic game design lmao. Art design and game design are two very different things.

[ripe hedge]

Why? 👀

[radiant prism]

Yes, BF1's atmosphere is fantastic. That unfortunately comes at the cost of the gameplay which in my opinion is fucking abhorrent

[slate meadow]

Also depends if your talking about spatial immersion or emotional immersion

[fiery shoal]

theres a reason the next title basically dropped everything bf1 had going on it it gameplay wise

[velvet sand]

Because he wants to be wrong. B is clearly the correct choice : 3

[next isle]

Choose B

[slate meadow]

Yeah and that game went so well didn't it 😂

[fiery shoal]

bf1 had "good enough" gunplay and movement (the pillars of an online fps), while throwing in a bunch of game designs that were just dumb... sweetspots, elite, behemoths, etc

[fervent grotto]

What are we choosing

[fervent grotto]

I really like behemoths and elites

[fiery shoal]

you know 90% of the complaints people have actually have nothing to do with the game itself? people complain about a shitty trailer or what an EA exec said, hardly anyone complains about the ACTUAL game

[radiant prism]

They can be fun, but ultimately are gimmicky and rather unbalanced

[fervent grotto]

Not really. Behemoths are very easy to take down, and elites are too.

[velvet sand]

Yes, gimmicky and can be unbalance but...also a ton of fun and a super neat concept.

[radiant prism]

The behemoths in particular exist solely to explode and look cool. No matter what reddit says, no the zeppelin crash doesn't look good after getting shot down in 60 seconds for the 500th time

[fervent grotto]

But if you have a good team controlling the behemoth it can be very scary

[slate meadow]

That's b.s the only redeeming part of bfv was it's Pacific update you know bfv sold almost half the number of physical copies of bf1 at launch ?

[radiant prism]

It is a cool concept, don't get me wrong. But they really doesn't warrant their return IMO, not in any permanent capacity at least.

[fervent grotto]

We need bf1 in portal. I want to shoot at the behemoths with a fighter jet

[hard plume]

Good team? Battlefield? Choose one

[fiery shoal]

yea? what else did people complain about? oh yea women being prominent in the game... and uhhh... what else? we have absolutely no idea about the physical copies sold...

[velvet sand]

In that execution, I agree. But the concept is solid to build on and I'd love to see them expand the idea and continue to refine it. The "weather events" don't have anywhere near the "pizzaz" of the behemoths.

[fervent grotto]

You do realize you can play with friends right?

[velvet sand]

Assuming we have friends is a pretty bold assumption : P

[uncut bay]

i hoped 2042 would bring back elites and behemoths in some form

[hard plume]

A good team requires more than 4 friends

[fervent grotto]

Wow a no friends joke sooooo funny

[radiant prism]

Also, there was such a wide range. Things like the Char 2C and the Armored train were borderline useless sometimes, but the Dreadnought was often game-breakingly powerful and could just serve to give a couple players the easiest way to get 80 kills I've ever seen, by effectively playing minesweeper. Point is, cool on paper, but mechanically flawed.

[fiery shoal]

all the mechanics that got dropped from bf1 were made up by some edgy 15 year old throwing game mechanics at the wall because "its cool"

[radiant prism]

I have a particular hate boner for that dreadnought. I've never found a more boring way to get 80 kills in a match in my life

Well, besides maybe Hardcore mode.

[slate meadow]

Urm the whole thing of anybody can revive you the fact they released the game in stages lmao and yeah the p.r didn't do well either but go look on YouTube see how many hardcore bf players still adore bf1 compared to bfv

[fiery shoal]

so your big complaints about the acual game are revives and live service... ok

(bfv only released with 1 less map than bf1 btw)

[radiant prism]

Game released in stages? Kinda like BF1 releasing 75% of its content through paid DLC that died in months...

[fiery shoal]

dude is straight up grasping at straws that dont exist, but hes so convinced hes right

[slate meadow]

The campaign released then multiplayer then fireshit dropped but by that time it's player base had already left

[fiery shoal]

campaign and mp came out at the same time.. firestorm launched later yea, but that was always planned and a game mode that bf1 never got either....

bfv player base has been fairly consistent, at least for my region

lying on the internet to random really doesnt achieve anything, even if you did fool us...

[radiant prism]

Its funny, BFV had a higher playercount than BF1 for almost the entirety of its life cycle. The BF1 fanboys were always a very vocal minority

[hard plume]

Yet people bitched about the scout heli smh

[near hare]

what is the FFA mode LMFAO, why is this featured

[uncut bay]

it's good for kills, but very poorly designed

[velvet sand]

I tried it a few times and kept getting dropped into quarter filled matches right before they ended so I gave up : /

[hearty flame]

??? do we have numbers for that?

[near hare]

your teammates just spawn on you and kill you, its fucking dumb

[radiant prism]

By direct comparison of BFV and BF1's server count in my region during peak hours. Every time I checked when prompted, BFV had more full servers in my region than BF1 by a sizeable margin

I concede that its a "trust me bro", but I wouldn't be saying it if it wasn't true

[hearty flame]

Ya thats a pretty "big trust me bro". but did you mean during Vs lifespan or during their respective games lifespan?

[hard plume]

Tbf bfv seems to be doing way better them bf1 most of the time recently

[fiery shoal]

i mean, its only natural considering one is the newer title

[radiant prism]

I meant during V's lifespan

[hearty flame]

ah ok gotcha

[hard plume]

Yeah but it was always considered “inferior” compared to bf1

[fiery shoal]

by the core crowd, people forget the BF franchise sells millions, its a blockbuster title that people move on from when the next big title comes

[hearty flame]

I didnt play 1 but most comparisons had 1 with better atmosphere but V with better gunplay and balancing

[fiery shoal]

that really is the simplest comparison between the two

[hard plume]

The atmosphere wasn’t even that great tbh

[fiery shoal]

pick what you like and have at it

[hearty flame]

I dunno. watching clips of matches starting with a whistle blowing and everyone screaming is great. and some of the voice lines really sells the terror of an evolving battlefield going from cavalry charges to flamethrowers and tanks

[fiery shoal]

i thought the atmosphere was pretty cool, but personally thats not something i care about in a fps mp game

and honestly i think its weird that people would focus/favor atmosphere on a fps mp game

[hearty flame]

Eh i think of it like icing on a cake. the cake is what youre there for but the icing helps add to it
gives it personality ya know?

[hardy leaf]

its mid-summer here but no season 1 update?

[hard plume]

Eh, it looks cool but in game it’s just “wheres the horsie for me to use to cut peoples heads off”

[fiery shoal]

yea but the base cake was just decent (gameplay)

why would i want a decent cake with great icing?

[hard plume]

Its late spring dude,chill

[fiery shoal]

Summer 2022 in Northern Hemisphere will begin on
Tuesday, June 21

and thats NOT "on tuesday june 21st we will be getting content"

the amount of messages im going to expect in the first week of summer from people complaining about no content yet...

[copper fulcrum]

I'm willing to bet you that there is one single nerd that has an alarm ready

"YoU SaId EaRlY SuMmEr, dIcE"

[fiery shoal]

00:01 on june 21st...

[velvet sand]

DICE has a weird definition of "early" where the 19th, more than halfway through the money, is technically "early" apparently : P

[grizzled whale]

Well to be fair, they said that the april update was "planned" for early april, they never specifically said it WOULD release early april

[hardy leaf]

cant wait for the first 15 days of early summer

[velvet sand]

And S1 is "planned" for early summer : 3

[grizzled whale]

no they actually said it this time

not "planned to start early summer"

[hardy leaf]

even if they specifically said, no one is taking DICE for their word

[dapper river]

I just want more maps, man

Or at least multiple rush/breakthrough layouts in the meantime, the maps are big enough to support it.

[velvet sand]

I wouldn't put down money on betting that the date/window is 100% locked.

[hardy leaf]

i wont be mad if the early summer update actually comes in august and even then it turns out to be broken to the core

[grizzled whale]

oh i wont, just pointing out the difference

[arctic grove]

This really boggles my mind. They aleady have big maps. I assume it wouldnt take much time or effort to make 2 or 3 different layouts of the same map.

[arctic grove]

or suprised. Its expected for DICE

[hardy leaf]

yes these are the expectations from them as per their current standards

[cedar turtle]

Can we perform a group hug together?

[quaint bane]

can anybody help with tests?

[thick copper]

pick c everytime

[cedar turtle]

Especially if it's fill in the blank

[quaint bane]

haha, i meen i need help with testing map

[silk surge]

I reluctantly got my SFAR to T1, but now I'm in love with it. That underbarrel is GOAT.

[thick copper]

baaa

[arctic grove]

What if you wanted to go to heaven but God said:

Unable to load persistent data

[silk surge]

They fixed the underbarrel bugs in 4.0, and now it's insanely powerfull at high ground.

[thick copper]

i'd uninstall heaven

[arctic grove]

[subtle iron]

and install it again

[thick copper]

take that "ALMIGHTY"

i am the god now

[silk surge]

https://youtu.be/P1p1EdQ5eP4

[thick copper]

anyone else get a picture of elon musk after the vid ends?

[cedar turtle]

Send me an Angel!

[silk surge]

https://youtu.be/JQC86pilOuA

[grizzled whale]

didnt even kill the 2 that ran past smh

[near hare]

same guy been hacking like 6 games in a row, how is he not banned LMAO

[grizzled whale]

dm me his name

[edgy oriole]

report him

[near hare]

how the fuck do you report him, i cant even see him on the leaderboard

lmao, his name just shows "son" and hes killed like 35 people 20 seconds into the game

[grizzled whale]

lol

seems like something that totally happened

[arctic grove]

wait until they nerf the underbarrel

[near hare]

??

why would i make this up?

[grizzled whale]

record it and dm me the video

[near hare]

sure, just gonna wait till he squad wipes again and where it shows hes in the squad as well

[thick copper]

how do you record something in the past?

[near hare]

nvidia replay

just turned it on sadly, but since this guy thinks im lying ill send him a clip lol

[thick copper]

i think the only time i recorded something was with the xbox windows microsoft thing on my pc about 3 years ago and that was to show a simulation of what happens when you replace jupiter with the sun

[copper fulcrum]

Do people just see the "Squads and Players" button and totally ignore that?

You go there, the names are in alphabetical order, you hit report.

[near hare]

when i tell you hes not on the list, hes not on the list lmao

[copper fulcrum]

Then you missed his name or he left

[grizzled whale]

you said you cant see him on the leaderboard

not squads and players list

[near hare]

oml, relax bud hes not even showing in game. you think im coming here to make up some dumb random story? yes thats what im trying to do in my spare time.

[grizzled whale]

ive seen people waste their time in worst ways

[near hare]

right, well congrats on that bud but i have better things to do besides coming into a battlefield discord out of no where and making up a complete bull shit lie

[grizzled whale]

It just seems unbelievable, even if someone hacks they still show up in the player list

[thick copper]

what if they hacked a bot and cheated around in that?

[velvet sand]

That...doesn't seem practical/realistic.

[copper fulcrum]

Then it would show the bots name

[grizzled whale]

what if its a magical ant thats inside the game code

[near hare]

well seeing as the lobby isnt being wiped anymore i dont think hes in the game.

[thick copper]

do bots show in the score board?

[copper fulcrum]

Yes

[grizzled whale]

https://tenor.com/view/kmt-yeah-right-hmmm-really-gif-21502858

[thick copper]

cringey earbuds

[copper fulcrum]

Ironically at one point a bot was on top of the team because he was driving a MAV with a bunch of players on it

[near hare]

youre cringe bud lol

[thick copper]

bald hipster bearded man using cringey apple earbuds

[grizzled whale]

"hey this unlikely thing happened to me"
"prove it"
"Hes gone now"

[velvet sand]

I mean...with the lack of persistent lobbies if the match ends...yeah.

[grizzled whale]

yet he was in the lobby with the dude for 6 matches in a row before that

[near hare]

unlikely that a guy wipes a lobby hacking? hows that unlikely LMAo

[velvet sand]

F to doubt that : | (not you, the claim of 6 matches in a row)

[grizzled whale]

because ive played for 400 hours and i havent seen that happen ONCE

[silk surge]

Btw, does anyone know if it's possible to spawn in a team mates vehicle at the start of the round somehow? I play on PS5, and sometimes when I get booted into a game right after everyone has deployed, I spawn in an almost full vehicle, which should be impossible unless people redeployed in super sonic speed.

[grizzled whale]

and ive never seen anyone claim the same thing

[near hare]

i cba wasting my time typing to your clown self, doubt all you want lol GL trolling discord

[copper fulcrum]

Bro I'm nearing 1000 hours and haven't come across anything like that lol

[arctic grove]

getting ea play pro

[thick copper]

ew

[copper fulcrum]

The only thing near this is a jet crashlanding into spawn

[grizzled whale]

unlikely thing + unlikely situation + convenient reason for no proof = believable story

[arctic grove]

[copper fulcrum]

Bro also didn't even say a weapon/vehicle or anything just 'wiping'

[grizzled whale]

guess im hacking

[copper fulcrum]

imagine dying by fall damage, L

[velvet sand]

Is crashing jets into the attacking team still a thing?

[copper fulcrum]

I don't see it often

[grizzled whale]

imagine having a parachute option that actually opens your chute when pressing the button once

[velvet sand]

I haven't popped into a "fresh" Breakthrough match in forever, so I haven't seen if it's still happening or not. Would laugh if it still hasn't been fixed 6 months post-launch despite being highlighted back in beta.

[grizzled whale]

couldnt be 2042

[velvet sand]

At least our specialists' hands finally hold the grips on the parachute properly. WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!

[grizzled whale]

dont really care about that

i just want it to FUCKING OPEN WHEN I PRESS THE BUTTON

[dapper river]

being too close to the ground (or wall, or any surface, really) will prevent you from opening your chute. That's why you always end up splattered on the ground when you try to skip the zipline jumping down an elevator shaft.

[uncut bay]

that explains a lot

guess there's some semblance of realism with it now

[grizzled whale]

mine doesnt even open when im atleast 30m above the ground in the middle of the open sky

like in the video, i spammed the button but did nothing

[uncut bay]

pro gamer tip: turn on auto parachute deploy

[dapper river]

angel too fat, he stuffed more armor packs into his kit instead of his chute. sad!

[limber garden]

First things first. Apologies for jumping in like that.
2nd: Dear DICE/EA - Sundance is NOT excellent with their anti-vehicles grenades. in fact ALSO VISIBLE ON YOUR OWN DEMO AT THE 50 SEC MARK. https://www.youtube.com/embed/ICeu6WYX9hw?rel=0&autoplay=1

[uncut bay]

the anti vehicle grenades are in a decent spot, though i think there should be some sort of marking mechanism to ensure it goes after the correct vehicle

i also think the anti personnel grenades need a buff, since getting kills with those is damn near impossible

[limber garden]

I got the t1 skin with them, tell me about it. The mind damage is unfixable

[hard plume]

You should play ark survival evolved, the amount of times they’ve missed their release windows

And yet players still never learn

[uncut bay]

you did? Fuck, props to you. I was wondering how many players worldwide had gotten it, since it's so utterly broken in difficulty

[brittle forge]

“Other game dev bad”
Ok, how is that relevant to DICE lmao

[uncut bay]

one end is "spot people" other end is "donate your soul to satan and hope this shit gadget kills 1200 people"

i'm still not even at 400 kills

[limber garden]

Well, wingsuit above cluster of enemies (breakthrough preferably) throw nade, die. Rinse and repeat

Most annoying challenge I ever did in my history of gaming

[brittle forge]

Yeah the T1 challenges can be pretty atrocious

[grizzled whale]

meanwhile mackay mastery 360

[brittle forge]

Props to you if you get them done but I personally don’t care to waste my time playing in stupid ways just to get a red and black skin

At least with guns it’s just get kills

[limber garden]

Sundance'a t1 is dope tho, worth the damage

[uncut bay]

i want sundance's T1 because it's the only one with a helmet, which is ridiculous considering sundance is a fucking sky diver

[brittle forge]

Yeah fair

[uncut bay]

also the skin looks really cool overall imo

[brittle forge]

I thought the helmet was gonna be her default appearance because it was the only one used in all the trailers

[uncut bay]

right? I was hoping for that skin as default, or at least unlockable

[limber garden]

Yeah, lol, trailer showed it like default skin (only that it was green) and they recolored and branded it a T1 name. Awesome....

[brittle forge]

I like McKay’s JTF Vet skin far more than his T1

The best T1 skin imo is Casper

[limber garden]

If you are really up to it, took about 3-4h hours a day for a week to unlock

[low timber]

I did T1 Sundance without suicide tactics.

[brittle forge]

I would like Rao’s if it had a helmet instead of a beret. Points for being unique I guess but Rao in all the promotional material had a helmet on and none of his skins in the game have one

[limber garden]

That's some next level shit right there

[uncut bay]

i'd get casper T1 but it's too boring to sit in a drone for hours. That's another issue with the T1 challenges, they're poorly thought out and simply not fun

[limber garden]

I once got in a squad of sundances with t1 coolest shit ever

[low timber]

I’d say the trick is to bounce the grenade in a way so the small explosive devices won’t scatter too wide.

[brittle forge]

To be fair DICE’s challenges have never been good. In previous games a lot of them force you to play in a way that was completely detrimental to winning the game

At least with this you’d be spotting people for your team

[velvet sand]

Yeah...not exactly exciting. I'm still slowly working towards Falcks (and being frustrated how poor the targeting remains for the medi-gun) and needing to heal like 2K people is...boring. Fine in that it's something you can passively do over time without much effort, but it's just so "meh"

[limber garden]

Eh, if they don't scatter they don't kill, in my experience at least

[low timber]

I just today got him to T1

[uncut bay]

i'm currently doing paik since hers is just to shoot people and use the wallhack

[limber garden]

Wallhack, lmfao

[low timber]

Started to do Paik today as well

[analog stirrup]

wish casper got the wall hack imo

[limber garden]

Did you sundance fans know there is an unlimited ascent bug?

[hard plume]

Remember when people thought she would be the most op character in the game

[brittle forge]

I think it’s so funny that rao’s is like “hack with his gadget and it’s shitty range” and you have Angel’s piss easy “resupply teammates” lol

[scenic tartan]

Breakthrough 64 is the best game mode

[velvet sand]

I just want them to nerf specialist skills across the board, hard. De-emphasize them a lot to promote some actual balance. Make them more "flavor" than "functional" and more directly tied to their respective classes.

[low timber]

Well the problem with the scatter is that if they scatter too wide they won’t do enough damage to kill, if you bounce the grenade from the ground they scatter more grouped, so the target gets 5 scatter nades worth of explosion damage.

[brittle forge]

At the time people had no reason to believe otherwise. they actually had toned her down in response

[limber garden]

When i got it couple of months ago, when people stand on them it didn't do damage...

[scenic tartan]

I think they should get rid of the passives and just make all the specialist equipment a gadget slot and have generic soldiers. If you want to pick a character and skin that's up to you like bf5 was

[low timber]

Rao’s mastery is just spotting, motion balls and Soflam counts.

[copper fulcrum]

and getting hit might also count now lol

[low timber]

I doubt, as his passive only spots for him, not to the whole team

[brittle forge]

This is the best idea for what to do honestly. It’s a nice compromise

[velvet sand]

Specialists aren't going anywhere so any changes have to be within the existing framework of the system.

[opal vessel]

am i allowed to share bf2042 clips here?

[brittle forge]

I think that goes in another channel

[opal vessel]

were?

[copper fulcrum]

Depends on how you do it

[brittle forge]

And you might have to have some role to share video. Should be in #streams-and-videos

[analog stirrup]

everyone drops clips in this channel, so go ahead

[formal imp]

Thoughts on the Kriss Vector?

[fervent grotto]

Good

[copper fulcrum]

it's good but I prefer the SFAR or MP9

[opal vessel]

alr i sent it

[brittle forge]

Yeah but he doesn’t have the role for it in this channel

[formal imp]

Is the SFAR better now than what it was on release?

[brittle forge]

Yes but that’s true of every gun except the PP-29

[copper fulcrum]

ye

[low timber]

So far I have 4 on T1, 2 on T2 and 4 on T3 of specialists.
Need 19k damage with Boris’ turret to T1 him.
Irish might take time as I need enemies throwing nades at the APS…

[copper fulcrum]

Tier 1 on everything except Irish or Boris, I just don't like either of them for my playstyle of giving everyone the finger

A very hyperactive finger

[low timber]

I’m most likely saving Irish as his shield and APS are useful, but it’s all on the enemies if I progress his mastery or not.

[brittle forge]

I feel like you could only really make progress on those operators if you play Breakthrough

[frosty mural]

works on projectiles from vehicles too

[copper fulcrum]

Not all of them of course

[brittle forge]

Kind of BS that Irish’s shield doesn’t help his mastery at all

[copper fulcrum]

How would it? Placement in objectives?

[formal imp]

I really wish shotguns were better, at least the MCS.

[low timber]

Yup, not in every vehicle projectile, only all the nades, Carl-Gustav and rarely I’ve seen Nightbird’s 16 fast fireing infantry missiles.

[brittle forge]

I figured they would’ve put a “damage taken” ticker on it “damage taken while teammate is behind it” or something

[low timber]

Block bullets?

Just like the ballistic shield in Hardline

[brittle forge]

I guess I understand why they wouldn’t because both of those would rely on other people but that’s kind of true of all of them

[copper fulcrum]

MCS-880 CAN be good

[quaint bane]

i've ended my BR mode for portal, now BF2042 has battle royale

[copper fulcrum]

I've gotten a lot of kills with it while wingsuiting, and from a distance too lol

[brittle forge]

The MCS is cracked but only if you hip fire it for some reason

Like its range doesn’t seem nearly as good if you actually ADS but I was dropping people from like 50 m away if I didn’t do that

[low timber]

Speaking of the shield, it needs to be taller, been and have sniped enemies behind the shield as their head pokes from behind it.

[brittle forge]

To be fair that’s what should happen unless you think people shouldn’t be able to return fire from behind the shield

[formal imp]

It can be for sure, but it’s nothing compared to for example the M97 from BFV.

[low timber]

While crouching*

[brittle forge]

ah

[low timber]

Well when you stand behind it your torso is also a bit too visible.

[brittle forge]

Yeah can be a bit short sometimes it seems to depend on where exactly you place it though

[low timber]

Yup, it’s not even always in 90° straight

[brittle forge]

Terrain deformation can kind of play hell with it

[uncut bay]

honestly yeah the shields are pretty weak rn imo, it's quite easy to just aim a bit higher up when someone's behind them

should be a bit taller i think, coming from a non irish player

[low timber]

The glass could also be maybe one way, like in R6S that window gadget you put on walls.

[uncut bay]

that'd be interesting

[heavy linden]

what?

its basically the same

[low timber]

Not the universal shield gadget in R6S but Mira’s windows she put in walls and are bullet proof and is one way glass.

[heavy linden]

can someone explain to me how casper spotting actually works

like how does spotting actually help

generally spotting not just casper's

[tiny imp]

angel need beard

[uncut bay]

your team can see where enemies are

[heavy linden]

how tho

like how do they acquire that information

[compact sleet]

It just give the enemies a red dot on their head I think

[uncut bay]

dorito over their head and marker on the map

[copper fulcrum]

Also worth noting that pinging ≠ spotting

[onyx plover]

SMGs are so broken

[copper fulcrum]

All guns are good in their own regard, SMGs just excel in CQC, as they should

[hexed mango]

when casper’s drone spots people, anyone on your team (or squad) can see that persons location on the map/minimap

[velvet sand]

SMG's are universally too strong at range for how they should perform.

[hexed mango]

no, k30 dies at range, so does pp29 and mp9, not sure about pbx

[uncut bay]

i hate this, wish pinging would also spot instead of just putting an obstructive marker in my face

[velvet sand]

I'm still waxing fools at fairly long ranges with my PP on top of abusing its close quarters strength.

[onyx plover]

HOW YOU GET HIT W/ A ROCKET AND NOT DIE!!!!!!!?????? WHAT!!!???

[velvet sand]

Don't skip abs day.

[copper fulcrum]

Transport Choppers take maybe three rockets

[copper fulcrum]

Pinging is for letting your squad know of danger or where to go

[heavy linden]

and how long does spotting last

[forest snow]

Playing hazard zone with randoms is miserable always seem to get the god awful players in my squad