battlefield-2042

[rapid moon]

Must be my internet yeah

[clear quail]

ye pretty sure it shud be bad connection

[arctic grove]

we’re in the end times

[clear quail]

cuz they fixed hit reg way back

[velvet sand]

It still feels pretty hit-or-miss tbh

[grizzled whale]

i never had issues with hitreg, yall just need to hit your shots

[clear quail]

exactly

i thought so too at the start

[near hare]

yeah ive never had any issues with hit reg either

played like 20 games today as well o.o

[velvet sand]

When you dump half a mag into someone at almost point-blank and only half the shots register...not really. It's not always bad, but it's still iffy from time to time.

[slate meadow]

does HZ give good xp

[hard plume]

Perhaps it’s user error?

[edgy oriole]

yeah i think the last major hit reg fix was jan or feb i think.

[near hare]

sounds like an internet issue lol

[grizzled whale]

you didnt hit your shots

[arctic grove]

rbd was about it for me

ill clip if I ever get a clip where my hitreg had a seizure but for 6 months it hasn’t really happened. at least according to my memory

that type of thing can also simply be ur own internet

[slate meadow]

i deffo suffered with hit reg issues in afew games i think to be honest its a network code issue

[uneven palm]

Omfg..

[clear quail]

any person who's been playing the game for a while can say with certainty that hit reg issues were fixed

[velvet sand]

I did. I know I'm not some MLG Pro and don't pretend to be, I'm very aware of my current skill level. But I'm still seeing hitreg issues from time to time. But if you want to pretend everything is still fine then you do you, fam.

[grizzled whale]

nah, missed shots

[velvet sand]

You @radiant prism you want toxic stupid shit? This is it. Idiots like this.

[arctic grove]

lmfao

[slate meadow]

just because its not as bad as it was doesnt mean the issue isnt still there in a low %

[clear quail]

but very low

[arctic grove]

all they said was missed shots

[uneven palm]

You mean very low iq motherfuckers

[grizzled whale]

mans cant take a joke

[edgy oriole]

only time i have hit reg issues is when connection to servers are poo poo

[arctic grove]

id be so pissed

[near hare]

^lack of skill

[clear quail]

I've been playing the game since launch, non-stop. So my experience counts kinda as viable proof.

[radiant prism]

Don't drag me back into this lmao, especially over a joke. By your logic, it should be your job to figure out a way to work around this.

[velvet sand]

Naw dawg, it really doesn't.

[edgy oriole]

there was a little hate in my voice

[clear quail]

it's either server connections, which happen sometimes or its from ur end

[velvet sand]

You were complaining about toxicity, decided to highlight some. And that's not logic, I don't work for DICE/EA so I don't have a job. Do better.

[clear quail]

gotcha

[grizzled whale]

"i dont like this joke, so this is toxicity"

[radiant prism]

Don't worry, you're highlighting plenty of toxicity. Particularly when you ping me and a little yellow box shows up on my screen around your message while I'm trying to work on things.

[hard plume]

You know next maybe record your game so you have proof against calling you a crappy shooter

[slate meadow]

your personal experience means diddly squat when there are no end of video proof of hit reg stil not working 100%

[velvet sand]

Jokes are usually funny, that's just low-effort trolling bro.

[dim blade]

bf2042 was made by the lizard people

[clear quail]

gotcha 👍

[velvet sand]

Sorry I'm not MLG pro, bro. I'll go buy capture cards and make sure to record every second of my game so when some sweaty loser challenges me I can just slap the video on liveleaks and pwn him.

[arctic grove]

if you play on pc can’t u just use OBS?

[velvet sand]

Then...disable pings temporarily if you want to focus on something else?

[arctic grove]

i don’t really ever record anything on pc so idk

[dim blade]

if you have nvidia card you can use shadowplay

i found that one the most convinent

[hard plume]

I think even nividia has a screen recorder too

[arctic grove]

edge use shadow play

[dim blade]

if you just want clips, not if you are making actual youtube videos or whatevert

[clear quail]

unless you're good at editing

[radiant prism]

Then...don't ping people who aren't active in chat? Maybe there was a reason I hadn't sent a message in just under 10 mintues? Jesus bro, just leave me alone.

[dim blade]

Also it auto records some moments for you if you have that setting on

[slate meadow]

i dont know that they are all hit reg issues or just terible network issue though

[clear quail]

but it's a pain in the ass sometimes

[solar moss]

i dont even play the game anymore just wanted to see how everyones day was going

[hard plume]

Stop ignoring me bro! Bro! Bro why you ignoring me!!11!2!1!2232

[arctic grove]

chaos incarnate

[clear quail]

goin well, ty for askin. Wbt urs

[slate meadow]

i mean ive got 500mbps internet and im hard wired so surely the network issues arent my side

[clear quail]

maybe server

[dim blade]

ports can still be fucked

[grizzled whale]

Doesnt mean its toxicity

[elder patrol]

Still going at it I see

[slate meadow]

i mean i cant run a speed and ping test right now to see if my pc isnt getting the download speed

[dim blade]

You cant? Also thats not what i meant

[slate meadow]

i can sorry

[grizzled whale]

Spaghett

[elder patrol]

That's what I thought you cutie

[keen blaze]

oh that's not good.

[copper fulcrum]

I honestly haven't really had hit-reg issues unless like 40 people are in a single room which rarely happens

[fiery shoal]

at launch i hardly had problems unless it was BT at certain points

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah it's rare to get so many people in such a small space

[clear quail]

u can bind steady scope to right mouse button n this is kinda op

[copper fulcrum]

You've been able to do this since keybinds existed. Even then your character can only hold their breath for so long

[fervent grotto]

🤨📸

[elder patrol]

That's it come here you

[fervent grotto]

[pulsar vine]

[elder patrol]

[fervent grotto]

hey look they have a nonexistent emoji right here!

[pulsar vine]

[elder patrol]

Armor makes me the big sad

[vestal snow]

This channel is as much of a joke as the game itself is

[grizzled whale]

As an empath, i sense you are upset

did you ask all of them to ID themselves?

Here, take this M5 recoilless, may it help you in your travels

oh hes gone

[elder patrol]

Spaghetti

[white geyser]

I want the sraw in 2042

[still vault]

I stoleded it, in case future projects need a M5

[elder patrol]

Sraw would be pretty cool

[white geyser]

Lets not forget the MBT LAW, I remember using it in BF4, it fires freely and if you see enemy tank from long range, it acts like heat seeking missile

[elder patrol]

Did they fox quickscoping on here too? It feels really smooth

[primal geode]

loggin in just to say that the last patch was a huge improvement. (Though the Bolte has to go!)

[edgy oriole]

i use toggle aim so it feels the same as before for me.

[elder patrol]

Feels 😩 perfect

[copper fulcrum]

Quick Question, do any PC players use one button for toggle crouch and hold to prone?

[velvet sand]

Reverse of that.

[edgy oriole]

toggle for both. C=crouch Z=Prone.

[copper fulcrum]

Okay because I do that lol. CTRL for crouch, hold it to go prone.

[velvet sand]

I just wish prone consistently worked in this damned game. Half the time the game freaks out and doesn't know where to place you so you jitter around, 40% of the time you "slide" down an invisible hill, 10% of the time it actually works an and you are prone and motionless while ADSing.

[copper fulcrum]

@edgy oriole Less possibility for error with movement is better for me. Especially with my fat pinkie

[chilly oak]

^

[dapper berry]

this is the way

[river zinc]

This is the way

[dapper river]

Ctrl for hold to crouch, z to prone, x to toggle/go-to crouch

[copper fulcrum]

Two buttons for crouching, hmm

[dapper river]

It means I can go from prone to crouch without standing. i think it's been the default at least since BF3 lel. Just what I'm used to.

[compact sleet]

Buddy really joined, said that and left 😂

[grizzled whale]

P sure he got muted and they deleted his shit

[edgy oriole]

reddit people doing what reddit people do

[merry furnace]

please add air b90 in battlfield

[velvet sand]

Man I hope infantry-only modes are back in portal later this week, preferably on the old maps which are mostly actually good.

[uncut bay]

yeah i would really prefer to play on the older maps with 2042 guns, much more enjoyable to grind them that way

[velvet sand]

Ye. Plus I miss the infantry-only (or infantry-focused) mode in general - another "legacy feature" I guess, so it's lame only really having access to it a few days of the week at most. Easily the most fun I've had in the game since launch.

Maps with cover? Maps with lanes? Sightlines that aren't all 360 degrees? Points with multiple access points that still give defenders cover so they're not getting shot in the back? Still some open areas to traverse more quickly but with higher risk? Feed it all into me. I wish the folks that made those maps still worked at DICE.

[low timber]

Yup, Arica harbor conquest was fun, only problem I had was the air vehicles as it’s not a map that was made with them, like could’ve at least made the ZU-23-2/VADS AA cannons in the uncaps.

[velvet sand]

That's why infantry-only is great! No aircraft and only a few transport vehicles available, so you're not getting farmed by condors and shit all game long who are pelting you from out of missile range.

[low timber]

Well… when I played the infantry conquest i just couldn’t take it, there was always someone behind me, even when just spawned in, and the MAV was quite a menace.

[olive lake]

So I learned any past weeklies are coming back at some point. That's really good to know given the game's current condition

[glossy storm]

I almost always play as infantry.

Vehicles are just not my forte.

[merry furnace]

hi

DACE buying by Elon mask

[velvet sand]

Who is Elon mask and is it just Elon Musk wearing the mask from The Mask?

[glossy storm]

The hell's DACE?

[glossy storm]

Or do you mean DICE?

I'm guessing you do.

[velvet sand]

Likely talking about the extensive fakes of people changing their pfp's and names to mirror Musk's and claiming they're going to buy EA.

[dapper berry]

bro i saw it on twitter bro trust me it's real 😉

[uncut bay]

they need to get rid of those stupid gun animations when you spawn in, can't count the amount of times i've died because i can't see where the fuck i'm aiming

[hexed mango]

tdm? takes 2 seconds to make that game mode just saying

[compact sleet]

Would be fun playing pacific war but with 2042 guns and operators

[hexed mango]

lel

i asked in #portal but that’s kinda dead, does anyone have ideas for custom game modes that i should code… (possibly something a little on the simpler side, but anything to practice)

[heavy linden]

bfv operation underground with bf2042 soldiers equipment and weapons

no vehicles

rush gamemode with more players

[compact sleet]

Would be fun though

[velvet sand]

Sir, this is the Frostbite engine. Nothing is "simple" : |

[glad mist]

https://youtu.be/UgHTehCBLMg

[hexed mango]

uh takes literally 2 seconds to make a tdm game mode on https://portal.battlefield.com

[velvet sand]

I mean, I could make one and sit on an empty server for a while which I guess would be fun and exciting.

[arctic grove]

did they patch maps yet general

[velvet sand]

No. The "map improvements" will happen to two maps by the end of S1, whenever that is. No word on when other maps will receive minor updates.

[arctic grove]

😔

i just wanna play bf 2042 man

it’s unplayable with them damn infantry hostile designs

[velvet sand]

I hear you, the maps are deeply frustrating to play on, especially if your team doesn't have good pilots to counter enemy air and just get farmed all day. Alls I really play is flashback CQ and infantry-only CQ. Maps are better for flashback and no dealing with the terrible, awful, no-good infantry vs. vehicle balance. Shame that those are just featured portal modes.

[arctic grove]

the game has a neat little concept, and a lot of the maps are incredibly gorgeous style wise and have so much potential

[rapid moon]

Free for all would be so much better if the maps werent so shite for it

Apart from kaleidoscope they all kinda suck sadly

[velvet sand]

"How should we make maps for 128 players?" "Just make them big, open, flat spaces with the occasional building. But mostly just big, open, flat spaces with nothing to protect infantry as they run 200 meters to the flag point. AAA MAP DESIGN"

[hard plume]

Having bog open maps has always been a thing in bf

[rapid moon]

Yes but not only having big open maps

We've always had vehicle maps in bf games but not all of them should be vehicle maps

[velvet sand]

Having some open maps, yes. But having all 7 (lol, SO MUCH CONTENT FOR A MULTIPLAYER ONLY GAME) maps almost all be giant open fields with the exception of Manifest is garbage. Hence why there's been fairly universal feedback/criticism that the maps suck.

[rapid moon]

Honestly the only big problems with the game now are the maps and just lack of content

But sadly neither of these can be fixed quickly

I still stand by just putting portal maps into the normal 64 player rotation

[uncut bay]

"can i make big open maps?"
"so you can accommodate 128 players while retaining the flow and enjoyment of smaller maps?"
"yeeees"

actually just makes giant maps with zero cover that make performance crash through the ground

[velvet sand]

Lord, if we could have Portal maps/guns (maybe minus 1942 guns) in AOW that would be grand. Especially with some updates so they work for breakthrough and 128 players. But I don't think I have any confidence that current DICE would do a good job of it.

[rapid moon]

And even with such open and lifeless maps the number of assets is still maxed out somehow

[velvet sand]

Since Portal was handled by Ripple Effect and not DICE and all.

[rapid moon]

Maps definetly but id kinda be against weapons cause they would ruin the already not great balance

[uncut bay]

yeah, crazy how most interiors are just empty and have zero furniture

[velvet sand]

Can't "ruin" terrible balance with more terrible balance. I'll take bad balance with more weapon options over bad balance with few weapon optoins.

[rapid moon]

Im assuming youve played 1942 in portal and seen how insanely strong the (insert name of german assault rifle here) is

[velvet sand]

Lots of use of flat buildings/surfaces as well. It seems they were very strapped for polygon budgets with their design of these maps. Which doesn't help since at least 30%+ of each map is essentially wasted space.

[velvet sand]

Hence why I said "maybe without 1942 weapons" : P

[rapid moon]

Thats just one example theres other weapons that are still clearly superior to 2042 guns

[rapid moon]

I wouldnt say that the weapon balance is terrible tbh its not great but its not terrible

[velvet sand]

Can't make the bad weapon balance as-is any worse, and shouldn't require a ton of work to tune down some of the overperforming Portal weapons. But again...that takes work and effort.

[rapid moon]

It also takes testing and thats clearly something they dont like doing over at dice

[velvet sand]

It's pretty trash, dude. SMG's are SUPER strong at distances they shouldn't be, LMG/AR's are too strong going full auto at distances, DMR category has basically no reason to exist, shotguns...largely why because there are few maps with close quarters where they'd even shine.

[pallid wharf]

Can anyone tell me why my spot and spot assists aren't counting towards the weekly Farstrike?

[velvet sand]

I'm sure they test a lot and the QA team provides TONS of feedback!...and that the designers ignore most of it as they ignored all the feedback from the technical tests etc.

[rapid moon]

Pretty sure its a visual bug they should still be counting

[velvet sand]

Are you doing it in AOW/official Portal modes or vs bots? Bots won't progress you IIRC, though there are bugs with the tracking progress too.

[pallid wharf]

I've been playing Official Conquest servers.

[rapid moon]

It should be counting then

[velvet sand]

might be the visual bug then, you should still be progressing even if the progress isn't being shown...you just have to sorta remember how far you are with each goal : /

[rapid moon]

What are you using to do it?

[pallid wharf]

Okay, it's just been a few matches and it still says 0/50.

SWS

[rapid moon]

I looked at the kill count on my weapons for example

[rapid moon]

Use casper drone on breakthrough should take about 3 minutes

Not even joking

[pallid wharf]

Oh, okay. Thanks!

[rapid moon]

@pallid wharf also equip proximity sensors and just yeet them into crowds of enemies

[pallid wharf]

Lmaooo, okay haha

[heavy linden]

I think he is having an issue with a bug not a skill issue

[velvet sand]

That or a single round of 128 breakthrough with the soflam should get you the 50 spots very, very easily.

[rapid moon]

Soflam works too but i found casper drone to be straight up cheese

[heavy linden]

I get around 150 spots per round with casper

[rapid moon]

Id say the extended range on smgs ars and lmgs is just cause of the sheer size of the maps but i do agree with dmr's being useless and shotguns being useless cause of the maps

[velvet sand]

Ye, it's frustrating. I like DMR's usually, but they're just such garbage. Even after the nerf to the AC-42 (which needed it!) it still grossly outperforms all DMR's in my experience, and the DMR's barely offer anything for longrange engagements over other weapon classes while having big drawbacks for closer engagements. It's very much a mixture of a lot of different things, which is why it's furstrating DICE is only doing "feedback loops" on one topic at a time. EVERYTHING IN THIS BLOODY GAME IS CONNECTED

[hard plume]

Ah shotguns, the only gun that angers everyone in every game that has one

[heady condor]

So I download the game months after uninstalling it thinking they have fixed things. Yet when I party up with a friend although he is the host the game puts us in my server. When I try to join his game it takes forever and just crashes in load screen. Way to go!

[velvet sand]

What a time to be alive!

[heady condor]

Same damn issue since beta.

[little dust]

makes me miss the m26 mass days

[fiery shoal]

pc? try joinging through origin, most consistent way for me to join

[heady condor]

Problem is it doesn't let us find a match together. Not with any of my friends on other regions no matter the distance. No matter who hosts, for some reason everyone ends up in my server.

[velvet sand]

Does the game even support cross-region play? >.>

[fiery shoal]

i think i have played with friends from EU when m NA west

[heady condor]

This is the most basic part of any multiplayer I have played for the last 13 years. No matter what genre, game or developer, I can always play with friends on other regions and even different platforms. Yet somehow after months DICE can't get this right. GJ. GG.

[velvet sand]

Don't be sad, that's just how it works out sometimes.

(real though that sucks, and it sucks how the game still feels like it's in an early beta state 6 months post-launch)

[fiery shoal]

just uninstall and play something else

[long lynx]

I’m playing 2042 rn its fun af idk what u guys saying

[uncut bay]

the game is fun, but that doesn't mean it's flawless

[haughty plume]

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP so my game wouldn't start up so I tried to redownload but now I need to buy it again (I had gold edition) what is happening? @coarse falcon

[velvet sand]

contact EA support

[fiery shoal]

its not like him saying its fun means its flawless either

[uncut bay]

well people were pointing out flaws, i'm saying the two aren't mutually exclusive

[quaint bane]

are xp farming maps legal?

i mean if you make it, can you get ban?

[uncut bay]

not as far as i'm aware

[edgy oriole]

you wont get banned plus any farming isnt possible. since "farming" settings dont grant exp/full exp

[fiery shoal]

im calling the cops on you right now

[quaint bane]

FBI open up

[quaint bane]

Are you sure?

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/invade-raid-gif-12542143

[edgy oriole]

yes

[quaint bane]

oh, no, deleting map, faster, faster

[onyx plover]

Is this game worth to come back to yet?

[quaint bane]

ahahahhaaha

[uncut bay]

imo no, wait until season 1 starts and check back then

[hearty flame]

if your issue with 2042 was bugginess then yes. if it was with content then wait for season 1

[quaint bane]

i think when i'll end making BR mode, it will be worth to come back

[onyx plover]

BR games are so over played now though.... EVERYONE has a BR game.....

[uncut bay]

over played? That's a complaint i haven't heard before

[quaint bane]

and if you teleport 60 bots to one point and making 100+ kils in 20 seconds

[near hare]

yeah pass on the BR mode lol its getting lame

[quaint bane]

i'm making it like a map for portal

[edgy oriole]

i dont know portal making too well, but assuming what settings you use you wont get exp or it wont be full exp.

[placid echo]

iirc, XP becomes limited when you decide to have bots on your portal mode

[low timber]

Yup, no bots mean full progression.

[tidal hare]

it makes money thou

those money dont generate themselves

[steel python]

the game is worth buying now?

[tidal hare]

well, what is your regional price

[steel python]

argentina

[quaint bane]

yes, it doesn't gives much xp, but it's funny)

3k xp for 5 minutes

[tidal hare]

idfk what the price is in argentina

[steel python]

5000 pesos

[tidal hare]

which version

and what do you expect from 2042

I personally paid about 80 bucks for gold at launch, i expected a fun game, i got a fun game

[compact sleet]

That’s still a pre good amount though. That’s almost 40k an hour. You’d maybe earn more in an hour or less depending on how long your games are

[tidal hare]

some people expect the second coming of Jesus, they didnt get the second coming of Jesus

[steel python]

i dont sure buy the game

[tidal hare]

is the game on origin access/EA play now?

[quaint bane]

I'm just afraid about large kill streaks

[velvet sand]

No, we expected the game that was marketed to us, which we very much didn't get. Not saying the game isn't enjoyable, but it has very much not lived up to the hype EA/DICE created.

[uncut bay]

most people expected a finished game that would be at least on par with the previous entry to the franchise

[tidal hare]

honestly if it is on EA play just go buy a EA play yearly sub

[tidal hare]

pretty on par with bfv launch if you ask me

[velvet sand]

That's a very unfavorable comparison for DICE.

[tidal hare]

well, i never expected it to be bf4+ 3dlc or bfv+pacific storm, because it is a tradition that dice will fuck it up

[uncut bay]

with hundreds of missing features, a downgraded movement system, no campaign, and dismal performance? I disagree

[tidal hare]

whats the hundreds of missing features, count to more than 100

unless you are talking about reinforcement and such which people shat on then i dont know what to say

i do agree game released on a shit state, but honestly there isn't hundreds of features missing

[hazy ruin]

took months for a damn scoreboard

[uncut bay]

hold on, i can get the list

[velvet sand]

Lots of them like lack of AOW server browser/persistent lobbies, support for more than 4 players to play together, waiting 6 months for a scoreboard and VOIP (freakin lol) then there are the nitpicky lists on reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/qw1mbw/fuck_it_heres_a_list_of_absolutely_everything/

[tidal hare]

honestly speaking

[uncut bay]

perhaps hundreds was a bit overboard, but the list is far longer than it should be

[tidal hare]

i did read that list like months ago, it is more of a rant than anything

let me just copy a few here that is just pretty pointless

[velvet sand]

As I said, it's nitpicky. But there are a lot of fairly important missing features/elements listed as well.

[tidal hare]

yes

i can call from the back of my head maybe 10-20 max features that are not there

but calling hundreds is a hell of a stretch

I personally enjoyed bf2042 a lot more than bfv and bf1, mainly because of setting

i just like modern setting a lot more than pre cold war

I expected at launch is a barebones working game, which aside of revive and respawn bugs, it sort of did

[velvet sand]

Man, the absolute state of gaming and gamers. Expecting "barebones working game" for a full priced AAA entry in a 2-decades long franchise.

[uncut bay]

yikes, no wonder they keep getting away with this

[tidal hare]

well, its dice, and we never got a fully working game in the recent decade other than bf1

[velvet sand]

I sorta expected DICE to improve from title to title, you know...like competent companies do when releasing new interations of products.

[uncut bay]

and they should be held accountable for this, not just "oh well, it happens, just dice things haha"

[tidal hare]

i didn't have high expectations from them when i saw bfv launch lol

[velvet sand]

But I guess that's a "brutal expectation" and we're just toxic for expecting DICE to deliver an actual AAA quality game out of the gate and show that they've learned anything from their past mistakes.

Don't worry though, they've told us they really learned their lesson this time. Trust them, fam.

[tidal hare]

you bet your ass next launch will be shit too

[uncut bay]

they'll learn from this, learn that with good marketing you can sell anything lol

what a shame, to think so many were so excited for this release

[velvet sand]

If it is I hope nobody buys it and DICE leadership get the boot, and they bring on some competent leadership who give a shit about the BF franchise and their community.

Hell, hand the franchise off to Respawn. They're absolutely crushing it on all fronts.

[tidal hare]

you think booted dice leadership will change anything?

[velvet sand]

Yes, actually. Problems like this come from the top down.

[tidal hare]

mate rspn is really fucking up on apex, and dead titanfall2, 1 servers are on the list too

it is more or less a issue of publicly traded companies

[uncut bay]

absolutely, they're not blameless in how this game turned out

[tidal hare]

you have a deadline, and you have to meet it to push out the product, no matter what the fuck the product is

[velvet sand]

Respawn is crushing it dude, raking in mad bank. Their other titles are also all doing well (Jedi: Fallen order was a huge success). I'm sad about Titanfall as well, but they're objectively the best performing EA studio atm. And also, the only EA studio that doesn't use Frostbite for any of their games 🤔

[arctic grove]

Bro What you mean? BfV was great

[tidal hare]

well this game did rank in plenty of bank too

we can even talk about how people praised FH5

[velvet sand]

Failure of early planning. Failure to meet milestones during production. Failure to convince EA leadership that pushing out the game too early (again) would result in poor financial performance and that delaying another quarter or two would have both direct financial and indirect benefits in terms of community/public sentiment.

[tidal hare]

dispite it being a shittier release than FH4 which was a shittier release than FH3

[tidal hare]

investors don't play games, they just see money, game out early = more money

[velvet sand]

No it didn't. Per the EA earnings call, BF5 sales were a "disappointment" and EA has declined to give any sales/revenue numbers.

[tidal hare]

easy as that

[uncut bay]

except that's hardly from the game itself, majority of sales will have been through pre-orders/day one due to how well marketed it was. Not to mention how many were refunded

[velvet sand]

It's not that easy. Yes, investors want to see revenue coming in but that's why companies need to push back against the short-term desires of investors to see big revenue growth each quarter and instead push longer term strategies. Chasing quarterly earnings reports is bad leadership, period.

[uncut bay]

respawn's games have been out for a long time and are still incredibly successful

[tidal hare]

well, you want big investment you get those people that sees nothing but quaterly earnings

[velvet sand]

Titanfall 2 underperformed, but EA sent that out to the slaughterhouse by launching it sandwiched in the middle of BF 1 and whatever CoD came out that year.

[tidal hare]

there is a reason Valve never made a bad game

[velvet sand]

Uh...yeah they have : |

[tidal hare]

because it is a privately owned company and they can take all the time in the world

[uncut bay]

yes TF2 was a shame, i meant more their recent releases

[tidal hare]

it wasn't really bad, it is not good, but not bad

bad is a strong word

[velvet sand]

EA can take more time too, investors don't dictate release timing.

[tidal hare]

they very much can do

[lime knot]

Titan fall 2 never underperformed, it got most awards for the year it released

[tidal hare]

the least thing i want is those shitheads pull out funds

[velvet sand]

They literally do not. The can pressure companies to tick up revenue, but ultimately the company has control over when its product releases.

[hallow cloak]

EA, EA, EA....

[uncut bay]

and it died down rather quickly because it was released between two giants. It could have performed far better had its release been more well timed

[velvet sand]

Financially, it underperformed. Winning awards doesn't actually earn money.

[tidal hare]

honestly if winning awards give big money, i bet companies will finally get together and make a good game

but obviously that aint happening

[uncut bay]

nah, they'd just pay people to give them awards lol

path of least resistance always prevails

[tidal hare]

i thought "fair" is a given

[tidal hare]

it do be like that a lot of the times

[uncut bay]

no such thing as fair in the gaming industry nowadays, even reviews can hardly be trusted anymore

[tidal hare]

not even gaming industry, majority of other industries are in the same boat or worse

it is just how it is

[edgy oriole]

ive never trusted reviews. i gotta see gameplay if anything. nobodies words will work on me.

[uncut bay]

oh yeah, reviews without gameplay are worthless to me

[tidal hare]

i just buy the game that i think would be fun

[hearty flame]

Gotta remember how well 2042 and 2077 scored and then look at their initial reception

[tidal hare]

i am correct most of the times

2077 scored pretty well and i would argue there is a reason it scored well

it's a good game, but a very buggy game

[velvet sand]

Ain't nobody got paid for a good score. Outlets are usually very much pressured to give "big, super hyped games" good scores out of fear of backlash. Like that time Eurogamer gave Uncharted 3 an 8/10 and their readers were sending in death threats because the score was too low : |

[uncut bay]

the issue with 2077 is that it was decent if you ignored all the promises and bugs. There is a gem hidden under all of those problems, and it's a damn shame they spoiled it

[hearty flame]

I mean I liked 2077 too but the console ports alone shouldve killed all the 10/10s

[tidal hare]

well they reviewed on pc

[edgy oriole]

i ended up buying it release day (watched gameplay and thought it wasnt too bad) put around 20 hours and got bored of it. i may install it again soon but prolly not.

[tidal hare]

you don't get the magic of reviewing on the least performing platforms

[velvet sand]

There's a reason that CDPR lied about the "last-gen" console versions of the game throughout the hype cycle and never showed off any footage for it : |

[hearty flame]

If you skip the random ncpd fights and some side qursts the stories are really cool

[uncut bay]

i also bought it release day, i had a 1060 at the time and played about 40 hours at 40fps in the first week or so. Waited for about a year and then finished the story and all side quests (except one because a bug prevented me from doing it lol)

[tidal hare]

game built up so many feature and graphical shit and last gen literally could not handle lol
talking about feature creep

2018 demo version probably works stellar fine on last gen console

i personally didn't encounter any bugs except the 8mb saving limit issue

which was not a bug, more of a oversight that fucks people over

[hearty flame]

I think the only bugs I saw were ai bugs and some performance issues

[tidal hare]

granted i have a higher than average pc to run the game (3600x 2070super)

[uncut bay]

i had quite a few, mostly visual and audio bugs, but also sometimes missions not working, being locked out of a room, car being sent flying, etc

[tidal hare]

i mean visual glitches here and there are kinda expected on modern games

like ui not going away or some sort

[uncut bay]

i'd agree, but they were far more common in 2077 than any game in recent memory

[tidal hare]

2077 ui was a lot more artistically driven and had a ton of overlay

and it makes a ton of issues more present than other games

[uncut bay]

yeah i found the ui quite annoying honestly, a bit too intrusive

[hearty flame]

It's lore inclusive coz we got cyber eyes and they're just bugging out lol

[uncut bay]

[tidal hare]

like when you do certain stuff with timing just right, congrats you fucked yourself and have half a screen got a massive ui that wont go away

[tidal hare]

it can explain everything, maybe 2077 is just a dream, and our brain was glitching heavily

there was no johnny silverhand, there was no night city

its just a simulation

[hearty flame]

Or we died on the surgery table early on and it's all just the flashes of our brain going dark

[uncut bay]

BO3 flashbacks

god i hated that campaign, what a way to ruin a trilogy

[tidal hare]

lmao

[uncut bay]

though i did like the gore, that's something

[tidal hare]

honestly speaking, we will probably get more and more buggy games down the line as tech and engine tech advances

[uncut bay]

eh, i'd hope not

[tidal hare]

because you have more and more variables and stuff and you can't just predict them with a QA team

games were a lot more simpler back then

[velvet sand]

From bad/rushed development cycles, sure. That's the biggest source of the problems for games nowadays, and there are plenty that ship in fantastic quality without tons of bugs (and some even without any crunch!)

[tidal hare]

i mean

most games i played recently i all encountered at least some bugs here and there

simpler the game is, the less chance you would get bugs

we are humans and we aren't exactly the smartest and have the best logic

oh great speaking of bugs windows is giving me a shit time

aint that amazing

[vivid nacelle]

the bug where you cant exit the MAV is still present

[tidal hare]

you need to change seat and try exit rapidly

and hope game lets you out, which it mostly does within 10-20sec

[velvet sand]

Don't worry, the April bugfix patch will...wait a second : |

[uncut bay]

happens to me in helicopters, got me killed once because the incoming missile decided to not wait 10-20s for me to jump out

[hearty flame]

You'll have to see if you can get dices attention and hope it makes it to the May patch

[tidal hare]

never happened to me on heli that is not hind/condor

but i do rarely bail my plane

[velvet sand]

"get DICE's attention" hahaha that's a good one.

[tidal hare]

those things are probs pretty low on priority list

because i don't think there is a way to 100% replicate the bug?

[uncut bay]

there probably is, it's just complicated

[tidal hare]

it just happens when game decides to

[uncut bay]

good luck to QA when they decide to tackle it

[tidal hare]

yeah, thats the problem

those stuff that are seemingly random are the most pain in the ass for QA team

[hearty flame]

I mean they're here.... Sometimes. I bet they're on Twitter a lot. Maybe the forums

[velvet sand]

Barely anywhere, mostly posting fluff and Zoolander memes because I suppose that's "Good Community Management(TM)" in the rare occasion they post in official channels.

[hearty flame]

With the amount of bugs 2042 launched with I don't think there's much of a qa team

[tidal hare]

there is always a QA team, it is just the team is big enough or not, in this case, certainly not

[hearty flame]

They're semiactive on the ea forums from what I saw

[velvet sand]

There absolutely likely is. QA gets too much hate for things that aren't their fault. QA can painstakingly report every single bug in the game, can report the replication process and proposed fixes for every single bug...but it's up to the development team leads/producers to determine which bugs they actually need to fix for an update and which bugs can be held on the back-burner for later since they're non-critical.

[uncut bay]

oh yeah, if the game didn't go through QA you would KNOW

[velvet sand]

Average of maybe 1, largely meaningless post per day.

[uncut bay]

QA's work is severely overlooked

[tidal hare]

at least the game was in a semi playable state lol

[hearty flame]

Ya that's the unfortunate reality of being qa. Gotta hope people act on your recommendation

[tidal hare]

QA's job is the replicate and report the bug, and it is for dev team to fix whats highest on priority

which most game breaking bugs are fixed i think?
qol is still a shitshow

[velvet sand]

STill bugs with folks falling under maps and invisible players and the vehicle existing, but they seem less common at least. Progress!

[hearty flame]

Ui transparency got a lookover so there's that for qol

[onyx plover]

I can never get aiming down in this game I don't know hwy.... like I watch streamers and they have absolutely 0 recoil... me I look like its my first time shooting a gun

[tidal hare]

we are getting somewhere at least

[tidal hare]

what gun are you using, what attatchments are you using

unless you are using pkp then it is literally you didnt pull down hard enough

[near hare]

recoil is so easy to control in here lol

[hearty flame]

Iirc there's software out there that can auto mitigate recoil for several games. Could try that

[tidal hare]

i mean, all the guns in the game that is not pkp are pretty easily managable

[uncut bay]

recoil is manageable for the most part but bullet spread is still messing me up

thankfully not anywhere near as bad as launch

[tidal hare]

spread is annoying a shell, bullet should go to where i aim at

[hearty flame]

I'm sad they left behind vs gunplay

[uncut bay]

yeah lol, my bullets should not be having 1 metre separation at 10m distance

[tidal hare]

but like, there are some people that want bf3 suppression back

[near hare]

bruh what guns are you using for that lol

[uncut bay]

literally all of them, it's inconsistent which makes it even worse. Sometimes i can beam people, other times my bullets decide to chase a butterfly

[tidal hare]

so yeah

[tidal hare]

on pkp it is very significant

vector too

[onyx plover]

I'm using the M5A3

[near hare]

yes but hes talking all guns, i do not have any of these issues lol

[uncut bay]

lucky you

[tidal hare]

how tf you can't manage your recoil on M5

[near hare]

i mean it sounds like a skill issue rn, not trying to be a dick

but these guns are easy to control

[uncut bay]

a skill issue that bullets don't go where i aim? I assure you, it's nothing to do with my recoil management

[tidal hare]

if you are on controller, higher your sens

if you are on mnk, just pull down more

[tidal hare]

he is talking about the other guy that can't control the m5 recoil

[uncut bay]

oh my bad then

[tidal hare]

im glad they reduced the spread, but honestly they should just remove it

they can make the gun more recoil heavy but have no spread and i wont care

at least i know it is me who is the issue not the game deciding letting me hit or not

[uncut bay]

i agree, artificial difficulty does nothing to improve gameplay

my ability to kill someone should be determined by my skill, not rng

[tidal hare]

yes

kinda glad they removed suppression ngl

the 10 pity points i was getting in bfv when im sniping is infuriating as hell

[uncut bay]

yeah suppression was horrible. Whoever started firing first was almost guaranteed to win

[tidal hare]

that too

[onyx plover]

I think its cause I play COD so much.... i'm not used to recoil

[heavy linden]

m5 feels so much easier to control after update for me

[uncut bay]

oh yeah coming from cod i can understand. I had trouble too

[tidal hare]

yeah you kinda need to actually pull down in the game

pkp still have spread issue, now with high recoil it is really annoying

[arctic grove]

pkp is a machine gun so recoil is expected

[tidal hare]

it is very significant compared to other guns in the game

i do understand why, but holy shit i was not used to it the first game after coming back

the first burst

i was trying to control it like i did around launch, ngl, first 10 bullets went 45 degree to the sky

[civic mason]

i know AoW needs work, but how poppin' is portal?

[velvet sand]

Browser is mostly hardcore games. Featured modes are very hit or miss in terms of getting into actually full matches.

More often than not I pop into a featured Portal mode that's barely half full : /

[hexed mango]

not too many full full servers, but it’s fun and i can only think of where it will continue to go

[velvet sand]

I'm hopeful that Ripple will really take the reigns with it and turn it into something special. But we have no clue what's happening with the future of the mode...or really the future of 2042 in general since DICE doesn't communicate.

Still holding out hope we'll hear from Vince since he took over lead on the franchise last year...

[civic mason]

i don't get why people just fucked off since AoW was bad at launch

i feel like it would've made more sense to just play portal?

[velvet sand]

Because the bugs hit both modes, and Portal fell off quickly when full-XP was removed.

[civic mason]

esp since you can still progress in it

[edgy oriole]

the whole game was pretty bad at launch not aow.

[velvet sand]

We don't acknowledge Hazard Zone existing collectively, apparently : P

[arctic grove]

launch Portal gun spread

[hearty flame]

launch spread in general. i remember that clip of a pkp shooting into a crowd of like 15 and only getting hitmarkers

[civic mason]

fair enough

Either way i still think Portal could save this game, we just need more people to realize that it exists

cuz idk, i think portal is good

[velvet sand]

It can be. But with a low population and it still being an "alternate mode" with most focus from DICE still put on AOW that's not changing anytime soon. Which is a shame, because Portal could be the "good part" of the game while they spend the next year finishing core development on AOW and making it good.

[hearty flame]

Theres no reason why portal couldnt be good because it and aow are being worked on by different studios unless stockholm has poached devs from la to help them save aow

[velvet sand]

I don't know if Ripple (the LA studio) is even still working on Portal proper or if they've moved to other projects.

And we haven't heard anything because again...10/10 communication from DICE.

[fiery shoal]

you think you are owed communication regarding who is working on what?

[velvet sand]

I think if they want to restore any trust the community has in them and in the future of this game that they'd maybe want to communicate about what's going on with it and what the future holds. You know, something like a roadmap that's fairly industry standard, especially for games that launch like shit and need a lot of work done to improve them?

[arctic grove]

There’s a certain amount of info dice should reveal but not communicate virtually everything

[hearty flame]

i think they are because people were asking some ripple devs portal questions and they said they are still doing portal stuff

[velvet sand]

You know...act like a AAA studio with hundreds of people working on the game following the launch of a "AAA game" that had 3-4 studios all working on it.

[fiery shoal]

sure, expect a roadmap.. but you were wanting to know what teams are working on what.. thats just ridiculous

[velvet sand]

Wanting to know if Portal is still being actively supported by the studio behind it vs. abandoned is a "brutal expectation"?

[fiery shoal]

stop being a little meme kid and be reasonable

[velvet sand]

I am. I paid for a AAA game and got half-finished garbage. DICE promised improved communication and have delivered fuckall on that front.

[hearty flame]

i mean because we should be getting portal maps in the seasons means that ripple is still doing portal stuff

[wide shore]

If I had a dollar for every time “brutal expectations” has been misquoted here

[velvet sand]

I want the game DICE and EA promised and marketed to us, and until then I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some communication from DICE to show that they haven't functionally abandoned the game. "BUT BIG APRIL PATCH!" yes, the only meaningful patch in 4 months of the year.

[fiery shoal]

nah youre not, you pulling out dramatic phrasing and standard cop out "brutal expectations" shit even though no one said that proves otherwise

youre a consumer to a product, you were owed a product, and you got it, because its not the product you wanted doesnt mean you are owed anything else

[edgy oriole]

judging by conversation and blocked message is showing up. i did the right call.

[fiery shoal]

dudes just being unreasonable and thinking its justified because he can stand behind the hate band wagon

[velvet sand]

I did not recieive the product marketed to me. I received a half-finished, poorly designed, buggy, underwhelming product that in no way shape represents the product marketed in terms of quality. Communication is pretty standard in modern gaming, so I guess I'm unreasonable for expecting DICE, a AAA studio, for following industry-standard practices.

[hexed mango]

ok ima just say a few things:

1. Ripple are the people developing portal, so they are already in charge of that for the most part
2. Dice communicates quite a bit. I mean pay attention to the devs on twitter, their coms, etc
   -> if for communication you mean like patch notes, they dont obviously communicate those every day cause i mean they dont have patches every day
   -> Their forums have a lot of communication aswell, and i would hardly confirm the point of saying they "don't communicate", cause on the standards of a AAA they are doing a fairly standard job.
3. I mean portal is already something special, i just meant that in the future they would continue adding to it, with games, with the custom editor, etc.

But i mean its not like you care for my opinion anyways

[velvet sand]

Needing to lurk 4 CM's and 3-5 developers Twitter replies is not good communication.

[fiery shoal]

this has been stated and discussed before, in terms of what dice actually said they would deliver and what was marketted, theres really nothing that they lied about...

[arctic grove]

Yeah they’re always talking on ea forums

[velvet sand]

No they're not...I'm on there daily. There's on average a post a day (usually no posts, sometimes a few posts a day), and most of the posts aren't really communicating anything. Posting Zoolander memes isn't communication. It's fun, sure, but it doesn't tell us anything about what's happening with the game.

[fiery shoal]

id love to see any company that has publically stated what group of people are working on what part of their game... very rare scenario and likely just doesnt happen because its a stupid expectation

[hexed mango]

then you are just not worthy of receiving your so called communication.
I am purely just putting facts to your demands.

|| beggars cant be choosers. ||

[hexed mango]

bf2042 credits go br

[velvet sand]

Man, I guess "Good communication" means fractured posts across personal Twitter accounts of 12 people so you have to sift through all their personal posts.

[fiery shoal]

show me another studio that publicly states what part of a game people work on...

[velvet sand]

Show me another studio in the situation DICE is in right now.

[arctic grove]

Except for when we got confirmation through them for a few pretty good updates regarding the future of the game, such as confirmation that end of round screen with the quotes will receive an update to style and tone in a future update, that bothered a lot of people. I can’t remember others right now, and I could be wrong and they don’t really speak on there, if anyone could confirm though other things they’ve mentioned through the forums then that’s much appreciated

[fiery shoal]

if this is your standard for good communication, 99.99% of studios have shit communication by your logic

[wide shore]

CD Projekt Red

[hexed mango]

the definition can be subjective because you are emphasizing it with "good"

what defines "good" in this context,
is it the fact that they at all listen to remarks made by the community, and respond to them as they do in #game-news with updates that sufficiently meet expectations?
That's what i think.

[fiery shoal]

hello games was in this situation (no mans sky)

[hexed mango]

bethesda lel

[fiery shoal]

so yea.. a lot of studios...

[hexed mango]

microsoft (343)

[wide shore]

DICE in 2013 after the launch of BF4

[fiery shoal]

nice cop out, and goal post change, and of course you cant provide what i asked for either...

[hearty flame]

they just mentioned working on letting people get missed weeklies. but aside from that they dont communicate a lot on the forums. what we're seeing is the "ea posted" of old comms on popular threads

[civic mason]

Wait

[hexed mango]

dice after bfv...

"HiStoRICAl AcCuRaCy!"

[fiery shoal]

ITT more people prove they think they can say the stupidest shit just because "lul 2042 bad"

[velvet sand]

Sweet, so we're still on "DICE is repeating the same mistakes from a decade ago". I guess I'm in the minority here so I'll just shut up on this for a while. Extraordinary circumstances usually require extraordinary responses (like what Squeenix did with FFXIV and its reboot), but I guess that's unreasonable.

[civic mason]

Is someone legit arguing here that dice and ea has good communication?

[edgy oriole]

they better not re-release my super special rare hind skin that was only available for ~24 hours.

[fiery shoal]

yea ignore the 3 other examples people put forth, cherry picking much?

[hexed mango]

same... they better not

it is too cool to bring back

[hearty flame]

lol i remember in V when they released a whole bunch of early tank skins for a few hours before they took them from the store

[fiery shoal]

no, maybe read the conversation before chiming in

[velvet sand]

I'm responding to one vs. spamming chat since apparently got upset when I was responding to multiple folks on the same topic. I guess no matter what, someone is mad.

[hexed mango]

why would they? if they missed a weekly, then they should have just been better.

[hearty flame]

Its fomo and I agree with decreasing fomo.

[arctic grove]

Yeah, nobody is defending it, it’s just been a useful source for some communication regarding the game. It’s not a lot, but without it the situation would just be a bit worst

[fiery shoal]

if by "minority" you mean people that cant use basic logic and be reasonable? then yea...

[civic mason]

I was gone for 5 minutes and there are 50 new messages, that ain't happening Cheif

All I know is that as a consumer, there is 0 reason to defend a Triple A multi billion dollar company

[hearty flame]

ya imagine defending ea lol

[arctic grove]

Ubisoft

[civic mason]

You get shit all outta doing so except mediocre products and shit support

[fiery shoal]

calling out people being unreasonable and/or straight up lying isnt defending ea/2042/dice though...

[plucky pebble]

but you got the badge tho

[fiery shoal]

the badge?

[civic mason]

There's nothing unreasonable about expressing disdain for how shit things have been for this game

[fiery shoal]

thats not whats going on though...

you literally said you werent going to read the messages pertaining to this topic, and then still comment like you know whats going on?

[civic mason]

Then explain what's going on

You can do so in 2 sentences

Please educate da Carb

[fiery shoal]

edge wants more communication than any other studio has ever provided, but acts like its normal and is throwing a fit because we pointed that out

[hearty flame]

A guy expecting communications from ea/dice/ripple

[fiery shoal]

yes 2042 sucks, ive had it uninstalled for some 3-4 months now, but thats not the topic at all

[plucky pebble]

lmao

[fiery shoal]

expecting minute details about the studios inner workings, something no other studio has done before

[hearty flame]

depends on how you define minute because I can think of an example

[civic mason]

Simply because other studios are shit at communication doesn't excuse dice's silence. I know you weren't trying to excuse it, but I don't see why you felt the need to pipe up about it in the first place

[quaint bane]

plz, don't be so haters of bf 2042. They have good portal mode. Yes it doesn't cost 80$, but it's not so bad

[civic mason]

It sounds like you're tone policing

[arctic grove]

Let’s see if I can survive without getting C5 droned while playing armor

[fiery shoal]

not reporting exactly who is working on what within your studio is not "shit communication" for ANY studio...

[civic mason]

Nyoom and boom

[velvet sand]

shorter drone range, so you may be able to see those caspers

[plucky pebble]

Digital Extremes does it just because DICE doesnt even know what to do doesnt mean nobody does it

[civic mason]

I don't expect that level of detail, but a basic update on whatever road map they have on this game would be more than enough

If dice doesn't have the resources to make a simple road map, that is majorly concerning

[velvet sand]

Just saying you're way overthinking this. Imagine how "hard" a simple blogpost detailing "Here at DICE we're working on X Y and Z and here's when you can expect us to share more on those topics. For Portal mode Ripple Effect is doing fantastic work, and here's a sneak peak at some of what you can look forward to from our team in LA." Most of the time...it's really that simple.

[fiery shoal]

thats literally what edge wanted, he wants to know who is working on what, i said myself that a basic roadmap is necessary

[fiery shoal]

who the frick is digital extremes? and im sure there are some studios that report this, but its not the norm like edge suggests it is

[hearty flame]

Id think that at this point their plans are in enough flux that they cant make a good roadmap to give out

[velvet sand]

(again, because Hazard Zone doesn't exist : | )

[civic mason]

I think your misunderstanding his point

[fiery shoal]

yes.. typing words is easy.. doesnt mean that you are owed that or anything less than providing that information is "shit communication"

[velvet sand]

Warframe developers.

[plucky pebble]

i mean even iD software does it lmao

[velvet sand]

We're not "owed" any communication at all to begin with, this is a strawman argument you keep making.

[fiery shoal]

warframe is very open, and thats nice, if iD does that then good on them, but we have a whopping list of 2 devs for this example...

[hearty flame]

ff14 is pretty open about their comms

[velvet sand]

Ever played any MMO's? More communication is prety common for many MMO's. How about other live-service games like Apex? Destiny 2? All have more communications and roadmaps etc.

[fiery shoal]

per your wording not providing that information is bad communication, which is just a lie

[plucky pebble]

stop arguing he has the i suck dice color badge

[velvet sand]

You just can't let that strawman go, dude. I don't know why, but I won't stop you if you're emotionally attached to it.

[hearty flame]

is that what you meant by badge? cant you get that from being a discord booster too?

[fiery shoal]

ah i thought you were talking about regular role before.. you literally get this automatically if you type here enough...

[plucky pebble]

the brown one no

[fiery shoal]

you literally have no idea what youre talking about...

[plucky pebble]

just like you with defending the devs xD

[fiery shoal]

regular and server booster pick one of three colors...

[wise zodiac]

Knock it off, man.

[plucky pebble]

why would you boost this server tho

[fiery shoal]

my god... i have regular... the thing you get just for typing here enough

[velvet sand]

We're having a difference of opinion, and I think we're both talking past each other rather than to each other. Simple as that, chillax.

[fiery shoal]

its literally an automated role you get for not breaking rules and typing here and there...

[cedar turtle]

I'm just thinking about those beans

[wise zodiac]

!!regular

[tender pendant]

The Regular role is earned by users automatically who are active in chat and follow the server rules. With this role you can post/embed images, use some bot commands, and change what color you appear in chat.

[plucky pebble]

difference in opinion yeah but when you know for sure that opinion is wrong then what

[velvet sand]

You live with the fact that people have different opinions and that's fine.

[plucky pebble]

and about the color role its a joke not that i want to fight

[cedar turtle]

It'd be fun if after enough time on this Discord they would allow refund.

[fiery shoal]

.. what

[plucky pebble]

bout to reply every message

[cedar turtle]

Itd be like Steam Squid Games

[civic mason]

🤨

[sleek latch]

Alright. Stop the meaningless chat.

[cedar turtle]

You got it! I'll be sure to put some more thought into my next message.

[plucky pebble]

no 😡

[cedar turtle]

Has anyone tried BF2042 on Steam Deck?

[civic mason]

I just want this game to be better, alotta us do, but I honestly don't know if Dice is up to that task. Seems more likely EA is just gonna say fuck it and make a new BF game

[drifting kettle]

ye

[civic mason]

And so it goes.

[onyx plover]

I ❤️ being the only medic in the game

[plucky pebble]

what if they stopped working on new game till they know for sure 2042 is in a good state

[hearty flame]

if V is anything to go off of, dice will do an OK job then release a swangsong expac and then end support after doing something really stupid like a second ttk change

[onyx plover]

I had 43 revives..... jeeeees

[cedar turtle]

That's a lotta saves

[fiery shoal]

honestly, making a new game would be my ideal scenario

[plucky pebble]

they already done it so its expected that they will do the same

[fervent grotto]

So if I’ve ever been muted I can’t get it?

[velvet sand]

I'd be 100% cool if they moved on and simply granted owners of 2042 the next game for free. Won't happen, but man it'd be nice. Make it a proper 2142 reboot/sequel and go further into the future!

[hearty flame]

that was with a team that seemed to know that they were doing though. current dice with their brain drain? i dunno bout that

[cedar turtle]

They should patch 2042 up a little more then make it free to play to get more players on

[fiery shoal]

you can still get it i think, idk the exact rules, but ive been muted and i have the role

[plucky pebble]

but first the refund tho

[cedar turtle]

That'll never happen.

[wise zodiac]

It's automatically given.

[velvet sand]

Won't happen. But if they gave owners a nice bundle of goodies with the transition (common for games going F2P to give bundles to folks that purchased it before the transition) I'm fine with that.

[cedar turtle]

Best thing to do next time is try it out on EAPlay or something instead of buying.

[plucky pebble]

if we werent talking about dice maybe that would happen

[velvet sand]

At least it sounds like things are going well with the studio Marcus is building, he's bringing on some talent from his last studio so they can start very early development.

[onyx plover]

How can the Recoilless M5 lock onto targets?

[velvet sand]

Someone needs to use the SOFLAM to lock onto aircraft for the M5 users.

[onyx plover]

Ooooohhhh

[plucky pebble]

whats his last studio?

[velvet sand]

Originally he's got bigtime Halo cred, but he made Disintegration afterwards (which didn't perform well, sadly)

[drifting kettle]

Oh yeah where’s Marcus Lehto? I thought he was supposed to be working on 2042 but we haven’t heard anything for a while from him.

[arctic grove]

There needs to be an autokick for people who teamkill in battlefield hardcore... 20 ppl just got killed by the same dude from a attack helicopter and hes still flying around
(that guy was our teammate)

[plucky pebble]

considering how stale the halo series has been the last years....

[velvet sand]

He's not. He's in charge of BF narrative and apparently is providing feedback/direction for things like the "tone" of cosmetics and maps moving forward. But his primary job is building a new studio to handle a narrative entry for BF2042 focused on specialists (like a campaign)

[velvet sand]

He left Halo/Bungie in like 2012, so it's been quit a while since he was involved in the franchise.

[plucky pebble]

what worries me more is vince zampella

[drifting kettle]

has he done anything since he became director for battlefield?

[velvet sand]

Why? He's in a management role, not a development role. So his history with more twitchy FPS like CoD/TF doesn't matter as much. He's also shown that he's capable of building multiple successful studios (Infinity Ward and Respawn) and franchises (Call of Duty, Titanfall, Apex Legends). And that's his job as BF director.

My only concern is that he's doing like 4-5 jobs. Running Respawn and the 4-5 live/in development games, plus running Ripple Effect (apparently), plus now being in charge of the BF franchise is like...a lot of work.

[velvet sand]

Nope. I'm still holding out hope we get some kind of blog post from him at some point.

[plucky pebble]

i heard he was going to become head of the battlefield not just management

[velvet sand]

He is in charge of the BF franchise. But that's more a managerial than a creative role in general.

As in like, he's not in there designing maps and stuff.

[hearty flame]

i mean id rather have the guy behind cod and titanfall behind bf than the candycrush guy

[velvet sand]

Honestly...the whole candy crush thing shouldn't have mattered. Again, it's a "you're running a studio, not creating games" role so the games they've worked on previously can matter, but aren't a dealmaker/breaker. The more important element is their ability to successfully lead studios that create successful products and grow their userbase/revenue.

[plucky pebble]

can we just get new blood or maybe some old devs but from other franchises

[hearty flame]

also lol what they hell kinda narrative can they make for 2042? cutscenes? cuz we have no singleplayer and nothing to get invested with

[chilly oak]

May update when and what even is it

[hearty flame]

i mean if you want veteran devs, ripple has more former dice employees than dice does

[velvet sand]

Like, a campaign. But the "narrative" was theoretically supposed to be delivered through the specialist/maps in-game, and IIRC maps were supposed to change over time to reflect the evolving narrative. No clue if that's still in the plans though, since the maps and specialists so far are almost completely devoid of narrative outside of the bio cards that nboody reads.

[plucky pebble]

idk get the old devs that left blizzard

[hearty flame]

right but candycrush dudes understanding of creaintg a userbase for 2042 is different than how zampella would create a userbase for 2042

[velvet sand]

They don't have to "create" a userbase for a franchise that's been running for 2 decades and already has an existing userbase : P

[hearty flame]

not much overlap id think between blizzard and dice/ripple

[plucky pebble]

if zampella give us the titanfall movement i will not complain tho

[hearty flame]

well maintain/expand then

[velvet sand]

Plus, "Former Blizzard employee" doesn't have the same credibility it used to...and honestly was vastly oversold to begin with.

[hearty flame]

as long as he lets me curve kraber shots with the grav star ill be all set lol

[plucky pebble]

the ones that left when they SA started to begin

[velvet sand]

It's...complicated. Not just on the studio lead, it's a mixture of studio leadership in general, project/game leads, likely folks at EA etc.

[hearty flame]

sure but just saying that philosophies and such can direct how they manage the studio

[plucky pebble]

well if your game looks that not even the devs that made the game played it i guess its actually complicated

[hearty flame]

lol lol anthem devs realizing theyre making a looter shooter on the e3 reveal

[chilly oak]

Mabye the war torn map thing is actually part of lore, not from player feedback lol

[hearty flame]

having maps change as lore does would be cool but i think players would rather have new maps

[cedar turtle]

What if Elon buys Dice 🤌

[chilly oak]

No

Dice is fine, maybe a bit slow but fine

[plucky pebble]

or actually destruction with cover not just little sqaure houses that gets destroyed

[chilly oak]

"Destruction with cover"

[hearty flame]

ya having lots of buildings have little to no destruction is a stupid move from dice

[cedar turtle]

What if we met at C and kissed?

[plucky pebble]

ground holes of explosions but ok you dont understand

[plucky pebble]

[hearty flame]

what if they used the vehicle call in system to let people call in prefabbed cover like walls, towers, or small rooms

[edgy oriole]

i hid in a ground hole in orbital yesterday. (i think it was orbital)

[fallen yarrow]

What if there was a way to build up fortifications and cover in pre-determined spots around the flags?

[plucky pebble]

bfv fortnite collab 😮

[velvet sand]

You mean...like BFV? : 3

[chilly oak]

Do u not get the bug where when u prone in a crater it pushed u forward

[chilly oak]

Irish

[velvet sand]

pushes you around, or forces you to slide...prone is really buggy still : /

[edgy oriole]

a few months ago but i thought they fixed that.

[fallen yarrow]

Lol no

[chilly oak]

Ikr

[chilly oak]

I've only had it happen recently

[fallen yarrow]

Irish's cover is completely useless

[velvet sand]

very much still in the game. I regularly run into it and keep getting mad every time I go prone out of reflex, only to realize that I'm not on perfectly flat ground so the game is causing my character to move back and forth : |

[fallen yarrow]

It buys you a few extra seconds to live, but that's it

[chilly oak]

I'm saying that's why they won't add it, it will invalidate Irish

[edgy oriole]

agree. 2 trophy system is way more valuable

[fallen yarrow]

Outside of using it to cheese elevators.

[chilly oak]

Feel your pain

[plucky pebble]

nah its actually kind of stupid since used to tank rockets

[tranquil turtle]

it's not bad for blocking bullets

[fallen yarrow]

You still die to splash damage, or like I said...it buys you a few extra seconds to live

It does not substitute BFV's fortifications

[tranquil turtle]

put down a cover and a trophy system

[plucky pebble]

that is true but maybe just put more compunds in between

[cedar turtle]

I need a revive. Help

[elder patrol]

No, suffer

[arctic grove]

I’ll revive someone else

[wise zodiac]

Not me, I have a DNR.

[quick egret]

Thoughts on hardcore mode?

[arctic grove]

Revive him

[elder patrol]

No

[drowsy sapphire]

No

[arctic grove]

Yes

[elder patrol]

No

[drowsy sapphire]

No

[elder patrol]

Spaghetti

[drowsy sapphire]

Spaghetti

[wise zodiac]

Spaghetti

[drowsy sapphire]

now that... is a yes

[hexed mango]

👀 😵

[proud hare]

Someone help me with a xbox controller settings it doesn't feel right I want it to feel linear

[compact sleet]

Spaghetti

[elder patrol]

Spaghetti

[feral locust]

Spaghetti

[compact sleet]

Actually a top tier food tho

[cedar turtle]

spaghetti is for tough guys

[elder patrol]

We still are not gonna revive you tho

[arctic grove]

hostiles have seized alpha 2

[compact sleet]

Bfv’s fortification system was awesome

[gray comet]

I’m actually pleasantly surprised with the new update. Definitely feels more like what I expected from the game, I like it!

[drowsy sapphire]

Spaghetti

[velvet sand]

Ravioli

[elder patrol]

Spaghetti

[full jetty]

Do weeklies reset tomorrow night?

[elder patrol]

Spaghetti

[compact sleet]

Anyone know any entertaining Russian YouTubers that actively speak Russian but sometimes English?

Tryna learn Russian but since I live in Canada I don’t hear any of the words. Thinking that listening to Russian will help

[plucky pebble]

With this going on i dont theres russian streamers right now

[cedar turtle]

I kind of wish RUS in BF2042 would get replaced with something else.

[gray comet]

China makes more sense IMHO

But the Russians have way cooler equipment IMO. Su-57 > J-20/31.

[sinful ore]

can't wait weakened high buildings to be collapsed by tornado in bf2042

[gray comet]

And I feel china would be a less popular team

[gray comet]

If there were a way to do that…

Imagine orbital or hourglass! Only issue would be the tornados would need a set path, no randomness, so that way the destruction would make sense.

[sinful ore]

man levolution in orbital is already awesome

[gray comet]

Orbital is way under appreciated

I mean its the only map I’ve ever played on where I’m having a dogfight in an F-35, flying past an exploding ESA rocket, avoiding a tornado

More action doesnt always equal better but that recipe worked well for that map.

[tepid agate]

I went on yesterday and saw these Condors being used so much. They have a good amount of health too, it's like the just hover over a location, get kills then as soon as 1 rocket hits it speed boosts away to heal. Keep doing this cycle

[radiant prism]

@ionic saddle Ultimately, not as bad as it could be. The game still has a long way to go, but this most recent has REALLY improved the state of the game. For the most part, actual gameplay is free of any debilitating bugs that were present in previous patches, so the only real thing that needs addressing now is content, which hopefully should get underway here in the next month or so-ish. Balance has also shifted a bit, mainly in terms of vehicles, mostly for the better. Overall, obviously not perfect, but its genuinely starting to feel really good and gives me a lot of hope for the future

[radiant prism]

Yeah, the Condor and Hind are huge now that the nightbird has been moved to the attack category. Its good that the dominant air power now actually requires a degree of teamwork to be even remotely powerful and has really shifted the dynamic in a lot of modes

[tepid agate]

Yes, I agree. I like the switch that it requires more elements of team work as that's what battlefield should be all about.

On the other hand, they are so powerful because of their health and massive cannon on the front.

I think for more balance of them being more of a "transport" vehicle, they should just have those 2 massive mini guns in the side is enough.

[arctic grove]

I’m pretty sure BF4 transports only had 2 miniguns on the side

[arctic grove]

China would straight up ban 2042 if the faction was in the game

[radiant prism]

Yeah, but the cannon does give it a bit of much needed oomph. Just miniguns would still be decently powerful, but the cannon is what largely makes transports a threat. Removing them removes their ability to deal with just about any other vehicle in the game, armored ones at least.

[tepid agate]

Yes they did. It made the vehicle feel more like a *transport" vehicle because it never had these powerful cannons on the front which wipes out infanty and also destroys vehicles

[radiant prism]

Yeah, but they were much more in the transport role than an actual gunship role that the Condor and Hind fill.

Those transport Helos clear role in BF4 was to move infantry around, the miniguns being much more for self defence than any sort of real practical CAS. The Hind and Condor, hold a similar role, but are also clearly much more offensively capable, fitting them into that gunship role

[arctic grove]

im started to enjoy this game once again

[tepid agate]

Because of this hover, wipe out, accelerate away and heal cycle, it's actually feeling more powerful/dominant that those big attack choppers

[arctic grove]

this game is awesome

[tepid agate]

I just prefer it to fall more under the class of a transport than a gunship

I'm sure if you have people using it with team work/ like 2 repair tourches like I remember people did for the mini attack helicopter on BF4.... People could easily rack up 70+ kills in a fan only using a "transport" vehicle

[radiant prism]

I guess its down to personal preference. Without it though, there fails to be a true dominant air power in the game. For a while, that was the nightbird, but it proved much too independent and mobile to truly be balanced.

It takes teamwork to successfully use a Condor/Hind, and it takes teamwork to take one out. That's how it should be for a vehicle of that type, if you ask me.

[tepid agate]

I know but it deserves a new title than "transport" it cleans out infanty and can destroy tanks

[radiant prism]

I think that's pretty much left over as a blanket term when it was placed in the same category as the little bird

[tepid agate]

The transport Heli in before soul purpose and feel was for transport, to get you and teammates to further objectives in the map. With additional miniguns to fight off enemies

This condor and hind, the roles are reversed with that powerful cannon on the front

Yeah helibird is definitely in the right place now

[radiant prism]

Thing is, it still serves as a major transport implement, just with the additional perk of being able to serve in that gunship role in some capacity. It's become crucial to Breakthrough and becomes a major mobile spawnpoint

[tepid agate]

Yes, it still servers a big form of transport and spawn point, don't get me wrong, it's just got such high health and attack because bof the cannon, that people can get more kills in a game using a "transport" vehicle than an attack vehicle

[hard plume]

They really need to add more vehicles on defense in breakthrough

[gray comet]

They did with BF4 right?

[tepid agate]

I think they need to add more defense vechiles too or have a balanced spawning time.

When objectives were in roofs, 9 times out of 10 defense wins

Now, attack have more vehicles, spawn almost instantly. Defense have less vechiles and spawn about 10 seconds after death.

Now, attack it feels attack wins 9 times out of 10

[radiant prism]

I dunno, it’s felt a lot more balanced after this recent patch. I see offense and defense both win pretty regularly

[tepid agate]

Maybe I am just unlucky then. I do see defense win in in a slightly higher bracket than attack did when there were roof too objectives.... But from my experience attack wins most of the time now

I always hope I am attacking when it's breakthrough

[velvet sand]

Man, actually having good pilots on your team to handle enemy air (which remains present/a threat, but not dominating totally) makes matches so much more fun.

[radiant prism]

I see defenses regularly hold on Manifest

And I’ve seen it a lot on Renewal too

Actually yeah just about every map I see defenses manage to hold

[tepid agate]

I need to join your servers lol

[radiant prism]

I think the one map that’s pretty one sided is Breakaway though, offense almost always wins

I’d love if they added some trenches or something on top of the glacier to make it a bit more traversable and defensible

[tepid agate]

I'm more of a boots on the ground player. I don't use vechiles that much.

My best experience was playing the weekly portal modes. Rush on that jungle map was so fun

I actually started my experience at BF4... So all these older titles and maps are new to me. The map designs are pretty awesome and it has to class system experience which I've always known.

I hope in season one they add maps similar to these portal ones from the older games

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[worthy inlet]

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[edgy oriole]

[gray comet]

I know specialists are everyone’s favorite punching bag, but the default US/RU models are so well put together I’d really like to play as them.

[tepid agate]

Let's wait for the feedback loop as the time it will be regarding specialists.

I know they pushed the game out almost a year early to get those Christmas sales, but the last update was a step in the right direction and it's slowly morphing towards something we expect and enjoy more.

Hopefully, we can get the info soon.

[gray comet]

Yea. The most recent update was honestly way, way better than I expected.

[hearty flame]

last temporyal datamined it seems like theyre putting specialist into a more rigid structure akin to classes

[gray comet]

I mean everything from the jets’ handling to the first person camera position when aimed was changed. They fixed things I didn’t even realize I wanted fixed.

[gray comet]

Really committing to it huh?

[hearty flame]

committing to what? specialist? theyre too ingrained into 2042 to be taken out plus they are a part of the season pass to cant take them out

[tepid agate]

After the improvement of this 4.0 patch, I believe them when they said "we have learned valuable lessons". After they went a while new direction with the game. Stay hopeful!

[arctic grove]

Specialists will not be going away

[velvet sand]

Apparently the game is basically built around the specialist functionality and they technically can't "detach" it for some reason. Don't ask why, code is weird.

[hearty flame]

eh I'll believe it 6 months after the next bf

[gray comet]

Yeah, I figured.

[arctic grove]

Short version: money

[velvet sand]

Money and time, yes. Assuming that's true, it would likely be an enormous effort to rebuild the game to function without them. Something not remotely financially or practically reasonable.

[gray comet]

I don’t get this though…they’d get more sales if they just pushed everything back and released it fully finished, right?

[tepid agate]

Yeah they won't remove specialists, they have put too much time into them to just through them out. But they may start putting some kind of classes for them, let's see

[gray comet]

A revision of them is something I’m open to

[arctic grove]

Sure, but I mean specialists are the games main monetization

[hearty flame]

ya dice will try to make them more tolerable for the people that hate them but i bet that the narrative will be built around them and people will hate them again

[tepid agate]

Maybe they had stuff to pay off lol

[velvet sand]

Currently yes. But it's absolutely very monetizable without them. Think the character creator system in BFV, and add a lot more skin optoins and shit.

[gray comet]

True, but that’d be kinda scummy if so

[hearty flame]

EA can sell weapon skins, vehicle skins, xp boosts

[velvet sand]

Plus battle pass and boosts and weapon/vehicle skins too. It's not just selling specialist skins.

[hearty flame]

specialists are just another way to get people to cough up money

[arctic grove]

Won’t nearly make the same amount of money if they just use those things. Plus, they’ve probably already started designing for S1

[tepid agate]

I don't mind skins

I just hope they make them more feel like war instead of this turning into a pretty vibrant setting

[velvet sand]

Ultimately, I don't think so. Either the game was initially built as a more BR-focused game and they were the result, or the team genuinely did want to try something new with shaking up some of the core BF concepts. Just not all their ideas exactly well...worked.

[arctic grove]

People think that the new Paik skin is a Fortnite skin

[hearty flame]

Its like overwatch. get people attached to the characters so they are more willing to spend money on making them look cool. and it failed majorly in that regard cuz almost everyone hates them

[gray comet]

…all 1000 people still here?

[velvet sand]

The facepaint one? Naw man, that's Insane Clown Posse paint. Juggalos still exist and rule the world in 2042.

[gray comet]

What’s it look like? Haven’t seen it

[arctic grove]

Blue/black camo type skin

[hearty flame]

EA wants a "battlefield universe", their own marvel universe. that means characters to get attached to. specialists are those characters

[gray comet]

Ah

[tepid agate]

Yeah they are trying to learn from the off success money making games in this sense, I just want them to apply their own style and not make it too similar to look and feel like the other FPS games

[tepid agate]

Agree. I'm sure when they planned this out it wasn't just another "game" they have a while long road ahead planned to try and attach us and have money schemes

[gray comet]

Current Specialists in their current state are not those charactees. And this seems like a horribly alienating idea long term for people who wanted more of the older games.

Alas, it does sound like EA.

[velvet sand]

Wrong comparison. Think more what Ubisoft announced for the connected Assassin's Creed universe. One "anchor" game, and then rather than spending time on tons of sequels and big budget titles building a lot of mid/big budget titles branching off from it. Consumer argument is you're getting a lot more connected content with benefits between games. EA benefit is that the concept is potentially insanely profitable.

[arctic grove]

The real question is will they abandon 2042 after the 4 seasons

[hearty flame]

I mean they literally said that they want a battlefield universe in december https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ea-plans-a-connected-battlefield-universe-as-it-restructures-its-development-teams/

[hearty flame]

if V was anything to go off of, 4 seasons, a decent expac, a horrendously stupid decision like a 2nd ttk change, then abandonment
plus Ea wants a bf every 2 years so probably

[gray comet]

Depends if there’s anyone left here who’d invest in it.

I enjoy the game but I’m not paying any more money.

[arctic grove]

People were investing in v

[velvet sand]

Yes, a connected "universe" of titles that all feed back into 2042 as the anchor. "Universe" is a hot term right now, like NFT's (ugh) and shit, and it's the language that investors can immediately understand as potential $$$$$$$$$

[tepid agate]

Charging us $60 for an unfinished broken launch was a slap in the face lol they should give more free cosmetics 😄

[hearty flame]

yup so that means characters (specialists) to put into the world for people to get invested in and buy skins

[hearty flame]

well i mean all the gameplay content will be free so theres that

[velvet sand]

In part yes. They will build narrative titles around them. But I doubt they're going to be featured in every title in the universe. Especially given the response to them so far.

[clear quail]

sup

[nova sundial]

Is there a bp yet

[velvet sand]

No, that's whenever S1 starts sometime "early summer"

[tepid agate]

Just like bfV, at some point they starting letting you unlock those specialist characters for free lol

They teach good life lessons though

Those who are patient save the most money 😄

[hearty flame]

well i mean we wont be seeing them in like bf 2143 but theyll probably be the stars of the narrative and since everyone already hates them it prob wont go so well

[nova sundial]

Yikes. I paid £110 for it and I still haven’t gotten anything yet. Last i played it there was only semi decently filled lobby

[velvet sand]

They hate them in 2042 because they legitimately, genuinely have no reason to exist in the game whatsoever. As individual characters, at least. And their end-of-round quips being tonally way off and super cringe just hurts them further.

[clear quail]

they're gonna change the end screen voicelines too in one of the upcoming patches

[hearty flame]

still wont undue the public perception of them
theyve been memed and itll never escape them. ask andromeda about that lol

[velvet sand]

Yep, I got Gold so I'm waiting too. It's a bummer, but I'd rather they fix the game and make it better before releasing new content.

[tepid agate]

I think the game said they would also expand the portal experience...maybe integrate other battlefield titles?

I was thinking I'd like to see BF4 and some of their old maps... But with the levolution on maps and the granade spamming on locker in the 128 player server would break the game I think

[nova sundial]

I got the everything version

[velvet sand]

Yeah. I wish it was just removing those lines altogether, but if they're at least not all like "Yeah, war is fun! Haha, I killed a lot of people!" that'll be an improvement.

[gray comet]

Wdym tonally off? I also say character quips after experiencing the worst evils of humanity in person and sustaining mortal wounds! /s

Game could DEFINITELY do without that at the end of every round.

[clear quail]

hopefully it's more gritty n warlike.

[velvet sand]

Especially when it's 3x "Angel does it again!" because his kit is still broken strong, lol.

[tepid agate]

Well well well, that was fun 😖😄

[gray comet]

Oops

[tepid agate]

👀

[gray comet]

“I’m ready for round two!”

[nova sundial]

I think the end of game screen should display the best squad in the game like in bf 1 and that’s it. No quips no nothing

[clear quail]

tbh sounds sexual in a war setting

[tepid agate]

"Hahahaha did I go too far"

[hearty flame]

or at maybe they could bring back Vs original best squad where they posed on the map

[gray comet]

Least horny discord user

[clear quail]

goin stronk

[gray comet]

I think Casper probably has the least worst since he’s more or less indifferent to everything apart from totally understandable panic when shot at

[tepid agate]

Yeah best squad would be better

[hearty flame]

wait i just realised that if they use best squad stuff it should be like killzone 3s operation mode endings
have the winning best squad capturing the losing best squad

[gray comet]

One minor grip about the end game commendations is…they choose some weird things to point out

100 kills? We’ll highlight the 2 pieces of equipment you destroyed

[hearty flame]

they must have a weird weight for statistics displayed

[velvet sand]

Lawd yes, whatever they have picking those stats needs to be taken out back and put out of its misery. They're absolutely hilarious.

[tepid agate]

I know it sound picky, but I miss the voice interactions teammates give in battlefields

Like that pads of phrases you can bring up and say in 2042 like "thanks" for example.

Bf1 blowing the whistle and charging at the start on breakthrough, things like that. It was much easier to use in older battlefields and felt more engaging in battle

[gray comet]

Yes

[tepid agate]

I think it's hardly used in 2042

[gray comet]

I say thank you when revived but I’ve never seen a single one in the feed

[hearty flame]

2042s voice acting is so sterile compared to 1s

[tepid agate]

Even the bf1 ending round music makes you want to charge to the objective and take it so badly like the music was so awesome

[gray comet]

I’d just like a bit less HUD overall tbh

[arctic grove]

yoooo

[tepid agate]

I saw thank you too sometimes. But the interface, you need to hold a buttong to open it, then press another button to load up another list of phrases. Other battlefields had all you need on the one screen

[gray comet]

As of the last update, the aircraft for example have a lot of duplicate information on the HUD

You have 2 different things telling you your health and vehicle condition for example

Which takes up a really ugly amount of space

[tepid agate]

Yeah I can't remember exactly as I said I don't use vechiles much but I think I saw a new stat on the left and right

[hearty flame]

I dunno why 2042 has such as issue with UI. i mean Vs was simple and ugly but it worked

[gray comet]

I think it just needs to display less information.

Or make the icons slightly smaller. Let us see more.

[hexed mango]

if you paid, recently, for the bp, you should have done research first.

1. they pointed out soon after release that S1 would be delayed to give improvements first
2. they recently pointed out more about S1, its release in June, and info about it

But that's just my thoughts

[edgy oriole]

fake there is no bots

[nova sundial]

No I preordered it for £110 the most expensive version as it’s my first ever pre order. I knew it was gonna be a little buggy to start like bf 4 was but the game just disintegrated so quickly

[arctic grove]

?

[hexed mango]

how was this disintegrating?

[edgy oriole]

i said what i said

[arctic grove]

wym

[hearty flame]

i think he meant at launch

[edgy oriole]

no bots. therefor not real

[arctic grove]

im genuinely confused

its not a public game its the new hardcore thingy

[nova sundial]

Yeah.

[hexed mango]

ok, well now, at this stage
can you see a difference

[dim hatch]

nvidia update help?

[nova sundial]

I played on it last in February and i could only find a half full server at most during mid day on a weekend

[hexed mango]

i recommend you try again now, or at the least read #game-news

[tepid agate]

@nova sundial I think it's better they do fix what was broken instead of adding more stuff.

Pushing season 1 back to fix the game? Right decision

Pushing the game out for Christmas sales? Wrong decision

[hexed mango]

agreed

[velvet sand]

Make sure you have crossplay on.

[radiant prism]

^^

[nova sundial]

I agree completely with this statement

[hexed mango]

if you read what they said, they said "last in February" so idt that applies now, cause they aren't playing

[gray comet]

Correct

[tepid agate]

Remember when thier Christmas skins got data mined and leaked which I guess they wanted to try and sell.... But then after the outrage giving us this broken product they pulled out 😄

[nova sundial]

There were Christmas skins!?

[hexed mango]

their*

[hearty flame]

santa boris

[tepid agate]

Oh you never saw 😄

[hexed mango]

yeah a santa boris lel

[edgy oriole]

rip christmas tank and santa boris.

[radiant prism]

No, they were for a limited time Portal mode and were never intended for public release

[velvet sand]

Yeah...I don't 100% buy that line : P

[tepid agate]

You could have a whole tank Christmas skin for the winter battlefield 😄

[radiant prism]

Uhh...the mode actually came out lmao. Apparently it was pretty fun lol

[hearty flame]

its EA. they totally intended it

[edgy oriole]

christmas mode was... something else.

[nova sundial]

Yeah I didn’t even know. The game was very hard to play at launch so i just didn’t play in December or January

[radiant prism]

I would buy that whole covering their tracks thing, if the mode didn't actually come out in the next few weeks with the skins and apparently be pretty fun

[velvet sand]

It didn't. They had an elf mode I think, but they didn't release the Santa Boris skin in any mode.

[cedar turtle]

goblin mode

[tepid agate]

I think he meant the elves mode

[radiant prism]

Fine, even if that was the case, we found out about the skin, voiced our displeasure, and they never released it. Shouldn't people be happy that they listened?

[velvet sand]

Yes, and I never said I wasn't? Lower shields and power down weapons, dude.

[hexed mango]

i mean i never asked for it to be removed..............................

🎅

[edgy oriole]

no i wanted chirstmas tank and santa boris
instead christmas week we got a black bolte

[radiant prism]

I just question why we're even bringing it up in April lol

[elder patrol]

I want a ntw skin

[velvet sand]

I didn't. Someone else brought it up, you commented on why DICE said it was made, I said I disagreed. That was it.

[radiant prism]

Also, I'm not heated. I'm just having a discussion, I apologize if my flat writing style comes off as aggressive lmao

[tepid agate]

We were happy it was never implemented... I think we were upset because they have these kind of ideas when the state of the game was how it was

[edgy oriole]

nah i remember this discord specifically blowing up just bc of the skin. maybe tho bc people also wanted the art department to learn code and fix the game so you might be right.

[tepid agate]

It's like someone is dieing in hospital and your friend says "hey let's go and splash some cash and lighten the mood"

Like wth how can you think like this in this moment!? Lol batman and robin slap animation

[radiant prism]

This, I guess I'm just used to people being ridiculously pissed off about the skin

[velvet sand]

People are dumb and don't realize how far ahead art teams usually work vs. where games are at that moment.

[edgy oriole]

bfv christmas skins were dope af. maybe we can have cool stuff these coming holidays.

[hearty flame]

ew Vs christmas skins were cringe

[edgy oriole]

i liked them. fit the time period and were grimy looking.

[elder patrol]

Possibly, I mean with the way seasons are looking they could have a couple in a season

[edgy oriole]

i hope

[elder patrol]

But first we worry about non skin content

[cedar turtle]

Remember when you could rent a game for a few days? I miss those days.

[edgy oriole]

i thought about getting gamefly bc i have a switch. but i dont really touch my switch much so i didnt

[cedar turtle]

Gamefly still exists?!

[edgy oriole]

yeah

[elder patrol]

Holy shit thought they died

[tepid agate]

These skins may just be like a colourful fun thing for people, but those extravagant Christmas themed items just felt so far away from the battlefield I'm used to and looked so similar to the other FPS games out their. Do those things for those games but please let battles he battlefield

[edgy oriole]

i should do it now i think about it bc i got a ps5

[hearty flame]

EA wants that fortnite money without making a fortnite so they have to use other games to get it

[tepid agate]

They are trying to mold it in the same way

[hearty flame]

and i hope it fails

[chilly oak]

No microtransactions yet in game tho

[velvet sand]

I mean, they've got Apex which looks like it's printing an average of half a Billion a year. Sure, not Fortnite money, but nobody is gonna make Fortnite money.

[edgy oriole]

when/if skin shop happens im throwing some cash to get some good skins finally

[hearty flame]

ah buts its not enough for ea. its never enough

[ionic gust]

truthfully, I didn't mind the Boris Santa skin, when it got leaked it was coming up to christmas so I didn't see it as much of an issue

[tepid agate]

I hope this game succeeds but if it's going to turn into those other games then no

[velvet sand]

That's on top of FIFA printing literally $1B+ a year.

[edgy oriole]

funny enough we got a chinese new year skin and nobody cared

[hearty flame]

lol if ea wants it to succeed theyll need to chase back all the people that left cuz theyre forniting it

[chilly oak]

Maybe same depends tho

[ionic gust]

that was for the auto-shotty, wasn't it?

[edgy oriole]

ye

[chilly oak]

I can't believe I missed it, I played at the time just didn't bother to do challenges

[tepid agate]

Having a red and gold weapon? That does not compare to a whole Santa clause outfit running around and driving a Santa themed tank

[edgy oriole]

both are holiday theme

[ionic gust]

yeah, I got that one, think I've still got it equipped actually