battlefield-2042

[digital cliff]

But admittedly I have a soft spot for Angel

[bitter hinge]

or on that dog shit map in the ice. whatever the name is.

[slate meadow]

I get manifest alot

[dapper berry]

irish is the only true specialist

[bitter hinge]

"here's 6 aircraft fighting over C flag for 15 minutes and then 6 heavy vehicles at A"

[digital cliff]

Irish & Angel

[dapper berry]

Never thought i'd say this but orbital might be my least hated map

[fervent grotto]

I’m sorry but I just don’t see this game ever coming back

[dapper berry]

it has the most 'personality'

[uncut bay]

the game will probably remain the least popular of the franchise, but i do think it'll get an increase in playercount eventually if they can pull off year 1 properly

[dapper berry]

it might, it might not, we're all on this ride together anyway

[fervent grotto]

First impressions are super important, and no matter how good season 1 is I don’t believe it will be big. Sure the player count will influx for the first week or so, but it’ll go back down

[dapper berry]

i'll be happy if it even averages 10k players on steam

[fervent grotto]

Especially with MW2 teasers coming out

[uncut bay]

oh dude if they do MW2 as well as they did MW2019 they're going to demolish the competition

[fervent grotto]

Yea

I really hope MW2 is good

I like battlefield, but I love cod.

[quaint bane]

i made something similar to battle royale

[dapper berry]

this isn't what your name says

[dim blade]

Unreal Engine 5?

[quaint bane]

battlefield portal mode)

[dim blade]

ah lfmao

[edgy oriole]

i believe hardline wrongly has that title

[dim blade]

i liked hardline but not as much as 4

i think i only played some temporary trial of hardline w/o buying

[digital cliff]

2042 took the title of least popular BF entry

[neon crest]

and now they will scurry to make a new Battlefield

[mellow kite]

i really hope they add a way to remove attachment slots soon :')

[digital cliff]

My personal gripe with Hardline was how it promoted the sweatiest gloating rites phenomenon and its very restricted loadout system

[cobalt flower]

its always the playstation squadmates with the open mic lol

[edgy oriole]

in 2-3 years. i think it was every 2 years an article said.

[edgy oriole]

it really is.

[dim blade]

i miss BF2

before all the frostbite shenanigans

[digital cliff]

Open mic, loud fan and music

[neon crest]

I hope people remember the disastrous Battlefield 2042 and don't buy the next one

[neon crest]

Same

[dim blade]

true, dice did kinda run themselves up the corner with that

How do you market the next battlefield

"We learned from our mistakes"

[neon crest]

hahaha

Every game has hiccups but damn, this one was a huge flop

[dim blade]

Yeah, hiccups. Not a full blown chest infection

[neon crest]

yess

And many people will defend that chest infection

[uncut bay]

won't happen, the average casual gamer will buy anything that looks good, and if there's one thing dice is good at it's marketing. It'll be like 2042 never happened

[digital cliff]

Battlefield V was the precursor though. That arrogance was loud asf

[brittle forge]

They’ve been “learning from their mistakes” and “promising to do better” since Battlefield 4

[neon crest]

sadly

[brittle forge]

The only game where was actually somewhat true was battlefield 1

[frosty mural]

they updated icons to show difference between attack/transport

[brittle forge]

And I guess Hardline but Hardline wasn’t made by dice

[uncut bay]

yeah that was visceral, and honestly they did a decent job

[signal trout]

hardline was fucking awesome

[brittle forge]

Yeah it wasn’t bad at all

[arctic grove]

anyone know when we get season 1 ?

[digital cliff]

Visceral did good but their downfall was listening to the sweats

[uncut bay]

rumours say june

[neon crest]

I know a lot of people hated hardline, but i enjoyed it because of the whole cops and robbers roleplay you could do with yourself. It was refreshing

[uncut bay]

prob Q3-Q4 if i had to guess

[brittle forge]

If they had cut out the awful single player and sold it as a BC2 Vietnam-esque expansion to battlefield 4 I think Hardline would’ve kicked ass

[arctic grove]

seems good

[arctic grove]

we get huge content right ? just like bfv pacific update

[uncut bay]

hard to tell, i assume it'll be 1-2 maps, a handful of guns, and we know at least one specialist

and ofc skins for the battlepass

[brittle forge]

We have no idea what a season entails other than a new specialist, a battle pass and an undetermined number of weapons

[arctic grove]

thats good tho atleast something new

[digital cliff]

Hardline would've been better if they did good full on role-play with the weapons beyond the primary & secondary starter gun.

[velvet sand]

Knowing what's coming in the future for 2042? Why would we ever want to know that?

I thought keeping the community in the dark about anything and everything going on with the game is "Good Communication(TM)"

[brittle forge]

They definitely need to give us some type of roadmap pretty soon

[digital cliff]

M1911 being relegated to Enforcer and needed like 2k in kills just to use as Criminals was hella dumb

[uncut bay]

honestly i've lost hope in roadmaps after seeing DL2 and Halo's roadmaps

[brittle forge]

Pretty much the only indication of the games future is the “early summer” moniker and the fact that we’re getting a patch maybe every month

[edgy oriole]

we have a regular here thats been complaining about halos roadmap for a couple days now.

[uncut bay]

can't blame him, it's awfully disappointing

[neon crest]

Because the release was nothing that was promised, so im sure people are rooting for the game and would like to know what is coming to it. Like someone "leaked a potential santa clause skin" so im sure people don't want some stupid fortnite suprise

[uncut bay]

but then again complaining about halo in here is odd

[edgy oriole]

well in general chat*

[brittle forge]

Probably doesn’t do it in this chat unless halo comes up here for whatever reason

[regal sequoia]

Is there a fix where Keyboard controls on Pilot dont work after the update?

[fervent grotto]

You know what I find funny? Vanguard gets clowned on constantly by halo and bf players (not pointing anyone out or anything so keep that in mind) but it’s the one that’s faired the best.

[digital cliff]

It's obvious they were chasing the BR & Fortnite skin trend

[brittle forge]

Keep in mind “the best” isn’t exactly a high bar

[uncut bay]

on release of all 3 i'd say halo took the crown but yeah after some time both 2042 and halo are falling behind hard, which is saying a lot considering they're up against vanguard

[brittle forge]

Vanguard was a financial disappointment and is largely hated by its community

[neon crest]

Wish games kept it original these days

[uncut bay]

hard to keep it original when you're making a game franchise

[steep jewel]

Game good yet?

[slate meadow]

Why does my AA launcher only lock on half the time ?

[fervent grotto]

Yea. The same community that continues to play it lmao. I don’t get people who complain about a game being awful and then continue to play it

[brittle forge]

Did you have problems with it other than bugs and glitches, if yes then the game is not good now. It’s the same game but polished

[velvet sand]

Stingers feel fairly broken. Half the time I shoot them they just fuck off into nowhere, even if the aircraft's flares are down.

[dim blade]

Because the netcode was made by monkeys stolen from the zoo

[rapid stirrup]

how do i see the weekly mission?

[uncut bay]

main aow menu

[slate meadow]

I have to not ads then ads like 3-4 timea

[edgy oriole]

i believe they lowered the range. and other things could be blocking the view just a little and that resets it. but i stopped using AA 2 days after launch. it used to be omega broke but idk how it is now.

[dapper berry]

the people who complain aren't necessarily the people who play

[fervent grotto]

Like are you being forced at gunpoint to play the game? No? Then stop playing.

[neon crest]

i was responding to rogue mike but i didn't tag him, there are too many battle royal games coming out, it seems every game these days need it

[dim blade]

its not that, its just that even die hard battlefield fans are having trouble accepting this game.

[digital cliff]

This. The niche is over saturated

[fervent grotto]

For example, this YouTuber named Fooly. I get him recommended to me from time to time, and all his videos are on how much vanguard sucks and is awful. Yet, his gameplay in the background is literally Vanguard.

[uncut bay]

oh yeah for sure, everyone wanted to hop on the hype fortnite and pubg created

[slate meadow]

No it for sure.isnt the distance or things in the way as it can be a helicopter that's almost static and I still have the issue

[velvet sand]

Well, that's because they sold us an incomplete game and we're still waiting for some fairly basic elements to be finished.

[fervent grotto]

This game won’t be accepted imo. First impressions are very important, and I just think that with MW2 being released this year it won’t be able to recover

[dapper berry]

oh, youtubers are a different kind of breed but i get what you mean. the thing is nowadays you get more views when you jump on a hatetrain than when you try to explain why you like an unpopular game

[brittle forge]

Based my interactions here the “die hard battlefield fans” weren’t really onboard the moment the specialists got explained in detail

[fervent grotto]

Yea because it’s easier to hate something and repeat the same thing about it over and over then to justify liking a game.

[dim blade]

Yeah my last bit of hopium lies with Modern Warfare II right now. If that also sucks then AAA FPS has hit rock bottom

[dapper berry]

exactly

[uncut bay]

at least this triple A drought gives space for indie games to shine, and boy have they been shining

[edgy oriole]

RoN best indie game

[dapper berry]

look at the silver lining, that means we won't get lower

[digital cliff]

Youtubers are a double edged sword with games. Today they praise, tomorrow they band wagon hate

[night vessel]

yo Hess can we get a sticker version of this ?

[fervent grotto]

I fully understand that vanguard is a bad game. But I like to play it. But if I were to say that most of the responses to that would be negative

[velvet sand]

At this point I'm about to jump back on the CoD train with the way things are still going with 2042.

[night vessel]

CoD is dead since Black ops 2 mate

[fervent grotto]

It’s really dumb honestly. And this whole “BF vs Halo vs Cod” thing is stupid. It’s exactly like the console wars. It’s preference and that’s that

[fervent grotto]

You are so wrong it’s funny.

[edgy oriole]

i only play vanguard atm when im not feeling overwatch or 2042 at the moment. i couldnt spend more than an hour or so at a time.

[digital cliff]

I refuse to get back on the CoD train. Left after Ghost

[hearty flame]

Maybe the new warzone won't mangle code when other codes are released

[night vessel]

nah nah Black Ops 2 was the way back than

[brittle forge]

This really isn’t true at all, at least not universally. especially if the “unpopular” game has had a couple of years pass since it’s release, and people realize it wasn’t as bad as they thought

[dapper berry]

i praised vanguard because they went all-in in the ahistorical WW2 operator BS and they allowed players to make cursed guns

[cobalt flower]

crying kids in the background

[radiant prism]

People act like we didn’t just get 500+ changes last week and the game is set to take off once season 1 launches. Sucks it took this long but the game is legitimately in a good place right now

[next onyx]

Cod hasn't been dead since black ops 2 but it's been significantly been less fun.

[dapper berry]

that took balls, and it had the same MW2019 gameplay, the game is only ruined because of the 10 attachments system

[velvet sand]

400+, but when you realize the game was an unfinished, buggy, broken mess and that there hasn't been a single meaningful update for the first 4 months of 2022...it's less impressive.

[next onyx]

Honestly Gecko I'm just waiting for a specialist and map balance. That's all I want for this.

400+ is still very good no matter what.

[velvet sand]

Reminder, DICE managed a patch with 150+ changes in week 3 after launch, after 2 back to back weeks of patches.

[edgy oriole]

every update has been meaningful

[radiant prism]

456, plus around 80 unlisted changes people have found and compiled on Reddit. 500+

[velvet sand]

So 400+ in 4 months is also much less impressive in that context. Especially when it's almost all bugfixes and none of the more time consuming, complicated design work.

[brittle forge]

400+ fixes is great but it’s not like the game has no bugs now. It’s improved but hardly flawless

[digital cliff]

Basically 2042 is officially in Beta now

[next onyx]

I'm negative over this game but I won't deny, the game is in a better state. Personally I wouldn't say "good" but it's half way there.

Half way there being good.

[night vessel]

true and I stopped playing cod right after Ghost

[next onyx]

Going straight from bf5 to this game. You can see the potential.

[velvet sand]

Basically yes, a content-incomplete early beta where they still need to do extensive design work.

[night vessel]

all the new CoD titles are just meth

[radiant prism]

Fuck man, I’m just sick of enjoying something everyone else seems to hate.

[fervent grotto]

Yeah and that’s another big factor for vanguard. The “gun-experts” and history nerd are complaining about the in-accuracy of vanguard but the devs literally said it would be set in an alternate time line of WW2. But there’s also that whole thing with them not adding trophy systems yet because “inaccurate” but still

[next onyx]

I love the setting I love the characters but I don't like how the game works. Is that fair?

Sorry Gecko.

[steep skiff]

Have Dice fixed the game yet?

[next onyx]

I'm sorta jealous you're having fun though.

[dapper berry]

it's not universal for sure, but it's still a good rule of thumb

[next onyx]

Yeah they're getting there Bacon.

[velvet sand]

lolnope. It's slightly less buggy but that's about it.

[digital cliff]

Welcome to reality

[steep skiff]

Are there any DLC yet?

[next onyx]

Time to abuse the mp9.

[fervent grotto]

It won’t come back. Launch was terrible and as I’ve said before first impressions are everything. With MW2 and the lack of communication it’s not looking good

[night vessel]

no but we still getting weekly content

[velvet sand]

lolnope, "Early summer" at the earliest, but that's a vague date they're unlikely to stick with.

[hearty flame]

Lol you don't have to let them get in the way of your fun

[steep skiff]

Thanks bye ✌🏼

[neon crest]

they have not, no

[dapper berry]

they're adding them for S3 aren't they ?

[brittle forge]

I don’t like the characters either but the setting did intrigue me before I realised it isn’t really what was advertised, at least not at the moment

[next onyx]

On their defence, It's best not to say anything and be taken out of context.

[fervent grotto]

So your sick of having preferences? Welcome to the club of literally everyone on earth man.

[next onyx]

Say something when you know it's there.

[fervent grotto]

Yeah but it’s pretty dumb they didn’t add them sooner.

[radiant prism]

Honestly at this point its pointless. I like to discuss this game and play it with other people, but I can't do that when literally any time I wanna talk about it its just like "lmao games broken, no one plays it its not fun"

[velvet sand]

A strategy that's resulted in the playerbase almost completely abandoning the game and community sentiment reaching extreme levels of "toxicity", while the game and DICE's reputation goes straight to the dumps. Not sure if the, "Just shut up and refuse to communicate or engage with the community" strategy is actually working out well.

[dapper berry]

true, the nade spam on some maps is something else

[radiant prism]

And I'm just like, are we playing two different games here?

[digital cliff]

Yes

[fervent grotto]

“Game bad hahahahha”

[brittle forge]

The “alternate history” thing was a leak early in the year that was debunked. Vanguard isn’t trying to be alternate history although it would be objectively better if it did

[dapper berry]

"dAeD gAem"

[fervent grotto]

Holy shit the made spam. It’s nutty

[radiant prism]

Bugs are rare for me, especially after this recent update, I get full lobbies 24/7, and I'm having a blast. Why are people so fucking cynical?

[hearty flame]

You just gotta be online when other people who like 2042 are on. That's not now though.

[fervent grotto]

The devs said it in a live interview

[velvet sand]

Because not everyone has the same experience you seem lucky enough to have.

[brittle forge]

Cause my problem wasn’t bugs

It’s not like I absolutely despise this game either I put 60 hours into it

[fervent grotto]

Eh I argue this is pretty positive right now

[radiant prism]

I'm so sick of people hating games for what they're not instead of enjoying them for what they are. It seems like people play games nowadays to find whats wrong with them, not to actually enjoy them

[digital cliff]

Been playing Battlefield since Heroes. Different experiences for all for me

[hearty flame]

Lol those same devs also said cod has no memorable characters lol

[brittle forge]

But that doesn’t mean I think it’s a fucking masterpiece just because I can have fun with it

[velvet sand]

Because for a lot of us, 2042 isn't the game DICE and EA marketing told us it was going to be. We're upset because we didn't get the game we were sold.

[dapper berry]

it's in human nature to want to feel included in the majority, and the majority of people don't like this game

[brittle forge]

I mean I genuinely don’t think the game is great. It’s meh. I wouldn’t care if that’s the popular opinion or not

[radiant prism]

What does that mean though? Because this game looks exactly like the game we were sold. I think if people took the rose tinted glasses off and realized this community wants 17 different games as their "perfect game", they'd be a lot less pissed.

[fervent grotto]

Well I think they were referring to sledgehammer. Sledgehammer doesn’t have any. Treyarch and Infinity Ward do

[radiant prism]

Actually, don't answer that. I need to go. This is just pissing me off.

[hearty flame]

Honestly ea/dice should be glad people are complaining and angry. That means there's still interest. If it was quiet then they start sweating

[radiant prism]

"Die hard fans" that do nothing but bash the game all day. Fuck off.

[brittle forge]

I defended battlefield five when everyone fucking hated that game i.e. when it launched not when pacific caused everyone to suck it off

[dapper berry]

i agree, but you aren't being cynical like he was saying

[radiant prism]

You aren't a fan, you're a dickhead.

Just ban me so I don't have to deal with this shithole anymore.

[hearty flame]

And they still don't lol. Their characters are cardboard cutout stereotypes

[brittle forge]

For v and battlefront two to get dumped for a game that is objectively worse than both pissed me the fuck off and I’m not going to play nice when it’s being discussed. And again I don’t hate the game that much compared to others

[fervent grotto]

It doesn’t. The tornados don’t act anything like the trailers, the environments don’t look similar either. It’s nothing like it was promised

[fervent grotto]

I’m mad I’ve that too. I still want a Russian dlc for BFV

[digital cliff]

The marketing doesn't line up with the game at all

That's a red flag right there

[fervent grotto]

Yea. Sledgehammer is lame and should honestly be made into just a helper company. They shouldn’t get their own games anymore

[velvet sand]

Marketing team understood BF fans better than DICE does, I guess.

[fervent grotto]

Well trailers with good music and cool explosions are way easier to make then a game that’s similar to the trailer

[hearty flame]

Couldn't even finish vanguard on time so had to get cold war to release early to cover for them and then still needed treyarchs help for zombies lol

[limber garden]

when is battlepass coming?

[brittle forge]

We got so many promises about how many studios are working on the game about how it’s so ahead of schedule, and it’s multiplayer only so it can be more polished. Only to come out with the second worst launch in the franchise, only BF4 being worse. And at least battlefield four had a good sandbox and mechanics

[digital cliff]

Marketing team did their job well after that farce trailer from BFV. Unfortunately dev team is way out of touch

[velvet sand]

"Way ahead of schedule!" still waiting for EA/DICE to apologize for that brazen lie.

[digital cliff]

"Right side of history"

[dapper berry]

they never will, or maybe in a documentary 10 years from now

[fervent grotto]

Yeah. Cold War being an actually pretty good game all things come considered. Though to be fair they didn’t get the choice to try and finish Cold War. Activision made them switch

[brittle forge]

“Uneducated”

[digital cliff]

"I have a daughter"

[velvet sand]

That's whatever. The whole nerdrage over "WOMUNZ IN MUH BATTLEFIELDS" was dumb.

[brittle forge]

That one was my favorite

[fervent grotto]

That whole situation is the dumbest bullshit I’ve ever seen

[brittle forge]

DICE’s response to it was honestly as dumb but I still enjoyed the game well enough

[dim blade]

I cant really remember much from 2013, how the fans reacted to the inital release of BF4 but for some reason i think that the BF2042 hate bandwagon is much bigger

[hearty flame]

Ya the campaign was really great and interesting

[fervent grotto]

Yea the response didn’t help

[uncut bay]

people acting like they care about historical accuracy so they have an excuse to hate on women was absolutely hilarious

[dim blade]

brutal expectations btw

[velvet sand]

Their response wasn't all great, agreed. But the nerdrage over it was dumb as all hell to the extreme.

[brittle forge]

Because on top of being a buggy game there’s mechanics people don’t like that’s really the difference. BF4 was in a worse state than this game was at launch, technically but didn’t have stuff like specialists and wasn’t missing a ton of features

[digital cliff]

That wasn't nerd rage

[radiant prism]

What the fuck do you mean? The trailers are literally all in-engine footage, the stuff you’re seeing in trailers is the exact same models and environment you see in game. Not sure if we saw the same trailer, the tornado behaves pretty much the exact same way as it did in the trailer

[dapper berry]

it is, because the core of the game is flawed

[velvet sand]

It was nerd rage. Same shit you see with "I'm a guy and can't play a female character!" nonsense which is equally as hilariously snowflake shit.

[dim blade]

STOP FEMALEWASHING MY PRECIOUS HISTORICALLY ACCURATE WW2 SHOOTERS. DICE PLEZ

[radiant prism]

It’s almost like 90% of people who criticize the game don’t actually fucking play it and realize how wrong most of their criticism is. Don’t get me wrong, there’s things wrong with this game, but so much of this shit is so fucking unhinged

[tiny imp]

I dont see why they chose to drop season 1 in just summer. I mean, most of people are on the beach or do something in outside.

[digital cliff]

BFV pitched as a back to roots ww2 themed game. The trailer caused more "wtf am I looking at" to which devs went on to attack the audience

[fervent grotto]

Dude, please calm down

[dim blade]

yeah summer is when ppl actually touch grass

[digital cliff]

Shit show was still hilarious though

[velvet sand]

The game is much less buggy, but it's absolutely packed with bad/rushed/incomplete designs. See the map quality, which even DICE acknowledges is garbage. Same goes with weapon mods, which they seem like they just finished development on that system for patch 0.4.0.

[next onyx]

How about we move on. What guns do you guys like playing with?

[uncut bay]

probably because they had a giant list of fixes and changes they needed to make, on top of getting season 1 ready for release

[brittle forge]

All DICE should’ve said about the BFV thing is “we’re taking creative liberties with the setting just to have fun”. All they needed to do. Not everyone would’ve been pleased with that still of course but at least it wouldn’t have been the pretentious bullshit they came up with

[dim blade]

I like using the DM7 in HC mode so i can one tap anyone from any distance and they never saw where i shot them from

[dapper berry]

i get what you're saying because it's indeed all in the game, but the trailer at the time was painting a whole different vibe, they hid the specialists for as long as they could and portrayed what we now know are AI

[digital cliff]

880mcs for me

[uncut bay]

vector is my favorite but i also enjoy the ntw

[cyan trout]

Pp

[radiant prism]

See its like as someone who, yknow, actually plays the game, I can see that half of what people say is just flat out wrong, but can I actually fucking say that? NO! Because I'm just a damn shill apparently.

[placid echo]

In a sense they did say that but not with those words

[radiant prism]

And no, I wont' move on, because I'm fucking pissed and I'm tired of keeping quiet about it.

[fervent grotto]

No one’s calling you a shill my guy.

[velvet sand]

In-engine =|= in-game. Not by a longshot. Those are all pre-rendered trailers at much, much, much higher graphical fidelity than is actually possible via gameplay.

[brittle forge]

They said it with Battlefield one pretty much perfectly I don’t know why they just didn’t do that again

But they also said battlefield five was the “most immersive game we’ve ever made” which was not true so that didn’t help

[radiant prism]

Funny you think I haven't gotten that before

[dim blade]

id tell you to screw off, stay mad, keep crying

But i see that you are actually venting and i can respect that.

[velvet sand]

Nobody here is, dude. Lower deflector shields and power down weapons.

[next onyx]

Just shut up and stop it with this arguement.

Literally just shut up.

[radiant prism]

Just ban me way

[next onyx]

I'm not.

All of you guys move on.

[cyan trout]

[next onyx]

Take a break.

[radiant prism]

I'm done here, so if you want me to shut up just fucking ban me. I'm beyond fed up at this community.

[dim blade]

Also some martyr qualities @radiant prism

[brittle forge]

Other than “dead game lmao” What problems do people have that are flat out wrong?

[digital cliff]

It's obvious Gec doesn't like the fact that the rest of us have different opinions on 2042 which they like.

[next onyx]

It's obvious you guys don't know how to fucking move on.

Anyone who doesn't move on will be muted.

[dim blade]

Gecc is just releasing the flurry of repressed rage from reading all the negativty about 2042. A game which he likes clearly

[digital cliff]

No stay still when I snipe

[radiant prism]

That's not it at all, I can recognize criticisms when they reflect what the reality is. Presenting numbers in a fucking vacuum isn't doing that.

[velvet sand]

So I guess this is a community vs. official BF server then? Serious question since I'm new here.

[dim blade]

me everytime im trying to snipe someone from 100+ meters

[next onyx]

Officially recognised.

[grizzled whale]

stand still for a milisecond and i will dome you

[dapper berry]

have you guys tried the hardcore conquest mode ?

[brittle forge]

It’s officially recognized but run by community members I think. At least, it’s moderated by community members

[digital cliff]

It's satisfying sniping that squirrelly ad spammer

[dim blade]

Milisecond mate? Okay, you have corrected your aim and boom, im fuckin moving again

[velvet sand]

Gotcha, so community created/run but DICE acknowledged. Was wondering why they were having community moderate vs. employees moderate. Must be nice for them to pass more work off to the community : 3

[uncut bay]

about to try it right now, hopefully i'll get M5 T1 tonight

[dim blade]

cant touch diz

[grizzled whale]

you cant move when you are dead bro

i got a 70.1 headshot rate with my SWS

[dim blade]

No but i can move because i am alive and well. I refuse to believe you can correct your aim and fire within a millisecond XD

[grizzled whale]

you havent seen my flicks bro

[dapper berry]

be aware it needs some tuning, sundance can 2 shot a tank with their nades

[brittle forge]

I think the overall admins are actually EA employees but other than announcements and like emergencies like raids they leave it to the community moderators

[cyan trout]

What does getting the M5 to T1 get you?

[digital cliff]

Hit detection has entered the chat

[dim blade]

Im sure they are nasty, still a millisecond is a very small speck of time.

You know when you inhale? Before your nose is full of air a millisecond has passed

[solid imp]

A massive amount of pride at grinding it out man... I was ecstatic when I finally got that 400 killshot, and it was a solid one, too.

[brittle forge]

Are you talking about the rocket or the assault rifle

[cyan trout]

Oh ok so nothing useful?

[solid imp]

rocket

[dim blade]

let me just flip out over this millisecond thing now

[brittle forge]

Ah

I get confused because the M5 is used to designate both

Kinda odd

[dapper berry]

well the AR is called M5A3

[grizzled whale]

okay maybe 1/50th of a second then

[solid imp]

lol no not like a skin or anything but really none of the tier 1 GEAR badges do, right? You get specialist skins at tier 1 but not sure your m5 launcher turns red or anything... and anyway in the end-game shots they only show your primary weapon anyway

[dim blade]

that i can believe

[brittle forge]

Yeah but nobody types that out when discussing it here

[grizzled whale]

i totally didnt think a nanosecond is 1/100th of a second or anything

[digital cliff]

2042 needs more Shotguns & Revolvers and a M1911.

It's a capital sin for lacking such equipment

[dapper berry]

indeed

i wonder if we'll get more NGSW program weapons

[hearty flame]

The 1911 will outlast all of us

[brittle forge]

I’m surprised the M1911 isn’t in AOW because it’s in portal

[radiant prism]

I'm sorry I'm like this right now. But after three fucking years of playing BFV and getting bashed on for it the whole time, only to see that game get used as ammunition against 2042 now that I'm starting to enjoy that, I'm not exactly looking forward to the next few fucking years.

[velvet sand]

More guns overall. I'm really hoping that each season brings at least 4-5 weapons so we finally have some variety. Even if some are just copied over from Portal.

[digital cliff]

Thats the biggest sin

[dim blade]

1 second =
1 000 000 000 nanoseconds

i dont think you can do anything in a single nanosecond

[brittle forge]

just port the modern Battlefield 3 1911 over and pretty much that’s it

[radiant prism]

I'm just done, mute me if you want. I'm gonna keep raging about this until someone stops me

[hearty flame]

A testament to enduring design and memes

[radiant prism]

M45A1 has been datamined btw, probably coming S1.

[grizzled whale]

yeah mb

[dim blade]

mate at this point its attention begging not justified rage.

you are not that cool anymore

[grizzled whale]

ill still dome you tho

[dim blade]

1v1 me airsoft

[digital cliff]

True hence the sin of not having it in 2042.

Ew phone is going dark cus of clouds

[grizzled whale]

i got a DSG polarstar bro you wont last a second

[hearty flame]

It's in portal but that's not good enough

[brittle forge]

What’s funny is that three different versions are in Portal

[cyan trout]

They could use the modular frame 1911 called the 2011

[dim blade]

fuck i wish i could google "Airsoft coolest gun"

[grizzled whale]

i play

[dim blade]

xD

I got AR08 Sword

[grizzled whale]

Using my old krytac

[dim blade]

I want to get the SSG96

[next onyx]

I saw an AUG close up.

It's so big.

[dim blade]

But outdoor games are rare atm

[next onyx]

But such a cool gun.

[grizzled whale]

i prefer indoor CQC

But i have a SSX303 for outdoor

[dim blade]

Ive always preffered outdoor long range CTF

[digital cliff]

Oh another gun missing from 2042 that's a sin is a M16 variant. You know stuff considered relics would see combat

[dim blade]

I just find a good spot and dome enemies who try to flank or sneak past teammates

[next onyx]

M16a2 is in Bad co 2 and A3 is in Bf3, Which variant you mean?

I would love to see the XM117 Commando in a vietnam battlefield game.

[digital cliff]

Guns that could've been put into 2042 to bolster weapons count

[dim blade]

but okay @grizzled whale i see that you have stripes

1v1 me in uhh.......

[cyan trout]

Pretty sure people here count all the portal guns too

[dim blade]

Unreal Tournament, id beat you silly XD

[radiant prism]

You all act like people wouldn’t just be bitching copy pasting about it if they added the portal guns to AOW.

[grizzled whale]

1v1 me in MLP island adventure

[cyan trout]

I would love it

[grizzled whale]

"they cant even make new weapons so they import old weapons"

[dim blade]

Nah sorry, the game is 2 good

[uncut bay]

Since when? Last I checked they did a smidge of damage

[digital cliff]

Can't use em in AOW which is lame

[dapper berry]

i meant in the hardcore mode

[uncut bay]

Oh okay, that’s good to know then

[grizzled whale]

thats the point

[cyan trout]

True but they still get counted in total guns for the game according to some

[grizzled whale]

you can also 2 shot ANY vehicle with the NTW

[digital cliff]

Ngl, that sounds like Hardline/BF1 level cope.

[dim blade]

after playing the bf2042 beta i was so excited to try breakthrough cause beta was only conquest.

My excitement was shortlived XD. 128 player breakthrough is way too messy. The maps screw it up

[dapper berry]

as a vehicle lover... ew

[cyan trout]

I wouldn't count them. But the argument I have heard is that 'Portal is part of the game'.

[dapper berry]

yeah they themselves admitted that 64p breakthrough was the way to go

[runic prism]

What are the best attachments for ak-24?

[grizzled whale]

Me:

[digital cliff]

Yeah I've seen those types saying that, they always skirt the fact they're separated by modes. Which kills the vibe

[quaint bane]

aau3kq this is code for BR map

[digital cliff]

Angel is such a meme

[grizzled whale]

#908101543646089236 @quaint bane

[quaint bane]

how to share

[radiant prism]

Breakthrough has improved significantly, especially with the most recent update. I was disappointed too at launch and ended up playing a lot of conquest until recently, but its genuinely gotten a lot better.

[grizzled whale]

do /portal in there

[solid imp]

this- it's literally impossible for them to release any updates or improvements to the game without folks either saying "about time" or "too late" or such.

[dim blade]

ill give it a go today. ive only played portal after a long break from the game

[dapper berry]

i still shudder at the thought of roof objectives

[subtle iron]

the updates have made the game much better

[brittle forge]

I don’t think it’s necessarily incorrect to have either sentiment

It’s a bit of a dickish thing to say sure but like what the fuck do you expect

[uncut bay]

i'm still amazed at how anyone thought roof objectives were a good idea

[quaint bane]

ok

[cyan trout]

Played one match of the canals in portal and re-installed 3 and 4

[grizzled whale]

They were, just needed more ways to get onto the roof and no vehicle drops allowed on there

[digital cliff]

I catch flak on 2042's Twitter posting "By now we could of had xyz" The responses to the shitpost please me

[brittle forge]

Yeah the Call-in system really ruined those. It probably wouldn’t have been a problem otherwise

[solid imp]

I think I'm mostly an optimist much of the time so it grinds my gears a bit but you're absolutely not wrong... folks are entitled to say whatever they will I just like to see the improvements as exactly that rather than too little too late.

[runic prism]

The eagle eye thing doesn’t work is it a bug ? People that damages me doesn’t become spotted

[uncut bay]

wait, hardcore still has crosshairs and practically full hud?

[dapper berry]

and arty

[uncut bay]

it switched so that you need to damage them iirc

[runic prism]

Wym?

[fallen gust]

Shut up man

[uncut bay]

you spot someone when you hit them

[foggy halo]

I don't understand why they added hardcore to the playlist when there are already hardcore servers in portal

[solid imp]

full XP on officially recognized portal modes

[dim blade]

in portal you can change the rules. there is no ON/OFF switch for Hardcore when creating the server. You can retain some elements of normal play while still having hardcore damage and the lack of kill camera etc

[brittle forge]

The way I see it, I can only give patches to the og content so much credit cause for a lot of em it’s blatant that they should have been there to begin with. I’ll say “thanks, at you’re listening” but I’m not going to shower the game with praise. If new stuff comes out and that’s genuinely good then I’ll give more substantial praise

[uncut bay]

yeah, but the official hardcore cq obviously can't be changed. I find it odd that the only major changes were damage and map

[steep jewel]

I need someone with a low spec computer to tell me what they get preformance wise

[solid imp]

That's fair, but also way more reasonable than most of the people who simply reject any positive change to the game as actually moving the needle in the correct direction. I think that positive trajectory change is what I see more than the incremental update

[quaint bane]

What is it?

[solid imp]

If it's one of the featured modes it's in the left column. Anything in the portal browser falls into either column 2 or 3

But iirc there was some update since that picture so could be somewhat different.. I think there's some "lightly modified" category as well that's not in that graphic

but not 100% sure

[brittle forge]

I think you can have custom map rotations and ticket counts and still have full xp

But anything other than that I think you’re gonna run into the limitations

Unless the mode is featured of course

[golden hornet]

Unless you're a content creator, there is no use for custom games. Most people just want sign in and game, and go about their day.

[edgy oriole]

it would be kinda cool for 2 big communities make a custom match for some "wars" but i dont pay attention to portal so idk if its been done or not.

same rules as AOW for full progression im assuming?

or can you not choose teams in custom portals? that might be a reason

[solid imp]

well... now that's getting into one of the things that would be a fantastic add to the game. BF ever since they got rid of Battlelog has made it quite difficult to really support large communities in an organized way in game. Battlelog had Platoons where you could share stats, organize your players, have an activity feed, join off each other, etc. It's brutally hard to even get a community of players onto one team even in a portal server with the only group-oriented feature being the squad matchmaking and without an easy "switch team" option anywhere or really useful "switch squad" option that's more than a random die roll.

For mine we have to do this silly squad hopping exercise in AOW each and every game to get into the same server when we have like 8 or 9 people trying to play

[river trench]

Too many words im not reading

[solid imp]

(forgot I was on the internet, sorry..)

[edgy oriole]

good thing it was for me

[digital cliff]

Koass isn't wrong though. Yes I read it

Dice axing tools for the community to do their thing is like a phantom bow to the knee

[umbral herald]

In other words u want clan stackers to fill 2042 lobbies aswell

[digital cliff]

6* clan are priority targets when I see em

[edgy oriole]

they already do that on attacker side anyways.

[umbral herald]

Yh but at least there are less stackers now

[digital cliff]

The pain is real when the game kicks you out of the squad you were dominating with last round

[arctic grove]

Facts

[edgy oriole]

i doubt it. all they gotta do is leave the squad they joined in, invite another person and repeat.

[arctic grove]

or gets stuck in lobbies with bad teammates

[solid imp]

I do 🙂 because not every clan stack means domination it just means people who enjoy playing with each other and are organized.

[arctic grove]

id played AOW for 6 hours straight and didnt win a single game.

[frank fog]

Good day to all
I have a problem in BF2042
I'm not saved loadouts
I create new loadout and it does not persist
maybe someone can help me solve this problem please)))

[umbral herald]

Yh yh go back to fnrs and Nex to cry about it

[solid imp]

I feel that when folks simultaneously complain about a lack of teamwork in the game, too much lone wolfing, and then also object to the concept of clan stacking that it stops making sense. We want teamwork but only just a smattering of it I guess?

I see people yelling about getting on the flag or dropping ammo or needing gunners all the time in the chat feed and yet the notion that people might organize in a community to accomplish those things somehow is offensive?

[radiant prism]

People like teamwork when it benefits them and hate it when it works against them. People only looking out for themselves, par for the course.

[umbral herald]

U will understand when u have had 29 ppl against u stacking

[runic prism]

Ps5 servers are suffering to find a match without crossplay . I hope that dice closes the crossplay. It’s 0% fun . For pc it’s easy peasy . I play really good when im playing againts the same platform but not against a pc. I get like 20 kills against a pc and 40-50 kills against a ps5

[radiant prism]

Finding matches without crossplay wasn't really even possible back at launch, mainly because no one really turns it off

[edgy oriole]

well gah damn maybe there does need to be a server browser. ive been converted.

[vapid pilot]

I joined a community few days before launch.

Imagine the surprise of me and 7 other guys when we realized we couldn't play together at all.

We were dissapointed. We eventually started playing groups of 4 and eventually just lone wolfing

[digital cliff]

Only time I've had issues with clans was back during the shitty admin phase of BF3.

Kill the chopper whore admin, insta banned

[solid imp]

Eesh.. yes I've been there many times from BF2 all the way to today. It happens. It's frustrating. But at the same time it's not really an argument against letting players organize.

[remote bone]

Anything change since February /March

[solid imp]

😂 yes

[velvet sand]

My favorite part is that DICE has said literally nothing about improvements to group play or social elements for the game. Which is wild that a massive FPS launched in 2021 when social elements are more common than ever is also the least social BF game of the past decade+ : |

[remote bone]

What changed since February/march

[solid imp]

But at the same time if I had to pick between social element improvements and map flow, weapons, optimization.... 🙂

[velvet sand]

There's a scoreboard and VOIP and the game is a bit less buggy. Also weapon mod system was finally finished. That's about it.

[solid imp]

I mean.... "less buggy" is a bit of an undersell lol

[remote bone]

Weapon mod system wasn’t complete?

[crisp junco]

Nah its just less buggy

[crisp junco]

Half of thrm were the same

[velvet sand]

lol, hell yeah it was incomplete. Hence why you essentially had two versions of each attachment that didn't do anything different, just looked different, why many had incorrect functionality/descriptions, and why there was an overall lack of variety.

[solid imp]

@brittle forge this is what I mean... they deployed 400-500 fixes and the community barely recognizes that it was something
@remote bone https://x.ea.com/73367

[velvet sand]

We do. But we're not giving DICE a huge celebration party for fixing bugs that shouldn't have been in the game at launch, 6 months after launch and after 4 months of basically no patches to the game. That's just basic "doing their jobs now because they didn't do them earlier."

[edgy oriole]

this game compared to launch is 10000% better.

[remote bone]

So you guys think I should play bf2042 again

[solid imp]

But that doesn't make it an insignificant change just because the expectations weren't met

[edgy oriole]

there has been updates every month since release.

[brittle forge]

If you still have it go for it

[radiant prism]

And people wonder why I get pissed off at this community.

[solid imp]

Choosing to not celebrate is different than actively choosing to not acknowledge changes

[wide knot]

Hz stats are bugged? I have 6 wins no 3

[crisp junco]

Fixing a game should be expected, not celebrated

[brittle forge]

This and the one that fixed the completely broken gunplay were really the only substantial ones

[velvet sand]

Kinda sorta. Nov/Dec were great with big weekly patches. January was...underwhelming, there was nothing in february, and March was basically "in-round scoreboard and that's it"

[edgy oriole]

reddit drones are so upset that dice is fixing the game.

[remote bone]

You guys think I’m the current state of the game I can get T1 for flying girl

[brittle forge]

I mean you could always do that before

[velvet sand]

We want DICE to fix the game, you dunce. We're critical of the glacial pace that it's being done.

[edgy oriole]

its getting fixed "dunce" and has been since release

[velvet sand]

Again, at a glacially slow pace.

[edgy oriole]

reddit clowns bro

[radiant prism]

Even if that's the case, that doesn't make it valid to just ignore the process a game has made. The past is in the past, we should hold that accountable, but at the end of the day, progress is progress, and that shouldn't be ignored. The game is set to succeed moving forwards.

[brittle forge]

I don’t know if it’s set to succeed now but it is moving forward

[edgy oriole]

new to discord too. unbelievable lmaoooo

[brittle forge]

That would kind of depend on everything else

[velvet sand]

Man, I guess all you need for a gigantic celebration party is to launch a broken, incomplete game and then slowly fix it.

[edgy oriole]

block. maybe he will get on his main account so i can block that too.

[brittle forge]

To be fair that’s been the case for this community for a while

People are Stockholm syndromed to DICE’s buggy launches

[slate meadow]

The fact that flares recharge is stupid

[solid imp]

nah- not asking for a celebration party just not choosing to disregard the updates and fixes made as if they never happened and it's still November

[lyric snow]

does anyone have worse performance on manifest than on other maps or is it just me??

[slate meadow]

You should have a max

[velvet sand]

The hope being that eventually DICE actually gets better at launching games and doesn't need to spend a year+ working on it to improve it.

[brittle forge]

The patch is good and I’ve never lied about it being good but it’s not like the game is bug-free and has a second life now

[edgy oriole]

i actually havent gotten it much since the update. the 2 times i did it seemed fine. i didnt get to play A point both of those times tho

[brittle forge]

It’s a step in the right direction

[slate meadow]

I have noticed it still has massive network issues

[edgy oriole]

yeah they need to work on network maintenance next 100%

[solid imp]

orrrrr.... if a projectile is laser guided (soflam) it can ignore the flares which would make a lot of common sense

[brittle forge]

The movement kinda screws with the hitreg I think

Reminds me of the adad spam in battlefield 4, before they fixed it

[next onyx]

Movement feels a bit elasticy?

Dunno how to describe it.

[slate meadow]

Thenhitreg is terrible I use a lmg and I'm like 3 foot away from somebody centre of there body and 80% of the shotsget no hit reg markers

[velvet sand]

It's very, very, very, very hit or miss (pun intended)

[brittle forge]

There’s no sense of inertia. Everything you do is instant. In terms of control responsiveness that’s fine but people are able to make very fine movements very quickly and that kind of makes hitting a target unnecessarily obnoxious at times

[slate meadow]

Abit rubber bandy is how I have had it feeling the last few games

[next onyx]

I'm aware that bullet velocities can be of concern, and people Adad spamming.

[velvet sand]

Which is not good for a shooter that's 6 months post launch : |

[next onyx]

I have an idea what's up here and there though I'm not 100% sure.

Bf5 at times had good or bad hitreg depending on how the servers were feeling.

[brittle forge]

It is way better than it was at launch believe me

[slate meadow]

But my god are the maps sooo Terrr

[arctic grove]

the servers on bfv would also bug out and slowly die after a couple games

[slate meadow]

Terrible

[solid imp]

man everyone is waiting for S1 on this topic

[edgy oriole]

true bfv server did end up dying. id requeue after a couple games as well.

[brittle forge]

At launch the hitreg was soooo bad

[arctic grove]

first the death hud would disappear completely and then the spawn animation would vanish

very jarring and frustrating

[crisp junco]

I feel like people give s1 too much credit and expect it to fix the whole game

[next onyx]

The rare no killfeed bug.

Yeah that bug was weird.

[velvet sand]

S1 will only "fix" a few of them. I just hope the new maps are good out of the gate.

[edgy oriole]

not a full fix just more content. *iss what people are hoping for. including myself. i want more maps

[next onyx]

Considering how much this patch fixed, I'm interested to see what else it will fix.

[crisp junco]

I dont really want more maps
I want these maps fixed

[velvet sand]

I just want to know what the "whole studio" is working on. We don't know and I imagine they're doing bigger design work, but the lack of any communication is so bloody frustrating.

[next onyx]

I don't even care about content myself, I just want proper balance adjustments.

Radio silent dice isn't new.

[edgy oriole]

i wanna say they expect a full "additions" to main maps to be done around season 2.

[crisp junco]

So come back in 2 years? Got it

[next onyx]

I bet a major portion is working on the game as we speak.

[velvet sand]

Well, S1 is only minor changes to 2 maps so...likely will be by the end of S4 before they can make minor changes to all 7 launch maps.

[edgy oriole]

3 months after season 1 starts....

[crisp junco]

Doubt it

[velvet sand]

Emphasis on minor, since honestly what they've shown off so far is very minor.

[next onyx]

We don't know the full extent of changes we'll get in season 1 yet.

[runic prism]

Before the newest update i could everytime find a match without crossplay. Idk what happend but after the update i can’t find one

[next onyx]

we know there'll be map adjustments.

[wise zodiac]

Yes.

[edgy oriole]

year 1 = 4 seasons. 3 months per season = 12 months. 12 months = 1 year

[next onyx]

They probably just want to make sure things actually work knowing dice.

[crisp junco]

But its been 3 months and still no season

[edgy oriole]

bc year 1 didnt start yet

[crisp junco]

So the original plan is way out the window

[velvet sand]

Because it got delayed to "early summer" so they could work on the core game.

[brittle forge]

I highly doubt season 1 would’ve went over well if they released it before the patch that just came out

It is frustrating because every other battlefield game had added content by this point but what are you gonna do

[velvet sand]

They're gonna have an uphill battle trying to bring players back/bring in new players whenever S1 does kick off.

[brittle forge]

They’re basically gonna have to re-launch the game with another full marketing push

soft relaunch of sorts

[velvet sand]

Ye, will be interesting to see how much budget they put behind the "re-launch" marketing push. Should be fairly telling about their commitment to the games future.

[solid imp]

This I agree with, most probably it would have felt like piling more content onto broken mechanics especially if someone had to choose to purchase season 1.

[brittle forge]

To be fair the Pacific they kind of went in on the marketing pretty hard and bfv only got additional content for another six or so months iirc

In terms of commitment I don’t think expecting more than the promised four seasons is a safe bet unless the game has a completely massive turn around that doesn’t lose momentum

[arctic grove]

lets just remember bfv got shafted and abandoned for this

i think that is enough

[brittle forge]

I mean it didn’t get shafted but yeah

Battlefront 2, that one got shafted

[arctic grove]

to add more insult to injury

[brittle forge]

Along with NFS fans

[slate meadow]

The hind is fking ridiculous

[edgy oriole]

the hind be hittin a lil

bfv pacific was peak battlefield. gah damn that shit was fire

[brittle forge]

Both games were in a decent enough state compared to launch but ditching a Star Wars game people enjoyed was a dumb move

Pacific was great ye

[solid imp]

bf3 remaster when? 🙂

[brittle forge]

Too bad they thought it would be a great idea to do a dumb weaponry balance patch the community hated and was reverted the previous year

[solid imp]

you say "peak battlefield" and you'll probably get every single installment listed by someone or other

[edgy oriole]

nostalgia = BC or BC2
peak actual battlefield = bfv pacific

if 2042 drops some fire ass maps like pacific did. and with 128 players. then 2042 gonna be peak AFAF

[brittle forge]

The truth is alot of the BF games are “peak” for different reasons.

[slate meadow]

Bro bf1 was peak battlefield

[digital cliff]

Every Battlefield is someone's "Peak"

[brittle forge]

BFV had excellent infantry gameplay. But BF3 does it for me cause the maps the entire lifespan were absolute fire

[digital cliff]

Personally BF3 was lit and best at combined arms squad play

[brittle forge]

Except Armored Kill

[white geyser]

Bad Company 2 portal, it needs to be update. It’s missing the attack chopper and they should have added the AA tank the Bradley Linebacker for BC2 portal.

[solid imp]

trying to remember which maps were in armored kill..

[edgy oriole]

i think they should take reinforcements from bfv and add it into 2042

[brittle forge]

Honestly they should add the armored kill maps to 2042 because I think they would actually play very well with 128 players

[digital cliff]

I liked armored kill

hated the MAA though

[slate meadow]

The hind needs nerfing

[brittle forge]

Only one I know by name is Bandar Desert

[solid imp]

ohhhhhhh that's right... yeaa

[brittle forge]

I could describe the other ones to you but I can’t remember their names at all

[digital cliff]

Amored Kill had that Winter moutain ridge map to.

[solid imp]

Grand Bazaar best infantry map of all time 🙂

[brittle forge]

And the night one with an under construction building

[solid imp]

TEHRAN HIGHWAY!!!!

[brittle forge]

and the one that’s just a bunch of farms

[digital cliff]

Siene Crossing Conquest & TDM

[smoky forum]

#lfg-playstation message

if anyone here is on ps5

[brittle forge]

Siene Crossing, Damavand, Kharg, Bazaar were fantastic vanilla maps

[smoky forum]

looking to squad up

[digital cliff]

Squad play wise, BF3 did it best as it was so passive and not intrusive

[solid imp]

Damavand > Locker > Metro for linear infantry maps for sure

[brittle forge]

The entire aftermath DLC is quite frankly the best maps DICE has ever made as far as I’m concerned

Markath Monolith and the Palace one had the best urban combat gameplay I’ve played in BF

[sharp dove]

just found out flashback conquest is gone. I am now severly depressed

[solid imp]

Seine Crossing... I forgot about that one... That's a truly great map. I feel there's some BFV map that tried to replicate it and it never felt as good.

[solid imp]

nooo... Karkand mate...

[edgy oriole]

it resets 2 times a week

[digital cliff]

I have mixed reception of Metro, Locker & The Block. Those maps single handedly got stuff nerfed

[brittle forge]

Karkand is S tier but aftermath literally did not miss

[solid imp]

fair

[solid imp]

The Block...?

[brittle forge]

I hated the block so much

[digital cliff]

Hardline's version of Metro

[brittle forge]

The other two I actually like

[solid imp]

oh oh .... gotta say Hardline is literally the only BF game I never put much time into. Dabbled a bit. Underrated for sure but never grabbed me personally.

[brittle forge]

Locker I think is better cause it has better design but the BFV version of Metro is really good

[digital cliff]

Hardline introduced flag capture radius on the map & taking ammo/med off potatoes

[brittle forge]

The other two versions of metro I don’t like as much

BF3’s being the worst because of course

[sharp dove]

so sad, flashback conquest was goated with sauce ong ong

[solid imp]

I liked Locker's implementation of going slightly around the spine of the map more than metro ever did

[digital cliff]

Metro and that ceiling glitch

[sharp dove]

fuck i got kaldeioscope

[solid imp]

But that's what made Damavand better... take a chopper over 🙂

[edgy oriole]

totalfps said itll prolly return in a couple days on next portal reset bc it was popular

[digital cliff]

Damavand Peak was lit

[sharp dove]

hella skrilla

[brittle forge]

I like infantry conquest a lot

[edgy oriole]

[white geyser]

It’s too bad 2042 doesn’t have something cool we can find and use it like in hardline

[digital cliff]

lol the couch

Yeah road killing with the couch was funny asf

[velvet sand]

My kingdom for infantry-focused modes being a core mode and not a rotating Portal feature

[slate meadow]

Why does it take like 4 AA missiles to take down a hind that's not AA if it's not a.one shot kill on anything flying

[foggy halo]

the based map

[digital cliff]

I appreciated Hardline's goofy cops & robbers nature. Just hated the loadout system

[solid imp]

Yes, this I agree with 100%... I really need infantry focus and 2042 will be a contender for me in the top BFs... vehicle maps only is more than a bit frustrating

[arctic grove]

bfv is simulatenously the most enjoyable and frustrating bf

[brittle forge]

Hardline’s gun customization is literally a franchise best, so annoyed they ditched it

[next onyx]

Hardline was a fun game.

[brittle forge]

I get why for 1 and V, time period and all that

[next onyx]

Eh, Bfh's was no different from 4's?

[arctic grove]

hardline looked like a gta mod lol

[brittle forge]

2042’s isn’t really comparable

[white geyser]

Back in hardline, I was busy collecting cash 💰

[arctic grove]

on the surface anyways

[next onyx]

I wanted 10 Mil to get that dinosaur mask.

[digital cliff]

I hated how Hardline ramped up the gun mastery just to used a gun for both factions and locked sidearms to specific classes

[next onyx]

But gave up.

[fiery shoal]

im mvp in conquest as infantry only 20% of the time

[brittle forge]

I mean kinda but you had way more options for visual customization.

[next onyx]

You mean gun bench then.

[slate meadow]

Can you get xp in portal btw?

[brittle forge]

Yes

[next onyx]

That was the best we ever got.

Yes but massively reduced on player modes.

Unfortunately.

[heavy kraken]

i will say tho, unlesss you're playing with your friends, squads don't really matter

[slate meadow]

But official modes are fine?

[edgy oriole]

featured portals are 100% exp

[heavy kraken]

say again

[velvet sand]

Promoted Portal modes have full XP/medals

[white geyser]

If I remember correctly in hardline, I think I reach 3 million dollars 💵, I spent Hotwire mode and I forgot the other name of the mode I played.

[heavy kraken]

bloodmoney

[next onyx]

Blood money and heist were top tier.

[digital cliff]

Even without friends. Just look at what your current squad's perks were. If they had Ammo, Sprint & grenades. You'd take explosives perk

[next onyx]

Money makes the world go round.

Latest game we got a g3

[digital cliff]

Thats why I liked how passive it was

[heavy kraken]

true, kinda wished that didn't stop in bf4

[fiery shoal]

maybe this is why i like manifest so much... hardly any vehicles

[heavy kraken]

but i think battlefield 4 with squad perks did a very good job with that

[next onyx]

One thing I loved doing was rigging oil tankers with breaching charges and nuking the enemy base.

[velvet sand]

Manifest is great. Only 2042 map with some actual cover for infantry to move around without getting waxed by snipers and vehicles everywhere.

[next onyx]

That and it isn't shit either.

[heavy kraken]

if you're not running 2x ammo, 2x sprint, or 2x explosive, me no like you

[digital cliff]

Squad perks for BF4 only works best when you got promoted by Commander or lived long enough to gain all abilities.

Squad wipes canceled that out

[fiery shoal]

i think its easily the best map

[digital cliff]

omg you still believed 2x perk wasa thing?

[heavy kraken]

most squad wipes i experiensed doesn't clear off the bar

[heavy kraken]

double the ammunition, faster sprint speed, and higher gadget ammunition

[oblique crag]

https://twitter.com/xx19Nick94xx/status/1518652062988308480?t=XA-ZG80QOtTiN0nt0oVH3g&s=19

[digital cliff]

That strat was a lie

[next onyx]

Feels great to give the mp9 and not be punched in the gut all the time.

[oblique crag]

almost 3 servers full and Dice still not listening. how many need 5 or 6??? I want the full XP to return to the portal like the first day! Is it too much to ask?

[next onyx]

In terms of traversal.

[heavy kraken]

what you like to use

[velvet sand]

Apparently yes, it is too much to ask. DICE doesn't want folks XP farming for some reason, even if they released their own XP farming zombie Portal map and had to quickly disable it, lol.

[digital cliff]

I'd look at what the perks the squadmates were using and use something else

[heavy kraken]

ahh, i always run double ammunition

[digital cliff]

Had so many hot mic moments when blueberries thought 2x perk worked (It didn't)

[heavy kraken]

lol

[white geyser]

Back in BF4, although I enjoy using the Zuni rocket for my AA tank, however they could have added the hydra rocket for the AA tank.

[uncut bay]

god they desperately need to fix ffa spawns

[grizzled whale]

stop complaining, you aint gonna get the same xp for killing bots

[digital cliff]

Ew bot farmers

[velvet sand]

But at this point...just why not? Let folks enjoy the game how they want, Portal was initially advertised with full progress IIRC, so it's weird that they backtracked on that at launch and haven't updated their stance since.

[digital cliff]

Bot farmers deserve to memed on for cheesing like that

[grizzled whale]

initially, but the community proved they dont deserve that by immediately hopping on bot farms

[uncut bay]

playing against bots harms nobody, some people prefer pve and considering dice said portal would have full progression, they kind of owe pve players

[grizzled whale]

so they changed it, deal with it

[digital cliff]

Cheesers ruin everything

[velvet sand]

Which should have been obvious to DICE before they released the game - that players would create bot-farms - and should have been accounted for.

[oblique crag]

but the way the game is, even those of us who farm xp need hahaha

[grizzled whale]

getting the same progression as PVP players is unfair towards the pvp players

[velvet sand]

Though I'm not sure why some folks progressing via killing bots in portal mode negatively impacts the experience of people who play proper PvP modes.

[uncut bay]

easy for you to say lol not a regular player's fault that dice was too incompetent to see that some would farm xp if given the chance

[white geyser]

Yeah I spend my time doing PvE (co-op) in other games and 2042 but not the PvE mode I wanted

[uncut bay]

why? Afraid they'll get a banner too soon? Unlock the 20 weapons a bit too fast?

[dapper berry]

that would mean every release of new content would see a surge of bot farming servers

[grizzled whale]

killing 1000 bots takes 2-3 hours, killing 1000 players takes atleast 10, so why would they get the same experience?

[velvet sand]

"We couldn't have predicted that players would attempt to abuse Portal XP given that players in every game have abused XP mechanics whenever possible. It's not our fault!"

[grizzled whale]

regardless, its unfair

[uncut bay]

"hey guys look at this cool thing we're doing to cater for pve players. Oh sorry we didn't think bot farms would be made! Now you get nothing"

[velvet sand]

Why though? Getting the top tier weapon skin doesn't even mean anything other than "you played with that weapon/vehicle a lot" which is a simple measure of time invested vs. something that actually requires skill.

[heavy kraken]

how good was squad flak

[uncut bay]

people crying about unfair when it does nothing to impact their game experience lmao, get over yourself

[white geyser]

Solo and co-op it needs to be a separate option, co-op mode needs to be online matchmaking 4 player PvE mode with good contents so the players can spend time playing it.

[grizzled whale]

and because its a measure of time invested the time that has to be invested to get it needs to be equal

[digital cliff]

Reduced explosion damage on Engineer/vehicle heavy maps was always a plus

[dapper berry]

it means a lot to people who play for completion and grind, it's a majority of players nowadays

[grizzled whale]

put the T1 kills at around 28000 for bots and im all for it

[velvet sand]

Except it's not equal to begin with as people can progress at different paces based on how good they are/luck of how good/bad enemy players are in matches.

[dapper berry]

which creates an incentive to get better

[oblique crag]

my server has no bots and gives tapes. you can check it yourself, it is active now. Look for it as "latino" but you will have to queue because it is 100/100 players

[grizzled whale]

which contradicts you saying no skill is involved

[heavy kraken]

let me rephrase, how effective was it. i usually run squad ammo or squad expl

[grizzled whale]

if you dont change any rules you can get full progression, just do that

[slate meadow]

Do they have xp boosters in this game ?

For squads

[grizzled whale]

not yet, but they are leaked

[heavy kraken]

so i don't know how effective squad flak is lol

[velvet sand]

Skill can make it faster, but it's primarily just a "how much have you used this weapon/vehicle" thing since it largely bases progress off kills alone. You can suck and still eventually unlock T1 for everything with enough time invested. And if you suck, farming bots is still going to take you time.

[grizzled whale]

but its not gonna take you anywhere nearly as long as against players

[digital cliff]

It was a throw away perk. Ammo, Sprint, Nades & Explosive perk were the main go to perks.

Flak, Cover & Suppression throwaways for the 4th member of the squad

[grizzled whale]

And again, if im a good player and i unlock it fast, thats a combination of time and skill
If you suck at the game you shouldnt be able to get it as fast as i did

[oblique crag]

I did that for 23 days 100/100 players I don't know what is difficult to understand haha ​​it's active now, look for it on the portal if you don't believe ✌️

[velvet sand]

If you're good, sure! If you're bad, maybe. But either way, does other people getting T1 by killing bots somehow make your accomplishment of getting T1 in PvP only "less valuable"?

[slate meadow]

Do you get xp for hazard zone?

I really wanna push my xp I've been playing all day and only got to lvl 19

[dapper berry]

yes

[uncut bay]

just goofy to care about something like that so much. I want T1 and i'm getting it against players even if given a bot option, doesn't affect me if someone got it through bots, that's their problem

[velvet sand]

How so?

[heavy kraken]

ahh

[dapper berry]

because it's value is in direct correlation to scarcity

[edgy oriole]

yes but it DOA.

[velvet sand]

So in 12 months when a ton of folks have T1 will it be less universally valuable?

[dapper berry]

yes it will

[grizzled whale]

yes, because literally everyone can get those same skins with very little to no effort by playing against enemies that dont even move when you shoot them

[cyan trout]

I think it's hilarious people care about T1

[heavy kraken]

i wonder if the new battlefield game will bring back squad perks, either similar to battlefield 3 or battlefield 4

[dapper berry]

i personally don't care about it, but i understand why DICE does

[solid imp]

If people shouldn't care about t1 why should they care about a stats tracker? But both are valuable and good things to have.

[velvet sand]

Just seems weird that "We promise full Portal XP" followed by, "Just kidding, we could have never predicted people would predictably abuse XP in Portal mode" is a shitty, awful, no good position that feels like a bait-and-switch that's purely DICE's fault.

[digital cliff]

Battlefield has been back sliding into lone wolf field for awhile now

[fallen yarrow]

Agreed

[velvet sand]

Note: I don't play against bots a ton unless they're backfilling AOW matches that I'm in.

[uncut bay]

it is, i know people that only got the game because of bots with full progression, then dice turned around and spat in their faces

[cyan trout]

With cheeks wide open

[dapper berry]

it doesn't feel good if you're a PvE player that's for sure, but the logic behind it is sound

[grizzled whale]

@velvet sand If your boss gives you some special medal or something for being best employee, but a week later he gives it to some dumbass that shat his pants for a week straight wouldnt you feel like its meaningless?

[velvet sand]

It's sound, except that it contradicts one of the selling points they made for the game. Which makes it...unsound now.

[digital cliff]

I just got done eating and you say that lol. True none the less

[heavy kraken]

unfortunetly, ofc unless you're playing with friends or the medics in battlefield 1 and v are actually skilled

[velvet sand]

Lol, anything like that from my boss is meaningless to begin with so I wouldn't care either way.

[cyan trout]

😂

[carmine nimbus]

Hello, guys sorry I asking but what happens to weekly mission??

[grizzled whale]

its just an example, you get what im trying to say

[heavy kraken]

whatwhat

[uncut bay]

no, because i know i got it for being the best employee. He could give it to a customer for being pretty, doesn't affect me

[carmine nimbus]

It doesn't show up

[fallen yarrow]

If only T1 medals were the equivalent of 'Best Employee'. They're more like the equivalent of '100 hours worked at the company'. So you and Billy Dipshit are both eligible for the award

[velvet sand]

It's still there, but it's buggy and may not show up.

Check the requirements and try to progress from memory/notes if it's not showing up.

[heavy kraken]

billy dipshit 😭

[carmine nimbus]

It can possible on PS4??

[uncut bay]

this too, they're not indicative of skill, just how much time you spent slaving away with a gun for a bit of dopamine lol

[dapper berry]

But if Billy Dipshit spent 100 hours in the bathroom on his phone, it makes the reward less valuable b y definition

[fallen yarrow]

T1 'Mastery' has nothing to do with skill. There is absolutely no reason to restrict it to multiplayer only

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fairly-odd-parents-angry-mad-furious-rage-gif-11564799

[heavy kraken]

sounds alot like noob from battlefield friends lmao

[digital cliff]

I tend to lone wolf it due to circumstances of my usuals went to CoD & BR. Still against bolstering lone wolf play style of play in a combined arms Battlefield title

[heavy kraken]

yeah

[pulsar vine]

Nice Nagatoro pfp

[digital cliff]

2042 leaves a nasty tasty in the mouth now that Recon can use rocket launchers

[noble scaffold]

squad play is all good, but what about between squad play? it’s hard to attack an objective with just your four sqaud and a few bots, something to get squads coordinating would be cool

[digital cliff]

Thanks btw

[grizzled whale]

Who is recon?
thats not a specialist ive head of

[velvet sand]

No class restrictions on weapons/gadgets is one of the best things from 2042.

[pulsar vine]

I know right must be new update

[uncut bay]

no restriction on weapons i can at least tolerate, but no restriction on gadgets was a stupid change

[heavy kraken]

you over there be like ''HEY RECON, GET THE LAUNCHER OUt OF YOUR HANDS''

[carmine nimbus]

And you guys want the old, class system??

[heavy kraken]

and give me sniper cover for fucks sake

[digital cliff]

Made it easier to ID who was medic or support

now its a toss up on who has either

[fervent grotto]

Yep

[dapper berry]

i just want military skins

[uncut bay]

if i had to pick between old classes and whatever this is, yeah i'd choose classes every day

[pulsar vine]

^

[heavy kraken]

dude those who play as angle or old lady rarely revives people 😭

[edgy oriole]

specialist dont bother me, but i wouldnt argue if they went back to classes.

[carmine nimbus]

I see this in same way

[digital cliff]

I know

[fervent grotto]

It’s like why tf even play the character if your not gonna revive

[fallen yarrow]

Yes, definitely.

[heavy kraken]

like shit, even those who play as medic in battlefield v risk their lives just to save a life

[pulsar vine]

It annoys me but also I won’t play medic to fix that situation

[digital cliff]

BFV ironically did specialist best, They were purely cosmetic

[fervent grotto]

Dude medic in BFV is such an experience

[uncut bay]

but yes, since we're stuck with specialists, some more military skins would be nice, preferably ones that cover my specialist's face. Also a helmet for, y'know, the wingsuit specialist. Boggles my mind how they fly around all the time and the only helmet you can get is at T1

[digital cliff]

BFV Medic was goat tho

[dapper berry]

totally, all we ever wanted was a BF4 with BFV systems

[fervent grotto]

ESPECIALLY BFV movement

[heavy kraken]

i even use a pistol and only a pistol while playing medic if i use the field medic perk

[fallen yarrow]

I think that's what most people wanted, and that's what DICE led us to believe was the case with 2042 before launch

[velvet sand]

Lord I miss BFV movement...crouch sprinting was so nice.

[heavy kraken]

because irl, field medics only tend to have a sidearm as their only weapon

[digital cliff]

Sprinting across the map crouched as I blast them with my Sherman tank

[chilly oak]

so thats why in swbf2 medics only have pistols

[dapper berry]

the 'physicality' as they called it was something so subtle and yet so important

[arctic grove]

peak movement in an fps PERIOD

[heavy kraken]

but then ofc, when i use combat medic, i have a primary equipped

[pulsar vine]

I personally prefer 2042’s movement

[fervent grotto]

I use the type2A, ZK-383, or the Jungle Carbine

[solid imp]

crouch sprinting was pretty cool and I wish we could lean.

[arctic grove]

bfv movement is genuinely some of the best in an fps

[carmine nimbus]

My vision is, there can be both like specialist so do class, but I will still pick up class😂😂

[heavy kraken]

mp40 with wither the 1911 or the p03

[fervent grotto]

The ninja roll after jumping off a small cliff is just mwah

[arctic grove]

its so incredibly fluid and has a modest skill ceiling

[uncut bay]

titanfall has best fps movement by far imo, though if we're strictly talking about boots on the ground BFV probably takes the cake

[cyan trout]

That's pretty subjective

[heavy kraken]

you're talking about officer class in battlefront 2

[pulsar vine]

TF|2’s movement is amazing

[velvet sand]

Yep. But I was never the biggest fan of class weapon/gadget limitations to begin with so I really liked the change.

[digital cliff]

Its a personal flare, but I liked how you squad revive in BFV. You're mate gets downed, you grab their hand and with a pat on the side brings em back in the fight

[chilly oak]

yes

[ancient lichen]

I’m honestly not sure why they wouldn’t just copy paste the bfv movement to 2042

[fervent grotto]

I think the limitations were nice so that you could always know who to go to for something

[heavy kraken]

they don't revive or heal, but they can give friendlies a health boost

[fervent grotto]

Me neither

[dapper berry]

"quit whining and get up"

[uncut bay]

well the real answer is because it's not as easy as copy pasting. They probably had higher priorities than movement considering how much of a mess this game's development was

[chilly oak]

health boost = heal they are the medics of swbf2

[arctic grove]

also bfv made me at least as a player feel in control

[cyan trout]

Upgraded frostbite probably would have made copy and paste difficult

[velvet sand]

New version of Frostbite. I imagine that there are compatiblity issues with work done on previous versions. Hence why basic things like VOIP and a scoreboard took 6 months to make.

[heavy kraken]

idk, i always run assullt

[heavy kraken]

but revive.... yeahhhhh no

[arctic grove]

i could control every step in my movement and purposefully use it to my advantage

[digital cliff]

"Get the fuck up soldier, we got a battle to win!"

[cyan trout]

Jinx you owe me a coke

[heavy kraken]

'' hey, ptfo guys, stop kidding around''

[velvet sand]

Alas, I only have diet off-brand soda to offer.

[next onyx]

Kinda funny meridia that bf5 had fast pacing yet you moved the slowest in the franchise tied with 1.

[grizzled whale]

2042 has the best movement in the BF franchise atleast

[fervent grotto]

Yea but it felt smooth

[arctic grove]

its just peak boots on the ground movement and honestly its such a damn travesty that dice decided to follow trends and add in the boring tactical sprint and make sliding essentially useless

[fervent grotto]

Your funny my guy

[uncut bay]

can't tell if sarcasm

[next onyx]

I think a super sprint is good.

[heavy kraken]

use plne, i wish i was skilled with jets or planes lmao

[velvet sand]

How? No jumping up higher ledges. No leaning. No crouch running. No prone movement while ADSing. Prone in general is still hilariously busted.

[next onyx]

For longer sprint out in return.

[dapper berry]

the traversal sprint is good, but everything else is a downgrade

[fervent grotto]

Tac sprint imo is fine as long as it’s only a few second thing. It’s good for beginning round action

[uncut bay]

i didn't think supersprint was needed

[dapper berry]

did they finally add that ? last i checked (before 4.0) it was exactly the same speed, there was no drawback to tac sprint

[velvet sand]

This, tactical sprint is the only improvement and that's largely because it's damned mandatory for hoofing it around gigantic, empty maps.

[uncut bay]

with these map sizes they might as well have just increased movement speed overall

[digital cliff]

BFV had excellent pump shotgun feeling. M97 & Model 37 were goated

[next onyx]

The speeds you get with super sprint is the same as using the SPRNT perk in bf3/4.

[grizzled whale]

crouch running is BS, prone movement while ADS is bullshit, tac sprint is great and sliding is great

[arctic grove]

the traversal sprint essentially makes the normal sprint completely redundant and useless

[fervent grotto]

I will say tac sprint works much better in cod on the smaller maps but I don’t mind it in bf

[arctic grove]

like what is the point of the normal sprint?

[fervent grotto]

Crouch running is awesome

[grizzled whale]

whats the point of walking

[next onyx]

It's always been the same, it's just only noticeable on lmgs with have a 600 MS SO time.

[sharp dove]

faster sprint to fire time I think

[arctic grove]

walking and sprinting arent the same

[grizzled whale]

its dumb and shouldnt exist

[uncut bay]

yeah i turned on auto super sprint lol, never really need to do a regular run anymore

[arctic grove]

its not dumb

[grizzled whale]

whats the point of walking when you can sprint

[solid imp]

I enjoy the movement itself from a control, speed, overall feel perspective (I know I'll hear it for saying that) but agreed that some of the movement mechanics are missing like leaning, crouch sprint, and so forth

[next onyx]

Crouch running allowed you to keep some speed up keeping your head down.

[velvet sand]

Crouch running is freaking great, helps you get around more quickly without fully exposing yourself (which doesn't matter much in 2042 maps). And why is moving while prone and ADSing "bullshit"? Like...you can literally do that in real life and there's no reason not to.

[arctic grove]

crouch running is actually really useful in a lot of situations

[next onyx]

You didn't move as fast upright but it was good in return for longer sprint out time.

[digital cliff]

Crouch run shouldve had a slight speed penalty imho

[sacred wedge]

Crouch running is also a great core exercise IRL

[arctic grove]

i often use it to flank while moving swiftly and maintaining a low profile

[uncut bay]

the difference between walking and sprinting is far larger than the one between sprinting and super sprinting. Tf happened to you, just bad take after bad take today

[next onyx]

It does rogue.

[fervent grotto]

And it’s not like you moved at the speed of light either

[grizzled whale]

moving while ADS'd irl ? kek

[dire quest]

Crouch running irl....with a long tho? Yeah impossible

Lmg*

[digital cliff]

Oh never noticed in the chaos of the fight

[next onyx]

If I remember you move 2 MPH slower than you do upright sprinting.

Yeah rogue it took me a bit to pick it up.

[fervent grotto]

Sprinting around with an lmg or anti material sniper rifle in real life? No

[velvet sand]

...literally yes? Do you think when you look down the barrel of a gun that humans lose the ability to use their peripheral vision or use their legs?

[sacred wedge]

I mean, maybe if they were a body builder?

[arctic grove]

while maintaining a low profile both in terms of hitbox and footsteps

it has its uses and isnt just some gimmick

[grizzled whale]

good luck trying to see trough your scope or sights and while you are moving on the ground

[next onyx]

Oh yeah I'm aware with the quiet part.

[fervent grotto]

Crouch sprinting should definitely not be as fast as reg sprint, but not by to much

[arctic grove]

there was no reason for it go away along with leaning and sliding (essentially)

[next onyx]

Had so many complaints that It drowned your footsteps.

[fervent grotto]

Maybe walking speed

[dire quest]

Have y'all tried crouch sprinting yourselves? Like irl?

[velvet sand]

We literally can do this while not prone, dude. Why does it makes sense that we can ADS and move while standing/crouching but not proneing?

[uncut bay]

moving while aiming isn't that horrible unless you try to jog, as long as you have steady hands you'll be fine

[cyan trout]

Oh are we back to discussing the realism of an arcade sandbox?

[dapper berry]

they should at least have made it so that moving while prone takes you out of ADS

[next onyx]

At least Bueno sliding is in still.

Crouch running makes no sense but this is a game.

[digital cliff]

BF1 sliding was so cheese

[uncut bay]

realism was brought up so yes, time to give people a reality check lol

[grizzled whale]

because when you are prone your arms are on the ground, and you have to move your arms around to actually move

[next onyx]

That was busted then gutted.

[digital cliff]

Slides around a corner with a A10 Hunter

[velvet sand]

It's hard. But I'm also not ostensive a trained military operative. I also can't probably regularly have marksman aim at 150+ meters IRL but I can in-game because...this is a game.

[fervent grotto]

Dude it’s a video game. Being able to sprint with an lmg or anti material rifle doesn’t even make sense, let alone crouch sprinting

[arctic grove]

how are you supposed to maintain ads while proning lol what

[next onyx]

Prone sprint? Huh?

[arctic grove]

it just doesnt work mechanically, you HAVE to use your arms to move

[uncut bay]

prone sprint is great, dice should add that one next

[next onyx]

OH this was a thing in bf1 with prone ads. I think?

[sacred wedge]

It’s doable but you’re gonna tire out your core and back real fast if you’re not used to it. And that’s without lugging anything around

[arctic grove]

you cant just move in prone ads with just your legs lol

[next onyx]

I forgot about prone ADS cause I rarely prone.

[velvet sand]

I mean...every BF before has had it. Do you lose control of your arms/legs/torso when prone and ADSing or something?

[fervent grotto]

I’m thinking they should just add little fans to everyone so they can just hover above the ground

[dapper berry]

it's a thing in squad

[digital cliff]

Am I sensing someone going "Muh realism"?

[next onyx]

I know that if you're on your back it makes sense.

But not forward.

[grizzled whale]

well technically you "can" but you would more likely be doing slug movement and jam your barrel into the floor

[uncut bay]

dude awesome idea, we should get mech suits too

[grizzled whale]

you cant hold ADS while moving your arms around, its physically impossible

[velvet sand]

I just wish prone actually worked consistently on its own. Half the time I prone I "slide" around for no reason, the other half my character freaks out and jitters back and forth because I'm on a milimeter of elevation and the game doesn't know where to place me.

[sacred wedge]

I mean, you can kinda do it with one arm and two legs.

But then you’re supporting your gun with one hand and presumably either a monopod/bipod or on the magazine which is no bueno for a feed

[fervent grotto]

“Muh realism” as I fly a c4 strapped drone in a room full of old grandmas that all carry a lock on stim shooting gun

[grizzled whale]

try it, go lay down on your stomach with a stick or something and try to keep your arms in the exact same position while trying to move around

[fervent grotto]

Dude, it’s a video game. The realism isnt anyones biggest concern unless it’s a game trying to be realistic

[velvet sand]

"muh realism in a game where people are jumping out of the cockpits of jets, using an unguided missile to blow up a jet chasing them, and then jump back in the cockpit of my jet"

[digital cliff]

C4? The hell is that? I only know jeep stuff

[next onyx]

You can move your legs and that's the most you can do.

[fervent grotto]

Oh sorry, C5

[grizzled whale]

i couldnt care less about realism, im explaining why Prone ads movement is bullshit

[main mango]

@fallen gust hates gays, ban him

[next onyx]

If you have a report dm modmail.

[dapper berry]

the future is now old man

[fervent grotto]

Or is it C6 now. I just can’t keep up with you whipper snappers and your fancy C65

[next onyx]

Did bf5 have prone ads movement?

To an extend I can imagine it did.

[arctic grove]

nope

[grizzled whale]

were literally talking about prone ADS movement IRL because i called it bullshit

[sacred wedge]

You can hit a sweetspot between realism and arcade without going all the way one way or the other.

[digital cliff]

C4...C5...the fuck are those? Its jeep stuff

[fervent grotto]

Dude he’s joking. Him and Houston have been doing this all day

[dire quest]

Anyone remember that 127 eod bot vs 1 tank portal clip shown in the trailer? Whatever happened to that?

[next onyx]

Ohk.

[arctic grove]

bfv didnt allow you to just move during while prone

[dapper berry]

the internet happened

[grizzled whale]

lofi and houston are most likely the same person

[dapper berry]

no fun is allowed on 2042

[sacred wedge]

Because 2042 ain’t fun.

[main mango]

why tf are yall still online lmao. its been like 5 hours

[grizzled whale]

its 8pm

[digital cliff]

Like many things, unfullfilled garble gook

[grizzled whale]

why would i NOT be online

[fervent grotto]

They’ve just been going “My names lofi and I love men” or “My names Houston and I hate minorities”

[sacred wedge]

Le epic marketing me-me

[main mango]

facts, are you a fan of 2042, be honest

[dire quest]

What about 127 c5 drones vs 1 little bird?

[digital cliff]

Yes

[main mango]

noted

[dapper berry]

all i see is 54minutes lacking

[arctic grove]

my condolences man

[fervent grotto]

Child’s play. I have 78 days on MW

[grizzled whale]

399 hours of having fun, cant complain

[arctic grove]

i hope you will recover mentally from this torment

[edgy oriole]

[digital cliff]

Bro went shit bucket mode for 2042?

[next onyx]

Bit jealous you're having fun.

[fervent grotto]

(Yes I know mw been out for 3 years shush)

[next onyx]

Well, as much as you are right now.

Don't mean to look at contempt, skipper.