battlefield-2042

[glad mist]

people are craving for a BF4 2.0

[slim quiver]

The last thing I want is BF4 anything

[glad mist]

minus the terrible launch ofc

[next onyx]

Yeah if it's anything like bf4 which was pain, I'd happily go back to COD.

[slim quiver]

Gunplay was absolutely abysmal

[glad mist]

said no one ever

[old echo]

COD is even worse

[slim quiver]

BF4 sold less than BF3

[slim quiver]

Idk about that, a ton of people realized BF4 gunplay was shit

[next onyx]

Spread mechanics where it worsened under suppression.

Bf5's gunplay may of not been perfect but it was a hell of a lot better than 4's.

[glad mist]

prolly cause they were shidd

[next onyx]

Yes, Hardline.

[slim quiver]

Not really

[next onyx]

That was a really fun game man.

[unborn heart]

This is actually more helpful than it sounds, these sprinklers made combat on middle flag hell

[slim quiver]

RNG spread isn’t a good indication of skill

[sleek latch]

Gun play of V, atmosphere of 1 and feeling of 3 I would say... perhaps

[slim quiver]

Spray patterns that you can master are a indication of skill

[next onyx]

Balance wise it had its issue but it was a really fun game.

[chilly oak]

improved recoil control, reduced weapon accuracy what does this mean?

[glad mist]

its only RNG if you full auto, in which case you're a noob anyway

[chilly oak]

isnt accuracy based on recoikl

[next onyx]

Basically less recoil but your gun has more spread.

[bleak nebula]

bf3/bf4 vehicle gemplay and bf v infantry gameplay is all I want

[slim quiver]

“It’s only RNG if you shoot beyond A tap”

[chilly oak]

ty

[next onyx]

No worries.

[glad mist]

you can reliably kill people using bursts of 5 shots

[slim quiver]

And yet CS players can full spray and learn how to control it

[next onyx]

You can easily get around it too.

[glad mist]

depending on the weapon, trust me.
I've maxed out every single weapon there is in that game

[brittle forge]

Are there any performance fixes in this?

[sleek latch]

Can agree on that! V's infantry gameplay

[next onyx]

Might be unlisted.

Not 100% sure.

[unborn heart]

Tapfiring and microbursting isn't that tough...

[chilly oak]

Located a missing 'R' in the description of the PKP-BP POG

[glad mist]

only exception being the AN94 and some other chinese weapons which have no spread whatsoever on full auto

[slim quiver]

Spread is a horrible mechanic

[unborn heart]

It was crisped. Not exactly the most balanced one under the sun, but it felt right

[next onyx]

With patch notes like these they're bound to miss a few.

The ironic part is that 5 had spread but it had very little of it.

[slim quiver]

The gun stays completely still while the bullets fly everywhere

[unborn heart]

Depends on how it's implemented imo

[glad mist]

it raises the skill ceiling, so no

[slim quiver]

It does not lmao

[sleek latch]

Probably one of the best in bf series I played, felt ''ok'' most of the time

[glad mist]

except it does

[next onyx]

Spread that isn't learnable isn't skill.

[chilly oak]

Fix where melee hits didn’t register consistently on moving targets POG

[unborn heart]

Fun fact is, Miki, in raw values CSGO actually has more spread than most of Battlefields

[glad mist]

burst firing and learning how to make use of your weapons RNG is

[slim quiver]

After playing counter strike for years, that gunplay is miles ahead in skill ceiling compared to BF4

[slim quiver]

Csgo yes, 1.6 no

[next isle]

stats

[next onyx]

That's the funny part, Though I'd argue that despite the increased spread in csgo, It's less BS.

[slim quiver]

Considering there’s spray pattern base

[next onyx]

Got my teeth are itchy from this bread.

[wise zodiac]

Stats.

[chilly oak]

W update

[slim quiver]

You’re still controlling a recoil, Csgo just added RNG deviation on top of the pattern

[pine roost]

Not sure why they are so afraid of just implementing patterns with very small variation, like apex or cs

[glad mist]

also funnily enough, spread was the best way of balancing half the weapons in BF4 since only guns with high RoF had increased spread

[lucid goblet]

😅

[unborn heart]

Which is larger than at least every BF other than 1

[glad mist]

everything below 700RPM was controllable on full auto

[next onyx]

You can easily balance high RPM weapons with horizontal recoil.

[slim quiver]

Correct, but there’s still more skill based in it compared to BF4

[unborn heart]

Funny thing being, 1 gunplay is my favorite, as it played into people who knew their guns and maps

[slim quiver]

BF4 is not skilled based gunplay it simply doesn’t make sense

[next onyx]

In 4 you my as well use a low RPM weapon since your chances are better at hitting someone in ranges.

[glad mist]

[slim quiver]

What was skilled based in BF4 was breaking movement mechanics

[unborn heart]

As unlike in other BFs, you couldn't really do much to stretch your effective range at minimal cost

[brittle forge]

“M44 has found its missing bullet” 💀

ascended level take

[slim quiver]

Nothing about battlefield shouts skill based anyways. It simply is not a game that is centered around a ton of skill

[next onyx]

The SRAW was fun actually.

[warped pulsar]

Close to the update

[unborn heart]

As much as the launcher was weak sauce and generally a poor pick, there was something satisfying about picking snipers off skyscraper roofs with MBT LOL

[next onyx]

Even though I never abused it when it was at its best.

[glad mist]

clearly never played air vics then

[slim quiver]

Is that a vehicle thing?

Because I don’t use vehicles

I haven’t since BF1942

[glad mist]

aka you made your statement above irrevelant and discredited yourself

[unborn heart]

Obviously, the true best weapon in BF4 was the hand flare

[slim quiver]

the vehicles are the skilled base part about battlefield

Yeah okay

[brittle forge]

I think Battlefield demands a decent amount of skill when it comes game sense and map knowledge. But yeah they have mechanics that diminish the importance of gun skill

[glad mist]

they are one of the skill based parts

[unborn heart]

Unironically my #1 weapon in terms of kills

[slim quiver]

LMAO

The broken part of battlefield is the most skilled based part!

[glad mist]

along with the guns, but hey i am talking to someone who hasn't even played it that much to have a reliably objective opinion

[slim quiver]

BF4 was ass, wouldn’t spend a ton of time on that game

But I have spent a lot of time in the series

[unborn heart]

Guns generally had high floor and ceiling that wasn't far from it, although there were exceptions

[glad mist]

[brittle forge]

When it comes to aircraft I kind of agree outside of battlefield 1 you really couldn’t hop into one and do well without getting your ass blasted out of the sky

[foggy halo]

tomorrow

[glad mist]

nooo its not skill!!!!!!
anyone can do that!!! - Miki

[slim quiver]

Though arguing about skill in battlefield is absolutely hilarious

[chilly oak]

dam no tornado buff

[slim quiver]

An arcade game

With reviving and healing

[glad mist]

@slim quiver ok so go play now and pull a 100-0 game on shanghai

[unborn heart]

Your ass would get blasted by another plane, yes... not really by anything else though

[glad mist]

i dare you, since its so easy and doesnt require skill

[slim quiver]

Vehicle time

[pine roost]

And if you do get blasted by a plane, just keep trying and learning

[edgy oriole]

[slim quiver]

Can’t do it as infantry since there’s actual risk

[glad mist]

you can

[chilly oak]

Made it easier to place the Insertion Beacon
You’ll now spawn in the same direction where the Insertion Beacons is facing when spawning on it POG

[slim quiver]

Hey remember all those screenshots of people going like 100 and 1 in BF1 sitting in a plane or a tank

[brittle forge]

By this logic cs go is a skilless game because it is an arcade game where you buy weapons from a marketplace

[gaunt urchin]

might anyone know why HDR is set to ON and can’t turn it off?

[sleek latch]

bruh

[slim quiver]

CSGO is an arcade game?

Thought it was a competitive shooter

[jovial whale]

Bf4 was better than v lmao

[unborn heart]

Muromets before stationary AA rebalance go brrt

[glossy storm]

Why did sprinklers in Kaleidoscope deal damage in the first place? I mean, what was being sprinkled? Acid??

[lucid goblet]

50mm buff

[glad mist]

this guy is talking outta his ass, don't bother.
Most of the people here are.

[unborn heart]

Also, two attack plane presets

[slim quiver]

Hey when did BF4 get an esports spot light?

[craggy forum]

paik's new ability is op IMO

[chilly oak]

ac42 nerfs

[unborn heart]

cold damage, I think

[slim quiver]

I’m not a guy

[chilly oak]

in hazard zone, yes

[glad mist]

not like that matters, or makes your points more or less false or true

[neon portal]

Is it worth reinstalling

[chilly oak]

yes

[jovial whale]

What game ?

[glossy storm]

That doesn't make sense either...

[unborn heart]

The funny thing is, literally not a single argument in last 2 hours has been anything other than boasting and/or personal insult

[slim quiver]

It’s not relevant to my point, but it’s relevant to how I should be addressed

[inner tusk]

Update 4.0? They just dont give up n accept the truth dont they 🤣

[frosty mural]

@wide shore you were right, patch will be live Tuesday.

[unborn heart]

I assumed it was liquid nitrogen in the past, in which case it kiiind of makes sense

[brittle forge]

Uh yeah. Do people think CS GO a milsim or some shit?

[slim quiver]

It’s a competitive shooter

[jovial whale]

Bf 2042 is fun but the delay I annoying on last gen

[slim quiver]

People think battlefield is an immersive military tactical shooter

When it’s just a arcade game

With a military theme

[glad mist]

nobody said its a milsim

[slim quiver]

You’d be surprised

This is why battlefield fans argue about historical accuracy in a game

[brittle forge]

I’ve only ever heard “arcade” used with reference to compare with games that are trying to be realistic, like Squad or Hell Let Loose. Battlefield is an arcade game obviously but so is CSGO because it’s not trying to be realistic in any sense at all. Cod is obviously an arcade game as well but it is also a competitive shooter

[slim quiver]

Because battlefield apparently is supposed to be an “authentic” military experience

[severe carbon]

Do the rush tweaks in this update mean no more defenders winning even while the last mcom of the sector is armed? Says Fixed issues with Rush declaring the winning team prematurely and/or incorrectly

[viscid bone]

Yes.

[glad mist]

you just claim that any arcade FPS shouldn't have a high skill ceiling and very low skill floor, and that any BF game doesn't require skill to get good in and perform proefficiently in it's rounds

[severe carbon]

sweet, thanks!

[unborn heart]

Still cursed

[slim quiver]

They’re all arcade games but in the sense of competitive nature, battlefield is the least competitive of those 3

[bleak nebula]

how

[brittle forge]

How did you kill people with the hand flare? lmao

[sleek latch]

[chilly oak]

W update

[glad mist]

meanwhile TOWs on attack helos are the hardest thing to master in the entire franchise

[slim quiver]

Cod has an actual competitive following as does CSGO because of the small set ups

[unborn heart]

With great difficulty, a lot of Slams, AT mines and weapons doing between 22,5 and 24,5 or 45 and 49 damage

[glad mist]

keep telling us how BF isn't skill based.

[slim quiver]

Battlefield doesn’t have a map made for 5v5 or 6v6

[chilly oak]

still want a tornado buff tho, make it more scary/suck you when ur further away so you have to run

[next isle]

Throwback to Incursions

[slim quiver]

Keep telling me how 32v32 is massively skill based

[next isle]

PTSD

[slim quiver]

Incursions were WACK

As what squad conquest

[glad mist]

keep telling me how easy it is to use air launcher TOWs

[slim quiver]

Was*

[glad mist]

while you never even unlocked those 🤡

[slim quiver]

I never talked about that, wrong person you’re pinging

[unborn heart]

Although the most cursed thing was getting a kill with motion ball. Now, that took a while

[brittle forge]

Battlefield is a pretty skill-based game, that skill is just not as related to gun skill as other titles cause dice does stupid shit with its gun mechanics

[unborn heart]

it does 1 damage when it expires

[brittle forge]

It’s not a fucking MLG title but saying it requires no skill at all is kind of ridiculous

[compact sleet]

Holy fuck well done dice that’s a lot of patches and changes

[glad mist]

you literally said that there's nothing skill related in BF

[next isle]

All games have some form of skill to them, regardless if one person's skill changes the match very much

[unborn heart]

Threw a ball at camping sniper, waited, set myself with bolt action on distance where I would do 99 damage to chest, fired when I heard final ping of motion ball

[slim quiver]

Not a skill “based” game

There’s no necessary requirement of skill

[lucid goblet]

Agreed! There's some great fixes/changes in there 🔥

[unborn heart]

I think I still have a clip somewhere

[slim quiver]

Because the game is not centered around personal skill

There are 31 other players with you

[glad mist]

thats why everyone pulls 100 kills every game and carries their team, ohwait they dont

[slim quiver]

I mean vehicle players do it

In BF1 and V

by sitting in a plane

Or a tank

[glad mist]

yes, welcome to battlefield

[brittle forge]

no games have a “requirement” of skill.

[severe carbon]

Will we be able to shoot through teammates and dead bodies after this update, am I reading that right?

[glad mist]

this isnt a fucking CoD

[unborn heart]

...because it's way easier to crank numbers up in a vehicle than infy, for pretty obvious reasons

[slim quiver]

Yes where vehicle players mass up 100 kills and 1 death while everyone on the ground has to actually learn risk vs reward

[chilly oak]

cant wait to hop on tomorrow

[slim quiver]

Thank you for proving my point

Where vehicles are easier than ground forces

So now you can’t say all the skill in battlefield lies in vehicle combat

[crisp junco]

Vehicles are part of ground forces

[glad mist]

so killing those vehicles doesnt require skill to kill as well does it?

[brittle forge]

The people who get 100 kills in a plane don’t just mindlessly fly the planes as your talking points suggest they have to kind of pay attention to what the hell is going on or they’ll get shut down

[next isle]

While vehicles will likely give you more kills, skill still plays a major factor in how well you do in them

[slim quiver]

Killing those vehicles does require finesse if I’m on the ground

[glad mist]

to end their kill streaks?
(thanks for proving your own point wrong)

[slim quiver]

Except heavy bomber

[next isle]

True

[chilly oak]

also on the scoreboard can it display whether your a trooper or tank or air vehicle by a symbol

[slim quiver]

Heavy bomber in BF1 is undeniably easy

[glad mist]

ah yes i want to see you outmaneuver and bait a lone tank all by yourself with mines and smaws

[brittle forge]

Yeah BF1’s heavy bomber was stupid

[unborn heart]

...in certain cases, in others, less so

[glad mist]

without dying once.

tanks do splash damage and have HMGs and a gunner

[slim quiver]

I wouldn’t be able to because it’s very easy to kill an infantry person in a tank as well as me having to worry about other infantry all over the place

[distant forge]

Can you get banner for xp farming in bf 2042?

[slim quiver]

I’m not sitting in an armored shell

Bullets damage me

[glad mist]

almost like it requires skill to kill a tank as infantry

[slim quiver]

This isn’t a 1v1 game

[glad mist]

god youre stupid

[slim quiver]

And it requires less skill for a tank to kill an infantry member

[next isle]

Chill

[unborn heart]

Well, it mostly requires tanker to commit an error

[scenic tartan]

"Made all vehicle types able to smash through Irish’s Deployable Cover"

But why

[unborn heart]

He's been insulting people for last hour and a half to some extent tbh

[signal schooner]

🤡

[severe carbon]

There is definitely skill to vehicles but the amount of skill needed to get super high kill counts is much lower than infy, especially if you dont use a broken infy gun like the pkp

[slim quiver]

Well yeah there’s a lot of broken infantry guns

[radiant prism]

Because it would just act as a fucking wall to anything before hand, would just stop vehicles dead in their tracks

[glad mist]

calling them stupid is the only time i dropped an insult

[slim quiver]

Think about SMG08

Calling people plebeians was at least funny

[glad mist]

plebian is an insult now

[slim quiver]

Well actually it technically is

[bleak nebula]

don't need anything else

[unborn heart]

It is

[compact sleet]

There is I’m excited to see how it goes

[radiant prism]

He's been consistently toxic tbh. Like there's criticism, and then there's being straight up toxic

[severe carbon]

i didnt want to list them all and upset any k30, pkp, boris, ac-42 console, ntw-50, or 12m auto enjoyers lol

[glad mist]

if youre a snowflake, probably yeah

[radiant prism]

Oh there it is, unironically using the word "snowflake"

[slim quiver]

Well no I’m not but it doesn’t change what it means

[unborn heart]

And yet another ad hominem

[next isle]

This is a Battlefield channel, go to your DMs if you want to argue about other stuff

And now we all move on

[brittle forge]

I mean if you take offense to the word “plebian”… yeah it’s an insult but are you actually going to get mad at that?

[chilly oak]

Made all vehicle types able to smash through Irish’s Deployable Cover more destruction lol

[frozen ember]

Let's talk about having pineapple pizza in the game

[severe carbon]

Hopefully this fix to deployable placement helps with spawn beacons. Those have been such a pain to put down sometimes, especially with what feels like a massive cooldown to attempt to place it again, deadly if you get caught in a firefight

[topaz field]

becuz his shield is not made of adamantium

[chilly oak]

more destruction hehe

[radiant prism]

"A specific concrete block was causing the T28 to become stuck. The T28 has overcome its fear and can now traverse over it" lol I love DICE patch notes

[next isle]

Were C5 Drones nerfed?

[chilly oak]

no

[next isle]

good

[brittle forge]

probably not

[odd wraith]

What would you guys say the best gun is?

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/good-good-evil-smile-evil-grin-racoon-gif-17020508

[severe carbon]

damn some of these patched bugs sound hilarious im disappointed im going to miss out on experiencing them 😔 hopefully the kaleidoscope bridge launch and renewal wall hop survive

[brittle forge]

Good? Those things break tanks in this game

[signal schooner]

yeah people complain about the C5 drone an awful lot but i've evaded many just by not being blind while driving a tank or AA

[brittle forge]

I remember when you could put C4 on the mav in battlefield 3 and dice removed that immediately because surprise people where doing the same shit

[unborn heart]

C5 drone situation kinda depends on mode

[edgy oriole]

YES

[unborn heart]

In Conquest, you'll probably end up driving around it. Breakthrough, you kinda need to go to it

[chilly oak]

POG

[analog fractal]

Patch notes out?

[signal schooner]

yes

[lucid goblet]

#game-news

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[woeful remnant]

we will finally be able to change our map size 😌

[radiant prism]

Can someone pin the patch notes or put it in announcements?

[chilly oak]

wdym

[olive lake]

Hm....the update log still has me strongly unconvinced. Robbons across all modes plus AI soldier improvements is the only thing if interest

[brittle forge]

But now an obvious oversight fixed in a previous title is part of “the Battlefield experience”

[analog fractal]

C5 drone still in? Love that "bug"

[radiant prism]

Oh wait they beat me to it

[severe carbon]

if you want to be unethical the pkp, or the k30 for closer combat, or maybe the 12m auto but really the k30 just melts people. Otherwise the m5a3, the mp9, and the pp are top tier. For the m5a3 go for short barrel, rattlesnake grip, close quarters rounds, and some kind of red dot sight. For the mp9 most people recommend standard barrel but personally I like a silencer and then whatever ammo type floats your boat, personally I dont like the long reload time and low ammo count of the barrel. For the pp I like the long barrel but some prefer the warhawk compensator, use standard rounds, and whatever sight you prefer but probably a red dot of some kind.

[brittle forge]

It’s in game news so I don’t see the need tbh

[signal schooner]

a good thing to remember though is the drone ascends and descends sorta slow so if you just change your elevation while you're on the move, you should be good

[radiant prism]

Yeah I just didn't see it. Dumb moment from me

[unborn heart]

@sleek latch @bleak nebula As you wanted to see the explanation of whole hand flare thing, this is TLDR

[unborn heart]

Closest 2042 got to this in terms of pure troll factor is the tuk-tuk

[signal schooner]

Tuk-Tuk is the god gamer vehicle

[unborn heart]

Which I'm happy to own a tier 1 badge for

[severe carbon]

nerf the tuk tuk

[unborn heart]

Because I have a few loose screws too many

[chilly oak]

Healing, from 5 -> 20 XP pog

[frozen ember]

C5 tuk tuk OP

[olive lake]

It doesnt answer the question if xp/progression will be uncapped for solo/coop which I remind you the cap was supposed to be temporary

[odd wraith]

Thanks!

[signal schooner]

r/Battlefield2042 be like

[dapper river]

Not this shit again

[sleek latch]

Spitfire, sir. You have earned my total respect. I'm very grateful. Thanks for sharing this

[olive lake]

Ribbons is all I get from reading that

[bleak nebula]

love it

[brittle forge]

At this point I gotta respect the amount of time this guy wastes demanding full mp progression for killing AI

[unborn heart]

To be fair, usual setup was more passive. Slap 6 Slams and 6 mines around a smaller flag and wait for someone to walk in. But it was good to mix it up

Particularly juicy flare kills involved taking advantage of particularly blind tank drivers

[olive lake]

Because its a promised feature and this cap us supposed to be temporary

[hearty flame]

with the low player count, some regions can only play against bots

[olive lake]

I dont give two flying fucks what gatekeepers think. Its supposed to be in there

[grizzled whale]

they promised it and it was there at launch, they didnt promise it wasnt subject to change

[brittle forge]

They never promised full multiplayer progression I’m sorry pal

[olive lake]

Yes they did

[brittle forge]

If they did and I might’ve missed it please link me to where they said that

[grizzled whale]

again with this

[olive lake]

Sure one sec

[chilly oak]

u too bad to kill real players or something

[grizzled whale]

all he cares about is getting T1 skins without putting in effort

[slim quiver]

Don’t feed it, it only makes the convo grow

[radiant prism]

Time to derail this entire channel with another 45 minutes of pointless discussion on whether killing mindless bots in an MP focused game has the same weight as killing another player

[grizzled whale]

if they bump the T1 skins to 14,000 bot kills it would be fair

[slim quiver]

Yup

[silk surge]

Oh wow, there's going to be a party VOIP channel. That's gonna be a clusterfuck in 128p lmao

[slim quiver]

50K

[radiant prism]

(The answer is no, but still. Fuck discussion I guess)

[grizzled whale]

50k would be too much imo

[arctic grove]

Thank u for patch

Now remove specialists

Sincerely,
ok.

[chilly oak]

100k per tier

[brittle forge]

This channel has rails to derail from?

[slim quiver]

2 million

[bleak nebula]

in bf2042, farm aka zombie mode was the best mode so far

[radiant prism]

Fair point

[chilly oak]

fair

[fervent grotto]

Those rails left a long time ago

[hearty flame]

They could do what titanfall 2 did and only make bots count as like 1/10 a player kill

[slim quiver]

That works

[radiant prism]

THIS. This is exactly what happens when bots are given full progression. It was a change that needed to be made for the good of the game

[slim quiver]

Wasn’t it like 2 points

[grizzled whale]

okay 28k, i can get 28000 bot kills in about 20 hours, which is how long it took me to get a weapon T1 against players

[slim quiver]

Or something

[brittle forge]

We literally proposed that to the guy who was talking about this and it wasn’t good enough for him apparently

[slim quiver]

Or 5

[grizzled whale]

so 28k would be fair

[topaz field]

400 fixes yet people already cdrying

[brittle forge]

To be fair I haven’t seen people crying about the patch itself

[radiant prism]

People will always be cdrying

[hearty flame]

oh well thats on him then

[brittle forge]

Yeah pretty much

[radiant prism]

He's always like this, its best to just ignore and not derail it

He always makes it all about him, just ignore him and move on

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[hearty flame]

I mean it is a legit point with legit solutions but he wants only 1 solution and nothing else

[dapper river]

It's only one person who keeps bringing it up, time and time again

[brittle forge]

Can’t believe DICE is oppressing the bot farmers smh

How could they do this

[radiant prism]

I think he just refuses to acknowledge he is hugely in the minority here and that DICE is by no means obligated to cater to him when the focus of the game is the opposite of what he's doing

[hot bronze]

bot farmers are people to! or something like that

[hearty flame]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

[radiant prism]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

gotchu zen

[grizzled whale]

praise the lawd

[hearty flame]

I dunno about minor if bot farmers were such a problem that dice had to disable them early on

[scenic tartan]

Look what they did to my boy
"Made all vehicle types able to smash through Irish’s Deployable Cover"

I stopped so many bolte rampages

[hard plume]

Didnt know that was thing, somewhat realistic tho

[olive lake]

Theres a difference. Portal farming being capped was justified. Solo/coop should have stayed uncapped

[chilly oak]

no it was so easy as someone farming sundance

[bleak nebula]

I agree

[grizzled whale]

thank god

[pine roost]

No mention of mouse input?

[grizzled whale]

says literally only you

[olive lake]

Solo/coop are just official matches with ai only. Thats all I wanted

[grizzled whale]

you still have that

just without T1 skins

[pine roost]

Dang

[dapper river]

Deleted lmao

[chilly oak]

lol

[wide shore]

[brittle forge]

The xp cap that kicks in after 5 mins? Sure, that thing is ridiculous. but the overall xp should remain reduced and you shouldn’t be able to earn everything in just that mode, the weapon and vehicle xp unlocks are enough

[dapper river]

Apparently T1 skins are "content" that's being "gated off" for bot farmers-- I mean people who "just want to play against AI"

[grizzled whale]

yeah which makes no sense

[tribal cradle]

Alot of good fixes in the notes. Will it fix the core issues? I don't think so but will make play less painful.

[hot bronze]

I see some good things in the notes. I look forward to testing out the attachment changes. Over all lets hope these changes improves game play

[olive lake]

Should be able to get weeklies and BP progression. If they wanna be stingy about mastery, fine. But everything else should stay

[grizzled whale]

OH MY LAWD

[arctic grove]

what will be size of update for pc?

[chilly oak]

matches will feel so much better with less nightbirds, sundance will actually be fun, gunplay improved

[brittle forge]

To be fair you might get battle pass progression we haven’t had a battle pass yet to test that

[dapper river]

Finally the drivers learned about traction control and transmission and all that shit

[olive lake]

Also for the record, this isnt all about me. Time and time again I dropped forum posts with loads of people asking the SAME thing. So do not give me that bullshit

[chilly oak]

maybe

[grizzled whale]

so they didnt actually nerf the bolte much

[chilly oak]

not the bolt itself, but you will see it way less

[hard plume]

Doubt

[radiant prism]

The problem is, there's no effective difference. Someone like you who only wants to play against AI wouldn't gain much in a """"competitive"""" stance from full progression. Someone who wants to gain an easy advantage though could just hop into a solo match, farm a bunch of easy kills, and then hop right back into an MP match with all those attachments farmed for less than half the effort. The end result is no different than uncapped portal servers.

[grizzled whale]

still no stat page rip

[chilly oak]

as in they doubled cool down, moved it to attack section, ect

[lucid goblet]

shhh ... you'll make mozzy cry

[severe carbon]

these patch notes are actually a pretty great list of exploits still in the game and how to do them, at least until the patch goes live lol. Didnt even know about the underbarrel infinite ammo glitch or how to do it

[grizzled whale]

im already crying myself

[little zealot]

Have they announced when the update is going live

[severe carbon]

not to say i will be exploiting these bugs 🙂

[radiant prism]

A whole one day of exploits

[brittle forge]

The patch goes live tomorrow so it’s not the biggest deal

[grizzled whale]

tomorrow

[severe carbon]

enjoy them while you can

[hard plume]

Still feel like it’ll get picked over the other attack vehicles

[little zealot]

🙂

[chilly oak]

youll see it half or less

[grizzled whale]

yeah no changes to the bolte damage or speed

[dapper river]

Time to live: 10 -> 3.2
3.2 what, years? Decades?? Is this an omen?

[little zealot]

Reinstalling! Fingers crossed, but not holding my breath..i heard they already started working on the next bf game

[brittle forge]

If this patch goes up without introducing any significant issues of its own, I’ll actually give dice a lot of credit

[tribal cradle]

That's always been the case with BF games..

[grizzled whale]

and thats for the missile launcher aswell, we care about nerfing the 30mm, nobody uses teh missiles against infantry

[wide shore]

Of course they did. That’s how game development works.

[severe carbon]

I thought they were nerfing the bolte this update, is it only the number of boltes?

[hearty flame]

its probably in pre-pre-preproduction if that makes you worry less

[dapper river]

No I mean are the patch notes telling me I have less time to live? Lel

[severe carbon]

The missing bullet on the M44 has been located
lmao

[radiant prism]

Several people are typing...

[little zealot]

"Thats how game development works" release an imcomplete game and start making another one? Lol...

[tribal cradle]

What people take from that statement ="They are abandoning and not fixing the game"
What they SHOULD take from that statement ="They are not abandoning the franchise"

[grizzled whale]

they only lowered the amount of vehicles in breaktrough, so boltes are still gonna be hell in conquest

[brittle forge]

It is funny that this massive patch is coming six months after launch, which I remember back when the beta was coming out is what a ton of people said the game should’ve been delayed by at least

[wide shore]

Sure man. That’s what I meant

[grizzled whale]

dice wanted to delay for a year, ea didnt let them

[hearty flame]

well yes. the concept artists and designers and such need something to do now that their job is over. or they wouldnt have a job

[fervent grotto]

Ok listen, I get the whole deal that every bf has had a rocky launch, but why are we ok with that? Why should a game made by a triple A studio launch half completed with low content?

[foggy halo]

the game will have 10 updates

[brittle forge]

At this point it’s Stockholm syndrome and the fact that when the games are fixed they’re usually pretty fun

[little zealot]

Did they remove the voice actors and cheesy ass cringe lines at the end of rounds?

[foggy halo]

after the final update, the new game will come out :)

[radiant prism]

Yes actually. Its standard industry practice. It doesn't meant they're not working on this one anymore, but it saves them a ton of time on the next game if they start getting the super basic stuff done now so when it comes time to shift focus to the next game, they can focus on the stuff people will actually be seeing and playing instead of trying to build an entire game from the ground up in a couple months.

[hearty flame]

is this verifiable?

[chilly oak]

who said anyone was ok with it, have u saw reddit/twitter/youtube

[dapper river]

They should be like 343 and fire em all (because they were actually contractors and not actual employees )

[tribal cradle]

Not every BF, and no we are not okay with it, but Dice deserve the chance to rectify it like any other studio and it looks like they are at least trying..

[elder patrol]

Pog patch notes

[radiant prism]

Speaking of the patch notes...thoughts on the changeup of Rao and Paik's abilities?

[fervent grotto]

I remember when people that Paiks ability would be op 💀

[dapper berry]

they're more useful to the team now

[warped pulsar]

wonder if anyone will use voip, never saw much use of it in past titles

[fervent grotto]

Also I forgot who’s the hacker dude?

[chilly oak]

paik may be op

[brittle forge]

Paik’s new trait sounds like the nightmare predictions people had when she first showed up in the trailer ngl

[hearty flame]

thats when people thought there would be enough cover for her to be op

[steep tiger]

game bad, refund

plz

lmao

[radiant prism]

Yeah, its got me a bit worried...but we'll see how it plays out in practice.

[dapper berry]

her trait is like the BFV scout trait

[fervent grotto]

Can’t wait to get me the new snoop dog skin in cod lmao

[steep tiger]

nah I'm more nervous how it will look when they pull the plug. I hope its more polished and playable when they do

[brittle forge]

I think this has the red outline spotted through walls though unless I missed something

[radiant prism]

Wait what? Please tell me thats not a thin-actually no I wouldn't be surprised

[hearty flame]

I dunno man. but the snoop dog and r lee ermy announcers were pretty cool

[dapper berry]

nah i doubt it, it just says spotted, think of it like the motion sensor balls

[fervent grotto]

It’s already in cod mobile. It very cool. On the 22nd they add it to vanguard and I already know I’m buying it

[radiant prism]

It might just end up being like the dorito above the head spotting like it is for sensor nades or SOFLAM or whatever

[brittle forge]

Well that wouldn’t be too bad provided the game includes some indicator of when you’re being spotted like BFV did

I hope they add that feature back because it was really good

[edgy oriole]

[brittle forge]

What the dog doin’?

[fervent grotto]

THATS HOW IT SHOULDVE BEEN ALL ALONG THANK YOU

[elder patrol]

Fuck that dog

[fervent grotto]

#fuckthatdog

[radiant prism]

It could be as simple as having the "POSITION REVEALED" tag show up whenever damaged by Paik

[steep tiger]

Should I redownload 2042?

[dapper berry]

we gotta give them some feedback then

[brittle forge]

true

[next onyx]

Fuck that stupid little thing. Actually annoying.

[dapper river]

If you pretend this game is an early access title, then really it's one of the best out there

Who else hyped for the 1.0 release on Tuesday?

[severe carbon]

remove the ai robots, dog and turret 😤

[grizzled whale]

Also still no c5 drone removal

[scenic tartan]

New game news day means the block list grows

[elder patrol]

I'll smack that dog with spaghetti

[brittle forge]

Dogs do not have 50 caliber machine guns mounted on their backs, therefore it is not a dog, and violence is justified

[fervent grotto]

Because that’s funny

[dapper berry]

it's more like the 0.8 update, 1.0's gonna be the specialist rework

[grizzled whale]

No its pathetic

[radiant prism]

least dangerous pitbull

[fervent grotto]

You telling me you don’t enjoy placing c4 on a drone and blowing a hind out of the sky

[brittle forge]

lmao

[grizzled whale]

No, its pathetic

[fervent grotto]

Baby eaters

[dapper river]

I've been on both sides, it sucks when you're on an absolute rampage with vehicles and get blown up by something you couldn't possibly see coming, but it also feels great to shit on some loser who's 20+ S-ranks above you totally farming your teammates

[severe carbon]

looks like no fix for dogs counting as players on flags, unless thats on purpose

[little zealot]

I swear if the next bf goes back to ww1/2 ill be upsetti spaghetti

[fervent grotto]

I want a pp2000

[little zealot]

Just do bf2043.

[fervent grotto]

I want Vietnam

[severe carbon]

c5 drones are never okay unless there is a bolte player sitting on a hill with their cannon, they deserve no respect

[brittle forge]

Vietnam or 2143 for me

[little zealot]

NO! SPACE WARS OR CURRENT DAY!

[glad mist]

play BF4 the truly last good game of the franchise

[radiant prism]

I think its on purpose

[warped pulsar]

I guess the frost effect is finally being removed

[little zealot]

Bf2142 was the best bf hands down.

[grizzled whale]

if my team is being farmed i grab a wildcat and destroy whatever is farming them

[glad mist]

if you're going retro, then BF2

[proud gorge]

1 shot the annoying robot dog

[fervent grotto]

I want to fly around in a Huey with a mini gun blasting down on the forest

[radiant prism]

Fighting indoors is gonna be a lot more bearable now with the fire suppression just being a visual effect

[wide shore]

Yuck

[little zealot]

Simply because ea never got their grundgy hands on it.

[fervent grotto]

I have

[glad mist]

AIX mod

[severe carbon]

count dogs fully as kills tbh, theyre harder to kill than most players, certainly by hp, and they count on flags too

[little zealot]

Ea seems to ruin everything it touches. I hate it.

[glad mist]

thats €A for u

[dapper river]

It aged poorly because my god the weapon spread was horrendous. And people said the spread/bloom in 2042 was bad at launch? LMAO

[fervent grotto]

Besides battlefront, not battlfront 2, the one before it

I loved that game

[radiant prism]

BF4 just feels outdated at this point. Makes sense since it came out what, 8 years ago? But just doesn't feel as good as more recent games IMO. Doesn't make it bad necessarily, just a product of when it came out.

[elder patrol]

I noticed they fixed the descriptions/fire modes for a couple guns but not the saiga

[glad mist]

it feels a bit aged now

[proud gorge]

Battlefield 1 and 5 are fun tbh

[wide shore]

BF4 wasn’t great even when it came out.

[fervent grotto]

Yea and levelution really isn’t that special anymore. Overall destruction > levelution

[grizzled whale]

whats wrong with it

[glad mist]

obviously since there hasn't been a modern BF better than 4 yet

[proud gorge]

4 is ok for modern but 1 and 5 yissir

[radiant prism]

Siege of Shanghai singlehandedly setting the expectation that BF games should have skyscrapers collapsing

[grizzled jungle]

Hey is this game worth buying in 2022?

[edgy oriole]

[kindred elm]

Ben

[glad mist]

get it off a key seller

[grizzled whale]

fully depends on your opinion

[dapper river]

No, buy it in 2019

[fervent grotto]

Not siege of Shanghai sucking ass whenever the tower falls.

[proud gorge]

Ok where the remove C5 from Casper drone

[glad mist]

at hard discount.

[proud gorge]

[radiant prism]

If you have EA play (which god help you if you do) try to 10 hour trial and see if you like it.

[elder patrol]

Its suppose to have a burst mode but doesnt

[edgy oriole]

im still reading slowly. iim working while reading so ill comment on that when/if i see it

[proud gorge]

Tempting to play 2042 again on PS5 if it’s even worth it for the space lol

[little zealot]

They should just limit the c4 to 2 bricks on the drone..so you cant insta bonk tanks

[fervent grotto]

Siege of Shanghai before tower fall
Siege of Shanghai after tower fall

[grizzled whale]

they should limit it to a perma ban if you try to put on on a drone

[edgy oriole]

[cobalt flower]

"Underbarrel activations such as flashlights and laser sights will no longer be reset after getting revived"

[elder patrol]

That would be logical, or even just 1

[next isle]

[cobalt flower]

they really have all 400 fixes lmao

[scenic tartan]

Good

[proud gorge]

Ok when we getting army uniforms

[little zealot]

Too much logic. Need more voice actors.

[grizzled whale]

@next isle still no stat page

[fervent grotto]

Whenever they remove specialists

[scenic tartan]

I can't believe they didn't fix passenger repair for the nightbird

And remove c5 drone

[wide shore]

Just remove the C5 drone all together.

[proud gorge]

Cause Irish is the only army looking dude the others just civilians with guns

[little zealot]

I want to know what their budget was for all the voice acting shit they stuffed into this game.

[cobalt flower]

C5 drone is based

[next isle]

STATS API

[radiant prism]

Im glad drones will at least be louder now, more people might notice them. I notice drones pretty frequently (like literally just look up lmao)

[cobalt flower]

C5 should be attached to any and every vehicle

[proud gorge]

@radiant prism when we play 2042 huh

[quiet shell]

Ayyyy you can one shot the ranger with the M5 recoiless now

[little zealot]

They should make a gun that shoots c4.

[grizzled whale]

can you like do some 1337 h4x0r shit and get access to that?

[cobalt flower]

thank fuck

[radiant prism]

I'm on pretty frequently

[proud gorge]

You never added me sadge

[next isle]

yes

[radiant prism]

Ye because I switched accounts to PC, Im still readding people

[fervent grotto]

I want giant red barrels on each side of every vehicle. That way when you shoot it once it blows up in a firey Inferno

[wide shore]

Hopefully that means it’ll be easier to kill with gunfire too

[proud gorge]

[cobalt flower]

"The missing bullet on the M44 has been located"

[dapper river]

RIP my beloved

[next isle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/965637925071114260/mybeloved.gif

[grizzled jungle]

fortnite or battlefield 2042?!?!

[cobalt flower]

its like putting a tank of propane on the back of your bike :)

[cobalt flower]

unfunny

[dapper river]

Marques Brownlee

[quiet shell]

Looks like they also went back and improved/fixed the animations

[fervent grotto]

COD

[severe carbon]

All in all these notes look okay, though the vast majority of the changes wont affect me at all. I'm a little disappointed because what I want most of all is rebalancing guns/vehicles and map changes, but I guess we'll have to wait more for that. Will be nice to get rid of the ads bug, the grenade indicator bug, the no revive bug, and hopefully have the insertion beacon issues fixed. Nice to have worse pkp recoil and easier to kill bolte passengers too. I'm a little concerned about totally changing up some of the attachment effects, I think that'll be confusing for people and maybe slightly annoying to adjust to a new loadout.

[quiet shell]

No more broken arm while sprinting

[radiant prism]

"A specific concrete block was causing the T28 to become stuck. The T28 has overcome its fear and can now traverse over it"

[cobalt flower]

[dapper river]

at least they're having fun writing these patch notes lol

[proud gorge]

Dice needs to do a god tier move to win all the players back lol

[radiant prism]

I love when patch notes can poke fun at issues with the game

[wide shore]

Unfortunately the attachment stuff still seems vague. They only highlighted a few things. I want suppressors to affect damage less so that they’re actually useful.

[cobalt flower]

oooh the vehicle changes are going through this patch too

[grizzled whale]

they are never gonna win ALL the players back

[proud gorge]

No more bolt spam cause it’s going to armour tab now and removed from transport

[grizzled whale]

is someone actually gonna count the changes to see if its actually 400+ ?

[severe carbon]

i dont think this update brings players back in droves, maybe some out of curiosity but it isn't really a massive update for most people im guessing, really just alleviates some headaches for people still playing. Maybe S1 will bring in new players, whenever that'll be

[cobalt flower]

i can assure you that its 400

[wide shore]

Hell no it took me 30+ mins to read it all.

[chilly oak]

probably someone who wants to complain on reddit

[elder patrol]

I shall do it for the team

[silk surge]

Jesus, this is a long list.

[grizzled whale]

i shall send you spaghetti images and gifs as a thank you

[severe carbon]

These notes say next update coming in May bringing qol and bug fixes, does that mean no season 1 until at least June 😑

[grizzled whale]

which was already known for months

[radiant prism]

I don't really care if its actually 400. Its a pretty fuckin long list so I'll take that as I can probably take their word for it and its positive

[next isle]

Well, there's 456 <li> tags

[chilly oak]

Dam, respect

[severe carbon]

didnt they say early summer or something, I was holding out for a very broad definition of summer lol

[cobalt flower]

but you gotta get mad for some reason

[cobalt flower]

june is early summer

[grizzled whale]

^

[severe carbon]

if weather is hot its summer 😤

[grizzled whale]

thats not how that works

[fervent grotto]

Yea huh

[severe carbon]

I dont subscribe to your meteorological beliefs

[kindred elm]

If you met a cheater irl would you beat them up?

[fervent grotto]

I believe weather is a front by the government to cover up the giant crane that’s holding the earth up in the sky

[brittle forge]

The weather is a lie

[fervent grotto]

The universe is a giant construction site

[kindred elm]

My life is a lie

[dapper river]

wait so do sprinklers not do damage across the board or only on kaleidoscope? because fuck me I hate that fire suppression bullshit that freezes the entire room. how is that practical? imagine in real life if there was a fire in a building you were in and the sprinkler system kills everyone in the building.

[severe carbon]

people are saying this

[grizzled whale]

actually its phenology, but okay

[proud gorge]

Go back to 2042 and farm AI for tier 1 lol

[low timber]

Wait, so the rattlesnake grip is just turning into a worse version of the laser pointer?

[wide shore]

Pretty sure is across the board

[wide shore]

Well, if they’re not touching the stubby grip you can get the same affect with that

[cobalt flower]

the rattlesnake grip would make for a pretty shitty laser pointer tbh

[low timber]

Yeah but that stubby grip looks awful.

[severe carbon]

lmao I was thinking the same thing

[wide shore]

[silk surge]

Damn... They removed Paik's passive that 3d spots enemies that supressed or hit you.

[pine roost]

I don’t see that as a bad thing

[low timber]

Rao has that now

[dapper river]

good

[dapper river]

fuck!!!!!!!

[kindred elm]

Has anyone realized now that, triple AAA titles are adding ESP perks?

[silk surge]

I guess I'm switching to Rao lmao. That ability was the only thing that made Paik effective. Her 3d scanner does more harm than good.

[kindred elm]

Kinda weird

[night vessel]

Everyone's happy about the update until DICE nerfs the objective conquest score points

[low timber]

And i only wanted a Rao buff where his hacking hijacked instead disable enemy gadgets

[dapper river]

"EMG ACTIVE "
What she doesn't know: is constantly pinged on the minimap for the duration the gadget is active

[silk surge]

I'm so close to T1 Paik. I only need like 200 more spots. I need to finish it today.

[elder patrol]

Okay I counted 435, i might have missed a couple but that's the closest it comes to

[low timber]

But after patch Paik mastery gets easier?

[dapper river]

it's just spots and kill assists from spots, right?

[edgy oriole]

does this mean lock on is finally fixed. i personally only ever got stuck on yellow but this makes it seem that its fixed.

[silk surge]

Yeah

[low timber]

As then you spot enemies you damage, and it says that progresses the master

[silk surge]

I'm super disappointed that they didn't nerf Boris in this update. That turret is gamebreaking at times.

[heavy kraken]

it's better to have dice work on the bugs as top priority before dlc's comes in

[elder patrol]

Indeed, it's pretty broken

[silk surge]

I'm gonna play more Sundance now that they have fixed her anti-armor. Her T1 might be doable now.

[night vessel]

That made me giggle slightly when scrolling down the patch notes xD

[heavy kraken]

dont be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes

[warped pulsar]

nice to know the sprinklers no longer cause damage, could have some nice foggy combat

[silk surge]

"Falck’s S21 Syrette Pistol can now be equipped while swimming" Oo

[grizzled whale]

equiped, but can you shoot?

[silk surge]

"Made it easier for Mackay to grapple onto moving vehicles" OOOOO!! I smell Battlefield moments.

[heavy kraken]

nice name lol

[heavy kraken]

only in battlefield 😳

[analog fractal]

Another nice name

[heavy kraken]

lol

[elder patrol]

I hope they actually fixed that tho. Cause i hated when you grapple to a vehicle and it just gets stuck in the air

[analog fractal]

They really gave Sundance a helmet for the trailer and then got rid of it for no reason

[heavy kraken]

wait

is it only steam with less than 1000 players active

[silk surge]

There was this one guy during the open beta that grappled onto an osprey and blew it up with C5. That was the coolest shit that came out of the beta.

[radiant prism]

Yes, steam doesn't account for Origin players or console players.

[hard plume]

Why isn’t anyone talking about the greatest fix coming tomorrow, no more sprinkler damage on kaleidoscope!!!!

[heavy kraken]

ahh

[dapper river]

they fucked up when they "buffed" him and made it so his turret doesn't die when he gets downed.

The flow used to be: encounter Boris turret -> is Boris around? -> if yes, prioritize Boris and kill him so the turret also dies, if no, kill turret

Now you basically have to prioritize the turret no matter what, and while you're distracted shooting the turret, the Boris who has wallhacks on you from being spotted by the turret gets an easy kill. If you decide to kill the Boris first, you get finished off by the turret. Want to EMP the turret? You need to expose yourself to it and get spotted by the Boris in the process. It's lose-lose either way.

[analog fractal]

The sprinkler damage was bullshit and never made sense

[heavy kraken]

imagine if console player base is way more than 1000, maybe even 10,000

[hard plume]

Yeah it was dumb

[analog fractal]

I liked the effect of it tho

Looked cool

[elder patrol]

Nah it was bad

[heavy kraken]

i still have hope for battlefield 2042 to make a huge comeback, like what battlefield 4 did

[severe carbon]

I didnt hate the sprinkler effect but they did too much damage and prevented me from healing which was too much

[analog fractal]

I didn't mind it, it's realistic that your vision get impaired by sprinklers

[night vessel]

Kinda sad the wildcat and MAV didn't get no slightl buffs

[severe carbon]

and they sort of disorient you by showing damage around you

[heavy kraken]

sprinklers?

[grizzled whale]

why would the wildcat need a buff?

[radiant prism]

It should just be a cool visual effect, this change makes it exactly how it should be

[analog fractal]

The damage effect was bs, it was OK beside it imo

[warped pulsar]

that fog that was fire from above while inside buildings

[heavy kraken]

on what map?

[silk surge]

I can't find any gunplay changes aside from the weapon attachments. I was hoping that they would finally nerf AC-42. That thing is a god gun right now.

[quiet shell]

Not seeing any notes about getting rid of the end of match specialist quips

[elder patrol]

They did nerf it tho

[warped pulsar]

renewal and kaleidoscope

[pine roost]

They nerfed it slightly

[silk surge]

Oh... I guess I missed it. That list is so overwhelmingly long lmao

[dapper river]

50MM wildcat with AT missiles is already a tank eviscerator, but I'm hoping they buff it anyways

[heavy kraken]

ahh, idk if i've experienced it yet

[night vessel]

Shit feels like a main battle tank.
It's horsepower is lacking a lot and I wish it had the same horsepower as a LAV-25 from BF4.
The wildcat should be more mobile than a tank because it's in wheels you know.

[grizzled whale]

they did make it easier to go uphill

[night vessel]

True

[grizzled whale]

which was literally the only downside to it

[night vessel]

But horsepower still lacking man

[hard plume]

Tbh i’m waiting for level cap or jack to make a vid on it so i can follow along at work

[elder patrol]

Here Sundance

[river trench]

Did the wildcat get a buff?

[silk surge]

I'm going with Rattlesnake Light Grip on AC-42. It now improves hipfire at the cost of ADS.

[grizzled whale]

nah, it has more firepower than a MBT, so it makes sense its not that fast

[hard plume]

Kinda i think

[night vessel]

Only a slight buff but no horsepower buff

[warped pulsar]

it's a very nasty effect, glad the damaged is gone in the update and the frost effects is getting greatly reduced

[silk surge]

Yeah same. That list gives me a headache lmao.

[river trench]

Nice cuz the wildcat needed a buff

[heavy kraken]

ahh

[silk surge]

Not saying it's a bad thing, but there are sooo soo many bugfixes.

[grizzled whale]

how

[heavy kraken]

ooh, dm me the link to the patch notes?

[analog fractal]

No content whatsoever is a bit disappointing, even though I didn't expect any

[sweet barn]

did 2042 already get abandoned like BFV did?

[grizzled whale]

the wildcat as is already has more firepower than a MBT, and is faster

[warped pulsar]

most of all, I cannot wait to finally never see the ADS and revive bug, I had to avoid vehicles for so long

[river trench]

Its kinda weak

[heavy kraken]

yes, kinda

[hard plume]

Yea fr, i don’t have the time to read it all lol. I skimmed a bit

[arctic grove]

No

[silk surge]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-4-0?utm_campaign=bf2042_hd_ww_ic_socd_twt_update4-0-web&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cid=73367&ts=1650294934032 In case anyone else wanted a link as well.

[grizzled whale]

weak as in health or weak as in firepower?

[river trench]

Health

[night vessel]

What ? Wildcat is not fucking fast are you fucking crazy it's the same top speed as the main battle tank

[arctic grove]

No

[grizzled whale]

its faster

[night vessel]

It's not mate

[grizzled whale]

yes it is, its slightly faster

[silk surge]

I actually feel optimistic about the game's future for once. This update really lived up to DICE's hype of it.

[night vessel]

[elder patrol]

I just realised we get less xp from capturing objectives

[pine roost]

Yeah not sure why they did that

[grizzled whale]

ive probably got about 100 hours of wildcat playtime, i can tell you the wildcat is 100% faster than the MBT, although not by much

[edgy oriole]

whats the difference total? i remember reading less for neutralizing and more for capping.

[silk surge]

"Assists can now trigger when a teammate kills an enemy and either of them were covered in smoke you deployed." NIIIIICE

[silk surge]

I always have smoke grenade in my loadout, this is huge.

[night vessel]

You are legit talking to a vehicle expert of battlefield here mate...
I'm telling you right now the wildcat and Main battle tank have the same horsepower and speed.

[grizzled whale]

lol, no they dont

[elder patrol]

They're both 200xp now but cap used to be 375 and neutralized was like 300

[grizzled whale]

self proclaimed "vehicle expert" kek

[chilly oak]

to balance other xp buffs

[clear quail]

"Dozer now becomes vulnerable for a short time when the SOB-8 Ballistic Shield is hit by heavy fire such as from tanks"
Finally

[edgy oriole]

does this mean bolte missiles gonna be popping off every 3 seconds?

[clear quail]

not sure

[arctic grove]

“Vehicle expert” 😭😭

[edgy oriole]

oof i wonder why they did that. people already dont play obj now-a-days

[chilly oak]

to balance other xp buffs

[surreal crystal]

“Vehicle expert”

[night vessel]

Even tho I'm a vehicle main. The Wildcat still feels sluggish and slow. It has the same movement speed and feeling of MBT. That's from my experience alone.

[grizzled whale]

wildcat is faster

[arctic grove]

According to my calculations, the wildcat goes 4mph slower than the MBT 🤓

[edgy oriole]

just finished reading patch notes and i gotta say.
this shit bussin

[elder patrol]

It do be scrumptious

[surreal crystal]

Would be nice to have some new content

[arctic grove]

Sorry. No content until like 9 months after launch!!

[surreal crystal]

😞

[chilly oak]

new modes? new attatchments replacing old ones? new skins?

[clear quail]

gotta fix the game before they add new content. So far it's the step in the right direction. Can't wait for tmrw

[edgy oriole]

this update fixed the rest of the launch issues plus new issues. if nothing else major pops up they made plenty room for content focus now

[surreal crystal]

True shit i agree

[clear quail]

exactly

[solid imp]

Agreed, I can't think of one of the major bugs that isn't on this fix list

[arctic grove]

Different modes in AoW? Do we have to grind the new attachments? Weekly skins are so cool and fun to grind!!!!

[solid imp]

I just might miss the ADS bug... RIP little guy

[elder patrol]

Well maybe one

[dapper berry]

it really made you feel like battlefield

[silk surge]

I'm really excited to see how the game plays after this update has been applied.

[clear quail]

tbh, most of the bugs I've faced might be fixed by tmrw's update

[surreal crystal]

Same

[dapper river]

I truly felt like this was one of the games of all time

[pine roost]

It seems to me like they’ve cracked down on most of the little annoyances that disrupt your gameplay when you notice them. Which should help somewhat but still not enough for me personally to get back into it

The attachments though, that could be interesting

[silk surge]

First thing on my schedule once the update arrives is to try grappling helis as Mackay. Only in Battlefield style.

I just hope we won't be introduced to 400 new bugs.

[clear quail]

I can't wait to try Rao, ma boi got his buff

[dapper river]

don't worry, the 4.1 hotfix will squash like, 10 or so of those

[clear quail]

[solid imp]

I mean... it's BF lol. But I've been optimistic this whole time so I ain't changing course now with update 4 fixing really everything we know about (so far)

[silk surge]

Yeah, Rao is actually good now. Paik was in the lowest tier when it comes to specialists... and they nerfed her??

[river trench]

What he got

[solid imp]

Noooo she didn't get nerfed

[dapper berry]

passive spotting when shot at

[elder patrol]

Again?

[solid imp]

did you see what they added???? Eagle eye ability???

[river trench]

Whatsthat

[dapper berry]

she got a huge buff

[silk surge]

They removed her 3d spotting enemies that shot at her ability and gave it to rao. Now she spots enemies that she shoots at instead.

[solid imp]

She shoots someone and they're spotted for the whole team!

[turbid flax]

my pay pal is my uncle is kinda cute 69420 pls gib money pls gib money @allu @I Love Christmas Cats

[solid imp]

she ain't nerfed lol

[dapper berry]

ok sent

[low timber]

Btw was there nothing about laser changes if they changed the rattlesnake grip to also do hip fire? Like is there really any point to use rattlesnake when laser does the same and doesn’t have accuracy negatives?

[silk surge]

I honestly prefer her old passive. It was so useful while sniping.

[dapper river]

paik at least has a cool T4 skin. same with mackay and falk. They actually look like uniformed soldiers, imagine that!

[low timber]

Then use Rao when sniping?

[solid imp]

But picture this... she's a recon oriented soldier... and by that I don't mean "I snipe so I'm recon". I mean she performs recon tasks. She is 100% aligned to that goal now.

[elder patrol]

Nah mate use irish or angel when sniping

[silk surge]

She's BFV field recon now

[solid imp]

Paik with EMG, Eagle Eye, SOFLAM or proxy... that is a pure Kill Assist support role, game over for anyone else getting #1 kill assist score at the end lol

[dapper river]

recon players when they have to do actual reconnaissance:

[clear quail]

-Rao’s Cyber Warfare Suite should now feel more responsive
-Resolved bugs related to using the Cyber Warfare Suite ability without an active target
-Once the Cyber Warfare Suite ability finishes, your target is now reset
-Replaced Trojan Network with the Thread Perception Trait:
-When Rao takes damage from enemy fire, he will automatically spot the enemy for himself

[chilly oak]

talking about portal new modes, new attachments are new content and whether you find it fun, skins are content

[turbid flax]

@hess my pay pal is my uncle is kinda cute 69420 pls gib money pls gib money

[solid imp]

Right and Rao is relevant now. He can hack more effectively and picks up some extra recon ability.

[arctic grove]

He’s pretty much paiks old ability

[arctic grove]

well im talking about AoW and yes it is content, but people want something to do in the game. not sit there and try out new attachments lmao

[river trench]

excited to see how the game will look like

How many hours left?

[chilly oak]

new modes

[clear quail]

giving rao paiks old ability is a good buff

[chilly oak]

tomorrow 9am uk time

[solid imp]

14?

[clear quail]

cuz I never used to use the Trojan ability and my Rao's at mastery 50

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[river trench]

@solid imp nice pfp btw

[arctic grove]

Same but I just use soflam

[arctic grove]

i meant AoW, my fault og

[clear quail]

i realized that you could use Soflam when i was close to 40

grinded the hell outta matches until then

[chilly oak]

well 64 conquest and breakthrough play out differently, different parts of the map get used

[solid imp]

Same.. way too hard to pull that off with the fast pace of the game

Rao just needs spots, he doesn't really care how you get them to hit his mastery

[grizzled whale]

Time to push mackay to mastery 400 now his graple has been fixed

[arctic grove]

Ya lol it still took a bit but when I got tier one I stopped playing him really only wanted badge

[grizzled whale]

I think im at mastery 359

[solid imp]

thx mate

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah that's a hard buff

[dapper river]

Anti-Armor Grenades no longer target Irish’s Deployable Cover or APS-36 Shootdown Sentry
hidden boris buff wtf

[solid imp]

Hey Sundance... speaking of Sundance 🙂
I truly cannot wait to try her out again with all those fixes to the smart grenades.

[clear quail]

sem, but I actually like his ability. He needed a buff so I quit playing as him. But maybe tmrw's update will change that

[river trench]

Did angle do it again and get a buff?

[chilly oak]

thats better, if u aim for a tank it would sometimes go for turret

[grizzled whale]

New strat, play as falck, use 12m shotgun(with infinite range) stand on top of kaleidoscope, spam enemy objectives from above, easy wallhacka for the whole team

[copper fulcrum]

He got fixes, not really a buff

[edgy oriole]

how is this boris buff

[chilly oak]

and buffed scatter

[dapper river]

wait maybe the shootdown sentry is the trophy system lol whups

[clear quail]

angel basically got no buffs or nerfs

[grizzled whale]

Angel is perfect

[chilly oak]

he just got fixes, not a buff

[arctic grove]

I’m gonna get Casper to T1

[solid imp]

angel needs no buffs haha

[grizzled whale]

You can just check the patchnotes yourself

[arctic grove]

Ya ya he has good potential and it’s always cool have a committed roa on your team bc it actually really helps with vehicles and extra recon

[clear quail]

wrong tag xd

[grizzled whale]

Nope

[clear quail]

i never asked if he did tho

[solid imp]

Rao was maybe my favorite master so far even though I didn't contribute to the mastery at all by hacking anything. Nothing brings me more joy than ending a little bird's attack run maybe 1 rocket into it

[river trench]

Angel>>>>

[grizzled whale]

Oh mb

[clear quail]

ye np

[arctic grove]

Lmaooo yes

[solid imp]

and now I can do that by shooting out the pilot thorugh the UPPER GLASS!!

[dapper river]

Right so the APS-36 is Irish's trophy system, and the SG-36 is the sentry turret. DICE, wtf. this is almost as bad as 3 different things having "M5" as their name.

[clear quail]

exactly

[copper fulcrum]

I mean, real life militaries do have bad naming systems tbh

[grizzled whale]

question, what is everyone highest mastery

[dapper river]

I think i have like 90-something on sensor grenades.

[copper fulcrum]

Look at World War II

Here I am wearing my M1 Helmet, holding my M3 Grease Gun, in an M3 Half-Track while my friend is taking care of his M1 Garand and my other friend has his M1A1 Carbine

[grizzled whale]

[copper fulcrum]

Have you seen an S999 yet?

[next onyx]

Same here with Mackay, Best for my playstyle.

[grizzled whale]

Nope, there is one account at s999 though, but its a shared account

[next onyx]

I don't like the fact that a faster ADS speed is locked to a single character since they could balance it well on other stats but whatever.

[grizzled whale]

hyper agressive, me too

[copper fulcrum]

Would you like to know who is best for my playstyle?

[grizzled whale]

i guess sundance

[dapper river]

yeah but when aren't you ever at a height advantage in BF? and what counts? 1 meter? half meter?

[copper fulcrum]

Literally an inch higher and it counts

[edgy oriole]

falck prolly my highest since i use her exclusively now. only like 46ish or something. was doing all heros to 40/t1 but got super bored when i started using assault class.

[wanton magnet]

I read through the notes and I guess I missed it, they switched boltes to armor right? And the MAV to transport?

[copper fulcrum]

I remember a streamer got to Tier 1 Mackay by ramming someone with a Tuk-Tuk

[clear quail]

"Added an ejector seat for the F-35E Panther when in Hover Mode"

[solid imp]

I got it in my head to try and master as many things as I could even if I hate doing "the thing"... I have spread my time way too much to have much to brag on any one thing 😦

[next onyx]

Share then.

[copper fulcrum]

Boris

[next onyx]

I'd abuse angel more if I played the game more considering how stupid armour is.

[copper fulcrum]

Armor is top notch

[solid imp]

Grinds my gears getting nothing but blue hit marks

[copper fulcrum]

Just throw it to absolutely everyone

Put it on a fucking tank and watch it still resupply people

[next onyx]

It's fucking dumb. Even if it helps you survive one more shot, That's still bloody significant enough.

[elder patrol]

Angel op

[low timber]

So Warhawk compensator goes from reducing right and left recoil to reducing all recoil?

[next onyx]

Seems so.

[silk surge]

What am I doing with my life?

[copper fulcrum]

Having fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A

[chilly oak]

ez buff

[copper fulcrum]

Listen to the fucking song >:(

[dapper river]

[copper fulcrum]

I am, it's a good song

[clear quail]

It's a classic song, wdym good

[copper fulcrum]

Indeed a classic

[solid imp]

He is BUT it's balanced by people using him either to get his mastery badge before moving on, or those who truly play to have fun being the support guy (me) while a lot of other people want to do other things. Not saying angel can't play all styles. He can. But how many pure Mackays want to lose their grapple or Sundance losing the wingsuit?

Sigh.. that was supposed to be a reply to someone saying Angel is OP lol

[copper fulcrum]

I wonder how the AI will start using repair tools lol

[arctic grove]

Hey is there people still playing this ? I was trying to find a game earlier today and could only get in matches with bots

[olive kernel]

How does Red Dead Online have more players than 2042 and RDO hasn’t received a substantial update in over 2 years

[solid imp]

Region. I usually have no trouble finding/loading matches... could be a bunch of bots at first but it usually fills

[clear quail]

depends, are u NA or Asia?

[arctic grove]

NA

[copper fulcrum]

Make sure to turn on Crossplay

[clear quail]

ah idk about NA but it does have a bigger player count that Asia most times

[arctic grove]

i was looking and on steam theres like only 1-2k people playing now

[clear quail]

You can only play 128 Conquest in Asia

sad asian noises

[copper fulcrum]

AI Soldiers can now repair combat vehicles in All-Out Warfare
I wonder if they're going to act like repair monkeys or just wait for it to go to 100 and run off back to their AI Squad

[edgy oriole]

theyll prolly take it out. run towards vehicle, vehicle will drive away, theyll stand there for 2 seconds, get gun out and run away

[solid imp]

This caught my eye as well.. shame that they fixed the repair torch + dozer shield = deflected bullets spraying everywhere lol... otherwise would be great to see an AI just standing there trying to torch their way through Dozer and causing mayhem.

[copper fulcrum]

Now I wonder if they'll try to kill with a repair tool lol

[solid imp]

I wouldn't even mind.. that's always epic

[clear quail]

jackfrags prolly out here makin a vid on this rn

[pulsar vine]

What level do you have to reach to get into the reds? Lvl 100?

[edgy oriole]

ye

[severe carbon]

NA almost always has players on, assuming you aren't on last gen console. Make sure you have crossplay turned on and try breakthrough 128 or conquest 128, I can usually get full servers there. Sometimes it takes a few minutes for a server to fill up though

[solid imp]

[clear quail]

yup

[copper fulcrum]

Also, one of the funnier changes in this

A specific concrete block was causing the T28 to become stuck. The T28 has overcome its fear and can now traverse over it

[pulsar vine]

Neat so 20 lvls away

[clear quail]

ye

[solid imp]

Teehee also the one where they found the missing bullet 😂

[grizzled whale]

sad to see they havent fixed scope glints yet

[edgy oriole]

whats wrong with them

[solid imp]

Didn't they just add more scope glint to the soflam in last update?

[copper fulcrum]

The Recoilless is a better sniper anyways

[edgy oriole]

i used to have a video on me sniping someone with a m5 but i did a clean boot of my pc and its gone now 😦

[clear quail]

I think they added scope glint in the previous update. It never had scope glint if im right

[warped pulsar]

gonna take forever to read all the patch notes

[frosty mural]

Replaced Threat Perception with the Eagle Eyed Trait:
Players damaged by Paik are now spotted for everyone

It was only for Paik prior update?

[solid imp]

ahh yea that sounds right

[copper fulcrum]

It did, it's just... bigger lol

[warped pulsar]

yep, only that one player could see them

[frosty mural]

bit OP

[solid imp]

I really can't wait to try this out.. that little bitty damage I do with the pbx at range now explodes out to a wildly useful 2 or 3 damage 😄

[copper fulcrum]

They're now better as Recon players

[clear quail]

rao is definitely better

[copper fulcrum]

People tend to forget Rao can hack doors

[clear quail]

and those bridges

[solid imp]

I love Rao and I forget that all the time sad to say.. and bridges too I think right?

[clear quail]

in kaleidoscope ye

[copper fulcrum]

He can also hack Elevators for some reason

[solid imp]

ehhh what does that even do..

[copper fulcrum]

makes them go

[solid imp]

hm.

[copper fulcrum]

Rao is just a long ranged E key

[solid imp]

LOL

[clear quail]

stops enemies from pushing to A top using the elevator

same thing with E top

[solid imp]

But I mean those elevators usually come in at least pairs or a whole row

[edgy oriole]

once i figured out rao can hack drones. i fell in love with that handsome man

[clear quail]

no homo ofc

[solid imp]

and Kaleidoscope tower has those 2 or 3 up the stairs to the right on the rooftop with the 3 down below

[edgy oriole]

full on......... 😐

[clear quail]

it has psychological impacts for the enemy

[solid imp]

fair

[copper fulcrum]

Rao can hack Rangers, Drones, Turrets, I think the Shootdown Sentry

[clear quail]

you wouldn't wanna hop into an elevator that's rogue

[clear quail]

ye he can

[chilly oak]

all this makes me wanna play rao

[clear quail]

he can hack into players too

[copper fulcrum]

Rao is really good, people just forget what he can do

[edgy oriole]

big brain play is to hack the trophy system and have a squadmates tank kill the boys hiding behind it

[copper fulcrum]

I think he can somehow hack Irish's shield

[clear quail]

bigger brain would be to hack the deployment system of the enemy thereby winning the war instantly

[solid imp]

Saw it posted here awhile back and LOVE the idea someone came up with... can't remember who it was... Rao hacks the Boris turret and it promptly turns on its master. I just cannot stop laughing at the thought of Boris with his mouth full of marbles grumbling something about, " what are you DOING little one?! " while taking damage from his own bot.

[clear quail]

fr?

[edgy oriole]

ayo. this a good idea. hol up

[copper fulcrum]

I think, it might've been glitched lol

[wide shore]

I feel like Paik with an LMG and her new traits are gonna go crazy

[clear quail]

how do u hack a shield tho

[copper fulcrum]

I still think Boris's turret should be manually controlled instead of automatically

[copper fulcrum]

It's the future, son.

[clear quail]

would be too op

hackable shields are the future, i see

[chilly oak]

no, borris turret isnt nearly as people say imo, just the fact that it can shoot through bushes/smoke

[clear quail]

yup

[chilly oak]

flashback conquest is back lets go

[solid imp]

kinda.. but what if you take away it's super fast rotation to lock onto a target if it's manually controlled? Also still limited to firing a few rounds before it cools down.

[copper fulcrum]

Flashback Conquest is better than Infantry Conquest

[clear quail]

basically makes it a stationary vehicle with a turret

[muted dove]

Wow, I'm still on this server.

[next onyx]

The turret can spot people through walls.

Round the corner of the walls.

Which is honestly dumb as hell.