battlefield-2042

[shy latch]

I heard it runs pretty smooth on consoles (I'm talking about the next-gen ones)

[simple reef]

Not from what I've seen. I always see complaints regarding 'next-gen' performance on the sub.

[glad mist]

BF4 had 10 gamemodes

meanwhile doesn't 2042 still have no rush yet?

[desert elbow]

It always had it

[glad mist]

i don't recall there being rush at launch

[simple reef]

The thing that kills modern BF's is EA's and DICE's mentality that they can just release a broken product and fix it later.

[lethal tinsel]

impossible to find a game in eu?? :O

[simple reef]

Same with Battlefront, except Battlefront 2 is a really good game now.

[simple reef]

Platform? Crossplay on?

[lethal tinsel]

pc and crossplay yes

[simple reef]

What modes are you searching for?

[lethal tinsel]

hmm conquest i think

what are the hottest modes?

[simple reef]

Hmm, that's strange. I typically find games within 10 seconds, longer for Hazard Zone.

Conquest is the most-played, I believe. You tried Breakthrough?

[lethal tinsel]

hm let me try

[simple reef]

And if that doesn't work, try the Portal rotation featured modes. A lot of people in those, too.

[lethal tinsel]

will try

i tried all the portal modes

[opal cedar]

hazard is boring

[simple reef]

I find it fun.

[opal cedar]

the players you play against are bad

[simple reef]

The majority are bots lol.

[glad mist]

nah

nobody would give a shit if this was BF4 2.0

core problems of the latest battlefields are the devs having no backbone to design the games like actual battlefield games with all its features and balancing coming with said features.
Theyre trying to appeal casual players outside of the bf fanbase more and more and it showed with 2042

imagine a modern battlefield with no 3d spotting, which only noobs cried about as being OP instead of using it themself

part of the reason 2042 is so shidd with the fuccton of vehicles there are on these oversized maps

not to mention how shit and clunky the vehicles themself play

[lethal tinsel]

any eu wanna team up? im up for all except hazard zone

[runic prism]

Ur talking shit now. On my ps5 it runs really smooth .

[hard plume]

Whats wrong with appealing to casual fans

[desert elbow]

I can guarantee your favourite Battlefield game has had 'casualised' elements

The only exception is if your favourite is BF1942

[glad mist]

couldn't care less lol
atleast those elements made sense and were fun

and weren't squeezed into the game at cost of it's design and overall end result of it's core gameplay

as it is clearly the case in 2042 with the removal of class and vehicle specific progression, removal of equipment that requires more than a fishbrain to use effectively

[desert elbow]

So you think the removal to walk around on vehicles for example made the game more fun?

[glad mist]

you can't walk on vehicles anymore?

i didn't even know about that one lmao

[desert elbow]

Ikr, if you think a detail that miniscule is a factor which people complain about you should see the things people are crying about over 2042

[glad mist]

sitting on a tank and using it as transport was always a good sport

[desert elbow]

It's funny how you're pointing out the fact that my example was such a trivial detail, yet half the things you're crying about make no difference at all

[glad mist]

tank ragdol isn't a core feature tho

unlike classes and progression which were always necessary to balance equipment

[desert elbow]

Both of which are in 2042

[glad mist]

or give players a goal to play the hame

[glad mist]

not at all LOL

[desert elbow]

They are though

[glad mist]

unless you want to call snipers with rpgs balanced

or snipers with medic and ammo bags

[desert elbow]

Battlefield? Balance? lmao

[glad mist]

unheard of by casual fps gamers, i know

[shell dock]

Is breakthrough dead? Been waiting for 20 min

[glad mist]

[glad mist]

game is likely too dead

[desert elbow]

Battlefield has always been casual lmao

[glad mist]

TV missles, JDAMs, TOW missles, guns with actual recoil and vehicles with actual flight and drive models disagree

[shell dock]

If you don’t play to have in bf then wtf are you even doing

[shell dock]

Bf=casual

[desert elbow]

Battlefield has always been casual tho

When did the guns have "actual" recoil?

[glad mist]

clearly never used a CZ or FAMAS then

[desert elbow]

In which game

[glad mist]

or MP7

BF3/4

or a SCAR-H

guns you actually had to learn how to use

[thorn helm]

guns with actual bullet velocity

[glad mist]

yeah

[desert elbow]

Ah yes because you can totally learn random deviation

[glad mist]

it was never random tho??

[desert elbow]

Or tapfiring if you want to hit anything over 30m

[shell dock]

It has always been random

2042 is dead… can’t find a match

[glad mist]

each gun had a specific pattern you could learn and control with a mix of burst and full auto

[hearty flame]

I mean on the overall scale, bf is a casual game when games like arma, squad, hell let loose exist

[glad mist]

i should know, i played every single gun there is on 3 and 4

only exception being chinese guns in 4 which are lasers beams

more or less

[runic prism]

Can someone help me

I accidentally did my weapon a burst cancer game

I want full auto how can i change it on console . Im still in the match

[tiny imp]

why did they remove BC2 in modern setting in portal?

[desert elbow]

The spread was definitely random

[glad mist]

also tanks and vehicles were rewarding to use and play too

helos and jets with an actual flight model, a long missing relict since bf1

[desert elbow]

Flight model?

[glad mist]

amazing, right?
you wouldnt know since stuff in 2042,V and 1 lacks any of that

[desert elbow]

I never even told you what Battlefield games I played lmao

[glad mist]

it already shows which ones you played since you are talking out of your ass lol

[desert elbow]

You literally said Battlefield wasn't always casual lmao

[glad mist]

either that or you prolly never pay that much attention to the games you play

[desert elbow]

You could always try exiting your house once in a while

[glad mist]

ah yes, the casuals war cry

[desert elbow]

Once again, Battlefield has always been casual

[glad mist]

shooo

[shell dock]

Cope harder

[thorn helm]

all dice needs to do is go to a weapons field with majority of Future arms and Modern put tacer rounds in all their bullets to test realistic velocity Map that into the game with sound recordings up scale maps ina way including Future maps and stuff 200% resolution up scale skybox for air vehicles

[glad mist]

im defo coping

wont make 2042 less dead tho

or less shit

[tiny imp]

yesterday fnb was fun. CQ with BC 2 classic mobility settings.

why did they remove it? :((

[hearty flame]

bfs got some stuff to raise the skill ceiling but it is and always has been a casual game

[cedar turtle]

216 people are watching BF2042 on Twitch at the moment.

[shell dock]

That we can agree on

[hearty flame]

is that better or worse than usual?

[cedar turtle]

It's less than viewership during most weekdays surprisingly.

[desert elbow]

@glad mist Either way, making a game more casual isn't necessarily a bad thing. A lot of the really good Battlefields are examples

[glad mist]

its got alot of stuff to raise the skill ceiling and lower the skill floor

[arctic grove]

Ture something the more simple game is more fun

[glad mist]

or had. Im seeing this any time i play with my friend who doesnt play bf4 as much as i do and he barely knows how to fly a helo or drive a tank

[thorn helm]

Operation Plumbbob, Project 58/58A

[glad mist]

let alone gun down infantry with a stealth jet or jdam campers

[cedar turtle]

That ain't no friend of mine!

[glad mist]

you literally don't know what "casualizing" means in that example im not refering to casual and competitive as in there being CSGO and Fortnite

[thorn helm]

whatabout call in artillery... Rocket, Mine Layers, standard ect.

[glad mist]

aka skill floors and skill ceilings being narrowed down is over-casualizing the game

[arctic grove]

https://twitter.com/alextechnically/status/1515006433783336964?s=21&t=iGElmjvHpPgOJK1R-pSxTA

[cedar turtle]

Casual is like a nice soft pair of sweatpants

[glad mist]

as its clearly the case in 2042 and even free2play titles such as world of tanks recently

[arctic grove]

did you know that the level of detail and quality of in-game assets in 2042 is insane

[glad mist]

those are braindead to use pretty much xd

[arctic grove]

yep apparently so

[glad mist]

very low on the skill spectrum

[desert elbow]

That's my point, decreasing the skill ceiling to some degree can make the game more fun

[arctic grove]

decreasing the skill ceiling is stupid

[glad mist]

^

[cedar turtle]

I love that tweet uses a photo that isn't actual gameplay 🤣

[arctic grove]

you only lower the skill ceiling to artificially cripple skilled players and give shitty players a chance

[glad mist]

^^^^

[desert elbow]

It's weird, some things look amazing in the game - but some look things look really low quality, it's strange

[arctic grove]

see what happened with overwatch?

[glad mist]

in WoT?

[desert elbow]

My point is Battlefield has always been a casual franchise, so the gameplay is not dependant on having a high skill ceiling

[acoustic oar]

from a company point of view its a good idea to lower the skil ceiling so more people have fun and buy the game

[glad mist]

oh, OverW(M)atch xd

[arctic grove]

why would the game not have a high skill ceiling?

[desert elbow]

because it's a casual game in a casual franchise, I'm not saying a high skill ceiling is bad, I'm just saying it's not something to be surprised about

[glad mist]

cause shitters cry about getting farmed by harder and more rewarding equipment

same reason they removed allchat and didnt put a scoreboard into the game initially

[arctic grove]

and whats the problem with rewarding good players?

[thorn helm]

New Maps?
Test site
NTS Area 12, Rainier Mesa
NTS Areas 5, 11, Frenchman Flat
NTS, Areas 1–4, 6–10, Yucca Flat

[desert elbow]

What does allchat have to do with skill lol

[glad mist]

it hurts casuals feelings to get shittalked

[desert elbow]

Nothing, rewards don't correlate. It's to help casual players have fun

[glad mist]

just like getting farmed does.
or seeing their shitty kd on the board

[arctic grove]

having a high skill ceiling doesnt affect casual players, their skill will stay the same

[desert elbow]

So? lol

[arctic grove]

what it does however is positively reward skilled players

[glad mist]

this guy has gotta be a troll lol

[arctic grove]

which indirectly affects casual players and forces them to catch up in terms of skill

[desert elbow]

Yeah but having a high skill ceiling would make them lose more scenarios due to the learning curve

[arctic grove]

how is this a bad thing??????

[desert elbow]

Some people don't have the time for that

[arctic grove]

their problem

[glad mist]

just git gud then
every game has a learning curve

[desert elbow]

It's your problem they're lowering the skill ceiling then

[arctic grove]

they should take that into account and get good at the game, or they are shit outta luck and can cry

[glad mist]

which ultimately make it rewarding to play

[desert elbow]

Fair enough

[desert elbow]

The thing is though, they got their way and now you're crying

[glad mist]

well not every game

2042 does not
less so than tetris

[arctic grove]

im crying for a reason: skilled players should NEVER be punished or artificially crippled for the sake of casual players

that is just ridiculously bad game design and a severely flawed mindset

[desert elbow]

That's your opinion

[arctic grove]

its not an opinion, thats just how it should work

[glad mist]

hence why this game is so dead^

[thorn helm]

Yucca Flat

[arctic grove]

and any sane person would think like that

[acoustic oar]

how are you getting punished as a "good" player in any bf? what even is a good player?

[arctic grove]

The in-game radio is best feature ngl

[arctic grove]

im talking in general

[glad mist]

flying like shit equals dying

[desert elbow]

That's an opinion lol

[glad mist]

driving like shit and position your vehicle badly equals dying

[hearty flame]

right its the casualization thats killed the game lol

[arctic grove]

the entire game industry has been moving towards excessive casualization

[glad mist]

it cleary has

[desert elbow]

Battlefield has always been casual, once again

[arctic grove]

because it makes them more $$$ and keeps the shitty casual playing their game

and drives the good skilled players out

[hearty flame]

I know Im just saying that casualization being what killed 2042 isnt true

[glad mist]

bruh it clearly has

[arctic grove]

2042 has MUCH bigger problems than casualization

[desert elbow]

Well yeah that's the point, making a game more casual lets everyone have a similar degree of fun instead of providing the slim minority with all of it

[glad mist]

literally all features have been butchered down and casualized

[arctic grove]

It’s not a main reason though. Sure it’s made some people quit, but it’s not one of the main reasons.

[desert elbow]

Well yeah

[arctic grove]

and why punish the good player, who has practiced and played the game a ton to be as good as he is?

[desert elbow]

So the casual player can have more fun

[arctic grove]

Casual players killed the game? That’s new.

a player with 20h of playtime should not stand a chance against a player with 400h of playtime

[hearty flame]

when the games so bad casual players dont want it you know theres a problem lol

[arctic grove]

thats the unfortunate (and brutal) reality and how everything in real life works

[acoustic oar]

specialists, bad maps, bugs and low content and slow patches have killed 2042 not casulization

[desert elbow]

In a casual game they should

[arctic grove]

no

[hearty flame]

yes

[arctic grove]

BF games have always been casual 😂

it shouldnt be like this in ANY game

[desert elbow]

That's the aim of a casual game

[glad mist]

specialists are classes but casualized into a hero shooter system, maps are huge and no cover so its easier to see something from 5km away

[arctic grove]

thats just bad game design

[desert elbow]

In your opinion

[thorn helm]

I hereby announce that BF2042 Legally can implement my C-001Z Device?

[chilly jacinth]

alot of playtime doesnt mean youre good at the game

[arctic grove]

thats like saying a toddler should be able to win against usain bolt in a race

[arctic grove]

Context: 2042 was meant to be a BR, but changed midway through development. DICE had 15 months to turn it into what it is now

[chilly jacinth]

very poor logic on that one

[arctic grove]

its usually a good indicator of skill but you are right its not 100% indicative

[desert elbow]

No it's not lol

[arctic grove]

generally though more hours = higher skill

like anything we as humans do

Bro no offense but this casualization thing is the dumbest argument I’ve heard

[desert elbow]

Why do you think some adults will intentionally let a child win a race? So the child can experience the victory too

[arctic grove]

so you are telling me its not the same as a newbie winning against a seasoned player?

a newbie should never win against such a player

Wasn’t every BF game casual? Lmao

unless that player makes some big mistakes that allows the newbie to win

[desert elbow]

So you think if you're playing ball against a 5 year old, you should play your hardest just because you can?

[acoustic oar]

it depends on what they are doing if a pro from lets say cs:go wins against a bf player who is just casually playing bf in bf I would not be surprised tbh

[arctic grove]

why wouldnt i? thats not an excuse for the 5 year old to win

[arctic grove]

Because he’s a 5 year old. You let the kid win 😭

i can toy with the 5 year old but i would still win nevertheless

no way in hell the 5 year old will win

[desert elbow]

Wow lmao

[glad mist]

wait really?

[arctic grove]

yes thats actually true

[desert elbow]

It was a rumor by a popular leaker, not proven but it's likely

[glad mist]

no wonder this game is so garbage

[arctic grove]

It’s not proven, but it sure as hell seems that way

lemme take this on from another angle: whats the point in getting better and honing your skill if it wont matter anyways because some newbie shitter wins against you either way?

[glad mist]

and i thought the pleb they hired from treyarch was in fault

for designing a cod

[arctic grove]

In reality, it’s EA.

[acoustic oar]

a cod woud have sold better

[arctic grove]

a low skill ceiling does not incentivize improving as a player at all

And a little bit on DICE

[glad mist]

doubtfully, vanguard hasn't sold well at all

[arctic grove]

Quick question, what’s your first BF?

[desert elbow]

There is no point, which is why you should play a different game if you care that much about having a higher skill ceiling

[glad mist]

neither has cold war

[arctic grove]

bf3

[shadow cobalt]

Battlefield 2042 is underrated

[acoustic oar]

still well better than 2042

[arctic grove]

why is it relevant?

Ok, then as a “veteran” bf player, you should know that every BF game is casual

But there’s a comp scene

ok and? that doesnt mean the skill ceiling should be lower than the fucking ground

high skill ceiling is always beneficial for the game

No one has complained about it since now 😭

Y’all just trying to find every possible problem and throw it onto 2042

it encourages the player to improve and get better at the game

[shadow cobalt]

[glad mist]

you literally don't know what "casualizing" means in that example im not refering to casual and competitive as in there being CSGO and Fortnite
aka skill floors and skill ceilings being narrowed down is over-casualizing the game

[hearty flame]

lower skill ceiling means more sales from the casual audience that outnumbers the "hardcore" audience

[woeful python]

what game are you talking about?

[arctic grove]

in general

[arctic grove]

What

not talking about any specific game here

[desert elbow]

I agree, it's a really solid game. I hope it gets some good updates in the future

[acoustic oar]

you think a cod is selling so well because it has a high skill ceiling or its just some popcorn action which you can hop in and have a good time after work?

[arctic grove]

cod does have a moderate skill ceiling, its not dirt low

[glad mist]

yeah thats a troll

[arctic grove]

what you are talking about is skill floor

[shadow cobalt]

I hope I could experience the same scene 20 years after

[glad mist]

back to work i go

[arctic grove]

which further shows that you dont know what you are talking about

[arctic grove]

He’s not. The game can be solid if it wants too. People are just blinded by the hate of the community

[woeful python]

just bf in general I don't feel like that's true at all. it just takes a long time to reach that skill level

[arctic grove]

skill floor and skill ceiling are completely different

[runic prism]

Cod vanguard and coldwar failed

[arctic grove]

a game can have a low skill floor and a high skill ceiling

[acoustic oar]

ye no cod is on bf level ttk is so fast every casual player can catch a good player off guard

[arctic grove]

they are independent from one another

[arctic grove]

thats because of a low skill floor

So you want high skill ceiling and floor?

a low skill floor is generally not a bad thing

What do you want 2042 to have

since it means the game is initially more accessible to people

a low skill ceiling however should be avoided at all costs

Good. It has a medium one

[shadow cobalt]

better optimization on pc

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

I mean skill issue wise

[shadow cobalt]

Umm

Ntw is a suck gun

[arctic grove]

the game is a lost cause anyways so its useless to think of improvements

[thorn helm]

C-001Z

Declassified

[next isle]

Yoink

[glad mist]

most of the people here don't.

Don't bother. Let them kill the franchise.

[arctic grove]

there is a neat little psychological effect that perfectly describes this

[glad mist]

WW3 is gonna be lit

[radiant prism]

BF in general is a casual franchise, so a (decently) low skill floor is probably for the best. The higher the skill ceiling the better though

[arctic grove]

dunning-kruger effect

and its absolutely rampant nowadays

[glad mist]

wat is it

[radiant prism]

Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general. - Wikipedia

[arctic grove]

there you go

[glad mist]

o yeah makes sense

[arctic grove]

people who dont know shit think they do and they overestimate their abilities

[radiant prism]

Honestly I think that goes both ways. There's definitely some people who defend the game that go way over their head, but I think a lot of people who criticize the game make the same mistake. Not all of them...but damn, there's quite a few.

[arctic grove]

at least somebody with functioning logic

who thinks a low skill ceiling would be good for the health of a game

[radiant prism]

low skill floor is good for accessibility, which if you ask me most casual games should be

[thorn helm]

whats that so you can dig?

[arctic grove]

yea a low skill floor isnt a bad thing

in fact its beneficial for the overall health of the game

[lethal tinsel]

i actually had fun for the first time since... never

[radiant prism]

The thing that gets harmful though is a low skill floor and a low skill ceiling

[lethal tinsel]

breakthrough is fun

[arctic grove]

a low skill ceiling just drives the good players out

and removes any incentive to improve at the game

[radiant prism]

I mean I know I'm notoriously pro-2042 around here, but please tell me someone isn't saying low skill ceiling is good

[arctic grove]

a low skill floor and low skill ceiling on the other hand is just a recipe for disaster: there will be no skilled players and the overall skill of thr player base will be unhealthily equal

and the amount of casual players will skyrocket

[hearty flame]

I dont think ive seen anyone argue that

[radiant prism]

Ok good. I'm just coming into this convo halfway through so I don't have a ton of context as to how we got here lmao

[arctic grove]

there you go

[hearty flame]

It was mainly an argument about bf being a casual game

[arctic grove]

and i wasnt even talking about bf specifically

[hearty flame]

I know i meant the legacy guy

[radiant prism]

I mean, casual games in general are going to tend to have a somewhat low skill ceiling, but that doesn't mean they SHOULD have a low skill ceiling. Thing is, having a low skill floor and a high skill ceiling is generally pretty difficult to pull off effectively.

[copper fulcrum]

Battlefield has always been pretty casual, it started off as such with 1942.

[arctic grove]

a game that imo has managed to almost get it right is overwatch

[copper fulcrum]

Not surprising, that's an arena shooter

[arctic grove]

the game has an extremely high skill ceiling while also being very casual-friendly

[arctic grove]

but apparently according to some people here a casual game should and must have a low skill ceiling

[radiant prism]

I mean, I wouldn't take one guy's opinion as a representative sample for the server

[copper fulcrum]

For some games the skill ceiling is high because of an exploit/bug the developers left in

[arctic grove]

i have seen it several times

[glad mist]

^

[arctic grove]

but its refreshing to at least see some people here with a working brain and an understanding of how a game should be designed

[glad mist]

its a sad modern trend anyway. everything must be nice and non-confrontive

not only in the gaming industry

[arctic grove]

the dominant mentality in the gaming industry and also in society nowadays

everybody is a winner

[copper fulcrum]

It attracts the most people that way, which means more sales.

[arctic grove]

we drive the hardworking people out in order to not hurt peoples feelings who are lazy and sit on their ass all day

[pine roost]

Well what do you consider to be competitive

[glad mist]

thats why BFV and 2042 flopped

[arctic grove]

its honestly sickening

[glad mist]

social media was a mistake

[pine roost]

Cause I consider most fps games to be competitive, since the concept is that someone wins and someone loses

[glad mist]

without the twitter bandwagoning and the general cancel culture, alot would be different today

[arctic grove]

a game with a high skill floor and high skill ceiling

[crisp junco]

Atleast bf5 was fun unlike 2042

[glad mist]

barely

[copper fulcrum]

Fun over competitive feel has been with a lot of shooting games really

[arctic grove]

you can do both

[glad mist]

if it was the first WW2 shooter of the decade it prolly would

[arctic grove]

overwatch has shown that it can be done if you put the time and effort into it

[glad mist]

or csgo

[arctic grove]

ehhh cs has a very high skill floor and ceiling

[copper fulcrum]

Fortnite

[crisp junco]

Overwatch was massively mishandled tho

[pine roost]

Titanfall 2

[copper fulcrum]

Overwatch 2

[arctic grove]

overwatch is conceptually a brilliantly designed game

[crisp junco]

Yeah titanfall 2 is the epitome of fun with high skill ceiling

[arctic grove]

it doesnt get enough credit for that tbh

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah not too often I see people say that

[mossy badge]

yeah that game require skills man that game is i am in love with

[arctic grove]

Early overwatch was one of the best games I’ve ever played

[pine roost]

What I don’t understand about all these game dev teams, the most popular fps games right now are most likely warzone, apex and fortnite right?

[arctic grove]

the game had some very questionable decisions over its lifecycle but at its core its absolutely brilliant

[arctic grove]

Fortnite isn’t a FPS

It’s a TPS

[copper fulcrum]

Still a shooting game, so the point is still there

[arctic grove]

fortnite also has a low skill floor and very high ceiling but that ceiling has been gradually lowered by epic with their shitty updates and changes

Yep

[pine roost]

Well they are all very difficult games. You don’t just win, you earn it through skill. So why do they feel the need to just make things so much easier now when it’s proven that harder games can still top the charts

[crisp junco]

Id say that apex fortine and warzone just kinda suck in gameplay tho

[arctic grove]

because in a casual game the shitty player NEEDS to win against the better player apparently

[copper fulcrum]

True but that's subjective.

[arctic grove]

what a dogshit mentality

[glad mist]

BR games

[crisp junco]

Plus thr majn reason they popular is cause they free

[arctic grove]

I’d say Warzone isn’t exactly free

i mean overwatch isnt free and it was still immensely popular

[pine roost]

Well when I started to learn to fly in bf1 I just accepted that I’d get steamrolled. I powered through and now I’m getting to a decent place. I wish more people had that mentaility

How isn’t warzone free

[arctic grove]

no man haha gotta make the bad player win against the good player

[crisp junco]

It literall is

[arctic grove]

fuck good players, casuals should always win and skill should never play a role or be a deciding factor

[arctic grove]

In order to be good, you have to actually buy Vanguard or CW or MW2019

[pine roost]

But you have all the content for free without right?

[thorn helm]

no dont they wont refund you

[arctic grove]

the content is free but if you want to use the good guns you have to play multiplayer

[arctic grove]

Yep. But it’ll take a lot longer to level up

thats the catch with warzone

it being free is actually a genius lure

Which is why you basically need to buy the MP games. Gotta give it to Activision for that one

[thorn helm]

call of McDonalds: Trash can
wont refund you

[crisp junco]

Classic activision

[pine roost]

Surely you stand some chance without levelled guns though right?

[arctic grove]

actually you can still use all the guns if you are f2p player but it will be painfully slow to unlock and level up

[crisp junco]

Still
I hate f2p games

[upbeat sand]

Tf2

[arctic grove]

Which is why I said it’s technically not free.

[glad mist]

warframe is good

[arctic grove]

you are right, it isnt

[crisp junco]

Tf2 was before modern f2p

[upbeat sand]

Ok yeah how bout how ww3 is planned to go f2p

[glad mist]

it is?

[arctic grove]

It is

[copper fulcrum]

With potential lootboxes

[crisp junco]

Judging by how things are looking with the dlc equipment
Its not gonna be good

[glad mist]

since when

[copper fulcrum]

Think it was announced last year to be f2p

[glad mist]

😔

[upbeat sand]

Good game shit monetisation

[arctic grove]

Since forever

[copper fulcrum]

I mean, Google does exist

[crisp junco]

Thats the reason i hate f2p
It ruins good games with shit monetisatiob

[glad mist]

more time to play BF4 i guess

[crisp junco]

And because its f2p they can get away with it

[glad mist]

and tarkov

[copper fulcrum]

I'm okay with Monetization if it's cosmetic only tbh

[glad mist]

^like it is in WF

best f2p model there is

[copper fulcrum]

Give us $5 and have this helmet

[arctic grove]

But if it’s F2P without monetization, how would they make money

[upbeat sand]

Welp at least apex dosent have anything that gives you a advantage by payin.. ahh fuck the legends can be paid for

[crisp junco]

No see
Theres a diffrnece in a f2p that just has monetization
And then there is f2p that uses the excuse of being f2p to force you to pay more money to get the full experience then it would if you were to just buy a full price game

Essiantially
A normal game is you buy for it and you get it
A bad f2p is you get it and you either spend double the amount to get the content or you painfully grind for it

[upbeat sand]

Destiny 2 dlcs are more expensive than battlefield 2042 and how you need to pay money for a anniversary pack

[crisp junco]

Thats what im saying

[upbeat sand]

Modern gaming is mostly shit

Seems like Indie games are the best currently

[crisp junco]

Modern gamings biggest advantage is indie and double a teams

Its just the triple a that when to the shitter

[upbeat sand]

More budget less time to make i think

[pine roost]

AAA studios can afford a let down, ea can just move along normally after 2042. But if an indie title fails then that company could be gone for good, so they put more effort into it

[upbeat sand]

Welp least nintendo is still trying to make good shit (not including switch online) other than gamefreak rushing Pokémon

[pine roost]

And aaa games have been releasing worse and worse stuff to test just how much their communities can handle

[arctic grove]

Gta 6 will be the last good AAA game

Or at least I hope so

[upbeat sand]

At this point making games is to please investors than players

[hearty flame]

not all aaa games are doomed
still got studios like fromsoft and games like baldurs gate 3

[upbeat sand]

Borderlands 3 was good

Mafia definitive

Things like that

And also respawn still makes extremely good games even if apex has EAitis

[pine roost]

Heck I’m still playing titanfall to this day because nothing else is interesting

[upbeat sand]

We will have some good AAA games but there will be shits as well

[pine roost]

Most games I’ve ever been hyped for have flopped so most of my hope is lost

[hardy leaf]

stop getting hyped just after watching trailers and a few gameplay clips

[willow sky]

havent checked on bf2042, whats the weekly mission?

[pine roost]

Yeah that’s what I’ve learned from this launch

[hardy leaf]

nice thing to learn, keep in this mind now, for eg: i am looking forward to hogwarts legacy, they have shown small clips of its gameplay but i still dont believe it, ill buy only if the game dont have gamebreaking bugs and performance issues at launch

[upbeat sand]

Gvt lever action skin

[willow sky]

man, these are quite the repetitive arctic skins

[silk surge]

Ayy we lost, but at least I was the MVP

Gotta love Friday Night Battlefield. Getting more and more used to the BC2 and BF3 guns each week.

[scenic tartan]

It's true

[glad mist]

MSFS is still good

so is halo and diablo

[compact sleet]

I guess the next map is arctic themed

[elder patrol]

Does it have something different than a tornado?

[tiny imp]

To bad they removed that mode today

[grizzled whale]

i hope it has spaghetti

[runic prism]

The most terrible thing in this game is in my option. Joining a match that is almost over

[compact sleet]

Yes it’s horrendous

[hard plume]

They’re getting rid of hovercrafts climbing up walls

Sad day

[compact sleet]

They’re taking out hovercraft?

[candid nexus]

#BF2042isDead

Yeah, this game are horrible

[grizzled whale]

Source?

[hard plume]

Nah, just their ability to climb walls

[hard plume]

https://mp1st.com/news/battlefield-2042-almost-everyone-at-dice-working-on-game-hovercraft-being-able-to-traverse-walls-being-fixed

[edgy oriole]

i havent seen flying hovercrafts since prolly decemeber. ive seen people try to do it and go nowhere. but this could also be because there is no rooftop point.

[grizzled whale]

lol, yet another article taking things WAYYYYYY out of context

[hard plume]

Oh no doubt

[hard plume]

Kinda bummed they decided to fix that when it wasn’t an issue

[grizzled whale]

making them less able to "fly" will probably make them more stable to use

they handle like shit, thats probably why you dont see them very often

[edgy oriole]

I think A. it wasnt suppose to do it. B. this was when every single online shitposter was saying whatever to fuel the fire so they decided to minimize it ig.

[grizzled whale]

now if only they remove calling in vehicles on rooftops too

that shit annoys me

[grizzled whale]

every time i see a friendly camping on a roof with a vehicle i just get in and drive it over the edge, if its a tank, i try to jet ram it of

[edgy oriole]

thats what i thought they were going to do about rooftop points. but looking back at it im kinda glad they got rid of it altogether. air vehicle spam up there was the literally death of me.

[runic prism]

My team sucks . Lost with 0-700

[grizzled whale]

the rooftop points were bad anyway, even without vehicles

[arctic grove]

Probably a load of cod kids all running to on point and that’s it

[grizzled whale]

could be worse

[foggy halo]

Cod kids don’t play this game

Maps are too big

[arctic grove]

You be shocked I see a lot on Xbox

[grizzled whale]

true, im a cod adult

[glad mist]

the entire thing about being able to request a tank onto any rooftop at any time is bad lol

[grizzled whale]

being able to is bad

[glad mist]

shouldve made it a commander ability

[edgy oriole]

They need to bring back reinforcements

[glad mist]

if the game even had that legacy feature

[elder patrol]

What about macaroni and the chicken strips 😫

[runic prism]

Man this manifast map is so much chaos. I mean the chaos is nice but the map design is like my ass

I don’t want manifest + hourglass

[edgy oriole]

manifest/discarded best maps

[opal cedar]

uwu

[chilly oak]

discarded is so over rated

[shy latch]

*maccheroni; and no, chicken with pasta absolutely no

[white geyser]

🛠️🧰

[arctic grove]

I’m pretty sure it’s macaroni

[shy latch]

I'm Italian and as Italian I can confirm are maccheroni

[arctic grove]

But how come whenever I look up Maccheroni, it’s autocorrect to Macaroni?

[shy latch]

maybe macaroni is anglosaxon way

[arctic grove]

In America it’s spelled Macaroni

In Italy it’s probably spelled different

[shy latch]

yeah probably it's that

but in any case chicken with pasta is forbidden

in any italian recipe

[heavy linden]

In greece we say Macharoni 'Μακαρονι'

[shy latch]

I know, and you can pronunce it also something like "maccaronia" 😅, I'm living in Greece

[heavy linden]

yes maccaronia exactly

'Μακαρόνια'

its macaroni for 1 and macaronia for mulitple

[shy latch]

μπραβο 😅 I don't know if it's written correctly, it's very hard for me to write in Greek

[heavy linden]

it is

[silk surge]

Enemy team barely alive in the head irl

[grizzled whale]

bro this game is so fake

133 kills, 89 assists, 9 captures, more than double the score of the #2 on the scoreboard.
Not in the exceptional performance screen, only 3 captures counted

[runic prism]

Manifest definitely not

[surreal crystal]

U tweakin

[grizzled whale]

manifest is considered the best map

since it has a good balance between infantry and vehicle gameplay

[runic prism]

In this game there is not a balance between infantry and vehicle

I see more vehicles then infantry’s

[grizzled whale]

on manifest there is

[runic prism]

Nah. Orbital and renewal is the best map

[grizzled whale]

lol

both flatmaps with barely any infantry areas

[runic prism]

Ok

[grizzled whale]

nice argument

[silk surge]

Objective Neutralization counts as well.

In the scoreboard that is. End of round only shows captures.

Pretty sure that killing the last enemy in a contested objective counts as well, I have no idea if its intentional or a bug.

[steep skiff]

Have they fixed the game yet?

[elder patrol]

Spaghetti

[elder patrol]

Google

[steep skiff]

oh my

bye 👋

[elder patrol]

😁👋

[warped pulsar]

update Tuesday?

[cedar turtle]

I'm having a total battlefield moment right now

my wife just left me

[elder patrol]

That's a ali-a moment

[novel lantern]

Next Update when?

[warped pulsar]

some say Tuesday next week

[foggy halo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/140933721929940992/964946926413955092/artdecocursedcat.png

[arctic grove]

Check pinned messages

Giant update incoming for QoL, bug fix and stability improvements

Full patch notes sometime early this upcoming week

A lot of other things too though

[chilly oak]

D1 and D2

[chilly oak]

Bruh

[grizzled whale]

Ok

Thats 1 building

[chilly oak]

A1 A2

C1

Pretty much the whole of the grass half and middle

[runic prism]

Renewal is one of my fav maps now. In the beginning it was awful but now i really like it. It give’s a feeling of being free . It’s a beautiful big map

Manifest is a map and its always rain i hate it . It give’s a feeling of being in a prison lol

[drowsy sapphire]

Where’s the AC-130

[slow terrace]

over the months I learned to like all the maps 🤣

[arctic grove]

What

“Feeling of being in a prison” 😭😭

[drowsy sapphire]

let me say it again... where is the AC-130

[runic prism]

Temporarily disabled i think

This is just how it works out sometimes

[arctic grove]

Angel does it again!

[cloud steeple]

I just shot a mutha fucka in tha head!

[chilly oak]

doesn't it have one variant where its not stormy and it doesn't rain

[compact sleet]

Renewal is the best manifest is second. Your right tho manifest is always night I wish you could play it during the day

[arctic grove]

[scenic tartan]

Battlebit isn't good people are just eager to like it because they have made hating battlefield into a personality

[chilly oak]

They better not restrict a sniper to paik because shes a recon, like how will that even work

[lost snow]

i made Day-to-Night transition maps almost 20 years ago.

[arctic grove]

BattleBit is an automatic L

[full elk]

Is the tactical or warhawk compensator better?

[chilly oak]

which ones which again i forgot

[arctic grove]

It’s more Squad than battlefield. Plus it’s playtests probably get more players than 2042 has.

[chilly oak]

quickest way to level up so i can get the sundance skin?

[arctic grove]

Casper

[chilly oak]

how tho

[arctic grove]

Spots and assists

Then C5 drone tanks and shit

[chilly oak]

ok

[compact sleet]

Not very well

[radiant prism]

But her ability is CQC oriented lmao, that would just be stupid

[compact sleet]

Yeah give her the option to use DMRs or the other disabled DMR and the shotguns

[chilly oak]

lol just c5d a tank using drone

[frosty mural]

Condor with 50mm cannon

[drowsy sapphire]

Nuh uh, that’s not a AC-130

I want a real man’s Angel of Death

[chilly oak]

casper is actually fun

[drowsy sapphire]

Not that big fat hunk

[runic prism]

Nope it’s always a storm and rain in that map. It makes everything so much difficulter

Maybe it’s a good map if it’s not a night map…

[arctic grove]

Paik should be an assault in that case. But the update that’s upcoming is changing her trait so we’ll see if that means she changes more into a recon role

[runic prism]

These quotes became a meme in the game lol

Which specialist are changing i don’t get it

[barren crater]

SHIT TIER GAME

[arctic grove]

Paik and rao have their traits updated, and to my knowledge that’s it

[simple merlin]

Is the update next week?

[arctic grove]

Ye. early this upcoming week

[scenic tartan]

Squad is good for what it is but it's very different than bf

[arctic grove]

ORIGINAL TRASH COMMENT

[scenic tartan]

If they restrict weapons to specialists they will need to have bf4 style all class weapons like pdw/SMG and dmr

[scenic tartan]

Are you alright? Anything you need to talk about?

[tribal obsidian]

Okay.

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/balloonshop-derrick-treat-derrick-im-enjoying-a-treat-gif-20725865

[arctic grove]

Top Tier memes

[chilly oak]

there are 2 variants 100%

[runic prism]

I only get rain and storm that’s it

[chilly oak]

one is full of tornadoes and one is more bright ish (still think it rains, just a more blue sky and no tornadoes)

[tribal obsidian]

Manifest is such a cool looking map with the seawall

Especially from a high altitude

[barren crater]

more people are playing darksouls 2 than this shit tier game on steam atm BTFOH

[arctic grove]

No one fucking asked

[chilly oak]

Please never take away c5 on drone

[scenic tartan]

Is that true? How interesting.

[chilly oak]

I understand why if u do but its just so fun

Watching breakthrough on caspers drone is such a vibe

Like a war movie

[empty bloom]

ded game

[arctic grove]

Ded comment

[empty bloom]

how’s playing with bots

[arctic grove]

Haven’t even gotten any bots but thank you for being concerned about a game that has you up in the feelings

[wide shore]

Wouldn’t know

How is it joining a discord server to hate in a game you don’t play?

[cedar turtle]

best sniper rifle in the game

[arctic grove]

[hexed mango]

[arctic grove]

You probably play BattleBit

[scenic tartan]

What do you mean? They use bots sometimes until the game fills up

[empty bloom]

i know i play it once in a while lul

[cedar turtle]

Don't worry, they will likely never be warned our muted for harassment. It's best to ignore their attempts at getting under your skin.

[arctic grove]

Good one

[scenic tartan]

People seem to like that the game has a solo play option

[arctic grove]

BattleBit is ass

[empty bloom]

well the name checks out

[arctic grove]

BattleBit fanboy

[scenic tartan]

I tried it and didn't like it. I don't care for call of duty quick time to kill

[next isle]

Ok stop

[arctic grove]

Lol

[hexed mango]

nec was shut down

[arctic grove]

[next isle]

Defending a game by saying one game is shit is not helping

[arctic grove]

How does he?

[scenic tartan]

That's one thing I always find with these indie battlefield clones is for some reason they think it needs to be hardcore low health by default

[arctic grove]

Bruh

[cedar turtle]

Mozzy is admin, not mod. Check yo self.

[arctic grove]

This

[hexed mango]

this is actually the battlefield discord server not just 2042 🔨

[arctic grove]

This is a channel about 2042 come on dude

[hexed mango]

not what you said the first time

[cedar turtle]

A mandatory group hug has been ordered.

[arctic grove]

Cope harder please

[hexed mango]

cope

[scenic tartan]

That's pretty rude. It's ok to like different games

[midnight compass]

looking for a battleifield 4 lfg server. anyone have a good one?

[arctic grove]

I moved to 2042 and ww3

[arctic grove]

Wrong channel

Alright lets talk about 2042

[midnight compass]

im aware but i cant find anything good anywhere so i would ask the battlefield community

[arctic grove]

Wait

[cedar turtle]

It was the year after 2041....

[hexed mango]

wrong category entirely

[midnight compass]

copy

[hexed mango]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
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#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[arctic grove]

& then a nuke came

[cedar turtle]

that completely devastated tomato town

[arctic grove]

And then hl3 came out

Nooo not tomato town

[cedar turtle]

I'm playing BF2042 no-build rn

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/by9lJ.gif

[arctic grove]

[chilly oak]

Underrated

[arctic grove]

I had tomato then had diarrhea for a month

[hexed mango]

tomatoes are poopoo

[cedar turtle]

pics or it didn't happen

[arctic grove]

Lets talk about squ-

[hexed mango]

Squirtle?

[arctic grove]

You can come smell it

[cedar turtle]

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah 2042...

[hexed mango]

🌪️

[chilly oak]

Casper is so fun

[arctic grove]

Who likes chicken soup

[quiet shell]

So when the feedback channel for specialists opens up, who heres gonna say "bring back classes"?

[hexed mango]

not

[arctic grove]

I’m not

[chilly oak]

Not me

[arctic grove]

I would but no

Oops

So how is ww3

The game

[hexed mango]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ww3 --> #other-games

[cedar turtle]

here

[arctic grove]

Fuck again

[cedar turtle]

you want me to do WHAT!?

[arctic grove]

No

[arctic grove]

This

[arctic grove]

Based

[cedar turtle]

more like... BROTH

[hexed mango]

😏

[arctic grove]

Am i fucked or was there gonna be a movie for bf

[hexed mango]

a movie??

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

No that was gta or cod i forgot

[cedar turtle]

Hitman

[arctic grove]

Gotta stop these swat 4 lan parties fr

Im getting fucked in game

Oh wait i forgot 2042 was there gonna be an update that people hated

I didn't understand what and why

[arctic grove]

Nah but I think they might be available in portal. No guarantees

[arctic grove]

Also I have 0 idea what you’re talking about

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove

Check pinned messages for the upcoming 4.0 details, patch notes will arrive early next week before the update, but I don’t recall anyone hating it

So I guess not

[compact sleet]

Thanks for name idea

[scenic tartan]

I think for specialists they should allow open loadouts but if you want to use McKay with a sniper rifle you'll get a penalty to reload time or handling or something

But he will be better with an AR

[hexed mango]

how do you fly jets

[arctic grove]

nah that doesnt make sense

[scenic tartan]

When you make your loadout they could highlight equipment that your specialist isn't "specialized" in and if you use that you get a slight penalty

It would be a good way to do both open loadouts and a class system

[hexed mango]

idk i dont like that

[arctic grove]

me either theres no real reason to penalty. just reduce ammo capacity

[compact sleet]

With joysticks? Idk but I love it

[frigid cairn]

there's no loadout strong enough to justify that lol

[scenic tartan]

Well most people just want to remove sniper from McKay because he's assault

[frigid cairn]

snipers are weak and generally lose games instead of win tem

[scenic tartan]

Removing it vs letting you use it but he's not as good of a sniper makes more sense

[hexed mango]

idk i like the ability to use what you want, if it got restricted i would be mad

[arctic grove]

i honestly dont think snipers provide any unbalanced advantage for mackay

[scenic tartan]

His grapple let's you get places you normally can't and high places. It's just an example since traditionally assault class doesn't use a sniper

[frigid cairn]

that's a feature

[hexed mango]

thats literally the point of using mackay.

[arctic grove]

gunplay already sucks so much on this game dont make it worst

[frigid cairn]

he can still be shot from the high up place so it's all good

[chilly oak]

it doesnt

[frigid cairn]

also snipers kinda suck so it doesn'tmatter

[compact sleet]

Except if you don’t count manifest there’s not a lot of spots high up and inaccessible to non mackays

[scenic tartan]

Idk it makes sense to me. McKay is an assault so he's trained with ar and SMG

If you give him a sniper rifle he can shoot it but he's not as good as the recon class is

[hexed mango]

sws and dxr are 1 shots to head, and ntw can be a one shot to body depending on armor or not
i dont think they suck very much

[compact sleet]

NTW 😩

[scenic tartan]

It's much faster to get to the top of renewal b and c as McKay

[frigid cairn]

sniper mains have nowhere close to the effect of a guy on the front line with an AR or something

[arctic grove]

its hard to hit consistent headshots when you can infinitely jump and slide with no cooldown

[hexed mango]

ok but like that would be stupid to abandon the idea of specialists being the division between loadouts. integrating a class system would be useless and it would devalue the specialists as each player wwould be restricted by their abilities over each other and their snipers. literally something i love so much about this game is that i can use whatever gun, gadget, etc with any specialist.

[scenic tartan]

It's just sniper as an example.

The recon might not be as good with the recoilless rifle, it takes longer to reload maybe

[arctic grove]

prioritize one shot only on easy to predict targets or completely stational ones

[frigid cairn]

again that's just adding unnecessary complexity that doesn't do anything except make balance worse

[compact sleet]

Yes but it’s still accessible to other players so it’s not op

[scenic tartan]

I understand that you like it but it's tied as the #1 complaint about the game along with the bad maps

[frigid cairn]

the perks and gadgets make you pick certain specialists over another and that's okay

[hexed mango]

no, the #1 complaint is classes (besides maps and whatever), not what you're saying
you definitely cant have both classes and specialists, is what im saying, and also specialists are imo better than classes, and i just dont see why dice should bend over backwards for this complaint.

[scenic tartan]

Well then you could just remove snipers from assualt and remove the launchers from recons, etc like old games.

[compact sleet]

Honestly the only bad part is that people can use LMGS without trade offs

[frigid cairn]

what does that achieve

[scenic tartan]

It's apparently the worst part of 2042 if you listen to the complaints

[hexed mango]

yeah but honestly every complaint, even the more valid ones, needs to be taken with a grain of salt

[scenic tartan]

The bad part is that you can use launchers and stinger without having to play engineer and use engineer weapons which were usually shorter range

[frigid cairn]

who cares what complainers think, what is the actual gameplay benefit to any of those changes?

[scenic tartan]

You have to change minds about the game being "unplayable shit tier scam"

[barren crater]

more people playing darksouls 2 than this shit tier game

[frigid cairn]

adding restrictions won't do that lol

[scenic tartan]

You may not like it but that's what they need to do.

[chilly oak]

5 people teabagged one body lol wonder what he done

[scenic tartan]

Case in point. You need to convince these rabid haters that the game has improved

[frigid cairn]

if they want to change minds they need to cater to what those people want and make a Metro 2042 map with a dedicated infantry playlist

then those people can play big team battle CoD like they secretly want

[arctic grove]

Which is probably going to be Lights Out and Ridge anyways

[scenic tartan]

What do you want from this game that would improve your opinion on it?

[arctic grove]

No response so it seems to be a troll

[scenic tartan]

I think my new direction is to try to find common ground and understand people who come drive by and if theres no response you know they're just looking for a reaction

[cyan plaza]

LF2 for squad in 2042

[hexed mango]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

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[hexed mango]

bruh wtf

[cyan plaza]

go to BF2042 Squad 7

[arctic grove]

Absolute gigachad

[hexed mango]

im not squading with you

[arctic grove]

Dude just calls people demanding they play the game with him

[cyan plaza]

okay cool

[arctic grove]

[cyan plaza]

Im new to discord sorry....

[median path]

ayo is that bad that i like bf2042

[arctic grove]

No

[hexed mango]

no you're not

[arctic grove]

[cyan plaza]

I dont use it

[arctic grove]

[median path]

that ain't an excuse that u go and randomly call people on discord tho

[cyan plaza]

why be toxic bro

[hexed mango]

bro why send me a friend request aswell

[cyan plaza]

Sorry for calling you I wasnt sure how to add you to call

youre a dick bro

[arctic grove]

And you aren’t on mobile either where sometimes you fat finger and call someone totally random

[hexed mango]

i was showing you where to ask for a group. not saying i was going to join your group

[arctic grove]

Lul

[hexed mango]

this is not me trying to join your group, you're supposed to read this and go to those channels to ask.

[midnight compass]

im in a vc with him, everyone chill, if u wanna play hmu

[arctic grove]

Nah

[median path]

[hexed mango]

no. read the message the bot said, you guys are asking in the wrong place.

[midnight compass]

hes just new to discord, he'll get it

[cyan plaza]

lol it affects your life that much that you had to decline 1 call on discord sorry your life is so miserable

[arctic grove]

Bruh

I can try to hop on tonight but no guarantees. The weekly challenge is a damn joke so I haven’t had much reason to hop on

[midnight compass]

im aware

[hexed mango]

it affects me in my life that random people call me on discord for no reason when they were using the wrong channel
especially cause its weird.

[arctic grove]

He’s declining, he’s not forced to join

[cyan plaza]

I see now sorry yall....jesus

[hexed mango]

im sorry, but just read what i said earlier

[arctic grove]

[cyan plaza]

you are so sad Basement jesus

[median path]

basement jesus?

[cyan plaza]

have a nice life man see ya

[arctic grove]

Someone angry

[hexed mango]

jesus man no need to attack me, you guys literally missused the channel, i told you where to go, and then you called me and added me as if i had asked for it... just a bit weird.

[cyan plaza]

Im not angry at all yall are just corny as hell

[hexed mango]

dude just please leave and go to the lfg channel

[arctic grove]

Lol don’t expect people to join a random discord call & just accept that he says no just don’t be annoyed by it

[midnight compass]

i told him how shit works. were all good fellas

hes just new to it

[hexed mango]

then why are you still here, go to the lfg channel...

[median path]

basement jesus is the 2 words i would expect to hear from angel instead of saying angel does it again

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-fuck-frustrated-gif-15331740

[midnight compass]

im explaining bro, why r u so pressed

[hexed mango]

byran

[hexed mango]

go to the lfg channel(s)

[midnight compass]

sure thing pal

[arctic grove]

Lol

[hexed mango]

that was literally all either of you needed to do, idk why you stook around for so long

[midnight compass]

BECAUSE I WAS EXPLAINING WHY IT HAPPENED

[arctic grove]

Relax

Guys chill

[hexed mango]

go to the lfg channel still

[midnight compass]

your life is not so important that a discord call disrupts you

[arctic grove]

So cranky over a discord call getting declined

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-raging-wild-furious-mad-gif-25236546

[hexed mango]

its annoying when a random stranger in the wrong place calls me on discord then gets mad at me because i was annoyed by it

[midnight compass]

he wasnt mad bro. u just came with such unnecessary hostility

[arctic grove]

Cope now get over it & move on this is annoying

[midnight compass]

like idek this dude but youre so outta pocket i had to say somethintg

[cyan plaza]

^

[midnight compass]

for real

[hexed mango]

.

[arctic grove]

Now be in your call

[hexed mango]

and go to lfg

[arctic grove]

[compact sleet]

Yeah I think there’s a lot of weapons that should be class locked but there are also a couple of weapons that should be exceptions and you can use with anyone

[arctic grove]

I don’t mind class locking weapons just do it when there’s an abundance of em first

[chilly oak]

i want a sniper as paik yes

[arctic grove]

Let’s mention paik again after update 4.0. She might have her trait changed to fit a recon role in some way

As she is now as I said earlier if anything she should lowkey be assault

[opal cedar]

guys i feel lightskin what do i do

[arctic grove]

I’m light skin

Embrace it

[hexed mango]

when i played her i only used an smg cause it was really easy to infiltrate people with her
but i enjoyed her lol

wait that sounds.....

[opal cedar]

😻

[hexed mango]

there's a man i know of from the first half of the 20th century

[opal cedar]

they say i pull bitches but im about to pull the trigger 😿

[median path]

irish best operator

[opal cedar]

depends on what situation

[median path]

A L W A Y S

[opal cedar]

i feel like they made him bc of black lives matter event

[median path]

im glad he returned

[hexed mango]

no cause of bf4

[opal cedar]

hes in bf4?

[median path]

rip voice actor

[hexed mango]

yep. however his voice actor died recently

[opal cedar]

damn thats a ratio

[median path]

damn in september, time flies

[arctic grove]

Yeah bro lol

Also even if Irish wasn’t a BF4 character. There’s nothing wrong with representation

[chilly oak]

i just followed someone going to my body in my drone and c5d him before he could shoot me

[opal cedar]

fr always take politics into the game

[hexed mango]

but he is really cool in bf4, so im 100% glad they have him

im so glad they didnt add hannah

[opal cedar]

battlefield needs search and destroy game mode

[hexed mango]

isnt rush technically snd

[arctic grove]

I always handed Hannah the C4

[opal cedar]

nah like in a small map like metro snd would be cool

[hexed mango]

except when i needed to get the guns for campaign, yes

[median path]

i wasted no time on my second playthrough of story

[hexed mango]

when you give irish the c4, you get an lmg 😎
however sad

[median path]

i actually finished bf4 in the 1 week free trial it has/had

[hexed mango]

so ig the lore is either that hannah was given the c4, or nobody and the Valkyrie was blown up (somehow pac survived ig) or irish was given it, but he's the "lucky one" so he survived

[opal cedar]

bf42 has so many potential and its all wasted

[hexed mango]

doubt

[opal cedar]

we got like shit game modes

[hexed mango]

breakthrough isn't shit, i enjoyed it in bf1 and i enjoy it now

[arctic grove]

I wish it was as successful as it’s trailer but it is what it is

[opal cedar]

breakthrough is impossible to win

[hexed mango]

conquest is conquest, portal is cool, hz is neat but i think it shouldnt of had released with the release

[opal cedar]

as attacker it isn't balanced enough

[hexed mango]

while it may be more difficult to win on defense, i still have been able to, and i still enjoy it

[median path]

ah yes, bfv got shitted on because of reveal and it's still alive, bf2042 got hype and then now it's nearly dead after a few months

[arctic grove]

Breakthrough I agree needs changes. I quit every breakthrough game I load into when I’m defending because I already know how it’ll go

[hexed mango]

depends, what are you looking for

[opal cedar]

its a long term investment

[median path]

probably on sale, and if you wanna play with bots

[compact sleet]

I agree but maybe the weird GVT and the shotguns can remain universal? Cause they have their own weird class

[hexed mango]

"steam charts"

[copper fulcrum]

Sniper as Paik is a good choice really

[opal cedar]

you only play with bots at night

[hexed mango]

gg @copper fulcrum 370

[copper fulcrum]

Anyone who hits you gets highlighted red for a second so you can just turn and pop their head like a pimple

[median path]

1,784 in game oof

[hexed mango]

yeah and thats only steam, which is only a portion of pc players, which is only a portion of all players.

[opal cedar]

and most of em are lvl 120

[compact sleet]

*250

[opal cedar]

steam is literally 1/3 of the players

[hexed mango]

im only S031 (130)

[opal cedar]

ps5 and xbox has many players

[hexed mango]

i mean on cross play i get pretty full games.

[compact sleet]

I only play with players who are s50+ or around lvl 70

[hexed mango]

S500+ or S050+?

[compact sleet]

Probably like 7x the amount steam has.

[median path]

btw are vehicles locked behind levels?

[kindred elm]

I wish I could play Battlefield 2042 on Linux, I remember it worked when 2042 was in beta

[arctic lion]

Game like this should be easily 200k+ daily steam players lol, the game is just dry as they messed up and have barely done anything sadly

[hexed mango]

some yes, like the bolte and stuff

[compact sleet]

S050 lol

[opal cedar]

if they release the big update and have a good advertisement the game is alive

[median path]

it's so stupid bruh

[hexed mango]

oh ok cause the leading 0 is important cause it has stuff before it, was making sure lol

[compact sleet]

Very important lmao

[hexed mango]

how? gives an incentive for progression...

[opal cedar]

imagine u see someone s250

[hexed mango]

@copper fulcrum

[opal cedar]

or s999

[arctic grove]

No… it literally can’t get that unless it’s 100%free lol

[copper fulcrum]

It's also on Epic Games, Origin AND EA Desktop

[arctic grove]

Even V can’t hit that

[opal cedar]

i got it on epic games which is basically origin

[median path]

bf2042 is on epic?

[hexed mango]

i wish steam and ea desktop worked with each other :(

[opal cedar]

if you buy on epic you play on origin

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah, it's on 4 PC platforms... for some reason

[hexed mango]

its still counted differently, if we got an origin/ea desktop player count, that would be more accurate cause epic and steam route to origin

[opal cedar]

thats with every game

[arctic lion]

Even going free wont save it ;p, done and dusted EA got their $$ and they are out, sad as the game had so much potential, was so hyped aswell. I bought the gold edition on steam, played 10 hours and never again lol, last played dec 23rd as it's so bad.

[opal cedar]

the game prob has like 30k average

[hexed mango]

nice pfp

[arctic grove]

You guys do understand it’s illegal to drop the game right now… right

[opal cedar]

how so..

[arctic lion]

😎

[copper fulcrum]

There's promised content that they need to release

[arctic grove]

So what do you mean by wasted potential when dice is legally required to at least do 4 seasons?

[hexed mango]

technically they can do it, it would just be no bueno, and they would have to refund people

[arctic grove]

True

[copper fulcrum]

Which means even more 'wasted' money

[median path]

i wanted to pre order bf2042 but didn't, i would have liked it to be my first game i pre order but i pre ordered another game which was a waste of money : /

[arctic lion]

They're gonna pull an Anthem lol

[opal cedar]

you can literally release 4 shit seasons bro

[arctic grove]

Nah I don’t think the content we’ll get is shxt

[copper fulcrum]

They need to release four specialists at least as well

[opal cedar]

all white camos every season

[median path]

i bought that game and did the first 2 missions and then got stuck

[arctic grove]

Have you seen the data mined guns? Like 6 new fire looking guns. And the maps I can’t wait to see visualized more. We only have concept art for drained and Ridge

[hexed mango]

@copper fulcrum what guns/gadgets do you use

[opal cedar]

k30 prob

[copper fulcrum]

Sundance/C5 and the gun depends on my mood

[hexed mango]

what do you think you've used themost then

[copper fulcrum]

K30, M5A3, AK, NTW-50, MCS-880, SFAR