battlefield-2042

[solid imp]

Another hindsight thing but that dovetails right into the candy crush guy being there lol

[mental delta]

Yes, depends which type of consumers are designated as their targets

[hearty flame]

clearly not us lol

[prime cairn]

https://media.giphy.com/media/ynqCnBb67cdgcLBobq/giphy.gif

[mental delta]

Yeah my sentence looks a bit weird isn't it ?

[prime cairn]

noo why will gifs not work

[hearty flame]

I mean hindsight sure. But great products can come from unlikely sources eg miyazaki and the souls series

[mental delta]

Yes however I doubt they really consult it, it looks more like a tool to keep the community calm and to avoid their hate

[solid imp]

That's fair but some people are also good at interviewing their way far beyond their capabilities, too. I really blame just about everything on the candy crush guy lol

[mental delta]

That's the sad part lol

[solid imp]

He got Das Boot, which is a big reason why I'm optimistic about the game still

[hearty flame]

Nah im sure that there are lots of people in dice that can shoulder the blame. From what we've seen over the past years is that EA will take a hands off approach on certain studios unless they are really fucking around like anthem

[solid imp]

But he's such an easy target : 😹

[hearty flame]

He is but Im not about to let one guy leaving absolve a studio of what they did

[solid imp]

I mean... He dropped a game and straight up dipped. That's a perfect fall guy right there

[solid imp]

Agreed but I also want to give devs their shot under new production. Devs have some say but producers decide everything in the end. Devs have been there and now they have a shot.

I'm fine with blaming more than one guy but the devs themselves shouldn't shoulder much of that. They're the ones who are actually passionate about a project with their hands on it.

[hearty flame]

Sure but Im a bit biased after the disaster that was Vs marketing and "live" service

[solid imp]

I hate live service but doubt it will ever go away. I just want my rented servers back.

Give me procon and a server browser and I will probably be a happy camper

[hearty flame]

Its funny that we got more content through dlc than live service even though live service supposedly makes more money

[mental delta]

The modern video games paradox

[solid imp]

Haha feels like trying to work through the missing dollar paradox

[mental delta]

And in opposition to what most of publishers and studios of development affirm, the live service has more benefits to them than it has to consumers

[mental delta]

Idk this paradox

[solid imp]

It's the one where "incorrect" refund is given and the amount paid vs returned doesn't seem to add up

https://mathworld.wolfram.com/MissingDollarParadox.html

[mental delta]

Yes I saw that

It's weird lol

[winged stream]

🤓

[glossy storm]

OK, for a minute I thought this was stupid, because I wasn't thinking in the way that would've led to the fallacy.

[solid imp]

Even after having read through it many times over the years I still have to remind my brain how to think about it lol

Don't hire me as your accountant 😄

[hard cave]

Note: I've tried. How many rockets does it take to kill a MBT? A Bolte? A Condor? A Hovercraft?

For a game that is "combined arms" as you say, there is very little success to be had by those on the other side of the combined arms spectrum.

I think it should be 3 hits with a M5 on a MBT, 2 on armored "transports" like the Bolte, Hovercraft etc, and 1 to kill anything in the air.

I struck a Condor with 2 consecutive rocket airshots last night. Took it down to 26hp

[hexed mango]

ok 1 to kill any air vehicle is too much damage. if you have someone soflaming, that’s a locked on, one shot missile. it doesn’t need to be that powerful

[frosty mural]

Still no permission, oh well.. Was fun while it lasted

[hexed mango]

you have to open the thread

try going to this link: #959107406619635822 message

[edgy oriole]

[arctic grove]

Yeah 3 on the tanks Mav, T28 etc...heavy armoured vehicles, 2 on the Bolte, Super hind, Condor, jet, it should only be 1 on the hovercraft, Latv recon, night bird. That's the way I see it.

[scenic tartan]

You just don't like dying to vehicles. Nerfing things you dont like isn't good game design. Try to use a MBT or a condor once in a while and see how vulnerable you are.

[hard cave]

Let me clarify. 1 M5. Stingers are lower skill so that can take 2-3. But a M5 should do it in 1.

[scenic tartan]

The MBT isn't even really very good against infantry. The splash damage is non existent and you need a direct hit

[hexed mango]

yeah and let me clarify, an M5 can lock onto air vehicles if someone is using a soflam

[hard cave]

I stand corrected; though I still stand by my damage numbers, since we shouldn't punish an airshotter for that.

[scenic tartan]

It really doesn't make any sense that a launcher that has no guidance can lock on because of a pld..

Condor without two reps in the passenger seats is very easy to get blown up. A squad in it and it's a different story

[hexed mango]

lasers go brrrrrt, however if it didn’t then the soflam would be useless

[radiant prism]

The entire point of the current balancing is to make it so that it is extremely difficult for a single infantry to take out a vehicle. Its a tricky balancing act, but if vehicles aren’t a threat, there’s very little point in having them. It encourages team play.

[scenic tartan]

I wish they would have added the javelin or mbt law and had those use the pld

[hexed mango]

making the M5 stronger won’t help with balancing the vehicle-infantry because it worsens the problem

[hard cave]

I'll give it a go, sure. I will admit I just don't like playing in vehicles in BF. My frustration is how frequently it is that, in trying to play the game there is nothing you can do when a tank rolls up, unless you are entirely built towarda AT.

[scenic tartan]

In bf5 they artificially added that animation of popping up the sights to increase the reload time for balance. Dice doesn't want the anti tank rocket to be a fast firing weapon

[hexed mango]

that would be neat, but i like having a separate soflam mechanic to work with a rocket launcher, just feels nice to help out with soflam

… although i wish the soflamers got points for soflaming

[scenic tartan]

Oh I mean the javelin or mbt law should work with the soflam not the M5 recoiless

[hexed mango]

yeah because a single infantry should be an ant to a tank

[hexed mango]

yeah that’d be neat

[hard cave]

Tanks are just another piece if infantry. IMHO, 1 person in a tank in a BF game should be a fight against 1 infantry, and scaling from there.

[scenic tartan]

The vehicle balance issue is in breakthrough and it's with attackers getting too many and spawning them too fast.

In conquest the vehicle balance is fine, and probably more in favor of infantry than past games.

[grave prism]

the rocket launcher should 1 shot people within 10 meters of it going off

[hexed mango]

tank ≠ infantry

[scenic tartan]

Anti tank launchers are meant to pierce armor not create large explosions or fragmentation so it makes sense they have low splash damage

[hexed mango]

Infantry

The branch of an army made up of units trained to fight on foot.
Soldiers armed and trained to fight on foot.

[grave prism]

thats boring i want big explosion

[hexed mango]

note how it says on foot. tanks do not have feet

[radiant prism]

Given that the main role of the Condor and the Hind is to get low and perform in a gunship role, it makes sense to make it a little tankier. Otherwise, it’d just be free multi kills for anyone with an RPG

[scenic tartan]

I often wondered if they should try to have tanks be a multi passenger vehicle.. like a real tank the driver does not fire the main weapon.. that would be really awkward to implement

[hexed mango]

i do agree i feel like whenever i fly condor i get immediately blown up if i go over an obj

[hard cave]

How about this change; we leave everything the same. Damagewise, armorwise, the like.

People in vehicles can't count towards objectives.

[hexed mango]

yeah i was a little confused about that… like if i’m driving a tank i shouldn’t be driving it either

[scenic tartan]

I guess you could say you're the commander and are ordering when to fire

[hard cave]

If you're in a tank, you couldn't raise the flag on an objective.

[scenic tartan]

No, absolutely not

[radiant prism]

That removes the point of vehicles, and would just exasperate the problem of camping vehicles

[scenic tartan]

I really think you should use as many of the vehicles as you can and try to do well before commenting on their balance.

Many of them take a lot more skill than you think. (Not the bolte)

[hard cave]

I disagree. Vehicles would need to work WITH infantry to cap a point, not just have the capacity to roll onto a point and take it by themselves. Tanks clear, infantry takes. Isn't that the point of a tank IRL? Tanks as a compliment to infantry?

As well, vehicles could play defensive roles and offensive roles. Sure they can't cap or defend, but you gotta take out the MBT on the point before you can cap for the traditional reason: bullets.

Plus, who thinks it's OK for a little bird to cap an objective from the air? Imagine that in a real world affair

[scenic tartan]

It would take far too long to point out everything that's misguided in that post

[hexed mango]

for the very last point, this game is not supposed to mimic real life events, so it doesn’t matter.

[mental delta]

The game lacks an AC-130 kind plane

It could be the AC-140

Or the AC-135 a mix between the two others

I'm kidding we're never gonna see that type of shit

[flat brook]

I humbly disagree with your Opinion, I think battlefield 2042 is Supposed to be a prediction of the future

I mean look at Russia

[mental delta]

Troll ?

[flat brook]

I am not a troll.

[mental delta]

No you are Davidson, Pete Davidson

[radiant prism]

Theres a distinct difference between realism and balance, for one thing. In addition, any well defended point with competent AT players will absolutely demolish a tank. An uncontested point is uncontested, and should absolutely just get taken.

[scenic tartan]

There is not some great problem with mbt tanks occupying objectives and being totally impervious and unable to be destroyed

In the same way little birds cannot just hover over a contested point freely.

Both of them become targets for multiple launchers and die quickly

[flat brook]

I’m sorry that I have a crush on Pete Davidson, but that has nothing to do with it

[mental delta]

This guy looks like the fucking mice in Shrek

[hard cave]

I'll play in vehicles more. But it won't stop it from sucking every time you as an inf player are put behind cover unable to kill 1 other equally skilled player because they like tank gameplay and you don't.

[scenic tartan]

Everything in this game has counters and weaknesses

If you have a SMG you can't do much against the dmr in cover at 300m

If you have a sniper you can't do much against a SMG user who rushes you

[mental delta]

You argue with a guy who argued with another guy arguing himself with this guy

[hard cave]

Sure you can. Approach with cover.

[mental delta]

I guess that's why they put pistols in the game even if they suck

[scenic tartan]

That has always been the way battlefield was designed - every single player has some gap in their ability to deal with everything on the battlefield

Tanks are helpless against air vehicles that have AGM missles

So you work as a squad trying to cover as many vulnerable spots as possible

This idea that every player should be equal and nobody should ever have an advantage or be in a position of superiority in any situation goes against what the game is designed to be

[flat brook]

I don’t agree i think me and Pete could have some very good looking biological kids together

[hard cave]

Except nobody works as a squad in this game. Unless you boot up with your IRL or online friends (can't you tell I have none) you're stuck playing with randos who don't stick together at all, forget coordinating.

[mental delta]

I thought you were a guy

[scenic tartan]

Then maybe you could try playing with groups on this discord I have done it many times people here are cool

[mental delta]

But do you see how weird what you've just said is

[hard cave]

I'm not saying there should never be superiority or disadvantage. I'm saying that the only option someone has should never be "well, guess I'll just die then."

[scenic tartan]

Do people complain that warzone squads are too strong vs random players that are matched up? That's unavoidable

[mental delta]

Dying is part of fps games

[scenic tartan]

And when the tank driver is shooting at a point and a player runs up behind them and throws c5 and kills them, do they "just die then?"

[edgy oriole]

if you not dying, you not trying

[scenic tartan]

I dont understand what the complaint is, everybody gets countered/outplayed

[mental delta]

Or you a real good player

[hexed mango]

i mean you can’t accurately predict that, plus this was made before the current conflict and ik that tensions were already tight, but my former point was that this game isn’t trying to be a realistic military simulation. in this game a helicopter can capture an objective, the other guy was saying that this shouldn’t be possible

[mental delta]

Unlike in cod in which campers never get outplayed

[mental delta]

Yeah I don't think a helicopter will do that in real life

[scenic tartan]

If I'm a tank driver and I approach a point that's got 5-6 players on it, I have no way of knowing if they are all using m5 and if they will all shoot at once and kill you instantly

[mental delta]

M5 guys killing a guy in a tank?

[hexed mango]

yeah but in bf it’s fine, and i think it’s fine because it’s a game; and not supposed to be realistic

[edgy oriole]

yesterday i lost b2 on hourglass to 2 boltes bc all 20 of us that were there had no AT

[mental delta]

It's fine and even fun, like you are capturing a point with 6 other weirdos and suddenly another weirdo arrives with his chopper to take you to the next point

[hard cave]

They at least have a chance to avoud that. If a tank knows you are there, there is no running away and living.

[hard cave]

This

[scenic tartan]

Tanks are not even good against infantry

You shoot and kill one if it's a direct hit, then the main gun needs to reload

[mental delta]

In BF2042 yes but not in other battlefield games

[hexed mango]

precisely

[torpid shuttle]

Hello there. Is Anthem 2.042 good as Bf2 or Bf3 yet?

[edgy oriole]

it wont be for you so idk why you keep asking

[hardy leaf]

never

[jovial minnow]

anthem deez nutz

[torpid shuttle]

Because I want it be good as Bf2 or Bf3.

[hardy leaf]

you have to become a shill for that

[edgy oriole]

your in asian market. unless they allow cheating again its gonna be dead

i heard bfv is right up that asian market alley rn. if you wanna try that

[torpid shuttle]

Damn... After cheat company stop support Anthem 2.042, the server from my region is dead.

[edgy oriole]

just like anything with technology. itll change in time. im sure more and more companies will learn to combat easy anti cheat.

[flat brook]

Biologically woman, identify as they/them, so i have a gender neutral name i made up on here and this pfp

Though i get it most people assume who they talk to is a guy online if there is nothing that indicates woman.

[mental delta]

But you are woman, why whould they identify you as a guy

[flat brook]

if i don’t use a name or anything that instantly identities me as a woman, i’m assumed a guy

and I usually never use anything that identifies me as a woman, lol

[mental delta]

I don't understand what you're trying to say is that they consider you as a man or you consider yourself as a man

[flat brook]

I’d say they consider me as a man?

Which is what I personally like.

I don’t personally consider myself a man though.

They/them

[compact sleet]

How can you be gay if you don’t have a gender tho?

[flat brook]

your killing me, i don’t consider myself ‘gay’ i just like acting like a guy

[radiant prism]

This chat rn

[edgy oriole]

[foggy halo]

HIGH IQ NEEDED

[halcyon lake]

Chat's filled with weirdos. How new.

[radiant prism]

Fuckin true tbh

[halcyon lake]

Times were simpler huh.

[radiant prism]

Once upon a time….

[hexed mango]

[foggy halo]

@halcyon lakeyour pfp is kind of weird too :D

[halcyon lake]

It's cute!

[radiant prism]

I don’t talk to people with Kia Stinger PFPs

At least I assume that’s a stinger

[hexed mango]

oddly specific but alright

[foggy halo]

No Kia vehicle has ever fired a stinger missile yet

[halcyon lake]

Like Wikipedia says, You can always do and make events yourselves.

[gritty cape]

Is there a rush mode on Battlefield 2042 ???

[foggy halo]

@radiant prismit's not a kia stinger. its a kia k5.

[hexed mango]

portal

[radiant prism]

yet

[tiny imp]

KIA K5 is awesome. To bad there are only in US.

[mental delta]

Lmao the killer has arrived

[brittle forge]

[foggy halo]

[compact sleet]

Lol but fr I don’t get it. How can you be gay if you don’t have a gender? Cause being gay is when your attracted to your own gender

[solid imp]

Orrrrr... M5 damage against all vehicles stays the same BUT if it's laser guided by soflam it isn't affected by standard flares or smoke. Give all vehicles an unlockable IR smoke package

Whereas a "self guided/locked" AA missile would still be jammed up by flares of all kinds but do more damage to aircraft, hear me out... Still balanced because you are only countering air, not putting down beacons, ammo boxes, etc

[edgy oriole]

does only tanks have ir smoke?

[solid imp]

I thought? But I'm not much of a pilot so could be missing an unlock

[edgy oriole]

i dont play vehicles i just recently found out there is IR smoke through some other arguement the other day people were having. idk what all vehicles has it. lol

[flat brook]

God bless america

[solid imp]

Could also make sure it's only certain vehicles with that upgrade so after the vehicle rebalance this month we don't have loads of LATV which effectively can't be locked. But they've had IR smoke as a standard package in previous BF and it was a pretty good balancer so infantry doing the AA thing are powerful but not automatically clearing the skies

[elder patrol]

When the fuck is early summer

[tiny imp]

early summer

[foggy halo]

1 June to 18 June.

[tiny imp]

one map, one specialist

[edgy oriole]

if we talking US then lateish june is summer

[compact sleet]

Well yeah normally

[thorn helm]

https://tenor.com/view/polish-artillery-cannon-gif-15211228

[hexed mango]

21st to be exact

[white geyser]

IDK where to start, I guess they can add two things add switch team option, let me remind you the previous battlefield games does have switch team option if you haven’t played it, and please add tv missile for the wildcat’s tank secondary weapon

[patent elbow]

Does switching teams count as a win?

[white geyser]

No, that’s not how it works raiders fan

[tiny imp]

Battlefield 2042
2,317
playing seconds ago
(Steam)

[grizzled whale]

Angel doesnt see who asked

[tiny imp]

[hexed mango]

"sTeAm ChARtS"

[compact sleet]

Steam charts accurately represent all platforms 🤡

[glossy storm]

At this point, we get it.

[silk jasper]

The average low is now like 1049 players

[hexed mango]

"StEaM ChArTs"

[silk jasper]

also bfv and bf1 is now consistently topping bf2042's player count by some amount

[hexed mango]

"stEaM ChArTs"

[wide violet]

2042 andys gonna scree if yall dont stop

[silk jasper]

idk man its pretty worrying the fact that the player count now makes up 1% to that of the launch number (100,590 at launch steam charts)

[hexed mango]

"steam charts"

[silk jasper]

Why do you keep quoting steam charts?

[hexed mango]

"steam charts?"

@edgy oriole did you see? its "steam charts"!

[wide violet]

basement and a few others will defend this game until the day the servers shut down. And then theyll speak as if it was the best BF game to have ever existed

so in essence he is mocking you

[hexed mango]

ive never said its the best bf game

[silk jasper]

Idk why they don't think Steam charts is a good indicator to the overall trend, they must be pretty delusional to think otherwise. Why would consoles not see a similar trend? It's as if they think the contrary is happening

[hexed mango]

cause steam only makes up a portion of the pc players, and pc players only make up a fraction of all players.

[compact sleet]

Most players for any game are console because consoles are cheaper and simpler.

[fallen yarrow]

Ya, only PC players (and specifically steam, which is the most popular platform by a huge margin) hate 2042. Everyone else enjoys the game and there are thousands and thousands of players playing regularly. The overwhelmingly negative reviews are only on steam (All other review sites rate it 10/10)

[slender badger]

Is there a counter where you can see how many people are playing 2042 at the moment ?

[fallen yarrow]

And you can't compare 2042 steam numbers to previous battlefields....you have to remember that previously battlefields didn't even launch on steam. So that makes the comparison even more abysmal for BF 2042

[fallen yarrow]

No, there's only one platform that shares actual numbers. But don't be fooled by the 99% drop in player count there. All other platforms have retained a good playerbase COPIUM

[wide violet]

argument is you can theoretically follow data trends on steam and apply it on a broad spectrum to determine the health of 2042

[silk jasper]

Are you seriously saying that the negative reviews are only on steam

bruh

[wide violet]

but that is too big brain for this discord

[silk jasper]

aye just disregard the literal thousands of youtube vids ranting on about this game and other articles

[fallen yarrow]

No no no, that only works when discussing with people who understand math and statistics. You cant use that argument here. I fiND gaMeS iNstanTly

[patent elbow]

So I’m playing with bots

[fallen yarrow]

Stop insulting the players that enjoy the game. They may be bad at the game...but you can't just call them bots

[patent elbow]

No actual bots

Why is it in this chat arguments happen alot

[compact sleet]

I do play with a lot of bots from time to time but usually after a couple minutes the server fills right up

[fallen yarrow]

As the world stands on the brink of war, a new kind of stateless soldier emerges from the greatest crisis in human history. How did we get here?

[tiny imp]

You dont pay this expensive only multiplayer game to play against bots. Just sayin

[compact sleet]

I don’t pay expensive multiplayer games I buy them

[white geyser]

[arctic grove]

This is basically DICE and EA

https://youtube.com/shorts/oObgKOrd9VI?feature=share

The negative perception of the game on PC and the player count would probably be slightly different if the game was properly optimized for different PCs

Lack of content would still be a problem though. But we already know it’s coming to the game, so

[cobalt flower]

WE GOT A NUMBER 1 VICTORY ROYALE

[cedar turtle]

Yeah fortine, we bout to get down

[arctic grove]

https://twitter.com/temporyal/status/1512399859566981121/photo/1

This twitter account is giving me the same feeling BFV enjoyers felt when there were Russian and Italians in game files, but luckily this games content cycle is just starting, so who knows what'll be included from this entire account

[scenic tartan]

That marking ammo is a terrible idea

[lament zephyr]

just bought the game on steam , it feels like I got scammed , not what I expected at all , I should have listened to the reviews

[arctic grove]

More ways to be spotted

nothing could go wrong

[edgy oriole]

we back to steam charts again (or were) like clock work

[scenic tartan]

SCAMMMED!!!!

[arctic grove]

well pikachu if you dont mind me asking what makes you feel its a scam? for you personally?

[lament zephyr]

yea 😦 , the game is worse than call of duty WW2

[edgy oriole]

[scenic tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-i-dont-believe-you-smoking-gif-13523062

[arctic grove]

by the way unless youve had the game for more than 2 weeks and or have more than 10 hrs playtime you should easily be able to refund

[hexed mango]

seems to be how it works

[scenic tartan]

The steam charts really are horrible though

[glossy storm]

That's SteamDB...

[arctic grove]

whats that game?

[glossy storm]

Amogus Susy Baki.

[arctic grove]

that sounds like a masterpiece

[hexed mango]

damn i hate this

context: i live in a 100 year old house, has bad internet

[scenic tartan]

Tear it down build a new one

[hexed mango]

well you see

[gritty cape]

I live in a 10 year old house , has good internet , but a bad PC

[scenic tartan]

it looks like you might have a better experience over 5g or lte

[hexed mango]

my parents got divorced, they have joint custody, im at my dad's house (the old one), my mom's house has ethernet and really good connection.
my pc is really good, but at this house it is useless...

plus, i was gone last week so im trying to do the weekly rn, i dont think im going to be able to do it

[gritty cape]

Play solo games , it's maybe the best solution

[hexed mango]

i cant even manage killing 1 bot

[hexed mango]

you cant complete the weekly in solo can you?

[wide shore]

You cannot

[hexed mango]

and plus its just as laggy cause its still online

[lament zephyr]

why your parents got divorced?

[hexed mango]

my dad has a girlfriend.

[lament zephyr]

unloyal man he is , hope your mom will find a better husband

[hexed mango]

she doesnt really plan on doing anything ¯_(ツ)_/¯

it just kinda sucks that my brother and I have to spend a week on, week off basis between the houses, because its quite difficult to manage and as stated, the wifi here is ass

[lament zephyr]

if i was you , i wouldnt stay at your father house after what he did , totally unacceptable , plus they have children togeather , what a mad lad

[hexed mango]

its not up to me unfortunately

[flat brook]

I feel like the only issue with battlefield 2042 is they need a transgender operator. They have a non-binary one, but I feel like they need to be more inclusive towards transgender and other parts of the LGBT community. But sundance is a step forward for the franchise

[lament zephyr]

understood , I wish you well and best of luck , Hope things will get better for you

[golden hornet]

Look some positive vibe in this chat 👍

[hexed mango]

i hope so aswell

[silk surge]

I think 2042 would have saved itself from the backlash if they had witheld even announcing PORTAL until after the game launched. Imagine if the PORTAL trailer had been released 2 months ago instead.

[hexed mango]

ok i understand, but i dont think that is really a game-dev concern.
representation, sure, but thats not going to magically make the game perfect.
again dont get me wrong, im not against the idea, its just that its not going to solve the other issues with the game, thats all

[lament zephyr]

the devs of the game need to fix bugs and make improvement to the game , LGBT skins won't make the game any better bozo

[flat brook]

I feel like it is a really important issue and all it needs is a specialist spot in one of the next seasons.

[silk surge]

LGBT skins? Care to elaborate?

[hexed mango]

for someone with half a second of delay, 2 kills aint bad

[lament zephyr]

rainbow flag

[flat brook]

They should include some rainbow flags in the game. Maybe with the transgender operator

[lament zephyr]

Janz is trolling xD

[hexed mango]

flashbacks to santa claus skin

[flat brook]

Im not though?

[silk surge]

Ok? I asked you to elaborate and all you say is 'rainbow flag', wtf am I supposed to do with that?

[flat brook]

They need to support minorities

[lament zephyr]

do with it as you wish

[edgy oriole]

this what i deal with on the reg

[hexed mango]

im not a part of this, but i think they meant a skin that is rainbow colored, smth like that idk

[lament zephyr]

Janz wake up dude , they think game dev care about people? they just care about your wallet

[silk surge]

Gotcha, you don't even know what you're talking about.

[hexed mango]

:( please help me

[flat brook]

They need hispanic operators, black operators, asian operators, south african operators, etc, along with operators from all parts of the lgbtq community

[hexed mango]

dozer: am i joke to you

paik: am i joke to you

[flat brook]

No no it is a step forward for the game that they do have those operators

[lament zephyr]

emmm , half asian operator , half american lol

[hexed mango]

irish: am i a joke to you

[edgy oriole]

you learn to shoot where you think the enemy is going
a lot of questionable deaths are just you lagging and standing in the open when you think you on some tactical shit

[flat brook]

But they do need to make sure that they cover all races

[lament zephyr]

Jews operators sound dope , I would buy 100%

[edgy oriole]

boris

[silk surge]

That's the Battlefield experience.

[flat brook]

Yes a Jewish operator sounds good

Maybe make the jewish operator transgender while your at it

[silk surge]

I don't think that specialists are here to stay, so this whole convo might be redundant.

[hexed mango]

Judaism denies this

[lament zephyr]

Naz* operators should be banned though

[flat brook]

It would be a massive mistake if they got rid of specialists in future games

[sleek latch]

Hmmmm. Lets keep the chat civil

[flat brook]

That’s not a race, that’s germans

[lament zephyr]

France white flag flashbacks

[flat brook]

but they should be banned, germans shouldn’t be bannned

[hexed mango]

n......ism is not german, jujst fyi

[flat brook]

Just the ones supporting that ideology

[flat brook]

i mean guys during wwii they were germans cmon im not saying they’re german right now im@saying they were germans before mainly

[hexed mango]

ok but these are not concerns of 2042.

[flat brook]

Yes it is a concern of 2042 that we have german operators. The other guy brought up that ideology.

[hexed mango]

and my point still stands.

[flat brook]

Ok? And? Im@not the one that started talking about it.

[hexed mango]

and? was i talking to you

[edgy oriole]

[flat brook]

If your going to discriminate against me you need to go pray with a pastor or something.

[hexed mango]

uhm... i did not do such a thing, so dont try to create a false conviction there, and im not religious, and even if i was, there are no pastors in my religion

[flat brook]

Im just making sure, calm down.

[hexed mango]

Yeah "calm down" says the person who just tried to blame me for discriminating against them when i wasnt even trying to argue with them...

[flat brook]

Please, calm down. If your going to try to argue with me, go to DM’s at least.

[hexed mango]

i literally just said i wasnt trying to argue in the first place

[flat brook]

Please.

[sleek latch]

Let's move on. and not make any sarcastic commentary

[hexed mango]

im not trying to create a conflict, i was just talking, what aral said

[edgy oriole]

yeah thats a block. seems baity to me. id suggest the same basement

[flat brook]

I agree. I think it’d be in your best interest as well so now we can all move on

[arctic grove]

Skete

[hexed mango]

how come on discord i get only 14ms :(

[edgy oriole]

bc 2042 servers are kinda poo poo in the first place

[hexed mango]

yeah i really want to finish this weekly but i dont think ill be able to

ima go play lego star wars...

[edgy oriole]

its just a polygon charm so shouldnt sweat about it

[hexed mango]

just finished installing

[arctic grove]

the one I really want is just that Boris helmet

[hexed mango]

when im home next week ill be able to do whatever challenge is up, but at this house, my desk hurts my arms, my chair is poop, and the internet is absolute dog water

[cedar turtle]

[grave prism]

i bet the fkin nattlepass or whatever the fk gonna be like 50 gun charms and a single skin at the very end

[arctic grove]

lol that would be depressing

[tribal needle]

bf1 or 5 5's pacific dlc is actully pretty good

[wide shore]

BF1

[scenic tartan]

Everyone with Ellen DeGeneres avatars in the server are trolls

[tribal needle]

bf 2042 in short is a complete scam.

However if you wan't a modern shooter battlefield I highly recc it has a pretty active playerbase and is considered to be the best battlefield

[bitter hill]

where's the campaign?

[tribal needle]

[bitter hill]

I paid full price

[tribal needle]

There's no campign

I know it sucks

[bitter hill]

are you saying they took my money and then sum and they gave me half a game

half a open beta game

[tribal needle]

Yes.

[hexed mango]

if you bought the game hoping for a campaign, you must of not paid attention before the game released, because ea/dice said that it would be only online.

[pine roost]

Tbf, there will probably be a number of people who buy it and go ‘well other battlefield games have campaigns, I wonder what this one will be like’, those who didn’t do much research beforehand

[cedar turtle]

As much as I would like to pile on BF2042, nobody took our money. We gave it to them.

[bitter hill]

I gave it to them expecting bf4 2

[pine roost]

I gave it to them because I haven’t been excited for a new game launch since titanfall 2

[cedar turtle]

[pine roost]

Needless to say I got too carried away

[tribal needle]

greetings fellow tf2 enjoyer

[cedar turtle]

My brother in Christ it's 7pm here and I'm at a fkn H&R Block

[tribal needle]

well who knows they learn from their mistakes, and might remaster bf3

[pine roost]

It’s 00:01 here and I’m perusing the 2042 channel for a shred of information about this next patch

[wide shore]

Is there like, a medic strike today I didn’t know about?

It’s not even like I’m just not getting rezzed. I haven’t even seen medics near me and I’m dying in populated areas.

[tribal needle]

cuase everone knows the best specilists are: Assualt,support,engineer and, recon

[arctic grove]

thank you so much

[hexed mango]

And yet you want to forget that it's launch was also bad

[tribal needle]

np man

[arctic grove]

your bf3 remaster is in portal

[tribal needle]

Well it wasn't as bad as this

[arctic grove]

chances are the next project could be modern time period without specialists and 64 player matches, but i cant tell you anything that isnt speculation for another 2-3 yrs

[wide shore]

👀

[arctic grove]

bf4s launch was even worst

the game literally did not work

[tribal needle]

bf4 had the most technical issues

but bf2042?

[abstract otter]

For sure but at least like 3 dlcs had come out

[tribal needle]

this

[arctic grove]

yes, it did have about 3 dlcs out by this time

again... the game did not work for like 6+ months

[abstract otter]

At least there were things to do you know

[tribal needle]

and atleast 4's devs didn't try to turn the franchise into a hero shooter

[arctic grove]

that is true. i perceive whats going on with 2042 as the devs taking stability and bug fixes first, and then allowing more manpower to be allocated to content in Summer

[tribal needle]

bf 2042 has technical issues,presentation issues, and gameplay issues that did not happen with other games

it's foundation is shit

[arctic grove]

its certainly for monetization, all that can be done about them now is reworking them

[cobalt flower]

Time to deliver a pizza ball

[arctic grove]

as i personally think, the specialists are okay, but ill be fine without them in a future installment

[hexed mango]

at least 2042 launched with 3 game modes, 3 remasters, a server browser, custom servers
and already has a planned year of release content, with specialists, maps, guns, skins, etc.

You can't just say "there were dlcs" because 2042 isn't built off dlcs. it has its 3 game modes, aow, hz, portal, aow having 4 modes inside of it, along with coop and multiplayer selections
hz having a unique gameplay experience with its own gameplay system
portal having remasters of 3 other bf titles, along with 2042 stuff, and the ability to create and host your own servers for free, and have them on the server browser

also, crossplay.

[tribal needle]

are you stupid?

[arctic grove]

no need to insult anyone now

that isnt how you go about a constructive discussion

[hexed mango]

. (sorry for ping, forgot to check the button)

[arctic grove]

it doesnt make him stupid to disagree

[tribal needle]

The game did not have a server browser at launch

[hexed mango]

this game did.

[tribal obsidian]

While I dislike the League of Extraordinary Fellows, it's not like the gameplay changes fundamentally.

[arctic grove]

thats true as well

gadgets eh sure, they shift it a bit, but we have to be realistic; the specialists and their abilities are meant to be very similar to the standard class system, its simply just them being expressed in abilities instead of locked gadgets and guns

[tribal obsidian]

It's still battlefield

[warped pulsar]

When the update arriving?!

[arctic grove]

most probably late into this next week

[tribal needle]

bf4 had more maps and guns at launch

[compact sleet]

We could use more guns and maps but the game is still pretty solid now

[arctic grove]

Hope they lock guns and gadgets to certain specialists

[hexed mango]

nah thats a terrible idea

[arctic grove]

yeah thats true but how much guns did you usually see used in 4. yeah, a handful for each class. i want more guns and maps too, but i want more guns and maps only when each gun has its own disadvantages and advantages

[hearty flame]

Theres not enough of either to do that

[hexed mango]

there are already 4 more guns apparently in the works

[arctic grove]

True

or would you rather just have them add a bunch of guns that dont really play different from one another, i mean its still content so if you say yes its not entirely not understandable, but cmon

[hearty flame]

Nothing wrong with choice though

[arctic grove]

yeah, its understandable

like I always say I’d like something similar to the ARX-160 in game, really nice looking rifle

[wide shore]

I hope not. Do it in the next game. Changing it now would be stupid.

[arctic grove]

in that case that makes me wonder what the specialist rework will be

[desert elbow]

No it didn’t

It had like 4 more guns and less maps

[upbeat sand]

masterkey underbarrel is underated

[silk jasper]

stockholm syndrome

[heavy sleet]

lol these guys used some weird glitch where they had a tactical insertion beacon placed underneath this bridge and it couldnt be blown up[

so i just camped it and kept killing them XDDDDDDD LUL

[arctic grove]

LLULLLLLLULULULULUO9OOLK,'

[heavy sleet]

gdfshdkjhfgh

on kaleidoscope weird bug

well glitch i guess lul

[hexed mango]

you can place a beacon in the elevator and if the elevator isnt in that same spot, and you spawn on it, you can be inside the buildings :)

im assuming that its something similar

[heavy sleet]

LOL yeah probably

[hexed mango]

lol

[heavy sleet]

i tried shooting it, blowing it up and it wouldnt do anything

[hexed mango]

im gonna try playing again with my 2000000 ms ping

[heavy sleet]

GL

[upbeat sand]

This place has been pretty dead recently

[hexed mango]

this server?

[wraith heart]

This game is such a scam

[hexed mango]

when

[hexed mango]

suprisingly, my ping is only like 15-20ms, with an occasional bump up to like 100-200ms

[arctic grove]

Hahaha got em there

[hexed mango]

who

[arctic grove]

Your mom

[hexed mango]

what

[scenic tartan]

reddit has really settled on "game is a scam" huh?

[drowsy sapphire]

Got the whole “squad” laughing eh?

[arctic grove]

Yep. Everyone is laughing

,everyone is wrong sometimes

[drowsy sapphire]

How do you know

[arctic grove]

The real question is how do you do not know?

[drowsy sapphire]

Cause nobody responded to you for 20 minutes saying “wow… your so funny I might die of laughter”….

[arctic grove]

When?

[drowsy sapphire]

So as I said… you got the whole “squad” laughing eh?

[arctic grove]

Idk do I? Does it matter?

🤨

[drowsy sapphire]

If it didn’t matter then why waste some time from your life typing it into a battlefield discord server

[arctic grove]

You’re wasting your time typing to me? 🤨

[drowsy sapphire]

No.. because I am already smart… and I am texting somebody who isn’t as smart as me and should spend their own time becoming more funny

[plucky pebble]

lmao

[arctic grove]

Here’s the thing, I strive for greatness. You strive to bring people down. Maybe you should improve your social skills and enjoy life instead of shitting on other people

[hexed mango]

your mom

[drowsy sapphire]

Bruh…

I was kinda defending you and that happens

[arctic grove]

He was literally going to say “who asked” ya goof 😭

[hexed mango]

i have nothing against @arctic grove

we were both in complete understanding of the joke

there is no need for any hostility

[arctic grove]

Everyone chooses hostility over positivity.

[drowsy sapphire]

Lol why would I improve my social skills and try bringing peoples life down wtf, I’m having the time of my life enjoying life playing video games with friends and doing activities while I’m young

[drowsy sapphire]

What does that even mean

[arctic grove]

128 players or og 64 player count?

[hexed mango]

there are both.

[drowsy sapphire]

Anyways I was looking at earlier messages, somebody said something about 2042 having more guns and maps then the older battlefields?

What was that about lol

[drowsy sapphire]

This was the message

[arctic grove]

idk why they never added 128 players for 2042 for console? is it hardware limitations for player count or, the playstation servers or xbox servers might overload

[hexed mango]

uhm that message wasn’t about it having more… idk if you can read but it doesn’t say more

[hexed mango]

only next gen consoles have it, ps5, series x/s

[drowsy sapphire]

Well I didn’t remember what it said Mr

[arctic grove]

They said it was too chaotic for the old generational consoles. It would probably not run it well

[drowsy sapphire]

Next gen has it not old gen tho, it’s hardware can’t handle the game for 128 🤷‍♂️

I think people were saying about removing 128 globally and making the game have only 64 players right? That was some crazy stuff lol

[hexed mango]

no official word on that, i would imagine they would keep 128

[drowsy sapphire]

Well yea

[arctic grove]

They aren’t removing 128. It was one of their selling points. Plus 64p is dead as a doornail

[drowsy sapphire]

I was just saying about you people talking about how they should add 64 as the only player count

[hexed mango]

actually i’ve been getting full games on 64p breakthrough

[arctic grove]

When I play, most of them are bots

[hexed mango]

i was only playing it because i was interested in map differences tbh

i got a full 32v32 game so idk

[drowsy sapphire]

You play on daytime or nighttime, cause I’m eastern and the game gets kind of dead during night, hazard zone is definitely a lot more difficult to find a match for

[hexed mango]

i haven’t found a hz match since release lol

[arctic grove]

I normally play late on night on east coast. Rarely find full games

[drowsy sapphire]

“YOU HAVEN’T FOUND A HAZARD ZONE SERVERRRRR”… THIS IS THE 4 MONTH OLD BATTLEFIELD GAMMEEEE

man… people definitely giving up on this game

[arctic grove]

HZ is dead and no one ever wanted it

[drowsy sapphire]

I just imagine a guy making a funny strip about 2042 and they say that line in quotes in a deep movie trailer voice and then once they say that it goes

I think the game is good, I’ve been taking a break because it just gets a bit repetitive, but I gotta play it again, cause it’s been like 3 weeks of not playing with my squads, friends, and people that I’ve met that are funny and great to play with

Anyhoo I’m out

And I do not want to say what I’ve been playing instead of 2042

[cedar turtle]

Barbies Horse Adventures?

[hardy leaf]

after 4 months, this is an understatement

[drowsy sapphire]

No… it starts with … with c

[drowsy sapphire]

I know

[hardy leaf]

most of them are bots for everyone who plays, but shills dont wanna admit it,

[upbeat sand]

how u guys feel about the new hele and bolte changes

[wide shore]

Can’t come soon enough

I can’t fucking stand getting blasted by, and ran over by boltes

Same with nightbirds

[tribal obsidian]

But you just know people are going to choose a nightbird or a bolte over a tank or jet

[arctic grove]

and roblox games look considerably worst and are significantly easier to make

roblox is lit tho

[arctic grove]

thats what im worried about. trolls taking up boltes in all your teams armored vehicles slots

[scenic tartan]

This game can be so good in conquest

[arctic grove]

making an insanely low amount of bugs in comparison and content way easier to make, it isnt even really a comparison. roblox itself is theoretically an engine, and i dont know game deving but im pretty sure frostbite is a lot less easy to work with

maybe, maybe it was both incompetence as well as inexperience

i dont know what youre playing on but the game looks great lol

[tribal obsidian]

^

[arctic grove]

yeah of course they are. its a standard industry practice to publish one game and then start working on the next. nothing new mate.

didnt hear that after MW19 was released they started thinking about MW2 which is set to release later this year did you

LOD? im not familiar with that

there are several studios on both the next project, and 2042. even tom henderson says that in the same article all of you took and ran with to say 2042 was such a disaster "theyre making a new game", as if even if 2042 was a major success there wouldnt be blueprints for the next one in the works at the same time.

theres no way for either you nor i to tell how many studios and people are exactly allocated to 2042

level of detail and how 'empty' the maps are is more of a game design choice not really the graphics, despite the maps flaws they actually look great, just play horribly

i guess if you want to think so but i feel like youre trolling.. either that or you have no idea how the industry for these games works at all

this feels like trolling

do you have any idea of the fact that it is a common industry practice to publish these games, then start working on the next? it is literally not a new concept

there is still manpower and studios allocated to 2042 because they legally cant drop out till a year after season 1 begins

[thorny orchid]

Neo relax. Everything will be alright. Lets all come together to hold a prayer 🙏

[arctic grove]

after season 1 ends its their full discretion to start S2 or just drop the game lol

[royal swan]

With our low numbers of caring not a chance

[thorny orchid]

They promised one year, not one season

One year is 4 seasons

[bitter skiff]

There are no consequences for their actions

[arctic grove]

yes, i stand corrected

im not sure if youre saying publish a game, then start working on the next is where we're getting fcked over or just the state of the game

i honestly agree that they shouldnt be able to do this but keep in mind millions of casuals will buy every new battlefield just to have something to play until the next biggest game comes out

[bitter skiff]

I feel awful for folks who preordered deluxe editions. Exactly the folks who shouldnt be punished for backing

[royal swan]

The industry on all sides has been fucking us for fucking years this is no surprise

[arctic grove]

cod did this after mw19 which was a major success in my opinion lmao

[thorny orchid]

They were working on witcher before cyberpunk even came out. It was reported they were already working on it.

[arctic grove]

after BFV released guess what game would eventually be talked about in the planning rooms

...yup, 2042

and i dont know you personally but you probably love BFV

no matter how the game did, as long as they get the sales, thats all they care about, theyre in it for money and thats why once one title is ready to go, thats when the next immediately begins its planning

[royal swan]

Gotta love that American capitalism

[thorny orchid]

Yes they were. They began working on the new witcher when cyberpunk began wrapping up development. Every studio with multiple projects does this even if its buggy.

[arctic grove]

you would need everyone, even the millions of casual players to all just refuse to play and buy battlefield games before you get them to release a game with content and stability

[royal swan]

That's a proper way to fuck a greedy business

[arctic grove]

indeed indeed

[thorny orchid]

Ok? And it was reported that they were working on witcher before cyberpunk came out

[royal swan]

Make the majority stop buying products from a shit industry

[scenic tartan]

Man am I tired of the constant complaining about this game

Everybody has heard it already

[royal swan]

More on the industry than the actual game itself

[scenic tartan]

You wish the game was more like call of duty ok I get it

[royal swan]

Never said that

[arctic grove]

thats why indie fps games are taking off lately, expect COD and Battlefield to actually start having their pockets run dry (which.... will probably never happen but for the sake of the scenario) and youll see a massive jump in quality

[royal swan]

Small companies are less likely to be greedy until that large amount of $ corrupts them

[scenic tartan]

I'm so tired of these cod fans coming in and because their game sucks they want battlefield to be more like call of duty and whine about vehicles and whine about cover because they are terrible at the game

[thorny orchid]

1.) How do you know this?

2.) How do you know Dice isn't doing the same thing?

3.) Literally every studio does this so what is your argument?

[scenic tartan]

Oh the game is too hard there's too many vehicles

[arctic grove]

its probably not the vehicles as much as it is the lack of general cover especially overhead

[royal swan]

Who is saying that right now

I'm genuinely wanting to know these cod fucks you speak of

[arctic grove]

the proposed changes to make vehicles spawn times longer worries me... im not 100% vehicle player but i play them pretty heavily, and im never gonna be the only person wanting to tank or fly on my team so thatll just make it worst

[scenic tartan]

Oh I can't just spawn behind somebody and start shooting them a half a second later this game is a scam

[thorny orchid]

Dice never announced anything lmao. It was reported by Tom that they are in preproduction of the next BF. Since when does dice tell u things?

U really just said dice announced the next bf 💀😭

no its not

[royal swan]

You can't be serious

[thorny orchid]

They havent said anything. Tom has insiders at dice

Nice subject change

[royal swan]

If DICE haven't said anything then it's not entirely true

[arctic grove]

neos right, we shouldnt let dice purposefully do what theyre doing, like, 2042 shouldve never released the way it did

but like.... he has 0 idea what the hell hes talking about concerning the next title and what that means for 2042. he thinks because its in VERY VERY EARLY pre-production that means 2042 was abandoned. no it doesnt

[royal swan]

That not what abandoned means

[arctic grove]

thats because there were far more important things to worry about before a scoreboard. lol

[scenic tartan]

Almost every complaint about this game is from braindead cod players that have been accustomed to shooting and getting shot every 3 seconds

[thorny orchid]

Ye they didnt say anything lmao. It was tom who reported that preproduction is ongoing. Tom has insiders at dice so of course he knows what projects they are working on. Thats literally not an announcement so idk what neo is talking about

[royal swan]

Tom's a bitch

[thorny orchid]

Bro u just say shit lmfao

[arctic grove]

its been on sale plenty of times

also, depends on what issues youre talking about. some are already being addressed or are still being thought out to address

[thorny orchid]

Please give neo the "misinformation" role

This is apex but ok bud

[royal swan]

Nope. Bottom of the barrel insult

[arctic grove]

hes gotta be trolling now

[scenic tartan]

🤭 🤭

[thorny orchid]

Bruh wut

[arctic grove]

eh, a lot from those 100,000+ negative reviews is undeniable, so they dont bother me lol

[thorny orchid]

Lmao im not the one who made the game. why tf would I care

[royal swan]

For who.

[arctic grove]

those reviews would only be a problem if you believe the game has ZERO issues

[hexed mango]

there's also a large portion that are just goofing to get steam points

[arctic grove]

yup true

[royal swan]

True lol

[thorny orchid]

Neo needs some place to voice his fustration so he pretends we are dice and voices it at us

[scenic tartan]

Hate brigaders that never played it after the open beta

Thousands of redditors eager to shit on the next "bad game"

[arctic grove]

wouldnt say that at all but okey

[royal swan]

Good thing I have a younger sibling to yell at so I don't look like a totally loser when losing arguments

[thorny orchid]

🤣

[royal swan]

[thorny orchid]

Neo its ok...get it all out

I'll tell dice u said this so they can make the game better

[royal swan]

Damn right. After that head on collision the dog probably when flying

[thorny orchid]

💀

hahahaha 😭😐

[royal swan]

Man these insults are wack

[tribal obsidian]

Wtf does that mean

[royal swan]

Hey he's trying his best

[thorny orchid]

Neo you gotta try harder man. Think of something funny

[tribal obsidian]

If anything it's overcrowded

[arctic grove]

ok that one was a bit clever

[royal swan]

A fart sound boom is funnier than this

[arctic grove]

but its probably from a steam review so its probably not original

first time i saw it tho

[arctic grove]

just reading that made me laugh

[royal swan]

😂

[scenic tartan]

23 blocked messages I didn't read just more crying

[thorny orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-baby-lol-cracking-up-gif-14677835

[royal swan]

I knew it would get some of y'all

[tribal obsidian]

Level design and graphics are two different things

[thorny orchid]

I'll give you a B+ for effort tho Neo

[royal swan]

F for half assing

Chat being this dead waiting for a revive reminds me of watching 10m medics in bfv doing fuck all while I'm down.

[upbeat sand]

update when

[arctic grove]

wait but didnt 2042 kill teamwork and everyone worked together in V and previous titles?

[royal swan]

Not when I was playing it years ago

[arctic grove]

sike @ those guys who come in here

[hardy leaf]

i totally agree

some people accept they burned money, others are coping hard and playing it everyday

[arctic grove]

lol so enjoying the game means im coping hard

unless thats not what you meant

[dapper river]

Exactly, literally EVERYONE was a perfect flawless team in older battlefields who gave you revives and heals and ammo immediately but in 2042 medic's don't revive? Actually broken dogshit doodoo game

[arctic grove]

there was some sort of hivemind thing going on with those older games man, everyone was concerned about the success of them and 31 other strangers as a team

[hexed mango]

i mean i am legitimately enjoying the game. I do not think it is the best game ever made, but what I do believe is that it shouldnt be buried, burned, and trashed. It has its problems, every game does, it has its struggles, its future, its past, whatever it is that you wish to call it. by coping, one would assume that you imply a belief in failure, i do not believe that this is a failure, but merely just a step towards something that is subjective. some people like the direction of the game, some people do not. that is up to each individual to decide, not someone on discord, or reddit, or steam forums, to decide for you.

if some people accept they burned money, and some people cope, there is an alternative group of people that also understand this game not as a failure, not as a success, but defined by its ability to be at all enjoyable, enough so as to warrant playing it. I believe that I fit into that latter group, and maybe others aswell.

[foggy tundra]

2142 is the penultimate bf game

lets be honest, 85% of players who play medic, do not play because they can heal others, they do not play because they can revive others

they play because they can heal themselves

[hexed mango]

i mean thats possible, but i honestly encounter a larger amount of medics who do revive, among the ones that done

and i dont think you can say that medics not reviving = "broken dogshit doodoo game"
because that just doesnt correlate

[foggy tundra]

it doesnt no

thats just players abusing the heal mechanic

which if people were observant

[arctic grove]

Ehhh, no. People actually like the game, so it's money well spent. Just because you and like 500 million people have, doesn't mean they won't

[foggy tundra]

happens in every damn game

with a healer

[runic prism]

Yeah man nobody revives in bf2042

Only teammates in ur squad sometimes

[foggy tundra]

i main falck and i revive if im able to, which is 90% of the time

[runic prism]

In bf1 litteraly everybody revives or helps. Then you have bf2042 everyone plays it like cod

[runic prism]

Thats gooddd

[hexed mango]

saying everyone is just false, not 100% of people do any such thing

[foggy tundra]

every bf game is victim to that

[arctic grove]

yknow what they say

if you notice a lack of a role on your team its probably time to become that role

[foggy tundra]

like.... every...single...bf

[hexed mango]

(besides stuff like breathe idk)

[foggy tundra]

has a large percentage of its medic players not revive

[runic prism]

In my matches in breaktrough in bf 1 everyone revives

[foggy tundra]

its incorrect to say everyone

as everyone isnt just playing medic

[runic prism]

Not everyone but

80%👍

[arctic grove]

Only 2 people can revive out of the what? 10? specialists

[hexed mango]

lmao, and also i bet that there was a medic in your game that just didnt revive you, not to be mean, just cause they didnt see you or smth

[arctic grove]

ive had games where some guys did purely nothing but revive, some games where they didnt, as has happened to be in every battlefield ive played, thats how it is

[hexed mango]

it all just depends on the people you get

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah, the one's that run over my body didn't see me. The one's that I died infront of didn't see me.

[hexed mango]

ones*

[foggy tundra]

there are players like that

tunnel vision is commonplace

[arctic grove]

😡

[foggy tundra]

ive ran over fallen players but then i notice the revive symbol on the bottom left of my screen and im like

[runic prism]

I dont care what people say but in this battlefield people doesn’t revive you most of the time . In other battlefields its different

[foggy tundra]

ah shit

[arctic grove]

Well yeah. 1/4 classes could revive. Now it's 2/10

[hexed mango]

2/10 is 1/5, 1/5 < 1/4

[foggy tundra]

which is ironic you say that

[runic prism]

What do you mean?

[foggy tundra]

because uh

[arctic grove]

I don't care because of the math

[foggy tundra]

squad mates can revive eachother

annnd

most players play angel

[arctic grove]

Seriously? Y'all are getting angels

[runic prism]

Nah it’s actually the turret guy lmao

[foggy tundra]

angels right behind him

lets be honest

[arctic grove]

I get boris and his turrets

[foggy tundra]

i see far more angels than most other specs

[arctic grove]

I don't

[foggy tundra]

although imma be honest

in combat, falck is better for reviving

not angel

[runic prism]

I hate the turrets it’s the most irritating thing in a game. Everyone hated it but ye dice fucking. It’s like a bot thing

[foggy tundra]

your chances of living while being revived under fire are higher if falck revives you

[arctic grove]

As I was saying, you'd end up seeing more medics 1/4/V/etc.. around the map rather than medics in 2042. But we don't know the numbers of the most popular specialists

[hexed mango]

if there's 2/10 (1/5) specialists for probability, that means that out of the other 63 people , about 12-13 will be medics, or if you want to be precise, 59 people (-4 for squad) -> 11-12 people + the 4 people in your squad
= 15-16 people on your team that can revive you (if you have a full squad)
so the range is actually ~ 11-16 but yeah

taking the middle of that, 13.5 people on average will be able to revive

[arctic grove]

You end up with 11-16, but you gotta give up 2 of them because they are new players and don't revive, That leaves you with 9-14. Then you have the medics who just walk around and can't hit shit, so you give up 3. That leaves 6-11.

[hexed mango]

where are you getting that 2 from

[foggy tundra]

nah

2 are prob noobs

even if the medic cant hit shit

they can revive

so you can just place the 3 back in there

shooting is very different from reviving

[hexed mango]

you cant precisely know if they are a "noob" or not, cause you just cant know that

[foggy tundra]

its not like bf1

[arctic grove]

When you are out in the battlefield, you will encounter noobs. The noobs will probably not revive since they are new and are getting used to the game. The UI is so clunky, they won't notice. Plus they will probably be throwing a tantrum and their PC/Console will be up in flames because the game is shit.

[foggy tundra]

BF1 revive, you can fuck up with it

[hexed mango]

and if they also were a noob, they could see the symbol, be curious, and hit e...

[foggy tundra]

bfv and b2042

you cant fuck up a revive

unless you spam e

[arctic grove]

But you have to hold down E. So they'll press E, then run away

Or whatever it is

[foggy tundra]

its press E

[hexed mango]

by default its only a press

[foggy tundra]

you dont hold it down

[hexed mango]

you can change that though, like i did cause i like holding down

[foggy tundra]

i have it on press E but i always hold it down

[arctic grove]

Alright, still. They'll press E twice since they are new the game, and fuck up the revive. They will run away and die.

[foggy tundra]

a medic is more likely to die while reviving

than revive, quit revive midway and then run

[hexed mango]

ok but you cant know that

[arctic grove]

Oh I've seen it. Happens to me all the time

[hexed mango]

plus, who nowadays is brand new to the game...

[foggy tundra]

slothy, have you actually seen videos of them doing this exact action to you?

[arctic grove]

What exact action

[foggy tundra]

have you access to their room?

if you do thats creepy

[arctic grove]

No

[foggy tundra]

ew

on that note

i hope to god they add more shit to orbital

copious amounts of rocket debris would be pog

[hexed mango]

am i the only one that actually likes orbital 👀

[foggy tundra]

orbitals main issue is...

its literally just 4 buildings

and plains

and its too clean

[arctic grove]

As a matter of fact, I've come across multiple players who spammed E and caused me to die. What else are they doing? Throwing their computer around? No. They are noobs who don't know what they are doing. Back to my previous point, only 17% of people are capable of reviving per team, not including squad mates. Therefor, medics should be removed from BF and placed with aimbot specialists.

[foggy tundra]

thats a hot and spicy take

[hexed mango]

it has 7 buildings if you count rocket & south tower

wait no it has more

[foggy tundra]

i was being facetious with how empty it is

theres like 11 but

the placement is bad

and well

[hexed mango]

idk hourglass is empty, i dont think orbital is

[foggy tundra]

75% of the map is fields

[arctic grove]

It's just assets thrown into a map.

[foggy tundra]

^

its like they wanted to have a few FOBs on the map

[hexed mango]

i mean thats how map making works lol

[foggy tundra]

but then switched to a different scheme

and didnt change the map layout

aside the geography

from*

and honestly

[arctic grove]

The map designer either had the wrong schematics or just flat out didn't care.

[foggy tundra]

its prevalent throughout each map

you can tell that bf2042 was, as it was said before, originally a different game

with a different story

[arctic grove]

A BR right?

[foggy tundra]

i believeso

like specialists aside

[wide shore]

I’ve finally got the M5A3 T1. That marks the end of all the ARs. Can’t wait to never use the M5A3 again. I hated using it.

[foggy tundra]

the maps literally tell you everything

[hexed mango]

i love the m5 :(

[arctic grove]

That would've been a shitty BR

[foggy tundra]

im a vcar guy

bf as a BR would suck regardless

[arctic grove]

I prefer the MP9

[hexed mango]

firestorm moment

[foggy tundra]

look the vcar is an op gun

memetier op

[arctic grove]

Firestorm was a good idea, but terrible executed

[wide shore]

I know a lot of people love it. But I never really enjoyed my time using it. I always felt like it has insane damage drop off and doesn’t feel good for my playstyle.

[foggy tundra]

if hazard zone was more of like a TF1 multiplayer campaign, id be all about it

[hexed mango]

i mean what attatchments did you use

[wide shore]

I tried using it with close quarters ammo and short barrel. I tried using it single fire with heavy rounds. I mainly used it with the 40 round extended, Kobra grip and VR compensator.

[hexed mango]

interesting, cause ive only really had fun with it on the close range stuff, works well as an smg with that, idk

[foggy tundra]

vcar

[wide shore]

AK has great damage, AC42 tap fire is insane, and the SFAR is stupid accurate. I just feel like the M5 is the worst AR

[foggy tundra]

drum vcar, long barrel, long range scope

plus whatever grip

people get salty

and it really shows

[wide shore]

any time I was using the M5A3 with the SMG setup, I just wondered why I wasn’t using a MP9 or K30

[foggy tundra]

imagine getting a guy down to 5 hp, only to die cause said guy managed to dome you with a vcar?

i use drx1 or vcar on falck

[wide shore]

I’ve tried using the VCAR, but I have dogshit aim so

[hexed mango]

ima gvt type of guy myself....

although i never want to use it again after getting t1

[wide shore]

I don’t like any of the DMRs honestly. I feel like the AC in single fire is better than all of them. Lol

[foggy tundra]

no one expects the vcar

and suddenly youre swiss cheesed by 25 rounds of vcar

[wide shore]

I’ve been seeing an influx of people using it lately. But I just attributed it to people being bored of the other guns

[foggy tundra]

memes aside

VCAR is decent

its not bad, its stable af

and very very accurate

which tradesoff damage but you just slap a drum mag, long barrel

and its poggers

shortbarrel works good too

[wide shore]

I just don’t like that you can’t spam it

[foggy tundra]

its like slam firing a shotgun in bf1

except your slam firing your mouse

you can easily out damage the other 2 dmrs

and people dont realize

the vcar fires as fast as you can pull the trigger

and its still stable af when you do

[wide shore]

Really? I have trigger stoppers and I can’t remember it being as easy to spam as like, the AC

[foggy tundra]

you just rapid click the mouse

[scenic tartan]

When you get a good tank game it feels so good

[foggy tundra]

tanks are nice

[wide shore]

You can survive in a tank?

I long range sniped a tank yesterday with the M5. He was like 32-0 camping on a hill. Felt great

[tribal obsidian]

Coping so hard I went out of my way to buy the game after I played the trial

[upbeat sand]

with a m5

why

ohh the rocket launcher

[wide shore]

Yeah, you know. An M5 Recoilless

[upbeat sand]

my mistake

[wide shore]

[turbid marsh]

Hows the game now guys?

On pc

[arctic grove]

Dead

[hardy leaf]

oof that must hurt

[scenic tartan]

Why do people come here just to ask how the game is so they can say how bad it is?

[turbid marsh]

So i know if its worth buying it or not

Dingdong

[torpid shuttle]

Dead.
Turn to Anthem 2.042

[turbid marsh]

Ty

[scenic tartan]

Ok the game is pretty good and I played 7 full matches tonight

Now tell me why its bad I wont read the responses

[turbid marsh]

Is it fun?

[arctic grove]

It is. It has some optimization problems if you’re on PC, but it’s very stable on console, I’m on PS5. There isn’t much gun or specialist selection as of yet, but we’ll get plenty of both this summer with season 1. If you don’t mind the specialists, and can wait a month or two and a half for additional gun and specialist content, try to get it at a discount if you can

And yes. I’d be lying to you if I didn’t specify that depending on what region of the world you’re living in, and what Game-Mode you’re playing, you may find problems with getting full games

[torpid shuttle]

This game is ghost town for me.

[arctic grove]

What’s your region?

[torpid shuttle]

Asia

CoD Ghost?

👍

Gates of hell ostfront, Enlisted, Deep Rock Galactica

[arctic grove]

ghosts feels a bit like a fever dream but in a good way

[rich spear]

Is the game ok yet

[torpid shuttle]

I still wait for Battlebit remaster.

[torpid shuttle]

Never

[rich spear]

I'll be back in a few months

[limpid kindle]

has anyone else died because their heli spawned in the ground on Breakaway US side?

[torpid shuttle]

❤️

Nice

Nah.

Wrong. I like ww2 set. But my ssd still need more space.

[quiet shell]

Going back to BFV and seeing its weather effects makes me wonder where DICE went wrong. Because weather in BFV wasnt even a selling point and it looks leagues better

[bitter skiff]

Whats yr favorite version....? I am new to BF, but digging 3/4/2042

[foggy tundra]

bf2142 best bf

[bitter skiff]

Right, the one you cant play anymore

[foggy tundra]

you can playit still

theres still people who play it

[bitter skiff]

All of my favorite bands are only available on edison cylinder

[foggy tundra]

not sure where, the one you cant play anymore plays into this

as theres still fan run servers up

[bitter skiff]

hmmm

Howabout one thats a little more accessable?

[foggy tundra]

like what you mean?

[bitter skiff]

Im sorry, am I asking dumb questions or something?

Like, one that people are playing/has more than a couple of servers running.... VU is more populated no?

[foggy tundra]

so having a server with 6 friends to play with is unplayable? k

[bitter skiff]

Ok, sorry.

[cedar turtle]

Six friends is a lot these days

[surreal crystal]

Tats deep

[split oyster]

for real no one plays breakthrough?

[opal cedar]

no one does u dont get a full lobby in it

[foggy halo]

the morning experience
don't play in the morning if you don't want to wait
I'll rather play vanguard

[split oyster]

i dont own vanguard

[foggy halo]

there's a free trial for 3 days & a discount

[shy latch]

is it normal that Boris' turret can see you through smoke grenade?

[tiny imp]

Do you have crossplay on?

or off?

[arctic grove]

the fact i have to be on at a specific time to play some breakthrough on this is depressing

[chilly oak]

i dont

[lavish warren]

same

[cunning plume]

Everyone should have crossplay on

[arctic grove]

i have crossplay on

NA midwest

been sitting here for a few minutes

let me restart the game and try to lobby up again. that should fix it

[lavish warren]

maybe

[arctic grove]

all good now

thats weird, i guess its that matchmaking bug showing its face

Once you do that you should be good

[deft ravine]

I'm having a really hard time tryna fix a bug that I have in Battlefield 2042. Whenever I sprint it's clipping and stuttering?

[arctic magnet]

DICE when is the next bf

[shy latch]

for stuttering and stuff like that I guess a good help is to delete all the content of cache folder

[pseudo meteor]

This game is ass

[mossy badge]

how ?

[silk surge]

I love it when BC2 rush shows up in featured modes.

[uncut prairie]

I agree, yet I’ve never played it

[lament plank]

wow i sure LOVE how you can still get hit by jet AA when you pop flares as they lock you because they fly straight at you and ram you. but they dont die. wow what great game design.

[arctic magnet]

yes

[sinful ore]

should i wait for update yet?

[main mango]

Remember battlefield?

[tribal obsidian]

Yeah I played it last night

[lament plank]

jesus fucking christ. since launch i have had the same glitch. easily 15-20% of the time i use my drone, when i come out of it, i cant ADS. how in the utter sweet fuck has something so simple not even been looked at?

[edgy oriole]

ive only heard that with vehicles. this the first time ive seen someone talking about it happening with a drone. id put that on the EA forums.

[grizzled whale]

skill issue

just do a 180

[silk jasper]

idk it will probably be fixed in 3 months time

[arctic grove]

Where patch

April patch where

[compact sleet]

In April

[arctic grove]

ok.

[warped pulsar]

I think it's caused by having some grenade launcher as an under barrel.

[lament plank]

negative ive had it happen with snipers, smgs, and stingers

[soft swallow]

In first half of April

[arctic grove]

So this week?

😳

[soft swallow]

Well yes of course, otherwise we will kick Dice

They are bad bois

[arctic grove]

Yep

[thorn helm]

check me out...

[compact sleet]

Hopefully

[bright sedge]

Everybody in California should take a stroll to EA headquarters since they won’t communicate, we should go to them in mass numbers, and demand answers, peacefully of course.

Thought we’d at least have voip for early April like they said but now it’s as if they never did say that and it’s on to the map reworks etc and not a clue of when next update/patch is coming

[soft swallow]

They said in Early April... maybe it was an April Fools

[bright sedge]

haha for real!

They’re undoubtedly a bunch of trolls at EA and dice

That’s why we should all walk in there and be like April fools mf’ers!

[soft swallow]

Yes, in facts the real date for the new update it's for Early Cristhmas 2069

[edgy oriole]

[bright sedge]

hahaha lmao 2069

For real man

[compact sleet]

Best ap sniper?

[soft swallow]

I hope they keep the date because I want to start playing Battlefield 2042 seriously and not just to train myself for when it will be a full game

[bright sedge]

@soft swallow yeah I hear you, but the game is bugged and their patches fix things but break others so who knows man

[soft swallow]

seems like an endless loop, fixing one bug to create another one

[bright sedge]

But they almost never deliver on time, they always push back the dates and they’ve already started development on the new battlefield apparently, I don’t get it. They need a fat lawsuit because they made a ton of money for a triple A title that is flat out broken and a flop. False advertising to the fullest.

They haven’t taken a single (proper) attempt at rectifying this or addressing it, they’ve gone silent on the community that literally pays their bills.

[wide violet]

isnt it weird how all these old IPs are being ruined in modern times? BF and Halo had very awesome systems back in the day but then monetization got involved and now the games are shite

[bright sedge]

For real

[wide violet]

CoD is just Warzone now

[bright sedge]

Comedy and games are dead as well, too much woke PC culture.

“Once you go woke you go broke”

[knotty kite]

We just gotta wait another few years for the next bf disaster and pre order it like crazy cus of the trailers

[bright sedge]

I know right? I think this franchise is dead and no one will care or trust Dice after this.

Unless they actually put people to work that know what the game needs and listen to the community, it would seriously be a miracle at this point.

[knotty kite]

Sad to see that bringing a unfinished game out is allowed tho

[bright sedge]

I know right? They do have an obligation to the shareholders so EA gives them deadlines, but obviously they were out of touch with reality when they planned this, and now the customer pays for it instead of the shareholders.

[wide violet]

ive noticed it for awhile now, the norm for brand new game devs is that the community knows nothing and the devs can put anything together and the consumers will love it

[bright sedge]

Buying shares in a company has and always will be a gamble, buying a game from solid devs that have been doing this for about 20 years shouldn’t be. Especially when they’ve shown you the most epic trailer/gameplay footage way before release and take in millions of dollars in presales. That’s why they push for those pre-sales, they know the game is going to do crap post launch.

And then they take a vacation immediately after releasing the broken game. Like man you guys have no ethics at all and don’t deserve our money.

[warped pulsar]

than some sort of attachment is causing it

[bright sedge]

People paid over a hundred dollars for a game they can’t play

So anyone down to take our concerns straight to EA headquarters in California? Seeing as how there isn’t any other way to get through or get a proper response.

[edgy oriole]

have fun bro. i think youd have more luck with the people over on reddit. i think youll go far with going to california. keep it up. 👍

[bright sedge]

Bro I’m in cali not far at all so if everyone that’s relatively close rolled up it could easily be thousands and that might get their attention, but alas, I dream.

[edgy oriole]

you already got half the battle. good job i knew you had it in you!

[soft swallow]

The new moves are cool, but honestly I would have preferred a movement speed that came close to Battlefield 4, the fights in 2042 feel like Doom Eternal to me

[bright sedge]

@edgy oriole care to elaborate?

[edgy oriole]

nope 🙂

[bright sedge]

You trolly troll

[edgy oriole]

it does feel pretty light. (if thats the correct word.)

[bright sedge]

I would have preferred the game they marketed to us.

[soft swallow]

You go whit the car to the EA's building, you talk whit the EA director and ask when new update will be realesed

[edgy oriole]

nah i dont need to go to cali bc they said early april. so two time frames. early april. and if that doesnt happen itll be april in general.

[soft swallow]

They will respond by kicking your ass but you never know

[edgy oriole]

prolly tbh. i bet after what went down at youtube that those companies buffed their security for sure.

[bright sedge]

Dude if thousands of people were to show up outside of EA headquarters it’s going to make headlines, undoubtedly, and bring a lot more attention to this and maybe they might actually do something, just saying, I’m not far so it wouldn’t be hard at all for me, just like everyone relatively close.