battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

But the bullet drop is so much

[rapid moon]

I dont think its all that bad anymore but how the game is rn is what it shouldve been at launch

[copper fulcrum]

What're you running on your sniper rifle?

Also what sniper rifle are you running lol

[arctic grove]

Needs more content more guns and vehicles

[fallen yarrow]

There's like 2 snipers. Take a guess

[copper fulcrum]

Three and they're all quite different

[arctic grove]

50 cal sniper and the first ken you get

Battlefield 4 had so many guns

[copper fulcrum]

Four Snipers actually, I forgot about the NTW-50 since I don't snipe with it

[fallen yarrow]

Two snipers. NTW is not a sniper.

[rapid moon]

If you ask me i think theyre gonna drop support for this game after year 1 because the speed that theyre getting stuff out is alarmingly slow which tells me most of their manpower is working on something else

[copper fulcrum]

50. Cal doesn't have good drop

SWS-10 can have good drop if you run the long barrel

There's no real reason to run a compensator on the SWS-10 unless you're using the Close Combat rounds.

[arctic grove]

We just need more guns and vehicles

[rapid moon]

They would help but if the maps were any good i wouldnt have a problem just playing for fun

[fierce gull]

reduce the bullet drop for the NTW and keep the damage

[arctic grove]

Yeah the maps aren’t too great

[copper fulcrum]

I do also suggest you run Mackay when sniping because of his zoom movement speed

[vivid nacelle]

wtf, make it even more OP? If you hit a foot with it they're dead

[fierce gull]

you realize what kind of power I would hold if I switched to the different ammo type

[rapid moon]

Ur saying that the ntw is op?

[fierce gull]

exactly I would destroy every man in battlefield

[fallen yarrow]

NTW should one-shot vehicles. Nothing in the game is balanced....might as well go all-in with the memes

[copper fulcrum]

NTW's damage is already one shot, unless the enemy has armor on

[vivid nacelle]

NTW should be an anti vehicle sniper rifle,

[copper fulcrum]

It is.

[rapid moon]

It used to be before they made it useless againts vehicles

[fierce gull]

you can literally make a tank not move for a few seconds after 2 shots with the NTW

[tall tangle]

havent played BF since january, has their been any updates at all to improve gameplay/UI/etc?

[fallen yarrow]

No

[rapid moon]

Nah

[tall tangle]

Lmfao

[copper fulcrum]

Considering you can use a fucking Rocket Launcher with it and an EMP nade with it, it's in a good place.

[tall tangle]

pain

[vivid nacelle]

am playing breakthrough 65 - 6 v 7

[rain cedar]

they took out weekly missions.. so there's that. because of russians

[fallen yarrow]

@tall tangle have some realistic expectations. It's only been 4 months since launch. Check back in June. Maybe we'll get the scoreboard and voip by then

[rapid moon]

Theyre disabled for 2 weeks theyre not taken out

[fallen yarrow]

if they're not in the game, they're out

[fierce gull]

flex

[rain cedar]

this was a good practice against the russians. I dont see the need to disable it

[tall tangle]

hahahah yeah definitely not something the game should have had at launch

[arctic grove]

Voip will launch most likely in June

[rapid moon]

Im honestly sad for this game tho because it couldve been huge

[fierce gull]

You guys wonder why they removed the weekly challenge

[fallen yarrow]

By the time VoIP launches, there won't be any players to talk to

[arctic grove]

Facts. Lost all its potential due to poor choices

[rapid moon]

With cod being horrible this year it had every chance to be a hit

[rain cedar]

Putin told Dice

[arctic grove]

At least i can talk to bots

[fierce gull]

nah cuz they gotta get the attention

companies do this to make themselves look goody two shoes

[rain cedar]

Couldve changed US to Ukranians.

[fierce gull]

like activison

[vivid nacelle]

but then Halo

[arctic grove]

They got a portal game mode for that

[rapid moon]

Honestly i think corona was the reason for its faliure working from home slowed progress a lot and ea wouldnt let them push the release time back

[fallen yarrow]

Remember when they released a skin titled 'Hostile Takeover' on the anniversary of the US capitol insurrection? I think someone at DICE is doing it on purpose

[rapid moon]

Eh idk does that game still have big numbers even? It looked pretty stale on videos and stuff

[arctic grove]

Part of the reason yes. but consider that bad choices of taking out most of the "legacy features".

[prisma orchid]

Battlefield 2042 > any other

[rapid moon]

Yep totally agree with you there

[vivid nacelle]

im just kidding, BF and Halo are two different games to me. I dont even get why EA decides to compare the two

[prisma anvil]

da hell's going on over here now?

[fierce gull]

true
no other bf has the condor

[vivid nacelle]

yh, bf and Halo are both shooters sure

[arctic grove]

gaslighting

[prisma orchid]

invisible picture to me due to wifi connection

[rapid moon]

They needed something to blame for their embarrasing faliure

[fierce gull]

rip

[rapid moon]

Its a pic of a duck in a sombrero

[prisma anvil]

its a nice duck, ngl

[fierce gull]

they compared a dying game to their dying game

[prisma orchid]

now i can see it

no other battlefield or any game actually is as beautiful as 2042

[rapid moon]

Honestly theyre pretty similar in the fact that they got insane amounts of hype and died in a few months

[fierce gull]

Halo infinite is gonna get their season 2 in may

[prisma orchid]

super shiny beautiful futuristic looking city

[fallen yarrow]

Yes. If battlefield 2042 is the only game you've ever played

[prisma anvil]

when's the rest of halo out?

[rapid moon]

Even bf 1 looks better not to mention bfv

[prisma orchid]

bf1 looks dogwater

[rapid moon]

💀

[fierce gull]

bf1 doesn't have good rocks

[prisma orchid]

everything is broken down and smoking

[fallen yarrow]

BF2042 looks like muddy dogwater with algae

[rapid moon]

Yeah kinda happens when war is going on

[fallen yarrow]

Ah, in 2042 we're fight with weapons of mass construction

[prisma orchid]

i love the beautiful clean skyline citys

[rapid moon]

Its dumb that the cities are in perfect condition with a war going on

[prisma anvil]

i like to compare 2042 to craft's singles......both claim to be something else but look like glossy plastic

[fierce gull]

I mean if we following the lore

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah hourglass is pristine.

Untouched, even

[plush coyote]

the sandstorm has done more damage

[prisma orchid]

if a map is completely broken down its ass to look at

[fallen yarrow]

They have next level building materials

[rapid moon]

Fr the architects did an insane job

[prisma orchid]

its just not fun and u cant really show the graphical improvements of ether since everything is covered in thicc smoke

[fierce gull]

they gotta add more buildings to hourglass

put more buildings in the front

[prisma orchid]

LOOOK HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS MANNN

[rapid moon]

They gotta delete hourglass from the game

[fallen yarrow]

Indestructible buildings. They should have hired the same engineers to build the 3 copy-pasted houses on Hourglass sector D.

[fierce gull]

you wanna destroy skyscrapers and get 1 fps

[rapid moon]

I mean bf4 did it and it may have ruined the gameplay but it was cool as fuck

[fierce gull]

they could make scripted but that would look ugly

[plush coyote]

we could do it in bf4

[fierce gull]

one

plus optimization is better in bf4

[plush coyote]

better than none

[fierce gull]

I think if we got one rn we would crash like the launch in bf4 lol

[copper fulcrum]

Also gotta remember, old gen plays this game as well

Not to mention the fps drops lol

[prisma orchid]

man i just love their citys to tears mam makes me wish it was real

[rapid moon]

I still dont get why they dont just put the existing maps into the 64 player rotation

[fallen yarrow]

BFV handled destruction well. You could break many parts of houses and buildings, but there was just enough solid structure to still use as cover. Plus you could fortify the broken walls/windows with sandbags

[soft swallow]

Well when i destroy a skyscraper i rest to 144 fps, no problems whit that

[prisma anvil]

rather have overall better and more details in the destruction than one big eye catchy levolution.....we know how the big eye catchy thing for this one went

[vivid nacelle]

I think all options are possible now that they request player input, so possibly in the future

[soft swallow]

I fucking love that game, how people doesn't like it?

[plush coyote]

woah settle down 2042 couldnt hand that

[prisma anvil]

lots of valid reasons that have been talked to death...

[fallen yarrow]

Bad initial marketing and some some stupid management decisions. BFV gameplay-wise was great

[soft swallow]

What a time to be alive

[vivid nacelle]

I hate the slowgunplay in comparison to bf2042

[fallen yarrow]

I dont think gunplay is any slower than 2042

[fierce gull]

add futuristic reaper drone to 2042

[fallen yarrow]

They should add the UCAV and make the explosion as powerful as the V1 from BFV

[fierce gull]

that's a nuke

[prisma anvil]

or just add the v1 rocket thingy but mask it as a tungsten rod from space

[prisma orchid]

I rlly hate battlefield community for hating just for the sake of hating "ooohh its not like the old game" stop being so stuck in the frickin past mate and there is so many ppl making disgusting comments to the developers dming them on twitter telling them to * themselves wich is just so immature atleast in my opinion

[amber heath]

So this is where everyone is at, how are you all?

[fierce gull]

if they reduce Kaleidoscope cuz of the feedback imma quit

[prisma anvil]

hello lad

[amber heath]

Hey embark, how are you man?

[amber heath]

Yeah, 2042 is going to die.

[vivid nacelle]

Great! Just dont know what fps im gonna play atm.

[prisma anvil]

tired but relieved...i finished the big thing i was doing...for now

[amber heath]

BFV?

[amber heath]

Great to hear man, have a great one!

[prisma anvil]

how ya doing boyo?

[drifting cove]

wheres matchmaking here

[vivid nacelle]

Ill try again but i just cant get into it.

[prisma anvil]

gone, reduced to atoms

[fallen yarrow]

People are hating BF 2042 because it's a bad and buggy game. If game design was good, and people were having fun playing it...they wouldn't be hating it

[amber heath]

Me, great. I have been promoted at work and raised, so I'm fellin great!

[prisma anvil]

noice

[amber heath]

What do you mean?

Like the game won't load into a GAME or won't load overall?

[fallen yarrow]

DICE should have added the anti cheat to BFV and BF1. It's kinda wasted on 2042 when even the cheaters dont want to play 2042

[vivid nacelle]

Like i said before, its visually stunning, but the gunplay i cant get into

[amber heath]

Yeah, that's 100% true.

[prisma anvil]

yeah get that....V's an acquired taste

[amber heath]

I understand that, the game play is way diffrent to other BF games.

[sudden peak]

2042 better than bf4 bf2 bf1

[fallen yarrow]

Play assault with the stg-44 or stg1-5. They're similar to using the AK in 2042

[prisma anvil]

it takes a while of playing it to get into the hang of things

[vivid nacelle]

something like M4A1? :p thats my preferred weapon in 2042

[amber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/your-opinion-op-toss-throw-yeet-gif-15298228

[fallen yarrow]

stg1-5 would work similar. Use the specs for reduced recoil

[prisma anvil]

or just abuse the 97 round lewis 3x

[fallen yarrow]

1907SF is also good, but it's only 20 rounds. So you need to have good aim

[prisma anvil]

just whatever you do, dont become a zh-29 user

[vivid nacelle]

ill try out the zh 29 then :p but also the stg, ill see, launching V now

[fallen yarrow]

Half the console players in 2042 are SVK users lying prone across the map 2-shotting everyone

[prisma anvil]

no..bad

no zh......chad scouts only use bolt actions

[fallen yarrow]

@vivid nacelle actually forgot about the m2 carbine. That's a good automatic gun as well, similar to the m4a1

If you want burst fire, try the Breda

[prisma anvil]

inb4 he becomes a type 2a main

[fallen yarrow]

2a only useful on underground or maybe devastation. Unless you're the type of person to get 1 kill and die...and you need 50 bullets for that 1 kill

It has the same equivalent range as the shotguns

[prisma anvil]

type 2a works amazingly for that "dip in dip out medic".....

[vivid nacelle]

wow M2 is great 😮

[fallen yarrow]

thompson, suomi and zk are great medic guns too for close range

[prisma anvil]

grease gun

[fallen yarrow]

M3 grease is great for flanking

[prisma anvil]

yep

[fallen yarrow]

Damn, BFV had so many fun and useful guns...

[thorn helm]

I cant wait for glow in the dark paint jobs matte?

[prisma anvil]

dude, i never knew how good the fg42 was till like 3 months ago

[fallen yarrow]

It's a great gun. Was pretty bad during the ttk debacle. But it's in a decent spot now

[prisma anvil]

oh yeah]

[fallen yarrow]

I prefer the BAR though. Just like the feel of it more. And I usually play the big maps, so the slow fire mode helps

[prisma anvil]

ngl i like the bren..

its probably most second most used support weapon by now

[fallen yarrow]

I never liked bren and madsen. The magazine took up too much screen space

I tried using them multiple times, but never enjoyed them

[prisma anvil]

understandable..

i never really played support much....only played support when i wanted to fuck with some tanks....or when panzerstorm came up

[fallen yarrow]

Lunge mine is so much fun

[prisma anvil]

it is..

[fallen yarrow]

Damn, I actually have 100 hrs played with the BAR

[fallen yarrow]

specially if you're playing with a friend

[prisma anvil]

119 hrs on the gweher 95...lmao

i didnt even play V much

[fallen yarrow]

I'm a Kar-98k user. Loved that sniper

[prisma anvil]

m95 just did more damage

fit my playstyle better

[fallen yarrow]

Yes, but all were 1shot headshots. And I had good aim with the Kar, it was easier to hit long distance headshots because of the higher velocity and lower drag

[prisma anvil]

m95 and mk vi.....the good ol 1-2 punch

[prisma orchid]

just bought bf1 lets see what all the talk is about of these 2016 graphics

[tame cobalt]

based neconda

[arctic grove]

[prisma anvil]

i never really did long range, wasnt my cup of tea....plus idk,,kar just feels heavy...like....a bit sluggish...dont get me wrong, i love nearly all the bolt actions, just m95 is and will be my bae

[tame cobalt]

[prisma anvil]

m95 and lee...god the lee up close was satisfying

[fallen yarrow]

Yup, as long as you pick a rifle that you like and stick with it...eventually you get the hang of the drop/velocity and can hit sick shots with it

I've always picked guns that I liked the feel of.

[prisma anvil]

thing is, i'm shit at tracking, but great at flicks.....one of the reasons i like bolt actions so much.....

its the biggest reason why i never got along with the self loaders

[fallen yarrow]

I usually play assault classes with ARs, but I've always had one main sniper rifle that I was good at in all the previous battlefields (BF3: M98B, BF4: SRR-61, BFV: Kar98k)

In 2042, I liked the DXR

[prisma anvil]

idk, sniping is just what i like to do....its fun, satisfying....one of the reasons why i dislike 2042...

the sniping in 2042, just felt off in my time

[rapid moon]

Honestly i think this is the most balanced sniping weve ever had

[prisma anvil]

V's the best sniping we had

[fallen yarrow]

Interesting, sniping was one of the few things that felt okay to me in 2042

[rapid moon]

Best doesnt equal most balanced

[fallen yarrow]

V's sniping was great, 2042 feels close enough as well. But there's only 2 snipers in 2042......

[prisma anvil]

i do mean in terms of balance as well...

[fallen yarrow]

What was not balanced about V's sniping?

[prisma anvil]

if i take balance out, 1 had the best sniping

[rapid moon]

It felt pretty strong to me

[prisma anvil]

only if you hit heads

[thorn helm]

ZULA

[fallen yarrow]

If you're good at landing headshots, it's strong

Which is how it should be imo

[rapid moon]

I mean thats been true every single game except maybe bf1

[fallen yarrow]

Rather not have sweetspot mechanics and 1 shot bodyshot rifles (like the AT rifles)

[rapid moon]

Do i know you?

[prisma anvil]

they gave you certain advantages as well, larger head hitboxes, bullets had lower drop

[prisma anvil]

oh, no no, no more sweetspot please

[rapid moon]

Youre exactly right i just feel that the bullets velocity was really quick and made landing headshots at range a bit too easy

[prisma anvil]

again zuls, pick up a lee enfield, body shot someone, you do 60 damage, by the time you rechamber he'll melt you with his full auto

[fallen yarrow]

I think only the Kar98 and Krag had high bullet velocity with low drag. But they had slow reload and low "clip" size

[raven heron]

hey folks have you ever encountered any bugs when using scar, such as a black square in front of you and cant right-click to aim

[prisma anvil]

weapon....

gun

bruh you good?

[raven heron]

and who can tell me the difference between the third shooter rifle and pistol

[fallen yarrow]

@rapid moon also, DXR from 2042 has higher velocity than any of the BFV snipers.

[fallen yarrow]

Yes, being unable to ADS was a frequent occurrence when I used to play 2042

[rapid moon]

Interesting i guess i was wrong maybe it just felt that way maybe cuz of the usually shorter engagement distance

[frigid iris]

day two of saying 128 bt can not be gotten rid of

[arctic grove]

@graceful island thoughts on bf2042

[raven heron]

[prisma anvil]

yeah...a lot of those things they did for the Sniping in V was to balance out the low ttk, faster and more erratic player movements, lower ammo etc

[fallen yarrow]

@rapid moon https://sym.gg/index.html?game=bf2042&page=charts ; https://sym.gg/?game=bfv&page=charts for your reference

[arctic grove]

I wanted to like this game so much

[fallen yarrow]

We all did

[thorn helm]

can dice copy and paste Fallout 4 velocity mods XD

[rapid moon]

Oh its okay i believe you

[arctic grove]

Hate how they spat in our face with this discrace

Never have I been more disappointed

[prisma anvil]

oh...i just remembered another reason why i didnt enjoy the sniping in 2042, its cuz i was going up against mnk's with a controller...cuz the crossplay system forced me into mixed lobbies

[rapid moon]

Honestly for the first week i was having loads of fun

[fallen yarrow]

BF4 launch was more disappointing for me. But that's because I had high expectations after BF3 compared to before 2042 where I had extremely low expectations

[arctic grove]

The maps seem too big

[fallen yarrow]

That would explain it

[raven heron]

I hope I'm the last one to know the news about their decision to delay the provide of the scoreboard

[prisma anvil]

i'm post bf4, so 2042 has been my biggest disappointment.....

even worse than cyberpunk i think

[arctic grove]

Way worse

[thorn helm]

what if they add BF3 Close Quarantine maps

[rapid moon]

I feel your pain i played a sniper only portal mode a couple of days ago and got absolutely wrecked

[sage ingot]

Honestly same, I was at bf4 launch and it was a wreckfest, this was way smoother

[fallen yarrow]

The sad part is that PC players cant find any matches if they disable crossplay... at least in NA. This was back in December, so probably worse now

[raven heron]

Because cyberpunk has been updating and optimizing at a speed visible to the naked eye (although sometimes the update is stupid), but bf2042

[prisma anvil]

i gave it my fair shot.....near about 40 hours of only sniping on mixed asian lobbies (which are extra sweaty)...

[fallen yarrow]

2042 launch was pretty bad too, it's just that I was already expecting it to be unplayable. I just got the EA sub to try it out instead of paying full price

[prisma anvil]

not to mention the game near instantly died here after launch...so i had to play conquest which was just boring for me

[arctic grove]

I’m going to be honest I’ve never really played battlefield. my first battlefield was V and i enjoyed it very much even with the historical inaccuracys but this game (if it was good) would have made me a hardcore fan of the franchise

[sullen basin]

I switched my weapon attachments using the quick mod system just now and then suddenly I was holding nothing but my hands looked like they were holding a gun. I redeployed and the bug FOLLOWED me

[arctic grove]

Which failed in every way

[rapid moon]

To be honest ive still never had an issue at finding a game (eu)

[sage ingot]

Also I feel like people is cherrypicking when it fits them, because CP2077 came out 2 years ago, we havent had this game for 6 motnhs yet, and also comparing it to BF4, V and 1, when those games were both bad at launch in different measures and have been fixed and updated with tons of dlc content

[prisma anvil]

trust me m8, this game released how it shouldve, you'd have seen how bad V was in comparison

[sage ingot]

Oh, I refunded V

[fallen yarrow]

It's still fair to say 2042 sucks, because that's a fact. If after 2 decades of launching battlefield games...they still fuck up on launch, it's on DICE

[sage ingot]

Yeah, but is like 1/4 of how bad they make it to be, and most people hating is just NPC behaviour, just repeating opinions of a youtuber or streamer

[arctic grove]

That’s just it I shouldn’t have to wait a year to have fun with a game either make it right or I won’t play your game

[fallen yarrow]

I did the smart thing and didn't get BFV at launch, got it a few months later and had a lot of fun until I got overwhelmed with cheaters

[fallen yarrow]

I think on a good day, without any bugs...2042 is like a 4/10.

[uncut notch]

Shut up you will be back playing 2042 when it gets better

[arctic grove]

Even if you look past the glitches the game underneath still seems bad

[prisma anvil]

na and eu dont really face this......or even if they do its not really that bad, maybe you dont get to play a mode for a day or two.......i'm talking about i've only been able to play conquest 128 since the launch till like mid december......everything else was DOA...hell crossplay off, the game was DOA at launch, the entire game....i dont even wanna imagine how bad it is now

[arctic grove]

I definitely won’t

[sage ingot]

Interesting, for me is a solid 7.5/10, feels like the experiences I had IRL but you know, without dying for real and stuff

[torpid meadow]

have they fixed it yet?

[arctic grove]

No

[fallen yarrow]

I tried to have fun, but the constant loadout resets, settings resets, being unable to aim down sight, etc. were just too much

[torpid meadow]

£80 down the drain

[arctic grove]

The game doesn’t even have a scoreboard

[prisma anvil]

personally i dont think 2042's gonna become anything great.....it'll just reach the same podium as V, or a little below V in the end....thats my thoughts atleast

[raven heron]

In fact, when I hear the theme song of 2042, I should realize that pre ordering the advanced version of 2042 is my most wrong decision in 2021

[uncut notch]

It’s 8 months 2042 will have 10k concurrent players on steam

[arctic grove]

I’m so sorry

Snipers only was fun. Sure gun mechanics sucks but it was something different.

[prisma anvil]

theyve just wasted too much time and pissed off too many people...

[sage ingot]

I heard that, a friend had to refund for that reason, but that I cannot comment on, I literally experienced only one bug, which is being unable to be revived due to corpse being stuck in a wall

[raven heron]

It felt like throwing me into a Soviet sawmill

[arctic grove]

Why tf should I have to wait 8 MONTHS to plays a game that should be finished by launch that logic is so fucking stupid

Console bugs are not as bad or common as pc

[prisma anvil]

eh..consoles have their own issues

[fallen yarrow]

I agree, don't think DICE has the passion or skill to make it a good game. They need a lot of time considering the pace at which they've been releasing updates recently. EA/management is not going to cut support, because the game has bled so many players...they're not going to make any money from mtx. So little incentive in supporting the game beyond the commitment for 1 year of battlepasses

[arctic grove]

2042 is a slap in the face to everyone that payed 80 fucking dollars for this trash heap

[sage ingot]

I mean, talk for yourself, I have loads of fun playing almost daily

[arctic grove]

They canceled battle front for this shit

[fallen yarrow]

and BFV

[arctic grove]

I’m glad u do

[uncut notch]

Same conversation when bf5 released yet it has the most players out of every battlefield rn

[gleaming kettle]

Heard a new Battlefield is in the making lol

[silk surge]

I feel like DICE is taking feedback from angry circlejerkers, and I don't like it.

[prisma anvil]

idk about skill, ( i do question it at times but idk the first thing about game dev so i can only speculate) but yeah, they had no clue what they wanted 2042 to be

[sage ingot]

Like, if we talk about Dead at birth games, nothing beats Hardline, that lasted like... 6 months?

[prisma anvil]

same thing we saw with V to be fair too....(i meant a reply to my last comment)

[arctic grove]

Dice is so tonedeaf I can’t fucking believe a company can be so incompetent

[silk surge]

V lasted waay longer. In fact, V still has a pretty active playerbase.

[arctic grove]

2042 has the smallest gun sandbox too

[fallen yarrow]

Doubt hardlines death was worse than 2042 given the marketing hype/sales of 2042

[sage ingot]

Yeah, I am not happy at all about the proposed changes in the steam post, Kaleidoscope could use a lot of fixes, like G and F not being like two different servers at the same time, but what they propose is just... basically copypaste Aalang

[raven heron]

I just expect the EA's capitalists to decide to refund and return my money just like what they have done to the 《Anthem》

[gleaming kettle]

i like V honestly, but problem is its full of VPN botter/cheaters

[silk surge]

Hardline has what? 1-2 full servers per platform?

[rapid moon]

Thats mostly caused by the state of 2042

[prisma anvil]

that aint happening,

welcome to reality...get used to it

[silk surge]

V had a lot more players online on steam before 2042 got released.

[fallen yarrow]

BFV had plenty of servers on PC even before 2042

[gleaming kettle]

Feels like the down fall of a great game honestly

[prisma anvil]

just learn from this, and when the next bf or any game is anounced or shown, remain skeptical, dont preorder and wait for post launch reviews

[raven heron]

Please, Microsoft, do something to save BF, just like you tried to save cod

[silk surge]

Why should they refund you?

[fallen yarrow]

Never pre-order ANY game. Just not worth it

[sage ingot]

The thing that scares me the most is the Reduction in vehicles, I really think that 3 tanks in kaidoscope for 64 people per team and 7 zones is just too few, I either dont get to play in any vehicle during the match because the same dude keeps hogging it or I see one every 10 minutes and then never see it again

[arctic grove]

V’s problems were not glitches they were historical inaccuracies the gameplay was great while 2042 has one assination regardless of the position of the person being killed

[prisma anvil]

idk man, V was bad for about 3/4ths of its life....i remember many days where bf1 would have many more eu servers than V (on ps4)

[silk surge]

Ugggh stop with the historical inaccuracy

[frigid iris]

I got the ultimate. I took a fat L

[fiery shoal]

its not a problem because bfv was never claimed to be accurate

[raven heron]

Because the actual game and publicity are seriously dissatisfied, which is a kind of fraud I think

[arctic grove]

Never Pre-Order a game

[prisma anvil]

thats not how fraud works

[sage ingot]

Man, I gotta be honest, your names scares me, psycho vibes from someone that wants to play that thing to 3k tickets

[silk surge]

Why did everyone suddenly become concerned about historical accuracy when BFV got revealed? You know that 1942 literally had jetpacks?

[arctic grove]

Wtf do u mean that was literally the only complaint

[gleaming kettle]

I wouldn't worry about historical accuracy in a Arcade shooter game

[sage ingot]

Yeah no, I giggled, but that is not even remotedly close to what Fraud means

[radiant thunder]

I had to get the game for PS4 because PC version still didn't fix controller issues

[frigid iris]

yeah. I pre-ordered so many shit games this past year. Battlefield, Life is strange remastered, back 4 blood.

[arctic grove]

Do you know how fucking old that game is

[silk surge]

What does that have to do with anything?

[fiery shoal]

what does age have to do with that?

[frigid iris]

it did? never did on the Xbox version 😔

[sage ingot]

Dont wanna be that person, but life is strange is all on you, those games were awful since the first one, and the feeling thing was a dead giveaway

[raven heron]

You mean the promotional pictures of some goods are great, but the actual situation is bad, isn't it fraud?

[torpid meadow]

There's a difference between a shit game and one that isn't ready for release

[silk surge]

Secret weapons of WW2 DLC.

[arctic grove]

I have the lucky of almost don't have enough money to just pre-order a game like nothing

[frigid iris]

credit card debt

[prisma anvil]

you gotta realise, its shitty what happened, its shady, very bad for cutsomer-comapny relations....but legally....they havent done anything that can be held against them in a court of law......its still misleading as fuck tho....

[sage ingot]

From a legal standpoint, no, from a definition standpoint, neither, is just feelings

[torpid meadow]

they got greedy, shouldn't have hyped up the release date, and pushed it back until it was ready

[frigid iris]

I plan on being dead before I have to pay it off

[prisma anvil]

its basically, they said nothing and let us imagine what would, could and should be there

[arctic grove]

Battlefield didn’t have its stride down yet and personally I don’t give a shit about historical inaccuracy

[arctic grove]

You and the bots having fun…..🤡

[torpid meadow]

I bet there wasn't one dev in that team that thought it was ready for release

[arctic grove]

Let people enjoy things

[sage ingot]

I am on pc, so my matches, when too empty, are like 50v50, and it fills before we go into the 1/4

[frigid iris]

i only played them years after release, after they were patched. was never around for a release.

[raven heron]

(Shut up and take my money back.jpg)

[safe sable]

So they canceled the battle pass for the game? I may have mis read something so please correct me if I’m wrong.

[arctic grove]

On this moment 64vs64 match

[arctic grove]

No definitely not they don’t care about the consumer

[raven heron]

[fiery shoal]

its delayed to summer

[arctic grove]

They delayed till summer how funny is that 😅

[safe sable]

That’s what I thought. So not canceled like some people are saying

[silk surge]

It absolutely did. 1942 set the tone for the whole formula. Arcade shooter with realistic graphics but wacky mechanics. Besides, when did historical accuracy become relevant?

[fiery shoal]

people are dumb...

[arctic grove]

The mere fact that this dog shit game launched with no VOIP is pathetic

[prisma anvil]

no it aint

[sage ingot]

What do I have to give you to never hear your voice again, I am aware that this is just how it works out sometimes, please stop, I have nightmares and everything

[raven heron]

So do you have any idea why the weekly mission disappeared

[safe sable]

I mean. They didn’t take there time with the game. So hopefully they fix there shit with this summer update.

[fiery shoal]

werent you just muted the other day?

[arctic grove]

Battlefield one

Does anyone else think the operators are cringe

[safe sable]

That’s all I’ve been playing

[arctic grove]

THAT WAS SOMETHING RIGHT?

[arctic grove]

No sweetie….nice try tho. 😎

[frigid iris]

Russia v Ukraine. it's a Russian attack helicopter

[safe sable]

The worst!

Ong the quips they say…

[prisma anvil]

there's a difference between a drive towards and authenticity and historical accuracy...bf1 wasnt really historically accurate per se

[sage ingot]

What for, if everyone plays using discord and honestly, I think it would be a mess with the Operators voicelines like when enemies are down, reloading and all that, I never saw anyone talk on the mic in any BF, back in 4 we used the PS groups, and in V and 1, we used skype and discord

[silk surge]

And BF1 is historically accurate?

[raven heron]

I see, so I'll be back next week right?

[arctic grove]

Exactly and they cut a campaign to focus resources on multiplayer and I would like to know where tf did they go

[sage ingot]

50/50, I like the concept, but the endgame voicelines is just... no, stop, and they are very poorly balanced

[arctic grove]

Uh yeah very much so

[fallen yarrow]

They released a skin for the Russian helicopter titled 'Grim Reaper' the day that Russia invaded Ukraine

[safe sable]

Honestly bf1 nailed everything.

[frigid iris]

no, they're doing an update next week. it'll be back the following week

[safe sable]

They had an amazing campaign. And even better multiplayer

[arctic grove]

This game is supposed to be cross platform…VOIP would bring console players into the fold which would fill lobbies. Especially when you are trying to run 128 player matches. VOIP in a FPS is just basic.

[sage ingot]

This is release day all over again, didn't boris had a skin called Little Green Man which was how ukranian called separatists in donbass?

[arctic grove]

Gameplay was so satisfying in bf 1

[raven heron]

It's really jumping into the fire. I can understand

[safe sable]

It was amazing.

[fiery shoal]

bf1 has great atmosphere, but its no accurate.. i mean people turn into gods getting on a horse... not to mentino behemoths...

[fiery python]

(the entire world is fucking dying)
specialists: THATS IT? im ready for round 2

[ember nimbus]

That's kinda funny

[frigid iris]

I'm glad I got the Russian skin before they removed it

[sage ingot]

"I am just better than everyone"

[fiery python]

“that was something right?”

[arctic grove]

That’s more of a gameplay thing whereas bf V was gender and race

[sage ingot]

"You said you were gonna keep up!"

[safe sable]

The behemoths were actually pretty accurate. The armored train made sense. The airship made sense. The only one I couldn’t wrap my head around was the massive tank

[fallen yarrow]

I like the other one more...when they released 'Hostile takeover' on the anniversary of the insurrection at the capitol in the US

[prisma anvil]

bf1 isnt historicaly accurate.....but it damn well tried to make it authentic....one of the most fun and yet authentic attempt at the portrayal of ww1

[fiery shoal]

yea sweetspots make sense too...

[ember nimbus]

Lmao

[frigid iris]

Angel does it again

[sage ingot]

They have a long history of poorly timed releases like that

[ember nimbus]

So it would seem

[sage ingot]

Sometimes they all just line up for me

[raven heron]

[arctic grove]

Franchise is dead to me

[prisma anvil]

once again, ea/dice have a reputation of shooting themselves in the foot

[fiery shoal]

cool, why are you still here though?

[sage ingot]

Aight, cya in 6 months, everyone says the smae with every single game

[silk surge]

It was extremely immersive, it made you feel like you were in a war movie, but it was absolutely not historically accurate in the slightest.

[arctic grove]

To complain

[fiery shoal]

whats the point in that?

[radiant thunder]

is the single player campaign out in 6 months?

[ember nimbus]

It's probably the best WW1 game there is

[arctic grove]

It’s fun

[frigid iris]

"Don't be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes"

[arctic grove]

No

[fiery shoal]

thats concerning

[ember nimbus]

I don't think one is coming

[silk surge]

Pretty much the only WW1 game there is. At least the one of very few released in this decade.

[arctic grove]

Lol ok

[arctic grove]

Yeah! Angel does it again!

[sage ingot]

I hate that one with a passion, because for some reason, is the easiest one to trigger, I literally came out of a match where 3 angels got top spot and said that thing 3 times in a row

[frigid iris]

already said that one

[arctic grove]

It doesn't matter

[radiant thunder]

they said they might make one

[fallen yarrow]

I climbed Everest, and it's all been downhill from there......get it?

[ember nimbus]

"That's it? I'm ready for round two!" Or however it goes

[safe sable]

Doubt

[arctic grove]

I just like to see how the brain dead fans of battlefield can seriously defend this embarrassment

[raven heron]

(Ruthless ridicule)

[arctic grove]

I'm gonna steal every single beanie on the world

[ember nimbus]

Who said that again? Mackay?

[safe sable]

PREACH

[frigid iris]

would off myself if that happened to me

[fallen yarrow]

Yes, the resident cringelord

[prisma anvil]

they tried....you cant really be fully historically accurate, especially in a game like bf......look at verdun....more historically accurate....but, conventionally, less fun......almost as if the real life world war 1 wasnt a fun sunday morning walk in the park

[sage ingot]

I feel sad for being an Irish main, because I only got top spot like 3 times and I dont remember his lines, I only seen pak on top twice and Rao once, last night was the first time I saw him on top

[arctic grove]

It’s amazing how dice can just keep making shitty games and you idiots will be their just eating it up I take pity on all of you for you to believe this is how games should launch

[frigid iris]

after I tiered 1'd Carpet I've been playing faulk?

[fallen yarrow]

You can be on top with any specialist you like. Just spam proxy nades or use the soflam. 0 skill required

[ember nimbus]

Skill issue

[sage ingot]

Falck?

[frigid iris]

soflam gives no xp

[frigid iris]

close enough

[fallen yarrow]

Doesn't matter...there's no scoreboard.

[silk surge]

I agree, because being fully historically accurate with a WW1 game would mean that players would be sitting in trenches for months not being able to peak through no-mans land because the Germans would shoot your head off immediately. It would not be a fun experience.

[hazy ruin]

f15?

[raven heron]

I don't like to compare cod with BF, but the COD vanguard is updating normally, which makes me very upset

[frigid iris]

leveling up to unlock shit

[ember nimbus]

Ye

[prisma anvil]

pulls out casper drone, spots entire enemy team for 40 mins.....looks down on peasants smugly

[hazy ruin]

f14 better 😎

[fiery shoal]

its arguable that dice fucked up on bf4 launch (which they redeemed), and now 2042.. not really a "keep making shitty games" scenario

[frigid iris]

c4 drone

[fallen yarrow]

we're talking about been on the end of round screen for the voice lines

[ember nimbus]

Phoenix good

[sage ingot]

Man, real complain about this game, my real issue with 2042 is why no points for damaging a vehicle, you damage a tank to its brim, and then another mf takes a lucky shot to it and you dont even get the assitence, and what happened to assistence counts as Kill

[arctic grove]

Just because they can salvage a broken game doesn’t make it ok

[prisma anvil]

ya like your foot rotting off cuz of an infection?.....if not that, maybe you like shellshock?....maybe you like being half submerged in mud while bullets whizzed past your head?

[frigid iris]

you don't get anything for using the soflam though

no xp, no anything for soflaming

[arctic grove]

It’s unacceptable to launch a game like this

[frigid iris]

that's why no one uses it. no point to.

[ember nimbus]

The amount of times I've seen different variations of that statement here

[fallen yarrow]

Like I said...you get to be on the end of the round screen to hear your specialist's voice lines. That's all I'm talking about

[silk surge]

Honestly, that sounds a lot more preferable compared to that suppression stun in BF3.

[arctic grove]

DICE couldn’t get a damn scoreboard right on 2042. 5 months after launch, in update 3.3, they are literally only putting out a scoreboard. DICE is trash.

[prisma anvil]

nah nah nah

[fiery shoal]

this is relevant how? i just said dice fucked up with 2042...

[frigid iris]

you said use soflam. it gives you nothing for using it. so why would it put you on the screen.

[arctic grove]

Gaming is getting progressively worse because you shitheads sit here and suck them off for every release

[sage ingot]

No, that gives me ptsd, stop, same with that awful sound of bullets going near you in 4, is just a horrible thing, that is not how it sounds IRL

[ember nimbus]

Sounds like a skill issue to me

[prisma anvil]

if i had the choice ww1 is the one i'd never be a part of

[fiery shoal]

who is even defending 2042.. the only time i see it is ironically

[arctic grove]

Lmao

[fallen yarrow]

Because it counts as assists when spotted enemies die. Same as proxy nade. You'll get the most assists at the end of round even without killing a single enemy. You'll be on end of round screen

[arctic grove]

When DICE blames Halo…..you know they put out trash in 2042.

[fiery shoal]

not even what happened..

[arctic grove]

Infinite is good but far from a polished game

[sage ingot]

I wish they would change the endgame screen a bit, because it rewards cod-like behaviour more than actual battlefield playstyle

[arctic grove]

They literally said that

[ember nimbus]

Far cry 7 looking weird ngl

[frigid iris]

for me atleast it doesn't give and visual indicator. no "enemy spotted" or anything.

[hard plume]

Where?

[fallen yarrow]

Ya, that's because the UI and messages are dumb. You still get assists though.

[arctic grove]

Search it up

[fiery shoal]

they literally didnt.. we dont even have quotes for what happened, because all we got is a tom henderson "source".. tom henderson wasnt in the meeting, hes just reporting what he heard someone else say they heard... even what tom henderson said 'he heard' was that 2042 realizes they cant release bf games in the states they have before, because now you have games like halo coming out for free that are more polished

[prisma anvil]

yeah, 2042 really suffers with providing that and other kind of visual info to players

[frigid iris]

never would have known. that's why I never used it lol. never got anything on the screen for it, so figured it was useless.

[hard plume]

You’re making the claim, you have to provide the source

[arctic grove]

Yes they did….you should know. You’re a DICE dev in here trying to push back the current of anger.

[safe sable]

They did say that

[prisma anvil]

saus?

[fallen yarrow]

Just find a high ground camping spot, specially on breakthrough and spot the entire enemy team

[safe sable]

They said. “We did not anticipate the launch of halo infinite”

[uncut notch]

It’s a trend to hate on 2042

[ember nimbus]

The amount of times I've seen the blaming halo infinite crap here...

[sage ingot]

Called burden of proof, for short

[fallen yarrow]

DICE made it really easy

[arctic grove]

They DID say that….I have found the REDDIT Malinda!!!

[frigid iris]

I mean, I'll bring my old argument. Halo infinite did fuck up battlefield 2042 launch by coming out way early.

[glass swan]

The hate is too much but pretty much deserved

[arctic grove]

Their exact words were “we blame the failure in popularity due to the more polished title (halo infinite)”

[fiery shoal]

source?

[safe sable]

EXACTLY!

[ember nimbus]

Source

[fallen yarrow]

Halo didnt fuck 2042. 2042 fucked 2042.

[frigid iris]

yeah. it is still a fun game though. I love 128 bt.

[fiery shoal]

source?

[safe sable]

Exactly

[arctic grove]

💪🏼

[hard plume]

I didn’t think they would understand such a complex thing

[frigid iris]

halo releasing early though didn't help either.

[sage ingot]

I feel like they exagerate it a lot, specially when they cherrypick from other games, as if BF4 didnt had like 8 maps at launch and shit like that

[arctic grove]

Watch an act man video he’s credible

[ember nimbus]

You can claim shit like that all you want. Provide the source or your claim will be disregarded.

[fiery shoal]

you cant provide the link to the video?

[uncut notch]

Halo is doing bad right now they didn’t do anything to 2042

[glass swan]

Yeah 128 is pretty cool just wish the maps had a better design to them so it could flow better and more content

[arctic grove]

Sure thing let me get it

[arctic grove]

Hold please…….

[uncut notch]

Halo is even suffering cause of how bad it is

[wide violet]

👀

[hard plume]

Oh god, not that clown

[fiery shoal]

who? act man?

[uncut notch]

I’d rather play 2042 then halo shitfinite

[hard plume]

Yes

[fallen yarrow]

If 2042 was better than Halo, players would have stuck with 2042. The core playerbases for 2042, COD and Halo are different...because they like different things. 90% of the players that played 2042 didn't like 2042

[prisma anvil]

i'd rather play neither

[arctic grove]

https://youtu.be/1D0Bgr72uA8

[glass swan]

I rather play gmod

[sage ingot]

I mean, COD and halo fanbase is the same, specially now in 2022

[safe sable]

I’d rather play bf1

[hard plume]

If rather play your face

[hard plume]

Bf1 sucks

[prisma anvil]

no balls....do it

[uncut notch]

I’m over bf1

[frigid iris]

at the start though. halo launch overwhelmed 2042 launch.

[prisma anvil]

[arctic grove]

Bouta come kill u in real life

[fiery shoal]

cool, gotta watch a 20 minute video to find a single quote that this guy supposedly said

[sage ingot]

Also, could we not forget that BF4 was set in 2020 and it depicted a weird shit conflict like the one we have right now? it only missed because covid

[hard plume]

Yeah, most games have that effect

[safe sable]

What console you play on?

[frigid iris]

yeah understandable. I hate the concept they provided to redo it though.

[arctic grove]

Well u could just fucking google it dumbass

[hard plume]

Dew it

[arctic grove]

Series x

[sage ingot]

Same, kaleidoscope is 5/10, and the concpet makes it 2/10

[arctic grove]

Lmao

[prisma anvil]

dang....not a ps homie

[safe sable]

Damn I was gonna say add me. Need more people to play battlefield 1 with

[sage ingot]

Another Aalang with that shitty choker of B1 and 2

[fiery shoal]

or you can learn to provide sources for shit you claim...

[uncut notch]

If you play Xbox you lose the argument immediately

[ember nimbus]

Google does a poor job providing context
And sometimes it's just flat-out wrong

[hard plume]

It really is the worse of the maps

[fallen yarrow]

It's been confirmed that DICE dictates global geopolitics. That's why everyone is complaining about fixing BF 2042. So that in the actual year 2042, we have more weapons and content and a better standard of living

[wide violet]

he just quotes Hendersons article, if you were actually curious

[frigid iris]

exactly. they already ruined hourglass

[sage ingot]

Mate, in the game half of the world is underwater, what you mean better standard of living

[arctic grove]

Boy it’s ur homework if you want to google it go ahead if u don’t idc

[arctic grove]

There’s images

[fiery shoal]

so its my job to verify your claims? thats ass backwards...

[hard plume]

You have the burden of proof tho

[arctic grove]

Two way street buddy

[uncut notch]

Master chief is a troll

[ember nimbus]

And standardized global electronic communication just doesn't exist
And internet is down for most of the world
And there's a power crisis
And refugee crisis
Should I go on?

[fallen yarrow]

I dont know about you...I'd live in Kaleidoscope. In one of the fancy buildings with a well maintained lawn

[fiery shoal]

idk, sounds like youre just copping out

[wide violet]

[sage ingot]

Yeah, it was mid and it became awful, I feel like they should give more attention to C, because is the chokehold between the city and the stadium, instead of all the action being on the A-C-D

[arctic grove]

Just watch the vid

[sage ingot]

2042 Kaleidoscope is not very different from IRL songdo, so, you can

[hard plume]

What they do to hourglass?

[arctic grove]

I have u a credible source if u don’t want to do the research then that’s on u

[fallen yarrow]

They released it

[prisma anvil]

[sage ingot]

Moved objectives from from roof to ground

[safe sable]

No point. These people are on there knees for this game. They won’t listen to anything bad about it

[hard plume]

Oh yeah that was dumb

[sage ingot]

Roofifghting in hourglass, specially in the sandstorm was great

[frigid iris]

The roof could be taken easily but people complained like a baby

[fiery shoal]

if you consider that credible

[sage ingot]

Now there is no point to go there unless camping

[arctic grove]

They’ll suck dices dick no matter what

[safe sable]

Facts.

[uncut notch]

Haters can’t stand when people enjoy 2042

[frigid iris]

same people who complained then, complain now that 128 BT is overwhelming. bro go play 64

[sage ingot]

I can do yours if you are jelly tho

[ember nimbus]

Is it uh... Not allowed here to insult people who enjoy the game?

[arctic grove]

Well he’s always honest and shows evidence so yeah he’s credible

[ember nimbus]

This community gives more complaints then a fucking call center I swear

[edgy oriole]

Nyphon has said he doesnt like the game but he sucks dice off? im so confused.

[hard plume]

Remember when people used to adapt, i dont but i heard it was a thing

[prisma anvil]

as an expert on call centers, call centers get more complaints

[arctic grove]

You can enjoy the game but u can’t deny it’s glitchy and broken

[sullen basin]

HA! I'm stealing that

[frigid iris]

exactly

[fiery shoal]

ive had the game uninstalled for a month now too

[arctic grove]

Lmfao

[fallen yarrow]

I think most people (except trolls) don't have a problem with people who enjoy 2042. They have a problem if you're defending broken aspects of the game when the majority are asking for fixes

[sage ingot]

I wonder how this people thinks war is like, because as someone who was there, this feels just like it felt back there, but oyu know, less dying and shit

[arctic grove]

Exactly

[ember nimbus]

I mean it got so bad that they implemented new rules here that condemn people who insult people who enjoy the game
So I'm not so sure about that

[silk surge]

Wow, how are you supposed to unlock santa boris if you haven't even installed the game?

[sage ingot]

If someone enjoys angel they are either baiting, or psychos

[uncut notch]

What like being historically inaccurate?

[arctic grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodium2042/comments/suqgc4/l_miele_ea_coo_halo_infinite_primary_cause_poor/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[hard plume]

Sad they didnt keep that in

[fiery shoal]

i MIGHT install to get that skin just to annoy people in the future

[fallen yarrow]

Like being able to aim down sight with a gun in a First Person Shooter. Or not having to re-do your loadouts every day.

[sage ingot]

Also, real question about the game, why they changed all the skin names from their release names to the ones they have now

[prisma anvil]

good its out

[arctic grove]

@fiery shoal here’s ur proof buddy

[silk surge]

Ho-Ho you get led for christmas

[hard plume]

Hahaha

[prisma anvil]

not the time or place for that kinda skin

[arctic grove]

Hoho! A Robot Dog is going to kill you! Hoho!

[fiery shoal]

nothing there reads to the claims you have made...

[hard plume]

That should’ve been his end game line

[silk surge]

You need to do it with a russian accent though

[frigid iris]

yeah I know. Reminds me of my time overseas. Except lot less hectic and scary.

[arctic grove]

Spoken like a DICE dev in here in denial

[fiery shoal]

i sourced this when i mentioned this is tom henderson playing telephone with multiple people as his "source"

[arctic grove]

I want to use russian texts but i don't want to die

[silk surge]

I understand.

[sage ingot]

Instead of shitting the maps that are still good (please dont fuck renewal or ill go stabby stabby) they should fix the turret allseing eye and aimbot that snipes you from like 25m

[frigid iris]

don't fuck 128BT or I'll go stabby stabby

[sullen basin]

Hear hear!

[hard plume]

Everyone wants to be the “ hero”, which is harder to do with more eyes on you

[prisma anvil]

they might fuck 128BT

[arctic grove]

I remember that renewal has one of the worst spawn sites that i ever see in a shooter

[hard plume]

Imma be piss

[wide violet]

128 bt is trash, prove me wrong

[frigid iris]

me as well

[arctic grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/stv0vq/ea_chief_studio_officer_says_halo_infinite_caused/

[prisma anvil]

[sage ingot]

What you mean, easy kills, I love when they mindlessly run towards me so I mow them down with the AK

[prisma anvil]

128BT, good concept, poor execution,

[frigid iris]

It's fun though

[sage ingot]

Indeed, the chaos is enjoyable

[hard plume]

Lol i love them too but the runners, they’re not used to “holding back a bit”

[frigid iris]

it's not perfect, but it's fun. Just don't treat it like COD and run in guns blazing. Use tactics.

[fiery shoal]

aka "we released a rough bf game like usual, normally its fine but halo came out for free and more polished and we realize we cant release rough games anymore"

[ember nimbus]

When you don't get shot in the back upon spawning

[prisma anvil]

its pure chaos, i''l give it that..

[sullen basin]

Holy shit I'm trapped guys! The only map coming up on ps4 servers for breakthrough and con quest is kaleidoscope! And there are no portal servers open with more than 10 players!

[sage ingot]

They have to go back to cod, we have them on every release, by Y1 they are all out of here

[arctic grove]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/in.ign.com/battlefield-2021/170474/news/ea-reportedly-blames-halo-infinite-for-battlefield-2042s-massive-failure%3Famp%3D1

[frigid iris]

Then you should have used tactics and actually cleared the enemies from behind you before moving up. Or go back to kill them. Welcome to war.

[arctic grove]

That’s ign

[frigid iris]

easiest way to win BT is to flank.

[wide violet]

Nyphon out here arguing with kids that ate glue

[ember nimbus]

You're trusting game journalists? You really must be desperate

[fiery shoal]

literally says "reportedly"...

[sage ingot]

Have you tried not mindlessly running like a chicken, securing an entry point, holding corners and using suppresion fire before moving covers?

[uncut notch]

🤣

[frigid iris]

IGN is literally worse than buzzfeed

[fiery shoal]

i realize i shouldnt, but i gotta try for some reason...

[ember nimbus]

Uh, yeah
I do do that
None of my teammates do
So we get flanked

[arctic grove]

Deer god

[sage ingot]

Even tho I hate how it gets sometimes, Aalang B, D and C are the best for that feel, is just a 360 all around chaos

[fiery shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/magical-deer-wings-antlers-deer-gif-15669987

[wide violet]

I get it, you want them to use logic but these kids dont know how to read lol

[prisma anvil]

again, the maps are shit, infantry vehicle balance is outta wack, speicialists overcomplicate things....too many outside elements that affect 128 BT

[arctic grove]

Ahaha

[slow terrace]

Are they considering taking 128 players out of Breakthrough? is this a joke?

[frigid iris]

flanking in the snow map is fun as fuck

[ember nimbus]

Please no

[frigid iris]

yes, and it's not a joke

[sage ingot]

I dont think specialist make anything complicated, is just that every lobby is filled with fucking angel and sundance, as if there were no other characters

[wide violet]

yup, its in the recent communication

[prisma anvil]

wonder why that is

[frigid iris]

look at the blog post

[sage ingot]

And angel and sundance are by far the most useless operators of the games

[arctic grove]

Feels bad I wanted to like this franchise

[fiery shoal]

they are fun

[wide violet]

angel is broken, i feel like if you dont play him youre playing the game wrong

[prisma anvil]

again, mackay and sundance are selfish by nature

theyre made to be killing machines...thats it...

[uncut notch]

Mackay and paik are fun

[glass swan]

Forreal after 2-3 games of bt I’m off

[fallen yarrow]

Angel and Sundance are overpowered compared to the other specialists

[sage ingot]

irish is broken, the cover stops bullets for hours and the trophy system makes you unhittable if you cover properly, in hourglass A sector that shit is how you solo it, and fucking dozer is even more broken but nobody plays him

[arctic grove]

I’m just gonna play bf 1 halo 3 only good games

[wide violet]

have fun, delete discord on your way out

[silk surge]

2-3 games accounts for like 2 hours of gameplay though.

[arctic grove]

Free Plates! Free Plates for Everyone!

[ember nimbus]

Lmao

[sage ingot]

I did a game the other day, my squad leader was paik, me maining irish, and we got amazing numbers, like 5 captures and 15 defenses

[edgy oriole]

shhhhhh dont let people know irish is best operator dude

[arctic grove]

Sure buddy whatever u say

[glass swan]

I’d like to play for more longer but gets pretty meh after a few games

[spark radish]

I dont understand how yall can argue and agree at the same time lol

[prisma anvil]

128 BT has promise, more than 128 conquest imo, but this implementation aint it....i cant give every reason as to why that is, but there are a decent chunk of em and idk if they'll be able to improve the more egregious of em and make 128BT worthwhile

[wide violet]

I thought you were leaving?

[ember nimbus]

This community is wack

[wide violet]

homie this place is a cesspool

[arctic grove]

Fr lmao

[ember nimbus]

You included

[prisma anvil]

its fun tho

[uncut notch]

😂😂😂

[sage ingot]

Wanna know the funny thing? every single other irish I met, like me, is either sporting the Old guard tag or the peorder uniform, great minds think alike

[arctic grove]

I’m a troll I just complain

[glass swan]

Yeah 128 bt has potential but just all the bad aspects outweigh the good, hopeful this summer we see some improvement

[wide violet]

we know

[arctic grove]

Yet u still stupid enough to respond to it

[spark radish]

this made me die🤣

[wide violet]

I thought you were leaving?

[plush coyote]

good

[prisma anvil]

lets see, i aint getting 2042, but atleast i'll stick around to see whether they pull it out of the burning building, or enter the burning building themselves, close the door and burn down with it

[ember nimbus]

This community makes the GTA community look calm and civil

[arctic grove]

I never said I was leaving

[sage ingot]

What is the point in playing angel if you cant look sideways to see that half your team is dead and that you actually have an amazing revival bonus and it also gives a ton of points

[spark radish]

wait you want me dead? lol I didnt even do anything

[plush coyote]

haha nah 🙂

[sage ingot]

For real, is like the requirement to main Angel is to play cod on a daily and forget that you have to cooperate to win

[arctic grove]

U just got caught in the crossfire

[arctic grove]

He has the better lines that every other specialist

[spark radish]

I like yall, I swear I just joined this server 10 min ago and already chaos😂

[sage ingot]

Probably because if he was shit, I was gonna go stabby stabby, loved him in bf4

[glass swan]

I already own 2042 could’ve return it but maybe it’ll be decent by the end of the year for now I’ll just be waiting for other game like ww3, tiny tina, mw2 etc

[ember nimbus]

They're much less... Egregious? Then most of the others?

[sage ingot]

Didnt ww3 died like twice already? are they bringing it back?

[arctic grove]

Has a Angel main, i can tell that my purpose is just die for giving plates to every single living guy

@wide violet bruh just took massive L

[edgy oriole]

I literally know zero lines that specialist say. so i cant comment

[prisma anvil]

once my exams end, elden and the 15 playthroughs i'm gonna do (atleast) should tide me over to july-august ish i think

[plush coyote]

its a good place for a laugh all you have to write is ... "is the game good yet" and all hell breaks loose

[arctic grove]

My man survived a entire fall and not even a scratch

[glass swan]

Right now the closed beta or whatever it is, is doing fine but i rather wait till they fix the audio it’s the only thing holding it back, good game doe still needs polishing

[sage ingot]

His intro lines are the most decent ones, like, he cares baout his squad and he gives actual good adivce

[spark radish]

soooo is it?😂

[plush coyote]

dont be silly of course it isnt

[sage ingot]

Because he strong as fuck, irish singlehandlely carried the BF4 campaing

[arctic grove]

Love how easy this fanbase is to trigger

[arctic grove]

Don't be sad, this is how it works out sometimes
That was something! Right?
Yeah! Angel does it again!
||my lines please end my pain||

[arctic grove]

Meanwhile Dima...

[arctic grove]

dies on the first mission in which it appears

[sage ingot]

The pilot from 3 died within 20 minutes

[spark radish]

I am hella silly, I actually really like the game even though I agree that there is a lot wrong with it. I do however think its getting more hate then it deserves

[fallen yarrow]

Peter Müller > Irish

[arctic grove]

Now what is a Battlefield 3?

[prisma anvil]

tbh i'm looking into battlebit....that shit looks good....maybe not from them, but in future if someone basically does like a graphically updated battlebit in the next 3-4 years, bf has solid competition

[arctic grove]

@wide violet boy where u go I ain’t done

[prisma anvil]

what i think bf is sorely lacking is a similar competitor....

[sage ingot]

Are his intro quips just as awful?

[arctic grove]

Yes

[edgy oriole]

I didnt even know there was intro lines

[sage ingot]

They say it when you get shown your squad

[copper fulcrum]

This is what I live for

[arctic grove]

I don't know what he says on english, but his intro lines on my language are just very...
what

[sage ingot]

Spanish?

[arctic grove]

Yes

[fallen yarrow]

Ya, that's why they've become so complacent. COD tried with Ground War... and everyone mocked it for being a low budget battlefield. Now DICE themselves released a low budget battlefield

[sage ingot]

I speak it, so, what does he says?

[arctic grove]

Ground war?

[sage ingot]

Mate, if this is the low budget bf, I cant wait to play the good one

[arctic grove]

que equipo tan serio, a divertirse

[glass swan]

Have you played battlebit it’s wayy better than 2042, if the graphics don’t entice you atleast try it out for the gunplay, for how huge the player count is, it’s insanely responsive and satisfying they got pretty much every “legacy feature” in the game

[sage ingot]

dies

[fallen yarrow]

Looks at the previous battlefields in terms of quality. 2042 spent most of their budget on marketing

[prisma anvil]

inb4 marcus lehto gives un in depth lore about the losses and ptsd that angel has and how these quips are his broken mind trying to make light of his absolutley absurd and fucked reality

[arctic grove]

the cringe... it's too much...

[sage ingot]

Well, the other games are not chaotic 64v64 nor they have asymetric maps, so.... I cant

[arctic grove]

You are talking about World of 2042?

[sage ingot]

None of that material is canon, neither is exodus, you know why? because Pac died, and that makes it fake

[fallen yarrow]

Chaos doesnt not always equal fun. Pacing and combat is much better in previous games. Maps are asymmetric, have you even played any other battlefields?

[prisma anvil]

i havent sadly, i want to register for a chance to be in the playtest tho, it wont be before mid march, but given that i'm in asia ( a low playerbase region) i might have a decent chance to get in ( cuz my region might lack players to test their asia servers)

[arctic grove]

Haha

[prisma anvil]

yeah...the lore that is in the works

[gleaming dawn]

oh wow, Battlebit does look interesting

[arctic grove]

Recker:

[sage ingot]

I mean, the chaos that it happens, specially trying to go for the chokepoint in renewal, that shit is gas, aalang D C and B are fun af, Hourglass D B A is amazing, the rocket map C and D are amazing

[prisma anvil]

its odd to describe it, ordered/ controlled chaos......kinda like giving the illusion of chaos (or chaos to a degree where the player doesnt look for other answers) all the while maintaining a sense of order in the background

[sage ingot]

About the asymetric maps, most bf maps have opposed spawns on maps that spawn across the two spawns, but here we have same sided spawns or spawns that are in the opposite direction of the map's flow, like in hourglass

[fallen yarrow]

All previous battlefields had similar or better experiences in terms of 'feeling of chaos' but you still had some semblance of control in the fights. There are many infantry focused maps, or maps with infantry focused flags with enough cover from vehicles as well

[glass swan]

Damn definitely try it out if you get the chance, it’s insane fun, wild weapon customization, a mix between hardcore and Arcady, destruction quality almost like tear down, and my favorite proximity chat, everyone goes crazy in every game hahshha

[prisma anvil]

i hope my laptop can run it, its a ryzen 5500u , so it might be able to...i hope

[fallen yarrow]

Hourglass has opposite spawns and no flow, can you give a better example of what you mean?

[raven cloud]

if it can run roblox, probably?

[prisma anvil]

i havent used my gaming pc in ages, dont even know if it works anymore

[prisma anvil]

never tried

[spark radish]

wich battlefield game is the best? besides 2042 ofc (that was a joke pls dont come for me)

[sage ingot]

Hmm, imho, 2042 has too few vehicles, there is more people going on foot that on vehicles all the time, and most of the time, you are gonna get absolute shitfaced if you try to tkae the good sectors with a vehicle

[prisma anvil]

it can run gta 4 at like 40-50fps medium.....so idk

[raven cloud]

i personally say 4 or 5

[silk jasper]

bruh they rlly trynna make a big deal out of this next update with a cosmetic bundle and a scoreboard probably strung together in about 20mins

[gleaming dawn]

BFBC2 was the best but it's probably dead by now. 4 is probably the best you can still find a match

[arctic grove]

Bad Company 2 Mobile

[prisma anvil]

it is lacking in transport vehicles...like purely transport vehicles

[spark radish]

too few?? I'd say too many tbh

[prisma anvil]

bf1 for me

[glass swan]

4 and 1, bf3 still has a decent community

[prisma anvil]

overall?...probably 3 or 4

[fallen yarrow]

2042 has way more vehicle presence compared to other battlefield games. In terms of offensive vehicles

[gleaming dawn]

I just never could get into bf1 for some reason. No idea why I felt that way while everyone says it's so great

[sage ingot]

The map flows sideways, A being the left of the map and the city being the right, but the spawns are basically on opposite ends of the highway that leads to C, so you dont have a clear chokepoint and instead forces you to pick a spot and hold it with your life, Holding the left section is my favorite like I said already, but the city section can be fun too if you are more into gun and run

[copper fulcrum]

Depends on the time frame for me really. During BF2's time it was easily my favorite, even during BF3's and BF4's life cycle, I was still on 2.

[raven cloud]

does bf3 have an active community?

[fallen yarrow]

which game mode are you talking about? Hourglass spawns are at A/E on conquest large which are the opposite sides of the map

[sage ingot]

But the maps are so huge that you barely see them if any at all, maybe in renewal, the smalles tone, but on giant ones you can go the entire match and see no tanks other than the start

[glass swan]

Fr way to many I don’t even be getting killed by infantry just vehicles rolling up on me with their splash damage cannons

[raven cloud]

because i refuse to belive steam charts

[prisma anvil]

i mean if you came from bc2, 3 4 days, i can see why the jump to ww1 and the simplified mechanics would be real jarring

[sage ingot]

Most people plays bf3 from origin, as ea didnt sold games in steam back then

[sage ingot]

That is how it felt for me, I just couldnt

[gleaming dawn]

Yeah, maybe I should've just given it more time. I did play it for awhile though

[prisma anvil]

i get that...it was the first bf for me so i love it.....hell, subjectively?...its the best bf overall...but objectively it aint and i know that

[glass swan]

Same for me when I got into bf1 I had a hard time, but eventually learned the mechanics and became way more fun

[sullen basin]

Holy shit kaleidoscope is the most boring map I've ever seen

[prisma anvil]

hell...it took me a solid 7 months ish before i started to enjoy V, and even then it was when i had people to play with..

[sage ingot]

Conquest, but I mean that the map moves sideways more than it does from spawn to spawn, same thing with Aalang, spawns are on opposite sides of B, with that being the main place to get wrecked, and then the rest of the map, but in renewal, they are on complete opposite sides, which gives an OP Locker feel for me, unless you know the other team is fully at other zone, nobody goes for the goalpost zones close to the spawn

[spark radish]

I hate that in renewal the us have so many high points they can fly from and the russians have zero

[sage ingot]

In the one with the rocket, the spawns lead to A/F, but then direct confrontation is not mandatory as the spawns are sideways, not apposed to each other, not creating a choke

[fallen yarrow]

But that's been a thing with most battlefield maps as far as I remember. Take Hamada for example, the spawns aren't even opposite. Fjell, Devestation, Rotterdam, etc all have flow that go from one objective to another. Not necessarily spawn to spawn

[glass swan]

It would’ve been better if there was like some trench warfare thing going on, like Neville nights

[sage ingot]

The underground kaleidoscope is underwhelming af

[glass swan]

Like the middle building right?

[sullen basin]

Honestly that would be dope it's just so.... Plain! Barren. Nothing there to do

[drowsy sapphire]

Are the battlefield devs working from home?

[sage ingot]

And the underpass area aorund it, you even get an elevator that takes longer to close than the distance you move

[sullen basin]

I mean the bank building is cool though

I like that it freezes you with the liquid nitrogen and stuff that's alright I guess

[glass swan]

Yeah that whole map is super underwhelming, in the trailer and art it looked really detailed and cool I thought it’d be a super sick urban map

[sullen basin]

NOTHING compared to the bf4 map located on a Shakey dam that you can blow up! And then flood the entire map with 4 stories of water!

[spark radish]

i love kaleidoscope the best map in my opinion

[fallen yarrow]

Most of Kaleidoscope is fighting in an open park, or inside the central building

[sage ingot]

Well, the last one I played religiously was 4, and there most maps were forced confrontantion, like shanghai, hanoi and paracel storm, giving a place for the other team to fall back to and launch an offensive, same with lakang dam, fight for the central sectors, each team has its "base"

[sage ingot]

That is a thing in most insides

THrow a grenade to force enemies out

[sullen basin]

Awwww... Just hearing the names of those maps brings back such joy

[spark radish]

I think B is fun, and F too, and E is pretty interesting and ofc D. you have so many things going on

only C kinda sucks

[fallen yarrow]

Paracel storm had a lot more freedom, the other maps I can agree with being somewhat 'linear' . But BF4 had a lot of other maps that did provide freedom - most notably the naval strike maps. I haven't played in years so I don't remember all the names

[sage ingot]

If I can vote on it, make it nighttime, asian nightlife has this futuristic vibe to it, and instead of focusing so much on the useless A sector, make underground sectors, thay way there is vehicle and some infantry on top, and full heavy infantry shit down below

[fallen yarrow]

The problem is there is barely any cover from vehicles on B/E. So you're pretty fucked if you go there

[sage ingot]

I am talking about vanilla maps only, think is unfair to compare vanilla 2042 with the absolute masterpiece that NS was

[spark radish]

not if you´re sundance😂

[sage ingot]

I love how every single person forgets about G, that spot is just so meaningless

[spark radish]

yeah it is lol

[prisma anvil]

kinda reminds me about the G point on sinai.....one or two squads just goes there in the beginning of the round to pick up the tank-hunter kit and thats it...

[sullen basin]

It's been so long since I played bf4, and I was a major player. I forgot how fucking spectacular that dlc was

[sage ingot]

I feel you, I got League 1 top 10 ranks on some stuff in my region back then before I moved to the US

[fallen yarrow]

What's everyone's most played battlefield? and how many hours played? I have ~1.5k BFV, ~1.3k BF3, ~1k BF4. Played the other battlefield games much less compared to these 3

[sage ingot]

Man, you dont know what you did, you made me remember the hatred I feel towards that stupid observatory in the ice map, i have lost matches because of that thing

[sullen basin]

Do you guys remember.... Piloting..... BOATS???
👁️👄👁️

[arctic grove]

Boats who?

[spark radish]

2042 and 80 hours

[prisma anvil]

on bf1?

[sage ingot]

Rapist boats, they would just fuck your ass every single time, and I loved it

[sage ingot]

2042

[prisma anvil]

oh breakaway

that one...sorry, i was getting confused between that and albion

i'll be compeletey honest, ive never been to that observatory thing...in all my 10 games on breakaway

[sullen basin]

Battlefield 4. 646 hours in game time according to battlefield companion

[sage ingot]

I get that it was an amazing eye candy for the trailer, but leave it at that, a place you can visit and jump from to get an achievement as sundace, but make it into a sector with that giant long ass zipline and only being air only otherwise....

[arctic grove]

Do it

[prisma anvil]

that peak is only there for sundance mains to feel cool

[sage ingot]

4, 800ish, 3 500, BC2 250

[spark radish]

yall have so much time?😂

[prisma anvil]

cant, it was already hard to find games when i stopped in december....game's probably dead here by now

[sage ingot]

To feel like they contribute to the team instead of being annoying because she can't do anything and has no single useful ability like everyone else

[arctic grove]

I’m on NA servers so I always went to the top as Sundance & I would wing suit off there it’s always fun

[prisma anvil]

across all ps4, xbone and pc i've probably got 1000hrs on bf1

maybe a bit more idk

[spark radish]

meanwhile me who for 80 hours hasnt played as any other specialist but sundance

[arctic grove]

120 hours on 2042

[prisma anvil]

i've got like 614 on ps4, and i only got my ps4 in 2018

[spark radish]

damn idk if thats impressive or kinda sad😂

both probably

[prisma anvil]

thats the only multiplyer game i played back then

even now, i really only play bf as my main multiplayer game

all the more reason 2042's failure has saddened me

[spark radish]

ahh check, 2042 is the only multiplayer game i own but i have no one to play with😭 😂

[sage ingot]

Really, you are missing out on half the game, your self esteem will improve, you will win matches, your friends will love you, girls will drool for you, or boys if that is your thing, it all happens the second you stop maining sundance, play the objective, even angel is better because he can give ammo and revive, or boris, if you are solo only try dozer, he is amazing for soloing some objectives

[prisma anvil]

haha, glider go brrrrrrrr

[fallen yarrow]

Same. The battlefield franchise was my primary multiplayer game. Now I just play single player and co-op games.

[arctic grove]

WRonG

[spark radish]

hmmmm okay okay I like boys and girls so will they both be drooling over me? doesnt sound so bad

[prisma anvil]

like i know the wingsuit controls feel garbo at first...and i've only used sundance a handful of times, but i will agree the wingsuit is fun, even tho i have my own issues with it

[spark radish]

also wich friends?

[sage ingot]

Yes, it will happen, as soon as you stop using her, try pak if you have her, she is useful

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/wingsuit-flying-bass-jump-parachute-gif-5903490

[prisma anvil]

friends are like birds....theyre a lie

[sage ingot]

The friends you will make in the game because eveyrone will love you for being so awesome and making them win matches

[spark radish]

hmmm idk I'd have to change my entire playstyle and that sounds like effort lol

[daring pawn]

Any scoreboard yet?

[prisma anvil]

god i wanna do that

[arctic grove]

[prisma anvil]

only thing is idk if they make suits with bigger wing spans for fat bastards like me

[prisma anvil]

next week....hopefully

[sage ingot]

This is an intervention because we love you, we care about you, you wont have to change anything because she doesnt does anything than any other operator cant in fact these others can do extra stuff like see enemies, heal friendlies, deflect bullets and destroy grenades

[arctic grove]

Bruh

[daring pawn]

You know what, this game gave me trust issues

[prisma anvil]

just turn into a macaky main.....you'll hate yourself just as much as people hate you

it wont be a diffuclt transition either

[sage ingot]

If you dont die from cringe overdose first

[prisma anvil]

"i climbed mt. everest once, its all been downhill from there......get it?"

[spark radish]

I like how first someone says you love me and then someone that people hate me I'm so confused lol

[prisma anvil]

ony thing that matters is whether you love you, brother

[jaunty parcel]

2042. 530 hrs

[sage ingot]

Real question, does mckay has any actual things to him other than the hook? does it has any bonuses or stuff like that? because ven as useless as dozer seems, he basically swallows nades and lives to tell the tale

[prisma anvil]

i think he has like a 10% faster strafe speed ( i think its when he's aiming but not sure) as well

[sage ingot]

I have mowed down so many of them mid grappling that I never noticed

[prisma anvil]

i just used selfish falck cuz i wanted to stay alive for as long as i can to understand the bolt actions

[fiery shoal]

faster move speed when ADS, its noticeable too

[spark radish]

hmmmm yeah I dont I need other people to tell me I'm a good person haha

[prisma anvil]

exactly

[sage ingot]

Angel is right next to her, the cringe remains the same, but the happiness of your team, and your happiness because you will contribute to the team, will change

[prisma anvil]

imo sundance and paik fall in the same cringe bracket

[spark radish]

but flanking is so easy with sundance also destroying vehicles

[sage ingot]

But paik can see enemies and shit, and she marks when hurt, so even if cringe, she is worth to have around, but what happens when people shoots at you with a sundance by you? she yeets out of existence and leaves you there

[prisma anvil]

sundance just feels like a "stereotypical black woman" that you see on those youtube meme videos and paik is just a shitty d.va..in terms of voicelines

[jaunty parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[sage ingot]

Hear me out on this one, because I have experience on this field, paik+irish squad combo, and you can capture the whole map

[prisma anvil]

i mean.....i dont blame em....mackay and sundance are mainly selfish operators....their one purpose is to kill.....its like that russian soldier with the big helmet meme "i dont know who i am, or where i am, all i know is i must kill"

[spark radish]

okay show me sometime

[prisma anvil]

sure you can use em in other ways, but their default use case is to be a selfish killing machine

[spark radish]

but thats the fun part I love playing super agrassive

[sage ingot]

Yeah, but kinda useless as fuck since a kill 1 one ticket and sector majority drains you quicker than a new harry potter sequel

[prisma anvil]

[sage ingot]

Yes, we lost because we didnt captured shit, but thanks to sundance and mckay, we only lost 0-1290

[spark radish]

😂

[prisma anvil]

same for me, i'm one of those "hold W" warriors, but even then, idk, sure, maybe i could do well with em if i tried, but idk, just feels weird

[next onyx]

Mackay just feels right to play.

[spark radish]

the thing is I dont really care about winning cause it feels like you, as one of 64 people dont really have a huge impact on winning or not

[sage ingot]

Also, why nobody plays Rao

[prisma anvil]

hell, i'd use em more on breakthrough defense, where your deaths dont matter but theirs do

[spark radish]

I'd be having 30 kills and also die 30 times😂

[prisma anvil]

poor feedback and reward loop

not to mention the hack is slow as fuck and doesnt really do much to vehicles

[arctic grove]

Gran turismo 7 looking lit

[prisma anvil]

considering how strong the vehicles can be rao's hack should do a lot more, fuck with the controls for a bit or something

[sage ingot]

Yes and no, one person wont turn around the round, but you can get them to spend tickets trying to recapture or seize your objective, that is why people remains on sectors after they were captured, to mow down reinforces waves and drain them further

[prisma anvil]

ehh..dont care about the kd much, getting into fights is how you learn

its why i like infantry more than vehicles, easier to get into action and less downtime

[sage ingot]

I have an idea, scrap the whole thing, and inverse the driving and shooting controls for like a full minute, aiming is firing, firing is aiming, w is back, left is right and so on

That'll fuck with people, specially heli pilots

[arctic grove]

Have y’all taken a look at dozers navalized (or any combat uniform for that matter) combat uniform with his blast resistant helmet?

[arctic grove]

Imagine they just become masters of inverted controls

[sage ingot]

BUt after one minute it goes back to normal, not enough time to get used to it, just enough to make it uncomfortable

[prisma anvil]

i mean...the hack would have to be a passive thing then, a minute in comabt zones is an excurciating amount of time, kinda unfair for helos as well, the thing would take longer to execute and have longer recharge timers and or lower uses

[spark radish]

that makes sense. maybe if I'd play with other people I would do that

[prisma anvil]

i'd rather they limit it to 10-15 secs....

keep the fucked controls part

forces helos to be more careful and reduce em swooping down like stukas and then fucking off, also would introduce a skill gap for the helos in terms of inversion knowledge and reaction times

all the while not being too punishing

[sage ingot]

Yeah, in kaidoscope that is why everyone places turrets after the point is taken, facing elevators or just switches optics and starts shooting to the people trying to get up, because each kill is one ticket, plus the 10 drain from holding an objective plus majority if you have it, sometimes is better to pick a zone and stick to it even if nothing is happening than trying to traverse the map over and over

[next onyx]

Medics matter more in a squad rather than the team in the larger picture.

[sage ingot]

If only they would revive you

[next onyx]

In the ideal situation anyways, Keeping squads healthy.

[sage ingot]

Battlefield, the way I see it, works just like the real military, you wont make a huuuge difference in the big scheme of things, but you notice your imput when you do your job and things get done

[prisma anvil]

holding an objective?....what is this mystical knowledge you speak of sir?.....we all know we must zerg from point to point with the team to win ...........right???

[spark radish]

but non medics can heal squadmates so wouldnt you say medics are matter more for the team? or did I just say something stupid

[sage ingot]

squads can revive only up to 50 health and no armor, and they cant heal you before you go down, falck can

[spark radish]

ahhh okay in that way yeah fair

[prisma anvil]

yes but, ideally, youre with your squad mates more,

[spark radish]

yeah ideally, if you play with random people that can be difficult

[prisma anvil]

so its kinda like having a doctor in the family to treat your tuberculosis vs going out to find a doctor to treat it

[spark radish]

that made everything so clear hahahaha😂

[prisma anvil]

[sage ingot]

There is a weird sense of... cammaradery in full random lobbies, because most people will not know you, but they wait for you so a group can go to a point, they provide cover fire, like, when you play with people that plays battlefield and not just EA's warzone, you feel in tone with them, is also the reason why i dont understand the voip complain

Also because most people uses discord to play, very few people actually uses the mic to talk to full randos on games like BF, or even COD

[spark radish]

never experienced this haha also, 2042 doesnt have a voice chat right?

[prisma anvil]

ah there's a solution to that......from my experience, show them that you wanna play like a squad and most of times, they reciprocate, like, play a medic for a bit, revive em, give em ammo, tbag in front of them while beating em with a bat,

[sage ingot]

Yes and no, operators react to circunstances, so they are your voip, if you play them right

[old thunder]

You could do the rump shaker huh, the thug shaker

[spark radish]

what does voip stand for?

[sage ingot]

They call out help when needed, they call out downed enemies and firendlies, they call out damage and their direction, all you have to do is listen