#battlefield-2042

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bold steppe
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next battlefield game ?

native mantle
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game didnt even got finishd before it got axed,it took 10 months of lies to get there,bf will be at 8th month during summer

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just saying...if you know what im hinting lmfao...

spiral lake
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One thing I want for 2042, despite it being low priority for most, Is a spectator and photo mode.

bold steppe
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but they just hired new leadership with zampella and marcus lehto

native mantle
bold steppe
spiral lake
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lol

bold steppe
native mantle
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fastest big title to die this fast...

bold steppe
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in season 1 update i think they will add a specialist, a new map and some experimental new game mode

spiral lake
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Right now, I have to really go out of my way to cap stuff ingame, disabling hud, switching weapons and taking a screenshot with geforce experience in the frames where no weapons are in view, Or using the MAV in portal or the SOFLAM using the BF3 classes.. It's so difficult to get any kind of VGP stuff in 2042 rn because the tools that we had available to us in BF1/BFV / BF4 just aren't there in 2042 at all

bold steppe
spiral lake
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VGP, videogame photography

bold steppe
native mantle
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it is heart breaking to watch for me,ive been on this jurney since the first bf game

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surreal,like watching/seeing all this going down and still i have a very hard time to accept it as part of reality lmfao

spiral lake
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@bold steppe VGP like this.. for example

bold steppe
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move on now, find some other fps, try apex maybe

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i tried it yesterday, it seemed good

native mantle
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i played some apex already

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in 2042lmfao

shut heron
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Lemon got mad for telling him pkp is op 😩

native mantle
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if EA/Dice has no intention to keep battlefield battlefield than theres going to be a hole in the market that can be taken by someone else

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i just hope it wont stay a hole/gap

dusky blade
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EA’s already said battlefield is a minimal amount of their profits, battlefield won’t even be a Thing

warped pulsar
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Battlefield is so unique

native mantle
native mantle
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someone should go for it if EA is this dumb...

bold steppe
native mantle
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i dont see that happening if cod plans to stay cod than it cant replace bf

bold steppe
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but when there is no bf, they dont need replacing but just acquire the empty space

warped pulsar
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Not even WW3 can replace BF

bold steppe
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players wont have any choice but to play cod for the most part

native mantle
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i get that but im sure there is plenty of people who wont start playing cod just because battlefield is no more

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like i wont thats for sure,im done with cod ever since mw2/bo2

warped pulsar
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Cold war zombies was fun

native mantle
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if EA will decide to make a battlefield again than i will buy that game.and only that,im not interested in apexfield

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i have a feeling thats the only direction that they can see ...apexfield,like the next game wont be more of a battlefield game either

warped pulsar
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More of a reason for them to fix this one

native mantle
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sure hardcore bf people would love that to happen,EA has no reason to do it

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im not deffending EA i just understand how companys think/work

warped pulsar
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If they didn't get this one right, what makes people think trashing this one and making a new one is gonna be better?

native mantle
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well they wont release the next one in such a bad state,and they will do a better job at atracting new players with copying cod/apex even more so in the next one...thats what i think they will do with the next game

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so i dont expect anymore "battlefield" games tbh...

warped pulsar
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I'm pretty sure this game will be turned around, bad news is, we gonna be waiting many months

lime knot
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yea with the way the pandemic is going we're gonna have delays on a lot of things

native mantle
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but i have exactly 0% faith in that...

dry dew
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can I stop getting yeeted from games?..

bold steppe
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but here we are

native mantle
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tbh the buggs aint the reason why i dont want to play 2042 anymore

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the real reasons wont be fixed before the support will be cut from 2042 ,thats why i have no faith in 2042 at all

arctic grove
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which are what

native mantle
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they are so big it would take like at least 1-2 years for dice and ripple to work on them

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complete change of diraction,entire overhaoul

arctic grove
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no specialists?

native mantle
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lore doesnt match the vibe of the game,maps are made for vehicles only

bold steppe
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good detailed maps and destruction for starters

native mantle
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the destruction dna is missing from it,the game feels sterile and clean..none of the previous bf games felt this way

arctic grove
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bro what destruction do you want? your platform would explode if you want hella dynamic destruction

native mantle
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the list is massive i can go on till days

bold steppe
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also vehicle drop off from above give PUBG vibes

arctic grove
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pubg comparison add to bingo card

native mantle
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and thats why i dont think 2042 will be turned around cause it would need to much time and resources for that to actually happen...EA wont be willing too give either of these for 2042

plucky plaza
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EA didnt give enough time for 2042 launch in the first place

bold steppe
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a new polished game at launch is more popular than a game fixed after 2 years which left a sour taste

arctic grove
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not only are the 'problems' you listed not even close to requiring 1-2 years to fix, theyre actually super simple

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vehicle drop off is there to help you traverse the already large maps so like... wtf

fringe hull
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it's EA/DICE we're talking about tho

native mantle
fringe hull
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8months to implement a scoreboard or whatever

scenic tartan
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breakthrough feels closer to balanced now

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defenders can make progress and make the last points more of a contest if it gets there

arctic grove
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all you need to do to make the game feel more like its lore is get rid of the lame end game quips, i honestly see the problem with those as far as making you the player feel like youre fighting in a proxy war to save whats left of organized society, also since DICE is addressing issues concerning the lack of things on the map i think more cover which im sure theyll add will significantly impact vehicles reigning supreme

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i had a problem on breakthrough on renewal some days ago where i was playing a wildcat and had to die to a nightbird hiding behind the side of the wall towards the grass part because my team was defending A and i got so pissed, i had nowhere to go to protect myself

native mantle
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ok

scenic tartan
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I love flying the hind and the condor

arctic grove
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i couldnt go inside the thing where vehicles go to get to the other side to protect me overhead or to get that pesky damn nightbird

scenic tartan
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with a good squad you can just wreck stuff

native mantle
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dice wont change 2042 in to a battlfield game and it would take 2 years at least to make it properly

arctic grove
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has anyone dealt with the attack helicopter being absolutely useless against the hind and condour

native mantle
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cause the issues are that big and its rotten from its core

scenic tartan
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they are way too powerful right now

arctic grove
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im pretty sure its entirely unintentional that the transport helis can just follow attack helis and let the minigunners destroy it making the attack helicopter completely USELESS in the attack role

scenic tartan
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attack heli needs to be ultra buff health if it cant have repairs in flight

arctic grove
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they are too powerful and with the already lack of overhead cover on open/outside objectives its just annoying to even try defending the points when the enemy team can use 2 condours/super hinds at once

scenic tartan
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Its not too hard to shoot down hind/condor if your team has a few FXAA

arctic grove
scenic tartan
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it'll keep them away from you at the very least

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a single FXAA cant do much but if there's like 4 people using it the hind/condor will go down fast if it doesnt run

native mantle
arctic grove
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i know for a fact that wont happen

native mantle
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sure sure,,,lmfao

scenic tartan
arctic grove
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if they didnt cut support to literally ANY of their projects since 4 why the HELL do you think that will happen with this game, you just want it to fail because you cried about specialists

wide violet
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i mean hes not wrong.. theyre already working on the next bf game

native mantle
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first time with EA?have you ever played any EA games?!

arctic grove
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yeah and i have no doubt during Vs lifetime they were already planning what would become 2042 either

versed glade
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yo can we get a Battlefield sucks chant going I'll start

arctic grove
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dont get muted

versed glade
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BATTLE FIELD SUCKS

scenic tartan
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yes one dice employee said they were underway with 2042 during when they were working on the BFV pacific expansion

wide violet
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BATTLE FIELD SUCKS x2

native mantle
scenic tartan
real atlas
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2042 is unfinished

arctic grove
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not to mention the same thing with mw19, they literally started working on both cold war AND mw2 during its life cycle... this isnt new

wide violet
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i copy pasted

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dont @ me @ the og

arctic grove
versed glade
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I before Ea except for pay to play

native mantle
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he is payed by EA

real atlas
arctic grove
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by your logic, no FPS is ever finished at launch because DLCs and future content updates exist

cyan trout
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I wish there was a white knight sticker

real atlas
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By unfinished I mean unbalanced and buggy

arctic grove
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battlefield is one of those games that adds extra content into its lifespan

real atlas
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In early summer lol

arctic grove
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game isnt even that bad ngl

native mantle
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he needs the money so he is defending EA and 2042....and he goes as far as comparing the biggest failure of a triple A launch to bf4...

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imagine...

arctic grove
# real atlas In early summer lol

4 was unplayable for an entire year but it had content would you rather have 2 dlcs but not even be able to play or no dlc until the game is fully stabilized

fringe hull
real atlas
arctic grove
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which is what 2042s predicament is, stability before content

native mantle
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if you compare 2042 to any other triple A launch than nothing really matters what you say afterwards...

arctic grove
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2042s launch was bad but it stabilized way quicker than a lot of triple A titles

versed glade
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do i spy a furry? 🩊 đŸ”«

real atlas
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I just wish they could drip feed us some content soon, and yea lmao I’m a furry xD

arctic grove
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2042 was unplayable for like a couple weeks and right now i can actually play an entire game and not have any game destroying bugs

scenic tartan
arctic grove
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we will get content soon but rn the game is just weeding out bugs, this game has millions of lines of code its not easy to fix bugs since if u fix something something else can break

real atlas
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2042 is fixed to a great extent, but it’s not up to the community’s expectations yet, and it’s losing players extremely fast

arctic grove
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then you need to figure out wtf is causing the NEW problem in all of that code and fix THAT

scenic tartan
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I think i've got the hang of flying the slower helis but the nightbird is a totally different level

real atlas
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True

arctic grove
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it can lose players but trust me it will regain them

scenic tartan
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aiming and flying is a skill

real atlas
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I really hope so haha

arctic grove
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in summer trust me 10k+ players

native mantle
versed glade
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I don't shoot no pats i Just shoot furrys

arctic grove
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once a guy literally said in here "THIS GAME WILL NEVER REACH 100k+ AGAIN" like how tf is it supposed to

real atlas
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lol

native mantle
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smh smh

warped pulsar
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I always help out the team, I try to make the game more fun

scenic tartan
arctic grove
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the game is fun, at least my flares actually work now, remember when they barely ever worked, THAT was a game breaking bug

cyan trout
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Looking forward to seeing it on gamepass

scenic tartan
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PUBG is the only kind of game that can beat its previous peak players like that cause all of china is playing

fringe hull
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This channel is the perfect example of the sunk cost fallacy, it's hilarious to watch 🍿

Players coping about their initial investment so they hope the game will be magically fixed

native mantle
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yeah lmfao its,right now Zadkiel is the show for me,he is funny ngl

arctic grove
real atlas
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hahahahah

arctic grove
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1st of all its anything but a magic fix but you sure as hell are deceived if you dont think the game will rebound

native mantle
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zadkiel you are fighting for poo like its your own child...this is funny

fringe hull
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@arctic grove I already pinged you twice lmao

scenic tartan
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"coping"
bro i get more value out of this game than almost any other and it came free with my NVME

versed glade
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this is a spam message. plz ban the spam

arctic grove
native mantle
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its almost as if your 2042 and my 2042 is not the same game lmfao

arctic grove
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theyre really not... 2042 is really stable not even gonna lie

fringe hull
arctic grove
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my problems with 2042 are these:

undone echo
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matchmaking failed could not find a suitable game in bf4

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help

arctic grove
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no milsim skins
end game quips that remind me more of BO3s end of match viral dances instead of something like "i cant wait to see my family again" which would actually make me relate more to the character and re-inforce the games theme

native mantle
arctic grove
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thats literally it

scenic tartan
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when you get that perfect bolte run + drop cluster mines

arctic grove
versed glade
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hacks are so cheap for this game

arctic grove
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if you buy hacks you have 0 room to talk about ANYTHING 2042 related

native mantle
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some of us wants battlefield to stay battlefield and buggs and glitches aint our only councern but im aware you are unable to comprehend this

versed glade
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I dont buy hacks I just make em. good money

scenic tartan
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2042 is a battlefield game even if you dont like it

cyan trout
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It's just classless

arctic grove
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the only thing that "didnt stay battlefield" is specialists and for the 500000000th time theyre going nowhere

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2042 can add as many specialists as they want. just PLEASE give me the skin options to make them actually look like soldiers

native mantle
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quote me when i even mentioned specialists,i never wrote that word ,thats just in your head

warped pulsar
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I'm assuming they are gonna lock them into classes, since they announced a team was reviewing them

scenic tartan
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need more remastered bf3 maps

arctic grove
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i know for a fact that when you say "this game doesnt feel like battlefield" that and destruction are the only two things youre referring to

versed glade
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now i can be flying man for assault class

arctic grove
undone echo
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could not find a suitable game battlefield 4 help how to fix

warped pulsar
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the new Mackay skin is pretty spicy

native mantle
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i wont continue im happy you like 2042,i dont and you wont ever understand what im talking about..cause you are new to the franchise and to EA

real atlas
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this.

arctic grove
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im not even remotely new to this franchise... never think you know everything about someone especially on the internet

hot ice
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!make battlefield better

native mantle
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yes you are,you probably on lemons server

hot ice
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Didn’t work

native mantle
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lmfao

arctic grove
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i always see you in here đŸ’© on the game but now its "im happy you like 2042, i wont continue"

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....who is lemon...

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can someone tell me who lemon is??

native mantle
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its you

undone echo
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could not find a suitable game battlefield 4 HELP ME

arctic grove
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Battlefield 2042 is?

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....what?

scenic tartan
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bolte kills helis too

arctic grove
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im honestly confused

warped pulsar
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The hate is very interesting. Like I dislike Vanguard, But I don't waste my time hating it daily, I check up on it, nothing good, I just move on.

scenic tartan
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sold vanguard put it towards elden ring

arctic grove
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i can kinda respect vanguard, i can tell the campaign tried to be really woke and... the multiplayer gun customization....

but like i dont even remotely talk about that game

scenic tartan
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dont like maps that are the size of a small apartment where you spawn with your gun barrel in someone else's rear end

arctic grove
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im not in the cod server every day like "LMFAO m1 GARAND DRUM MAG LMFAOOO"

lime knot
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lol

arctic grove
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if i dont like it i just wont even bother with it

native mantle
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and just lets not communicate the 2 of us aight?!

cyan trout
arctic grove
scenic tartan
arctic grove
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im a 5'1 egirl

scenic tartan
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2042 vs 1942 has potential but it needs some work

native mantle
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i told you i know your age shit like this wont work with me...

arctic grove
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i made my profile look this way so weird old guys wont talk to me

native mantle
warped pulsar
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well glad Feb is almost over, we can finally get to some updates in March

arctic grove
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....what is my age?

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mods hes trying to find out my age please ban levi

native mantle
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the way you talk is a pretty big giveaway...

real atlas
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Fact

arctic grove
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wait what updates aer CONFIRMED for march

warped pulsar
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3.3 update

real atlas
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Yeah!
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A scoreboard!

arctic grove
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interesting

cyan trout
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...delayed

real atlas
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^

arctic grove
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okok we get it haha triple a fps no scoreboard on launch lolz hhahlaholhdsladaogdlaglfahokerah

warped pulsar
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scoreboard is one thing, but the bugs will be fixed I hope

arctic grove
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scoreboard is least of 2042s worries

real atlas
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And VOIP in a team shooter!

arctic grove
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nor is it even that important to BEGIN with

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VOIP i can understand, scoreboard HARD NO

real atlas
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Lol why are you so narcissistic xD

arctic grove
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what

real atlas
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Can’t you admit that BF should’ve done better for 2042

native mantle
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things for wich he is to young to comprehend

real atlas
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It’s a hard-earned 60-120 dollars from our pockets

arctic grove
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BF MOST DEFINITELY should have done better for 2042, but lets not regurgitate the same points over and over when half of them are literally being addressed right now

warped pulsar
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They delayed this update for a long time, so they better be testing it, so that nothing else breaks

arctic grove
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oh please HugeJoy it was honestly our faults we paid 60-120 for a game that wasnt even OUT yet

native mantle
real atlas
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They should’ve delayed the game too 💀

arctic grove
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you could have spent like 5 dollars and played it for 10 hours

arctic grove
cyan trout
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Testing?!?! If you bought the game you are the tester

real atlas
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And yea haha I doubt you are encapsulated within the “Mature” rating this childish game is given

native mantle
real atlas
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Ratio

arctic grove
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60 isnt hard earned money tho ngl

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unless youre from a certain region of the world which makes sense

native mantle
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everything bounces of of him...i accepted it,2042 is his baby ,you cant say anything bad about it without his permission...

real atlas
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Okay, what’s your salary? (If you work lol)

native mantle
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he will fight for 2042 till death....

real atlas
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True

arctic grove
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about 23 an hour

real atlas
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What do you do for work to make that salary?

arctic grove
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i build airplane parts

real atlas
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Oh nice lol

arctic grove
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a 15 year old can make 60-120 in like... couple weeks or something

steep skiff
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so your a 15 year old mechanical engineer working for an aerospace company? lol

real atlas
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A 15 year old egirl who makes airplane parts for $23 an hour
 lines up to me

arctic grove
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wtf when did i say i was 15

real atlas
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Aaaaaaa we said that same thing haha Bacon

arctic grove
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....WHEN did i say i was 15

real atlas
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Why would you mention the age of 15 without knowing our ages

arctic grove
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because here in the US 60-120 isnt even "hard earned" since a literal child can make that in a month

real atlas
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What about living costs and taxes?

scenic tartan
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take this to DMs guys

arctic grove
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crying about your 60-120 lost when it was ENTIRELY your responsibility to spend that money on an unreleased game

native mantle
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i had the pleasure of talking with him not long ago,the way he talks is a clear giveaway of beeing well under 20

scenic tartan
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nobody needs to see all this

native mantle
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he is a child,the type who will protect 2042 no matter what,good for him..but i dont wanna talk to him tbh lmfao

steep skiff
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$23 an hour for a mechanical engineer kinda low

arctic grove
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you could have saved 55/115 dollars and spent the 5 for EA game pass or whatever and tried it for 10 hours, saw ok yeah this is definitely not what im going to spend that much money on, wait, and then spend it when its actually worth your money

real atlas
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same Levi let’s just stop and let them live a lie

cyan trout
real atlas
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We tried

arctic grove
native mantle
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lmfao

arctic grove
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mae your points are also invalid and regurgitated

real atlas
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They aren’t invalid though

native mantle
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if you say so...my child..you the foutain of wisdom

steep skiff
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2042's live player count is amazing. I remember they said development was "Way ahead of schedule" hah! these goons

cyan trout
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He never said mechanical engineer. Said building airplane parts. I'm guessing the rivets

arctic grove
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you are trashing the game for no scoreboard and voip when if you knew a thing about game development youd know thats least of the games problems

native mantle
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hahahahahahahahahahahaha

real atlas
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Ok then besides specialists what’s the problems? You were praising the game just a few minutes ago

native mantle
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the length he goes with lying and stuff...

steep skiff
arctic grove
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the specialists are literally fine

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ok so youre one of those specialist despisers... youve already told me everything i need to know about your stance on the game

native mantle
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he changing his own narratives all the time,meanwhile he is accusing me about things i never even mentioned

arctic grove
cyan trout
real atlas
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I don’t mind specialists since I’m not a BF OG. It’s just not fun, even for a player who’s new to the franchise

native mantle
arctic grove
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no no i make parts not working on actual planes

arctic grove
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they just exist

real atlas
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I meant the game as a whole, not specifically specialists

arctic grove
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its ok though since DICE reassured the community... theyre going nowhere

native mantle
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i will say things you wanna hear cause you cant deal with things that you dont like to hear so you twisting it,you do whatever you need too just to fit your own narrative,wich is 2042 is epic

arctic grove
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Meh, if that’s what you fee then okay

tight tapir
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you know what's a really fun game?

arctic grove
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ball surgeon simulator

tight tapir
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Rocket Leauge\

arctic grove
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nope too hard

tight tapir
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So simple, so fun, much skill ceiling

arctic grove
tight tapir
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it is harder that bf2042, that's for sure

arctic grove
tight tapir
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anyone want to play?

arctic grove
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trust me he wont tell you but he is MOST DEFINITELY referring to specialists HugeJoy

native mantle
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it might help and maybe i dont need to tell you

arctic grove
tight tapir
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he's got a point, remove the "battlefield" name from 2042 and TONS of criticism drops\

native mantle
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exactly but childrens are childrens and leviathan and zadkiel are definitly childrens who enjoy 2042 wich is fine but understand some of us dont, try to understand it even if its impossible to you lmfao

arctic grove
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I’ve played every battlefield since 3, at its core this feels like the same title. Only thing that feels that much different is honestly the specialists, but you have to realize they’re only personified versions of the normal class system leo

mighty furnace
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Hardly anyone playing this game.

arctic grove
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literally thousands are playing this game

mighty furnace
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I don't see anyone servers are like 2 people

arctic grove
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Region? Cross play on?

native mantle
mighty furnace
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Hmm. I'll have to check, PC / NA

tight tapir
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destruction doesn't exist either

arctic grove
native mantle
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the cringiest part is that the 2042 defenders are keep brinign the specialist up,i never even mentioned it...

arctic grove
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0 credibility if you refer to people who disagree with you as inferior

tight tapir
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Children aren't inferior

native mantle
arctic grove
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i thought it was about "its fine if you enjoy 2042"?

tight tapir
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they just lack experience and time on earth

native mantle
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like i can work with only with what i see....

arctic grove
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Riiight, well no gain debating this dude, leo leo

native mantle
tight tapir
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sun goes down, moon goes up...can't argue with that /s

arctic grove
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I’m pissed this game dead. I wasn’t even able to reach level 100 was so close. Can’t find matches for 7 days now

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why the hell wont you just admit youre referring to specialists

native mantle
cyan trout
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Only get to see it if we are lucky @tight tapir

native mantle
arctic grove
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you literally referred to someone having a completely civil and open minded discussion with you as a child lmfao

tight tapir
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they might be

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13 is still a child right?

native mantle
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keep up the false accusations dont stop lying even tho i called you out as a liar many times but dont learn from it...

tight tapir
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isn't that internet age?

native mantle
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whatever you need to fit your narrative...

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2042 is epic i told you already,wasnt that enough?!LULW

tight tapir
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McDonalds cheeseburgers are the best cheeseburgers in NA

native mantle
arctic grove
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hey siri, what is the definition of PATHOLOGICAL LIAR?

native mantle
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its getting boring tho...

cyan trout
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McDonalds doesn't have anything good other than over salted fries

tight tapir
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I've had cheeseburgers from McDonalds, Burger King, and Wendys. McDonalds cheeseburgers are the best. - BF2042 player

native mantle
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chad

arctic grove
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havent most people tasted cheeseburgers from all 3?

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obama saying the word cheeseburger is comedy

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Dave will shit in your frosty @tight tapir

tight tapir
arctic grove
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quite a lot of em

cyan trout
arctic grove
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chik fil a, five guys, oh yeah list goes on man

tight tapir
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2042 is the FAST FOOD version of Battlefield

arctic grove
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why exactly since maybe i can have an actual discussion with you.... levi genuinely disturbs me

native mantle
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ping a mod

arctic grove
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im really concerned for whoever has ever had a disagreement with him in his life

native mantle
arctic grove
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he probably made them disappear

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Bruh this game not even dead I had crossplay off the whole time 😭😭😭

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yea see

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Idk how it turned off by itself wtf

tight tapir
arctic grove
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restart your game to make sure i guess

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2042 has a little problem with resetting vehicle loadouts... wouldnt be suprised if it were the same with settings too

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anyone know if DICE has actually addressed the vehicle loadout reset thing

native mantle
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yeah they fixed everything

tight tapir
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Why can’t you change teams

arctic grove
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because everyone would just switch to the winning team or attacking team in breakthrough

hardy dune
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Like in portal

arctic grove
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oh nvm portal is different

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native mantle
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arctic grove
native mantle
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I wanna be able to switch teams in my own portal game so we can play as the US on rush

native mantle
tight tapir
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The official BF2042 discord has become too toxic and isn't a place to engage in constructive criticism

native mantle
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so like i think adressing me is a waste of your time...

arctic grove
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"its gonna take 2 years to fix the map"

DICE themselves: we are going to begin a live player feedback whatever with the community concerning changes to things such as gunplay or MAP DESIGN

arctic grove
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yeah what makes 2042 the mcdonalds of fps games

tight tapir
native mantle
mighty furnace
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I'm playing now is fun as ever.

arctic grove
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i mean its not like i ever said 2042 doesnt have a lot of problems

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tight tapir
arctic grove
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so what basic features are you referring to that you honestly need THAT bad

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native mantle
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agreed,dududu come back later when he is offline

arctic grove
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you have discord for VOIP, and for the 100000th time, if scoreboard was truly that important at this stage of game development, it would already be here

tight tapir
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They don't even have a discord integration

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A FREE TO PLAY game does

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But we all know that HALO scared DICE

arctic grove
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nah they wanted their holiday sales

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cmon bro how tf did HALO honestly do that much damage when they also lost 90% of their playerbase by now

tight tapir
arctic grove
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yes, greed

tight tapir
arctic grove
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i mean all im saying is youre not gonna die without voip or a scoreboard but its ridiculous the game doesnt have it

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tight tapir
arctic grove
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pc optimization did way more damage than halo

arctic grove
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the reason why is because when you HAVE to compete that automatically puts an emphasis to actually try to succeed, when youre already at the top, people will buy your game regardless so who cares what its like

tight tapir
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Which is why I like the free market sometimes

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highlights good products vs bad products

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2042 being a bad product.

arctic grove
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the reason i have my particular stance on 2042 is because i have read direct-communication and it says a lot about DICES commitment and effort towards making this game great

tight tapir
native mantle
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lmfao

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hahahahhahahhaahahah peak comedy,thank you

arctic grove
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and in the case of this game, you have to realize that actions take time to prepare and then roll out

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destruction

arctic grove
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you yourself said DICE has a list of known game issues? not an overnight fix

tight tapir
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worst communication strategy NA

native mantle
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not a lot of words or actions but a lot of copium without any base for it

mighty furnace
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lets just play the game

tight tapir
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no admission of mistakes made, more of "we hear what you want"

mighty furnace
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need players 2042 Rush

tight tapir
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We are the demanding consumer and they will try to meet our "brutal expectations"

native mantle
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its like saying someone kept lying to me and kept doing nothing and i kept having faith in him for no reason...this is what he said basicly...

arctic grove
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ngl none of you DESERVE an apology or admission from a multi billion dollar company lmfao

native mantle
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good comedy tho ngl i love it...its actually entertaining

tight tapir
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and they don't deserve a good rating

arctic grove
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wasnt the last time dice apologized during like, 4s launch... after it got lawsuited

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tight tapir
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true, they can have their bots play their game

arctic grove
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oh nooooooooo youre going to give the game a 1/10 or 1/5.... oh no...

tight tapir
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They added bots...wonder why.

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Dice/EA wont care till their stock prices are wiped.

arctic grove
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^

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real crown
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dice gets added to the graveyard

low sparrow
native mantle
tight tapir
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I haven't played the game since middle of January, and my gaming happiness has improved drastically. This game basically killed our clan and our discord

arctic grove
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can ai climb objects ?

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2042 ai

real crown
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fun fact fallen order wasnt fully EA

native mantle
tight tapir
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I was Anthem'd

real crown
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it was on the works before in 2016 before respawn was bought out by EA after they flopped tittyfall 2

tight tapir
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it sucked

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arctic grove
tight tapir
arctic grove
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and i am actually making this decision even despite EA/DICes track record

real crown
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get the suit boys

arctic grove
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if summer comes around and its an utter disappointment you can clown me forever

arctic grove
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if voip, scoreboard, ads bug, specialist rework, etc isnt it in summer, i will 100000% accept it

tight tapir
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The folks that could pull something out of their ass no longer work there

native mantle
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you will lose it,expectantions wishes wont be met,only for you guys perhaps

arctic grove
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yeah we'll see levi

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hell im not even acknowledging march, april, may updates

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which could be substantial improvements for the game let alone summer and season 1

real crown
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scoreboard was announced then immediately delayed a month xd

native mantle
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scoreboard and voip wont save this garbage...

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scenic tartan
native mantle
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adding some extra layer to maps also wont be enough...

arctic grove
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tight tapir
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If the game actually becomes good, people will play it.

arctic grove
real crown
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this game doesnt have shit in it

tight tapir
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@scenic tartan simp more please.

real crown
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maps legit bare af and theres barely any weapons to keep the game going

scenic tartan
native mantle
arctic grove
real crown
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obvi

arctic grove
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have you t1d all weapons

real crown
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already put 73 hours in the game and unlocked everything

tight tapir
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like you have t1 on EVERY. LAST. THING. in this game

real crown
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boring af after you unlock attachments

native mantle
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dont belive this child he is lying mostly...i mean zadkiel is lying...

arctic grove
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and let me ask you ANOTHER question, did you do portal bot farms on launch???

real crown
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who tf farms bots

arctic grove
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ok so you have poop bucket

real crown
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thats a "breach of service"

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like i want urban maps which has destroyed skyscrapers , flooded map , i want to see levolution in urban maps

tight tapir
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Good night, don't play too much BF2042: you will regret it

arctic grove
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a lot of people will agree when they say levolution isnt even that great

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I want more variety attachments and more goddam guns with more interesting maps

arctic grove
real crown
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legit the attachments are so samey that the scopes are the only real variety

arctic grove
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you literally do not know that until summer and as i already said if the same cycle re-occurs i will admit iw as wrong

scenic tartan
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ea did not blame halo for anything

real crown
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EA in their report claimed halo was too polished and hurt bf 2042 sales

arctic grove
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That’s the biggest misconception. EA blamed HALO

real crown
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you cant deny it

native mantle
arctic grove
arctic grove
real crown
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already shitton of videos covering their report on bf 2042

scenic tartan
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dragon age is the next game they will screw up, BET

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"In any case, I'm not sure the evidence here supports the idea that EA is blaming Halo for its woes. It's possible there was some frustration that Halo Infinite came out of nowhere to make Battlefield look bad, but based on Xfire's report, it sounds like the comment was a soft affirmation that Battlefield 2042 should have been delayed. Halo Infinite itself was delayed for a year, and Miele reportedly praised it and suggested that Battlefield should have met the same standard."

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just like most of the headlines, its fake news

native mantle
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fun fact EA allways says the truth

real crown
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so you saying their entire report on bf 2042 is fake news then

arctic grove
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It’s not, but you misunderstood it

scenic tartan
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give any proof at all that they blamed halo

arctic grove
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Yes, please, ANY proof

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all i know is these people defending EA while they dont even work for EA ...lets say they dont wanna know what i think of them

arctic grove
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Does anyone know the original context of the ahead of schedule comment? BF2042 has especially reminded me to never take things at a face value

native mantle
arctic grove
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who cares what you think im a god you are not @native mantle

scenic tartan
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unable to provide proof
shift to insults

native mantle
scenic tartan
grizzled whale
scenic tartan
# arctic grove JUST READ IT

i read it when it came out there's no proof that they blamed halo
it doesnt even say ea blamed halo in that article

native mantle
arctic grove
native mantle
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you dont wanna see it thats on you tho...

scenic tartan
native mantle
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its everywhere...its harderd to hide from the news related EA blaming halo than searching for it..

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cyan trout
scenic tartan
real crown
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bruh you want a literal sentence screaming omg halo ruined everything

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these big companys will never use straight forward language they cant say it directly

arctic grove
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EA simply accepted the fact that they fcked up. I doubt anyone would be in charge of EA if they blamed someone else for a game under their devs not being polished at launch

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but they literally arent blaming halo they're showing an example of a game that did it better than they did with a stable launch..

native mantle
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its good comedy tho

real crown
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its very simple english teacher reading of "halo was more polished and ours wasn't"

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native mantle
real crown
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Following the game's launch, DICE rolled out its Day 1 and Day 0 patches to get the bug count down further. On this, Miele continued and said that Battlefield 2042's launch and patches meant "the game was stable" and "the early critical reception was good". However, according to EA, things took a turn, and that turn was clears throat,​ the surprise release of Halo: Infinite multiplayer

arctic grove
scenic tartan
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no its not

arctic grove
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but it is lol

scenic tartan
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he doesnt quote anybody when he brings up halo - on purpose.. he uses quotes before and after but the halo part is what he interprets it as

native mantle
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yeah but he made up his mind already ,he doesnt care about facts he cares about what he decided long ago..and that is defending EA and 2042 no matter what.....

arctic grove
real crown
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man dead set on his row boat for the ocean

native mantle
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indeed

scenic tartan
arctic grove
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Exactly

real crown
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"it was more polished"

arctic grove
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^

grizzled whale
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Trying to use logic in this channel never works out guys, dont bother

native mantle
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biased i would say cause he is aware of what mele said and what the entire internet iss saying but he just decided to back EA for some reason...

arctic grove
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They literally admitted that 2042 was less polished, they know they fcked this up. Nothing about that was saying halo was to blame

scenic tartan
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EA literally just says "we fucked up, we werent up to standard of the competition" and somehow that turns into "blame halo"

real crown
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standard corporate writing of saying their game came out more favorable than a buggy mess of theirs

native mantle
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@scenic tartan legit question,are you getting your salary from EA or you are a customer?!

arctic grove
real crown
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this man getting paid in beanies

scenic tartan
arctic grove
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real crown
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cod laughing

arctic grove
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The comparison wasn’t about that leo

native mantle
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native mantle
scenic tartan
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an EA exec is never going to say "MAN OUR GAME WAS SHIT"
they are going to say "we failed to meet the expectations and we looked bad compared to other games"

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and then somehow that becomes "EA BLAMES HALO"

foggy tundra
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what in the fuck....

real crown
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goddam

arctic grove
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Spud no use bro it’s time to retreat fam

foggy tundra
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yall need to come down a few notches

arctic grove
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Save your time man

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grizzled whale
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If ive learned anything from arguing in this channel its that logic and common sense falls on flat ears

real crown
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my brain lmao

native mantle
scenic tartan
arctic grove
scenic tartan
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i guess this might be as close as you can get but there's no blame here.
"Halo Infinite was a very polished title whereas Battlefield 2042 contained bugs and wasn't as polished." If that's what was said, it's true: Halo Infinite was lambasted for its battle pass, but the dominant criticism was not that it was buggy, and that was a major criticism of Battlefield 2042.

grizzled whale
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Also dont forget its tom henderson, dont believe everything he says either

arctic grove
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Tom is a complete joke too, hyped the game for so long then when he see it shat the door he switched sides

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Devs blames Halo, but they also blame Covid too but you know when Covid came and destroyed everyone's work, DICE should like done something to make it work, I know you they probably tried working on the project at home, but they should have use the blueprints from BF1 and make it more updated for BF 2042

native mantle
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The marketing was good, you can't deny that

arctic grove
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Yeah

scenic tartan
arctic grove
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Someone said dice will continue this cycle they had with battlefront 2 and anthem, but honestly, can we really bet that they’ll cut support or whatever when even EA is reflecting on the fact they screwed up? Like surely they can’t just leave 2042,

I don’t know that’s just my take

native mantle
mighty furnace
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IDK what everyones problem, the game is set in 2042, in 20 years I can see this being true. Battlefield full of rainbows and unicorns

arctic grove
scenic tartan
real crown
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bf 2042 on copium

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arctic grove
scenic tartan
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well, its insults then

arctic grove
arctic grove
arctic grove
chrome obsidian
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Guys what I learned from them is that if I'm a car maker I would remove speedometers because people go too fast

arctic grove
scenic tartan
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I dont know why battlefront 2 is even in that lot because they came back and revamped the progression and did a ton of free content

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maybe they'll add 5 new maps in the season pass, and 12 new weapons. hmmm nah.

arctic grove
scenic tartan
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the battlefront 2 lootbox snafu was by far the worst issue of any modern EA release and they went back and fixed that and made the game really very good after

arctic grove
arctic grove
white geyser
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BF 2042, they can create weapons we never seen, I had to look up for the AK-24's counterpart in real life and its counterpart is the AK-12. They should have look up other weapons and create their own version to make more guns in the game.

arctic grove
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These maps are large after all and map developers will have to keep in mind the complaints received with the 7 we got on launch the entire development process

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I doubt there will be any geo fixes on the current maps

arctic grove
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The maps are most likely art locked and the only hope we have is the DLC which is my guess is they’re redoing the entire first map for season 1

rotund stream
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apparently in 1917 (bf1) they had 5x the variety of weapons than in 2042. makes sense?

arctic grove
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Honestly, nah

foggy tundra
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but are games made to make sense?

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nah

arctic grove
arctic grove
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It was double

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That’s true as well, most of the guns in BF1 were variations of just one

foggy tundra
arctic grove
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Bf1 had 44 different weapons with variations to bring it to like 83

foggy tundra
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arelimbs falling off?can i see gore?

arctic grove
foggy tundra
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certainly

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The giant amount of weapons in real life that can be used as inspiration makes me think that they were just lazy

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foggy tundra
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vanguard isnt a sim tho

arctic grove
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It’s just Hollywood

arctic grove
copper fulcrum
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An STG-44 can blow people in half in that game for some reason

foggy tundra
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if i play a simulator, i best be seeing intestines flying tbh

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arctic grove
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Modern era is good just because the amount you can do with it, ww2 is more cinematic

copper fulcrum
arctic grove
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how would you like your intestine neckless

copper fulcrum
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I should be laying in bed for weeks, staring my ceiling after I play the game

arctic grove
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Get a Purple Heart too

foggy tundra
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excuse me i have a neck

arctic grove
copper fulcrum
arctic grove
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Ah yes, .50 BMG bar seems conventional

rotund stream
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good way to dislocate your upper body

arctic grove
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Your shoulder would be nonexistent after firing that

copper fulcrum
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They should've just made an M2 Browning and put that round in that

arctic grove
copper fulcrum
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NOPE, .50 BMG and it doesn't even change the magazine size it just magically fits

arctic grove
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Man portable M2 Browning

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copper fulcrum
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Who'd have a DevTac Ronin tho?

arctic grove
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Gotta give them little bread crumbs

copper fulcrum
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Boris maybe?

arctic grove
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BORIS

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Good job Boris, thanks Boris

copper fulcrum
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Maybe if we get a Japanese Specialist, they get the Ronin helmet for their Tier 1 if we're lucky

chrome obsidian
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Oh boy

rotund stream
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Dont be sad, thats just how it works out sometimes.

chrome obsidian
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With a Canadian map coming up sure

arctic grove
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That Johnathan dude from royal armoury museum watch COD vanguard the guy wanted throw a tantrum

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foggy tundra
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i can write in kanji

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somewhat

arctic grove
grizzled whale
chrome obsidian
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I wanna learn kanji

arctic grove
arctic grove
foggy tundra
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i mean

foggy tundra
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im N4 in japanese

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if that means anything

arctic grove
foggy tundra
arctic grove
foggy tundra
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katakana be a bit stinky

iron blade
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I DID IT

foggy tundra
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but hiragana i can read

arctic grove
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Like at least in kanji I can break down radicals

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iron blade
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I finally got the peacekeeper lets fucking gooooo

arctic grove
iron blade
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Ye

chrome obsidian
arctic grove
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So just do input and you’ll pick it up quite easier don’t try and output or else you’ll get a bad accent

iron blade
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Its a badass gun

arctic grove
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Just listen, and listen, get used to how Japanese sounds.

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all i know is where words end and start

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if im listening to japenese

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It gets better over time, just like your native language when you were a kid

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Once you start learning words you’ll start parsing sentences

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I’ve learned the word for uncle and grand father just by watching Japanese content

muted plume
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just beat bf4’s campaign i killed irish very sad day

arctic grove
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Ye you just gotta reinforce what words you learned so it’ll stick and once you get and hear those words, the blur between them gets easier and noticeable

arctic grove
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I though it was cow

iron blade
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Yessir, it was very easy

arctic grove
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nothing beats baby sloths

iron blade
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Other than the conflict ee, had to get help for that one

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arctic grove
# chrome obsidian Anime it is

Yeah that’s what I did, I’ve been just going through slice of life shows, currently watching through food wars a second time

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I recommend animelon site for raw Japanese anime toggle sub on and off

chrome obsidian
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I stopped watching food wars because I didn't always have a snack on me

arctic grove
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Look up the refold method

chrome obsidian
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Retold method, alright

arctic grove
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Refold

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Phone auto corrected

chrome obsidian
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Ooooo

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Wait I'm confused xD

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Alright got it

frigid iris
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im bored

copper fulcrum
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Hi bored, I'm dad.

frigid iris
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hi daddy

signal trout
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hey i wonder why is it that on the mastery badge for the recon LTV the car has armor plating on it

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dice when are you gonna add this

frigid iris
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never because you asked

copper fulcrum
frigid iris
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could change that

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copper fulcrum
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I'd rather not, I have enough kids as it is

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The rose is a kind gesture tho

frigid iris
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fair

dusky blade
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Weird Alice

prisma anvil
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CloseRaccoon da hell ya'll doin over there?

frigid iris
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im just tryin to squad up

prisma anvil
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Understandable....good luck with that...

frigid iris
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yeah...

wide violet
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someone tell me not to buy vanguard for warzone

dusky blade
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Don’t waste your money on vanguard

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Don’t waste your time on warzone

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wide violet
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theres nothing to play tnoiq

chrome obsidian
wide violet
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arcade shooters man

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frigid iris
dusky blade
wide violet
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arcade fam

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can we all agree halo isnt good?

dusky blade
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Trust me man
And halo and splitgate are arcade

chrome obsidian
dusky blade
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Halo is amazing

wide violet
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oh shit

frigid iris
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halo gets boring quickly

dusky blade
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Halo infinite is meh though

frigid iris
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its the same game modes and maps since launch

dusky blade
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We need to return to old halo

frigid iris
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plus no custom games

chrome obsidian
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So we can all agree BF is the arcade game that we want, still they thought it was best to not let the franchise be itself

dusky blade
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Halo needs to have classic movement and maps back

wide violet
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modern gaming sucks huh

dusky blade
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Live service man, modern gaming in a nutshell
And trend chasing

wide violet
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F

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# wide violet F

Apex , valorant , Warzone , fortnite , pubg are fun free games

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Halo infinite also

dusky blade
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Apex, valorant, warzone, fortnite, oh god they’re bad

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Cant stand those games

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All live service, mostly boring battle Royales

wide violet
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^

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remember when we all thought 2042 was gonna be bf4.5

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wide violet
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Has left the chat

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I am waiting for this year call of duty super excited for it

lethal path
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Hi guys

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Yo

lethal path
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Yo

copper fulcrum
toxic shore
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So

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Any news on the refunds?

arctic grove
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No

arctic grove
unkempt tartan
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Havent tried apex out thinking about downloading it

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unkempt tartan
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white geyser
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Although this game has admin and you can do private server so the cheaters can't enter, but luckily it has co-op sadly it's not matchmaking, this is why I spend more time if they add online co-op mode and now BF 2042 is gonna take some time to fix and rework AOW. I feel like it's safter in co-op mode so you don't have to deal with cheaters/hackers in the PVP and don't tell me "why not play with real life players instead of bots?" you don't know if the player is in the mood for PvP or rather play co-op to chill out and play with their friends.

toxic shore
copper fulcrum
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Microtransactivision is probably the only clever jab I've seen at their name other than the obvious Activi$ion

arctic grove
toxic shore
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I mean, the community already abandoned the game 💀

unkempt tartan
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Idk why bf got so much hate I still enjoy it time to time

lime knot
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if that's true then why are there still players playing the game?

white geyser
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Anthem was never save, didn't even making a comeback

toxic shore
arctic grove
arctic grove
toxic shore
unkempt tartan
white geyser
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Before I sold Anthem, I was only flying around like Iron Man and fighting monsters

arctic grove
cyan trout
toxic shore
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See the thing is, bugs and glotches aint the only issue with this BF. The design choices and team all messed up horribly

cyan trout
arctic grove
cyan trout
toxic shore
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Bro, they abandoned Battlefront. Yes they can abandom BF

arctic grove
toxic shore
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Same how they did with Titanfall

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Medal of Honor

cyan trout
toxic shore
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Hell the Dice team we got rn aint the same Dice from BC or Bf3 nor Bf4

cyan trout
dark charm
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Nothing better then getting hate mail on Battlefield 5😂

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Absolutely perfection 😍😍😍

cyan trout
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They gonna give everyone the rewards they paid for with the year one pass as a gift and move on to the next battlefield. @arctic grove

white geyser
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I think the old DICE devs who left should help the new DICE devs how to make a good battlefield games

arctic grove
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They wont refund the game that would be stupid

toxic shore
cyan trout
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Imagine getting year 1 content after year 1...

arctic grove
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You think they are going to do nothing and wait till next year?

cyan trout
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I think as of December game would be out for more than 12 months. They may do some of the year 1 but some people are under the impression they get access to 4 seasons

arctic grove
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The only thing we can do is wait

cyan trout
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Time will tell but wouldn't hold my breath

arctic grove
rugged sail
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If portal free now?

arctic grove
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Nah

arctic grove
rugged sail
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I read it

arctic grove
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Where

rugged sail
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Instagram

arctic grove
rugged sail
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Yes

arctic grove
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Bruh

arctic grove
rugged sail
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From the official account

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Battlefield

arctic grove
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Wait il see

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I dont see it

wooden steeple
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Halo is a dead game with no contents and dead devs , bf2042 is... still dead

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portal free or free for all?

arctic grove
rugged sail
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Latest post in the upper place off the pic

arctic grove
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Does it say free for all

wooden steeple
wooden steeple
rugged sail
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It says free for all in that pic

wooden steeple
arctic grove
bold steppe
wooden steeple
rugged sail
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Ok

arctic grove
wooden steeple
wooden steeple
arctic grove
bold steppe
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and i dont care about anything that happens on this planet

wooden steeple
arctic grove
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Ok

bold steppe
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russian can invade whole world for all i care

wooden steeple
trim surge
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Murica good russia bad

white geyser
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You cannot trust a dictator, they are evil!!

wooden steeple
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battlefield 2022...

fiery solar
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COD is gonna make ukraine border map before Battlefield and we cant have that

trim surge
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In the next cod campaign russia nukes Ukraine and murica saves the day

fiery solar
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historically accurate

arctic grove
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If ukraine gets nuked wouldnt that be to late to get saved ?

fiery solar
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we prevent the nuke in the story but launch it anyway for a badass getaway scene

thick copper
arctic grove
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Cod ww3

thick copper
arctic grove
restive saddle
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If you want to go by game standards then doesn't that one guy literally survive a nuke detonating right next to him in BF3?

arctic grove
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Isnt china on rusian's side?

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If so if rusia invades ukraine that would mean ww3

restive saddle
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They are allied but they don't entirely share the same interests

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And not necessarily, Ukraine has already been invaded by Russia in recent times before

arctic grove
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But this time nato and amerika are on ukraines side rusia have already deployed so much troops on the border of ukraine it would be really weird if they just blow the attack of

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I hope they dont invade ukraine tho

bold steppe
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US said its a matter of when and not if, the russian attack is inevitable

arctic grove
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Its probably gonna be today

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Im gonna leave this discord. Nothing good here anymore. Bye X friends.

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👍

restive saddle
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So in a way not direct involvement

arctic grove
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Yup

bold steppe
bold steppe
sullen badge
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wat

arctic grove
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Huh

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How ru replying with lol to that you must be rusian cheese man

arctic grove
simple agate
arctic grove
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Ok

crude shard
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do you guys think that this thing that we call a game (battlefield 2042) will ever get good or just stay bad?

arctic grove
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It will get good

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After some time just be patient hating wont help it it will only be worse

chrome obsidian
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Unless it changes it's core it won't really

arctic grove
crude shard
arctic grove
crude shard
arctic grove
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Wrong

crude shard
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mmm

arctic grove
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No

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PLSSSSSSSS if you are here to just hate you should leave

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Nope

arctic grove
arctic grove
crude shard
arctic grove
crude shard
arctic grove
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V sucks

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Kinda does

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They even dropped support for it

crude shard