battlefield-2042

[fierce gull]

but I want hardline

[low mist]

I hope so, it would be nice to see seige of shanghai

[fierce gull]

remake of siege of shanghai would be great

[low mist]

Give the assult class deployable ziplines lmao

[low mist]

That would make portal very interesting

[junior pike]

yeah

[cyan trout]

Motel map would be nice

[junior pike]

The siege of Shanghai is the best map

[glacial lantern]

That's BF4 universe. Portal is based on BF3.

[frosty mural]

They need to add Metro and firestorm to portal

maybe even grand bazar that was fun

[fair hinge]

isnt firestorm the dead battle royale map for bf v

[frosty mural]

no operation firestorm

the one with the oil spill in BF3

[fair hinge]

oh

oh yes thats right, firestorm is just what the mode was called, the map was called Halvoy or something

[gusty jasper]

They are planning on adding more games

if they still are committed to that plan

[tender folio]

Hi, Im Halo

[fierce gull]

How?

We have more titles in portal

I mean only 4 titles including 2042

[arctic grove]

hello!

[mossy badge]

hello peng

[arctic grove]

hi dududu999

[mossy badge]

du du du is actually a song by BLACKPINK

and 999 i stole from JUICE WRLD

[steep jewel]

Black pink is paradoxical, just like people enjoying their music

[mossy badge]

i enjoy their music 🙌

[glacial lantern]

Neebs gaming episode was hilarious regarding 2042.

Poor maintenance dude... lost his marriage and still has broken shit to fix. Good representation of DICE lol

[lunar fjord]

a new FAIL everyday

[steep jewel]

The game doesn't run very well on any hardware so idk

[neon chasm]

That's it? I'm ready for round two

[steep jewel]

My builds dope as hell and still no 2042 will grace the ssd

Yee for sure

[fiery shoal]

its optimized in a way for old mid tier hardware to be able to at least run it, its pretty impressive you can run 2042 off a 9400 and 1060

sadly, that kind of optimization screws over high end hardware

[naive quiver]

The only pc can overkill will be rtx 3090ti

[fiery shoal]

theres like 100 reasons people stopped playing 2042, imo not a lot of them are major problems, but theres so many little problems it all adds up to not being worth it

9400 and 1060 6gb at 1080p low gets 60 fps

[hardy dune]

RussianBadger’s PC caught fire while playing the beta

[mossy badge]

its not constant 60 in heavy situations it can reach to 45-60

and dieing because of stutter and fps drops is not fun 😭

[fiery shoal]

basically like any game, but more reasonable for 2042 considering just how much can go on in a single area at any given time

[mossy badge]

imo 2042 is a poorly optimised game

[fiery shoal]

compared to?

[mossy badge]

i am not gonna compare it

[fiery shoal]

because there isnt anything comparable to it, so its really hard to say its not optimized well

[cedar turtle]

Do you remember me? The name's Haywood

[fiery shoal]

the closest are BR games that lose 1/4 of its players in the first 2 minutes, and 3/4 of the players in the next 10

[mossy badge]

anyone who is playing it can tell u its not well optimised

[fiery shoal]

#doubt

[mossy badge]

u can doubt but i am sure

[fiery shoal]

youre talking about a bunch of people that cant even quote "love letter" right, and you want to suggest they even understand coding in the first place? let alone optimizing 128 player large scale warfare? mmmk

[cedar turtle]

The name's Haywood

[mossy badge]

128 players isnt a big deal in a flat map

[fiery shoal]

theres been flat maps in bf before...

[mossy badge]

until devs are not good enough to optimize it

[fiery shoal]

you can use mid tier hardware from 4ish years ago and get 60 fps...

[thorn quartz]

no you lie i have super computer and cant get 30fps

[mossy badge]

getting 60 fps and getting constant 60 fps is very different thing

[fiery shoal]

well the videos ive seen show him getting 80 mostly, he dropped to 60 while being in the midst of the battles

[mossy badge]

i am telling u by my experience not by someone else video

[fiery shoal]

so "dude trust me' because you cant provide a link? i dont even know what your specs are, hell you could not download drivers either

[mossy badge]

telling by your own experience is better proof

[fossil flax]

Quit crying about the game and get a lyfe plz

[fiery shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/hockey-only-game-bryzgalov-anahe-gif-8306971

[neon chasm]

I think I pulled something back there

[gentle stag]

So i preordered ultimate on my xbox one, downloaded the game and got it as normal and then got the xbox series x. However now the microsoft store says i dont own the ultimate version of the game yet i own all the add ons for ultimate and the game except for the seasonal pack, anyone else got this?

[fossil flax]

Go find something else to play or work on yourself in real life aka the gym/women/career

[neon chasm]

The game is fun overall

Just not enough content to keep grinding over and over

[fiery shoal]

its only fun with friends, im bored as shit playing it solo

[neon chasm]

I disagree but respect your opinion

[mossy badge]

noo i just said this game is not well optimised thats all

[fiery shoal]

and honestly, almost any game is fun with friends so thats not really saying anything different about 2042

[fiery shoal]

hes not talking to you

[mossy badge]

and i am not talking to you

[fiery shoal]

legit just clarifying that he wasnt talking to you, the dudes message he was talking to got deleted.. but go on and be a dick

[faint pivot]

The real problem is refunds were not offered on all platforms

[mossy badge]

awwww dont cry

[fierce gull]

i came back just to read cringe

[edgy oriole]

These boys freaked around and fixed tickets.

[grizzled whale]

Ah nice a jet skin

[fierce gull]

it's clean

[fiery shoal]

ill never understand how if you dont agree with someone they just have to oppose everything you say afterword, childish

[thorn quartz]

early summer man i wanted new content right then aye

[grizzled whale]

something 95% of the playerbase will never use

[edgy oriole]

it do be looking a lil slick

[mossy badge]

thats what u do all the time

[grizzled whale]

it does, ill be seeing it a lot

[fierce gull]

we can flex later on if the game does a comeback

[grizzled whale]

and ill make the enemies see it REAL UP CLOSE at the start of some matches

[fiery shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-i-dont-even-know-who-you-are-marvel-gif-15769006

[mossy badge]

do i know u ?

[thorn quartz]

early summer man what a dream to come true

[fiery shoal]

thats actually an interesting point, all the skins that come out now will be rare in the future

[safe verge]

does auto repair count for the weekly

[trim pelican]

When are we getting the Steadfast Mackay bundle? Really want that drip

[gentle stag]

After the march 3.3 update

[trim pelican]

0of

[gentle stag]

I want microsoft to buy EA,

[grizzled whale]

bruh wtf

sub 10 minute conuest match

[candid leaf]

Lol

[steep jewel]

21 kills and assists? So you got 21 of each, or some assists some kills?

[grizzled whale]

its combined

[steep jewel]

So it just doesn't say

[grizzled whale]

but it was 21 kills

[stoic ferry]

anyone have the " all terrain tactician " tag? feels impossible to get it.

[copper fulcrum]

Which one is that again? I just have Kill Machine on

[grizzled whale]

10 ibjectives capped in a vehicle in one round

[stoic ferry]

cap 10 bases in vehicle

[grizzled whale]

i run weapon of mass destruction

[stoic ferry]

in 1 round

[fierce gull]

is that a star wars reference

hmmm

all terrain tactician

dice has worked on star wars battlefront

[copper fulcrum]

Use a Transport Chopper

[stoic ferry]

gets killes 10000 times

[pine roost]

Dunno why it isn't split, it's nice to know how many i got myself and how many were stolen

[grizzled whale]

thats why i make sure to check my kills before the round ends

[copper fulcrum]

I don't really care about assists since they give you the same amount of score

[haughty dagger]

AFK team? Lol

[haughty dagger]

Not every kill was “stolen” lol. Same exp for either and it’s like the “counts as kill” from BF4 (I don’t know if this still exists in BF1/BFV)

[copper fulcrum]

I've had Battlefield V matches last 5 minutes

ironically, I've had a BF1 match last two

[grizzled whale]

what

[copper fulcrum]

the Battlefield V match was on Fjell
the Battlefield 1 match was on Amiens

The one on Fjell had all 6 bombers, JU-88As

[arctic grove]

[grizzled whale]

i have no clue what you mean

[copper fulcrum]

Fjell is that map on the mountain. Where you can have 6 planes in the sky at once.

[elder vector]

you on some full pepega shit rn

tf are you on about

[copper fulcrum]

What

Angel showed that he had a match last less than 10 minutes. I'm saying I've had matches end even quicker but in other Battlefield games. That's about it.

[arctic grove]

Lol now that's a battle

[arctic grove]

That what happens if you don't play objective it be the fastest game you ever played

[grizzled whale]

i read it wrong lol

i thought you said "i had BFV matches in the last 5 minutes"

[edgy oriole]

health repair is with the repair tool correct? or does it include vehicle self repair?

[restive saddle]

Repair tool

[edgy oriole]

damn. this will be hard with randos

[restive saddle]

Ehh just get a transport heli spawn in get in passenger

Just like old times

[olive lake]

Breakthrough changes...Wow. That changes a lot

[wide violet]

are they good or bad?

[olive lake]

I mean...I dunno. But I feel like there's a lot that could be done than just that.

The radio silence isn't doing favors either with people asking for improvements and they come out of nowhere with 'here's breakthrough changes kthxbye'

[wide violet]

I thought it was really random, they really need to communicate more

[olive lake]

An update on the XP progression system would be way more attention grabbing

[wide violet]

they just need to make a roadmap

[restive saddle]

XP is weird yeah

[olive lake]

And if you ask me, that's a minimal, yet very critical system

[wide violet]

it looks as if they just have ppl doing random tasks

[restive saddle]

But for the most part it seems to force doing well and doing a lot of things like spotting and such to boost the gains

[olive lake]

Of all the things to tackle though, there are better choices

[wide violet]

Agreed

[olive lake]

https://twitter.com/game_fabricator/status/1489094935743586304 Just gonna leave this post here since it shows some significant irony

[wide violet]

Things really dont look good from an outside perspective

[olive lake]

For someone high up in DICE and EA, they haven't shown much if not any love for PvE

Not trying to harass or anything but this does show actions speak bigger than words

[sharp marten]

Honestly they said they’d deliver a better experience in the summer and I’m going to hold them to that I personally have experienced stuff really bad with 2042 besides the lack of guns I wish we had a lot more guns

I don’t think they should’ve blamed halo tho I won’t ever let that down

[olive lake]

I just want them to finally focus on adding progression and unlocks to the PvE like AOW Solo/Co-op as it was a feature during day one

[wide violet]

Power to you for sticking to their words, I dont trust anything they say anymore

[olive lake]

Even Halo Infinite implemented an AI mode and that of all things had progression...So why can't 2042?

[sharp marten]

I mean we’re talking about the company who literally told their fans “if you don’t like it don’t buy it” then the game turned out pretty good

[ornate pollen]

Don't be sad, that's just how it works out sometimes

[wide violet]

Also they didnt blame halo, idk why ppl are saying that, the article clearly states that the higher ups feel we all think the game is bad is due to Halo Infinite releasing around the same time.

[olive lake]

Literally yeah. Halo is WAY more competitive and they didn't promise any PvE content and yet they gave it to us.

[wide violet]

which isnt true, 2042 sucks in general

[simple bison]

what pve are you talking about

[sharp marten]

I mean bf4 also had a bad start like a really really bad start

[olive lake]

The boot camp for Halo Infinite. It has AI and progression and it wasn't even something they promised before launch. They just threw it in. Hopefully Firefight will follow in due time

[sharp marten]

And bf4 in my personal opinion will go down as one of the best battlefields ever

[simple bison]

you dont get progression points. just stats for the round

[olive lake]

You can complete dailies though

[wide violet]

If what tom henderson stated in that town hall meeting is true you cant even compare the game to past bfs. If making the new frostbite engine that we are currently using took them 18months to make thats REALLY bad that we got 2042 in 2021

[simple bison]

hope its not the new engine. its worse than the old one

[wide violet]

with that ontop of the multiple game design changes, we shouldnt have had a game until 2025

[restive saddle]

You do actually

[wide violet]

we are using a new engine

[simple bison]

yikes. well its not good

[wide violet]

its due to the large player count which was tested in the past and shot down because it didnt work

2042 just reeks of piss poor management

[sharp marten]

It all goes down to time we’ll have to see what they deliver this summer I have hope for 2042 it’s not much but it’s a little

[olive lake]

Honestly I do feel like 2042 would be doing better if they didn't cap progression.

I'm a broken record about it I know and I don't care but that's all I care about.

I'll fight the whole damn community about it if I have to just to get it back.

[wide violet]

If youre willing to watch a speculation video check out Westies most recent video

[sharp marten]

Tbh they shouldn’t have done operators yeah it’s cool and all but come on

[olive lake]

I think Ops could have worked if they did it in the form of heroes and villains like in Battlefront

[wide violet]

specialists are an attempted cash grab imo

[ionic tulip]

Wym cap progression?

[fiery solar]

Specialists don’t change much imo. Not as bad as people make it seem

[olive lake]

AOW Solo/Co-op means you can't get weeklies, player card unlocks, full mastery or ribbons even though it was a feature day one

Same sort of applies to Portal too

[karmic cobalt]

Honestly tho. Portal really is their best mode, it sucks that they’ve limited us so much with it man

[olive lake]

Yeah and they could've easily restricted unfair progression if they had just restricted progression if AI are weaker than intended or reduce rewards earned based on the scale of handicap

[keen plank]

It has enough progression even now to get your weapons/vehicles to a usable state.

[olive lake]

Weapon attachments and vehicle stuff doesn't count. We should be earning everything like everyone else who paid for this overpriced game

[karmic cobalt]

Dumb as shit that we can’t even level stuff up in hardcore but they had that goddamn xp farm zombies mode that they introduced

[copper fulcrum]

[keen plank]

You want full and unrestricted progression back, doesn't mean it's gone.

[olive lake]

Agreed. Was such an insult to PvE players and hardcore players as it went against everything they capped in the first place

[olive lake]

Yeah I can believe in that. But the longer we wait, the more weeklies we miss out on which really sucks

I feel like that should be tackled more than freaking tickets in breakthrough

[keen plank]

Do you just not play the multiplayer at all?

[olive lake]

Nope and I refuse to. Its just not fun for me as every match feels too competitive for me and game communities these days when it comes to PvP is like swimming in a barrel of acid.

[copper fulcrum]

But, tickets are the sole part of the game.

[keen plank]

Then I'm thinking you kinda bought the wrong game

[copper fulcrum]

Tickets are literally the thing that decides who wins and loses a match.

[olive lake]

Well not really. They literally confirmed full progression across everything before launch

A lot of people bought it solely so they could enjoy the PvE option.

And it did exist during day one

[keen plank]

Like I do get it, I exploited the shit out of solo progress and even the one day zombie fiesta

[steep jewel]

If you bought a battlefield game solely for PVB then you gambled and lost.

[wise zodiac]

I mean, BF42, Vietnam, all the good old OG titles had bots.

[copper fulcrum]

Yes

There were some servers that had players vs bots and a good chunk of servers use bots because, well, not too many people play those games now

[keen plank]

But I also knew this was a game that is still multiplayer focused first and foremost. The level of progression you're allowed in PvE even now is greater than it has even been in past games. Battlefield has never allowed multiplayer rank/attachment progression until this game.

[steep jewel]

They had bots, but they didn't have fully fleshed out modes that feature objectives around them. Even in the campaign the bots are an afterthought

[arctic grove]

This is also the first BF game where you can earn something other then a level

[iron blade]

Hopefully they take the feedback into account and do a soft relaunch

[keen plank]

Aside from maybe a few select weapon/dog tag unlocks from doing the singleplayer campaigns. Back when it had them.

[steep jewel]

Apperently they dont use any social media platforms including discord and Reddit as serious worthwhile criticism

Or atleast they don't look through either for feedback

[keen plank]

But I can firmly say you made a mistake if you bought this purely as a singleplayer/pve experience.

[copper fulcrum]

Portal opens up a good amount of PVE possibilities

[keen plank]

Or it did

[steep jewel]

You just can't farm and boost for camos and shit anymore

[iron blade]

Still find it humorous that ea blamed halo for 2042s shitty launch

[copper fulcrum]

It still does.

[iron blade]

Where do they do this in person feedback, id like to take part

[steep jewel]

Ive heard better exuses in the Nuremberg trials

[iron blade]

Based

[copper fulcrum]

Do people only read that part or...?

[lavish adder]

is it just me or are the servers busted

[graceful island]

The latest communication the issue has been there since beta. The issue with the amount of tickets.

[fiery shoal]

i think people mix up open loadouts with speciliasts

[restive saddle]

Not for me, that was with BFV

[arctic grove]

Come on man, you really asking that question

[stoic ferry]

just u. played all day,. no problem.

[edgy oriole]

servers been busted since launch. first match of the day i got stuck in a 24v24 broken lobby lol

[fiery shoal]

not what happened

[copper fulcrum]

True.

[restive saddle]

Idk what's up with V though
I just can't play it without getting locked in place for more than half the match

[lavish adder]

idk im experiencing packet burst and ping

[arctic grove]

Lol Nyphon the menace is here

[steep jewel]

Oh shit guys it's Nyphon, everyone talk really slow

[fiery shoal]

sorry you guys dont that i call out your bs

[noble scaffold]

oh my

[copper fulcrum]

People like to play Operation when reading their articles

But they only go for the Wrenched Ankle part on the board

[arctic grove]

Dude I love your replies to ppl, shit is hilarious, you keep doing you homie

[graceful island]

Talk to talk slow about the state of the game. Idk if there is anything else that can be done to save 2042. It's dead in the water 🤣

Dice or EA has not communicated anything about our observations

[queen depot]

Please don't stop, you're doing great

[graceful island]

Avoiding backlash by saying nothing at all

[steep jewel]

It's pretty easy

[fiery shoal]

i mean, they dont have any solutions for anything as of now, so they are screwed by saying "we got nothing" and screwed if they say nothing

[steep jewel]

So why not blame halo? Makes sense to me

[fiery shoal]

i see you only read clickbait titles

what exactly did EA blame halo for?

[fierce gull]

They blamed for uhhhh

[steep jewel]

I didn't even have to read any articles

[fierce gull]

Looks at the article
Uhhhh
Looks at the memes on Twitter
For messing up

[fiery shoal]

even this would have been better than what he really did... which is nothing

[steep jewel]

They actually said halo was partially to blame in a townhall meeting.

I wonder if I can find the exact quote

[fiery shoal]

you cant

[arctic grove]

Like you mean how they stole the playerbase

[fiery shoal]

because its a tom henderson synopsis

[fierce gull]

What is team skybox

[graceful island]

I read it, it's halarious

[steep jewel]

Yeah they literally said it in a meeting, they blamed the pandemic, halo, lack of internal focus and a few other things. They didn't come out and publically say this

[graceful island]

CEOs CIOs wanted to launch the game regardless

[steep jewel]

There exists no online quotation where they directly blame halo

But that's just as good as it not existing at all I suppose

[fiery shoal]

"2042 released with the franchises normal amount of bugs, but since halo infinite released in a very polished state we look worse in comparison"
a more accurate synopsis of why EA compared halo to 2042

[dapper falcon]

its funny how they don't admit they flopped so hard

[fiery shoal]

2nd best selling bf title in the first week

[restive saddle]

And fastest player drop off

But admittedly that's because of the hype as well

[graceful island]

100,000 players to 2,000

[fiery shoal]

we have absolutely no numbers to support this at all... hell we only have steam numbers right now which isnt even the whole picture

[dapper falcon]

thats just the financial aspect of it

[steep jewel]

Yeah even that quote I'd say that's an attempt at shifting blame

[dapper falcon]

• all the marketing invested

[fiery shoal]

its more of a realization that they cant keep releasing bf games in a bad state like they have before, because now you get games like halo that are f2p and extremely polished

[steep jewel]

Games don't really hold the same numbers as the launch week so using steam charts is a poor way of gauging player interest

[arctic grove]

What about new world

[steep jewel]

Yeah you right

[arctic grove]

its the toxic community fault

[fiery shoal]

halo infinite lost 1% less of its player count compared to 2042

[graceful island]

Yup

[restive saddle]

C'mon, I see majority PC players and there are only 1-2 servers in Portal with more than 2 people at average when I check

[arctic grove]

Because it's free and children will do anything for cosmetics

[fiery shoal]

still isnt proof of anything... we didnt even get steam numbers for previous titles at launch...

[graceful island]

Just like Any other free to play

There's cosmetics to buy

[fiery shoal]

i have no idea what this has to do with 2042 and infinite player retention...

[steep jewel]

Currently on steam halo has almost 10,000 players, Battlefield has like what, 3000?

And halo lost a percentage less in terms of initial launch numbers, something that ALWAYS decreases months after release and dwindles down to a fraction of what it was.

Halo is free, BF is 60 dollars

[fiery shoal]

roughly, infinites main source of pc players is very likely steam, which i would assume some 80-90% of people playing halo use steam (i think the other pc launcher option is windows)... where i would assume origin at least has equal parts pc players as steam

[graceful island]

Or 120 if you bought the ultimate edition lll

[steep jewel]

I'd imagine there's less than a thousand people playing it on the Xbox launcher

[arctic grove]

1 million on the first day

[tacit plover]

Nooooooooooooo TDM come back 😄

[arctic grove]

10k now

I think

[hard plume]

How’s the new ticket system on breakthrough?

[fiery shoal]

... what

[naive quiver]

This is what When you joined a AI server

[vivid nacelle]

They lowered tickets for attacking teams

[hard plume]

Does it feel balanced?

Or better i guess

[fallen yarrow]

Ya, because servers were not filling up...so attackers had a big advantage since they had plenty of tickets to win

[vivid nacelle]

Dont know, but i see why they did it, gonna play in an hour to see for myself

[hard plume]

Kk ding me of what you think, wont be able to play for quite some time, any shooters really

[scenic tartan]

BREAKTHROUGH IS BACK BABY

[restive saddle]

PC is the most broad Platform more or less, Sony consoles are more for outside the US as a preference and Xbox is preferred within the US

[vivid nacelle]

Was it gone?

[wide violet]

does that new update actually fix anything?

i havent heard anyone complain about tickets

[steep jewel]

Did you get grounded?

[restive saddle]

And I'm not seeing a lotta Xbox players in US servers of 2042, majority are PC

[hard plume]

An operation, so can’t use a hand for awhile

[vivid nacelle]

F

[steep jewel]

Shit bro I hope it heals well

[fallen yarrow]

Probably because they disabled crossplay

[hard plume]

So sad, especially with horizon out

[copper fulcrum]

It's funny to watch G*mers cry over that game

[restive saddle]

I would have to disable that to check but another game I have played disabled features for not having it enabled

[hard plume]

Fuck, me too. It’ll be alright

[hard plume]

Really? Why they crying? Is it the beard?

[copper fulcrum]

Yes the 'beard' and the 'chubby' face

[hard plume]

Lol, fucking gamers

[copper fulcrum]

and the 'masculine' features

[hard plume]

Clearly they never met a woman before

[dapper falcon]

there's a reason why there has been no numbers available for the public lmao

[fiery shoal]

other than steam theres hardly ever any sources for player count... this isnt unique to 2042 because its bad...

[restive saddle]

If you don't have an Xbox or PS (I guess idk I don't have a PS)

But generally PC tends to have the higher player counts of a Battlefield game

Or, well, for a lot of games

[dapper falcon]

its still bad though

[restive saddle]

The console amounts tend to be half or less of that of the PC player counts

[tawdry bobcat]

Battlefield Exodus 2042 players online

I mean in the promotional trailers they were right this game was a Exodus

[wide violet]

zing

[fallen yarrow]

It's not DICE or EA's fault that no one is playing 2042. Blame Halo Infinite

[hard plume]

What’s the original article?

[steep jewel]

There are many, but they reverberate something that was said in person in a meeting, nothing that was outright published online by an EA representative

[hard plume]

A tale as old as time. Cmon guys, be original

[elder vector]

you guys think that this game can pull a no mans sky and recover?

[glacial thistle]

No

[steep jewel]

I think it can, just depends on what happens this summer

[restive saddle]

If they do it right

[hard plume]

They did it with bf4 and 5 so sure

[fallen yarrow]

That would require skill and passion...both of which are lacking

[elder vector]

those games had a lot better core then this game tho

[steep jewel]

Were they supposed to release a patch in March?

[restive saddle]

I don't remember Battlefield 4 having issues other than glitch spots and Dawnbreaker

[hard plume]

What does that even mean, do you even know?

[elder vector]

the core game was a fucking battlefield game not a mix of apex and cod with a sprinkle of bf

[fallen yarrow]

It means the games were good to begin with. Even if they fix the technical issues of 2042, it's still a bad game

[hard plume]

It was literally unplayable for a lot of people, like severs sucked

[restive saddle]

Where's the Apex and CoD elements exactly?

[fallen yarrow]

But you already knew that, you're just trying to act cool

[elder vector]

do i really need to point that out

[hard plume]

That’s very vague

[steep jewel]

I try to act cool all the time. Doesn't really work...

[restive saddle]

Yeah, cause you could be referring to something that isn't unique to them.

[fallen yarrow]

Maybe to someone who hasn't played past battlefield games

[scenic tartan]

There are so many matches where attackers go into the final point with 600 tickets

And they only went down to 500 or more the point before

[tawdry bobcat]

Lol

[fiery shoal]

i mean the main core of a bf title is in 2042

[scenic tartan]

Reddit talking point #65 - call the game an apex clone
Reddit talking point #11 - call the game a call of duty clone

[restive saddle]

Mass PvP which also shifted towards destruction in later titles
The destruction of 2042 regressed yet again as has been done since 4/Hardline more or less

[fiery shoal]

if only i were playing bingo

[scenic tartan]

The game has too many vehicles!! It's an apex/call of duty clone!!!!

[hard plume]

How do you know i never played any past bf games? Spying on me? Cause if you are you’re doing a shit job at it

[tawdry bobcat]

but seriously it looks like dice went out of their way to make the game resemble Call of Duty in the animations.

[restive saddle]

Specialists were done before CoD/Apex

[fallen yarrow]

Core Battlefield: Combined arms (Infantry + Vehicles), somewhat balanced gameplay. Class-based infantry with strengths and weaknesses to each class. Maps that allowed all playstyles.

[turbid beacon]

So the devs abandoned this game aye

[fiery shoal]

rather extreme just because i dont share the same raging hate for a game that you do...

[scenic tartan]

The game doesn't have a small infantry focused map like operation locker that plays like Nuketown!! It's a call of duty clone!!!!!!

[fallen yarrow]

No, assumed it based on what you were typing. Either you're ignorant or completely clueless. So it was a fair assumption

[fiery shoal]

"legally" they cant yet, they have to do first year of content at least

[tawdry bobcat]

but Specialists were popularized by Call of Duty and Apex tho.
Rainbow Six Siege doesn't count

[turbid beacon]

Lmao.

Never buying another bf game.

[fiery shoal]

fair

[hard plume]

You even play 2042?

[scenic tartan]

You want a medal? Now go back to Reddit

[elder vector]

oops

[turbid beacon]

No one going to buy next bf.

[tawdry bobcat]

metals are for those who have money I only have rocks and dirt

[fallen yarrow]

Not anymore....not until they fix it. But yes, I played it enough to form an opinion. Tried all weapons, all vehicles, all maps and all game modes.

[turbid beacon]

All they do his make a decent trailer and hype the game up lol. Greedy devs

[fiery shoal]

millions of casuals will just because the trailer is cool

[restive saddle]

Though here I'd still technically class it as a Psuedo-Class thing
Since they still specialize in the things they're meant to be doing
Assault Operators still use offensive based equipment
Medics still use medical based abilities
Angel resupplies
Scouts still have scouting focus

[scenic tartan]

The open loadout concept is the same thing as classes except you dont have limitation on what weapon you use based on what gadget you want

[tawdry bobcat]

You know what the sad part is? the marketing team knows what the battlefield Community wants but the dev team doesn't.

[scenic tartan]

It's really not that big a deal

[turbid beacon]

Company must be sued for stealing peoples money especially during this pandemic

[fiery shoal]

id say the main core is combined arms on massive maps, we hope for balance, other titles apparently didnt have classes, and 2042 has maps that allow all playstyles, even though thats weird because previous titles have had infantry only maps which doesnt allow for all playstyles...

[tawdry bobcat]

this is EA/DICE were talking about they know how to cover their ass legally

[fiery shoal]

the game functions, beyond that theres likely nothing that can be legally done about the game as long as they release year one content

[scenic tartan]

It is a lie to say that they stole money from anyone btw

[restive saddle]

Still funny just how much damage the S21 medic pistol does to an enemy

[turbid beacon]

I mean what were the devs doing for the past 3-4 years.

Buggy arse game ffs

[fallen yarrow]

Being able to play infantry in one corner or building of a huge map is not what I would call 'supporting multiple' playstyles.

[scenic tartan]

What does it matter? The game is what it is and its being worked on why are you dwelling on it

[fiery shoal]

and having infantry only maps isnt either...

[tawdry bobcat]

I mean I want to know where the 2 billion dollar budget went but hey we don't always get the answers

[turbid beacon]

Worked on? You joking right lmao

[fallen yarrow]

It is though, it allows infantry players to play and enjoy the game while there are still plenty of other maps that have other vehicle types

[scenic tartan]

They released an update just today, your trolling is below low tier

[kind imp]

Where is everyone been waiting fopr a match to happen for the past 2 days

[turbid beacon]

You really think they going to fix it hahah. They had 3 years and you saying they going to fix the game in months lmao

[wise zodiac]

Metals come from rock and dirt though.

[elder vector]

nyphon must be a dice dev on an alt account cause this man only defends this game and points made against it

[turbid beacon]

Bf cry baby spotted.

[fiery shoal]

so youre trying to say that a map that can host everything, though one aspect off to the side, is worse than a map that doesnt support everything... that wasnt how your criteria worked

[fallen yarrow]

Most of the people who like 2042 are on discord defending it. You're rarely see them in game though

[tawdry bobcat]

Honestly I got another question if they had the completely redesigned frostbite for this game why not just make a new engine so that way the people working on it would know how to work on it?

[scenic tartan]

Are you harassing me because I like the game?

[turbid beacon]

And you harassing me because I don’t?

[fiery shoal]

i dont even defend the game, i mostly call out blatant lies or shit that cant be legitimized

[fallen yarrow]

I meant a game that allows for all playstyles to have fun. If I specified each map needs to support ALL playstyles, then that's my bad.

[restive saddle]

Games have always been buggy, it's just that now we can fix them

[wise zodiac]

Now now. How about we cool it.

[scenic tartan]

No I'm responding to your low effort copy paste trolls

[tawdry bobcat]

That was the joke. just trying to represent your average redditors intelligence

[wise zodiac]

[elder vector]

nah let em fight it out its entertaining

[turbid beacon]

Likewise. Responding back to a cry baby

[elder vector]

this discord thread is 10x more entertaining that the game no cap

[wise zodiac]

Let's not tho.

[fiery shoal]

it was rather vague, i could have interpreted it off as well

[elder vector]

😦

[tawdry bobcat]

This

[fallen yarrow]

Agreed, you can't even chat with the opposing side in the game

[wise zodiac]

@turbid beacon @scenic tartan, again, let's knock it off.

[elder vector]

all chat might hurt peoples feelings and we cant have that in 2022

[tawdry bobcat]

shotgun players get screwed if they don't want to sit on 1 sector the entire game

[fiery shoal]

what was the last bf game to have all chat? im almost certain bfv didnt

[turbid beacon]

Alright. Am cool. Tell him not to tag me no more

[tawdry bobcat]

bfv had all chat

[fallen yarrow]

BFV definitely has all chat. All battlefield games in recent history had all chat

[scenic tartan]

[slim quiver]

BFV has all chat

[fiery shoal]

wtfrick, i could have been shit talking the enemy team this whole time?!

[turbid beacon]

Cry baby

[elder vector]

even Battlefront 2 has all chat

[tawdry bobcat]

I was playing it a few weeks ago and some guy on the enemy team said I look like Beavis from Beavis and Butthead.

[fiery shoal]

im sad now

[fallen yarrow]

They also had this advanced technology where you could toggle the chat channels between Squad - Team - All.

[elder vector]

pog they finally fixed the 1hp issue on battlefront 2 tho S/O the dice members that fixed it

[elder vector]

and even more advanced, switching squads option in the menu

[fallen yarrow]

Also a functioning kill feed

[turbid beacon]

Bf devs should take a break.

[scenic tartan]

I think that all chat removed is probably for the best

It often got misused in bf4/bfv to turn into arguments

[turbid beacon]

And come back with something new and fresh

[fallen yarrow]

A kill feed that was somehow functioning in BF2042 beta but didn't make it into final release. Like.....how????

[tawdry bobcat]

in the grand scheme of things they probably didn't add it because of "toxicity" the irony is that the removal has cause the most toxicity I've ever seen in the battlefield community.

[turbid beacon]

Haha

[tawdry bobcat]

it's a rated M for Mature game so I don't get it

[scenic tartan]

People would accuse others of cheating or argue over their k/d and get shitty instead of playing the game

[tawdry bobcat]

are people just more childish nowadays? oh yeah they are

[scenic tartan]

I don't know what all chat adds to the game they are randos

[fallen yarrow]

Totally, team chat in 2042 was way more toxic than all chat in previous battlefield games. They already had the functionality where people to toggle the chat channels to only show team chat. Why remove all chat? Why not add the feature to mute/ignore players in game like other normal games have

[scenic tartan]

There's no reason to need to interact with the enemy team

[restive saddle]

Pretty sure 2042 still has all chat doesn't it
Idk I've seen messages from people I never saw

[fallen yarrow]

Then don't. But let other people interact with enemy team if they want to.

[tawdry bobcat]

Maybe a sense of community? I mean part of the fun of online video games as being able to shit talk your enemy team.

[wise zodiac]

Ain't wrong

[scenic tartan]

If it's a negative only feature then cut it. Right decision

[fallen yarrow]

You could have a hilarious shoot out with an enemy. You could acknowledge a good shot from an enemy. So many other interactions that I'm not going to list out

[fallen yarrow]

It's not a negative only feature though? Where are you getting that from?

[scenic tartan]

And if you wanted to keep chat on to hear from teammates that don't have mic you also have to deal with people arguing with each other across teams..

[fierce gull]

But who am I gonna shit talk

[tawdry bobcat]

honestly the battlefield Community might be pretty toxic right now but at least we're nowhere near fortnite or GTA.

[wise zodiac]

But who am I gonna "gg"

[slim quiver]

do people shit talk in a BF game

[wise zodiac]

Yes

[scenic tartan]

Can you still all chat in portal servers?

[slim quiver]

does anyone think it has merit?

[fallen yarrow]

All game communities have toxic individuals. You can't just keep removing communication features because of that. People have invited ignore/mute functionality since decades...use that!

[restive saddle]

Very

[wise zodiac]

I tell people to quit qq'ing all the time l

[tawdry bobcat]

it seems like console players are having a hard time finding lobbies without cross play

[slim quiver]

It just seems weird to shit talk in a BF game

[fiery shoal]

all the time

[restive saddle]

I remember getting messages from a guy on the enemy team in 4 just because I used flashbangs in a CQC map

[slim quiver]

its not really a game that tests skill

[iron blade]

Yeah, had some guy claim i was hacking on ps4 BF1, ig I destroyed him too many times lmfao

[edgy oriole]

known issue. been happening since launch

[tawdry bobcat]

no it really test your skills in grammar let me tell you

[restive saddle]

Like the man really hated that I was flashing him and eventually started to automatically suicide every time he got hit by them

[tawdry bobcat]

You misspelled something once and the entire lobbies tearing you to pieces

[fiery shoal]

but its just amazing how stupid people can be in game... literally 20/32 people on your team running in one massive group only holding 1 point at a time.. i have to say something

[wise zodiac]

I have my 32 man team on Breakthrough hold one point.

[restive saddle]

Dude eventually ended up leaving with a few messages
It was funny to me.

[wise zodiac]

[iron blade]

Getting called a hacker in a game is like the biggest compliment u could ever get

[slim quiver]

idk im surprised people get that worked up about the game

[tawdry bobcat]

I'm convinced like 50% of Battlefield lobbies are stoned.

[fiery shoal]

i really dont care about the win, im genuinely concerned how people can be so dense

[slim quiver]

some people idk they just play how they play

luckily bf is casual

[restive saddle]

I really don't know why you would get mad at someone for using flashbangs of all things
I don't even remember them actually doing much in 4 other than some degree of blindness but not complete

[wise zodiac]

Or so you think

[fiery shoal]

yea if it was ranked i would go mental

[tawdry bobcat]

Battlefield 4 ain't casual everybody in that game is fucking trying hard

[slim quiver]

is bf not a casual game?

[slim quiver]

the game design itself is pretty casual

[fallen yarrow]

Impossible to have a ranked mode in battlefield for the regular game modes.

5v5 infantry only is not battlefield

[slim quiver]

correct

[tawdry bobcat]

honestly I don't like the over casualisation of video games it just leads the shallow mechanics

[slim quiver]

which i will say again

"the design is casual"

[restive saddle]

Ehh... The only thing I can think of is those max level helicopter guys who never exist if you have a single stinger because they're too afraid of getting hit once.

[fiery shoal]

large player count and no ranked modes are all you need to know that its casual

[fallen yarrow]

That's because flares didn't work for the first few months, and the stinger would fire 2 rockets that one-shotted all air vehicles (except the transports)

[slim quiver]

meh well the thing is thats what the series is

[tawdry bobcat]

I hate the assholes who sit in fucking little birds and vipers all day.

[restive saddle]

So do i

[unborn heart]

Battlefield, in terms of design, has always been on casual side and that's fine in itself

[fallen yarrow]

That's two different things really - not having a ranked/competitive mode doesn't meant that the game should have a low skill floor and low skill ceiling

[mossy badge]

cod gunfight mode is cool

[fiery shoal]

i think it would be a waste of time to make the game more complex considering how bad/dumb people generally are already at bf games...

[fallen yarrow]

While battlefield as game was casual, it always had a high skill ceiling in terms of most mechanics compared to other shooters in the past (Having to account for bullet velocity/drop, dealing with vehicles, learning to fly, etc.)

[restive saddle]

When the helicopter pilot flips over on takeoff

[tawdry bobcat]

I would like Battlefield to have a higher skill ceiling like in mechanical skill and shit like that. current mechanics feel shallow if you played the game for 5 hours you already know how to use the movement to its limits

[bleak ferry]

This game is cool

[slim quiver]

hey thanks

[fallen yarrow]

I don't think it necessarily takes more time to make it complex. For example look at chopper flight mechanics between BF4 and 2042. It's WAAAAAY easier in 2042

[slim quiver]

thats kind of the idea of jumping in though with a ton of people and fighting around

learning maps and other elements has a ceiling of its own

otherwise we would all be as good as one another really

theres a ceiling, but it doesnt take as much to get to the basics

[tawdry bobcat]

all I want is Titanfall 3 now ):

the movement in that game was so beautiful

[fallen yarrow]

@slim quiver skill floor is low, which is fine. Doesn't mean the skill ceiling needs to be low. If people put in more time to get better at the game, they should see some rewards for their efforts. Otherwise people get bored of games quickly

[slim quiver]

what rewards do you have in mind

[unborn heart]

Funny thing here is

Currently most praised Battlefield of the decade, 4, easily also had the most basic and straightforward gunplay

[dusty raft]

Just here to see if people are enjoying this game...

[fallen yarrow]

Like if you practice flying or sniping, you eventually get significantly better at it than the average player and can 'outskill' them in those regards. If there's not much of a skill ceiling, everyone is on similar level no matter how much time and effort they've put into becoming better.

[frigid scroll]

Every game I go into in rush now has a maximum of about 5 players Jesus this game died I’m trynna give it a chance but I can’t even do that anymore the player base is too small

[grizzled whale]

lies

[mental cave]

skill is an immeasurable thing because skill is infinite, could you elaborate in what what you're trying to say?

[mossy badge]

people want SBMM in battlefield

[tawdry bobcat]

the movement wasn't straightforward though good BF4 players can fly around the map

[fallen yarrow]

The medbag movement exploit was kinda cringe though, I'd rather not see 'mechanics' like that

[scenic tartan]

Yeah Bf is a casual game to have fun in. I only get tilted in breakthrough sometimes because bad teams mean you pretty much cant play the game

But last night I had a fun time with some people just holding f1 and f2 the whole game on breakaway(the ice map I think)

We lost but it was still fun

[fiery shoal]

that just makes no sense..

[scenic tartan]

Oh is this why people say they can't get matches? Because they play rush or some portal mode that has lower population then just say the whole game is dead?

I think probably 90+% of the players are in AOW

[frigid scroll]

Rush is the most universally loved game mode in btf history tho it’s never empty

[mental cave]

well it is empty

[scenic tartan]

I think it's just a matter of menu placement if rush was in AOW menu people might play it more

[mental cave]

nobody plays portal, that shit trash

[mossy badge]

i am always a lonewolf in battlefield and i never cared of winning if i win its ok if i loose its ok

[fallen yarrow]

What I mean is someone spending time to learn the bullet velocity and drop of a sniper rifle in battlefield will be better at using it as opposed to a brand new player. This is a good thing. If all snipers were hitscan with no bullet drop, then both the players would easily be able to hit shots...and it doesn't separate the skill level in that specific situation. Having skill ceiling which allows players to improve and see results is a good thing for game health

[mossy badge]

and i dont care about teammates but its always cool to see lots of players running together

i dont blame team at all 🤣

[mental cave]

ok so, short version, you mean you want stuff to be harder to do?

[fallen yarrow]

Yes, short version: There should be certain mechanics in the game (not every single thing) that are hard. It should feel rewarding for spending time/effort in mastering those hard mechanics.

[mental cave]

yes I get you now

[slim quiver]

idk i think sniping is the weakest point of BF

[arctic grove]

Wfield 2042

[slim quiver]

its easily the largest turn off for sniping for me is a BF game's idea of snipers

[grizzled whale]

why

[arctic grove]

Wind speed

Rotation and curvature of earth

[mental cave]

imagine having to go through sniper school just to snipe in battlefield

[arctic grove]

Most of an actual snipers time is spent doing anything but shooting and then hella calculating before a single shot

[fallen yarrow]

I think battlefield's sniping is decent. As long as the snipers don't have abysmal bullet velocity. You still need to deal with bullet speed, drop and enemy movement while sniping. Also, only headshots are one-shot kills. It's a good middle ground between hitscan and sniper simulator.

[arctic grove]

That’s a nightmare to imagine

[mental cave]

and its usually 2 guys, a spotter and a shooter

[fallen yarrow]

Not a fan of the one-shot body snipers in battlefield games (Like the NTW)

[unborn heart]

Good concept 1 and V had for sniping was strong drag coefficient

[arctic grove]

That damn gun man

[unborn heart]

Which pushed people into sniping from ranges where they were, well, not a complete waste of a server slot

[arctic grove]

It literally outclasses anything in short to mid range if you’re good enough

[grizzled whale]

At this distance, you also have to take Coriolis effect into account

[fallen yarrow]

BFV's sniping was really good. 2042 feels decent as well with the DXR. But only 2 snipers in the game currently....

[grim stump]

GVT is best gun if you're good enough

[mental cave]

doesn't one shot anymore if you aren't like 50ft away, its kinda terrible now

[arctic grove]

The sniping is fun in 2042 but I die a little more inside when I hit marker someone and they fly away

[mossy badge]

i love when snipers are 1 shot kill on body not on legs and hands

[unborn heart]

2042 snipers are waaay stronger than V ones, it shows when you look at typical engagement range

[fallen yarrow]

Really? last I checked it one-shot up to 100+ m

[mossy badge]

like in COD

[grizzled whale]

the GVT is great for mid range, but long range those headshots are hard to get

[mental cave]

idk I've been shooting guys literally a couple steps away and its like a tictac thumping them

[grizzled whale]

NTW is still 1 shot up to 200m

[arctic grove]

At the end of the day since all guns shoot bullets any gun can be your perception of the best gun

[fallen yarrow]

If they have armor, it's not a one-shot

[arctic grove]

I didn’t even think of using armor to counter ntw users

[mental cave]

to be honest with it being 20 years in the future I'd hope guns are powerful enough to keep a straight line for a couple extra yards

[arctic grove]

Too much spread on guns too early imo

[grim stump]

In the future we get rid of rifling apparently for how dog shit the accuracy is in bf2042 for most guns

[fallen yarrow]

Also NTW has the biggest bullet drop for some reason, despite the in-game description saying it's good for 1km+ sniping. The gun is barely useable at 500m unless the target is stationary

[arctic grove]

Your guns not gonna start shooting everything AROUND the barrel unless you ran it till you could physically see the barrel heating up

[arctic grove]

Yea what’s up with that

[fiery shoal]

when ww2 weapons are most accurate according to bf games...

granted thats more of an evolution of gun mechanics than anything

[slim quiver]

the last thing i want to happen is have to aim 4 inches above a moving target to hit them with a sniper while i watch the bullet travel in motion

[arctic grove]

[mossy badge]

by using McMillan Tac-50 a canadian soldier killed a terrorist who was standing 3,540 m (3,871 yd)

[fiery shoal]

not like gaming is to be held to real life...

[fallen yarrow]

BFV Kar98k is probably my favorite sniper out of all Battlefield games, followed by SRR-61 and M98B (BF4/3)

[arctic grove]

I always ran SRR61 and M98 on 4 too

[fierce gull]

It would jack shit op

[fiery shoal]

after 5.2 (i think) snipers were really fucking good/fun

[arctic grove]

Where patch plz dice

[cinder stone]

(In Angels voice) That was a suprising Halo launch eh?

[fierce gull]

When I used the NTW I realized how op it would have been if it didn't have that huge bullet drop

[arctic grove]

Dont be sad, this just how it works out sometimes

[mossy badge]

i wonder how much drop that soldier felt 🤔

[arctic grove]

How much drop the soldier fet?

[fierce gull]

Shit would have been broken in maps like manifest

[cinder stone]

next month lmao, to ensure DICE lvl quality

[fallen yarrow]

The thing with NTW is...they used the wrong balancing approach in my opinion. They should have kept a tolerable bullet drop and velocity. But make it 95 damage against infantry instead of 100+ damage.

[grim stump]

Probably like 3-4 seconds

[arctic grove]

If you’re talking about the sniper there’s a good chance he was staring at his target for like several seconds before the bullet hit tbh

[mossy badge]

u can always balance a sniper by adding more ads time

[mossy badge]

too much delay he must have felt 🤣

[arctic grove]

That combined with its slow re chamber speed would’ve given plenty of time to counter fire or move

[mossy badge]

what do u think he was aiming above his body or on his body the distance to the enemy was 3.54 kms

[fallen yarrow]

Yeah, and NTW is supposed to be an anti-vehicle sniper. So why make it so good against infantry in the first place. Balancing damage against vehicles is another thing, since literally anybody can equip the NTW (along with an ammo crate as well) because of the class-less system.

[arctic grove]

People would have find it ridiculous a bullet made to disable engine blocks wasn’t going through flesh like butter I guess (which it is)

[fierce gull]

I mean if it's anti material
It can also anti material ur ass

[mossy badge]

no doubt

[arctic grove]

Probably evaporate you

[fallen yarrow]

DICE dug their own grave with these game design choices, but some people want to keep defending it because 'muh sandbox freedom'. It's so hard to balance the game now. I think they should have kept the NTW as a specialist gadget (with limited ammo), and have it be effective against vehicles

[arctic grove]

That would’ve been cool, a specialist who’s ability is the ntw

[fierce gull]

With different ammo types

Explosive bullets
Gun for Casper

If it's just the NTW with normal bullets
Ass specialist

[sullen wadi]

Hey guys on PS4 Join My Hardcore server R3AL Hardcore

[grizzled whale]

An antimateriel rifle will destroy your body (50bmg on the left for comparison)

[arctic grove]

i wish they add team/squad change

I feel bad for any soul who has ever been in the crosshairs of anything chambered in that

[fierce gull]

Quick death

[arctic grove]

They are actually, they’re working on ways to both reward and influence more teamwork in a future update

[mossy badge]

[grizzled whale]

SPLAT

[fallen yarrow]

Unless the sniper is a noob at shot the hands or legs off instead of chest/head

[fierce gull]

Slow death

But you would probably pass out

[arctic grove]

great

[fallen yarrow]

Honestly DICE should have released some content (like guns, maybe even a map) during this downtime, while continuing to fix the game. They could have retained more players if they had done that.

[arctic grove]

If y haven’t already make sure to check up on #direct-communication and read their previous announcements, it might restore your hope in 2042, I’m hyped to see the updates coming in March to summer

[frigid ferry]

cope

[fierce gull]

I want more information on the new portal tools and changes to gunplay in March

[arctic grove]

or a new update to portal adding bf4 soldiers etc.

[iron blade]

Id rather have BF vietnam added to portal, bf4 is just meh, some bf4 maps would be cool tho

[arctic grove]

or bf2

[iron blade]

Yeah

[tender folio]

[iron blade]

Bf4 is pretty much just bf3.5

[tender folio]

BF2 ❤️

[arctic grove]

ye

[iron blade]

Its a fun game, but just nothing groundbreaking and doesnt stand out

[arctic grove]

levolutions were great back in 2013

[iron blade]

Yeah, levolution was actually gonna be in bf1 with a rock slide on Monte Grappa

[arctic grove]

I personally find 4 more enjoyable than 3 cause 4 is yeah pretty much just 3.5

I like 3s story mode more though

[iron blade]

Bf4s campaign was awful

[arctic grove]

bf bc2 has the best story in whole of battlefield franchise (its only my opinion)

[nova torrent]

No you're right

[iron blade]

Bfv last tiger was my fav bf campaign

[nova torrent]

BC2's campaign is actually so amazing

[fallen yarrow]

I like BFV Last Tiger

[arctic grove]

ye

[gusty jasper]

Battlefield try not to have a mediocre campaign challenge... IMPOSSIBLE

[nova torrent]

I uniroinically cried at the end of the last tiger

[iron blade]

All i want in a bf game is basically a bf3/4 type game, with bfvs nice movement, and the atmosphere and grittyness and nice map design of BF1

[fallen yarrow]

Remember guys, don't be a Schroeder

[gusty jasper]

Not the map design of BF3?

[iron blade]

Bf3 map design was really good, im just a sucker for bf1 lol

[jade merlin]

Sound design too

[gusty jasper]

BF1 sound design

[fallen yarrow]

Honestly, that's what most of the fanbase was expecting from BF2042 based on the reveal trailer + dev tweets that they're improving upon BFV's gunplay and movement for BF2042

[iron blade]

So good it got a reward

[gusty jasper]

They just needed to give weapons recoil patterns without making it random

[jade merlin]

Bro I've tried to queue this game for like 5 times and THERE ARE NO PLAYERS

[gusty jasper]

BFV was on the edge of having the best gunplay in the franchise

[nova torrent]

Based

[arctic grove]

Brutal expectations mate

[iron blade]

Yeah ur right, and its halos fault

[fallen yarrow]

Instead, at launch we got the least complete battlefield game, hitreg and spread from the year 2012 and some of the most un-fun maps this franchise has known

[arctic grove]

Yeah try hardline it has only 1 server full sometimes

[iron blade]

Hopefully the phantom program comes back for 2042

[jade merlin]

Time to move back to 1

[gusty jasper]

Like beta BF2042 gunplay was arguably the best gunplay we've had

[nova torrent]

hardline's death is so sad honestly

[gusty jasper]

No bloom, just varying vertical recoil

[nova torrent]

It's such a good game at its core

[iron blade]

Kinda wanna get HL, but ik its ded af

[fallen yarrow]

I think hardline would have succeeded more as a game if it didn't have 'battlefield' in its title

[arctic grove]

ye its sadly underrated

[gusty jasper]

Hardline was literally improved BF4 gameplay wise

[stuck gust]

They really be out here blaming halo for their failures

[jade merlin]

Facts

[stuck gust]

100%, it was a solid game, just not a great battlefield.

[nova torrent]

Ye even then its gameplay is very VERY similar to BF4

[fallen yarrow]

Also the fact that it released so soon after BF4, (and at which point we already played similar modern-setting battlefield shooters for years leading up to it)

[gusty jasper]

There was almost nothing that stood out as bad in Hardline besides the theme

[arctic grove]

it didint fit to the battlefield franchise cuz of the missing tanks etc

[gusty jasper]

Even then I enjoyed the theme a lot

no tanks and jet was def something too

[nova torrent]

TTK was a bit obnoxious

[iron blade]

I wish that bf1 got more dlc. If it didnt have random bullet deviation, it would be probably be the most solid game in the series.

[gusty jasper]

In what way

[iron blade]

Fast af

[jade merlin]

It's always the random bullet bullet deviation lmao

[gusty jasper]

I felt it was lot more consistent because BF4 was a literal hitmarker simulator

[nova torrent]

idk it felt like hardcore was always on

[iron blade]

Yeah, I personally dont mind it, I learned to counter it

[jade merlin]

I just don't use lmg

[arctic grove]

i know this is off topic but the map design in bf2042 is just bad

[iron blade]

100%

[nova torrent]

Yep

[gusty jasper]

Orbital is fine

[noble scaffold]

anyone know how high from your target you gave to get the McKay “kills from hight advantage”

[gusty jasper]

I will always stan Orbital

[jovial furnace]

Battlefield 2042 is arguably the best battlefield 👀

[iron blade]

Funny how orbital was hated during the beta but turns out its the best map

[gusty jasper]

Do you play vehicles?

[fallen yarrow]

Not sure, but it also counts vehicle kills from helicopters, air transports and planes

[arctic grove]

true

[jade merlin]

Ok it's not as bad as people make it seem

[fallen yarrow]

That would be a very poor argument

[nova torrent]

Bruh have you ever played any other BF games before

[jovial furnace]

I like 5 a bit better, but I just don’t see peoples obsession with 4 and 1 lmao

[iron blade]

1 is built different

[jade merlin]

I like it but for me it's 1

[jovial furnace]

I played 4 and 1 a crap ton. Then found 5 and I love it. 2042 is my close second

[jade merlin]

Bruh I deleted 5 after 2 hours

Cop that steam refund

[nova torrent]

5 is fun just had a lot of flaws

[jade merlin]

The UI drives me

[fallen yarrow]

V's biggest flaw is the lack of anti-cheat

[arctic grove]

i personaly dont like the ww1/ww2 theme but bf1 and bfV are not bad

[jovial furnace]

5’s destruction is just 💋 The gunplay is nice, though the guns feel like laser lol

[jade merlin]

I agree

[jade merlin]

The graphics I must say are mhmmmhmhm

The maps are lovely to look at

[arctic grove]

yeah can't say same for cyberpunk

[gusty jasper]

I miss the old art director at Dice

[nova torrent]

For every great decision made (fortifications, no spread, breakthrough) there was a pointless design decision or just lack of a core feature (anticheat, fucked up healing, attrition, no teamswitch etc)

[jade merlin]

U could cook on a PC running cyberpunk

[arctic grove]

best looking map is the war at the pacific

[jovial furnace]

Agreed

[stuck gust]

Yeah it was cops and robbers with battlefield x cod gunplay

[arctic grove]

no man they actually downgraded on PC too for stability

[jovial furnace]

Plus 5’s maps are amazing. 2042’s maps are better. Both games are fantastic battlefields

[arctic grove]

graphics suck now tbh

[stuck gust]

I told people to not preorder cyberpunk 😆

[gusty jasper]

Better in what way

[arctic grove]

yeah bfv graphics are better than bf2042

[jade merlin]

At least management it listening in cyberpunk

[nova torrent]

Graphics in BF5 for me are inconsistent. Sometimes maps look amazing, other times they just look....off.

[arctic grove]

it has a nice story dude definitely worth it if you like cyberpunk style games

[fallen yarrow]

Agreed on the lack of anticheat and teamswitch. I think healing/attrition were fine (at least the current values). They encourage more teamwork and are completely negated by playing with just 1 friend.

[jovial furnace]

I dunno. When I play them I have more fun though

[fallen yarrow]

Also the fact that there are med/ammo stations on most flags was real nice

[stuck gust]

On sale for over half off maybe

[gusty jasper]

Fair enough

[arctic grove]

i kind of wish we had third person in cp

[gusty jasper]

Personally I feel like we haven't had many stellar maps since BF3

even BF4 maps were kinda.... mid

[muted plume]

3 matches in a row “waiting for players to join” i’m about to uninstall this game

[nova torrent]

like maybe some weird lighting change that just makes say a patch of water look like someone poured gasoline onto it for some reason

[iron blade]

Achi baba? Somme? Pashendaele? 🥺

[stuck gust]

That would make the environment cooler to walk around in at times

[gusty jasper]

Are these BF1 maps? I can't remember the name but I def remember visually

[jovial furnace]

Bf4 and Bf1 are overrated. 2042 and 5 receive WAYYYYY too much hate

[iron blade]

Yes

[muted plume]

yes

[nova torrent]

Fort vaux?

[gusty jasper]

I loved Monte Grappe

[iron blade]

Bf4 yea, bf1 hell nah

[iron blade]

Yes, imo the most fun meat grinder map

[muted plume]

just uninstalled after the fourth game had me waiting for players for multiple minutes again

[gusty jasper]

BFV maps felt a bit too infantry centric, but still okay

[iron blade]

Monte was fun on conquest, operations was hell for the attackers

[frosty mural]

panzerstorm is a WW2 version of hourglass

[nova torrent]

agreed, vaux is rarely ever deadlocked unlike say locker

[grizzled whale]

im starting to remember why i love SMG's so much in this game

[iron blade]

Yesh

[fallen yarrow]

I enjoyed most of the maps. I think they struck a good balance for all play styles (Infantry, tanks and planes)

[frosty mural]

so open with less cover

[gusty jasper]

Well that map is always the exception

[nova torrent]

Damn which SMG are you using

[iron blade]

Yeah, a lot more flanking routes than locker

[frosty mural]

Should have figured how the maps would have been from that map

[fallen yarrow]

At least panzerstorm didn't have AGMs and Littlebirds

[nova torrent]

All the open maps in BF5 are so poopy

[frosty mural]

Armored Kill from Bf3 was fun

[nova torrent]

Panzerstorm is horrid for infantry except in a few very specific areas

[gusty jasper]

Sucks theres no infantry friendly map in 2042 aside from maybe Orbital

[nova torrent]

al sundan is one of the worst maps in BF history though

[fiery shoal]

id say manifest is the most infantry friendly map

[frosty mural]

That was the biggest map at the time, and the infantry and vehicles meshed well together.

[gusty jasper]

Actually true

[fallen yarrow]

You can do well as infantry along B-C-D-E in Panzerstorm. Also depends on how your team is doing, if they're getting wrecked then you're gonna have a bad day regardless of the map

[gusty jasper]

I keep forgetting that map exists

[fiery shoal]

my favorite map =[

[gusty jasper]

The ships are actually fun to fight on

[frosty mural]

I like B on that map

[fiery shoal]

i think the whole map is awesome honestl

[fallen yarrow]

Manifest would have been good without Sundance/Mackay

[frosty mural]

between the building and the dome

[arctic grove]

I think i am the only on i this community that enjoys 2042

[iron blade]

All bf1 maps are good, except for glacia

[gusty jasper]

Ehh, the cargo areas need some work. They're literally long open strips with crates as POIs

[frosty mural]

I enjoy it..especially HZ

[iron blade]

Glacia is the hourglass of bf1

[arctic grove]

yeah and would make sword combat so cool

[nova torrent]

galacia is what people think 2042 maps are

[fiery shoal]

i didnt play much of bf1, but i hated sinai or whatever its called, as well as another open map that had a church in the center?

[arctic grove]

They arent bad but bf3 and 4 destroys them

[arctic grove]

Agree lmao

[iron blade]

Ehhh idk, bf3 maps are good, but the base game bf4 maps are dog

Never got bf4 dlc

[nova torrent]

Sinai is probably one of the best "giant open desert/field w little cover" maps in BF honestly

[frosty mural]

the winter map DLC for bf3 was actually really fun

[arctic grove]

Operation locker is a classic and bf4 dlc is really good

[arctic grove]

you mean alborz mountain?

[frosty mural]

Yah that one..i also like Bandar Desert

[arctic grove]

yeah its also great

[gusty jasper]

Caspian border if that counts

[nova torrent]

Bullshit locker is actually horrid

[arctic grove]

Is chaotic and thats the fun part

[gusty jasper]

Locker would be better if it had 2 outdoor flanks

[frosty mural]

In fact all the maps in that DLC was really great, they knew how to make big maps and focus on infantry and vehicle gameplay

[jovial furnace]

Nah nah nah, I love the game a ton lol

[arctic grove]

On pc locker is the most popular map

[nova torrent]

ye but its far TOO chokepoint-y. there's rarely any chance to flank because every corridor is always full of enemies and going outside is basically a snow flashbang in addition to getting sniped

[arctic grove]

bruh like bf2 maps are better than bf2042s (exept orbital)

[arctic grove]

Same even with out portal

[karmic cobalt]

Yeah but hardcore lmg go pow

[nova torrent]

Yes but actually no bcs you use hardcore therefore you are a fool

[arctic grove]

No shit bf2 is a masterpiece if we dont count the realism mod

[karmic cobalt]

But muh xp farm

[arctic grove]

Realism is even better

[arctic grove]

agree

[fierce gull]

orbital the best

[jovial furnace]

Yee. Gunplay and maps are great imo. Vehicles are awesome. Destruction could use an improvement. I don’t mind specialists at all

Plus the game is soooooo chaotic

[arctic grove]

Only the woman with hax i want them to nerf

[jovial furnace]

Which in my opinion makes or breaks a battlefield: chaos

[gusty jasper]

he actually managed to find the game fun

[arctic grove]

the new battlefield just turned into cod but on lager maps

[arctic grove]

No way

[gusty jasper]

beat the impossible

[iron blade]

I wanna get back into 2042 and reinstall it, but ik ill get bored within 5 matches and uninstall

[fierce gull]

Did you guys know they added more cover to the map Caspian Border for portal

[jovial furnace]

lmao

[fierce gull]

compared to the old

[karmic cobalt]

Idk why people make the cod comparison. The gunplay sucks and the maps are huge and open and dominated by vehicles

[arctic grove]

Nah cod is shit bf is actually fun and pushes frostbite to its limit

[nova torrent]

I had no clue, thats cool.

[jovial furnace]

Agreed

[arctic grove]

Same for every map

[gusty jasper]

Which leads to broken games

[arctic grove]

also bf2042 specialist voice lines are so cringe (my opinion)

[iron blade]

I hate cod, most overrated franchise or all time

[nova torrent]

CoD is fine, it just gets boring decently quick.

[iron blade]

Maybe in the early days it was good but nowadays its just meh

[gusty jasper]

MW19, hate it or not, saved COD

[arctic grove]

After bo2 its shit but 2019 and bo3 are really good rest are shit

[nova torrent]

After about your second or third CoD game it just gets boring

[gusty jasper]

You thought BO3 was good?

[arctic grove]

ofc exept for ANGLE DOES IT AGAIN

[arctic grove]

Agree...but then wz

[gusty jasper]

I honestly think BO3 was the actual worst cod

[grizzled whale]

lol, dude talked mad shit on me "not doing anything" last game, next game i go 71-15 clearing objectives
"Bro you are useless" medic with 3 kills and 6 revives the whole match

[nova torrent]

end of round voicelines are shit but in round ones can be funny once in a while

[arctic grove]

Yes fun the zombies are fantastic and mods the mods

[grizzled whale]

MP9

[nova torrent]

WZ used to be good, but after CW's integration it was ass.

[mossy badge]

i am super excited for this new cod

[gusty jasper]

Only BR worth playing is Apex

[arctic grove]

Yep and on pc you cant get rid of it so 100+ gbs for a game you dont want

[mossy badge]

🙌 😍

[arctic grove]

dice when battlefield 2042 failes: don’t be sad this is how it works sometimes

[nova torrent]

Based apex is top tier

[vivid nacelle]

somehome a new bug popped up. M4A1 makes my gun only shoot 12 rounds, and I cant scope, changing Ammo through T doesnt work

[arctic grove]

Same

[grizzled whale]

if you on pc and 100gb is an issue you aint doing it right

[fierce gull]

Just when they announced soap they started to add CW content to the game which pissed me off

[iron blade]

Apex is the shit. WZ is overrated AF

[arctic grove]

The problem is YOU CANT REMOVE A SHITTY GAME

[arctic grove]

true

[nova torrent]

Oh yeah its sad that MW19 is so broken because of the integration

[grizzled whale]

try using the SFAR and get into vehicles during the match, its fun

[gusty jasper]

Apex gunplay and movement = unmatched

[grizzled whale]

titanfall 2

[arctic grove]

I want to play apex but its 70 gbs

[fierce gull]

god damn the jet skin clean af time to unlock

[drowsy sapphire]

That needs to be turned into a 3 real soon

[nova torrent]

Closest thing to perfection the FPS genre has gotten

[gusty jasper]

Titanfall definitely beats movement, but idk about the gunplay

[iron blade]

My friends are begging me to play mw19

[grizzled whale]

aside from the dead playerbase and hackers

[real owl]

I like the gunplay and movement but I dislike br games

[vivid nacelle]

is it still active?

[iron blade]

Like hell nah, id rather play good ol BF than Call of SBM: Camping warfare

[nova torrent]

like MW multiplayer or warzone

[gusty jasper]

I'm the same way, I only play Apex for those 2 aspects

[mossy badge]

i hope it has a better version of ground war
gunplay of apex is only good for apex and games like titanfall otherwise i dont enjoy gunplay of apex and titanfall movement of titanfalll is really butter

[iron blade]

Idk

[nova torrent]

Yeah but its glitchy af

[arctic grove]

Well yes and no the game (thanks to wz) is a bit broken but the game is solid you actually have to check corners

A good fps is squad

Hell let loose is overrated

[vivid nacelle]

shiiiit, I really liked that game. Was thinking of playing that instead of BF2042 now more bots show up, but if its become unplayable, fk that

[gusty jasper]

Milsims in general 💤

[arctic grove]

The downtime is the best part

[gusty jasper]

Except insurgency

[arctic grove]

Which one sandstorm, hl2 mod or standalone

[gusty jasper]

I sure would love coming back from work to be yelled at 30 year old gun head dads about how I'm playing wrong

[wide violet]

you dont like driving around a supply truck for an hour and half? (in squad)

[jovial furnace]

Battlefront 2 Milsim with both sides participating equals god tier 👀

[gusty jasper]

Any

[nova torrent]

its not unplayable, but its way buggier

[nova torrent]

Collossal W take

Milsims are actually so shite

[gusty jasper]

I sure love walking anywhere and being 1 shot

[wide violet]

best gameplay

[arctic grove]

I have never had that experience in squad the (eu community at least) is friendly and dont mind new players (just dont join exodus)

[west fable]

It would be cool if battlefront 2 had private games

[gusty jasper]

I heard squad is def more laid back

[arctic grove]

Well it does

[jovial furnace]

It ‘does’ on PC

[west fable]

PlayStation

[wise zodiac]

One thing I miss... rented servers.

[wide violet]

preach brother

[nova torrent]

The thing that pisses me off the most abt BF players is the ones who think its a milsim

[arctic grove]

Cod needs to make a class system for ground war

[wise zodiac]

Its an arcade shooter, but you can do milsim shit in it.

[mossy badge]

noooooo let it remain what it is

[gusty jasper]

Which is somehow 50% of the audience nowadays

[iron blade]

[nova torrent]

But also it isnt? its just confusing.

[arctic grove]

You could technically turn it into a milsim game with HC and portal customization options

[arctic grove]

Arma is lit tho the game is like gmod if you install well to many mods you have halo marines fight against lego figures

[gusty jasper]

I see a lot more milsim takes now than ever

[mossy badge]

but destruction GW will be really awesome ngl

[arctic grove]

(compared to squad and red orchestra)

[iron blade]

BF is a bridge between milsim and arcade shooter

[nova torrent]

honestly CoD isnt built for BF-esque game modes

[iron blade]

Im on ps5 so idk

[arctic grove]

(said no one)

[iron blade]

[arctic grove]

Get a pc

[jovial furnace]

lol

[west fable]

Get a life

[arctic grove]

It amazes me how none of these big AAA companies make a knock off bf game with all its core mechanics. Easy money cash grab plus fans will love it. its an easy win/win.

[arctic grove]

Get private servers

[jovial furnace]

Easier said than done 😂

[nova torrent]

Ground war feels like the devs put in what they saw as the SURFACE LEVEL core of a BF game, but not the minor, behind-the-scenes mechanics and things that make BF FEEL like BF.

[wise zodiac]

Arma is too much.

I mean, calculating actual hang time on mortars in a video game is ridiculous.

[nova torrent]

or just keeping in things that absolutely dont fit the BF series like killstreaks and the obsessive chokepoint-oriented maps.

[jovial furnace]

That’s the point of it though, it’s supposed to be as realistic as possible

[arctic grove]

Bro flying an a10 and commit mass genocide is fun are realistic from experience

[gusty jasper]

Out of all people, I would least expect that sentence to come from you

[wise zodiac]

Oh no, I get it.

Trust me, I get the aspect.. but I'm also here for the cool shit, not the bullshit.

[arctic grove]

People literally want a bf4.5 or a bf3/4 remastered.

[wise zodiac]

And doing math isn't cool shit, it's bullshit.

[iron blade]

Nah im happy with my ps5

[jovial furnace]

Understandable, I myself would never play Arma lol I’d much rather blow crap up in Bf

[arctic grove]

The sad thing is console players is they dont have the police line games (swat 3, 4)

[wise zodiac]

Committing genocide isn't fun.

[iron blade]

True, all we have is fucking siege

[nova torrent]

Bro ive heard SWAT is a great series

[arctic grove]

BF1: Pain, Struggle, Depression, Horror of War
2042: "Don't be sad... this is just how it works sometimes

[gusty jasper]

Anyone here play Ready or Not?