battlefield-2042

[stoic ferry]

Wrong. Capitalism in itself is not greed. You may be gready. but so can anyone under socialism

[wide shore]

Every company is greedy. And they should be. That’s how they make money

[stoic ferry]

ofc .

whats what a company does and should do.

[wide shore]

To act as if supporting EA is any more sinful than supporting Apple by buying their phones, or Microsoft for buying their hardware is silly.

[stoic ferry]

Why should someone not support EA?

[wide shore]

Either way you’re giving hundreds to a company that could burn $1000 a day and never run out.

[fossil trench]

The reason it’s especially bad is because EA holds the exclusive license so they have a small monopoly and are able to do whatever they want and people will be forced to buy their product if they want to play the latest roster.

[wide shore]

That’s the point I’m making. Not wanting to give EA money cause they’re the “greedy” boogeyman so very disingenuous.

[stoic ferry]

Ye agree. Ppl pay tax too and that money goes to fight wars.

[vivid nacelle]

nobody is forced to buy anything

[stoic ferry]

so giving some dimes to EA is not bad

[fossil trench]

Forced as in given only one option or nothing.

[stoic ferry]

Its a game. so if that money is so important to someone. they should not buy a game. imo. Some games fail some are good. Most games have problems and most games with problems get fixed to a degree-. either way. its nikkels and dimes. legit 70USD. Thats not money.

[wide shore]

Could always wait, and buy a secondhand copy from GameStop.

If that makes you feel better

[stoic ferry]

I have said it for a long ass time. that games should cost more. not les

[vivid nacelle]

Not EAs fault there isnt anything zlse like BF

[wide shore]

I think they’re referring more to their sports titles

[fossil trench]

We aren’t talking about BF?

[wide shore]

In that case I believe they have the rights.

[fiery shoal]

considering games were 60 bucks some 10 years ago, inflation ALONE accounts for a 70 dollar price tag.. thats not including the obvious increase in game complexity and manpower/cost of man power either... imo we are in a golden age of gaming when it comes to value of gaming, especially considering all the f2p options out there

[fossil trench]

Are you not reading chat lol

[vivid nacelle]

Well, Fifa is a lootbox driven game anyway, the game is playing you. but I understand in that case.

[fiery shoal]

replying helps to clarify who you are talking to

[stoic ferry]

ye i was looking at that yesterday. Take infation to account and games I got for my SEGA Master system 2 cost 80-110USD with todays price.

[fossil trench]

Reading what I said right before helps too!

[fiery shoal]

its insane when you think of it like that.. n64 games were stupid expensive then too, thankfully i wasnt paying for them xD

[fiery shoal]

so you still dont clarify who you were talking to...

[desert elbow]

They're having fun

[stoic ferry]

ye 😄 even when I got the PS1 as a kid way back in 95. that shit cost like 550USD in todays money. and now a ps5 cost about the same? but is 10.000 times more powerfull.

[fossil trench]

I replied to them. Then I sent another message. Read chat 💀

[stoic ferry]

the PS1 cost 300 USD in norway when it came out.

[fiery shoal]

all im saying is its confusing to put out a comment saying "are you not reading chat" after 3 separate people have replied. i assume you are talking to ohlordius, but it would be convenient to just reply to them

[stoic ferry]

But im still waiting for all big and small companies that makes game to start a colab. and help end cheating.

Banned on steam? now you are banned on all platforms and all games.

[vivid nacelle]

Yh i wasnt following chat. I only saw the commie chat and then I saw i was in bf2042 and just tought the talk was about BF

[fossil trench]

I replied to him and I sent another message right after. Within the same minute…

[vivid nacelle]

I saw Angels comment (with and without reply)

[fiery shoal]

"after 3 separate people have replied"

damn all of this instead of "i was talking to ohlord"

[vivid nacelle]

Lol

[stoic ferry]

@fiery shoal even worse when you think about pc parts. that cost ALOT in the 90s and early 2000s

[fiery shoal]

i was poor growing up, so i only had a console till i built my own gaming pc

[vivid nacelle]

Better upgrade your 56k modem to isdn so you can surf the web a lot faster

[stoic ferry]

@fiery shoal ye had consoles until 2003. when to my first LAN in 03. The Gathering in Norway

[steep skiff]

I heard they added a scoreboard, what do you guys think of it? Better than 4 or 1?

[arctic grove]

All my parts are from the scrapyard

[fiery shoal]

you heard wrong

[steep skiff]

I thought it released earlier this month like they said

[dense terrace]

its great

[copper fulcrum]

So in other words,

You were a poor boy and you needed no sympathy.

[dense terrace]

3 months in the making paid off

[fiery shoal]

cant tell if youre actually out of the loop or trolling...

[steep skiff]

since being disappointed with the initial state I kinda didn't want to hear what was happening

I refunded and haven't heard any news about it recently

except I did hear that steam was allowing refunds for everyone but EA wasn't so idk whats happening with that

[dense terrace]

shits dead i just played 3 tdm in a row that were 9v9 or 10v10 max with xplay on. eu

[desert elbow]

I'm hoping they pull a BF3/BF1 and have DLCs focused on different types of gameplay (Naval, air, close quarters) etc to make everyone happy

[vivid nacelle]

I only play Breakthrough 64

[steep skiff]

wait they dont have any dlc yet?

[desert elbow]

Nah not yet

[arctic grove]

yes, that would be great

[sudden peak]

Naval strike is tha best

[dense terrace]

thats wat happens when u release an alpha

gotta fix first

then content

[steep skiff]

the game has been out for about 4 months why no dlc yet .-.

anyways I'll be back in a month 👋

[dense terrace]

are my msgs not coming thru

[desert elbow]

They are

[stoic ferry]

they are not

[vivid nacelle]

some are, some not

[dense terrace]

i know they are

[stoic ferry]

lies

[desert elbow]

As long as the game is in a good state eventually, I'm fine with it

[vivid nacelle]

I agree, but I especially hope they can attract players again because it really doesnt have to become any less....

[dense terrace]

free demo

like cbpnk

[slate meadow]

Is game good yet?

[tacit plover]

there was a 10h trial not long ago

[slate meadow]

If you have EA access / Xbox game game you can get a 10hour free trial

[dense terrace]

yeah with game broken

that wont attract

[tacit plover]

ah whiners will whine...

[stoic ferry]

the EA access makes the game almost free. so its easy to test it

[dense terrace]

there was free weekend even

[stoic ferry]

its like 10 USD for EA access ?

[arctic grove]

i do not download 40gb for just 2 days

[slate meadow]

How is finding games on pc these days is it still mostly bots?

[dense terrace]

no?

[stoic ferry]

little to no bots in EU

[vivid nacelle]

I see a lot of bots initially, yes, sadly, but as the game progresses they get replaced by real players

[slate meadow]

is the player base increasing atleast since they have updated game

[stoic ferry]

if there are bots. they are there in the first 5min of the game

[dense terrace]

if u mean since last patch, then no

[slate meadow]

Yeah since they said they will do fixes for season one I ment

[arctic grove]

it was below 2042 players on steam

[slate meadow]

Last time I checked on steam it was around 6k player a day is it more now?

[stoic ferry]

steam? who playes bf on steam?

[dense terrace]

some not many

[vivid nacelle]

I do

[dense terrace]

u still go thru origin so it beats me

[arctic grove]

Most people so they can refund easier

[stoic ferry]

cant be alot of players who does 😄 99% is on origin.

[dense terrace]

u have to have two launchers opened while playing if u have it on steam. 🤢

[vivid nacelle]

only launches the application, thats all,

[slate meadow]

Does origin give a player count ?

[dense terrace]

i got downvoted to oblivion for saying that most pc players are on origin so be careful

[stoic ferry]

nope

[dense terrace]

i still think thats truth tho

[slate meadow]

I think more people play throw steam then origin

[stoic ferry]

but basing the playercount on steam numbers is dumb. 90++ % of players are on origin.

[vivid nacelle]

you dont know that, you can only guess

[dense terrace]

battlefield games? i dont think so

[arctic grove]

Isn’t it usually cheaper on steam

[slate meadow]

Oooff it's Less then 3k players on steam

[dense terrace]

also it was released week later on steam

[tight tapir]

Lots of good comparisons in this video: https://youtu.be/y3hnafz5a1U

[arctic grove]

i´d like to have my games in steam , i do not want 5 bookshelves for 5 books

[dense terrace]

or maybe i had early week coz of gold

[slate meadow]

Still it had a peak of 100k on steam

[stoic ferry]

i play BT 128 and find server that is full at all times. so cant be that few players 😄

[dense terrace]

prolly was another 200k on origin back then

[fiery shoal]

halo infinite lost 97% of its player base, 2042 lost 98%

[stoic ferry]

peak yes. all new games peak.

[dense terrace]

and more on consoles

[fiery shoal]

TIL games lose players over time...

[tight tapir]

Between BF3 and 2042

[stoic ferry]

new game and the numbers you get the first weeks is not representative

[slate meadow]

Infinite loss for the same reason though lack of content

[tight tapir]

It's free 2 play at least

[slate meadow]

I just wanted to know if it was worth £30 yet but to be honest looking into it it's still not worth it

[stoic ferry]

f2p is bad. so i love that BF dont go that way

[fiery shoal]

sure, the point being that games lose players vs the first week "peaks"

[stoic ferry]

sales numbers is out. ish and they are better then bf4

but going on that alone is not right

[arctic grove]

i think we shouldn´t compare it with Halo, COD is the competitor

[stoic ferry]

BF has no real comp imo

[fiery shoal]

i mean.. how are we trying to justify competition?

[tight tapir]

The sales of 2042 are built on previous titles reception and reputation

[stoic ferry]

Halo and Cod might be. but BF is a sandbox mill game. COD is not

[warped pilot]

Nah cod bitch slaps brokenfield to oblivion lmao

[fiery shoal]

sales are largely based on launch trailer...

[dense terrace]

godam launch trailer

[tight tapir]

The next BF sales will suffer because of b2042

[slate meadow]

Shit I nearly pre ordered the game but held off because dice and man am I glad I did

[sturdy patrol]

no one will buy that game

[fiery shoal]

i personally really doubt that, bet if the next bf titles comes out with a cool ass launch trailer it will sell a lot again

[tight tapir]

Lagging indicator

[arctic grove]

it has but that´s what I said. we should compare it with cod

[warped pilot]

I agree with that

[stoic ferry]

why? If they fix the game and it a good game for years. the next one will be a hit to. Ppl then to forget fast.

[slate meadow]

I played the beta and was so pissed but everyone was saying it's ok it's a old build the release version will be completely different

[dense terrace]

beta old buid was pile of lies

[tight tapir]

I play a ton of games but this launch is burned in my memory

[mossy badge]

then i dont think infinite warfare could have sold 13.6 million copies 🤔

[slate meadow]

Didn't dice say they was way ahead if schedule aswell 😂

[warped pilot]

It's ea but yeah

[dense terrace]

they were very very very high when they said that

[stoic ferry]

We know they had massive problems, mostly with Frostbite. took to long to fix and add stuff. I also understand they needed to release it before the holliday. Only thing that matter now is how it will be fix with season 1 and 2

[slate meadow]

If the schedule was a huge bucket of poop it still would Have been a lie at that point

[fiery shoal]

thats still a lot of copies and its cod... most casuals will just buy it off name alone

[mossy badge]

people buy what they enjoy

[fiery shoal]

did "dice" say this or one random dice employee on twitter?

[slate meadow]

Isn't season one supposed to be here by now ? It's like almost 3 month in

[slate meadow]

I believe it was a Dev during an interview

[dense terrace]

tiny half a year delay of season 1 mate

[slate meadow]

Oh sorry it was an EA rep

Came out and said dice is way ahead of schedule

[fiery shoal]

sus

[dense terrace]

very very very baked at the time, most def

[stoic ferry]

for me. its not the bugs and problems with the game. Its the lack of comms. The game i know will be fixes so im in no hurry. Ppl cry as if they got 1month left to live and wants to play it before they die. Ppl should chill more. Pet a dog and take a walk.

[slate meadow]

Blake jorgesen said it

[fiery shoal]

the dude that got "fired"?

[cyan trout]

I mean the last game only got updates for roughly 2 years

[slate meadow]

Not sure but he was the chief financial officer at the time for EA so clearly said this in an interview to push more sales

[arctic grove]

Greetings

[native mantle]

hi

bann this imperonator plz!!he must be fake

[arctic grove]

now it´s Chris Suh (March 1). "Mr. Jorgensen will remain with the company until the summer to assist with the transition and special projects"

[arctic grove]

[native mantle]

giggle

[arctic grove]

How is everyone? Hopefully doing well

[native mantle]

they cant be doing well unless they od-d on copium

[slate meadow]

This is what Andrew Wilson CEO of EA said

[arctic grove]

Lmao

[slate meadow]

“We will reveal the game in the spring and deliver a defining Battlefield experience for our players in holiday 2021.”

[stoic ferry]

happy I cant get 15-25 Dozer kills pr round so it was a bit more easy than i thought it whould be.

[native mantle]

ahead of scheduel-Andrew Wilson

[arctic grove]

Why is there a slow down on chat? Not many people here

Oh you ought to see the chat when it’s -5 seconds

[native mantle]

like listen everyone,let this be a lesson of how to think about anything that EA ever says to you in the future regards to anything....

[slate meadow]

You guys should read the article it's actually an interesting read you can see from very early on they was pushing the b.s card to get the sales

[arctic grove]

Also let it be a lesson to understand the context of what people are saying

[native mantle]

oh a payed shill arrived

[arctic grove]

I’m not paid,

So like… anyone know when 2042 is gonna be good?

[native mantle]

explain how Andrew wasnt lying his ass of completly plz be my guest,meanwhile if you dont mind i will take notes

[arctic grove]

Ahead of schedule == no bugs

[native mantle]

bruh you doing it for free???thats even more pathetic than

[warped pilot]

People believing everything what ea saying

[arctic grove]

Cope

[grizzled coyote]

it already is good

[slate meadow]

Our next Battlefield experience will mark a return to all out military warfare,” EA CEO Andrew Wilson said during the company’s third quarter earnings call on Tuesday.

“The game takes full advantage of the power of next generation platforms to bring massive immersive battles to life with more players than ever before.

“Featuring maps with unprecedented scale, the next edition of Battlefield takes all the destruction, player agency, vehicle and weapon combat that the franchise is known for and elevates it to another level.

[arctic grove]

Enjoy the game = HURHUR PAID EA SHILL

[grizzled coyote]

its you guys not the game

[dense terrace]

[warped pilot]

unprecedented scale

[cyan trout]

Once they release the next battlefield and get rid of more 'legacy features'

[dense terrace]

unprecedented scale of empty spaces

[arctic grove]

[native mantle]

sorry that game died before launch plz revisit dice in 2024

[slate meadow]

@arctic grove can you please explain to me how any of what he said is true about bf2042 ?

[arctic grove]

Any more questions?

[native mantle]

till than the shop is closed sry 😉

[grizzled coyote]

everyone gonna be playing gta 6

[arctic grove]

Are you referring to this, potato?

[dense terrace]

g t a

[arctic grove]

[vivid nacelle]

In 2025

[native mantle]

sry 😉

[arctic grove]

Ahh, we can’t even react to comments

[slate meadow]

Yeah to the whole " it takes everything that bf is known for and elevats it to a next level"

[slim quiver]

Well I’d say the unprecedented part is untrue in terms of player size, since mag did 256 players as far back as 2010

[wise zodiac]

Yep. A little nugget people seem to forget.

[native mantle]

the ahead of scheduel thing was also based on facts

[civic reef]

So when they say next battlefield, so they mean this one is finished.. 😵‍💫

[dense terrace]

i was bf'ing when mag came out

[vivid nacelle]

Whats mag?

[arctic grove]

I’m sure it’s easy to see how this applies in game right? 128 players, 2x larger maps,

[slim quiver]

The ahead of schedule thing I was skeptical about from the start

[dense terrace]

game

[slim quiver]

Pretty sure the alpha was delayed

[wise zodiac]

A game.

"MASSIVE ACTION GAME".

[slim quiver]

MAG was amazing

[arctic grove]

I think 64 players is more enjoyable than 128… or at least the maps should be slightly smaller in 2042 because some areas are too empty (this is constructive criticism btw )

[slim quiver]

256 domination match

[wise zodiac]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAG_(video_game)

[radiant echo]

It's all about the flow imo

[arctic grove]

Not only that but the maps aren’t really designed with much infantry protection in mind

[native mantle]

im pretty sure he had no idea what he was talking about but in his mind at that point in time seemd like a good idea to say it out loud lmfao

[radiant echo]

Kaleidoscope is the smallest

[dense terrace]

thats the general opinion yes

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[radiant echo]

With little flow

[slim quiver]

It’s good hype marketing for sure

[arctic grove]

Sometimes your entire teams vehicles gets AGMd cause there’s nowhere to hide

[arctic grove]

[merry furnace]

goo to battlefield 2042

[slate meadow]

Hardly any destruction player agency is completely different. And weapon combat is nothing like any other bf game so and vehicles are broken as f I'm sure 99% of the bf player base wouldn't call this " another level of what bf is known for"

[vivid nacelle]

Never heard of it 😮 im not a fps console player. Only game i play on console is gta

[dense terrace]

where is that? i missed a turn i think

[wise zodiac]

Yeah, it came out 12 years ago, so...

[dense terrace]

didnt mag not break into mainstream tho? im not consoler either , i watched some clips of it

[remote rover]

Ello

[merry furnace]

Intense war in the game Battlefield 2042

[arctic grove]

I don’t think vehicles are broken as much as it is partly just map design being taken advantage of. At least that’s how I perceive it. Little cover from nightbirds or anything slinging 30-50mm at you. Destruction is a weird topic because it could have been toned down simply cause the engine wouldn’t be able to handle it

[wise zodiac]

It was a PS3 only game.

[slim quiver]

Well it was ps3 only

[arctic grove]

Ello

[native mantle]

one thing is to make 7 maps for vechicles,another thing is to not release a single map for infantry....2042 in a nutshell

[hazy ruin]

lol they blamed the failure of the game on halo infinite
sure its a contributing factor but maybe its more so cos the game doesnt even work in the first place lol

[arctic grove]

That’s a nice username

[native mantle]

and till the summer this wont change

[slim quiver]

That was my biggest problem, since I don’t really play in vehicles

[vivid nacelle]

Also, CEOs have no idea what theyre talking about, press releases are written by people who do nothing but that and other marketing shit. Ceos their job is to run the company and make sure the financials are in order

[remote rover]

Thank you, Jesus?

[wise zodiac]

CEOs job? Be the figure head and the fall guy.

[dense terrace]

is it mexican prononcuation Jesus or english one

[arctic grove]

English

[native mantle]

2042 the biggest scam,i thought cdpr raised the bar to high and nobody will be able to come close...oh boy i was wrong lmfao

[dense terrace]

hesus

[vivid nacelle]

Indeed. He knows what their employees feed him with.

[native mantle]

can relate

[arctic grove]

honestly sign me up I’d love to be a scape goat

[slate meadow]

But the point is this is the CEO of the company spouting these lies just to get sales throw and having his chief financial officer follow him up and then they wonder why the player base is pissed and everybody hates on those who actually enjoy the game because those loyal fans feel like they have been stabbed in the back

[merry furnace]

Will new weapons be added to Battlefield buddies?

[dense terrace]

and then they fire u to make an example and gib u a huge bag of moni

[slim quiver]

I’ve moved on from this game though. Time to focus on future games

[radiant echo]

I gotta say BF3/BF4(DLCs) had a lot of maps that maintained good between vehicles and infantry

[arctic grove]

Getting paid millions to do nothing and be criticised online? Sign me up

[slim quiver]

Honestly if you’re not happy with the game I highly suggest other people to do the same and focus on something that makes you feel good

There’s no reason to waste your time not having fun

[native mantle]

same but i wont forget this anytime soon

[arctic grove]

literally getting paid to get sent death threats, I’m already half way there

[arctic grove]

Not an excuse to attack devs or players who enjoy the game. Idgaf what it is, that ain’t cool

[dense terrace]

oh, that. well thats straight dumb and i bet its mostly some kids doing that, kids with some anger management issues

[slim quiver]

Sure that’s fine, just know that you have so many options to look forward to for other games and such and hopefully you’re playing something you enjoy with your own time

[native mantle]

true thats why 2042 is not a bf game causee its not even close to those games when it comes to balancing infantry/vechicles

[remote rover]

Some CEOs are actually quite involved with the company, but those are few and far between.

[arctic grove]

Get your refund if you can, if you can’t, don’t ever preorder a game before you try out game pass or SOME sort of trial before you decide to spend 60+. It’s a learning lesson for everyone

[slate meadow]

I mean the proof is in the pudding bf2042 has dwindling player numbers and EA should have a class action lawsuit against them to force them to refund players who want a refund

[arctic grove]

Yes, I agree

[vivid nacelle]

You couldnt do the job of CEO, its not for everyone

[arctic grove]

Infantry and vehicles are balanced though, both can shred or annoy the other easily

[slim quiver]

I’ll say that just because this game wasn’t to your liking, it doesn’t mean you never need to pre order another game

[merry furnace]

Dice please add aug weapon to Battlefield 2042

[slim quiver]

Not every single game turns out this way

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove go do hot takes on Reddit as work expierence

[copper fulcrum]

I'm pre-ordering the next game.

[arctic grove]

Sundance with C5 is too fast for vehicles to counter, Rao with Stinger is a pain in the behind for pilots

[arctic grove]

I would rather be crucified

[dense terrace]

whoa

[arctic grove]

Again*

[arctic grove]

Yes please pay for my sins again

[native mantle]

i mean the sooner you realize dice is gone and they going for apexfield the better,you cant get dissapointed in 2024 llmfao

[dense terrace]

mods gonna kick yo butt

[slate meadow]

It's false advertising in any other industry if you advertise one thing and sell a completely opposite thing EA should be refunding anybody who wants a refund especially those who paid £80+ for the game

[merry furnace]

Where is new we want content in a game, EA

[radiant echo]

Yeah that dynamic between engineers and vehicles is not the same as before or even not existent

[arctic grove]

Shiit last mute I got was for reciting one passage of the bible

[dense terrace]

😄

[arctic grove]

As much as I honestly agree, all I’m saying is harassment isn’t cool

[slate meadow]

Neither is fraud

[slate meadow]

Also how tf is season one not out yet 🤣

It's been almost a quarter of a year

[dense terrace]

its delayed by basically 6 months

[arctic grove]

It’s also unfortunate a lot of us probably will not get any refunds

[hazy ruin]

thats a brutal expectation

[merry furnace]

Where are the weapons? We want new weapons in a game. We are the Battlefield community. Answer my requirements

[clear hull]

lmfao... did EA/DICE blamed Halo Infinite for the negativity?

[warped pilot]

Yeah lmao

[native mantle]

its just cruelty not giving us an infantry map

[clear hull]

that's such MASSIVE dev skill issue going on

[still vault]

Uh, I have sooooo many movie tickets to refund because the movies felt different than the trailers. Doesn't matter if it has been years right?
I should make a petition...

[arctic grove]

[slim quiver]

I mean this may be my last BF that I buy so doesn’t really matter to me

[dense terrace]

they were sad that Halo did so well 😛

[remote rover]

I don’t want a refund, so I’m fine.

[dense terrace]

but halo is dead as much as 2042 rn

[native mantle]

fistbump and rip and lets cry together in the corner,im serious...

[arctic grove]

Halo can’t be blamed when it’s in the same predicament

[radiant echo]

I hope we got some at the future 🙌

[clear hull]

not really

[arctic grove]

I have a feeling exposure will mostly be infantry based

[native mantle]

just 1 before playerbase hits zero

[clear hull]

aleast halo has MCC and infinite campaign

[dense terrace]

u dont feel it on same level as it has tiny game modes

[remote rover]

I like both games. So I don’t have these issues.

[native mantle]

it would be nice...if they give us in the future it will be pointless,this supposed to be a pvp game last time i checkd and not a pve game

[merry furnace]

team nomad

[arctic grove]

I hope all the no-pats die in war

[dense terrace]

yeah. fuck corporate

[slate meadow]

If you paid extra money for extra things in the movie and then didn't receive said things then I'm sure you would be entitled to compensation

[slim quiver]

It was a good run. I started playing when I was 7 with 1942, I’m 26 now and have enjoyed every BF game except for like 2 of them

[arctic grove]

What did you not receive?

[slim quiver]

I was very fortunate to enjoy BF for this long and will continue to play the older games as long as there’s a population for them

[warped pilot]

I'll keep praying to u if that happens 🙏

[arctic grove]

[dense terrace]

i took a pause after bf4 to come back to this. im 30 and dissapointed, gotta see a councelor.

[copper fulcrum]

The only games I didn't really enjoy were Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 1

[dense terrace]

jesus fak how can one not enjoy bc2

[stoic ferry]

They can add or not add what they want. Since they make the game. The fact that you bought the game dont change that.

[radiant echo]

We all like battlefield for different reasons as they're all pretty much different

[arctic grove]

I’m still wondering what he paid extra for and did not receive

[dense terrace]

total destruction (ok no prone was sad times) was what tickled my pickle big time and everything else

[copper fulcrum]

Only thing I enjoyed out of it was the destruction, I enjoyed BF1943 more than that tbh

[still vault]

People who have paid for extra things in 2042 get those extra things so don't really understand that comparison.

[dense terrace]

@still vault remains to be seen 🙂

[arctic grove]

Everything advertised in the bundles, was received

[arctic grove]

Why do you like Battlefield?

[clear hull]

jesus... having to blame on an another FPS game... when the game is in a worst state...

[slate meadow]

EA play pro members not getting ore order items in game still an issue 3months down the line

[radiant echo]

Sandbox

[clear hull]

that's just sounds like DICE/EA are just trying to purposely fail

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove you have been summoned

[copper fulcrum]

Sandbox, Teamplay, Chaos, etc.

2042 has all of that.

[fiery shoal]

ea could make 0 money off dice games and still make billions....

[radiant echo]

Organized chaos

[warped pilot]

Realism

[native mantle]

we the community are the real no pats!!We are left in the middle of nowhere without battlefield!

[arctic grove]

Remember the BF4 Milsim servers

[copper fulcrum]

Battlefield never really focused on realism, hell even BF1 was pretty arcadey

[arctic grove]

[dense terrace]

destruction, but thats no longer the case =< altho in them portal maps on TDM its still there and thats what i mostly play

[vivid nacelle]

I dont want realism, I dont enjoy hardcore servers or games, BF is what I want,

[stoic ferry]

when did BF ever try to be realistic ? 😄

[arctic grove]

Oh yea bf1 was most def pretty arcadey, to this day though despite them not being “realistic” BF1s team uniforms are hella clean

[native mantle]

sound like we are almost twins,im just a bit older and thats it lol

[unborn heart]

milsims were a fraction of playerbase on PC in 4

[warped pilot]

Tbf it was the first fps game where i feel realism so... yeah

[native mantle]

bf5 and 2042 was the 2 wich you didnt liked?

[arctic grove]

[unborn heart]

I'm pretty sure Miki likes BFV, actually

[warped pilot]

Yeah, battlefield 4 to be specific

[dense terrace]

miki who

[fiery shoal]

what realism exactly? the concept of hit points and bullets converted to damage is flawed in the first place...

[unborn heart]

zzzy. Miki, IIRC two Battlefields you don't like are 4 and 2042, right?

[still vault]

What pre order items do you lack?

[dense terrace]

oh i loved BF4

[slate meadow]

None I don't own the game

[fiery shoal]

[warped pilot]

Recoil, bullet drop, gunshots, etc

[slate meadow]

Wasn't stupid enough to give any money to them f boys at EA/dice

[warped pilot]

Basically every detail i guess

[radiant echo]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-confused-blinking-okay-white-guy-blinking-gif-7513882

[still vault]

Well stop complaining on behalf of others then? I have EA Play Pro and don't lack any pre-order bonus.

[stoic ferry]

then what are you complaining about?

[fiery shoal]

just because bf titles have some aspects that are more realistic compared to something like cod, doesnt mean its realistic

[unborn heart]

BF4 had the easiest gun control from all Battlefields in last decade plus, to be honest (as long as suppression didn't happen, that is)

[stoic ferry]

You spend your time talking about a game you dont play OR own?. Dont you have a job? or GF to tend to

[arctic grove]

They come here just to do this

[arctic grove]

Lmao that has to be a joke… you saying BF4 was one of the first FPS games that feels “realistic”?

[fiery shoal]

its the weirdest thing

[stoic ferry]

ah 😄

this is like IRC back in the days

[arctic grove]

IRC?

[dense terrace]

well SCAR-H needed some skill to control in BF4 !

[native mantle]

well ngl i would not have guessed bf4 but i can see why lol,i assumed bf5 and 2042 cause to me these were the worst

[warped pilot]

Chill the fuck out it's because i've never played fps so much before battlefield LMFAOOO

[stoic ferry]

Internet Relay Chat (IRC)

[unborn heart]

I'm not old enough to remember IRC, Xfire was my first platform

[stoic ferry]

ah 😄

[dense terrace]

i member IRC. yuk

[copper fulcrum]

Suppression was just
Oh no, a man farted next to me, I can no longer hit the broadside of a barn.

[dense terrace]

ircing while listening to "almost legit music on winamp"

[stoic ferry]

skipped Xfire. but do remember the times before Twitch too. Good old JustinTv

[analog fractal]

Not old enough to remember IRC.....

[vivid nacelle]

mIRC

[spiral lake]

yo yo

[warped pilot]

I said it, battlefield 4 is my first fps where i feel "realism" so suck it

[arctic grove]

I mean in actual milsim servers it could feel like one I’m ngl

[native mantle]

in retrospect perhaps bf4 and bf5 should never happened right after the previous title i mean following up bf3 with bf4 and bf1 with bf5...maybe doing it differently would have ended with different outcome

[remote rover]

Battlefield 4 was decent, yeah.

[stoic ferry]

IRC is the network. mIRC is one of many clients you use to go on it

[arctic grove]

Bro DICE plz fix gaem lmao plz

[copper fulcrum]

Dude the UI of Gamespy Arcade has such a 2000s look

[analog fractal]

How old are people who don't remember IRC?

[stoic ferry]

12

[slate meadow]

Complaining about EA and dice's lies about how great the game is how great development was going just to sucker unfortunate not so smart people into buying there game remember there was kids out there that used all there holiday money up just to buy the game based off it's trailor ( which half of didn't make it into the final game) and before you say oh they had the beta to test out EA had actual influencers telling people that it's an old build and that the final release everything will be fixed

[unborn heart]

28, but I only got Internet when I was 10

[wise zodiac]

IRC was lit. 🤣 🤣 🤣

[slim quiver]

Non identical twins, unless you’re a girl too and 5’1

[native mantle]

irc was...we called it even mIRC

[arctic grove]

Wait so are you saying the game was supposed to be like the trailer?

[stoic ferry]

ah 😄 mIRC was the biggest client. so many ppl did.

[native mantle]

wow wait a second you are a girl?you must be trolling lol

[analog fractal]

@unborn heart that makes sense i suppose, I only used IRC in my early teens

[obsidian sigil]

ah yes, being a girl means trolling....

[remote rover]

Of course.

[wise zodiac]

Why does she have to be trolling? Because she's a girl??

[unborn heart]

BF4 was good for really off-the-rocker playstyles, my gripe was mostly in weapon balance (or lack thereof) and barely any weapon learning curve. Well, vehicles still wiped the floor with infantry, but nowhere near BF3 levels

[dense terrace]

some people kept using mirc for a long while i remember using it later for something in 2011 even

[stoic ferry]

but that was months ago. why are you still here. job? GF? Dog to pet? Book to read?

[native mantle]

why you tryng to maket it look like there is anything wrong with me being surprised?people get surprised deal with it...

[arctic grove]

Never forget the really good pilots in 4, total nightmare

[wise zodiac]

I'm just asking.

[radiant echo]

Tap fire was the way to go

[native mantle]

me to...

[remote rover]

I didn’t like the reload animations in 4. They were really bad.

[native mantle]

i was asking if he is trolling or not...

[arctic grove]

Tap firing the AEK or SCAR >

[wise zodiac]

She.

[dense terrace]

nerfing famas was sad day

[stoic ferry]

ha there is still some servers and channels up on IRC

[radiant echo]

In 2013 They were

[native mantle]

i stand corrected ...she*

[dense terrace]

and then they banned famas in ESL Versus and i cried

[stoic ferry]

that shit dont die

[radiant echo]

I was playing with the AK-12 recently

[unborn heart]

Yeah, essentially magdump to... well past max damage range, really. Then microburst/tap. Wasn't much science to it for sure

[radiant echo]

And somehow it was viable

[remote rover]

True, back then they were okay. But even then Call of Duty had more dramatic reloads. Maybe not better, but they were more interesting

[wise zodiac]

I just want naval content back.

[arctic grove]

Me too

[wise zodiac]

Gimme boats.

[hazy ruin]

i just want a game that works back

[dense terrace]

@wise zodiac got you. sit in main menu.

[radiant echo]

Yeah needed some time to get used to for every gun

[wise zodiac]

Oof.

[stoic ferry]

there is a boat in the start of the game. so should come one day 😄

[arctic grove]

Naval game modes and content in 2042 pls, perfect opportunity to also make a map with a tsunami/hurricane weather event

[slate meadow]

Ah typical pleb statement can't prove an actual point so resorts back to trying to make things personal 🤣🤣

[unborn heart]

1 certainly was the BF from last decade where I felt I had the most of learning curve on guns

[wise zodiac]

[arctic grove]

What if I am whamen?

[unborn heart]

Due to how strongly their optimal ranges were determined versus other BFs

[spiral lake]

ayyy @unborn heart

[native mantle]

i just want EA and Dice not to move on and fix 2042 if i ignore everything,if im being realist i know stockholm is already pushing the pedal to the floor when it comes to making the next game

[robust stratus]

Especially snipers

[unborn heart]

hey mate

[wise zodiac]

[radiant echo]

I didn't like the random bullet deviation on DMRs

Maybe this is just me

[arctic grove]

I still got faith in summer

[wise zodiac]

EA told DICE to fix 2042, so I mean.....

[native mantle]

a handfull of people from Dice as in Dice live team and some ripple people are "working" on 2042 but not for long anyways...

[arctic grove]

Why are you surprised?

[unborn heart]

Fun fact, snipers from 1 would be totally useless on ranges where major chunk of 3 and 4 sniping was

[native mantle]

Andrew said the game is ahead of scheduel annyways...

[dense terrace]

isnt dice getting helps from many places fixing 2042 now?

[native mantle]

like there is time when we should admit whatever EA is saying is not true necesaraly...

[wise zodiac]

Ok? What's your point?

[native mantle]

infact most of the time its quite the opposite....

[vivid nacelle]

fixing the game is one thing, I hope people will return too... cant play the game when theres only bots :/

[arctic grove]

Levi might be trying to say the game was falsely advertised

[dense terrace]

hihi

[fiery shoal]

youre a god damn genius

[stoic ferry]

will sniping ever be as fun as it is with GVT now? with 6times. and silencer. mmmm the sound.

[radiant echo]

Performance is my top priority for now

[native mantle]

thats the nicest way of saying they are lying mostly...

[radiant echo]

Actually yeah

[dense terrace]

@radiant echo thats what I told my GF

[wise zodiac]

Nah, it wasn't falsely advertised.. you all saw what you got in the beta.

[stoic ferry]

rawr

[dense terrace]

[fiery shoal]

you mean specialists are in game?

[wise zodiac]

[robust stratus]

It was completely falsely advertised?? What do you mean?

[arctic grove]

What was falsely advertised?

[radiant echo]

I mean there is no way you play the beta and then expect the game to turn 180

Well

[dense terrace]

b-but old build

[radiant echo]

Beta didn't have voice lines

[arctic grove]

When new build?

[radiant echo]

[wise zodiac]

No, no it wasn't. Because the beta is a representation of the game. 95% of the time, your beta is the end of the line development before it goes live.

[dense terrace]

beta>release

[merry furnace]

ea wath

[fiery shoal]

out of the hundreds of times ive seen someone claim false advertisement, they never actually give an example of what was falsely advertised.. the closest thing was the ea dude saying 2042 was way ahead of schedule

[radiant echo]

Nah UI were awful

[native mantle]

the guy who supposed to lead the live service team ,he is working on the next game,guess why is that?!!just guess

[radiant echo]

Kill indicator

and hit markers

[dense terrace]

i dont remember. i have some clips saved i should watch

[robust stratus]

we were told the beta was a months old build, reviews were cut to only include positive wording to make the game seem better?? how is that not false advertizing

[native mantle]

its not rocket science...

[merry furnace]

battlefield 2042 BETA2

[unborn heart]

Situation with 1 and V snipers in general was, due to drag coefficient they were mostly useful in range where they would normally at least be near some kind of an objective. So maaaaybe up to 120-ish m most of time. Which was fine

[dense terrace]

ah yeh kills were on the side or something weird if i recal

[radiant echo]

hmmmmm

[native mantle]

prove me wrong tho EA/Dice and stick with 2042 and redeem yourself(wont happen till pigs start to fly)

[wise zodiac]

If you were given reviews for your product, you'd cherry pick the best reviews for your product.

Tell me I'm wrong.

[fiery shoal]

these are some very low bars of "false advertising"

[unborn heart]

If you played Sinai, attacked D and were shot at by snipers on B mountain, you essentially were golden as long as you moved

[bleak ferry]

Dice trying to defend bad work. At least EA accepts it and stays silent. Classic

[fiery shoal]

isnt filtering the best reviews to promote your game just very very.. veerrrrryy common practice?

[wise zodiac]

You'd think.

[radiant echo]

[fiery shoal]

crazy

[wise zodiac]

That should be a new bingo square.

[radiant echo]

Only thing I remember about Sinai that it was a sniper heaven 😅

[unborn heart]

Totally not something you see on every game box ever.

(bloody hell, I haven't bought a physical copy of a game in almost a decade)

[dense terrace]

they also picked some nice'ish positive out of context words and sentences out of kinda shitty reviews tho

[robust stratus]

Yes, but thats not the issue. They pulled sentences from negative reviews. "this game is the best in the series, if it would actually work" they conveniently forgot to include the if it would actually work part

[fiery shoal]

also very common...

[dense terrace]

thats not common practice

i dont recal any game that i bought that did that

[wise zodiac]

That's filtering reviews, which every single company does it. Lmao

[obsidian sigil]

Oh? Don't you own consoles?

[robust stratus]

Bad.

[unborn heart]

Not for personal use, me and controller don't really like each other

[arctic grove]

10/10 game -maddox

[fiery shoal]

common practice... its like when people forget to include the word "portal" when quoting "love letter"

[robust stratus]

bad.

[native mantle]

its called abandoning ship...

[unborn heart]

I only use controller for racing games, and I only started doing that after I testing NFS Heat in 2019

[merry furnace]

rely EA developer battlefield 2042

[wise zodiac]

Amazon customer - "This company is great, if their customer service didn't suck."

Amazon - "This company is great"

[native mantle]

sad stuff...

[obsidian sigil]

Fair enough, but don't you feel like missing out on console exclusives or you just don't care about em?

[bleak ferry]

I imagine battle pass will still last one year right? Even if it starts on March🤣

[remote rover]

I use controller for Dark Souls, that’s about it.

[fiery shoal]

yea its shady, but its not false advertising and its common... im sorry this is new to you

[wise zodiac]

Legally it has to.

[unborn heart]

Not anymore, I rarely buy games on release in first place, and most of them eventually reach PC anyway

[bleak ferry]

Thank you legal system

[dense terrace]

legal

[unborn heart]

So sure, I might miss out on something here and there, but not enough to warrant getting a console

[arctic grove]

If there was no guarantee that 2042 will redeem itself, then I would gladly abandon ship now for Battlefront III

[native mantle]

yeah cause EA declared 1 year,in singular,unlike in the past where they used plural...

[radiant echo]

Same also racing and sports and maybe 3rd person games

[robust stratus]

it quite literally is false advertising tho. They are advertising their product as good from a review saying it is bad.

[merry furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/crycat-crying-cat-crying-cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-ok-gif-22851318

[remote rover]

Ah, you play it Sergo? Which ones have you played?

[merry furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield2042-waiting-need-bf2042-battlefield-gif-22909388

[obsidian sigil]

I am actually happy that this is becoming normal, console exclusives slowly getting to pc

[radiant echo]

[dense terrace]

there is battlefront3?

[native mantle]

sorry man,respawn got star wars,stocholm is working on another bf game

[unborn heart]

My one non-racing game exception was Jedi: Fallen Order.

I struggled hard

[fossil rain]

Imagine if EA just decide to cancel the updates cause dead playerbase. People will riot

[arctic grove]

No doubt, it’s the truth… 2042 not good 100%

[robust stratus]

"False advertising is defined as the act of publishing, transmitting, or otherwise publicly circulating an advertisement containing a false, misleading, or deceptive statement, made intentionally or recklessly to promote the sale of property, goods, or services to the public." cherry picking one positive statment out of a negative review falls very within this definition

[dense terrace]

sounds like anthem™

[radiant echo]

Yeah I loved that one

[fiery shoal]

sure, by the most basic definition it is, but thats literally used in every aspect of marketing ever...

[radiant echo]

Well

They promised to stick with it

[dense terrace]

Jedi: Souls

[unborn heart]

Meanwhile, me spending an hour trying to figure out where on map am I and then getting lost anyway

[dusky blade]

Tbh picking parts of a review to make it look like an entirely different statement is a bit deceiving

[radiant echo]

exactly

[native mantle]

man be honest you would not bet a single dollar on that one

[fiery shoal]

do you also go to burger king and complain that food doesnt look like the commercials?

[fossil rain]

Has EA or DICE ever held up any promises?

[wise zodiac]

Omitting a part of a review, which everyone does, in the video game industry as well as film & other industries, is standard practice.

[radiant echo]

Welcome to souls-like games

[remote rover]

Sergo. Which ones have you played?

[radiant echo]

[robust stratus]

bad.

[unborn heart]

I don't play these for a reason I can get lost in a corridor shooter

[native mantle]

thanks for the honesty,seriusly

[radiant echo]

I mean they did turn around BF4 ,BF4 and SWBF2

[fiery shoal]

dude is gonna go to restaurants and claim false advertising since the food doesnt look like the commercials

[dense terrace]

double BF 4 !

[remote rover]

@radiant echo which ones have you played, Sergo.

[arctic grove]

I wish support continued for Battlefront II, big sad

[dusky blade]

To be fair SWBF2 as a game was never bad, neither was BF4

[radiant echo]

DS1 and DS3 and some Jedi fallen and Some indie ones

[wise zodiac]

Do you plan on suing McDonalds or Burger King for their food not looking like the commercials on TV?

[dense terrace]

coz it was double the awesome

[native mantle]

yeah but as you said they turned those around,however they abandoned 2042...

[robust stratus]

sure why not

[native mantle]

oficially they didnt,tecnhnically it happened already

[radiant echo]

Yeah I can relate

[obsidian sigil]

If this was allowed, omg i would go after every restaurant because they all lie lol

[arctic grove]

His Hamburger wasn’t glued together so it is false advertising

[native mantle]

the oficial statement will happen around summer i mean after...

[fossil rain]

I mean SWBF2 didn’t have a disastrous launch. It had more of a controversial one

[vivid nacelle]

I want a hamburger now, fk

[radiant echo]

How did they abandon 2042?

[wise zodiac]

It didn't have styrofoam or toothpicks holding it up either

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[radiant echo]

By delaying season 1?

[fiery shoal]

hes mad his pancakes didnt come with engine oil because thats what they use in the commercials...

[remote rover]

Ah. Whenever people tell me the have played, I always ask what they’re favorite boss was. What was yours in 1 and 3?

[wise zodiac]

That's just nasty.

[obsidian sigil]

Oh yeah i remember this...

[arctic grove]

And they did a u-turn so quickly once the backlash started

[arctic grove]

Think of the succulent beef, the crispy lettuce, the fresh tomatos

[dense terrace]

u can get lost in doom eternal

[native mantle]

the lead live service designer is not working on 2042

[dusky blade]

Btw the vegetables are never fresh

[wise zodiac]

That the Candy Crush guy?

[native mantle]

but im sure you can find more evidence to support this...just you need to look.. and see!

[radiant echo]

Doesn't mean they pulled the plug on it

[dusky blade]

100% frozen

[dense terrace]

according to that "town meeting" they are reorganizing

[native mantle]

its exactly what it means

[fiery shoal]

it doesnt soak like real syrup does, so they have longer to work with the content they need from it... crazy shit

[remote rover]

Ah. Whenever people tell me the have played, I always ask what they’re favorite boss was. What was yours in 1 and 3?

[radiant echo]

I don't think so

[native mantle]

hol up let me tell you his name 1 sec

[dense terrace]

candy crush guy

[radiant echo]

They doing major overhauls

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

It’s ok I like my pickles soggy and transported 500 miles in Iraq desert

[wise zodiac]

Yeah I don't pay much attention to organizational changes.

[vivid nacelle]

Iraq has deliveroo?

[wise zodiac]

No no, you don't want anything transported in the Iraqi desert. No no no.

[radiant echo]

1 :Capra demon and 3 : Nameless king cuz they were hard

[dusky blade]

We know they did

[unborn heart]

In general, most of stuff in "food" in commercials is a guaranteed trip to ER.

Yes please, I want to eat melted plastic

[remote rover]

Capra demon.

[dusky blade]

2042 will be discontinued quite fast

[native mantle]

Linus Josephson

[dense terrace]

u didnt read yesterday summary of their big meetup

[remote rover]

Capra demon. Really. I respect your opinion….but why?

[fiery shoal]

but thats FaLsE AdVerTisIng

[dusky blade]

They said the same for anthem

[radiant echo]

http://x.ea.com/72939 Doesn't seem like it imo

[fossil rain]

There is an argument to be made that EA had led the community to believe that the game was ahead despite it being not but that argument soon falls apart as the interpretation of “ahead of schedule” is hard to translate.

[dusky blade]

What happened to anthem 2.0? Anyone remember?

[wise zodiac]

That shit will melt before you get it. I bought some stuff at the PX at Speicher once, tried to bring it back to our COP. The shit melted enroute back. So mad.

[outer anchor]

they owe me 1 year of content though, I paid for it :>

[arctic grove]

Yes, there are quite a few delays tho. 7 years to get my happy meal

[native mantle]

copium....beliving everything that EA says even after it turning out to be completly false...

[dusky blade]

Remember the devs promises of the greatest updates ever before the end of the service?

[dense terrace]

all of Battlefield's development teams being restructured to ensure a more streamlined development process.

[wise zodiac]

Oh shit, I got you. Lemme go melt some plastic really quick.

[dusky blade]

Also remember BFV ending with content WE KNOW existed?

[radiant echo]

Dice =/= Bioware ; Dice atm are only working on BF and they can't just ignore the game for 2 years lol

[fiery shoal]

and once that "season" starts you will get 1 year of content

[wise zodiac]

Yeah, no idea who that is.

[radiant echo]

Well they said that then

[dusky blade]

Yes, they’re mainly working on BF7

[vivid nacelle]

The Candy crush guy

[radiant echo]

Not all of DICE

[outer anchor]

BF 7?

[radiant echo]

BF7 is far from full-production

[remote rover]

@radiant echo why Capra demon. I respect your opinion, but why?

[dusky blade]

In pre production

[wise zodiac]

OH, was I right? The lead live service guy is/was the candy crush guy?

[dense terrace]

thought Respawn is working on new BF title as main protagonist

[native mantle]

why would it be different for the live service?just think about it,nobody is playing 2042 and if you dont accept it than im sure you can imagine thats going to be the case annyways till the summer,so why invest in live service in the first place if there is no potential profit from it?!!!!cause people left the game?!

[dusky blade]

But in general ripple effect always leads post launch content

[radiant echo]

Cuz it's bad designed and I died a lot from him 😦

[radiant echo]

Which means not all of DICE

and LA

[native mantle]

the guy who should have made sure that you going to like the live service of 2042,,he is working on something else tho,,guess why is tthat?!!

[dusky blade]

I don’t see how you people see them supporting a game which won’t make money

[arctic grove]

When is Candy Crush getting a MW crossover?

[still vault]

People don't seem to understand that just because a season gets delayed, that doesn't mean they still don't get the 12 months of content they purchased access to.

[native mantle]

look up his bio hes an very old DICE DEV VET

[dense terrace]

coz he wasnt a fit for BF franchise at all?

[dusky blade]

It will make so little off skins and passes it will not be worth doing at all

[native mantle]

he aint fckn around when it comes to bf games...just saying...

[remote rover]

@radiant echo what was your favorite that you actually had fun with

[radiant echo]

We will see how it works in summer

[arctic grove]

I pay extra for it to be transported through the triangle of death

[vivid nacelle]

where is my candy crush battle royale

[radiant echo]

I didn't finish the game tbh so Idk maybe the wolf

[dusky blade]

We already know how it’ll work, it’s why they added specialists

[wise zodiac]

Fuck no you don't.

[arctic grove]

Ask and you shall receive

[dusky blade]

A pass for yearly skins, a bunch of store bundles

I can bet my life on that

[remote rover]

Sif. Respectable choice

[radiant echo]

They said they're gonna work on that

[dusky blade]

Work on what?

[native mantle]

you clearly have no idea who he is...do your research...

[dense terrace]

candy crush guy?

[dusky blade]

If they make it more consumer friendly they’ll make even less money off the small player base

[arctic grove]

Where’s Lucifer when you need him?

[native mantle]

you cant even read..aight moving on lmfao

[radiant echo]

http://x.ea.com/72939

[dusky blade]

Okay they’ve said the same for every game in the past 5 years

[unborn heart]

In breaking news, people can be assigned to more than one project/task at times

[radiant echo]

Surely they're not gonna ignore monetization

[obsidian sigil]

I just want every game texture changed to bright pink, than I would pay triple the amount of the game ultimate edition

[wise zodiac]

Say that a little louder for the people in the back.

[radiant echo]

https://tenor.com/view/easy-gif-22367924

[native mantle]

copium...look if i end up wrong i will buy you a few drinks,and we both wish that i will end up wrong...

[fossil trench]

Honestly I would rather DICE fix everything wrong with the game before they make new content

[spiral lake]

lol @unborn heart I was having this discussion on steam, people think that devs moving from one project to the next is the end of support ( not realising that there are multiple dev teams in one studio )

[wise zodiac]

Last I checked, that's what they're doing.

[radiant echo]

That's exactly what they're doing

[dusky blade]

I’m just 100% sure it will go exactly how I’m thinking, it’s been the same thing every year and this won’t be different

[dense terrace]

https://www.xfire.com/ea-acknowledges-battlefield-2042-failure-post-motem/ and this about town hall meeting (some of it probably is truth:>)

[arctic grove]

They have guys analyzing specialists? That’s interesting, I’d like to see how that goes in the future, still got hope for 2042 although it’s a bumpy ride

[unborn heart]

It's not copium, it's what you discover within first 2 months of entering gamedev

[wise zodiac]

Wait, there was a town hall meeting?

I'm so out of the loop.

[dense terrace]

yes, they voted on sus dev

[arctic grove]

But yet you continue to buy EVERY year🤦‍♂️

[wise zodiac]

Oh shit. Like, they got kicked out the airlock?

[dense terrace]

no, its the medieval version!

[wise zodiac]

We talking AMONG US sus?

[unborn heart]

Yeah, it's a gift that keeps on giving. Just like people are totally unaware of existence and purpose of support studios

[wise zodiac]

Cause red be HELLA sus

[dense terrace]

town of salem

[wise zodiac]

Witch trials? Oof.

[still vault]

Omg, what will be the next thing, that graphics character designers are not effective at graphics engine optimization and therefore can't be moved from making skins to optimizing the game?
(sarcasm detected)

[radiant echo]

Ok I'm gonna throw a bomb rn

[native mantle]

ok so i know he aint in charge of the live service,lets pretend im wrong and you are right,so whos in charge of it cause he had the xp clearly for it?! who can match his skills and taking the same task?!

[dense terrace]

u dont get thrown out of airlock. u get hanged 🙂

[arctic grove]

[unborn heart]

And standing up for support studios in conversations is a hill I'm willing to die on, even more so when I'm part of one of them

[native mantle]

give me something to work with...i gave you something...

[fossil rain]

If EA and DICE do want to atleast save 2042 and their already damaged reputation from failing, they really need to deliver on Season 1 content

[radiant echo]

[native mantle]

name the person who took the role from him!??

[dense terrace]

Bob from the support

[wise zodiac]

No no, more like, they want voice actors to start working on map creation.

[dense terrace]

throw Metro screen too

[arctic grove]

It’s inevitable… shame the specialist are in the picture

[remote rover]

Yo is that the one map from BF4?

[radiant echo]

Dozer

[unborn heart]

I don't know, because I don't have DICE SE structure committed to memory, but even if someone else is assigned to 2042 live service, you can bet all the money you have on them communicating with anyone with previous experience in the field a lot

[remote rover]

The prison. It looks similar

[dense terrace]

C5.

[radiant echo]

yeah

Locker

[arctic grove]

Operation Locker

[native mantle]

i know you wont be able to give me a name cause that person doesnt exist...and we both know why...

[obsidian sigil]

Guys, you are all wrong. Battlefield 2042 is made by a team of raccoons! That's why there are SO MANY raccoon emoji's!

Say hi to the dev team!

[unborn heart]

Because that's literally how it works for any position

[native mantle]

copium

[dense terrace]

i thought its cat vs raccoon

[fossil trench]

Just revisiting the viral Reddit thread listing everything missing in BF2042. Vast majority of the missing features on the list still aren’t in the game.

[still vault]

"Listen up, I know you are all in accounting, but now we need you to do backend network optimization for a month!"

[native mantle]

we get back to this not much after the summer...

[unborn heart]

...because they might not have Twitter presence and thus don't exist?

[radiant echo]

Reminds me

[remote rover]

Yeah, Operation Locker. I am happy it’s going to be in 2042, it was a decent map

[radiant echo]

Well 😦

Not sure about it being in 2042

[obsidian sigil]

Wtf? Love it 😂

[unborn heart]

One thing I love about missing features thread... actually, two

[dense terrace]

honestly i would rather have them look like that

[radiant echo]

It's just fan made

[radiant echo]

[native mantle]

yeah sure,everything but the fact that live service the way it was planed is canceled...

[radiant echo]

Took me hours

[native mantle]

everything else is more likely,right?!like the game ahead of scheduel or old build etc..all those were also more likely...

[unborn heart]

One, if all were in game at once, it would be a shambles.

Two, many people called for a good number of them to never show up in 2042 pre-release

[wise zodiac]

"PAYROLL, START WORK ON VEHICLE BALANCING!"

[remote rover]

Oooh, that’s a fan made thing. That’s fine

[dense terrace]

no balance no food !!!!'1'1'

[unborn heart]

Except it wasn't, you're literally making things up to fit the narrative based on scraps

[native mantle]

yes the Linus Josephson is a made up person

[radiant echo]

Vehicles in BF4 be like :Hard to learn and hard to master

[still vault]

"Listen up, you are the CLEANING STAFF - that now includes improving the in-game Frostbite garbage collection as well!"

[dense terrace]

stuff is majorly delayed yeah but not cancelled. on that note im off

[native mantle]

i have an angenda here cause im getting payed by EA to do this come on try harder next time...

[radiant echo]

Quite the opposite of 2042

[native mantle]

lmfao

[unborn heart]

Which actually falls into another thing I love, people ignoring a lot of dev team shifting during and after development of any AAA game and then only noticing that happens when it fits their narrative about state of the game

[fossil trench]

Vehicle balancing in BF4? Haha good joke

[arctic grove]

5 studios, 1 game, 3 years development = worse maps, specialist (which nobody really cares about), crap vehicles, handful of useless weapons, less features, no naval combat and still no DLC/Battle-pass

[unborn heart]

Still better than in 3, to be fair

[radiant echo]

Wait for real

Can you drive (master) AH

[obsidian sigil]

'Duo to budgeting issue, we cut out 60% of our team. From now on you will also be working on Rigging for this project, you got this!'

Front end developer staring confused at manager

[arctic grove]

Viper on shanghai 😬

[fossil trench]

The attack heli still broken as hell

[radiant echo]

Agreed

[arctic grove]

Jesus Christ does not Judge others.

[radiant echo]

Rockets are

But it's hard to master

[unborn heart]

If my PM told me that I'm doing QA from now, I would tell them to better start praying, pronto, because this train just went off the rails

[radiant echo]

Not anyone can jump in and turn the match around

Unlike 2042

It's so easy

[fossil trench]

Rockets don’t do anything when the passenger just snipes people across the map with the thermal sight.

[unborn heart]

And also would ask since when Madrid went from LQA to QA

[arctic grove]

It’s a game tho

[obsidian sigil]

'IT KEEPS CRASHING AND IDK WHAT THE CAUSE IS!' lol

[arctic grove]

I joined a Shanghai game earlier and there was a viper pilot on 200 kills lel

[wise zodiac]

"Cafeteria staff! You keep feeding us!"

"Human Resources! Start having your team work on weapon and vehicle creation! Let's move!!!"

[radiant echo]

Ah that's OP for sure

But still

Depends on the drivers

And if the enemy team have enough engineers

[unborn heart]

God bless QA folks looking at my localization JIRAs

[fossil trench]

Part of me is relieved that thermal sights aren’t in BF2042

[vivid nacelle]

Yet

[fossil trench]

That shit is so broken

[mental cave]

cyberpunk 2077 is on sale for 25 bucks. Good deal or wait longer?

[stuck gust]

Maximum copium

[radiant echo]

agreed

[obsidian sigil]

Hehehe, i don't think i will ever have the mindset to be a good QA.. i don't have that kind of patience for it

[radiant echo]

If your up to a Ubisoft game with great story it is

[wise zodiac]

I'm just over here like, "this thing broke....."

[hazy ruin]

somtimes on epic games they hv 10$ coupons

[vivid nacelle]

I hope for a true night map in bf2042

[unborn heart]

QA folks are worth their weight in gold and very few people really understand just how much they do

[arctic grove]

I bought it just for the customisable package

[radiant echo]

[fossil trench]

Getting that 200 kill streak in the gunner seat with every player on the map literally highlighted 💀

[wise zodiac]

I heard a lot of QA folks are interns and not paid.

[obsidian sigil]

Yeah but i also heard hell stories of people trying for days to re-create a specific event that triggered a bug... hell no fuck that lmao

[radiant echo]

Yeah not good

But SMAWs should work

[wise zodiac]

Like, industry wide; not specifically EA/DICE.

[unborn heart]

Depends on company and country. Also afaik external QA tends to have it worse

[obsidian sigil]

Funny how people say 'Nah they are easily replaceable, i will do it my self to save money'

[wise zodiac]

That's a fucking shame.

I know QA is a bitch.

[unborn heart]

Also something worth pointing out

[full sleet]

https://twitter.com/TheActMan_YT/status/1494058061253816327?t=qBAL3aJQLTe4d2Cg4l0J1A&s=19

[radiant echo]

[unborn heart]

Even in games released in most miserable state, you can be sure QA caught at least 90-95% of issues present in development

[arctic grove]

[unborn heart]

Also, what people miss a lot is that QA's and player's definition of "major issue"... well, tend to differ.

[radiant echo]

Interesting

[arctic grove]

If 5% of bugs was bf2042 release I wouldn’t wish 100% on my worst enemy

[unborn heart]

If you had 100% of issues of any game in development ever, your PC would probably brick itself

[arctic grove]

That doesn’t sound to bad

[radiant echo]

Frostbite is pain

[arctic grove]

I was envisioning a deep fiery hell

[full sleet]

https://www.somosxbox.com/electronic-arts-cree-que-halo-infinite-tiene-parte-de-culpa-del-fracaso-de-battlefield-2042/929142 direct link

[obsidian sigil]

I think this is an guarantee even lol

[arctic grove]

A lot of people complaining about the bugs in 2042 until they realised the core gameplay feels totally off, now the bugs aren’t even in the conversation

[wise zodiac]

QAs job isn't focus group, though.

Focus group should be going out and seeing what the playerbase wants and providing it to the development team.

The development team should be implementing those focus group ideas into the game, and QA should be testing them.

[unborn heart]

I mean, game sure as hell ain't launching because <insert X blockers here>, how much of a shambles it results in on top of it is another story

[wise zodiac]

And if there are bugs, QA should be reporting said bugs back so the dev team can fix it.

[unborn heart]

Obviously, what I'm saying is, people are completely unaware of QA's purpose and severity system being rooted in something else than end player's average experience

[fossil rain]

I wish DICE would bring back to the CTE

[obsidian sigil]

I created a game in UE4 with an object that was supposed to have other textures every 5 minutes but it changed every 0.05 second which just over flooded the GPU with too much info which just gave up and showed a blue screen every time i pressed on 'play' hehehehe fun times

[unborn heart]

Which is why a lot of common community bug reports will be Minor/Trivial

If blocker made its way through, yeaaah, fun times

[wise zodiac]

No, I get it. I get what you're saying.

I'm saying that a good majority of gamers don't understand the importance and/or difference between these groups

[unborn heart]

Localization technically can have blockers too, but more common "oh shit" moment for us would be a first party violation

Aka big part of the reason why console is more of a pain for localization than PC even with same UI proportions

[obsidian sigil]

Hmm... never thought about localization also having bigger problems than some words that don't exist in another language

[wise zodiac]

I'd hate to be localization.

Translations being off must be a pain in the ass.

[unborn heart]

I really love life when I remember, again, that first party term for party on PS makes no sense in Polish

[real owl]

The battlefield 2042 trailer is so good😂

[outer anchor]

yeah thats the only thing good about it

[unborn heart]

Depends, I'd say. If I had to pick, anything first party is the worst, because it's a lot of terminology you can do nothing about. It must be that way, period

Translations for other stuff, you can fix if you spot the problem soon enough, that's half the fun

[arctic grove]

@unborn heart hopefully season 1 makes a come back; I seriously consider battlefield rising from the dead if Season 1 comes clutch, hopefully

[wise zodiac]

Someone made a funny joke about the guy missing the jet when he tries to get back in

[unborn heart]

Ah yeah, I remember that one

[wise zodiac]

Fucking die laughing every time.

You just hear the window streak.

Lmfao

[mental cave]

I like my games with a little CTE

[unborn heart]

Actually, I remembered the second most painful thing now

[outer anchor]

I cant stand the sound of turrets at every corner I turn

[unborn heart]

Very low character limit on anything

Because English typically is shorter than almost all localized EU languages

[obsidian sigil]

Oh god, is that really also a thing in game dev? That ssuuuuccckkkkssss

[arctic grove]

The Boris turrent definitely needs a nerf/balancing. Those things are annoying, also the bolts and vehicles should have a cooldown/balance per player

Some players camp vehicles in main menu

[unborn heart]

Also, making sure voiceover for loc is of similar length to source if it's part of a timed dialogue

[outer anchor]

its the fact that every single person uses boris now

[unborn heart]

It can be, for UI in particular

If there is little space for a warning on the screen, you can't exactly slap a poem in the middle of someone's interface

[arctic grove]

I remember battlefield required a certain amount of kills before you were allowed to use a certain vehicle in infantry, that be nice

[obsidian sigil]

Pfff... welp good thing i suck ass in all 3 languages i speak so i will never become a translator lol

[wise zodiac]

You totally should.

Make it into a Rick Roll.

[unborn heart]

Well, loc isn't translation, we review translations

[arctic grove]

If 128 people used Boris, the game would be nearly impossible to rotate, many people would be fighting turrents more than players lmao

[unborn heart]

I actually "smuggled" myself into Polish PvZ: Battle for Neighborville and NFS Heat, fun fact

[obsidian sigil]

Oh, it isn't? My bad didn't know

[wise zodiac]

Yo, wait, what? Lmao

[obsidian sigil]

What is PvZ?

[wise zodiac]

Plants v Zombies

[unborn heart]

on PvZ I got green light to tweak PL name of one of NPC zombies who ran Simon Says minigame

[obsidian sigil]

Ohh nicee

[unborn heart]

In English he's called Winston because... idk. In Polish he's Szymon (so Simon)

[spiral lake]

hi

you Call me @unborn heart ? 😛

[wise zodiac]

... did you literally name it Rick Astley?

You should've

[unborn heart]

And in NFS Heat one of races is called Spitfire in Polish. Some race names were untranslatable, so we got a bit, er, creative

[remote rover]

What are we talking about now?

[obsidian sigil]

What is 'Lactose intolerant' in Polish? Might come in useful for my weak belly lmao

[unborn heart]

Also, some achievements in Polish for Heat are references to us being, er, not so good at testing

[obsidian sigil]

Hehe nice

[potent axle]

Scamfield 2042

[unborn heart]

"Drift, Drift, Drift" achievement in NFS Heat for completing all drift challenges roughly translates to "Crop circles" in Polish due to how often we would go off track and into the fields to stretch the drift (because we were bad)

[obsidian sigil]

Lol

So... racing games just isn't your thing?

[unborn heart]

I enjoy NFS franchise, although that's a story for different channel. I just need to get a lot of repetition in. I'm a way better racer than drifter

[spiral lake]

I prefer DIRT over NFS but NFS is still good.. ngl.

[native mantle]

do you know anything about the next game?!

you can say yes even if you wont be able to share lol

[unborn heart]

Even if I did, I wouldn't randomly say it in a public Discord

[spiral lake]

I just want Dirt Rally 3.0, I've been sinking some good time in 2.0 lately

[native mantle]

yeah thats what i meant lol..

[obsidian sigil]

I enjoyed heat way more than expected, i am not really a racing person but still had a blast

[native mantle]

with the not able to share part..

[unborn heart]

Saying "yes" and "no" is also sharing, for the record

[white geyser]

All that waiting for season 1 update in summer, is gonna make us ape shit until we get what we want.

[outer anchor]

nfs was good back in the days

[unborn heart]

Either way, I work on Apex loc these days, that's my focus

[native mantle]

eh,,, cant blame me for tryng lmfao...hoped you will slip up lmfao

[arctic grove]

Forget about 2042 and NFS, the real game everyone wants to know about is a potential new Peggle game. Clearly GOTY if it releases

[remote rover]

I never liked Peggle.

[viscid wyvern]

@unborn heart not in a rude way, but is “localization tester” just a fancy term for translator or is it in reference to something technical

[unborn heart]

I have too much respect for folks developing games to blabber stuff randomly. It's basic decency.

(also, I appreciate having a job)

[arctic grove]

Then you shall go to hell…

Jk I don’t care for Peggle, even tho it was fun back in the day

[native mantle]

F

[unborn heart]

Localization tester is a step after translation. We review translations and their in-game implementations

[arctic grove]

[white geyser]

[viscid wyvern]

gotcha

[fossil trench]

Has Alex been here lately?

[native mantle]

you have Shaw as pfp so you realy must like nfs,right?!

[arctic grove]

You do any localisation testing for any other companies or just exclusively EA?

[unborn heart]

My first game was NFS II. But again, subject for other channel

[native mantle]

if only you could tell me if my worries are based or not...i have a very very very bad feeling about 2022nfs ngl

nfs2se mine...

[unborn heart]

EA, I'm a part of EA Spain studio, which mostly focuses on providing localization support to EA products

[native mantle]

so brothers in arms...i played every single nfs and every bf game ever released for pc...

[arctic grove]

[unborn heart]

We have a bit of cert and QA, but it's mostly loc

[arctic grove]

Arms in brothers, Speed for Need, Fieldbattle

[native mantle]

ok lead me my master,il follow

it will have actuall pvp this time i guess i mean multiplayer cause heat had literally barebone multi system..like bare minimum

[unborn heart]

I don't think I'll be leading anyone anywhere, as I'm about to go to sleep. I don't want to make going to sleep after 2 AM a habit. But for future, #other-games is the go-to for non-Battlefield game convos

[obsidian sigil]

Anyways thanks for chatting Spitfire, learned many fun things off you. But sadly it is 2AM and time to sleep :(.. goodnight!

[unborn heart]

Good night

[wise zodiac]

How dare you appreciate your job.

[native mantle]

this im 100% criterion wont repeate ghost's mistake

[remote rover]

Goodnight, whoever you are.

[native mantle]

gn

[unborn heart]

God forbid I would enjoy what I'm doing

[wise zodiac]

I know, right? How dare you.

Lmao

[arctic grove]

ok.

[unborn heart]

I switched from slowly wilting in biotech for a reason. Lucky I gave myself enough of a chance to do it in first place

[arctic grove]

Any idea how to cap FPS in this game?

Also, any idea when they will fix the calibration redo bug? Because it resets my settings

[remote rover]

Why would you want to cap FPS?

[arctic grove]

💀 god damn

[remote rover]

Well. Would you explain instead of simply saying “god damn”.

[arctic grove]

You up? 🙃

He's probably in lala land now lol humans fall asleep in 10 minutes

Whose up

This chat is ghost town

[fierce gull]

I heard you guys give out free muffins at dice so I'm buying a plane ticket to Sweden

[arctic grove]

Lol for the muffins 🤣🤣