battlefield-2042

[dusky blade]

People saying it’s a step in the right direction? At what point is a step taken?

Nothing is happening and nothing will happen, ever

[arctic grove]

Waste of time if you ask me.. chances are it'll just get ignored like every other attack towards EA lmao

[arctic grove]

Allegedly a lawyer has agreed to sue if it gets to 50k

[arctic grove]

shiver me timbers

49,953

a lawyer! so spooky

Ok?

[dusky blade]

HAHAHA I feel bad for the lawyer and the guy paying

[copper fulcrum]

There's no case lmao

[grizzled whale]

People still think that petition is gonna do anything?

[copper fulcrum]

You're honor, people signed a petition

And?

You're honor... bad.

[arctic grove]

all of those people that signed that petition gonna feel real stupid when nothing happens lolol

[edgy oriole]

dont feel bad for the lawyer. he doing the hustle lmao.

[dusky blade]

He will pay TONS for the lawyer, the lawyer will get embarrassed and tarnish his career, then the guy will pay EA in damages

[copper fulcrum]

He just takes the money and runs

[arctic grove]

I already feel stupid for buying the game. Petition took seconds to sign

[dusky blade]

Provided any of that will happen, which it won’t, the case will be denied

[arctic grove]

a petition that I'll never be signing

[dusky blade]

There’s no basis to go off

What are they suing for lmfao

[copper fulcrum]

Any actual lawyer will see the petition and laugh at the people who signed it

[arctic grove]

There's no case for that dumb shit to go through with anyways lmao..

[arctic grove]

No one cares what you do, sweetie

[edgy oriole]

ill sign the petition I love feeling included in memes

[arctic grove]

Don't call me that. I'm a dude

[grizzled whale]

Its hardly believable at best, and even if that so called "one of the best class action lawyers in the country" is gonna take this case to ea FOR FREE, ea will throw 20 lawyers at it and the case will be dismissed

But that so called best lawyer isnt gonna go fight ea for free

[gloomy rune]

why not? some people feel scammed

[arctic grove]

It's 2022, no one's a dude anymore

[dusky blade]

It makes the community look dumb

[copper fulcrum]

They are

[gloomy rune]

Why?

[dusky blade]

Bruh

[arctic grove]

Because they disagree

[arctic grove]

Because its a stupid waste of time that'll literally do nothing?

[dusky blade]

Literally just proved my point

[glossy storm]

Who is this lawyer? Saul Goodman?

[copper fulcrum]

Saul Badman

[arctic grove]

Don't bother @gloomy rune

Free speech happened

[arctic grove]

lmao

[dusky blade]

No can I ask, what are we suing for

[glossy storm]

I thought you got banned.

[dusky blade]

Are we suing for damages? Or what

[arctic grove]

I believe the claim is false advertising

[arctic grove]

Muted for a day

[arctic grove]

i know!!! we are sueing for uhhhhhh uhhhhhh what was it again? oh yeah. literally nothing

[gloomy rune]

It's accessible, and it's what we can do, and that what's change.org does
Why did you call it stupid?

[copper fulcrum]

There's no case for false advertising lmao

[arctic grove]

Because of the fact its not gonna do shit is why i called it stupid

[glossy storm]

IIRC, the petition is asking EA to give refunds.

[dusky blade]

They advertised battlefield, with hazard zone / AOW / portal. Featuring specialists

You got exactly what was advertised

[arctic grove]

In your opinion, I'm sure there isn't

[edgy oriole]

yeah to sue they gonna have to dig a little deeper than that. false advert isnt going to go anywhere.

[copper fulcrum]

I still keep asking where this is and I have seen absolutely nothing where this false advertising is

[dusky blade]

What part of it is false advertising

[dense terrace]

49,794 have signed. Let’s get to 50,000!

[copper fulcrum]

They promised, a big battlefield game with 128 players, you got that. You weren't jipped, scammed, etc.

[arctic grove]

There is no false advertising involved.. they showed what was in the game lmaooo

[edgy oriole]

"subject to change" "cinematic trailer" they are immune

[glossy storm]

If you watch the trailers closely, there was no false advertising.

[arctic grove]

The question isn't about that, those who are trying to bring suit are alleging that DICE cannot deliver it's promised gold and ultimate edition contents

[dusky blade]

People be like: I don’t like the game mechanics, must be false advertising

[copper fulcrum]

I'm gonna go sue Honey Nut Cheerios because it's false advertising

[arctic grove]

But you guys keep shouting ignorance, it's cool

[dusky blade]

And it’s coming, they never specified the time period of the year, nor have they said it’s cancelled

They could start it December - December 2023 if they so want to

[arctic grove]

waaah waaaah i dislike one tiny bug with my specialist, must be false advertising

[glossy storm]

Some people claim that specialists weren't there in the reveal trailer. Which is false because you can see them in multiple scenes, just in different and, IMO, more appropriate military skins.

[edgy oriole]

Ive already got my year 1 pass and my skins for getting gold though? ive been delivered what i paid for. lmao.

[copper fulcrum]

All the skins they wore are in the game

[dusky blade]

There’s a reason they word their contracts so specifically

[gloomy rune]

Dude, it means that you didn't get the point.
If it's do nothing. that's totally OK since it's what petition does. look around the newsletter, everyone talk about it

[grizzled whale]

Again, no lawyer that can call themselves one of the best in the country is gonna take on ea for free cuz 50k people signed a change.org petition

[glossy storm]

Yeah, just not the default ones.

[arctic grove]

"year one" is within first calendar year. So while they may be able to squeeze 4 sessions in 8 months, that remains to be determined

[dusky blade]

They never specified that

[copper fulcrum]

Paik and Angel are the only ones that wore their default clothes to the trailer

[arctic grove]

Oh no i do get the point. I'm still gonna call it stupid because of the fact alone it can't do shit

[dusky blade]

You can’t assume off the base definition of words alone, it’s far more complex

[arctic grove]

They did, actually.

[copper fulcrum]

And we're still within year 1

[dusky blade]

They specified the content will be for this year, and won’t go into next year at all?

[arctic grove]

well technically. sundance wore an outfit thats IN the game, just its a reskinned version of her T1

I don't know why you guys are coming at me so hostile I'm just relaying information so why don't you just chill the fuck out?

[dusky blade]

If they did not say it word for word you are in the wrong

It’s not hostility, it’s just proving a point, a point of misinformation

[arctic grove]

because petition for refunds goes nowhere

[copper fulcrum]

I believe their wingsuit uniform for the trailer is the one you get for T4

[arctic grove]

So that gives you guys the right to be hostile to someone for talking about it?

[grizzled whale]

Would be funny if that lawyer turns out to be thomas binger

[arctic grove]

lmao

[copper fulcrum]

We're not laughing at you, we're laughing at the people who think this is going to do shit.

[dusky blade]

[grizzled whale]

Ya know, the guy that used kyle rittenhouse's gamertag as a point in court

[glossy storm]

Even Paik, in her default outfit, had her back turned to the camera. Mackay and Sundance had their helmets on.

[dusky blade]

Damn I said it word for word

[arctic grove]

Yeah, that's called an attempt to CYA

[copper fulcrum]

BFV also had 4 seasons in the first year

[dusky blade]

Live service just stinks man

[arctic grove]

Now go read the sales pages for gold and ultimate editions.

Cherry pick less

[dusky blade]

Battlefield 2042 is a first-person shooter that marks the return to the iconic all-out warfare of the franchise. Adapt and overcome in a near-future world transformed by disorder. Squad up and bring a cutting-edge arsenal into dynamically-changing battlegrounds supporting 128 players*, unprecedented scale, and epic destruction.

That’s it

[arctic grove]

Why yes, I am infact an Ultimate Edition owner of 2042.

[copper fulcrum]

🤝

[gloomy rune]

The news is everywhere, do you know what it means?

[dusky blade]

Then the gold and ultimate mention a year of content

The time span is never specified

[dense terrace]

epic destruction.

[arctic grove]

I do infact. but it's still not gonna do anything

Oook 👍

[copper fulcrum]

Money well spent in my case, S135 lol

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[copper fulcrum]

I just beat BF1 in total time

[arctic grove]

And you're allowed to feel that way, so are the people who feel they got ripped off.

[arctic grove]

if they feel like that, then that's their problem

[copper fulcrum]

and I laugh at their 'problems' when they consider that their 'problem'

[arctic grove]

It's not though, you're just incredibly biased and closed minded

[dusky blade]

It’s wack that people think companies care about them at all

[edgy oriole]

I wish i couldve gotten a refund on far cry 6 😦

[dense terrace]

where is that epic destruction they speak of? coming in season 1?

[dusky blade]

Also a tad funny

[copper fulcrum]

What's that, companies making products for money?

[arctic grove]

Is it bad? No one I know bought it

[copper fulcrum]

Unheard of

[dusky blade]

Now they must give all the money back, because they just do

[copper fulcrum]

It's more Far Cry. It feels like a mix of Far Cry 3 and New Dawn really

[edgy oriole]

i wouldnt call it bad just i dont enjoy it. too arcady for me.

[grizzled whale]

If you can find me a page where it says WHEN year 1 starts, your point is somewhat true

[copper fulcrum]

My only problem is the lack of player Upgrades

[grizzled whale]

But they never stated when year 1 starts, untill now

[dusky blade]

Far cry 6’s trailer tho

[arctic grove]

Oh no. So no survival aspects?

[dusky blade]

Badass

[edgy oriole]

2042 needs better maps and they also need to add a filter to make the environment darker.

[copper fulcrum]

Typically Far Cry has it so that you don't start off being able to chain takedown and death from above or whatever, but now I don't know what the fuck I can do for takedowns

[dusky blade]

Ehh battlefield doesn’t need to be inherently dark, nothing wrong with an arcadey tone

[copper fulcrum]

You can only paint the same painting before it gets bland

[dusky blade]

Just don’t make it cring with cring voice lines and the such

Also stick to battlefields core gameplay because that’s what battlefield is

cring

[hardy leaf]

there are lot of ''only problems'' in this game from all community , which has piled up so higher that there is no redemption from this point

[arctic grove]

Fair. I'll wait for the inevitable sale

[grizzled whale]

Its nothing but logical that "year 1" starts when season 1 starts

[edgy oriole]

not really. i was never worried about dying or anything. or needing mats to build healing for lack of bullets. just felt like something to hop on and kill people which are bullet sponges.

[copper fulcrum]

I was talking about Far Cry 6 in that message

[hardy leaf]

i sense bf2042 coming to PS+, gamepass, EA Play this year

[arctic grove]

So if they wait 5 years to release season 1, that's not false advertising to you.

K.

👍

[dusky blade]

It’s not

[arctic grove]

It’s not

[copper fulcrum]

Didn't BFV get added to EA Access in like a year after it came out?

[arctic grove]

Lmao

[arctic grove]

Pretty sure

[dusky blade]

It is not a basis for anything, so you even know what false advertising is

[grizzled whale]

5 years =/= 4 months

[hardy leaf]

only thing worse than the game is the people who defend it with their life

[copper fulcrum]

We talking dog years?

[arctic grove]

Exaggeration, obviously.

[dusky blade]

A misrepresentation or lies of a product or item and not meeting or ensuring any promises are met ever made before launch

[grizzled whale]

Which invalidates your entire point

[arctic grove]

Yes because i defend the game I spent my moneys worth on (ultimate enjoyer btw)

[dusky blade]

Something like that

[arctic grove]

Ok

[copper fulcrum]

I just enjoy the game, that's all

[arctic grove]

Then go enjoy the game

[copper fulcrum]

I mostly enjoy the hate I get for posting clips online about me destroying vehicles as Sundance

[hardy leaf]

lmfao, so you got the front seat for watching this trainwreck

[grizzled whale]

The reason for delaying the start makes sense, theres a good reason for it to be later, that doesnt make it false advertisement

[surreal crystal]

Eyo wats poppin

[hardy leaf]

i would try to play again if the game isnt dead in my region, no one plays in Asia

[arctic grove]

I'm not going to beat a dead horse with you anymore. You go think your right, I don't really care. Lol

[copper fulcrum]

This Russian Tank once I put my C5 on it

[grizzled whale]

You dont have any solid arguments to back up your accusations

[hardy leaf]

good reason for it to be later? the season 1 will still suck, and will be full of bugs crashes and server issues

[arctic grove]

Thinking he’s right? Wrong. He IS right lmaooo

50,743

[copper fulcrum]

Skipper is right

[grizzled whale]

And you can see into the future how?

[hardy leaf]

by analyzing the past and recent trends

[dusky blade]

Your opinions don’t invalidate laws lol

“I think it’s false advertising because I don’t like the game”
That won’t work in the law of court

[arctic grove]

Show me the law you're referencing. Lol

[arctic grove]

Oh no! It hit 50 thousand! I’m so happy! Now realize that your petition was a waste of time

[copper fulcrum]

Facts don't care about your feelings.

[dusky blade]

Okay be a minute

[copper fulcrum]

Yes, I'm referencing that guy

[arctic grove]

I've got all night

[surreal crystal]

Eyo my guys is getting grilled

[grizzled whale]

Now the creator of that petition is fucking stressed out cuz he has to find a lawyer that will go against EA for free

[arctic grove]

:KEKW:

Yeah, if people who disliked the game jumped a person like this they'd all get banned

Fuckin nitro bs

[copper fulcrum]

We're not jumping on you lmao

[arctic grove]

Wouldn’t consider this jumping.. it’s more like you are having facts spit into your fuckin ears

[copper fulcrum]

You're shouting at us and we're going "shh"

[mental cave]

I'd charge extra because its really a hail mary

[dusky blade]

Misleading or deceptive conduct

It is illegal for a business to engage in conduct that misleads or deceives or is likely to mislead or deceive consumers or other businesses. This law applies even if you did not intend to mislead or deceive anyone or no one has suffered any loss or damage as a result of your conduct.

Example: A customer is deciding whether to buy a new photo printing device and seeks advice from the electronic section of a department store. The customer mentions the brand of computer they have and buys the photo printing device on the advice of the retailer. However, the device is not compatible with the customer’s computer.

The retail assistant knew it was not compatible yet did not advise the customer about this. His conduct might be considered misleading by silence or omission as he did not disclose information that would have significantly changed the customer’s mind about buying the product.

It is illegal for a business to make statements that are incorrect or likely to create a false impression. This includes advertisements or statements in any media (print, radio, television, social media and online) or on product packaging, and any statement made by a person representing your business.

For example, your business must not make false or misleading claims about the quality, value, price, age or benefits of goods or services, or any associated guarantee or warranty. Using false testimonials or ‘passing off’ (impersonating another business) is also illegal.

When assessing whether conduct is likely to mislead or deceive, consider whether the overall impression created by the conduct is false or inaccurate.

Fine print and qualifications

Businesses can't rely on small print and disclaimers as an excuse for a misleading overall message. For example, an advertisement states that a product is ‘free’ but the fine print indicates some payment must be made.

[grizzled whale]

Junping someone =/= disproving your claims with facts and logic

[arctic grove]

HAHA! THERE IT IS

[copper fulcrum]

Oh wow it didn't?

[dusky blade]

If your business needs to qualify its advertisements, make sure the qualifying statements are clear and prominent so that consumers know what the real offer is.

Substantiate your advertising claims

[arctic grove]

Apparently 0

[surreal crystal]

Not reading that lol

[hardy leaf]

no its not, shows how frustrated people are with this game, im sure it will affect future decisions taken by the devs and then maybe no game will be launched in a state like this one did

[arctic grove]

@dusky blade that's not citing a law, that's copy pasting a wiki

[dusky blade]

Comparative advertising

Comparative advertising may be used to promote the superiority of your products or services over competitors as long as it is accurate. The comparison may relate to factors such as price, quality, range or volume.

Bait advertising

Bait advertising is the illegal practice of advertising specific prices (usually special ‘sale’ prices) on goods that are not available or are available only in very limited quantities (where this limit is not clearly and specifically disclosed).

You should only offer goods or services at a ‘special price’ if they are available in reasonable quantities for a reasonable period, unless you state clearly that the good is in short supply or on sale for a limited time.

Country of origin

It is illegal under the Australian Consumer Law to make false or misleading claims about the country of origin of goods.

[grizzled whale]

Getting into a discussion with 5 people that dont share your vision is not being jumped

[surreal crystal]

Stay mad

[copper fulcrum]

He still going! What!?

[dusky blade]

It is from the official acc.gov website regarding legal action done on false advertising and what qualifies for it

[arctic grove]

Yeahh about that.. that little petition isn’t going anywhere lol

[copper fulcrum]

I thought a bot muted people for posting that many lines in so little time

[dusky blade]

You said you have all night, you’ll have the time to read it

[grizzled whale]

Fr

[arctic grove]

So cite the law

[copper fulcrum]

He literally did, dude

[dusky blade]

I just posted qualifications for false advertising and when / how legal action can be taken

[surreal crystal]

Bring judge dredd

[arctic grove]

You realize laws have titles and sections... Right?

You guys reckon that the judge for this petition will be judge Judy?

[copper fulcrum]

Alright so let's post the entire legal document

[dusky blade]

That’s all the significant ones

[copper fulcrum]

Fuck it why not? We already posted 30-40 lines about it.

[surreal crystal]

Haha

[hardy leaf]

Microsoft please buy EA already

[dusky blade]

It mentions titles such as small print, baiting, etc

[arctic grove]

No, just title and section will suffice

[surreal crystal]

Couch legal experts here

[dusky blade]

Any legal action must take place under one of these and then be broken down from there

[hardy leaf]

jobless legal advisors here

[arctic grove]

So no then?

[surreal crystal]

Haha true

[arctic grove]

? I have a job

[hardy leaf]

when did i refer to you particularly

[dusky blade]

It’s not possible to find specifics and official legal docs on public gov websites lol

[arctic grove]

heh

[arctic grove]

Hmm you didn’t. But I prefer to include myself considering the fact you put “advisors” which means more than one advisor :>

Don't know how to cite a law or quote but totally know the law.

Gotcha

[dusky blade]

[arctic grove]

Gg

[hardy leaf]

more than one doesnt include you neccessarily

[surreal crystal]

This thing bussin right now

[dusky blade]

This is an official BRUH moment

[copper fulcrum]

[arctic grove]

Man. 2042 bussin rn

[mental cave]

in a court you dont even cite titles and sections you'll usually refer to common law, references to past rulings of similar cases within the jurisdiction of the court. So if the lawsuit happens within jurisdiction of a court that has ruled in favor of the people in a similar situation like 2042. more than likely the lawsuit would be won. I studied business law to qualify for my degree

[jolly island]

y'all still playing this game?

[arctic grove]

Yeah?

[surreal crystal]

Nah we talking laws

[copper fulcrum]

Yep

[arctic grove]

Ok, and they didn't do that, so 🤷🏼‍♂️

[jolly island]

dang

[grizzled whale]

Every time brutal speaks is an official bruh moment

[arctic grove]

^

[arctic grove]

Eat shit

[copper fulcrum]

Yep

[surreal crystal]

Eyo leave my mans alone

[arctic grove]

Eat the paper that makes your petition a physical copy

[grizzled whale]

Am i wrong? All you seem to do is make baseless claims and get mad when people disprove them

[copper fulcrum]

This ain't Postal 2 dawg.

[dusky blade]

[arctic grove]

Postal 2 was the shit

[arctic grove]

Copy pasting wiki shit isn't disproving anything

[copper fulcrum]

Would you like to sign my petition?

[surreal crystal]

🥤🍿

[arctic grove]

Depends.. if it’s for 2042 refunds no chance

And all I ever said was what the petition stated because your dumbass asked

[dusky blade]

Is postal 2 the game with the terrorist stuff lmao

[copper fulcrum]

Postal 2 is the game where you can use a Cat as a Suppressor for a gun

[arctic grove]

Yes

[dusky blade]

It’s not wiki, they’re general classifications from the official gov site man

[arctic grove]

Which government?

[arctic grove]

What’s the petition?

[dusky blade]

Postal 2 was the MW2 no Russian before cod got big

[grizzled whale]

You not being able to show me where they said y1 will start at launch is, because that removes the need to even be talking about false advertisement claims

[copper fulcrum]

i forgo 💀

[surreal crystal]

I forgor

[arctic grove]

o noes he forgor 💀

[dusky blade]

Well I don’t wanna tell you where I live :(

[arctic grove]

I can't post screenshots

[grizzled whale]

Dm them

[dusky blade]

Oh yeah also that brings up the point of every consumer being from all around the world with different consumer policies

[arctic grove]

Okay well it would only matter if you were quoting laws from the country that I sits in or the country the plaintiff sits in because those would be the only two valid countries. And I'm not familiar with international law on how the two would correlate so 🤷🏼‍♂️

[dusky blade]

If you want to dig down that hole

[copper fulcrum]

How big is the shovel?

[surreal crystal]

Call saul to handle the case

[arctic grove]

You guys do know I didn't make this petition... Right?

I just answered your questions

[arctic grove]

We do. But it’s still funny that you are defending something useless

[dusky blade]

You’re the one claiming it’s false advertising

[copper fulcrum]

That doesn't change how you're talking to the people here

[grizzled whale]

Let me help you

[surreal crystal]

Dang

[arctic grove]

No I'm claiming that's what the petition States

Which it does

[dusky blade]

Which is incorrect

[arctic grove]

Hey uh. I don’t think that’s a shovel I can hold…

[arctic grove]

And I disagree. Move on

[surreal crystal]

Leave my mans alone 😞

[mental cave]

following common law within the jurisdiction of where court is being held IF the lawsuit even gets to court. the lawsuit will have a chance IF the jurisdiction had a past ruling that is similar to the situation of 2042 in favor for refund which is highly unlikely to exist anywhere. and this just me with my info from business law classes. I believe the whole lawsuit won't even make it to court because there's nothing to really get it there ya know?

[surreal crystal]

Ok

[arctic grove]

He kinda started it.. so he’s getting flamed for it

[surreal crystal]

Haha yeaaah

[arctic grove]

I answered your question.

[dusky blade]

It’s happened before in the past, nothing happened out of any of them, none even got a lawyer

[arctic grove]

My fucking bad

[mental cave]

like I agree the game is literally a hot steaming pile of shit but its not enough to get them sued lol

[arctic grove]

And if it doesn't my entire loss will be 25 seconds of my time

[grizzled whale]

The whole claim of it being false advertisement is wrong, but you still hold on to that

[arctic grove]

Oh no

[arctic grove]

K.

[arctic grove]

25 seconds that you’ll regret knowing the fact you defended a useless petition

[grizzled whale]

Send me those dma

[copper fulcrum]

dmc

[dusky blade]

dmd

[grizzled whale]

Im very curious to see where they announced when y1 will start

[arctic grove]

what exactly was the false advertisement

[arctic grove]

Nothing whatsoever

🙄

[copper fulcrum]

That's what we're looking for

[arctic grove]

They advertised exactly what’s in the game rn

[grizzled whale]

The year 1 pass, he thinks it means 1 year after the launch of the game

[copper fulcrum]

It's like solving a murder mystery except there's no dead body or weapon

or a murder

[dusky blade]

Damn I gotta say discussions of stuff like this is kinda fun

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

Lmao

[grizzled whale]

But its one year of content starting this summer

[arctic grove]

That's what year one is.

You don't celebrate your 1 year anniversary a year and a half later. Lol.

[mental cave]

year 1 didnt start until ages after rainbow six release

[dusky blade]

Let’s say I was born in July

Is it one year once January hits

[grizzled whale]

Show me where it says that

[dusky blade]

That’s kinda what this is

[grizzled whale]

Do you also sue cod for starting season 1 of vanguard several weeks after launch?

[lyric snow]

Does anyone want xbox gamepass

[arctic grove]

No... It's year one between birth and your first birthday... Duh?

Have you sued cod for false advertising aswell??

[copper fulcrum]

Alright that message reminds me of the kids on Xbox that would beg for Xbox Gold trials

[arctic grove]

Several weeks = / = half a year

[grizzled whale]

Year one is simply the first year of added content, which starts this summer,its never been said that that year of content starts at launch

[grizzled whale]

By your logic it would still be false advertisement

[arctic grove]

Also I didn't buy cod, and I didn't start the petition. You guys are hilarious

[mental cave]

back in the days when they gave out membership trials in every game case. now we dont even get a game manual

[lyric snow]

[arctic grove]

No unless they failed to deliver a Year's worth of content in the first year like they said they would.

[arctic grove]

Sez u

[grizzled whale]

Again, show me where they said that

[arctic grove]

Why? You'll just say it's wrong

[grizzled whale]

Why would i

If you have proof to back up your claim, ill accept that

[arctic grove]

I've already stated it. You disagree, we don't agree. The end

[grizzled whale]

But as far as i know and can find, they never said that the year 1 pass will start at launch

Okay so ill take that as "i cant prove my claims"

[sacred marten]

man I should have taken the reviews to heart this BF sucks

[arctic grove]

The very term "year 1" means first year. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[sacred marten]

RIP$60

[grizzled whale]

No it doesnt

[arctic grove]

You've seen where they say that, so why send you what you've seen?

[arctic grove]

Why yes. I am in fact an ultimate enjoyer.

[grizzled whale]

It means year 1 of content

[arctic grove]

Yes year 1. Not 1 year

[grizzled whale]

But they never stated when that year starts

[arctic grove]

In the first year

[copper fulcrum]

Lunar New Year

[sacred marten]

we all know the BF2042 player base will never comeback

[grizzled whale]

No, this summer

[arctic grove]

Correct. Because people like you cannot see past the bugs lol

No then they'd have said, "1 year of content beginning in summer 2022"

[sacred marten]

you mean normal people

[arctic grove]

No

[copper fulcrum]

That's when they said they'd start it

[arctic grove]

it depends on what you mean by player base. how much exactly is the numbers you think 2042 can never reach again

[sacred marten]

with standards

[arctic grove]

Not " 4 seasons in year 1"

Stinky people

[copper fulcrum]

They don't have to finish the 'year' at December 2022

[arctic grove]

It would be November

[grizzled whale]

You really are too dense do have a discussion with god damn

[copper fulcrum]

That's not a full 365 days after the year starts

[arctic grove]

Oof

[copper fulcrum]

Year 1 starts at the start of Season 1

[arctic grove]

See I haven't personally attacked you... Much as I'd like to

The wait for S1 has me hyped

[copper fulcrum]

You don't just make a 60% rotation around the Sun and call it a year

[arctic grove]

What On Earth are you even trying to talk about?

[copper fulcrum]

The start of Season 1 starts the Year 1

[arctic grove]

Anyone sign the petition for refunds?

November to the next November same day is 1 year

[arctic grove]

Hell no

[sacred marten]

link to petition plz

[arctic grove]

We can't post links. Against rules

damn that petition definitely is not going to quit being spoken about for a long time in here

[arctic grove]

Waste of time. It’s not gonna go anywhere

[grizzled whale]

they never stated when year 1 will start.

you ASSUMED it was at launch

thats a false assumption, not false advertisement

[sacred marten]

cause of your low standards for games

[arctic grove]

I agree. It wont go anywhere

[arctic grove]

No, that's when "year 1" would begin. That's simply logic

[grizzled whale]

if they said "year 1 of content will start at the launch of the game" then yes it would be false advertisement, but they didnt

[copper fulcrum]

Year 1 starts when they claim it starts, which will be at the start of Season 1 which has NOT been started yet. So the YEAR has NOT started yet

[arctic grove]

isn’t calling someone’s standards low for enjoying this game like, at least borderline against server rules

[arctic grove]

Nah. I have pretty high standards, this just turned out to be a game I love

[copper fulcrum]

So it is just how it works out sometimes.

[arctic grove]

Pretty much lmfaoo

[sacred marten]

you must love jake paul too

[radiant bronze]

“That means for Season 1, you can expect a new Specialist, Battle Pass and Portal content, and maybe even some new sights to see as the story of Battlefield 2042 continues to unfold. Expect more details early next year”

[arctic grove]

what games do people with high standards play

Holy fuck man I'm going to go make a video game and I'm going to charge $150 for a full year season pass and then I'll come out with that like 14 years later. Lol.

An idiots like you guys will buy it.

Good luck.

[arctic grove]

Who the fuck is that again?

[radiant bronze]

Early next year, June is the 6th month…

[grizzled whale]

no personal attacks right?

[arctic grove]

I thought personal attacks weren’t allowed?

[arctic grove]

You already opened the door, genius

[copper fulcrum]

I'm just straight up telling you, Year 1 starts when Season 1 starts

[arctic grove]

that’s a server mute

Go run and get your mods

[grizzled whale]

They never stated a release date, you assumed it.
Its your mistake for assuming something, not false advertisement

[queen carbon]

such a great game!

[arctic grove]

Agreed. (Ultimate enjoyer btw)

I got to say..Imagine defending 2042...during the state that it is in. Says alot about a persons character.

[arctic grove]

That's your opinion. I disagree. Courts would ultimately decide. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[radiant bronze]

Ea confirmed it “early next year”, jume ain’t early 😂

[arctic grove]

F A C T S

[grizzled whale]

court would agree since there was never a set date for the start of the pass

[copper fulcrum]

You clearly just can't comprehend that one sentence

[arctic grove]

K

I’d be surprised if it even got to the parking lot of the courtroom building

[grizzled whale]

this has nothing to do with the state of the game, we are discussing wether its false advertisement or not

[arctic grove]

2042 hater turned lover

Have a great night guys

[copper fulcrum]

Since you can't comprehend this 6 word sentence, I'll stop re-elaborating it.

[arctic grove]

I think I will actually. I mean I get to enjoy 2042 without you stinky

I signed the petition! 5 times!

[crimson wasp]

I can understand the frustrations we all have about the game.
But let's remember to stay civil towards each other despite the different opinions other server members have
Thanks in advance 💙

[arctic grove]

Blocking is great 😎

[arctic grove]

Good for you. Still not gonna do much

Yeah, don't mute anyone. Lol

Damn. Can’t handle facts so he resorts to blocking people

I wonder if mods will decide to entirely get rid of anyone talking about the petition as in signing it

Probably

I dont think so..there is no server rule against talking about it.

[copper fulcrum]

I ain't bashing anyone for anything. But a company decides when dates happen

[dark python]

Nah that’s a brutal expectation

[grizzled whale]

Walks in
makes baseless claims
refuses to elaborate further
leaves

[arctic grove]

So far just no links

[arctic grove]

Blocks*

[copper fulcrum]

Angel does it again!

[arctic grove]

And no, I don't block people

[grizzled whale]

I just wanna know who that "one of the best class action lawyers in the country" is

[arctic grove]

I won't share links. I just hope if anything that the petition will get EA to make the game better so we can have fun.

[dark python]

Not to mention the game needs content

[arctic grove]

Ngl I love 2042 but some of the brutal expectation jokes are a bit clever lmao

[copper fulcrum]

We're gonna get the Voice Actor of Phoenix Wright

[grizzled whale]

also, what country, Somalia?

[arctic grove]

Petition= useless

Not enough evidence to support any claims made by anyone who signs it

[grizzled whale]

Petitions barely yield any results, especially when the main claim they have for said petition is false

[arctic grove]

Everyone forgets battlefront 2 apparently

I don’t think legally it’ll go far but it’s saying quite a lot honestly

Legally?

It’ll be crazy if it even makes it within 5 miles of a courthouse

I think the petition was useless until the Media picks up on it. Then the pressure is on..I just want a good game again. thats it

BUT I will keep my expectations low..really really low. lol

Imagine being the lawyer appointed to this entire bonfire

50,491 so far. More than anyone playing any iteration of battlefield on steam.

I'd really love to know what the absolute numbers are

[sacred marten]

I just signed to petition looks like there is 5 signatures every second

[grizzled whale]

what pressure though?
the whole claim is false advertisement, which is a false claim, no lawyer is gonna take that shit to EA for free

[sacred marten]

I am going to take my $60 back and spend it all in lost ark

[arctic grove]

The judge is gonna be judge Judy

[arctic grove]

Keep them brutal, at the very least

A petition is always about the $. Sometimes they work to get companies to do the right thing.

[arctic grove]

Good luck even getting that money back.. chances are your petition won’t get far

To be fair you pre ordered on your own accord Xavier

Amen. Never give them another penny

Or bought in general if you didn’t pre-order the game

They can have my money… I am an ultimate edition joiner

[dark charm]

I got my money back after 80 odd hours. It’s called false marketing & false pretences. What EA did is actually illegal. Least it is in my country

[arctic grove]

This is why I didn't preorder. You got to me smart about it..Just get EA play, try it out, and then you are only out a little bit of $..then no reason to be this upset.

[grizzled whale]

how is it false marketing and false pretences

[sacred marten]

looks like you care

[amber canopy]

[shy bronze]

And what country is that

[amber canopy]

My respect for pow 📈📈

[arctic grove]

Some dumb BS that isn’t gonna get far whatsoever.. Dw about it

[dark charm]

Are you serious?😂😂😂😂

[grizzled whale]

yes

[amber canopy]

I wont

[shy bronze]

DICE didn’t false market

[prisma anvil]

That's what makes it even more muddied.... The differing laws and shit in various regions

[arctic grove]

Speaking of Twitter where can I find a source that the scoreboard update was pushed back? I am curious

DICE hasn’t done a single bit of false marketing lmaoo

[copper fulcrum]

Just because you don't like how a game performs, doesn't mean you can just say "False Marketing"

[arctic grove]

Don't tell them that, they'll just start beating that horse again

[shy bronze]

What’s this weird delusion of dice apparently false marketing ?

[dark charm]

I’m from the UK. If you’re really serious, look at all the marketing ea did. Look at everything that’s been promised, and then look at what you get. It’s false marketing bro. Look into business law

[copper fulcrum]

I don't like CoD, I'm going to sue it for False Marketing

[prisma anvil]

You don't need twitter for that one... Just check direct comms...

[grizzled whale]

show us

[shy bronze]

Show us

[arctic grove]

Show us

[sacred marten]

it performs like dog shit. at one point I could not look left or right

[shy bronze]

Show us these and I quote “false promises”

[dark charm]

As in?

[prisma anvil]

Source?

[copper fulcrum]

Based on what?

[arctic grove]

Skill issue

Woot

[grizzled whale]

they did the same marketing everywhere, and they gave us what they advertised

[shy bronze]

Show us what was apparently false promised

[grizzled whale]

whether you like what was given is not relevant

[copper fulcrum]

Obviously the biggest form of false marketing is not including Roaches being run over by Tanks and surviving

[shy bronze]

You got what was advertised, sure it was buggy on launch, but you get everything that was advertised

[sacred marten]

I bet you make excuses for everything that has gone bad in your life

[copper fulcrum]

Cope

[arctic grove]

Cope

[sacred marten]

oh no you got me

[copper fulcrum]

idek what that even means lol, it just gets thrown about and I don't even care to learn it

[arctic grove]

And if anyone tries to claim “WE ARE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE” was the false marketing, that was debunked too

The maturity. 💯

[grizzled whale]

the only thing that COULD be seen as misleading advertising, is the portal XP situation

[dark charm]

Dear god, go look for yourself 😂 if you can’t, then why should I help if you can’t do it yourself? It’ll only take a few minutes of research, but if you’re still struggling, study law

[copper fulcrum]

Whatever it is, it lost all definition from the internet

[prisma anvil]

And the content year 1 thingy

[copper fulcrum]

What didn't you get that was advertised, hmm?

[dark charm]

I dunno, hit markers don’t seem to be accurate, but then again I always play with Australians

[grizzled whale]

nah, they never stated when Year 2 would start

[arctic grove]

But you said there was NOTHING 🤦🏼‍♂️

[grizzled whale]

YOU make a claim, YOU back it up

[shy bronze]

You’re just avoiding the question because you’re being called out on your bullshit, either show us these promises that you’re claiming to have seen in the marketing or get a grip.

[prisma anvil]

Just saying.... 1 year vs year 1 is a clear distinction...

[dark charm]

What did you get, because I got a game that’s bare bones, and barely works without any features at they said would be in the game😂 not to mention at the stuff at is there, barely works

[arctic grove]

Agreed. But they'll just yell you down

[copper fulcrum]

Year 1 starts on DICE's terms, not the actual year terms

[grizzled whale]

"COULD" and "misleading"
not "CAN" and "false"

[arctic grove]

It's what they do

[copper fulcrum]

We got everything that they've advertised the game to do

[shy bronze]

@dark charm can we sue you for misleading this entire chat?

[arctic grove]

^

[copper fulcrum]

Even then, you still get XP for playing Featured modes so it's still really isn't false advertising

[dark charm]

Whatever you say, and that’s why you’ll never get your money back, because you Will believe whatever you want. I care about my money more then a franchise at just lies

[copper fulcrum]

No one lied lol

[prisma anvil]

I don't think he wants the money back

[copper fulcrum]

You still haven't given us one example

[shy bronze]

If you cared about your money you wouldn’t be buying video games

[arctic grove]

I’m okay with not getting my money back. i actually enjoy my time with 2042

[shy bronze]

You would be doing something more productive with your life

[dark charm]

If he’s happy fair enough, but I was saying for people who want theirs back. It is possible to do

[grizzled whale]

year one is just what its called, its not stated when it would start, so its not false advertising.
It doesnt make sense for season 1 so start season 1 right on release because the content will be seen as release content

[arctic grove]

If you don't want your money back...

Why do you care so damn much if others do?

If the game is so fantastic, why aren't you playing it instead of defending it?

🤔

[copper fulcrum]

"I care about my money, that's why I got an Xbox Series X and Pre-Ordered a game".

[grizzled whale]

i get that people assumed it would start at launch, but since it was never stated its not false advertising

[arctic grove]

I’m playing it rn?

[shy bronze]

💀

[arctic grove]

Lmfaoooo

[copper fulcrum]

I am suffering from not enjoying the game, I shall say it's false advertisement

[dark charm]

Series x is kinda pointless till about 2023 though. There’s no exclusives, or any that’s really any good. That’s my opinion, but it’ll be better by around then

Although stalker 2 looks good

[shy bronze]

Cool story dude

[arctic grove]

Man... The zero load times are amazing.

[shy bronze]

Now where’s the proof of false advertisement

[copper fulcrum]

I am still in firm belief that POW owns that cat in the picture

[grizzled whale]

spoiler alert: there is none

[arctic grove]

Stalker 2 does look nice.. but you still have to show some proof of false advertisement

[dark charm]

I’ve played on the series x, and one x, and the only difference between them in gta 5 & red dead 2 was about 11-14 seconds

To me, that’s not enough for 449

[shy bronze]

Why you with your mum in your pfp

[arctic grove]

Ignoring the questions because he knows there is no false adverts

[dark charm]

Watch the trailers, watch their interviews, and there you go. Do your own research

[shy bronze]

Thanks

[arctic grove]

That's because those games are old ass shitty r* games.

Try it with a modern title

[prisma anvil]

But that's what it should right?... It's a live service model.... Service starts from launch ... Thus service should start right after launch... (Which the multiplayer aspect did)... So why not the content aspect... It's normally known that year 1 is the first year of a product since its launch.... Vs 1 year, which could mean any time totalling 365 days

[shy bronze]

Post the proof here

[arctic grove]

I have watched the trailers. and I can say for a fact that nothin is false advertised

[dark charm]

Actually, I’m a doorman. That was one of the patrons at use to come in

[arctic grove]

Yup.

They'll offer you an excuse now. Wait for it

[shy bronze]

Cool, but where’s the proof

[dark charm]

Sure…we’ll whatever you say. But doesn’t excuse the fact at it’s possible to get your money back

[prisma anvil]

Just saying.... That one has a ground... The other ones can't even be debated cuz they promised nothing... And nothing is standardised...

[arctic grove]

Don’t want my money back. I love the game (ultimate enjoyer btw)

[prisma anvil]

Another could be the solo co-op progression

[dark charm]

Sure you dont, but for me & a lot of others, they were cheated outta a lot of money. I’m not saying to return it. That’s upto you. Just anyone’s wants theirs back is entitled to do so

[jovial jay]

wow so they did the impossible, I've been playing 2042 with 70 to 80% bot match

[arctic grove]

That they killed, what was it? Like day 3?

[grizzled whale]

ive never played a game where the first season starts at launch, its always some time after because it just doesnt make sense to add content immediately after launch.
And again i get that its assumed that it starts at launch, but they never claimed it would.
That means its not false advertisement, its false assumptions

[shy bronze]

You don’t deserve a refund

[arctic grove]

Weird because I've played probably over 100

[arctic grove]

How were they cheated out of money?

[dark charm]

I don’t see why getting my money back is such w problem for you. If you like then fine, but people who aren’t happy deserve their cash back

[arctic grove]

@dark charm save yourself a headache and just ignore them. You're not gonna get any sort of debate, just stonewalled with their self invented logic

They bought the game on launch with expectations of it not being buggy whatsoever.. and don’t even bring up the false advertisement bs because we both know there isn’t any proof

[grizzled whale]

if theyare eligible for a refund they can, if they arent thats on them

[shy bronze]

Then don’t state bullshit in here then.
You’re claiming that the game was sold as false promises and nothing was delivered

[arctic grove]

He's entitled to feel however he likes.

Cope.

[shy bronze]

You’ve not provided a single promises that was broken, nor anything that’s missing on launch

[prisma anvil]

Oh no... I'm not saying start at launch... But rather end 1 year from launch if you get my drift..... The promised 4 seasons should happen by the end of the first year.... ie November next year....which by the looks of it, it won't be.... If after releasing s1 in June they can finish the rest of the seasons by November 23, there's no grounds... But rn there is..

[dark charm]

I don’t see what the actual problem is. If someone’s happy great for them. Keep playing & hopefully it’ll become good, but for others let them get it back. There is nothing wrong with that, and is actually better for everyone

[arctic grove]

100% agree with you man

[grizzled whale]

i agree that it should, but this whole thing is about false advertisement or not, they never claimed when it would start or end, therefor its not false advertisement

[shy bronze]

There isn’t anything wrong, but you saying bullshit about the game being sold as a bunch of false promises isn’t true

[warm mica]

the queue is just on and on and on, 30 mins and nothing each time

[arctic grove]

Like I said, with that logic, they never actually have to deliver the content, as it can always be "coming later" such a flawed argument

[prisma anvil]

Yeah I see it.... Due to that November 23 end date, it's still stuck in the misleading category...

[grizzled whale]

They do, but they dont have to do it in a given timeframe.
now they do have to, because they stated early summer

[prisma anvil]

Might just be you coming in, during the times I'm here...

[arctic grove]

At this rate, each season will be 6 weeks long. Wait for that. All these casual battlefield players will be boo-hooing that they couldn't finish the season.

[grizzled whale]

where did they state year 1 will end november 23

[copper fulcrum]

The dog is very disappointed in your actions

[sacred marten]

there are 12 people watching BF2042 on twitch right now big numbers!!! what a great game to watch

[shy bronze]

Take your own advice, get off of discord

[arctic grove]

Skipper doesn't understand the difference between year 1 and 1 year.

[copper fulcrum]

Cats vs Dogs

[prisma anvil]

In the way they named the pass thingy.... Year 1... And not 1 year... So.. it doesn't matter when it starts... It should end after the first year post launch date

[grizzled whale]

they stated "season one will arrive early in the summer, it will mark the start of a year where we will deliver 4 seasons"
"the start of a year"
Aka, it goes on for a year, not till the end of the first year of 2042

[shy bronze]

Cool

[copper fulcrum]

"it will mark the start of a year"
almost like I said this 5 different times now

[prisma anvil]

I'm used to dissapointing living things by now

[arctic grove]

You are aware that the company's trying to change the entire dialogue by making that statement right?

Like they're trying to steer it away from the fact that they said these four seasons would take place in Year One.

That's called covering your ass skipper

[prisma anvil]

No

[grizzled whale]

and when does year one start?
Exactly, early summer

[rotund cloak]

who cares if u are wrong or right, point is there wont be content for 7-8months

[arctic grove]

No

[copper fulcrum]

Yes

[grizzled whale]

yes

[arctic grove]

Yes

[copper fulcrum]

😎

[grizzled whale]

once again, you ASSUMED it starts at launch but that was never said

[torpid vortex]

2042 best game

[radiant bronze]

I’m pretty sure ea confirmed season 1 will start early this year which means before summer bc that mid year basically

[arctic grove]

Well like I said and I'll say again we're going to disagree on that. Literally every game I've played since they started doing DLC and seasons and this whole year one thing, year one is from release till the one year anniversary that's why it's called Year One. Otherwise it would be called whenever we decide to release the content, they wouldn't give it a name

[arctic grove]

Now this I agree with. (Ultimate enjoyer btw)

[grizzled whale]

its year 1 of content

when that starts doesnt matter, its still year 1 of content

[arctic grove]

1 year of content* grammar matters, skipper

[grizzled whale]

its one year of content called year 1

[arctic grove]

Is English your primary language? Serious question

[grizzled whale]

even if they release it 2 years after launch, its still year 1 of content

its not

[arctic grove]

No it would be year 2 content

[grizzled whale]

No, it would still be year 1 of content

[arctic grove]

That's why we're not understanding each other

[grizzled whale]

english not being my first language is irrelevant, i understand what you mean but its wrong

[arctic grove]

In English if you say "year one" that is quite literally the first year of something's existence.

Year two second year of its existence

Etcetera.

If it's just one year of content then we would say one year of content where you put the number makes a huge difference in the message you're trying to convey in English

[grizzled whale]

year one of content, not year one of 2042

[arctic grove]

Sigh

[torpid vortex]

Me too and actually playing the game enjoyer as well,..hopefully the interest is enough for more than 4 seasons. People will realize it is actually the best game lol eventually

[arctic grove]

At least I understand why you're not understanding what I'm saying.

I'm glad you're happy with the game have a wonderful day

[grizzled whale]

my personal opinion, just as my primary language is completely irrelevant to this discussion

again, i know exactly what you mean, but its wrong

[arctic grove]

It'll never be the best game but it could be a good game. The issues that they've already been created by the bad political decision making by DICE execs have insured this game will never reach its full potential before it's relevance vanishes.

[arctic grove]

You clearly don't. Because it's not. Lol.

[grizzled whale]

You are just using the fact that english isnt my first language to justify your false assumption and claims, silly you, thats not how discussions work

[rotund cloak]

whan someone says year one it clearly means whan game came out and all content that will fallow in next 12months, idk if i said it right cuz english hard but thats the point

[arctic grove]

No no I just get that you don't understand what I'm saying and that's fine. There's clearly a difference in what is said here and what is said there and how it means different things to different people and beating a dead horse and arguing about it isn't going to get us anywhere

[copper fulcrum]

Year 1 starts when DICE says so, end of discussion, off to bed. Everyone.

[arctic grove]

It will be interesting to see what they do with hazard zone. Hoping there will be more of a looting system. Maybe gun attachments to keep upgrading your riffle till you die and lose it

[copper fulcrum]

Why the fuck are there Sprinklers on outside when it's raining.

[prisma anvil]

And once again.... I say .. this kind of ambiguity is why we need some amount of legal jurisdiction, dictating standardisation of certain things,

[arctic grove]

I just hope they can save it I really think hazard zone is just DOA

[arctic grove]

💯

I agree I don't think they will but there are many ideas that would make it a lot more fun

[arctic grove]

..so a tarkov copy

[copper fulcrum]

Legal Jurisdiction has nothing in the case of people starting events/dates

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove if looking for attachments is a tarkov copy than yes I guess

[grizzled whale]

as i said, using the fact that english is not my primary language to justify your false claims and assumptions.
and besides that, you are basically insulting me at this point

[arctic grove]

It is correct

[arctic grove]

PUBG started that

@arctic grove doesn't every looting game let you loot attachments?

[rotund cloak]

just learn english looser

[copper fulcrum]

They've already said "The Start of the Season marks the start of Year One" so there's no real legal backlash to be had.

[arctic grove]

Not all of em no

[pallid orchid]

can ppl find a game ?

[copper fulcrum]

Yes, easily.

[grizzled whale]

ive been fluent in english since i was 10, so that really isnt an issue

[arctic grove]

Yeah easily

[pallid orchid]

i keep getting kick out off the game

[prisma anvil]

I don't quite get that one

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove I've been playing a lot of tarkov so your correct

[arctic grove]

It's not an insult to say that there is a language barrier. I know what I'm saying makes sense where I'm from other people that are from where I'm from are saying the same thing if that doesn't show you that there is a language barrier here I don't know what else to tell you skipper.

Don't be sad, it just works out that way sometimes.

[rotund cloak]

that also was a sarcasm, i know how it feels whan english teachers on internet wanna correct what u say

[grizzled whale]

There is no language barrier, i know exactly what you mean

[arctic grove]

Okay Skipper then you tell me what I mean

[grizzled whale]

ive already explained that several times, your only reply was "sigh"

[arctic grove]

Because what you said was completely wrong.

[grizzled whale]

1 year means 365 days where content is given. am i right on that?

[arctic grove]

365.25

No. "Year one" means that

[arctic grove]

Eh?

[grizzled whale]

bruh

[prisma anvil]

He's being anal with the extra 6hrs that's in every year ...

[grizzled whale]

you are contradicting yourself now

[rotund cloak]

thats how many days are in year

[arctic grove]

I'd rather 365 nights

[arctic grove]

I’m very tired

[arctic grove]

I'm sorry , yes you're right there. I misread. It happens

[grizzled whale]

Year 1 is the first year where content is given.

[torpid vortex]

I know a lot of that was over shadowed by console ports of the game and what they didn't have to do and still sell the game. But there was a time they wanted the game well received and celebrated to a degree. Now they are having bigger problems like being able to hire competency and not clear there is any management control and especially 2042 with many studios just would make that issue worse

[grizzled whale]

thats the difference between the two

But, where is it written that the first year where content is given has to start at launch?

[arctic grove]

No. That's where you got it wrong year one is the first year of the titles existence not the first year the content is given

[grizzled whale]

where is that written

[arctic grove]

Damn this petition has over 52k signatures

[radiant bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[prisma anvil]

Hm..... I get what skip's on about.... I think

[grizzled whale]

as far as EA has advertised, Year 1 is just the first year of content

[arctic grove]

It went from 32k this morning to 52k

[radiant bronze]

Don’t mind me just, enjoying the show

[arctic grove]

It's literally common knowledge in the gaming industry. Literally every game that I've played that has a content stream and a season pass that is sold at launch year one is the first year of its existence. Every. Single. One.

[grizzled whale]

Assumptions, not false advertising

[arctic grove]

That logic they never actually have to start then because year one starts whenever the first thing comes out so if they never release anything then it still hasn't started yet and they're still not false advertising, right?

[grizzled whale]

They do, but not in a given timeframe

they promised the content, not when it will come

[raw vale]

year one starts at november 19, 2022

by that time the game would be dead

[arctic grove]

Okay so where's the line skipper? Where does it become false advertising? after a full calendar year? after five calendar years? 10?

[grizzled whale]

And as said earlier, now they do have a timeframe, which is early summer.
If they dont start year 1 early summer, THEN you can claim its false advertising and you would be correct

[arctic grove]

Their probably going to start handing out refunds

[radiant bronze]

Regardless when the season 1 comes into play the game will be dead

[grizzled whale]

i doubt it

[prisma anvil]

The game itself is a live service....... It doesn't have any specific end date to hold to..... But the content does..... So the debate is whether the "1 year, year 1 whatever it is" is counted for the game... Or for the content for the game..... The former dictates that the end date should be from launch to the same time next year.... The latter says that year only begins with s1 and then has to be done by the next year wrt to s1 launch date

[arctic grove]

20k signatures in 8 hours for refunds isn't a small number

[raw vale]

yes because change org petitions are very useful

[grizzled whale]

the whole thing is based on a false claim

actually, that petition has done more false advertising than 2042 has ironically

[arctic grove]

For real I didn't think it would reach 50k but it has

[prisma anvil]

I think I get skip's pov a bit better now.... Technically, base 2042 is a full game...so the extra content should be treated separately, and thus, its launch should be separate as well

[safe crag]

Year 1 content means all 4 seasons should come by November this year right

[arctic grove]

That doesn't answer the question

[grizzled whale]

literally no

[safe crag]

Otherwise it becomes year 2 lmao

[raw vale]

you know what, if DICE actually gave us what most people wanted like (BF3/BF4 style, BF1 atmosphere and BFV gunplay), this game wouldnt have flopped and they would have gotten enough money to fund season 1 and release it like a month after launch, but here we are.

[prisma anvil]

We paid for it... True.... But its still separate...

[arctic grove]

How tf am I suppose to unlock “Headhunter” tag when the snipers are shd long range

[raw vale]

obligatory: fuck battle royales

[arctic grove]

The decision to remove Legacy features was such a bad move.

[prisma anvil]

Inb4 they change the text on all platforms from year 1 to 1 year .... And cause an even bigger debacle

[arctic grove]

Player skins also 🙃

[grizzled whale]

If there would be something like "one year worth of content with the year 1 pass which will start 2 weeks after the launch of 2042" or something along those lines, it would be 100% justified to call it false advertising

that goes double for this game

[radiant bronze]

You should’ve saw this chat last night, Someone was crying that voip is toxic and shouldn’t be in the game 😂

[raw vale]

twice*

[arctic grove]

No one ever says anything that specific, get real

[grizzled whale]

they usually do tho

[arctic grove]

@radiant bronze 🤣

[arctic grove]

They don't. Because ambiguity protects them

[prisma anvil]

That's the issue innit ... Law expects absolutes.... But regularly deals with shades of ambiguity to try and determine an absolute

[arctic grove]

Yes. Finally someone gets it

[radiant bronze]

Man also said that no one wanted voip and said that the game wasn’t dying 😂

[arctic grove]

We are, idiot

[prisma anvil]

[grizzled whale]

imma make breakfast, me hungy

[prisma anvil]

Good luck with that lad

[arctic grove]

Yeah, delete that dumb shit with the quickness

[radiant bronze]

U in the wrong app bud 😂

[arctic grove]

Reddit is for children

[safe crag]

This is discord btw if you didn't know

[arctic grove]

Keep digging

[raw vale]

battle royales get popular
ea now also wants a battle royale
make firestorm
fails
cut the support
make new game
make it battle royale because the first one dint flop hard enough
it wont work so lets go back to traditional battlefield
rush the game
players hate it
surprised pikachu face

[arctic grove]

@radiant bronze past few titles producers have been removing features little by little. With the release of 2042 the removal of such feautrss in bulk is very noticeable

[prisma anvil]

Why tho?.... We cant use... Bo last alphabet o?... That's not allowed here?

[radiant bronze]

What killed me is the no deaths scoreboard 😂 they did that with battlefront 2. Man they gotta accommodate to the snowflakes on a rated M game

[arctic grove]

Rip

[prisma anvil]

What did I even say to you my guy.... Why you gotta be up in my grill?

[worthy inlet]

Wow this chat looks fun

[prisma anvil]

I genuinely asked if that word isn't allowed here ... Jesus

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-hader-watching-eating-popcorn-oh-yeah-watchin-gif-8938478

@radiant bronze i have a few friends that like playing 2042 so I still have fun playing it. But I play a lot of other games now to fill the void 2042 has left

Imagine if there were mods

[prisma anvil]

Rated pegi 12

[hollow verge]

This chat looks real

[arctic grove]

2042 channel nominated for being the most friendly

Brutally friendly

[prisma anvil]

Wholesome award 2022

[arctic grove]

Hugs all around

[radiant bronze]

Man only reason why I still play that disgusting game is I’m 10 levels off to prestige after that I’m gone 😂

[raw vale]

BF2042 is so bad that I decided to reinstall rainbow six siege

[arctic grove]

@radiant bronze i think I'm lvl 120

[worthy inlet]

It's always a shock coming here from literally any other game discord I'm in

[arctic grove]

I'm at 93 and dunno if imma make it lol

[worthy inlet]

Damn you're old bro

[radiant bronze]

I’m 91 I think 🥲

[arctic grove]

Shh you. Level 93*

[radiant bronze]

I only manage to play like 3 games per day until my blood starts to boil

[arctic grove]

@radiant bronze lol.

[radiant echo]

[prisma anvil]

You have poor timing der.... Just in the morning we were talking about mexican food... Shit was chill ... I got to know what an al pastor was

[arctic grove]

@radiant bronze I'm 120 and have every vehicle maxed but the last unlocks on MAV

[radiant bronze]

U didn’t know what pastor was?

[worthy inlet]

I swear it smells me coming and the chat creates this crap itself

[prisma anvil]

Al pastor... Nope...

[arctic grove]

Janitor?

[radiant bronze]

Holy shit, I’m better on heli started to get used to jet

[arctic grove]

@radiant bronze when I say ever vehicle I didn't include the Jets because they're garbage in this game

[radiant bronze]

Damn, it’s good… need to get yourself a quesaberria

[arctic grove]

Do you play on console

[radiant bronze]

They are honestly until u get the air to ground than u can actually do something😂

Ye

[arctic grove]

@radiant bronze yeah I don't get why they didn't add at least one stationary AA

[prisma anvil]

Can't...I live on the other side of the world...

[prisma anvil]

It do be like that sometimes der

[radiant bronze]

What I hate the most is the regular infantry missle one shoting helis and ur able to lock on with soflam too??!?? Straight up toxic

[arctic grove]

At least C-Ram at the team base to keep air vehicles out

[arctic grove]

Or machine gun, or AT

[radiant bronze]

Where if I may ask

[prisma anvil]

The land of curries, call centers, and cows.....

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-angelo-gif-20786224

[prisma anvil]

There's also another c-word I wanted to add to that list .. but I'll end up getting a warning again

[radiant bronze]

Oof look up quesaberrias shit smack af

[safe crag]

Can only server boosters send gifs here

[arctic grove]

I don't know if bf1 because I skipped that title, but bf3, 4, BfV all had base AA's or C-rams for any enemy air vehicle that wants to fly by your base.

[prisma anvil]

Will do

[prisma anvil]

Boosters, regulars and nitro users .....

Oh and the mods and admins ovbiously

[safe crag]

[arctic grove]

[radiant bronze]

There is always that one jet that decides to fly into the freshly spawn players in the beginning of the match 😂

[arctic grove]

I rammed a guys parachute once & killed him

[grizzled whale]

wasnt me

[radiant bronze]

Is that SovietwombleI hear

[prisma anvil]

Ah yes.... Hello fellow Soviet womble enjoyer

[grizzled whale]

https://tenor.com/view/culture-man-of-culture-cultured-gif-10903367

[arctic grove]

I'm so excited I'm building my new pc this weekend

[prisma anvil]

General high ping

[radiant bronze]

Nice

[grizzled whale]

cant wait for soviets 3 videos this year

[radiant bronze]

I just be watching his streams and the arma vids he posted a while back

[grizzled whale]

i rewatched all bullshittery videos while grinding t1 weapons last month

[arctic grove]

[radiant bronze]

Haven’t watched in a while but Soviet and fitz were so hilarious back in the day 😂

[prisma anvil]

I always start with the Soviet getting ranked in cs video

[grizzled whale]

salty cy

[prisma anvil]

Then head over to the arma ones.... And then finally some other videos here and there

What's that space game they played.... The one where cyanide made a massive face of himself on the moon

[grizzled whale]

space engineers

[prisma anvil]

Ah yes

[radiant bronze]

😂

[grizzled whale]

that vietnam game too

[prisma anvil]

Rising storm right?

[grizzled whale]

"i have my flammenwerfer, it werfs flamen"

[eternal storm]

Is rising storm 2 still played

[grizzled whale]

"the hills are alive with the sound of angry flamethrower noises

[prisma anvil]

We shouldnt be racist... Everytime someone's racist, the bell will be rung....one bad idea later

[grizzled whale]

ding ding ding ding ding ding ding

[radiant bronze]

I loved the one vid were cynades gf came in and Soviet started to roast cymaide

[grizzled whale]

cyanides psyhco girlfriend

[radiant bronze]

Oh and rocket league vid 😂

[grizzled whale]

or the one where he goes AFK and everyone just starts spouting advertisements to his stream

[prisma anvil]

"but she's so hoootttt"

[radiant bronze]

Ong

[grizzled whale]

she really is tho

[radiant bronze]

Well I gtg need to sleep for work Gn

[prisma anvil]

Yee

I'ma go and have lunch

[arctic grove]

Blah I don't want to do any work tonight

[grizzled whale]

im getting paid to do whatever for the last year

[arctic grove]

Lucky

[safe crag]

Damn, must feel good not having 10 people behind you ready to do more hard work than you for less pay

[light flint]

How to attend bf2042 funeral

[sleek latch]

this place it oddly quite

[flat tusk]

Bc the game sucks

It’s dead

[graceful hatch]

its not quiet, weve just delayed any further comments on bf2042 till early summer

[tender folio]

it will work when DICE/EA drops new news.

[radiant echo]

https://tenor.com/view/winterz-soon-gif-19096204

[graceful hatch]

u would have seen that posted on the notice board, but we delayed adding the notice board as well, sorry

[arctic grove]

@safe crag what lol

[solid trellis]

Hopefully :((

[pine roost]

Wish I had some concrete info as to what’s actually being worked on at the moment, It feels like we’ve just been abandoned

[arctic grove]

I think they gave an announcement as to what they are working on with the next patch

[radiant echo]

http://x.ea.com/72939

[pine roost]

Scoreboard and voice chat

[graceful hatch]

must be a good scoreboard, been working on it like 5 months past release

[pine roost]

Yeah it’ll be amazing

[clear quail]

next gen scoreboard xd

[pine roost]

Next gen voice chat too

It turns your voice into the soldier’s

Oh sorry, SpECiAliSt

We need a defib

[radiant echo]

It's more than that

[pine roost]

Ok I’m just going to delete that since something is seriously broken on my end

[reef kestrel]

[pine roost]

I hope that reward loop means the old point system, that was far more interesting than exp

[reef kestrel]

Kinda weird how the petition manage to have 50k signatures.

[sand pendant]

yeah

[graceful hatch]

in what context is that "weird"?

[sand pendant]

Weird that it doesnt have more

[reef kestrel]

Weird because it's has more people signing for a refund than the whole actual playercount.

[proven ermine]

That’s not weird

Everyone stopped playing…

[graceful hatch]

how is that weird? obviously people have stopped playing it and now theyre trying to get their money back.... what part of that escapes ur understanding lol?

[proven ermine]

Because the game is utter garbage

[reef kestrel]

Sorry, I'm trying to act like EA/DICE, the game is fine.

You guys are just toxic.

[graceful hatch]

id rather be toxic than dense or in denial

[proven ermine]

We aren’t toxic are u kidding me you’re saying stupid things

[reef kestrel]

Peace !

• EA/DICE

A comment got deleted. 🤔

[arctic grove]

My ex called me toxic once

[sand pendant]

hahaha

[reef kestrel]

I see second degree humor isn't your thing.

[proven ermine]

Not really bro I’ve spent £100 on the “game”

[sand pendant]

[reef kestrel]

Do you think you're alone who spend 100 on this "game" ?

[reef kestrel]

Battlefeel

[sand pendant]

I hope that i will get refund after 100 hours on steam

[graceful hatch]

RIP El Risitas

[proven ermine]

Fan boys

[reef kestrel]

who?

[sand pendant]

Nah i will get a refund buy dying light 2 and normal version of battlefield

[reef kestrel]

you're giving EA money.

[sand pendant]

Pretty much yeah hahah

[reef kestrel]

It's doesnt solve anything.

[sand pendant]

I know, but i will have two games instead of one so idc

[reef kestrel]

You could get BF4, BFV and BF1 for free before BF2042 release.

You missed this opportunity.

[arctic grove]

There will be more opportunities

[sand pendant]

Well i have all of them so yes

[graceful hatch]

we delayed opportunities to autumn

[arctic grove]

I'm sure there will be gpu battlefield bundles

[hybrid steppe]

At this rate 2042 will have to be given for free is they want to have any players.

[reef kestrel]

too late for this scenario.

Probably the developer and EA was in the confusion state due to the huge backlash.

And DICE dev are probably under pressure probably depressed from angry fan.

[solid trellis]

Hackers go booom

They'll save this game

[flat tusk]

[reef kestrel]

[solid trellis]

[reef kestrel]

I need a good quality of copium if I want to believe they will fix Battlefield 2042 and bring the old core design.

[hybrid steppe]

Can't really feel sorry for them, the community has been laying out what they want for years now and yet they still wanted to go their own way and lo and behold, everyone hates it.

[graceful hatch]

always remember, "if u dont like it, dont buy it" 😂

[hybrid steppe]

I made the mistake of giving them benefit of a doubt that they had learned from the past but not going to make that mistake ever again.

[hardy leaf]

and its on DEVs how the state of the game is, EA only asked them to launch before holiday, rest of the other stuff regarding the broken game design and bugs is on devs only, its their fault ultimately

[hardy leaf]

actually they learned how easy it is to fool gamers by showing those unrealistic trailers and lure them into buying a broken game

[hybrid steppe]

Mhm, this truly showed their true colors which is why there is now such a community push back

[reef kestrel]

I mean they deserve the critic and backlash.

There is a line where we/you can't cross is harassing the developer. :x

Some peoples are trying to bring them to justice just for refund.

[hybrid steppe]

Of course you shouldn't go for specific devs/individuals but instead criticize the studio as a collective

[graceful hatch]

idk about that, i said here before that working on 2042 must be quite a black mark on ur work history and someone who works for EA/DICE replied "ha this comment is fun because it shows u have no idea how the industry works". obviously zero fucks given for what theyve done

[hybrid steppe]

Only if a person says something dumb like that whole "brutal expectations" comment, then you can of course call out the stupidity of the statement. But of course that criticism should be focused on the statement itself and not the individual that stated it.

[hardy leaf]

as a customer, we dont give a f about how industry work thats not our job, we want a finished product because we paid money for it and thats it

[reef kestrel]

Personally I would like to lie that I never worked on a BF2042 series. /s

Nah, if you're talking about your experience working on BF2042 and the mistake you made and regret about your decision you made it's would be fine aslong you are willing to change and trying to make a game where a community is happy to play and have fun.

Don't worry I'll slap lootbox.

[reef kestrel]

I think it's work with every industry

every product are supposed to have this and this what's mentioned.

A customer can even sue you if you forgot to add a detail.

[graceful hatch]

it was just a completely asinine comment to make. any other industry, if u were part of a fuck up that big, youd never work in the industry again.

can u imagine if an architect designed a building and it fell down within 3 months of being finished and he was like "u wanted it to last longer than 3 months? these brutal expectations are killing me"

[reef kestrel]

Happened to multiple product dunno for game.

[reef kestrel]

Architect or a car designer.

[hardy leaf]

that brutal expectation comment was clarified by him saying he meant that expecting them to work on holidays is brutal, however i think he took a U turn because of the backlash because by reading his tweet , it seemed like the fixes we want is brutal expectation

[foggy halo]

essays

[graceful hatch]

if they wanted to go on holiday they shouldnt have pushed that absolute dumpster fire of a game out the door

[reef kestrel]

The reason why Dice dev are quiet is because we made a fuss about their comment.

[scenic tartan]

Wait.. you really think you know better than the devs themselves? LOL

[hybrid steppe]

True I know that, that doesn't make it any less stupid or out of touch to post.

[graceful hatch]

have u seen the game theyve made mate? the janitor at EA HQ knows better than these devs lmao

[hardy leaf]

dont need to be a doctor to know a thing or two about being healthy

[arctic grove]

Imagine thinking holidays off are something you're entitled to

[scenic tartan]

....... 🤭

[hardy leaf]

well leaves are not a right of an employee where i work, they've stated in the rules, idk about DICE tho

[scenic tartan]

When you become hired and work on a shipped game I'll take your word

[reef kestrel]

Customer Expectation = 🏍️
Manager/Leadership expectation = 🛵
Developer expectation&result = 🚲
Customer not happy customer revolt.

[arctic grove]

I've worked on 2

[hardy leaf]

I have a job, im not an unpaid EA shill defending their game shamelessly

[arctic grove]

[reef kestrel]

[graceful hatch]

what are u even talking about mate? anyone with functioning eyeballs can see this game was NOT ready to be released, u dont have to have built a car to know that a car with no engine, 3 flat tires and a dirty hobo in the back is not something u should be trying to sell someone

[reef kestrel]

Straight to the point.

[scenic tartan]

Whatever you say dude

[reef kestrel]

if im not wrong car industry have a department that have a quality control before you can sell the car.

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

Games used to. Now they use open betas

[graceful hatch]

"whatever u say dude"

ah yes, part of the "i said something really fucking stupid and now im being called out on it and i cant think of anything to say to justify it so imma head out" starter pack

[reef kestrel]

We are the "Quality control" now.

[arctic grove]

[reef kestrel]

Majority industry do have a QUALITY CONTROL.

You can't ship something broken. lol

[graceful hatch]

QC must have been taking a fat dump while this trash was getting rolled out the door lol

[arctic grove]

Imagine DICE making cars

[reef kestrel]

Except if you live in a third world country otherwise majority are supposed to have one.

[graceful hatch]

tyres are DLC, expect delivery in 6-12 months and we only half built the engine, we may or may not get around to finishing it before we move on to something else, good luck friend, see u on the redditfield 😂

[hazy vector]

they probably did catch a lot of bugs, just not all of them. and the ones they didnt catch were quite bad

[scenic tartan]

It's your opinion being discarded in the most dismissive way possible

[hazy vector]

several car manufacturers are shipping their cars incomplete, Tesla ships cars without usb chargers now because of the chip shortage

[graceful hatch]

shipping and selling to the customer are 2 different things, particularly when in this instance the customer is not informed of the incompleteness of the product prior to purchasing

[hazy vector]

they're the same in this case, the customer pays for a whole car and tesla just flat out doesn't install things but gives them a voucher "so it can be installed on a later date"

[hardy leaf]

totally customers fault thay they bought the game thinking scoreboard server browser will be included in the game when EA mentioned nothing like this

[reef kestrel]

Customer Expectation = 🏍️
Manager/Leadership expectation = 🛵
Developer expectation&result = 🚲

Also this things should tell something to the manager because this is the basic things they learn at the manager school lol.

[arctic grove]

[graceful hatch]

"the manager school".... yeah ok mate, keep on keeping on 😂

[arctic grove]

it´s software development you can´t came up with chip shortage of electric cars

[reef kestrel]

It's a lesson that teach you what the manager have to do and think about.

They talk about the difference between a manager and a leadership too.

[grizzled whale]

are you actually not talking shit about the game for once?

[arctic grove]

For a few years I've wondered when the community would finally notice the massive stripping of features. I'm happy people are finally speaking up. This has been long awaited

[reef kestrel]

Better to not derail the topic when he is having a civilised conv.