battlefield-2042

[umbral geode]

But I never need healing never need ammo never need to resupply

[still quail]

[umbral geode]

And judging by the popularity of angel, its pretty apparent others feel the same way

[arctic grove]

I'm scared I won't be able to see battlefield 5 DLC because battlefield 2042 DLC 😳🥺

[dense terrace]

well duh 90% i play angel too, i mostly play TDM though thats where i have most fun and ton of kills

[arctic grove]

[still quail]

I dunno I see Boris and Sundance equally in conquest.

They need ammo and heals too

[umbral geode]

Cause there's only like 5 good specialists lol

[still quail]

Falck is super common

[dense terrace]

self armor and ammo and healing kit as gadget whoever plays something else in tdm is potato

[arctic grove]

Hero operator

[umbral geode]

Faulk Sundance Angel Boris and McCay

[dense terrace]

angelfield2042

[arctic grove]

The best operator is the hackers you can't beat em

[umbral geode]

If you play anybody else you're purposefully nerfing yourself

[fierce gull]

Rao?

[still quail]

A good rao can really shut down enemy vehicles in breakthrough. Paik isn't as common but extremely helpful in infantry too

[arctic grove]

Better then rao

[fierce gull]

Casper is the best specialist

[still quail]

You're only nerfing yourself if you consider your own k/d to be most important

[umbral geode]

Rao literally does nothing

[fierce gull]

he can put C5s on his drone and blow up any tanks in sight
but that's getting patched soon so

[umbral geode]

If you hack a vehicle they just drive/fly away

[still quail]

I can tell you as a vehicle player, if there's just one or two Rao's on the other team, my job is so much harder

[umbral geode]

If they have anymore than a half of a brain cell

[arctic grove]

If you think about it, a hacked tank or helicopter buys valuable time for your vehicles to hit them

[still quail]

Yeah, but paired with the AA launcher you can't pop flares or heal? And making them fly away repeatedly is just as helpful as killing them tbh

[umbral geode]

So what? You're slightly inconvenienced, his hacks don't instantly merc you lol.

[still quail]

Now that emp nades are becoming standard among a lot of people, the mix of all those can fuck with vehicles so bad

But guess what? It requires team play and multiple people doing that

[umbral geode]

Which do you ever find that in BF2042?

I liked it better when I could just solo a tank in BFV and contribute to my team that way lol

[still quail]

Considering I have a group of 8 that plays consistently, I almost always have a full coordinates squad

[ember nimbus]

I'm jealous

[still quail]

Nah fuck that, vehicles should never lose to a single infantry 1v1

[umbral geode]

Lucky fucker, I would kill for that. I'm lucky if I get one of my friends to play any BF with me

[fierce gull]

you can beat a tank by yourself in 2042 if you are fast enough lol

[still quail]

All it takes is two people to even it out. If ya can't get two out of 64 to focus on vehicles your team deserves to lose.

[ember nimbus]

Or if you're pesky enough around cover

That's an easy way to piss people off

[still quail]

There's also the Casper cheese, Sundance + c4, get your own vehicle, etc.

[umbral geode]

I mean there were sappers in WW2 who would just run up to tanks and disable them

[umbral geode]

Casper cheese was removed

[ember nimbus]

About time

[umbral geode]

Can't place C4 on his drone anymore

[warped pulsar]

Cheese?

[fierce gull]

wait wait when?

[still quail]

Tanks were miserable to use in 1 and 5 because of how fragile they were. Useless for anything but sniping from a distance

[umbral geode]

Two patches ago?

[fierce gull]

really?

[still quail]

Nah it's still a thing

[umbral geode]

maybe last patch?

[fierce gull]

lemma check rn

[still quail]

It needs to be patched but it hasn't been yet

[fierce gull]

It was said it was gonna be patched soon

[umbral geode]

Wait I read about it being removed 2 months ago

[warped pulsar]

I want ads bug fixed already

[umbral geode]

has that patch not gone live?

[fierce gull]

nope still a thing

[umbral geode]

What a joke lmfao

[wide violet]

[still quail]

Regardless, this is just a return to how vehicles were balanced vs. Infantry in any battlefield before 1. A single infantry player should not be able to 1v1 a vehicle and win unless they get a sneaky c4 kill or the tank player is just bad at it. Infantry should have a massive disadvantage. That said it only takes 2 infantry to flip that and make the tank play defensively. Two anti air rockets can blast any helicopter or at least make them run away for repairs. The only op vehicle currently is the f35 with it's hover mode

[fierce gull]

damn the little explosion of Casper's drone can impact vehicle lol

[umbral geode]

Then they should go back to the old balancing format for their "transport" vehicals

Like in BF4 for your transports you could have mini guns OR flares. Not miniguns AND flares in 2042.

Little shit like that makes a huge difference

[still quail]

I agree the transport vehicles have too many guns but only bc it encourages people to sit in them too much. 50mm on the condor/hind is excessive

[still quail]

???? No? The transport heli had both lol

[umbral geode]

I dont remember that

[still quail]

Pilots always had flares

[umbral geode]

I'm gonna have to fact check it

[still quail]

I also think boltes shouldn't be in the same category as jeeps or hovercraft, they're not really transport vehicles with only two seats

Need ways to call in atvs and stuff too

[nova barn]

lol

[umbral geode]

They aren't strong enough to be tanks either

[chilly oak]

how do u control air craft on pc i always crash

[still quail]

Yeah boltes are a weird middle ground where they'd def not fit with tanks, but take up slots for actual transport vehicles

[umbral geode]

The transport hellis had mini guns on the side I was referring to pilot controlled guns,

Sorry that was on me lol

[fiery solar]

farm spot assists

[fiery solar]

easier on mnk wym

[chilly oak]

i cant do it at all

[supple relic]

Any one else getting the bug when you get out a vehicle you can't aim down sights and visual recoil diapears

[fierce gull]

yep that has been going on

will probably get fixed in the March update

[cold sky]

They should remove PC players at consoles bunch of cheaters.

[naive quiver]

100%?

[naive quiver]

Maybe Another surprise came out

[copper fulcrum]

I haven't really experienced any cheats tbh

[plucky creek]

Anyone else getting a Direct X crash when trying to play?

[obsidian zinc]

hello

[fast jacinth]

Howdy

[obsidian zinc]

I just published my first Portal mod. ^^

[dusty elm]

They should fine and remove all the cheats from the cheat websites

[fading hazel]

havent played much since first few weeks of launch, what bugs have been fixed if any??

[dusty elm]

is it %100 working with no bugs?

[copper fulcrum]

Congrats

👏

[serene oyster]

np

[fading hazel]

im talking like the big ones (not being able to shoot after exiting humvee, bloom bug where you dont hit shots)

they still a thing?

[dusty elm]

fyi I finished and uploaded a ffa game in portal just before the 3.2 update, after the 3.2 update it broke forceswitch melee weapon and had to remove 3 small maps because the spawning is bugged

[obsidian zinc]

mostly.

[dusty elm]

atm I don't think anyone should be wasting there time on portal

[obsidian zinc]

but I don't use force switching on knifes.

[scenic tartan]

It's just difficult, you can play 100 hours to get good at piloting like the pros

[dusty elm]

if I can't get a simple easly ffa game

imagine bigger game modes

[fading hazel]

so im assuming all the bugs are still there based on response?

[obsidian zinc]

for me it doesn't feel like "wasting time". I do this because I like it.

[dusty elm]

yes and there are new one coming out with new updates

[dusty elm]

you are wasting your time on something you can't finish

[fast jacinth]

Maybe people don't know, I would give people more time to respond

[cold sky]

Its hard for them to remove this cheaters at PC,, the best for consoles players XBOX and PS only. Just remove the PC players at cross play

My whole squad at zone got aim bot by Pc players. Pathetic

One man army with his PP

[dusty elm]

There are plenty of tools and ways to get rid of cheats and it's all up to the game owners

[cold sky]

For now just remove the PC players, that’s why i move to consoles i got tired with cheaters at PC.

[dusty elm]

Yeah or find another game to play

[plucky creek]

You think Cheaters are not on Console

Modded controllers exist

[dusty elm]

there probably are by like 0.2%

[cold sky]

Yes, modded exists compare to aim bots and wall hacks.

[plucky creek]

Paik

Prox sensors

Drone

[silk surge]

Legit never seen a cheater. Maybe I'm just better than cheaters even 😏

[plucky creek]

You can quite easily be spotted in 2042

[silk surge]

Even doing something as simple as clenching your buttcheeks a bit too hard gets you spotted on the minimap.

[plucky creek]

They do exist I can assure though granted not as much as the Xbox 360 and PS3/4 days

[silk surge]

Yeah, I heard that there was some device that you connect to your console, which can do things like massively increase your aim-assist and shit. Haven't seen any suspicious behavior in my games yet though.

[lunar berry]

Seeing more and more cheaters in this game. This game is getting worse

[plucky creek]

I can't even play this game currently, it saying my GPU is physically unplugged

Yet Cyberpunk and Dying light load fine

[silk surge]

I've heard that PC people are having massive problems with performance, is that true?

[plucky creek]

Yes

[lunar berry]

Intruso2021 is a cheater

[dusty elm]

no many cheaters in bf2042 because there is not enough players or scoreboard

[fierce gull]

report him

[lunar berry]

I did, nothing done about it

[dusty elm]

looks whats happening with COD for example

[silk surge]

Hasn't BFV exploded in popularity recently? Their Steam numbers are up at 30k last time I checked, and I find tons of filled servers on Playstation.

[lunar berry]

RUSSOPROTTV is another cheater

[silk surge]

Like, pages of 64/64 servers on the browser for conquest/conquest small/bt

[fierce gull]

bfv is filled with hackers on pc

[silk surge]

Never played it on PC.

[fierce gull]

I played it again not too long ago and my first match was a dude shooting all of us across the map

reminds me of Warzone

[dusty elm]

maybe there is no kill cam that's why you can't tell if someone is cheating or not

[supple relic]

I'm having them veatnarm flashbacks

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[barren crater]

2042 is trash tier

[fierce gull]

I have only encountered one hacker on 2042 who was aimbotting with a minigun on a condor
reported him and a few days later I got an email saying he was banned

[supple relic]

Agreed well done ea for making good game

[arctic grove]

this game is so fucked that ea and dice dont care about it anymore
6 months after launch, and was highly anticipated

[supple relic]

Why you on there server then

[arctic grove]

cause im a fan of the series

[oak fable]

how big is dice?

[arctic grove]

AAA studio big

[dusty elm]

Thy got a lot of work to do

[foggy crest]

700+ employees

[supple relic]

Good point

[oak fable]

do we know the number?

[foggy crest]

wikipedia

[oak fable]

of course lol

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[rapid thunder]

So glad dying light 2 came out. They smashed it. Unlike 2042 😒

[foggy crest]

Number of employees 714 (2020)

[oak fable]

with season 1 coming 8-9 months after launch this game will be lucky to even get the come back bf5 did

[fierce gull]

well Dice has been known for doing good comebacks for the past years

[oak fable]

and we can hope the season is coming out with the content of two but its still only going to have 1 map 1 specialist and 1 gun

[fiery solar]

level 500 bombing everyone in game. not fun only in battlefield for some reason

[fierce gull]

Will not be surprised if people like the game in a few years

[oak fable]

but there first update has never taken 5 months lets alone 9

[foggy crest]

and also known for continuous broken launches too

[oak fable]

bf5 took two years so that doesnt get me too excited

[fiery solar]

next content update is 7 months after release

[oak fable]

8

november-june is 8 months but it will likely come in july

[fiery solar]

could be 8 or more it doesnt say june just early summer

[dusty elm]

so all the bugs fixed in 7 months

[fierce gull]

if they make it june they smart af

[fiery solar]

hahahaha

[oak fable]

which is late june technically but most people would just refer to summer starting start of june

[fierce gull]

it better be a good summer

[foggy crest]

and this is not a good thing its almost like shoot somebody and then send him to ER ICU

[fierce gull]

worth a risk

[oak fable]

we like to think it will but it really wont

[foggy crest]

thats not how thing should work

[fiery solar]

missed playing battlefield 4 counting the days for 2042 gameplay reveal

[oak fable]

i would be surprised if they pulled a hardline and dropped another battlefield during the lifespan of the current battlefield

[fierce gull]

unfortunately they want money

[foggy crest]

not a good thing

[desert elbow]

It’s a bad thing they want money?

[fiery solar]

the amount of hype and everyone being told not to have high expectations while still having high expectations only for it to be crushed by IM READY FOR ROUND 2

[foggy crest]

for broken launches its really bad

[fierce gull]

I always snipe Sundance

[fiery solar]

no heart put into it just made it so they could be richer

[oak fable]

its a bad thing they want money exclusively and not a happy fanbase

[desert elbow]

Of course but as long as it’s fixed in the end, then I’m fine with it

[desert elbow]

and you know this how exactly?

[foggy crest]

u are fine i am not

[fiery solar]

just look at it

[desert elbow]

If they didn’t want happy fans they wouldn’t update it

[fiery solar]

the numbers mason

[desert elbow]

Fair point

[desert elbow]

Look at the concept books for example, they had huge ambitions and really cared

[foggy crest]

numbers are scary

[fiery solar]

cool art doesnt make up for anything however, it is sick

[fierce gull]

if they add Hardline and Recker and show who Oz is
11/10 for me

[fiery solar]

oz is dead

[fierce gull]

no

[desert elbow]

Well yeah but you said they didn’t care at all

[fierce gull]

he still alive

[fiery solar]

i forgot there was lore to this ive only watched exodus 3 times and read the story line each day once

they had nothing else to show they had to make lore that wouldnt be used in the actual game lol

the new game shouldve been portal itself how cool would that be

[fierce gull]

I wonder how many people know that the tornados are controlled by a satellite

[fiery solar]

the government has been destroying these rockets

[foggy crest]

almost every game has artbook mw19 also has artbook

[fierce gull]

it shows the US flag on it 😳

we will probably get other disasters for this game

[arctic grove]

HAARP rn:

[fiery solar]

kinda still wish breakaway had a giant avalanche with that huge block of ice at F

[fierce gull]

we are gonna experience battlefield 2042 in real life

[fiery solar]

its all part of the plan

[dusty elm]

if not sooner

[fierce gull]

Those who refunded battlefield 2042 are gonna play the game in real life

[arctic grove]

breakaway not having at least a blizzard that blocks your vision and can hurt troops to like half HP is odd

[fiery solar]

they'll regret not learning how to pilot a tuk tuk when they need it

[fierce gull]

but hey we can survive a sandstorm

a huge big sandstorm

[fiery solar]

not even blinded i can go out there in a tanktop and hat fighting fully armored juggernaut looking russians

[fierce gull]

imagine that amount of sand goes into your eyes

[fiery solar]

2042 eyes are next gen

[arctic grove]

or into helicopter engines and stuff

[fierce gull]

You can actually hear the impact of sand hitting your heli

propeller or something

but doesn't do anything just a sound effect

[fiery solar]

dont listen to it that close but i like the sand that can bump into things

was expecting teardown destruction the most we get is walls on a little home with no furniture

[sharp cedar]

Anyone wanna play PS4 2042

[fiery solar]

respect the dedication playing on ps4

[fierce gull]

I forgot hourglass is a real place

[fiery solar]

everything else fake🥺

[glacial lantern]

Stodeh's video hits all the sweet points regarding 2042.

[fiery solar]

i forgot i saw a 59 minute video of how bad this game is it got everything right

really enjoyed the game today but wish the lights in buildings in hourglass and giant explosions were still there

[fierce gull]

After the March update: I got 500 kills with the PKP with the new Mackay skin

[foggy crest]

i enjoyed actman video

[naive quiver]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/slk3p3/join_me_in_sending_a_message_to_ea_look_up_your/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

🤣🤣 interesting

[fierce gull]

what is reddit doing

why tf did someone send a message to the department of justice

[glacial lantern]

It is worth a consumer complaint in my opinion. I'm glad someone is taking some action on a moderate level.

[fierce gull]

wtf they gonna do

[glacial lantern]

Whatever is in their legal right as a consumer.

EA has most of their bases covered to be honest with you, this may not go far at all.

[foggy crest]

i think he is that kind of guy who write letters for justice if his snickers is broken in two pieces when he bought it

[glacial lantern]

Or a guy told an unreasonable lie when it came to the features of BF2042?

[foggy crest]

yep

[fierce gull]

Apparently this happened more than once lol

not just with 2042

[supple relic]

You lads seen the dinner bone glich yet

[foggy crest]

tomorrow if i find a single lays chiips which is broken i will write letters

[glacial lantern]

Should have been a whole chip. Not broken.

[fierce gull]

reported to the FBI for false advertisement

[foggy crest]

🏳️ for justice

[foggy crest]

exactly man

[fierce gull]

Actually this is something serious

Contact the white house themselves https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

[glacial lantern]

lol don't get started on Brandon

[pure basin]

The state of this game is an infringement on our god given rights

[solid imp]

Took me awhile to spot that it's not US DOJ it's Oregon DOJ

[fierce gull]

huh I didn't realize that

[foggy crest]

u can always write letters

[torpid vortex]

People are complaining that the game is dead, we need to be paid to play this game so that people stop complaining.

[glacial lantern]

Letters are far more scarier than email when it comes to legality.

[foggy crest]

game is not dead

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mexican-hankerchief-gif-18479094

[torpid vortex]

that's what i'm saying, I have quality matches, MMR works just not in breakthrough as much because my team folds up like a toilet paper that went in the garbage. But the game is good, they are letting 'cringers' society people from steam and illegal cross developers cause un-fixable issues.

[foggy crest]

i wish u can also send gif that appears not just stay as a link

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-management-jack-nicholson-yes-duh-nods-gif-5222702

[fierce gull]

so many negative shit in the sub reddit

[foggy crest]

this one was scary

[fierce gull]

lemma post rock pics in it

[white geyser]

The only way to stop all the toxic message in Reddit battlefield, is to make a good comeback

[fierce gull]

nah it needs daily rock pics

[foggy crest]

stones , sand , mountain ?

[fierce gull]

all of em

[foggy crest]

nice

[fierce gull]

today is gonna be rocks

[foggy crest]

u seriously need nitro

[fierce gull]

indeed

ehhhhh

[foggy crest]

WORK IN PROGRESS

[fierce gull]

they fixed a lot of issues not enough

come back in March

[white geyser]

Journey to season, is where they gonna specifically fix the game

[arctic grove]

do I have to play battlefields one through two thousand and forty one before I play this one

[solid imp]

It's like screennames.. the other ones were taken already

[ember nimbus]

yes

[foggy tundra]

[foggy crest]

no u only have to play battlefield 1 because thats the first game released in 2016

[iron kraken]

How long is left to do the weekly guys?

[solid imp]

I miss Titan mode

[glacial lantern]

I wish there was some positivity to the reddit... I know it's deserving, but still.

[foggy crest]

u are scary u were watching and scanning the entire chat for 2142 ?

[solid imp]

Just not the same when you don't launch in a little pod

[white geyser]

Bring back Titan mode in 2042 and portal

[solid imp]

Bf4 Hanger map has that easter egg but... Limited usefulness

Yesss... So now we know that 2042 needs daily rock pics and walkers

[neat zenith]

g fucking g... wildcat unable to fucking lock a jet with AA rockets.... talk about the most fucked up bug for a vehicle

[solid imp]

Rock paper scissors

[white geyser]

EBAA WILDCAT tank, I better keep reminding them to add another missile as a secondary weapon that can fire freely.

[neat zenith]

every update they put out they patch 1 or 2 things add some weapon medallions and fuck up a bunch more shit

[fierce gull]

damn people are downvoting my rock post in reddit

they can't handle the good rocks

[white geyser]

If I remember correctly, the AA missile they ignore the flares both Jets and Choppers. They just hit you directly and not reacting to the flares.

[plucky creek]

Cool so Nvidia driver 511.65 crashes my game then and there

[glacial lantern]

This guy makes a lot of sense too.... Can't confirm his concerns regarding "Skeleton Crew", but I wouldn't doubt it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/slfoxp/battlefield_2042_is_not_worth_saving_and_dice/

[foggy tundra]

yes

[fierce gull]

yes but https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/smc7n7/delicious_rocks_in_2042/

[glacial lantern]

Did you just post this 6 minutes ago? lol

[fierce gull]

yep

[glacial lantern]

lol nerd.

[fierce gull]

[arctic grove]

[scarlet rune]

salve pra quem é brasileiro

[fossil flax]

I love 2042

[fierce gull]

no you don't

[arctic grove]

@fierce gull what happened to your purple role fren?

[fierce gull]

I lost nitro

[white geyser]

So many things we want for BF 2042, fans wants one and I want one too.

[fierce gull]

No campaign but you can play solo/co-op

and portal

ye

[somber pebble]

[neat zenith]

if u want bot matches then 2042 is it for u

[old ridge]

Game so deadddddd

[fierce gull]

game is dead?

[neat zenith]

im half tempted to start playing CoD again

[chilly oak]

As if

[fierce gull]

I have a video for you

[neat zenith]

share it

[mossy badge]

Can you revive it for us 🥺

[neat zenith]

i dont even like CoD but i have nothing else to get my FPS fix..... i enjoy the style of game BF is but 2042 is so crap i dont wanna buy another one

[fierce gull]

#battlefield-2042 message

Hackers are able to noclip vehicles now in cod lmao

[neat zenith]

haha atleast the vehicle hit-reg works

more accurate than a anything anti-air in BF2042 also

[arctic grove]

Bro BF1 operations mode is hella dope

[fierce gull]

I gotta join cuz i hear they giving out everyone Damascus

[arctic grove]

It feels so fun to charge right at the enemy in 1 and die in honor after getting a bayonet charge kill

[neat zenith]

im still baffled how they released 2042 with no Voice Chat, no scoreboard, no ability to swap squads/teams. oh and no hit-reg

[mossy badge]

Just wait this for this year call of duty

[wide violet]

all hail the superior battlefield

[mossy badge]

What is 2142 ?

[neat zenith]

whats it look like ?

[fierce gull]

hardline better

[wide violet]

the best battlefield game to ever release

[mossy badge]

It will look like call of duty

[fierce gull]

cops and robbers battlefield > anything else

[mossy badge]

Never heard of it

[wide violet]

just means your young

[neat zenith]

battlefield 2142 was my favorite o_O

[wide violet]

it came out 2008 i think

[arctic grove]

Heard of 2142 but just never played

One day if I can snatch a ps3 from somewhere I can

[neat zenith]

wasnt 2142 the first one with destroyable buildings ?

[mossy badge]

Ohhh

[foggy tundra]

2006

[wide violet]

that was Bad Company

[foggy tundra]

2008 was northern strike

[neat zenith]

running around in mechs and shit was bad ass

[wide violet]

ah 2006, a simpler time

[foggy tundra]

bf2142 and guild wars 1 came out about the same time

[neat zenith]

GW1 was so fun also. i mained a summoner and wrecked shit in the 3v3 pvp or what ever it was

[foggy tundra]

gw1 didnt have summoners

[wide violet]

blasphemer

[neat zenith]

what was it called the one that has the spirits

[foggy tundra]

ranger

[wide violet]

ask bf4s final stand dlc

[mossy badge]

Difficult for dice

[neat zenith]

CORRECTION - ritualist

[foggy tundra]

OHYE

im half asleep af

i used to main rit

how tf didi forget

but rangers do have spirits too

[old ridge]

No is really DEAD

[neat zenith]

its been so long i called ritualist summoner 😛

[foggy tundra]

this isnt a jrpg

[old ridge]

Same company but not same devs

[foggy tundra]

[fierce gull]

my region still alive lol

Cuz we are superior

[mossy badge]

Can you use your defibrillator to bring it back

[old ridge]

it is impossible to bring something back once it dies

[mossy badge]

😔

I will never ever use defibrillator from now

[fierce gull]

Battlefield 7 is shit
2042 is much better

[arctic grove]

7 pog

[fierce gull]

Wait I'm 3 years early

[arctic grove]

Don’t leak it

[mossy badge]

No it fooled us we didn't revived anyone they all were ghosts of the soldiers we were all in illusion

Because you can't bring dead person back to life

[fierce gull]

It's gonna be battlefield but in space

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

But defibrillators

[graceful hatch]

2042 is made by a bunch of newer developers, most if not all the devs who made bf3, bf4, bf1 etc have all moved on. DICE atm is basically a bunch of kids standing on each other’s shoulders wearing a trench coat lol

[old ridge]

who said that bf2042 would not have more content until summer? Remember that updates to fix bugs is our free content

[mossy badge]

It lied to us can't believe defibrillator

[arctic grove]

I rather have them fix the game before content

[fierce gull]

Finally some new conte- Windows 7 crash error

[arctic grove]

Sometimes if your body gets glitched through the wall they can’t revive you

[graceful hatch]

I’d rather they released the game in a working state so we don’t have to wait 6 months for a new map

[mossy badge]

Guys the skin makers are another team not the bug fix team they are separated

[arctic grove]

This is modern gaming companies will always do this

[fierce gull]

Working state? Dice? Battlefield? Live service?

[old ridge]

Tripleee a gamessss

[mossy badge]

Yep 😂😂😂😂

[graceful hatch]

Only because of the armies of spods out there who buy the trash day 1

[arctic grove]

Pisses me off

[arctic grove]

Ironic because I did pre order day one

[graceful hatch]

It’s not ironic at all, the battlefield community is fucking dense. They endlessly bitch about broken releases and lack of content but then turn around and throw handfuls of cash at EA when they even whisper the word “battlefield”.

U guys literally create the whole situation for yourselves lmao

[mossy badge]

HOPE

[arctic grove]

I have 111 hours already in 2042 I like the game, yeah the bugs piss me off & the updates but this is battlefield. They’ll never change their way

[blissful prawn]

avg bf launch

[graceful hatch]

Not when u keep making excuses like that they won’t, ur not providing them with any incentives to change their way

[mossy badge]

After reading this I realise crashes are actually feature

😱

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-mandalorian-mando-this-is-the-way-armor-gif-17546902

[fierce gull]

As a battlefield fan who has been playing battlefield for 500 years
I declare this message fact

[mossy badge]

You should thanks to anaconda

[scarlet rune]

qm é Br aqui?

[mossy badge]

What 🤔 😦

[scarlet rune]

garai

who is brazilian here?

isso q eu falei tendeu?

[rustic root]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-din-djarin-boba-fett-gif-20600751

[arctic grove]

[mossy badge]

Mods will mute you if you will use another language 😅

[radiant echo]

@scarlet runePlease stick with English here.

[mossy badge]

Left guy suit is awesome ☺️

[scarlet rune]

ok

[arctic grove]

Chapter 6 was a pog episode

[rustic root]

https://tenor.com/view/cad-bane-boba-fett-star-wars-star-wars-western-showdown-gif-24739311

[arctic grove]

Battlefield 1 feels like a WWII game sometimes because the players turn the entire map into a fucking gas chamber with those grenades

[graceful hatch]

ah yes, that old classic star wars character, "left guy"

[rustic root]

i meaaaaan HEHEHE

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/cad-bane-cad-bane-book-of-boba-fett-star-wars-gif-24738881

[mossy badge]

Smg 08 and Lewis gunners too I used to thought that in WW1 there was no automatic weapons 🤐

[scarlet rune]

hwo can play now?

[graceful hatch]

no automatic weapons in ww1 lmao? what dude? ww1 was in the early 1900s, they werent firing musket balls at each other lmao

[arctic grove]

[mossy badge]

That's what I thought 😳

Muskets

[foggy tundra]

automatic weapons were used in the american civil war

[mossy badge]

Bolt actions

[rustic root]

cad bane is scary in general

[graceful hatch]

mate the Maxim gun was made in the 1880s and a bolt action is NOT a musket lmao

[scarlet rune]

hwo's brazilian here?

[foggy tundra]

the gatling gun was used in 1865

[mossy badge]

No I am just saying what I thought I thought only bolt action was used in ww1

[graceful hatch]

the gatling gun isnt technically automatic as it requires hand cranking

[foggy tundra]

but it can rapid fire

[arctic grove]

Its made by the guy who brought the coffee

[graceful hatch]

so can a bolt action rifle in skilled hands, doesnt make it automatic

[arctic grove]

[mossy badge]

Glock

[graceful hatch]

cant say i care enough to do more than a quick google search but the first, or one of the first, truly automatic weapons was the Maxim gun which was made in the early/mid 1880s

[arctic grove]

The first Gatling gun was 1861

[mossy badge]

I wish they add fully automatic glock and we can dual wield it too

[graceful hatch]

but as we just established, a gatling gun isnt automatic

[mossy badge]

I think M4 isn't automatic I have to use trigger

[arctic grove]

[graceful hatch]

the gatling gun was a machine gun which used a crank-action, which isnt fully automatic, its not "pull and play". whereas the maxim gun was a machine gun that fired repeatedly as long as the trigger was depressed and there was ammunition to do so, which is fully automatic.

[foggy tundra]

the US doesnt consider the gatling gun to be a machine gun

[graceful hatch]

saying "yeah but it shoots fast" has no bearing on the actual mechanical principles behind it, u can shoot just as fast with a bolt action or a revolver if u know what ur doing. that doesnt make them automatic

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/a10-warthog-jet-aircraft-gif-7457964

[graceful hatch]

luckily no one asked for the US's opinion

[arctic grove]

[fierce gull]

I wanna see more satellites in action in battlefield 2042

Sure they make cool ass tornados but I wanna see other shit too like tsunamis

[arctic grove]

Pew

[mossy badge]

Beautiful 😍

[lament plank]

oh you think they put thought into these things? lol

[jovial furnace]

That would be sick. There are so many different things they can do. I do hope they update the tornado to do more damage

[neat zenith]

gg i finally start on Manifest as offense ( my favorite map) and the game crashes gg

[jovial furnace]

Tough

[neat zenith]

happense every fucking time

[jovial furnace]

That’s really annoying. Especially since it’s your favorite lmao. I crash about once a day. That’s not good, but life goes on. I just get over it

[neat zenith]

whats even more annoying is everytime i start the game even though the settings are for fullscreen it goes window mode lol.

so i have to go into settings every time i load the game to reset it windowed mode then back to fullscreen....

[mossy badge]

I want to see meteor and asteroid falling too

[dusky blade]

Sad how they were cut

[old ridge]

Haha

[old ridge]

Tornado need more details ..

[formal imp]

Battlefield 2042

[mossy badge]

They were removed 😱😭😔

[arctic grove]

Battlefield 2042

[old ridge]

Downgradefield 2042

[mossy badge]

DowngradeDutyField 2042

[old ridge]

DowngradeDutyApexOverwachField

[arctic grove]

I want werewolf levelution

[mossy badge]

U missing fortnite

[mossy badge]

U mean soldiers turning into werewolf ???

[arctic grove]

yes

[mossy badge]

Sounds awesome 👍

[old ridge]

Whatt

Thats sound kids

[mossy badge]

Brandonnnnnnn and me wants werewolf

[mossy badge]

What do you want then 🤔

[old ridge]

bigger destructions, more realistic gameplay, realistic graphics, realistic animations. previous battlefield mechanics

[mossy badge]

Just wait for 10 minutes someone will reply brutal expectations 👀

[arctic grove]

i want werewolf

[mossy badge]

Maybe the next BATTLEFIELD will have these things when they don't have to think about old gen consoles

[old ridge]

the mechanics of before were, the soldiers get their clothes dirty with the ground, recoil when a nearby explosion occurs, things like that

[mossy badge]

Like when you prone gun gets dirty

[mossy badge]

They are beautiful details ngl

[old ridge]

Hel no

[fierce gull]

They are tbh

The raindrops are pretty good

[fierce gull]

Even vehicles get them

[mossy badge]

Next gen feature right there 😳

[old ridge]

bf4's player revive system is the best, and bf2042 is the worst

[wide violet]

bf5*

[old ridge]

Bf5 so good

[fierce gull]

I rarely revived people in bf5 lol

I don't think I ever revived someone once lmao

[old ridge]

In bf2042 you freeze

[mossy badge]

I die a lot so I got revived a lot I don't know why I die always near medics

[fierce gull]

You mean when you get stuck when you touch objects?

[mossy badge]

I am good at dieing

[fierce gull]

Who isn't

[mossy badge]

Dieing is ez

[old ridge]

Falk's healing gun also heals you if it shoots the ground, why is there a way to inject yourself?

[fiery shoal]

Revive in 2042 is better than bfv

[fierce gull]

That is a thing?

[arctic grove]

I want to shoot the healing gun up my ass

[old ridge]

much more realistic bfv, in bf2042 you only feel despair

[mossy badge]

That's some next gen stuff I think 🤔

[fiery shoal]

Not everyone wants realistic. 2043 revive takes the same amount of time but you’re not soft locked to an animation and not stationary while reviving. Better for gameplay.

[old ridge]

specialists have no place on a battlefield

[fiery shoal]

Nice deflection

[mossy badge]

Why you don't like it ?

[old ridge]

You really asking?

[fiery shoal]

Why not just be answer the guy?

[mossy badge]

Yeah what makes them annoying ?

[fierce gull]

The voice lines and that's it

[mossy badge]

Ok point 1 👍

[flat brook]

guys im not gonna lie i like battlefield 2042

[fierce gull]

Some people say because of clones fighting each other but that's a shitty reason
It's all because of the voicelines

[rain hatch]

ye fr

[arctic grove]

banned

[rain hatch]

just shoot the man surrounded by red letters and frames!

its easy to see em!

[old ridge]

specialists break all teamwork. Specialists were put in to monetize it brutally i know ea

[mossy badge]

But who watches face while fighting and in 4-3-5-1 also had same looking soldiers

[fierce gull]

There is still teamwork there

[flat brook]

banned from the battlefield discord for liking a battlefield game 🤦‍♂️ I see something wrong there lol. But i already got permanently banned and appealed on this discord so yeah.

[fiery shoal]

Locked loadouts hinder teamwork, not specialists.

[old ridge]

a game where you can use sniper, medic, c5

This not bf lol

[rain hatch]

locked loadouts made the team, so the rest of the team could be there where one classes cons would be their pros

[mossy badge]

That's like I am engineer , doctor and politician insane

[torpid vortex]

idk it's kind of more fun with specialists after you played the game for a while, the should make more of the map size playable though

[fiery shoal]

Yes. That has nothing to do with specialists.

[flat brook]

It is kind of funny that I trolled that BF2042 would be horrible and have no destruction etc on this discord and people were mad at me, then i got banned, but then the game released

[rain hatch]

it does, why would a medic specialist be allowed to carry c5 or a recoiless

and not heal anybody for the matter

[fiery shoal]

Just because dice introduced specialists and open loadouts at the same time doesn’t mean they go hand in hand.

[arctic grove]

to blow up tankbabbies

[fiery shoal]

Dice could have locked loadouts and put specialists in their roles as well…

[rain hatch]

then why didnt they

money… they didnt care… i could go on

[fiery shoal]

Likely because they only have 22 weapons, not enough to fill locked loadouts to classes

[desert elbow]

How does that get them more money

[rain hatch]

idk you tell me, im the one asking

[fiery shoal]

Still doesn’t mean that specialists are synonymous with open loadouts…

[rain hatch]

yes but they could’ve given us non specialist modes, sorta like how solo matches are bots that are soldiera

[storm crane]

They did- it’s call Portal

[desert elbow]

True, they should add 2042 classes to Portal

[fiery shoal]

Cool?

[rain hatch]

yes but for 2042, i bought it purely for the futuristic appeal

[rain hatch]

great addition

they’ll obviously fix it up but main playerbase has plummeted

[torpid vortex]

i'm sure they assumed the game would play like titan fall after a while and you'd have about 12 people in a game. I think the game is going to improve in the Summer and I think people will realize that the game is actually pretty good.

[desert elbow]

It’s possible to regain it, it’s been done before

[old ridge]

No

[rain hatch]

ye but how many times will it happen before they get it right

[old ridge]

this is not battlefield, the only thing about battlefield is the name

[torpid vortex]

not sure what playerbase really is, how many influencers get party lobbies together of 'cringers' let's go make a 2042 bug cringe video. There is a lot of degeneration and money in that

[rain hatch]

main playerbase is og battlefield fans

[fiery shoal]

it does have the main core of bf in large scale warfare...

[rain hatch]

not alot have stuck around that is for sure

[old ridge]

Battlefield not created battlefield lol

[fiery shoal]

no idea what big brain comment you think this is

[next onyx]

The next make or break it will be when season 1 starts. So we'll see what happens then and there.

[rain hatch]

as big brained as the comment “Cool?”

[torpid vortex]

um the og battlefield fans are literally like Ravic, T1 Blazn, me delysid, that's like probably the only people still playing the game OG

[junior hedge]

I'm waiting for Battlefield2042 to come to EA Play on Steam then I'll start playing it more

[fiery shoal]

youre bringing up separate topics from what we were originally talking about, im not interested in going around in circles so ended it there.

[old ridge]

Im waiting for battlefield VI

[rain hatch]

im talking about ALL OG PLAYERS, not just influencers.

[fiery shoal]

i hope youre not holding your breath

[amber kelp]

I remember people said "make or break" for every update for BFV. None of its updates ever really made or broke anything, since the game was broken at launch.
Same for 2042. People already passed their judgement

[torpid vortex]

I'm 32 that makes most of the OGs like 40+

[rain hatch]

thats why battlefront 2 has lost heaps of its core fans, cause it started out shit, but then it came back and it hit hard, but noone was really left to care

[next onyx]

Yeah the vast majority have passed their judgement for the game

[fiery shoal]

i back the sentiment, but bfv launch was actually good, it wasnt till they started patching that they introduced bugs

[junior hedge]

Most people move onto the next thing, there's only a short period of time to fix things for people to reconsider and comeback I'd say

[amber kelp]

it didnt really hit hard.
New SWBF2 content is about as bad as old swbf2 content

[next onyx]

Yeah bf5 had a pretty good launch in comparison to 2042

[amber kelp]

low bar

[arctic grove]

bf5 is great

[next onyx]

It was a bit buggy but it wasn't awful

[old ridge]

Better graphic gameplay too

[rain hatch]

idk, the clone wars content really spikes up the player count for a bit, but by then it didnt matter

[amber kelp]

BFV's biggest issue at launch was lack of content.

[junior hedge]

2042 tried too hard to innovate with 128 players but I don't think the tech is still there yet without degrading a lot of aspects

[fiery shoal]

launched with 1 less map than bf1

[next onyx]

That was the issue until they started rolling out weapons, maybe I got used to the staleness

[amber kelp]

yeah because theyre star wars fans. They went back for the geonosis update because they like the movies. Its not like the geonosis map was much better than the others

[next onyx]

The rate that we got maps was slower which was annoying, though we got double at the end or something.

[storm crane]

Yea, Ripple Effect made some gorgeous remastered maps for Portal. The potential is there.

[arctic grove]

and a scoreboard

[fiery shoal]

i truly believe the only objective bad thing about bfv was the content droughts, but at least they werent paid for so its not like you were owed anything

[wide violet]

fax

[rain hatch]

the content still brought in many new and old players

[amber kelp]

Yeah but with less factions, a weirdly repetitive format for a lot of maps, and a hilariously broken "rotating" shop.

[torpid vortex]

considering everything that needed more work time, blaming tech and not the actual people that were working on the game isn't right.

[fierce gull]

nah tbh the geonosis map was really good

[amber kelp]

yeah but that doesnt mean its good.

[fiery shoal]

sorry wrong reply

[next onyx]

Yeah at least it were free, but the content droughts were fucking awful.

[fiery shoal]

factions basically boil down to skins, if you care for authenticity have at it, but gameplay wise it meant nothing

[rain hatch]

it was good though, many people wanted clone wars content, and the people have all enjoyed it

[next onyx]

Let's not forget how bad some of the latest patches were

[fiery shoal]

i personally dont have a problem playing something else while waiting for content/changes

[formal imp]

What do y’all think about the weekly missions and their rewards so far

[junior hedge]

Sure the people developing the game were motivated and wanted to make a great product but management and deadlines are a struggle. However, I would say they went a bit stale on the animations, gunplay, etc.

[next onyx]

Bahhhh I know who you're talking to. Don't need to use the reply function haha.
Just sucks when it's the only game you find fun haha

[desert elbow]

Some of the rewards are actually really nice, the missions themselves are prettygood too

[arctic grove]

@next onyx

[fierce gull]

it's alright but nothing really special
but of course they are just small missions

[fiery shoal]

sorry, im used to replying to some 3+ people at any given time because i get ganged up on by the hate brigade so i keep it organized that way

[amber kelp]

Though right off the heels of bf1 the two factions felt bad. Especially when they were often on maps where said faction didnt even fight, and when DICE seemed to flip flop between "Britain vs Germany" and "Axis vs Allies"

[fiery shoal]

again, thats a thing that absolutely doesnt matter to the gameplay

[next onyx]

They'd make more money if they made two proper factions for each teams. Even with specialists.

Or just faction specific armour

[tranquil turtle]

Get rid of factions if it doesn't matter to gameplay
Bad guys vs equally bad guys

[torpid vortex]

I mean gameplay issues aside, which there really aren't that many right now, lobbies and matchmaking, and the options screen... are unacceptable. They know for example after the Neverwinter launch when something central to the game flow gets hacked like the auction house the game will never recover. When hazard zone doesn't work for solo queue that's the same area. Can't select matchmaking region... AFK players will infinitely loop through new games... it's just lazy, and no excuse for the oversight.

[fiery shoal]

thats kind of what 2042 is about

[fierce gull]

Just wear masked skins if you hate skins showing faces

[hidden sand]

One of the things actually good about 2042, the challenges promote teamplay and playing the game properly.

[fierce gull]

and make your own class loadout

ez done

[tranquil turtle]

It makes the "war" going on seem meaningless

[amber kelp]

There is more to a game then its mechanics. To most games there is a fantasy element that people enjoy. I dont think BF is particularly immersive but that fantasy is still there, its the only real reason to make a game in a historical setting in the first place cause otherwise designers are limiting themselves for no reason.
Its the same reason people want lots of guns even if they don't change the gameplay that much, there is a fantasy to just having that gun and using it.

[fiery shoal]

of course there is more to a game than JUST gameplay, but what you choose to prioritize/want changes per person. im just saying while you care about factions and faction accurate time/space, i personally dont give a fuuuuuuu about that at all

[amber kelp]

fair enough.

[hidden sand]

You're talking about art direction and that sandbox feel. Which are absolutely crucial to Battlefield, and have been since the series really took off.

[fierce gull]

damn we are in preseason week 9

[fiery shoal]

i mean.. theres like some 20+ factors of a game outside of gameplay

[snow sandal]

Than*

[amber kelp]

thats part of it, but "fantasy" also just extends to the fact that it is a war game, or any amount of graphics

[amber kelp]

thenn*

[snow sandal]

I didn't want to sound condescending, I'm just slowly healing the increasingly incorrect use of "then" and "than"

[amber kelp]

then*

[hidden sand]

It's odd that they seem to think immersive and detailed art direction isn't something BF has tried to have. BFV was the first time a mainline BF game went into more cartoony territory. It was also proven with that game how much people hate BF going into a more cartoony direction, but y'know how DICE is. Learning from past decisions is not something they do anymore.

[snow sandal]

You nutter

[celest lily]

Gotta be honest, got more then 200 hours in the game, but damn it, i still don't find it fun enough, is their any way to complain about the shit devs that made the game, to lose their jobs?

[snow sandal]

BFV, cartoony? What?!

[hidden sand]

What's also weird is that BF1, the game that is still their highest selling, wasn't enough proof that people love that artstyle in BF.

[snow sandal]

You could possibly argue it had more saturation, but it certainly isn't cartoony

[amber kelp]

BF went into cartoony territory back in Bad Company 1.
Its not that it hasnt tried to be immersive, its just that it hasnt really succeeded for me. Modders and indie devs BTFO dice in terms of immersion

[fiery shoal]

who is "they"? and cartoony? first time ive heard that, also first time ive seen someone claim thats a reason why people hated it...

[hidden sand]

The campaign did, the MP was still representative of that classic BF style. Same with BC2.

[fiery shoal]

just because bfv wasnt grey and brown its cartoony?

[amber kelp]

BC1 was not classic bf by any means

[snow sandal]

That's my issue. What on Earth do you mean by cartoony?

[fiery shoal]

i think they are talking out their ass honestly

2nd most messages in this server, joined this server during bfv beta, i can probably count on my hand how many people called bfv cartoony

[hidden sand]

I could be remembering wrong, but the MPs artstyle was still very BF. The campaign was very silly on the other hand.

[fiery shoal]

i know people preferred the bf1 "gritty" art style, but that doesnt mean not being as gritty as bf1 means its cartoony

[snow sandal]

Silly? Explain. You haven't once clarified what you even meant by cartoony.

[amber kelp]

I think its people not knowing how to describe the issue.
There is a bit of a dissonance between the art direction of maps and the stories around them. Its not that the vibrant maps are inauthentic, but theyre just odd choices for the deadliest war in history.

[fiery shoal]

im not sure what the odd choices are myself...

[torpid vortex]

bad company came with the frostbite engine, and was design focused to have the game flow run smoothly on console. It featured elements of battlefield that felt watered down to players on the PC platform.

[snow sandal]

BFV is definitely more vibrant, more saturated etc.

I'm not sure if it is unrealistic or not though.

[wide violet]

bad company 1 wasnt on pc and only had 12v12

[fiery shoal]

its weird people assume just because ww2 happened that colors just stopped existing and sunny days never happened

[hidden sand]

The voicelines had much more pop and silliness put into them, the color palette was way too saturated for my taste, a lot of the maps had an issue of not really feeling like a warzone either. The elites are pretty self explanatory. The pacific was pretty good regarding this, even if the colors weren't my preference.

BF1 and BFV have tremendous differences between their art direction. I'm not using cartoonish as a way to criticize or insult it, really just wasn't what I hoped for. BF1 was much better with how it handled it's setting.

[snow sandal]

It's purely down to media we've consumed, giving false impressions.

[torpid vortex]

BC2 was on PC and it continued that same line of thought that simplification of game elements was the way to go. That continued all the way until 2042.

[fiery shoal]

lol its like if people went to mexico and said its not realistic because it doesnt have a sepia filter on it

[amber kelp]

Its not unrealistic. But if you want to invoke a sense that you are in this grand and horrible conflict, picking out the prettiest places available is not the best choice to achieve that

[wide violet]

thought you were just talking about bc1

[snow sandal]

The only problem with what you said is that "cartoony" was being used for lack of a better word. 99.9% of people would agree BFV is not cartoony.

But it's fine, you've explained what you meant now.

[fiery shoal]

it was stated from the very beginning that bfv was going to be "ww2 like youve never seen before"

[torpid vortex]

I mean the competitive community was seriously thinking about BC1 because they had the Virgin Mobile 1 million dollar tournament planned. But they didn't follow through.

[amber kelp]

so? That doesnt mean that any art direction will be effective.

[fiery shoal]

it doesnt mean it WOULDNT

[snow sandal]

I'll never get over them rewriting history in the campaign. The teenager who took down the hard water plant. Sure lol

[fiery shoal]

its pretty obvious that bfvs goal was to not be another standard WW2 piece of media

[slate mist]

yeah pretty ass attempt at it

[mossy badge]

Wake Island was cartoon and a playable cartoon massive respect to DICE ❤️

[wide violet]

i wish they woudlve kept supporting bf5 shit was fun

[snow sandal]

Towards the end it was going great

[wide violet]

minus attrition mechanic. That shit is ass

[hidden sand]

Yep, it's all about you present the setting and what your intent is. You can make a war game, and say It's meant to be serious, but if the artwork, modeling, colors, etc don't match that setting and tone, it will fall flat. The pacific was a massive improvement in regards to this.

[fiery shoal]

its not fair to say its my favorite bf title since its one of the most recent and has modern game sensibilities, but it is currently my favorite. at its time though bf3 will always be special to me

[snow sandal]

Huh? But DICE must reinvent the wheel!

[amber kelp]

I dont think there is anything wrong with that. I love that they took the risk to diverge from standard ww2 media. I just think that they werent very successful, an a big reason for that is a dissonance between the tone of various aspects of the game.

[torpid vortex]

Some map info, BC1 map Harvest Day

FARM 2
Farm 2 is unlocked when Farm 1 falls, 1 M1A2 Abrams spawn here. Gold crate 1 is in a Large barn while Gold crate 2 is in a smaller barn. Note that the defenders should destroy the bridge leading up to the Farm in an attempt to slow down Russian armor.

[fiery shoal]

i still dont see a problem, but thats just where we differ, thats fine, not trying to change your mind

[hidden sand]

Attrition was a nice addition imo. It helped teamplay a lot.

[slate mist]

wut

[amber kelp]

Im not trying to convince you to value these things. Im just trying to explain why they bother people, cause you seem to just dismiss them with comments like

its like if people went to mexico and said its not realistic because it doesnt have a sepia filter on it

[slate mist]

have you lost ur fucking mind

[wide violet]

its hard to explain but the game had terrible features, the atmosphere of the game was great. Personally I really enjoyed the customizable soldier, I thought that was genius.

[amber kelp]

no he is correct

[slate mist]

no hes not the only good thing about attrition was ammo stations

[fiery shoal]

i do think some people just have their expectations of what is "authentic" when its arguable its not, im not applying that statement to you, was just a generality

[snow sandal]

Agreed. Stupid progressions/'attachment' systems, attrition, clunky and non-user friendly assignment system

[next onyx]

Specialisations were alright but it was horrible on vehicles

Really the worst parts of 5 simply involve the health aspect of attrition and recoil.

[hidden sand]

I have never been healed, resupplied, revived, etc as much as I have in BFV. That all falls to the fault of attrition, it GREATLY improved teamplay and required people to work together to progress.

Not to mention, the revive and repair being passives were such a great addition.

[snow sandal]

I'd much rather a proper attachment system, instead of a system no one wanted nor needed.

[arctic grove]

the specialisation system is a strange addition, would rather attachments too

[next onyx]

Other parts of it were actually pretty good.

[snow sandal]

Also tying it in with CC was so dumb. CC should never have existed apart from being used for cosmetics

[next onyx]

I kinda prefer specialisations cause you could balance guns around certain combos

[wide violet]

god bf5s weapon attachments were shit

[amber kelp]

I think when they say its "authenticity" theyre misattributing something they liked about bf1. Bf1 is not authentic by any stretch of the definition but the tone was dark, consistent and woven into every aspect of the game, which led to a very good fantasy.
But it doesnt mean theyre being irrational when they say they dislike those things from bfv, they just dont fully understand why

[next onyx]

But attachments as a whole is a simpler, free-er system

[slate mist]

are you mad

[snow sandal]

You can do that with attachments too though. There was no need for it to be that exact way

[fiery shoal]

thats a good point, personally i dont care to interpret what someone means to say, so i just assume they are dumb and move on

[arctic grove]

I hate the limited healing though, I use medic because of the infinite med packs

[next onyx]

Both have their merits and I'm not saying neither are worse or better. I just enjoyed the dynamic with specs.

[torpid vortex]

There is stuff in BFV that didn't work in BF1942 with the same exact presentation of it

[vague panther]

I hate bf vehicle balancing

[next onyx]

The vehicle infantry dynamic or just vehicle on vehicle

[vague panther]

vehicle on vehicle

[amber kelp]

specializations gave them way more control.

[vague panther]

literally level 1 plane takes 300000 shots to kill someone and 10 shots if you’re level 4 plane

[hidden sand]

You could still do the same thing with how BF4 did it, just have different selection tabs to balance what you can use together.

[vague panther]

and don’t even talk about bf5 bomb balancing frrrr

[next onyx]

Specialisations suck for vehicles

[snow sandal]

What do you mean by that

[next onyx]

With a weapon it's less abhorrent

[snow sandal]

Why does it suck for vehicles but not for weapons?

[versed vine]

Bf2042 Is dead

[next onyx]

Because for vehicles a level 4 vehicle can out damage a level 1 tank

[amber kelp]

specializations meant that certain attachments could only come with certain other attachments, which you cannot do with a 4 slot system.

[next onyx]

A lv 1 valentine stands no chance versus a level 4 panzer iv

[dapper summit]

Never understand why BF doesn’t keep things that were good and build upon them.

[fierce gull]

What makes you think 2042 is dead if it's happening in real life

[next onyx]

A level 1 corsair 1c is out manoeuvred by a level 4 zero

And that plane should have an advantage

[wide violet]

DICE likes to reinvent the wheel alot

[snow sandal]

I'm confused. Do you not want meaniful progression? This 'issue' isn't exclusive to specialisations.

[fierce gull]

Shouldn't have refunded suckers
2042 is preparing us for world war 3

[slate mist]

why not a ukraine map to keep up with the times

[wide violet]

so much that they probably just killed their franchise lol

[dapper summit]

@wide violet very true. 3 steps forward 5 steps back

[amber kelp]

Do you not want meaniful progression?
Yes

[snow sandal]

You certainly can. You think you can't do it because there isn't a graphic showing it?

[fierce gull]

Ukraine is probably destroyed in 2042

[next onyx]

I want meaningful progression but you know, there are ways that could be better done.

I couldn't care that a zero has 6 hmgs, lemme out turn them.

[slate mist]

nuclear wasteland

[hidden sand]

You could do the same thing with a 4 slot system, you would just have a shit load of options within those 4 slots.

[amber kelp]

You cannot tie a barrel to a certain magazine if both are in different slots

[next onyx]

Anyways I need milk

[fierce gull]

I'm about to get drafted and rain hell on the Russians with my tuk tuk

[slate mist]

amen brother

[lone wren]

has anyone experienced weird delays in the solo/coop games where your movement is delayed hard

[snow sandal]

You can lock them from use. This has been seen in previous titles AND hundreds of other games lol

Why is this so hard to imagine?

[wide violet]

its gonna be interesting to see what happens next. Dice doesnt have any vet devs anymore it seems so idk how theyre gonna be going forward

[amber kelp]

then its not the 4 slot system seen in bf4 or 2042.

[amber kelp]

where each slot exists independently from eachother

[snow sandal]

There are certain gadgets you couldn't use with others. It was simple, but that advanced tech really does exist!

You don't need an info graphic for this to exist.

[fierce gull]

Is mackay's grapple hook possible?

[lone wren]

^

[amber kelp]

that was only for the launcher and underbarrel, both of which are the same type of item and occupy the same slots in inventory (even if theres 2 of them)
And besides, that only determined what you cant use with certain items. It did not mean that you had to use one item to use another

[torpid vortex]

The coding issue has more to do with what is being adopted as industry practicality. So you have whoever the senior programmers kind of shaping the programming flow for everyone else, but it doesn't work. That position should be crafting the game.

[hidden sand]

The equipment customization BFV gave you with its vehicles was unreal. You could make the Sherman a close quarters flamethrower tank, or a longer range tank and infantry fighter. Vehicles were varied between factions and in the factions themselves, had their specific roles, etc.

People brag about BF4s customization but for vehicles there was zero variety. Wanna play a tank? AP, HMG, and APS. LAV? 25mm, TOW, APS. Otherwise you're dead.

BFV finally allowed you to actually perform well even if you don't wanna use the absolute meta loudout.

[snow sandal]

There were other things you couldn't use together.

Anyways, why does it have to be done via a stupid infographic? It can simply be done with a regular attachment system

[arctic grove]

Sell me your soul 🐱

[amber kelp]

is youre issue really just about the UI? The UI was only like that to make the game's shitty progression system more clear

[torpid vortex]

or they should have just made the options and matchmaking make sense and not let all the laziness of playerstate and bugs through due to handling or handling in whatever network or hardware conditions. But some things like offset pilots outside of the chopper in beta would be something that can be fixed any day before beta. So you know it's laziness... or making other games look better like COD.

[snow sandal]

BF4 has a lot of viable weapons. Most guns were usable

[hidden sand]

You misread. I was talking about vehicles.

[snow sandal]

No it isn't, but that's what you seemed to be focused on

[arctic grove]

Remember back in early January everyone was hyped 😃😂😂

[sturdy patrol]

Worst mistake of my life

[amber kelp]

BFV's skill trees were no different than a 3 attachment system where the 2nd option was two attachments tied together.
If you think that second option is ok then youre only issue is that its presented via skill tree

[arctic grove]

Lol I told ya stop it with hype train 😂😂😂

[sly merlin]

Eh, BFV’s we’re a little less conflicting.

[sturdy patrol]

Lesson learned

[sly merlin]

It was mostly, either increased aim in stability or hip fire.

[arctic grove]

Game first hype last

[hidden sand]

Each factions vehicles in BF4 were just reskins of each other, and you could only run one loudout if you wanted to perform well. BFV finally allowed some variety and interesting mechanics.

[sly merlin]

Or sometimes it was range versus ammo capacity.

[sturdy patrol]

Facts

[amber kelp]

its weird, all the warning signs were there back in may

[lone wren]

Ok i think the mouse lag still exists

[arctic grove]

Exactly especially with the leaks lol

[fierce gull]

people always hyped for new bf except hardline

[sturdy patrol]

Trailers is what it hyped everyone

[fierce gull]

no one was hyped for hardline

[arctic grove]

Hardline gameplay got me hyped I'm like is this battlefield lite tactical shooter

[fierce gull]

I need hardline in portal

i need my cops and robbers back but in 16k

[amber kelp]

game looked a lot better when the trailer was too choppy to make out that it was a hero shooter, and when Henderson's leaks implied "no pats" would just be further customization than bfv

[arctic grove]

less than 3 weeks until elden ring lads, cant fucking wait

[amber kelp]

be careful.
any company can fuck up

[sturdy patrol]

Wish i was able to refund btf to buy it lol

[arctic grove]

It gave me hero shooter vibes 😂

[hidden sand]

The reveal trailer was the biggest red flag for me, while cool, screamed that they knew they fucked up because it was very clearly trying to hide specialist. Also tried making the maps look more interesting than they actually are.

[fierce gull]

I find no pats a pretty cool idea

[torpid vortex]

IDK it's a lot of waste, hyping things like star citizen to get people who are interested in the genre I guess, more interested/invested in something. But when so much marketing and influence goes into something it affects every other developer. And you have a situation right now where franchises are being bought so those are the only games that are really going to be successful, and anything else that is indy is still the same thing... you can assume that it would be harder for ex-Activision and Blizzard to just launch a new game after being bought out.

[amber kelp]

how could you make out anyone in that trailer when it flashed every 0.5 seconds and had the big black bar in the middle

[arctic grove]

True

[fierce gull]

you talking about the unreleased trailer?

[amber kelp]

ye

[fierce gull]

The condors with propellers looked cool but I prefer this one

[snow sandal]

The leaked 'trailer'? How did you get hero shooter vibes?

[arctic grove]

Lol I thought it be gritty gameplay but nope it's a trailer a CGI

[hidden sand]

The gameplay trailer was a huge red flag too, but everyone was too hyped to acknowledge any of the issues with it, rip. Hype can really blind you lol.

[arctic grove]

Rainbow six siege vet my boy I can see hero shooter incoming

[snow sandal]

We saw regular soldiers and then a single guy who had a unique helmet.

I don't believe you thought it was a hero shooter from that leaked in house trailer.

[amber kelp]

7 seconds of gunplay.
Then total silence for a month with the excuse "August was focused on lore"
Then "Sep. tem. ber"

[fiery shoal]

he sees a unique player model and assumes its a hero shooter, even though theres way more to a hero shooter than that

[arctic grove]

The no pats patch

[amber kelp]

you did not see an armband in that trailer
Also how would that mean anything?

[mossy badge]

Imo best hero shooter was black ops 3 , plants vs zombies garden warfare 2 and overwatch

[arctic grove]

BO3 my favorite

[amber kelp]

bruh. How can you miss the big one

[snow sandal]

Full of bs. You didn't think that. If you did, it was based off of nothing.

[mossy badge]

Which one ?

[hidden sand]

First thing I noticed in the gameplay trailer was the extremely downgraded animations, which I hoped were just kinks of an older build. Sadly I was mistaken.

[arctic grove]

tf2

[arctic grove]

Re watch the trailer you see Sundance and McKay etc

[mossy badge]

I played it it's not bad

[mossy badge]

Focus on sand in gameplay trailer

[snow sandal]

And you seriously saw them at the time (no distinctive faces mind you) and thought "ah yes, hero shooter".

You didn't just see it as customisation, just like BFV had

Sorry, I'm not buying your lies.

[amber kelp]

I looked though, you see what I think are Dozer and Rao, but its not apparent that either are heroes. I just thought "hey, customization items like bfv"

[snow sandal]

Exactly.

[arctic grove]

They will NEVER top the bf1 reveal trailer

[mossy badge]

It's avg

[snow sandal]

BF1 was within the perfect storm.

[hidden sand]

Everyone did. Everyone assumed they would build off BFV, because that's the logical step. Too bad we realized how wrong we were to assume that.

[snow sandal]

Nah, this Miles Castle Campbell guy used his high IQ to know it was a hero shooter, despite us not knowing anything about the game.

[amber kelp]

Especially when BFV received flak for being more inclusive than the historical event. So when I saw that "youd be playing as refugees" I assumed "hey they made it so playing as anyone is lore accurate"

[hidden sand]

The specialist system was revealed pretty much alongside the trailers though, if I'm not mistaken?

[snow sandal]

We're talking about the leaked in house trailer.

[hidden sand]

O

[snow sandal]

This was before the game's name was even known

[hidden sand]

My bad then

[amber kelp]

thank god they didnt just call it "Battlefield" like it was rumored

[snow sandal]

https://youtu.be/n4fhjx5fH2I

There's the leaked in house trailer

[mortal forge]

🦡

[snow sandal]

Now tell me, does this give hero shooter vibes? Lol.

Remember that this was out before we knew anything. Nonetheless, even with our current knowledge, it does not give hero shooter vibes

[lime gazelle]

Bottom line it will be at least a year before BF2042 is in a playable state, and no I don't mean it won't crash, I'm talking map revamps and everything else that needs done.

[snow sandal]

Imagine doing a soft reboot and this being the product. Thank god.

[snow sandal]

Also, whether it will even be fun to play. I feel it is broken fundamentally

[hidden sand]

BFV had such a great customization system, even if I disagreed with a lot of the outfits and elite system. It gave you so many options and the ability to mix and match them was super nice. It's so odd to me that they want to monetize cosmetics, but with with an objectively worse cosmetic system this time around.

[next onyx]

Some balance changes to the specialists will go a long way

Removing armour from angel will be a massive step in the right direction

And irish

[hidden sand]

I thought in a past earnings call they referred to 2042 a soft reboot, though?

[hidden sand]

Wingsuit and grappling hook would need to go as well imo. Along with making them cosmetic only, with their gadgets being given to specific classes.

[snow sandal]

I'm not familiar with that. They've definitely said they are taking a new direction and creating a narrative with the current specialists etc.

I'd be surprised if that isn't dropped though.

[next onyx]

I don't don't the grappling hook and wing suit should go but instead be louder

[glacial lantern]

I only play the Portal Mode conquest. With classes.... Not specialists.

[next onyx]

Make that metallic clank louder and more audible

[amber kelp]

Not really. Vs could have been much better.
In V every class had the same items which destroyed any sense of class recognition in game. There were 4 item slots but only 2 were ever actually cared about as most legs looked the same and most face paints were just ugly.

[next onyx]

Same with wingsuit, make it more audible when you land

Have a loud grunt

[arctic grove]

The new direction being off a cliff

[next onyx]

Hell make Mackay scream "wooooo!"

[snow sandal]

Such a shame you can't do BF3 classes with BF2042 and BF3 weapons.

[snow sandal]

I highly doubt they'll continue.

[glacial lantern]

Yep. BF3 has a special place in my heart. The only reason why I have not refunded this game after the 140 hours I put into it is because my bro can only play on a PS5 and I have PC. So we enjoy Portal Conquest only. We leave 2042 to it's demise.

[hidden sand]

I'm not talking about the designs, the system itself was good. Things could always be improved, the point is that they went with an inferior system with the intent of selling them. It doesn't make sense, is all.

[snow sandal]

Lol, bad idea.

You seriously think the community want that when they hate the voice lines at the end?

[next onyx]

The community is gonna have a cry regardless.

[shy bronze]

You haven’t refunded it because you can’t

[hidden sand]

Nothing can really improve the wingsuit and grappling hook imo. It just doesn't fit within the gameplay of BF imo.

[shy bronze]

That’s like saying you buy a car and drive it 200,000km and want a full refund for it

[glacial lantern]

Didn't that UK guy pull a country law regarding 2015 consumer returns?

[snow sandal]

This.

[amber kelp]

idk. Is there a way to make the facepaints look good? Can you really be expected to make tons of distinct pants without breaking the art style?
The system is BTFOd by other games like Halo or WW3

[shy bronze]

You can’t refund it, you’ve exceeded x hours

[glacial lantern]

Says you.

[next onyx]

We had grappling hooks in hardline which while functioned differently, I don't see many complaining over that

[shy bronze]

You literally can’t lol

As I said.

That’s like saying you buy a car and drive it 200,000km and want a full refund for it

[wide violet]

cuz hardline was poop?

[snow sandal]

You literally gave the answer in your comment.

It wasn't the same.

[next onyx]

Hardline was actually a good game

[snow sandal]

Agreed

[hidden sand]

You just answered your own question lol.

[jaunty anchor]

Can't believe bf2042 risked this big of a failure. MW tried to do ground war like BF and now they giving them a chance to do it better then them. Map design can't get any worse then 2042.

[somber pebble]

Because no one played hardline for more than an hour lol

[next onyx]

May of not been the same but I don't see the break

Hardline was a fun game through and through

Issue was weapon balance but as a whole it was charming

[snow sandal]

Hot wire was such a great and unique game mode. Really fun to do with friends.

[next onyx]

"Bing bong got yo ass" "Fuck you cop" "think you're a funny Motherfucker huh"

They did experiment with an explosiveless hot wire in the cte

Since the fun on hot wire were the car chases

[somber pebble]

What died faster 2042 or hardline

[hidden sand]

Hardlines grappling hook wasn't the first time that's been in the series, it was in BF2 Special Forces as well and was heavily loved there, too. It wasn't essentially spiderman webs, it was basically a portable ladder. That works a lot better in the gameplay style of BF.

[glacial lantern]

lol

[jaunty anchor]

Nobody stayed long enough to care bro. Yes if you went back in later with full content they released it's an entire different live service game then the beginning of launch. Launch is everything to most people.

[snow sandal]

Summed it perfectly.

Mackays is very agile and spiderman like.

Hardine's was fixed and use in a realistic way

[hidden sand]

Not to mention, it allowed other teammates to use it too. They had it involved with teamplay rather than being another selfish gadget, which is nice.

[arctic grove]

Battlefield 5
Elite: Hannah
Special: tomahawk
Class: anything
Battlefield 2042
Specialist: DOZER
Special: ballistic shield
Class any
Mind you it's a hero shooter since he has an ability......reminds me of blitz in rainbow six siege

[somber pebble]

I would play hardline for a match or two and just go back to bf4. It felt like a minigame

[next onyx]

Assault has always been a pretty for your self class anyways. I see the annoyance but I feel like it's less of an issue than other things

[arctic grove]

[next onyx]

Hardline had the AKM which has a special place in my heart

[snow sandal]

This proves what? Nothing.

You didn't think it was a hero shooter from the leaked in house trailer.

I invite you to watch it again: https://youtu.be/n4fhjx5fH2I

[somber pebble]

[devout flare]

I love the specialists in this battlefield. Not the real problem with the game.

[next onyx]

Just had more interesting weapons which grabs my interest more

[devout flare]

Yes more weapons

[amber kelp]

I think the issue is when assaults become too self reliant like in bfv.

[arctic grove]

From the leaks battlefield 2042 it mentioned hero shooter traits like rainbow six siege 🤑

[somber pebble]

I was hyped when I watched the trailer, had no idea about specialists. Avoided any leaks or gameplay footage, wanted to be fresh. Can you imagine the disappointment when I loaded it up and saw the specialists for the 1st time

[amber kelp]

that only came out after the trailer.
Henderson only said we'd be playing as "soldiers from ruined nations"

[next onyx]

Assault is good for people who can only rely on themselves

That's the whole point of it

Can't rely on teammates so rely on yourself

[arctic grove]

I mean hero shooter are leading first person shooter AAA

[next onyx]

I use support like an assault class because of its weapons ironically lol

[hidden sand]

This was the case up until 2142, where it finally became the medic class (Then switched to resupply with BC2, and back to medic with BF3). BF1 reintroduced a more selfish assault class, but it was still a vehicle killer which was very useful for the team. Along with dynamite for clearing out buildings easier. Same with BFV. It's only a more selfish class if you play it that way, but that goes for any class.

[snow sandal]

Not before this trailer. I'm not even sure specialists were known to exist upon the reveal trailer.

We just saw abilities or what we would've called gadgets.

[amber kelp]

The point is to be a dps character. That doesnt mean going at it alone, it just means youre better at killing than others.
If anything Recon is the lone wolf class

[next onyx]

Bad cos 2 assault was scuffed

I love it

[wide shore]

40mm for everyone

[wide violet]

i thought the abilities were gonna work like bf5 specializations

[snow sandal]

You didn't think the next BF title, which we all thought would be named "BF6" was going to be a hero shooter based off the leaked in house trailer.

End of story.

[next onyx]

Assault rifle, tnt and ammo?

That's a dream worth living

[arctic grove]

Bruh you telling me you never seen giant N on McKay or paik looking at the storm lol

[snow sandal]

So did everyone else, apart from this supernatural human

[somber pebble]

[amber kelp]

thats not the leaked trailer

[next onyx]

To be honest. I'd rather assault be AT.

[arctic grove]

Lol bruh battlefield 6 could be Vietnam....

[amber kelp]

This is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4fhjx5fH2I

[hidden sand]

Completely agreed, Way

[snow sandal]

https://youtu.be/n4fhjx5fH2I

For the third time. Watch this.

[devout flare]

Battlefield 6 - napoleonic wars

[wide violet]

tbf Castle has his moments where hes a troll

[hidden sand]

I fucking love the class balance of BF1 and V

[amber kelp]

I think assault and at should be separate classes. Both roles appeal to people who want to play dps classes but when combined the class is a bit too strong

[wide violet]

classes were perfected in 2142

[snow sandal]

Would be a rather odd troll lol

[next onyx]

Ironically I don't think assault as is is too powerful since medic kinda serves a branch of it

[amber kelp]

in bfv?

[next onyx]

1 and 5 yes.

Though 5's medic is vastly different

For obvious reasons

[snow sandal]

Attrition made the medic class so strong

[arctic grove]

Completely irrelevant from the official

[next onyx]

Health attrition is awful

[mossy badge]

Best class is killstreaks

[next onyx]

And even without it medic would have been very powerful

[snow sandal]

You replied to a comment referring to the leaked trailer...........

[mossy badge]

White phosphorus

[arctic grove]

Trailer.....I said gameplay

[amber kelp]

I think in V the assault is too comfortable in any situation. No combat situation other than a sniper will cause you to move off. Its fun but it does mean that assaults are disconnected from teamplay

[minor holly]

how did this game go from mostly negative back to overwhelming negative on steam poop game

[snow sandal]

@arctic grove

[mossy badge]

That's called progress

[minor holly]

i thought progress was suppose to be good

[snow sandal]

"game looked a lot better when the trailer was too choppy to make out that it was a hero shooter, and when Henderson's leaks implied "no pats" would just be further customization than bfv"

Clearly talking about the leaked trailer

[mossy badge]

It can be negative too

[bold steppe]

apparently bf2042 sales is less than bfv in similar time period

nd bfv devs planned to leave Dice after that game so they kind of half assed it but it was still made much better than crashfield 2042

[arctic grove]

Bruh......to make this clear for you when battlefield 2042 trailer drop from my observation I'm like what is up with N on few of these soldiers then US army or RU my conclusion it's PMC then when few gameplay snippet showed I knew it might be hero shooter and I was right