battlefield-2042

[foggy tundra]

you mean you dont have friends?

[ember cape]

anyone see the change.org petition for refunds , already has over 3100 signatures

[summer rivet]

Hi i'm mckay and i Have a cringe line for you

[plucky plaza]

you mean you have friends?

[prisma anvil]

What's that.... Is that paid dlc?

[foggy tundra]

its the ultra deluxe premium bf2042 dlc

you dont have it?

[fierce gull]

that's gonna do jackshit

[prisma anvil]

Nah m8... I'm a stando rando

[foggy tundra]

lol

[somber pebble]

I got it but it's bugged out, friend patch when

[foggy tundra]

for just 20 bf 2042 nfts, you too can have friends

[silent snow]

Usually the faster shooting caliber I'd say. On bf4 I shredded helis and planes with it.

[prisma anvil]

Boins cryptocurrency when?

[ember cape]

@fierce gull I know but its funny , especially when they are asking people to chip in to promote it 🤣

[next isle]

3000 signatures is incredibly few if we're speaking petitions

[foggy tundra]

i like my bfcoin

very pog

[fierce gull]

indeed

[prisma anvil]

I dont understand what's the point.... So you have an internet page full of signatures.... Who cares?.... Bruhhh

[amber kelp]

Ea wouldnt care about the petition if it got 3 million

[prisma anvil]

What legal implications does a random page with signatures have?...

[fierce gull]

The men in suits at EA are probably laughing their asses off looking at the petition

[prisma anvil]

And I return to my point once again.... People are dumb

[plucky plaza]

You paid for a game, you got the game, law is law

[summer rivet]

I paid for a game not for a bugged prototype

[amber kelp]

Ive heard that a lot of refunds are being given out anyway

[next isle]

And you have a right to refund it if you're within the specified limits

[plucky plaza]

Steam is being more lenient ive heard on 2042 as well

[prisma anvil]

You got to test out that bugged prototype for free(beta)..... Why'd ya still buy?

[arctic grove]

steam and xbox will eventually give up and grant you a refund

you just have to repeatedly do it and word your request properly

[prisma anvil]

Unlikely, but doesnt hurt to hope I guess

[amber kelp]

"ItS jUsT a BeTa"
"mY mOnEy mY cHoIcE"

[arctic grove]

at some point a human will actually talk to you and (hopefully) give you a refund

[arctic grove]

"months old build" LMAO

[amber kelp]

if that fails you can go to their house

[summer rivet]

I didn't buy the game personally, I just say the line of people who buy it lmao

[fierce gull]

that wasn't for the beta

[plucky plaza]

Its mostly a matter of whether youre qualified or not, you can have more hrs in the game than steams policy and still get refunds sometimes, but if you have too much u cant get a refund

[prisma anvil]

I can't believe anyone fell for that old build jargon

[plucky plaza]

Steam Refunds are checked case by case im pretty sure

[arctic grove]

oh boy it was stop being in denial

[somber pebble]

"Trust us fam"

[fierce gull]

I specifically remember it was for the technical playtest

[amber kelp]

its called coping. People who said it just wanted a way to dismiss criticism and stay excited.
fools

[arctic grove]

dude legit no one believed me when i said the open beta was literally just a demo for the final game

[amber kelp]

It was said both times

[summer rivet]

I personally still playing bf1, and i hear only horrors about bf2042 so

[scenic tartan]

The beta was a lot different than the final for me

[plucky plaza]

It is, they changed quite a few things

[prisma anvil]

Lim, it was for the beta too

[arctic grove]

https://screenrant.com/battlefield-2042-beta-build-old/amp/
eat your words

[prisma anvil]

It was freeman who said it I think

[fierce gull]

damn so they said it for both lmao

[silent snow]

They said "months old build" because the beta was terrible to calm people down

[arctic grove]

yep

[fierce gull]

kinda dumb

[arctic grove]

it was such a big lie

it was just damage control because the beta was so ass

[amber kelp]

People seem to not understand what "beta" actually means
Beta is any point after the alpha, before the game is finished (except for a small "silver" period before gold).
So "its just a beta" means nothing without the context of when the beta is shown off. The closer it is to launch, the closer the beta is to the final product

[silent snow]

It was to keep those pre-orders in place and everyone else to buy

[arctic grove]

also btw nowadays in the gaming industry the open beta is nothing but a demo of the final game

this whole "but its just a beta! they will fix everything at launch!" is fucking bullshit and you know it

[prisma anvil]

What changed from beta to launch, running speed, the hud(still crap, but Defo an improvement from the beta), grenade indicators.... What else?..

[arctic grove]

added a few more specialists wow

[amber kelp]

its both.
It is a beta build of the game, though generally one closer to completion. And its only used as a demo rather than a test. Because, as I said, "beta" just means before launch

[silent snow]

I honestly felt nothing different from beta to release. The 2nd patch was the best one, but we're a downgrade after.

[arctic grove]

the open beta build is already finalized and not much if anything at all will change compared to the final release

[silent snow]

Gun play felt the best after the 2nd patch

[prisma anvil]

Ah, one thing , PS5 beta had horrendous screen flickering, they fixed that in the launch version

[arctic grove]

this whole "beta is 3 month old build" bs was just copium being given away for free to the community

[amber kelp]

So you can have games like team fortress 2, where the beta is radically different to launch, and you can have Halo Infinite, where the beta was nearly identical to launch.

[silent snow]

I'm still shocked the load out glitch is still a thing in Feburary.

[wise zodiac]

Arinbjorn! Just got here.

[arctic grove]

team fortress 2 was in a whole another era

nowadays the beta is just marketing

[amber kelp]

that doesnt matter to my point.
Im just saying people dont understand what a beta actually is. It doesnt denote any stage of development other than "after alpha and before launch"

[arctic grove]

and its pretty smart actually if its a good game

[prisma anvil]

Ahhhh... Good, the misty foggy island right?... From what I remember, one of the jarls gives you a quest to help them over there I think...

[wise zodiac]

A small town. Not an island. There's a Witcher contract there though.

[arctic grove]

if your game has an open beta and its really bad, then no one will buy your game

[wise zodiac]

A lighthouse.

[arctic grove]

unless the final release is MUCH better

[prisma anvil]

Yep

The lighthouse one...

Jorund I think is the guys name

[wise zodiac]

Yep

Jorund is a nice guy.

[plucky plaza]

It depends on several factors

[prisma anvil]

Also, why the feck can I remember random witcher characters better than my college study materials..

Wtf brain

Either way, let's just agree..... Beta very close to launch and beta very poor?.... Be very skeptical about the launch, cancel preorders and wait for launch

[plucky plaza]

Yes, although you have to be smart about the pre-order in the first place

[arctic grove]

in todays gaming industry the open beta is like a demo so its very reasonable to assume the launch will be just as bad

[amber kelp]

yep

[arctic grove]

maybe a bit better

[prisma anvil]

Gods these are dark times

[amber kelp]

Yeah, generally closed betas are more likely to change over time.

[fierce gull]

why am I getting into games where jet players are smart

[prisma anvil]

They're learning.... That or only the very good ones are the ones left

[silent snow]

This is the only game ive ever pre-ordered and was disappointed with it.

[prisma anvil]

Never again.... Got it?

[heady condor]

Ah same man.. I feel you

[silent snow]

Will make me second guess from now on

[mental cave]

buying the most expensive pre order edition of skate 4 who's with me? we need to make sure EA doesn't drop skate again

[prisma anvil]

[plucky plaza]

Everyone at some point learns that lesson, whether its from the rational way or the hard way, but now at least im grateful that you learned that lesson, now keep that lesson for the rest of ur life

[heady condor]

15 years of gaming and it has to be this one pre-order

[amber kelp]

I dont understand why people pre order
those little trinkets are really not worth it, and most pre order players dont even use them

[mental cave]

its like a reward

[silent snow]

I wanted to pre order dying light 2 but I didn't just because of 2042 and I have so many single player games to start/finish

I'll just get it later and cheaper

[amber kelp]

yeah. A pointless reward for gambling $60

[heady condor]

You see the trailer and you think this must be it. You wanna have it, you wanna support it, u wanna get it faster and get as much additional stuff as u can. At least that's what made me do it for the first time with this disaster of a game.

[silent snow]

Very true

[heady condor]

Same as well. I will wait weeks for all youtubers and streamers to play the hell out of it and give their verficts.

[prisma anvil]

Like the only worthwhile preorder bonus people got was the 7 day early access to the game..... and 2-3 days of that was completely fecked for a lot

[amber kelp]

you dont even get it faster without certain editions.
People buy into the hype and theyre too impatient to spend their $60 at launch day

[amber kelp]

all 7 days were completely fecked.
Its still completely fecked

[arctic grove]

Although you miss out on the feeling of playing on game launch if you wait some months or weeks you could snag it at a discount and you’ll be aware of wether or not the purchase is worth your money to begin with

[silent snow]

One guy from my platoon says DL2 isn't running very well on ps4 but ps5 is fine

[arctic grove]

the way the 2042 beta got sugarcoated by all these youtubers was just absolutely disgusting

[heady condor]

I mean yeah that's true, pre-ordering used to be actually more rewarding lol

[arctic grove]

its as if no one of them has ever played a proper bf before lmfao

[amber kelp]

Plus with many games launch is the worst time to play them

[silent snow]

Miss those ps1 and ps2 days where we just popped a disk in and everything work fine

[arctic grove]

Fuck battlefield all my homies prefer 3 EA produced Star Wars titles

[prisma anvil]

You know what I mean.... First 2-3 days, persistence, dozer being disabled, prox being disabled, lag, crashes... All of it .. such a shitshow those first 2-3 days

[arctic grove]

the days where the games you bought were actually finished and polished

[amber kelp]

they knew full well what was happening but their yt channels are dependent on hyped users and EA's perks

[arctic grove]

and CHEAPER than todays games too

no cap though, if you bought battlefield 2042 and complained about it being unpolished that’s on you

[silent snow]

Metal gear

[mental cave]

shit was still broken back then we just didn't care because there was no such things as patch updates to fix it 💀

[heady condor]

That's what I was thinking about. Like they actually released hundreds of games that didn't have a SINGLE bug, glitch or issue. At least nothing that would interfere with the gameplay lmao.

[silent snow]

Either very small or we didn't know what to spot

[arctic grove]

all dice said was some "its 3 month old build" bullshit and didnt even bother to fix their game properly

[silent snow]

Only thing I ever had to worry about was cheaters on SOCOM.

[heady condor]

I played countless titles on PS1 and 2 and literally can't recall having any issue to pass levels or finish the games. Something u can't on a game today.

[coral oasis]

👀

[mental cave]

they forgot to mention that the entire game was an 18 month build 😂, so rushed

[prisma anvil]

Agreed, as much as game companies had to release more polished games cuz it wasn't easy to patch em later.... So were we adjusted to tolerating something broken if it was good....

[arctic grove]

and to add insult to injury: the frostbite version isnt even the most up to date

[heady condor]

Honestly I'm happy to come here every other week and witness that people will not easily forget this scam.

[arctic grove]

anyone that knew anything about game development knew that 100+ major bugs don’t get fixed in 5 months. I knew it was gonna drop buggy. The beta killed all my hope for the game

[floral aspen]

BF2042 is like an adult man who still misses the toilet when he pees.....wtf

[plucky plaza]

interesting comparison

[prisma anvil]

[amber kelp]

honestly it may have been a 3 month build, or at least forked from a 3 month build
"3 months old" doesnt mean its all gonna be fixed by then, especially given the games totally fucked development.

[arctic grove]

adult man who somehow pisses himself while pissing on the toilet

[mental cave]

I can clearly remember launch glitches being in almost every game, specific trigger crashes and more tho. we just fr didnt care cus it was impossible to fix at the time lol

[prisma anvil]

Pretty sure a lot of adult males miss the ceramic in the morning m8

[floral aspen]

This too

[arctic grove]

You say that but I’m pretty sure the game did decent revenue wise, which just tells ea they can pop out more bs

[prisma anvil]

Did not meet expectations

[amber kelp]

Do not associate me with 2042

[floral aspen]

I know, I'm one of them, my mother-in-law got upset at me 😳

[raw root]

If you watch Tom Henderson timeline video of 2042 production, EA was very aware of the state 2042 was in. Developers were commenting left and right to others cohorts in the industry. They knew they were not going to deliver a solid product but full steam ahead said executives. Need to make that 💰. Whoops, see what happens when you do that!

[prisma anvil]

Still a boatload.... But still

[plucky plaza]

Expectations are too brutal

[floral aspen]

Lol

[silent snow]

I crack up still seeing people saying the game is "amazing" or "no problems"

[arctic grove]

did you see what the dice devs told people on reddit? they legit said "oh yeah the final build we have internally is SOOOOO much better than this 3 month old beta build."

[prisma anvil]

Oddly enough, ironically, the game didn't meet our expectations.... And neither did it meet EA's

[arctic grove]

im not even shitting you

[plucky plaza]

Yeah lol

[heady condor]

Yea they did good simply because people were still hanging on to their memories. I'm prettty fkn sure there is no room for salvation on next title. It must be absolutely flawless for people to go near it lol

[arctic grove]

ea and dice instrumentalized the community's nostalgia and ran away with their money

[heady condor]

They really messed this up and continue refusing to fix it in a special way that no one can ever forget lol

[arctic grove]

absolutely disgraceful

[raw root]

I bet the bf franchise is dead. I don’t know if they will want to pump that much money into a product that failed so badly 2 times

[plucky plaza]

They didnt run away with as much money as they expected, which im guessing in ur context its a good thing

[arctic grove]

and also the game makes up like less than 10% of their total revenue

[fallow osprey]

atleast we can still buy lootboxes in fifa

[heady condor]

Nah they can still come back if they just make a good title. \

[prisma anvil]

Good to see people learning of EA's ways now..... All the command and conquer, moh guys have got a seat all warmed up for us lads

[arctic grove]

that alone is a HUGE red flag that the franchise is gonna hit the chopping block soon

[fierce gull]

should have learned years ago lol

[arctic grove]

yeah but I swear we say this for every controversial EA game. “This will be the last one all of us buy” and then everyone buys them next one

[raw root]

Embark needs to put out a game

[silent snow]

They made a lot of money on release which investors like, but they also like to KEEP making money.

[prisma anvil]

True

[arctic grove]

the investors dont seem to give a shit about battlefield either

[fierce gull]

but it's still going to happen no matter what's happening with 2042

[prisma anvil]

Trying to bud

[arctic grove]

embark is releasing arc raiders this year

[prisma anvil]

Its hard... But we'll get there eventually

[fierce gull]

people are still gonna preorder the next battlefield and it's gonna turn out shit

[arctic grove]

At this point fuck battlefield, I’m just hyped for the Star Wars games

[high badge]

We should all Boykott ea games for this trash game I paid 90€ for nothinf

[arctic grove]

nope, the next battlefield wont sell

[heady condor]

I never really keep up with what happens within the communities but from personal experience I have never seen my friends disappointed in any title more than this, and obviously myself have never seen such a disaster and scam. So I'd say this one's different. Maybe not for EA, but the BF franchise has no more second chance.

[arctic grove]

i will tell you that right now, the next battlefield will not sell

[silent snow]

That ww3 game looks interesting but I'm just a console scrub. Will it be coming to ps5?

[prisma anvil]

Let's hope it's a lot less than the number of 2042 preorders,

[fierce gull]

[arctic grove]

dude but I don’t get it, why are people whining about buying the game. It’s one thing to complain about the game itself, but not complain about buying it. You should’ve known what you were paying for before you bought it

[prisma anvil]

That's the only realistic thing we can hope for

[arctic grove]

after seeing the sheer incompetence dice has been displaying since october of last year, i have lost all hope in the franchise

[tawdry bobcat]

Is it just me or do the Specialists seem like narcissistic Psychopaths?

[silent snow]

Those most optimistic player in my battlefield platoon has even given up. Which was very surprising to me

[arctic grove]

i have no faith in that dev team to accomplish anything

[fierce gull]

no pats are psychopaths

[arctic grove]

they had to delay the scoreboard ffs

if that doesnt scream incompetence then idk what does

[fierce gull]

they are blood thirsty soldiers

[tawdry bobcat]

I lost faith after the TTK change in Battlefield 5

[arctic grove]

at least they had the balls to revert that

and actually make the game good in 2020 before the game got shafted for THIS SHIT

[tawdry bobcat]

Dice has too much pride to admit when they're wrong nowadays

[silent snow]

One thing I don't get with the No-Pats. They are all from different backgrounds, but if you're on the Russian team they speak with a Russia accent lol

[arctic grove]

im pretty sure some dev at dice said in this channel right here that the new scoreboard is better than the traditional one LMAO

[silent snow]

Plus many other things

[fierce gull]

the new scoreboard has more information than the other ones in the past titles

[prisma anvil]

Doesn't make the change any better in the first place... Pacific was good, like peak bfV, people were actually wildin on those maps, but they had to fuck it up

[fierce gull]

the pacific content was the one that made me play bfv more but then I got bored and switched to cod

[tawdry bobcat]

if dice wanted to make a clone wars game they could have just made Battlefront 3 smh. I'm so sick of seeing Sundance flying everywhere

[arctic grove]

the moment bfv was getting really good ea had to step in and take a shit on the game for the sake of 2042

"biggest bf dev team ever" my ass

a lot of people speculating battlefront 3 from red pawn but I don’t think it’s gonna happen

FUCK

[tawdry bobcat]

imagine if they added the winter war in bf5 with skis

[fierce gull]

if battlefront 3 was made people would probably hate the launch as well lol

[prisma anvil]

"The core guys are finally enjoying... Quick, ruin their experience to bring in new folk.... Then revert it back, satisfy the old guys all while getting some new guys in.."- the 1000iq guy who caused the pacific ttk change

[fierce gull]

what would battlefront 3 even be?

[tawdry bobcat]

bf5 was marketed as the untold stories of WWII but instead we didn't get untold stories we just got British vs Germany smh

[prisma anvil]

Now that's star wars.... I know nothing jack diddly squat about star wars

[arctic grove]

what the fuck was the point of the ttk changes anyways

[silent snow]

I still can't believe we never got the Eastern front and stalingrad for this disappointment.

[lament sail]

Most Op character?

[fierce gull]

Battlefront 2 had clones, rebels and the first order and what would be in 3? mandalorians?

[arctic grove]

andrew wilson

[silent snow]

It feels wrong to play a ww2 without a single Russian character, weapon, map

[prisma anvil]

Get new inexpereicned players in..... Slower ttk means they stay alive longer.... Better retention for new folk... That's why you saw ttk changes at the times when new people came in, christmas, then pacific

[fierce gull]

Angel

[lament sail]

My favorite is Dover and Casper

[fierce gull]

Dozer and casper are the best

[prisma anvil]

We all know Boris is the messiah

[lament sail]

I like Casper because of the drone thing

And Dozer bc of the shield

[foggy tundra]

maria is the best

[prisma anvil]

200 kills and assists- the Casper main

Correction... 0 kills 200 assists

[lament sail]

Yep

[foggy tundra]

let me guess

drones

[tawdry bobcat]

Macky is ugly as fuck to be honest.

[lament sail]

The starting sniper sucks ass

[foggy tundra]

not even one fucking sniper kill

[prisma anvil]

[foggy tundra]

[fierce gull]

that's why we getting his new skin to hide his face

[foggy tundra]

macringe

[haughty dagger]

MacKay looks exactly like the engineer from BF3/4

[foggy tundra]

fuck its taxes

[slow terrace]

[tawdry bobcat]

he's so skinny to i would think somebody using a grapple hook would have more upper-body muscle mass right?

[prisma anvil]

Get that chuckle fuck rusty crusty scrunched up face having gremlin Outta mah saloon

[foggy tundra]

fite me

https://tenor.com/view/fight-me-come-barney-dinosaur-punch-gif-16091889

[haughty dagger]

I don’t think you understand how muscles work lol

[prisma anvil]

🥖 bonk

[lament sail]

The starting sniper sucks

[foggy tundra]

muscles are uh

smaller

than fat

thus someone 180 pounds mostly muscles

is gonna look waay fucking skinnier than a 180 mostly fat person

[haughty dagger]

Size of muscle =/= strength

[prisma anvil]

How tall even is macaky?

[foggy tundra]

hes like 5'10-6ft i think?

thats avg height for most NA peeps

[prisma anvil]

So yeah he'd probably be a what... 70-80kilo guy?... By his physique I'm guessing

[haughty dagger]

I mean just look at ninja warrior. Most of those people can do way more than body builders

Prolly a bit more than 80 but yeah

[foggy tundra]

also body builders are less agile than youd think

so mackays physique actually makes sense

[prisma anvil]

I mean... It's cuz of what you train the body to do

[foggy tundra]

muscle size can interfere with body movement

[prisma anvil]

Builders don't care about sustained power...

[foggy tundra]

which is why they cant always cross their arms

[prisma anvil]

Whereas military, atheletes, generally, care about sustained power,

[foggy tundra]

or it looks fucking ridiculous when they do

[prisma anvil]

Stick a small piece of paper to their central upper back... Watch them suffer to get it off

[foggy tundra]

thats horrid

[prisma anvil]

[fierce gull]

wtf I never realized Caspian border has good looking ass rocks

[foggy tundra]

oh shit

caspian rocks now

we need pics limited

[prisma anvil]

If only you could post those rocks lim

[foggy tundra]

shame

[tawdry bobcat]

bodybuilders only really care about Symmetry and being Lean.

[prisma anvil]

Smh

[haughty dagger]

MacKays bio says he lived off the Grid after the military so yeah.

[fierce gull]

hmmm

[foggy tundra]

the only person whose background is actually the least cringey, is fucking falcks background, shes a badass

[haughty dagger]

“Mackay is described as an outdoorsman, nomad, and soldier. Mackay is an ass-kicker with a conscience. As a lone wolf, he will follow his gut before he waits for orders”

Lmao what an ass-kicker

[foggy tundra]

yea marias background is the least cringe and makes the most sense

[arctic grove]

no way they actually used the word ass-kicker

[fierce gull]

I will post 2042 rocks on my twitter account

it's now gonna be about rocks and everyone will notice

[haughty dagger]

This info is not pulled from the website so not sure if they did or not. It’s from battlefield wiki

[foggy tundra]

wow they managed to make EA look less cringe

[haughty dagger]

The only thing that’s cringe about the specialists is literally their pre round and post round sound clips.

[foggy tundra]

nah their backgrounds are bad

[fierce gull]

time to get a checkmark

[haughty dagger]

Some are bad but not cringe

[foggy tundra]

look at sundances background, tie it in with 2042s story and tell me thats not cringe

[prisma anvil]

Depends... There's types of builders, competitively speaking, you have size, proportions and shape..(all of them are lean anyway)... Generally speaking most people care the least about shape, they're more about propotions, size and leanness... Imo

[foggy tundra]

if theres a world war going on

not many people are gonna care about a criminal background

let alone what was going on before 2042 happened

[high badge]

Its just trash

[foggy tundra]

hell the US military allowed former convicts to enlist during middle east wars irl

makes 0 sense

[haughty dagger]

“Sundance definitely likes to live on the edge. They're a skilled and fearless adversary that's had two very different lives – one as a model soldier in the Armée de Terre, and an earlier and much darker existence as a trusted associate in a major Parisian crime syndicate. The latter, sadly, came back to haunt them and ended their military career pre-maturely.”

[foggy tundra]

tell me thats not cringe

that edge is sharper than obsidian

[prisma anvil]

It's like a shit attempt at a shit r6 bio

[foggy tundra]

like they wouldve made an exception

but nope, need edge in this game

[fierce gull]

crap I deleted my old rock pics from my files

[foggy tundra]

f

[fierce gull]

time to make new ones

[haughty dagger]

Well the whole reason these people are No-Pats is because they don’t like their country right? I would just say it’s bad and not cringe.

[prisma anvil]

Bring out the small violin twiggsy

[foggy tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-smallest-violin-gif-4999701

[foggy tundra]

its cringe

they couldve made it similar to caspers story

and wouldve been far less edgy

caspers story is the 2nd most reasonable after marias background

[prisma anvil]

That's the thing, we dont know why no-pats exist, they could be due to many reasons, the war ruining their countries, natural calamities, them just being opportunistic mercs

[foggy tundra]

marias a nopat because shes trying to find her son

casper got fucked by his own people

mackay is just... edgy

sundance's background feels forced

dozers background is somewhat reasonable

angels background is vague as hell

[prisma anvil]

Boris?

[summer rivet]

The french woman specialist is cringe af

[foggy tundra]

where is his background?

[prisma anvil]

[foggy tundra]

oh god

his is as bad as sundances

[prisma anvil]

Let's see it then

[foggy tundra]

Born in Omsk, Russia, Boris rose from a hard life of physical labour and military disappointment to become a wealthy, global arms dealer. He later became a No-Pat when he had to go on the run because of a business deal gone bad. This caused him to develop the belief that the world is unfair so you must look out for yourself.

With his background as an arms dealer, Boris joined the Exodus Task Force as its weapons expert and is very experienced when it comes to defensive tactics. Despite this his true attachment to the team is suspect but he is trusted to get the job done, nevertheless, albeit with maximum collateral damage. He seeks to acquire power and control in a chaotic world. While his leadership skills may be a bit aggressive to some, there is no denying his skills in the field.

Boris is described as brash, cocky, self-motivated, and self-fulfilling. He is demanding and pushy because he knows that he is always right.[1]

from the wiki

if this is even true

the 2042 site doesnt have this

[foggy tundra]

and they do use the word asskicker for mackay in the official site

[prisma anvil]

What in the goddamn?

[foggy tundra]

cringe

[haughty dagger]

Wait how is MacKay edgy?

[foggy tundra]

have you not read his voicelines and his bio?

WEBSTER MACKAY

Outdoorsman. Nomad. Soldier. Mackay is an ass-kicker with a conscience. Following his father's footsteps, Mackay joined the Canadian military in his teens. At the height of his military career, he was a member of Joint Task Force 2 as a part of a counter-terrorism unit.

After retiring from the military, he followed his dreams of exploring and living off the grid. Now, this Assault soldier fights for the Non-Patriated to make right a regret from his military days.

[haughty dagger]

Yes I read his bio. How are any of those considered edgy…

[foggy tundra]

from the official site

the first line

[haughty dagger]

Yes I can read.

[foggy tundra]

cringe

[haughty dagger]

That’s not edgy lol.

[foggy tundra]

shouldve been worded better

ive been using cringe and edgy so much ive mixed them up

[prisma anvil]

The Boris one just feels weird to me..

[foggy tundra]

the official site doesnt give him a background, its slightly more vague than Angels

[prisma anvil]

So you're telling me, it was the arms deal gone sour and not the growing up as a poor kid in Russia that made him realise that the world isn't fair?

[foggy tundra]

i wouldve thought growing up in general in a horrid environment would do that

[prisma anvil]

I realised that when I was like 13

[foggy tundra]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

all the backgrounds feel rushed af tbh

[prisma anvil]

That's it...

[foggy tundra]

like all the edge and cringe, comes from them feeling rushed, guys i solved the issue

[prisma anvil]

How much you wanna bet we get a nokk like specialist in 2042 with half their bio being 'redacted'

[fierce gull]

that will be weird but interesting

[foggy tundra]

i lost braincells reading her bio

[foggy tundra]

i need my braincell refund sir

[prisma anvil]

sorry m8... All Outta braincells

[dusky blade]

That’s very cringe

[foggy tundra]

motherfucker

[prisma anvil]

[foggy tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-meme-red-reeeee-rage-gif-8375244

[prisma anvil]

Hey I don't tell you read it.. you chose that yourself

[fierce gull]

why tf do you get a hard drive scanner if you take out every gadget in the game for portal

[prisma anvil]

[white geyser]

[foggy tundra]

[opal cedar]

wtf battlefield became even more buggier lmao

[fierce gull]

battlefield be like

[opal cedar]

my screen becomes blue and trips etc

what are those devs doing in their free time 😭 😭

[wide violet]

insert recent tom henderson vid here lol

[fierce gull]

food

[gusty minnow]

Playing COD

[opal cedar]

Ea paying devs for free bro

[fierce gull]

ew no one gonna play cod

[opal cedar]

i barely see quality in battlefield

the game died so did the community nothing new tbh

[arctic grove]

[fierce gull]

Im trying to make only tanks server for portal but kinda difficult
really hope the tools they are gonna add in the march update help me out

[raven swift]

hey guys i got the deluxe version of the game and i dont have the steadfast bundle ingame for some reason does anyone know anything about it?

or is it yet to come out?

[fierce gull]

that comes out when the next update arrives which is in early march

[raven swift]

ah ok

thanks anyways

[high badge]

And in March you won't find any players to play with 🤣

[naive quiver]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/sknsrv/i_too_would_like_my_money_back/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[high badge]

Player base is further sinking you can see via steam charts for example

[fierce gull]

jesus do people think change org is gonna do anything lmao

[naive quiver]

Well no but nice to try 🤣🤣

[wide shore]

We need a “steam charts” jar. Kinda like a swear jar, but instead somebody puts a dollar in every time they bring up steam charts.

[barren ore]

[wide shore]

Then, we can donate that money to charity.

Think of how much money we’d raise.

[raven swift]

last time i checked battlefield 4 was a worse release and it got fixed and became the seccond best battlefield

[naive quiver]

If you buy a lesson for 99$, it's worth it

No need to refund

[copper fulcrum]

BF4 was straight up unplayable for most people for 6 straight months

[raven swift]

the best battlefield would have to be either 1942 or vietnam

[copper fulcrum]

and I partially agree, 1942 was great

[naive quiver]

You've been playing for so many hours and still thinking about how to get your money back, I really don't understand what these people think

[copper fulcrum]

but I have to say BF2 was better in my opinion

[mental cave]

and it wasn't just PC it was broken on console too which is a whole different level of fucked up. atleast 2042 actually works on console

[copper fulcrum]

I too like to eat a full course meal at a restaurant, and then ask for a refund after coming out of the bathroom.

[naive quiver]

Lmao 🤣 rip life

[raven swift]

hahahaha thats exactly it

[barren ore]

I enjoyed previous versions, but I enjoyed BF4 the most. Probably because of the people I played with and we played for hours every day for quite some time.

[wide shore]

When it wants to. I play on Series X and sometimes the framerate drops to 0. Damn near freezes the game sometimes.

[raven swift]

im not refunding the game because unlike alot of snow flakes i actually enjoy killing bots in private sessions

[copper fulcrum]

And no one is going to hate you for it

Actually scratch that, you enjoy the game, everyone hates you.

That is a joke, I hope that's clear.

[raven swift]

yea was gonna say im pretty sure everyone will think im pure evil worse then hittler just because i enjoy some parts of the game

[barren ore]

I enjoy 2042. It could be better, but it is still enjoyable, for me.

[copper fulcrum]

A very enjoyable game all around

[fiery scroll]

I like some parts of the game. I actually enjoy Hazard Zone when I'm playing with friends. It's not great but it has its moments

[graceful hatch]

Tbh i haven’t seen anyone get too much shit for liking the game, it’s more when people go through all these mental hoops and pull out really illogical, abstract defences and excuses for it that they get shat on

[mental cave]

oof, gotta also make sure you're cleaning your vents regularly and not running too hot in not too well ventilated spaces, atleast with the ps5 it requires PC level maintenance the ps4 had the same problems, if you didnt clean your vents your ps4 would turn into a jet

[copper fulcrum]

Most of the time I see conversations or positive reviews saying "This game is a blast" or something, they get made fun of and shit.

[fierce gull]

i notice that on twitter lol

[raven swift]

i dont mind it and yea its got a few issues but i think the fun factor out does the bugs n shit

[graceful hatch]

I’m of the opinion that u can like a bad game and dislike a good game. But liking it doesn’t inherently make it good and vice versa.

[barren ore]

My PC also gets a bit hotter playing 2042, but I still get 150+ fps, so I'm ok.

[wide shore]

Series X air flow is very good. I cleaned the vents just a few days ago. It still happens. It’s definitely a game problem.

[fierce gull]

I saw a tweet where some dude said he liked the game and that's all and everyone was calling him special

[regal barn]

the game is shitte LOL

[copper fulcrum]

Like that ^

[raven swift]

yea

[barren ore]

[fierce gull]

who is ready for the opposite next year

[copper fulcrum]

Probably one of the best timed messages tbh

[regal barn]

if it had offline content it wouldent be so bad, but for all online..no

[graceful hatch]

Not really, he just said the game was shit. He never shat on anyone for saying it was good. Bit of a stretch there mate

[raven swift]

i play the co-op all out war thing

[mental cave]

thats weird never heard of that one before, I've been experiencing bugs now that I've been going into portal more often though. I think thats where the game is most broken lol

[graceful hatch]

If u can say the game is good, he can say the game is shit. There was no personal attack involved, little sensitive there.

[arctic grove]

I have a hard time leading my shots in 2042 on console than other bf titles, the aim assist still just feels off.

[barren ore]

You seem very sensitive, tbh.

[raven swift]

what the fuck even is this chat tho and why am i even still here

[graceful hatch]

Show me one time I’ve been “sensitive”. I’ll wait.

[regal barn]

i leave weekly travis LOL

[wide shore]

Because it is still off. It’s better than it was at launch, but it’s still awful.

[fierce gull]

aim assist is shit right now

[copper fulcrum]

I forget a lot of console players use aim assist

I'm on Xbox and I haven't used it in most of my games... unless I am forced to like Halo

[regal barn]

poetic whisper is a mall btw all

man*

[wide shore]

I’m a whole ass mall?

[regal barn]

LOL

[wide shore]

I’ve never claimed to be a woman. So you’re not exactly breaking any ground.

[regal barn]

thats to be debated

[mental cave]

I dont think anybody cared

[arctic grove]

I only play the game whenever there’s a new update to see how the game is, the aim assist is so bad I’ll play for like an hour then just get frustrated.

[copper fulcrum]

I don't really care what gender/sex anyone is here.

[graceful hatch]

Not in this chat it’s not, nothing to do with 2042 😂

[raven swift]

[copper fulcrum]

We're all people here talking about a game

[mental cave]

nah im a strawberry homie, because its my profile picture

[wide shore]

It’s literally not. I’ve never claimed to be a woman.

[copper fulcrum]

Oh shit, damn

[wide shore]

If you have proof to the contrary, by all means.

[copper fulcrum]

So are a lot of people anime women?

Alright, bye.

[raven swift]

< this chat rn

[mental cave]

[arctic grove]

Hey guys, how's it going?

[barren ore]

Use the search box, its full of examples.

[graceful hatch]

1/10 bait. U could do better if u applied urself, see me after class please.

[barren ore]

^^ Perfect example

[grand saddle]

Why tease with a load screen and then make me wait for other players?

[graceful hatch]

What’s one more middle finger to the community between friends hahaha

[wide shore]

Peek-a-boo

[barren ore]

Nice!

[grand saddle]

LOL 👌🏽

[arctic grove]

Do we have a date when 2042 is going f2p? I don't want to buy it, as I see the reviews.

[barren ore]

How silly

[arctic grove]

cock and ball torture

[barren ore]

Also, how silly

[arctic grove]

i hate my life dude

[barren ore]

Then go get help

[arctic grove]

no me chad

me need no help

[barren ore]

weak game though

[wide shore]

It’s not.

[arctic grove]

anyone wanna join my mc world?

[arctic grove]

Do you work for Dice/EA?

[wide shore]

No.

[arctic grove]

Okay, you so you have no idea. Thank you.

[teal loom]

Not going free to play.

[mental cave]

nobody said it was going free to play

[wide shore]

And yet, people know it’s going F2P based off “trust me bro” sources?

[copper fulcrum]

My dad who works at Nissan says 2042 will be going Free to Play.

[rich agate]

i just heard about BF3 RM and i hope it's really as good as its looking to be. Getting 2042 has really damaged my perception of good looking games before they are about to release lol

[barren ore]

Ah ok, confirmed then.

[wide shore]

There’s nothing. Absolutely nothing indicating it’s going F2P. No confirmation. Not even dice alluding to the possibility. So it’s more safe for me to say it’s not going free to play, than it is for anybody to say it is.

[arctic grove]

I will screen shot this and come back when it goes F2P 🙂

[rich agate]

they're just going to anthem it

[teal loom]

Yes please come back then, not sooner.

[mossy badge]

I hope it gets free to play too

[wide shore]

Please also screenshot when DICE themselves officially announce it. Because otherwise you’re just believing rumors.

[teal loom]

Simple replying to himself on an alt account ^^ lol

[arctic grove]

All you new people to the BF franchise are something else.

[wide shore]

LOL

[rich agate]

it's definetly a possibility to go F2P, or another one I heard was that portal would go F2P and AOW and HZ would be normal price but AOW and HZ aren't worth anything more than $5

[wide shore]

“New people.”

[rich agate]

as one dude once said: "I'd rather buy winRAR than 2042"

[teal loom]

What does that even mean?

[mossy badge]

HZ is garbage

[wide shore]

Apparently not believing free to play rumors means you’re new to BF. I’m not really seeing the correlation. But maybe I’m blind.

[rich agate]

I never even played a game of it. never liked BR style gamemodes, Warzone never stuck to me. AOW is shit, so all was left was portal. I joined a noshar canals CQL match and I jumped in a vehicle and i couldnt ADS. closed it out and hopped on bf4 then a couple weeks later bought bf3

[teal loom]

Ah ok, lol

[mossy badge]

Sooo it means even if it gets f2p nobody will play it

[rich agate]

yea,... this game isn't worth the storage it takes up on your PC /Console

let alone any money

[mossy badge]

Sad man

[desert elbow]

Tons will, look at how many people hate on warzone yet still play it

[rich agate]

it could have been so awesome if we had good devs, not money hungry EA, and some love in the game

[desert elbow]

EA aren’t the devs

[rich agate]

i know that

[mossy badge]

U can think tons will play it let me think not even 1 player will play it

[wide shore]

I played maybe 2-3 games of warzone. Didn’t like it. Uninstalled it. Never played it again. Never talk about it.

[rich agate]

dice are the devs but with direction from EA its negative

[rich agate]

dont like BR so i played some Plunder which was fun but I am complete shit so I stopped playing

[mossy badge]

Plunder is actually fun ngl

[wide shore]

I’m not a big BR guy either. I liked firestorm, but that’s probably because I like BFV.

[rich agate]

it was really fun but when warzone came out in march 2020, i purchased Battlefield 4 in january 2020 so there was a choice there

I got gifted bf4 in 2013 when I was young, so I purchased it on my pc in 2020 and it was the best decision i ever made

[wide shore]

I think I’d rather play Warzone than play BF4.

[mossy badge]

I also played 4 didn't liked it sooooooooo refunded it

[rich agate]

not trying to be an asshole, how do you guys not like bf4?

[wide shore]

Bad maps, mostly.

[rich agate]

i really enjoy the maps on there but i guess thats just me lol

[mossy badge]

I bought it last year gunplay is trash feels old af

[pine roost]

I admit I like apex, but only because of its slight similarities to titanfall, but I want battlefield to stay its own thing. Apex wasn’t part of a franchise, it’s in a universe sure but it wasn’t called ‘titanfall 3’

[rich agate]

idk i have this ewird nostalgia factor with bf4, i played it a bunch with my dad and bf4 and black ops 2 were my first FPS video games i ever played

[pine roost]

Calling this battlefield but making it some kind of hero shooter with no clear direction ruined what I enjoyed most about battlefield compared to other games

[fierce gull]

I only enjoy siege of Shanghai in bf4 lol

Other maps not so much

[rich agate]

Locker or Pearl Market for grinding / infantry
Golmud for vehicle
Flood Zone for a mix of both

[wide shore]

I like Zavod. Shanghai is okay. Graveyard Shift is cool. Everything else…

[warped pulsar]

Metro is pretty legendary

[rich agate]

its fun every now and then, im glad to see servers that don't restrict weapons on that map

[fierce gull]

The escalators give me PTSD

[arctic grove]

xD

[wide shore]

I can’t stand playing Flood Zone. The flow on that map is just non-existent. Camping roof snipers everywhere. Yuck

[warped pulsar]

That's the biggest problem I have with BF4 today. The servers that remove every fun weapon in the game

[rich agate]

I never know what weapon to go with in Metro. ARs dont have enough ammo and reload fucks me up, but LMGs arent powerful enough

[wide shore]

M249 with a bipod.

[rich agate]

Im a run n' gunner

[wide shore]

SMG then

[rich agate]

I played a Locker Rush game today that disabled: FLIR, shotguns, UCAV, mortar (its locker theres not TOO much mortaring) and RPG on infantry

[mossy badge]

Battlefield 4 colour was weird tooo blue black grey game can't see anything

[rich agate]

what smg do you suggest

[wide shore]

BF4 was just suppppperrr orange.

[mental delta]

MPX

[wide shore]

Shoot. Idk. I didn’t use SMGs a lot in BF4.

[rich agate]

I havent unlocked it because I cant find a chainlink match :/

[wide shore]

There’s a P90 in BF4 right? Can’t go wrong with that. Good close range and a big mag

[mental delta]

Try the two UMP so, or maybe the CZ-3a1, I don't remember the name but that's a sort of skorpion like in bo2

[rich agate]

I'll go mess aroudn with that if I have it unlocked... let me check in #stats

[mossy badge]

One more thing the grind is ugly in BF4 it's like game yelling at your ears buy the shortcut kits

[obsidian zinc]

I read BigMac. xD

[mental delta]

You unlock it during campaign

[rich agate]

I am currently stuck in the campaign in the underwater swimming mission, I keep swimming into invisible walls so I stopped playing lmao

[wide shore]

Battlepack unlocks drove me to drink

[mental delta]

Go have some snack boy

[empty bloom]

good evening 2042 enjoyers

[mossy badge]

Hate that too I hate it in BF1 also

[wide shore]

Good evening legend

[mossy badge]

But BF1 grind is fine

[obsidian zinc]

the thing is: I just ate. :D

[mental delta]

I remember this part of the mission lmao that's horrible, my strategy was to swim forward and it worked just push harder

[rich agate]

my friends complained that bf1 guns are "too inaccurate" and im like thats the fucking point

[mental delta]

You are still hungry I can see it, have more snack boy

[wide shore]

At least in BF1 it was just cosmetic stuff (minus the melee weapons). BF4 you could only unlock certain attachments for guns through battlepacks. Which drove me crazy.

Getting the Kobra sight on an American gun was just a coin toss.

[rich agate]

atleast it was through weapon mastery. and most of them were versions of the same things than you can already unlock- they had several different suppressors that did the same thing.

[mental delta]

From what I remember you should try to swim the more close to the ground possible because a bug prevents you from passing in the middle of the submerged corridor

[mossy badge]

No no no I like normal grind which should not be Hard labour work it should be fun to grind something and that's what I hate about BF4

[rich agate]

i'll try and revisit the campaign later tonight, thanks for the tips!

[rich agate]

what rank are you in bf4?

[obsidian zinc]

aye, captain. xD

[winged plank]

2042 ded

[arctic grove]

gta trilogy had a way way worse launch than this, next to MCC

[mossy badge]

Don't remember refund it the same day I bought it sorry no offense man I know you love it 😅

[rich agate]

Lmao its all good, i respect your opinion on the game theyre completely valid points

[wide shore]

I made it to rank 125 in BF4. But that’s cause I play on console, and at one point, it was the only 64 player BF game you could play on console. That, and backwards compatibility wasn’t a thing yet. So I couldn’t play BF3 or BC2 even if I wanted to.

[rich agate]

i'm rank 99 on playstation, rank 107 on PC

[mossy badge]

5000-3000 players on steam I am glad that it has crossplay and bots otherwise omg I can't imagine

[mental delta]

Go eat seaman, the ocean and piratery is waiting for us

[wide shore]

Once BF1 launched I never looked back. I max ranked in BF1 & got every achievement & did all the Easter eggs.

Needless to say, I love BF1.

[mental delta]

No problems

[dense terrace]

ah im delivering sausages coz they are going bad and if they go bad people will shit their insides out. top notch side quests

[mossy badge]

Disgusting

[desert elbow]

Agreed, bots were one of the greatest additions to this game

It’s a shame bc1-BF5 don’t have bots, sad to know one day they’ll be pretty much unplayable

[wide shore]

Well, BFV has bots in co-op mode

But, yeah. You can’t just play a mock multiplayer

[sacred marten]

so there are people on steam that got a refund after playing 30 hours. I only have 25 hours and they are declining the refund. wtf now I am stuck with this broken ass game

[fierce gull]

Nice

[mossy badge]

Sad bro

[fierce gull]

I would refund but I know I'm gonna buy it again anyways

[sacred marten]

in 2 years when its done and its free to play

[mossy badge]

I don't think this game will become free to play maybe they will release a game mode that is free to play

[lofty nymph]

when new map

[fierce gull]

Season pass is in early summer

Patches, improvements and some new shit will be in early March

[arctic grove]

Or never

[soft turtle]

anyone here tried ww3 beta test

[sacred marten]

anyway this game is not worth more than $20

[vocal adder]

EA are actually better off shutting down the servers and going back to battlefield v

[mossy badge]

Not even free

[soft turtle]

nah they gotta sell BF to a studio who knows how to make a proper fps

[lofty nymph]

we get a GTA VI trailer before 2042 gets new content 💀

[mossy badge]

It's a written text man 😭

[wide shore]

Acting like DICE doesn’t know how to make an FPS is a big

[snow sandal]

The current DICE isn't really the DICE we know

[soft turtle]

They do, but seriously they need to stop with these mistakes, at least adapt to it and try find ways to prevent those

[wide shore]

People were saying the same thing about R* before RDR2, and it ended up being their best game.

[fierce gull]

I just want hardline to portal

[soft turtle]

just wait for DICE LA to come and save them again 😆

[wide shore]

I mean DICE LA made portal and people are shitting on that too

[mossy badge]

This game can't be saved then

[fierce gull]

If they save it I won't be surprised

[mossy badge]

Maybe next Battlefield will be a 4/10 game

[wide shore]

It’s gonna take a lot of work. But they’ve unfortunately done it before.

[vocal adder]

Don't think they can save this one its rotten to the core

[soft turtle]

nah just admit, maybe all the old DICE devs went and work on ww3

[fierce gull]

WW3 is alright

Didn't like the gunplay but I liked the maps

[iron blade]

If this current game is...the way it is...then i cannot fathom what the supposed hero shooter the next BF is gonna be

[mossy badge]

Naaaaaah they working on a game that I am not interested at all arc raiders

[soft turtle]

has the arcadey feel but also maintaining the immersive feel

[wide shore]

Ah yes. WW3. The game on it’s like 5th launch

[hidden sand]

I mean no, nothing on this scale. It's not fair to compare this game to older ones when the situations are so different. We have not had this much missing, this much downgraded, combined with the technical issues, before. It's a entirely new challenge for them.

[fierce gull]

Every shit they do is a downgrade each launch

[mossy badge]

It's an indie game studios with very less budget

[soft turtle]

look at BF3 and BF4

[snow sandal]

You have literally proven my point. Rockstar delivered. DICE didn't.

[iron blade]

Im tempted to pursue a gaming developer career so i can get into dice and actually make a good game with legacy features at launch

[winged plank]

fr

[wide shore]

Content wise, sure.

Bug wise, controversy wise? I mean, they brought back Battlefront 2, which hands down ruined a system poised to plague modern gaming. (Lootboxes)

[fierce gull]

Jesus even some parts of battlefront 2 was a downgrade

[mossy badge]

OPTIMIZATION sucks alsooo

[fierce gull]

Comparing to battlefront 2015

[soft turtle]

yeah, but BF2042 was rotten even before release tho ngl

[vocal adder]

Man only if battlefront 2 was still getting content that game would be the bomb right now

[hidden sand]

Battlefront 2, like the other failures they've had, still had a good base with a lot of content to work with. It was pretty good bug wise too, the lootboxes and progression were the biggest issues. Not a fair comparison, once again.

[soft turtle]

wanted umbara, and a clone perspective story tho

[fierce gull]

Bugs were shit

[wide shore]

I mean, BF2042 has a good base too. But that’s definitely subjective.

[fierce gull]

Anyone remember two Darth Vaders in hero showdown

Pretty sure that's still happening today

[vocal adder]

you can still do that

[mossy badge]

Maps are garbage

[fierce gull]

Remember how Anakin Skywalker was broken af when he first got released

[silver topaz]

EA's plan was to ruin BF2042 so that people go back to Battlefront 2.

[fierce gull]

Balanced my ass

[hidden sand]

I mean, that's fine to think, but there are objective downgrades and missing features, which are so plentiful which is why it's so different to past launches.

[vocal adder]

That shit was fucking op haha

[radiant osprey]

All games released nowadays have good bases unfortunately they all have this potential. only they fail to give players that potential at release for whatever reason. always have to pay first to get it in 1 year or two years. Just give us bf3 remastered thanks so we can continue on a new battlefield game for 10 more years until ea and dice have their shit together

[hidden sand]

SWBF2 got buggier with time, tbh. It's still really buggy and unbalanced.

[mossy badge]

Balance and DICE 😂😂😂😂

[fierce gull]

Don't get me started on the part where you could get stuck when your hero starts rolling

[stiff ocean]

battlefield still bad?

[silver topaz]

Getting better, I think.

[arctic grove]

Battlefield

[wide shore]

My point with SWBF2 was more about public perception. I’ve never seen a game get thrashed harder than BF2. BF2042 is close, but I don’t think it’s even on that level.

[hidden sand]

One of the things that bugs me most is the fact squad managment is completely missing. Kinda odd they glossed over that completely.

[mossy badge]

There is just 1 game BF1 which is ok 5/10

[vocal adder]

the only downside to battlefront 2 was the lack of blasters man only 4 weapons got added in its entire lifespan and that was pretty much the last update

[stiff ocean]

okay ill check in again in another 3 months

[silver topaz]

If only they implemented Big Rigs into BF2042. The diarrhea icing on the crap cake.

[hidden sand]

BF2042 is the level below it, imo. They would need P2W mechanics like SWBF2 had to cause another uproar like that. But there'll never be P2W mechanics in DICE games again.

[mossy badge]

I hope next time when you play 2042 you have smile on your face and enjoyment I hope it becomes good 👍

[wide shore]

Well, thank goodness for that at least

[vocal adder]

it won't be good still be the same shit as it is now

[stiff ocean]

💜 Thanks mate

[hidden sand]

It'll be pretty much impossible to meet SWBF2 levels of outrage again I feel. That was a whole other level. Rightfully so, though.

[mossy badge]

Atleast 4/10 game

Right now it's 0.2/10

[vocal adder]

wonder what battlefront 2 would of been like if that outrage never happened

[fierce gull]

Hmm

[dusky blade]

Except the new cods

[hidden sand]

More like if DICE had just never done it in the first place. It would have lived longer, for sure.

[dusky blade]

Probably wouldn’t have become as good, the fact that it struggled meant passionate devs came on the scene

[mossy badge]

It was necessary otherwise 2042 is not just like how is it right now + microtransactions will seriously I don't know man 😂

[hidden sand]

Those passionate devs were always there and wanted to make a good game. DICE management wanted a slot machine.

[dusky blade]

Fair enough

Though I still don’t think much would’ve changed, In fact they probably would’ve been FAR less community focused

[hidden sand]

Dennis Brännvall was such a legend, I wish we had someone like him for 2042. The fact he would just straight up ask people on different soical platforms what we would think of certain ideas, was so damn refreshing and showed just how much he cared.

[dusky blade]

The SWBF2 we got had devs we could ask for something, and they added it months later

Commandos? People asked, we got them

Droedikas, however you spell them, we got it

A supremacy mode? We asked, we received

[fierce gull]

What are they even gonna do to the specialists in this game
They said they had a team analysing them

[dusky blade]

You suggest a skin idea, they said it’s cool, and added it

[hidden sand]

Remember the crashed speeder?

[vocal adder]

what was it 6-8 guys that were really passionate about it that's why

[dusky blade]

By far the best EA community ever

[fierce gull]

People asked for the supremacy mode?

[dusky blade]

Yes

[fierce gull]

Thought it was a surprise

[vocal adder]

yes constantly

[dusky blade]

Then they asked for different eras, and we got that too

[hidden sand]

People asked for conquest so they came up with Capital Supremacy.

[vocal adder]

People also asked for more clone wars got that also

[hidden sand]

Tbh, I wish they had just done full blown conquest, completely Battlefield style.

[fierce gull]

I swear I have seen a concept art of the Jedi temple for battlefront 2

[hidden sand]

Mustafar was the next planned map iirc

[dusky blade]

I still love how new battlefront isn’t a battlefield clone, it’s more unique now :)

[fierce gull]

I wonder where that went

[mossy badge]

Passion sometimes dies if you don't get freedom and time and somebody keeps on giving you dead lines

[dusky blade]

Mustafar was planned but scrapped, it was too similar to geonosis

[vocal adder]

i think there was also a blaster rework to make the starting weapons be viable also but that never made it also

[fierce gull]

People are asking dice to make a battlefront system for battlefield 2042
Split the specialists and make them reinforcements while you can use classes

[hidden sand]

That sounds awful and is so overcomplicated.

[fierce gull]

I have seen couple of posts about it on Reddit

[dusky blade]

They shouldn’t do that for battlefield

Keep battlefront a hero style, wacky more linear game

And keep battlefield the open ended, full sandbox type game

[hidden sand]

Just do it the way BFV did it. Specialist become cosmetic only. Their gadgets switch to class based gadgets.

[river jungle]

It failed

[fierce gull]

Although I think the idea is kinda bad
I would kinda like it in portal

[mental cave]

whoever came up with that had a terrible idea tbh, might as well just delete them. have to gather what 2k points just to spawn in as McKay or Sundance and use grappling hook/squirrel suit lol not worth it

[foggy tundra]

my thoughts are, they shouldve made faction specific specialists, locked gadgets to be class specific, maybe started with a min of 20 specs, 10 on each side with similar abilities just with different names

[somber pebble]

Could make them a pick up load out, like the flametrooper in bf1

[dusky blade]

Bring back elites

[hidden sand]

Specialist should have never had unique abilities and should've been cosmetic only. With gadgets retricted to class.

[sudden peak]

WHO WANTS TO START A DRUNK SQUAD NOW

[somber pebble]

Or just delete them, I'm fine with that

[fierce gull]

No

We need Wingsuits

[dusky blade]

Elites were awesome

[foggy tundra]

OR

[mental cave]

just keep them, whats the point, we've come this far with them

[vocal adder]

They should be scrapped tbh wingsuit should be a gadget

[somber pebble]

It can be a gadget for recon

[foggy tundra]

they couldve just you know, incorporated specialist abilities to mob elite class soldiers ingame, like how bf1 had elite classes

[fierce gull]

Kinda weird for recon

[somber pebble]

Because a vast majority hates then

[river jungle]

Are they gonna revert Falck now?

[fierce gull]

I feel like it would be better for assault

[dusky blade]

This far? They’ve barely crossed the starting line

[somber pebble]

Either or

[hidden sand]

Wingsuit needs to be removed from the game along with the grappling hook, but unfortunately they never will be.

[dusky blade]

The wingsuit and grapple hook completely destroy map design

[fierce gull]

If they remove Wingsuits
The noob from battlefield friends will be sad

[mental cave]

the whole game is based on the specialists being the way they are, if it was just deleted it would be so much work that I doubt they'd be willing to do, might as well just make a whole new game 😭

[somber pebble]

The terrible map designs destroyed map design

[somber pebble]

Yes please

[dusky blade]

If you’re talking about work required to delete specialists, it’s not much

[fierce gull]

If they remove Specialists
Lawsuits incoming

[dusty condor]

fun game, feels like a waste of money tho

[mental cave]

the maps play with the specialists, thats why its so open and big, they expect you to place Irish shields and travel with wings suits and grappling hooks

[dusty condor]

cant wait to un regret in 1-2 years

[dusky blade]

They can make specialists cosmetic only, they never stated in the Y1 pass that they would function this way

[fierce gull]

Smart man

[vocal adder]

The maps are so bad even dice knows it lmao

[dusty condor]

yup, buy game, play later

[hidden sand]

No? Classes exist in the game already. I see removing them as making them cosmetic only, with their gadgets becoming class based. Along with the other gadgets. That's relatively simple in comparison to other things they need to do.

[dusty condor]

like with battlefront 2 and bf V, cant wait for 2042 when i actually start playing

[dusky blade]

SWBF2 was always a fun game

[dusty condor]

yeah but after p2w remove and more content added i started playing more cuz more fun yk

[dusky blade]

Weren’t lootboxes only in the game pre launch lol

[somber pebble]

Except for release anakin

[mossy badge]

If these specialist was cosmetics omg they are the most ugliest uninspired cosmetic I have ever seen

[dusky blade]

Release anakin, fun times

[fierce gull]

Instant win
Perfect balance

[somber pebble]

[hidden sand]

If any of the level designers thought these maps were good, I would be worried for the future levels added lol. I really hope they've learnt huge lessons from these.

[dusty condor]

tbh i like the system of classes like assault, medic, engineer but specialists should be a thing for smaller game modes and like per example the grapple hook or some special abilities could become util for SPECIFIC classes who knows

[dusky blade]

I remember the devs saying they wanted to make him the strongest hero to be in line with the canon

[dusty condor]

[mental cave]

yes you can delete them but the maps function in ways that make the passive abilities of each specialist help in super specific situations. if they deleted it they'd probably have to add a card system like cod for the passive perks like McKays "move faster when aiming"

[dusky blade]

Though using heroic might, and instantly doing 900 damage to everyone around you was a tad strong

[dusty condor]

obi wan always most fun in HvH tho

[fierce gull]

2 Anakins in hero showdown and they both use infinite health glitch

[dusty condor]

nahhh i feel like they couldve buffed him , i felt kinda weak as a controller player

[somber pebble]

Plus his ridiculous health pool, force oull instant killing infantry

[dusky blade]

BRUH

[dusky blade]

Force pull was fair, heroes should decimate infantry

[dusty condor]

didnt he have a one shot infantry card other then heavy or was that just for vader

[dusky blade]

Oh yeah didn’t he have like 1200 health lol

[fierce gull]

Force pull was fair my ass

I could pull troops 1 million miles away

[dusty condor]

also they shouldve made luke as strong as release anakin tbh cuz they both were kinda the chosen one but more luke

[hidden sand]

I must've not been clear, my bad. I'm saying that their abilities would be given to specific classes (Assault, Medic, Support, Recon), and the actual specialist would be cosmetics you could choose.

[dusky blade]

You can’t really talk about fairness on the topic of heroes anyway, we all know the infamous darth maul off the map throw

When he grabbed you, you knew it was over

[fierce gull]

And you get stuck after the throw as a hero
Fun times

[dusty condor]

maybe rey too cuz shes the well third chosen one and second chosen one to do what the chosen one has to do

[dusky blade]

Rey was meh

[somber pebble]

Now they left grievous busted as hell

[vocal adder]

For me to play again specialists removed, Class system, movement system rework,Map reworks, classic scoreboard hud

[somber pebble]

Those movies don't exist

[dusky blade]

Honestly something I liked about BF2 was that there was a clear stronger and weaker side, not a 100% focus on competitive balance

[fierce gull]

Wouldn't people call out false advertising if they remove Specialists

[dusky blade]

They’ll make a new ad about the rework

[somber pebble]

Nobody left playing to

[dusty condor]

tbh i dont like the three chosen ones; one turns evil; one finishes the destiny of chosen one and last chosen one cleans up the last remnants of palpatine force clones cuz shit just keeps going on too far with chosen one ;-;

[hidden sand]

For me its, BFV Tank Mechanics, BFV movement, and BFV 1st and 3rd person animations. Combined with the other things you said.

[dusky blade]

False advertising isn’t just “ah they changed or missed something, lawsuit time”

[dusty condor]

movie wouldve been better if rey wasnt displayed as the chosen one but rather as something like a chosen one but like grey jedi path or some shit

[fierce gull]

So the portal XP change wasn't false advertising

[dusky blade]

It’s more like a free money scheme by following these steps, except the steps aren’t what’s advertised and in the end your money is stolen

[dusky blade]

Nope, it was a thing, then it was removed

[mental cave]

yeah I get you lol but I'm talking about the perks each specialist gets like McKay has a faster movement perk,dozer has explosive damage resistance, and irish has additional armor/ recovers more armor they would have to make it a perk that you choose for your assault class since all 3 had different perks and were all assault types

[hidden sand]

That was a thing in BFV, would work fine. You could give those to individual classes as well.

[fierce gull]

Anyone have a release date on Recker?

[vocal adder]

What they need to do is pull 2042 down for now until these reworks come into place relaunch it next year make a Eastern front DLC for Battlefield V and New DLC for battlefront 2. Man can only dream aye 😂

[mental cave]

interesting I never played bf5, so I wouldnt know 😂

[vocal adder]

Play battlefield V come back and you will see how bad 2042 is right now

[mental cave]

nah, I skipped bf1 and bf5 launches were boring af so I quit and went back to bf4 lol

[arctic grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/928793185621266473/936884750474428426/alertedthehorse.gif

[hidden sand]

Then you'll have someone yelling in your ear "BuT I thOuGhT BFV wAs bAd?" because ignorance is bliss

[fierce gull]

Bfv doesn't have any good rocks

But I just don't get it

Hourglass has shitty sand but that desert 1942 map has hot sand

[mental cave]

I went back to try firestorm tho lol

[fierce gull]

The buildings in hourglass look good and all but the sand is so shit

[mental cave]

its all shit 💀

[jovial furnace]

Agreed. Footprints are amazing though 👀

[fierce gull]

I don't get it man
The grass good
The rocks are good

But the sand is left out

[mental cave]

sand is probably harder to animate tbh cus its so many little rocks

[hidden sand]

The footprint terrain deformation doesn't work right half of the time I've noticed but that's a nitpick. Does parallel other aspects of the game though.

[jovial furnace]

Water physics also suck. Like it’s kinda sad. Bf5’s water was awesome

[mental cave]

theres water in 2042?

[fierce gull]

If you could play 2042 rn
Take a good look at the sand in that 1942 desert map and look at hourglass

[jovial furnace]

haha ya, on Kaleidoscope and Orbital

[mental cave]

wtf never noticed where is it?

boutta go splash around

[jovial furnace]

On Kaleidoscope surrounding the center building. On Orbital at the outskirts

[somber pebble]

You'll crash the game

[mental cave]

I want it to, I've yet to see what the crash screen looks like on ps5

[fierce gull]

Use the hovercraft on water

[jovial furnace]

Oh ya, also some pits of water on Manifest. Also on the sides of the map. Has the most water I think

[fierce gull]

I have seen people use MAVs to float on water to get to the other side of a boat in manifest

[jovial furnace]

That actually works? 👀

[fierce gull]

Yep

[jovial furnace]

Interesting. I’ll have to try that out

[fierce gull]

I have a feeling we are gonna get naval maps in the future

[jovial furnace]

That would be great. Those kinds of maps are really fun to play

[dusky blade]

I don’t think we will

Just keep in mind the game is being canned after this year is over

[jovial furnace]

Probably. Though one can hope not

[barren ore]

Bad trolling.

[teal loom]

Very bad trolling . . .

[arctic grove]

BfV is a champion compared to bf2042 is what they're saying lol

[teal loom]

Nah, lol

[dense terrace]

best game

[teal loom]

That either

lol

[arctic grove]

there is no best battlefield game

[dense terrace]

2042 hands down

[arctic grove]

all of them are great (except for 2)

[vale sparrow]

How do I get the Mackay Specialist Skin?

[torpid adder]

Alright, someone tell me why the staff shell wouldnt work with a soflam on air vehicles???

It should right???

[formal imp]

Video games

[torpid adder]

but it do be pure bs tho

[vale sparrow]

How do I get the specialist skin?

I must know

[cedar turtle]

[torpid adder]

use google

[fierce gull]

The sexy Mackay one?

The one of all
The best

[vale sparrow]

Yes

[dense terrace]

u cant

[formal imp]

The new Mackay skin? You need to have the season one pass or gold edition or something.

[fierce gull]

Do you have the ultimate edition or gold?

[dense terrace]

oh u mean incomming one

[desert elbow]

^ No objectively best Battlefield game

[torpid adder]

Battlefield 4

[vale sparrow]

Xbox Gold, or what gold?

[desert elbow]

Oh @fierce gull did you lose your roles?

[fierce gull]

2042 gold edition

[twin coral]

We all have our favourites

[formal imp]

Gold edition of Battlefield 2042.

[fierce gull]

Ye I lost nitro

[desert elbow]

Exactlyyyy

[desert elbow]

Ah rip, hopefully you end up getting regular

[vale sparrow]

Well, I don’t have a Gold

[twin coral]

Which one's yours?

[fierce gull]

You have standard?

[vale sparrow]

But how mucin Xbox Series X, I play on standard

How much is the gold edition?

[fierce gull]

Someone get a medic over here

[desert elbow]

Honestly I feel like bf4 is the most complete but bf1 just has the most variety in terms of gameplay, it’s not warships, blimps, planes and even trains, so I’d honestly say bf1. What about you?

[buoyant prawn]

Battlefield 4

[fierce gull]

I think it's on sale right now but Im not too sure
Check it out in the store

Btw the skin doesn't come out until Early March along with the March update

[buoyant prawn]

BF1 gameplay is lame compared to bf4. Which feels way better and plays better than that slow shit of bf1

[twin coral]

4, then 3 or 1
1 is so unique
3 is great, and I feel like 4 improved on 3 in most categories (other than map design, 3 has better maps)

[vale sparrow]

$74.99 for Gold? Wtf

[fierce gull]

Is the gold edition cheaper if you own the standard game?

[arctic grove]

This is an interesting take. I personally prefer bf1s jump and slide counter and the slower movement. It separates itself from CoD in my opinion

Feels less like people are flying around.

[buoyant prawn]

You can't compare cod to battlefield

2 different games which have their own sense

I do prefer cod gameplay because it just feels nice in every game, it makes sense. And the gameplay of most battlefield makes sense for the games they are

[arctic grove]

Right, I see what you’re saying

[buoyant prawn]

It's messed up tbh, but

[desert elbow]

Honestly I just wish all of Bf3’s maps were ported to bf4, it would easily be the best game in the eyes of most fans if that was the case imo

[buoyant prawn]

I like battlefield, but cod is much faster and more fun than this slow shit of a franchise.
I never recognized how cod made me impatient.
I die= i wanna respawn instantly. Not waiting 10 years to spawn 10 km far away from the objective every fucking time

[desert elbow]

Bf3 just had so much variety, it had the close quarters maps alongside the huge vehicle maps, Bandar Desert is still one of my favourite battlefield maps

[desert elbow]

Bf4 was far slower paced than bf1

[arctic grove]

Bf4 would’ve been cool with bf3s aircraft too

[twin coral]

Updated with BFV movement and I'd be satisfied for the next decade

[arctic grove]

Vehicles in general not just aircraft

[desert elbow]

Makes me wonder what the next Battlefield game would be, honestly I’m hoping for Vietnam, I wouldn’t mind going back to 64 players if it let them put a HUGE emphasis on next gen destruction

[twin coral]

I would happily receive a game that takes place somewhere between WW2 and 2000

[buoyant prawn]

I'm trying bf5 in these days, I'll see what I can say about the movement, everyone praising it, still they declare it's the worst battlefield game ever? I don't understand the community of bf

[arctic grove]

And don’t forget if you look at certain bf1 videos the comments used to trash V, it’s pretty much the battlefield cycle

[formal imp]

Battlefield

[buoyant prawn]

I didn't like BF1 multiplayer at all

[elder patrol]

Me hungey

[buoyant prawn]

I literally have 2 hours on that game, i ain't playing it again in my life

[desert elbow]

Lots of potential, most wars in that period had some great scenery too

[formal imp]

Fallout 4?

[arctic grove]

I have a curious question, did you find it immersive?

[elder patrol]

Sure

[buoyant prawn]

The only BF i liked so far, was 4th.

[formal imp]

That’s awesome

[elder patrol]

I'm just a pie that likes battlefield

[buoyant prawn]

no, i can't enjoy a game if i can't see the enemy in front of me. I can't find a game immersive if the same guy kills me with the same weapon over and over, i can't find a game immersive if it has shit maps.

[barren ore]

And that's alright!

[formal imp]

Battlefield specialist system

[arctic grove]

Bf1 martini Henry and mp18 trench are pretty much the go to guns

[elder patrol]

I'm still waiting for alex to make that flamethrower in 2042

[buoyant prawn]

Wohooooo, so fun!

[barren ore]

Same

[buoyant prawn]

I'm even wasting 70 dollars or so on dlcs alright?

Dumb me, i forgot to buy the battle packs

[elder patrol]

I know you can see this alex! Give me that pistol flamethrower

[fierce gull]

if he does
this will be history

[barren ore]

YES

[arctic grove]

How do you feel about 2042 patriot?

[formal imp]

I honestly just want a full sized flamethrower who fucking cares anymore give me it all

[fierce gull]

he has to put a word pie on the flamethrower

[buoyant prawn]

If BF1 is shit, 2042 is the shit of the shit.

[fierce gull]

i only got bf1 cuz the seven nation army music got me hooked

[barren ore]

2042 is alright

[buoyant prawn]

Literally EA just dropped a fat shit on bf name

[elder patrol]

He wouldnt budge on the weaponized tuk tuk. But I had to convince him about a flamethrower. I better get it

[buoyant prawn]

And gave birth to 2042

[formal imp]

How many hours y’all got in 2042

[barren ore]

Not enough

[elder patrol]

I cant tell

[fierce gull]

idk 100 hours

[dusky blade]

I had 101

[desert elbow]

Ngl they should allow boris to place his turret on top of vehicles, that’d be pretty fun

[arctic grove]

I have about 60 hours in 2042

[elder patrol]

I thought about that tbh

[fierce gull]

shieeet we need this

[barren ore]

😎

[vivid nacelle]

250,h

[elder patrol]

But I feel like that could be just a tad bit broken

[arctic grove]

60 hours and plenty more to go

[formal imp]

I’m 230 hours in at this point and I can’t bare another match

[buoyant prawn]

Bf5 got br?

[fierce gull]

they should allow us to grapple into moving vehicles and do a spider man move

[elder patrol]

Yes

[dusky blade]

Why

[formal imp]

Yea but it’s dead

[desert elbow]

Yeah ngl it’s one of the best ones I’ve played

[buoyant prawn]

💀