battlefield-2042

[hardy leaf]

so was I, i actually believed launch will be perfectly polished unlike the beta

[arctic grove]

I preferred the beta

[grizzled whale]

220 hours in and still having a lot of fun

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/traffic-fbi-open-up-raid-gif-13450966

[hardy leaf]

same atleast there were no long queues to find a lobby

[arctic grove]

All well and good but like 99% of everyone else disagrees which is what is driving it to the ground!

[hardy leaf]

but hes from those 1%

[grizzled whale]

i mean, the pc playerbase is going up again so im fine with it

[scenic tartan]

im gonna tell you a secret
no matter what the game was or how it was released the player numbers would be about what they are now

[arctic grove]

I’m seeing 8k on steam charts

Bf1 was considerably better

[hardy leaf]

the new season update will surely spike the playercount however it will just dwindle down again due to the bugs

[grizzled whale]

BFV was trash just because of the setting

[arctic grove]

Bfv wasn’t even trash

It’s like night and day compared to 2042

[scenic tartan]

BF1 was an outlier and also didnt release on steam
BFV probably had very similar numbers to 2042

BF1 was a huge success, BFV and 2042 arent

[grizzled whale]

ww1-2 games= trash

[scenic tartan]

since BFV internet decided they hate battlefield and thats where we are

[arctic grove]

it’s not just that, 2042 doesn’t even have a scoreboard for god sake

[scenic tartan]

nobody really cares about scoreboard the scoreboard wouldn't keep another 10k players

[arctic grove]

Scoreboard is just an example

Optimisation, bugs, balancing, graphics,

Everything feels wrong

[scenic tartan]

no matter what the player numbers would be close to what they are now

[arctic grove]

No

[scenic tartan]

even halo infinite loses more than 80% of players

[arctic grove]

It was hyped up so hard

It was so anticipated

[hardy leaf]

yes because those who paid 70$ for the game and denied refund got no choice but play the game

[arctic grove]

That’s because people realised not everyone wants a slow paced high ttk game

[grizzled whale]

i love seeing refunds get denied

[scenic tartan]

its just that battlefield has always been too complicated for the masses and the further we get from BF3 the lower the player count gets

[grizzled whale]

people say BF3 is one of the best BF games to date, and its got less than 100 players

[scenic tartan]

thats because its old as fuck

[boreal thistle]

i gotta say espinoza is best ballistic shield in a bf game

[arctic grove]

Bf4, bad release (servers). Hardline was basically just a dlc lol, bf1 amazing, bfv controversial on release, bf2042 pile of dogshit

[boreal thistle]

i was running up with a guy with the shield out and he m5'd straight into the ground at his feet. thought he was playing GTAO and tried to EWO

[grizzled whale]

csgo is one year younger and its got millions of players

[scenic tartan]

BFV was much worse than 2042

[arctic grove]

not gameplay wise

2042 feels like a walking simulator

[pastel panther]

Fr

[arctic grove]

then unsatisfying gunfights

[scenic tartan]

you should play it better i never am walking anywhere

[scenic tartan]

it gets conintual updates and never had a follow up game..

[arctic grove]

I played hourglass and had to walk for 10 minutes to find some action

[glossy storm]

I like the fact that Dozer's shield can deflect nades.

[pastel panther]

Fr

[hardy leaf]

so u dont walk and get gunfights right away ? lying to yourself?

[glossy storm]

But the shield should have an integrity level, TBH.

[scenic tartan]

theres a lot of ways to avoid that, but the game doesn't stop you from running for 10 minutes i guess. thats on you

[glossy storm]

I mean, tank shots doing absolutely nothing to the shields sounds like crap.

[arctic grove]

Do you think a new player is gonna know that

Bf2042 should be focusing on attracting new players

Since most bf sweats abandoned it

[hardy leaf]

its attracting none

neither new playere nor old players liking it

[scenic tartan]

I mean i can walk for 10 minutes in BF1 too if i want

[arctic grove]

I was walking towards objectives

And on the map it said that was where my team was

What was I doing wrong

[scenic tartan]

idk i mean you have vehicles to call in, you can spawn on points or teammates, you can just do a lot of things except walk around for 10 min. you need the game to show you the way?

[arctic grove]

if you just spawn you can’t cal in vehicles without points iirc

Also spawning in squad mates doesn’t help when you still have to run to the next point for action

[scenic tartan]

im just going to assume you haven't really played the game much and are just here for.. reasons

[arctic grove]

I played the game for a few hours on the free weekend and in the beta

[scenic tartan]

so typical critic that has barely played it and is just repeating what is said on reddit. thats good

[arctic grove]

No actually, i formed my own opinion when I saw how shitty the gameplay was!

[boreal thistle]

i don't understand why people complain so much about "walking simulator". vehicles are plentiful in this game. i never find myself walking from one objective to another unless they're close by or i want to walk.

[arctic grove]

Look at my earlier messages on here, I was actually pretty optimistic

[scenic tartan]

ok reddit, you clowned yourself now im gonna just file you with the rest

[arctic grove]

Don’t even use reddit, keep defending by far the worst battlefield game if you want

[arctic grove]

Yea true

[boreal thistle]

its really bad on reddit. no discussion of the actual gameplay.

[arctic grove]

I’m discussing the actual gameplay, it’s fucking dogshit

The maps are 2x bigger with a mb entire desert between objectives

[scenic tartan]

just go find something better to do you exposed that you only played a few hours in beta. idk why you're here

[arctic grove]

Mate just press escape and redeploy (that should solve all your problems)

[arctic grove]

You really think I would buy 2042? There’s a reason why the refund rate is so high, keep being in denial clown.

[scenic tartan]

he doesnt know about any of that he's just here to troll and copy/paste reddit

[arctic grove]

You can stay on a sinking ship or you can tell the captain and stop it sinking.

[hardy leaf]

keep defending this failure of a game with your life lol

[arctic grove]

I want ea to either fix this burning hell or make a good game next time

[scenic tartan]

this kid didn't even know how to deploy vehicles or redeploy and was in here complaining about running for 10 minutes

[arctic grove]

I wasn’t in a squad, and from what I could see there weren’t any vehicles on the spawn menu

[scenic tartan]

this would be like complaining about call of duty aiming being terrible because you didnt figure out how to use left trigger to aim LOL

[arctic grove]

I mainly play bfv, bf1 and bf4 and the ui in the spawn menu

Which brings me to my next point, the fucking ui!

[scenic tartan]

i hope you're being paid to spend time here

[arctic grove]

imagine getting paid by EA to play 2042

[arctic grove]

I’m walking to work

Levelshillgaming cough

would rather argue with monkeys than listen to music or something

[scenic tartan]

levelcap isnt paid to play it

[arctic grove]

true but is paid for talking about it. But dont it take it serious. I was doin a little bit of trolling.

[scenic tartan]

he's not paid to play it or talk about it

[arctic grove]

really? i heard he is sponsersed by it.

[prime shard]

Your opinion on bf2042 currently?

[arctic grove]

sad

no season 1 yet

[dusky blade]

We did a bit too much trolling

[arctic grove]

lmao agreed

[boreal thistle]

jihad tuk-tuk! finally! ahahaha

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

[safe crag]

Thats racist

[boreal thistle]

god damn this ADS bug is the worst part of this game right now.

[upbeat sand]

rasisissisisism 100

[boreal thistle]

👌

[upbeat sand]

2042 outpost mode when

[boreal thistle]

what do you guys think of the jets in 2042?

i've been having a good time with them.

[upbeat sand]

balanced but overshadowed by heles like the ambi in tf2

ambi masterace from spys suck

[boreal thistle]

overshadowed in what way?

[low solar]

I swear getting dog tags is easy until you need to do it for a challenge

[boreal thistle]

jets feel a little OP to me. helis just have no chance. i wish they'd bring back below radar

[foggy halo]

They are weird. I probably need to watch some tutorial

[boreal thistle]

they fly just like in bf4

[foggy halo]

That’s not the experience I m having chief

[boreal thistle]

i rarely see the radar tracking missiles but when someone had one of those on a jet they absolutely ruined my shit. otherwise i can win most jet 1:1s

[velvet hornet]

yeh

[boreal thistle]

with a controller they fly just like bf4

maybe a bit more agile.

[foggy halo]

Then I need to buy a controller lol

I need to buy 1 anyways for fifa

[strange widget]

They're fucking useless

[boreal thistle]

jets or helis? i'd strongly disagree with that

i've been terrorizing people with jets

[strange widget]

Since BF3 I loved using Jets and aircraft, every BF game had amazing jet gameplay but in 2042 they're just so underwhelming

[boreal thistle]

i think they're just as good as bf4, even more so perhaps

since there are so many vehicles in the air to fight now

[strange widget]

I think your crazy for that opinion

[boreal thistle]

ditto. but you're entitled to your opinion, and i to mine.

[rugged sentinel]

Is anyone elese having problematiek loading in to a game

[strange widget]

The F35 can barely compete with the Russian SU

Dogfights feel so boring in this game

[boreal thistle]

they're about on par with bf4 in that regard, dogfights work pretty much exactly the same

[strange widget]

I know if I'm on the Russian side I don't have to worry about the F35 agility

[boreal thistle]

although the F35 being able to pull stoppies has let me beat flankers plenty of times.

[strange widget]

I just hate the jets so much in this game, they aren't fun to pilot anymore

Tbh it doesn't matter what I do or what I play as, after 1 month of playing nothing makes me happy in this game

[boreal thistle]

i'm having a blast with them. way more targets = more fun

in bf4 you were just flying around with nothing to do for so long

[strange widget]

That's why you put AGMs on the stealth jets, same way you do in 2042

I mean there's only fucking 2 jets Inn the game

[boreal thistle]

a ground attack jet would be fun, but you have so many options for A2G already

[strange widget]

And 1 is way more superior to the other

[strange widget]

You only have the AGMs in 2042

That's your only option to attack vehicles in a jet

[exotic scroll]

Wrong chat

[boreal thistle]

BF4 had the A10/Frogfoot

[strange widget]

Brilliant additions to the game

30mm that did some real hefty damage, large aray of ground pound kit, agility was balanced

[jaunty anchor]

Seeing BF flop this hard is Savage lol. I never in my dreams would have thought a BF could die out. Like ever. Didn't see it in BF 5 this early. Dropping same time as halo and COD was a bad choice. They would have profited from the delay easily. Christmas deadline tryhards for no reason

[strange widget]

Stealth jets were solely focussed on air superiority and keeping the attack jets alive, why the fuck didn't they bring that system back with the stupid amount of vehicle spawns that you get

[limber garden]

Is battlefield comms on vacation again?

[jaunty anchor]

No, They been back

[strange widget]

I've sunk so many hours and days into piloting in the Prior BF games but in 2042 it's just so fucking boring being a pilot

[boreal thistle]

you have helis instead of attack jets. thats really all the difference is.

[limber garden]

Oh, sorry, didn't notice

[boreal thistle]

pick one of your 3 flavors of A2G helils

[strange widget]

2042 said quantity>quality with the amount of vehicles and what they can do

[boreal thistle]

BF2042 you always have air targets to go after. in BF4 you'd be flying around looking at the scenery waiting for an enemy spawn.

[strange widget]

The attack choppers are so underwhelming compared to BF4, Yeah probably because there was usually only 2 attack choppers allowed on the field in a game but at least you had fun in it

2 vehicles in 2042 equal the combat effectiveness of 1 vehicles in BF4 or other BF games

[boreal thistle]

attack helis are still mad powerful. giving everybody a stinger though is kinda spammy

bf4 had the same kind of stigla spam, they solved it with below radar

[strange widget]

Attack helis are garbage, 1 cycle kills 1, maybe 2 people

[boreal thistle]

oh man i dunno what attack helis you been using

[jaunty anchor]

Map design made BF4 way more fun. Map design had me going stupid crazy. Gameplay can be basic as hell but with good map design its playable. Good gameplay and trash map design is semi playable and both is straight up garbage. Gameplay can carry a game tho (MW19 being a prime example (

[strange widget]

They added skill to using the helis, there's none of that shit no more

[strange widget]

I'm literally not joking, 1 30mm cycle will kill 1 person consistently and 2 people if your good

[boreal thistle]

its the same as BF4 was for the most part.

[strange widget]

Wrong reply

[boreal thistle]

i dunno i don't have that problem. i can kill as many people as i can see on 1 heat cycle of the 30mm

usually 3-4 rounds is enough

[strange widget]

Not for me

Or half the people that co pilot for me

[boreal thistle]

i can switch seats get a heat off

switich back, climb, get angle on more targets, go again

[strange widget]

Wish 2042 was fun to play

[boreal thistle]

thats a shame. i'm having a lot of fun with it.

i need to find some new people to play with though. the condor/hind are so stupidly over powered when you have 4 good people in it.

condor especially

[barren crater]

GAMES TRASH , AND DEAD ALREADY

[unkempt zephyr]

I want to fight in the streets in and around Skyscrapers again like in BF4 😭

[barren crater]

" LOVE LETTER TO THE FANS" what a bunch of lying snakes

[severe lake]

I'm really bad with anything besides the sniper. Anyone got any tips to git gud with the other classes?

[glossy storm]

If you read properly, Portal was meant to be the 'love letter'.

Not the entirety of 2042.

[glossy storm]

Yup, definitely need a proper urban map, and not some clean tech park.

[silent snow]

Think we'll get any kind of commumication from these people?

Its almost feburary and they havent said anything weeks before christmas

[elfin flame]

I mean, EA literally said that Battlefront 2 failed to hit their sales expectations.

And especially after their the lootbox controversy post-launch sales will probably be even worse.

[strange widget]

EA just need to shut the fuck up really, we dont care what they think cuz theyre dumb asf when it comes to gaming

[hardy leaf]

i hope they just sell themselves to microsoft

[elfin flame]

They're the ones bankrolling these games, ardent.

[strange widget]

i know

when has anyone ever had anything good to say about EA???

[elfin flame]

Not gonna happen. Especially after Activision they're in hot water with legislators.

[hardy leaf]

some star wars fan boys when they released jedi fallen order

its a mediocre game with stolen mechanics of from software

[strange widget]

i mean im still pissed about how they fucked over TF2, one of my favourite games

[strange widget]

should really be giving the respect to respawn, which they deserve

[hardy leaf]

respawn is a little saving grace for EA

and fifa madden also good but i hate buying the same game every year so i just dont play those

[strange widget]

all i can say is stop buying from triple A, all theyve done these past 5 years is dissapoint us into oblivion.

ive been having mad fun playing indie games recently

[hardy leaf]

i think EA should just disband dice and sell the battlefield franchise to embark studios

[hardy leaf]

yea but there are exceptions like naughty dog, fromsoftware, insomniac

they dont release half assed unfinished games

[strange widget]

only a matter of time.............

[arctic grove]

Rockstar deliver most of the time

[hardy leaf]

coughs in gta trilogy

[hardy leaf]

tbh , every studio can deliver if they make a single game every 10 years

[arctic grove]

Not really triple a

Basically impossible to make their standard every 3 years

[hardy leaf]

if activision made a call of duty in ps3 era and kept on supporting it till ps5 era, no doubt that game would have been polished

[hardy leaf]

well gta 5 is good but not so good that you keep milking it for 3 generations

[arctic grove]

Well they have

And it’s still going strong

[ripe schooner]

这是一个消息

[hardy leaf]

give us 60fps patch for rdr2

[hardy leaf]

heyy

[ripe schooner]

heyy

[pine roost]

I just want a new fps game to really sink my teeth into

The last one was titanfall 2, was going to be battlefield this year but now I have to stick to the oldies for even longer

[strange widget]

good luck soldier

[hardy leaf]

i wanted it too but there is none, so im playing BFV only for now

nd its getting annoying now

[ripe schooner]

How to get character orientation in battlefield 2042

[strange widget]

TF2 is a standard thats near impossible to beat it looks like from recent releases

[surreal crystal]

Orientation?

[pine roost]

I’d love to go back and play it, but I think I’ll need north star in order to

[frigid bobcat]

Question do you guys get into games? Have t gotten into one since yesterday?

[strange widget]

yeah its sad, im glad i got to play it in its golden age

[surreal crystal]

I get into games

[hardy leaf]

its hard to get into games thats why i deleted it, even more hard because there is no server browser

[frigid bobcat]

Awe tf

[radiant osprey]

EA is not gonna make star wars games anymore

All thats left is battlefield games

[surreal crystal]

Yeah sure

[frigid bobcat]

Don’t you think dice can add like a browser

[hardy leaf]

they just announced 3 upcoming star wars games

[hardy leaf]

Dice is DEAD

[strange widget]

FO2

[pine roost]

At least we know they are stuck with 2042 and have to do something to it

[frigid bobcat]

Lmao

[radiant osprey]

Yeah after those 3 games they quit

[pine roost]

But I have little hope after the events that have unfolded recently

[hardy leaf]

another fps star wars game other than jedi

[strange widget]

oh?

[hardy leaf]

yes they announced recently

[torpid vortex]

those games basically came with a console game system from -naughty dog... -fromsoftware makes goth games you might as well be talking about that in a different channel, and -insomniac is doing the same thing EA is doing except with games everyone is just going to leave a positive review on. Those are... game collector games, people just buy them like pokemon cards.

So you're either going to watch Doc Disrespect and be part of the champions club playing tarkov because he's getting more respect for playing a unity game with crispy textures, or you're going to be paid to watch Tim the Tatman get ganked and paid for it by hackers in warzone, but what else are you going to do?

battlefield 2042 is just the better game, if you see people asking if they should pick up battlefield because it's on sale on steam, it's because every other game, especially on steam, is garbage. And tarkov plays like tactical intervention, remember when counter-strike devs branched out and made a new game. oh man.

[hardy leaf]

dfaq

[torpid vortex]

harder to play a respawn game than it is to login on battlefield right now. I didn't pick up a single titanfall title that game looked 100% artsy and the mechanics were overselling the titan . Respawn doesn't have any clout on making a game like Dice. Every single title from them has been sub par with art.

[pine roost]

...

It’s literally got TITAN in the name

It’s a fairly integral part of the game

And even if you don’t like them, just play PvP

[torpid vortex]

exactly hu hu hu Titan Fall get it Titanfall

[strange widget]

bro i laughed at this, thx

[hardy leaf]

bro i respect your opinion but i aint reading all that

[torpid vortex]

what was left of the call of duty scene couldn't play titanfall don't talk about titanfall like it was EVEN A GAME.

[strange widget]

it was a game

[torpid vortex]

no it was garbage, titanfall was garbage.

[strange widget]

on what basis

[pine roost]

I’d consider it the best and most fun fps I’ve ever played

[torpid vortex]

still is, people didn't like titanfall. didn't like titanfall 2

[strange widget]

very little

youre the first person ive met actually who doesnt like it

[pine roost]

Tf2 has the most dedicated fan base I’ve ever seen

And the lore behind the community itself is actually very interesting

[strange widget]

fighting for the frontier babie, lesgooooo

[pine roost]

The guy who voiced Kuben Blisk also voiced Vander in arcane which is a nice factoid

[torpid vortex]

like the actual competitive players didn't like the game, so they are made up of like speedrunners and less coordinated casual players who like weird titanfall stuff?

[strange widget]

like who

guess i like "weird" titanfall stuff

[pine roost]

I’m assuming he means the Titans

[strange widget]

ngl man a lot of your arguement is wishy washy, need some concrete stuff

just because a "competitive" player doesnt like the game doesnt mean his opinion supersedes the opinion of casual players

[hardy leaf]

is tf2 multiplayer still alive?

[strange widget]

barely

[still vault]

@torpid vortex that doesn't belong on here

[torpid vortex]

didn't insult him so i think it doesn't matter what you think about that. Talking about off topic he shouldn't be talking about titanfall.

[hardy leaf]

i second this

[strange widget]

me too

[still vault]

The Titanfall talk should move to #other-games and any kind of racism talk stop right now.

[pine roost]

If you want to carry on discussing titanfall let’s head into another channel

[hardy leaf]

i dont give two shits about titanfall, lets stay here lol

[strange widget]

i mean not like anyones actually botheres about 2042 at this point anyway

[hardy leaf]

i just want to know if there will be a new battlefield game that can be my home for the coming years

[daring pawn]

Ngl the only reason I still have the game is because Im holding out till season 1

[still vault]

Just waiting for season 1 🙂

[whole plume]

It's ok to cry

[daring pawn]

If season 1 is bad, I’m done with this game

[hardy leaf]

how much season 1 costs for early access?

[still vault]

I dunno. Gotta wait for the announcement.

[whole plume]

The weekly challenges are a snooze fest imo

[strange widget]

probs 15

[hardy leaf]

5$ for 7 day early access i guess

[pine roost]

Why would there be early access to season 1?

[hardy leaf]

same reason why there was early access for the game

[pine roost]

I’ve never seen an early access to an update before

[hardy leaf]

well the new specialists might be available 7 days earlier for those who pay extra

[still vault]

All just speculation at this point.

[hardy leaf]

in r6 siege every season, new ops were released to the season pass owners 7 days before

[pine roost]

Well it’s EA, I wouldn’t dismiss the thought. But I don’t think it’ll work like that

[karmic void]

Where’s the game news or #direct-communication

[arctic grove]

i come in here and see this

[strange widget]

2042 talk is stale

TF2 is superior

[arctic grove]

apex is shit tho

the game 2042 desperately imitates

[strange widget]

TF2

not apex

[glossy storm]

Has EA/DICE officially announced when S1 content will be released, or is the March 3 date just based on datamined stuff?

[arctic grove]

nah not a single thing said

[next isle]

No news

[arctic grove]

radio silence haha

[strange widget]

enjoying their christmas holidays

[arctic grove]

they are enjoying their new years holidays smh

[strange widget]

nah man winter holidays

[arctic grove]

but guys the players are the toxic ones right

[strange widget]

i openly admit my toxcisity

[arctic grove]

ea and dice are such innocent victims

they definitely arent the toxic ones in comparison

[strange widget]

i mean its not unreasonable that im complaining about a game they thought was £60 which i paid for

could have bought 3 indie games and enjoyed

[arctic grove]

no no you were scammed

you have to play this game now

[grizzled whale]

but you chose not to, so whos to blame

[strange widget]

me

but is it right that i should play a game to get my moneys worth and not because i enjoy it?

[grizzled whale]

nobody is forcing you to play it

[arctic grove]

i mean ea and dice are to blame too for lying about their game and charging 60£ for this game of abysmal quality ("next gen")

[strange widget]

i know but dont wanna feel like i bopped some money for no reason

[grizzled whale]

disagree, EA is to blame for forcing a release that dice knew wasnt ready

[grizzled whale]

thats life, some time you spend money on something you dont like

[arctic grove]

oh here we go again victimizing dice

dice are every bit to blame for this

[grizzled whale]

you could have waited a week and decided not to buy it

[strange widget]

i bought it on the basis content would come regularly

[arctic grove]

you know that dice management are the ones mainly responsible for this right?

[grizzled whale]

not really, they wanted (read expected) another year of development time but were forced to release early, so how are they to blame

[strange widget]

wasnt really a case of waiting a week

[flat tusk]

Been playing a lot of R6 extraction recently untill they decide to fix this game

[reef kestrel]

[grizzled whale]

i wanted to get every weapon T1 but even getting the pistols to mastery 12 in bot lobbies made me suicidal

so thats not gonna happen anymore lol

especially the m44

[reef kestrel]

You can become top #1 in BF2042

[grizzled whale]

im already #1 in playtime in my country

[strange widget]

angel does it again!

[reef kestrel]

You can pretend to your friend you're a top players in BF2042.

[grizzled whale]

and #28 in playtime globaly

[reef kestrel]

Maybe during your interview. You worked "hard" on BF2042 and got top #10

[deft crow]

Did I go too far?

Paik 2021

And 22

[grizzled whale]

i just want a stat page

[strange widget]

i just want a good game

[reef kestrel]

Good game in 2022 is rare now.

Dev think game good.
Publisher think game good.

Players : Game is trash give my money back.

[grizzled whale]

players: cry because its not a carbon copy of BF3-4

[reef kestrel]

Just release a BF2042 with BF3-4 core design.

Ofc innovate the gameplay (gunplay) bring something that blow our mind.

Following Trend is only for delusional developer.

[arctic grove]

no one wants a carbon copy of bf3/4

all the community asked for was bfv with the modern theme

best of both worlds

[grizzled whale]

which is BF3-4

[reef kestrel]

More like commander and squad system from BF2.

Gameplay of BF1-BFV.

Set in modern/future era a prequel of BF2142.
Dark story and no clown quip.
New tech, and improvement in LEVOLUTION. etc.. etc..

[slender badger]

Game crashing on ps5 ???

[arctic grove]

why reinvent the wheel when you have already perfected the formula over the years?

[strange widget]

i asked for a cure to my deppresion

[grizzled whale]

because people will complain the games are all the same, but as soon as you change something aka specialists they riot

[reef kestrel]

They had a opportunity to make good game after BFV controversy.

BUT NO! LET FUCKING FOLLOW THE TREND.

[arctic grove]

especially considering bfv had utterly perfected the gameplay

all thats left is further refinement and matching the modern theme and it would have been an instant classic

[blazing forum]

Hi guys, since 3.2 patch i have lot of white flash when weapons swaping and the game crash after each end game (conquest 128). Unplayabale fps drop (45-110fps with 3080Ti in 2k res, all setting at low) in conquest 128 PC only and worst in cross game. Do you have sames issues ?

[strange widget]

[dusky token]

[grizzled whale]

45fps "unplayable"

[strange widget]

DONT BE SAD

[dusky token]

This is just how it works out sometimes

[strange widget]

[grizzled whale]

mackay>angel

[blazing forum]

is not 45 fps "unplayable" but the drop 110 to 45 make this unplayable

[grizzled whale]

whats your cpu

[reef kestrel]

30 fps must be stuck in 2006

[blazing forum]

Ryzen 5900X

i don't have this kind of issue before 3.2.

[reef kestrel]

Forgot they didn't optimize the game yet

[still vault]

I do have drops when a lot is happening but no crashes - 3080ti @ 2k as well

[dusky token]

There is a game to optimize?

[blazing forum]

And about white flash when swaping weapons ?

[still vault]

No flashing

[blazing forum]

ok, thx it's my concern only in that case, i looking in my side then.

[strange widget]

dont be sad

[dusky token]

Idk what the community is talking about lately lol, dice hasn't made a new battlefield game yet, the lastest is still bf5

[reef kestrel]

tru

BF2042 is just a f2p game from a indie studio

[dusky token]

2042 is actually apex legends 2042 but with a battlefield skin lol

[still vault]

I had some stuttering / crashes which was caused by Easy Anti Cheat at one point but wasn't connected to any single patch.

[blazing forum]

Actually you can play to Ghost Recon Frontline "closed" (open widely in fact) beta if you want to try a mix warzeone/fortnite/apex BR monster, Ubi in da place 😉

[dusky token]

Is dice on their holiday still?

[reef kestrel]

lol

[blazing forum]

How you know it's directly caused by EAC ?

[dusky token]

Where did dice go btw from this discord they used to be here

[arctic grove]

they are hiding

[still vault]

Had an error message in the Windows Event Viewer every 5 minutes causing a large stutter + a similar error when the crash happened.

[random pollen]

They are working hard

Or not

[still vault]

Just stop with the toxic behavior already. Read the pins and the rules.

[arctic grove]

how is this toxic behavior

???? what

[blazing forum]

You know if EA/Dice have a report issue function ? Like we have on github issue...

[still vault]

Just read the pins:

[arctic grove]

because that was being negative hmmm

[still vault]

Yes: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/battlefield-2042-bug-reports-en

[dusky token]

Ahh sorry I guess I'll go to redit

[arctic grove]

giving the game a different name = negativity

[random pollen]

There s only a month to sort a scoreboard, lot of work

[reef kestrel]

Twitter or Reddit.

[blazing forum]

Thx Carbonic for your answers and advice.

[dusky token]

Yeah, that's where we can share our opinions for real

[still vault]

I take the chat history into account. Now stop making this about my moderation. If you have any issue with that take it up with @clear spade

[still vault]

No problem 🙂

[dusky token]

Don't be sad, this is just how to works out sometimes

Hey mod, is memes allowed here or no?

[arctic grove]

should be

but then again be very careful

[dusky token]

I love your name fine sir

[still vault]

Sure they are

[arctic grove]

memes can be interpreted as negativity

[uncut musk]

🤣🤣

[dusky token]

Boys, we know what to do

[uncut musk]

Is the 64 player mode really temporary

[still vault]

If that is the only thing you get out of reading the pins you have missed the point entirely.

[uncut musk]

Or is it coming fulltime

[arctic grove]

I like that the whole bf2042 playerbase meet up to play. Very cool

[uncut musk]

Wait what

[still vault]

Have not heard of it being anything other than temporary, but I would not rule it out.

[uncut musk]

Because that would be very very nice

Feels like you can get more kills there and progress faster

[arctic grove]

why did they take this long for such a half-baked scoreboard?

they can just add back in the scoreboard thats been in every battlefield with kills, deaths and assists right?

[random pollen]

Spread your bf2042 positivity please

[dusky token]

Hey man I'm positive

[arctic grove]

positivity and sugarcoating galore

[dusky token]

Why am I getting removed, I'm legit positive

[random pollen]

Oh yeah keep it up

[arctic grove]

spread your positivity guys

[uncut musk]

Or a 64 rush mode ??

[dusky token]

So being positive about the game is worth getting ur comments removed then huh

[uncut musk]

That would be fine awesome as permanent mode

[random pollen]

I should pre order again to show my positivity and support for this game

[civic ginkgo]

Whats the craic people

[arctic grove]

if only dice werent so disconnected from the community

[dusky token]

Man I'm gonna pre order on PC too and ps5

[arctic grove]

apparently 128 players is the greatest thing ever

[dusky token]

I've never had so much fun before tbh I love 2042

Ikr 128 players is amasing, had a blast playing it, the game plays so smooth

[uncut musk]

Perhaps it is going in sale soon ?

[civic ginkgo]

Any1 else have issues joining into xbox series x servers?

[uncut musk]

Agreed

No fps issues what so ever on my Xbox series x

[random pollen]

No issues at all

Never

[uncut musk]

Sometimes graphical glitch. But no lag or delay

[civic ginkgo]

Took me 20 mins couldn't get a game, now my speed and ping are fine

[uncut musk]

Server wise/performance wise very good

[random pollen]

Everything running well on my 4k $ rig

Why do u complain?

[uncut musk]

Pff pc gaming to expensive. And yes can afford it but for the games i play not pc necessary

[arctic grove]

Strike at Karkand? Wake Island? Bf2042 maps are waaay better. They are so good that i can't decide which one is the best

[uncut musk]

Pacific maps !!! Yesssss

That would be veryyy awesome

[reef kestrel]

ngl, bf2042 is the best game of the year.

[civic ginkgo]

Whats everyones fav map, mine is hourglass and breakaway

[limber garden]

I feel like i can't decide which one i hate less

[random pollen]

Breakaway best map ever, US side is soooo… white

[arctic grove]

speed?

[still vault]

I do like the Pacific maps from BFV and would be kinda cool seeing them in 2042 ngl 🙂

[arctic grove]

the map is aids

[uncut musk]

Yea exactly

[arctic grove]

just when bfv started to get really good they dropped it to make 2042

its like they deliberately killed bfv support to make bf2042 as mtx friendly as possible and to force an exodus

[limber garden]

Anyone have issue with scatter nades? Sometimes they just don't blow up for me

[strange widget]

best map is dont be sad

[still vault]

Nothing strange there. Devs typically get better the farther in you get but at some point you have to stop making content

[arctic grove]

with how 2042 turned out though

[arctic grove]

they had dlc planned at the time and then ea abruptly dropped support

[strange widget]

bf5 ded

[arctic grove]

i think the eastern front was one of them

[arctic grove]

its actually more alive than 2042 believe it or not

[strange widget]

i know and it makes me sad

[arctic grove]

i can only dream of them dropping the dlc

[naive quiver]

I find it funny that everyone says the game is dead but the game is still running 😂😂😂

[strange widget]

crawling*

[still vault]

Many game companies have big plans that then gets changed if the beginning is not as well received as espected. Just like some games get more DLC/content planned than originally estimated due to better than expected receival buy the gamers.

It's not really different than any other fields

[naive quiver]

Don't imagine, see with your eyes

[strange widget]

its genuinely hard to find full player lobbies

[arctic grove]

the game has barely 7k players on steam just 2 months after release, isnt even in the top 50 on xbox and is #36 on playstation

if thats not dead by AAA standards then i dont know what is

[strange widget]

isnt hell let loose more popular lol

[naive quiver]

Well , how about without steam ? Does it count ?

[arctic grove]

did you even read my whole message?

i said not even top 50 on xbox

and only #36 on playstation

[naive quiver]

Not even top 100 on steam

[arctic grove]

yes

[naive quiver]

But not everyone is using steam right ?

[arctic grove]

it peaked at 100k players on steam and is now at a pitiful 7k

[arctic grove]

steam players automatically count as origin

so it wont make any difference

[strange widget]

what is your point i dont undserstand

this game is failing and even EA said its dissapointing

[arctic grove]

they are considering making the game f2p to some degree lmao

thats how bad the game is doing

[foggy crest]

7k is too much avg is 4k which can go lowest to 3134 on steam

[arctic grove]

further cementing my point

[naive quiver]

You mean I didn't buy the game on steam and it counts as well ?

[arctic grove]

what???

[strange widget]

i think we need to explain it to them even further

[arctic grove]

im genuinely confused

[strange widget]

hui is saying that steam doesnt equate for the whole player base even though weve provided data across the 3 most popular platforms

[naive quiver]

I buy it on origin and then use origin to run the game , so does it counts on steam chart ?

[foggy crest]

BF2042 is not popular in twitch either only 500 people watching it , makes me sad

[strange widget]

no

[fiery zenith]

this is how their last paid stream went lol https://www.twitch.tv/crown/clip/FurryCleanPlumageDancingBanana--Udmt1AONTeIb4qm

[naive quiver]

😂😂 That proves that the number of people on steam is not all the number of people for battlefield 2042

[novel raptor]

Battlefield 2042 has 4k players on steam right now, Battlefield V has 18k players on steam right now. I think it's safe to say BF2042 isn't performing well.

[strange widget]

would you agree most people used steam to buy 2042, if we did have data to incorporate orgin it would only bump it up by like 20%

[steel mango]

REFUND OUR MONEY

[strange widget]

are you seriouusly that disconnected to our arguement here@naive quiver?

[novel raptor]

Even a tiny understanding of statistics. You can generalize the player count difference across platforms, it's probably fairly consistent.

[naive quiver]

Idk , probably yes . I don’t use steam for battlefield 2042

[steel mango]

Battlefield Hardline >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> battleshit 2042

[strange widget]

so you proved nothing

[surreal crystal]

This was funny haha 😂😂

[foggy crest]

[naive quiver]

So how can you prove that this is the total players for battlefield 2042 ? So can’t 100% sure right ?

[novel raptor]

Nobody is claiming its the total player count oml-

[strange widget]

i cant, but the majority of players use steam, shall we use the benefit of the doubt and say 50%??? okay so then that means the average is at 14k

thats fucking horrible

[arctic grove]

70%

[strange widget]

i said 50 for arguements sake

[arctic grove]

steam is the de facto platform for everything on pc

[steel mango]

Fuck steam

[foggy crest]

STEAM is the best place

[arctic grove]

dude i gave you steam, xbox and playstation player stats

[strange widget]

no dont fuck steam

[arctic grove]

what else do you need?

[hybrid steppe]

The 90% player count drop is across all platforms/stores, there's no reason to assume that the player retention would be any different than what it shows on Steam.

[arctic grove]

origin players dont make up a big portion of the player base

[novel raptor]

Exactly

[arctic grove]

and steam players automatically count as origin players

[elfin flame]

Industry standard for DLC after a games release is 30-45 days, we're now 10 weeks (70+ days) after launch without even a tease at what the future holds for Battlefield 2042.

Brutal Expectations.

[arctic grove]

its just a coping mechanism

[strange widget]

having to explain everything is hard work

[arctic grove]

there is no reason to believe that steam player counts arent indicative of the whole games trajectory

[strange widget]

so lets all agree were all clowns for buying this game

[elfin flame]

Agreed.

[arctic grove]

jokes on you i already refunded it

but yes we are clowns for even daring to believe dice and ea

[novel raptor]

BFV on steam: 18k players. BF2042 on steam: 4k players. Servers are filled with bots right now, I like this game and even I can admit that it's dead and performing way worse than the previous title atm.

[strange widget]

i wish i wasnt so hopeful and refunded it too

[slim quiver]

Some people like the game

[arctic grove]

and thats ok

[slim quiver]

So you can’t really discredit their experience

[arctic grove]

no one said you shouldnt enjoy it

[rugged citrus]

only ea, ea is to blame for the games state, EA were the people calling the shots and forcing specialists and limiting creativity

EA rushed the game for christmas sales

[arctic grove]

*dice management

[strange widget]

yeah i didnt say dont enjoy it, i am honestly happy for those that enjoy the 2042 experiance

[rugged citrus]

yeah, the execs and those guys calling the shots, not the devs

[slim quiver]

Devs weren’t at fault but they get all the heat

[rugged citrus]

an art director was personally attacked for the state of the game wth man

[strange widget]

but for a lot of us this is just brutal murder of the BF franchise

[surreal crystal]

Its not just heat its heat 2 right here

[hybrid steppe]

The player count across all platforms at this moment is likely at 25k players since Steam numbers are around 15% of the player count

25.000 * 0.15 = 3750 so roughly the numbers we see now.

[slim quiver]

And it’s the communities fault for targeting the devs lol

[arctic grove]

i mean you cant excuse the horribly cluttered and bloated ui

[foggy crest]

about steam last time this game was around 7800 was on jan 23 🥲 after that it was around 5000-3000

[arctic grove]

thats completely on whoever is in charge of the ui

[elfin flame]

These numbers don't lie. The game has pretty much lost 95% of its playerbase.

[slim quiver]

We don’t really know that

We just know the steam metric

[surreal crystal]

Nice defence

[arctic grove]

steam isnt indicative of the whole player base!!!! liar!!!! /s

[strange widget]

we do

[slim quiver]

Oh we do?

[arctic grove]

xbox and playstation player counts are public

[strange widget]

do we

[glossy storm]

I watched Tom's video and IIRC, he said that there were budget issues, especially in the UI/UX department.

[slim quiver]

Okay show me the Xbox, PlayStation and origin numbers and last gen

[arctic grove]

the game isnt in the top 50 on xbox

[slim quiver]

I’ll wait

[arctic grove]

and is only #36 on playstation

[elfin flame]

So? They are percentages. I don't think there would be a massive difference in player retention between platforms.

[slim quiver]

I want to start seeing some sources

[strange widget]

my friend @arctic grove has le data

[surreal crystal]

El plan

[slim quiver]

Okay cattlefield let’s see these sources

[foggy crest]

which one is on number 1 on ps last of us part 2 ?

[strange widget]

el blan

[glossy storm]

I mean, EA is dissatisfied with the game's performance. Isn't that a good enough evidence?

[surreal crystal]

S🅱️in

[strange widget]

ferrari master blan

[surreal crystal]

Fellow f1 enjoyer ??

[rugged citrus]

dissatisfied when they literally tried everything they could to not listen to the community

[strange widget]

fellow latifi fan boy???

[surreal crystal]

Its goatifi

[arctic grove]

fortnite is #1, rust is #2 and gta is #3

[strange widget]

im sorry goatifi

[foggy crest]

zzzy wants the source

[elfin flame]

https://steamcharts.com/app/1517290

Saying that "oh, it's only Steam numbers" would be disingenuous to say the least. If we were talking overall player numbers, then yes, that would apply. But we are talking about percentages. If 95% of players on Steam decided to stop playing the game, it would be safe to assume that 95% of players on Origin are doing the same.

[surreal crystal]

Haha i like Vettel

[arctic grove]

https://ps-timetracker.com/statistic/last-30-days

[strange widget]

checo😩

[arctic grove]

its the closest thing available to player counts on ps

[slim quiver]

Is this a third party site?

Or an official PlayStation release

[surreal crystal]

Checo is super gooood man

[arctic grove]

yes its third party, there is no way sony would publicize player counts

[novel raptor]

Exactly, I don't know why people are arguing the contrary.

[shy bronze]

So it’s not official

[strange widget]

damn f1 is higher, happy moment

[slim quiver]

Because all third party trackers say they’re ballparking and to never take it as 100%, accurate

[surreal crystal]

[elfin flame]

Unless there is this massive difference in culture between the Steam users and Origin users (which there isn't, they are both on PC), 95% would likely count across the board. @slim quiver

[hybrid steppe]

You really expect 1st party to release numbers that could hurt their bottom line?????

[slim quiver]

That’s because they never publicize it lmao

[slim quiver]

They don’t even release good numbers

All they release is sales figures

[surreal crystal]

Its fine u can defend the game lol.

[foggy crest]

sony has no balls

[slim quiver]

Xbox also I believe doesn’t show anything

[arctic grove]

never said its official

[elfin flame]

Nope, but it does show you the most played games in a top 50 list.

[strange widget]

its the best we have

[slim quiver]

You’d be surprised though

[elfin flame]

And guess who isn't on that top 50 list~

[slim quiver]

People could be on EA play pro

They could have bought it on origin because it was 10% off

[elfin flame]

EA Play Pro is also on Steam.

[slim quiver]

For all ea play

[slim quiver]

Ea play is

[surreal crystal]

Haha

[slim quiver]

Not pro

[surreal crystal]

Damn !!

[foggy crest]

also on epic that 10$ coupan was also a thing this year too

👀

[slim quiver]

Pro is an origin subscription that makes BF2042 basically free to access as long as you pay subs

[arctic grove]

however xbox does have an official indication of player counts

[slim quiver]

Yea

[hybrid steppe]

If you think EA Play Pro would make any marginal difference, you are grasping at straws.

[elfin flame]

Fair enough, but that doesn't mean anything for player retention, only sales numbers.

[foggy crest]

can u show me

[strange widget]

imagine putting "employee at EA" in your bio

[slim quiver]

I’m saying it makes a difference

[arctic grove]

go onto the microsoft store and sort by most played

[slim quiver]

All of these little things make a difference

[hybrid steppe]

Wow 5 extra players, such difference

[slim quiver]

I mean that’s an exaggeration

More than 5 people use that device

[arctic grove]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/most-played/games/xbox

bf2042 doesnt even break into the top 50

[surreal crystal]

Haha !! Beautiful defence going on for this game love it

[novel raptor]

Okay guys I think we got player count on complaint bingo over with. Someone bring another complaint up.

[slim quiver]

Defending facts is not defending the game

[elfin flame]

There are more people playing Battlefront 2 than Battlefield 2042!

[foggy crest]

and people say WARZONE is dead 🥲

[surreal crystal]

Yeah sure wat ever

[slim quiver]

I know people just want any sort of possible bad news for the game to be true

[arctic grove]

anyone who does is delusional

the game isnt dead lmfao

[foggy crest]

HATER

[slim quiver]

They’re just dying to see so many bad things happen

[hybrid steppe]

He said the Bingo thing everyone, debate is over.

[slim quiver]

Which is the most disingenuous thing imaginable

[strange widget]

i just want a good battlefield game man

[slim quiver]

There are good BF games

[surreal crystal]

Same man 😞

[slim quiver]

The servers are still up

[foggy crest]

i told one guy entire BF franchise player base total doest come any close to warzone player base when he said warzone is dead

[slim quiver]

Play them

[arctic grove]

thats true

warzone is a f2p behemoth

[novel raptor]

Argument settled

[arctic grove]

doesnt mean the game is good but its VERY populated

[strange widget]

he has spoken

[slim quiver]

what argument is settled?

[surreal crystal]

It doesn’t mean that this game can be bad tats not how it works lol

[slim quiver]

BFV has more steam players right now than 2042

[arctic grove]

thanks for spitting fax

[novel raptor]

Idk I just like watching people fight

[elfin flame]

Reminder that Battlefield V didn't launch on Steam. It was only put on there two years after release.

[arctic grove]

this is peak time too

[strange widget]

ban ban ban

[slim quiver]

yes we know when it released

[arctic grove]

in europe at least

[elfin flame]

So Battlefield V has even less reason to have more players on Steam.

[slim quiver]

what?

[elfin flame]

And yet it does.

[slim quiver]

if the game is bad, its bad

saying "this game cant be bad" doesnt make sense

[arctic grove]

tell that to the people relentlessly defending the game

[slim quiver]

bad games get released all the time

[foggy crest]

in this list i dont see bf2042 where is it ?

[slim quiver]

because they like the game

[strange widget]

yeah like 2042

[arctic grove]

exactly

[slim quiver]

they have a right to defend it

[surreal crystal]

Saying to play the old games coz the new one is bad is not right too

[slim quiver]

you realize all of this is subjective

[novel raptor]

I like the game, and I like shitting on it.

[slim quiver]

yes it is

[arctic grove]

thats the point: its not in the top 50 most played games on xbox

[strange widget]

chad

[arctic grove]

its not a bug, its real

[slim quiver]

if playing the old games is not the answer, then play a different game

[foggy crest]

even vanguard a game that got hated when rumour started its ww2 game is on the list 🥲

[slim quiver]

i mean Vanguard is really fun

ii play vanguard pretty frequently

[arctic grove]

and i think this is like one of the worst selling cods ever lol

[foggy crest]

people only say one thing its trash its $hit its garbage

[arctic grove]

the beta gave me an aneurism

[foggy crest]

🤣

[arctic grove]

seriously i felt like my wellbeing spiraled down to oblivion

it was so frustrating

[slim quiver]

cool because its cod

[strange widget]

im sorry for offending you all

[slim quiver]

either way vanguard ive been having a lot of fun in

[foggy crest]

u never offended me man

[arctic grove]

its probably a lot of fun when it works

[slim quiver]

it works all the time for me

so it hasnt ever not worked

[foggy crest]

it works it just works dude

[arctic grove]

at least the devs actually released season 1 LOL

[novel raptor]

I was gonna buy vanguard but its on that activison launcher thing that I dont wanna have to install so-

[elfin flame]

I know that the game could be better. I know the game can be better. However the communication with DICE has been shoddy to say the least and we have literally no clue what the future of the game holds aside from "4 new specialists" and "4 battle passes".

[arctic grove]

we are here in february and dice havent said a word about content

like what????

[slim quiver]

thats because the season 1 starts in march

why would they talk about it now

[arctic grove]

thats the problem

[foggy crest]

battlenet is better than origin atleast 🥲

[slim quiver]

let me ask you this

[foggy crest]

and also ea desktop

[slim quiver]

do you guys still play 2042?

[surreal crystal]

Tf is this EA desktop ??

[arctic grove]

no

[surreal crystal]

Yup

[slim quiver]

then how are you this invested in it?

[novel raptor]

Yes I have 135 hours

And I still shit on it

[foggy crest]

another ea origin thing

[elfin flame]

Because all previous Battlefield games showed expected content at least three months in advance.

[arctic grove]

because i want to see the future of it

[surreal crystal]

Damn !!

[obsidian sigil]

It is an newer launcher for EA focused game... really annoying imo

[slim quiver]

youre not doing yourself any favors

[hybrid steppe]

At this point we already got China Rising and were just about to get Second Assault in Battlefield 4.

[arctic grove]

but at this point its just entertaining to see the shitshow snowball get bigger and bigger

[surreal crystal]

I will check it out. Haven’t tried it yet

[obsidian sigil]

I don't want to have 5 different launchers downloaded but sadly these days you have to

[slim quiver]

anyone whos talking massive shit about how bad it is and still playing daily is not doing themselves any favors

its playing forcing yourself to not have fun

[arctic grove]

because there is a chance i might buy it again if it actually becomes good

[hybrid steppe]

I already uninstalled a month ago. And now I just want this franchise to collapse and burn and see a new franchise from another studio to fill the market vacuum.

[slim quiver]

at this point BF4 still wasnt fully fixed

[novel raptor]

Well I mean I like the core gameplay I'm just fed up with the bugs, hopefully the February patch will fix smart grenades.

[slim quiver]

since it took 6 months to a year just to get off the ground for everything to be fixed

[surreal crystal]

Playing the game and pointing out bad stuff good…. “Its not us doing any favour to ourselves”

[arctic grove]

and it wasnt even dice stockholm

[novel raptor]

Day 34 of asking DICE to fix smart grenades.

[slim quiver]

well then keep waiting

[snow river]

That ain't happening my friend. There is nothing that can do battlefield better than well battlefield

[slim quiver]

no use in complaining about it here tbh

[obsidian sigil]

Well now i feel attacked, i always talk shit about my job but i still gotta do my job... it indeed kills the fun of having a job... zzzy is right 👀

[slim quiver]

time is going to move by slower

[elder patrol]

I have big booboo on arm

[elfin flame]

@slim quiver Battlefield 4 announced all DLC of the game and expected release dates for these DLC a month after launch. Battlefield 1 did the same including major updates, Battlefield V gave us three months of four months of content starting at December and ending in March and Battlefield 2042 has literally nothing aside from "Hey, look! Here's a scoreboard!"

[slim quiver]

playing something you hate every day is a waste of time

[arctic grove]

stockholm syndrome (no pun intended)

[surreal crystal]

Who said i am hating… pointing out facts is not hating

[elfin flame]

HA!

[slim quiver]

you play video games theyre for fun

[hybrid steppe]

At this point yes there is. 2042 has proved that they have dropped the ball and have become incompetent at making it themselves.

[slim quiver]

if you wake up everyday

and say

"i hate this fucking game"

"its not fun"

and then you play it for 12 hours

[arctic grove]

at this point 2042 is becoming a comedy show

[slim quiver]

you either like the game

[novel raptor]

omg me

[arctic grove]

considering how ironic everything is

[slim quiver]

or you hate yourself and your time

[elfin flame]

Dude I'm trying to get my 60 euros worth here.

[surreal crystal]

Lol ok

[obsidian sigil]

Again that is me with work not with this game tho lmao

[foggy crest]

kanna 🤣

[slim quiver]

how many hours do you have

[arctic grove]

alpha mentality

[novel raptor]

Im that picture in #general

[slim quiver]

no amount of waste of time is worth the price of 60 euros

[arctic grove]

getting your moneys worth is the only logical course of action

[slim quiver]

i could earn 60 euros in a few hours of work

[elfin flame]

57 hours. Almost at the 1 euro for each hour I spent.

[slim quiver]

and how many hours have you hated the game

[arctic grove]

more than i played the game

im not even gonna hide it

[snow river]

That doesn't mean that there are other studios out there that can recreate the experience. It just means that dice are no longer capable of producing a good game

[elfin flame]

I wouldn't say hate, but the time I was displeased with the quality and lack of quantity of content? Every hour past the 10 hour mark.

[graceful hatch]

see everyones still saying 2042 is bad and the devs are still doing not a lot to change anyones opinion lol

[elfin flame]

Go play Pokémon Legends Arceus by the way. It's fun~

[hybrid steppe]

Tell me, what systems of Battlefield are so unique to it that they couldn't be done by another studio with another (and at this stage) better engine?

[arctic grove]

they are sometimes doing the opposite lol

[slim quiver]

a movie ticket btw in america is 12 dollars. thats 10.75 euros. a movie is about 90-100 minutes. so 1 hr and 40 minutes. 5x 1.4 = 7 hours.

[arctic grove]

just piling on the snowball

this could be a bigger pr nightmare than bfv if you ask me

[slim quiver]

other things have value

[elfin flame]

A: Americans are getting fucking scammed.
B: I'll watch it once it comes out on Netflix or some shit.

[slim quiver]

i mean a cinema is an experience

you experience the movies

[arctic grove]

thats true

[elfin flame]

That's true.

[novel raptor]

Idk frostbite is pretty unique in its ability to kill every game it touches. Pretty renderer tho

[slim quiver]

its different than sitting on a couch watching a 38 inch screen

with normal sound

a cinema you go with friends

[surreal crystal]

Wow

[graceful hatch]

2042 has been.......... an experience lol

[slim quiver]

you sit in comfortable chairs

[foggy crest]

zzzy u want samsung wall ?

[arctic grove]

i will take my sofa

[slim quiver]

games are experiences

[novel raptor]

Like creation engine kills every game it touches too, but it doesnt even look good while doing it.

[elfin flame]

So the value of the my experience playing BF2042 should be lower?

[arctic grove]

very comfortable indeed

[slim quiver]

50 hours lower

because 60 euros or 60 dollars

can also be earned in a few hours

[surreal crystal]

Haha

[wicked flint]

lool

[slim quiver]

even at minimum wage

which is like 10 an hour here i think

6 hours and you're at 60, 7-8 hours and you're at 60 after taxes

[arctic grove]

the creation engine is an ancient relic of embarassment bethesda are lazy to replace

[hybrid steppe]

Yup visuals are the only thing Frostbite has going for it. And that aspect is also getting surpassed by for example Unreal Engine 5. And Frostbite gets no points with programming because it is according to reports, an absolute nightmare.

[surreal crystal]

Ironic name right

[graceful hatch]

i get like $18US/hour or something and honestly its pretty crap lol

[arctic grove]

ironic indeed

[obsidian sigil]

12 dollars (10,75 euro) is actually a normal cinema price, in my country you pay 11 euro for a cinema as well

[glossy storm]

A BF game on UE could be cool, NGL.

[surreal crystal]

Eyooo

[slim quiver]

My whole point at the end of all this: your time is more valuable than 60 euros/dollars. Enjoy the free time that you have, wasting time to get to 60 hours so its 1 dollar an hour is not worth it, save yourself the pain and play something else

and if you truly dont like a game

why are you increasing the player metric?

[arctic grove]

ideally: a refund

[foggy crest]

yeah man i know starfield will not be an insane looking game but still i know it will be insane experience even fallout 76 has more players on steam 🥲

[novel raptor]

Literally why would I get a job

[snow river]

Still to this day i have never seen a studio capable of combining good gunplay destruction and map design as well as overall aesthetic as good as dice did till 2016. Don't get me wrong there are studios that could create a decent experience but i don't think there is any that can combine all the above. And to be honest it took dice a lot of years to master the formula (and then a lot less to ruin it).

[slim quiver]

by you hating the game and still playing the game? all you're doing is saying "they can make something i dont like and still get me to play it"

[arctic grove]

side note: kanna kamui is fucking great

[elfin flame]

Ah yes, because that has any effect considering the game currently only has 4666 people playing it on Steam.

[surreal crystal]

Play the old games… even if u like 2042 and is critical about it “u r just hating”

[novel raptor]

I have an admission. I didn't preorder BF2042, I saw all the bad reviews and bought it anyways.

[slim quiver]

not just you, but think about how many people use the same mindset as you

[arctic grove]

kobayashis dragon maid has such a good artstyle

[elfin flame]

Agreed.

[slim quiver]

so you're multiplying

[slim quiver]

to earn money

[arctic grove]

kanna is such a good character, actually everyone is

[elfin flame]

I had the name Kanna before Dragon Maid ever came out.

[foggy crest]

kanna is in k on

[arctic grove]

*dragon maid

[graceful hatch]

ngl i wonder where ur expectations have to be to defend 2042. i genuinely wanted it to be a good game but its just outright not and i cant understand why so many people jump to make excuses for the state of this game

[foggy crest]

ohhhh

[novel raptor]

DICE needs money for their next mirrors edge so I bought 2042

[arctic grove]

im having a blast watching gintama and dragon maid rn

[hybrid steppe]

Which is why I'm hopping for a passing of torch to some studio who can. If Battlefield is to continue DICE clearly isn't capable of handling it anymore. Perhaps the IP should be given completely to Ripple Effect and have Respawn as secondary studio.

[novel raptor]

Thats how im going to rationalize my decision

[elfin flame]

https://invest-in.schlattco.in/i/bf9kw.png Boop.

[foggy crest]

i loved the artstyle of spiderman into the spiderverse havent seen anything more insane than that

[elfin flame]

Had that name all the way since 2011.

[graceful hatch]

yeah EA is really broke mate and they desperately need ur money to fund their next game lol

[novel raptor]

Exactly

[slim quiver]

people make "excuses" because in reality, people keep talking shit about a game they no longer play or should stop playing all together

it just gets old seeing the same shit over and over and over

[surreal crystal]

[graceful hatch]

u have the air of the cope about u sir, my sympathies

[elfin flame]

Probably because we know the game can be better and we want it to be better?

There is a decent game underneath all the shit.

[foggy crest]

BECOME HOPE

[hybrid steppe]

I wouldn't get hopes up in that either seeing how much of a downgrade Catalyst was over the original.

[slim quiver]

with the changes people are suggesting this goes beyond scoreboards and shit thats the problem lmao

[surreal crystal]

No it would be that “u r a hater” and u should play old games

[elfin flame]

What are they suggesting? I'll give my opinion on each of those points.

[arctic grove]

thats just the bare minimum

[snow river]

This I totally agree with. To me ripple effect is currently the only studio that seems capable of delivering and managing a battlefield game.

[proud cairn]

No

[arctic grove]

we shouldnt even complain about the scoreboard or voip in the first place

[slim quiver]

if you like the game but bugs and scoreboard are missing, then you already like the game and you will like the game after updates. for others, its the actual game design itself which needs an overhaul, and a overhaul is a big process'

[strange widget]

dont be sad

[slim quiver]

then yeah you're reaching for hope where there is none

[surreal crystal]

Defending the game just for the sake of it and saying people having a valid criticism as haters and suggesting to go play old games… yeah sure

[graceful hatch]

ehhhhh... i have to say i think 2042 is fundamentally flawed at its core and without scrapping it and relaunching the game later on its not going to get "good". it might get better, but at this point were basically discussing the difference between getting stabbed or getting shot and then stabbed lol

[arctic grove]

the art style of kimetsu no yaiba is FUCKING NUTS

[surreal crystal]

Angel moment

[arctic grove]

every fight is literally movie quality

its absurd

[surreal crystal]

Eyo u mean demon slayer right

[arctic grove]

yes

[slim quiver]

Remove specialists, change movement animations, rework the maps and reduce the sizes as well as rework any maps in the making to make them balanced, release more guns, unlock gadgets and make them class specific

[surreal crystal]

I saw the first season it was awesome man

[slim quiver]

its basically asking someone to make a brand new game design

[arctic grove]

the second season is starting to hit its climax and its absolutely insane

[hybrid steppe]

Yup, patching in classes wouldn't work because there isn't enough weapons in the game for classes.

[slim quiver]

people have suggested they release portal weapons into the base game

[arctic grove]

if you havent watched the second season yet: go watch the mugen train movie and watch the entertainment district arc

[slim quiver]

so now that 22 becomes 62

[graceful hatch]

wdym? isnt 12 guns enough for a AAA battlefield game? isnt no new content for the first 6 or so months good enough for a AAA battlefield game?

[slim quiver]

point is, the idea for all these changes to happen to make a good battlefield game is massively unrealistic

[foggy crest]

dont get offended please just saying my opinion its okay i liked the artstyle of citrus , adachi to shimamura , netsuzou , tsuki ga kirei , lie in april , scums wish , love and lies

[slim quiver]

the chance of it happening is 0

[strange widget]

doesnt insurgency have way more

[arctic grove]

lie in april has a really good art style too

[surreal crystal]

Stop being critical to the game guys…. U r just hating it

[elfin flame]

Remove specialists: Yes, 100%
Movement animations: They could definitely be improved
Rework the maps and make them balanced: Just make sure new maps don't suffer from the same issues
More guns: That's par for the course
Make gadgets class specific: Agreed.

[slim quiver]

you can be critical to the game

[foggy crest]

yep

[slim quiver]

and idk why you're trying to mock me Doniv

i dont like the game and havent played it since november 23rd

[arctic grove]

demon slayer has some of the best animation i have seen in a while though

[foggy crest]

movement animations 😂

[strange widget]

bro i wish i liked anime like i did as a kid

[slim quiver]

because i moved on and played other shit without bitching daily

[arctic grove]

they look horrid i 100% agree

[hybrid steppe]

Like all eras? Even the WW2 weapons? Those would be quite out of place. The BF3 weapons and some of the BC2 weapons would likely be the only ones that could work with the time period.

[strange widget]

i can barely start a series now

[elfin flame]

Bro, try to sprint up a flight of stairs.

[arctic grove]

they are that of a f2p chinese knockoff lmfao

[foggy crest]

its soooooooooo bad man sooooooooo bad

[glossy storm]

Is it impossible to use the same movement animations from BFV?

[proud cairn]

Is it just me but the worst thing with bf2042 is just the soundtrack for the game , it is not good.

[surreal crystal]

Bitching daily doesn’t mean people hate the game just for the sake of it… they want it to be improved

[arctic grove]

all we wanted was bfv movement and gunplay copy pasted into this

[slim quiver]

its a video game, the world in this game itself is out of place. Its also a resource war, anything is used. In fact in the middle east conflict there were insurgents using Enfield rifles from WW1

[arctic grove]

with a bf4 theme on top

[slim quiver]

people use whatever they can

[foggy crest]

ok tell me one thing is while sprint soldier use only one hands in the game to carry sniper upward direction ?

[surreal crystal]

But its hating so yeah

[graceful hatch]

100%, honestly at a guess id say well see a situation similar to BFV and to a lesser extent, Anthem. theyll basically put the game on life support for the next 6-12 months, release a couple new guns and maps, release one halfway decent content drop which gives everyone hope they might actually have a clue what theyre doing... and them promptly cancel all further development leaving everyone with a half finished game and the taste of disappointment

[hybrid steppe]

Which is sad since Hildur is otherwise an amazing composer, just listen to Joker or Chernobyl soundtracks.

[elfin flame]

What?

[arctic grove]

the sunken cost fallacy is real

[foggy crest]

sorry read it again

[slim quiver]

the cool thing is

moving on from the game was the best decision i made

[proud cairn]

IKR , their discography is great but the soundtrack is just unbearable noise .

[slim quiver]

havent been salty since

i put maybe 30 hrs into the game

didnt like it and moved on

[proud cairn]

Same , I moved back to Arma 3 and BF4

[slim quiver]

I play bf1 and V

[slim quiver]

and are you happier?

[hybrid steppe]

Only track I would consider good from the ost is the Observation of Beautiful Forms.

[fierce gull]

Idk the soundtrack kinds makes me feel like I'm in the sea

[novel raptor]

Yeah around 30 hours is when I realized I didn't really like it.
I then promptly played for another 100

[surreal crystal]

Haha

[slim quiver]

yeah see makes no sense

[arctic grove]

the soundtrack makes my ears hurt

[surreal crystal]

This is funny man

[slim quiver]

why waste 100 hours on something you hate

[arctic grove]

im not even shitting you

[novel raptor]

I dunno

[slim quiver]

yeah i think it does

[fierce gull]

That's the point
The soundtrack is the weapon

[elfin flame]

Oh shit, EA investors call in two days!

[slim quiver]

my point is, it looks like people who moved on to something they like instead of sticking around to shit they dislike? have had a better time

[surreal crystal]

[slim quiver]

theyre happier

[arctic grove]

the ear piercing treble, the bass boosted screeching trumpets, the uncontrolled bass

[proud cairn]

Yes, if I dont like the game I dont see the point playing , it , by not playing it hurts their ratings enough and refunding. Hopefully EA & DICE get some decent direction for the next game

[slim quiver]

at least you moved on

if i dont like something?

i dont play it

its a waste of time

[fierce gull]

I didn't cuz this game has some pretty good ass rocks

[arctic grove]

you are right

dont play it

[novel raptor]

True.