battlefield-2042

[grizzled whale]

lets hope origin and steam keep to their policy and dont give refunds to people who arent actually eligible anymore

[rugged citrus]

lets hope they give refunds to all below 110 hours

[tame cobalt]

if u got 50 hours u got what u paid for

[grizzled whale]

lets pray that they dont

[rugged citrus]

its just 50 hours, not that long for a 65 dollar game

[graceful hatch]

weird coincidence, thats what the business plan for 2042 is called

[arctic grove]

That was a dlc for bad company 2

[tame cobalt]

this makes no sense lmao

[rugged citrus]

game got boring after 50 hours to me

[plush coyote]

yeah

[grizzled whale]

most people play singleplayer games that are 60 bucks for maybe 50 hours, and nobody complains about those

[arctic grove]

Lol, yes they do

[rugged citrus]

but bf2042 is a MULTIPLAYER TITLE

[arctic grove]

Bf2042 is better with 3 friends

[tame cobalt]

I played 2042 for 200 hours now I'm waiting for season 1, then I'll probs play another 100 until season 2

[grizzled whale]

yes, and saying "only set hours of content" in an MP game is BS

[graceful hatch]

true but those are single player games, not multiplayer blockbusters like battlefield and cod. i have 800+ hours in bf4 alone, id be disappointed if i bought a battlefield game and got bored/stopped having fun after 40-50 hours

[grizzled whale]

fellow gold edition enjoyer 🤝

[rugged citrus]

yeah, i want a refund NOW

[tame cobalt]

Cope

[arctic grove]

I just want enough content that functions to be worthy of the Deluxe Edition I bought.

[graceful hatch]

snowflakes leave the chat, brutal expectations incoming

[arctic grove]

[grizzled whale]

snowflakes leave the chat, snowflake incomming?

[arctic grove]

I would take features over content

[devout meadow]

I stopped playing after 1 week early acess, I came back because I heard it's going free to play, really?

[graceful hatch]

kind of says a lot that u have to choose between them lol

[arctic grove]

Either one really

Then battlefield 4 was released and of course was meant to be a Xbox one exclusive at the launch of the Xbox one console release day then later on dice and ea release battlefield 4 on steam and PlayStation 4 then battlefield hardline which was supriseing to release it on Xbox 360 playstation 3 playstation 4 Xbox one steam @arctic grove @tame cobalt

@graceful hatch it does

[tame cobalt]

If you did some research about what you were buying you'd have known gold edition doesn't give extra content, but of course you didn't do any research and now you spend your days crying about it

[grizzled whale]

id take a NTW buff over content, im gonna T1 it and it fucking sucks

[devout meadow]

2042 going F2Play is it true?

[graceful hatch]

no lol, not a chance. parts of the game might like portal or hazard zone, but i guarantee the whole game doesnt go f2p

[arctic grove]

At least with features there would be more game modes, and things to do with the content we already have

[arctic grove]

My deluxe edition did come with extra content lol. Clown

[devout meadow]

then imma report a social media posting false news

[rugged citrus]

Yeah! DICE does it again!

[arctic grove]

I'm a little surprised at the lack of weapons. No EOD bots in AOW

[reef kestrel]

Need to enjoy this moment of Tom vs Dice Developer on Twitter.

[arctic grove]

Wasn't there tanks verse EOD bots?

dO rEaSeArCh.

Didn't know what the Deluxe Edition is🤦🏼‍♂️

Or was that just portal

[graceful hatch]

knowing things before opening ur mouth is brutal expectation

[arctic grove]

[devout meadow]

was there even a "Rumor that 2042 will be free to play"? because I want to report this social media for posting false news, looking for a friend to assist

[hot folio]

guys brutal expectations you think dice has the money to fix a spelling error 🤬🤬🤬

[arctic grove]

Delux edition = digital soundtrack of the hit south park orchestral rendition of gay fish

[hot folio]

Yes but it’s true

[graceful hatch]

friend whatever u have been doing recently u need to take a break and sober up

[arctic grove]

Battlefield 1 was then release for Xbox one playstation 4 and steam which of course was considered the last only good battlefield game that had a amazing multiplayer experience then the 2 worst battlefield games were released battlefield v and battlefield 2043 that has a shit launch and that doesn't have a high player count

[devout meadow]

damn, i am one step away from reporting the news

[arctic grove]

Still a better love story than 2042

Heh

[devout meadow]

If I did not see stuttering soldiers in the year of 2042, imma sue EA lul

[graceful hatch]

theres no "rumour" about f2p, EA have outright said they are considering all options for 2042 to salvage it, including potential f2p segments

[modest monolith]

Some journalist was mentioning it.
While that seems like a good idea to bring people, it won't keep them with the current state of the game.
You'll just show to more people how bad everything is

[devout meadow]

I am hyped to destroy my pc, wym

[white geyser]

Since I unlocked Mr friendly skin for the AA wildcat tank and created custom zombie matchup, I'll be using this skin like I'm in the zombie survival

[arctic grove]

BfV vehicles were good. The planes imo a lot better than bf4. After playing well over 1k hours as Infantry I started only using planes. I was hoping that type of game play would have made it to 2042

[devout meadow]

for free

[arctic grove]

The spitfire verse bf109 with AA's shooting at you both was intense

So, should I finally fold and go play battlefield V?

[hot folio]

I’d do anything for dice to keep supporting battlefield 5 I loved the pacific and think it was battlefield 5’s redemption

[arctic grove]

Honest answers

[graceful hatch]

i went back to bf1 personally, bfv leaves the taste of disappointment in my mouth

[devout meadow]

I remember hyping for penguin skin before 2042 got released..now? i dont know what to say XD

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove BfV turned out good in my opinion, but lacks a lot of features

[hot folio]

Yes it’s not that bad play the pacific, Iwo Jima is just d day but Japanese

[arctic grove]

Those features are ones I'm used to from bf4

Alright

[devout meadow]

Sniping intensifies

[reef kestrel]

Dice think the game is fine.

[hot folio]

But there is nothing better then when your team finally pushes through and takes the final objective

[dusky blade]

Beware, it’s not great by any means

[devout meadow]

tbh if i have my own game, i think its fine ._.

[graceful hatch]

fine enough for a big old well deserved holiday lmao

[hot folio]

Do you guys think battlefield 2042 could be redeemed? I honestly think no, too many things are bad

[dusky blade]

No it can’t

It will be scrapped end of this year after minimal content support, that’s just a fact and the way it is

[graceful hatch]

imo 2042 is fundamentally flawed at its core and short of a complete redesign and do-over (which by that point, makes it not even 2042 anymore really) id say probably not, no

[arctic grove]

I would say that I at least myself I learned my battlefield history and knowing that battlefield is always meant for it's wonderful amazing multiplayer experience.

[devout meadow]

chat go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Battlefield Discord

[hot folio]

It’s beyond fixing, battlefield 5 had solid movement and gun mechanics just a horrible launch,

[reef kestrel]

Bf2042 is ded.

Developer think the game is fine.

[devout meadow]

"Its fine"- dev

[arctic grove]

When they showcased the spitfire in portal I thought it was the one from BfV. Was excited to fly the BfV planes through the new 2042 maps. It would have been insane

[reef kestrel]

Triple A studios btw

[graceful hatch]

if i had to put money on it, id say well see a BFV development cycle where they keep it on life support for a couple months, release 1 good update giving the community hope they might have actually worked on a game before and theres potential and then theyll abandon it almost immediately afterwards lol

[copper rock]

Clownfield 2042 is pretty good though, it's on steam

[reef kestrel]

We are just toxic and delusional from developer perspective.

[devout meadow]

Agreed since day 1 2042 got released

[graceful hatch]

i said 2042 would have to be a black mark on ur resume as a developer and one of the DICE employees said i "had no idea how the industry worked" lol

[arctic grove]

Yes agreed since launch day 1 of battlefield 2042

[copper rock]

why are you guys such drama queens though? Doubt their future careers will be impacted

[reef kestrel]

We are just a minority from developer perspective.

Let make our own Battlefield using UE4/UE5!

[arctic grove]

I told you so

[graceful hatch]

how is speculating on the impact of being associated with a disaster like this being a drama queen? project a little less friend and refrain from putting words or anything else in my mouth in future

[arctic grove]

And @reef kestrel adding in a campaign at least too for those players who likes playing the campaign before playing multiplayer

All the cheerleaders poofed 👀

[reef kestrel]

Doubt indie dev have budget to make a campaign except if peoples donate on patreon and we get the equipment and tech for it.

[arctic grove]

Did you guys know bf1 used to never have standard hardcore, rush, or custom servers

[graceful hatch]

EA would probably copyright strike it anyway because it would be ebtter than what they did lol

[arctic grove]

And the community had to fight dice for those things, same with Bf5 but Bf5 didn't get everything even

[reef kestrel]

Imagine making our own battlefield from a to z.

Developping destructible object and geometry on ue5.
Optimizing character render for 128p and more.

[arctic grove]

And making it a next gen exclusive and releasing it on steam and orgin by next gen I mean playstation 5 and Xbox Series X

[reef kestrel]

Smooth animation and more impact feeling when u reload.

Leaning + the mw2019 mechanic dunno the name when you are near a corner or sandbag and you have a feature for to it like leaning.

[grizzled whale]

mounting

[hot folio]

I don’t how EA could fix this, they fucked up big time and knew the game wasn’t ready

[reef kestrel]

Oh yeah Mounting it a great feature in mw2019

It could goes well in a battlefield keeping bfv gameplay gunplay and adding the mounting feature as an addition.

[dusky blade]

No it was awful

[reef kestrel]

typing on phone is hard

[dusky blade]

Mounting did nothing but encourage solo play camping

[reef kestrel]

Depend how it's executed

[dusky blade]

Just add leaning back

[reef kestrel]

Well in Battlefield there is no camp if you can destroy the building or wall.

[arctic grove]

@reef kestrel I would rather say we should unreal engine 5 over unreal engine 4

[hot folio]

MW19’s whole mission was to make it the most realistic call of duty, so of course it would have stuff like mounting

[reef kestrel]

Dice went for the trend I aim more for gameplay / gunplay and ofc graphic evolution.

But fuck Im not a developer.

[arctic grove]

For the campaign make it continue from the short film of Exodus for battlefield 2042 and continue from the ending of battlefield 4 campaign

[reef kestrel]

Exodus make bf2042 feel dark

But the game himself is a fucking clownshow. IT DOESNT goes with exodus wtf

Even Irish doesnt have cringy quip and he said himself dont be a hero bs.

[arctic grove]

Yes it does which it does make it disappointed that dice decided to make battlefield 2042 is a multiplayer only game and doesn't make it like it was shown in the trailers

[reef kestrel]

Imagine the multiplayer was like titanfall 1

[still vault]

This chat sometimes

[arctic grove]

And they should have added in campaign and make it begin after the ending of battlefield 4 as the prologue mission and then make the 1st mission this many years later after events of battlefield 4 campaign and continue it from the exodus short film ending cutscene. @reef kestrel

[grizzled whale]

infested with hackers?

[hot folio]

You don’t remember when the No sharts attacked Santa Claus in the desert?

[reef kestrel]

Storytelling while playing in mp and having big battlefield.

[reef kestrel]

Hackers is in every Mp game sadly.

[grizzled whale]

i havent encountered one in 2042 yet

[hot folio]

Poor mod gotta watch everybody shit on the game and can’t do anything about it

[arctic grove]

That's a pretty good image

[reef kestrel]

because the game is trash that hacker gave up on bf2042.

[elfin aspen]

battlefield is finished

sadly its the truth same for cod

[grizzled whale]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[arctic grove]

@elfin aspen cod is not finished because Activision will continue it no matter what

[elfin aspen]

yeah

[grizzled whale]

So i still get full player lobbies, get good performance AND hackers gave up on it

[elfin aspen]

ik but think of the playerbase all of the OG players are now quiting the game cause of how bad the game is

the era of single player games and co-op games is coming back

[arctic grove]

Insurgency sandstorm has taken a lot of Playstation players

People were waiting for that game since the launch of bfV

[elfin aspen]

or realistic shooters

[arctic grove]

@elfin aspen that's because they want it to be like older cod games back in the early late 2000s era

Console lacks good FPS games

[arctic grove]

Nah lmao insurgency died on ps4 only the die hard fans play it

@arctic grove I haven't touched it. Is it not doing good?

[reef kestrel]

now Cod is under Microsoft

[hot folio]

Cod always sells the best no matter what, vanguard is literally a copy and paste of mw19 just ww2 but the kids will buy it cause they don’t care + parents buying Christmas gifts

[arctic grove]

Its another valorant situation

@elfin aspen Activision has to evolve and upgrade the call of duty franchise series game they can't keep it old school like back in the 2000s cod era.

That's because cod has like a million kids playing it

[tame cobalt]

Who

[reef kestrel]

You know BF can compet.COD if EA and Dice wasnt stuck in their own delusional world and make a game that can appease everyone.

[arctic grove]

Cod wont die cause the amount of people who would buy it just cause its made by the same company lol

@arctic grove because parents know call of duty is not bad as the battlefield community is when playing the multiplayer

[hot folio]

But battlefield was always intended to be more violent and dark, EA saw what cod was doing and wanted to get more sales by copying them

[arctic grove]

Do a lot of people still play 'squad

[reef kestrel]

depend the mood

[tame cobalt]

make a game that can appease everyone

That is impossible. Period.

[elfin aspen]

the game is not good i just want the people to know that cod and battlefield wont make a game that is gonna be remembered

[hot folio]

ok who here thinks 2042 is a good game

[arctic grove]

The golden years of gaming

[reef kestrel]

impossible but its possible to appease majority of players.

Like Cod majority like it and hater will always exist

[elfin aspen]

where 2006 to 2015

[arctic grove]

@hot folio can you say fun instead of good?

[reef kestrel]

For Battlefield they just need to check Battlefield 3 formula and improve it.

[arctic grove]

@elfin aspen call of duty modern warfare 2019 & call of duty black ops cold war are amazing games dude because it was made by the only 2 good call of duty developers employee team at infinity ward and treyarch

[elfin aspen]

cold war aint good

[reef kestrel]

Most important is Gameplay gunplay and map design.

Including progression and the longetivity of the game.

[elfin aspen]

cod mw2019 was great but not on legendary satus

[sturdy prism]

Speaking about progression, they better bring back the ability to farm specialists with bots

[elfin aspen]

status

[hot folio]

2 different things though, you might have fun in 2042 for the first 10 hours and then it gets boring because of the lack of content

[reef kestrel]

mw2019 was great and atleast the right direction cod did tho.

[grizzled whale]

they better not

[sturdy prism]

They better do it

[arctic grove]

That's for you @elfin aspen that's probably prefers old school cod engine gameplay mechanics back in Early late 2000s Xbox 360 playstation 3 era like call of duty black ops 2 call of duty black ops 1 call of duty world at war.

[reef kestrel]

better to remove specialist.

Just like fuck the specialist.

[sturdy prism]

See this, i like this idea

[arctic grove]

Farming bots is basically cheating on your test and thinking your still an a+ student

[reef kestrel]

turn them into elite skin and bring back the class core design.

[neat totem]

Nice patch, glad Australian consumer protection laws cover this game past 2+ hours on steam

[elfin aspen]

i personally liked all cod games except CW and and this shit game called vanguard

[grizzled whale]

progression against bots is just bad, why not just put an unlock all option in the menu

[neat totem]

EA is just digging themselves deeper with this game lol, it's kinda hilarious at this point

[grizzled whale]

Its like people who flex with damascus in modern warfare while having paid for bot lobbies

[arctic grove]

I mean the dice original battlefield developers some have left and others went to work for different game company's and the general mange of dice and game director of the battlefield franchise series retired too.

[reef kestrel]

just sell the game to microsoft atleast they'll give the game to a competent team

[elfin aspen]

they have to drop this game or make it free to play then all of the 6 year olds and 7 year old will revive the game

[sturdy prism]

Its mostly cuz im mad about the fact sundance's default skin in the trailers looks way cooler than the one we got and the only way to get her with the helmet is to do 1200 kills with her dumb grenades

[reef kestrel]

Paik is ugly af compared the concept art

[sturdy prism]

True

[reef kestrel]

a shame to the model 3d designer.

Im sure a 3d modeler from vrchat can do a better one.

[sturdy prism]

[neat totem]

that's actually true LOL

[hot folio]

It’s like at the last second EA decided to add specialists

[arctic grove]

The design of specialist is sadly due to woke culture

[neat totem]

I know several people who work on custom Avatars 1k+ in vrchat and they would blow the fucking water out of EA's current talent on this game

[sturdy prism]

No they planned this since they added heroes in bfv

[reef kestrel]

Im sure the french 3d modeler from scp sl can make a better paik model.

He did the doggy and others scp model.

[tame cobalt]

Dice has highly skilled and talented employees. The problems were in other areas:

• mismanagement
• covid
• project rebooted mid development
• a game engine that is very hard to work with, especially for new employees
• EA enforcing a premature deadline

[elfin aspen]

wait until microsoft makes the next move

[hot folio]

Battlefield 5 elites were made for money of course but at least they didn’t make them cowboys and clowns, the Japanese elites are great

[reef kestrel]

I'm following a french developer who work alone on his own game and his 3d model is better than the Paik one.

[hot folio]

(We don’t talk about Steve though)

[elfin aspen]

top gun in ww2 lmao

[arctic grove]

@tame cobalt the longtime known veteran fans of the battlefield franchise series know that the original developer team of battlefield franchise series some has left and quit to work at different game company's or created their own game company's and the general manager of dice and game director of battlefield franchise series has retired and now the team has newer employees and a new general manager/game director for the battlefield franchise series.

[reef kestrel]

Imagine a single developer working on his own game making his own vfx, model, animation, etc..

more talented than Dice.

[hot folio]

guys stop trying to defend EA

[still vault]

Ask the French developer to put 128 of his models in a scene at the same time while shooting thousands of rounds that all have to be tracked by a server and have it run well😄

[arctic grove]

In all honestly they probably make a pretty cool nameless faceless Soldier then the woke producer says to make him an it specialist give him a middle eastern accent

[hot folio]

I have nothing against you but 2042 is badly optimized on PC

[tame cobalt]

That's fine. We can still get good games from the new team. Game companies always have employees leaving and joining, especially when a project is completed

[wide shore]

You completely missed the point of what they were trying to say

[still vault]

I wish it ran better too, but try comparing its performance to all the other games that do what 2042 do - oh, wait

[reef kestrel]

I'll ask Wrel for that he is the lead designer for Planetside 2.

It his expertise on this field.

[still vault]

Because Planetside 2 models are so pretty? 😄

[reef kestrel]

He went from Player to become a actual dev for planetside 2.

[ebon pilot]

PlanetSide 2 models do be kinda 2 gens ago

[tame cobalt]

Modern warfare 2019 wasn't made by the same people as the original modern warfare either.

[arctic grove]

Yeah I mean also at the same time dice can't create a new battlefield game themselves because I think they have to have electronic arts developer team create a new battlefield game that has new game mechanics and engine

[arctic grove]

Yeah true

[reef kestrel]

12 yo game tho and also you can commission your own helmet to planetside 2 they'l prob. give u the condition like how many polygons etc..

[hot folio]

Just admit 2042 was released in a unfinished state there is no denying it, even if you like the game

[wide shore]

I don’t think anyone would deny that

[arctic grove]

I just want to run around with an ak sounding like the guy from Dell tech support

[reef kestrel]

In Planetside 2 communities make the cosmetic.

[arctic grove]

Like looking at infinity ward they had to get Activision and other game company's that are owned by Activision to create modern warfare 2019

[tame cobalt]

They just need to figure out their management issues IMO. And now that Vince Zampella is the head of management for battlefield, i think good stuff is gonna come.

[proud glen]

add team chat or proxy chat pls k thanks bye

[ebon pilot]

It's coming

[reef kestrel]

Then again Planetside 2 isnt about 128p but above this numbers.

[proud glen]

REALLYYY?!??!?!

[tame cobalt]

No

[ebon pilot]

Yes

[wide shore]

SOON™️ for game chat

[proud glen]

whennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn any dates?

[arctic grove]

Yeah the guy from tech support is working on it now

[wide shore]

Prox chat probably isn’t coming

[tame cobalt]

Squad voice chat is coming. That's all that's known on that topic

[proud glen]

hahaha imagine proxy chat on conquest or break throuighj lmfao]

[reef kestrel]

Better Vince plan a new battlefield and gave up this one.

He wasnt even responsible for this mess.

[still vault]

Yup. And everyone complained about performance when it came out.

[arctic grove]

@tame cobalt my biggest concern and a known issue that dice needs to fix right away is the optimization for battlefield 2042 on old gen consoles like playstation 4 & xbox one

[wide shore]

Everyone saying they should abandon this game are sounding like the folks who said the same thing about BFV. Now look at all the folks saying BFV deserved better. Smh

[reef kestrel]

Had 60-70 fps on my gtx 570 ti then swapped to 670 for 120 fps for Planetside 2

[tame cobalt]

Nah, imma keep enjoying the updates coming to 2042 while they work on making the next game a banger 🤤

[tame cobalt]

Yeah they're gonna work on optimisation, but it probably won't be fixed very soon. They are struggling with the frostbite engine

Just get a ps5

[reef kestrel]

I dont think I complained about performance in planetside 2 long time ago.

2012 to 2017

[ebon pilot]

What kind of super clocked 670 did you have when my 960 couldn't handle shit in PS2

[arctic grove]

I can't get a playstation 5 Because it's always sold out very quickly around here in united states of america even at my local stores where I live in usa

@arctic grove use trackers for drops

What state you in

[arctic grove]

New Mexico

[elfin aspen]

just buy one from overseas

[reef kestrel]

i wasnt constant at 120 fps but it was the highest i could reach it depend the situation, and player numbers in a huge fight it decrease to 60 or 80 really depend the amount of vfx rendered on my screen but its was long time ago.

I still have some clips of my 1v4 esf on youtube but it was on air so I had more fps or less while recording.

(Shadowplay wasnt a thing lol.)

[elfin aspen]

i bought my xbox series x in germany

[tame cobalt]

Search on google "ps5 twitter and discord stock notifications"

[reef kestrel]

I remember when u record with fraps you lose % of fps lol

[elfin aspen]

now im thinking of buying a PS5

they're also a lot cheaper in germany

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove I'd suggest using one of the tracker chats on YouTube, discord or mIRC

I think I might just order a playstation 5 at a Walmart in united kingdom London and get me a disc edition of playstation 5 with spider man miles morales and demon's souls and call of duty vanguard and battlefield 2042

You don't need to do that

[elfin aspen]

@ocean plinth i think it was like 400 euros for the digital edition and for the disc 450 maby 480 euros

[arctic grove]

They have drops all the time you just need to be informed when

[tame cobalt]

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove is there is any differences bet ween playing call of duty vanguard & black ops cold war on playstation 4 & playstation 5? @tame cobalt

I couldn't tell you I don't play cod games

Bf is enough arcade shooter for me

The ps5 in general is different. A lot better

@ocean plinth but like graphic and player count wise does playstation 5 have more player count and better graphics then playstation 4 for call of duty vanguard & black ops cold war

Better graphics and performance.. The player count depends if the game mixes new Gen console players with old. BfV as an example does that, while Bf2042 you need to download the ps4 copy of the game to play with those players

[clever rune]

I keep seeing invisible soldiers, is there a new perk or item

great patch though it's honestly made the game way better for me

I'm having an intense amount of fun grouping up on the amazing 128 player maps and having an amazing time creating unique cherished battlefield moments

[arctic grove]

It might be the exiting vehicle bug. It was a issue before but since this patch exiting a vehicle gives a lot of problems

[copper rock]

And yet most are better than battlefail 2042

[clever rune]

oh crazy, I haven't been running into many bugs must be one of those rare ones

IDK why people complain so much, scoreboards aren't a big deal I just like to shoot things and look sick while doing it

[vast surge]

Anyone get the no reticle bug yet? Like not being able to scope in?

[arctic grove]

Exiting a vehicle can take away ads and possibly make you invisible

[clever rune]

dang thats insane, I'm sure EA will patch that tomorrow

sounds like something pretty big

[arctic grove]

It's annoying to have no ads or even a gun sometimes when you jump out of a jeep

I avoid vehicles in hazard zone because of this 😐

I always thought and thinked to myself inside my brain and mind that call of duty black ops cold war & call of duty vanguard had differences between old gen and new game playstation 4 & xbox one vs xbox series x & playstation 5 like increased player count sizes and better graphics

I went shopping for shorts for summer. Trying to get my Beach bod ready. For some reason all the guy shorts are above the knee now. Kinda weird

[plush coyote]

thats normal no one wants short longs

[arctic grove]

Above the knee though. Above the knee?

[plush coyote]

yeah lol

[pseudo depot]

i'm Japanese.

[reef kestrel]

Konichiwa o genki desuka?

[arctic grove]

At Benihana's they call soy sauce Japanese Coca-Cola

[pseudo depot]

i like sushi.

[torpid vortex]

are they khaki? maybe surplus cop uniform

[arctic grove]

@torpid vortex khaki denim all types

[pseudo depot]

コンニチハ

[empty bloom]

No

[junior pike]

Japanese?

[torpid shuttle]

Why I see pixel?

[torpid shuttle]

Konnichiwa

[river trench]

When are they gonna add the mouse and keyboard for console for this game

[arctic grove]

Probably not for a long time

[junior pike]

[snow river]

I think m&k support should be the least of our worries right now. That being said it needs to happen eventually

[arctic grove]

Damn I want this new scuf reflex FPS controller

[river trench]

They said they gonna add it?

[earnest verge]

🍣

[junior pike]

[arctic grove]

I didn't buy it on the launch because I figured it would stay in stock but it's not

[junior pike]

i like BF4

[arctic grove]

Bf4 is fun but feels a little old to me these days 😐

[snow river]

Nah they are radio silent about it like they are about the myriads of other issues and missing features

[junior pike]

He is the best work of modern warfare

[keen plank]

they're not. if they didn't choose to include it, then it was by choice.

[arctic grove]

Do you guys think these features were consciously kept out of the game? Or the game just wasn't finished and the features were going to be added at a later date

[lilac dust]

Some suppresors have minimap spotting and some don't???

[arctic grove]

Yes

[arctic grove]

Some attachments are broken

[reef kestrel]

the game is broken

[keen plank]

except in the case of the suppressors, it was actually by design. the smaller ones still hide beyond 19m, and the big ones hide from all ranges, but reduce damage further than the smaller ones.

though none of this is told to the player when comparing them. you just see the damage values being different.

[arctic grove]

Good to know

[dusky blade]

What about the multiple grips that do the same thing

[arctic grove]

Bestbuy is have a sale and Bf2042 is $34 from 69.99

[lime crystal]

Ye later on will be on sale for 0.00$

[uneven palm]

Is 2042 becoming f2p?

[subtle imp]

just a rumor

[hollow lichen]

Might be

[uneven palm]

If it does I hope to get my money back

[still vault]

Same rumor was there for BF5 or even Hardline.

[subtle imp]

yup, unless it comes from EA, pay it no attention, this rumor started with a tweet from a reporter

[rugged citrus]

EA = greedy - no F2P

[rugged citrus]

lol no they wont, its EA, if anything they will ask you to pay more to play when it goes F2P

i think it will go F2P temporarily

[earnest verge]

i think this is one of the best designed parts of the game, and i agree it really should be told to the player in the guns menus

[sterile tendon]

[spiral raptor]

i think its both

[earnest verge]

i also think both

[rugged citrus]

imo bf2042 isn't THAT broken as people say, still quite a bit of bugs but after update 3.2 you only see like 3-6 bugs per full match

[earnest verge]

I think of it this way, warship loging screen, but no warships in vanilla release + water buggy as fuck and launch you in to space = broken now, add later

[arctic grove]

When I say broken I'm referring to the changing of the core game. As in classes to specialist, loadout restrictions, etc

[pine roost]

It’s not the bugs that are the main issues

[ashen wadi]

Only bug I get rarely nowadays is my LATV either spawning under the ground or sometimes getting 'pushed' under. Like if a tank runs over it.

[rugged citrus]

oh ok, bug-wise its more acceptable

[arctic grove]

Not so much broken as in bugs / performance

Yeah I agree bug wise it's better than past titles

[earnest verge]

u are right, i played yesterday for the first time in exactly 1 month, before i could not go 15 min without bugs, yesterday i played 1 whole hour with no bugs, so def improved

[rugged citrus]

but the core gameplay elements HAVE to change

[ashen wadi]

That's the part they will likely struggle to change. I doubt they will revert them to a class system like people pine for.

[rugged citrus]

if the specialists dont make them enough money then they will go back to classes

[arctic grove]

I think that's why most people see no hope

[ashen wadi]

In the next BF, sure.

[rugged citrus]

any rumours on the next bf? i think they will drop this game after the year 1 pass people pre-ordered for then work on heroshooter 7 i mean battlefield 7

[ashen wadi]

Wasn't there something like a Battlefield World

[arctic grove]

There was a good balance with loadout restrictions, map design, and vehicles that made conquest flow good. Breaking these mechanics changes the balancing a lot

[rugged citrus]

sure maybe portal is supported but not AOW or HZ (HZ will get abandoned after season 1 i think)

[arctic grove]

Not so sure portal will be abandoned

[rugged citrus]

meh i dont think so

[ashen wadi]

Honestly all I am hoping for in 2042 is better map designs that don't emphasis 'open'

[arctic grove]

Portal could possible safe the game in the long run

[ashen wadi]

Like seriously. 70% are sniper or vehicle killzones in most maps. Hourglass is horrid.

[earnest verge]

If they want to save the game they need to do 3 things and ignore all other problems till these 3 are solved. Everything else is just minor noise imo
1 Improve fps (if ppl that dont own the latest tech cant play it will fail)
2 More maps + improve old ones (if game dont have fun maps, the game will fail)
3 More guns (if people cant play guns they think are cool + change to not get boored, the game will fail)

[rugged citrus]

im a proud owner of a 3070 with an i7-11800H and dual channel 16gb ram and i still cant run the game above 90 fps on 1440p low settings dlss ultra performance no RT

[arctic grove]

If you take maps like operation outbreak, pearl market, Caspian border, firestorm, propaganda for instance and place them next to the hourglass map it's night and day difference

[ashen wadi]

In any case. I expect EA will pull an Anthem or Battlefront 2 with this. They'll shift resources to the next BF and pull the plug once the game is in reasonable shape.

[uneven palm]

No one cares if you’ve got jcrnducjeksin or not nvm

[earnest verge]

i feel u, i run 32g ram and bf2042 eats about 16-17 alone

[rugged citrus]

if they make a scoreboard, server browser (or matchmaking settings), voip and put a lot of content in season 1 i guarantee the playerbase will come back at atleast 30% capacity of the all-time peak

[uneven palm]

Ah yea 30k players….

[arctic grove]

That's still excluding clan / platoon support

[earnest verge]

tbh i dont think those things matter, if they dont do the 3 things i listed above the game is already dead, voip and scoreboard are nice to have not must have

[rugged citrus]

according to the playerbase those are compulsory

[arctic grove]

@earnest verge you'd be surprise how much those things make a difference

[earnest verge]

yeah they are vocal about it, but they are also saying they think the game sux and is boring, voip and scoreboard wont change that, they wont stay for 1, 2 or 3 years playing the game for that

[arctic grove]

The server browser alone is a major deal... For a team based game to disallow friends to find each other is baffling

[ashen wadi]

Think part of that is because they are coined as 'legacy features' by the developers, when really they are a core feature of most BFs.

Legacy implies old. A scoreboard is bread and butter in competitive games

[earnest verge]

u mean persistent servers, and yes this we all want, to build community like we always have

[arctic grove]

@earnest verge server browser for finding persistent AOW standard maps, yes

Literally the first day we had a chat room with eight people in it ready to play. Only 3 of us could get in a match everyone else left and played something else

[earnest verge]

yeah now i get what u mean, i was thinking of persistens portal servers, but for the same reason as u i bealive

[rugged citrus]

above all i want a matchmaking settings or server browser, i hate playing the same map over and over

[arctic grove]

I wonder if it's done to protect streamers, youtuber and their influancers from being harassed and followed around

[earnest verge]

in the current state of the maps, i only wanna play that dark harbor map and the badcompany maps, the rest are garbage, that boring desert/greenlands map with a big wall in the middle made me quit my 1 hour seasion after 5 min on that map T_T

[rugged citrus]

orbital is my favorite i also love kaleidoscope

[arctic grove]

I'm pissed they removed the top objective from orbital breakthrough

[ashen wadi]

I like Manifest. Though trying to deal with spawn beacons atop the cargo movers is always annoying.

[arctic grove]

It was hella fun trying to take it. All these people cried about it. Everyone wants the game on easy mode. Bot farms fast xp, easy vehicles, more lockons

[earnest verge]

i hate kaleidoscope, i think its one of the worst maps ever made, but this is the point i was making, we all like different maps so there need to be alot of them so that a big playerbase can keep having fun instead of changing game

[arctic grove]

I'd rather play Kaleidoscope than hourglass

[rugged citrus]

i'd rather play kaleidoscope over hourglass because kaleidoscope is more city than empy wide open sand dunes, if hourglass was more city then i would play hourglass

[fierce gull]

But hourglass be looking hot tho

[ashen wadi]

Nobody likes sand.

[arctic grove]

Hourglass would be a cool air superiority map

[rugged citrus]

if hourglass looked more like dawnbreaker i'd play it

[fierce gull]

[arctic grove]

Or tank V tank

[rugged citrus]

imagine if hourglass was like dawnbreaker with the day night cycle, man people would go insane

[fierce gull]

I saw a tank warfare server in portal once set in hourglass

[arctic grove]

It doesn't look anything like dawn breaker

[rugged citrus]

the buildings do

[arctic grove]

Maybe the only resemblance

[rugged citrus]

in the gameplay trailer hourglass had WAY more city, idk what they done to the rest of the map that was featured in the gameplay trailer

[arctic grove]

It's like silk road with out the objectives

Errr actually silk road had clifs and rocks to hide behind

[ashen wadi]

Should see the concept art.

[rugged citrus]

in the gameplay trailer it felt more like dawnbreaker

[arctic grove]

I do recall thinking that

The other night my friend and I got the hourglass map over and over. It kept putting us back in it

[ashen wadi]

In the concept art the place is teeming with buildings. More roads and structures everywhere.

[rugged citrus]

that was because in the gameplay trailer there was more city, most of the map was city and buildings in gameplay trailer, idk what they done to 90% of the map and replaced it with sand dunes

[ashen wadi]

They moved most of it, kept the stadium and one chunk of buildings and replaced it all with more sand.

[rugged citrus]

that was because in the gameplay trailer there was more city, most of the map was city and buildings in gameplay trailer, idk what they done to 90% of the map and replaced it with sand dunes

[upbeat sand]

kalidescope best map

[fallen thorn]

The outlook station in breakaway seemed like an important place too in the trailers.

[fierce gull]

Colors different in this concept art

[upbeat sand]

only if the game had 3+ more years before comming out

[earnest verge]

bruh, concepts always looks so much better T_T, also to bad we cant be in the actual city

[ashen wadi]

Still think they had to trim all of that for last gen consoles

[rugged citrus]

YOOOOOO THAT WAS SICK

[arctic grove]

Seems to run better on last Gen console than pc

[fierce gull]

The art has colorful buildings but we have orange

[earnest verge]

it really dosnt

[ashen wadi]

But man, look at all that cover.

[earnest verge]

yeah wtfs up with that, its not subtle orange either

[rugged citrus]

ikr, who made the stupid design decision to cut that, pretty much everything in the concept art was better

[fierce gull]

I guess it's to fit with the sandstorm?

[fallen thorn]

the trailer had an actual sandstorm rolling in. In the real game it just starts randomly xD

[earnest verge]

yeah i get that, but it just looks way off to me

[fierce gull]

Don't you see it rolling in?

[glossy storm]

Bruh, please don't make Portal F2P...

[fallen thorn]

no

clear skies and then it just starts to get orange with the "sandstorm effects"

[arctic grove]

i wanna play but do i really want AI on my team rn?

[glossy storm]

I just saw Tom's new video. Dunno if everything he's saying is true, but DICE needs to make Hazard Zone F2P...

[grizzled whale]

im starting to regret going for the NTW T1

i went from ~40-60 kills a game to 20-30

[fierce gull]

If they make portal free they better drop some kick ass content to the mode

[arctic grove]

Can't wait to get my new keyboard 🙃

[earnest verge]

here is a wild idea, what about make hazard zone an actually good and fun game mode instead of whatever this current crap is f2p hazard zone makes 0 sense tbh

[arctic grove]

which

@arctic grove corsair k95

noiceee

[rugged citrus]

my new fav 2042 map is the concept art of hourglass

[arctic grove]

Yeah I cant wait. I've been using a Walmart keyboard for weeks lol

the world of 2042 art is crazy too bad it doesn’t live up

The concept art for the classes is insainly good

EA always kills it with concept art tbh

Ya I'm going to use some of the photos for avatars

they should just sell the title and do NFTs or some shit

[earnest verge]

[glossy storm]

I don't see why Portal should be made F2P...

[arctic grove]

1 eth

[still tangle]

Ur pfp is amazing

• name

[rugged citrus]

how do i post photos here

[still tangle]

You server boost or talk until mods give you the regular role

[arctic grove]

you cant

[rugged citrus]

oh ok

[earnest verge]

here is how i see it, hazard zone is so boring that litteraly no 1 plays it, making it f2p wont make it any more fun or interesting, so unless they do a whole makeover of the game mode, making it f2p wont bring any players, wont make a good comercial for the rest of the game, or make people spend money on mtx.

[arctic grove]

oh

[rugged citrus]

manifest concept art: https://preview.redd.it/drx2z8dvrkf71.png?width=640&height=360&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9e9560f244ed5e73c9fd96637ddcfd6571181d49

[earnest verge]

thanks bro, let the devs know we all want cat ears skins for boris in the game when they are here

[arctic grove]

sheeeesshhh

[mortal cobalt]

Sus

[still tangle]

yes yesyes I support

[arctic grove]

where do i find the art book that came w my ultimate edition

[ashen wadi]

Wonder if they'll add more disaster types than wind ones

[arctic grove]

Why isn't here a crossplay category in 'looking for games'?

[ashen wadi]

With Breakaway I was kinda expecting something to..y'know, break apart. Like maybe an avalanche.

[arctic grove]

fr battlefield 4 wouldve done it

[rugged citrus]

i wonder why EA just destroyed the concept art

[ashen wadi]

Either they ran outta time to build them or had to trim them down to accomodate something (playercount/systems)

[earnest verge]

yes, and u can always say liveservice when/iff they add it later, wooo

[ashen wadi]

Honestly if they revamp the maps to be like the concepts it'd be a plus either way. A stupid way to launch a game in, but I'd take improved maps easy.

[fierce gull]

Hmm so they are thinking of making portal free?

[glossy storm]

These aren't technically concept arts. All World of 2042 images are official promotional renders. The maps exactly look like this, except of course these images show a much larger view...

[rugged citrus]

see the gameplay trailer of bf2042, the gameplay trailer had the concept art map

[glossy storm]

These are official art images, not concept arts for the game. DICE posted these images on Twitter and IG.

[rugged citrus]

oh ok but still i loved those versions, i loved the hourglass map in the gameplay trailer, it was WAY more city with a big lake in the gameplay trailer, see the gameplay trailer if you want

[fierce gull]

There is a lake in hourglass?

[rugged citrus]

only in the gameplay trailer / concept art / early build of the game

[glossy storm]

Me too. I mean, just look at Kaleidoscope's World of 2042 render and then compare it to the final product...

[arctic grove]

wouldnt have been much cover still

[tame cobalt]

still a fun map

[arctic grove]

the need to nerf vehicles

[glossy storm]

I posted the image in #screenshots-and-clips.

[tame cobalt]

You need to buff your skill against vehicles

[fierce gull]

Idk about me but it looks the same

[glossy storm]

To me, it looks more blue than the actual map.

[earnest verge]

stap

[arctic grove]

Nerfing isn't always the answer

[fierce gull]

Buffing is the answer

[earnest verge]

this man gets it

[arctic grove]

The bolte is too OP nerf the gun fast! Rather than slowing down it maneuverability they completely make the cannon useless

[glossy storm]

Plus, back then, none of us knew how the map layout was gonna be, so I assumed the playable area was gonna be 50% urban part (with the building on fire) and 50% field...

[finite cave]

i stg if 2042 become free and we dont get a refund

i will actully kms to send a message to ea

[fierce gull]

They are looking to make portal free lol according to Tom

[finite cave]

still

[fierce gull]

And you can't sue

I mean you can but the lawsuit fail

[finite cave]

we should atleast deserve maybe a 40 percent refund of our purchase

ea will get so much backlash

[arctic grove]

well buff the recoilless M5

Yeah they ain't making this f2p

[lean basin]

Same specs but with amd 5600x cpu , i get 100-120 fps dlss quality 1440 high

[earnest verge]

they wont refund, but i dont understand the mentality of X ammount back everyone seam to have, either refund all of it or non of it?

[fierce gull]

Why did Tom Henderson have to ruin the ruined moment

[arctic grove]

i felt like i bought Battlefield 2042 Founders Edition

[finite cave]

@earnest vergei wish i bought it on steam not epic

[arctic grove]

Bestbuy is selling it half off right now

i got it on steam for 109

Bestbuy it's $34.99

[earnest verge]

origin gonna be more dead than hazard zone, thats a given

[finite cave]

on steam you get a refund dosnt matter how many hours you have

[arctic grove]

i downloaded battlefield 3 from ea pro

[grizzled whale]

anyone got some tips for the ntw. shits so annoying to use

[finite cave]

like i enjoy the game its the fact on how underwhelming it was

like i play coop now cuz atleast soilders actully look like soilders

[arctic grove]

so wait i can request a refund n but the game again at discount

buy

be a mid range sniper bro that shit blows 1 hit @grizzled whale

find spots near the OBJ n snipe out

take a tactical insertion with you

The maps on escape from tarkov are insainly good

never played it but my buddy is obsessed with it ngl it looks good just very complicated

i heard the new Rainbow siege extraction is really fun.

I finally downloaded it because 2042 can't keep my attention. I'm getting my ass handed to me in the game but the map detail and design are out of this world.

I feel if bf kept a more cqc mindset would love to see those style maps

same

[fierce gull]

Are you trying to use it on people?

[arctic grove]

i watch him play it all the time

[grizzled whale]

yeah, 1200 vehicles is gonna take even longer

[tame cobalt]

tarkov looks poopy doodoo

[fierce gull]

First of all if you are trying to use the NTW you gotta use Casper with his badass skin to feel with the flow

[grizzled whale]

nah

[arctic grove]

Here I am running around on open sand in hourglass when I could be sneaking through a factory

no u kill multiple in a V

casper is so flee i havent used him yet but i will when i got for a sniper t1

[fierce gull]

With the ntw I just hide wherever and jus snipe kids

[arctic grove]

same

[grizzled whale]

i went from the GVT to the NTW, shit is the complete oposite

[fierce gull]

I usually hide under sexy plants in orbital or besides big ass rocks

[arctic grove]

I basically boycott The Specialist. I picked 1 I would only use that was as close to classes as I could. Stick with that specialist only and nothing else. Happen to be angel and I became part of the meme. He is still the best

or

[grizzled whale]

long range with the ntw is just aids

[arctic grove]

use sundancer to get around the enemy n take em out 1 by 1 w the flank

[fierce gull]

Pick the biggest scope with the biggest range
Let the enemies come to you

[grizzled whale]

one sniper that spots it and im fucked

[arctic grove]

it wont be 1 hit kill tho

[fierce gull]

I wish there was more customization to the NTW

[grizzled whale]

i want a supressor on my 102mm antimaterial sniper

[fierce gull]

Suppressor explodes mid game

[grizzled whale]

one shot and its glowing red

[arctic grove]

4,548 In-Game

[grizzled whale]

okay but who asked, its 13:32 on a monday in europe

[fierce gull]

You believe in Tom right?
He said there are 40,000 - 50,000 playing everyday

[arctic grove]

That's even funnier

[fierce gull]

Ik

[weak umbra]

It is but the fact u can regen health and it’s not like doom where u cna farm health packs or they spawn around they rarely spawn and only give like 30 health and when u die u can’t use that operator anymore unless u rescue them it gets annoying and tidous

[arctic grove]

ye u gotta be real careful n have a team really

[fierce gull]

Also ratio + dozer dies

[arctic grove]

Are the operators still super fat in siege

[weak umbra]

Ik being careful isn’t my thing I just wanna run n gun especially in a pve shooter

[arctic grove]

you still feel 300 lbs in that game

[hot horizon]

is the game going f2p now?:D do we get refund or something?:D

[earnest verge]

no, no

[arctic grove]

They made some of those operators look really big lol

😄

[fierce gull]

Still not confirmed

[weak umbra]

Refund its ea

They’ll find some legal loophole to it and I don’t think they need to and ride it

[arctic grove]

whats crashing harder rn Eth or Bf2042

All crypto is crashing

yea but only eth matters

[weak umbra]

Probably 2042

[finite cave]

imagine a space game like no mans sky and you can orginise fleets and seige solar systems and you have worry about loosing ships

[arctic grove]

And my stocks

LOL @weak umbra

Isn't eth mining coming to an end soon?

no clue i use my pc for it still

Eth 2.0 will kill gpu mining but I don't think anyone wants 2.0 deployed

[arctic grove]

i dont want to imagine ANYTHING like no mans sky

[finite cave]

@arctic groveits so good now

espically with mates

[arctic grove]

is it?

[finite cave]

they fixed it up alot

[arctic grove]

i remember i bought it day 1 and it was boring as fuck

I was going to pre-order that game but didnt

The concept seemed cool, my friends just got me on elite dangerous. I played for a day and haven't got back on

No Mans Sky got an absolute ton of love

If EA fixed Battlefront 2 to a better and more popular state, then why wouldn't they demand that Dice fix 2042?

[ashen wadi]

Battlefront 2 was mostly a case of progression, content and tuning. The core was there to polish. Maps were fun too I think. 2042 seems to be a bit more complicated in comparison.

[arctic grove]

They kinda made battlefield into another game :/

[ashen wadi]

The core of 2042 was Hazard zones without a doubt. And that flopped

[reef kestrel]

Ah, yes the world is full of clown and they have gun.

What to do?

[arctic grove]

it took them over a year to fix battlefront 2

[fierce gull]

Battlefront 2 was doo Doo at launch

[reef kestrel]

Then Geonosis happen

[fierce gull]

That's when the game started to get good

[arctic grove]

Man I wish I could have been at the meeting the morning they made ethe decision to remove classes and go with specialist

[glossy storm]

Play Clownfield.

[arctic grove]

it wasnt ass it was just p2w af

[ashen wadi]

Have to thank Battlefront 2 for causing the world to turn on lootboxes for a few months.

[fierce gull]

There were annoying glitches as well

[arctic grove]

Battlefront is a bigger franchise than Battlefield? I think not. So.. EA should as be concerned as with Battlefront

[fierce gull]

Mfs be using 2 Darth Vaders in hero showdown and that glitch is probably still happening

[arctic grove]

I couldn't imagine running a woke buisness right now trying to force cosmetics onto my customers who just want regular army looking stuff

[arctic grove]

PTSD

getting flashbacks rn stop

[fierce gull]

[ashen wadi]

Loved playing as Darth in regular maps. Felt like such a tank.

[arctic grove]

bout to get fried and play bf2042

[grizzled whale]

Imma just not get the NTW to T1, fuck this

[arctic grove]

wanna play?

ill snipe with you bro

I've been sniping a lot with the 1x scope

First sniper think it's the swg that with the 1x red dot

And 40mm under barrel

remember when svk was the best gun

That's the first sniper?

[slow mortar]

Hopefully they put in the option to choose region for matchmaking

[hard ravine]

Is this a worse situation than hardline?

[fossil trench]

Hardline was at least fun

[finite cave]

bf4 is best battlefield idc what anyone says

[arctic grove]

I remember when I got the dice la camo

[dusky blade]

The maps suck

[past charm]

EA is considering free-to-play for Battlefield 2042 after sales disappointment

[hard ravine]

I gave up hope the game is gonna be salvaged after seeing how upper management reacted initially best bet is to wait for the next title sadly

[finite cave]

@past charmwe better get a refund

[hard ravine]

We wont lmfao

[finite cave]

im throwing hands with tom then

[hard ravine]

Noone got a refund for anthem rip

[finite cave]

anthem wasnt that bad

[past charm]

I want my 90$ back man i only played 10hr 🥲

[hard ravine]

But it seems like 2042 might go the anthem route

[finite cave]

it just needed more content

like reddead online i dont rockstar dosnt undertsand how much more money they would get from adding heists to rdr online

[hard ravine]

Idk if they can pump content out quick enough to stabilize the playerbase.

[finite cave]

rockstar is probs the most lazy gaming company

[hard ravine]

At least BF6 wont be shit, we hope

[reef kestrel]

Did you guys follow the tweet between Tom and a Developper from Dice?

[arctic grove]

This game was suppose to be their redemption after BfV

[finite cave]

@hard ravinethis was bf6

[arctic grove]

I don't think they'll have much of another chance

[turbid ravine]

send a link

[hard ravine]

You get what i mean the next proper titled entry

Battlefield one wasnt called bfv lol

[arctic grove]

Bf1 sucked balls

[finite cave]

@arctic grovetrying so hard to be diffrent

[arctic grove]

I didn't like it

[hard ravine]

They’ll scrap this to the side here soon if they cant save it just like hardline and go all in on the new studio direction and title which is probably bf6

[finite cave]

@arctic groveaverage cod fanboy

[arctic grove]

Game made me feel like we went back a step.

[hard ravine]

We went back about 10

[finite cave]

trying way to hard to be diffrent

[arctic grove]

It’s trying to be cod

[finite cave]

@arctic grovehe said bf1 is bad

[hard ravine]

Bf1 was the last time alot of bf vets were at the studio

[arctic grove]

Bf1 released with no standard hardcore, rest a server, rush. Bugs that made it so I couldn't load the game for days at a time.

I liked bf1 sweet spot snipering

On top of that it was like I was going through a history lesson. I wsnted ak's and pdws not ponies and muzzle-loading rifles

[hard ravine]

Yeah but every battlefield is ass at launch bf1 actually worked for the most part across the board and was content complete lol

[finite cave]

i loved bf5

[arctic grove]

Due to the fact bf4 was still very popular it was easier to stay on bf4 rather than bf1

[arctic grove]

I liked bf1 plus looks better then 2042

[hard ravine]

5’s launch was so awful it killed any enjoyment but i had some good fun with the updates

[arctic grove]

Bf1 looks like a nice game but wasn't for me.

[hard ravine]

I didnt like the bullet tracing system thats it

[arctic grove]

I was pissed about the setting in BfV also. Another history lesson

[hard ravine]

Too random and chunky

I mean i agree i prefer the modern guns but they fucked up so bad here

[arctic grove]

The plane game was great. I ended up liking BfV over time

bfv feels amazing to play

[grizzled whale]

finally hit s001 after 190 hours

[arctic grove]

my bullets actually go where im aiming at with mostly predictable recoil patterns

[arctic grove]

I didn’t like the sliding in bfV

[hard ravine]

Sliding is a bit wonky yeah

[arctic grove]

Gotta do the nut slide if your gonna be sweaty

[hard ravine]

They should expand upon fortifications and tactical@movement for bf6 with modern combat

[arctic grove]

I think they expressed wanting to do an actual hero shooter for the next one

[hard ravine]

If they do it better be a spinoff title man

[arctic grove]

I loved taking out a tank buy sitting on it and using your Repair Tool

i love the sliding

Imo I don't think we are going to get a normal bf game anymore

[hard ravine]

Give us an actual core BF game pleaseeeeeeeeee

[arctic grove]

doesnt make the movement as monotone and adds some sort of depth to the movement

These changes have been in the works for what 7 years or more?

[hard ravine]

The way the studio was up to release was awful yeah but we got the shakeup remember

Those games are just now in their infancy

[arctic grove]

all the community wanted from 2042 and dice was a copy paste of bfv with bf4/modern theme

[hard ravine]

Thats why im hoping were getting that title worked on now

[arctic grove]

dont get your hopes up

It's screaming into a void

[hard ravine]

Papa vince pls

[arctic grove]

vince zampella has taken over the franchise and 2042 is the stepping stone for the direction of the franchise

[short basalt]

I'd say screaming into a VOIP but yeah.. it's a legacy feature 😛 void is cooler

[arctic grove]

what dice want you to believe is happening with voip in the game

and all chat and a proper scoreboard

[short basalt]

I curbed my @arctic grove, sir.

[hard ravine]

Goodbye battlefield hello microsofts Call of Duty

[arctic grove]

It's like talking to someone and they relay back with the exact opposite from what's wanted. Like ordering a burger with no onions and getting it with onions

the activision blizzard acquisition might bring cod to the top once again

[short basalt]

@arctic grove with some extra cheese plz (no extra cheese -.-, still paid for it, no return or refund)

[hard ravine]

Either cod is going to go back to being smaller or we’ll get yearly campaign dlc it could go either way

[arctic grove]

there is internal discussion about them dropping the annual release cycle

[hard ravine]

I hope they do

[arctic grove]

as they finally seemed to realize after the failure that is vanguard that annual releases hurt the franchise

[hard ravine]

Either way IW’s title this year is gonna be

[vale wadi]

Battlefield in deep trouble

[arctic grove]

this could actually for once be real

[hard ravine]

Im tired of being fucked let em burn

[arctic grove]

mw 2022 will be the final game under bobby kotick

[short basalt]

Annual releases only make sense as money printing machine. However, people grew much wiser since 6-7 years ago. Annual releases are actually severely frowned up and this is now reflected in sales.

[arctic grove]

then daddy phil is taking over the business

[hard ravine]

I want phil to take me over

[arctic grove]

activision only just realized that after vanguard flopped big time

[hard ravine]

I still wanna play that campaign, just at like 25 bucks

[arctic grove]

i remember when they bundled cod 4 remastered with infinite warfare so that they could sell that game

[hard ravine]

Activision was desperate alot of the time for no reason

[arctic grove]

their billions in revenue aint enough for bobby kotick

[hard ravine]

True him and his lackeys were behind alot of the shitstorm

[short basalt]

Precisely... Good riddance I'd say. I have reasonable expectations from Microsoft, so let's see what happens. A 3 year release cycle would be the most optimal. Long enough for "live service" and for people to get excited for the "next thing". Live service with yearly releases doesn't make sense - it's a cash grab and not enough time for users to play and expore

[arctic grove]

and frankly that attitude is gonna change when microsoft (more precisely phil spencer) takes over in 2023

[hard ravine]

Spyro 4 where art thou

[arctic grove]

they dont really care about overmonetizing the fuck out of their games

they even lowered the mtx prices on halo infinite lmfao

[short basalt]

If I get to play MW2022 for 2 years with regular monthly or quarterly updates (maps, weapons, seasons etc) and then the 3rd year I get a new game, I'll be happy.

[arctic grove]

lowered

[hard ravine]

I want that halo infinite campaign dlc now

[arctic grove]

this could very well happen since the 70 bil deal will take effect starting 2023

and mw2022 will release in q3 of this year

I want my AMD stock to go back up 📈

[short basalt]

I also do believe in a new "Portal-like" experience to be the next thing in gaming if people see reason. This means single title, long-term content and evolution, F2P as basis, no pay-2-win.

[arctic grove]

i mean microsoft are kinda chasing the whole metaverse thing

Good maybe my msft will 📈

mw2022 might be the best cod in terms of longevity

[hard ravine]

2019 held on for awhile

[arctic grove]

it only got a year of support, this could change with mw2022

[short basalt]

Imagine being able to play on the new IW engine all previous notable CODs (COD 4, WaW, MW2, MW3, BO1, BO2, MW2019) in a single place. Dozens upon dozens of maps, weapons etc.. (What Warzone does but in a bigger way). This will definitely make COD the GOD FPS. And with Halo ownership, there can be cross-overs (aka huge metaverse)

[hard ravine]

Warzone started with 2019 tbf but i dont think we’ll get something that big again with 22

[short basalt]

And that's what I call METAVERSE. Not some VR bs (which Phil doesn't believe in anyway based on what he said so far) but one large FPS universe, for example. Halo + COD + GoW maybe? Would be very cool and creative - if executed correctly of course. The only other option if they don't do it right - is utter failure. So High Risk - High Reward imho

[arctic grove]

if mw2022 turns out to be good and gets years of support

it could be among the best cod releases ever tbh

[short basalt]

I always say this; quality over quantity... but in this case, with Microsoft's infrastructure, teams and support, quantity can also be part of the equation, if done CORRECTLY, ofc

[arctic grove]

When is BF2042 beta coming out guys?

[arctic grove]

microsoft delay their game if its half-baked though

[reef kestrel]

He locked his tweets rip. check on reddit r/battlefield2042

[arctic grove]

they have so much money to throw around and they dont really care about rushing out games before christmas

[short basalt]

Which is why I said I have reasonable expectations from Microsoft compared to complete and utter distrust to Activision

[arctic grove]

lmfao yes poor draco

microsofts gaming business isnt as huge as their software business

but draco is right, no one developer is responsible for the shit show

so quantity isnt the be all end all

[reef kestrel]

But they still made BF2042.

[arctic grove]

true buy ppl need to target their anger/frustration towards the higher ups that made those directions for the devs to follow

microsoft did like a 180 ever since spencer took over xbox lol

[short basalt]

Honestly, if BF2042 came to us this last year and told us; "Battlefield Portal" - that's our new title. I would've been x100 happier with "Battlefield Portal" as the standalone release without 2042 involved at ALL. We all begged for BF3 remake, for example etc... so this would have satisfied our cravings. And it COULD have been a great live service (more maps, more weapons etc added from older BFs into one "metaverse")

[reef kestrel]

He said himself he can't point X person.

[short basalt]

But damn man... what a missed opportunity it was..

[arctic grove]

prolly trynna hide things lmfao

[arctic grove]

ea gotta satsify its precious shareholders man

[reef kestrel]

But yeah some peoples didn't keep civilised and harassed him.

[arctic grove]

i think bf1 was the first bf which dice actually wanted to make without it being forced upon them by ea

[short basalt]

Man... the shareholders would've seen their shares double in value with BF Portal as standalone release. They do shoot themselves in the foot..

[arctic grove]

lets see what ea do with 2042 and the whole f2p thing

[reef kestrel]

Portal will be f2p

[short basalt]

They do have one chance - one opportunity - to do everything we ever wanted - one moment

[reef kestrel]

Source : trust me bro

[short basalt]

But they do have the wrong mentality.. they're going to screw this up. If we're to believe the leaks... if they make BF Portal F2P as an entrance to buying BF2042 - IT WILL FLOP. At this stage, the only redemption is to focus on BF Portal as the "main title"

[arctic grove]

im pretty sure no one wants to play portal rn

like go play the original games instead

[short basalt]

Because it's useless - limited maps, limited weapons, barely any XP, no unlocks, no progress - what's there to play it for? If these things are addressed - it can become useful and fun.

[earnest verge]

i only want to play portal actually, 2042 or bf3/bc dont matter, i still only play it in portal, so its double rip for me

[arctic grove]

dice legit made an official xp farm

[short basalt]

ikr... "slipped through their nets" aye

[arctic grove]

and then said it slipped past playtesting LMAO

[arctic grove]

Harassment is like extra wrong and extra cringe like em mferz need to grow. Yes DICE needs their asses seared in criticism but not that way!

thats like saying that you construct a house with obvious engineering flaws that are evident at first glance and then you go back and say that it slipped past validation

[reef kestrel]

Dev expectation vs Players expectation.

[arctic grove]

truly brutal expectations

Devs verse producers

I think producers went against devs decisions

[short basalt]

Neither EA nor producers are to blame for lack of a scoreboard - that shit is 30-40 years old in gaming industry. I had a scoreboard in my atari when I played bombardier games with friends at their house and we saved scores, aye? Let's put the part of the blame where it belongs. Schedule or not, a scoreboard is not a feature that required "scope, design and implementation" when you've literally had it for the past 15 years for the lifetime of the franchise.

[arctic grove]

Think their trying to change game dynamics to be more friendly organic family environment

Everyone is a winner there are no D's and F's here

[reef kestrel]

environment for the woke players.

[arctic grove]

you have to understand that the traditional scoreboard is too toxic and hurts the bad players' feelings man

[short basalt]

That's fine mate - still doesn't explain why there is no scoreboard - even without the "Deaths" counter.

[arctic grove]

its a snowflake scoreboard essentially

[short basalt]

Even if it was a producer decision to make it "family friendly, all feelings happy feelings" for a post-apocalytic game with expatriated forces - the lack of the scoreboard is still a technical decision or lack thereof

[arctic grove]

add to that the cringefest that is the specialists

[dusky blade]

They just need to add a scoreboard

[arctic grove]

This is what happens when you let feminist pick what features are in a FPS game

[dusky blade]

Yeah, apparently the design choices were on purpose

They went of their way to guard people

[arctic grove]

I think they're worried about influancers not playing the game because people would stream snipe, etc

So they did everything they could to hide people from others.

[dusky blade]

I dunno how making the game weirdly protective would do that

[grave prism]

WOOOOOOO F2P PORTAL

[dusky blade]

I just think it’s so people don’t get their feelings hurt over the death counter

[reef kestrel]

it not a scoreboard but leaderboard with no deaths

[arctic grove]

This was a huge issue with influencers they talked about it before launch. About anti hack stuff. Being able to stream and play etc.

Ejecting back to the main menu than new server each match makes it hard to follow people around the servers

Difficult to team switch, squad switch and view who is in the match all adds up in wanting to protect players from other players

[grave prism]

this is BULLCRAP

[earnest verge]

sounds plauseable, but it still sucks, they shouldnt make the game worse for the 99% that is not streaming the game if thats why they did it

[arctic grove]

It's my best educated guess as to way so many options are missing from a game that is meant to be community, team focused

[glossy storm]

Portal, the most positively received aspect of 2042, possibly going free to play... This just doesn't sit with me.

[arctic grove]

If they can keep streamers happy people will keep playing if their fav yt or twitch player is playing

[reef kestrel]

You know they could make a streamer option instead to force it to everyone.

It's just lazy work from dev side.

[arctic grove]

@reef kestrel mask usernames would be cool

[reef kestrel]

They are making the work harder because of a silly idea.

[arctic grove]

The industries like a giant infomercial now. The target is to get the popular influencers to like your product

[reef kestrel]

they fail.

this is what happen going for the trend.

[arctic grove]

Yep

[reef kestrel]

You can predict it at 99999999999km away in 2021

[earnest verge]

if u wanna focus on streamers and shit, having low content is def not the way to go, imagine playing this game for a living, 8+ hours every day, when u get bored to death after the first hour

[plucky plaza]

I dont think the whole game will be f2p tho i think a lot of ppl would be pissed lol

[arctic grove]

Go for the trend target the young gamers and isolate people while selling them cosmetics

[reef kestrel]

portal will be

[plucky plaza]

confirmed?

[arctic grove]

@earnest verge yeah I'm not sure. But some of the missing features seem to point in that direction

[slate snow]

Very pissed

[grave prism]

portal should be f2p from the start

[arctic grove]

there will be a flurry of lawsuits coming their way if they make the game f2p without meaningfully compensating the players who paid full price

[reef kestrel]

Portal should have his own progression if they plan to make it as a f2p.

[arctic grove]

It would be nice to hear more communication about the game. There are way to many assumptions floating around, and dice is a company known for changing things around for the better

[earnest verge]

they wont make refund, and they wont get sued for making it f2p, if anyone sue a games company its cause they did something that affected the stock price, nothin else

[grave prism]

not really, i dont play cod but dont the br f2p game and the vanguard or whatever cod that year is share the battlepass?

no need to make a whole different progression when you can just share it

[rocky valve]

Does this game still suck ass or what

[elfin aspen]

i hope microsoft buys EA

so microsoft can actually revive this game

[mental wind]

True

[fierce epoch]

Not much has changed, exp in portal is better now. Come back in a few months

[silk jasper]

Imagine having any expectations at all XD Hehehe

[elfin aspen]

the game is like corona nobody likes it

[oak herald]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yAFYw5c8kU

[rocky valve]

Thanks for the update

[tame cobalt]

making portal f2p and not the base game doesn't make sense

[rocky valve]

Will be back in 6 more months

[tame cobalt]

So the only thing you get for buying the game is breakthrough?

[elfin aspen]

it would be cool if they could add bf1 in portal

[drowsy sapphire]

Season 1 comes out in March, they have added new game modes to portal lately, that’s really it (of course they did a bit more but that’s just bugs and XP stuff)

[silk jasper]

Are they making Hazard and portal F2P or just portal

[rocky valve]

Are they really trying to decided to make the game free to play?

[drowsy sapphire]

Well they added 1942 so that’s it, portal isn’t supposed to have all the battlefields because then basically you would be paying $60 for 2042 AND a bunch of other battlefields

[surreal crystal]

Dying light 2 will kill this game

[mental wind]

Smh I bought golden edition

[drowsy sapphire]

They have it as an option, NOT officially happening, but it is said that it’s an option

[surreal crystal]

I feel u doe

[silk jasper]

Y'all ridiculed and laughed at me when I said portal may be going F2P a week ago, now it may actually become reality..

[mental wind]

And I deleted it☠️

[rocky valve]

Way to spit in every person that bought the games face, these producers and devs really like to fuck people

[surreal crystal]

But it didn’t so yeah

[drowsy sapphire]

At least now we know that’s the mentality EA has now

[silk jasper]

Satisfy the investors Fuck over your fanbase

[surreal crystal]

Bring back Anthem lol

[drowsy sapphire]

nah, bring back Titanfall lol

[grave prism]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-even-know-you-you-dont-even-go-here-dont-know-you-closed-off-black-ink-crew-gif-10965820

[surreal crystal]

Eyoooooo

[drowsy sapphire]

I don’t care if they say it’s a “back burner” MAKE SOMETHING THE PEOPLE LOVED

[left kraken]

BF2042 free to play when i need more players i hate play vs iA

[earnest verge]

we always known, but this was the nail in my coffin for sure, first they fuck up starwars, then they fuck up bf, there wont be another EA game for me in the future, to expensive early access i rather spend on 10 other games next time

[drowsy sapphire]

There’s no way they can mess up Titanfall… what could they.. possibly do…

[arctic grove]

They could remove the scoreboard

[vague panther]

clownfield 2042 is best game

[rocky valve]

And make it F2P 6 months after release

[surreal crystal]

Well EA doesn’t care about other franchises becoz i heard fifa 22 is a big success

[left kraken]

the only reason this game is alive is for crossplay.

[rocky valve]

The cross play is even mediocre at best

[azure lintel]

fifa 😂😂

[rocky valve]

Don’t underestimate fifa fans, they’ve been keeping EA alive all these years

[reef kestrel]

[arctic grove]

Crossplay but can't talk to your squad mate

[silk jasper]

and its so funny you see the occasional fanboy trying to defend this game and ea/dice on this discord 😂

[rocky valve]

Fuck this game

[surreal crystal]

Yup

[azure lintel]

im normally the 1st one to defend bf games but this....this is a joke of a game lol

[arctic grove]

I tend to defend them while bitching about it

[drowsy sapphire]

💀

[hard plume]

Discord my dude

[drowsy sapphire]

If they would do that to Titanfall 3 then… OOF

In reality I’m enjoying 2042, it definitely has bugs and glitches but I just keep my patience and deal with it

[azure lintel]

im enjoying it that much i uninstalled :)

[tame cobalt]

Just wanna say the Discarded map visuals + music creates an amazing atmosphere IMO

[azure lintel]

i hate myself to say it but i wish i got vangaurd instead 😂

[hard plume]

The game plays like a bf game, glitches and all. Shoot the glitches just makes it more like bf

[tame cobalt]

Really beautiful

[arctic grove]

@hard plume ps5 is still waiting for discord I think

[silk jasper]

if you want to even call white board scratching by the finger nails "music"

[arctic grove]

Still, only PC, not console players, can use discord voice channels and gameplay at the same time

Did anyone get the Bf2042 soundtrack

[left kraken]

YES

[hard plume]

Just do what i do, one ear discord one ear audio

[arctic grove]

Exactly, just grind to unlock everything on all weapons and vehicle. In one year, it's going to pay off..?

[surreal crystal]

Eyo anyone buying dying light 2 !??

[azure lintel]

ofc :)

[surreal crystal]

Lets goooooo

[hard plume]

I mean it’s paying off now. Games fun

[arctic grove]

Nice. I tried with two big headsets once listening on a podcast but it was NHL so no need for 3D sound

[hard plume]

I heard some people use big earphones and then underneath have earpods in for discord don’t know how comfortable that is

[arctic grove]

That's the way 😎

[crude trellis]

Stuns me the amount of cheating on PC.

[daring pawn]

I just got a collateral on orbital using the sws, I’m so fucking happy

[left kraken]

but youtubers said this game no have cheaters...

[crude trellis]

I recognize good players; and I recognize cheat players. There have been some impossible kills and spots otherwise.

Crossplay is the worst about BF2042. The rest is just annoying that can be ironed out...

[left kraken]

imagine pc only have 5000 players right now but with crossplay have more players. PC & XBOX AND PS5

[earnest verge]

u clearly cant, cause there are almost no cheating on 2042, the mayor cheating creating companies dont even make cheats for it, them that was, stoped and seased their service, im willing to bet you would call me cheater yesterday when i went 40-0, 37-4 and so fort on every map yesterday aswell

[crude trellis]

It is—why should anyone tolerate cheating...? You do know there are subscription services for PC cheating software..... or are you that naive?...

[earnest verge]

[crude trellis]

I don't deny it is possible on console — but less prevalent and far less effective than on PC.

[foggy tundra]

have bfv cheaters on console

like blatant autoaim bots

[earnest verge]

its not true that its much harder and much less cheaters on console vs pc, its the same thing by most metrics, most cheaters that make their own hacks do so to 1: beat the system, 2: beat other hackers, to prove they are good at what they do

[crude trellis]

You know you don't. Look up "sophistry". It's what you're doing.

Long enough for coders to fix it... yes, I already confirmed to you I'm angry. How much money has EA/DICE rolled into the bank on the back of the franchise?

[vital gate]

well well well that was fun

[silk jasper]

if you gonna turn off crossplay you'll be waiting ages to matchmake

[earnest verge]

"Long enough for coders to fix it" now that is one god damn funny comment if i may so so myself

[crude trellis]

Exactly...!

[left kraken]

exactly

[warm depot]

How can I refund battlefield 2042 on steam? I've played over 2 hours .__.

[foggy tundra]

thats a question for steam

[left kraken]

https://steamcharts.com/app/1517290

[arctic grove]

@warm depot send them a video of all the bugs you encounter

[warm depot]

I saw some redditors getting a refund

[silk jasper]

just send a request you'll be guaranteed to get it

[warm depot]

i've send 2 and they got both rejected

[silk jasper]

how many hours you got

[warm depot]

9 and I bought it in the pre release

[silk jasper]

those are auto rejected by a bot need to reach a real human

[warm depot]

How can I reach a real human?

[earnest verge]

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/6F69-0324-B2DB-6E7E

[arctic grove]

30 more minutes I'm off work and get to play Bf2042 - - easy in easy out

[foggy tundra]

paiks voice annoys me for some reason

[earnest verge]

i think she is hillarious, i enjoy it ❤️

[foggy tundra]

lol

[fierce gull]

Simp

[foggy tundra]

wow

rood

[fierce gull]

[earnest verge]

aint even ashamed of it, boris + paik ❤️

[foggy tundra]

more of a falck guy tbh

[fierce gull]

Angel + falck better

[arctic grove]

Boris is like 80 years old

[foggy tundra]

ew

[earnest verge]

irish also cool, one of the best looking specialists with standard gear on

[foggy tundra]

maria has one of the best skins

[river trench]

So players can play this game controller on pc but not mouse and keboard on console 😐

[earnest verge]

boris is a man in his best years, men age like a fine whiskey

[river trench]

Boris look like my teacher

[foggy tundra]

boris needs a chill pill

hes so aggressive

[arctic grove]

Boris is so blind he needs a turret that spots people for him

[earnest verge]

boris need turret buff before he can chill

[foggy tundra]

lmao

[swift plover]

EA & Dice Are So Disappointed In Battlefield 2042's Sales They're Considering Free-To-Play (Report). WTF!? I spent a lot of money on Gold Ed.... I want my money back!

[earnest verge]

[foggy tundra]

so youre just... gonna listen to rumors huh

[haughty dagger]

Bro it’s a rumor and nothing is confirmed yet.

[foggy tundra]

from a gaming journalist

makes sense

[haughty dagger]

“Journalist” aka clout chaser

[foggy tundra]

[earnest verge]

to be fair he didnt read more than the headlines from last week

[foggy tundra]

[swift plover]

Better be a rumor

[foggy tundra]

it is

theres 0 confirmation this is factually accurate