battlefield-2042

[glacial lantern]

Fuck.....

[hushed topaz]

they were at 6k players on steam an hour or so ago 😂

[worldly mesa]

Don’t buy on Origins ever lol, EA will never let you have your money back

[hushed topaz]

^

im glad battlefront 2 will get fixed soon so i can go back to that, cant believe that game got neglected by ea and dice for this piece of shit game

[glacial lantern]

I still hold onto it I guess cause I like playing BF3 portal/conquest with my bro on his PS5 since I'm on PC.

[hushed topaz]

portal is great

[signal cloud]

How to get a refund after 100 hrs ???

[hushed topaz]

just a bummer theres only so few weapons and nothing to achieve or unlock

[hushed topaz]

look up refund steam should get you there

[still vault]

Origin honor it within the refund period. Which means 24 hours since first starting it. Much better than Steams 2 hours. https://help.ea.com/en/help/account/returns-and-cancellations/

[glacial lantern]

Thanks but I have 100 hours+ xD

[still vault]

That's like getting a refund for a movie after watching it.

[glacial lantern]

Except the movie didn't have an ending and cut features out

[worldly mesa]

This is wrong. Origin won’t honor refunds outside the window when steam will. Got my game refunded months after and with nearly 100 hours in

[hushed topaz]

movies arent 100 dollars

[signal cloud]

xD

[hushed topaz]

and usually i dont feel scammed after watching a movie

[still vault]

Read what I wrote again, I was absolutely correct.

[worldly mesa]

Read what I wrote again. I got the game refunded on Steam well outside the refund window. Origin won’t even consider that

[earnest verge]

there is also the fact that ea dont respond to refund requests for several months, so 2 min or 24 hours makes little differance

[rapid steppe]

Look in art cinematica

[still vault]

I am not talking about incorrectly getting refunds outside the refund window.

[rapid steppe]

Why does my texture look like that with a 2070rtx

[hushed topaz]

@worldly mesadont bother bro

[slim quiver]

Its not incorrect btw, they do it on a case by case basis

[worldly mesa]

Not incorrectly. Many people have refunded 2042 outside the window because Steam is aware at how shit the game is

[slim quiver]

everything is relevant to how often a person refunds games on steam etc

your first refund on steam they are extremely lenient

my first refund was 2 months after i had bought the game

[worldly mesa]

I refunded BF2042 twice

[slim quiver]

and i had like 20 hours in a game but it stopped working

[slim quiver]

why even buy it twice

[hushed topaz]

steam has offered refunds for other games in the past, coz steam probably actually cares about its consumers

[loud ruin]

Ugh my 2042 won't update its so annoying

[worldly mesa]

Got the expensive version first, decided to get the cheaper one instead because I still wanted to play a cross platform game with my brother. He and I stopped playing so I refunded again.

[signal cloud]

bf should make refunds for everyone who wants for their reputation unless its thier end of career

[hushed topaz]

nah

[slim quiver]

steam mostly looks at trends and again they probably take into account how much you spend on your steam account

and how long you've been an account holder

[hushed topaz]

they need to make the game good not leave it in this state that will damage both companies even more

[worldly mesa]

As long as you guys mention performance issues with the game and state that you’ve seen Steam refund people outside the window on social media, they will most likely give you the refund. I’ve had 4 friends do the same thing and all 4 got refunds

[hushed topaz]

yeah steam takes a lot in consideration, theyre also more lenient to refund if you ask for a steam wallet refund than for a paypal refund

[slim quiver]

again each support specialist is also different

so id imagine its part "support discretion"

[signal cloud]

yes exactly cz il buy another game with the money i got

[worldly mesa]

Well they seem to be using that discretion pretty liberally with 2042

[slim quiver]

this is 100% true

[earnest verge]

not on ea, they will always say no 100 times first, even if ur in the rights, then eventually they say yes, IF your lucky enough to get a response to begin with

[slim quiver]

you actually can break the rules with the refund policy easily if you refund directly to steam wallet

the money will be spent anyways

[hushed topaz]

yep

steam makes no real loss then

[slim quiver]

meh it is what it is

[glacial lantern]

Is EA origin support outsourced to India?

[slim quiver]

again you guys should have played the 10 hr trial before buying

[earnest verge]

sure is, battlefield is the only thing i ever buy from them, but that has now changed aswell for sure

[slim quiver]

i bought the game but i didnt like it, it is what it is

i moved on from it 2 months ago

[signal cloud]

for sure i will not buy any new bf game

[glacial lantern]

It's more broken than liking or disliking it though.

[slim quiver]

to be fair you will never know if you will like something without playing it

[still vault]

I know they have offices in Ireland and the US but would not be surprised if they have in India and other places as well.

[signal cloud]

never in my life,and a lot of ppl will do the same

[slim quiver]

I never cared about the bugs tbh

i know a lot of people have talked about "bugs" or the game is "broken"

never cared about any of those things tbh

[hushed topaz]

i still have good hopes with 2042, it might never be a good bf game but it can turn out to be an alright game

[slim quiver]

i strictly dont like design choices for the game and thats about it

[placid pecan]

thing is bugs are just a minor inconvenience that you get over if youre having fun

2042 just isnt fun for a lot of people cause its fundementally broken at a game design level

[glacial lantern]

I was having fun shooting brain dead zombies lol

[slim quiver]

if you're someone who thinks the game is fun but its broken, then be happy, the game will eventually get plenty of fixes and you wont be upset anymore

[analog stirrup]

it's fucking boring

[hushed topaz]

yeah was nice while it lasted wouldnt mine playing it again even if i dont get any progression lol

[slim quiver]

can you elaborate?

nobody has a clue of what you mean when you just say its boring with 0 context

[analog stirrup]

live service hero shooter with 20 guns

[signal cloud]

i had enough already after more than 100 hrs ,i waited a lot

[analog stirrup]

open fields as maps

[slim quiver]

okay so 3 of those things dont seem to be what effects gameplay

[placid pecan]

live service is such a fucking failure

[slim quiver]

the hero shooter doesnt really exist

because we dont have 3 or 4 abilities and then an ultimate

[analog stirrup]

if you say so lmao

[slim quiver]

we really just have 1 ultimate gadget type thing

[placid pecan]

its boring being running simulator 2021

[noble tinsel]

So when does 2042 come out? this Beta sucks!

[hushed topaz]

i feel like calling it a hero shooter is such an unfair argument when you have bf3, bc2 and 1942 in portal

[placid pecan]

portal got gimped

[slim quiver]

portal isnt AOW

we cant compare portal to AOW

[placid pecan]

portal should have been main mode, AOW is trash

[analog stirrup]

portal could've been good, too bad the rest of the game ruined it

[hushed topaz]

maybe if they implement the portal maps into AOW it might improve

[noble tinsel]

maybe if they included an actual game people would be happier

[hushed topaz]

coz for me the maps are the biggest issue tbh

[slim quiver]

i didnt really care about portal tbh because the mechanics of 2042 still exist inside the game so it really doesnt help me

[placid pecan]

there was just so many bad decisions in the game as a whole its actually puzzling

[dense drum]

wait when are new weapons being added and i think the updates helped alot for the old gen concels

[indigo coyote]

they should've focused on one aspect of the game considering how stretched they seemed

[slim quiver]

they had a different vision

which is fine

[hushed topaz]

first season im assuming

[indigo coyote]

they had a vision? thats a surprise. it feels like they kept changing theyre vision

[placid pecan]

i think its worse than that, it has no design vision, it clearly was a troubled development covid aside

[analog stirrup]

the first trailer looked like a BF game then the tom brady/fortnite trailer dropped

[slim quiver]

i find it funny that everyone in this discord was laughing at call of duty for repeating their formula, saying how battlefield basically changes up how each title is because they care about the game and they decide to keep the series fresh by doing something new. Only for everyone at release to say they wanted the same old stuff again when it released.

[slim quiver]

Oh you work for the company? tell us what it was like to work on the project

[white geyser]

Tom Brady still playing in the year 2042, when will he retire?

[indigo coyote]

I don't think you need to work for the company to realize that...

[signal cloud]

i have 80+ fps in every game including rust,cod exept for bf2042 ,its always 40 - ,like what to expect better from this game

[analog stirrup]

covid lol do californians still use this excuse

[drowsy glen]

Squad Upppp

[slim quiver]

You kind of need to work for the company to know what the development was like and the fact to say there was 0 design vision. Yeah im sure you need some more insight other than a spectator to someone elses work

[fierce gull]

Welcome to battlefield

[indigo coyote]

except you don't because its obvious lol

[dense drum]

call of duty went down hill so quickly the past few years started at cod bo 4 then call od duty moderen warfare wasnt that bad was pretty good but then when down hill again

[glacial lantern]

We want them to repeat the formula! Not butcher the poor name lol 😆

[slim quiver]

the only thing obvious is that people are arm chair developers here and have no clue what theyre talking about because they dont work for dice or ea

[placid pecan]

it is obvious dude, look at the data

it started as a BR, morphed into this monstrosity

[analog stirrup]

yeah guys, go easy on DICE they're just a small indie studio. This is their first big project

[placid pecan]

how can your vision change so fundamentally half way through?

[slim quiver]

what data?

[fierce gull]

Oh boy

[white geyser]

🛠️🧰

[slim quiver]

How do we know this happened?

[fierce gull]

Tom Henderson data

[dense drum]

i say long as ea doesnt try to controll dice again and let dice do what they do best and maybe try to get some of the old developers it may sky rocket again

[slim quiver]

do we have official sources saying they switched the project direction?

[hushed topaz]

most people that worked on bf1 and other predecessors are gone now no? didnt they make a new studio and work on this game called arc raiders?

[daring pawn]

@fierce gull you work for ea don’t you?

[slim quiver]

that was post BFV

[fierce gull]

Yeah I'm a dice dev

[slim quiver]

after BFV ended, soderlund started embark studios

so that wasnt post BF1

[daring pawn]

Oh, so did you work on this game

[placid pecan]

lol tom hendersons vid blocked here, but occams razor

[stiff spruce]

is Tom Henderson banned from all the communities

[analog stirrup]

They hate him because he told the truth

[fierce gull]

Pretty much yeah
I worked on the guns but we were too lazy to make the models so we used free assets online that's why we only have 22 assets
We did this for other past battlefield games too and on bf4 we just copy and pasted the stats lmao

[dense drum]

@fierce gull what kind of weapons are u guys planing to add to bf2042 for the first season or in the next few updates

[placid pecan]

you couldnt possibly design a game this bad and have it turn out like this

[slim quiver]

and the ironic thing about all of this? everyone was laughing when soderlund left DICE and everyone was cheering, only for people to now be asking for him back since i mean he was heading this series since the very beginning

[fierce gull]

I'm joking lol

[dense drum]

;-; big sado

[slim quiver]

what a great flip flop scenario this has been

[placid pecan]

he wasnt exactly great with his words, but i miss all the old talent

[slim quiver]

honestly i loved that line

[hushed topaz]

why were people so happy about him leaving? because of bfv having a robot arm lady or what lol

[slim quiver]

If you dont like it, dont buy it

it was straight forward

[daring pawn]

Oh cool, did you have to sign a confidentiality?

[slim quiver]

and it was true

[mystic jackal]

cheeks

[placid pecan]

i think all of the guys in DICE are extremely talented but lacking some serious direction

[analog stirrup]

and people didn't

[fierce gull]

No we had to sign 2x the free food for the buffet area in the building

[slim quiver]

communities always talk about how developers are constantly lying and sugar coating things. Then they get mad when a developer doesnt lie and sugar coat things for them

damned if you do, damned if you dont

[daring pawn]

Oh lovely. So I’m just wondering but why did this game get pushed out? Like was it ea or investors?

[placid pecan]

yeah and its fine for you to develop a game to your ideals and then not have people buy it too 🤷‍♂️ but BFV was pretty good, woke shit aside

[slim quiver]

I cant see how people want Dice and EA to get better if the community just gets worse lmao

[fierce gull]

Idk the men in the black forced us to release the game

[slim quiver]

if we cant get better, how can we pass expectations on the company?

[daring pawn]

EA

[fierce gull]

Probably yeah

[signal cloud]

why EA bought cod graphics?

[placid pecan]

Make game, dont slap BATTLEFIELD on it to tap into a community that you arent catering to. EASY

[fierce gull]

We were planning to release the game on 2042 but they forced us to do it now

[slim quiver]

putting women in a game is not a woke thing

[fierce gull]

What?

[daring pawn]

Imagine a game in development for over 20 years, that game could be so amazing

[placid pecan]

i think the issue was a woman with a robotic arm, noone cared about women in WW2 just be accurate to the era

[signal cloud]

not sure ,but i remember bf get smthn from cod xD

[slim quiver]

ive played battlefield since the first one and I've had to play as a male character the entire time. It was nice I finally got to play a character i can relate to, since I've been just as much of a dedicated fan as anyone else. Giving players options in the modern age is what gaming is evolving into.

[mental delta]

And his tattoos, everyone started talking about her gender while it was clear that was a woman

[fierce gull]

Yeah we were planning to put classes in AOW and put specialists in hazard zone but they said they would 2x our salary if we put it in both

[slim quiver]

First, the prosthetic she had on was accurate to 1945 as that was a 1944 prosthetic. 2nd: she was never in the game at all beyond a trailer

[placid echo]

The face is still there but the prosthetic was gone.

[slim quiver]

people literally freak out over a damn trailer

its insane

[placid pecan]

Either youre making fiction or youre making a WW2 game with unknown battles - dont mix the two, be realistic and honor history

[stiff spruce]

welcome to society

[slim quiver]

people let a 2 minute animated video decide for them whether or not a game is good

[stiff spruce]

its like judging books by covers

[hushed topaz]

people will complain regardless

[placid pecan]

marketing fail then? i dont care i loved the game got my time out of it

[slim quiver]

if theres any counter argument for: "the customer is always right" its the gaming industry

[fierce gull]

People also shatted on bfv because it had women screams in the game

[mental delta]

But the trailer is the thing that gets the hype up or not for the players so I understand that the game was a mess, and for the protestic arm that's clear that a woman or man who wore that would not fight again

[elder mirage]

People getting worked about a woman with a prosthetic in the trailer when in the actual game you have Galilean optics and rifle prototypes that never saw service 😭

[placid pecan]

the customer is always right is not a real thing, even in real life

[visual kindle]

Can I have a sandwich

[slim quiver]

why does a trailer hype people up. Isnt the fact that a game thats been running for 16 years hype enough? the fan base is already established. Who actually cares about realism

[daring pawn]

I remember when the prosthetic armed woman was in the trailer and a lot of people started hating

[earnest verge]

this, and also dont forget everyone have red dot sights, that annoyed the shit out of me, but i LOVED bf5, the gameplay was awesome, and i was actually dissapoint the "robot" lady was not included, she looked badass

[slim quiver]

how does BF1 get a pass for realism when its highly unrealistic, even the trailer is highly unrealistic and it STILL got away with it

[placid pecan]

Why abuse 16 years of trust to release the likes of 2042? Remove everything the community wants and expects?

[slim quiver]

actually that would be 19 years by 2042 time

[hushed topaz]

bf1's trailer was fucking epic though it gave me actual goosebumps

[elder mirage]

People really have double standards when it comes to what they expect in what basically is a war fantasy

[analog stirrup]

it wasn't woke

[daring pawn]

Cause people don’t know what realistic is

[mental delta]

Lol I don't talk for myself, I bought the game even if I hated the trailer and I had many hours of fun on bfv, but if they mess with a trailer, that's obvious people will have a bad opinion about the upcoming as the trailer is seen as maneer to present the game

[slim quiver]

and also the guy who lead the project since the beginning stepped down after the BFV backlash. so my question is: Why would you lash out at the guy that gave you games that shaped the community in the first place?

[placid pecan]

BF1 took liberties with something people have no idea about but could only imagine, WW2 is something people know a lot more

[slim quiver]

putting women in a game isnt woke

[earnest verge]

yup, they should care more about the gameplay and the ammount of content, and less about the rest

[hushed topaz]

i guess its because the WW1 era is lesser known than WW2 era because of all the movies and such, people have a general idea abt how WW2 was

[indigo coyote]

Can't wait to receive my refund lol

[fierce gull]

Can't wait for it to get denied for buying a bf game at launch

[signal cloud]

same

[slim quiver]

they took WW1 and made a WW2 shooter about it. BF1 only used the theme of WW1 in their game, not anything else.

[mental delta]

And I don't talked about realism, we're all playing bf and cod games here and we don't do it because of realism, bf games are bot meant to be realistic, immersive maybe, and fun always

[placid pecan]

I didnt lash out FYI, I loved BFV, i just saw the controversy with the trailer and the wokeness and thought it was strange

[arctic grove]

Whats the update that came out about

[slim quiver]

im talking about the community in general

this idea of wokeness is so strange to me

[daring pawn]

I wonder if this game will be revived by season 1

[slim quiver]

people think the most minor things are woke

[fierce gull]

If they add Recker and metro instant revive

[arctic grove]

it wont lol

[slim quiver]

variety does not equate to wokeness

[daring pawn]

True

[slim quiver]

variety is just good for gaming because it gives options

[mental delta]

People talk too much about bfv while it's obvious bf1 wasn't realistic, it was pretty immersive but a lot of stuff wasn't actually in WW1

[slim quiver]

it creates new avenues of game design for players to use

[hushed topaz]

i dont think its about wokeness its more about people being able to relate to the character theyre playing as? thats the whole point of being able to customize your character

[elder patrol]

🇵 🇮 🇪

[slim quiver]

this

heres a news flash guys

the playerbase for battlefield isnt just men

ive been playing longer than some bf fans here and im not even a boy

[mental delta]

Who said that?

[elder patrol]

It also have pie in the player base

[scenic igloo]

And fix that bug of getting out of a vehicle and not being able to ADS

[hushed topaz]

in the end you can play whatever you want and if you really are bothered by seeing a black women in a ww2 game then just go find another lobby if that breaks your casual shooter immersion lol

[slim quiver]

the people complaining that you could be a woman in a BF game clearly have no realization that anyone could possibly want something like that

[elder patrol]

Cant forget about the gender neutral hermetic crabs either

[scenic igloo]

Also, hey, people!

[glacial lantern]

What does that have to do with BF? God this should be a general channel.

[edgy oriole]

just old 🙂

[fierce gull]

I think that's gonna be fixed for the patch in Feb
This is a small patch so I didn't expect anything huge

[slim quiver]

stop talking

[daring pawn]

Sundance is sick

[earnest verge]

[elder patrol]

😂

[slim quiver]

either way this community flip flops way too much

[hushed topaz]

yep

[elder patrol]

I wonder why??

[edgy oriole]

tru

[deep scaffold]

she is pretty sick

[orchid solar]

btw guys BF2042 is ded game

[jolly gulch]

💤

[analog stirrup]

we know

[slim quiver]

praise dice for releasing new feeling battlefield games every single title and make fun of cod for following a formula, to now hating dice because they changed your formula

[daring pawn]

Not dead but dying, might be revived who knows

[orchid solar]

thats why they make this game to F2P :3

[edgy oriole]

2042 BAD PONZI SCHEME DED GAME

[hushed topaz]

the games not dead though

[mental delta]

Lol they are fools, women are now going to be represented in video games and they have to accept that, but however I can understand the fact a lot of people would not get woman in a remake of an old bf game which hadn't had woman at this time

[orchid solar]

this shit never revived please... go to bed :(

[hushed topaz]

and wasnt f2p supposed to be implemented anyways? wasnt hazard zone going to be free right of the bat?

[fierce gull]

Game is still $60 for me

[slim quiver]

they should if they remake the game

[daring pawn]

Let me have a slice of hope 🥲

[undone bone]

First huge step would be limiting gadgets to specialist classes imo

[signal cloud]

nah its really ded

[scenic igloo]

Yeah. Good thing is at least it looks like they're working on some good things like the Nightbird doesn't seem to rubberband me anymore

[night vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/rendezook-battlefield-battlefield2042-team-fortress-2042-gif-22798065

[elder patrol]

God I love this chat, all hell breaks loose so fast

[glacial lantern]

Just give us regular classes and and throw the specialists ouuuuut

[daring pawn]

True

[placid pecan]

the problem with wokeness is you see an all female cast of ghostbusters with x amount of ethnicity represented and you wonder why that is creeping into a potentially historically accurate WW2 game trailer

[jolly gulch]

battlebit better than > 2042

[elder patrol]

Some pretty funny stuff

[scenic igloo]

And from what I've played performance improved "a hint"

[hushed topaz]

id like the specialists gadgets to be implemented with the normal gadgets and you get to pick 2 gadgets instead of one, so you could run a launcher and a repair tool for example or the smart grenade and a grappling hook

[mental delta]

Not to me, not because I have anything against woman lol, but only because the goal of a remaster or a remake is to make a more modern version of an old game, so no need to change that type of thing because that would just make a lot of people upset

[scenic igloo]

Wish 2042 went the route that game's going too

[elder patrol]

I wonder if the new saints row will be more "woke" than this

[slim quiver]

None of the battlefield games are historically accurate just going to put that out there

[analog stirrup]

it's worse

[scenic igloo]

Instead of adding cringy Specialists just add some cool customization like World War 3 in the Shop

[signal cloud]

im having fun reading comments here much more than playing bf2042 xDDDDDD

[slim quiver]

i dont know why in the modern age arcade game fans are suddenly asking for WW games to be 100% authentic and accurate

the WW2 games we had in the early 2000's were unbelievably inaccurate

and everyone got by just fine

[placid pecan]

thats why i said potentially, its what youd draw on paper reading history books or what youve heard or been taught

[scenic igloo]

Because of what Battlefield 1 and Modern Warfare did great and Vanguard and BFV did horrendously

[slim quiver]

BF1942 had experimental vehicles, jetpacks, a literal stealth bomber

[analog stirrup]

because only men were soldiers

[slim quiver]

Nobody cares

its a video game

[analog stirrup]

you obviously do

[placid pecan]

noone has issues with women in apex or overwatch

[slim quiver]

I mean you care women are in the game obviously

[placid pecan]

i dont have issues with women in battlefield, that trailer was just bad

[analog stirrup]

you keep bringing up gender all the time

[slim quiver]

"all the time"

[scenic igloo]

Don't get me wrong, BFV has its moments and Vanguard's Multiplayer isn't too shabby, but they are a sin to all soldiers who died in the World War

[slim quiver]

i just brought it up 10 mins ago

[elder patrol]

[analog stirrup]

and why did you?

[hushed topaz]

@analog stirrupthere were a lot of women who saw combat during ww2, Russia and Japan for example had women among their ranks

[slim quiver]

because it was part of what made people angry at BFV

it was trivial shit

[plucky plaza]

Are we rly debating whether a woman should be in a game or not

[daring pawn]

I just want either a vietnam or a new ww1 battlefield game

[hushed topaz]

apparently its still a problem for some people

[analog stirrup]

nobody is debating anything

[scenic igloo]

You remember the Finns who fought against Germany? No, you only remember a girl and her mom. Remember that cool Soviet sniper lady? No! It's Russia or nothing!

[elder patrol]

I just want a bf4 remake

[placid pecan]

agree with trivial, but misleading to the games tone

[slim quiver]

they dont support BFV, they wait until BF2042, then they hate 2042 and say "BFV actually was a good game" its stupid

[hard plume]

Ph what, you telling me people didn’t jump out of jets in the sky and used a rocket launcher on an enemy craft before hopping back in their jets? I’ll have you know my grand dad did that during the second gulf war.

[slim quiver]

the tone is that its a video game

[unborn heart]

Cycle of BF entry life, that

[placid pecan]

BFV was a great game, 2042 is not

[slim quiver]

somehow this doesnt break immersion but a girl with a prosthetic does

[hushed topaz]

how long did it take for bf4 to become a great game honestly?

[analog stirrup]

wow, relax

[hushed topaz]

lets just wait that long for bf2042 only then we will truly know if this game was a flop or decent

[scenic igloo]

Still, V delivered a good overall campaign. Not as cool as 1's but it made up with The Last Tiger

[unborn heart]

I don't think 3 or 4 were particularly great 3 months in either, really

[placid pecan]

because its not a part of the game historically, its not a part of the actual history, it was purely put there for wokeness

[mental delta]

Some do and I find it normal, no problem with seeing women in modern fps games, but seeing woman in jungle during Vietnam would be weird af tbh

[slim quiver]

people unironically defend random impossible events that defy physics as "battlefield moments" and then peddle this gate keeping mentality to protect their idea of "immersion"

[unborn heart]

The Last Tiger was really good... Tirailleur actually beat it for me when I played it on hard difficulty though

[daring pawn]

Just asking but in ww2 anyone that lost an arm or a leg were just sent home, right?

[scenic igloo]

I just wish 2042 had a campaign with all the lore they already gave us instead of a "Don't be sad! This is just how it works out sometimes!"

[hushed topaz]

exactly, im willing to wait for the first season in 2042 if that disappoints it might be a deal breaker

[hard plume]

I read the forum post, they weren’t perceived well at all but now they’re “classics”. Which makes me really old. I don’t like it.

[scenic igloo]

Tirailleur is underrated. I quite like it too

[slim quiver]

so anytime you allow someone to be a female in a war game that is a historical time piece, it is for wokeness and not simply for allowing people to have options?

[hushed topaz]

depends what country you were in mate

[scenic igloo]

The first mission is a bit jokey and that's what I like about it

[daring pawn]

Say US?

[unborn heart]

Not necessarily, Rudel flew with prosthetic leg, for example, ditto Bader

[daring pawn]

How about ground troops?

[hushed topaz]

yeah you were most likely sent home, honorable discharge

[unborn heart]

There were cases of infantry troops fighting with prosthetics too, especially officers

[mental delta]

It tells a story we will never hear about in history books neither tv shows

[glacial lantern]

War is hell. And most people don't like seeing women killed. But obviously they still fought.

[hard plume]

A lot of the guns used weren’t historic either.

[daring pawn]

Ngl bf2042 campaign could’ve been so sick

[slim quiver]

its a good thing battlefield is a video game isnt it

[scenic igloo]

Yeah. Those poor French guys…

[unborn heart]

Of course, not everyone was an absolute madman like Adrian Carton de Wiart, but it happened

[mental delta]

They were probably a huge minority

[hushed topaz]

if you were to only implement the guns that were used during ww2 people will complain about there being a limited variety of guns, so in the end people will always complain really

[scenic igloo]

I just wish they had a Soviet Union expansion for BFV so it'd make a little more sense to have them there

[hard plume]

That’s who i was thinking of. I got downvoted for mentioning him back im the day or a “that was just one guy”

[daring pawn]

Doesn’t vanguard (a game based in ww2) have guns from 1947?

[cobalt sedge]

Do anyone follow Tom Henderson on Twitter ?

[unborn heart]

I remember how Hellriegel was public enemy #1 in BF1 for a long time... gun that never really got used.

(it wasn't that good of a gun in game, funnily enough)

[slim quiver]

no developer needs to pull out the history books and blacklist features from being included just because it doesnt match up with the text. This is why BF1 was popular: they implemented guns that either A. were blueprint, B. Scarcely produced and or C. weapons that actually existed but with features that were mostly scarce as well

[sullen inlet]

EA is reportedly very disappointed with how Battlefield 2042 has performed and is "looking at all the options" when it comes to the title, this is including looking at Free to Play in some capacity.
https://twitter.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1484261137818525714

[hard plume]

How dare you, battlefield is a way of life!1!111

[scenic igloo]

Because the Soviets were huge for WWII and they used women in the frontlines

[noble moth]

Best assault specialist guys?

[placid pecan]

It stands out. Battlefield is lots of nameless, faceless soldiers, always has been. Now we have a woman in fancy dress? It could have been a man too, similar hate to the specialists now. Not a gender thing

[slim quiver]

not to mention they allowed the support class to sprint full speed with some of the machine guns that were over 100 pounds

[cobalt sedge]

Yes.. That also just caught my attention

[slim quiver]

name a woman that wore a fancy dress in any battlefield game

[hushed topaz]

think so, but vanguard has a whole weapon customization that in reality would break a gun so i dont think they were too focused on the time setting lol

[unborn heart]

Angel, if you spare a few minutes to sort your loadouts

[hollow arch]

You guys ready to back to BFV?

[glacial lantern]

As long as they compensated paying customers, Idc if the game goes f2p. Better have good cheat protection though.

[hard plume]

A faceless soldier can’t be a woman? That’s dumb.

[unborn heart]

Paik makes a good case too if you do room breaching, and Falck's ability to heal is a solid card to play too

[analog stirrup]

i'm hoping for BF3 to get a community again

[cobalt sedge]

I feel bad for everyone working at DICE..

[placid pecan]

it can?

[slim quiver]

yeah im wondering this myself

i guess women cant be faceless

[arctic grove]

Caustic is the best in Apex legends

[hollow arch]

2042 goes ftp expect no support

[scenic igloo]

[placid pecan]

i never said man or woman, i said soldiers

[hollow arch]

EA won’t sink resources into f2p

[glacial lantern]

Not likely.

[unborn heart]

Fun fact, that's a screenshot I made

[placid pecan]

which can be men or women

[scenic igloo]

LMAO

[hard plume]

So what’s the problem? Add faceless woman than.

[analog stirrup]

they will if they have to

[slim quiver]

okay so then you'd be fine with faceless men and women soldiers then

[cobalt sedge]

I do not hope for a F2P plan.. I hope they will instead compensate the players and keep working on BF2042.

[placid pecan]

of course?

[hollow arch]

You guys got what you wanted. Bf 2042 will get canned.

[slim quiver]

so how did battlefield V not do this?

[glacial lantern]

I think it should be the norm for all soldiers in BF to wear balaclavas.

[slim quiver]

they just allowed you to customize soldiers but they were still just soldiers

[hollow arch]

GJ

[elder mirage]

I’m honestly more annoyed by the gaudy red and black mastery skins on everything, over the concept of specialists lol

[mental delta]

I don't have any problem with women in video games but the specialists thing is weird and it doesn't deserve representation of strong women tbh lol

[placid pecan]

I didnt say it didnt? i said the trailer was bad

[slim quiver]

absolutely not lmao

[analog stirrup]

the sooner the better

[glacial lantern]

Just my opinion of course. You obviously disagree.

[unborn heart]

To be fair, I usually notice that I got killed by a T1 skin vehicle versus a T5 camo one only when I'm already dead

[elder patrol]

I want custom death voice lines in 2042

[hushed topaz]

a balaclava is rly uncomfortable in a desert that would break my immersion!!!!!!! AAA

[mental delta]

And I don't see if you guys play cod but seeing how infinity ward sexualized woman in MW I am not sure that was a good idea to sell woman skins like this

[scenic igloo]

I an just hoping for a big Season 1 update with at least 2 weapons per type and one or two awesome maps. Then for Portal adding in BF4 or Vietnam content with Operation Locker and Paracel Storm (but I can wait for Portal stuff)

[unborn heart]

When I'm alive, I'm too busy trying to keep my sights in the right place and preferably avoiding dying to a rocket

[placid pecan]

all i said was the trailer for BFV was trash and misleading

[slim quiver]

2042 is going to be a game people will enjoy when the next battlefield comes out id imagine, because thats how this cycle is. thats exactly how this community reacts i guess. I thought BFV would never get love, turns out it did, it just took 3 years for it to happen

[remote bison]

@analog stirrupwhat does getting canned mean?

[placid pecan]

doubt that very much

[hollow arch]

@analog stirrup why stay on this chat? Go play Bfv, so that player count increases. I only come here periodically to listen to the trolling.

[hushed topaz]

im so afraid of getting disappointed tbh

[slim quiver]

I said the same for BFV

[hard plume]

Felt chaotic. Like bf game. So it was accurate for me

[slim quiver]

and look at the end result

[analog stirrup]

i'm in bfv right now

[slim quiver]

I do know one thing though

[placid pecan]

I loved BFV and I thought it had an ok reception, it had a lot more positivity than 2042 has

[slim quiver]

When people say the BF community is this community filled with “mature older adults” I just can’t help but laugh

[mental delta]

I am not sure, everyone keep saying that but they need to know this game is really "special" in his kind

[placid pecan]

and 2042 is the only one i havent bought outside hardline

[hard plume]

The circle continues. I want to work on collage so I can post it when the new game comes out.

[scenic igloo]

2042 will be the next BF4, BFV and Battlefront 2. Broken at launch with unfair stuff and then beautiful after some updates and polish

[fierce gull]

Mature

[cobalt sedge]

Personally I enjoyed BFV. But it felt like much the same as BF1. The same (kind) of weapons and such. If there would have been a other type of BF in between I'm sure BFV would have gotten more praise that it did. Visually it was and still is amazing.

[elder mirage]

My annoyance with high mastery skins is directly proportional to my tendency to die often 😂

[slim quiver]

Gameplay wise it’s still amazing

[unborn heart]

1 and V differed a ton with gun behavior, to be fair

[tame vine]

only if they fix 2042 in the long run, then manage to screw up the next bf yet again

[placid pecan]

imo 2042 is already in the death spiral, theres no way they can continue to live service the game with the playerbase. They cut BFV over way less

[hushed topaz]

the communities that have those people are usually milsims ngl lol

[slim quiver]

Hell honestly I wanted another BF Vietnam game or a BF Korean War game

[fierce gull]

Its dice so this is probably gonna happen lol

[unborn heart]

dies to T1 Nightbird
aha, will be one of them rounds
equips Stinger

[hard plume]

Never got into bf 1 and 5. Old wars aren’t my jam

[river trench]

Someone told me bf2042 is going to be free is that true?!?!?

[slim quiver]

Yeah and people have been thinking BF is strangely some sort of milsim title

[hushed topaz]

is there even a single triple A korean game??

[scenic igloo]

Best movement system ever. Hopefully with time DICE add some things from that system to 2042, like the Combat Roll and Leaning

[fierce gull]

We don't know
It's not confirmed they said they have other plans

[glacial lantern]

2142 revival.

[slim quiver]

Don’t think so

[daring pawn]

Dod they made a vietnam battlefield before?

[unborn heart]

I'm lucky that annoying anything capable of flying has always been something I loved doing

[slim quiver]

Yes

[hard plume]

Doubtful. Just a rumor

[slim quiver]

One was a DLC and the first BF Vietnam game was the 2nd BF game

[placid pecan]

hazard zone should have been F2P from beginning

[hushed topaz]

damn all these companies really taking Ls then.. so much content you could have in that setting

[vivid nacelle]

in hindsight, I really shouldve invested in Bitcoin, fk Id be richt

[elder mirage]

There’s actually a fun little bug where if you stand within use range of Angel’s load out crate, you get instant stinger lock ons on helos. Happens about 30% of the time

[fierce gull]

Ikrrr

[placid pecan]

maybe not now

[hushed topaz]

during BF4 they had some milsim "clans" that would play hardcore games but even then the gameplay is too fast paced

[slim quiver]

It’s a good setting

[unborn heart]

Spare a thought for poor bastard who paid for his pizza with bitcoin back when bitcoin was worth bugger all

[mental delta]

You'll not see a Korear war bf

[slim quiver]

They had that before even BF4

[hushed topaz]

oh yeah i remember in BF2 they did it as well I dont know anything before that

[fierce gull]

We need another Korean war and they will make one

[hushed topaz]

i was very young back then anyways dont think i was even playing games at that time

[mental delta]

Okay that's my turn to put this

[scenic igloo]

BF works really well for Mil-Sim though and made it popular with BF2 and Project Reality (which inspired Squad and Hell Let Loose). Even to this day BF3 Mil-Sims on Portal are abundant and impress

[slim quiver]

I would like a battlefield Civil war game or Wild West spin off game. I’d like that a lot

[mental delta]

I don't hope so

[placid pecan]

i have 8 bitcoins lost in the nether of an old harddrive

[slim quiver]

Oh yeah I know I’m aware. But the base game has always been arcade

[scenic igloo]

I think it'd do as well as Hardline did, but would be a cool little oddity

[fierce gull]

You depressed?

[mental delta]

That's also why 2042 is a mess for the moment, that shit isn't milsim enough

[placid pecan]

nah you win some you lose some, would be nice though

[hushed topaz]

WOW never thought I'd see the name Hardline again literally forgot about that game years ago

[slim quiver]

Technically the first battlefield WW1 game was out 12-13 years before BF1

[unborn heart]

I like WW2 as a setting in terms of weapons/equipment, but I get that people are burned out on it.

(I still think modern combat was overdone in late 2000s/first half of 2010s way more than WW2 was in late 90s/early 2000s though)

[slim quiver]

BF 1918 was an overhaul mod for BF1942

[earnest verge]

yes

[scenic igloo]

Go to Portal. There's some awesome Mil-Sim stuff there

[slim quiver]

Added completely new guns and a ton of factions and maps and vehicles

[hushed topaz]

tbh ww2, modern day and future settings are so milked out at this point

[slim quiver]

I just want Korean War and Vietnam

[fierce gull]

Proximity voice chat in settings for portal would be cool for mislim servers

[analog stirrup]

FPS games are milked out

[unborn heart]

It's not even that they're milked out, it's that very specific parts of them have been done so many times

[earnest verge]

big yes, battlefield vietnamn, the old game, was so god damn lit

[hushed topaz]

theres so many settings they could even create their own setting if they are creative enough.. then again people might complain about something being a game that does not exist at all lol

[stiff spruce]

weve ran through every good idea

[scenic igloo]

They spoke about VOIP, so hopefully they bring proxy chat too

[mental delta]

Not enough for most of players, specialists are not milsim and facts are here, people want a complete milsim game not a tier of bf game which is milsim

[unborn heart]

I mean, we've seen a silly amount of Normandy, Stalingrad or even North Africa, but there have been so many other fronts

[drowsy shuttle]

lol they removed the zombie mode because of xp farm? looollll the funny part was yesterday there was a Dice Dev on my squad farming the "zombies" for xp... at least he had the Dice Dev on his tag.. im assuming only devs have that tag, right?

[hushed topaz]

cyberpunk battlefield would be sick with all the neon lights

[arctic grove]

i want a dope milsim civil war game

[fierce gull]

People usually use bf3 content for the mislim servers

[hushed topaz]

that too i guess but even if they made any of these games in any other different way i think i would still be less interested than a whole another setting

[slim quiver]

War of rights exists

[arctic grove]

i wonder if my laptop can run it

[unborn heart]

(you can throw as much North Africa as you want at me though, it's the front I'm most interested in)

[slim quiver]

Maybe

[earnest verge]

i still dream of a battlefield fantasy game that includes nordic countries, including submarines and all

[slim quiver]

I actually like playing war of rights

It’s funny having no shoes as a confederate

[scenic igloo]

I had the BF of my dreams with 2042 as a concept. Then it released…

[unborn heart]

...now you randomly reminded me how badly I want Warhammer 40k: Space Marine 2 to be good, but I digress.

(40k desperately needs a good shooter)

[arctic grove]

is that the one where the officers can draw lines in the sand to make up firesquads and stuff?

[mental delta]

Yes because that's the more milsim game, and that's fair, I totally understand that a lot of players want a true milsim game like bf3 and bf4

[scenic igloo]

If they went for a similar take to BF4 and BFV and forgot the scale to focus on performance it would've been GREAT

[earnest verge]

you and me both brother, the new rts looking dope too

[stiff spruce]

what about a Weeb character shooter

[hushed topaz]

i honestly loved TItanfall's setting, also KillZone had a great setting, thats near future but still a little different

[slim quiver]

Milsim btw does not get a lot of players for a reason

[slim quiver]

I’d play

[slim quiver]

BF3 and 4 are not milsim

[earnest verge]

❤️

[foggy crest]

i want advanced warfare 2

[unborn heart]

Yeah, funny how one Warhammer setting killed off by Games Workshop (Fantasy) is having a full-on renaissance in video games

[slim quiver]

Not a single BF game is milsim

[hushed topaz]

+1 i could care less about anime girls being in a shooter

[topaz crown]

I forgot the name of it, but there's a BF3 milsim

[scenic igloo]

If people say "but what's so next-gen about this BF game?" spank some RTX and a 120hz mode for next-gen and you're golden

[stiff spruce]

EFT is the mil sim experience now

[slim quiver]

Not even milsim either

[hushed topaz]

EFT is so bad... not even a milsim i feel like

[slim quiver]

Tarkov has some of the most unrealistic armor ever made

[mental delta]

When I talk about milsim I am not talking about realism or immersion, just game atmosphere like real soldiers outfits and real weapons

[topaz crown]

Ready or Not?

[earnest verge]

agreed, battlefield is a good middle ground, not to arcady, not to milsim, on hardcore servers its just perfect for me

[fierce gull]

Can I get a battlefront 2 crossover in portal so I can do Darth Vader vs Us Marines

[hushed topaz]

Ready or Not is amazing

[slim quiver]

BF4 had a rail gun and hover tanks

[foggy crest]

tell me a perfect milsim game in your opinion

[unborn heart]

Ready or Not has potential... it gives off a vibe of old SWAT games

[slim quiver]

The rail gun also was in your hands

[slim quiver]

Swat 4

[topaz crown]

Ready or Not is so beautiful

[scenic igloo]

More of a SWAT-Sim than a Mil-Sim

[slim quiver]

Ready or not is an incredible game

[stiff spruce]

what about Insurgency series on steam

[slim quiver]

Arcade game with milsim damage

It’s just a hardcore arcade shooter

[remote bison]

what about DCS?

[stiff spruce]

true you are right

[unborn heart]

SWAT 4 with people you knew was essentially being back at school, except you can shoot each other with stun guns

[slim quiver]

What is that?

[hushed topaz]

for me Arma 3 comes really close, maybe Squad too

[mental delta]

In final DLC which was more a huge reference to bf2142, so that's absolutely not representative of the game but ok lol, keep talking about irrelevant things

[stiff spruce]

isnt DCS a flight simulator

[slim quiver]

LMAO

[foggy crest]

ok ok

[unborn heart]

I know I just made it sound like I went to school with psychos

[slim quiver]

I mean there are other things that made no sense in bf4

[remote bison]

search it watch some videos flight sim military aircraf only

[slim quiver]

Hey guys remember when you could do this in BF4

[stiff spruce]

remember when games were more fun

[hushed topaz]

we do a little bit of trolling

[unborn heart]

I was more the Noob trying to do the rendezook in "They Ruined Battlefield" episode

[fierce gull]

Pffttt that's nothing
We can crash jets with the hovercrafts in 2042

[slim quiver]

Honestly C4 to lift a tank up was probably the most immersive thing ever

[hushed topaz]

games are fun you just gotta look for the hidden gems now because of how massive the industry has gotten in the last decade or two

[mental delta]

Of course, that game isn't perfect and for a lot of reason, but at least they were soldiers outfits and a lot of weapons

[slim quiver]

Oh god no please you didn’t

[arctic grove]

why did they remove the farm?!

[hushed topaz]

because xp farm bad 👎

[fierce gull]

Dice did a trolling to PVE players

[unborn heart]

I did not try to zook and I sure as hell didn't try to do it with EOD bot in loadout

[arctic grove]

well

[slim quiver]

Yes a lot of weapons that for the most part we don’t actually use commonly in combat. The outfits yes were probably the most authentic

[unborn heart]

But my general level of gimmick competence outside my flare special wasn't much better

[scenic igloo]

When BF was goofy because of physics that were still tolerable? I do

[slim quiver]

Honestly if you want authentic games just play squad

[hushed topaz]

^

[slim quiver]

90% of your guns are the same M4

[stiff spruce]

[unborn heart]

I may or may not have cheesed Phantom bow mastery by aiming at my own C4 though. But shhh

[stiff spruce]

it has that radio chatter noise which is cool

[fierce gull]

Wait does your character in bf4 even hold the grip attachments for your gun?

[hushed topaz]

squad is an amazing game just not for the bf community lol they will die every couple minutes and blame it on the game being "bad"

[slim quiver]

Believe so yes

[stiff spruce]

6.1k online on Squad rn

[hushed topaz]

yessir

[mental delta]

Totally true, you don't have a lot of chances to see a soldier using an f-2000 or AK-5C, but at least they exist, unlike in some modern fps games

[scenic igloo]

The AK-5 is used by Sweden

[slim quiver]

The milsim community in general suffers by usually having small communities in general. It’s a blessing and a curse

[hushed topaz]

Belgian military uses F2000's and AK5C is also a gun used by the Austrians I believe not sure about that one

[earnest verge]

and its awesome, my most used gun in bf4 by far

[slim quiver]

A lot of people wish that they could have bigger communities

[fierce gull]

Made from Ikea

[hushed topaz]

Sweden yeah it was Sweden

[scenic igloo]

I love it too. So accurate…

[slim quiver]

But the game design itself and the mentality of the players gate keep the game

[scenic igloo]

I think I don't use it as much as the AN-94 and Groza-1, but it's still good

[earnest verge]

yes but good!

[slim quiver]

The fact that players having power over you in that game too is a very flawed design

[edgy oriole]

i dont like milsim just for the fact i dont wanna take 85 years to clear a building or something. lol

[hushed topaz]

I wish games would implement the FNC more that gun is so well made

[earnest verge]

ak5 and köttbullar

[slim quiver]

Well you have to understand milsim games aren’t about getting 50 kills a game

[scenic igloo]

Also, does anyone even remember the BF4 Groza-1? Underrated as heck! Would love to see a futuristic rendition in 2042

[fierce gull]

Rip to Mislim players if they add a city map

[slim quiver]

Sometimes you’re lucky if you see 8 people in a 50 minute game

[hushed topaz]

ive had milsim games where i had 0 kills but still had a blast with completing objectives

[fierce gull]

Holy fuck I said that wrong

[slim quiver]

Because people are sitting 300 meters away shooting 1 shot at a time at you from a tree line

[mental delta]

But they also use some American weapons + Sweden isn't implicated in a lot of conflicts, so you don't see any ak-5c in actual war footage

[unborn heart]

It was a curious gun, a bit wild, but fun to use once you got used to it

[hushed topaz]

the thing i love the most about Squad is when at the start people will sing Im a barbie girl in the truck but as soon as you're on the field they take it more serious

[daring pawn]

The new map better be amazing

[fierce gull]

We better get a destroyed NYC or Boston map

[mental delta]

Yeah I know that those guns are in actual service but in bf4 they were over represented compared to the amount of time they get used in modern conflicts

[remote bison]

@daring pawn their solution better be amazing otherwise game is forgotten

[noble moth]

Destroyed nyc be sick

[earnest verge]

only in Afghanistan, Bosnien, Cypern, Libanon, Nordmakedonien, Kosovo, Mali, Tchad, Liberia

[scenic igloo]

Yeah. Sweden's in peace with everyone (except the BF community now because DICE is taking some heat now)

[daring pawn]

Yeah

[scenic igloo]

I hope we get a map on London like the Exodus movie possibly teased at

[hushed topaz]

they were used a lot during modern conflicts, just not in Iraq or whatever. There's more conflicts happening than you'd expect tbh

[fierce gull]

That would be a cool map

[slim quiver]

Dice taking heat from the community is the dumbest thing imaginable. It’s fine to not like the game but people shouldnt give the devs heat

[scenic igloo]

Or a Rio de Janeiro map where the map is flooded like the artwork shown for Webster Mackay

[hushed topaz]

Devs are just doing their job, they do what theyre asked to do

[unborn heart]

If we want to talk the ultimate overrepresented guns in video games, Striker (DAO-12) wants a word

[scenic igloo]

It's an unfortunate thing definitely

[slim quiver]

All it does is hurt the community anyways

[scenic igloo]

^

[slim quiver]

And the devs won’t listen to people basically send threats and such

[cobalt sedge]

DICE have little to no fault for this. Blame EA more than DICE tbh.

[slim quiver]

As a community we need to do better

We have a right to say our piece about the game but separate the art from the artists

[tame cobalt]

Big chungus

[cobalt sedge]

EA build the hype up, and DICE taken the heat.. Thats not close to be fair.

[slim quiver]

All the devs are living breathing people with feelings and we need to respect that. We shouldn’t even “need” to, we should want to respect them and how they feel

[scenic igloo]

I'm not blaming DICE, just saying they are the people getting shot at currently, which is ridiculous

[fierce gull]

As the leader of this new clan we are about to start
Spam #Save2042 everywhere except this server

[foggy crest]

zzzy giving speech guys

[slim quiver]

They don’t owe us, if anything we owe them because we are not putting the time in to make it

[mental delta]

Lol compare the amount of Sweden and Belgian soldiers in the coalition troops, you'll find a lot of them, major part of coalition soldiers are American, British, German, French, so major part of weapons are neither f-2000 or ak-5c

[slim quiver]

We are simply consumers

[tame cobalt]

#Save2042

[slim quiver]

We buy what others create

[fierce gull]

#Save2042

[slim quiver]

We do the least amount of work

[cobalt sedge]

Yes.. agree.

[tame cobalt]

[earnest verge]

i was just pointing out that ak5 was indeed used abroad and lots of places

[round crow]

Second the game starts I get fucked up by some fuckboy in a helicopter so i left no point on playing a trash map like kaleidoscope with bad spawn

[unborn heart]

While I might not work on Battlefield, I can still confirm that I generally do have feelings most of the time

[scenic igloo]

Resuming: Let's trashtalk EA's CEO instead because he's the moneymaker who only lets Respawn do what they want and make DICE lose their community

[cobalt sedge]

Are you with EA or DICE?

[hushed topaz]

tbh most people did pay for a product with expectations that were created by the creators, and 60-120 USD isnt necessarily a small amount so i understand some of the frustration

[mental delta]

Lol I know, just compare the amount of american and russian troops to sweden or Belgian troops and you'll see that's over represtated + these countries use a lot more US weapons than you expect

[foggy crest]

there is only one game i hated and its DEATH STRANDING even in that game i love graphics of that game

[round crow]

Like whoever thought of these maps needs to to be beaten with a rusty pipe covered in salt and vinegar

[earnest verge]

i thought all apex players was machines

[fierce gull]

Hey Niko let's go bowling

[iron kraken]

hey why was zombies removed? i wanted to finishing cheesing all my t1s lol

[mental delta]

Lol Sweden people are probably fine I guess, just Dice making an exception

[cobalt sedge]

ah.. Respawn / Apex it seems.. Thank you for Apex. What a great game.. I still enjoy that.

[unborn heart]

EA Spain, localization. Essentially, we aid any EA family studio that has their game localized, be it DICE, Respawn, Hazelight or whoever else

[hushed topaz]

well since Russia and America is so massive I feel thats to expected but that doesnt take away all the work the Swedish Armed Forces or the Belgian or any other country their military does

[round crow]

@unborn heart do you know much about dlc with this game?

[mental delta]

Agreed, just not as used as russian weapons for example

[unborn heart]

EA has support studios that basically help dev studios with certain elements of development process. EA Spain is one of such, but it also includes Bucharest, Galway, Baton Rouge and many other

[round crow]

It'd be kinda cool if they added a few J2F2 soldiers from the Canadian armed forces

[cobalt sedge]

Madrid right ?.. When I was with EA on FIFA, we had localisation and translating from the Madrid studio.

[unborn heart]

Even if I did (which I don't, I don't work on BF), I wouldn't just throw it around

[scenic igloo]

Would you be happy if EA was bought by Microsoft like they did with Activision?

[unborn heart]

Yep, Madrid still very much handles FIFA loc, although it's not my loc team

[mental delta]

Lol I'm not taking away the sacrifices of any country's troops, all those person deserve a lot of respect, I just compared the use of weapons in actual conflicts

[round crow]

Do you have an idea when they will be adding VOIP?

[hushed topaz]

Squad has canadian forces

[scenic igloo]

Guy just said he doesn't work on Battlefield, xD

[tame cobalt]

Based name

[earnest verge]

your asking a apex tester and game localizer from spain if battlefield from sweden gonna do X

[iron kraken]

if he knows nothing of battlefield why is he chatting in this channel lol

[unborn heart]

I don't know if I would or not, I would be a fool if I tried to guess, I have zero knowledge of macro scale business operations

[round crow]

Ya but he still probably follows what's going on

Just like any of us

[scenic igloo]

Thank you, sir. Same goes to you

[unborn heart]

When you work on something, you don't really know what's going on outside your project, so, overall, no

My sole point of interest is making sure that Polish localization for Apex is good, the rest is noise

[iron kraken]

youre noise

[unborn heart]

Me playing Battlefield in free time is completely separate from that

[tame cobalt]

Why thank you good sir

[unborn heart]

I heard that one from people back when we worked from office pre-COVID

[round crow]

I just want jet ramming to be penalized for the jet rammer like give him a death for it and we get a kill

[iron kraken]

lol

[scenic igloo]

I got you now. Thanks for the words nonetheless

[dense terrace]

aa polish loc huh? dobry wieczór

[hushed topaz]

@unborn hearttbh im interested in since you test Apex how much you do play Apex in your free time since your work is currently resolving around that im assuming?

[round crow]

Makes no sense how I get a death for clowns ramming the spawn the second the game starts getting like 3 kills

[unborn heart]

Funny thing, I actually don't play Apex in free time, as I'm not that into BR genre. Localization testing is nothing like playing normally, so one doesn't make the other impossible

[hushed topaz]

interesting

[scenic igloo]

Because I wanna thank you for the irony with more irony, sir

[unborn heart]

...although I follow any snippet of Apex lore very closely, both because it helps me with work and because I'm simply interested in it

[mental delta]

That transaction had a huge price lol, they have to make it rentable before they buy any other big studio (if they do)

[calm crow]

so we going f2p today or what

[earnest verge]

pondering is always free

[foggy maple]

Anyone else 2042 getting crashed

[hushed topaz]

i swear its just hazard zone going f2p im so confused now

[analog stirrup]

in time

[calm crow]

https://tenor.com/view/russian-military-slav-gif-22829267

[hushed topaz]

yeah i crashed earlier abt an hour ago or so and have been crashing since midgame

[scenic igloo]

It would be cool to see EA being bought and the studio completely restructured mind-wise though

[wide violet]

2042 going f2p is only a rumor atm

[unborn heart]

Thing is, in localization, you don't really play a whole lot. You spend A LOT of time reviewing text/audio and then checking it in game

[foggy maple]

Yeah it was not crashing before

[calm crow]

spitfire u do the audio brotha?

[unborn heart]

Basically, from localization standpoint, I couldn't care less if LSTAR is balanced, I care about whether it's spelled L-STAR in Polish version, because we're special and write half of weapon names differently for some odd language reason

[scenic igloo]

Interesting,

[unborn heart]

I review localized audio that comes in for Apex, I'm not involved in recording itself, these are audio folks, they know their stuff

[calm crow]

the audio guy that works on Squad is redic good, i wish u guys would hire him

props to coming in here and shooting the shit though bro, good stuff

[hushed topaz]

crazy how many people work on a single game

[unborn heart]

Essentially, I'll flag it if I notice that translation is wrong (which would be my fault in first place) or something is bad with recording of the line (misspelled word, post-prod issues, cutoffs etc.)

[unborn heart]

Yeah, that's an amazing part. Just for us localization folks, you look at credits and you often see 30-40 people (number depends on number of languages game is localized to). And we're just one small piece of a damn big puzzle

[hushed topaz]

ig its coz apex is so massive too id imagine less people working on a less popular game

Apex is the only BR that i can enjoy as well

[scenic igloo]

Especially if it's an Indie like Squad

[unborn heart]

It kinda depends. Apex actually is nowhere near top of list for localized languages. Sims 4 has, like, double our number

And I'm pretty sure FIFA is localized to way more languages too

[lost wyvern]

Can somebody share portal experience code for zombies?

[calm crow]

could i change my language to japanese if i wanted to? imo it owuld sound pretty bad ass

[hushed topaz]

I mean the Fifa and Sims franchises have been out for decades too

[tame cobalt]

[hushed topaz]

whereas Apex is still new, even with the lore it only goes back to Titanfall that released somwhere 2014 or something

[unborn heart]

Apex is pretty "standard", we have... English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Polish, Russian, Korean, Japanese, Traditional and Simplified Chinese, Brazilian

[tame cobalt]

[hushed topaz]

lol japanese text would look aesthetic even if i dont understand anything it just looks like that language thats made for games

[unborn heart]

And as I'm going off top of my head, I'm probably forgetting something, my brain is not working very well on Friday evening

[hushed topaz]

Brazilian as in Portuguese

[calm crow]

lol yeah bro thats what im sayin

[scenic igloo]

Sees Brazilian instead of Brazilian Portuguese

[hushed topaz]

i mean how many more languages does a game need anyways

[earnest verge]

i suggest you add the great kingdom of sweden, not that i would ever wanna listen to our language in a game, but it should def be the main language for everyone else

[scenic igloo]

Go back to Italy!

[spice heron]

You mean it’s not in Klingon?

[hushed topaz]

even if a game had my language i would keep it on english i would cringe a lot seeing my own language

[unborn heart]

My brain runs in language codes mode, sorry 😛

[earnest verge]

so its not just me, good my friends plays dota in swedish, its awefull when they read up something to me and i dont understand at all wtf they are talking about

[scenic igloo]

It's OK, LOL. I hear a bunch of people calling Brazilian Portuguese "Brazilian", even though it's still Portuguese

[tame cobalt]

roughly 6,500 languages are spoken in the world today

[placid pecan]

its different though

[unborn heart]

Spare a thought for languages that go right-to-left, these will always be fun for anyone designing the UI

[scenic igloo]

Is the Minecraft Enchantment Table language in there? That adds 3

[earnest verge]

i can imagine, i know some japanese (ofc) U w U

[scenic igloo]

Not different enough to be called another language. It's like saying American English is speaking "American" and British English is "English" (or British)

[hushed topaz]

yeah but thousands of those are spoken in 3rd world countries, doubt they would worryabt their game not being in a game

[earnest verge]

they do be different tho, its always funny to hear about "wata"

[hushed topaz]

the new lego star wars game will have a mumble option that should be the norm

[scenic igloo]

xD

[tame cobalt]

Third world countries such as brazil?

[buoyant robin]

Anyone on Xbox series s/x ??

[placid pecan]

My mates from florianopolis and he couldnt speak naturally in portugal, its more different dialect i think than just "its portuguese"

[unborn heart]

I worked desk-to-desk with Arabic testers for Need for Speed Heat, I know these folks had it tough, which makes sense in a game where some things just kind of have to be rooted to a spot (like speed values or distances)

[hushed topaz]

i was more thinking about countries in Africa and Asia, a lot of games have Portuguese as a language anyways so

[scenic igloo]

Third world countries such as my own, yes

[left furnace]

Lmao they removed zombies because people were leveling fast 😂

[earnest verge]

ah yeah that language in writing looks like a painting, looks really hard to learn

[worthy temple]

Thank God

[tame cobalt]

Won't have the same charm as the originals that are designed entirely for mumble dialogue though.

[hushed topaz]

dont think id ever be able to learn Kanji, Cyrillic or Arabic alphabet lol youd literally have to grow up w it or dedicate yourself to it

[daring pawn]

Th new lego star wars has been delayed forever now

[unborn heart]

I will shamefully admit that even a lot of Cyrillic looks like magic for me, and that's with Russian being in same language family as my Polish (although different branch). Still, different alphabets

[scenic igloo]

It's a little different, yeah. Depending on it you can still communicate. The Portuguese speak too fast

[earnest verge]

yeah i wanted to learn Arabic for no reason whatsoever, but that looks to much of a challenge for me atm

[tame cobalt]

It's coming in April bro

[unborn heart]

With Polish, the main thing is that Poles often think Czech sounds funny and vice versa

[arctic grove]

I like the new bv

[hushed topaz]

@daring pawnlooking at the trailer that just came out its justified ngl how much content thats in that game its insane

[daring pawn]

Oh shit a trailer came out, I gotta watch that

[tame cobalt]

Lego star wars hype

[hushed topaz]

imagine lego star wars flops as well like 2042 i will

[scenic igloo]

What game are you guys talking about?

[wind wraith]

fuck this game, that is all

[hushed topaz]

Lego Star Wars Skywalker Saga

[tame cobalt]

Who asked, that is all

[scenic igloo]

OK. Bye

[earnest verge]

in an alternate universe, game Fs u

[hushed topaz]

Gold Edition was Alpha Edition

[tame cobalt]

Gold edition is gigachad edition

[mental delta]

It can't

[scenic igloo]

As rude as it sounds, it was

[scenic igloo]

Also, think I heard about this game. LEGO games are generally pretty good

[hushed topaz]

yeah

[tiny imp]

Lego battlefield 2042

[hushed topaz]

but this one is completely different, it actually looks insane assuming from the trailer

[scenic igloo]

I'd actually like that

[hushed topaz]

more of a 3rd person view than of the zoomed out style

[mental delta]

I never heard about a lego game which totally flopped and the new one looks massive, just hope bugs are not a thing in it

[scenic igloo]

Imagine if those LEGO mockups of Orbital were made in LEGO or if we had a LEGO BF2042 game!

[tiny imp]

Try Battlebit. Is free

[scenic igloo]

Heard about it. Does it have good servers? If so, does it have SA servers?

[hushed topaz]

imagine the levolution in lego battlefield

[tiny imp]

amazing

[scenic igloo]

Imagine vehicles being destroyed. The amount of "debris"

[hushed topaz]

downloading rn better not disappoint, kinda looks like Polygon

[tiny imp]

I dont know but maybe

[karmic void]

What do you think… will the maps and the environment evolve over the seasons? Since right now its like the start of the war and everything is nice and clean

[hushed topaz]

i doubt it but it might

[hearty kiln]

Is loadout glitch fixed yet? Tired of resetting vehicles attachments

[hushed topaz]

if they implement Fortnite's idea

[scenic igloo]

Polygon was cool for about two days, then I uninstalled because it got stale because of how simple it was

[hushed topaz]

as the story goes on the maps change that would be really sick but imaigne the time and effort for every single map lol

[hushed topaz]

yeah and also felt like the game wasnt getting updated as fast as it shouldve

[mental delta]

For maps evolution I would say no but I guess the new maps they will add over the seasons will be more apocalyptic than the first ones

[karmic void]

Well… the amount of devs working on this… the money…

[karmic void]

Then the first maps would be just bland and boring

[lilac storm]

is this game alive

[hushed topaz]

they took 3 months to add a scoreboard dont get your hopes up!

[peak jasper]

so is zombies here or what?

[hushed topaz]

no its not zombies are in left 4 dead

[mental delta]

I know but sadly I think this is what will happen because devs doesn't seem they want to improve the already in-game content

[iron blade]

And its a really bad scoreboard at that

[hushed topaz]

its something, i really dont care abt a scoreboard honestly i was satisfied with the current tab

but it can be nice for some people to compete or trying to improve

[mental delta]

If it takes 3 months to make it I don't believe we are going to see new maps soon

[iron blade]

I dont think it even includes all the players, just like the first few and the last players, it jumbles all the teams into one, and it doesn’t even include deaths

[hushed topaz]

it only includes the top 20 and your squad iirc

[iron blade]

Like wtf is it with dice not wanting to show how many times u died? If a player is so offended by it, then dont even play fps games if u dont like to die

[scenic igloo]

I wish they just copied and pasted the old one tbh. Don't try to fix what's not broken

[hushed topaz]

Battlebit is actually amazing lol

[iron blade]

Because dice is wanting to be iNoVaTiVe!1!1!

[hushed topaz]

if you ever played phatom forces on roblox its like an upgraded version of that

[hushed topaz]

i think they did it that way so people would worry less about KDA and focus more on objectives, hence them bashing so hard on PTFO

[rapid moon]

The latency is killing me rn

[earnest verge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/s9bque/uiux/

[lean basin]

Hey

Any link for bf2042 stats?

[hushed topaz]

stats?

[dense terrace]

legacy feature

[tiny imp]

Your expectatons are to brutal

[arctic grove]

Hola

[lean basin]

I am talking about an alternate to battlefield tracker

[fleet aspen]

wtf all AI is there no one playing ?!! WHEN they are removing AI

[fossil schooner]

Lf NAE PS5 QONQUEST or the other one lol

No is playing ?

[lean basin]

Seriously AIs are the worst

[daring pawn]

They cant, to fill the lobbies they need AI

[obtuse jolt]

i don't understand how dice messed up vehicles so bad

driving a tank is just a miserable experience. increasing the dpi via my mouse does nothing

flying the hind is awful but manageable

[earnest verge]

well the tanks in battlefield have a fixed mas turn speed for turrets, that is a good thing, but they need to make the vehicle itself turn much much faster i think

[obtuse jolt]

jets are just unspeakably bad

[earnest flume]

Hello developers I hope you read my message, can you remove middle east servers its empty or you can do like warzone when you search to play the server start from the nearest like in saudi arabia sa-eu-us like this - it's unbelievable searching 45 min every day

[obtuse jolt]

bf4 doesn't use that and driving tanks is just so much better. turret is much more responsive

also they removed stuff from the ui so you can't tell where your gunner is aiming

[near phoenix]

lmao they removed the zombie mode

[unborn cave]

They always said ptfo cause the maps are too big to have conflict any where else

[arctic grove]

Man. My chance of getting T1 badges are gone. Feels bad.

[near phoenix]

kekw

[errant scarab]

bf2042 free to play??

[arctic grove]

The turret is so damn bad... When it shoots someone they have to be low health to actually get a kill

[sudden valve]

well yeah, if I was insta lasered by the boris-gun I would think that would be unbalanced

[arctic grove]

Tbh why can we put a medkit in the engineer class for example... What's the use of the classes then?

[sudden valve]

there are no classes

its just preset layout with a decieving name

[arctic grove]

Yeah exactly

That's what I meant haha

[floral aspen]

Tom Henderson said EA is considering it. If it goes free to play, I better get a refund for my preorder. Incredibly stupid

[earnest verge]

just know that there are people crying so much about turrets they actually nerfing them

[scarlet mason]

Is there no custom button mapping for consoles?

[arctic grove]

Bruh hahaha.

[daring pawn]

If it goes free to play, I want at least 20 dollars back

[arctic grove]

Free to play? I bought this damn game for a lot of money...

[floral aspen]

I preordered Gold. I would expect to get refunded at least the price of the game when it was brand new

[bright axle]

i think for most the biggest complaint about the turret isn't the damage but the spotting

[tiny imp]

Is just a rumor

[earnest verge]

nah bro people are in here crying every other day how they get owned by the turrets for all kinds of reasons

[tiny imp]

f2p is NOT confirmed

[floral aspen]

Henderson has had a pretty decent track record, one that warrants at least serious acknowledgment

[arctic grove]

If they make it free to play a lot of people will rage because they spend the money.

[tiny imp]

Yes, but is not confirmed by EA/DICE..(yet)

[hard plume]

Did tom ever tweet back with more info like he promised?

[floral aspen]

You are correct, and I acknowledge that. All I'm saying is if it does happen I'm gonna be pissed if they don't refund me the price of the game I paid

[tiny imp]

He only said that EA investigate if BF 2042 goes f2p. And OTHER options

[tiny imp]

Yeah, you are not alone. Me too

[sudden valve]

ea needs that sweet sweet fortnite skin dollar

[whole plume]

ea is fortnite

[sudden valve]

ea wishes they could be fortnite

[whole plume]

they are

[sudden valve]

theres a difference. fortnite is actually a fun well designed game, (or well it used to be)

but when fortnite was super popular, that shit was fun

[whole plume]

ea is fortnite

[floral aspen]

I just skimmed his Twitter and no new info yet

[wide violet]

he tweeted an hour ago that hes talking to analysts, lawyers, and devs and is taking time to put info together

[hard plume]

He’s probably full a crap and isn’t going to

[arctic grove]

I'm going back to bf4 and bfv. I'm so bored with this game

[naive quiver]

Please no stay here

[hard plume]

K bye

[lament fjord]

3 out of 3 times i launched 2042 it crashed someway in

[daring pawn]

Ngl I don’t blame you, it is really boring

[analog stirrup]

especially after rank 60

[tame cobalt]

3 out of 200 times I've launched 2042 it crashed someway in

[summer crescent]

I had really bad lag on a round of Manifest

[tame cobalt]

I'm gonna take a break from 2042 till season 1

Will probs still do the weeklies tho, shrug

Well depends if the cosmetic for the week is any good

[grave prism]

why they give such a shit about xp farms 💀

[glad portal]

That's literally all I do, hop on, do the weekly, hop off

[summer crescent]

The recoil on the NTW-50 is nasty

[tame cobalt]

Because it breaks their game's progression system?

[analog stirrup]

lmao what progression system

[grave prism]

the progression sucks balls anyway, shoot 300 enemies for a slightly different red dot sight

[tame cobalt]

Mald

[analog stirrup]

You can literally shoot the A.I soldiers in solo mode and "progress"

[grave prism]

bf5 was so much better to progression, none of this shoot 300 enemies to unlock a sight

[glad portal]

Is anyone actually able to get into a game tonight? I'm on Series X, cant join any games

[craggy forum]

Wasn’t battlefield v unlockables for weapons were cosmetic only?

Or maybes I didn’t notice any difference with the attachments lol

[grave prism]

they had the skill tree, attachments didnt change a thing

AND all the sights were unlocked from the start it was great

[naive quiver]

This is painful 🤣🤣

[summer crescent]

Imagine having absolutely nothing important in your life for you to purchase that

[analog stirrup]

i got a 3080ti and it's overkill for everything at 1440p

[summer crescent]

I have a 3060

[dense terrace]

i will oc my 6900 xt even more to not feel bad about that thiccboi :V its on liquid i just never have time to see what's its breaking point

[naive quiver]

Not really you can’t overkill for battlefield 2042

[errant scarab]

price 9,000

[analog stirrup]

that's true

[craggy forum]

Lol

[naive quiver]

My pre-build has already 3.6k for 12900k +3090

[summer crescent]

It’s for when you need something for your 15 16k 1000hz monitors

[errant scarab]

i5 12600k best

[opaque barn]

Jeez. Battlefront devs really killed my battlefield

[craggy forum]

Battlefront was lit by the way

[opaque barn]

It was not lit. Had no destruction. Just like this

[tiny imp]

No wonder there is no behind scene movie about BF 2042.

[craggy forum]

Tough launch but it turned out to be a good starwars game

[analog stirrup]

i looked nice though, really fucking nice

[opaque barn]

Behind the scenes was someone's grand.other trying to use frostbite 2

[naive quiver]

5900x and 12900k only two options

[opaque barn]

Should have been releasing new guns every month at least

[craggy forum]

Tbh I respect that the game was developing from a work from home situation

[naive quiver]

That’s impossible,

[opaque barn]

@naive quiver dice is that you

[grave prism]

https://tenor.com/view/bf4-caption-nikocado-avocado-recon-fan-gif-23935285

[craggy forum]

Although it should have been delayed by a year or so but
A work from home situation is tough

[summer crescent]

They nerfed the PP-29 too much

[naive quiver]

Yes I’m your DICE , show me your wallet

[opaque barn]

@craggy forum I don't respect it. Need a whole year more of development

[grave prism]

no they didnt its fine now

[opaque barn]

@naive quiver I'm sorry. I supported you through hardline, battlefront and non modern battlefield games. I come home and the house is trash and my kids don't know me. It's over

[summer crescent]

It surprises me how the smgs have much more control than the Auto rifles

[opaque barn]

It surprised me how buckshot spread is completely broke

[naive quiver]

I’m looking forward to world war 3 release in March it’s free to play

[craggy forum]

Makes sense I think because of the lower caliber

[naive quiver]

So I’m gonna try 😁😁😁

[opaque barn]

Try to shoot a sensor on the ground by putting the sensor Inside the circle

Doesn't work unless the tiny dot is right on the sensor. Worst hit detection ever

[young shuttle]

seems like things are getting better and better .

[opaque barn]

Yea? Where's tdm

[craggy forum]

I haven’t played the new update yet did anything change at all?

[opaque barn]

This game is about to be free to play

[naive quiver]

No need tdm , we need zombie mode

[opaque barn]

Why so you can farm medals. Pitiful

Need that dozer achievement

[craggy forum]

I’ve read about that and it’s so sad i hope that they just don’t shift focus as they did with need for speed heat

[naive quiver]

Zombie mode is gonna free to play aren’t we ?

[opaque barn]

[simple mango]

i love BF2042 😂

[young shuttle]

Just put BF4 on portal make it free to play and charge for season passes . Boom

[edgy oriole]

Im at the point of my 2042 career where i just get on for they poopy weekly skins.

[opaque barn]

Remaster battlefield 4. It's over.

[naive quiver]

This is hacker

[grave prism]

the no loadout bug is back, had it happen like 5 times in past day 💀

[ebon tulip]

Which Mexican doesn’t like to ride automatic cars?

[opaque barn]

Or advance the story arc, add elements to the stages and rerelease

[ebon tulip]

Emanuelle

[simple mango]

noo

[grave prism]

christ its a game not a career grow up

[opaque barn]

@ebon tulip that's racist

[ebon tulip]

I’m mexican😂😂😂

[opaque barn]

You no longer are allowed to have a livelihood

[edgy oriole]

haha. grow up. haha not a career. hahah. got me. haha. 🙂

[opaque barn]

@ebon tulip yea? Hook me up with some senoritas

[naive quiver]

How’s Mexico

[ebon tulip]

Alot of cholo’s around my hood

[grave prism]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-boomer-ok-boomer-bernie-bernie-sanders-gif-16819013

[analog stirrup]

he's in the states obv

[rancid wyvern]

Why is dice/ea so soft? Show the deaths on the leaderboards frfr

[naive quiver]

Call the police

[ebon tulip]

Bald head😂

[opaque barn]

Mi Espanol necessito trabajo pero es suficiente Bien

[ebon tulip]

big white tshirt 🤣🤣🤣

[edgy oriole]

hahah. failed gif hahaha. boomer witty bernie gif. haha. boy im getting toasted here. haha. 🙂

[analog stirrup]

no, no and NO. This upsets the shitters

[opaque barn]

Still in tears over 2042 Dam. They just f'd us

[halcyon hatch]

Why did they remove the zombie mode 💀

[opaque barn]

@halcyon hatch they don't like people farming

[edgy oriole]

real quick lmao

[naive quiver]

Because it’s gonna be free to play

[halcyon hatch]

Hm ok

[opaque barn]

People farming xp and achievements