battlefield-2042

[clear ravine]

its too wacky

[violet sluice]

2042 in gif format.

[foggy tundra]

if they really wanted to do specs, they shouldve went faction specific

[haughty dagger]

How is a specialist system wacky?

[storm jolt]

it's separate teams working on that kinda stuff

[bleak quest]

We get it

[haughty dagger]

I really wish they went this route for portal instead of the hosted shit they’re currently doing.

[arctic grove]

heheh, no worries XD

[bleak quest]

K

[still vault]

We have heard you. You think you can add all the things yourself and buy all the things. Now move on.

[radiant echo]

https://twitter.com/PartWelsh/status/1481626476827275267 👈

Freeman (@PartWelsh)

Back at it this week and wanted to thank folks who reached out asking to see Rush restored #Battlefield

We'll have news on our next updates in due course and will keep you updated over on @BattlefieldComm https://t.co/Q3uEBYMM9M

Twitter · Jan 13, 2022, 1:57 PM

🙌

[violet sluice]

You & I went over this a few days ago. It's turned the game into a hero shooter. The specialists and their cringe end-of-round quips. How the way they function in-game has turned them into jacks-of-all-trades, reducing teamwork, etc..

There are more cons than pro's currently regarding the specialists.

[arctic grove]

Specialist don't make sense imo

[haughty dagger]

I just shoot whoever doesn’t have a blue dot above their head. I’m sure it would be better with faction specialists for some people though.

[bleak quest]

What happened to 2 days? 😂

[arctic grove]

Defuse will return

[foggy tundra]

it would be more immersive, and they also shouldve made them use class specific gear only at the very least

[haughty dagger]

End of round quips are not a system though. I don’t Like them either but thats not what makes a system.

[still vault]

@arctic grove last chance

[violet sluice]

It is a system. They built an entire system around those end-of-round quips.

[radiant echo]

Idk for sure it wasn't that popular in BF4

[still vault]

I told you to stop and move on.

[violet sluice]

@arctic grove Yeah don't fuck around or Carbonic will call your ISP.

[arctic grove]

Lol It was a blast

[bleak quest]

Ngl, I think the biggest issue with 2042, was just that they tried something that would've been better off under a completely different IP name, many people have grown accustomed to a certain level of game design and function, that 2042 just changed the formula too much for them

[arctic grove]

Idc

[haughty dagger]

End of round thing imo is a separate system and not based on the specialists. That doesn’t define how a specialist plays in the game.

[arctic grove]

ok.

[drowsy sapphire]

This new Mackay skin looks nice

[arctic grove]

nope its cringe

[violet sluice]

It is based on specialists though. Each specialist has their own quip and you can bet your ass EA would have wanted to sell individual specialists, or end-of-round quips as well. Just because it's not directly while in the game doesn't make it it's own system. Everything is a system.

[drowsy sapphire]

Seems different and out of show but it seems nice

[drowsy sapphire]

Ok?

Thanks.. for your opinion?

[haughty dagger]

This I’m 50/50 on. I would prefer recon specialist were the only ones that could spot in the game because it’s insane how you’re basically on the mini map 24/7. I do think assault should get spawn beacon and not recon though.

[still vault]

They said you would be able to unlock all specialists just by playing. But guess shortcut bundles etc. might have been an option besides the Battlepasses.

[lost wind]

It’s kinda funny because people were comparing McKay to Woody from toy story, & here we are! XD

[clear ravine]

like why are there even characters to begin with, its usa vs russia

[drowsy sapphire]

🤣 BRUH

[lost wind]

Both sides are fielding task forces of No-Pats. Like mercenaries basically

[violet sluice]

Yeah this is the route I think they wanted to go in.

[drowsy sapphire]

It does look like him a bit 😅

[still vault]

Plenty of previous Battlefield games have shortcut bundles, so nothing new in that

[foggy tundra]

shouldve just remade 2142

[clear ravine]

then it shouldn't have teams named usa and rus

[foggy tundra]

[violet sluice]

But the game being a monumental failure to the public has stopped any form of monetization until they bring it up to an acceptable level.

[haughty dagger]

Because a specialist has their own quip doesn’t mean it was based on them. It was likely made “hey let’s make them say something when they’re highlighted” “ok like what? Let’s get some ideas going” it wasn’t like “hey instead of classes let’s make specialist and then have end of round quips!”

[radiant echo]

Maybe next might be 2143 👀

[arctic grove]

Nobody knows that's why I said specialist makes no sense the only thing that makes sense is Ai's

[sweet mortar]

Bonjour existe t'il des joueurs moyen comme moi qui ont besoin d'un partenaire,je b'ai pas un bon skill mais je peux aider.

[foggy tundra]

its too early in the morn for this

[haughty dagger]

It’s a proxy war. The AOW isn’t the story though it’s Hazard Zone.

[lost wind]

It’s still US VS RU. But both sides use mercs. But those mercs are still fighting for their respective nations that hired them

[arctic grove]

2142 was least sold 😛

[drowsy sapphire]

Lol

[violet sluice]

Nobody knows their thinking while developing the game. But they are there and that is how it is currently.

[foggy tundra]

miles better received than 2042, hardlin3, bfv

[wise zodiac]

They should've remade Vietnam.

[foggy tundra]

[wise zodiac]

[foggy tundra]

never played vietnam i think

[arctic grove]

I wanna build my traps etc in Vietnam

[wise zodiac]

Vietnam was awesome.

[clear ravine]

i mean wouldn't it be better if they wear differently like us uniforms and rus uniforms + more like military outfits

[radiant echo]

Hear me out

Battlefield 6

= Battlefield VI

[foggy tundra]

denied

[violet sluice]

Vietnam was so fun! Nothing like driving a jeep full of explosives while blasting charlie don't surf.

[arctic grove]

[haughty dagger]

Trust me I don’t like them either and the example someone posted the other day of having them sit still in a pose while aiming is what I would prefer over the giggling and funny lines.

[wise zodiac]

Chopper gunning with the pilot playing Fortunate Son.

[radiant echo]

=Battlefield Vietnam

[empty bloom]

Battlefield but an anti american superhero

[radiant echo]

It ain't meeea

[foggy tundra]

watch rocky balboa then

[empty bloom]

L

[arctic grove]

Battlefield Vietnam will be fun 😊 imagine a tank fall in a ditch and imagine players get caught in traps

[arctic grove]

ok.

[violet sluice]

I honestly wish they got rid of that whole thing all together. I see those specialists in the game, i'd rather see numbers and ribbons at the end than those stupid specialists that all have punchable faces.

[arctic grove]

that's like 2042 except these are bugs not features

[haughty dagger]

I don’t mind the end of round stuff but I would like to see the scoreboard or at least be able to skip it.

[violet sluice]

Those specialists end-of-round quips are as annoying as Panam.

[arctic grove]

Battlefield Vietnam Saigon conquest be lit

[drowsy sapphire]

YESSSIRRRR

[lost wind]

I wouldn’t mind another Vietnam era battlefield

[drowsy sapphire]

Thanks for your opinion that was needed..

[arctic grove]

Panam and those specialist quips are annyoing af

[lost wind]

Though you know what would be cool?

Battlefield: Korea

[drowsy sapphire]

😀😶🙃

[violet sluice]

There really would be no difference from WW2 though.

[arctic grove]

Facts I never seen Korean war game for battlefield

yo

i have some really good news and bad news

[violet sluice]

Also can't be killing chinese soldiers in video games so that's also why you will never see a Korea BF game.

[wise zodiac]

Hear me out

Hear me out

[frosty mural]

Homefront?

[arctic grove]

yes am Hearing u out

[lost wind]

Battlefield 4 would like a word

[drowsy sapphire]

Honestly a Vietnam game for battlefield or Call of Duty would be awesome, but if it was Battlefield I know it would be better and not have crazy weird stupid sh*t unlike Call of Duty

[foggy tundra]

korea bf would be nice, the korean war had a bunch of interesting fights

[wise zodiac]

Korean War going into the French Indonesia War (right before Vietnam) going into Vietnam.

[arctic grove]

how does one become a mod on this sever?

[violet sluice]

BF4 came out before Xi went crazy.

[glacial nimbus]

what's conquest of agrs

[foggy tundra]

YES

[knotty iron]

whats the best game in the world?

[wise zodiac]

Uh, Halo, imo.

[arctic grove]

ride to hell retribution

[drowsy sapphire]

That… would be such a large scaled campaign and have a if story… AND WOULD BE GREAT

[merry forge]

generic operators where you can choose the clothing is much more wanted then this crap

[glacial nimbus]

killer bean mobile

[arctic grove]

hal0 b0rink af

[arctic grove]

Lol BF4 did that but yeah you right CCP will sue EA like before

[wise zodiac]

lulwut

[lost wind]

Anyway, a Korean War era battlefield game would be awesome

[violet sluice]

BF4 came out the same year Xi attained power.

So it's much before he went crazy.

[arctic grove]

That be a nice campaign story

[foggy tundra]

it would be

[wise zodiac]

I dunno about a campaign, because it takes place over the span of a decade.

[drowsy sapphire]

No problem with that

[foggy tundra]

could do something like bf 1/bfv, have campaign between different protags at differemt stages of the wars

[drowsy sapphire]

Wait… the Koreans and Vietnam were over a decade?

[foggy tundra]

1950 was korea

1970 was vietnam

[drowsy sapphire]

Oooooo… well if Korea doesn’t have much to do with Vietnam then what’s the point of even having Korea

[knotty iron]

this morning i was dreaming that i had a threesome with joe biden

[radiant echo]

https://tenor.com/view/the-witcher-geralt-of-rivia-geralt-white-wolf-gif-18933836

[arctic grove]

True bf1 and bf5 does each year during war

[lost wind]

Far Cry 4

[violet sluice]

The Korean war was insanely brutal

And technically the war is still going.

[drowsy sapphire]

Cause even if Koreans were in Vietnam they wouldn’t share an earlier war/battle they add and do all that work then introduce what the main game is showing, Hey! We only showed Koreans 20 years later cause they were in a war earlier

[foggy tundra]

yea the korean war is still ongoing

[arctic grove]

O yeah and it has alot of phases but it be a good battlefield game

[foggy tundra]

south korea is technically a warzone

[wise zodiac]

Indochina War was 46-54, Korea was early 50's, and while the Vietnam War started in 55, US involvement didn't happen until the 60s.

[violet sluice]

There are 14,000 (known) artillery cannons pointed at Seoul.

[drowsy sapphire]

Mmmmmm… well they should add a mission or story about something like that… but it’s not like Korea and US is fine right now lol

[arctic grove]

In battlefield 2042 look like a utopia

[foggy tundra]

i mean sk does actually look like that near seoul

[lost wind]

Now if I’m honest, I wouldn’t mind a sci fi style battlefield game. More so than 2142. Like COD infinite warfare where you actually go beyond the planet and fight in space or on other worlds

[foggy tundra]

just not the DMZ

[drowsy sapphire]

Ahhhh…. Could be interesting, and would definitely work, it would just have to be a long campaign so it doesn’t feel short with everything they would have to put

[arctic grove]

Yep huge gaps in between I'd say Korean war needs more recognition

[tame cobalt]

Yes

Battlefield 2942

[warped pulsar]

Could they remake Propaganda for portal?

[tame cobalt]

Yes

[drowsy sapphire]

That would be pretty nice for battlefield, but I’m not sure if people wanna go from Modern All out Warfare to Mechwarrior

[foggy tundra]

i mean walker only 2142 sounds like a blast

[arctic grove]

I wonder how they made a utopia 😂😂

[foggy tundra]

[violet sluice]

The community has been asking for a 2142 remaster or direct sequel for a long time so yes they do.

[foggy tundra]

similar to how japan does it

[arctic grove]

Right 😂

[foggy tundra]

sometimee i wish i was a bit ignorant, but college had other plans

[drowsy sapphire]

Wow… well that’s new cause from last time I heard that game is looonggggg goooonneeeee… and ded-forgotten which kinda sucks knowing that game actually had some cool stuff

[foggy tundra]

theres a small fanmade server.for it

but its like sub 2k players

[storm jolt]

nows the time for titanfall 3

[violet sluice]

It still has a community playing it. Same with Desert Combat.

[drowsy sapphire]

Well of course there will be groups for every game because everybody liked certain things, but I’m guessing that group is small

[foggy tundra]

confirmed to be on backburner, it could be a decade before we see tf3

[foggy tundra]

ye under 2k i think

[drowsy sapphire]

Dang

[storm jolt]

its waiting until we get neural links

[violet sluice]

There is for every game ever. People still play Starsiege Tribes, and Tribes 2.

[left kraken]

when dice remove cq 64 an bt or is permanent now?

[storm jolt]

people still play hawken on private server too

[foggy tundra]

2142 is what people nowadays consider a cult classic

[arctic grove]

If Battlefield 2142 return it be like Titan fall I think respawn entertainment developer should do 60% of the work and DICE 40% 🤔😊

[foggy tundra]

i mean

2142 and tf have some similarities

[rough meteor]

[subtle iron]

the titan fall team is really small

[foggy tundra]

so it COULD work

[storm jolt]

add mechs to battlefront 2 supremacy and u have 2142

[arctic grove]

There experts at it they got the blueprint

[obsidian zinc]

2142 for Portal - NOW!

[rough meteor]

[violet sluice]

They refuse to fix the HP bug that is currently crippling Battlefront 2.

[drowsy sapphire]

Yea, as I said there’s a group for EVERY GAME no matter what it would be, so it’s always a chance that server could go from -2K to 50,000+… but of course that’s a whole new route from Modern All out Warfare to Mechwarrior, so that’s something the people would really have to think about and dice would have to think about doing a big change like that

[arctic grove]

I don't think TF3 will exists since apex legends is leading

[eager beacon]

it takes ages for me to find a server...

[foggy tundra]

like despite how poorly 2142 sold, it was still received well, the issue it had was is it wasnt what most bf players wanted and launched a year after bf2

[violet sluice]

Also crippled with the old engine.

[lost wind]

Ok I have a real stupid question, but I just want to make sure I’m correct. The objectives in conquest are called control points, right? Or is it flags? Or just objectives?

[foggy tundra]

either 3 works

[arctic grove]

Yeah but I think EA still has codes and IP for it you will see it again

[foggy tundra]

or points

[foggy tundra]

i hope so

[lost wind]

Ok, I’m writing out something battlefield related & wanted to make sure I was using proper terminology

[foggy tundra]

its my childhood

[hardy leaf]

2142? what did i miss

[foggy tundra]

lmao

we were discussing bf game theme ideas

[lost wind]

Korean War setting looked promising

[wise zodiac]

Roman War.

[violet sluice]

Just play Chivalry 2 & Mordhau.

[wise zodiac]

Go back to 300AD, lol

[foggy tundra]

lmao

fight for julius

[lost wind]

No we got battlefield 42

[wise zodiac]

Literally, Battlefield 42

[arctic grove]

That be epic

[radiant echo]

BF4 2

[foggy tundra]

rejected

[wise zodiac]

No, see, people wouldn't play their classes!

[hardy leaf]

bf 1918 will be next battlefield with a grappling hook specialist

[wide violet]

Are we screaming bring back 2142 from the roof tops again?

[radiant echo]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-不造-i-dont-know-gif-5094560

[violet sluice]

We never stopped.

[arctic grove]

THIS IS SPARTA !!!!!!!!!!!

[foggy tundra]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-wahh-wild-go-gif-13490041

[wise zodiac]

If you were playing Battlefield 0042, there would be no team play.

Whos running the siege towers?

The catapults?

[radiant echo]

[wise zodiac]

The ballistae?

[foggy tundra]

2142 had the best commander mechanic

[wide violet]

straight car fax

[foggy tundra]

[arctic grove]

Summon Hades 😂 that be levelution

[violet sluice]

Again play Chivalry 2, or Mordhau. Both games feature great teamplay.

[wise zodiac]

That's Greek. Lol

[pale viper]

The walls have eyes

[eager beacon]

i heard the titan mode was a lot of fun

[foggy tundra]

bruh let me sing you the song of the orbital strike

[wide violet]

the feeling of running off a titan after you destroyed the core was 10/10

[foggy tundra]

that pin tho

[arctic grove]

Oh right 😂

[hardy leaf]

i think DICE have realised that taking away classes was a bad idea but at this point of development they cant just take it away, so now they are thinking what to do next, and are directionless

[wide violet]

especially if you landed the final shot

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-5346522

[wise zodiac]

I'm just saying, with how we have no medics in Battlefield, you couldn't rely on people to run battering rams, siege towers, catapults, trebuchets...

[violet sluice]

It works in Chivalry 2, and Mordhau though.

[foggy tundra]

[arctic grove]

I'd say never doubt power of a Xbow 😂😂

[foggy tundra]

it really do tho

[hardy leaf]

is there a medic in bf2042?

[foggy tundra]

yes but also no

maria falck and shitangel are

[violet sluice]

Everyone is a medic, and nobody is a medic at the same time.

[arctic grove]

If it was a historical Battlefield game
Battlefield Vietnam
Battlefield Korean war
Battlefield 42 BCE
Battlefield civil war

[foggy tundra]

maria is best medic tho

[hardy leaf]

F

[radiant echo]

Yeah Maria Falck and Angel

oh

Twiggs

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[obsidian zinc]

Falck and Angel, yep.

[foggy tundra]

[radiant echo]

[foggy tundra]

angels mouth should be closed

[obsidian zinc]

no.

[foggy tundra]

yes

[obsidian zinc]

don't be sad...

...this is just how it works out sometimes.

[arctic grove]

It’s just how it works sometime

[foggy tundra]

im not sad, im salty at how annoying his lines are

[drowsy sapphire]

JUST HOW IT IS SOMETIMES

[arctic grove]

Hah! Angel does it again

[arctic grove]

Unfortunately when you sleep and dream angel saying that in a loop

[obsidian zinc]

AND AGAIN!

[glossy storm]

Every specialist's face should be hidden by a helmet or mask.

[foggy tundra]

lmal

[arctic grove]

Coolest looking specialist is Espinoza

[foggy tundra]

lmao*

[violet sluice]

Boris is best specialist.

[obsidian zinc]

BF4 classes also had faces.

[foggy tundra]

i like how normal maria os, she totally fits in

[gleaming oracle]

Looks good in tier 1 skin

[arctic grove]

I thought he was Russian from the debut

[arctic grove]

Hahahahah

[drowsy sapphire]

With masks on or a helmet on

[obsidian zinc]

or BF3.

[gleaming oracle]

The best BF game

[obsidian zinc]

BF3 US engineer has no helmet.

[violet sluice]

I disagree. BF2 at least had modding capability and custom maps.

[obsidian zinc]

he has a cap.

[manic anvil]

Bf needs to act serious and get rid of the fucking characters change there ass to be battlefield marines not fucking costumes and old grandmas

[arctic grove]

Kevlar hat 🤔

[gusty jasper]

A cap is fine imo because it's easily identifiable as the engineer

[gleaming oracle]

I started with Bad Company, never played BF2, BF3 was the pinnacle for me had thousands of hours on that game and loved every min

[manic anvil]

Cap is shit

[gusty jasper]

Same how the Russian engie wore a gas mask

[obsidian zinc]

xD

[manic anvil]

My guy doesn’t fit the vibe with the cap

[arctic grove]

True I play with 0 HUD I know who I'm shooting

[violet sluice]

Yeah you missed the golden age of BF for sure. Especially Desert Combat for 1942.

[obsidian zinc]

what about you not taking video games so serious?

[gusty jasper]

I don't think it's too much to ask for a serious themed game to have serious characters

[gleaming oracle]

I'm on console, I don't believe BF2 came out on PS

[arctic grove]

I like Irish’s look

[foggy tundra]

bf is an arcade shooter, it isnt a milsim

[arctic grove]

It's immersive with playing no HUD. On Battlefield it feels like I'm watching a movie

[foggy tundra]

[glossy storm]

And? I'm not saying 'specialists bad, classes good'. It's just annoying to see them, 'cause all it reminds me of is their cringey one-liners.

[manic anvil]

I would imagine 2 old laddies getting gun down hiding behind a tank. Like that is not fucking happening

[arctic grove]

Does look cool I won’t lie

[gusty jasper]

Yeah BF is not a milsim but I'd prefer more realistic looking soldiers

Irish, Casper, Dozer look the part

[foggy tundra]

id say maria does too but the rest are....

no

[gusty jasper]

On the brim... Sort of

[obsidian zinc]

Rao is also okay.

[slim quiver]

I mean these aren’t conventional soldiers

[foggy tundra]

the offizier skin she has is lit

[obsidian zinc]

exactly.

[arctic grove]

Well might have to brace cause we in hero shooter type

[slim quiver]

Have you ever seen what mercenaries look like IRL

[arctic grove]

Don't be sad, that's just how it works out sometimes

[arctic grove]

Yeah

[violet sluice]

Yeah they're no-pats that are fighting each other for some reason.

[slim quiver]

They bring their own shit

[foggy tundra]

you mean PMCs that are illegal everywhere but the US?

[manic anvil]

They better put down all the fucking soldier skins but and I say revamp them make them better

[slim quiver]

And yet they still exist everywhere including the US

[arctic grove]

I'm sorry, I can't seriously believe that Angel or Mckay would survive 5 minutes on a battlefield, let alone being happy enough to say quips at the end

[gusty jasper]

They're still soldiers just non patriot

[arctic grove]

Well except for black water if you know them

[slim quiver]

And they exist especially in Africa

[obsidian zinc]

you can argue about the decision to have the same models on both sides, that's true. but...

[foggy tundra]

they dont look anything like regular military,

[slim quiver]

Yeah because that’s an organization

[manic anvil]

Have you seen the skin it’s so wrong

[gusty jasper]

Angel looks dumb as hell, no doubt about it

[manic anvil]

They look like pin kids in fucking costumes

[arctic grove]

The concept art of the game looks 100x better

[arctic grove]

PMC in battlefield 2042 should be like that if they got a destroyer 🤔

[knotty iron]

game is deleted?

[lilac plinth]

Goty

[arctic grove]

Thing is they aren’t regular military

[lilac plinth]

[arctic grove]

so update today?

They’re just Mercenaries

[foggy tundra]

thats what im agreeing with

[lilac plinth]

Big update???

[arctic grove]

Battlefield 2042 would make sense for no pats vs Russia PMC

But they are mercenaries that are working for an organization.

[foggy tundra]

theyre nopats, it literally screams merc

[manic anvil]

They look like pin kids in dress up costumes

[obsidian zinc]

the ideal specialists implementation would be with different models for each faction and more serious VO.

[slim quiver]

Not really it’s a given away British ship

[foggy tundra]

YES

[gusty jasper]

Just because they're mercenaries doesn't mean they should look dumb

[slim quiver]

and they have one of them not a fleet

[gusty jasper]

Like look at the bot models compared to the specialists

[arctic grove]

Yeah they should have done 5 specialists for one side and 5 for the other. Or 10 the same but they look vastly different

[slim quiver]

There’s no expectation for these soldiers to have standard issued equipment from either side

[arctic grove]

Also just because they're mercenaries doesn't mean they can come into battlefield with a cowboy hat and leave saying "I'm not overconfident, I'm just better than everyone else" when they just fought for the world's survival

[obsidian zinc]

you don't even need to change the specialty gadgets and traits, just the character models and voices.

[arctic grove]

the ideal specialists implementation would be no specialists at all.

[gusty jasper]

Or having literally no helmets

[arctic grove]

^

[slim quiver]

I mean they can, it’s a video game

[arctic grove]

About a war torn Earth, sure

[manic anvil]

I say they shut down the entire game work another 5 years on it

[foggy tundra]

id prefer them change it to class specific gadgets tho

[obsidian zinc]

I'm too open minded for that. c:

[gusty jasper]

Funny how they're called specialists but don't actually specialize in anything

[obsidian zinc]

specialty gadgets and traits are already class-specific.

[slim quiver]

Yes and many have made games based on serious concept and did something more on the creativity side. We have no campaign here

[arctic grove]

a video game that's a simulation of war; things like this dont happen in real war idk lmfao....maybe i just like things bit more realistic

[slim quiver]

Look at the maps, do they look war torn to you?

[lilac plinth]

when next update?

[arctic grove]

Exactly, that's my point lol
The game doesn't match with the lore

[foggy tundra]

i mean like the med kits, ammk crates, repair tool etc

[slim quiver]

It’s not a simulation of war. Once again BF is an arcade shooter

[arctic grove]

Billion dollar ship I mean if no pats are filthy rich PMC......they need matching uniforms and big arsenal of weapons even a cruise missile 🤔

It’s kind of inevitable that wacky skins and stuff would creep in over the games lifecycle but yeah, thematically they had this neat idea of a climate apocalypse and it would’ve been far better had they followed through on that instead of what we got

Arcade =/= Can't be serious

[gusty jasper]

Because 128 players on fully detailed maps would run like shit

[obsidian zinc]

you can lockdown secondary gadgets, sure.

[gusty jasper]

The maps are detail-less with the most flat textures I've ever seen in a battlefield title

[slim quiver]

Let’s be honest they just needed it for a trailer and for the hazard zone thing

[lilac plinth]

Big Update

[obsidian zinc]

at this point I don't believe it's the player count.

[arctic grove]

Arcady simulation of war; still simulation nonetheless I want the immersive dark atmosphere of bf3/bf1

[violet sluice]

You mean lack of right?

[obsidian zinc]

it's just rushed maps.

[slim quiver]

When has battlefield never allowed you to do stupid stuff in a setting that’s serious

[obsidian zinc]

rushed map design.

[slim quiver]

The difference is the less serious stuff isn’t a physics game anymore

[radiant echo]

We still talking about history here lol

It's just a game

[gusty jasper]

That too, the design/flow (or lack thereof) speaks for itself

[violet sluice]

The entire game was rushed my guy.

[radiant echo]

It's meant to be fun

[arctic grove]

Again, every battlefield allowed you to have fun, however the character design was

1. realistic
2. serious

[arctic grove]

Idk the lore of battlefield 2042 I'm lost on it makes no sense I mean if it's PMC why no fight other PMC

[obsidian zinc]

I'm aware of that.

[fast rampart]

hollow maps desgin, never feels intimate

[radiant echo]

[gusty jasper]

Zzzy, please understand the difference between gameplay and art direction

[slim quiver]

Then play BF1 and 3 lol. It’s not a simulation, we have milsim genre for that reason

[obsidian zinc]

I'm just saying you can't blame 128P for that.

[arctic grove]

I doubt your doubt

[gusty jasper]

It's not that hard man

[slim quiver]

I’m aware of the difference

[gusty jasper]

Okay, no one is asking for a milsim battlefield, just a believable setting

That's literally his point

[arctic grove]

2042 is a believable setting

[slim quiver]

This entire setting is not believable down to how it even started

[arctic grove]

BfV has plenty of normal looking skins

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[gusty jasper]

The setting of the lore is believable in contrast to the actual game

[obsidian zinc]

rushed map design
rushed map features
rushed game engine
rushed game

[radiant echo]

Yeah and people didn't like it cuz it wasn't historical accurate, But now 2042 is just fiction (I mean the not so much normal skins)

[gusty jasper]

Like you literally have a guy laughing his ass off after fighting in a war

[arctic grove]

And the fiction doesn't connect with the actual gameplay

[slim quiver]

Let’s look at how geologically impossible it is for this flooding to advance this much in a 20 year period and how the world is resource scarce beyond belief and we are still mad producing tanks and high grade technology without running thin

[radiant echo]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-不造-i-dont-know-gif-5094560

[arctic grove]

I mean its true

[obsidian zinc]

but it is not unfixable IMO.

[arctic grove]

Inflation to

[radiant echo]

maybe

[slim quiver]

There’s so many things in the games setting that simply are impossible because it’s a video game

[gusty jasper]

Zzzy we're TALKING about the product DELIVERED. Not the writing. The actual marketed lore is amazing

[arctic grove]

Realistic clothing shouldn't be one

[slim quiver]

Lore is setting is it not? The theme of the game the back story in all

[gusty jasper]

The in game tone does not match at all with what was described in the lore

[arctic grove]

^

[slim quiver]

You said you wanted a semblance of realism

[slim quiver]

Oh sure this is true

[arctic grove]

True

[slim quiver]

There’s no doubt about that

[gusty jasper]

Yeah and so I expected maps/tone shown in the exodus trailer

[arctic grove]

TL;DR marketing was cool, game was the polar opposite which made it suck even more

Can we just have a game based on the short film, thanks
That would be a cool story

[gusty jasper]

Run down areas and clutter etc, more serious vibe

You can still have arcadey elements of gameplay

[slim quiver]

I was under the expectation it would be war torn. But meh it’s no big to me anymore tbh

[arctic grove]

Korea looks like utopia

Doha don't get me started there

[slim quiver]

I haven’t played the game since Nov 20th or something so I pretty much moved on by now. I can’t say I have any fucks to give

[arctic grove]

Artic well it's covered with ice still I'd thought it melted

[slim quiver]

Yes that would be impossible

And arctic ice would not regress that fast in 20 years

[arctic grove]

It's coming lol maybe 2082

New continent

[prisma ibex]

Worst game to be ever released

[slim quiver]

If you want a near post apocalyptic scenario BF to be realistic, be prepared for vehicle mains to weep because there’s no mass production of any assault vehicle in an apocalypse scenario where shit is running thin

[arctic grove]

The scale of the maps had me picturing a rundown metropolitan area, dark corners mixed with a district bathed in sharp neon light and long shadows. Instead you get some big squares, flat lighting, and clipping through the geometry a bit

[arctic grove]

If you make Infantry focused maps, then I'm fine with that

Blah blah blah bf1 with no hud give me attention

[slim quiver]

I expected those from the start

But we got maps tailored to vehicle players more

Which is when I started to realize this BF isn’t for me and I’ll just play the old ones

[radiant echo]

It's like BF4 that's the thing

[slim quiver]

And it’s worked out so far

[arctic grove]

I found that out when I was running the game at 40fps

[arctic grove]

True but I want to see united states map maybe NYC time square

[spark rapids]

When is DICE going to fix the optimization?

[slim quiver]

As much as I hate BF4, it has more infantry focused maps than this game, even the ones that aren’t infantry focused in bf4 have better skirmishing

[arctic grove]

🤣

[gusty jasper]

I'm surprised they didn't just go with a balance that works for both vehicle and infantry. Orbital imo achieves that balance the best out of all maps in 2042

[arctic grove]

Like exodus trailer

[knotty iron]

i like grandmas

[radiant echo]

They said it's gonna take sometime to do engine level optimization

[subtle iron]

orbital is the best map right now

[knotty iron]

christmas*

[gusty jasper]

Facts

[radiant echo]

Orbital is so fun that I played the beta for 30 hours

[slim quiver]

I think the only 128 players was a mistake and Soderlund was right, 128 players just isn’t it

[arctic grove]

128 players (2x) on maps 4x the size never made sense

[radiant echo]

It's really hard to make a good flow out of it

[slim quiver]

Yeah which is why they never did them

[gusty jasper]

Facts x2

[arctic grove]

128 players would work on smaller maps

[arctic grove]

Maybe until may you may hear something cause Battlefield 2042 running terrible on my PS4

[slim quiver]

Soderlund said they tested more players back in BF3 age and said it just doesn’t fit the flow of battlefield

[gusty jasper]

I just want an orbital 24/7 portal mode

[slim quiver]

At most you could do like 40v40 and keep maps the same

That way you have like 8 extra guys

On each time

[arctic grove]

50 vs 50 better atleast

[gusty jasper]

Yeah 64v64 is more players than some BRs

[radiant echo]

Lars said they wanted to try to do 128 players in 1942 at some point

[slim quiver]

Meh I’d like 40v40 with intense graphical quality

I’d take that over 50v50 with less immersive graphics

[gusty jasper]

Or just 32v32 🙂

[slim quiver]

That’s fine too

[spark rapids]

As much as i hate 128 players, once i go back to the 64p modes, i want to go back and experience that pure chaos again, but maybe its just me

[slim quiver]

Maps just need to be a lot smaller than what they are

You can experience chaos

[arctic grove]

Just make maps the size of Hamada with 128 players

[slim quiver]

Based on how close they make people fight

Problem is hardware limitations

[gusty jasper]

Intimate areas for infantry creates a chaotic vibe, you need good maps to encompass that

[slim quiver]

128 people

All in one area practically

Could be chaos on hardware

[gusty jasper]

For example, Damavand Peak on rush was insane

[radiant echo]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-happy-cry-happy-tears-the-office-gif-7425816

[slim quiver]

It’s funny how people say the staple of bf is vehicles but this game has proven the opposite

If you’re a vehicle main the game is a playground, if you’re an infantry main the game is a slaughter house and you’re the cow

[arctic grove]

Biggest map in Battlefield 5 it's like 1.2k meter sq

[radiant echo]

I'd say the medium between engineers and vehicles and destruction

[gusty jasper]

I honestly can't stand vehicle player takes, they revolve around mindlessly farming infantry with little to no consequences

[radiant echo]

I'm playing both

[sour cove]

Devs having "be revived by teammates" as an objective for this week's awards feels like a personal attack

[crude tide]

can i still refund bf if i have 34 hours on it?

[gusty jasper]

Battlefield is an infantry focused game and vehicles should just be tools

[sour cove]

Tools to wipe out a mass amount of people

[gusty jasper]

Not to the extent of this game

[sour cove]

Specifically on an objective

[slim quiver]

I mean it’s always been a mixed bag game except for 1942 and Vietnam id say

[gusty jasper]

This game is literally vehicle farm simulator

[slim quiver]

Like battlefield completely abandoned naval warfare long ago

[sour cove]

Just run the homing rocket

[slim quiver]

And they also abandoned using SPGs in games

[next isle]

Up to the store

[sour cove]

Or Rao, or Sundance,

[gusty jasper]

I think you're forgetting how little cover and break lines of sight this game has

Look at Hourglass, it's literally a giant flat desert

[crude tide]

so steam for example

[violet sluice]

I got refunded with 105 hours.

[next isle]

Don't know

[arctic grove]

Well.....no exactly each map has its specific strength and weakness of strategy

[slim quiver]

Try it and find out

[gusty jasper]

And kaleidoscope is a flat, open spaced rectangle with barely any urban combat

[lost wind]

Isn’t it revive people or be revived by people?

[sour cove]

I mean even on those maps I hardly have trouble against them

[crude tide]

and they didnt accept mine 🙂

[tough zenith]

Top hr for big news I hope

[sullen inlet]

no way we gotta wait until march to get new content 💀

[spark rapids]

Steam?

[arctic grove]

BF1 I was driving a destroyer I was a happy sailor

[violet sluice]

Yep

[radiant echo]

Wait for:

[gusty jasper]

Maybe the sentence came off wrong but infantry play has less room to be mediocre than vehicle play... Because this game has mostly infantry players

[tough zenith]

Top of hr folks we can hope

[slim quiver]

Bringing that back was the most impressive thing they did

[sour cove]

Lmao that font is abnormally large

[slim quiver]

That was a homage to 1942

[sullen inlet]

havent played this game for a month, grinding eft -_<

[slim quiver]

I mean they had no submarines or carriers really but I could settle with what they did

[drowsy sapphire]

It’s literally March

[violet sluice]

Remember crashing the carrier into wake island and crashing servers? Pepperidge farm remembers!

[slim quiver]

Hilarious

[drowsy sapphire]

12 weeks of pre-seasons then we get into season 1, and that’s official, so yep… March

[slim quiver]

I remember not realizing how you could glitch the submarine through the floor of the map

[gusty jasper]

I mean good for you if you solely destroy vehicles but for players trying to combat other infantry and play obj... the flow is just not there because of the map design

[arctic grove]

They need to continue that imagine naval battles 😂

[lost wind]

Honestly wake island was my least favorite map in BFV. I still played it because I needed to level up my Japanese & American vehicles

[slim quiver]

Wake island was good in 42

[arctic grove]

I agree

[radiant echo]

[sour cove]

I'm one of those guys. On some maps, yeah it's bad, but I feel like there easy to deal with, so long as you stay on your toes

[gusty jasper]

In an alternate universe...

[tame cobalt]

bfv wake island do be kinda mid

[lost wind]

They really should have made wake island in BFV be Japanese attacking, Americans defending. To be in line with the actual battle, & to give us a Japanese attacking map

[arctic grove]

Yes the captain is here ⛴️

[gusty jasper]

Yeah of course

[sour cove]

Look if you suck just admit it

No shame in that

[arctic grove]

In battle stations we are going to objective C

[tame cobalt]

I think they didn't have the vehicles in the game for japanese attack

[gusty jasper]

Lmao

[serene thistle]

Gib Metro

[drowsy sapphire]

Which do you prefer

[sour cove]

I'd like to see some more natural disasters. Like wild fires or lightning storms

[arctic grove]

is that wake island

[gusty jasper]

BF3/BF4

[radiant echo]

yup

[serene thistle]

[radiant echo]

Or how about that

[slim quiver]

Volcano

[lost wind]

Like as in the actual assets? Yeah, they would have to add in Japanese landing craft & amphibious assault ships

[sour cove]

Also if they're gonna keep the specialists, they should make some more serious voice lines

[drowsy sapphire]

Photoshopping old maps again huh

[serene thistle]

[tame cobalt]

You forgot

[grave prism]

they wouldve needed to make japanese boats and they didnt have the technology for that .

[knotty iron]

[sour cove]

Like just a basic
"Holy shit, my buddies been shot"

Or a "don't die, not here"

[lost wind]

Who didn’t have the technology? Like the devs or WW2 Japan?

[gusty jasper]

BF1 players trying to name good aspects about the game without mentioning immersion/graphics

[drowsy sapphire]

HOLY SH*T YEA, (I just used the emojis I found and put them there but yea bad company is awesome

[grave prism]

thats what dice said about it in bf5 💀

[radiant echo]

Imagine we we have the oil rig from Breakaway in the middle of the sea in Wake island

Would be insane imo

[gusty jasper]

BF1's movement and gunplay was just not it

[drowsy sapphire]

Maaannn get that photoshop outa here, you actually got me thinking Operation Locker was coming out at first then I look at the OBJs and it’s not the same 😶

[radiant echo]

[lost wind]

Like imagine this in BFV

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daihatsu-class_landing_craft

[arctic grove]

Lol imagine naval warfare be like wake island imagine that battle

[tame cobalt]

[drowsy sapphire]

[arctic grove]

Destroyers and Carrier and submarine

[slim quiver]

Japanese ended up clapping the US at wake island

[warped pier]

that me lol

[hybrid steppe]

I'd give anything to control Arleigh Burke class destroyer in Battlefield

[sour cove]

It be cool to have a warship pop up in discarded or orbital

[gusty jasper]

🤨 repost

[tame cobalt]

wdym

[arctic grove]

Me to sailor we will dominate the sea

[sour cove]

For naval combat, you could Fire off the canons and shit

[slim quiver]

I just want to control the Yamato Battleship

[tame cobalt]

Ah like bf1 dreadnought

[gusty jasper]

Tomato Battleship

[warped pier]

go play warships

[sour cove]

Cause I think it was BF1 that had the trains and zeppelin

[hybrid steppe]

Imagine like an Arleigh Burke class Destroyer as a behemoth like the Dreadnought in BF1

[drowsy sapphire]

Battlefield V should’ve had submarines

[gusty jasper]

Submarine gameplay sounds useless

[sour cove]

Exactly. Remember watching my brother playing that game. All those big vehicles were cool

[slim quiver]

Absolutely not

[drowsy sapphire]

…

[slim quiver]

uboats were based

A lot of them ahead of their time in WW2

[arctic grove]

That be fun I ain't going to lie but the submarine we gotta watch out for 😂

[drowsy sapphire]

I mean…. You stupid or something? Battlefield 1942 had submarines and Battlefield V never had that

[hybrid steppe]

German U-Boats near the British shores were brutal

[tame cobalt]

Yeah behemoths could be a dope thing to get in a seasonal update

[gusty jasper]

was it good?

[drowsy sapphire]

Yea how are submarines useless, they can do so much

[gusty jasper]

I just never really think of submarines in battlefield

[drowsy sapphire]

Ahhhhh hellllll noooo

That stuff shreds

[frank rain]

Can someone tell me is breakthru working

[sour cove]

Would like to see more drones to. The rangers are cool, but how about one that spots enemies, or provides supplies to teammates. Instead of one just for combat

[drowsy sapphire]

So what do you guys think of woody from toy story put in battlefield…

[sour cove]

YEEEHAAAAAAAWWW

[tame cobalt]

a drone that spots enemies huh...

[frank rain]

Aa chutiye Mera weekly mission bugged tu Kiya na

[arctic grove]

everyone still hating on 2042 here

[slim quiver]

They were in the first one along with SPGs

[tame cobalt]

Supply drone is genius

[drowsy sapphire]

.?.?.?

[slim quiver]

Anyone miss artillery in battlefield?

[tame cobalt]

No

[frank rain]

Woody Woody 🤣😂😅

[queen monolith]

dear god, yes

[drowsy sapphire]

Yes, from toy story, somebody said that earlier and they weren’t wrong

[slim quiver]

No

[gusty jasper]

No

[slim quiver]

It was amazing

[gusty jasper]

Mortar was cringe

[drowsy sapphire]

Mmmmm that seems so funnnn

[frank rain]

Mera weekly mission bugged kisne kiya

[slim quiver]

Nah it was amazing

[arctic grove]

yes and no; not fun if ur on the receiving end, fun af otherwise

[drowsy sapphire]

This weekly mission is bugged?

[slim quiver]

Well yea ofc

[sour cove]

He's speaking enchantment table

[drowsy sapphire]

So why not be a sniper and kill the enemy using the artillery cannon

[gusty jasper]

Idk sitting in uncap being able to go 40-0 with no consequence doesn't sound like good game design

[arctic grove]

[frank rain]

Some one bugged my weekly mission some one from dice

[hybrid steppe]

Would have been cool to see some Howitzers like the M109 in a Battlefield.

[tame cobalt]

Not possible against artillery trucks

[drowsy sapphire]

What kind of artillery are we talking, an artillery truck? Or a deployed out-door stationary cannon

[rough meteor]

[arctic grove]

@gusty jasper ?

[drowsy sapphire]

Ooohhh ok we are talking about the truck, alright then nvm…. I mean it would be fun still but I can tell everybody’s gonna hate it because they can’t handle it

[frank rain]

Jhahar

[tame cobalt]

Correct

[frank rain]

All people playing around the world someone from dice is bugging weekly mission

[drowsy sapphire]

Honestly if they could add Commander, AC-130, and add previous remastered versions of maps this game would honestly be the best in my opinion

[tame cobalt]

add maps in what way?

[arctic grove]

Ac 130 would be fun to use

[hybrid steppe]

Eh could use without the AC130, bombers were cool though

[gusty jasper]

What

[drowsy sapphire]

I said ”add previous remastered versions of maps” so like maps from Battlefield 4 and 3 in the game BUT remastered or a little different cause of course the war is years after Battlefield 3 and 4**

[drowsy sapphire]

What…. AC-130 is daddy

[olive lake]

They'll bring back a fucking fan favourite game mode as a request. BUT NOT SAY A WORD ON PROGRESSION

[tame cobalt]

i guess... that's kinda what the portal maps are for tho

[olive lake]

Are you actually. Fucking. Serious?

[tame cobalt]

Furry moment

[hybrid steppe]

Was super OP in BF3 and in BF4 kinda meh. Bombers I did like with their cruise missiles and stuff

[drowsy sapphire]

Oh yea your right, well isn’t orbital on old map? Honestly I would just prefer new maps because Battlefield 2042 isn’t supposed to be bringing back everything from old games 👍

[hybrid steppe]

If they make Ac130 flyable though, then that would be nice

[tame cobalt]

Orbital is inspired by caspian border but it's a new map

[drowsy sapphire]

It would be nice but nah, that’s way to over-powered

[drowsy sapphire]

Yea 👍

[drowsy sapphire]

It would just be so much fun and be awesome

[tame cobalt]

Sort of like Pacific storm from BFV is inspired by paracel storm from bf4

[drowsy sapphire]

“Furry moment”

[olive lake]

Piss off didn't ask

[arctic grove]

The ac 130 would make sense in bf 2042 they could add it

[drowsy sapphire]

[fossil geyser]

So hows the game

[olive lake]

Fucking horrible

[arctic grove]

Gucci

[hybrid steppe]

bad

[desert elbow]

Exaggeration

[fossil geyser]

I heard theres more people playing 1 now then 2042

[olive lake]

Because once again they are showing they fucking REFUSE TO LISTEN

[sage dock]

I personally enjoy it.

[desert elbow]

Ur joking right

[tame cobalt]

Pretty solid but we're waiting for the season 1 update

[olive lake]

They'll bring back a mode for portal, but progression is still fucking sitting here in the dark

[arctic grove]

if anything i just want core mechanics from BF3 / BF4 back (levolution, first person executions, better environmental damage, slightly smaller maps so more fights can happen)

[fossil geyser]

Ill be coming back once season 1 comes out

[arctic grove]

Cant complain i wreck lobbies 😂

[gusty jasper]

Game is good. Just needs to work on better map design, specialists, flow, performance, content updates, developer communication, permanent modes, mouse input. Other than that, it's solid 🙂

[desert elbow]

Progression definitely needs to be improved but saying they don’t listen to the community is a lie

[tame cobalt]

See you on the battlefield

[fossil geyser]

Yup yup

[hybrid steppe]

So basically just redo the whole game lmao

[gusty jasper]

That's the joke pretty much

[olive lake]

Well they are very close to not listening. They've literally shown time and time again they don't give a fuck to those who prefer PvE

[desert elbow]

I really dislike the idea of making the maps smaller, they were designed to be larger scale

[tame cobalt]

True

[tiny imp]

Lol, cant find bf 2042 on most playing games in steam stats

[olive lake]

And the fact we're to play PvP if we want any chance of getting the weeklies is an absolute fucking stupid joke

[hybrid steppe]

I bet you're a vehicle main

[arctic grove]

At this point people are trolling

[tiny imp]

There is no bf 2042 on 100 most playing games in steam stats

[desert elbow]

I do hope they end up allowing PVE to be as rewarding as PVP, it’s a shame they nerfed it. Especially when you consider a part of the player base consistently plays against bots

[olive lake]

Yeah precisely. We're quite a big part of the game too and people often forget that.

[desert elbow]

Nah I main MGs, which were significantly better at range in Bf3/bf4

[violet sluice]

Who cares if the game has players or not when it has bot support amirite?

[arctic grove]

you know why they play against bots? it's because their PC probably kills itself playing multiplayer

[craggy marten]

Game only allow for 64 bots per server.

[tame cobalt]

They just need to add some kind of universal transport thing that's always available to everyone. Maybe a dirtbike call-in or something

[desert elbow]

Facts

[tiny imp]

https://steamcharts.com/app/1517290

7k players playing bf 2042 right now

[olive lake]

Actually that's not my reason. I just prefer playing with bots. More fun for me

Granted it does run better but yeah I just enjoy it more than dealing with the stress of players

[hybrid steppe]

I mean since there's so few communication tools or teamplay the other players mind as well be robots

[lost wind]

Dirt bike would be cool! Possibly a large transport as well, like an off-road truck

[desert elbow]

I have no clue why they did that lol, they have seperate bot modes labelled “Conquest / Breakthrough 64” so I almost feel like it was a mistake on their end

[arctic grove]

idk honestly i thought BF series was always PvP, 2042 is the first time I see PvE become a thing

[tame cobalt]

... on st*am

[gusty jasper]

First person executions

[olive lake]

Nah it had PvE options looong into the past. If anything there should have always been an option from the start if you ask me.

[craggy marten]

Maps are smaller when playing Solos/Co-op

[desert elbow]

Yeah true, something with two seats that gets called away after like 10 seconds of being unused

[lilac plinth]

New news

[gusty jasper]

I miss them so much

[hybrid steppe]

all those images collected for nothing

[arctic grove]

i've only played BF4 and it felt hella fun, even though there were sweats, at least you learnt how to deal with them, BF4 for me, feels like the best BF game

The facts that these kids didnt even give the game a 1 year and they say it's bad but yet most of them are on last gen or a shitty pc cant expect much performance

[spice vale]

2 bros sitting in a hot tub was a missed opportunity

Away > apart. Could've rhymed >:(

[gusty jasper]

The point is, they shouldn't even release a game this bad of a state

[hybrid steppe]

Are you actually defending the practice of games getting released in a shitty state but don't worry, it'll be good in 1 YEAR.

[arctic grove]

i tried 2042 and it was ?, my friend who has a 1080 Ti can't run it for whatever reason with low settings, has high input delay too iirc, and I am running a 3090 on low settings and it had around 120 FPS

[mystic vortex]

scuse-me, why the whole game is broken ?

[gusty jasper]

You can't blame people for calling a shit release... A shit release

[spice vale]

True but remember bf4 was a shit release

[arctic grove]

BF4 was at least playable cut that shit please.

[gusty jasper]

Yeah but that doesn't excuse a bad release

[spice vale]

2042 sucks cause of design

[hybrid steppe]

Yeah and it sucks and should have never happened in the first place

[violet sluice]

Not even close to 2042 though. BF4 had a great foundation whereas 2042 is fundamentally broken at it's core.

[gusty jasper]

That is true

[arctic grove]

had WAY more content than 2042, BF4 on release only had server issues iirc, unless you care to prove me wrong

The funny thing is the game is fine a few micro bursts here and there but otherwise i love destroying noobs

[sonic stag]

THIS, bf4 you couldn't play, 2042 people DONT WANT to play. big difference

[arctic grove]

???????? what the hell do you mean BF4 you couldn't play

[hybrid steppe]

Also add some problems of Bf4's launch like all the connection issues

[sonic stag]

on launch it was unplayable with game crashes

[spice vale]

Broken weapons too

[fierce gull]

Especially on consoles

[mystic vortex]

I love your comparaison between 2042 and BF4, okay it was a little broken, but the universe was amazing. 2042 is just a pure shit, abused weapons, shit specialist without any charismatic face

[sonic stag]

exactly

[desert elbow]

2042’s core is great

[spice vale]

But bf2042 suffers from design issues like massive maps that are too open

[arctic grove]

never experienced that, all i experienced was server issues only, so i don't know about you

[sonic stag]

facts

[desert elbow]

Haha no lol

[fierce gull]

Bf4 was embarrassing af especially that Xbox E3 showcase

[desert elbow]

The maps are fine, they are vehicle based, similar to other battlefields’ map selections

[arctic grove]

@desert elbow dont worry about him he is a hateful troll that hates his own life

[hybrid steppe]

Mind as well be playing War Thunder how heavily vehicle centric the maps are

[eager folio]

Anyone tried playing hazard zone?

[spice vale]

Perhaps a balance of open and close is better idk. That's just what I hear most ppl say

[sonic stag]

how about that those new announcements in #game-news HAHAHAHA dice still burrying their heads it looks like. I don't blame them. best choice would be to forget 2042 exists and move on

[desert elbow]

I’d say that was the aim, vehicles are meant to heavily influence the tide of the round

[mystic vortex]

sorry but the last week challenge was full broken asf cause an objective missing, and WTF is the next challenge ??? Woody Monckay 😂🤡

[violet sluice]

The game continues to die and here you are denying that fact.
https://c.tenor.com/-kZOB16tELEAAAAM/this-is-fine-fire.gif

[desert elbow]

Uh, no…but uhhhh sure

[spice vale]

Well this is about the game itself, not the community

[hybrid steppe]

"90% player base loss after two months"

Yeah the game is not dying

[spice vale]

Question though: Vanguard or 2042?

[mystic vortex]

I just to say thank you Dice and EA to stoled me 90€, your whole game is the worst Battlefield ever made, EVEN HARDLINE is BETTER

[arctic grove]

The community is cancer lol

[violet sluice]

So is 2042 so...

[desert elbow]

Name a game that hasn’t began “dying” at one point lol

[spice vale]

Ay don't diss hardline like that

[sonic stag]

https://steamcharts.com/cmp/1517290,1238840#1m just look at how bf1 is consistent with player count and 2042 is approaching it. but no the game is fine

[violet sluice]

The only other game I can think of that died this quickly is MAG.

[desert elbow]

Extremely true, some people will always cry about things so trivial

[hybrid steppe]

At one point usually doesn't mean after TWO MONTHS

[arctic grove]

@violet sluice the only problem i have is no voip

[desert elbow]

Grab one of those for bf4

[spice vale]

Looks like it was a shitty year for aaa shooters in general

[desert elbow]

Lol look at bf4

[arctic grove]

@desert elbow everyone is not over the age of 17 in here

[hybrid steppe]

What about it? It's a game from 2013.

[vernal prairie]

Your own fault. You should have tried the game with EA play for free. Also STOP preordering AAA games!!

[sonic stag]

i mean bf4 is what 10 years old and bf1 is 6 years old

[spice vale]

Holy shit bf1 is 6 years old???

[arctic grove]

@desert elbow as i explained to some idiots in here game dev isnt easy but they lack to understand that

[olive lake]

I'm so fucking tired. I just want to progress like everyone else. Feel like my time means something on this game that I so desparately want to enjoy

[sonic stag]

yeah released in 2016, so nearly 6

[tight rain]

Do we have information about the season 1 launch ?

[violet sluice]

That has been confirmed to be coming soon but that alone won't fix the game. There are foundational problems the vast majority of the community continually expresses.

[spice vale]

Damn I feel old

[mystic vortex]

my fault ? haha, dude, I'm a veteran since BF2 on PC, and this last one should be the renewal of the license, Battlefield is over.

[fierce gull]

Battlefield was already over

[pure basin]

Normally I would agree with you but they couldn’t even get voip in the game so I dont give a fuck about them because they obviously couldn’t prioritize correctly

[mystic vortex]

only since BFV

[arctic grove]

@violet sluice the game is fine besides some micro bursts i was playing for 5 hours yesterday no problems just me destroying kids 🤣

[fierce epoch]

Vanguard gunplay is pretty good, it’s kinda repetitive tho. BF2042 is buggy and lacks content but each match feels different and unique.

[violet sluice]

It's awesome that you are enjoying the game but when a majority of the playerbase does not there is a huge issue.

[upbeat gorge]

Vanguard is the best

[sonic stag]

this!, how on earth is a tactical squad based shooter released without the ability to communicate with your squad, ESPECIALLY in Hazard Zone. are you serious.... who the fuck said that was ok? this epitomizes what is happening over there. they are clueless, in my eyes

[spice vale]

Now that's something I haven't heard

[pure basin]

Yea no excuses imo

[arctic grove]

@violet sluice there are bigger issue like vanguard now that is a real piece of shit

[upbeat gorge]

Bf2042 is full bug

[desert elbow]

You’re right but people will never be pleased evidently

[pure basin]

Man our expectations are just so brutal huh

[desert elbow]

Is that an excuse? Lol

[spice vale]

Vanguard in comparison the best or individually the best?

[upbeat gorge]

Both

[hybrid steppe]

What are you trying to say? Battlefield 4 maintained way better player retention than 2042.

[surreal crystal]

Nice woody skin for mckay lmao

[south pasture]

🦀

[arctic grove]

@spice vale vanguard sucks

[desert elbow]

Proof?

[fierce gull]

[zealous steppe]

Potatoe

[hybrid steppe]

https://scontent-hel3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/1529980_816296641757483_2659209053083422904_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_ohc=gWSVrD-S08sAX9c1r0k&_nc_ht=scontent-hel3-1.xx&oh=00_AT_zjDionC8rXMGgBoJTwGFjboktOjU76vH2I_4sG4CUbA&oe=6207840F

[pure basin]

They had to open new servers last year for bf4

[earnest verge]

tomatoe

[fierce gull]

Cuz of 2042 hype

[pure basin]

Aka game is still going strong even now

[desert elbow]

Is that console & pc? Just console? Just pc? There’s no legend

[fierce epoch]

BF4 is OP

[wet berry]

No man. I waited for 30 mins today. Game not starting at all

[pure basin]

Why would player retention be significantly different across platforms

[hybrid steppe]

https://cdn-www.playstationlifestyle.net/assets/uploads/2014/08/BF4PS4_thumb.png Jesus Christ you're in such a denial

[spice vale]

@hybrid steppe okay but 43.3068°N, 0.7668° W

[fallen thorn]

I hope they give heli gunners the TV missile back at some point... I hate it so much that they removed it... even in portal. 😩

[desert elbow]

I’ve been playing it fine

[arctic grove]

@desert elbow yep agree

[keen gulch]

could be worse, could be splitgates old queue times

[desert elbow]

As you can see it was “dying” multiple times at launch

[fierce epoch]

Someone said update coming on the 17th

[wet berry]

Is Ground to Air Missiles not working in the game ?

Like i get the target locked, and this is when they are not Using flares. I shoot the locked target but the missile never hits the target.

[hybrid steppe]

AGAIN 90% Player base loss after TWO MONTHS

[fierce epoch]

Idk, I thought the nightbirds were just too fast for the missile

[desert elbow]

Source on that?

[fierce gull]

That's from steam

[wet berry]

No man. Even if it close, Missiles never hitting target.

[fierce epoch]

Steam player count

[pure basin]

The missiles just suck really bad

[fierce gull]

It's not counting the whole playerbase

[arctic grove]

Pc sucks anyways

[near sundial]

It’s not far off

[fierce gull]

Maybe

[pure basin]

Why would player retention be different across platforms

[fallen thorn]

if steam lost 90% the other platforms lost 90% of their players too I guess.

[earnest verge]

not a far strecht that it would be about the same across all platforms tho

[hybrid steppe]

I'm done arguing with you. You're beyond hope.

[desert elbow]

Wah wah wah

[plucky plaza]

Steam shows the general direction the game is going. Why would Steam be an outlier?

[sonic stag]

doesn't matter if it is pc only, you think magically everyone on console is still playing but only PC players left.... thats not even statiscally possible....

[still vault]

In case you want to spice up the one sided Reddit postings: https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodium2042/comments/s2739v/debunking_game_is_dead_narrative/

[lilac plinth]

news

[fiery shoal]

you can assume all platforms are losing a huge chunk of players across the board, but assuming steam makes up 1/5 of the total player count that would still mean theres some 50k players at just about any given moment

[wet berry]

Even hazard zone not working now. I waited for 30 mins and even after that, everyone still waiting

[fierce gull]

[fierce epoch]

The thing is, most of the bugs are on pc, so it makes sense for only the pc player count to drop drastically while console maintains more players. Console has been fine for the most part

[fiery shoal]

didnt think of this, i feel like pc is more likely to keep older games alive too

[fierce epoch]

It probably lost players due to lack of content and such, but nowhere near the drop in pc community

[pure basin]

Game is dead? No. Game is dying? Yes

[wet berry]

I agree with this. Majority times, I am in a squad, 2 players are always from consol.

[sonic stag]

50k of the 4.5MILLION who were around for launch.... wow

[lilac plinth]

u on the point!!

[fiery shoal]

this is the only takeaway that is reasonable to make right now

[fiery shoal]

no one said retention was good, but 50k is clearly not dead like a lot of people say

[naive quiver]

The game is still alive

[pure basin]

Game is dying not dead

[gusty jasper]

👉 📉

[hybrid steppe]

You mistake dying with dead. The game isn't dead YET but saying it's not dying is gross denial.

[sonic stag]

true, but direction is bad, as pointed out

[naive quiver]

Don’t think it’s dying either

[plucky plaza]

It's for sure dying

[empty bloom]

based

[pure basin]

Idk man player count falling off the face of the earth not a good sign…

[wet berry]

Any new updates that's going to fix some issue ?

[naive quiver]

One platform doesn’t mean all of them

[fiery shoal]

when games usually lose a lot of players compared to the first month but people only concern themselves about it when they want to shit on a game

[pure basin]

There is no reason for player retention to be significantly different across platforms. We’re all playing the same game

[earnest verge]

well no one wanna play hazard zone, that is the real pile of dog poo in gaming so nothing strange going on there to base anything off really

[still vault]

I never said any opinion other than I just linked to a post that showed some data from another viewpoint so people can be a bit more critical about what they read online.

[wet berry]

I don't know why, but i think, even if it's just a rumour, that Other than the tornado, we will receive a map that has an active volcano.

[gusty jasper]

Ofc not but steam being a large distributor, it's not a good sign when it's dipping to BF1 player counts at certain times

[naive quiver]

I’m still having fun in game , even I know that I playing with robots

[fierce epoch]

They have a list with community issues, they’ll try to fix most of them

[pure basin]

Key word “try”

[fiery shoal]

halo infinite has lost some 60% of its playerbase and its a f2p title with no major conflicts other than cosmetic prices.

[pure basin]

Games just be mad shitty recently this sucks

[fiery shoal]

i dont like infinite, but its far from shitty

[wet berry]

I think, nowadays we have great alternatives, such that we tend to go back to games other than battlefield

[fierce epoch]

[plucky plaza]

I think overall Infinite is decent

[gusty jasper]

Uhh... Aim assist?

Aim assist is one of the biggest controversies in Halo infinite rn, even being addressed by pros to keep PC player retr

[worldly mesa]

Steam is starting to refund the game even if you don’t meet their refund criteria. Get your money back lads and lasses

[fiery shoal]

ehhh, i fucking LOATHE strong aim assist, but thats not really on par of problems im thinking of, especially in comparison to 2042

[empty bloom]

what does that mean when ur previous title game has more players then current game

[lethal path]

90% drop of players...

Dead ass game

[earnest verge]

i think they did a super good job with it, feels and plays like a real halo game should, i love it but i still dont play it verry much

[wild mulch]

You have no idea, it's a big controversy right now, PC players are leaving that game because of it

[pure basin]

EA needs to hire me ASAP

[fiery shoal]

i dont fucking know, i can make a lot of assumptions but theres a ton of variable and i dont know enough to make a real guess. sadly a lot of people think they are jesus and know everything and cant be wrong

[gusty jasper]

I guess that's more repairable than 2042s problems yeah

[lethal path]

One man can't do anything

[slate snow]

Ea hire me plz 🙏

[fierce epoch]

[pure basin]

I’ll just yell at everybody

[plucky plaza]

Yeah for sure, it has the halo identity and all that, I play it from time to time but i still play MCC more

[lament plank]

https://twitter.com/Wendys/status/1481295012646334468?s=20 im going through the replies....cant help but notice a certain company dare not tempt wendy

[desert elbow]

Uh sure

[tough lodge]

i think 30 squadmate rez is going to take forever lol remind your homies!

[pure basin]

Anyone else miss last weeks skin because the melee kill wouldn’t track

[lethal path]

The funny thing is a payed on this trash 100$

[fiery shoal]

the base game is 60 bucks...

[foggy halo]

Why you and not someone else?

[slate snow]

I’ll fix this game

[gusty jasper]

you're clueless

[pure basin]

They obviously need someone who knows what battlefield should be

[fallen vapor]

LOL atleast they've learned to keep their mouth shut unless they have something worth saying.

[lethal path]

anyone can find any matches?

[foggy halo]

What are your skills?

[tough lodge]

been playing for hours now, wym?

[fiery shoal]

imo they followed the one core aspect of bf titles and thats largescale warfare mixing infantry and vehicles. sadly everything else is subpar compared to other bf titles

[lament plank]

i mean even xbox replied to get dunked on for no halo co-op

[slate snow]

I’m good at fixing games

[tough lodge]

yall need to have crossplay on if you want to find a match, it sucks but its how i manage to play

[slate snow]

I’m bout to call ea for real

[lethal path]

i can't find shit

[desert elbow]

Why would you spend money on something you wouldn’t like

[earnest verge]

i dunno bro, i play both pc and the consoles, pc for sweaty, console for fatty couch gaming, but if there is one place ppl cry its 100% on the consoles, more kids there

[arctic grove]

Lots of infinite loading screens today. And another week with no update?

[foggy halo]

Job offer accepted

[lethal path]

How would i know that im not gonna like it? I was hyped

[slate snow]

Aight lemme talk to Vince for real

[earnest verge]

u fixed alot of messy games before?

[fallen vapor]

That's mild compared to what 2042 would get

[slate snow]

Oh yeah all the time

[lament plank]

yeah thats what im saying, EA/Dice didnt even reply for a bait

[desert elbow]

Hyped by the same game you don’t like?

[earnest verge]

u must have a sick resume, apply to Dice, they hiring like 50-100 ppl under the EA umbrella atm

[tough lodge]

im bad at the game=cheaters. Console logic

[slate snow]

Bet bro they need me

[lethal path]

Im a battlefield veteran dummy

[earnest verge]

not all heroes wear capes, just dont bring that nft monkey with you to the workplace

[tough lodge]

artist gotta eat

[pure basin]

Yea marketing team did their job perfectly. Glossy veneer on a piece of poop

[lethal path]

I like your pfp

[pure basin]

I fell for the hype too

[desert elbow]

Well I guess you should’ve waited for gameplay I suppose

[slate snow]

Good

[arctic grove]

Legit can anyone get into a match because I can't.

[pure basin]

Gameplays that never came