#battlefield-2042
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Id say just drop it i think it was just a gag to sell the game tbh
nothing in portal works lol guns suck, rounds end early all the time, 10 game breaking glitches per 5 mins... this is crazy
Guess what word is banned here
scoreboard
I'm probably gonna get warned for saying the N world war word

There might be one coming soon š§
I mean id say the n word is a pretty obv one
Watch them some how screw that up too
Nascar isn't banned here
Its probably gonna be end game scoreboard
^
i really do want all-chat. i feel that'll be some hilarious interactions š
I meant nesquik
prepared to get banned
Voip too
Same the only way to say fuck you to enemies is by tbagging or spray their bodies
Iāve been tempted
lol that and kids so stressed on 2042 we just argue with each other in chat atp
Can confirm it makes you feel better
The hell does Voip mean?
Its a war game where your character curses and dies and kills people. having an all chat would hurt alot of peoples feelings and we cant have that here
Voice something something chat whatever
Voice chat
But its so satasfying when ppl call you out for cheating
@cyan drift thats why i just tbag
people calling anyone out for cheating who isn't actually cheating shouldn't feel satisfied or happy about it imo, people get called hackers or cheaters more frequently than ever so i feel its a terrible compliment for non cheaters lol
voice proximity chat would be pretty fun
insurgency and tarkov have that
"cheating" or actual cheating? because when you kill a casual too much they automatically assume youre cheating
Yeah tarkov just got it
It just says ur good
You know what, Iām gonna turn to the dark side and make classes for these guns
"cheating"
ehh not anymore imo, it used to but now a terrible person can be called a cheater or hacker lmao
Ah i actually love being called that one. its so so so satisfying like you said. people said that alot about my jet in bf3 or my AA in bf4
Honestly now I'm just thinking about two campers just talking smack to each other about 5 feet away behind walls š
Dang
doesn't have the same value as back in the day
True, because any half brain dead weekend warrior will just call you one
you predict where someone is going to be "this dude has walls, how'd he know i was there?"
šš I love people being called me a cheater . I feel proud of myself
Still pretty dang funny to me
"how did he see me???? im standing right out in the open in the middle of a field locking onto him"
if you're having a decent day or a bad day it'll make you feel better for sure someone saying that
Have there been any patches recently?
itās the best compliment you can receive as a gamer
It's better when you get a PM from the guy mad at you
if there has been the game def feels a whole lot worse
Iām still waiting for them to fix rear cam on jets as well as other jet things
yea itās just a static cam
What's wrong with jets
Im pretty sure theyre doing small fixes
Why do the heliās spawn so low on discarded?
Idk cause I havenāt played in 3 weeks. Couldnāt get a refund though so Iām hoping dice get their act together
Not really they are also doing big fixes
What's wrong with the cam, and what are the other things
we're all gunna be waiting for a hot min then
What "big fixes" for example? Im genuenly curious
Next patch includes DirectX12 , ADS issue and Crossplay off matchmaking issue
I cannot fly without the roll cam toggle. I genuinely get nauseous. And to. @arctic grove , when in rear cam you cannot roll or pitch the jet. Which is NECESSARY in a dogfight
Indeed
Can you specify the ads issue? because if its the same very annoying one i have thatd be great
No idea what the first one is. Didnt know there was an ads issue tbh and the crossplay one doesnt affect me
heās probably referring to when you get out of a vehicle and canāt ads
When you get out of a vehicle you can't aim anymore
I see, I seldom use rear cam in the middle of a fight, because nobody gets on my six in a turn fight
I donāt get why the spread is so darn high too, do they even want to allow people to get good at the game?
Oh i knew about that one but ive never had it happen
I get that one ALL THE TIME and it really makes the game unplayable
Idk man, I think the BF2042 jets are absolutely lit
yea Is this going to be changed any time soon? at least make it to where after sustained fire youre more inaccurate because realistically as barrels heat up thatāll happen
Much better than BF4 and BF3, but your rear cam thing is definitely legit
The first one crashes your game saying your gpu was removed
LMAOOOOOOO
I love being accused of hacking
I use it to identify which way the enemy jet is turning, to adjust my lift vector and go in for a cut or whatever manoeuvre gives me the advantage. Without it dogfighting is nigh impossible
itās a common problem with real guns like the MG3 and apparently the G36
Oh well im on console so again that doesnt affect me
I have that issue i just switch to my second and then back to primary it fixes that
your character is just car sick
if i try that the secondary just deletes itself and nothing in my inventory works
Thats only an issue irl after firing over 100 rounds in like a minute
Ooh damn never had that issue
so whys it happening in game within like 10 rounds
Cuz dice
Ah, I personally do not use this method. I would very much like a way to look around though. Without the ability to pitch and roll when turning your head, dogfighting is annoying, but that's been an issue in every BF.
Whatās funny is that I never use freelook unless scouting the ground for targets. I basically only use the rear cam.
BF4 gives you more control when looking back, but i hated the way the planes flew.
Like having to flick the afterburner on and off to maintain corner speed in a horizontal sustained turn is just bad
bf3 and bf4 jets combat actually had dog fights where both players didnt need to rely on lock ons lol
If you rely on missiles for dogfighting in 2042... Just LOL.
Well itās certainly a skill gap
Sounds like you have no skill if you think anyone worth a shot needs to rely on lock ons
itās satisfying to get a perfect shot lineup on a jet and melt them with the 25mm
Iāve been mostly flying in bf1. I find it super fun in that game.
Idk man i have 100 service stars in superior battlefield jets over this garbage
BF1 was awesome. Preferred BFv though. That's my favorite air combat BF
Doesnt even matter if you get a lock on by the time you get your second shot locked and ready the flare is back up again....
100 service stars and you've learned nothing apparently
I hate lock ons
Stealth jets in bf4 have superior handling and speed control over 2042 dog water jets
An attack heli can now just lock on to you from the same flight ceiling and put no effort into killing you
Kid you unironically think that 2042 jets are better then bf3 and bf4 jets PASS THE BLUNT man
Bullshit of the highest grade
A bit of a bigger ask, but Iād much prefer if they made the jets feel more āon railsā since right now they are extremely floaty and hard to be precise with unlike in bf1
i find the best counter for that is coming down on them from flying above em to set up your attack, if they wanna aim at you theyāll be pointing directly up and quickly losing altitude and theyāll crash if they donāt break aim to stabilize
BF4 and BF3 jets feel more on rails, and maintaining corner speed is cancer.
You have no experience in any actual dogfighting community i see
@arctic grove @cyan drift can you two like not
HAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
battle of the pilots
My only strat is exactly that. Fly straight up. But because for some reason the heli flight ceiling is the same as jets, all they need to do is fly straight up and they win
Did they go too far ?
Holy shit my stomach is killing me. That was funny
im gunna repeat what he said to me "say something dumb and get called out for it"
I just find it stupid when ppl fight like this
ohhh gotcha
this weeks challenge is bs
Can anyone help me with morse code part for the bf1 easter egg
Dont be sad thatās just how it works sometimes
Tells a pilot he has no experience in the dogfighting community š
Then be the bigger man and ignore it
helis balancing is weird lol they can snipe people from out of any ground anti airs range with 30mm
Bwahahahaha
kid thinks 2042 jets are better then the original f-18 in bf3... what a fucking drunk 40 year old
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And all they need to do is lower its flight ceiling and thatās 2 problems solved
I am a 40 year old kid, yes
F-35 is another round of beef i see
they exist, yes
Easy in easy out
Well have fun with that u two
How you been fam?
yes yes because everyone here knows that 2042 jets are better then bf3 - bf4 LOL
Happy new year
Tired, did an all nighter
I think Casper is less cringe
Casper is dope he doesnāt say much in general
Damn, yeah that's rough. I basically did nothing for new year so I slept in
True that
2042 jets have been nothing but pain and annoyance ever since I flew in one.
Angel is hella cringe lmao
Yeha I played some Hell Let Loose until like 1, had to get up early for a brunch thing that my neighbors did
Ye angel seems like a funny guy tho
Itās a price to pay for his very balanced gadgets
Yup heās my top operator followed by paik
One thing that really annoys me is that the air to ground is a lock on. No skill Involved like bf1 or 5, they have no jdams, no rockets. They could have done so much but nah, make it super easy with a lock on missile
Angel is like my go to operator
You said I was smoking something and that I was a drunk 40 year old kid for saying BF2042 jets are better than BF4 and 3. You didn't even ask "why do you think that?". Just straight to the insults lmao. You aren't worth the oxygen you breath.
no dude " you just suck and are obviously not skilled, 2042 jets have superior speed control, best aim with the guns, never need to lead your shots" oh and not to mention the best perk about them is that you can ram into walls and not blow up
Average angel enjoyer
Angel is like peak
You know nothing of speed control
you just need your electricity privileges' revoked at this point tbh
yea
I just main sundance and mackay cuz movement will always be the most fun for me
Yup they the best
You dont tbh, and its sad. you probably got thrashed on both bf4 and bf3 and thought jets were bad. came into 2042 spammed lock ons against ground a couple times and thought it was the best thing ever lol
No one asks how is boris :((
btw what i said was 100% sarcasm and i agree with you
Do I need to explain energy management for you? Have you ever read an EM diagram? Have you ever flown a real plane? I do know a thing or two š
Iāve only ever been a good pilot in bf1, itās the only one Iāve put significant time into, but I agree that bf4ās speed control is a good mechanic that creates a significant skill gap. Maybe itās not realistic but itās a good mechanic
So about that morse code easter egg
Oh man this is fun
I just got killed so fast to the point where I said āwhat the hellā and then saw that it was the ac-42 and understood completely
Why is it fun lmao
This is where ur wrong it doesnt matter if its realistic as long as its fun its battlefield were talking about not war thunder and i know that jets just arent fun rn
ah yes because jets in real life fly as slow as they do in battlefield and do and engage like they do in battlefield same as real life... go out side man
@surreal crystal k
No I just like it when random guy tells an actual pilot that he doesn't understand speed control in an aircraft.
No worries g
U a pilot IRL ?
"actual pilot here guys, believe me because i said so"
But he's gonna keep throwing insults, not letting me explain my point about "speed control"
No he is literally a jet
where do you work?
Yup and what do u fly ?
heres an actual guy who works on jets and flies btw
Warriors, arrows, 172s, 150 is probably my favorite.
i find no reason for him to lie since itās easy to expose something like that
I donno much about aircrafts but its really cool u fly one IRL i appreciate that :))
flying real planes doesnt translate to flying arcade planes in an arcade battlefield game... its simple
Is this really worth arguing about? If F-35 doesnāt like speed control then so be it. Not everyone HAS to like it.
Yup pretty much any game doesnāt translate to real life
I work for Northrop and build the F35
Truth be told, the aircraft I fly are nowhere near military, however, I do know a thing or two about flying and the dude was basically just throwing insults before I had a chance to explain my point about why I prefer BF2042 aircraft handling over bf4
Pog
its more not knowing wtf hes talking about in a game and fighting everyone who disagrees with him lol
Oh that's fucking ironic coming from you
Everyone lets relax and meme about Angel
Well let him explain it then
Finally something i can get behind
"youre an idiot or just bad if you think bf3 - bf4 jets are better then 2042 jets"
I literally never said that
really?
1v1 rust only way to settle this shit
You practically called me an idiot for the opposite claim. No, I never said you were an idiot for prefering bf4, I said you were an idiot for not letting me explain
hmm whats that then?
id like to see them 1v1 with jets in portal
Lets goo
and both die on take off the run way lmao
Where the fuck am I insulting anyone in this?
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These dudes use jets in bf no way they could handle rust recoil
4 stock, final destiantion. Fox only.
oh he means the mw2 map rust
I was saying @pine roost had a very good point on the camera issue, but I prefer 2042 jets for other reasons
Eyo u guys both are nice pilots no need to fight haha
Bro Last Tiger campaign is probably the best campaign in bf, at least in the ones i played
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooh im stupid
nahhh ur good
I said you were unskilled for thinking that reliance on lock ons in 2042 was a requirement to be effective
Exactly

in terms of the game being a game, BF3&4 are better
But in terms of real physics, 2042 Jets are better. Still no where close to real life.
I never. Not a single time, called you an idiot for prefering bf4.
when the guns dont work and have more spread then ARs on the ground. then most people are going to rely on locks is my point
which is exactly what most people do in the jet
However the guns on BF2042 for the F35 are no where near accurate
The main cannons are definetely better in a dogfight, itās mostly heli lock ons I despise
Northrop doesn't build the F-35 iirc
But not good for long range, precise shooting
yes they do
Subcomponents and whatnot. I know Norhtrop makes the APG-81
They should upgrade bf1 and bfv for the ps5 xbox series x plssss dice that would be awesome
Do I buy BFV or 2042
I have BFV on Xbox but I want to buy it on pc
Build is kinda vague. Majority of the actual airframe is manufactured by Lockmart
Currently id say go with bfv, its more polished imo
Jet go brrrt
I just got Play Pro you get both for 1/4 of the price
Yeah I absolutely loved it, do you know if I buy BFV on steam I can bring my progress over onto pc?
EA needs donations where do i donate for this absolutely amazing company
There is no L mate
But Iād imagine jets are the last on their list of things to change. Since only like 5% of the player base fly them seriously
Buy their games
Are you sure you want to donate to them
@pastel forge yes they need all the money to become best comapny ever
How do i turn on an FPS and Ping counter in game through the EA App
lol here I am trying to get my money BACK
"northrup grumman doesnt build the f-35"
I wouldnāt give it blindly, maybe give them money along with a suggestion maybe with some cash theyāll actually be open to it

lmao 
@pastel forge im joking actually praying for EAs downfall
I dont think so unfortunately, i may be wrong tho
I hope they get their act together lol
Dozer is a commie, aka cuck
Dozer a chad
Alr thanks
Even with that I still think Iād rather buy BFV than 2042
I also said that the majority of the aircraft is manufactured by lockheed, but NG does some components as well as the APG-81. and I said this before he even sent that. To say Northrop builds the airplane is vague
Fighter aircraft are not built by a single contractor
Even bae is involved
Please keep the chat relevant to 2042
@idle relic isnt this in a northrupgrumman building? being "manufactured"
I like the F-35 but I think 1 trillion in spending on its development is a bit... much.
I mean, itās about a vehicle in the game so I think itās still technically relevant
Does it really matter

You are fucking stupid LMAO. Read what I just said
@surreal crystal trying for mod position?
I just want them to be fixed and updated 
I was just doing some tomfoolery
hey im not the one backtracking on everything im saying now that i brought someone who actually works on and knows what hes talking about
If they get paid why not
Nahhh
I didn't backtrack, I literally fucking said that way before
I dont think they do
Yup practicing here
We should have a channel devoted to BFV
Unless im blind and havenāt seen one
youre backtracking hard.. and im done here. we've proven you dont know what youre saying. again
Battlefield community: GAME HASNT BEEN UPDATED IN 10 DAYS GAME'S LITERALLY DEAD
Titanfall community: 
Just a joke since people say mods here get paid for defending EA
Oh ye lol
They gonna come back when the season pass trailer releases 
Titanfall is in a better state now than it was 2 weeks ago
Lmao š
Didnāt they say there isnāt gonna a new Titanfall game
I mean we have #battlefield-legacy-titles which ig is kinda devoted for that
You just can't read because you're an illiterate dog. Do you need tutoring babe?
Enough of Apex we want titanfall 3
going to insults because you dont know what youre talking about? again? damn thats crazy
That escalated quickly lol
Even though apex is fun, imo its kindaaaaaaa overrated
Yea I mean specifically for BFV yk like this channel
hes fuming lmao he cant help being wrong and angry

Yeah nah there aint one for that
What if they added BFV to portal every content and mechanic to the game š§
No no, it's not an insult. It's very accurate observation since you can't read. Anyways, it's ironic that you of all people are now crying about insults.
Apex is a lot of fun but battle royales are starting to feel dull
like i said... fuming.. feed your kids or something man
Quiet dog
when apex no longer becomes profitable, only then will we be getting a slight chance of a Titanfall 2 sequel
Quit barking so much. People are talking here
"i dont know what im talking about, got called out and now im mad" Lmao
Fuckin A man my internet is dogshit, keep getting kicked from HLL servers
Agree i think its gonna be EFT style games everyone will milk it just like BRs lol
The community will probably do smth
I'm surprised you could type that sentence. I'm so proud. You are learning
F35 never fails to provide entertainment

"
Aviation Week Honors Northrop Grumman with the Laureate Award in Defense Manufacturing
"
so not vague "build" we do have the word "manufacturing"
man youre really mad right now, take a break put on your helmet and go for a walk
@cyan drift I'm sorry boy, I don't have any treats for you. Maybe next time
Why are you guys arguing about the production of the F-35
How did this even originate
HLL menu is sexy tho
man another person that knows what theyre talking about disproving your point. crazy
On portal can we gain progression yet? Haven't played any yet and just wanted to know
It started with dogfighting
I think itās capped
mainly with him getting mad and throwing insults when i disagreed lol
You can gain full progression in portal modes published by dice like tdm but custom it's still capped
Did I not say almost verbatim that Northrop Grumman manufactures certain components as well as the APG-81?
Ah ok. Thanks for the info
But saying that they build the F-35 is vague
Who
just give up man, its sad at this point
This dog is still barking because it can't read. Hilarious
thereās no reason for insults in this it doesnāt help
Saying that to both sides

U guys need to relax or u will be shown angel cutscenes back to back REPEATEDLY
i guess im not allowed to insult back because thats when the mods decide to do something lol
I'm not insulting him. Is it an insult to call a dog a dog?
He's certainly not smart enough to be human. That's for sure.

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Twitch emote moment
hes just an angry man typing away on his computer alone in a dark room, let him be angry he didnt know what he was talking about.
U two keep this up and u both will be warned
It's fun to watch tho
So who is winning here
For a dog, he's quite good at typing
The audience
This is bad man :((
I donāt even know what the argument is lmao
Idk some company that makes jets?
Probably the smartest one I've met. He deserves a treat
I think theyāre arguing over who builds the F-35
Why?
I think (I think so it could be wrong I have no evidence) that multiple companies do
A-10>
guy, just drink your budweiser alone in your room and rethink your life choices. no need to argue with me
I'm not arguing anymore. I'm just playing around. Seeing how long he keeps replying.
idk lmao
Brrrrr
It does go brrrr
They better add more jets to this game soon
fix the ones we got too
We need an actually agile jet
i dont agree but you have a point about some situations they get put in and thats fine
Jets in the game so hard to manoeuvre
more jets like which ones?
For best sustained turn, keep the Afterburner on
Which part do you think is op
It's very different than other BF
is the A-10 in 2042?
No
No but it should be
crazy, if you kept afterburner on in any other battlefield while turning youd die. idk why they would reverse that if thats true
Brrrrrr
No jet in the game to provide cas
Idk why they changed it, but that is more realistic. I prefer the new, but that's subjective
In a horizontal turn at least
thats fine that you prefer that, im used to the old ways though and prefer them
I rly dont like the new jets they get bullied by the littlebirds
Wait how do the jets get abused by tiny helicopters
I want them to add unguided bombs and rockets that actually take some merit of skill to use and can have some creative applications like the trench fighter pellets
Because they are so much more agile
F-35 with 30mm cannon and Air to ground is Infantry/vehicle killer you can easily destroy tanks and if you can find a perfect spot to VTOL you can easily kill people that are on ground
Yeah I'm usually way out of reach doing hit and run
I think I have a clip somewhere where I killed like 10 people on ground while vtol
100%. We need bombs. Bombs were great in BF1 and V. Idk why they regressed
They should bring back the old menu for bfv, this pacific one is getting boring
They need to add the AC-130 backš«š«
i wanna sniff u
Air to ground is far to easy to use, and tanks donāt have effective countermeasures. I believe the initial CM for tanks canāt block lock ons can they? Can someone tell me if thatās the case?
Wouldnāt a jet be more armored and have more weapons
That turns me on
Why do people think that saying insults makes their point more correct and better? Like no, you lost an argument and now youāre turning to insults because your sorry ass couldnāt take the defeat.

F35 turn too slow than SU
Snifffff
I know thereās like a thermal countermeasure later on but Iām unsure since I havenāt played in weeks
Idk it ruins any chance of a real argument yk
2042 helicopters are so tedious and requires no skill to use. Jets are extremely hard to drive and require massive amounts of skill
battlecuck 2069 is great for gamers and their wives' boyfriends
Is this game any good yet, like has it improved or is it still ass?
Tanks can barely counter air to ground missiles that's a huge advantage to jets
Yup, 100% agree
When did the hell did I press on reply
Iām just doing a quick google search about this
But wildcats are hard to get if the person is playing with it correctly
If it's just a dumbfuck in a vehicle that's easy kill
Just wondering but why do some players sit in the back of their spawn with tanks (not afk of course)? Like what benefit is in it? This is an actual general question
They don't want to die :p
I feel like wildcats are a lot harder to use than the Flak tanks from V
I don't encounter much resistance from them. Only been shot down by one, and it was a really good kill on that dudes part
Ok so it seems like the initial CM for tanks canāt block air to ground
That's dumb
It just seems weird to me, cause why buy a shooting game, when you donāt want to engage barely anyone?
But in bf4 the first one you got blocked those lock ons.
Just goes to show how they didnāt even think about it. Give tanks ir smoke off the bat, then they can do something against the AGMs. Then add unguided bombs that take skill to use and canāt be blocked for the people who want a challenge and a more effective weapon
Thatās why tanks find jets so annoying then
The only hope for tanks is to pray that one of their shells does a trickshot lol
Tanks canāt really do anything against jets and arenāt really supposed to. Thatās part of the Rock Paper Scissors balance philosophy
Or have wildcats next to them
LFS Breakthrough or Conquest NA
V had lots of effort but lots of the stuff in it, at least at launch was recycled stuff from bf1
Yeah that's pretty valid in a lot of regards. I just think V just had a lot more effort put in than 2042
yeah but 2042 has epic turbo cool operators!!!
Iād agree with that. I could talk for hours about everything I hate about 2042. Bfv only has a couple things I donāt like
Yeah bf2042, at least for me, just aint it, im not connecting with the game as much as i did with bf1, bfv, or even bf4
Bfv was a good bf game, just not the result of passion that bf1 was
Felt more like a mandatory sequel to capitalise off of bf1ās success. But itās still more battlefield than 2042
I like it, but... No pats are obviously a lazy concept.
Yeaaah
"how do i minimize the amount of research I have to do on uniforms and country specific equipment... Get rid of countries"
I actually really like specialists, but it's the fact that everyone has the same face, and it's not country specific that gets me. Also, why don't we have china or eu as faction?
Iāve never been one who is interested by history or knows all about WW1, but the voice lines and art direction gave the game so much energy and atmosphere, which 2042 entirely lacks
BF1 voice lines were horrifying. Hearing dudes scream when getting burned to death. Felt like a war.
There have been problems with releasing China based content in battlefield games in the past, thatās why
How I would have done specialists is keep the class system, yet have universal weapon types so all classes can have some guns like DMRs, shotguns, and carbines. Yet the gun best oriented towards that class would be locked to it, like lmgs are locked to support. Then each class would have traits that would in turn give them the specialists abilities. Like assault has the grapple hook and wingsuit.
As for gadgets it would be on par with that as the normal classes, but maybe have some universal gadgets, idk what those might be tho
I personally hate everything about specialists
For me it's just cosmetic lol
Also, have any of yall heard the easteregg song at the very end of the Bf1 epilogue?
Gameplay wise, I actually love it.
Idk why the wingsuit couldnāt have just been one of two assault gadgets
Specialists play well, but im just stubborn and like me classes lol 
In SOME instances ig it does, but overall after playing some more, its fine imo
I have my own views on that though due to the way I play.
The teamplay is still there
It ruins the feeling of having a definite roll in the team, and since there are no restrictions you donāt need to mould your playstyle around your class and that role
Yeah. In a nutshell, it's an unnoticeable change
Idk im just worried about balancing, like what if later down the line ppl come up with op builds and loadouts
I love being the medic. Itās my job to keep everyone alive. My weapon forced me to think about engagements and stay at medium range, while I focus on keeping the team up.
But in 2042 an assault can wield a K30, a medkit and a wingsuit with grenades that are anti everything
Instead of me being the medic, one person is basically everything
Imo they should not make another historical game. If they go with the mw19 cosmetics train, they would just absolutely butcher another ww1 game
I might be the support who sets up defensively and ensured we have ammo, now a recon could just drop ammo
Yeha i liked the tradeoffs of classes, its as if u dont get punished for anything u do with specialists
Itās just sad. It strips away what I like about battlefield
Bf 2042 went with a bad vehicle pool except for the condor, tanks and transport vehicles.
Same, specialists work well sorta, just rather have classes
I defended them at reveal, but now I just have a burning hatred for them
I donāt think I could even bring myself to play until they change how they work among many other things
classes but a tiny bit less gun restriction would prob be a sweet spot that most would be ok with, everyone who talks about specialist as far as ive seen say the good part about it is they can run the gun they want, so maybe just not allowing snipers on every class and we good
Bro i remember hearing the news of classes being gone at the reveal, my hype just went
immediately
I was too excited about a new modern battlefield to let anything bring my hype down
Boy was I blind. I should have seen the signs. I regret it now
So when they gonna add Recker to the specialist list since he is still alive and Irish is in the game
no
I want him old and talk
Yeah, idk i like my restrictions on classes for the most part, maybe just have restricted weapon types and universal weapon types like the ones in bf4
Also if they add him they better add bf4 to portal as a side on the plate
Add Captain Price!1!1!1
I really like the class restrictions
Irish > captain price
no
yes
Irish fell off a dam and survived captain price only survived a heli what a pussy
Imagine having played a cod game before
yeah id prefed that aswell, but these days u gotta cater to the 1% aswell im affraid
Im sorry but Irish imo just isnāt interesting, the bf4 campaign was just boring af, never finished it, mostly because it wouldnt fucking save my progress!!!
no
Yeah it was kinda boring and broken as well
In the second mission the person who goes through your van is still there
Yup, and the helicopter not getting destroyed in the first mission is still a bug
Wasn't a russian character from bf3 in the campaign I forgot his name
But still I want recker
He never talked in the campaign and seeing him talk in a trailer would be hype for me
They never really fleshed out the lore of this did they?
Bf4 or 2042?
2042
Well they had a lot of lore set up. A surprising amount. They just abandoned all of it for the game itself
Bf lore imo is useless, nearly every campaign has been either trash or mediocre, idk why they want to create a whole universe when they have a house of cards as their foundation
Ah. Yeah idgaf just kinda interesting.
Bf1 campaign and last tiger in bfv are good tho
I like this game a lot but I have many criticisms. I find that my criticisms are rather unconventional though
And I disagree with many of the mainstream gripes
edge lord
Bf1ās atmosphere gives me enough story to understand the battle, the stakes, and provide that push to fight in that map
Wtf theres a glitch in the bf1 prologue where all the british soldiers have ivory skins on their guns lol
That reminds me I need to try some operations in bf1. Iāve been mostly playing conquest to fly planes. I tried breakthrough in 2042 but I felt it was just so irritating to play
BT and Rush in 2042 are terrible
Breakthrough is chaos and i love it
Seeing your teammates getting burned to bits by some condor with 30mm in one tight area is fun
You see, I donāt like total chaos
There needs to be some method to the madness to allow for strategic thinking. When everything is completely out of your control I find the experience to be incredibly annoying
My first bt match was defending on discarded (and so was every subsequent match for some reason), and I never felt I could use any sort of cover to protect myself
Well thats partly the terrible map designs fault
Makes me want to buy the bf1 dlcs and play through them. But I made a mistake and canāt buy it on origin which is a pain
Anyways itās time to sleep
I remember when my teammates were getting crushed so I joined a transport vehicle and told the pilot to land on the roof and man did a clean landing on the Helipad while the gunners cleared the roof. We got off going downstairs and destroy those who had the high ground and man our team took that point like chads. I loved that moment
Is 2042 still bad?
That what you call teamwork
BF 2042 Squad 1 looking for 1 person
when's season 1 coming out?
March
oh lol congrats to EA and DICE for making the downfall of this game even worse
never learn from their mistakes do they
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If they nerf the ac-42 and the pkp the game will be 1000x better, but itās wayyyy better than when it launched
thanks
nah you forgot the content and bugs
great, another doom and gloomer
The lag has gone down a ton and a lot of bugs have been fixed
The game is actually playable (non-like when it launched)
yeah its more playable true but still
bugs need to get fixed so bad but yeah nerfs + content is gonna be nice
We don't really know the confirmed date
For the content, well fuck them for making season 1 in March
they pulled this shit off with bfv before didnt they?
Yeah but still it sucks
bfv had a map out in a month iirc
i skipped bfv
I didnt dislike bfv tbh
hell nah
I skipped it but didnāt stop watching content on it
i liked the tone and all that
yea panzerstorm came out in less than a month of launch for bfv...
not to mention hazardzone credits get useless after a while
i think it took 2-3 months for it to get firestorm and another map, so not nearly as bad as 2042
i want to ask whats a 2% sens for pc
Exodus is coming out in March š„²
yea 2042 is doing worse in that regards, nothing to "learn from" though considering bfv was the first live service title and put out content fairly quick
or what would 2% equal to on controller sens
in game sens is only 1/3 of what makes your "sum sensitivity"
dpi and windows pointer speed being the other 2
Whats exodus
oh i see
@fiery shoal so there is no way of telling what a pc sens would equal to a controller sens
not that i know of, sounds rather impossible considering your controller sens would change by your own settings and game by game
is a 3 sens fast on pc
imo the philosophies of controller and mouse are different too, you can run a fast speed on a controller pretty easily since you get things like aim assist that will literally lock and stick to enemies for you to a degree
@fiery shoal
Is it possible to dodge heat seekers with the night bird?
on pc most people recommend going with a slow sensitivity so you can aim better. like i said in game sens isnt really the whole picture
lol everyone somehow does except me
I seem to even get killed when I go behind a building. Sometimes I swear it goes THROUGH to me
Have yāall heard of clown field 2042
No
i want people to go look at the steam charts for this game, youll get a good laugh out of it. I promise its worth ur time
yeah 15k online players
its hilarious
i get a good laugh out of the game itself
youre like the 100000th person to bring this up, steam is probably not even half of the pc playerbase itself either
ok and........?
same could be asked about you bringing up steam numbers
heard the game is cheaper on origin yeah?
It's like 16% according to Tom handerson
so ur telling me 100k people bought it thru steam and thats NOTHING? you must be dumb if u think the game dropping to 15k players isnt a huge player base dropout
both the same price afaik, but since 2042 launches through origin anyway most people likely bought it on there
i doubt that, Origin is a shit launcher
agreed
ok siege managed to drop from 200k to 40k
fuk yea man
it being a shit launcher doesnt change the game launches through steam no matter what so people wouldnt buy it on another launcher to use another launcher to play the game anyway...
sorry i fixed up that confusion
i did, most people likely did, steam is way better
ok man u think what u want
this isnt a "what i think" scenario... the game launches through origin no matter what...
EA and all associated products suck ass and thats a fact
^
mmk bud
but they bought ut through steam therfore registering it through them, WHICH 100k people did
guys stop telling him we all bought it on steam you're scaring him
so please use ur head b4 arguing
2 people doesnt equal all
this is some bait not gonna lie
yea this guys either mad stupid or trolling
... are you really using peak numbers as ALL copies sold?
i did not say that once
thats why im asking...
m5a3 good to use?
there man look at what i 1st said
unlike you i will ask to clarify something instead of just assuming whatever i want
yea that also suggests you think theres only 15k pc players at any given time
wanting it or not, player base has dropped a lot
thats what i was saying but this guy big mad
I see hella lot of bots these days on the AOW modes
this is true, and i assume its lost more players on average, but we really dont have that average to go off of and dont have a way of even knowing origin, ps and xbox numbers either
m5a3 good to use?
slap a CQC mag and you're good
i assume a region other than na or eu?
Eu
combine a mf cqc mag and short barrel and you got a knock off vector
youre the first person ive seen say they have bots in AOW in EU
Can't wait for new trailer for season pass and gun shots matching music beats and steam playecount goes to 100,000
in late night gaming seshs like now yeah
xplay on or off?
on
k
surprising, i can play at 3am and get into full lobbies, na west
Balls
I mean the lobby gets full after a while
in ur mouth
most matches late at night start at about 50vs50 but fill shortly after
I have bots sometimes but only for like the first 2.mins of the game im eu as well
jets need a fucking buff tho, the 30 mm is like watergun to infantry and oh dont mention the bloooom
yeah like that
jet players trying to get to T1 when they realize infantry kills don't count:


š
I literally gave up after getting the 30mm on both
i mean.. thats not really "seeing hella bots these days" imo
first weeks lobbys were full no matter when
i thought you had half lobbies of bots and the match never getting full
Thats any game ever tho
having 1/8 of the match start with bots and it fill eventually after midnight isnt really something to write about
still it was weird after like 2 weeks this happened
I realized that like 2 days ago but tanks are easy to get š§
oh helis are too
Lol helis are so easy to annoy with jets
eh until they team up to hunt you down which happens very often to me
Whatās the whinging today @fiery shoal
lol
honestly I Love the game and the futuristic vibe, devs need to get their heads outa the cave and fix stuff
something original
:)
Where my regular role at
and oh give me my operation metro too
imagine being the unfortunate soul who actually enjoys bf campaigns
I enjoyed bf3
I loved the ones for 1 and 5
the last bf campaign i played was bf3
4 was good too
The part where a jet chases you was pretty good

yeah they gotta let you grab any weapon from any era with any operator as it is advertised
I like this 
grab ma magnum
where can i send pic
Why is 2042 so fun?
idk
theres always a bunch of shit going on as long as youre not stupid and walking out in the open as infantry for whatever reason
I actually mastered the bullet drop off for 2042
Cause I can spend 20 million dollars on it
wanna see one of the reasons irts fun
Anyone wanna party up in BF2042?
You have 40 million dollars
giv
Give me it
no
wjp wana see bst poarking in history
Yes
pogg m ysaquad go first in all out warfare
Only if you get 200 metre headshot with magnum
Ok challenge accepted
Mustget
What does S003 mean? Been seeing some players with that level. I'm guessing it's max
level 103
Means 102, 100 is skipped and you got s001
Ah makes sense
Anyone else having issues joining servers right now?
Just stuck on the Squad overlook loading screen every time I try and join a game.
@copper copper I'm getting the same issue
usually when I'm in a squad. it just loads but does nothing. Have to exit the game in order to play again
ik it's prolly a common question but what you guys Fav battlefield?
mmmmmm probably battlefield 4
that's... fair, but i would probably say battlefield 3
yeah 3 is good as well
i like the whole push/retreat map design in bf3 compared to the more all over the place scattered battles across the map in 4, it's just more tense and chaotic that way for me
What is lfg
I find bf3 to be a bit more challenging than the others
*looking for a team/group
Oh ok
like for example near the beginning the sniper part its just one shot and your dead
yeh the community are a littly bit sweaty these days, although, the story is still great
BF2042 has put me on the same map like 4 times in a row
Most of the battlefield 2042 reviews I read on the microsoft store were saying how battlefield 3 is a lot better and kept mentioning battlefield 3
average day in 2042 tbh
Yea and I got roadkilled by a heli earlier
yeh community can be a bit obsessed and it's kinda, sad, there quite toxic about it sometimes tbh
Some weird stuff happens in this game
yeh 2042 aint exactly, let's say playable
yeah I have just stuck to the campaign just to get a feel for it
or good in any way
but yes they do seem pretty obsessed with it
battlefield 3 is the only bf campaign i like
where does one post clips
best battlefield campaign is black ops 1
I like battlefield 4 I just took a break cause I got stuck on the tank part
battlefield maybe? i'm not sure tbh
which mission
Can't remember, I will have to try to find it
u want eurofighter typhoon in 2042 ?
that would be sick tbh thinking about it
Its singapore
oh yeh i HATE that part
yep i also want f-15 and a-10 but sadly game is set in future
Map rotation sucks in 2042
yup
yeh f-15C's are fckin awsome
Itās same like in 5
Yeah, there are a bit too much tanks for my liking, of course its a tank mission so you would expect tanks. The tank health gets really low which usually forces me to get out of the tank and try to use anti armor gadgets to try to blow them up, not very successful at it though.
your profile picture is beautiful š
kinda sick of A-10's though bcs they can never get the brrrt right
š i love a-10 its cute
thank you, it's a su-47 against a su-30
No one wants to play with me
i like the model of su-57
ik it pisses me off SO BAD, it takes me like half an hour to complete with rage breaks
very sleak the su-57 is
which jet is your favourite ?
prolly the su-47
or the rafale as much as it hurts my british pride
Is there any way to switch teams in portal?
isnt it cancelled ?
i love the design of f-15 eagle
yeh but stilla cool aircraft
Have yall seen the f16 strafe
very striking and bulky, it looks really intimidating i love that aircraft
isn't it a f-16 falcon?
oh you mean the f-16 doing a strafing run
Yes
no actually i would like to
SR-71 is also beautiful
i got kicked because of inactivity š¤£
that one is so huge yet so sleak and fast, it's almost unatural
yeh not enough russians in the new battlefield to spy on
the time when it was built bro that thing was ahead of its time
it would be still ahead of it's time if it released today!
there is one more B2 BOMBER
B21 is releasing soon
with the new update, society 1.8.07
nice
the earth will have an update
š
and release it
MILITARY OVERHAUL 1.8.07
earth is more optimised that battlefield 2042 lmao
Should I use uniform soldier aiming if I am going to mess with each zoom sensitivity itself?
i feel like from world war to 2000 scientists , engineers and researchers , doctors were crazy
š earth can fix itself though
yep and it doesn't monitise earth, FOR NOW
yep earth is amazing halo , no mans sky made me realize this š„²
AAA company's when you say earth is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2shM0jpR0I
š
i guess you could say... WE LIVE IN A SCOCIETY
a sad society where everyone is mean
everyone is greedy
and depressed
yea
is battlefield 2042 working for you guys?
yup other than the normal flying tanks
huh, it must just be my wifi or something
it cant just be me because it seems like everyone else is in the queue for a very long time
it will do the helicopter/vtol thing and then it will say waiting for players until it just stops because it took way too long (about an hour)
idk restart your pc maybe
game dead
great, all my controls reset and my mouse isn't working again
Boblox is better
loving the mp9 right now
Mp9 is good, probably going for t1 on that soon
OI! Shut it! Its a good game when it works.
crazy how this chat really died off after 2 months
im already for some new maps tho
game is full of ai already
i had the worst games so far today, game is truly dying lol
getting put on teams with AI is not fun
What are the best gun
Devs need to really try to redeem themselves, the game is pretty good and has potential but its really buggy
I think the starter smg is really good
Mm
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I hate how jets are unkillable but at the same time are terrible is it even worth my time to see if DICE can even scrap something out of this terrible design
or if more likely not enough people care and all the OG vet pilots just stick to BF4 and ignore 2042
So sick of being killed by the PKP such a cheap weapon to use at the moment
You can do some crazy maneuvers in those jets
pkp the new meta eh?
all cool and all cinematically speaking .... i guess
Probably shit that's not even possible.. I think, lol
well thats a given battlefield has always been an arcadie take on jets
Takes no skill to use, makes average players seem good at the game bad things should happen to people that use it
You can do this weird slow drift thing like you're going impossibly slow but still in the air it's nuts
Would be nice if they could have a passenger
Thats all cool but jet gameplay to the average pilots is basically: Locking onto crap for a minute tops before you inevitably crash into a building because the physics suck
Lol or that big fucking wall
the worst part is that they have tried their damn hardest to make the skill ceiling as low as humanly possible made one jet turn faster make the guns terrible and bloom worse than a roman candle minigun
got rid of all skill based weapons replaced them with lock ons only
Yeah people still suck at it big time though, especially myself lol
I think there's just basic techniques you need to know to be good at it. And patience like the Dhali Lama
there really isnt anymore there use to be
That bolte always be calling my name even though how bad they nerfed it
my problem is in the attempt to make jets playable for anyone they made it boring for everyone
Had it really changed much from bf4?
massive change
Or you talking about bfv1 and V where the planes sucked ass
its not just a change its a complete overhaul
planes in BFV were great? and strong they are nowhere near this power level in 2042
I've only ever been a bare minimal jet user in bf so I haven't noticed much difference
I only tried the places in bf1 I remember , and being hard to maneuver but was fun
ive probably spent like 2k hours in jets in BF3 1k in BF4 and also 1k in BFV
so far in this game ive spent like 100 hours and its been the worst experience ive had
Easier to do damage on if youre infantry. Planes were like cardboard
Goddamn that's insane
I enjoyed the gameplay there was a skill ceiling which make the experience worth it
I really hate those anti armor grenades Sundance has
I'm pretty sure they even lock on to jets.
Yeah but you can just ignore them
You can tell the difference because there isn't the yellow "locking on" thingy at the bottom, so you know not to waste the defence system
If you don't see a lock on warning before the incoming missile then yeah I guess
But people are becoming smarter. They mask their actual intent, by first throwing a Sundance grenade and then an AA launcher
me in hazard zone queue rn -_-
there are no players it sucks, cause I actually like the gamemode
AA is broken right now theres that terrible bug where it can insta lock on if you stay on a vehicle after flairs are poped
Even with crossplay enabled?
oh true I've just got it turned off
Yeah the AAs need some work
Definitely need to enable crossplay to have a chance finding a game on hazard
thanks I'm trying it now. Hopefully I don't get a squad with some clueless Xbox players;) but that's just my prejudice hehe
I think they're fixing a lot of stuff we just need to be patient
Yeah I agree, and it's not "cOmPLeTelY unPlayABlE" like some people suggest
I'm just hoping for new maps with more close quarters combatš¤
There is a level 1 Xbox player on my teamš
but at least I got a game
It's hard
Lvl 1ās arenāt always bad
They went with the whole world is dying from global warming so it seems like every city has been wiped out completely.
I applaud their creativity in choice of locations. Really interesting concepts
Singapore is by far the best map though overall
Imagine the effort to create a to scale ruined city with wreckage, and plant reclaiming life fit for enough players. Kinda like what division 2 Map is like, that would be cool.
hazard zone is so broken I was just thrown out of the game after it said "starting" for 5 minutes
I'm thinking they could do something similar to operation locker (BF4) or underground (metro) from battlefield V just on a larger scale
ok also PKP needs a damn nerf this is nuts
Yeah they said that's what the stadium is for on hourglass but not everyone wants to go there in Conquest
Actually this is one of my favourite areas of the map
It is cool but still nothing compared to those older meat grinder maps
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Agreed
I bet they're taking all the feedback over the last month and building a new map off it
Games better with crossplay turned off anyway
1 new map that doesnt have the current issues wont fix map design overall especially with no bowser
This is really off topic but what do u guys think about the walt disney frozen conspiracy?
i doubt anyone in the bf2042 channel cares tbh
Why bots donāt give ammo crates when I request them ??????!?! Why??? When I run out of ammo for recoiless m5 launcher I canāt use it anymore until I die. Itā s stupid that these AIs donāt give you support
how do u know theyre bots? sounds like most battlefield players tbh
Beacause i played single player mode
right, yeah that was a joke
cant enter lobby .... Error = "Unable to load persistence data"
Bots just accurately representing human support behavior
enable crossplay
Could just be desynced spectator cam
Haven't really ran into as many cheaters as I expected I would in a battlefield game
I've ran into maybe 2-3 obvious cheaters, and no more than 10 people I'd call sus
well that just means you're decent at the game :)
If you were bad-- sorry, I mean the greatest battlefield player of all timeā¢ļø then everyone who kills you is cheating xd
Previous BF games had a lot of cheaters in waves
@cedar sandal based nameš
Thanks uhhh you too?
š“š“
Never had any horse but you do you
It's good you should try it
haha gonna pass on that but thanks
unless you're in the US where as far as I know it's illegal for some reason?
BF1 and BFV is full of CHEATERS in ASIA 
Quite a few in US servers too, depending on when things are on sale
BF2042 it's much more rare. I mostly play HZ only so it'd be really obvious when a squad I'm facing hascheaters
you know your lobby is fugged when chinese name pronounce guy comes in
my pc cant run this game properly so i never bought it tried it with ea play and cant even get stable 30 fps š„²
How's bf2042 now
I had a chinese name pronounce guy who prefired my head 90 degree behind a wall while I was stopping to chat a bit
Lmfao
nope no spotting alert was given
You don't get alerted if you're spotted via motion sensor or soflam
I've done a lot of things I can only imagine is sus for the other player though. Play enough and you'll get into situations where you randomly snipe and get a headshot on a guy in a moving bolte doing a jump
Or like 500+ meter headshots with a recoilless
I just think to myself "wow that guy definitely thinks I'm sus"
Dead game 
it's convenient that the m5 has a nice reticle for accurate hit

Yeah I've gotten two 700m kills back to back
And the rocket launcher even tells you the predicted flight time at the range
Yāall recon the game is dead?
damn this chat is dead, when bf2042 was just coming out it would be non stop chatting
Vehicles are death traps in HZ against a good squad.
if the game arent a mess it wouldnt be dead
yeah dice really messed up
When I hear LATVs, I just spam my armor nades into the air. Usually free kills
ikr
Yeah that's why I only play HZ with people in discord
Pretty funny going up against squads without voice you just roll over them
I canāt believe people actually play hazard zone
Why? The whole game is designed around it from the specialists to the maps.
I mean I like it, I like how we can use whatever gun, and the movement is good in my opinion, it just lacks some core battlefield things
Like if you try to play Rush, CQ, or Breakthrough in 2042 maps it's obvious the maps aren't designed for that.
They're perfect for HZ.
no one plays hazard zone because itās boring
Well, enough people play Hazard Zone that I've been getting quick games today
Within 5-10 seconds of queueing up I get a game, and I played 15 tonight.
they just needa make it free and make a battle royal already
I'd be okay with that as long as they implement the anti-cheater rebuy measures that Warzone has
would get cannibalized by Apex, plus BR sucks lolmao
So cheaters can't just create another account and be back in the game in 5 seconds
I don't like the looting weapons aspect of BR which is why HZ appeals to me
Brās can be really fun, and if itās free people will play it
I like squad vs squad combat and without legacy game modes like Squad Rush, I'm glad they have HZ
run around aimlessly for 30 minutes spending most of it looting only to get ambushed and killed and sent back to the lobby menu? no thanx lol
they needa add voice chat as well, like whoās the guy in charge at dice, needs to be fired tbh
^ That's why HZ is better. No looting just shooting.
I prefer my dopamine levels be saturated at all times, that's why I like modes where you respawn 
I wouldn't mind shorter prep time, maybe they should implement loadouts for people to buy. I always buy the same shit anyway.
You can respawn in HZ. Just tell your team to redeploy you lol.
literally if dice hired anyone that has played bf2042 for 100hrs or more to make changes the game would be perfect rn lol
too slow, needs to be faster
Well theres always TDM
teamwork in bf2042 ?

TDM instant respawn nose-hair canals 128 players 
teammates will only revive you if the mission to unlock this cool skin require them to
teamwork in any battlefield game?
(spoiler, it was always this bad)
You know after all these hours i agree with the ending voicelines. not the fact theyre cringe but there is 100% faster way to get out of end game screen. they should make it so all 4 of your squad walks up like in the start of the match. not everyone is a no life like me and have limited time to play games. and that 30 seconds adds up.
Plenty of teamwork in Hazard Zone. I think the bad experience many people have around bad teammates are mostly in All out War
bro tbh thereās never been teamwork in battlefield thatās just an idiotic lie, unlesssss youāre playing with friends
Like usually when I call for ammo, I get ammo
don't be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes
I told you to keep up 
I wish there was a way you can close your squad and queue with a 2-man or 3-man in HZ though. Sometimes you just get assholes
even in bf4, bf3, bf1, bfv when you join a random squad how often were you guys actually working as a team, even with voice chat
There wasn't voice chat in BF3
Any ways to farm levels quickly ?

Hazard Zone is by far the highest XP per minute I've played.
I'd like a squad menu in AOW, like previous titles. would make getting a group of 5 or more friends into the same server far easier. and locking out potentially unwanted vehicle spawns, and would generally just be a good feature to have. 
Yeah that'd be nice. They should also add a lock vehicle function.
tbh I played bf3 when I was like in middle school
Lock vehicle should make it so no one outside your squad can enter if you're in the driver seat
you child, I was in high school 
lol now iām in college
Thanks DICE I can't connect to server on 2042
I played BF1942 in college lolololol
damn tfš
so are you in your 50s now?
No way
when do you guys think they fix C4 drones tanks have been unplayable
oh lol
Not before I get my C4 tier 1 badge I hope
you mean C5?
I wish they didnāt coming from a guy who likes to play infantry, but I understand why they need to be taken out, cause even when I played a tank I was blown up with c5 and I wasnāt even camping lol
plz stop abusing it lmao
if you havent noticed the drones kinda just teleport around so they are impossible to kill
Nah, I rarely play conquest now
the damn things are also invisible
Soflam
yeah it stinky or smthing
itās fair, but if they take out c5 drones they needa make it to where vehicles no longer have unlimited ammo like bfv
doubt they do that, doubt they care honestly
so then we donāt have to worry about weirdos chilling at the outskirts
hell no its called git gud