battlefield-2042

[cosmic brook]

I think the AI needs to be made harder to snipe.

[signal basin]

Sounds like karma.

[cosmic brook]

I can hardly practice my sniping with stationary targets.

[arctic grove]

That's what I said 🤣

[cyan drift]

they need to try emulating valves AI or something... bots with aimbot moving around like blueberries isnt a fun sight

[orchid root]

Why does bfv plays way smoother tho

[arctic grove]

Damn work is boring tonight. I need to bring my gaming pc to the office

[cosmic brook]

It's great for farming kills to level up your guns though.

[drifting willow]

Older hardware. Optimized software?

[prisma anvil]

You don't ignore them... But you can work through them... And that's one thing I will give dice .. they do manage to fix them pretty quick... But still game score needs to factor that in now, they shouldn't be in there in the first place... If the game gets better with time, the score of the game should follow a similar system

[arctic grove]

@orchid root BfV has had more updates

[cyan drift]

my issue is, is that they cant be fixed if dice has yet to even address them lmao

[nova mirage]

yeah i feel like that ones pretty obvious

[cosmic brook]

Mackay is my favorite operator now.

[orchid root]

I use angel the most

[cosmic brook]

Except he needs a Gillie suit.

[tame cobalt]

2042's ai is impressive in some scenarios, disappointing in others

[cyan drift]

you mean this giraffe?

[arctic grove]

🤣

[nova mirage]

If i remember correctly a dice dev has responded to a compiled list of all the bugs, its also because they just waiting for the next update to send it out all in one

[arctic grove]

Angel is the best. He's basically every class in one player

[cosmic brook]

I only use Angel for his armor refill ngl.

[arctic grove]

When they first intoruced him some of the influancers said he was a weak specialist. I knew he was going to be the best

[tame cobalt]

The bots seem to have more braincells than real players in regards to PTFOing in conquest and using vehicles as a team

[arctic grove]

You basically don't need any squad members

[cyan drift]

Those influencers are morons... they play exactly like blueberries, just run around lone wolfing trying to "snipe" all match long

[arctic grove]

They honestly should remove angels load out crate

[still vault]

He is the most generic, most allround, but he doesn't include all the more specialized specialists.

[orchid root]

I barley use it unless I need cover

[tame cobalt]

Make it so you can change a single item in your loadout. That's it

[cosmic brook]

Angel is only as good as two players. Anything Angel can do two or more players can do better.

[arctic grove]

The load out crate makes switching to lockons a little too OP

[cyan drift]

make it so sundance falls like a rock after 10s in her wingsuit

[tame cobalt]

Fuck no

[prisma anvil]

Broken: the crossplay system, the friends system, the mouse and controller input, pc perf issues, aim assist for controllers, squad system, the ui( slated to be upgraded in the next patch with more customisation options), audio in general, poor maps
Missing: in-game lore about the world, faction definition, stats( rumored to be in the works) proper scoreboard( same), server browser, persistent lobbies with a rotation, platoons, dogtags, melee weapon variety

[cyan drift]

or make it so heavy projectiles can penetrate dozers captain america shield

[tame cobalt]

No

[cosmic brook]

You're saying make the futuristic wingsuit shittier than irl wingsuits?

[cyan drift]

yes

[tame cobalt]

Make it so dozer can throw his shield and have it come back automatically

[cosmic brook]

Do you just want all the operators nerfed to validate you playing only Angel?

[arctic grove]

Lol

[tame cobalt]

Also let the shield reflect tank shells.

[cyan drift]

make it so wind knocks sundance out of the map and she dies like shes supposed to

[arctic grove]

Boomerang Shield like the guys from Australia

[cyan drift]

it already does, bounces them right back at you sometimes

[tame cobalt]

Make it so sundance can give themself a speed boost by farting

[cosmic brook]

Sounds like you have a personal problem with Sundance.

[arctic grove]

They should remove Sundance grenades

[arctic grove]

Nah

[tame cobalt]

Def not

[prisma anvil]

[cyan drift]

they should give any mouth breather the ability to constantly fly behind enemy lines

[arctic grove]

Hell yeah they should

[tame cobalt]

Stay salty

[arctic grove]

It's cheese low skill spam. The only special ability should be fly

[tame cobalt]

Sundance grenades aren't OP

[arctic grove]

I'm not salty I love taking that chicks head off

[tame cobalt]

Then cope

[arctic grove]

I know they aren't Op she can't do anything by herself

[cosmic brook]

Just yesterday people where complaining Sundances grenades need to be buffed. I swear they'll complain about anything here.

[cyan drift]

peeling her muffin cap back blue with the K30 vibes

[nova mirage]

god i hate sundances AA nades, they always seem to lock on air vehicles 600 meters away and miss the very obvious tank that is literally right in front of me

[tame cobalt]

Rip

[cyan drift]

"AA" maybe, i dont play her so maybe im missing something

[arctic grove]

Fax and it's so annoying

[tame cobalt]

Sundance is poggins

[nova mirage]

it stands for Anti armour not anti air

[cyan drift]

ah

[cosmic brook]

God I hate not being able to use the AA rocket launcher on tanks.

[nova mirage]

yeah im stupid but not an idiot

[cyan drift]

tbh her nades shouldnt do anything to heavy vehicles

[tame cobalt]

If i feel like I'm not having enough fun in conquest i just switch to sundance. Fun mode activated

[arctic grove]

Her skills are trash for people that aren't good at gun play

[nova mirage]

meh i never know what specialist to pick

[cosmic brook]

Mackay is fun.

[arctic grove]

I just go with angel for amor and ammo with a spawn Beacon

[nova mirage]

sometimes i wanna play angell others i just want to go boris

[patent path]

Boris's turret is best boi

[tame cobalt]

And you think it's a bad thing that there are options for people aren't good at gunplay? GTFO

[arctic grove]

I can't play boris his character makes no sense to me

[nova mirage]

Sundance is pretty fun aside from her weird ass AA nades that never lock on properly

[cyan drift]

if you want team play and usefullness then 80% of the "specialist" are dog water

[tame cobalt]

Then play someone else. Also no one asked

[arctic grove]

If they removed all specialist and just kept angel the game would play great

[still vault]

Turret helps pew pew and gives you über spots, what needs to make sense?

[cyan drift]

boris is doo doo anyways dont feel bad

he doesnt even have a turret, its a beeper

[patent path]

[nova mirage]

boris is funny but sundance is funnier

[arctic grove]

@still vault it's mostly his back story and the look of his character model

[tame cobalt]

They should remove sundance and give everyone wingsuit

[arctic grove]

His character model sticks out you can always tell he looks like he runs with a limp he has a different type of run than other players his skin tone also sticks out in rooms

[cyan drift]

how do you know theres an enemy boris in the room you entered? You start to hear a bunch of beeps

[cosmic brook]

Make Sundances grenades more powerful and give everyone wingsuit.

[arctic grove]

Basically he is easy to spot

[tame cobalt]

Keep sundance as they are and buff parachute

[arctic grove]

They should buff the Indian specialist

[nova mirage]

make sundance nades lock onto the damn tank infront of me rather than the fucking chopper literally almost half a kilometer away

[prisma anvil]

We're used to being ignored

[cyan drift]

and his turret will never hit you if you just maintain a light jog

[arctic grove]

[tame cobalt]

Make falck 18 years old and a supermodel

[cosmic brook]

Rao is awesome though. You just need to get good.

[cyan drift]

make her pleasant to look at, same with potato face paik

[nova mirage]

never really put any significant hours in rao so cant say muchg

[arctic grove]

Nah he's not, he's hacking takes 10 minutes

[tame cobalt]

He's pretty good for anti-vehicle. I see some people use him in TDM though

[arctic grove]

Rao looks frail and skinny

[cosmic brook]

No it doesn't. You're just bad.

[cyan drift]

i dont even see how you can argue that rao is good

[arctic grove]

It's also a little weird they would pick an Indian as a IT specialist

[cosmic brook]

That's what I use him for. He's OP as fuck for soloing tanks.

[arctic grove]

Bruh

[cyan drift]

also weird that youd give your only asian in the game the chinkiest voice and lines

[tame cobalt]

Based

[cosmic brook]

Fire first rocket, hack them, fire second rocket, additional rockets may vary.

[tame cobalt]

His infantry hack takes too long tho

[prisma anvil]

Its already easy soloing tanks, I use rao to fuck with helis

[cosmic brook]

I use Angel to fuck with Helis.

[arctic grove]

He may be good, but he's the worst specialist for sure

[cyan drift]

very easy when tanks cant fight back, at all LMAO

[prisma anvil]

Well not the apache that sits at the edge of the skybox, can't hurt that one tho

[drifting willow]

Theres a good point i havent seen made yet.... probably has been though.

[cosmic brook]

It's okay, can't hurt us either.

[prisma anvil]

It has

[arctic grove]

All these specialist wouldn't be as bad if we could just cover their faces from the start and remove the voice lines

[nova mirage]

its called anti armor so at least actually work against armour :(

[prisma anvil]

It can...

[tame cobalt]

Kek

[cosmic brook]

I mean, if the pilot is absolute God and crack shot.

[nova mirage]

God everytime some mackay ends up in the end of match screen i just go into an rage i hate his voicelines so much

[tame cobalt]

Make sundance anti armor target infantry that have armor instead of tanks

[arctic grove]

They were pretty blatantly generalizing people by culture and race in this game

[cosmic brook]

I love making people rage. That makes me want to play Mackay even more.

[nova mirage]

LETS GOO

[tame cobalt]

Are you trying to suggest what they did with the diverse cast is a bad thing?

[nova mirage]

oh boy

[arctic grove]

@tame cobalt no

[cosmic brook]

I mean, let's be honest. Russia would never have an ethnically diverse military.

[tame cobalt]

They don't. These are mercanaries.

[arctic grove]

@cosmic brook you mean no Afro-Russian?

[cosmic brook]

Jewfro Russians maybe.

[prisma anvil]

Welcome to 2042, it's a glorified proxy war with nothing at stake...

[arctic grove]

No pants verse no pants for the win

[nova mirage]

I hope for the next map it actually looks like the worlds in ruin

[solemn spire]

wow this game really died off huh hardly anyone playing

[cosmic brook]

Every triple a fps multiplayer.

[lime crystal]

[prisma anvil]

That's false

[tame cobalt]

Well it won't. You'll see the aftereffects of a landslide hitting a research facility though. But it's not an area where there has been a war before the match starts

[arctic grove]

False

[tame cobalt]

And we may get an earthquake event on this map

[prisma anvil]

reduce screen shake slider to 0

[nova mirage]

man i remember they advertised earthquakes and tsunamis not just tornados

[arctic grove]

No thanks the 89 earthquake was enough for me

[tame cobalt]

Then your memory sucks. Sorry to hear

[nova mirage]

👍 cool I've been pranked then lmao

[naive quiver]

😂😂 nice name m8 @arctic grove

[cosmic brook]

Every battlefield, battlefront, and call of duty.

[silk surge]

I went through the comment section of a Jackfrags video, and it's filled with people calling him a 'shill' for saying something good about 2042. It's just sad that it has come to this.

[nova mirage]

well good on jack for actually liking a game damn

[tame cobalt]

Not sure if it came directly from EA people, but people have said there will be more events like that coming in the seasonal updates.

[nova mirage]

Oh cool

[silk surge]

The funny thing is, he has been critical of the game. The difference between him and other Battlefield youtubers is that he hasn't been constantly shitting on it.

[tame cobalt]

Earthquake, tsunami, meteor storm, volcano,

[arctic grove]

There feels like a lot of the community form other games got into 2042 and trash it a lot for not being the same as other games they play outside of the battlefield universe

[lime crystal]

Remove all the non sense weather events from a multiplayer game, keep that for rhe singleplayer

[nova mirage]

no

[tame cobalt]

No

[lime crystal]

[arctic grove]

If I'm not wrong, call of duty before 2013, battlefront 1 and two, (the old ones) were good. Can't say about bf though, as I'm a recent fan for two years straight.

[cosmic brook]

That isn't the discussion.

[tame cobalt]

Lol

[arctic grove]

I'll pay you to talk good about 2042, as after all, I am EA itself

[cosmic brook]

There's never anything at stake in any multiplayer fps.

Besides your kdr.

[arctic grove]

It's high stakes high rewards

[tame cobalt]

The W is at stake, damnit!

[prisma anvil]

That's why I loved bf1 operations, it gave you clear instructions, the map view showing the direction of the push, the objective cities, and victory or defeat having real life or atleast speculative consequences, winning and loosing felt like it mattered more..

[arctic grove]

Load up your favorite non-binary specialist and get to the war no pants

[nova mirage]

haha no pants

[prisma anvil]

Again... Nothing is at stake, nothing tangible atleast... But the illusion of choice, and consequences... That's what would've elevated it more imo

[cosmic brook]

It was an illusion in those games as well. You just fell for it in those games.

[prisma anvil]

Exactly, cuz the game tried to pull you in, here it doesn't do that

[tame cobalt]

➡️ 🐐

[arctic grove]

Bf1 was missing a lot of options from previous titles

[prisma anvil]

I will admit that... It was streamlined and well, for the lack of a better term "casual-ified" a lot

[tame cobalt]

Good

[arctic grove]

Aka-art once made a video talking about the community form different titles. How during bf1 lifespan there is basically a new generations of players that see bf as what bf1 is while others see it as bf4 or 3. Now we have bf1 and 5 generation and soon to be 2042 who will only want specialist

[tame cobalt]

Good

[arctic grove]

Because heros aren't In enough games right?

[tame cobalt]

Yes

Can't wait to see what they'll do with the next game, hopefully it's gonna be just as fun as 2042 and also piss off the shitty "community" just as much!

[cosmic brook]

I don't get why cosmetics make people so butthurt.

I suppose this is why I also don't understand racism.

[prisma anvil]

I mean... There's a lot more nuances than that... You've got people like me as well, who came in at the world war era, but heard a lot about the modern era to want to experience that too... Bf1 is the best for me, but I can also see why bf4 dominates... Fucking shame that innit?... We come in hoping to experience what you oldies were so in love with and we get this...

[tame cobalt]

Good

[arctic grove]

You must be lonely

[tame cobalt]

Oh no the new game made for a different market is a new game made for a different market!

[cosmic brook]

BF3 is probably my all time favorite.

[arctic grove]

You got the wrong perception of what I think

[trim surge]

they don't unless they are cringe and funky

[arctic grove]

You should always market to a new market but never do your loyal fans dirty

[tame cobalt]

2042 is exactly what the bf4 peeps asked for. BF4 but for today's market

[arctic grove]

I think your full of it, but who am I to convince you different

[drifting willow]

Expansive battles. Larger than life. Leave one fight to join another with out ever leaving the server... im not a traditional battlefield player so im curious what else MADE it unique

Vehicles were unique back in the day it seemed too

[trim surge]

i was going to respond then i saw your nickname

[arctic grove]

4 more hours till I'm off work, nothing like being paid while discording

[tame cobalt]

What else made it unique: nostalgia

[prisma anvil]

That's the thing, it wasn't a complicated formula, big battles with 2-4 aspects of combat which isn't arcadey, but also not full milsim-y, it's the fact that battlefield didn't need to change.... For the last 2 entries, they've kinda changed a lot of things.. would've made sense to basically take all of that, so 3-4-1-5, and combine it's best elements into 1 perfect beast first...the reason why everyone says cod is the same because it's allure is in its simplicity, combine with the fact that it's an annual release with very few things changing causes cod fans to say that... think of this, between 3-V how many cod's have we had?

[tame cobalt]

100% arcadey

[drifting willow]

100% arcadey means NO 1 shot headshots

[trim surge]

playable realism

[tame cobalt]

Time to play conquest large on orbital

[arctic grove]

I'll be here getting paid

[cosmic brook]

Halo's considered arcadey?

[arctic grove]

Yes lol

[trim surge]

it's a science fiction game

[drifting willow]

Im having troubles seeing a path from bad company 2 to battlefield 5 without losing fans along the way

Or 3 to 5 for that matter

[arctic grove]

The jump from 4 to 1 was pretty bad

[drifting willow]

It wasnt bad but it wasnt for me

[trim surge]

i didn't like the idea of 1 being a ww1 game but it still felt like a bf game

[cosmic brook]

I mean, that was the golden era of battlefield.

[drifting willow]

I regret not playing 1 knowing how it ended up coming together nicely

[arctic grove]

I know 1 is a great game

[prisma anvil]

They have lost fans... That's why I limited the choices from 3-V, there were separate elementa from each game that the playerbase agreed was perfected( or atleast damn near) in each entry... I'm not saying that game would please everybody, or that it'd cause everyone from 3-V players to come back... But it would've been a damn sight better than this

[trim surge]

you like only modern shooters we get it

[drifting willow]

Im agreeing with you as a whole i just have little questions for my own understanding

[cosmic brook]

The fanbase has had a large impact in ruining the franchise.

[arctic grove]

Yes I agree

It was split up to much between history field and people that wanted the milisim-ish, current setting shooter

Battlefield 1 sold a massive amounts of copies it was very successful.

[drifting willow]

There needs to be a #tactical room or something so that people know where to go to talk serious teamplay and to try and make it easier to put a team together

[arctic grove]

There is no social, squad, team support in the current game

[prisma anvil]

Team together?

[drifting willow]

As in. If i want to try and play the game seriously with no trolls. I cant just click a button and join in a game where people play objective

[prisma anvil]

So you mean like a ranked thing?

It hard to make something like that work in bf

[drifting willow]

I just imagine there is a core base of players somewhere that are open to newbies and try to play the game in a progressiive way

Nah not ranked for sure. Just a server known for teamplay

[arctic grove]

@drifting willow what do you play on pc or console

[drifting willow]

Ps5.

[prisma anvil]

I mean, there are clans for that... I cant say a team.. but you could probably get like 6-8 guys so around 2 sqauds playing and communicating together

[arctic grove]

You can join us when we play if you want to add me

But my schedule is weird I work most nights and sleep all day

[prisma anvil]

Even if the in-game system is dead.. old clans from 3-V days, or even before that exist.. they have their discords, you can search them up

[grave sluice]

What about k&m support on ps5 for bf42?

[prisma anvil]

They offer a lot of playstyles, all the way from causal to full on milsim

[arctic grove]

A lot of the old clans moved games because they weren't being supported

[prisma anvil]

True, but there still should be a few

[arctic grove]

There are a few MOD, TOS etc

[prisma anvil]

That's sony, not ea dice

[prisma anvil]

I think smaller ones like SNS and FOAM still exist

[drifting willow]

I use to be able to find clans no problem but i stepped away from gaming for the 5 years or so and dont really understand how to go about finding open clans like i did before

[prisma anvil]

Or is SNS a big one?.. I don't remember... Don't even know if they're operational now

[arctic grove]

I have a chat with a few people that constantly play from all the previous titles

It's kinda funny I've actually met people in real life I've met through bf3 and bf4 and bfV

[drifting willow]

Thats what im talking about towntax!

[arctic grove]

It's rare but a few games I've made some real life friends 😏

[drifting willow]

I used to but got sucked into a career for a bit and lost touch with it all

[prisma anvil]

I mean... The current bunch of guys I run with I met during early bf1... They're absolute windowlickers But I like them all for that fact

[reef kestrel]

[drifting willow]

Ya. Time seems to flatten out casual differences

[surreal crystal]

Still going on i see

[cosmic brook]

Okay. I was hesitant to try SVK after getting so chummy with the DM7. But I gotta admit, this thing slaps.

[drifting willow]

SVK OP

[tame cobalt]

Orbital conquest large tho 😍

[prisma anvil]

Svk good

[surreal crystal]

Svk is pretty much two shot kill

[surreal crystal]

Orbital is a good map actually it got lot of hate during open beta lol

[dusky blade]

We didn’t know it would be one of the best

[surreal crystal]

True that

[tame cobalt]

Orbital got shat on before people gave it a chance. It's a very well designed map

[dusky blade]

Bruh it’s terribly designed, but the best in the game in comparison

[surreal crystal]

[arctic grove]

We need a map that's more indoors cqc like operation locker

[cosmic brook]

It's a great mid-range gun.

[surreal crystal]

💯 hope the new map is more like that

[cosmic brook]

150-250 meters is mid-range right?

[arctic grove]

Tired of these cqc maps that are set outside mostly making it not feel cqc

[dusky blade]

We have a leaked image of it, guess what it’s like

[arctic grove]

@dusky blade a field?

[prisma anvil]

Yeah, I'd stretch that to 300m

[surreal crystal]

Is it ? I haven’t seen it lol

[dusky blade]

It’s more open than any other map

[surreal crystal]

Wtf nooo

[prisma anvil]

To be fair, it's a concept art, not any actual image, that too a very old and crude one

[arctic grove]

They haven't been giving us indoor cqc maps for a long time

[dusky blade]

BF1 had lots of CQC places

[cosmic brook]

Is the flashlight actually useful?

[arctic grove]

I was playing bf4 than

[dusky blade]

No

[arctic grove]

Addicted to helis and jets? Top tier pilot? Leaderboard hunter? Dm me for more info to join the best air community in battlefield.

[prisma anvil]

Fdv, Amiens, Argonne, middle of suez, paschendale

[arctic grove]

The one cqc bf1 map I remember is the forest one and the setting made it not feel cqc to me

The setting outside makes it feel more open than it is.

[dusky blade]

Every single BF1 map has close quarter areas

[arctic grove]

Most maps do

[dusky blade]

Bruh but it wasn’t open

[prisma anvil]

Even Sinai has the B and C points

[arctic grove]

I don't know what to tell you the map didn't feel like a good cqc to me

[dusky blade]

It was one of the best maps

[arctic grove]

bf1 =#other-games
This is #battlefield-2042

[dusky blade]

I loved it personally

Ok

[prisma anvil]

Argonne isn't a small map per se, it's a mid size map, but it had a lot of trenches, cover, chokepoints and topographical differences that you could use to force quick and close gunfights...

[arctic grove]

Pearl market, operation locker, metro, outbreak, flood zone, propaganda, sunken dragon, zavod all great cqc maps

[dusky blade]

I don’t recall many trenches, more stuff like terrain deformation, fallen trees, stuff like that

[arctic grove]

Lumphini gardens was amazing

I can't relate Argonne to any of these maps

[dusky blade]

Why not

[prisma anvil]

Front of D, and A, D has the most trenches infront of it... But yeah, it didnt have too much of that

[arctic grove]

Iunno think it was the game in general at the time I wanted it to go awya

[dusky blade]

Ohhh yeah there was one area with trenches, it was handy for when you’re losing terribly and need a place to hold out lol

BF1 man, a masterpiece

[arctic grove]

@dusky blade did you start playing the battlefield games with bf1?

[dusky blade]

No

But it is my favourite

[arctic grove]

Damn it's not common for me to run into someone that played previous games and think bf1 was the best.. Like I said the game looks nice.

[dusky blade]

Least favourite would be BF3 or BF4

Maybe 1943 but it doesn’t really count

It’s not really a main line game

[cerulean folio]

this game really isn’t worth the price is it

[arctic grove]

Bf3 was cool I remember when bf4 was new people were pissed about the change in spotting. The spotting as continues to get worse each game

[dusky blade]

if you were there back in the day you’ll remember how much BF3 damaged the franchise.

It was a DISASTER

[arctic grove]

No one wanted the 3d spotting or whatever it was in bf4 everyone thought it was easy mode and hated it

[dusky blade]

Better than 2042 at least. You need to get the tiny dot directly on the target, and it tags their position for 3 seconds

[icy vine]

always packet loss.........

[fierce gull]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/venturebeat.com/2011/10/26/battlefield-3-suffers-severe-launch-issues-players-outraged/amp/

[tame cobalt]

Sundance grenade kills are v hard to get in conquest

Never gonna get that t1, but i want that tier 4

[arctic grove]

Just keep spamming

[tame cobalt]

Conquest large is sickkkk on the good maps

[fierce gull]

Grind t1 skins on breakthrough

[tame cobalt]

Can't

[fierce gull]

People pile a lot in maps like breakaway first stage

[tame cobalt]

Breakthrough has been dead since day 1 in my region

[fierce gull]

Oh rip

[violet sluice]

It'll probably stay dead at this rate

[fierce gull]

It's not dead for me

[violet sluice]

Are you in his region?

[still vault]

Been playing quite a bit 128 player Breakthrough the last couple of days. It's pretty cool and quite different than conquest.

[tame cobalt]

Breakthrough can come alive in my region if they add a server browser

[fierce gull]

Idk his region

[arctic grove]

Conquest definitely feels more casual

[violet sluice]

We were talking about his region not yours.

[fierce gull]

Ratio + based

[still vault]

What is the logic around that? How would the server browser help?

[rocky cedar]

When is the next patch due?

[violet sluice]

Next year

[cosmic brook]

I just learned the pistol has attachments.

[fierce gull]

[rocky cedar]

January? Summer?

[fierce gull]

January but not confirmed it's my guess

[tame cobalt]

If people see the breakthrough game in the server browser they'd join it. With the current matchmaking, everyone has given up on the mode so there's no chance people will fill a server

[violet sluice]

Most likely the end of January, but will you still care at that point?

[fierce gull]

I don't think it will be end of January lol

[arctic grove]

Anyone that doesn't agree with a server browser is just flat out satanic

[still vault]

People usually sort their server browser searches. If they usually don't find anything they will stop searching and the result will be the same.

[violet sluice]

Imagine defending the lack of a server browser.

[prisma anvil]

Cool, can still join nearby regions..

[rocky cedar]

I don't see why not. Sure, its not what I wanted but its not like there are lots and lots of games out there offering the same kind experience.

[arctic grove]

5th friend joins chat. What sever you guys on? Ummmm

[still vault]

There's a difference between defending the lack of a serverbrowser and disagreeing with what advantages a serverbrowser actually bring.

[violet sluice]

Too bad they can't join your squad because the squad sizes are tiny.

[tame cobalt]

Idk what to tell you, server browsers are extremely beneficial for less popular modes in low population regions, i know just by comparing my experience with bf1 and 2042.

[cosmic brook]

The biggest issue I have so far is the lack of explanation between weapon attachments. Like, I doubt the average Joe is gonna know the difference between bcg and a rattlesnake.

[arctic grove]

@violet sluice it's weird people join chat to play realizes they can't play with us and leave lol

[cosmic brook]

Heck, I only know from a completely different gaming franchise.

[fierce gull]

Someone is being rude to me in game chat

[rocky cedar]

Report to the internets!

[cosmic brook]

Can't be 2042, there is no in game chat.

[prisma anvil]

Lel

[fierce gull]

I told my team to use soflam so I could target tanks with my jet in game chat but someone said they would blow up my jet I want him banned

[violet sluice]

Sever browsers offer players the opportunity to find what they want to play, and fast. Matchmaking has always been hated by pretty much every fps player, and that will never change. Tell me what benefit not providing a server browser does other than hiding the amount of players playing the game.

[cosmic brook]

Can you request orders aggressively?

[arctic grove]

We are giving you guys crossplay now so you can play with all your friends.

[prisma anvil]

You must now make it your goal to piss that person off even more..

[fierce gull]

Time to swear but get censored

[rocky cedar]

You mean beyond being a spammy idjit? 🙂

[arctic grove]

But it can only be 4 friends and if your not on the same platform you can talk

[cosmic brook]

Yee

[cosmic brook]

Most people prefer Discord anyway.

[rocky cedar]

Nah, I've pretty much given up on playing the objective with randoms. My squad is spread to the four corners of the map always

[violet sluice]

#next-gen

[arctic grove]

@cosmic brook yeah old Gen console players love discord

[fierce gull]

Use Skype

[arctic grove]

@violet sluice I have next Gen

[violet sluice]

#woosh

[cosmic brook]

Lol. Multiplayer is a lot of fun when you're in VC with your squad.

[arctic grove]

Hey actually I haven't tried yet. Does next Gen Xbox and ps5 allow you to talk in game chat than?

[hazy abyss]

just checking ...K30 when firing is not very manoeuvrable ? got a new logitech 502 hero and I can ADS ok, nut when firing ...left and right seems to drastically drop DPS

[cosmic brook]

?

[prisma anvil]

No

[still vault]

Some of the advantages of not having a serverbrowser: more even teams, less leavers, quicker filling servers, less people in queues, quicker joining experience.
Since you didn't ask for disadvantages I wont list some of those.

[rocky cedar]

Do consoles support Discord? If not, there's the app for phones. Problem solved. Sure, its not ideal, but its all according to DICE's masterplan.

[prisma anvil]

I mean, there's text chat, but not voice chat... If you get my drift @arctic grove

[arctic grove]

People see captain's hardcore with 3 people in Qué and still join because they know it's a good server

[hidden flax]

server browser still so much better

[arctic grove]

The Qué is no advantage

[hidden flax]

only that you could vote for the map u want to play

[prisma anvil]

And how do I hear my m8's on phone while listening to game audio?... Earbuds in the phone, put that in my ears and then put the headphones of my controller over my ears?...

[drifting willow]

Its all i play for now. Find it better for progression but im probably wrong

[cosmic brook]

Levelling up my guns against bots feels like cheating. But I'd also rather just focus on objective in multiplayer, not farming kills.

[rocky cedar]

Yesterday had the ghosting bug affecting a team mate: https://youtu.be/5-L81kLuFZk He was following me and rezzed after I went to pick on his ghost's nose and getting shot.

[hidden flax]

and if you think about that you have to leave after every game in order to queue again, servers were you would stay on the server wouldn`t be a disadvantage either in terms of queue time

[arctic grove]

Rereading those advantages and they kinda don't hold water

[prisma anvil]

So how does matchmaking make more even teams over server browser that is?... And how does it ensure lesser leavers?.

[arctic grove]

, @prisma anvil they are match making by skill base

[rocky cedar]

Yeah, I know where you're coming from and there really isn't a valid excuse to omit chats. Playing with Nintendo Switch we usually have Discord open and phones on speaker. Not wearing headphones. It is a damned bother, but at least we get to play together 😐

[arctic grove]

Basically dice is telling us we will have more fun if they pick rather than us

[violet sluice]

How does any of those things equate to the lack of a server browser? Also keep in mind in 2042 you can't switch your team anyways so that point is moot. Why do more people leave servers in your mind with a server browser?

[prisma anvil]

I mean have we confirmed it somehow? Cuz if not I'm having a hard time believing that... How would you balance infantry against vehicle guys?... What about spm through kills vs other actions?..

[violet sluice]

This game feels like Apple designed it.

[arctic grove]

@prisma anvil based off player stats we can't see because it's a Legacy feature just like the server browser

[prisma anvil]

Damn..... I don't relate to that but I do feel bad, that's some serious loops you gotta go through, jesus

[arctic grove]

You can have a button to auto join players into the skill base matches and still have a browser

[violet sluice]

You can also have auto balancng

[rocky cedar]

On PC you can switch your team in-game. But, it requires that your social party teammates don't have their teams full. When you leave your current team there is a HIGH CHANCE you'll find them. This being DICE, this doesn't work 100%.

[arctic grove]

@violet sluice auto balancing by squad each map on the same server

[violet sluice]

Like every fps game does

[violet sluice]

That's not switching teams, that's switching squads.

[rocky cedar]

Oh, crap. Yeah. Soz

[prisma anvil]

Yeah but you gotta have a stat(s) that serves as the basis for the balancing right?... How do you calculate that?.. not being argumentative.. just asking, could it be based off wins-losses?...

[violet sluice]

At this point you are trying to justify a poor decision.

[arctic grove]

You can't tell me not allowing your 5th friend to join your match is better than getting him into his own match by himself better

@prisma anvil true

[still vault]

• @violet sluice Quick Join instead of a server browser prevents more than 4 people stacking on one server. Also, the server can behind the scenes balance the teams so they are even (don't actually know if 2042 does this but it is an advantage of it nonetheless) - More even teams make people less likely to leave.

Again, there are ofc. also a bunch of disadvantages of not having a serverbrowser, I actually like serverbrowsers, this is just about gamedesign.

[slim quiver]

team stacking was one of the most annoying things in the old BF games lol

[arctic grove]

It's a casual game

[slim quiver]

it is a casual game

[arctic grove]

And there should be a balance after each round

Meaning if you had 2 squads of friends the other squad may be on the other team next match how is that stacking

[rocky cedar]

DICE's idea of balance is how you often lose of win games by 900 tickets

[slim quiver]

its good to prevent people like team stackers (who treat the game like a professional tournament) from pub stomping

[violet sluice]

Preventing stacking to you, preventing clan matches to me.

[arctic grove]

This make no sense previous titles switched squads around

[rocky cedar]

lose OR win, I meant

[slim quiver]

portal exists

[arctic grove]

Portal exists with out being able to switch teams

[violet sluice]

Portal is not the answer though.

[slim quiver]

why is portal not the answer

[slim quiver]

yeah but that just requires a minor change

[still vault]

Indeed. I just showed some of the advantages and as I said there are disadvantages too.

[violet sluice]

Portal is a tacked on game mode. The main game is AoW.

[arctic grove]

The advantages aren't enough for the change to be good

[wild oxide]

Did anyone know that you could put medic and ammo crate on casper's drone

[hidden flax]

as you said, you personally like serverbrowser and thats how the main part of the community feels like. So I ask myself why you are arguing against it and trying to defend incompetend dice for leaving out so many "legacy features" that were included in all the previous battlefield titles.

[hidden flax]

its not about game design, its about how you threat your community, and dice is doing a really bad job at that.

[slim quiver]

Clan battles is a side event that only a small portion of the community takes part in. The casual AOW mode is the main game. You can insert clan battles and your own custom rules into portal

[arctic grove]

I get the reason behind leaving it out. It was a bad choice though

[prisma anvil]

Yeah but you gotta remember, they killed off clans, squads are limited, and even still, you can technically circumvent that and get upto 8-9 people in a game , I've done it(it's just bloody obtuse).. not to mention the playercounts been doubled... Also, isn't the entire point of a bf game to play with friends, I know stacking was bad, but you know how you countered it?... By playing with friends... But yeah I see where you're coming from, we need data though, whether this actually made games more fair and balanced, but I will still maintain that SB is necessary as bf games wouldn't have survived without it outside of the us and eu

[arctic grove]

@slim quiver at this point your probably right since they got shunned away

[violet sluice]

You also can't earn mastery from portal. Clans won't want to play that.

[still vault]

That's a failure on your part. If you can't distinguish between an discussion where you weigh both the pros and cons of something and people "defending" something that is on you, not me.

[arctic grove]

I don't totally believe it was a small number of the community

[slim quiver]

clan battles in general was just very small even in the previous BF games. It wasnt the entire community. The older older BF games had more clan presence than the newer BF games

[rocky cedar]

This 100% The way DICE makes me and my friends jump hoops only prevents us from having a good time. We have around 7 active players and getting everyone together is starting to wear on us. And, we don't like to play the game with randoms. Thus, we don't play at all. Just according to DICE's plan!

[arctic grove]

@slim quiver it wasn't small. Do you have the numbers?

[slim quiver]

back in like the BF 2 and BF1942 days there was way more clan hosted servers and such than there were later on

[arctic grove]

@slim quiver there was clans up until bf1?

[slim quiver]

so are you saying the majority of the player base participated in clan wars

[radiant echo]

BF1 had some clans too

[slim quiver]

because if that was the case BF would have actually had a fairly large presence in esports

[arctic grove]

@slim quiver not clan wars but social clans

[radiant echo]

SIC

And BoB

[wild oxide]

Bf1942 clan was the entire class playing in computer lab.

[radiant echo]

and some more

[violet sluice]

Are you insane? Clan battles were huge in 1942, 2, 2142, 3, and 4. But 3specially in 1942z and 2. Clan battles are still huge in other games. The limitations placed on players in this game has all but effectively killed any sort of competitive scene.

[arctic grove]

Bf4 has a large clan community

[slim quiver]

social clans are not sanction scrimmaging between groups. Social clans are just basically the same thing milsims have done or day of defeat has done where someone hosts a server and you become part of that community

[prisma anvil]

Same for me, our group at the max has like 10 guys in it, it was such a pain, we only got 9 guys in into a game, and the 9th guy basically joined as the game was ending.. like at less than 50 tickets... It's such a pain

[arctic grove]

Bf1 even had a lot of clans

[radiant echo]

BF2 in internet Café

[slim quiver]

you could literally still have a social clan by adding options to switch teams on portal and having someone host their own clan server

[rocky cedar]

Yeah, it is such BS. But, when you get everyone together and can actually play together... it is SO MUCH fun. Fuck DICE.

[wild oxide]

I guess number of active clans is directly proportional to how successful the game is

[radiant echo]

I'd say that Portal could use RSP and it would make more sense then

[violet sluice]

But you can't interact with the other team so it effectively goes against the 'social' aspect of it.

[tame cobalt]

Dawdamn this game is amazing

[slim quiver]

thats why i just said BF2 and BF1942 had more prominence in clans and eventually started getting way less of a presence. This game is pretty casual so 2042 never killed any sort of competitive scene. The structure of the game itself killed its own competitive scene throughout its lifespan

[still vault]

I still think it was a huge mistake to scrap Battlelog. If nothing I would have wanted it improved to further enhance community building within platoons, organized tournaments etc.

[arctic grove]

If you look at portal mostly all you see if game modes that should be permanent game modes offered by dice instead people just make game mode dice refuses to make now

[fierce gull]

trying to grind for dozer t1

[tame cobalt]

Just had 3 amazing conquest large matches in a row on orbital, renewal, and manifest

[hidden flax]

Even tho talking about numbers clans were probably not the majority of bf playerbase. But the clans were part of the most loyal bf community on which dice is shitting rn by leaving out everything previous titles included. And that is just sad.

[slim quiver]

being in a clan doesn't equate to loyalty

[violet sluice]

This game needs a map editor made public so the community can make maps instead. DICE no longer knows how to do it.

[arctic grove]

It does a little

[prisma anvil]

I cant really talk about battlelog as I started from 1 and have only a small amount of info about the previous games, but I guess bf tracker kinda filled the void of battlelog I guess,

[violet sluice]

Also all the old BF's had awesome communities because they could make their own maps.

[radiant echo]

It's more unlikely to happen imo

[slim quiver]

I have played BF since 1942 and on and I can easily say is there are more loyal BF fans that started playing BF like 5 years ago than me

the amount of titles you played also does not equate to loyalty

[rocky cedar]

Wasn't Battlelog that browser thing? Man, that was awesome.

[radiant echo]

That was before frostbite minus Operation Outbreak

[still vault]

BF Tracker is not even close. Battlelog was much more than stats.

[prisma anvil]

Probably not, not saying it is

[slim quiver]

yes

[radiant echo]

BFstats was great

[slim quiver]

even existed in hardline

[violet sluice]

Yes it was before frostbite and it was better.

[bitter galleon]

imagine pay 90 euros and smgs are more powerful than ar

[prisma anvil]

I'm just not qualified to talk about battlelog

[radiant echo]

I remember a lot of mods back then

[arctic grove]

@slim quiver what about making content for the community to promote the game, teach others about skill Technics not normally known, spending time setting up private events to keep stuff fun in the game. Not loyalty?

[bitter galleon]

and need to wait one month to fix the broken pkp

[arctic grove]

Hi, anyone know how to get our friend invitation code ?

[violet sluice]

Desert Combat was amazing for its time. That oilrig map was so much fun.

Also the amount of mods people made for 1942 was rivalling Quake, and UT at the time.

[still vault]

For this Discord server it would be https://discord.gg/battlefield

[arctic grove]

I understand clans are the all in Battlefield games but using the server browser as a example it was mostly about friends wanting to play that are more than 4. Battlefield really shouldn't be controlling how we play now

[slim quiver]

if you're a content creator thats a little different. You're taking the time to actually post in depth stuff about the game. I could have joined a clan at any time in the 19-20 years almost that ive been playing BF, and it wouldnt have suddenly made my loyalty to the game any higher

[radiant echo]

Yeah just saw some of those yesterday it looked insane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l0biWQrshI

[tame cobalt]

Bruh moment

[arctic grove]

no, it's for my friend, i'm on pc and him on PS. When i search his username i find nothing and him too

@slim quiver I'm not in a clan and haven't been for years. Those guys do deserve a little recognition and I do think it's awful the way the game is treated them

[naive quiver]

crossplay turn on ?

[arctic grove]

yes

[tame cobalt]

I couldn't care less about the t1 stuff tbh. Not motivated by that kinda "achievement" stuff and most of the actual t1 skins don't look that great

[remote kiln]

if he is on last gen you cannot add him, only new gen and pc can play together

[wild oxide]

I just saw a petition for continuing live support for bfv and 17000 people signed. People are really desperate after 2042.

[still vault]

I would say having regular people to play with will indeed make people more loyal to whatever game you are playing.

[arctic grove]

he on ps4

[remote kiln]

he will need to be on ps5, last gen is exclusive to their own platform

[rocky cedar]

Old consoles cannot join PC or new console games

[arctic grove]

oh bruh

[slim quiver]

Bf games have come and gone just like fans have come and gone. Theres not a whole lot of people left who started in the 1942 days. Can't say that those people aren't loyal just because theyre gone. They were still fans regardless. If clan members should get a special recognition, it should be more the old fans should get the recognition. Which they did with portal

[arctic grove]

@slim quiver what battlefield is your favorite

[slim quiver]

yeah luckily portal makes this possible

[slim quiver]

1942 or vietnam

[foggy halo]

having no other games to play will make you the most loyal

[slim quiver]

3rd favorite is either BF1 or V

[prisma anvil]

Personally zy, clans didn't really directly correlate to loyalty, it just menat you had like minded people to play with, and most of the times, you stuck with those guys even if you get kicked or the clan gets shut down, playing with friends increased enjoyment and that in turn made you like the game... So it's indirect..

[radiant echo]

BF4 is GOAT

[tame cobalt]

This game is fire

[wild oxide]

I agree. I think there are battelfield fans for specific timeline. Like ww2 fan or modern fps fan

[foggy halo]

But we are in 2021

[arctic grove]

@slim quiver I really didn't want to like BfV, but I do a lot lol

[remote kiln]

agreed DICE should give me a gold name in 2042 along with flashing custom banners

[radiant echo]

Yeah it feels like playing BF2 after BF3 it's kinda aging

[slim quiver]

Idk why you wouldnt want to like it, it is mechanically probably the best BF game in terms of how it plays

[tame cobalt]

2042 Conquest large on the good maps 🥵 🥵 🥵 🥵 🥵 🥵

[slim quiver]

yeah like I dont understand the point of rewarding loyalty

[arctic grove]

Do you think that for an update, ps4 and pc will be able to play together

[slim quiver]

especially to just people in clans

[tame cobalt]

No

[rocky cedar]

Have we gotten ANY word from the new studio heads at DICE regarding 2042?

[slim quiver]

yup this

[remote kiln]

no DICE have been explicitly clear last gen is exclusive, this will not change

[arctic grove]

@slim quiver I wanted something modern. I was upset with the rent a server stuff and no HC mode. Over time the game became one of my favorite and I love the planes

[slim quiver]

not enough people realize how many old fans quit after BF switched over to BF2 or BF3

[remote kiln]

[tame cobalt]

The versions of the game are not compatible

[radiant echo]

Yep so true

[foggy halo]

Loyalty is important in both business and our personal lives. ... Loyalty is valuable because it allows us to take the risk of predicting the actions and behavior of people we trust. 3. One may not always correctly decide who to be loyal to, and some people may even disappoint us or deceive us when we are loyal to them.31 Mar 2016

[slim quiver]

Hardcore is another thing that was getting minor population in

Hardcore simply was not a massive part of the community

BF2 hardcore players literally made project reality for this reason

[wild oxide]

Bfv fans prefer hard-core but I Don't think bfv is majority of the community

[slim quiver]

they simply wanted a more hardcore experience in a game that is inherently very casual

[slim quiver]

when it comes to video games and consumerism, there is always a new audience

[radiant echo]

Vince unleashed

[remote kiln]

if I don't get my golden plated name in 2042 I'm #gettingarefundgreedyEA

[fierce gull]

I want a golden plated name

[prisma anvil]

Yes, and chasing that audience is fine, but only after you know that the old guys will definitely be content, maybe not happy, but atleast content

[arctic grove]

@slim quiver they could have really made this game more HC with a casual aspect it wouldn't have been hard

This game meaning games

[radiant echo]

BF5 was little more hardcore imo and people didn't like it

[violet sluice]

They could have done at least 100 things much better than they did. It's sad that 2042 has the Battlefield name slapped onto it.

[radiant echo]

Attrition and fortifications

[tacit arrow]

the range of smgs in this game is ridiculous

[rocky cedar]

2042 was destined to fail when it began as a battle royale, then got remade into an arena shooter with characters with supadupa skills

This shit was so far removed from what a Battlefield is, well, was

[tame cobalt]

Bongy

2042 is destined to be the GOAT until the next one dethrones it

[slim quiver]

think about it this way: How many fans of the game will not like this game and yet continue to play it anyways? Im betting its quite a large percentage. You can tell just by taking a basic survey on social media. We have people on here, reddit, twitter that complain daily that they hate the game and yet they load up the game daily and continue to play with hundreds of hours of playtime even though they come on here and tell people theyre not having fun. Why is that exactly? Well they will either tell you :

1. I dont have anything else to play
2. I only play battlefield really
3. I want the game to be good and i will stick it out because im hoping for change
4. Change will make the game better
5. The patches have made me want to play

The fans that will leave this game will be massively outnumbered by the fans that will continue to stay and play regardless of whether or not they have fun and the people who have left will be replaced with a brand new audience. This is how every game that has multiple iterations turns out

[tame cobalt]

I love bf 2042

[fierce gull]

People are saying 2042 is a hero shooter well I can prove them wrong

[arctic grove]

I like Manifest it's my favorite map

[tame cobalt]

Unblocked

[wild oxide]

I think what I like about battelfield title is that every new title has different mechanics and different setting. I might be controversial but I like the challenge dice has tried.

[fierce gull]

I tagged hero shooter in my search on steam https://store.steampowered.com/tags/en/Hero+Shooter?l=english#p=0&tab=ConcurrentUsers and I see no battlefield 2042 in sight checkmate

[rocky cedar]

Mine too! It allows me to teleport! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-L81kLuFZk

[foggy halo]

I don't use smgs so it doesn't bother me
I use Assault rifles

[slim quiver]

Point is 2042 is just a new BF title and the same thing will happen as every BF title before it will. people will complain for a while and then people will say its good

[tame cobalt]

Anyone who says manifest is one of the best maps is based

[fierce gull]

People are gonna love it when the next bf releases

[arctic grove]

It's my favorite map in the game

[slim quiver]

BFV took 3 years and the release of 2042 for the community to say its a good game

[tacit arrow]

well my problem is how easy smgs snipe me from a distance when i use AR

[wild oxide]

Even if dice has done everything community asked for and like every mechanics in the game, there are still people who will complain

[rocky cedar]

Crap, wrong video. This one: https://youtu.be/lVtAUDe2V5w No other map has this weird shit going on 😄

[tame cobalt]

What are your fav conquest large maps

[fierce gull]

Lol that's weird shit they gonna fix that next patch

[arctic grove]

@tame cobalt in 2042 manifest

[foggy halo]

But if smgs will be weak they will use ARS so it doesn’t really matter
Unless you are really into realism 😉 😉

[rocky cedar]

Nooo! I like weird shit 😄

[foggy halo]

realism and immersion

[tame cobalt]

And second?

[arctic grove]

@rocky cedar I gave you a like 👍

[rocky cedar]

Thanks mate! Appreciate it really! 🙂

[tacit arrow]

thinking like that they there wouldnt be a problem with full auto snipers on bipods -.-

[fierce gull]

LMGs?

[arctic grove]

@tame cobalt honestly couldn't tell you I guess orbital

[foggy halo]

Most people won't play with snipers tho

[fierce gull]

PKP absolute beast

[hidden flax]

Pretty much all of the things people are complaining about not being included in bf 2042 main game are things that only a minority was playing. Thats the case bc the battlefield playerbase has so many people that dont really play games at all and just get on, play on or two games and get off again. They don't even know what hardcore etc. means, bc they just play whatever the game shows them as "the main game".
Does this mean u should leave the things as server browser, hardcore, etc. just out in general bc the majority of players wouldn't even notice?
I dont think so bc the people that actually CARE about the battlefield franchise and are complaining are just completely threaten like bullshit and ignored. And if you do so with your "loyal community" you won't really get a community in bf anymore bc those people will quit and start playing other games instead and the only people that stay are those who play 3 games after a work day and get off again.
So overall dice is literally ruining the community they build over bf3 and other previous titles up to now.

[rocky cedar]

Discarded, Manifest, Orbital. Favourite maps with 2042. I don't think Kaleidoscope is as awful as people make it out to be, but it certainly is weak. You can have good games at Kaleidoscope but it requires that 90% of the 128 players aren't jerking eachothers around point D 😄

[naive quiver]

😂😂 This game is amazing, I got stuck on bug can’t even resurrection

[wild oxide]

There are people who will complain no matter how good the game is.

[arctic grove]

I don't really think any of the maps are bad. There are some that I feel nothing about

[tame cobalt]

Yeah I think manifest and orbital are the best cq large maps in the game

[wild oxide]

I want maps like Whitehouse in usa

[rocky cedar]

That lawn would get rather crappy with 128 people shooting each others with tanks

[arctic grove]

The AA cannon in the MAV is mad OP

[hidden flax]

That's true. But look on the feedback given to the game on Steam and you will see that its not about some people that are complaining.

[slim quiver]

I mean game sales dropped since BF3 and then sparked back up after BF hardline again and then dropped again. It doesn't really matter what state the game is in because the battlefield community is absolutely fickle and picky about any title that comes out. This is literally nothing new, and no the loyal fans will not stop playing en masse. It will never happen, if it was going to we would have already seen it happen.

[prisma anvil]

Sad thing is right zzy, we just say the last game was better cuz the current one is a downgrade... Happened for bf4 to 1, and 1 to 5 and now 5 to 2042, like bf1, great game, but even I can tell gameplay loop was simplified, a lot of shit removed, less guns, less customisation, but atleast bf1 had a decent chunk of new and well done things... 1 to 5 was just a straight up downgrade in every aspect except the gunplay and movement, and 2042's an even bigger downgrade from 5 but for different reasons... That's the thing, the guys who're now enjoying 2042, it's gonna be the same for them when the next one comes out, and then the next one... When does it stop?

[slim quiver]

we have people that literally say they hate the game with a burning passion, they complain every single day and have been doing so since early access release and yet they STILL log on and play the game daily

[arctic grove]

Lol

[slim quiver]

the idea that something like this even occurs tells me the community is not being killed by 2042

[arctic grove]

People need an outlet. This is easy access for them

[tame cobalt]

I get why not everyone is a fan of kaleidoscope but IMO it's a really fun cq large map. Just a fun little playground with some cool flags to fight for

[slim quiver]

why even complain if you're actually able to log on and play something you hate for 6 hours a day

[tender folio]

[slim quiver]

it makes virtually no sense. If i hated something, I simply wouldnt play it

[wild oxide]

Average fps gamers. This game is so trash, proceeds to play for another 12 hours

[arctic grove]

I like the game but hate some of the design features.

[slim quiver]

yeah exactly this

[prisma anvil]

[wild oxide]

I feel like I get pressured to play because of how much I paid for the game

[tender folio]

which topic now? did i miss something?

[dull badger]

I already think it is good. Ofcourse there will be flaws but i adore the game regardless because i have been looking forward to it so bad. Also the graphics are amazing. All the details?! wauw

[arctic grove]

I think also a lot of people don't want to give up on battlefield because they know it's potential and it is fun

[prisma anvil]

Usual, game bad, me no like, dice fix

[dull badger]

i meant to react to Zzzyy.. forgot the ping.. oops

[slim quiver]

spending time playing something you hate for the justification of the money you spent is bad. You are literally losing in return, you're losing time that could be spent enjoying something you like over some money that will be replaced

[tame cobalt]

Conquest Large maps
A tier: Manifest, Orbital
B tier: Renewal, Kaleidoscope, Discarded
C tier: Hourglass, Breakaway

[slim quiver]

its like going to a job you hate for free

[radiant echo]

Yup

[slim quiver]

you sit there for hours playing something in your free time that should be enjoyable but isnt, only to say "welll at least I put 200 hours in to justify the cost"

[tender folio]

I can imagine even during new year party. People will come down here and say "game bad".

[wild oxide]

Maybe it's because I am broke.

[prisma anvil]

People will get drunk during new years, chat will be extra spicy then

[tame cobalt]

CQ Large on Renewal has grown on me. Honestly a very cool map

[arctic grove]

I can't wait to get drunk

[fierce gull]

Maybe when they will turn drunk they will say 2042 is good

[slim quiver]

i spent 100 dollars on the game, i havent played it since Nov 23rd and I feel 100% fine. I stopped complaining about the game and I moved on to play other games. My sanity and disappointment were basically washed away

[tender folio]

jeez, then I'm gonna get something instead of popcorn. Sounds fun .. lol

[outer harbor]

I've made some conquest 32 layout concepts and posted them on reddit if anyone here uses that!

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/rr7pd1/concept_conquest_32_layouts_with_specialised/

Let me know what you think 🙂

[prisma anvil]

I already have some spicy water for that night

[wild oxide]

I wish content creators could do the same. I can really see that they are forced to play the game.

[prisma anvil]

Mods are gonna have a field day that night

[slim quiver]

well thats because they make money

if someone paid me money to play a video game i hated

id do it too

[fierce gull]

Who wouldn't

[tame cobalt]

Conquest 32? not a bad idea tbh

[arctic grove]

Money talks people do stuff they hate for it

[slim quiver]

this

except guess what

the average player isnt making money by playing

so if you hate the game, stop playing it

[tender folio]

I think im gonna get big drunk too.

[slim quiver]

you wont feel the need to spend even more time complaining about the state of a game you no longer are getting frustrated with

[fierce gull]

That's pretty sick not a bad idea at all

[slim quiver]

you will just walk away from it

[next isle]

Depends on how much money and how much time

[prisma anvil]

And that's why I don't listen to influencers too much before release.... Cuz they're content creators, not reviewers, it's a job to them... Offcourse they're gonna be overtly positive

[hidden flax]

You might be right with that but the feedback still shows how unsatisfied many people are about how dice designed this game. And in my opinion to say "yeah we know that many people of our community will get mad about the game and want things we had in previous titles but the game still sells well and the franchise will survive that somehow" is not the way you should start developing your game.
But maybe I am just weird.

[slim quiver]

until we see the sales and if the game is thriving or not, we simply just wont know

who knows this game could have sold 20 million copies

we simply do not know

the silent majority outweighs the vocal minority

[wild oxide]

Retailers who bought hard copies would be majority

[prisma anvil]

Could be, but highly unlikely, I'm betting it probably sold equal to or a bit below bf1

[hidden flax]

Ye. but you cant ignore the feedback on steam. I mean it is one of the worst reviewed games ever 😂

[slim quiver]

digital sales are actually much higher than physical sales

[arctic grove]

@prisma anvil me too.

[slim quiver]

digital sales have been higher for most games for years now

[arctic grove]

You can't request facts on if sales are this and that and platform percentage than say quiet majority stuff with out the numbers

[slim quiver]

digital sales are actually usually better too because people have access to them immediately

without having to go out and get a copy or missing a release night

[prisma anvil]

Yeah digital is obviously gonna be high

[slim quiver]

while digital is simply right there and unlocks immediately

[prisma anvil]

But I don't think we're getting an official sales count anytime soon

[sacred wedge]

Also, there’s simply the whole thing where the larger the sample size, the more representative of the whole it is.

[slim quiver]

it could be months

maybe not even until 1 year

[rocky cedar]

Yeah, its all about how you approach the maps. Not every map can be played the same, or otherwise your experience will be shit.

[prisma anvil]

I'm betting 6 months

[sacred wedge]

Doesn’t matter if the people talking online are a minority of players, they’re still going to be a fairly representative cross section of the player base

[tame cobalt]

True

[slim quiver]

they can provide a snap shot of what we can make a generalized statement about the player base yes

[arctic grove]

Where do we have to look to see if the player base is happy?

[slim quiver]

but either way apparently EA said its performing in terms of players better than BFV launch

[prisma anvil]

Cuz now they're in full damage control mode, they cant release anything that might put the game in a bad light.. or atleast try to not do that..... But it can be thought that since they're not celebrating the launch as the most successful one yet, it probably wasn't that good, might've undersold...

[slim quiver]

so either way its probably doing pretty well

[next isle]

Sales are usually mentioned in EA's earnings calls, no?

[wild oxide]

Does refund get deducted from sales.

[sacred wedge]

Next big one isn’t until the spring isn’t it?

[wild oxide]

I am pretty sure a lot of people refunded the game

[slim quiver]

probably not because at that point its through a retailer store

[rocky cedar]

It would help if they playtested their patches. Last one had a interesting bug disabling mouse's vector movement.

[fierce gull]

maybe

[next isle]

Something you'll have to ask EA Investor Relations

[tame cobalt]

Using the towers to base jump is a key part of what makes conquest large on kaleidoscope so fun. That, and the fact that the objectives are all pretty fun to fight for

[arctic grove]

EA's stock is a 78% buy

[slim quiver]

unless PSN, Xbox store and gamestop, best buy, amazon ect provide them with details

[prisma anvil]

Again, they could, but that would mean the patch would be held back for weeks, atleast 2

[slim quiver]

they could probably easily track origin refunds

as for anything else probably would have to inquire about the information

[hidden flax]

You got to admit that the player count of 2042 is lower than the playercount of bfv on steam rn

[rocky cedar]

You can't claim them being in damage control mode while they're still shoveling shit. Like, disabling mouse is such a fundamental flaw that they're either incompetent or just don't care.

[rapid moon]

Balls

[sacred wedge]

Sample size pops up there as well though as they can likely approximate the same figures for other platforms from the Origin figures

[arctic grove]

I'm surprised I've been able to go all night with out coffee

[tame cobalt]

😳

[slim quiver]

thats just steam tho so it doesnt mean much

[tender folio]

[rapid moon]

@tame cobalt what makes you happy?

[sacred wedge]

There’s nothing inherent to which storefront somebody uses that makes them more or less likely to refund

[slim quiver]

not true at all

[tame cobalt]

Playing video games i enjoy

[prisma anvil]

Hell they mightve even known about the mouse issue in the patch, but to fix it in the code might've/could've fucked up some other major aspect, that the user wouldn't directly be able to fix

[slim quiver]

some store fronts are insanely strict about refunds

[rapid moon]

What games do you enjoy

[slim quiver]

steam is probably the most forgiving refunding on the market

[outer harbor]

Thanks, I think CQ128 is fun but there are times when its more fun to have a more focussed experience. The maps themselves have some great locations, just about putting the right focus on them to tune the balance with vehicles and infantry in my opinion. The same way it was in BC2,BF3,BF4 etc...

[tame cobalt]

Battlefield 2042

[slim quiver]

you have 2 hours to test the game, anything under 2 hours is an immediate refund, anything over 2 hours needs to be approved

and you have 14 days to do it

[prisma anvil]

Again, you gotta remember, 1. These aren't full experienced guys 2. Frostbite at this point is like a tangled ball of yarn

[rapid moon]

Nice i too enjoy said game

[tame cobalt]

Based.

[rapid moon]

Cope

[prisma anvil]

Playstation doesn't even refund if you start downloading the game lmao...

[arctic grove]

My games for 2022 = Bf2042 and DayZ

[rocky cedar]

Really? 😄

[slim quiver]

sometimes steam even offers more lax refunds on games who have been critically hit with very poor review scores

[sacred wedge]

And yet, somebody who truly wants a refund is quite likely to jump through hoops regardless.

And then there’s the matter of refunds post-launch vs cancelled pre-orders

[fierce gull]

???

[prisma anvil]

Yep.. if you start the download it counts as using the product and you can't refund it anymore

[slim quiver]

playstation is extremely strict on refunds

sometimes its not even worth the hassle with them

[rocky cedar]

Sounds pleasant

[arctic grove]

I've gotten 2 refunds with Playstation

[prisma anvil]

Now, certain people might've gotten refunds on ps even though they mightve played a bit... But that's non standard

[fierce gull]

wha? how come I refunded a game even though I played the game

[wild oxide]

I got 2 or 3 refunds that I have over 2 hours playtime in ps.

[slim quiver]

consensus maybe

[arctic grove]

One was call of duty after I played the other was Insurgency sandstorm

[slim quiver]

2077 got a lot of lax refunds on playstation

so many that they took the game off the market

[frosty gorge]

Tbh my main gripe with BF2042 in its current state is just the lack of content in the base game, portal is nice but just wish there was a lot more to do in the base game :/

[rocky cedar]

2077 was 35 worse than 2042!

[sacred wedge]

It’s ME Andromeda all over again

[prisma anvil]

Yeah cuz cd told people that sony would... And sony, thus to fuck with cd, took it off the market

[slim quiver]

I liked 2077 a lot

had really no issues with that game

[slim quiver]

pretty much

[next onyx]

Honestly my issue is the lack of features we've grown to accept Grez, That and the awful maps.

[tame cobalt]

Most of the maps are good

[frosty gorge]

Its in a really good state now, just got it a few days ago, still a lot of visual glitches, but nothing game breaking so far, its been fun

[fierce gull]

orbital is good

[next onyx]

Yeah Orbital and Manifest are great maps

[slim quiver]

Ive grown to accept I do not like the game and I simply will not like the game and it was best to quit 1 month ago and it absolutely worked and i am happy with my decisions

[tame cobalt]

Orbital is great

[arctic grove]

I'm not tripping on no maps give me the features!

[rocky cedar]

I upgraded my rig to play the game but I didn't even buy it in its state 😄 I hear its a lot better now but still has ways to go. So, I'm not touching it for another year... after which I think I'll just forget it because they'll surely stop fixing stuff.

[prisma anvil]

Did 2077 ever get a proper law enforcement system?

[arctic grove]

2077, what was that game again? lol

[frosty gorge]

Tbh I dont mind the lack of a scoreboard etc etc, I just wish there was a public API available for those who do care

[tame cobalt]

Based.

[slim quiver]

it is

[next onyx]

Yeah same Zy I feel better not playing the game in its current state.

[slim quiver]

cyberpunk

[slim quiver]

100%

[arctic grove]

I know, but 2077 is lost and forgotten

[slim quiver]

havent played the game since november 23rd

i just play other games and im 100% happy

[fierce gull]

I only like hourglass when the sandstorm arrives

[rocky cedar]

This.

[slim quiver]

idk I still enjoy it

[sacred wedge]

Might be time for EA to consider switching to Unreal instead of relying on Frostbite for everything

[arctic grove]

I really regret buying it.

[tacit arrow]

however, the scoreboard is a good way to spot cheaters, and in this case how many bots are in the game

[next onyx]

I'm gonna give the game a try when I get a PC so i don't get swamped by PC (Plus don't fight a broken aim assist)

Should have worded that better. You know what i mean

[fierce gull]

you can see bots in the player board or list

[frosty gorge]

Nah it had a BIG comeback recently, quite a few players were playing in the last month, its much better now, just a shame it took a year to get where it should have been on release, hope the same isnt said for BF2042 in a years time

[sacred wedge]

2077 is also slated for first batch of DLC first quarter next year IIRC

[rocky cedar]

Search your feelings, you know it'll be true.

[hollow osprey]

Give it till summer I say

[arctic grove]

I might have to install it again then, but the story didn't really interest me. Unfortunately...

[tacit arrow]

i was not aware of this

[prisma anvil]

Ngl, I just come here cuz I like talking to people and sometimes there's some actually good debates about features and things they could do.. plus I've actually come to enjoy some of the guys and gals here.... I'd recommend just going back to older bf's, trust me, you'll have a hell of a better time if you do

[frosty gorge]

Why you gotta make me cry fam 😢

[slim quiver]

yeah thats fair, I regret buying 2042. we cant win them all

[arctic grove]

Yeah sadly 😭 ( Luckily I enjoy 2042)

[wild oxide]

I regret trusting ign

[rocky cedar]

Man, sorry. Made myself sad, too. Gotta go make some coffee.

[sacred wedge]

I skipped 2042 precisely because the reveal trailer and first wave of news sent up a bunch of red flags to me

[frosty gorge]

not really done much of the main stuff yet, been enjoying the side missions too much, plus after the disappointment in FC6's story I doubt it can be that bad

[slim quiver]

I havent trusted IGN since they gave alien isolation a 5.9/10

[tacit arrow]

I dont really regret buying it, i even bought new hardware anticipating the game, just disapointed atm. Hope it improves and that the playerbase stays/grows

[sacred wedge]

As a general rule, marketing that is overly reliant on crowdpleasing gimmicks is a big red flag.

[slim quiver]

Glad you do!

[foggy halo]

I think most people regretted after they saw the discount

[prisma anvil]

My red flag was the beta, immediately brain went "wee woo wee woo, looks like some fuckshit is about to go down" and thus i didn't buy

[slim quiver]

Oh i didnt care about the discount

i wouldnt pay 20 dollars for 2042

[arctic grove]

I promised to myself I won't buy another Ubisoft game lol. Till they prove themselves

[wild oxide]

I bought it in turkish lira and I got it for10 dollars

[frosty gorge]

Yeah honestly I would give BF2042 a solid 6-7/10 atm, its not bad, its just not where it should be, and a lot of modes are just unplayable, hazard zone is fun but unbalanced, the 128 player modes are just death by helicopter atm

[tame cobalt]

Can't wait to get more epic content in season 1, 2, etc

[livid sequoia]

dude the newer assasins creed games are great

[fierce gull]

hype

[arctic grove]

They aren't bad! But it also feels really empty at the same time

[frosty gorge]

was watching a video comparing FC4 to FC6, my god, FC4 is so much more detailed its hilarious

[arctic grove]

legit

[prisma anvil]

True grezju, if you look at it objectively, it's a meh, not too bad, but nothing great to write home about either .

[tame cobalt]

Best conquest large map. NOW

[arctic grove]

And I love the FC series, but these last few games have really put me off from the franchise.

[rocky cedar]

I was supposed to write a review but decided to skip it due to how fracked up the beta was. Still, I got the game with my own monies because I was intrigued how things would develop, and write shit about that. And, make videos on my channel etc.

[frosty gorge]

Indeed thats my biggest issues atm, if BF2042 was a f2p game I would be more than happy with how it is, it certainly beats warzone, but as something that costs near enough £50, not too happy

[sacred wedge]

The tornado was probably the first big warning sign. Like Levolution in BF4, I immediately recognized it as something that would be kinda cool the first 5-10 times, and then a boring or annoying gimmick thereafter.

[frosty gorge]

same here, FC6 is way better than 5, but its no FC2/4

[wild oxide]

Tornado really ruins a decent push from attackers in breakthrough

[arctic grove]

That I can agree with, but still I wouldn't buy it lol

[frosty gorge]

I like the tornado ngl, really cheesy way to move around as a sniper in HZ lmao

[prisma anvil]

Dude, I played with 2 accounts with the ea play trial during launch week and I almost thought about doing an almost 3 hr long review/rant on YouTube, I still have the script

[sacred wedge]

Like, the skyscraper collapsing in Shanghai is probably the most pointed to Levolution, but the map actively plays worse after it collapses, and by the 100th time on the map it’s just a gimmick that doesn’t actually contribute much to the game.

But hey, it looked cool in a trailer.

[paper stirrup]

anyone wanna play?

[next onyx]

No interest in far cry since 5

4 was fun

5 was boring

[frosty gorge]

5 was a joke, probs the worst one of the lot for me

[paper stirrup]

i think some of the missions were repetitive

[frosty gorge]

genuinely preferred primal to 5

[paper stirrup]

but montana was a good setting

[sacred wedge]

4 and 5 are them trying to recapture the success of 3 with the same formula over and over. 6 kinda moved away from that but not enough.

[prisma anvil]

True, I'm gonna wait.... If my worries are correct, before season 1, there'll be another discount, and I'll probably pick it up for 20$ or something... Or maybe later, they should've just gone ftp

[prisma anvil]

That and all the "old build" jargon... That was immediate bullshit alarm for me

[arctic grove]

Think I'm going to build a fpv Drone

[frosty gorge]

Hazard zone should 100% be f2p, and maybe even all out warfare too, only one I can understand being pay to play is portal

[mental delta]

Lol I guess I am the only one who didn't know about advertisement in battlefield 2042 ?

[frosty gorge]

nah 4 was good, 5 tho, my god was it dull

[arctic grove]

portal should be free to play

[paper stirrup]

5 i think is still good

[tame cobalt]

Hope exposure is at least a B tier map. C tier would be disappointing

[paper stirrup]

but i feel as if it could be easiar

[sacred wedge]

Same. If the purpose of a open beta is to find things that QA hasn’t yet, and to play test balance on a massive scale, using an old build actively defeats the purpose because all the info is out of date and reports will be made for problems fixed months ago.

[frosty gorge]

as it is now, agreed, but when they add a load of content down the line, its gonna be basically a whole new game that is gonna have so much more potential than a standard game, so I can see it actually being worth to pay for

[mental delta]

Yeah and the whole game should be too, what a good idea lol

[rocky cedar]

I made a quick somethingsomething after the launch and tried to stay positive. I still think this thing can turn around and there are LOTS of things I like in this game - like how you can change the attachments of the gun situationally, which was a damned HUGE deal to me https://youtu.be/3rKpLZ9GlQg 😄

[prisma anvil]

I've said this before right, but it would've been infinitely better if they went the cod route and just did a trigame remaster in the new engine... Like full remasters of bc2, 3 and 1942 and just sold that... Hell next time, they could've done three other games, like bf4, bc1 and vietnam

[arctic grove]

and thats why it should be for free for ever with monthly content updates otherwise they will never come close to warzone or apex ^^

[mental delta]

I think we can wait a while for that

[sacred wedge]

Only way I’ll get 2042 at this point is if they massive change course on the design philosophy or implement 2142 in portal.

[arctic grove]

make portal free to play with lifetime support. stop releasing new battlefields. just make it Battlefield: Portal

[paper stirrup]

send me the script

[foggy tundra]

2142 2142 2142

[sacred wedge]

I miss my PAC hover tanks and mechs

[tame cobalt]

I like only getting the best content from the games

[foggy tundra]

tiger best tank

[frosty gorge]

I agree but at the same time I can see portal actually being worth paying for down the line if that makes sense, whereas HZ and all out warfare I cant see being worth $60 no matter how much they add content wise

[paper stirrup]

anyone wanna play?

[sacred wedge]

Or wait for BF1 to be added to portal hopefully with a revamped Monte Grappe and St. Quentin’s Scar

[arctic grove]

they could make portal the perfect battlefield also for the future. make it for free with monthly content updates and add a seasonshop so people can buy skins to monetize the game

[sacred wedge]

Monte Grappe with 2142’s mechs would be hilarious

[tame cobalt]

First bf1 maps in portal will be amiens and scar

[frosty gorge]

F2P model is by far the most successful model to use, no idea why all games dont use it honestly

[arctic grove]

battlefield needs it as its dying otherwise.

[minor carbon]

(8

[frosty gorge]

Even games that only last a few months make more than they would as p2p games by going f2p its crazy they didnt go f2p

[sacred wedge]

Got chase that biannual lump sum profits sugar rush for investors

[arctic grove]

f2p model is the best. when people like the game they will always buy skins

[minor carbon]

E

[sacred wedge]

Also, F2P long term requires committing a team to that project long term and not shifting them over to other stuff

[glossy storm]

Nick930 documentary dropped.

[frosty gorge]

not even the skins, its the battlepass which EVERYONE buys, literally everyone

[arctic grove]

true

[tame cobalt]

Bf isn't f2p for the same reason fifa isn't f2p. People who want it buy it

[raw vale]

i'm gonna rate BF2042 a 20/42

[fierce gull]

wow

[frosty gorge]

no one minds paying $20 for a game they love playing, and the illusion of f2p makes you lose track long term of just how much you spend on the game, like I feel I only spent $10 on warzone, but its probs closer to $50-100

[arctic grove]

thats not true. fifa does 90% of the money with ultimate packs

[prisma anvil]

i need to find it, it was handwritten and i've probably shelved it somewhere by now

[prisma anvil]

i mean, for all i knew it couldve been an old build, but i still saw the fundamental issues with the game and those along with what they said just rubbed me in the wrong way.

[prisma anvil]

yeah but with a full remaster you dont have to wonder what the "best content" is now do ya?....for you something mightve been great, but for someone else it mightve been something else..

[tame cobalt]

I don't have to wonder what the best content is, the devs will figure it out

[rocky cedar]

All hail the devs

[frosty gorge]

They dont need to, people are telling EA what they want, all they gotta do is listen, its simple

[prisma anvil]

just saying in that case, they couldve satisfied everyone who liked that specific game with all its content..

[rocky cedar]

But in all seriousness, a dev has very little say in most anything. Everything that went wrong with 2042 started and ended with the management. It was a mess.

[frosty gorge]

Its not a fault of the devs either way, I can guarantee they want to fix the game and do what people want, its EA that fuck ya!

[violet sluice]

Listening | Simple | EA

What?

[frosty gorge]

lmao

[fierce gull]

glad one of them are listening and removing c5 drones

[prisma anvil]

nah, devs share a small part of the blame, its a very small part but its still there.

[rocky cedar]

He/she will get fired from taking initiative and listening the community!

[tame cobalt]

If i get a new version of bfv i don't want fjell or hamada or narvik to be in the game at all. They pull the overall quality down

[frosty gorge]

they defo share a part for the bugs and glitches, but equally they fixed those so fast for the most part, where as gameplay decisions lie solely on EA

[fierce gull]

nooooooo

[prisma anvil]

i mean, we arent getting 1 or V anytime soon

[tame cobalt]

Just as an example. Plus i love playing 2042 tdm on noshahr and caspian and botb and would love to add some of the great rush maps to 2042 rush, and you don't get that with a normal remaster

[prisma anvil]

i say that, cuz of the dev/s( that person was a dev right?) who lauded the new ui, scoreboard being so great and in the case of the scoreboard an improvement over the past..correct me if i'm wrong

[dusky blade]

I would kill for a BC2 remaster

Goodbye

[frosty gorge]

I just hate the big drive by EA and Activision recently to hide peoples stats, actual joke

[prisma anvil]

i mean remaster in the sense of bigger portal basically, with all the content from 3 games

[neat totem]

they're making disney shooters now, basically they don't want any negative emotions

[frosty gorge]

Eh I wish there was the choice to select a score board, but honestly if there was just a public API available I think 99% of those sort of issues would just be accepted as they are in game as an API could make up for all the issues for the people who do care about those things

[neat totem]

let's see how that pans out, seems like they're kinda playing with fire though and public opinion is turning quick

I'm still waiting for the lawsuit due to false advertising TBH

[prisma anvil]

explain this api thing a bit will ya?...i'm in the dark about this

[fierce gull]

WTF

[tame cobalt]

well... sure. that would've raised the budget doe

[fierce gull]

my own smoke grenade killed me

[rocky cedar]

Do you imagine it would sit well with the managers if a lowly dev drone would say what he/she things publicly? Even a team of devs can't influence much anything because they're just realizing someone else's plan. There has been news about how half of the devs were new at DICE going into the 2042, but really, to blame anyone else but the middle management is an injustice.

[prisma anvil]

without AOW or HZ, it really wouldnt

[frosty gorge]

to put it in simple terms its something you can ask "what's this players KD, total kills, kills in this game, deaths in that game etc etc" and it will spit out an answer, I can send you an example of what you can do with it with warzones API if you want?

[wise zodiac]

Morning folks.

Are we all behaving?

[tame cobalt]

No

[frosty gorge]

Never

[fierce gull]

coming soon? https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042

[neat totem]

battlefield 2042 best game 2021 reviews show it

[rocky cedar]

What is this behaving and can you tell me about it!

[frosty gorge]

There is rumours the API for BF2042 will be released march 2022, but its just rumours unfortunately

[wise zodiac]

Figured.

[fierce gull]

and somehow still nominated for best games you suck at

[wise zodiac]

Well, part of it, it's this thing where people are nice to each other and respect others opinions.

[neat totem]

remind the guy above you, thanks

[frosty gorge]

imagine respecting people

[wise zodiac]

Yeah. =/

[rocky cedar]

That would be pretty great, but I'm not holding my breath. I would love to see my development statswise 😦

[frosty gorge]

for real, I love the warzone stats sites, one of my favourite things to grind the leaderboards on, shame there is no reason to grind BF other than for a red skin on a weapon

[prisma anvil]

i know what you mean, and i get that sentiment, but some decisions werent made by ea, youre a fool to think if EA micromanaged dice that much, they probably just gave guidelines and general things they wanted to see and left dice to implement them....certain things are dice's fault...now a singular dev shares a very negligible part of teh blame, but they do share that part....and that part should never be taken away....i will still say both the higher ups at EA and Dice take the most blame

[mental delta]

What is this respect and can you tell me about it!

[rocky cedar]

That is why I mostly play with just friends and chew the fat. And, drink lots of whiskey.

[arctic grove]

You can tell when you come across a warzone player in Battlefield because they always try to squad down right when they see you

[main patrol]

Any tips for getting master for Boris?

[arctic grove]

@main patrol use the repair tool to keep his turret alive

[rocky cedar]

Oh, I am definitely not referring to EA. DICE screwed this pooch on their own. EA were just the moneymen. This is absolutely on DICE's own middle management for not being able to lead a project into a success. Sure, it might've already made the money used in the development, so I guess in that sense the game is a success.

[mental delta]

These weirdos are only moving out when they are in squad but don't come at you when they're alone, pure cowards they are

[prisma anvil]

ahhh..so kind of like bftracker....nah, that can maybe( even then i wouldnt) replace the stat page, but not he ingame and end game scoreboard....

[frosty gorge]

Tbh havent played warzone in months, game was giving my migraines with the amount of stress it causes, has a damn near negative skill gap

[wise zodiac]

Respect is kinda like singing "Living On A Prayer" with a bunch of random people, and if someone is off key, at the end of the song, you tell them good job, shake their hand, and walk away.

[rocky cedar]

Maybe 2042's casualness is better for you!

[frosty gorge]

its less to do with replacing it, more a compliment, so if you did want to see more detail you have the option to

[prisma anvil]

oh i'm pretty sure they made their money back, thats easy to see, but i dont it was as good as they hoped it'd be

[arctic grove]

Man I can't wait to get off work and play

[prisma anvil]

i mean, we had that with bf tracker, we had the ingame page for general stats, and the tracker site for more indepth stat, with long term curves, match details, and leaderboards,

[mental delta]

Respect looks so deep and important, is there a way to learn this new ability ?

[frosty gorge]

Oh I am loving 2042 atm, honestly dare I say it I wouldnt even mind if they buffed aim assist and SBMM, its so lax atm its low key boring, although defo prefer lax to warzones aim assist on steroids

[arctic grove]

Buffing aim assist to the point you don't have to aim

[rocky cedar]

Most certainly not. Even though we avid fans are the loud minority, the quality and the state of 2042 cuts into the next BF in to an extent. Considering the long term and milking the franchise 2042 was an absolute failure.

[frosty gorge]

otherwise known as call of duty

[arctic grove]

@frosty gorge on console aiming is better with the assist turned down

[prisma anvil]

cuz the issue is, they talk about long term, but havent done a single thing yet that would help this game in the long term, so its kinda hard to believe that

[wise zodiac]

Start playing Living On A Prayer? Idk.

[rocky cedar]

100 % this. What they say and do are the polar opposites.

[frosty gorge]

Tbh aim assist aint too bad on console with the lower FOV, the rotational makes sense, on PC with 120 FOV rotational is clapped

[prisma anvil]

we talking about mw?

[mental delta]

Ho I didn't think this song was real, is there a minimum lvl to be able to look for it on YouTube or a cheat code maybe ?

[frosty gorge]

warzone and COD in general, MW MP isnt too bad imo, CW/Vanguard however

[mental delta]

Anime skins and laser bullets go brrrrrr

[prisma anvil]

yeah, mw2019 and apex isnt really a good example of balanced AA

[frosty gorge]

Apex isnt that bad, way better than COD in general

[arctic grove]

Bf2042 hardcore defuse, no aim assist 60% health, friendly fire on

[mental delta]

You mean rush or the defuse mode from bf4 ?

[neat totem]

I like how the lead developer hasn't nerfed the PKP

[rocky cedar]

Your avatar fits your line!

[arctic grove]

@mental delta rush is fine but defuse from bf4 is my one love

[silk surge]

2042 was the second best selling Battlefield game in its first week. That doesn't mean that it's a stable game, but they certainly made a lot of money of it.

[neat totem]

do you guys literally need someone to tell you that shit is blatantly broken or is this some kind of shitty game meta you're pushing

[proper latch]

No advertising

[mental delta]

The gamemode in 5 vs 5 ?

[arctic grove]

@mental delta yes

[neat totem]

imagine thinking the pkp is fucking balanced when it's a 200-round lasergun

[rocky cedar]

Its the age of gaming we're in: release now, fix later (maybe)

[mental delta]

I played it only 2 times I think and it was when the game released, idk the objective of this gamemode

[wise zodiac]

Minimum level is birth. =D

[fierce gull]

SVK is more op than pkp

[arctic grove]

I'm not noticing much issues with the pkp I haven't played it yet or being killed by it much

[frosty gorge]

yes but I only have 3 hours played on FPS games but I want to be as good as the people with 10000 hours played already reeeee

[fierce gull]

can take out a whole squad under 5 seconds if you know how to aim