battlefield-2042

[wise zodiac]

They don't have brakelights in real life... I'm prior military. Lmao.

They don't need them.

[viscid bone]

What's that? You want us to include a "Caution, vehicle is reversing" sound when reversing in a tank??? Two secs.

[cosmic radish]

When you hit level 100 you start at S001 ... pretty useless I know. There's no endgame or reward for hitting S level... they should have added reward system or credits to purchase from an exclusive store etc

[cyan stream]

On maps like Breakaway and Hourglass 64 players would be stupid. But on older Battlefield maps it's perfect. The majority of the fans want less vehicles and more gunplay. You shouldn't be getting farmed by 30mm cannons every time you try to push an objective.

[junior widget]

Ohh so ur trolling 😂

[pearl marsh]

they should offer set play lists and the ability to choose a server. Like portal but with weapon XP all they have to do is make official servers with set rules and offer XP otherwise whats the point of playing portal.

[next onyx]

Honestly that would have worked on 5 when I joined a friendly fire server, I kept on unintentionally running over teammates in a 97.

[wide shore]

Basically just colonel ranks from previous games. Nothing new there

[ornate relic]

Xero, so am I and yes they do. At least ones in the US do.

[cunning vessel]

How is it BS. The game doesn’t have nearly as many features in it as previous titles, which were QOL features. The developers keep posting on social media as if the game didn’t lose half of its player base within a week and they add shit like limited time 64 games when they should very clearly be permanent while they fix the shithole that is optimization.

[wise zodiac]

Lmao.

Just really loud beeps. And ground guides.

When reversing, just get guys to get out and ground guide them.

[gleaming oracle]

But these are not ranks just levels, ranks would of been better imo

[ornate relic]

@wise zodiac also, for an 11B I'm surprised you can read 😛

[junior widget]

Oh, u were conplaining about them having breaklights!

[cyan stream]

Imagine this

Operation Locker 2042 redux made for Breakthrough, a 64 player and 128 player version, and zero vehicles

[wide shore]

But… what’s the difference?

[wise zodiac]

I read better than Marines, that's for sure.

[cosmic radish]

Yeah, ranks would have been better and include a reward that is worth grinding. Now you can grind all ranks, badges, titles, tiers in less than a day if you farm ... Nothing special if everyone can get it by playing the game

[foggy halo]

you replied to yourself

[gleaming oracle]

The nice looking Golden Eagle

[viscid bone]

Appreciate the gesture, and don't worry, we wont, this is merely the beginning of Battlefield 2042 🙂
Thanks for being part of the journey with us, I hope you have a fantastic holiday with loved ones, and hey - stay safe out there, pandemic and all!

[cunning vessel]

We need a 2042 version of bf4s Floodzone

[next onyx]

Join military, eat yummy crayons

There are actually edible crayons by the way

Crayons ready to eat

[wide shore]

But why

[tame cobalt]

Cap harder

[cosmic radish]

Have they read the Steam reviews yet or not?

[hidden sand]

Odd to me you need feedback for Rush being a permanent mode when it's been a stable of BF since 2008. I would assume you guys have more than enough data. I appreciate you guys keeping it longer regardless.

[wise zodiac]

Yeah, they have these TINY brakelights on the A2s, never saw them used - we always ran blackout, and on the Bradley's too.

[junior widget]

Yeah, i replied to the otjer guy, but then realized what he really meant. Hence, i replied tp my repky. Forgive me i'm a bit drunk lol

[next onyx]

Why not poetic

[errant canopy]

do ppl need rush? isnt that a legacy feature?

bear in mind, most of these devs have never worked on battlefield before, or even played battlefield

[wide shore]

Well, cause, uhhh, idk. You’re right

[earnest verge]

that is verry verry clear

[ornate relic]

@wise zodiac I saw them used sometimes in IZ when they were traveling on roads during the day. It helped ensure a few people didn't get sent back to the deploy menu for getting too close.

[pearl marsh]

that game is running better a lot smoother now. they need to add more game modes that offer weapon XP. TDM, attack and defend, and include Hardcore modes like the old games.

[cosmic radish]

Why is there no reward for mastery level 30 until 100+ ?

[cunning vessel]

Then where is the scoreboard. Where is the official TDM gamemode. Where is the small conquest. Where is the squad system where you could join different squads if you’re teammates were just playing assault and not medic or support. Where is the optimisation? And if there’s to be specialists like Apex has, the character design is just absolute ass.

[cedar sandal]

Is the dev team aware of the vehicle ADS bug? It's the one issue that's pretty pervasive among everyone we play with in Hazard Zone, but there seems to be no update on the community forums on whether it's a known issue.

[earnest verge]

"Come on man, its to easy"

[wide shore]

Optimization isn’t a ”legacy feature” lol

[wise zodiac]

Yeah, during training or ops, we didn't run any sort of lights - headlights, brakelights, none of it.

It was blackout/infrared mode 24/7.

[cunning vessel]

Yep, you need that one to launch the game. I guess DICE didn’t read their checklist twice.

[viscid bone]

There's been a lot of different variations of Hardcore mode throughout the years, even wide glancing changes to it from 3 to 4. What would your Hardcore mode experience be like? Players have the ability to emulate those modes in Battlefield Portal, but when you're asking for an "Official Mode" there needs to be an understanding somewhere that 'this is it' with an exacting experience offered under the name. So, outside of say increased bullet damage, friendly fire etc, what do you want out of a Hardcore Mode?

[wise zodiac]

The overall Unit mindset was "we won't use them on deployment, don't use them while training. Train how you fight."

[wide shore]

Moving the goalposts already, are we?

[foggy halo]

@viscid bone Do you like working for dice/ea?

[hidden sand]

So odd to me that DICE appears(?) to be acting like Rush is new grounds and they're unsure of it's potential. Especially with needing more feedback for something players have loved and wanted in each game for over 10 years.

[junior widget]

I enjoy playing solo more flying choppers going through obstacles and making perfect landings on helipads lol

[ornate relic]

@cunning vessel You're just spouting junk from reddit and apparently refusing to double check to see whether it's true or not.

1. Push Tab on PC and ta-da there's a scoreboard
2. Fair, but you can create or join this on portal at any time so
3. Again, this is in Portal
4. You can join a different squad whenever you want from the squads menu
5. Optimization isn't something that just happens. It's a continual development process and they've made significant strides in that department. More will be forthcoming

[wide shore]

I’m not saying optimization shouldn’t be a top priority. It should be. But your argument was about legacy features. Optimization isn’t a legacy feature. It just seemed very out of place in your argument.

[gritty robin]

i thought i was the only one doing this lmao

[cosmic radish]

You can't expect optimization in such a game. You need both high end CPU and GPU and still don't get a smooth experience

[earnest verge]

thats a bigg load of bull lmao

[cunning vessel]

I feel as if hardcore should stay as a temporary featured gamemode and then during other times it can just stay as a portal only thing. However 64 player with smaller maps needs to be an option.

[junior widget]

Oh hey! Glad i'm not alone lol

[ornate relic]

Oh? Tell me what isn't true.

[earnest verge]

all of it

[gleaming oracle]

I haven't seen anything where you can change squads

[ornate relic]

That's completely false, you're a troll.

[wise zodiac]

Sooo, these patches they've released for balancing/bug fixes... they just don't exist?

[earnest verge]

half truths are also lies

[pearl marsh]

I would like to see no map spotting, no ping just heads up play. there should defiantly be a TDM version of this no vehicles. smaller maps that rotate off the big maps to keep it moving. something you can play competitively and bring back the scoreboard.

[ornate relic]

Press escape, select the squads submenu then right click on your name and select join new squad, click confirm.

[formal whale]

Just got my falk to tier 1

[gleaming oracle]

I'm on console

[foggy halo]

Lying by omission, also known as a continuing misrepresentation or quote mining, occurs when an important fact is left out in order to foster a misconception. Lying by omission includes the failure to correct pre-existing misconceptions.

[lofty fiber]

Anyone having issues finding a game on PC?

[ornate relic]

Same steps, different buttons.

[cosmic radish]

Most of us already moved on to another game

[wise zodiac]

No HUD, friendly fire, realistic bullet damage.

[arctic grove]

the game by itself is meh

[cunning vessel]

I’m not talking about playermade-no-xp team deathmatch. I’m talking about the official 2042 team deathmatch with xp, that you don’t need a server to find. I understand optimization is being worked on but it should have been there on release. Not everyone has a high end pc, not to mention the poor last gen gamers. The scoreboard needs critical information like kills and score to reward players with dopamine for doing well, thats basic game design and how games have operated for the last decade.

[cobalt nest]

worst thing for me is spawn points, flag placements, no cover. spawn rape. Map design is worst in any bf game.

Guns, progression, menus etc can be changed but it wont change the fact the game just is not fun.

[gleaming oracle]

I'll be having a look, sick of been in a squad thst don't PTFO

[cosmic radish]

It was the only game I looked forward to but It didn't last long....

[ornate relic]

And tacos are delicious. What's your point? Nothing I said was a half-truth.

[pearl marsh]

yes this

[earnest verge]

bein able to random back and forth between 2 squads i dont want to be in dont make any real differance

[stray bay]

Can Dice plz make the 32v32 player conquest the default conquest mode?
it runs SO much better than the garbage of 64v64

[hidden sand]

DICE did a lot of this lol, especially regarding Portal. Straatford actively attempted to mislead people on the subreddit regarding multi-era weapons in a single match of conquest. Which isn't possible as we now know.

[glass trail]

everythings a legacy feature in battlefield 2042

[wide shore]

Console player here. You can switch squads. But you can’t choose which squad you switch to. It just picks one.

[glass trail]

[cunning vessel]

Maps feel so bland and lack any personality. Like with old maps they were so much more dense with cover, little areas where skirmishes could happen. I just hope the DLC maps will be more like old maps.

[ornate relic]

The scoreboard has kills for you and your squad and generalized stats for all squads. Optimization is also not something you can really do at launch. Once a game launches everybody has to play catchup. By everybody I mean companies that create graphics cards, CPU, peripherals, etc. It's something that happens over time.

[scarlet steeple]

I miss BF4 hardcore 60 hp. Luckily we do that in portal. Now all we need is proper progression

[pearl marsh]

having the ability to pick squads and sides would be amazing!

[cobalt nest]

exactly mate. Have you seen map detail comparisons on youtube?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1uA1WR493Y&t=68s

[ebon swallow]

Game ded

[hidden sand]

Yeah, basic Squad functionality that's been around since Battlefield 2 would be nice to have again.

[gleaming oracle]

Manifest! Quality map

[glass trail]

yes

[earnest verge]

that is not how u develop games actually

[cunning vessel]

Where is the whole team scoreboard like the one featured in every god damn fps shooter ever?

[wide shore]

Manifest rocks

[cunning vessel]

I agree but it’s pretty much the only one.

[ebon swallow]

Broken

[glass trail]

cant even make a traditional scoreboard 💀

[cunning vessel]

Brokenfield.

[civic void]

Back in Nam it was 1 shot 1 kill, so I don't see why it should take 10 bullets to take someone down in the future.

[cobalt nest]

I actually like that they took out voice chat though.. noone ever used it anyway. and its kindof encouraged more of us to use discord etc

[wide shore]

Better armor, theoretically.

[cunning vessel]

I think the time to kill is too long too. But if they make it too short it may become too much like a hardcore shooter.

[ornate relic]

It's still present but the way the information is displayed has changed.

[arctic grove]

is the pp 29 still busted

[pearl marsh]

more map Hight options so I can squirrel in and shoot campers in the face.

[hidden sand]

They didn't intentionally take out VoIP though, they couldn't get it working in time.

[wide shore]

I already feel like I get 1 frame killed sometimes. Increasing the TTK is just gonna cause more frustration. I think the TTK for core is basically perfect rn

[cobalt nest]

not surprised. only good thing was by accident lol

[foggy halo]

It seems like armor always work better for enemies

[ornate relic]

I'm really excited for the day I can again hear lunatic children yelling obscenities.

[foggy halo]

So I don't use armor

[wide shore]

That’s just how it be sometimes

[cobalt nest]

I think the biggest problem with BF in general is whoever is making the decisions XD bunch of managers need sacked and let the devs do their work making it fun again.

[glass trail]

same

[burnt swan]

64 player breakthrough is fun

[hidden sand]

Armour has absolutely no place in BF game imo, didn't like it in any past iterations either. 2142s armour especially.

[earnest verge]

they did tho

[burnt swan]

64 players should be permanent until dice fixes the cpu usage and other performance issues on 128 players

[hidden sand]

They did what?

[earnest verge]

my bad, read it wrong

[cobalt nest]

yea 128 players was a mistake. not sure if they will be able to recover the game to be fun and playable. it will never look good or have the detail that bf5/1 had anyway.

[burnt swan]

^

map flows way better on 64 players honestly

[glad mulch]

I don’t understand how 128 players is bad. It’s fun.

[viral harbor]

rn i use m5a3 with smg setup i get 30+ kills ill unclock mp9 in 3 lvls do yoi reccomend me to use it?

[gleaming oracle]

It's not bad, maps just overcrowded

[ornate relic]

Well that's objectively false considering that 2042 has significantly more detail and PhysX seems baked into everything which is awesome

[burnt swan]

map flow is kinda shit on breakthrough alot of choke holds with barely any routes to flank

[hidden sand]

128 players is awful on these maps. It's harder to tell how it would be on well designed ones, but probably a lot better. These maps are not changing either, so it gets progressively worse as you play, imo.

[earnest verge]

a painting is considered beutifull cause of the art itself, not the ammount of paint u use

[jade turtle]

Me hopelessly wishing that they come out one day and say hey guys we heard you we’re gonna revamp the maps

[ornate relic]

Oh, I didn't realize the art world had decided upon a singular definition of what made a painting beautiful.

[burnt swan]

sadly thatll never happen

[mental finch]

!jumbo

[earnest verge]

u missing the point

[dapper summit]

I also enjoy abstract art. A dot on white canvas

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[mental finch]

@hidden sand really sucks too, I wanted 128 so badly

[dapper summit]

Perfection @robust ember

[cobalt nest]

its pretty obvious they arent interested in fixing any of the real issues.

[cunning vessel]

Highly agreed.

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[ornate relic]

Missiles turn meat pinatas into Jackson Pollacks. That could be fun

[wise zodiac]

What are your thoughts on a RSP system, reminiscent of BF4, @viscid bone? Seeing as how you were just interacting a few minutes ago, I'll leave you with that question and my thoughts.

I, as well as many, many others, would like a server rental feature.

Having a server rental feature will allow good communities to exist inside of the game. Good servers will have people coming back.. back to playing, seeing the same people, reminiscent of the "good ol days" of Battlefield.

It would also allow the money spent on server rentals to flow into the development of additional content, like maps.

Right now, they're just player made servers, and when the last person leaves, it's gone. Have to restart it.. there's no longer a sense of community... no way to favorite a server.. Portal isn't the same, IMO.

I'm sure there's more good that can get added to this list, and there's probably some bad too..

Some food for thought.

[cunning vessel]

Really hope so. I just want some maps with detail and character. Also maps I could run would also be nice.

[jade turtle]

Gotta hate getting blasted by 10 snipers while running on open fields

[burnt swan]

or just giving us regular classes back

[cobalt nest]

I think if they had released hazard zone as a standalone with a little bit more detail in the metagame it would have been a massive hit

[burnt swan]

legit getting 150 fps in 64 players but only 80-100 in 128 players

[junior widget]

What are the equivalent weapon to hellfire missiles on apache? The AGMs?

[cunning vessel]

The thing is, I like the guns, I just don’t like how their gunplay is. It doesn’t feel satisfying to land shots, the tactical spring makes it feel more CODish than it should and the hitmarker and kill sounds are nothing like what they should be.

[unborn drift]

Apaches carry Hellfires as well though

[earnest verge]

128 is a cool idea, but they shoulda waited to add it so we dont need to buy things that not yet exist

[junior widget]

Yeah, thats why im asking whats the equivalent of hellfire missiles in game

[cunning vessel]

Yes, would have much preferred getting 128 players down the track.

@earnest verge

[cosmic radish]

Don't expect money would go into development... We pay the price of a full and polished campaign + multiplayer game without microtransactions but we get an underdeveloped multiplayer with microtransactions and battle passes

[burnt swan]

or delayed the whole game

[earnest verge]

fo sho, i really like the idea, it just dont work atm

[jade turtle]

Would 128 players work on 64 player sized maps or it’s just gonna get too overcrowded

[earnest verge]

wish they did but that prob EA and not Dice to blame

[cedar sandal]

lol these 128 player maps work perfectly for 32 player Hazard Zone

[dire quest]

This^^ 128 players is fine...on last gen maps, large maps are awful for it

[civic void]

Hopefully 500 v 500 will be added eventually

[jade turtle]

Too much running atm

[earnest verge]

fair, the new maps took sandbox to a whole new level, litteraly a big empty sandbox

[unborn drift]

i think these: 127mm Anti-Vehicle Rocket Pack

[scarlet steeple]

CQ 128 feels empty. BT 128 is chaos I loveeeee

[devout terrace]

cant wait for the same tick servers from 2010 with 500v500

[cunning vessel]

I feel like if you gave the portal community a feature where they could design their own maps with existing models and building it would be so much better.

[midnight scaffold]

Guys how to lock vehicles with recon drone

[tame cobalt]

Make rush the flagship bf mode

[torpid shuttle]

My 24fps is fine for me.

[wide vortex]

The ultimate edition was £110 in UK pre-order, that’s just under 1/4 of the cost of a PS5 with all the hardware and development costs involved. To put out the crap they have is mugging everyone right off

[midnight scaffold]

I mean what keys to press..to lock

[cunning vessel]

Battlefield 20-42 FPS

[earnest verge]

100%, i dream about this so hard, if they made soemthing remotly similar to halo forge this game would kill it

[junior widget]

I see, but arent those more like rocket pods? I was thinking it could be the AGMs since the hellfire missles irl are designed to destroy tanks

[devout terrace]

ill get this game in a half year+ or so (so far only played on ea pro)

[wise zodiac]

Like Far Cry's map editor?

[gleaming oracle]

£110 for 1 game!

[earnest verge]

*almost 1 game

[cunning vessel]

The whole game feels like a scam. It’s disrespectful to the entire BF community.

[gleaming oracle]

That's why I went Gold edition for £90

[wide vortex]

Still consider what you got for £90, it’s crazy what they’ve charged with no campaign

[cunning vessel]

Well with no campaign you would expect a good multiplayer. But they fucked that one up too.

[gleaming oracle]

True! It's all the add ons that are upcoming you pay for

[wide vortex]

If anyone has downloaded the matrix unreal engine 5 demo you’ve seen what a next gen game should have looked like

[earnest verge]

first time in my life i payed for something im not using

[ornate relic]

They updated the models, graphics for multiple previous BFs, made it so you could play 2042 on those, created an entire visual language so people could create their own custom experiences, and all that's on top of creating a whole new battlefield game and they did all of that within 3 years. That's absolutely insane and amazing.

[mental finch]

Player owned Servers were the most important aspect to BF having such a dedicated community imo.

[arctic grove]

whats wrong with 80 fps

[wise zodiac]

Which is why we need to have that same community back, imo.

[arctic grove]

these people dont know how to be grateful fr

[tame cobalt]

Would be a nice way to make custom portal servers even worse

[cunning vessel]

First time I’ve payed for something I literally can’t use since the game’s optimization is so atrocious on 128 player aow.

[ornate relic]

I do not give a shit what a bunch of petulant children think. I like the game and think the team did a fantastic job.

[junior widget]

Just a thought, why dont dice just put in a character creator and then just let us choose different specializations/class? Im tired of seeing like 100 angels running about

[earnest verge]

again, ur the 10% here, not us

[arctic grove]

i mean i like the game because i am not having any performance issues, and i respect all of you guys that have actual issues / good criticism to the game

[gleaming oracle]

Tbh I actually like the game and enjoy playing it, I just know from previous BF titles it could be better & I'm sure with more updates it will be better

[cunning vessel]

Tunnel visioned. Stop riding your high horse and realize you can’t keep defending a multi billion dollar company. You’re the peluatant child here. The game was obviously not ready for launch. It’s ridiculously clear how outnumbered you are. Just look at the steam reviews.

[lethal junco]

What kind of specs are people running where you physically can't play the game at a reasonable fps rate?

[ornate relic]

That's the way it always goes; the initial release is never the same as the final, but people seem to only remember the final.

[cunning vessel]

1650 super with a ryzen 5 3600, a pretty midrange computer.

[wide vortex]

If you enjoy the game that’s great, sadly for many BF veterans it’s a poor game that performs badly and that they’ve charged a premium for

[earnest verge]

5k pc for me

[wise zodiac]

This will be my only warning to the ongoing conversation here.

If you're going to do nothing but insult people and post hateful rhetoric, things like "this game trash" over and over with no useful feedback, you won't be here very long.

If you can't respect someone else's opinions, and allow them to enjoy the game, we will have problems.

[olive lake]

I don't care how bug ridden this game might be. I just want progression in Solo/Co-op again. That's all I care about. I was having fun when everything was unlockable and there was nothing disabled.

[summer dagger]

I for one ,like the game,not as good as bf4 but feel it wont be that long until it gets sustancialy better.

[lethal junco]

What the fuck did you buy that cost you 5k?

[cosmic radish]

Ryzen 5 3600 is too weak for this game, even with 5600X there is a big CPU bottleneck for me

[arctic grove]

thank god

[earnest verge]

everything you can spend money on

[lethal junco]

Nah, like what are your specs

[gleaming oracle]

Every BF title released has had launch issues

[arctic grove]

theres a difference between useless complaining and feedback

[burnt swan]

no one cares

[unborn drift]

ah fair point, i think you're right

[lethal junco]

Have you dropped 2.5k on RGB strips or some shit?

[olive lake]

Sometimes it really does feel like my feedback means absolutely fuck all.

[arctic grove]

i care

[earnest verge]

yes but it didnt give me more fps im affraid

[karmic shore]

The game is going to get better I don't doubt that. But I do agree no launch should be like this.

[jovial jay]

wow I just had a 64 lobby and everyone feedback was they fuggin love it

[summer dagger]

Reviews are honestly incredibly biased

[burnt swan]

[gleaming oracle]

I've played every BF title since BC and not 1 has ever released with no issues! Did people seriously think 2042 would be any different?

[cunning vessel]

Mate, @ornate relic is calling people pelutant children. I get you have to defend dice since you basically control their discord, but I’m only saying what the rest of the community is saying. I just want to be heard. Thanks.

[olive lake]

I do know I am on the same mindset of others though who want nothing more than to fully progress with AI only as the game had promised. It was the only way I can enjoy this game but no matter how much we ask, nothing gets addressed.

[jovial jay]

128 truly is the worst idea when it comes to performance and enjoyment

[lethal junco]

I personally enjoyed 128 players and the performance between 64 and 128 hasn't been that significant for me client side

[short dome]

64 lobbies on current map size? Seems would be more of a sandbox, no?

[cunning vessel]

Really not. From the thousands of people who bought the game and were severely disappointed, I would imagine the game would get serious backlash.

[junior widget]

Oooh feisty

[gritty robin]

i think hes talking about ign and the "professional reviewers"

[summer dagger]

When I bought it ,with the reviews i tought it wouldve a cyberpunk 2.0

[cunning vessel]

Yes, which is why there should be an official medium conquest mode like the ones being made on portal, we just need an official xp-giving 64 player playlist.

[wise zodiac]

I don't have to defend anyone. I am here to enforce the rules of this discord.

You can post criticism all day long and I won't bat an eye, however, the minute that insults start flying, or there's no actual feedback other than the same old, "fuck dice, this game trash", we will have problems.

Have I made myself abundantly clear on that?

[lethal junco]

Yes daddy

[cunning vessel]

Sorry, @gritty robin just told me what you meant. I 100% agree with you. It’s like they haven’t used social media and looked at the game for the last 3 weeks.

[olive lake]

Its one thing to have a game filled with bugs and issues, I expect that to get fixed in due time. But its entirely another thing to promise a feature before launch, have it around for day 1 and then remove it immediately and say nothing about it. Its just the lowest of the low

[indigo needle]

Every review is subjective. It doesn't matter how many followers anyone has or who writes it, it really doesn't say anything

[ornate relic]

I don't care how much money the company makes or has, that's absolutely irrelevant. You have no concept of what makes something ready to launch. I do not care how outnumbered I am, that's utterly meaningless. Also, I did look at the reviews and those having +=25hrs the game standing at >50% reviewing the game favorably.

[short dome]

I havent had any issues on 128 lobbies. Large map size is annoying to run across but just add more transport options. Or more capture points in sectors. So they flip more frequently

[earnest verge]

it kinda does when its overwhelmingly one sided, that is verry rare about anything in the world

[junior widget]

Meh, thats why i dont look at reviews. It clouds ur judgement. I buy, play, then judge myself. If i enjoy it, despite the bugs and issues then i keep on playing it and maybe leave some feedback.

[summer dagger]

Yeah im not saying is perfect, i am disappointed that i can never get to see the deployment with more than 64 bits on the map.

[mental finch]

We do. I 100% agree. There are several Groups of like over 100 people that also agree with you, which makes it all the more frustrating. Despite their reputations, Imagine how active a TBG. Or a WHG. Server could be in this game? Idk, I feel like BF has taken several steps to lower the feeling of freedom it had over other shooters, and removing server hosting was another one of those steps (They got rid of them starting in BF1 right?), whether they are intentional steps or not. Well, the Browser is the real kicker, the server Browser is what helps BF games have longevity…. Like…. That’s a fact. Having a Browser that only works for matches with an XP cap, that a majority of people don’t even understand, is like…. The opposite of a quality of life feature

[ornate relic]

The game was review bombed on steam.

[arctic grove]

I bet everyone is saying now “why limited bruh just put it forever in”

[stark cipher]

Wait? 64 gamemode (new one) still using same maps?

[junior widget]

Yeah, but smalller

[lethal junco]

The maps are altered in the same way they are zoned on breakthrough

[stark cipher]

[cedar sandal]

The bugs in this game hold it back a little bit, but as a Battlefield fan who hates everything they've released in the past decade, I like the BF2042 return to the game franchise's roots. Overall it's a great concept, I love the changes they made to the stale formula, and I hope they continue to support the game.

[wide vortex]

Maybe because those are ones who didn’t sack it early because there were huge problems -like no f**kin comms. In what universe do you launch a squad based game where you can’t move around to join your squad and then have no comms either?

[olive lake]

I gave the game a negative review entirely for justified reasons. Going back on a promised feature is awful and without said feature, the game kinda sucks now

[lethal junco]

The only problem with the new 64 mode is that there's less shit for me to try and farm vehicle with my jets 😦 1200 vehicles is a big number

[foggy halo]

I think they plan to release an inf only map as a surprise
Will bring a lot of attention to the game

[lethal junco]

Operation metro 2

[burnt swan]

hope that map has alot of cover

[olive lake]

I just want this game to be better again. I just want the dev team to fucking listen and I just want to have the same fun and satisfaction I had when I played on day 1

[woven acorn]

wonder if this 64 player mode is them testing to see if they messed up with 128 players and if people prefer 64 🤔

[short dome]

Oh 64v64 =128 duh. Im thinking they reduced down to 32v32 again for new modes

[junior widget]

Are u talking about the "progression on all games modes including portal"?

[mental finch]

Are you talking about the XP cap?

[woven acorn]

they didnt?

[lethal junco]

The biggest issue I can think of them maintaining 128 players as their only option is the netcode issues causing the hitreg fuckups that have been ongoing

[stark cipher]

I like 128 players but maps and etc made them worse..

[burnt swan]

thats all he cries about not being able to farm bots

[short dome]

Idk now Im confused lol

[civic void]

The tornado is better than levelution. The tornado really changes the battle up and can switch who's winning

[junior widget]

Well, its either go big or go 64 players lol

[woven acorn]

why would they make an announcement if its still 128 players? your post makes no sense, of course its been reduced to 32 v 32

[olive lake]

Yes and yes @junior widget but I speak more so on the part of AOW Solo/Co-op. There are so many ways they can cap the XP while keeping everything unlockable and the fact they just peaced out and have said nothing pisses me off to the core.

[stark cipher]

No 6 squad mates, and no classes limited for balances..

[junior widget]

I'm with u here

[olive lake]

All they need to do is cap the max XP earned per match. What that means is ribbons can stay, mastery can stay and everything can just be unlocked as promised.

[gritty robin]

now this is a hot take 🍿

[earnest verge]

honestly im confused to why they even removed it, the "cheaters" already cheater, and we that just want to play are the ones that got the short end of the stick

[stark cipher]

Why the fuck xp farm exist? But not previous games? (Maybe I miss it or not)

[stiff spruce]

2042 is going for $29.99 now rip

[wise zodiac]

The thing that kinda annoys me, in a way, is how almost a decade ago, MAG released with 256 players in a game... on PS3....

How can we not achieve the SAME level of content on a system 10, 15, 20x as powerful???

[bold parcel]

https://youtu.be/bgr2OZiS8xQ finally

[burnt swan]

battlefield hardline used to have farming servers for completing assignments not the first time this happened

[stark cipher]

Wait what’s MAG?

[olive lake]

PvE getting fucked over isn't a rare occurrence sadly. Happened more times than I can count. But actually promising progression for PvE and cutting on that promise is not fucking okay and we need to be heard.

[gritty robin]

not everyone has time to play all day tbh

[stark cipher]

What’s first battlefield that started xp farm?

[wide vortex]

Lazy coding, it’s the same in every electronic device, app, etc these days. Bloated programming everywhere

[wise zodiac]

"Massive Action Game" was a 1st person shooter.

[burnt swan]

no clue bro

[wise zodiac]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAG_(video_game)

[stark cipher]

Holy fuck, 256 players with 6-10 squad mates..

[wise zodiac]

So, over a decade ago now.

[gritty robin]

remember plantside 2 lol

[earnest verge]

Honest question, why is xp farming a problem when there is no official competetive scene or leaderboards anyway. I rather have the farmers bein able to farm just so they can let me level normaly on portal

[reef kestrel]

Planetside 2 was ahead in time

[stark cipher]

Yes 400 vs 400

[ancient lance]

Planetside 3 when

[reef kestrel]

500 vs 500

[stark cipher]

I never forget about that..

There’s one video that it has 800 vs 800

[foggy halo]

Because they get to higher levels that unlocks things before everyone else

[arctic grove]

Which is best muzzle for pkp?

[olive lake]

Literally to fix the farming problem, they just need to set it so the weaker the AI the more reduced XP and capped stuff will be.

[reef kestrel]

They are still releasing content in planetside 2 and a new region is coming.

[ancient lance]

Oh pog

[scarlet steeple]

Console controlled environment

[earnest verge]

yeah but again, they already did it, and now its even worse cause i cant unlock anything and they still have everything

[lethal junco]

Can you not still farm to mastery 12 in co op vs ai?

[ornate relic]

You can on solo mode.

[arctic grove]

Which vis best magzine qnd muzzel is best for pkp

[gritty robin]

is there a difference between the muzzles, looking at the in game stats they do the same thing

[stark cipher]

@wise zodiac damn you.. now I feel depressing for not playing that game..

[arctic grove]

I need for best recoil

[earnest verge]

i didnt buy a multiplayer only mode to farm bots in singleplayer

[wise zodiac]

Sorry

[graceful nimbus]

wheres the battlefield 4 channel

[stark cipher]

[scarlet steeple]

It's not difficult to do, but when PC comes in the game...

I thought 64p was awesome back in 2002

[olive lake]

Mastery T1 should be unlockable but if they wanna be picky about it, they could literally make it so easy bots are capped at T3 while normal is T2 and maybe T1 while hard is guaranteed T1 progression.

[junior widget]

I find the horizontal recoil muzzles mdore helpful, since vertical recoil u can easily negate by pulling down

[earnest verge]

Is there any updates on whatever they will and if so when, we will be able to unlock in portal? if any1 seen somethin ive not

[ornate relic]

I get that. Personally, I'm not fond of "go farm solo" as the answer either. I'd like to see XP enabled on portal again. To get rid of farming servers I'd like them to set it so that if your map significantly reduces HP, weapons etc for one side and you're using bots then it wouldn't give XP, but otherwise would.

[olive lake]

Nope they haven't said fuck all.

[gritty robin]

the next update is coming next year

[olive lake]

AOW Solo/Co-op left in the darkest of dark most of all.

[arctic grove]

Tnx

[wise zodiac]

#battlefield-legacy-titles

[mental finch]

No, it simply needed to be changed where PVE and PVP were different things. There is no reason why players should be able to level up for PVP by never playing a PVP match.

[lethal junco]

^

[earnest verge]

exactly, i really dont care if people botfarm or whatever they wanna waste their time doing. I just want to play the mode i like and progress. I bealive most people would feel the same

[olive lake]

Disagree because PvE is a feature they promised and sold as a selling point so that is invalid.

[lethal junco]

But PvE is a feature and you can grind attachment mastery on PvE so it's not invalid

[kind hedge]

when does the next preseason weekly challenges start?

[olive lake]

Yeah. ATTACHMENT MASTERY. That's not EVERYTHING

[quartz furnace]

why? it's not like the level you are matters other than having shit unlocked, the real 5 head take is that guns and other weapons shouldn't be locked behind levels in the first place it's a stupid system

[wise zodiac]

I think people should be able to progress however they'd like, so long as there is no cheating or exploits used.

[lethal junco]

You shouldn't be able to unlock Tier 1 because you played 3 matches of Co Op vs AI

[gleaming oracle]

Yes you can, but they stated full progression not half

[earnest verge]

yeah that i did see. no holliday bf with my father and brothers is a real bummer

[olive lake]

Precisely this, thank you.

[wise zodiac]

I can progress in an MMO the same way. PvE content, PvP content - end results are the same.

[quartz furnace]

every gun should be available to people from the start it makes 0 fucking sense to have it locked behind levels other than as part of a future monetization scheme

[junior widget]

Whats the big deal with bot farming anyways? Its not like an mmorpg game where unfair progression gives u advantage.

[wise zodiac]

Questing, dungeons, arena, battlegrounds - you progress the same.

[olive lake]

That's how it should be. PvP should stop coming first if there's a option for PvE. If it wants to be PvP focused, fine. But don't punish those who prefer the other option.

[wise zodiac]

You gain experience either way.

[scarlet steeple]

In MMOs, you don't generally farm forever in one spot. That was ages ago with SWG or WoW, even. XP should stay on if bot hp and etc isn't touched. If you alter bot hp to 1 and give them no weapons, XP should go off.

[ornate relic]

Before they disabled xp in portal the portal menu was absolutely clogged with XP farming servers. It was difficult to find anything else

[junior widget]

Shooter games are meant to have assorted guns anyways

[spring lance]

^^^

[civic void]

I miss that game. As gimmicky as it was. It was just fun

[wise zodiac]

I agree.

[olive lake]

Portal was rightfully capped. I won't deny that but to cap AOW Solo/Co-op is contradictional.

[earnest verge]

that reason to remove it i can 100% get behind, but it still hurt a large part of the community and that is verry unfortunate

[woven acorn]

the bug where you can't exit your vehicles is incredibly annoying. cant believe its still in the game

[wise zodiac]

If you manipulate the health/damage outputs, it should negate any progression, IMO.

[cedar sandal]

Just filter out servers with the name XP in the server browser and let people solo farm lol

[gritty robin]

this

[scarlet steeple]

I agree with that too. Solo should give XP. Some people DO play alone or with their kids.

[wise zodiac]

But if you leave it alone, don't change any settings, and just go play.. who cares?

[olive lake]

Sadly PvP Elitists care.

[wise zodiac]

Portal shouldn't be capped, if no settings are changed.

[civic void]

I think there's only like 5 people that play solo

[quartz furnace]

I mean this game doesn't really have PvE it's just multiplayer against bots...

[woven acorn]

i agree, farming doesn't belong in the game imo. Although I have increased damage for both teams on my bc2 server just because I felt like it was more accurate to bc2

[gleaming oracle]

Half of the mastery T1 most PVP players have come from farming bots in early access

[olive lake]

And they're high in number nowadays. There's nothing wrong with liking PvP but when you put skill ahead of everything else and have problems with people who like fighting AI then...You're a pain in the ass basically

[mental finch]

Okay, I can agree with that, @olive lake as long as you weren’t exploiting, I don’t view you as part of the problem

I was just projecting because XP farmers caused the XP cap in Portal….. and I only used custom Portal for BF3 guns in BF2402 maps

And if I’m being fair, with my past logic, that would entail that level progression should be 100% exclusive to the 2042 guns

Alright @wise zodiac , You got me

[scarlet steeple]

I'm no dev, but implementing a toggle on and off for XP on portal is doable with altering bot hp etc. Like come on.

[earnest verge]

It would be interessting to see player count compare, before and after when they finnaly unlock prog in portal, I know my whole community waiting for this one thing and non of us cared one bit bout other ppl doing farming servers

[olive lake]

No I absolutely don't wanna exploit or cheat the system. I genuinely wanna play the game the way its meant to with AI only. That's it

[arctic grove]

That's what PvE is.

[civic void]

That requires some quite advanced AI to achieve

[arctic grove]

You can buy vanguard and play against AI 😂

[mental finch]

From what I’ve heard, not letting you progress that way is actually a hindrance because they made the AI so much more smart. So yeah, I can’t argue with your complaints, they are valid.

[quartz furnace]

it might take them 5 years to implement that and they'd probably have to cut out conquest to implement this massive feature /s

[olive lake]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/qv84io/bring_back_normal_xp_and_mastery_unlocks_now_for/ You may wanna start counting to be sure if that is 5 people

[wise zodiac]

Why should I care what 5%, maybe 10% of the population cares about?

I spent my $$ just like they did, to play how I want to play.

If I want to progress in a bot only environment, I should be allowed to do so. However, if I change the core settings to manipulate health & damage, it should stop any progression.

[scarlet steeple]

Yup

[olive lake]

This this so fucking much this. THANK YOU

[earnest verge]

pause the bot function, not the prog function

[olive lake]

I wish PvP players had this mindset instead of having a problem with people enjoying the game in another way.

[quartz furnace]

I don't even think it should stop progression, level isn't indicative of anything and most of the unlocks that matter are tied to actually doing things like getting kills etc.

[civic void]

The AI can easily be farmed in solo. Even on the hardest difficulty, the AI is just too easy to take advantage of

[simple iron]

have they fixed the fov bug where it goes to 60 whenever ur climbing a ladder

[olive lake]

I just wish EA and DICE would listen to us. We're giving valid feedback here.

[wise zodiac]

Progression includes vehicles, attachments, unlocks, etc.

[gleaming oracle]

I prefer PVP over PVE but playing the game against AI and progressing I don't give a damn about. I mean it's only a black and red symbol on your player card who actually gives a f××k

[quartz furnace]

I'm of the opinion that all of these things should be available from the start if we actually want the game to be balanced I think the entire system of unlocking guns and attachments is a "legacy feature" that should have actually been dropped from the game

[wise zodiac]

If I'm getting my ass beat in multiplayer by a pilot who has a tier 1 helicopter, and my helicopter isn't even leveled up, how am I going to beat them?

If I go into a solo/bot session, level up my vehicle, I stand a better chance now going against this player.

[indigo needle]

Like I've said before, seperate solo from multiplayer and let there be full progression on both, everyone wins.

[summer dagger]

Its balanced level unlocks new weapons and equipment, and the kills gives you equipment for those weapons.

[civic void]

Leveling through PvE is basically stolen valor

[earnest verge]

personally i really like unlocking things for my guns and geting some new gadgets with higher rank

[quartz furnace]

give everyone the same helicopter from the start, this is going to be a problem for any new player and it's going to cut the amount of people willing to pick up the game later

[gleaming oracle]

This is not what was advertised

[uncut bay]

that'll happen regardless to literally everyone that picks up a helicopter for the first time. If you want to use bots to even the playing field then so be it, it should be free game

[wise zodiac]

No it's not, and don't even equate that.

[cedar sandal]

I don't think they'll turn on Portal progression anytime soon because there will always be a way to farm on custom servers because they haven't figured out how to have progression in a match itself only apply to certain players. Basically, bots can't be different progression-wise compared to players.

Even if they disable XP on servers that have custom HP/dmg modification, it'd be trivial to have portal rules that remove weapons for bots and spawn them in front of me. Even if they disable asymmetric weapons, I can make portal rules that respawn 30 bots into water in front of me if they don't quickly crouch-uncrouch at spawn.

[junior widget]

My point is, its a skill based game anyways (aside from ranger and boris turret). So no matter how fast those farmers unlock attachments and weapons, they dont really get any advantage.

[scarlet steeple]

Yeah, oh how we miss OG BF

[olive lake]

That might be the dumbest statement I've read tonight. Thus you prove my point of skill over fun.

[arctic grove]

Kind of disagree.

[indigo needle]

No, but it would be a solution that would end this discussion once and for all.

[uncut bay]

this, attachments and equipment unlocks can be done extremely quickly and are hardly even relevant to the solo/coop discussions

[olive lake]

Which that shouldn't be the way. If you wanna put skills above all, that's for ranked stuff. But at the end of the day, some people are here to have fun

[earnest verge]

but here is the thing, if bots are the problem (or rather having them on 1 hp) you target that, not the prog itself, or am i missing something?

[gleaming oracle]

I can't actually believe people are bothered if some1 has a black and red symbol on there player card just because it didn't come from pvp

[wise zodiac]

It doesn't matter.

[cosmic radish]

The levelling and progression is already way too easy in normal AOW. There's no reason to keep playing when you get mastery level 30 and/or S-levels ...

[hard ravine]

Just make bot xp gains much lower for unlocks when playing with ai

[scarlet steeple]

If you play only for ranks and numbers, then I guess?

[indigo needle]

Some people like playing against bots, why not let them do so?

[olive lake]

Also just as I'm posting this. The fucking irony. I posted to EA Help about the progression cap BS and it took them a whole week to get back to me with a response.

[cosmic radish]

No, what's so special about a rank if anyone can get it by just playing the game?

[arctic grove]

Yea there’s a lot of ways to manipulate the bots to get xp faster than in multiplayer

[earnest verge]

to be fair though they prob never had so much to reply to ever before

[gritty robin]

never seen so many people care for solo? just give them their xp? doesnt affect pvp

[quartz furnace]

there is nothing special about a rank, it's just equal to how much of your life you wasted playing this game

[civic void]

They've got bigger things to take care of over PvE which isn't important

[paper pollen]

EA owed u a fucking response immediately. real time.

[cosmic radish]

Everyone except DICE knows people would abuse the XP system, with or without external mods/cheats.

[uncut bay]

nothing. Nothing is special about a rank. If your value in-game comes from the number next to your name then you should probably shift priorities around

[scarlet steeple]

Idk, I leave 'ranks' to competitive games and what not.

[wise zodiac]

I wonder if I made a post on the forums, if I posted the link here, who would actually go and reply to it.

[olive lake]

And all they had was this to say: 'Hi there, thanks for reaching out to us on Battlefield 2042. Sorry that you are still seeing areas of improvement with the game and we're actively working to acknowledge and take in that feedback. If you've not already, please provide this feedback on our forums' like as if there wasn't enough feedback requesting progression be uncapped on PvE

[scarlet steeple]

Pretty much.

[quartz furnace]

The "tags" are the only thing that actually show any kind of skill/prestige in this game

[gritty robin]

BF = competitive? you sure?

[indigo needle]

People care about a lot of things. I enjoy playing against AI just as much as playing against people.

[civic void]

They probably put that in the feedback bin

[earnest verge]

it used to be, just not via the official channel

[mental finch]

If HP is lowered on Bots, XP should be disabled

Boom…. Problem solved

[gleaming oracle]

Me personally, T1 through solo I couldn't care less.

[gritty robin]

that is true

[cyan stream]

We need to start a petition to add a Operation Locker 2042 tdm mode. Not as a temporary feature either.

[junior widget]

Just saying, if its really a skill based game. Everthing should be unlocked from the get go. Nothing should be locked behind progression (aside from cosmetic stuffs) in the first place, just look at MOBA games for example.

[arctic grove]

it's worth doing to get more feedback on the thread

[cedar sandal]

That would be ideal

[olive lake]

Content gating should be abolished. Nobody should be punished for playing a game differently to someone else

[civic void]

Even with AI at full health and on the hardest difficulty, mowing down the AI with vehicles is way too easy.

[olive lake]

So long as said playing method isn't exploitative and unfair.

[earnest verge]

They should do a vote on twitter and discord etc, do you care about ppl farming bots, should we disable prog for this reason, yes or no. Wambam we have our answer

[steep dune]

I think the game is getting better wtf no voip still yet? Escape from Tarkov just got VOIP but this game doesnt?

[cedar sandal]

BF1942 didn't even have progression. All games should be like that.

[wise zodiac]

But, then you get into the issue of "LaCkInG cOnTeNt"

[gritty robin]

i think solo should have their xp. really doesnt affect pvp imo

[quartz furnace]

based take

[cedar sandal]

They keep making these silly changes to the franchise that people never asked for. Just give people everything like in BF1942.

[olive lake]

Thank you. There really needs to be more people with your mindset.

[scarlet steeple]

I miss the simple shooting, dying, respawning and repeat without all the bloatware

[cyan stream]

I just want an infantry only tdm or rush mode. Maybe 64 players on a redux of Operation Locker.

[cedar sandal]

Progression is not Battlefield.

[wise zodiac]

Same.

[quartz furnace]

if the game was good that wouldn't be an issue, look at CS, also if the game was like those older games where the community could make mods and custom maps/modes then this also wouldn't be an issue

[arctic grove]

Think the leveling up requirements is a bit excessive, but I also understand there isn’t that much content as well

[hard ravine]

Solo and pvp xp should have seperated from the start like cod does im fairly certain

[errant canopy]

bruh i just want to try out and use all the attachments i frigging paid for

[tired flume]

guys i am thinking of buying BF2042. where can I check if my laptop can run it

[foggy halo]

Helicopters that get damaged don’t have damage sound sometimes

[quartz furnace]

the issue of a lack of content would be completely solved by letting people make mods for the game, look at GTA V

[wise zodiac]

I mean, you give me the map editor from Far Cry.. we'll be good.

[arctic grove]

Sound design definitely needs some work

[scarlet steeple]

That will never happen lol

[olive lake]

That's more so zombies, but yeah.

[cedar sandal]

Portal is already getting pretty close to mods tbh

[gritty robin]

uhhh i would hold off if you have a laptop ngl

[junior widget]

Its not "lacking content".. its "lacking revenue from what we get to sell later on" ---- shortcut packs

[earnest verge]

i dissagree, its not the ammount of time to unlock that make those players wish for more, its that there is verry little ammount of content at all, i love unlocking stuff, but i wouldnt mind no unlocks if there was lots of things to try out

[scarlet steeple]

Haha

[quartz furnace]

Yeah EA would rather have a monopoly on the development of a game so that they can spend 3 years making a game with 7 maps and 2 game modes, lmao

[cedar sandal]

Portal allows gameplay mods. People are already making some pretty cool stuff in Portal like the tarkov-like game mode and the wingsuit trainer

[gritty robin]

you cant spell steal with EA

[hard ravine]

I miss preston man wheres my bc3 story vince z

[wise zodiac]

Then we circle back around to the Rental Server Program - people renting servers = revenue for more content.

[scarlet steeple]

Yah maybe. I miss boats and mortars and dirtbikes and all the other things to try lol

[tired flume]

awww ok, guess i will wait then. My Laptop i9-9900k, 32GB RAM, GTX1080 might not cut it I guess 😦

[solid hull]

Battlefield 2042 is literally trash

[mental finch]

Yeah, I’m torn on the this

I don’t necessarily think everything should be unlocked from the beginning, because I like unlocking things

Having an in-game currency for weapons is a system I’m not Opposed to

So long as EA can resist monetizing the currency, and make earning it in game borderline impossible

[solid hull]

Refunded that garbage game

[civic void]

I think it's fine if they disable the XP cap in a few years when the next Battlefield comes out. Then people won't complain because the competitive players will be moving to the new one and the PvE players can get xp in 2042

[tired flume]

all i want is to get that BF 1942 experience

[arctic grove]

Is that the only way for them to get revenue properly?

[quartz furnace]

EA could sell a monthly subscription to a software development kit so devs could make mods for the game then let people host their own servers, there is still a revenue stream then

[wise zodiac]

They won't demonetize anything. Greed wins out.

[earnest verge]

variation is always a good thing, keep people invested and curios. But SUPER solid gameplay trumps all in the end, just look how popular BC series was

[outer tiger]

why is 2042 movement like really robotic and clunky feeling?

[solid hull]

The released a trash buggy boring game with no vehicles or maps. Flat field maps. No voice chat. Most garbage battlefield game ever

[echo yew]

idk but it was amazing in the beta

[arctic grove]

Never heard that before

[gritty robin]

did not know you have these specs, your cpu is good. sure if you want to play portal

[wise zodiac]

Ok. Got anything constructive to add?

[outer tiger]

despite that,i like the atmosphere building of the world (not the levolutions) it is wuite immersive

[civic void]

Have you tried upgrading your PC?

[solid hull]

They flushed battlefield down the toilet

[wise zodiac]

Ok. Since you don't have constructive feedback...

[mental finch]

Well, as long as it’s able to be earned in game at a non excruciating rate, making unlocks be part of a currency is system I would support

[echo yew]

also why is discarded still not removed from the game, shits the video game worst map i have ever played, MW19 maps are excellent compared to discarded's bullshit

[solid hull]

I have a 3070 with 32gb of ram bro and a 1tb ssd

[outer tiger]

fr?

[scarlet steeple]

I get fussy when I see the warships when the game is connecting online and the nice looking water. Like, where's our naval battles?! Tease!!!!!

[earnest verge]

be kind ppl are frustrated and maybe he was not here for the warning, make a pin

[arctic grove]

I full on expect us to get dope naval battles if they add a flood

[civic void]

He should have read the terms and conditions

[cedar sandal]

Battlefield 1942 didn't have voice chat. Voice chat is not Battlefield.

[solid hull]

I refunded my game because it took two hours to make the settings even work

[earnest verge]

mayb, but frustration brings out the worst in us all

[indigo needle]

There is a pin, maybe people should learn how to read.

[outer tiger]

omfg,it's a discord gc

[earnest verge]

fair lmao

[mental finch]

For the amount of time Ive spent staring at a goddamn ship that isn’t even in the game…… they fucking better bring it with the Naval battles

[solid hull]

I know can you chill like am I not allowed to state this game has issues. What team shooter in 2021 doesn’t have voice chat

[wise zodiac]

@earnest verge it is a pin.

[civic void]

Well you didn't get to play the actual game then. You only managed to change the settings before refunding it so you can't really judge it based on that.

[arctic grove]

[solid hull]

Nope I had 11 hours

[cedar sandal]

Battlefield 1942 doesn't have voice chat and it's still playable in 2021.

[scarlet steeple]

Yah a flood would be so awesome, like land play switching to sea play, whaaaaat

[arctic grove]

How the story switches up now

[solid hull]

Steam refunded me the game because even they knew it was trash

[outer tiger]

holy fucken shitto,that would've been dope

[mental finch]

Bruh…. RIGHT?!

[arctic grove]

I hope they keep 64 player matches on current-gen and PC for all the people that like it, but not having a front line and not knowing where the enemy is coming from and ending up getting shot from all directions compared to the organized chaos of 128 player is just total ass.

[scarlet steeple]

[civic void]

You gotta give constructive criticism. They made a rule about it.

[fiery shoal]

people really dont care about ACTUALLY having VOIP, they are basically just memeing one a basic feature thats "missing" even though no one uses it

[outer tiger]

mans woke up and chose violence

[hidden sand]

Are you trolling? Or genuinely comparing a 20 year old game to the most recent one that should have the innovation and improvements they've made over the last 20 years?

[earnest verge]

well if u refounded you can actually go ahead and play something else, complaining is reserved for paying customers

[arctic grove]

[solemn idol]

They honestly should remove BF2042 from steam

[cedar sandal]

BF3 is the best selling Battlefield and it didn't have voice chat

[mental finch]

BF4 did this so well, I was 100% expecting shit like it in this game

[outer tiger]

Bf 1 doesn't have voice chat too if i remember

[solemn idol]

it did

[gritty robin]

we do a little bit of trolling

[hidden sand]

Yeah 100% trolling

[indigo needle]

I have never heard anyone say a word when playing BF, I certainly don't miss that feature.

[outer tiger]

i have 150 hours into it.What

[civic void]

People didn't seem to care about voip in the previous games very much.

[jade grotto]

Last night I was making callouts in chat, wish there was voip 😔

[outer tiger]

[fiery shoal]

out of maybe 600 hours in bf titles, ive heard maybe 10 people use VOIP...

[arctic grove]

Yea

[scarlet steeple]

Let's hope we get it

[outer tiger]

oh my 600 hours my guy

[solemn idol]

this game made me reinstall planetside 2

[fiery shoal]

thats across bf3/4/1/v... its really not a lot

[arctic grove]

Same. I can probably count on one hand how many times I've heard people use voice chat since BC2.

[outer tiger]

Oh

[indigo needle]

It's like trying to play with a kid's toy they haven't touched in forever, as soon as something is not there people rant about it even though most never used it to begin with.

[jade grotto]

Like I would love just to be able to use voip to be like “Any Angels that can call in a drop? I need ammo…”

[cedar sandal]

I'm just saying it doesn't make sense to say this isn't Battlefield because it doesn't have voice chat, a feature that isn't in plenty of other Battlefield games

[left kraken]

64 or 128?

[foggy halo]

VOIP is for the immersion

[quartz furnace]

I used voice all the time to tell team mates to get into cover so I can spawn on them

[fiery shoal]

well it seems like a vast majority of people dont care for immersion in bf titles, at least the people in my squads

[arctic grove]

Get a kid screaming in my ears, I’m so immersed

[outer tiger]

i don't even know we had voip lmao wtf

[mental finch]

Yes it did

[hidden sand]

I mean they didn't intentionally remove VOIP anyway, they just couldn't get it working in time.

[jade grotto]

Yeah as someone who has PTFO’d since the start, VOIP was awesome

[arctic grove]

Yeah the lack of children screaming in my ear is a huge plus.

[wise zodiac]

Or, those with shit mics.

[gritty robin]

its kinda hard to put VOIP when EA is rushing DICE to hit those deadlines

[mental finch]

Every BF since BF2 has had VOIP

[fiery shoal]

like the other day i was playing infinite someone had a shit static mic but they had music going the whole time so it never stopped

[civic void]

It's like horders. You try to take that one thing away from them that they never used and they get upset. Yeah, Voip would be good but people are making it out to be the end of the gaming industry because it doesn't have it.

[jade grotto]

So I wonder if it’s true that they only developed this game across 18 months and it started as a BR

[earnest verge]

i can buy redbull or i can buy new mic, i made my choice

[indigo needle]

I do understand how it can be useful but there are alternatives that are probably a lot better.

[quartz furnace]

what if I told you it's possible to mute people with shit mics?

[ionic adder]

You could always mute, so having voip takes nothing away from you.

[arctic grove]

Nobody uses it anyway.

[fiery shoal]

because firestorm was such a success and they would love to compete with themselves against apex...

[wise zodiac]

Oh god. I can't stand that...

If I wanted to listen to music, I'd go put some on.

[foggy halo]

🤔 Didn't think about it

[slim mesa]

never used voip in BF games only place i would need it would be HZ if i played that mode

[cedar sandal]

No, it does not. The Battlelog plugin is an optional add-on.

[jade grotto]

Firestorm was actually pretty good. The problem was the WW2 era

[fiery shoal]

HZ not having voip is actually a problem

[indigo needle]

The best thing is those who has the volume at max while also having a kid screaming in the background

[ionic adder]

Lol, you don't play alot squad based games with multiplat groups now do you

[wise zodiac]

If I wanted to listen to shitty mic noises AND music, I'd go listen to someone on autotune...

[arctic grove]

People bitch about features being taken out that nobody ever used in the first place and act like they're on to some huge conspiracy.

Firestorm was alright. Should’ve made it free to play and it would’ve stood a chance

[naive yarrow]

jus saw the tweet that says 2042 will have 64 player modes,they should keep it in the game as an option

[fiery shoal]

i LOVED fs duo, i have like 50 hours in it, the ww2 was not the problem though

[gritty robin]

you talking about travis

[mental finch]

Which…. LITERALLY…..Means it had the option for VOIP

[quartz furnace]

I think I played firestorm twice and the looting was terrible

[wise zodiac]

I'm talking about everything that isn't rock & roll. 🤣

[jade grotto]

It was for me. I love BR’s when done right(Apex) and I would have loved a modern combat battlefield BR 😔

[mental finch]

Played that game on 360 btw, and it had VOIP, which is ESSENTIAL for console

[hidden sand]

Or maybe people just wanted those standard features to be present. Not a hard concept to grasp.

[cedar sandal]

You have the option to use discord in BF2042 then.
BF3 simply doesn't include VOIP as a feature.

[naive yarrow]

i mean why tf is a scoreboard,squad changing and gamechat,suppression and most the other basic things taken out ?

[fiery shoal]

looting and pacing was really bad, being behind a paywall and coming after launch are the main problems imo

[arctic grove]

Doesn't make a difference. Game chat is always shit quality to begin with. I just use Discord (or Xbox party chat) if I want to squad up. Never had an issue.

[mental finch]

On the console version it did though…. Which again… is essential for console

[slim mesa]

i think ppl they marketed to from other fps games are more ranking no voip as a problem whereas for previous bf players no scoreboard is much higher priority

[wise zodiac]

Idk, even with the shitty mics and kids screaming, and dogs barking, and music blaring... I always liked VOIP because I was able to talk to my team mates. That's why headsets exist.

[quartz furnace]

I like queuing solo and meeting new people

[earnest verge]

they want to limit toxicity between players, shield the younger and new players.

[jade grotto]

Toxicity. People used the scoreboard to be toxic towards their own teammates and squad mates and enemy players and would use voip to harass them.

[junior widget]

Anyways, the xp and progression cap discussion got me riled up lol. But despite that i enjoy the game. I'm just happy i can fly hellisin in peace in solo flying through obstacles and attempting perfect landings on helipads

[civic void]

I almost always try to initiate team chat in FPS games, but 90% of the time I get no response and the majority of the other times it always ends in the person narrating each time they get killed.

[quartz furnace]

I don't want to just squad with people over discord, they might be dogshit :)

[foggy halo]

If someone is being toxic to you be toxic to them back

[wise zodiac]

Then you both get banned. Real smart choice.

[arctic grove]

[jade grotto]

When I was a young lad I would but I’m over that now.

[arctic grove]

Of course. The thing is though that since parties and communication clients became mainstream, game chat is pretty much nonexistent in the majority of games I've played in the last decade. The only franchise I can think of with a mentionable number of people in game chat is CoD.

[ionic adder]

PS4/5 does not have a discord yet. Plus just because you don't find voip useful, doesn't mean thousands of other people don't either, you silly fool.

[outer tiger]

he based tho

[earnest verge]

That is true, but why the all chatt dont make sense, in every game ever, toxic behavior in your own team is the problem, not taunting enemy team, i feel like atleast

[jade grotto]

[slim mesa]

i never experienced scoreboard related toxicity in bf-- only ppl yelling abt too many people playing as snipers and stuff

[foggy halo]

No bans for being toxic in voice chat in most games :)

[indigo needle]

I feel like they should focus more on parties than voip, making it easier for that to set up so you can talk.

[quartz furnace]

If you are 1-50 on a game mode with tickets someone should call you out for griefing because that's what you are doing, lol

[scarlet steeple]

Voip in game gives players the ability to not have to install 3rd party clients or get tied into them. They want to hop in game. Hop out.

[wise zodiac]

Uhhh that's a big yikes. I've had people voice comm banned on Xbox for telling someone to "shut the fuck up" before. Lmao

[mental finch]

Lol… I would agree with this… if the Text chat wasn’t still constantly fillled with “My team is so useless wtf”

[quartz furnace]

also if someone is 100-1 I would like to be able to see that to report them for cheating

[hidden sand]

The discord thing isn't really a useful argument because that comes with prep and knowing who you're playing with. VOIP is useful for on the spot communication with your squadmates. You may not be a fan of it, but it serves its purpose and mute options exist. Theres a reason it's been in nearly every BF game. @arctic grove

[jade grotto]

I have, but not everyone’s experience is the same. I know we are eventually going to get these features back though, since so many people want to be toxic 😋

[civic void]

Most people don't talk in games because they're busy talking to their friends in Discord

[wise zodiac]

But what if they're not cheating and they're in a tank and have a beast repair crew?

[arctic grove]

Xbox doesn't have Discord either, yet here I am, using it for multiplat squads. Completely moot argument.

[quartz furnace]

that's why there are reports that get reviewed?

[jade grotto]

No, I meant that DICE wanted to COMBAT toxicity. The community is just toxic because everyone on the internet is more toxic as a whole

[quartz furnace]

oh right EA probably doesn't hire people to review reports and there probably isn't a recording system like in CS...

[outer tiger]

you right
i was the bomber in bf1 haunting every fucking tank and infantry there is trying to reach objective D on sinai desert

[junior widget]

Or they dont have mic.

[wise zodiac]

But if you have 100x people doing that, it's a false positive and they're going to get banned regardless.

[wise zodiac]

Yeeep.

[indigo needle]

Discord vc works so much better than any in game voice chat I've experienced

[naive yarrow]

no shit

[wise zodiac]

I miss TeamSpeak.

[mental finch]

Which is my point, you try to combat Toxicity by removing VOIP, and you leave In TextToChat …. You’ve done absolutely nothing

[earnest verge]

i was banned in Apex once for asking what i did to deserve being called all these nasty words by another player (as in "why do you call me a ***", they assured me it was a bot thing and that they fixed it but that was fun

[jade grotto]

Well yes, but when not in discord, I’d like the option

[wise zodiac]

TeamSpeak was so good.

[quartz furnace]

Right so I guess the issue of a scoreboard and reports working properly goes back to designing a functional game vs. making flashy shit to just sell copies based on marketing alone

[cedar sandal]

True. That's why they should remove team chat and only retain squad chat.

[slim mesa]

think back on your bf experience, what was more common: "this team sucks blabla" general complaints vs "hey you player32 your kd sucks " i almost always heard the former not the latter and it wasnt a negative experience made it actually felt like you were on a team hearing ppl respond to the state of the game

[indigo needle]

I use my phone for Discord so I always have it close by, it's not really an issue

[cedar sandal]

Don't you people have phones

[ionic adder]

But it has a proper browser which makes it possible to use directly on xbox. Also what is moot about my "argument"?

[naive yarrow]

did anyone even care about gamechat lmao half the time it was people blasting music or just talking w their mic off mute

[jade grotto]

I meant with the other 127 players in the game 😝

[wise zodiac]

I've always said, "this team sucks!" even when it was my own clan/team, just to make them play better. Lmao

[arctic grove]

I never said I was or wasn't a fan of it, I'm saying it's barely used anymore, especially not on console. Everyone is either in a party, talking through Discord, or doesn't have a mic.

[naive yarrow]

why would u wanna have the headphones for ur phone in as well as ur headset lmao

[slim mesa]

and even now without scoreboard ppl still type the same stuff to their team ' shoot the vehicles, useless team blabla' so their intent to remove that type of toxicity obviously didnt work

[cedar sandal]

I mean that's on Sony not having discord

[jade grotto]

Yes. Because the MATURE BF players used it to coordinate and PTFO

[arctic grove]

The browser doesn't run in the background, so you can only use Discord while it's on the screen.

[wise zodiac]

Which, every console used to come with a headset...

[naive yarrow]

no console has discord dawg

[earnest verge]

"dont you guys have phones" feel approp here

[wise zodiac]

I use my phone for discord voice chat.

[cedar sandal]

Alright. That's on Sony and Microsoft for not having discord

[wise zodiac]

And my xbox for party chat.

Because I run a team that utilizes both discord and Xbox party chats.

[quartz furnace]

BF 2042: stop being poor and buy a phone to use VOIP with friends we hope you already made that play this game

[wise zodiac]

So discord voice on my phone, Xbox party on my xbox

[ionic adder]

So you are basically just further proving my point of voip's convenience then?

[foggy halo]

I never insult my team, I’m loyal to my team unless they **really **suck.

[junior widget]

I just want proxi chat so i can rant and scream to the player who killed me how he/she/it/they sucks and that im better than him/her/it/they

[naive yarrow]

i barely cared,i would be ina private squad w my friends and if someone did end up joining well keep dem unless they’re not listening,i actually did enjoy that even if u was ina ps4 party u can hear people in gamechat

[arctic grove]

I never said it wasn't convenient. Are you going to stop strawmanning anytime soon?

[wise zodiac]

Oh, I don't mean it. I say it they know I'm kidding.

[quartz furnace]

the ability to switch squads would be nice so I can leave teams that are just people sniping in a corner

[indigo needle]

You mean where 110 of those are silent, 10 are drunk and rambling, 5 are screaming and you can't hear the other dudes who are actually trying to communicate?

[hidden sand]

There's always going to be toxicity in a game, you can never get rid of it. That's just how multiplayer games are. That's why "hide chat" and "mute player" options exist. Just because those things can get toxic, doesnt mean they should be removed. I can bring up many wholesome moments, or funny experiences with others, etc, I've been able to have thanks to all chat, for instance.

[earnest verge]

This, i cant really perform unless some smuck calls me out first

[mental finch]

Any Metro RU Team that camps on A the entire team

[naive yarrow]

ok ? ur acting like everyone in the world gives a fuck,we have a parrt system in the console,and den again discord is more annoying confiding it’s easier to jus hear ur game and ppl at the same time instead of having use ur phone lmao,if u have a pc ok whatever but don’t blame the ppl don’t have pcs for not having it lol

[jade grotto]

Yeah it would just be nice to have the option to coordinate with randos on the fly like that

[quartz furnace]

NGL if this game had proximity voice chat I would ignore every other problem it has

[wise zodiac]

But, see, now we're in the world of coddling people, participation trophies, etc etc.

Not trying to get this into a political spiel, but that's what happens when people become offended by everything.

[quartz furnace]

the ability to talk shit to people while I teabag them would be a great feature

[mental finch]

Some part of me is hoping that the reason we don’t have VOIP, is because they’re adding in proximity chat

[earnest verge]

Amen

[jade grotto]

Ok so devs shouldn’t try to make changes to help curb toxicity? 🧐

[naive yarrow]

that’s the only reason i liked gamechat,i never actually spoke,if someone took a spot in my heli that was for my friend i would,i would go and talk and most the time they’ll talk back and even ina ps4 part i would hear dem,so that i liked but overall never was in gc

[arctic grove]

Participation trophies were started by the boomers. Just saying. As with almost all of life's problems, blame them.

[gritty robin]

being toxic in a casual game 🤣

[ionic adder]

I don' think you know what the term "strawmanning" means my friend. All I'm saying that voip is used by many and it should be in the game, you are mumbling nonsense like in lines of "nobody uses it because I don't use it"

[hidden sand]

No longer being able to say "gg" with everyone, or laugh with an enemy who killed me in a funny way, etc anymore fucking sucks.

[quartz furnace]

removal of proximity chat is why I stopped playing BR games

[naive yarrow]

can’t u still type in chat lmao

[arctic grove]

Yea

[hidden sand]

I already listed them. Mute and hide chat options. There's also a block button.

[wise zodiac]

Nah, that was started the generation before the Millenials. So what, Gen X?

[quartz furnace]

yeah not having all chat kind of sucks when you are in a sniper battle and want to tell the other person nice shot

[hidden sand]

All chat is gone, only team chat in 2042.

[naive yarrow]

so what’s the big deal,we can’t type to the enemy ? that’s the issue ? ppl complain over anything,im on console so that wasn’t even a option

[earnest verge]

how do people keep up with what generation is what is what i wanna know, makes me feel like im 80

[jade grotto]

You listed some of them. The scoreboard changes and voip omitting was the others

[junior widget]

Or that they suck and u owned them, then gg

[wise zodiac]

Gen X and the EARLY millennials. Like early 80s.

[arctic grove]

All chat would be funny to look at

[indigo needle]

I want to blame the Danes, can't we all just blame the Danes instead?

[naive yarrow]

ok ? not a big deal ,it would jus be both teams ranting and talking shit about how the games ass and they still play it

[gusty jasper]

Question is, why remove such a fun feature in the first place

[cedar sandal]

They should remove team chat too

[naive yarrow]

it doesn’t drastically change gameplay does it ?

[mental finch]

I miss all chat tbh, all chat was fun in BF4 [Text Chat]

[arctic grove]

Ah yes, no chat. So people can complain more

[gusty jasper]

That's not the point

[cedar sandal]

Only party and squad chat should be in

[hidden sand]

? I'm saying they already have perfectly fine ways to deflect that toxicity. The changes they made this time were redundant.

[wise zodiac]

No. Because the Danes didn't give a fuck about people's feelings.

Team Odin.

[earnest verge]

Come visit me in Sweden bro, u want to be woke, yo def wanna visit 😆

[quartz furnace]

people on console can type, I had a guy on ps5 typing shit in chat to me

[naive yarrow]

that’s the point of what i’m tryna get at,idk why it’s so important,waaaa i can’t talk shit to the enemy get over it

[foggy halo]

8:00 AM is a nice hour to wake up

[quartz furnace]

because it's a common feature and I like talking with people who are playing the game with me?

[arctic grove]

You're attacking an argument that doesn't exist, or is a twisted version of what the other person is saying. That's strawmanning, and that's what you're doing.

I never said it was inconvenient, I never said I didn't like it, I never said it was removed for toxicity (you didn't say that, someone else did), I never said any of that. I said that people don't really use game chat anymore, and I'm using the 12 years I've been on Xbox as my base for that statement. When parties and communication clients became mainstream, game chat usage lowered drastically.

It’s a very slow process in comparison to keyboard, but we’ll get our point across to you eventually

[mental finch]

Do they still make those little keyboards you can plug into the bottom of a controller?

[junior widget]

All chat is so fun, i soend most of my time at the base cuz im busy chatting

[foggy halo]

7:00 AM is too early, 9:00 AM is too late. 8:00AM is the sweet spot

[earnest verge]

wouldnt know, gamers dont sleep

[hidden sand]

It matters to me. Have met loads of cool people and had really funny and wholeosme moments thanks to all chat. Not being able to say GG to everyone at the end of the game is disappointing. You've been on console, as you said, so you don't value it. But when you've had it on PC since BF1942, you value it way differently. It does matter to others.

[cedar sandal]

Remove team chat

[arctic grove]

Sleep?

[indigo needle]

As a Swede it is against the unwritten law to visit anyone, the penalty is someone clenching their fist in their pocket, not saying anything and then make a long rant on FB that 2 people likes

[earnest verge]

lmao the truth

[gusty jasper]

Every decent fps game has an all chat to speak to the rest of the server unless it's a BR. It's just a fun feature present in old games that was removed for no reason. In your logic, let's remove everything that doesn't directly impact gameplay.

[mellow tangle]

voice chat with the option to turn it off

[quartz furnace]

BRs used to have all chat as well, it was great

[indigo needle]

We trained them well

[gusty jasper]

Which game?

[quartz furnace]

that was the best week of warzone when all chat was enabled, hilarious shit

[naive yarrow]

understandable but ur making it seem like it changes the way the gane is played and how u play,i get it’s a feature ya used but keep in mind not everyone even had it to begin w(myself included) i would rather rant to the devs about a scoreboard and actual in gamechat rather then typing to the enemy team but once again i do see ur point

[quartz furnace]

h1 used to have all chat iirc, and early mods for arma

[arctic grove]

That's definitely possible.

[cedar sandal]

Global and side chat are sometimes disabled for ArmA 3 missions

[junior widget]

Id love VC, but then again, i cant speak engrish

[naive yarrow]

not remove it,focus on having dem add things that do change gameplay first and alter ur den have them have a all chat,i rather have bigger implements den the minuscule ones first

[ionic adder]

You literally said nobody uses voip, which is wrong and called you out for it, I don't care about your life story.

[cedar sandal]

Participation trophies were invented for boomers to cope with losing the Vietnam War

[jovial jay]

man flying a jet is fun in 2042, only when it's not shaking or micro rubber banding like crazy

[south linden]

when tarky adds voip before 2042

.

[mellow tangle]

A lot of people use voice chat

[foggy halo]

Speak in your language and pretend that others need to understand your language

[arctic grove]

Okay, so my experience on multi-player games is wrong? Okay. Glad we've come to this dumbass conclusion.

[dapper river]

oh snap, 64 player modes live on PC/current gen? does that mean we can match with last gen now?

[south linden]

🤣

[mental finch]

I just want VOIP, and some people are getting emotional lmao

[ionic adder]

Exactly

[pliant current]

Hope they keep the 64 player option

[ionic adder]

It is yes.

[wise zodiac]

Except, the boots didn't lose the war, the suits did.

Let's not get into this conversation. Lol

[indigo needle]

Probably not, one can always hope though

[wise zodiac]

No.

[arctic grove]

So you're saying for the last 8 or 9 years of silent lobbies I've been in, that just never happened?

[dapper river]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683 <-- EMBED FAIL!!!!!!!!!

[peak breach]

Yo we got smacked silly in Vietnam. We lost that shit...

[junior widget]

Yeah, flying jets is fun,,, given all u can do with then is fly since they suck at fighting XD jk. I just suck at jets

[mental finch]

If anything, I just want a server browser, I’d like player owned servers…. But if I had to chose one for an unholy reason, I’m choosing a browser… although, hosted servers are only possible with a browser.

[gusty jasper]

Yeah me too but enabling all chat is not this intensive coding project.

[quartz furnace]

I get into a lot of CS lobbies where the other 4 people are all speaking spanish and one of them can speak english and spanish and has to translate, even that is an improvement over no voice, you can still understand tonality so you are aware of incoming fire, etc. to look out for

[mental finch]

Yeah, yeah, Portal has a shit ass browser, Im aware

[cedar sandal]

It wasn't the suits that smoked in the tents and fragged their own officers. It was really a joint effort by everyone involved, a true generational screwup.

[foggy halo]

@mental finch Why no color role?

[earnest verge]

use the toggle, WAM your a heli now

[neat totem]

I like how every single fucking person is using plate carriers now

[dapper river]

Angel does it again :)

[mental finch]

Huh?

[cedar sandal]

Angel

[gusty jasper]

Armor was easily one of the worst additions to this game

[junior widget]

Ohh great idea, i hope i team up with u when vc arrives. 🤣

[neat totem]

ignoring the entire purpose of battlefield because the meta says ignore everything due to the points meaning nothing

[earnest verge]

would you go to war without vest if offered for free?

[gusty jasper]

Makes gun fights so inconsistent when people have armor that also blocks headshots

[mellow tangle]

Voice chat is needed for cross play because I can’t join my friends on their Xbox party and vide versa. It was less common in the PS4 era because people just used parties, but before that it was incredibly popular and it’s getting back there now, if you play cod there are people talking, not so much on TDM, but search and destroy people have mics on a lot I’ve found.

[ionic adder]

I would say you're lying if in 9 years you haven't had games in squad based video games where your party did use voip.

[quartz furnace]

angel is the best hero, can resupply, get armor, and run a medical pen

[naive yarrow]

same w specialists,there should be a seperate aow w a class system lmao

[solemn idol]

battlefield is dead

[neat totem]

I mean I'm not arguing plate carriers aren't useful, I'm saying they fit horrendously into the meta that is battlefield

[junior widget]

Nope, not if ur russian

[gusty jasper]

Facts

[dapper river]

I think the Chinese PLA doesn't issue plate carriers

[foggy halo]

FAKE NEWS KALOV

[mental finch]

Which is why so many people are heatedly arguing over it… sound logic

[neat totem]

you literally have people ignoring all armor and air because "plate carriers mean I don't lose"

[cedar sandal]

Most BF games have something like that

[arctic grove]

The overwhelming majority of games I've been in have been silent, or had only one person talking. I'm not lying, you just refuse to believe that other people can have a different experience than you.

[solemn idol]

yes it’s true, battlefield is dead. the new game is planetside 2

[naive yarrow]

for cross play yea cus it’s a pain playing w friends now

[wise zodiac]

Yeah, and the suits didn't get down on their hands and knees and crawl in tunnels filled with deadly traps, snakes, soldiers.. in pitch black darkness either.

So, again, let's not bring this topic up

[gusty jasper]

Defensive field upgrade wasn't exactly favored by the community as well

Any form of armor in a bf game is just not fun

[cedar sandal]

It wasn't just defensive field upgrade. There was armor and damage upgrades throughout most of the Battlefields that affect TTK

[indigo needle]

I used to want people to talk in games so I could get over my fear of it but no one ever talked, ever.

[quartz furnace]

I feel like the armor doesn't even do anything

[gusty jasper]

That's true

[ionic adder]

You said nobody uses voip, I said that is not true. Who is the one not being able to believe others have different experiences here?

[dense terrace]

so why is 64 mode for a limited time while this should be perma?

[naive yarrow]

they already have the system for it,they can use the bf3/bc2
layout they have and jus polish it for 2042,den differentiate what equipment goes to what class

[wise zodiac]

I've been playing Xbox Live since release, and in the days since BF4s release on Xbox, the usage of voice chat has significantly dropped in games that have it.

[foggy halo]

There are a lot of weirdos

[arctic grove]

I said that less people use it nowadays. What is so hard to understand?

[junior widget]

Makes u feel like ur playing COD

[neat totem]

I'm literally in a game where more than half the people are using plate carriers, I just don't see what the fuck EA is doing with this game

[ionic adder]

You said nobody, that started this whole convo.

[naive yarrow]

it’s only 20 extra hp lmao

[quartz furnace]

nah in CoD the rifles actually put bullets where I'm aiming

[neat totem]

is this battlefield or just some shitty battlefield heroes level flop

[gusty jasper]

It can take 1-2 more bullets to kill you also sniper headshots are covered by armor sometimes (dunno if that's a bug)

[strange horizon]

The latter

[junior widget]

Well, Angel does it again 😂

[naive yarrow]

bloom has always been a thing in bf but in this game it’s just to the max for some reason,especially fuckin portal

[quartz furnace]

svk is still 2 shots with armor

[earnest verge]

In hc the plate feels just right, some few times it makes u scrape by with a 1-10 hp

[balmy schooner]

where is game chat?

[lethal junco]

When you're playing close range with a red dot NTW and point blank someone through the chest only for a tiny armour plate to say "Nah homie, not today"

[arctic grove]

Okay, then I correct my original statement because you want to be a pedantic fuck. Less people use voice chat than before.

[dapper river]

don't use voip, they have bots that archive a transcript of everything you say so it can later be used against you-- I mean, for "anonymized data collection and market research purposes"

[gusty jasper]

I mean DMRs in this game are overbuffed

[mental finch]

Welcome to the current conversation lmaoooo

[balmy schooner]

day 1 of asking for game chat

[quartz furnace]

it's not just bloom but the entire recoil system in this game feels bad compared to past games

[neat totem]

the problem isn't the armor necessarily, it's armor and the current shooter meta is making everyone ignore vehicles

[mellow tangle]

bruh most of the lobbies are bots anyway

[neat totem]

killing a tank or helicopter gives you almost no satisfaction or points, so why fucking do it?

[lethal junco]

People most definitely arent ignoring my vehicles

[indigo needle]

Same lol

[junior widget]

In the future game chat doesnt exist 😂

[sturdy osprey]

So Is there any form of squad or team chat now?? Played about 50 hours and have never heard one person say a word in any matches ever

[balmy schooner]

shiiii why

[quartz furnace]

BF would be better without vehicles

[gusty jasper]

The M5 feels like ass to use compared to the classic SMAW or RPG

[earnest verge]

im prob the only 1 but i want more bloom, full laser 30+ bullets feels wierd to me

[lethal junco]

Woah, your tank left spawn? Well if you look to your left about 70 degrees up you'll notice a local sundance with C5 on her way to say hello

[indigo needle]

I disagree.

[naive yarrow]

recoil does feel kinda janky as well as how the gun moves but the bloom throw me off more

[arctic grove]

Does 64p actually run?

[quartz furnace]

I just want Metro to come back so I can only play that map all day :)

[dapper river]

go play CS then

[foggy halo]

They should talk in person in an open space. Safest method.

[mental finch]

So do I, it would lose its entire identity, and truly, no longer be Battlefield

[mellow tangle]

Yeah

[indigo needle]

A BF without vehicles would not be a BF for me.

[arctic grove]

Or does it die like 128

[naive yarrow]

it better be for bf3 in portal then cuz 2042 for metro ?

[earnest verge]

did it so much its even more laser for me xD

[mellow tangle]

Can anyone find a match

[lethal junco]

Having no issues finding lobbies

[junior widget]

Dude, thats like saying GTA would be better off without cars

[dapper river]

yeah just make sure there are no phones or government listening devices or drones nearby

[hidden nexus]

64 player conquest is way better

[naive yarrow]

idk why ppl say vehicles are broken as if they didn’t see bf4

[quartz furnace]

they should replace conquest and breakthrough with just a metro/prison game mode

[arctic grove]

Figured my hyperbolic statement would be understood but I guess I woke the literalists.

[naive yarrow]

maps are too big anyways,conquest should be 128 while break though would perma be 64

[hidden nexus]

switch to 64 player limited time conquest because nobody playing 128 player conquest

[arctic grove]

2042 has to many vehicles

[ionic adder]

Alright, that is also not factually true since voip is relevantly new in video games when looking at competitive fps games' existence as a whole, but I can live with such claim instead of "nobody uses it, so we do't need it".

[mental finch]

Silk Road PTSD

[foggy halo]

Because the game is sooo good you find lobbies in 2 seconds

[earnest verge]

those are some fancy words i dont know waht thye mean

[indigo needle]

If anything I feel like they are weak and need a buff or two, the tank is pretty sad right now.

[gritty robin]

bro this gc is good content at times 🤣

[foggy halo]

even faster than warzone :)

[naive yarrow]

shanghai attack heli memories

[hidden nexus]

ye they should adjust maps and size of each sector

[dapper river]

golmud railway sucked stop voting for it ffs i h8 bf4 players >:(

[lethal junco]

I assume you're being sarcastic but I shit you not, read your message. Clicked "Play" on 64 man breakthrough and found a match on the 2nd second of searching.

[gusty jasper]

Golmud Railway

[naive yarrow]

tank is kinda weak i feel,a condor takes like 3-4 hits ?

[foggy halo]

[naive yarrow]

i’m sayin bro conquest small and breakthrough small,make the sectors smaller and choose smaller areas of the map instead

[quartz furnace]

Ok I changed my mind metro, prison, and bazaar in a playlist with 128 players in 2042 would be perfect

[junior widget]

The hovercraft feels more like a tank than the tank

[arctic grove]

Hop on Xbox then. Play some Halo, some Battlefield (the previous titles), Forza, Back 4 Blood... I mean pick anything other than CoD (which is somehow the most active, game chat wise) and provided you're in the NA region, you'll most likely have the same experience. Hardly anyone talks.

[earnest verge]

road to jalabalad please

[dapper river]

took a whole 2 seconds to find a match? dead game

[lethal junco]

Ikr

[mental finch]

Okay… yeaaahh…. But I’ve had so many instances on the building where the E3 demo with the chopper pretty much get’s reinacted….. those are sorta fun memories for me

[naive yarrow]

not no more but the bolte ? that shii used to kill tanks faster then another tank can

[quartz furnace]

It takes 2-3 minutes for a match to end and even start looking for the next game

[mellow tangle]

I wish I could play halo

[naive yarrow]

nah of course it’s shit u can get over especially w the map altering changing the vehicle players playstyle too,but in this game evert map is a meat grinder for vehicles cuz internet have shit launchers and shit cover

[dapper river]

YAAAAH, ANGEL DOES IT AGAIN

A good day's work, but I'm not one to brag.

That's it? I'm ready for round 2! >:D

[junior widget]

Yeah that too, the tanks are so underpowered in this game

[indigo needle]

Took me 6 hits to take down another tank, wasn't able to take out a hovercraft on several occasions (~8 hits before getting blown into oblivion) more or less need a direct hit on people to take them down, weak is the right word

[naive yarrow]

no pc or xbox?

[gusty jasper]

I AM NOT OVERCONFIDENT

[mellow tangle]

PS5

[earnest verge]

when ur older u wont mind, u need bathroom brake every 30

[mental finch]

Another reason I miss Player Owned servers, WHG would straight up turn that timer down to the lowest possible settings.

[gritty robin]

when angel is so good he can teamkill his teammates

[mental finch]

ANGEL DOES IT AGAIN

[quartz furnace]

imagine not having a piss bottle

[arctic grove]

You can stream it on your phone if you have a subscription to Game Pass Ultimate, but it depends on your internet as well.

[earnest verge]

lmao u got me

[naive yarrow]

and don’t even get me started on how bf4 had a better weak point system then bfv/2042 idk why my tracks get disabled,it’s realistic but i rather have my mobility hits back as well as seein how much damage im doing

[mellow tangle]

ps5 is a joke right now. It has no games. I’m constantly playing souls games, or building levels that resemble souls games in little big planet

[dapper river]

Sometimes i go into portal servers with FF enabled and teamkill snipers then immediately revive them

[mental finch]

Man…. But tbh @gritty robin at this point, if you stand under my supply drop…. You deserve that shit lmao

[minor holly]

Horizon forbidden west, Spider-Man uncharted the last of us stop the cap

[naive yarrow]

true,i have all 3 so i’m kinda spoiled although i only use the ps5

[indigo needle]

Yeah, I used to be a main tank but it's just not fun this time around. I really hope they put some more energy into it.

[gritty robin]

ive seen angel teammates drop a supply drop on a friendly sniper lol

[arctic grove]

LittleBIGPlanet is such a fire game. It's the one game I wish we had on Xbox.

[ionic adder]

No issue with BF's or B4B in EU.

[naive yarrow]

dawg if u see my bf4 stats(it’s ass) my tank was below my attack heli and only cuz i used to be a gunner for my friend to use tv missiles

[mental finch]

Lol, lowkey…. If they’re camping in the base…… fuck em 😂

[arctic grove]

EU could have more active game chat for all I know. I'm just speaking from my experience on Xbox in the US.

[mellow tangle]

Yeah, it’s been my go to since 2010, I like building worlds, and levels. When there’s nothing to play, I make my own.

[naive yarrow]

gears of war it’s sad how that game has ended up

[indigo needle]

Helis are kinda fun this time, I never really got into it before but I'm learning how to handle them now and it's really fun!

[quartz furnace]

BF doesn't have an afk kicker for AOW, I was in a game for an hour when I went to do something and forgot I was queued

[lethal junco]

Me and a mate spawn camping the enemy helis on hourglass with an M5 and Soflam, unlimited reloads is still one of the most broke things I've seen done with Angel

[naive yarrow]

they’re 50/50 for me,i used dem in both games but there’s stuff 2042 does well where does stuff bf4 does well,it’s all preference

[ionic adder]

Exactly, which means downplaying the importance of voip based on your experience is stupid.

[gritty robin]

this is why angel is broken lol

[earnest verge]

no its cause he dont actually need a mate, he can do it solo

[mellow tangle]

I honestly cannot think of a single game that has any integrity or future on next gen. I was considering getting the destiny update?

[naive yarrow]

they handle and move easier in this game,have less weight

[jovial jay]

Thats how he can always does thing again

[elder raptor]

ok but why are 64 player modes a limited feature

[junior widget]

Which is why they should nerf the ammo crate. I suggested this before and some people here said the crate was not being used enought to be nerfed lol

[indigo needle]

I tried them in 4 for a short while and the controls felt better but that was just a couple of minutes on the test range or whatever it's called

[gritty robin]

with enough positive feedback they will make it an unlimited feature

[jovial jay]

Probably for testing

[elder raptor]

i just want team deathmatch :'(

[neat totem]

im going to laugh when this game is dead in a year because the people making the weapon/game balancing have no fucking clue what they are doing

[arctic grove]

I'm not downplaying the importance of it. Again, my entire statement was, after the correction, that less people use the in-game chat than before in the North American region on Xbox. That's all I'm speaking for. I'm not speaking for the rest of the world.

[quartz furnace]

64 players on these maps is going to be boring as fuck

[mental finch]

And why we just need the Old-School medic class back. Angel is so superior to Falck, I have NO will to play her at all. I’ve always been a medic main btw

[neat totem]

this game is literally like playing a shitty clone of apex and call of duty

[jovial jay]

Maybe they dont have to stick to the rule of 2, just go for 40v40 to fill in the map a little bit more

[lethal junco]

It's a situational item but it can most definitely be abused hard

[fossil trench]

Because Battlefield is now doing limited time modes like COD

[naive yarrow]

yea,in this game idk if ur on console but the right stick moves the heli to the right of left whilst also turning the heli around a bit,bf4 only turn it sideways

[elder raptor]

but cod's ltms weren't core gamemodes

[neat totem]

battlefield is now glorified shitty third-world call of duty

[mellow tangle]

I think if I were the developers, I would have absolutely, no expenses spared, made sure to add an official TDM game mode by Christmas

[ionic adder]

Fair enough, while I do doubt it, I cannot talk for NA.

[junior widget]

It is being abused on almost all the game i play. U can see people just camping by an ammo crate

[naive yarrow]

this can work

[elder raptor]

call of duty sucks shit now too

[neat totem]

I mean call of duty at least sticks to the fundamentals

[gusty jasper]

[lethal junco]

Camping by an ammo crate in its self is meh, it's the stupid shit where you can get 200 round NTW mags or having unlimited gadget ammo that's abusable

[neat totem]

people said IN FUCKING ALPHA DO NOT MAKE THIS APEX

[quartz furnace]

if this game didn't have unlimited ammo with the crates it would be unplayable, a fucking AK with the 50 round mag only gets 100 shots total and it takes like 30 to kill someone running at range

[lethal junco]

His small ammo pouches are enough for resupply in its self

[neat totem]

its literally THREADS in the closed alpha section

[mellow tangle]

Wait for modern warfare 2 , call of duty is basically infinity ward, and then the next two are filler, and then it’s infinity ward again

[regal ravine]

How is the new limited time mode?
64 players should feel a lot better than 128 players

[quartz furnace]

unless you tap fire every shot

[neat totem]

they legit DO NOT LISTEN, they WONT LISTEN, the fact the scoreboard isn't even back after how much drama was kicked up is hilarious

[junior widget]

Exactly my point, they camp by ammo crate for gadget reloads, spam m5 and stingers

[neat totem]

this whole 64 player mode is just to save face they don't have anyone playing this shit right now and servers are near-empty

[jovial jay]

Yeah sounds like battlefield, people switching from hitscan game to bf gotta be traumatized by this

[cedar sandal]

So? It's just 20hp.

[neat totem]

let's be frank if they cared enough and this wasn't damage contorl it would have been in the base game

[naive yarrow]

i don’t think they lowered the size of the actual flags so it prolly feels worse,huge maps and less players

[gusty jasper]

I hope to God they bring back 3 Lane maps in MW2

[mental finch]

Idk, maybe I’m just biased because I try and get at least 100 resupplies a match, and sometimes no one uses my crates, and I still pull it off with the pouches, you may not notice us, but the good Angels throw ammo at you all the time

[lethal junco]

Ah right, yea. Camping for sniper ammo and shit imo is meh, I just dont think you should be able to max resupply gadgets on a rather short cooldown but we'll see whether they change it

[mellow tangle]

They will, shoot house remember

[silent portal]

a lot of people like myself still cant even launch the game. crashes everytime. but spent more than 2 hours troubleshooting the game which wont let me return it now

[naive yarrow]

every cld should stick to 3-2 lane maps

[neat totem]

imagine thinking the 64 player mode is anything more than them panic-bandaging the game because A) the servers can't handle 128 person combat or B) the servers literally aren't filling

[quartz furnace]

This game is worse than previous BF games in terms of how many bullets you have to use to kill someone

[mellow tangle]

I’m seriously considering becoming a mobile gamer

[neat totem]

this is EA/DICE going "how can we salvage the gameplay while still making a hero shooter"

[gusty jasper]

Good, MW19 had the most ass maps in the entire franchise. So many campers

[rotund agate]

no more nerfs already enough in this game 😦

[junior widget]

The sad part is theyre getting more kills and xp than those actually playing the game/objective

[neat totem]

^

[mental finch]

I do admit, Playing as angel was a bit more fun for the first couple of weeks when he was pretty much ignored, he feels a little exploitative now that there’s so many, and him being broken really shines through

[neat totem]

killing vehicles makes no fucking sense if you get zero exp when everyone bails out

[quartz furnace]

camping has never been a problem for me in CoD because you can just strafe jump and spray them down with an smg :)

[cedar sandal]

Not everything is about XP lol

[neat totem]

so shocker when nobody uses any other perks besides carriers and beacons at any high level

xp is kinda important to like 90% of the players right now, but ok bud lol half the good shit is gatekept

[quartz furnace]

pp29 should just 3 shot every vehicles, idk why this game has any other weapon tbh