battlefield-2042

[slim junco]

1% got it

[oak canyon]

huge L to the people who thought danger zone was ftp

[tame cobalt]

Hazard zone

[gusty nebula]

My 100% hype for 2042 is going into the portal WWII guns

[vocal tusk]

Thats the pre load

[hidden sand]

Wait why is it unfair for ps4/5?

[oak canyon]

fuck hazard zone

HWNSBQIA

i keep forgetting

[rocky nexus]

refund

[oak canyon]

porque

[arctic grove]

dementia moment

[gusty nebula]

Y’all not rockin wit hazard zone⁉️

[hot raptor]

For Xbox it’s coming out early

[gleaming citrus]

NO ITS NOT

[arctic grove]

people just like to joke around you know

[gleaming citrus]

caps oops

[oak canyon]

no i like hazard its a big L to those who thought it was a ftp

[hot raptor]

Really?

[paper talon]

so wait ps4/ps5 preloads starts at midnight?

like today?

[gleaming citrus]

no, that’s pre load times lol

[tame cobalt]

idk but xbox gets 2 days earlier preload, probably cuz their patch verification is faster or something

[hybrid oar]

has a hardcore mode been confirmed at all yet?

[hot raptor]

Ohhhh

[subtle iron]

when is it coming out for xbox?

[hot raptor]

My bad I’m dumb

[tame cobalt]

no, midnight on the 10th, your local time

[paper talon]

well fuck

[hidden sand]

Ye they're partnered with xbox so that makes sense

[gusty nebula]

Just do portal, you can make whatever kind of hardcore server you want

[oak canyon]

those with xbox game pass ultimate or ea play (either version) get a 10 hour trial on november 12th

[vocal tusk]

Nothing is coming out early....Xbox preload is just 4 days before other platforms

[tame cobalt]

Would be a weird thing to get out of a marketing partnership but aight

[hybrid oar]

i figured as much, just wanted to see if they were putting it in game, i heard rumors they were but nothing solid

[pine roost]

Why is Xbox preload so much earlier, that makes 0 sense

[subtle iron]

BSodD when is preload for Bf2042?

[frank rain]

Boris is suffering from covid

[oak canyon]

microsoft and ea are besties

thats why

[gusty nebula]

Because everything is probably OK’d by Microsoft before Sony

[vocal tusk]

Xbox Exclusive - 4 day preload early access to Battlefield 2042

lol

[pine roost]

Yeah but it makes literally no difference

As BSOD says, nothing comes out earlier

It’s just odd lol

[oak canyon]

i mean it does make a huge difference considering ea has given free ea play to those who have game pass ultimate

[gusty nebula]

EA play is my lifeblood

[hidden sand]

Lmao

[vocal tusk]

Early access starts at the same time for everyone AFAIK...November 12th 9:00 CEST

[pine roost]

I don’t know anything about game pass or ea play, this is just unusual

[hard breach]

I got base 60 euros preorder so I dont think im gettin early

[pine roost]

Is this all the info we got today?

[gusty nebula]

It’s probably because Battlefield 2042 has a partnership with Microsoft. That’s pretty much all

[frank rain]

Boris is suffering from covid some one please give him
vaccine

[tranquil coral]

no you need gold or above

[hot raptor]

Who bought the ultimate edition

?

[gusty nebula]

Boris is kil

[hot raptor]

Hello

[frank rain]

Hi

[hot raptor]

Why did everyone disappear

[vocal tusk]

I got gold edition

[frank rain]

Me too

[tranquil coral]

I feel like gold edition is the best choice ngl

[hot raptor]

Nice I got ultimate edition

[frank rain]

Some one help Boris he has covid

[vocal tusk]

I dont really like the ultimate skin, and the art book is digital only, so it doesnt interest me either.

[oak canyon]

apolgy for bad english

where were u wen boris die

i was at house eating dorito when phone ring

"Boris is kil"

"no"

[tranquil coral]

same

[gusty nebula]

I hate when ultimate editions give you digital stuff, art books and soundtracks should be physical

[tranquil coral]

I mean you would need to buy a physical copy of bf not the digital

[gusty nebula]

That’s true but like give me a code to buy it online or something

[frank rain]

Not to worry dozer will use covine shield

[tranquil coral]

right

[frank rain]

Marie falck will help Boris from covid

[ocean temple]

when can i play early access on xbox

[vocal tusk]

I only really bought Gold for the weeks Early access, but im gonna enjoy the base game content, so have a few more bucks DICE (4 season passes are also nice)

[frank rain]

12 november

[vocal tusk]

Plus skins and the Irish preorder skin too

[nova idol]

Im not buying season passes until I know A. How I like the game and B. Whether theyre worth it

[frank rain]

I want free dlc does the game have paid one

[vocal tusk]

It seems Dozer only deflects bullets when crouched with the shield out

[light cradle]

Mommy Falck can syringe me anytime 💉🥵

[valid tapir]

Hello.

[frank rain]

She will use her covid shield pistol🤣

[regal ravine]

Let’s be real. The “early access” is really the true launch date, and people without Gold edition or higher will be playing a “late access” of the game 🤣

[nova idol]

All post launch content will be free

[frank rain]

Use said that u were gonna buy season pass what is that?

[vital cloud]

wait so iis the game coming out on the 10th now?

[nova idol]

Cosmetic battle passes

[nova idol]

No

[noble ruin]

Wait is that young Falck?

[next isle]

no

[nova idol]

Early Access starts on the 12th Launch is 19th

[slim junco]

[nova idol]

Playstation/PC preload is the 10th

[frank rain]

She has an outfit it is her

[nova idol]

Xbox preloads tomorrow

[glossy storm]

What's a pre-load?

[noble ruin]

What about Grandma Falck?

[nova idol]

Pre-installing the game so you can instantly play when it goes live

[glossy storm]

Oh.

[frank rain]

I saw great grandma Falck in bf5

Aa boxer badak mat

[broken plank]

wew preload in 14 hours

[tame cobalt]

Battle of the bulge got some bf1 vibes

[frank rain]

Are u kidding me

[noble ruin]

I'm pretty sure they have some assets from BF1 in the map

[buoyant trail]

Xbox favoritism

[tame cobalt]

Looking forward to some tank gameplay on el alamein

[broken plank]

depends did you look at the image

[frank rain]

Which image

[broken plank]

game news

latest one

[arctic grove]

Why do consoles have earlier pre load date

My internet is dogshit too

[tame cobalt]

[broken plank]

[upbeat hound]

Probably because Xbox will have a 1000gb update lmao

[arctic grove]

I download at .7mbps it’s so bad

[frank rain]

Gotcha

[oblique cloak]

happy bf day

[tame cobalt]

3mbps here 😎

[arctic grove]

I’m lucky if it’s downloaded before the actual release

[tame cobalt]

same

[glacial zephyr]

Its still a preload but ill wait until nov 10

[oblique cloak]

mb/s or MB/s or Mb/s

they're all different

[tame cobalt]

bit

[oblique cloak]

I have 50 Mb/s

[tame cobalt]

3Mbps

[haughty dagger]

We have no idea when the season pass is or what’s in it right?

[buoyant trail]

Lmao

[oblique cloak]

that sucks

[tame cobalt]

Yes

[glacial zephyr]

50mbps is not enough, its supposed to be 100mbs or above

[arctic grove]

I very hyped for the blistered earth skin bundle

[oblique cloak]

supposed to be for what

I don't have a 4k monitor

[hot raptor]

Can’t wait for the game to come out

[oblique cloak]

I don't stream

[tame cobalt]

50mbps is enough, please let me have 50mbps 😩

[glacial zephyr]

download speed

[broken plank]

300mbs download speed

[oblique cloak]

yeah it's a bit slow

[tame cobalt]

Looking forward to seeing the improved graphics on ps5

[oblique cloak]

but rn I'm not downloading anything, I just play BF4 all the time

[glacial zephyr]

I download games on xbox series x/s but i have 150 mbs

[oblique cloak]

will attack boats return in 2042?

[uneven palm]

I only have around 300 mbs

[fossil geyser]

Hm

[grim token]

Can someone explain me whats the pre launch

[uneven palm]

Getting an upgrade soon

[grim token]

That means some people will play?

[tame cobalt]

No

you mean the preload?

[uneven palm]

You will be able to install the game before release

But can’t play it

[grim token]

Tomorrow

[tame cobalt]

No

[uneven palm]

If that’s what you mean

[oblique cloak]

have you bought the game?

[tame cobalt]

Not tomorrow

[grim token]

Idk they posted on insta smtg about pre launch

[uneven palm]

Yeah

[vocal tusk]

#game-news

[grim token]

Pre load nov 6

[twilit palm]

ready for tommorows topic in the discord “I’m on PlayStation it said the game came out today and I can’t play it!1!!1!1!1!”

[real crane]

guys is there a 10h free trial for xbox players??

[uneven palm]

Game pass and ea play

[grim token]

So that means pre load is just u can download

Ok

[uneven palm]

Yes

[gritty trench]

i hope I CAN FUCKING swear in BF2042 ^^

[glacial zephyr]

Xbox game pass ultimate is better

[tame cobalt]

You can't

[uneven palm]

I think they have a big bad word filter

[real crane]

thanks

[twilit palm]

look who learned new words at school today

[grim token]

U dont have access to bf 2042 right

[glacial zephyr]

The game rating is 18+

[tame cobalt]

16

[grim token]

Gamepass ultimate can have ea play pro for bf 2042???

[twilit palm]

and? You don’t prove you’re mature by dropping f bombs every other word?

[glacial zephyr]

It means anymore can swear

[tame cobalt]

They have a filter because they think it makes people less toxic

[oblique cloak]

it's too strong in bfV

[gritty trench]

Killing Enemys with a Gun or a knife is Okey .. but swearing at them is not

🤣

[grim token]

If someone knows

[glacial zephyr]

Of course i have

[tame cobalt]

but their filter is dogshit

[oblique cloak]

you can't write whose

[grim token]

Oh it doed

[nova sparrow]

No ea play pro is not part of gamepass

[grim token]

Oh ok

[bold thistle]

[real crane]

its part of gamepass ultimate

[nova sparrow]

Not pro

[tame cobalt]

Inb4 bf 2042 is the greatest game of all time

[oblique cloak]

melee vs melee in portal

[quartz terrace]

not pro, but ea play and only 10 hours of gameplay with this neww BF

[hasty whale]

Hurry up and Release ‼️

[quartz terrace]

6 DAYS

[nova sparrow]

Have they said how big the game is?

[quartz terrace]

42gb xbox/ps and 50 computer but not yet confimed

tomorrow we will know when xbox will preload it

[nova sparrow]

Cool thanks

[arctic grove]

Vanguard is actually one of the worst things I’ve ever played

Like no troll

[buoyant trail]

All the stuff I've heard about it.. it just sounds like garbage

[quartz terrace]

vanguard is shit

too small and no destruction

[arctic grove]

Not for those reasons

But it is ass

[topaz hazel]

Vanguard is shit

[quartz terrace]

you're right

[analog stirrup]

e-celebs right now are probably praising the shit out of it

[topaz hazel]

People only find vanguard nice because their expectations were already low as fuck

[gusty jasper]

Cod doesn't need destruction

I find it funny though that one of the animation takedowns in the game are ported from MW19, that you even see a modern day pistol model in the operator's hand

[analog stirrup]

the munitions box animation is also ripped right from mw2019 lol

[civic sentinel]

Along with the reload animations

[lyric olive]

Hey

[buoyant trail]

Imagine not quality checking that tho

[arctic grove]

Cod devs be like
"MW2019, let's copy that but make it worse."

[buoyant trail]

Maybe the campaign is the only good thing

[arctic grove]

Campaign is decent yes

[tranquil coral]

im soo hyped to get into battlefield 2042

[gusty jasper]

I forgot there was even a campaign

[arctic grove]

People buy cod for campaign

[buoyant trail]

A 4hour campaign

[gusty jasper]

4 hours ain't bad for a shooter

I think Titanfall 2 was shorter or about the same

[arctic grove]

Cold War is straight up rushed

[buoyant trail]

I don't remember how long battlefield campaigns were

[dapper berry]

titanfall 2 was a bit longer

[tame cobalt]

mp is mw but with good maps, so

[gusty jasper]

Short af

[arctic grove]

MW has good maps

[gusty jasper]

BF4 is easily a 2 and a half hour playthrough

[dapper berry]

yeah the mp is fun, way more polished than the garbage that the beta was

[pine roost]

2 and a half hours doesn't sound worth the effort to make

[arctic grove]

Call Of Duty 4 had a 15 hours campaign

[gusty jasper]

Yeah not at all, it was just there to compensate for the price tag

[dapper berry]

what

[gusty jasper]

Very obviously rushed like every bf campaign

with the exception of bf1

It seemed like they actually tried

[dapper berry]

cod4 was 6 to 8 hours at best

completionist yes maybe

[arctic grove]

Cutscenes yeah, gameplay of campaign? No fuck

[dapper berry]

but that ain't the norm

[buoyant trail]

9h is still pretty long

[arctic grove]

Not to mention replay ability

[vernal saffron]

Warzone had it's run, Portal is here to save the day

[gusty jasper]

I mean I never really find shooter campaign gameplay to ever be intriguing

I think most shooter campaigns are carried by cutscenes

[pine roost]

so most people have already finished the campaign

[dire pecan]

Portal is here to save 2042 and all mil sim games

[pine roost]

it's been out for a day right?

[gusty jasper]

"milsim"

[dapper berry]

they have to be, the principle of an FPS is just click on heads

[vernal saffron]

"milsim"...

[toxic shore]

Spec ops: The Line, only shooter that has amazing campaign worthy of praise

[vernal saffron]

Boy... you compare battlefield and cod with milsims...

[arctic grove]

Modern Warfare 2
Black Ops 1 2
Halo 1 2 3 reach
Gears Of War
Doom
Fallout New Vegas
Metro

[pine roost]

portal could turn it into a more milsim experience

[dapper berry]

titanfall 2 had a good campaign

[arctic grove]

Farcry 3

[gusty jasper]

Add Titanfall and Farcry

[toxic shore]

[arctic grove]

Do I even have to say titanfall 2

[analog stirrup]

is titanfall still owned by the hackers?

[pine roost]

tf2's campaign made you feel like a superhero, and had an underlying skill factor that made it a great campaign

[arctic grove]

I am the hacker

[gusty jasper]

Not really

[vernal saffron]

Squad, Hell Let Loose, Beyond the Wire are more milsims then Battlefield and CoD.

[lunar venture]

Vanguard is actually pretty good folks. played it for a couple of hours last night and i thoroughly enjoyed it

[gusty jasper]

Insurgency isn't a milsim

Fight me

[arctic grove]

Because milsims are niche

[toxic shore]

[arctic grove]

Ok

[arctic grove]

Have fun

[tame cobalt]

You forgot RATCHET AND CLANK RIFT APART

[stark plaza]

Where can i semd images

[arctic grove]

I am also forgot sonic 06

[gusty jasper]

Bro Splatoon?

[tame cobalt]

am srs

[vernal saffron]

Pubg

[dapper berry]

facts

[tame cobalt]

Also WOLFENSTEIN

[arctic grove]

Are you sure

[bold thistle]

wsup everyone

[arctic grove]

I can’t type everything of everything

[vagrant blade]

If you bought the regular edition can you still get access to the game

Like from the pre-order

[vernal saffron]

No,im biased

[tame cobalt]

Also BAD COMPANY 2

[hearty dock]

👀 🦑

[arctic grove]

Real life has a shitty campaign

[waxen umbra]

unbalanced AF

[tame cobalt]

work sidequest has too much filler

and boring grind

[arctic grove]

This is Alex 7

[vernal saffron]

customization behind a paywall, the tutorial takes 18 years to complete, ngl ..prettt shit

[gloomy nimbus]

I am excited for the script editor in portal

I am already coming up with game modes

[vernal saffron]

At least the graphics are dope

[arctic grove]

The internet DLC sucks ass

[arctic grove]

Dogshit

Also the community is so toxic

[tame cobalt]

[gloomy nimbus]

Progression low key broken you gotta resort to scummy tactics to get up

[waxen umbra]

Personally, I LOVE it when stories are told indirectly through environments, clues, etc. (excellent examples: Dark Souls, Metroid Prime).

[gloomy nimbus]

My favorite example is fortnite

The environmental story telling is masterful in fortnite

The cube arc was life changing and reconnect my souls to god

[waxen umbra]

didnt know this was a thing going on there but alright

[crimson wasp]

this sounds a lot like New Blood Devs

[vernal saffron]

So, in the end, how do we rate it?

[arctic grove]

Akira

[gusty jasper]

Fall guys > battlefield

[crimson wasp]

ah 😄

[gloomy nimbus]

False

[arctic grove]

2/10 fucking sucks

[gloomy nimbus]

They broke the hex mode

[arctic grove]

Skill issue

[gloomy nimbus]

They are adding a BR soon so that might be good

[vernal saffron]

Have you tried the girlfriend DLC yet?

[gloomy nimbus]

This but with gay men

[toxic shore]

Amogus > fall guys

[gloomy nimbus]

Soap trusted you

I thought I could too…

[tame cobalt]

yeah but the art direction can be mixed bag

[vernal saffron]

Boyfriend DLC, only some user complaints, but they are in the "christian" guild

[gusty jasper]

Sims 3 > Battlefield

Where's my orange arrow

[hot oak]

KSP = goty

[gloomy nimbus]

Gun of the year? Bro what are you talking about

[arctic grove]

Halo 3 trailer > just one more video before bed > 4:57 am

[hot oak]

Kerbal Space Program

[gloomy nimbus]

What year did it come out in?

[flat charm]

Reujevnation chamber, the shower stall that recovers everything, that item was epic

[gloomy nimbus]

Deez?

Guyswhoisstevejobs

Deez nuts

Gotten

[vagrant galleon]

so like, I was just thinking of this: You think that the reason the beta was really buggy and apparently was very laggy on PC was because the game is using the same 8 year old engine that they used for BF4(I will admit, a heavily modified version but it's the same)? Like, I don't think that this engine can properly handle 124 players. I think that might be the reason why the beta was apparently very buggy and stuff.

[gloomy nimbus]

Obtained

[ionic coyote]

ok

[gloomy nimbus]

It was because of a visual setting that added input lag and is used for cinematics

[vagrant galleon]

ah

[gloomy nimbus]

For some reason it was enabled by default

[vagrant galleon]

So it's probably not because they're using an 8 year old engine?

[gloomy nimbus]

Apex is on a 22 year old engine

[vagrant galleon]

Wait what

[solar tinsel]

I don't see the engine specifically being the problem

[gloomy nimbus]

They are just having development issues

[gloomy nimbus]

Source

Half life

[vagrant galleon]

Oh

[solar tinsel]

Engines get updated and reiterated on over time

That said, when you add new features, mechanics, etc... there will be bugs

[frozen adder]

hello
i feel like i lost passion to gaming
any idea or any games to recover the passion

[gloomy nimbus]

Play doom eternal

When you are done play it again on a harder difficulty

[vagrant galleon]

I think they should make a new engine at some point tho. The engine they are using, because it's 8 years old, has some things that hold it back. Maybe if they make a new engine, they can make the game even more destructible. idk maybe I'm not understanding how engines work.

[wide shore]

That would make me hate gaming

[gloomy nimbus]

You are cringe

[wide shore]

Game is infuriating enough on Normal

[snow anvil]

wait for bf 2042

1 more week

or 2 without gold/ultimate

[gloomy nimbus]

I did 3 back to back play thought of coom eternal on different difficulties

Ez game

Just don’t eat sleep or drink

[severe lark]

GUYS 7 MORE DAYS LETS GOOOOOOOO

[gloomy nimbus]

Drake emote cringe

[frozen adder]

it doesn't matter i already have the game gold
but nothing feels the same anymore

[snow anvil]

true

[wide shore]

Saying everything is cringe, cringe

[gloomy nimbus]

Start a Minecraft server with some friends

[arctic grove]

I am waiting for the new human robot dlc

[frozen adder]

i don't have friends

[gloomy nimbus]

Doom wterbql is the best game

Diaagreeing is bad

[radiant echo]

https://tenor.com/view/pout-girl-sad-cry-little-girl-gif-20041802

eyy

[wide shore]

Doom is good. But best game? That’s a bit subjective

[gloomy nimbus]

Oh you are playing league of legends

Makes sense

[radiant echo]

Doom eternal is the best fps ever imo

[vagrant galleon]

sadly I'm going to have to wait another week to play it 😔

[frozen adder]

😦

[gloomy nimbus]

*objective

[radiant echo]

but it's personal taste

[wide shore]

If you say so

[gloomy nimbus]

The only other best game arguments are terraria or MW2-BO2

[wide shore]

MW2 sucks

[vernal saffron]

You okay?

[gloomy nimbus]

Bad

[severe lark]

go get gold

[wide shore]

Black Ops 1 is better than 2.

[severe lark]

its worth i mean LOOK AT THE GAME

[gloomy nimbus]

Someone doesn’t know how to ninja defuse

[vagrant galleon]

cost $100 tho

I guess I can buy it.

[severe lark]

which game is there right now that provides you the same experience as battlefield does?

[snow anvil]

Anyone who tried vanguard yet? lmao

[gloomy nimbus]

Gimme your Venmo

[vagrant galleon]

what

[solar tinsel]

I haven't played a CoD game since MW3 ha

[snow anvil]

older battlefields

[sweet oasis]

MP40 spam is bad

[gloomy nimbus]

Vangaurd bad

[wide shore]

Good choice

[gloomy nimbus]

They have aged kinda gross

[snow anvil]

Well in the beta the whole game was bad

[solar tinsel]

(and I wasn't particular thrilled with that one either) - I liked MW2 though!

[wide shore]

MW3 was a dumpster fire

[snow anvil]

I still play BF4

[solar tinsel]

mhm

[gloomy nimbus]

Key word still

[sweet oasis]

BF1 is still poppin and BF4

[wide shore]

BF1 should forever remain poppin, cause it’s the goat

[gloomy nimbus]

It has aged in a weird way that makes it gross for new players

[arctic grove]

Cappa they never made Most Wanted 2 they made a shitty reboot in 2012

[severe lark]

played it for 2 hours

sucks a**

same shit as every year

and they try to sell it

[snow anvil]

the actual game or the beta?

[severe lark]

some bots still buy it

[snow anvil]

Lmao

[wide shore]

I can’t believe they tried to reboot the perfect racing game

[severe lark]

the game

[wide shore]

I don’t even like racing games. But 2005’s Most Wanted was basically perfect

[snow anvil]

I'm hyped for forza horizon 5

gonna get it for free because of game pass

pog

[wide shore]

Game Pass is big pog

[snow anvil]

indeed

[severe lark]

just like the tuk tuk

[wide shore]

True

Beep beep

[severe lark]

beep beep into tornado

[wide shore]

Why drive when you can fly

[severe lark]

im honest guys i cant wait any longer xd

[gusty jasper]

Prostreet was the best need for speed

[severe lark]

cmoooooooooooon

[wide shore]

Wingsuiting into the tornado is gonna be some type of badass

[gloomy nimbus]

Burnout paradise

cou gg s on you

[gusty jasper]

TAKE ME DOWN TO THE PARADISE CITY

[gloomy nimbus]

I am boutta have a wet fart

[severe lark]

gonna do road to lvl 999 as fast as possible

[gusty jasper]

Stunt car enthusiast

[gloomy nimbus]

Nerd

[vagrant galleon]

do any of y'all think that at some point DICE should make a new engine? Maybe I'm not understanding how engines work, but I think that a new engine could mean better destruction and stuff right?

[gloomy nimbus]

They should add the AEK but make it bad

[severe lark]

by playing hazard zone

[gloomy nimbus]

Just to fuck with AEK nerds

[broken plank]

A new engine won't be made for a while now I believe

[vagrant galleon]

ah

[gloomy nimbus]

Why make a new engine?

[severe lark]

honestly i think hazard zone will be kinda cringe

[broken plank]

wont know until you try it

[severe lark]

true

[solar tinsel]

It could be, but an engine is not something you necessarily WANT to make so often. Then each dev team has to keep relearning a new toolset. Engines do stick around for a while if they work well

and Frostbite 3 has made some great Battlefield games

[broken plank]

^

[gloomy nimbus]

Make new engine: 🚫
Make apex in a 22 yo engine: ✅

[vagrant galleon]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that BF2042 and other games after BF4 are held back on certain things(like destruction) because the engine is still using technology from 8 years ago.

[severe lark]

my guess is that all the noobs are gonna be in all out warfare so it should be easy to farm there since the more experienced players all go to portal lul

[gusty jasper]

Wat?

[vagrant galleon]

Am I understanding how engines work correctly?

[gusty jasper]

BF2042 uses an updated version of frostbite

[solar tinsel]

I mean, thats more or less, but what other things would you be looking for?

[gloomy nimbus]

They are held back by hardware constraints

[solar tinsel]

Frostbite 3 already supports microdestruction, and obviously BF4 made levolution work

[gusty jasper]

Frostbite 3 has multiple builds and every new bf release makes incremental changes to suit the next game

[arctic grove]

bf next week lets goooooooooooooooooooooo

[solar tinsel]

I think a thing to realize is also, the lack of TOTAL map obliteration is a choice. Bad Company generally had more massive destruction, but the mainline BF franchise has always generally kept map structures in place

[vagrant galleon]

like uh, more "advanced" destruction or smthn.

[gusty jasper]

So BF2042 may use the same code name engine "Frostbite 3"

[severe lark]

yessir!

[gusty jasper]

But

[solar tinsel]

can you be more specific?

[gusty jasper]

It's different from the build used in 2013

[solar tinsel]

I'll say this: if you can't really articulate what "more advanced" would be, then another engine probably isn't needed

[gloomy nimbus]

Yeah it is a different engine

It just has the same name because patenting is a bitch

[vagrant galleon]

Okay so, the destruction in BF4 and other games is good, but it isn't perfect. You can't destroy everything, there are a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense that you can't destroy(like a tank shell in BF4 can't destroy a metal beam for some reason)

[solar tinsel]

Right, but that's not necessarily an engine limitation, DICE probably COULD make that beam destructable

[vagrant galleon]

oh

[solar tinsel]

However, it's a conscious choice (and likely a hardware consideration) to not make everything destructable

[vagrant galleon]

ohhhh, okay that makes sense

[solar tinsel]

If you could raze levels to the ground, it's not a map anymore

(BC games did it like this more)

[vagrant galleon]

so the reason why not everything is destructable is not because of the engine, right?

[solar tinsel]

No I wouldn't say so

With the engine, devs can control what can or can't be subject to destruction

[nova idol]

We've seen whats possible with Frosbite

[visual horizon]

not necessarily, it's likely due to performance, that's a whole lotta particles to render

[hot oak]

I thought destruction was map dependent. Like orbital building are much more durable than shanties on discarded

[solar tinsel]

yup, performance, gameplay balance, network syncing, all that. Good reasons to not make EVERYTHING destructable

[vagrant galleon]

yeah, but the new consoles and high end pcs should be able to run that right?

[solar tinsel]

I think it's more "per object" basis, but yeah typically maps with large uniqye structures are more durable

[vagrant galleon]

Maybe I'm overestimating the technology of the consoles and even the high high end computers.

[solar tinsel]

whereas the more copy and paste buildings tend to be destructable

this way, the unique structures that make a map unique, stay there

[visual horizon]

i mean, yeah, but it's got to be suited to a range of specs, it's just easier to have it as it is, i mean, it still looks good

[hot oak]

Well you need to consider the new scale of the game. 128 players on much bigger maps and way more objects.

[solar tinsel]

Here's the thing, if you leveled every building and structure on Orbital, it just becomes terrain. People have already complained as is regarding lack of structures

So DICE purposely does not want everything destructable

[gusty jasper]

Depends on the type of destruction you want. Dynamic physics destruction like in BFV applied to all map geometry would require a lot of calculations sent to your hardware. On top of that, models are broken into chunks called "gibs" that spawn in real time to mimic destruction

[gloomy nimbus]

The limit on destruction comes from a mixture of balancing and the fact that the game is on last gen consoles

[gusty jasper]

That adds up the more players on a map destroying things at the same time

[hot oak]

Fuck it give the VAB on orbital the siege of Shanghai levolution event

[gusty jasper]

There's a reason why BF4/BF3 had presimulated destruction

[solar tinsel]

I think the dynamic weather in 2042 is a good example of what can be done when expanding upon the existing engine.

[gusty jasper]

because it only plays an animation, not a physics simulation

[gloomy nimbus]

I wish the rocket could fall and launch at the same time and crush into the buildings

[solar tinsel]

Right, for the levolution events

[gusty jasper]

No

Walls too

[solar tinsel]

gotcha

[vagrant galleon]

ah, wish that bf had like a physics simulation like you said for destruction.

[solar tinsel]

didn't one of the BC games have more simulated destruction?

[vagrant galleon]

be cool

[gusty jasper]

Particles/entities break from the wall with pre-cached animations

I'm not sure about bad company because I don't really play that franchise

[sullen violet]

There are many ways of doing destruction in games, the most likely way is despawn hit object/object part then spawn particle system

[solar tinsel]

It's been a while now, I think the engine has the capability though, but you're right, a lot of it is precompiled just to make it work

games gotta run!

[hot oak]

As long as the destruction isn't as cheesy as Vanguard's I'll be happy.

[vagrant galleon]

also uh, maybe I'm just being dumb and not understanding how tank shells work, but like another thing is that in BF4 when you are in a tank for example and you shoot at a wall, it should just make a hole through that wall and not take down the entire wall right?

[sullen violet]

In bf4 i think you have to hit enough walls for rubble animation to start

[gloomy nimbus]

I think battlefield could just adopt the micro destruction system from siege and then add an impact multiplier so larger things would physically simulate destruction that same way smaller things are but Witt bigger model Chunks to reduce lag

Given the game is on last gen so that won’t work

[hot oak]

I'd love to have wall penetration.

I'd let the devs penetrate me if they did that

[gloomy nimbus]

It would also run better than pre rendered on newer hardware

But older shit like PS4 and Xbone doesn’t have the tech to handle anything real-time

I hope the scripting in portal is strong enough to allow that

[vagrant galleon]

idk if portal will allow you to modify the engine like that idk

[gloomy nimbus]

That might be an in bake tho bc of fragment models

[hot oak]

Yeah I'm excited to fuck with the rules editor in portal

[solar tinsel]

I doubt Portal will let you make significant engine-level changes

like: being able to change HOW the engine works

[gloomy nimbus]

Portal has no engine mods but it will have scripting editors that allow users to code manipulations and modifications

[vagrant galleon]

hopefully you can insert more maps than what was showcased

[gloomy nimbus]

I don’t even care about portal rule editor, I can’t wait for the scarily editor

[vagrant galleon]

I mean, the maps they showcased for portal were good

But I want BF1 with 124 players

[hot oak]

I think they're calling the scripting portion the Rules Editor

[solar tinsel]

Portal has, TECHNICALLY 13 maps, but also some of those have different size configs

7 2042 maps + 6 Legacy maps

[noble ruin]

The 2042 OST doesn't really sound like battle themes it's more like suspenseful with hopelessness, it's going to be interesting how they fit in the game

[hot oak]

At least that's how I read it in the blog

[vagrant galleon]

no BF1, right?

[gloomy nimbus]

I want BF1 content in portal so that a 128 player realism mode could be made

I also just want to make a realism mode

[vagrant galleon]

hopefully they add more maps to portal

[solar tinsel]

That will undoubtedly be makeable, heck I wouldn't be surprised if Ripple Effect makes it a premade offering

[solar tinsel]

I'd like to THINK the plan is to occasionally do content drops of other games

so for example one season may be a BF2 season, with 2 BF2 maps, the classes, some of the weps/vehicles, etc.

[gloomy nimbus]

And a new operations mode where each team is split into 2 fireteam with different objectives that converge

[solar tinsel]

another may be a BF1 season

[hot oak]

I'd be surprised if they didn't use assets from BF1 and BFV for the remastered 1942 maps. I think we'll for sure see BF1 content.

[solar tinsel]

I do hope we eventually see the Rules Editor (scripting) make its way to Conquest, it will just be for TDM/FFA for launch. Still cool, but I can imagine some fun mode modifications for Conquest

[gloomy nimbus]

Like half the guys would come in from the water on orbital and siege the rocket while the other group would paradrop into that refinery area in the woods and do like stealth and then they would converge onto the complex and the towers

[stiff pollen]

Knowing dice the rule editor for conquest results in the game crashing half the time

[solar tinsel]

thats probably why its' not in yet 😆

[stiff pollen]

Frostbite is a rough engine

[gloomy nimbus]

Wait no rule editor at launch?

[hot oak]

Same. I want to be able to add/remove/move objectives and change the playable area.

[solar tinsel]

There is, but FFA or TDM only

[stiff pollen]

No rule editor for core modes only FFA and TDM iirc

[gloomy nimbus]

F

[solar tinsel]

By "Rule Editor" we mean the logic scripting

I imagine Ripple needs more time with Conquest logic and integrating that

you have more mode logic in Conquest than TDM/FFA

[stiff pollen]

Logic editor yes

[gloomy nimbus]

Whatever I still have to plan these modes out but I am definitely gonna be making some custom game modes

[stiff pollen]

No logic editor for conquest or breakthrough yet

[solar tinsel]

Yeah, hopefully one day though!

[stiff pollen]

Knowing ripple effect we’ll eventually get it

They’re really good on it

[hot oak]

I don't think you'd need scripting for realism mode. Turn HUD off and fuck with health @gloomy nimbus

[solar tinsel]

100% that can be done likely easily in the core builder

[mortal prism]

👀

[hot oak]

It's not polite to stare

[solar tinsel]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ripple has that as a feature pre-made option

[gloomy nimbus]

Yeah but speed, bullet velocity, movement, recoil, vehicle maneuverability.

[solar tinsel]

heck even some of that is in the builder still!

[gloomy nimbus]

To make a good realism mode you are gonna need a lot of fine tuning other wise it is just haha insta kill

[hot oak]

Speed, bullet velocity, movement, and recoil can all be modified without scripting. Idk about vehicles

[vagrant galleon]

ya know what's crazy to think: although 124 players is a lot, it's still very small in terms of actual battles. ik that it's like, hardware limitations and stuff but like, just wanted to say that.

[gloomy nimbus]

Yeah but current vehicle maneuvering systems would be really bad in a realism mode

Like I enjoy the vehicles but they don’t move realistically

[hot oak]

Well you may be able to change it I just don't remember. Peep the blob they have screenshots of the editor

[solar tinsel]

It's possible you might get ***some ***control in that in the Rules Editor, like Im sure you can change vehicle speed, health, etc.

[gloomy nimbus]

You can’t change it in the basic editor

[solar tinsel]

HANDLING.... eh idk

it depends on how nitty gritty they let you get

[hot oak]

Vehicles were all sorts of wonky in the beta. Namely the humvee thing

[gloomy nimbus]

I mean looking at screenshots of some of the available phrases it looks possible

There are some really deep things in there

[solar tinsel]

there is a "GAMEPLAY" category for expressions, so

perhaps that could lie in there

[hot oak]

And it's all just sliders and toggles.

I'd love to have been on the team making that editor

[gloomy nimbus]

The slider and toggles are the more shallow side

There is also a script editor that allows you to actually program and script things

[solar tinsel]

to a extent, of course 😉

but yeah it's pretty deep

[hot oak]

Yeah I know but the editor is pretty in depth already. Then you just go fucking nuts with the logic editor

[gloomy nimbus]

Hold up

[tame cobalt]

Portal

[gloomy nimbus]

Imma look at the logic editor screenshots we have

I hope you can at least drop extra props into maps

[hot oak]

Variables is likely where you'd go to add/change constants

[solar tinsel]

InputRestrictions() give me some pretty fun/stupid ideas

Red Light Green Light Battlefield style 😛

[hot oak]

Some civil war type shit where you can only walk straight forward lmao

[gloomy nimbus]

No aiming mode

[solar tinsel]

haha

snipers only no aiming

[gloomy nimbus]

Holy shit if there is no bow I will lose it

[solar tinsel]

No-Pat No-Scope

[tame cobalt]

[solar tinsel]

ha, bows only?

[gloomy nimbus]

I really want to make a 128 player sticks and stones lobby from bloopers twoopers

[solar tinsel]

Bowttlefield

[mental stone]

Is it just me that wants the game to be delayed so that the game comes out with better polishing 🤔🤔

[gloomy nimbus]

If they added BF1 content we could have a mode with only horses, melee, bows, and other 16th century shenanigans

[hot oak]

I need a broken pos NOW

[runic vortex]

Battlefield: ooga booga warfare

[gloomy nimbus]

Imagine medieval warfare with different classes like an archer or knight

[runic vortex]

It would be super slow paced

[gloomy nimbus]

I think to make portal perfect they just need some BF1 and 2142 content

[gloomy nimbus]

It would be balanced out by having 128 people on a 64 player map

[gloomy nimbus]

And of course full editing for core modes

[hot oak]

I'd like to make search and destroy in BF

[indigo flame]

Just get Bannerlord

[gloomy nimbus]

But it isn’t battlefield

[indigo flame]

It sucks but it’s great

[tame cobalt]

i wanna be a better squadleader but im too dumb to give good strategic orders

[indigo flame]

I mean, it’s not but it is

Like it has classes and conquest modes and destruction

[gloomy nimbus]

I hope battlefield allows you to choose what parts of the game you install

[hot oak]

Just mash Q on the objective you're running at

[honest parrot]

Is it risky to pre order Battlefield now?

Or worth it

[gloomy nimbus]

So that way they can add way more portal content and people can’t complain about file size bc they could just not have all the portal shit installed

[indigo flame]

Well it’s not worth it

No reason to tbh

But I did and I’m not gonna lose sleep over it

[tame cobalt]

wut

[gloomy nimbus]

You can refund it after the game comes out same as if you bought it normally

[hot oak]

tbh having big map will help make decisions based on what's going on all over the map

[gloomy nimbus]

That is how steam works

[honest parrot]

I will play it on ps5, not steam

[indigo flame]

Well if you preorder the switch version you’re SOL

[gloomy nimbus]

Don’t buy it at all

[honest parrot]

Why?

[gloomy nimbus]

Not until the Guinea pigs do

There is a chance it is unplayable on console

[indigo flame]

“Unplayable”

[hot oak]

Just piggy back off me bois

I'll make regualar updates starting the 12th

[solar tinsel]

I'll say this, if you're unsure about a purchase, it's prudent to wait for reviews and launch impressions. Watch launch gameplay, and see if it's something you want (wrong tag again HA)

[gloomy nimbus]

And on console there is no refunds

So just let other people play it on console and then if it is good on console, get it

[solar tinsel]

If you KNOW you want the game, go right on ahead, but if you're in a state of "should I?" the best info will be from reviews and impressions, and your own chance to see it in action

[thin lynx]

Is pre ordering worth it?

[gloomy nimbus]

I would pre order gold rn

[indigo flame]

The embargo for content creators lifts on the 11th anyway

[gloomy nimbus]

Bro scroll up

[solar tinsel]

check my post right above yours

[gloomy nimbus]

But I am trying to get VR

[honest parrot]

I asked the same just before 😅

[rough tinsel]

ea play pro is the way to go imho

[gloomy nimbus]

Cringe

[honest parrot]

Ok Thanks

[gloomy nimbus]

I have base EA play bc of game pass so what ever

[indigo flame]

should i preorder the game do you think or should I wait till release?

[gloomy nimbus]

Bro..

[hot oak]

Do you guys think preording is a good idea?

[solar tinsel]

This must be a joke now

😆

[gloomy nimbus]

Hey guys

[solar tinsel]

yup

[thin lynx]

Lol

[rough tinsel]

what

[gloomy nimbus]

I was thinking of pre ordering?

Should I do it?

[hot oak]

lmao

[rough tinsel]

are you mad ?

[solar tinsel]

Post-ordering is better

[prime grove]

…

[hot oak]

I'm UPSET

[indigo flame]

Literally scroll up dude I just asked that

[solar tinsel]

Pre-Post Order

[gloomy nimbus]

Static ordering

[hot oak]

precum order

[solar tinsel]

I think thats the same as preordering for many lol

[hot oak]

It is in my case

I've been edged by the marketing for this game

[rough tinsel]

only thing edgy here is greenadri

[solar tinsel]

Will pre-ordering help me save 15% or more on my car insurance though?

[honest parrot]

Whoever is asking to pre order, here's a good answer

[indigo flame]

You’te thinking of Farmers

[solar tinsel]

Can I pre-order my car's extended warranty?

[sour ginkgo]

Anyone else excited for vanguard 😄

[solar tinsel]

Politely, I will say no

but more power to those who are

[indigo flame]

I’m excited for the people who are excited for vanguard, because I’m an adult who doesn’t give a shit what other people play

[thin lynx]

What’s vanguard?

[hot oak]

Nah I already have a fuck load of hours in MW19

[sour ginkgo]

New cod game

[honest parrot]

He's being sarcastic

[thin lynx]

^

[solar tinsel]

Vanguard is one of the world's largest investment companies with 30 million investors changing the way the world invests.

30 MILLION PLAYERS? wow get rekt BF2042

[woven tulip]

Lot of ‘‘em raving about the multiplayer.

[honest parrot]

How are the reviews for vanguard, I heard its like the worst cod in terms of reviews 😂

[stiff pollen]

It’s good

Zombies is bad tho

[hollow rivet]

😂😂💀💀

[thin lynx]

Yeah I heard zombies is not that good

[woven tulip]

I heard the campaign is mediocre but multiplayer is bomb.

[sour ginkgo]

Right it looks fun

[arctic grove]

I'm taking my talent to ready or not at void interactive I had enough of Ubisoft mistreatment of me and neglect I hope montage follow me

I ask DICE. But they ignore me

[solar tinsel]

I have a feeling if 2042 had a campaign we'd probably hear something similar

[woven tulip]

Yeah

[sour ginkgo]

Will bf2042 come out with a br later?

[woven tulip]

I’m excited for Portal. 🔥

[thin lynx]

I really don’t mind not having a campaign

[solar tinsel]

I don't expect it to

Hazard Zone will kind of fill that itch, a bit

[tranquil coral]

im excited for the game in general the game looks soo clean

[thin lynx]

Hazard zone should have been f2p

[median coral]

I can preorder and preload the next day, awesome

[solar tinsel]

or Portal modes that perhaps offer a "prioritize surviving" experience, but I don't think DICE will chace a full blown BR mode again

[hot oak]

They did mention a F2P element coming later in the earnings call

idk what that means

[solar tinsel]

oh did they?

specifically to 2042?

[hot oak]

mhm

[indigo flame]

Potentially. They talked about reworking HZ into a BR mode of it proves unsuccessful with the player base. Moreover, EA has mentioned a few days ago about adding a f2p element to Battlwfield some time after the release of Battlefield Mobile

[hot oak]

2042. Correct

[median coral]

Hazard zone becomes EA’s Warzone aka a mash of all the future titles and 2042

[solar tinsel]

I do expect something will go F2P, and I think HZ is a natural point for that

[hot oak]

God damn I hate that picture

[solar tinsel]

Hazard Zone is something that can continue across All-out-Warfare entries, which makes it a good candidate for F2P

[stiff pollen]

Hazard zone won’t go free to play anytime soon

Andrew confirmed it

[median coral]

And can have more than 1 game’s set of specialists

[stiff pollen]

And the CEO always has the last word

[solar tinsel]

indeed

[indigo flame]

Tell that to the board of directors

[median coral]

Whatever goes FTP it’ll probably have integration with all future games and 2042, warzone prooved that works

[stone hatch]

so about an hour ago I got an alert from my bank where EA went to charge me for my pre-order, then got another alert to call my bank.
called the bank and said a merchant reported they were compromised and they have to lock my card and send me a new one, at the exact time EA tried to bill me. not sure if its related but i thought it was strange.

[indigo flame]

low key I get triggered whenever someone abbreviates Free to Play as FTP. Maybe I’m too old, idk if people use that anymore

[solar tinsel]

right, I'd have to imagine it'd need to be an ongoing experience where you don't lose your previously earned cosmetics

[stiff pollen]

Board of directors is a bunch of doddering old dudes they don’t understand anything cept dollar signs and ROI

[sour ginkgo]

Hopefully ur right, bf making a br mode would be the best thing to happen in gaming since cod mw2

[solar tinsel]

Didn't Firestorm tank? from what I heard?

I admittedly didn't get BFV

I heard it didn't do well though, and that a lot of 2042's marketing approach was to distance from BR

[sour ginkgo]

Not sure dont think i played it

[solar tinsel]

Well that WAS Battlefield's BR

[proven igloo]

5 more sleeps

[thin lynx]

I feel like if a br mode with 2042’s future setting might work maybe

[indigo flame]

I mean… yeah. If it’s decided a f2p/BR mode will generate beaucoup bucks, then they will add one to the game.

[solar tinsel]

I don't think DICE will want to chase BR because then it becomes ANOTHER BR to compete with a saturated field. I'd rather have Battlefield perfect All out Warfare or Hazard Zone

[sour ginkgo]

Hopefully theyve learned their lesson from it then and took notes from warzone

[median coral]

Yeah you can hardly get 15 people now

[solar tinsel]

I mean shit is their a world in which the All out Warfare experience goes F2P? Do they just keep expanding the 2042 world? Then again, would be weird if they have to change time periods

and you like: put Irish as a character in 2140 or something

[indigo flame]

I mean I feel like it yanked because it was behind a paywall. CoD had the right idea. Their first BR was behind a paywall, didn’t do so hit, then they released Warzone for free and now they get like millions of dollars from it a day

[solar tinsel]

good point

[sour ginkgo]

Word

[median coral]

Pretty sure Ubisoft and EA prefer Xbox compared to PlayStation

Like how Activision prefers PS

[solar tinsel]

Not a "preference", just a marketing deal

[solar tinsel]

From a marketing perspective, they will, partner for exclusive content and ads with them

[spark rapids]

Sad

[solar tinsel]

but they're going to make the game as good as they can on every platform, cause they will make money from everyone

Good! you?

[drifting cave]

Why is the preload for xbox the 6th and for ps4 and pc the 10th?

[spark rapids]

BF2042 is not out yet :((

[indigo flame]

Lore goes out the window as soon as shared content becomes a thing. Don’t try to untangle the spaghetti that is the lore of Warzone. Like 2019 dudes paling around with 1984 dudes flying spitfires in 1942 with Judge Dredd and Michael Myers. Just complete nonsense

[solar tinsel]

I heard somewhere that Xbox standardizes 4 day preloads, but I could be wrong about that

[median coral]

Any chance they announce its coming sooner for Xbox? Because Nov 6th feels really early

[solar tinsel]

haha fair enough

[solar tinsel]

No it still launches 12th (for early access)

[median coral]

That’s even sooner then

[solar tinsel]

sorrry

[median coral]

It said the 12th like a few days ago

[solar tinsel]

12th

It launches the same for everyone. Xbox just has an earlier preload for some reason

[drifting cave]

I just got the ultimate for 15 bucks

[median coral]

How

[solar tinsel]

like I said, it may just be what Xbox requires or asks for from publishers

[drifting cave]

Ea play pro

[spark rapids]

Omamagad how???

[median coral]

Oh

[spark rapids]

A

[thin lynx]

That’s a good deal

[median coral]

Don’t you gotta pay monthly to keep it tho?

[proven igloo]

If it takes you longer than 2 days to download a game, your connection is likely too slow to play an online game anyway.

[drifting cave]

Yea its worth it in my opinion

[median coral]

Mine will take less than 2 hours

[sour ginkgo]

Does xbox still make you pay to play multiplayer?

[thin lynx]

What else do you get with the ea subscription?

[spark rapids]

What game on earth takes two days to download is my question

[median coral]

For free games no

For paid games yes

[drifting cave]

Alot more games

[sour ginkgo]

Pain

[median coral]

Ultimate is worth it IMO

[sour ginkgo]

5 down 10 up

[drifting cave]

Yea

[sour ginkgo]

How much is it

[median coral]

@drifting cave doesn’t EA play give BF2042 items monthly now?

[median coral]

$15 a month

[thin lynx]

Isn’t the ultimate 100 bucks?

[drifting cave]

Think so

[median coral]

I’m talking about gamepass

[spark rapids]

Depends on the country i think

[thin lynx]

Oh

[sonic grove]

When does 2042 come out for ps4 pre-orders? 19th?

[drifting cave]

I dont got game pass ultimate tho

[solar tinsel]

Ultimate $120 USD
Gold $100 USD
Standard Cross Gen $70 USD
Standard Last Gen $60 USD

[median coral]

Gamepass ultimate includes EA play meaning you also get a monthly pack for BF2042

[spark rapids]

What edition did you preorder?

[sonic grove]

I'd have to check but likely the cheapest

[proven igloo]

1500/940

[solar tinsel]

12th for Gold/Ultimate Early Access, 19th for everyone else

[median coral]

I get to preorder the game today and preload it tomorrow

[spark rapids]

Its cheaper than that in my country

[drifting cave]

Kinda sucks that xbox game pass only gives ea play not ea play pro

[median coral]

Leaks are likely coming tomorrow then too since Xbox files are datamineable

[spark rapids]

If its the cheapest then it releases on november 19th

[drifting cave]

200 up 30 down

[proven igloo]

$130/month is nothing when you don't watch cable TV

[median coral]

My provider recently upgraded their host servers so everyone got a free cap upgrade

I now have a cap of 400 down instead of 200

[drifting cave]

Nice

[median coral]

My Xbox gets into the 300’s constantly now instead of the 100’s since it isn’t limited

I can download Cold War within a couple hours now

[drifting cave]

Wish there was bf4 in portal tho

[solar tinsel]

In time, I'm sure

[thin lynx]

I wonder if I’ll have decent frames in 2042

[spark rapids]

BF 2142 would be very cool in portal

[median coral]

Series X allows up to 1000 Mbps compared to one’s 200 so that’s nice

[proven igloo]

I live in the lands of unlimited. 😎

[tame cobalt]

Unlike you I actually have such internet and I can confirm online games work just fine 👍

Recommended speed for online gaming is like 500 Kb/s or something. It's ridiculously low

Yes.

[median coral]

It’s future proofed

[drifting cave]

Yes

[proven igloo]

Are you a time traveller from 2000?

[orchid root]

Xbox has a faster pre-load than others?

[tame cobalt]

No.

[median coral]

Series X is also capable of running 8K 30fps later on

[drifting cave]

Dude the super jump in the beta was op

[solar tinsel]

Dare I say it, but I actually like higher quality visuals @ 30fps for photo-realistic cinematic experiences

[median coral]

8K 60 FPS takes a beefy device to run and most games don’t support it

[solar tinsel]

Like: God of War, TLoU, etc.

Assuming the motion blur quality is good

[spark rapids]

The apex season 11 update took over 3 hours for me

[median coral]

8K won’t be supported for a long time

[tame cobalt]

O

[median coral]

Like 4K used to be seen as insane compared to 1080p for years

[orchid root]

I would be glad with 1080p and 60 fps

[solar tinsel]

You mean as in how often you see people with 8K displays?

[median coral]

Once they drop in price like 4K is it’ll be more supported

Like what happened with 4K

[spark rapids]

Me

[solar tinsel]

the thing is, resolution has a saturation point. For 8K to be perceptually better, you need to have a large enough display and/or or be close enough

[median coral]

1080 used to be king for a long time

[median coral]

8K I think is the end due to that

[solar tinsel]

8K may become more prevalent one day, but I really think it's more about other display technology now: wider color gamuts, HDR, SSD speeds, haptics like what the PS5 is doing

[median coral]

Until wallpaper TVs take off that allow for cheap huge ass TVs

[solar tinsel]

right

[runic prism]

How much is 500Kb/s = in mbps or?

[orchid root]

Still have ps4 with a 1080p tv for the past 2 years before that, my tv was 720p

[buoyant charm]

Guys , someone knows when Portal and HZ gonna be playable ? 12th or 19th ?

[solar tinsel]

0.5 Mbps I believe

[median coral]

Wallpaper TVs are gonna take over flat screen some time soon

[runic prism]

12 is early acces for gold/ultimate and 19 for standard edition

[median coral]

The price is starting to drop

And more companies are making it

[runic prism]

So it is like 50mbps or?

[fiery solar]

no no

[median coral]

Flat screens will become the next CRT TV

Way more heavy and bulky than new options

[solar tinsel]

I think you're confusing Mb with MB "mb" isn't a thing

milibytes haha

[buoyant charm]

That dont respond my question but thanks , because in BETA a message says Portal and HZ can be playable on 19th , only asking if this change to 12th for both modes?

[runic prism]

I have like 88mbps and i still have lag in battlefront 2 sometimes☠️☠️

[solar tinsel]

if you're talking about bits to bytes....

1 MB = 8 Mb

[median coral]

In general tech is about to have a huge jump period again within the 2020’s

[runic prism]

I mean Mbps*

[solar tinsel]

500 Kbps is 0.5 Mbps

[tame cobalt]

8k is pointless

[median coral]

Quantum is starting to become real though

[runic prism]

Oh what. How can 0,5 Mbps be enough?

[median coral]

Something thought to be impossible not too long ago

[runic prism]

No. 8K is like almost better then real life haha

[solar tinsel]

It certainly doesn't SOUND like enough, what are you referring to exactly though?

[median coral]

Quantum computers allow for a tech power jump larger than any current computer will reach this century

[runic prism]

Jes*

[tame cobalt]

because you're not using ethernet

[median coral]

That’s why it’s being developed so fast

Much more efficient than normal PCs

[runic prism]

Im using a ethernet cat 5E

[solar tinsel]

Honestly though, latency/ping is probably more relevant here if we're talking about gaming

DOWNLOADING, different story

[tame cobalt]

Bingo

[solar tinsel]

and yes 0.5Mbps is painfully slow for internet download speeds

[runic prism]

I have like 88Mbps and i still have sometimes lag in battlefront 2. So im now saying like how can 0,5Mbps be enough

[median coral]

Quantum computing is the future

[solar tinsel]

Who has 0.5 Mbps?

[median coral]

Huge computer rooms with them exist

[solar tinsel]

But again: if you're talking about lag: PING is more relevant

[median coral]

It’ll slowly shrink like older systems did

[tame cobalt]

that lag isn't caused by your download speed then

[runic prism]

No someone was saying that 500Kbps was enough for gaming

[median coral]

Within the 2020’s - 2040’s

[proven igloo]

Distance from the data centre and the routing between you and there also has an effect.

[oak canyon]

field of battle

[solar tinsel]

I mean idk if there is some minimum bandwidth speed you need, but in theory if 500Kbps was enough, and you had a lightning short ping, then you'd likely still not have much lag

However, 500kbps doesn't even seem like enough bandwidth

[tame cobalt]

Lag is caused by ping and the stability of your connection

[solar tinsel]

I don't know how MUCH data is piped through for MP. I know it's not a lot though usually

[median coral]

Meta is about to kick off the biggest tech arms race yet

[oak canyon]

do you know

that

battlefield

is a game

[empty coral]

I hope I go in a coma for 7 days

[runic prism]

Why?

[empty coral]

Early acces

[solar tinsel]

I do not wish for that upon you 😆

[tame cobalt]

I play online games just fine with 3Mbps

[solar tinsel]

Right I'm sure that's plenty. I am genuinely curious how much data gets sent for gaming. It's really just small bits of text and whatever

[oak canyon]

i wont be able to play battlefield for long because ill be in georgia

[runic prism]

Do you mean the router to my ps5?(distance)

[empty coral]

Bring your console or pc with you

[tame cobalt]

Maybe the matchmaking puts you in the wrong region sometimes

[proven igloo]

Your traffic goes through multiple routers before it reaches EA's servers.

[tranquil kettle]

i mean ping doesnt depend on internet speed

[median coral]

I have 10ish MB upload and it works just fine

[tranquil kettle]

it depend on how close you are to the server

and internet quality over speed

[solar tinsel]

Right, as long as the bandwidth is high enough to send how much data the game needs (which isn't much), it all comes down to that latency

[solar tinsel]

1Mbps @ 10ms would perform better than 200Mbps @ 250ms

[median coral]

My WiFi to my phone is shit though but that’s because phones don’t need a ton of download and upload speeds atm

[tranquil kettle]

indeed

[median coral]

So the receivers in the phones aren’t the best

[arctic grove]

I got 1gb of wifi bandwidth

[tranquil kettle]

wifi 6?

[gloomy nimbus]

CASTLE

[median coral]

My phone also has hotspots included so

[tranquil kettle]

i have 980 mbs in download with ethernet

[arctic grove]

Wifi 7

[tranquil kettle]

bruh

[solar tinsel]

gigabit service?

[tranquil kettle]

yes

[median coral]

I have 400 max on mine so

[arctic grove]

There there everything will be ok

[solar tinsel]

mind me asking what you're paying for it?

[median coral]

It’s enough though

[solar tinsel]

I'm just curious what the price points are these days for that

[tranquil kettle]

27 euros a month iirc