battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

Your not a battlefield player unless you get a noise complaint at 4am

By screaming hand Grenada

Immersion is when I do your mom

[vestal lichen]

"Quit yelling about some guy who took your fockin' 'jeep-stuff' at 2 in the morning, we're trying to sleep!"

[sullen badge]

ok? Do i even know you?

[arctic grove]

That is why it’s immersive

[sullen badge]

You're an asshole, Don't ping me again

[tame cobalt]

[vestal lichen]

💀

[austere thicket]

For past battlefield’s has dice shown the server browser before the game comes out. or is the first time They haven’t with 2042.? Sorry if that question makes no sense.

[vestal lichen]

Wow that's a your mom joke gone quite wrong

[dense torrent]

ur mom jokes in 2021. thats so 2009 xD

[vocal tusk]

Play any BF game (But especially 1/V) with no UHD and its difficult to identify friend from foe fast enough to not be killed if its an enemy. the no HUD argument doesnt carry much weight with me

BFV as an example

https://youtu.be/6ke7mgyzX58

[tame cobalt]

Immersion is when you get muted

[arctic grove]

Neo went from 0 to 100

[green breach]

Wished I had a role so I can post badass battlefield pics

[scarlet cloak]

There will be a server browser when the game drops, especially for portal since it's browser based

[arctic grove]

No immersion than huh

[stray zealot]

what's the best browser?

[dense torrent]

chrome

[arctic grove]

Super Mario 3D

[green breach]

Explorer...to download Firefox

[vestal lichen]

literally battlefield 5

[scarlet cloak]

Internet edge

[arctic grove]

Gta5

[arctic grove]

Just like real life

[dense torrent]

yo this reminds me. there was this app literary titled "Battlefield FPS Shooter 2021" or something and the screenshots are literary stolen bf3 assets XD

[austere thicket]

OK good ,because that’s kind of what makes battlefield battlefield and sorry that was kind of a stupid question.

[vocal tusk]

BFV as an example Yes....as was stated, read

[scarlet cloak]

Nah it's all good lol

[green breach]

And shotguns are pretty op in real life. They got distance on them. And I'm not talking about slugs either

[arctic grove]

This?

[slim quiver]

Guns are OP irl

[arctic grove]

Let’s try is out

[dense torrent]

yep but unlike BF4, BF3, BFhardline, BF1, (Anything before BFV) Servers will not be rentable. the last player that leaves is when the game will shut down

[arctic grove]

FR Devs need to nerf them

[vestal lichen]

you see my main point is that's battlefield 5

[dense torrent]

yea, theres like 10,000 apps like that xD

[scarlet cloak]

I don't mind that tbh

[remote kiln]

[arctic grove]

Sledge from Mario Odyssey

I thought humans were OP but only 5% of the race can actually beat a Karen smh

[sullen badge]

Yea because i just went for a nap, wake up and jump on discord and some clown i don't even know talks smack about my mom

[green breach]

I'm sure rent a server will come back

[slim quiver]

my hope is one day battlefield transitions into evolving the gunplay into one that makes the game ultimately more punishing while keeping arcade the arcade style

[green breach]

At least for PC

[arctic grove]

Guns don’t kill people I do

[dense torrent]

My mom is cool so... B)))

[arctic grove]

Since when did Australians switch to mom?

I wasn't told of this

[sullen badge]

It's interchangeable

[vocal tusk]

So you one day hope for BFV at release 😛

[vestal lichen]

So just battlefield gunplay but it's as punishing as not choosing the correct linear path among the claymores in hunt down the freeman

[slim quiver]

BFV was a start, but never perfected itself

[arctic grove]

I can barely remember what a noun is and now I find out words are interchangeable

[sullen badge]

go figure

[vocal tusk]

Battlefield "Veterans" will be the reason something like this never happens

[slim quiver]

its punishing by making guns play to their actual strengths irl, instead of artificially balancing guns so that the only good weapon turns out to be is the AR

[next onyx]

Hearing that the spread is less aggressive than 4's gives me hope

Plus suppression not being a thing

[slim quiver]

wait the game has RBD?

[buoyant smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZJv5IGZoFY

[sullen badge]

Way there will be plenty of spread with your aiming

lol

[next onyx]

It has spread. I told you before.

[arctic grove]

balls

[vocal tusk]

I think BF3 did a pretty good job of separating weapons classes, and even weapons within those classes into defined groups

[next onyx]

Its not the worse thing.

It definitely felt playable.

[slim quiver]

wait didnt all guns have spread? in bfv

is the game recoil based or RBD

[next onyx]

They did in 5 but it was very minor

[vestal lichen]

Is there an option to shoot yourself in the retail build of 2042 due to how hopeless the world has become in that year

[arctic grove]

What's the best way to cook an egg

[next onyx]

It mostly affected your recoil. Using custom stock and the other accuracy increasing perk increased your recoil consistency.

[arctic grove]

on a MacBook

[green breach]

Put the egg on me cause I'm hot stuff

[slim quiver]

okay so its still basically like BFV gunplay in a way

[next onyx]

Id rather recoil consistency all the way

Lol

[slim quiver]

or is it not

if its anything like BF4 gunplay im 100% skipping this title lol

[next onyx]

No. It seems that spread doesn't affect the guns recoil

[cyan spire]

i fudging hated the recoil in bf4

[next onyx]

The spread increase from what I've been told isn't as aggressive as 4's.

[slim quiver]

welp i guess we will see

[cyan spire]

the game itself is good but the guns in terms of full auto is impossile to control on xbox

[next onyx]

Lmgs had crappy moving accuracy which hurt them.

[cyan spire]

2042 seemed fine tho

[vestal lichen]

(you should probably get treatment from a doctor, your body is killing itself)

[slim quiver]

if it feels like BF4 I wont last more than a few weeks in the game until I just wait for the next one

[green breach]

@cyan spire but but specialists

[sullen badge]

I put alot of hours in 4 and 2042 didn't have recoil that felt anywhere near that bad

[slim quiver]

I dont see how they could fuck up gunplay in a game that they just made that had the best gunplay in the entire bf series

[next onyx]

Honestly. Submachine guns with spread is kinda moot

[sullen badge]

SMG is always gonna spread

[next onyx]

Its just an ar or lmg that's supposed to excell is more egregious

[hidden sand]

It's DICE, you never know with them

[cloud zodiac]

there was spread in 2042?

[next onyx]

Yeah just not as aggro

[cloud zodiac]

i never noticed lol

[slim quiver]

I at least have semi good expectations

[green breach]

Better be usable bipods in the game

[sullen badge]

I definitely noticed when holding down the trigger on an LMG

[next onyx]

Seeing people like enders firing the mg at full auto with no spread kinda annoyed me,

[cyan spire]

talking about gunplay and recoil lololol

[cloud zodiac]

i mean their gunplay rn feels perfect to me

like bfv but better

[slim quiver]

the only thing I dont have faith in dice over is battlepass stuff tbh. as we grow closer and closer i feel like the BP will be horribly dry

[next onyx]

If they lower moving accuracy penalties then I can work with thatl

[sullen badge]

I have no doubt that they will further tune things like recoil post launch

[hidden sand]

Glad you can be hopeful then, I'm just hopeful for Portal at this point lol

[slim quiver]

portal wont keep me interested tbh

[sullen badge]

based

[slim quiver]

If i have to play a mode that lets me play the previous battlefields over the new battlefield, it makes no sense to me tbh

[green breach]

Cancel preorder then?

[slim quiver]

Nah theres no reason to do that

[vocal tusk]

Its hardly a previous battlefield...its 3 past games remade in the new game

[hidden sand]

Wdym? It's still 2042s gameplay mechanics, but with the content of those past games

[next onyx]

Personally I'm gonna take the bullet and learn the gunplay and tell others how to minimise the annoyances of it.

[green breach]

Bf3 with wall climbing.

[slim quiver]

its very hard for me to hate a BF game, it would have to fail in basically every area of the game to make me stop playing

[scarlet cloak]

Bf3 without supression

Yes please

[next onyx]

At least you have a vector, zy

Your previous vector

[slim quiver]

vector felt like shit

[sullen badge]

Yuso they'll add supression, just for you

[scarlet cloak]

Please no

[slim quiver]

the type 2a is way better than the vector

in every single way

[next onyx]

To be honest it felt amazing

[slim quiver]

i hated it

[sullen badge]

Im with Z on this one, i didn't enjoy how it felt

[vocal tusk]

BF3 rush on Arica Harbor 💯

[next onyx]

Weird, what did you dislike about it?

[frosty patio]

SMG 08/18

[slim quiver]

0 ability to hip fire it at 15-20 meters like the 2a, terrible ammo capacity, the damage drop off was bad

[vocal tusk]

BC2 rush on Caspian border

[next onyx]

Though to be honest yeah it felt useless beyond 7 8 metres

[hidden sand]

Type 2A can go eat itself

When I'm not using it too, that is

[slim quiver]

the type 2A in BFV i barely look down the sights

[sullen badge]

Pretty much this and even close range it didn't feel punchy at all

[slim quiver]

I kill every single person hip firing it

and im moving while im doing it

2042 is ADS simulator where it does not encourage hip firing

which is bad in general

[next onyx]

Lol

[vocal tusk]

Vectors shredded everything in CQC though, seems like youre going back on a statement from a few minutes ago with this take TBH

[hidden sand]

Completely different experience on console, Vector could hip fire from a good distance while moving

[slim quiver]

theres a lot of problems with the gunplay imo, the gunplay is the only part of the game that makes me feel like it has some elements of call of duty no joke

call of duty is a ADS simulator

you ADS at every range

[next onyx]

Hipfiring the m5a3 felt weird

It felt too accurate

[jagged stream]

i hipfired alot in the beta tho

[next onyx]

But im saying this as im used to lmg spread

[sullen badge]

Let's be honest though, i'm not opposed to COD gunplay

[next onyx]

Me neither

[slim quiver]

i didnt hipfire with the m5 but it was more accurate than the vector hip firing and it was annoying to see

[scarlet cloak]

Same

[slim quiver]

im a little opposed to cod gunplay

because if we are going to have cod gunplay

then i want every weapon to behave like cod guns

which means snipers

[vocal tusk]

Inside 10m, the vector beat everything even with hipfire.

[green breach]

And while we are at it sound like them too.

[sullen badge]

And i've hip spread plenty of times in cod to know it's not an ADS simulator

[next onyx]

I dont mind the recoil. But I wouldn't cry a soul if they increased it with less spread.

[slim quiver]

battlefield snipers are starting to show their age

[next onyx]

The PBX was slept on which was weird

Cause that thing was actually lethal

[dim remnant]

Give me cloud streaming VR battlefield pls

[slim quiver]

theres a ton of shooters that have way way better interpretations of bolt action sniper rifles and how they balance off against semi auto snipers

except battlefield

[next onyx]

....by the way, I think therell be a yellow skin

In the mastery road

For the guns

[slim quiver]

gold?

[next onyx]

Gold but maybe a yellow as well

Like a flat yellow

[dim remnant]

Pink

[hidden sand]

How do they do it better? Not disagreeing, just dunno

[slim quiver]

the only saving grace for 2042 for me will be if the skins and stuff are fun, if its dry and boring then I don't think Ill even make it to max level

[slim quiver]

bolt action snipers have high bullet velocity and kill you in 1 shot center mass

[vocal tusk]

You seem to be on an incredible downer for this game the past few days lol

[next onyx]

Thinking back in the map reveal. When sundance domed dozer with the magnum, he was wearing a black and yellow outfit but at the same time. It would make no sense to put gold on an outfit.

[slim quiver]

past few weeks

[next onyx]

Everyone's concerned bsod

[dim remnant]

Lgbtq+ flag stickers for guns, it's a guarantee

[slim quiver]

since i played beta actually

[slim quiver]

inappropriate

[next onyx]

Same here. I'm hyped but at the same time I'm concerned.

[vocal tusk]

Concerned for what? that one smg in a beta had bad hipfire?

[dim remnant]

Call of duty has pride stickers

[slim quiver]

Multiple reasons why im concerned lol

that was just 1 example

[sullen badge]

Didn't they do another pass on bullet velocities for the guns?

[next onyx]

They did?

[dim remnant]

I want a rainbow camo

[sullen badge]

They did

Post-beta

[next onyx]

Since when?

Oh

[vocal tusk]

And none of the weapons had even 10% of their available attachments

[next onyx]

Yeah we know that one

Im mostly concerned about balance.

[sullen badge]

You're worried there will be a meta?

[next onyx]

Nah

[hidden sand]

It greatly concerns me that this Beta wasn't remotely close to Battlefield 1s Alpha in terms of polish and visuals

[next onyx]

I like metas

[dim remnant]

I want thermal sniper scope for my 12 gauge

[next onyx]

But my issue is an unhealthy one.

[sullen badge]

I like metas but only when the meta has 4-5 guns

not just 1

[next onyx]

Mackays nimble perk I am concerned about.

[vocal tusk]

I hope they go back to how we had BF3...with SMGs being most effective inside 10-15m

[dim remnant]

Thermal sniper scope on my rainbow tint AA-12 please

[slim quiver]

Snipers, gun balance, bullet velocity, animations, revive times, revive animations, skins, map sizes, hit registration, vehicle call ins on rooftops, slide distance and speed, spread etc

[next onyx]

He's the only one who has faster ads on the move. Something that should be a gun perk.

[hidden sand]

Amen 🙏

[next onyx]

They can patch him to be better.

[slim quiver]

i have a list of concerns, only 1 of them is the vector lol

[next onyx]

Ji soo as well is... a mess. But we'll wait on that.

[sullen badge]

Vehicle call ins on rooftops should be banned

[slim quiver]

Im also concerned that they nerf paik before the game even launches and she becomes virtually useless

[dim remnant]

I would like the development of the game finishes for launch. Not 2 years after launch like bfv

[next onyx]

Vehicle cool ins is fun

[vocal tusk]

Lets wait for full game i guess, before drowning in a sea of sorrow lol

[next onyx]

I got an aa tank on b and gunned down half a dozen helicopters

[dim remnant]

Sick brotaco

[slim quiver]

her ult is strong af, but her passive is just kinda useless, it highlights the person damaging you but if someone sees you first and starts hitting you, you're probably dead before being able to duel them

[sullen badge]

Yes but how realistic are vehicle call ins on a rooof

[dim remnant]

That's awesome

[next onyx]

Shot a guy out of his jet due to scuffed hit reg

[dim remnant]

Oh yeah

[next onyx]

It doesnt on the realism, that is just fun.

[scarlet cloak]

I c4 tanks onto roofs in bf4

[sullen badge]

I vaguely remember seeing an improvement to hit reg somewhere too

[slim quiver]

id rather be negative now and be proven wrong, than get my hopes up and be disappointed

[dim remnant]

Sheeeeeeesh

[next onyx]

The ai doesn't stop firing the aa tank

[hidden sand]

I just can't figure out how a game with less devs and less time managed to have a better looking, more functional, polished Alpha, and Beta even more so.

[dim remnant]

Punping that DICE crypto

[next onyx]

Its kinda funny

[sullen badge]

All of these can be fixed post launch

[next onyx]

Ye

[vocal tusk]

Id rather wait....balance has changed a lot from past beta to release, there is no reason to expect it wont here. (Especially with how much was posted on forums)

[sullen badge]

if they're shit

[dim remnant]

Balance is key

[slim quiver]

I just felt like the beta was kind of very very concerning and lack luster, even if it was an old build

[dim remnant]

Much lackluster

[slim quiver]

even the running animation felt super unreal stiff and robotic compared to BFV beta's running animation

[green breach]

Been better off if game was delayed to march

[next onyx]

I was more frustrated by things that didn't work.

[dim remnant]

Delays are bad

[slim quiver]

I never care about bugs or anything, i care about the content

[dim remnant]

Delays are for losers

[sullen badge]

Perhaps it felt lackluster because you're comparing an uncompleted game with an enormous amount of hype to a fleshed out game?

[slim quiver]

all games will have bugs

its whatever with that

[urban olive]

Dumbest poster on the bf2042 reddit so far
BrotherGrimm1: Don't care. Your game is trash. (makes dumb meme about genders)
I_W_H_B_Y_D: You cared so little you felt compelled to make a shitty meme about it and post it on Reddit.
NickNembus: You're right, they should have titled it "I could care less", which implies they cared about it a little bit. Enough to make this garbage 🤦
BrotherGrimm1: You mean "he". They would imply there are two of me, which there isn't. (he soon deleted this comment before I could reply) 🤣

[dim remnant]

Finish the game then announce it exists

[next onyx]

Im holding my hope for launch. So as it goes. I'm holding my reservations.

[scarlet cloak]

Give game pls

[sullen badge]

I'll have fun either way

[scarlet cloak]

[next onyx]

Reddit is a mess.

[dim remnant]

I'll buy it 2 years from now when it's finished

[slim quiver]

im mostly just concerned with the post content tho, because in terms of unlocks and customizations, if i like customization enough I will continue to play the game through the bad times, but if the customization is dry and garbage then I will just sink my time into a different battlepass

[sullen badge]

i'm sure it'll be fine z

[next onyx]

We'll have two battlepasses so hopefully we can grind them out accordingly.

[dim remnant]

I'll pick up the game when it's finished and costs 5$

[slim quiver]

as long as they dont listen to reddit

[vocal tusk]

At least we actually have a gun loadout grind in this game...BF1 and V were so terrible in this aspect

[sullen badge]

OK thanks, you can stop repeating the same comment now

[dim remnant]

Battlefield is dead

No

[hidden sand]

You're not responding to me, but personally I'm pretty tired of having to wait for months and maybe even a year for a game to be fixed and polished. 4 Triple A studios, 3 years, and the animations, visuals, gameplay mechanics (missing movement features) are somehow worse than 1 and V. Too many regressions, for my taste.

[next onyx]

Don't worry, just wait really. And hey, tell me when you've made your server on portal so I can and say hi.

[scarlet cloak]

I hated unlocking guns in bf1 so much

[slim quiver]

BF1 i liked less in terms of gun grinding than V

bfv was just me unlocking levels

[dim remnant]

I'll pick it up when it's cheaper

[slim quiver]

BF1 was me having to shoot a plane down with an LMG

[next onyx]

Bf5 was pretty dry

[dim remnant]

Maybe I'll pick it up later

I'm torn

[next onyx]

Though stupid stuff like that in bf1... yeah no

Id rather damage planes not destroy them!

[sullen badge]

That's all games these days tho. and the price of games is going up

[dim remnant]

Maybe once it's finished I'll buy it

[sullen badge]

Can you stop @dim remnant

[dim remnant]

If it's ever finished

[scarlet cloak]

I mostly remember wanting to unlock one specific gun in bf1

[sullen badge]

you made your point

[dim remnant]

Stop harassing me

[scarlet cloak]

Only to realise I need to use another gun I haven't unlocked, to unlock the gun I want

[vocal tusk]

Thank christ we are back to...

Progression unlocks guns > kills with weapons unlocks attachments

[next onyx]

No need to constantly repeat yourself patriot

[dim remnant]

I would like to buy the game

I'm not talking to any of you

[sullen badge]

based

[next onyx]

I dont mind weapon levels.

I really didn't.

[hidden sand]

That doesn't make it any better. Games should launch complete. BF1 did with less time and devs, so can this one. I'm not expecting it, but I'm going to be frustrated if it launches poorly, personally.

[dim remnant]

I'm in an argument you can't see apparently

[next onyx]

Cause you could boost it exponentially by sitting in an objective.

[dim remnant]

Sucks to suck

[next onyx]

But it was grindy

[dim remnant]

Yeah maybe ill give it a shot but idk man

[sullen badge]

Unfortunately that's just not the case these days

It's about $, not the game

[dim remnant]

They can't see you I guess dude idk

[vocal tusk]

BF 2042 launches with an insane amount of content...probably 3-4 times more vehicles and weapons than any other game

[dim remnant]

You gonna be on later?

For sure bro peace

[scarlet cloak]

I'm gonna try and use vehicles more in 2042

[sullen badge]

I'm addicted to little bird

[scarlet cloak]

Considering I can just call one in and not sit in the deploy screen and hope

[scarlet cloak]

Littlebird best vehicle

[viral garden]

thats what EA/Activision have as a quote on the walls in their offices, i think lol

[hidden sand]

I've been looking at BF1 trailers this past hour, it just blows me away at how better visually that game looks. First time the trailers actually represented the actual experience you're going to get.

[tame cobalt]

I wanna call in air vehicles tho

[scarlet cloak]

Call in a jet onto a building and hope you can take off

[viral garden]

that first bf1 trailer 👍

[hidden sand]

https://youtu.be/ymwXbF1VTKU

[sullen badge]

Anyone who talks about BF1 is biased though, since you're comparing a completed game post-launch to an unreleased game

[slim quiver]

yeah this set up i like

[viral garden]

and then, that first bfv trailer 💩 😫

[deft fossil]

Im not gonna be touching vechicles that much

[slim quiver]

i never use vehicles so same

i will never play all the maps in 2042 tbh, irreversible or whatever is too big

[vocal tusk]

the on ontop of that, you have weapon masteries for all weapons...so even once you have all attachments, you have more to grind

[scarlet cloak]

Breakaway looks pretty fun

[slim quiver]

this is true

[deft fossil]

Ill mostly be playing rush or the closest thing to it

[vocal tusk]

Different skins for different mastery levels...so damn cool

[scarlet cloak]

Rush is in 2042 so your good

[slim quiver]

either way the game is also releasing at the worst time

the elden ring network test starts the same day

[hidden sand]

No I'm not. I specifically said trailers, like the gamescom one I just sent.

BF1 had working melees, amazing, fluid, animations, minimal bugs, in it's Alpha. Even more so in its beta. It's a completely fair comparison.

[deft fossil]

Ez im never touching conquest

[scarlet cloak]

I forgot I signed up for that zzzy lmao

[slim quiver]

same

[sullen badge]

What i didn't enjoy in the beta was their definition of "zones" where it takes multiple people to capture so you have conflict throughout the map

[slim quiver]

im so excited

[scarlet cloak]

Whether I got in or not is a different story

[slim quiver]

im such a fangirl for fromsoft games

[sullen badge]

Because i managed to cap plenty of point solo

[sullen badge]

same

[vocal tusk]

minimal bugs, in it's Alpha

😂

[viral garden]

even bf1 game mechanics overall worked or made sense, cant tell that about bf2042 mechanics lol

[slim quiver]

I even have their games before they were known as fromsoft haha

[vale pier]

I get the feeling the servers will be fucked on Battlefield AND elden ring. So many players trying to get online

[slim quiver]

Kuon is like my favorite game by them

[tame cobalt]

setting up the plus system for every gun is the only part of it I'm not really looking forward to... but it's whatever

[vocal tusk]

I think we played different alphas and betas my dude

[scarlet cloak]

Wait whats the date for the network test for elden ring again?

[deft fossil]

Im def buying elden ring

[sullen badge]

Too bad elden ring launches when im most busiest at work

[next onyx]

Actually ratchet you won't have to

[slim quiver]

November 12th-16th i think

[hidden sand]

I dunno what to tell you, BF1s Alpha was really stable lol.

[urban olive]

So does having the paid battlepass just unlock the new specialists instantly without grinding vs the free?

[scarlet cloak]

Man why is november stacked with stuff

[tame cobalt]

❓

[next onyx]

The first slot in your guns will determine what it'll spawn with

[vocal tusk]

Stale yes...but it had a fuck tonne of bugs

[next onyx]

In the plus system

[slim quiver]

no

[tame cobalt]

wait wut?

[scarlet cloak]

Whatever your first slot is on your plus system you'll spawn in with

[hidden sand]

And they were ironed out from then to it's Beta. Beta was extremely stable with minimal bugs. There can be a lot of bugs, but not be frequent. That's what I mean. @vocal tusk

[tame cobalt]

So the other 2 slots are automatically chosen..?

[scarlet cloak]

Nah, first slot on each side of the plus system

[next onyx]

If I have a drum mag, grenade launcher, hybrid and long barrel assigned to the first squares. It'll spawn me with those.

On my gun.

[vocal tusk]

Plus system works off a favoriting system, you add all the attachments yourself

[tame cobalt]

oh i yeah i get that. but setting up which 12 attachments you want in your plus system for each gun... that's what I'm not looking forward to

[next onyx]

They just need to spawn you with more ammo really. It doesn't matter that you can have more ammo through changing the mags. It's good to keep consistent.

[vocal tusk]

Its shown in action here
https://youtu.be/AUB5rv10O_g

[next onyx]

High impact rounds kill handling, for the sake of consistency just gimme 31+217 rounds with my ak.

Basic rounds

[vocal tusk]

the option to only take one ammo type...but get more of it 👌

[next onyx]

I use drum mags im gonna screw my handling up

Just a basic 30+1 round mag with tonnes of reserve (if I can forgo other mag options cool)

[sullen badge]

Way make sure you never have kids

[next onyx]

Baha why

Ill train them to hunt you online

That sounded stalkish

[sullen badge]

I've had my 3 year old nephew stay with us for like months now and I'm waaay past the novelty phase

[vocal tusk]

Make it balanced, so that if a player wants their ammo to be effective at different ranges, they have to sacrifice something...otherwise you'll just end up with everyone running the "meta" ammo

[arctic grove]

Ai?

[next onyx]

People are gonna run meta ammo regardless.

[deft fossil]

In the trailer there was a guy with a drum mag on his ak and his ads speed was pretty normal

[next onyx]

Yeah we'll see how that's.... handled in the future.

[hidden sand]

AP rounds can go imo

[arctic grove]

Bots?

[hidden sand]

At least, for damaging tanks

[next onyx]

I already know what the m5 meta is gonna be.

[vocal tusk]

AP rounds are more useful for helis

[deft fossil]

If the ads speed is like in the trailer im running drum mag the whole time

[tame cobalt]

what?

[next onyx]

Honestly

[hidden sand]

M5 is getting nerfed I'm calling it now, it's the stg of this game

[next onyx]

If there aren't any differences I may as well run drum mag

The 44 or the 1-5

[urban olive]

Just looked it up, pretty sure I'm right. The 1 year pass will include 4 New Specialists (1 per season). This is unlocked instantly vs the free version which I wonder if you must grind or just wait till the seasons over to unlock it.

[next onyx]

Because the 44 was hyped up to be more powerful than it actually was.

The ls26 is better than it. And that's saying something.

[slim quiver]

again the specialists tho are in the free tier

not the paid one

yes if you pre order the game you automatically get the 4 specialists when they become available

[next onyx]

I think they were just pointing out that one would come out per season

[urban olive]

It's a selling point of it XD

[slim quiver]

but you dont need to pay for a battlepass to get them

[next onyx]

Huh?

[hazy vector]

If you unlock them instantly by buying the battlepass, i bet heaps of players will just wait a year or two and buy the GOTY edition witn everything the didn't want to grind on unlocked

[slim quiver]

nah but i think he was asking if you buy the battlepass are they unlocked

[urban olive]

The way I understand it is every season there will be 1 new one. The battlepass gets that instantly at release

[slim quiver]

if you pre order the game for gold you unlock the first 4

but buying a battlepass does not automatically give you a specialist

[hazy vector]

people want to know if you need to grind to unlock specialists, some of the marketing material reads like you do

[next onyx]

Huh....

[hidden sand]

They've said buying the pass won't auto unlock it for you? It is a selling point for them, so it sounds like it will

[hazy vector]

specialists seem to be unlocked based on progression

[arctic grove]

Ai bots in battlefield 2042

[urban olive]

I would rather grind unlock it anyways, just wondering if it's worth getting the paid to avoid waiting till end of seasons. If it's available day 1 of then, not a huge deal

[sullen badge]

It's probably like cod where it's progression based and if you don't buy a bpass you don't get a chance at the operators

[next onyx]

I think they were just saying that there'll be operators coming with the seasons and season pass users could get them faster cause tides of war xp boost?

[tame cobalt]

yes, you can play with AI bots

[next onyx]

They'll be for free

Season pass only gets your the paid battlepass which will just be cosmetics

[urban olive]

Never said they won't be free, when free is what I asked

[hidden sand]

They'll be free but it does sound like it'll auto unlock based on the description of that year 1 pass

[vocal tusk]

I mean...all 10 specialists wont be unlocked at the start of the game AFAIK. you start with the 4 from beta and the rest unlock as you progress.

[hazy vector]

"For the first 4-6 hours in the full game, expect to be working with a reduced array of gadgets for your open gadget slot, with your journey through the ranks slowly introducing new ones for your loadouts. That traditional experience of a Battlefield game, where classes fulfill traditional roles is an experience that you graduate out of through the first ten levels. Your Specialists will have the options to choose from a Medical Crate, Ammo Crate, the Recoilless M5 Launcher, and our Repair tool as starting gadgets, and enable the experience of playing in ways that allow players to feel the benefit of playing in more supportive roles. "
and one paragraph lower
"As you progress beyond those levels, you’ll gain access to more specialised hardware, and Specialists, that help to solve scenarios you can encounter, and we expect you to be regularly interacting with your loadouts on the deploy screen to react to the ever changing nature of Conquest and Breakthrough gameplay."

[scarlet cloak]

Rushing to unlock sundance

[hidden sand]

Yeah that's already understood, what's being discussed is how the year 1 pass sounds like it auto unlocks the 4 new operators for you

As they come out

[urban olive]

hope it lets you pick the one you want and is not some type of order lol

[lucid goblet]

👀

[vocal tusk]

I doubt it will, you will probably have to unlock them...though since we lack the info...we will have to wait and see. Noone can say for sure

[tame cobalt]

they will definitely be unlocked n a predefined order

[urban olive]

Dozer better be #1

[hidden sand]

I don't think they would be stupid enough to auto unlock them but yeah we don't know, hopefully not

[hazy vector]

oh no wait, this is the bit i was looking for in the blog post:
"At launch you’ll be ready to jump onto the Battlefield and start earning XP, up to the max Player Level of 99. During your journey of leveling and progression, you will unlock Specialists, weapons, vehicles and gadgets and a variety of cosmetics. "

[arctic grove]

So I can do ai only games and no players?

[hazy vector]

so you need to level up to unlock specialists

[scarlet cloak]

Yes you can

[next isle]

[vocal tusk]

Im really looking forward to playing BC2, but with side to side runs/sprint strafing

[hidden sand]

Lol yeah for real

[arctic grove]

Psychonauts 2 goty

[scarlet cloak]

Being able to play bf3 without supression screwing me over

Yes PLEASEEE

[wide shore]

That is true

I didn’t even think about that

[hidden sand]

It's gonna be interesting to see the XM8 without it being as chonky as it was in BC2

[wide shore]

How awesome would a server be that just has every single gun. From every game. Just a hodgepodge of WWII, and modern

I know that’s possible. Btw

[scarlet cloak]

Most servers will probably do that tbf

[wide shore]

Yeah, I’m sure they will

That’s gonna be sooo many weapons

[vocal tusk]

Yeah...basically any era you want...all weapons...all maps

[hazy vector]

and then poeple will still pick the 5 or so meta guns

[wide shore]

I wonder if HZ will have any of the portal weapons

I know it probably won’t at launch. But in the future?

[hidden sand]

It's funny it took them this long to realize how good of an idea this would be but I'm glad they're doing it regardless

[wide shore]

Better late than never

[hidden sand]

Multiple Eras in a BF game is just 10/10

[scarlet cloak]

Mhm

[hazy vector]

Portal is a sand box, i doubt anything goes out from it. only into it

[wide shore]

I can’t wait to see how Portal expands

[hazy vector]

probably Gmod style with all kinds of wacky shit

[wide shore]

I’d love Panama Canal. Love that map

Also, BF Vietnam content PLS

[tame cobalt]

yes they said you can

[hidden sand]

DICE L.A. was very keen on putting out the fact it will be based on what the community wants, not what they themselves think would be good.

Gives me a lot of hope for it.

[vocal tusk]

2142 content it is so!

[tame cobalt]

Aka the first maps we'll get are locker, metro, and shanghai

[wide shore]

RE have proven to be very awesome with the community. I may hate 4, but I can’t deny all the cool stuff they did post launch.

[cloud zodiac]

128 player metro is gonna be so fucked lol

[hidden sand]

They even said, "Want more vehicle options? We can do that" like it was nothing lol, if only DICE Sweden could be this keen on community feedback

[tame cobalt]

[wide shore]

Sounds like hell. I love it.

[scarlet cloak]

128 metro but expand the map to let us go in the first area where rush starts

[cloud zodiac]

128 shanghai tho

[hazy vector]

fuckin titans with more than three polygons and that don't make your FPS drop

[wide shore]

Das what I’m sayin. Put two conquest points in the park

[hidden sand]

I doubt it if I'm honest
I think those maps were juat kneejerk reactions about Portal, or well, I really hope so lol

[cloud zodiac]

if they are gonna readd bf4 maps i hope they make the levolutions timed/hard to activate at least

mfs be destroying the shanghai towers 2 mins in

[wide shore]

I mean, we got Noshahr. That’s the real meat grinder.

[tame cobalt]

Combine metro and shanghai into one 128 player map

[scarlet cloak]

If there's any bf4 map I would like back that seems reasonable for 128 players... Zavod maybe

[hidden sand]

Zavod

[wide shore]

Zavod and Shanghai are the only maps I’m interested in from 4

Specifically Graveyard Shift

[scarlet cloak]

Zavods a great map

[cloud zodiac]

i hope the missile truck wont make a comeback

[scarlet cloak]

But you're always fighting for D and C flag

I've barely ever fought outside of C and D

[wide shore]

Every map has heat zones

[hidden sand]

I want 2142 content so badly lol

[tame cobalt]

If kaleidoscope is good, we don't need shanghai

[wide shore]

“Introducing, Titan mode, coming to portal”

[hidden sand]

Titan mode coming back would be the best possible thing imo

[cloud zodiac]

titans gonna be so sick

[hazy vector]

you would also need the pod launchers to make it correct

[cloud zodiac]

modern maps and titans man 😩

[hidden sand]

2142 and BF1, from what I've seen at least, have been the most discussed in regards to Portal

[hazy vector]

and then use those pod launchers outside of 2142 maps

[wide shore]

They had the pod launchers in 4

[hazy vector]

no i mean the truck one

[hidden sand]

The sound pod launchers make is 10/10 best damn sound I love it

[wide shore]

Noob ❤️

[arctic grove]

Where?

[wide shore]

I’m glad they reused the V1 sound for the Ospreys

That sound is pure eargasm

[hazy vector]

you can do solo maps with AI only, but there's some discussion and debatingh on if you're able to level up with purely AI

[wide shore]

I got a few WWII flashbacks the first few times hearing it in the beta though.

[smoky hatch]

I hope bf4 won’t be deserted when bf2042 comes out

[tame cobalt]

https://www.ign.com/articles/battlefield-2042-ai-bots-co-op-solo-play

[sweet cairn]

It probably won't be

[hidden sand]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/qj1blr/since_there_is_a_feeling_that_we_know_nothing/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

This tells you everything you need to know

[hazy vector]

it will probably taper off as the maps people want get added to portal

[scarlet cloak]

It won't be, but servers will probably be a lot quieter

[sullen badge]

@lucid goblet i'm watching you carpo

[hidden sand]

Every time I heard it I'd start running and look around for the rocket out of habit lol

[lucid goblet]

👀

[wide shore]

“Which way is it coming from? Is it friendly?”

[hazy vector]

i just hope that "Share configs through URLs and Codes" doesn't meap portal needs a battlelog type interface again

[cloud zodiac]

doubt it

they will have a web editor though iirc

[hidden sand]

No that's purely for the logic editor, the actual functionality of portal is based in-game

[hazy vector]

also, unlike what people hope: "It's not a level editor" can't move shit arround gmod style

[cloud zodiac]

its pretty obvious a level editor isn't a thing lol

[hidden sand]

It'd be great if the US V1 was just a flying Sherman, yknow what I mean?

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Release (Gold/Ultimate)
Releases <t:1636700400:R> (<t:1636700400:F>)

[cloud zodiac]

12 DAYS

[arctic grove]

No

[proud glen]

:OOOOOO

[scarlet cloak]

We're close toki

[hazy vector]

"Server stays up as long as there are players on it. ('Follow' creators to keep track of the status of servers that you like)" is gonna suck a bit tho

[proud glen]

19 days

[scarlet cloak]

[arctic grove]

11days 19 hours idiot

[wide shore]

Flying Calliope. Could you imagine the power?

[cloud zodiac]

put me into a coma

[scarlet cloak]

Aight

[cloud zodiac]

im bouta stay up for 3 days when the game is out

[arctic grove]

Why the servers are gonna die on day 1

[proud glen]

Where Is The Moderator The Way Rock Johnson At?

[sullen badge]

How are you purple but not a booster or regular

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-spongebob-i-dont-need-it-sweat-i-dont-need-no-sleep-gif-17899403

[cloud zodiac]

cus im a gamer

[arctic grove]

Classism neo

[sullen badge]

He cheated the system

[wide shore]

This is how I feel rn. It’s almost 8 AM

[arctic grove]

NeoCranium and the cronchy bois

[sullen badge]

He's a filthy tax dodger

[arctic grove]

Can't dodge tax if you don't pay tax

[scarlet cloak]

A wild neenoicranium

[sullen badge]

What is going on here

[cloud zodiac]

how many maps will be available at early access again

[arctic grove]

I don't know

[cloud zodiac]

i forgor 💀

[sweet cairn]

I'm with you

[sullen badge]

i thought all of them?

[cloud zodiac]

bet add me

[arctic grove]

Every time I see your name I think of NeoCranium my current favourite YouTube channel

[sullen badge]

You're welcome

[cloud zodiac]

i read somewhere that not all maps will be available on early access

[neon pagoda]

how long till its out

[sweet cairn]

I'm down no sleep gang

[cloud zodiac]

or im trippin

[arctic grove]

One good edited video a month

[scarlet cloak]

Your trippin toki

[cloud zodiac]

nice thats good

[arctic grove]

11 days beluga

[sullen badge]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwhxZg8wtOjRvjS99TsPSsQ @arctic grove

?

[arctic grove]

Yup

[scarlet cloak]

That's him neo

Great youtuber

[neon pagoda]

will they make specialists fixed balance before then

[arctic grove]

Dunno

[neon pagoda]

wats point in medic

[arctic grove]

Makes good quality content

[neon pagoda]

useless garbage

[sullen badge]

What if i revealed

I am him

[arctic grove]

Your not

[scarlet cloak]

You're not from america so

Checkmate

[arctic grove]

Filthy Australian

[sullen badge]

Damn, you got me

[cloud zodiac]

this chat is most civil when its dead

[arctic grove]

Hit the quan

[tame cobalt]

Just saw you can adjust AI difficulty in portal, thank god

[scarlet cloak]

I'm lurking because I'm drifting

[sullen badge]

I want to play game before i go to bed but i cbf

also idk where my phone is

oh i found it dw

[arctic grove]

Stonk

[hidden sand]

Reminds me of modded BC2 servers were the end of round missile was switched out with a tank lmao

[hidden sand]

Hopefully this means BF2 level AI, and even harder

[wide shore]

Oh shit. Yeah, I have seen that. Lol

I haven’t played any BF games on PC

[arctic grove]

!when

[shy bronze]

[arctic grove]

Simply watch NeoCranium you get gameplay before bed and gay animations (don't ban me it's just what he makes mods)

[tame cobalt]

Ye. I just wanna be able to create a portal mode and not worry whether people may or may not join it. Decent bots should help a lot with that

[arctic grove]

I wonder if bots will participate in the zombie mode

[sullen badge]

cabbage

[arctic grove]

Tomato

[sullen badge]

Done

[tame cobalt]

Bell peppee

r

[arctic grove]

Y'all ever eat pepperoni and cheese bricks together

God's gift

[tame cobalt]

that's just pizza with less steps

[sullen badge]

i dont eat bricks

[hidden sand]

I'm primarily gonna be playing with bots. I honestly prefer BF that way lol.

decrease the map size, sherman tank splash dmg raised, 63 bots on the enemy side, profit

[arctic grove]

Party cheese?

[tranquil kettle]

why do i have 35ms and 20% packet loss, wtf dice i have a good connection btw (bfv)

[still vault]

wrong channel

[arctic grove]

I mean I play on 200ms and no packet loss no problemo

[tranquil kettle]

i know ... im not asking for help im complaing bcs dice servers suck

[still vault]

Still the wrong channel

[arctic grove]

It's general 2

[hidden sand]

I'm really hoping the maximum amount of tanks for last gen is 32, or at least 24

[arctic grove]

Maybe in portal

[tame cobalt]

That's a lot

[hidden sand]

I meant in Portal

[arctic grove]

They increased the official count by a bit didn't they

[tame cobalt]

for orbital yes

[arctic grove]

I assume we would be able to have 128 tanks in Portal

[tame cobalt]

4 total to 8 total

[arctic grove]

Eod bot vs robo dog 🙈

[hidden sand]

Maximum for current gen is 40

[arctic grove]

Yes because 1 enemy tank wasn't annoying enough

[tame cobalt]

gonna be an interesting change. Maybe it should be 6 total

[tame cobalt]

ye, it may be too many now

[next onyx]

4v4 tanks sound fun

[wise zodiac]

Cheese bricks...?

Like, the whole slab?

[next onyx]

Didn't find tanks too much of a threat to be honest

[arctic grove]

Maybe Orbital was a small map

There been more than 8 tanks on 64 player maps it should be good

[next onyx]

They were still anchors but they weren't that scary

Well

[arctic grove]

No those small cubes at a party

[next onyx]

I did scream once one drove through the ladder

Wtf

I mean tunnel

[wise zodiac]

Oh, cheese cubes. Yeah. That's not a problem.

I thought you meant the full cheese brick.. also, not a problem.

[next onyx]

My brain goes sideways. Ignore that.
It was genuinely scary with one driving through the tunnel.

[wise zodiac]

Because cheese = life.

[tame cobalt]

especially the area where tanks are really drawn to on orbital is pretty small. 8 tanks on the runway is gonna be an experience

[sullen badge]

A man of culture

[arctic grove]

The cheese brick has only one natural predator... Humans at 3am

[ionic coyote]

howdy, will tanks have night vision or heat vision mode?

[hidden sand]

I'm praying there is more than two tanks at launch for the 2042 era

[arctic grove]

You guys eat the cheese brick with your hand or knife

[ionic coyote]

theres only 2 tanks?

on a giant map? i dont think so

[arctic grove]

Are dogtags completely gone in 2042?

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Release (Gold/Ultimate)
Releases <t:1636700400:R> (<t:1636700400:F>)

[tame cobalt]

probably won't have to wait very long for another tank type to be added

[hidden sand]

"2042 era"

[next onyx]

We're going to get an LAV we know that much

[tame cobalt]

If there's only 1 type at launch, I'd expect the second type to come in season 1

[ionic coyote]

in the beta i couldnt spawn back into the tank dont know if that was a bug or "feature " to stop same players from hogging the vehicles

[smoky hatch]

Is ryzen 5 3400g good

[arctic grove]

Theres the hovercraft on the snow maps aint there

Or stn like that

[smoky hatch]

Or will 5 5600x be better

[tame cobalt]

It's a feature, a very nice one imo, vehicle hogging is cringe

[ionic coyote]

guess i dnt have to play the game then

[tame cobalt]

👌

[ionic coyote]

i buy bf to play vehicles if not i stick to cod

[arctic grove]

Im so bad in vehicles 🙁

[wise zodiac]

Uh. With my mouth?

[arctic grove]

Infantry plurr😁

[vale pier]

It's like the a server admin saying no one else is allowed the heli. lol. fuck vehicle hoggers

[tame cobalt]

Well you'll be able to spawn back in a different type of vehicle, you just can't hog the same type

[sullen badge]

Wait is that a legit thing? preventing players from spawning into tanks?

[arctic grove]

U call them in

after u spawn

[ionic coyote]

apparently yet and some people think its a good thing lol

[wise zodiac]

You can call in your own vehicle, or you can wait in the spawn menu

I don't like vehicle hogs either, unless that player knows how to use them.

[arctic grove]

But u spawn a mile away from the closest objectives

[tame cobalt]

If you just died in an armored vehicle for example, there will be a cooldown on armored vehicles for you while other players can select armored vehicles. Same applies if you used a different vehicle type. Great feature

[sullen badge]

Oh i do remember seeing that cooldown

[wise zodiac]

If they know how to use them properly, they can stay in the vehicle all match for all I care.

[slim quiver]

Vehicles shouldn’t even be called in lol

[wise zodiac]

Debatable.

[slim quiver]

People call them in onto roof tops and just snipe with tanks

[dusky blade]

Very true

[tame cobalt]

call in system is pog

[arctic grove]

It does make the game abit interesting imo

[dusky blade]

You know what is pog? Finding vehicles around the land naturally

It’s super pog

[wise zodiac]

Let me tell you, seeing an air dropped tank in real life, that's fucking crazy.

[slim quiver]

I’ll tell you what’s pog

[sullen badge]

I don't agree that you should be able to call them in on rooftops

[tame cobalt]

not as pog as calling it in wherever you want

[slim quiver]

Going on to portal and joining an infantry only game

[wise zodiac]

I agree.

[arctic grove]

Eod bot vs robo dog>

[tame cobalt]

Inb4 roof call-in nerf

[wise zodiac]

cough I believe that is Call of Duty you're referring to.

[slim quiver]

Nah

Call of duty has a different style of infantry gameplay

The only thing better in terms of infantry gameplay that cod has is sniping

[serene trout]

battlefield superiority

[arctic grove]

Cod has literally turned every map into a mind numbing meat grinder lmao

[wide shore]

Body shot OHKs though

[slim quiver]

I like that tho

[slim quiver]

That’s why it’s better

[arctic grove]

I hate it imo

[vale pier]

Locker and metro be like

[wide shore]

I had enough of getting OHK sniped in BFV

[tame cobalt]

infantry-only 64p bf maps are definitely not cod

[slim quiver]

Uhhh BFV doesn’t have OHK unless it’s a headshot

[wise zodiac]

Idk, it feels like it to me.

[slim quiver]

It’s 2 shots to kill someone with a bolt action

[serene trout]

cods engine sucks

[tame cobalt]

Alright

[wide shore]

Boys AT and Panzerbuche go BOOM

[slim quiver]

Oh maybe the anti tank rifles

Those aren’t snipers tho

[arctic grove]

Ion mind it every once and a while but every map has just became such a cluster fuck in that beta

[slim quiver]

Like I’m talking the normal bolt action

[wide shore]

tell that to the players who use them

[slim quiver]

They use them because bolt actions don’t work as they should

[wise zodiac]

Which is jacked, imo.

[wide shore]

Or because they can’t aim

[slim quiver]

When a game makes bolt actions literally kill in the same amount of shots as a semi auto sniper, you can tell it’s not right

[arctic grove]

Anyone seen that automatic Panzerbuche glitch😭😭

[wise zodiac]

Bolt actions should be 1hk

[slim quiver]

Why do people think the ZH is spammed?

[wide shore]

Well, TBH I hate BFV’s semi auto snipers too. The ZH drives me up the wall

[wise zodiac]

Not a glitch, an exploit.

[slim quiver]

The ZH does the same amount of damage as a kar98

[next onyx]

Its an actual glitch

[slim quiver]

Kills on the same amount of shots

[next onyx]

Just people are exploiting it

[slim quiver]

The only difference? I don’t need to pull a bolt back

[wise zodiac]

But if you're using it to turn it semi-auto, it's an exploit lol

[next onyx]

Snipers have always sucked in battlefield

[wide shore]

Well then they should bring back the sweet spot mechanic.

[slim quiver]

True

[next onyx]

People are exploiting the glitch

[slim quiver]

Sniping is by far the worst part of battlefield

[quasi parcel]

How many days until the preload start?

[next onyx]

Uhh

10 /11

[wide shore]

I loved using the GOL in BC2

[next onyx]

It starts in the 11th

[wide shore]

That was some fun stuff

[arctic grove]

I cant deal with another martini-henry ever again though

[next onyx]

5:30 pm here

[wise zodiac]

I leave to Disney on the 13th. That's in 13 days. So 11 for preload most likely.

[quasi parcel]

In the portal mode bf3 doesnt have aek? 🥲

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Release (Gold/Ultimate)
Releases <t:1636700400:R> (<t:1636700400:F>)

[next onyx]

Basically an exact day before

[arctic grove]

Id love to play locker without the aek

[next onyx]

Hmm..

[slim quiver]

That was a fun gun

[next onyx]

I really enjoyed the Arisaka 38

[arctic grove]

Not fun to be against it lol

[shy bronze]

Hyperburst moment

[slim quiver]

Thing is people don’t want OHK bolt actions because they just want ARs and DMRS to run over everything again

[next onyx]

Getting instantly killed at a range in infuriating

[slim quiver]

It will be another BF where 90% of people use an AR because it can clap anything at almost any range

[arctic grove]

Ak-24 was so fucked in beta

[slim quiver]

It’s infuriating when it’s a hit scan range thing

[next onyx]

If a guy domes me with a sniper I know I've done something wrong, but if a guy with a boys rifle just sits and does nothing gets an easy kill then... :/

[slim quiver]

But a bullet that has to travel

[next onyx]

Ak24 was hilarious

[arctic grove]

3 shot kill at almost any range XD

[next onyx]

If there are instant kill snipers, then a lower velocity sure.

You sure? It felt like a 4hk

Hmm...

[arctic grove]

Maybe at far range

[slim quiver]

Thing is, when someone closes the gap with a sniper and btw in 2042 they now have multiple ways of doing that. Snipers are now weaker than ever

[next onyx]

Yeah further away it'd be a 5

[arctic grove]

Idk then all ik it was much stronger than the m5

[next onyx]

Snipers with a higher velocity and better damage curve would do very, very well.

Yeah it hit harder than the m5

Which was a welcome addition

[wise zodiac]

Sniper mechanics should be realistic. A bolt action should have a higher bullet velocity depending on the caliber.

A .308 should kill you in 1 hit at distance.

[arctic grove]

They need sniper zeroing back

[next onyx]

Cause the m5 felt like a peashooter

Its not that i couldn't kill

It just felt weak

Ak24 just... says fuck you and annihilates everyone.

[arctic grove]

Lmao

[slim quiver]

The m5 was absolutely broken

[safe oracle]

nice komi

[slim quiver]

Because it has 0 kick

[wise zodiac]

Being zipped by a .556? That should be 3-4, maybe 5 hits to drop.

[slim quiver]

The fun just lasers you

Gun*

[vocal tusk]

M5 with close quarters ammo was a beast at all ranges

[wise zodiac]

7.62? That's 2-3 hits.

[arctic grove]

They definitely need a way to make ARs weaker at cqb

[next onyx]

It may of lasered but it didn't feel as if it was overbearing

[tame cobalt]

Imo they should add the ability to ping the map for the people you're in a vehicle with

[wise zodiac]

It should go off of bullet ballistics.

[vocal tusk]

they have that, it was broken in the beta

[slim quiver]

The problem is it was the only gun I saw kill me in the beta

[vocal tusk]

Or do you mean open big map and drop a ping?

[slim quiver]

To me a battlefield game is when I see people using all kinds of gun

[next onyx]

Though to be fair it was a starting gun

[arctic grove]

Bf4 ^

[slim quiver]

When they use the same weapon that tells me the game has 0 balance

[vocal tusk]

Ill imagine with HZ, they would need a function like that

[tame cobalt]

cuz it's the default gun in a beta

[slim quiver]

There was about 5-6 starting guns

We had a starting SMG, LMG, AR, Sniper, shotgun

[arctic grove]

The magnum was good to use

[vocal tusk]

M5 was most common...cos even though the AK was good...its loadout reset when you died...which was annoying as fuck

[wise zodiac]

The LMG was fun.

[tame cobalt]

but m5a3 was the default gun

[next onyx]

They see assault rifle and see "oh this can do... everything" and work off that.

Same with the 1-5, people kept using that because it was the starting gun (and can last you a very long time)

[slim quiver]

Yup that’s why ARs get spammed

Because they excel in everything

[arctic grove]

I think the biggest problem is the multiple ammo types u can have on plus system

[next onyx]

But I dont see that as a problem because they're rounders they do their but they don't excel.

[wise zodiac]

The AR is the most versatile platform in the world, so it makes sense.

[arctic grove]

M5 had something for every range

[next onyx]

I use the fg42 all the time because it does what i need it to.

[arctic grove]

So it was a little stupid

[slim quiver]

And although people say “well it’s a Jack of all trades but a master of None” is bullshit when it comes to gun balance

[next onyx]

If I wanted more range, I'd use a semi. Or If I knew there were stubborn gunners I would use a sniper.

[slim quiver]

Because the sniper was worse than a Magnum pistol at doing it’s job

[wise zodiac]

ARs excel in short-medium range

[vocal tusk]

M5 will lose to the vector on a similarly skilled player inside 15m everytime

[slim quiver]

When people are skipping on using a bolt action rifle because a .44 magnum to snipe? Something isn’t right

[next onyx]

Yeah once they buff the sniper I can see the meta differently.

[oblique finch]

love how the bf4 theme just hits all the sweet spots

[next onyx]

Honestly the m5 didn't really fail me despite its low damage

[slim quiver]

Some of the smgs felt OKAY but they still didn’t compare to ARs even at 15m

[next onyx]

But I got outgunned by submachine guns for obvious reasons

[slim quiver]

The vector drop off is insanely high

You drop someone instantly at 5 meters

[next onyx]

The vector has way too much spread for a subbie

[slim quiver]

But anyone over it, and it’s like the damage says goodnight

Did people forget the vector fires a .45 caliber round

[wise zodiac]

The vector has a high rof, so that's a given.

[next onyx]

I recognise it as a subbie but it would be nice if there were some leniency.

[arctic grove]

The vector was meh

[next onyx]

PBX may very well be meta.
Besides I think high impact rounds increase range or something? I dunno.

[wise zodiac]

I carry a .45.

It's slow and heavy.

[slim quiver]

The vector should hit hard because you spend the entire mag of ammo in less than 2 seconds pretty much

[torpid shuttle]

Anybody try shotgun?

[slim quiver]

Exactly

[quasi parcel]

I hope they will fix the hitreg

[arctic grove]

Pbx damage dropoff seemed to start way to early

[slim quiver]

The damage on a .45 doesn’t just collapse at 15m

[shy bronze]

That’s a balance thing

[wise zodiac]

After a certain distance, the velocity ends.

[shy bronze]

The 9mm vector has virtually no spread because of the frame

[wise zodiac]

That's just because the round is heavy

[next onyx]

Oh yeah I recognise for balance

[quasi parcel]

The hazard zone/portal start later or with the launch?

[wise zodiac]

I much prefer a .40 over a 9mm or a .45

[arctic grove]

I just dont want the m5 to dominate every game 😭😭

[next onyx]

Would be nice if there were some consistency past 10m or something. It really depends.

It won't.

The m5 isn't as powerful as people think it was

[slim quiver]

Yeah but 15m ain’t it

[next onyx]

It did its job fine but the ak beat it

[slim quiver]

If you got shot in the chest at 15 m with a .45 you’d be lucky to live

[quasi parcel]

Interesting, in the new trailer and before there is always the DM7 or what is his name

[ionic coyote]

so will there be night vision or heat vision inside tanks?

[shy bronze]

30 magazine 9mm vector heavy? Lol what

[arctic grove]

I agree the ak was stronger but i found the m5 would best the pbx in cqb

[slim quiver]

Because it did

The problem with the ARs is most of the SMGs don’t even have a fire rate advantage

So you have a AR doing 8 more damage than a SMG per shot with like the same ROF

[wise zodiac]

It also depends on the grain weight.

[shy bronze]

@wise zodiac https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/496817307578925057/901819192997720114/image1.jpg

[arctic grove]

There needs to be penalties for the attachments you use like in bf4

[shy bronze]

That is heavy, 9mm is not.

[wise zodiac]

I missssssss that

Thank youuuuu

[quasi parcel]

U can use smg in less battle, there is less close quarter situaton

[wise zodiac]

Well, 15m is 50ft, so yeah.

[arctic grove]

Does anyone know if field upgrades are returning?

[slim quiver]

Yeah exactly

[slim quiver]

This

[wide shore]

They’re not

[shy bronze]

Good?

[slim quiver]

Ultimately this BF game to me just tells me that it will be AR 90% of the time again

[next onyx]

Rather there be no penalties for attachments

[shy bronze]

They aren’t meant to be a laser

With no drop like lmao

[slim quiver]

Which is sad because BFV I saw ARs, semis, shotguns, lmgs, smgs frequently

[wise zodiac]

Considering that the battlefields are medium-long range engagements, the AR/AK is king.

[shy bronze]

If dice wanted to balance smgs they would make high rpm weapons have an FTE mechanic

[wide shore]

There was a good mix of weapons being used in BFV

[dusky blade]

So is the fate of specialists

[shy bronze]

I’m sure that would go down well

[wide shore]

I never felt there was a real meta gun in V until the Type 2A. But even that has its limits.

[slim quiver]

Yeah it’s just that the maps themselves make it this way this time around

[wise zodiac]

But besides, you've only played 1 map.. you don't know the entire killbox of the rest of them.

[arctic grove]

I still don’t know about specialists

[next onyx]

Sorry. Fte?

[shy bronze]

Did you never see people abusing the no recoil fg42?

[quasi parcel]

BF more like long-medium range shooting game, not? Only in noshahr canals can I use smg. BFV different

[cloud zodiac]

guns probs gonna be more diverse on modes like breakthrough

[slim quiver]

Type 2A wasn’t even better than the M2 carbine that was full auto lol. That was just the type 2A with less recoil and more effective range

[wise zodiac]

I love the M2 Carbine.

Guns a beast.

[quasi parcel]

Exactly

[cyan spire]

Main guns I’m using are the kriss, the on dmr that was in the beta, and the m3A5

[wide shore]

Not really. I hardly ever get killed by the FG. Which is a shame cause it’s awesome.

[cyan spire]

I think that’s the spelling

[wise zodiac]

The modern battlefield isn't up close and personal. It's medium to long range engagements.

[shy bronze]

Not many people know about it

[arctic grove]

I played about 5 minutes of bfv never even learnt the good guns

[shy bronze]

It’s still a thing, tested it last week

[wide shore]

But I play on console. I think that 20 round mag mixed with the RPM turns some people off

[arctic grove]

Just liked to use the first lmg u got

[quasi parcel]

Yeah, but in the game the smgs isnt just cosmetics

[slim quiver]

Yeah I guess that’s why I hate modern shooters

Everything just becomes the same

[wise zodiac]

The KE7

[arctic grove]

Yes that

[wise zodiac]

KE7 is grosssssss

[arctic grove]

It was cool

[shy bronze]

Where’s my GAU19

[quasi parcel]

Iove it

[vocal tusk]

I wonder will portal allow for modes where you can equip 2 primaries

[shy bronze]

Why can’t I decrew vehicles in 1 spray

[slim quiver]

We see the same M4/AK being used, the same MBTs since now the presence of multiple tanks is gone, the same US vs RU

[wise zodiac]

You can still take an AR into a house and use it effectively.

[quasi parcel]

AR&Sniper, too nice to be true

[wide shore]

I agree.

[next onyx]

Dude they nerfed the ke7 so hard

First patch was enough

[slim quiver]

Yeah I know still, it’s just idk, in the game sense equating real life effectiveness go a game becomes dry. Everything is made for efficiency now anyways so ofc an AR will be good for anything

[next onyx]

Second was too far

Exchange a bit of fire rate for a larger mag? Yes.

[wide shore]

This is why I sing BF1’s praises until the sun doesn’t shine. There was sooo much variety. Everything looked different. Nothing was uniform. Each gun felt vastly different than the other.

[arctic grove]

Some weapons should be affected more than others by suppression imo

[slim quiver]

Yeah BF1 people used all types of weapons

[shy bronze]

Literally what

[next onyx]

Yeah nah suppression should just go.

Its a really bad mechanic that just screws people over.

[wide shore]

Tons of factions. Tons of maps from all across Europe, Middle East, Russia.

[arctic grove]

Just to stop ar spam an shit

[slim quiver]

Suppression is a terrible mechanic

[shy bronze]

Why can’t the 40mm KA52 completely obliterate infantry limbs???

[slim quiver]

All that used to manufacture their own weapons with character

[next onyx]

I know to keep my head down but if I can retaliate on the guy. yes

[desert elbow]

If they remove suppression I think it's appropriate to make LMGs/MMGs fairly more accurate

[next onyx]

Lmgs should be accurate. Not just big mag ars

[wide shore]

Suppression works for realistic shooters. But not BF

[desert elbow]

^

[slim quiver]

Suppression has not reason to be in an arcade game

[wise zodiac]

Suppression is a great mechanic, whaaaaat?!?

[arctic grove]

Lmgs by far the hardest weapons to balance

[next onyx]

Its what made lmgs in 5 actually incredible. Bren could beam a guy 50m plus if you learned the thing.

[wide shore]

I like the perk in BFV where shooting near an enemy spots them for your team. I think that’s a good use for the system.

[visual horizon]

truee, so atmospheric

[wise zodiac]

Did I just read that right?!

[next onyx]

Screwing over peoples aim isn't fair

[wide shore]

I fucking love the Bren. And the BAR. (Slow RPM mode)

[vocal tusk]

Suppression mechanics could be good if done correctly

[next onyx]

I hear an mg42 go off, I know to keep down. I shouldn't be penalised by the game just because another guy can't hit me.

[wise zodiac]

Then you get fire superiority with your friends

[shy bronze]

Skill issue

[next onyx]

Not everyone plays with friends.

[wise zodiac]

Then you move to a different location.

[next onyx]

He's just better

[tidal badge]

you can say that about anything

[wide shore]

This is why I think the system of spotting enemies you shoot near is a good one.

[wise zodiac]

I'm sorry, but suppression is important.

[next onyx]

Can't exactly move from the same viewpoint

[slim quiver]

IRL it’s important

[next onyx]

Dude if it spots me I'm fine

Let me actually aim

[slim quiver]

An arcade video game tho?

Eh

[wide shore]

Helps the team, and gives MMG players incentive to just hold down the trigger.

[arctic grove]

I do feel suppression is required to slow game down a touch