battlefield-2042

[lost vector]

They want BF 2042 fanboys to stay happy

[next tree]

Neither do people who hate specialists besides hating that they cant have anothwr gadget spot

[midnight verge]

i need a white ghillie suit so i can run around claiming to be the winter sniper and someone is like "you aint no avenger" and im like "no im the highlighter running through the blacklit rave"

[soft turtle]

to get new audiences its good

[desert elbow]

What's the point of being anti specialist when there's portal?

[soft turtle]

Well portal is good still

[arctic grove]

Yeah more people playing is good 👍🏾

[next tree]

Its to fix the fucking game in general

[stiff pollen]

Xbox forgetting that “hardcore” battlefield fans are extremely mentally deficient

[soft turtle]

well I can't blame them for that tho because COD fans have been stuck in the last 3 years

[arctic grove]

I just hope the maps in 2042 work with breakthrough. That's one of the reasons it was so good in BFV, it's because the naps were made for it.

It's the same thing with Rush in Bad Company 2. Maps were absolutely made for Rush, and that's why it felt so good to play in that game and...really not good in any game after, because afterwards the maps were designed for Conquest.

Xbox don’t care about minorities they have bigger fan base

[midnight verge]

fanatics in general are rocking loose noggin bolts

Mostly. not everyone lacks critical thought

[stiff pollen]

If dice somehow doesn’t manage to make sure 7 fucking maps mesh well with 2 modes, idk what to say

They’ve managed to fuck this up time and time again in the past bevause they had to fit like 8 modes into a map but now it’s only 3 core modes

[soft turtle]

and 6 old maps is good

[timid cosmos]

anti side has brought up issues of balance viability and them just looking bad, while pro is mainly herpa derp wingsuit

[lost vector]

Xbox care about Halo and Gears

[stiff pollen]

The old maps are based off the layout from the past games so it’ll be copy and pasted in terms of flag placement more than likely

[midnight verge]

wake island 24/7

[tame cobalt]

You must be thinking of bf1... Most bfv maps were conquest-first

[stiff pollen]

Except for breakthrough tho, I think they’ll have to figure that out

[next tree]

Balance is a good point however it doesnt seem to be a problem for long since dice is working on it

[arctic grove]

Nah, definitely thinking of BFV. I didn't play much of BF1, didn't like it.

No one really plays conquest on bf5 tbh

[tame cobalt]

Most Bf1 maps were made for breakthrough/operations first, bfv maps were conquest-first, with some exceptions such as Iwo Jima

[next onyx]

I'm saying it again. I can't wait to use the SCAR again

[next tree]

your wrong

[timid cosmos]

they struggled to balance previous games, this system will be the hardest to balance yet

i just see so many ways to cheese it

[lost vector]

You must be new to BF franchise

[next onyx]

To be honest. If they balance out Mackays Nimble and Ji soo's main gadget it will be well balanced.

[arctic grove]

Not

[lost vector]

Well I had a match of conquest last night too in BFV

[next onyx]

Infact that could make Nimble even better by having him vault over objectives better which would complement his grappling hook even better.

[soft turtle]

well most do breakthrough in the pacific

[arctic grove]

It was my experience that less people played Conquest in BFV based on how few matches I was able to find compared to Breakthrough.

[next onyx]

And have faster gun ADS tied to weapon attachments.

[hazy vector]

it feels like conquest is the most played mode

[next onyx]

Opposite here. In OCE conquest is the only one played

[lost vector]

Agreed

[soft turtle]

yeah

[next onyx]

We only have one breakthrough server up

Which doesn't come on all the time

[timid cosmos]

they have to hit a perfect spot of not being op while not being useless across 10 specialists or they wont get picked, or everyone picks

[stiff pollen]

In NA breakthrough is played but it’s LESS so than Conquest

[lost vector]

I am mostly into infantry and breakthrough

Kar 98 is ❤

[soft turtle]

tdm in BFV was nice ngl

[stiff pollen]

Breakthrough usually has worse vehicle whoring I’ve found

[tame cobalt]

2042 is the same as BFV in this regard: the maps are made for conquest first, but they try to keep a "journey in mind" while designing it, so that the breakthrough part of the design goes smoothly

[hazy vector]

there absolutely will be "meta" specialists and specialists only like 0.5% of people play

[timid cosmos]

and try and keep hazard mode balanced with aow

[lost vector]

Everything is nice in BFV tbh

As of 2021

[next onyx]

Yeah i won't lie Hijinks, The vehicle whores in there are worse

and i say this myself

Who whores the vehicles!

[tame cobalt]

Unlike BF4 where rush was barely an afterthought

[next tree]

[soft turtle]

nice but couldn't beat BF1 cinematic style, but BFV was good

[lost vector]

Agreed

[next onyx]

It definitely seemed like the three of the pacific maps were made around breakthrough

Wake island in concept has always been based around conquest assault

[timid cosmos]

all bf4 had to do was copy and paste the best bf3 rush maps but nar

[next onyx]

Breakthrough it's alright but whatever.

[lost vector]

Now people will defend 2042 is cinematic too bruh

[soft turtle]

but BFV did some things better than BF1, level details were increased as well

[lost vector]

Indeed Sire

[tame cobalt]

yes but those are the exception in bfv

[lost vector]

Debris and cinders filling up the atmosphere etc

Dark gritty and morbid

[desert elbow]

BF5 Debris weren't permanent though, hope they add that one day

[lost vector]

2042 on the other hand 🤡

[tame cobalt]

If 2042 has a map that plays trash in breakthrough, I'll just make a portal server that doesn't use that map

[soft turtle]

But I could hardly do a only in Battlefield moment in them, but was still good on the other hand, the reason it got hate was because of the women in game

[lost vector]

Cyborg

In WW2

[desert elbow]

BF5 is definitely one of my favourites in terms of gameplay

[lost vector]

Finally

[desert elbow]

I never said it was bad lol

[lost vector]

And graphics

[desert elbow]

BF5 Graphics are amazing, I can't tell whether they beat Battlefront 2 or not though

[lost vector]

2042 low poly trash

[desert elbow]

Sure

[timid cosmos]

the specialists probably the worst looking part

[lost vector]

[light flint]

Howdy chat

[timid cosmos]

mckay needs a bag on his head

[arctic grove]

the syringe gun probably shoots vaccines

[soft turtle]

BFV was an upgrade to BF1 detail and evolution, but BF2042 made the details beautiful and did some upgrades to the BFV details, with the rain going on the weapons and trees

[timid cosmos]

it shoots bleach

[arctic grove]

no

it shoots vaccines

[arctic grove]

"rain going on the weapons and trees" didnt those already exist ages ago?

[forest birch]

No way lol

[soft turtle]

Don't know, I hardly saw that on other BF games though ngl, but I am mistaken with the trees, they were already in BFV and BF4

[lost vector]

Orbital foliage looks phenomenal during weather and storm effects, and next moment pile of oversaturated colors with low poly textures with tone down destruction, not to forget, gun recoil animation and spread is a joke

[desert elbow]

Destruction is BC2 style and the recoil animation is fine

[arctic grove]

im talking about how many games (not the bf franchise) probably do

[tame cobalt]

Or just a sick helmet which he'll probably have

[proper vapor]

Sliding was so fun

[arctic grove]

are you talking about bf2042 or bf5

[soft turtle]

well yes those, but storm effects looks awesome, but hope they make some changes, plus these are SWBF2 devs, and it pissed me off to know that

[soft turtle]

oh yeah, for me I first saw that in Batman Arkham Knight

[tribal wyvern]

I still don't get why people who hate 2042 and have zero intentions of buying it and have canceled/never made their pre order are still here

[white geyser]

People play the beta and doesn't realize in the full game they'll put everything, it's only a beta and this idiots somehow completely forgot about that

[tribal wyvern]

It's cuz people expect it to be like a cod beta, same as launch product

[arctic grove]

I mean...

[arctic grove]

Almost every beta is like that actually

[timid cosmos]

or like previous bf betas

[arctic grove]

I've played almost every beta (think I missed Hardline) Battlefield has had since BF3. Aside from the obvious locked-out content, yeah, it's pretty much the actual game.

[timid cosmos]

where release wasnt much better

[next tree]

Except bf2042s was a build as old as the first trailer they didnt have much

[hazy vector]

so if stuff is locked out and not actually there, i'ts not the same game

[timid cosmos]

1942 was before betas where a thing it was actually called a demo

[arctic grove]

You tried to do a little "gotcha!" there but just ended up making yourself look kinda silly.

New trailer today pog

[desert elbow]

Really?

[arctic grove]

Maybe it’s Thursday

It's like, what are you saying, here? What, is the full game gunna be fucking Mass Effect? No, it's gunna be Battlefield 2042. The core concepts and gameplay is going to be essentially the same.

[timid cosmos]

core concepts like specalists?

[arctic grove]

Mass effect lel

[arctic grove]

[stiff pollen]

Can we get a battlefield in space actually

[midnight verge]

dump mines near airplane wheels wooo

[arctic grove]

Play halo

[stiff pollen]

I would like battlefield infinite warfare

[next tree]

NO

[arctic grove]

I'm not picking up what you're putting down, here. 😅

[stiff pollen]

“NO GO PLAY HALO”

[arctic grove]

Halo trash bf 2042 best game

[stiff pollen]

Aight

[stiff pollen]

👍

[arctic grove]

Get gud

[arctic grove]

Wow.

[remote kiln]

yeah they should be awarded for the effort

[arctic grove]

You know, I don't understand why mobile games are allowed to get away with so much shit.

Different platform

[remote kiln]

same here

[hazy vector]

because nobody cares

[molten trout]

they do

[next tree]

i got an ad for a shitty military game and the ad video was literally gameplay from the mw2r mission where you start to infiltrate hotel bravo

[arctic grove]

Only if someone snitches

[arctic grove]

False advertisement is still false advertisement, doesn't really matter what it's for. If I released a movie and said it was about space, I advertise it about space, and the cover art is about space, and you go to the theater and it's a Western... I would 100% expect to get sued.

U wouldn’t get sued it’s ur advertisement

[remote kiln]

that sounds oddly specific what movie did you release

[molten trout]

technically they are in space, on a planet

[hazy vector]

you wouldn't get sued, people will just leave bad reviews

[arctic grove]

U would just get tomato’s thrown at u for lying

[slow kraken]

Because the gaming community sucks now

[next tree]

Well shit he got ya rhere

[arctic grove]

I mean yeah, got a point there.

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Release (Gold/Ultimate)
Releases <t:1636700400:R>

[molten trout]

you can get sued for misleading advertising

[stiff pollen]

We need to take away internet access from peoples is all I’m saying

[next tree]

Thats why you shoot the sun with a water gun then wait for a time machine to happen then record before the big bang

[arctic grove]

But if u false advertise a food and someone dies of allergy then yeah u will get sued

Well yeah.

[stiff pollen]

This guy is big brain

[molten trout]

even if u mislead the public to promote ur business ur able to be sued

[stiff pollen]

False advertising is when product wrong

[hazy vector]

fun fact, due to legality fuckery you are allowed to have gluten in a product and still call it glutenfree

as the threshhold is like 20ppm

[remote kiln]

I mean yeah, got a point there.

[next tree]

Aswell as stuff with 0 calories in it they really have atleast 5 calories

[stiff pollen]

“Communism is when no iPhone”

[tribal wyvern]

Bruh how did the 2042 chat turn into 'you can get sued for x" stuff

[next tree]

LMAO

[stiff pollen]

Hmmm you hate capitalism yet you exist 🤨

[molten trout]

whats the problem if the convo goes off on a natural tangent

[arctic grove]

We are having a big brain talk no one cares about 2042 rn

[next tree]

You dont like feet yet you have some

[arctic grove]

This is education u shall learn with us

[solar moss]

Socialism is when the government does stuff

[urban olive]

Sounds like normal BF2042 chat to me 😐

[arctic grove]

You exist because no choice

[stiff pollen]

Speaking of which did y’all see the like to dislike ratio on Sundance reveal trailer

[arctic grove]

Wish I had a choice there.

[stiff pollen]

25 to 650

[arctic grove]

Nah what’s the ratio

25 likes? Nice

[next tree]

Someone said there was an argument over her being non binary bruh

[tame cobalt]

Let's find out. Ratio

[solar moss]

Wow the battlefield community is so wholesome

[slow kraken]

BF community is almost as bad as the COD community

[arctic grove]

Bf community hates Sundance

[stiff pollen]

It’s literally all people blaming: Jewish people, EA, Women, minorities, and a lot of swearing in other languages

[arctic grove]

Lol

[solar moss]

Average gamer

[next tree]

Uno reverse card plus knee caps

[remote kiln]

wtf is going on here

[stiff pollen]

The comment section on that video is honestly astounding

[arctic grove]

They should delete comments guess they don’t have YouTube mods

[slow kraken]

Yeah over the most stupidest thing ever, like who cares

[stiff pollen]

650 people not only watched the Sundance video but felt the need to dislike the video because pixels on a screen are NB

[arctic grove]

I just want Sundance face tattoo removed that’s all I could care about

Honestly, I love it when shit like this happens. It just outs everyone who complains as phobic. 😂

[stiff pollen]

It’s confirmed the face tat is just head cosmetics

[arctic grove]

Where u see that

[stiff pollen]

It’s a common rarity

They already explained there’s tons of head cosmetics for all specialists

[slow kraken]

Supply Drops. Thousands of face tattoos

[arctic grove]

Oh new blog?

[stiff pollen]

It was a blog from a while ago

[arctic grove]

Ah

[slow kraken]

Yeah you'll be able to put the moto helmet on sundance also

Dozer has a helmet as well

[arctic grove]

Their suit is sexy

[desert elbow]

I really like Dozer's uniform, looks like a juggernaut

[tribal wyvern]

I want to put on the reveal trailer cosmetics on them

They looked so cool in that suit

[stiff pollen]

Honestly man I was expecting more dislikes and views on the Paik video with the literal wall hacks but nah people really came out of the woodwork to project misogyny/homophobia on a fictional characters reveal trailer

[tame cobalt]

The Sundance skin in the hazard zone trialer was cool too imo

[stiff pollen]

Bloodhound got less hate for being announced as NB and they literally got wallhacks too

[desert elbow]

Maybe they should have free a "Assault, Support, Medic & Recon" uniform set which would change depending on your faction, a setting to make everyone wear them client side would be nice too

[molten trout]

weird af lol

[tribal wyvern]

I don't like their outrit with no suit

[arctic grove]

Yep. It's a double standard as well as internalized misandry/misogyny.

[stiff pollen]

People asked for a setting that only showed historical uniforms in BFV and it was never even acknowledged

[desert elbow]

Yeah however they were given historically accurate outfits atleast

[next tree]

i thought of like specialists and classes at the same time

[stiff pollen]

Also like all the hate comments were all in bad English so I’m assuming bot accounts/non English speakers

[desert elbow]

I like both, but I think it would please both sides having a stereotypical "grunt" outfit

[tame cobalt]

Skin sales 📉

[grizzled jungle]

id be rockin that tbh

[molten trout]

if they gave options itd be cool

[tribal wyvern]

No one would use it, mw and wz have it and no one uses iit, if you see someone using it they're always garbage

[desert elbow]

Well at least people wouldn't be able to use the "Clone Wars" complaint

[arctic grove]

Clone wars are indeed weird

[tribal wyvern]

They still will, because others using the grunt skin will also look the same

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Release (Gold/Ultimate)
Releases <t:1636700400:R>

[tribal wyvern]

So this implementation would fix nothing

[desert elbow]

Yep like in every other BF game but they still complain, I really don't see their point

[grizzled jungle]

They would look different on

[arctic grove]

All they have to do is change their faces with same abilities no more clones

[tribal wyvern]

Neither do i

[grizzled jungle]

different teams no?

[arctic grove]

Uniform wise yes not face

It’s ur twin brother with diff clothes same dna 🧬

[stiff pollen]

you can tell which people didn’t start playing games until a couple years ago when they get unhinged about “clones”

[slow kraken]

I think the issue people have the "clone wars" is both teams look the same. While previous games different factions had different skins

[stiff pollen]

“This game will FLOP because theres 20 German grandmas”

[grizzled jungle]

yeah.. no difference in faction.. Why have US and RU if they look identical??

[stiff pollen]

“I asked for battlefield, not CLONE WARS”

[slow kraken]

Attack of the Clones

[stiff pollen]

Cause it’s a proxy war or something Idfk, the lore is confusing

[hazy vector]

"if i wanted clonewars i'd play battlefront"

[desert elbow]

Yeah that's a fair point tbh

[arctic grove]

At least put certain specialists on one side but they barely made any specialists so now clones

[grizzled jungle]

At least in bf4 each team looked visually different.. Even in bf1.

[hazy vector]

if they make specialists pick a side than some sides will rarely be played

[stiff pollen]

They say the US and Russia are pitting no pats against each other in a proxy war yet the lore states they went into open war after Doha

[deft fossil]

tbf if they did that people would complain even more that they cant use certain specialist depending what side they are on

[arctic grove]

🇦🇪

[hidden sand]

Both teams looking the same looks really lazy, honestly. Not that the devs are, but it gives a very unfinished look to the game.

Faction specific characters makes way more sense but clearly they have no intention of doing that lol.

[deft fossil]

just give them a scarf/lights that signal they are the opposing team and fixed

[grizzled jungle]

no

[slow kraken]

Have you seen what Vanguard has done? They aren't adding in Germans or Japanese. It's all Allies forces and its "My Team" vs "The Enemy Team" lmao

[desert elbow]

It's a bit strange how the uniforms have no correlation to each other, Mackay has a cool digital camo which matches with Dozer nicely, however Casper and Falck seem to have a green Russian looking outfit
I reckon the US should be tan & the russians should be green, sort of like BF4

[arctic grove]

Giving diff uniforms wouldn’t make diff cause same specialist with same lore on other team and abilities

[peak socket]

im actually horrible at tanks. im more of an infantry person

[stark mason]

"no-pats" fighting for big countries was doomed from the beginning

[desert elbow]

Better than having no difference

[arctic grove]

True but we see the laziness in dice

[deft fossil]

people that do this then flex kd are 🤮

[grizzled jungle]

something no one is talking about is the easter eggs in bf2042.. wonder how many there will be

[desert elbow]

They are definitely not lazy, they introduced 2 extra modes which seem to both be games in themselves

[slow kraken]

Sadly the number 1 reason they have the same operators for different factions is to make money from skins. BF is doing it, COD is doing it and even Halo got rid of the Red vs Blue, they just have red and blue outlines now

[hidden sand]

Giving different uniforms would therefore change their silhouette so it would work, problem is that it doesn't work with their monetization plan.

Unless they had two outfit types. A selection for USA, which you'll be forced to use one of while playing and vice versa.

[hazy vector]

you can't give them different uniforms when everyone is going to make custom skinned clusterfucks, including bunny ears and pink guns if they could

[arctic grove]

Could have made a time travel lore like dr strange with variants would have made more sense

[deft fossil]

ok tbf i hated the red and blue thing i like it more if its just outlines dosent mess with coloring my armor

[peak socket]

and on the other hand im not a good bf player too

[remote kiln]

my kdr stat ∞

[peak socket]

i just play bf for fun not flexing kd

[slow kraken]

Yeah Halo isn't as bad because the red and blue outline is very easy to see and it makes sense in a Halo game but having a outline in a COD game or BF might not make as much sense

[hidden sand]

If they just had faction based (with both factions having distinct silhouettes) skins it would be fine, imo.

[arctic grove]

Bf isn’t meant to showcase kdr anyway it’s casual game

[deft fossil]

true

[hidden sand]

I just don't get why they didn't go with BFVs customization and elites lol. Ez money and it keeps factions looking distinct.

But dice be reinventing that wheel per usaul

[slow kraken]

The BF5 customization was bland apart from some of the elites looks cool

[hidden sand]

I'm talking about the system it uses not the actual cosmetics lol

It blows me away that they added a cliche Hollywood action hero star into the game, though lol

Those elites were ridiculous

[deft fossil]

didnt people complain about that too

[vale pier]

Took them until the pacific update to actually add the cosmetics people were asking

[hidden sand]

I mean, no, what people complained about were the cosmetics themselves and the obsession DICE had with gasmasks lol

[vale pier]

And goggles

[hidden sand]

Attack of the goggles and gasmasks

They were everywhere lmao

[vale pier]

Goggle on eyes, goggles on the helmet and a spare set of goggles on their belt

[deft fossil]

Misaki >>>

[hidden sand]

no

[deft fossil]

i dont even play bfv and know who misaki is

[tame cobalt]

Tfw you joined bfv too late to get misaki

[deft fossil]

im guessing she was the most popular skin the power of anime is strong

[hidden sand]

Misaki did not fit in that game imo

[vale pier]

She might have been ok, if there wasn't 30 of her running around

[deft fossil]

she looked like a ww2 soldier to me but with a katana

[hidden sand]

2042 era? All good, but a ww2 game specifically is just super weird imo because of the history surrounding Japanese women during ww2

Just reminds me of the Norway mission and how out of touch and direspectful it is to the true stuff behind it

[deft fossil]

bruh u mad because shes a girl

i thought it was gonna be the katana or something

[next onyx]

Hopefully we can get similar by the end of 2042

[deft fossil]

wtf is that

[next onyx]

I'm not hoping but it would be cool to see

[vale pier]

Yes, what you gunna do about it

[next onyx]

Basically. That's an APC that had a pod launcher

[deft fossil]

play as her

[next onyx]

And they're attacking a titan

Misaki is a cool elite.

[deft fossil]

that sounds pretty cool ngl

[hidden sand]

No? I don't care that theres women in the game, It's specifically the history behind it that makes me kinda go hm towards the fact she was added

But it's a game at the end of the day and its not that big of a deal

[deft fossil]

bruh werent their women with prosthetics in the first trailer who cares. If u want it to be 100% accurate just go watch a documentary

[vale pier]

Fuck discord mobile

[deft fossil]

true

[hidden sand]

Where did I say I wanted 100% accuracy?

[next onyx]

I don't think Suika meant that.
Apparently people were recalling the Misaki were part of the paratroopers or something?

[deft fossil]

i dont get it

[vale pier]

Battlefield has never been very realistic or accurate, but the prosthetics things was maybe a bit too dumb.

[next onyx]

Her outfit, But i'm not sure.

[hidden sand]

Man it would have been so cool to have a war story about the Russian Women who were snipers

[next onyx]

It would have been nice if they added a pacific war story

I get it's a one off thing but that's... that.

But that as well would have worked really well Suika

[deft fossil]

idk her outfit fits the theme for me but im not a historian

actually she should have a school girl uniform

[hidden sand]

Imagine them adding adding Stalingrad from 1942 pls DICE L.A. pls

[next onyx]

That being said Suika, What i liked about bf1 were the codex entires.

[proven torrent]

bfv was a missed opportunity for dice on many fronts..... Hope they put the extra time into 2042 in good ways.... esp. portal, i'm skeptical of its release state

[hidden sand]

Were there codex entries in BFV as well? I can't recall

[next onyx]

Bf1!

[ionic coyote]

they should have just remade this tbh

then for the next game remake 1942

[next onyx]

You mentioning the Russian snipers made me remember how despite the fact it was filled with info about everything, There were those few anomalies that actually had you learna bout them.

[proven torrent]

which is why I think battlefield portal might be a better WWII experience than bfv itself..... if done right obv... and its a bit early to say this.... but DICE LA/Ripple effect should come to rescue as always...

[next onyx]

Honestly with bf5 when i played it i just took it in as a ww2 themed battlefield game.

[hidden sand]

The codex entries were such a damn good touch to the game in BF1. It really felt like DICE cared about getting that history across even if it wasn't through the gameplay. I don't think we'll ever get the same quality from BF1 again honestly lol.

[slow kraken]

The two maps from 1942 in Portal alone will make a 1942 server better than BF5 for me personally

[next onyx]

Despite my issues with bf1, I really did enjoy the neat little things you learned from it.

[ionic coyote]

yea same

[next onyx]

Playing the name of the tsar for the first time (as i came back from a depressive episode) it felt like a new magical experience, A genuine adventure which got me back into gaming again.

[hidden sand]

Battlefront 2015 and Battlefield 1 were the last of how far DICE can go it seems like, it's really a shame.

[slow kraken]

I loved that DLC

[hazy vector]

they'd need to redcon how much they fucked 2142 being cannon in2042. unless they just push the titan development like 100 years ahead

[hidden sand]

They poured their heart and souls into those two games. It really showed imo.

[slow kraken]

Volga River and Tsaritsyn were really fun

[next onyx]

I mean, The E.U had their own titan up by then as well

So at some point the Americans learned about the titans

[raw vale]

volga = fun
tsaritsyn = nah

[proven torrent]

I played bf1 quite late like... from early this year.... and having a blast ever since.... is it true that it had the best launch of any bf? with minimal server issues/bugs?... I wasn't on the hype train in 2016...

[hazy vector]

yeah, but europe is gone, in 2142 the US is gone iirc

[next onyx]

And final stand technically never happened, The U.S Never really attacked the facilities.

Oh that is true

[raw vale]

i was on the BF1 hypetrain but didnt get to play it

[next onyx]

It's possible for them to renew but yes, i completely forgot that the E.U crashed.

[raw vale]

i only got to play BF1 4 years later when it became free on amazon prime

[deft fossil]

i still remember they got snoopdog to play it

[next onyx]

Why couldn't they at least kept with the Americans in the original concept for 2142! Dammit!

[raw vale]

not only snoopdog but shit ton of celebrities

[proven torrent]

same... I bought revolution when it was on sale at the same time...

[hazy vector]

they were radical with the US being gone in 2142, they probably don't want to repeat that in the current political climate, or something

[next onyx]

I do wonder why they got rid of the U.S in the original concept for 2142

It was based on another planet we know that much as well

Maybe they used Earth as a restart for their vision

[hazy vector]

it wasn't? it talked about europe freezing over

[hidden sand]

It was hands down the most stable release they've ever had it feels like. Even the alpha performed really well, with minimal bugs. Beta even more so, and so on.

[deft fossil]

i really liked the bf1 beta

[next onyx]

There was a map named Northern mountain pass which we only know of because of recovered data

Hang on

[deft fossil]

i was a console pleb back then

[proven torrent]

no wonder its so fun and polished years later when I play now...

[deft fossil]

🔍

[arctic grove]

Anyways. Time to ruin this chat. Let’s talk about anime guns for 2042

[proven torrent]

detective way

[peak socket]

what is this

[deft fossil]

id buy it

[next onyx]

The original concept for 2142

[arctic grove]

P90 anime gun skin

[hidden sand]

Do you prefer the original concept for 2142, Way?

[deft fossil]

yandere specialist skin

[arctic grove]

Oh yes

Maid outfit specialist skin

[next onyx]

I dunno what to say

[tame cobalt]

unpopular opinion but I'd be ok with 2042 leading into a 2142 reboot 👀

[deft fossil]

[next onyx]

I'm not too opposed to the original idea

[deft fossil]

cat girl skin

[arctic grove]

Yes

[remote kiln]

[peak socket]

a battlefield game on another planet? sure!

[arctic grove]

Bro we get it already my god ur boring

[peak socket]

this is the beginning

[deft fossil]

it will only get better

[next onyx]

I think it's cool, The fact that it was based on another planet but at the same time, the fights itself would feel meaningless as we have no connection to it.

[peak socket]

of the transformation

[remote kiln]

your name is tuna nuff said

[arctic grove]

Bro omg

[slow kraken]

Same

[deft fossil]

collabs with anime and they add all might as a skin

[next onyx]

Since yeah, This is a game and it doesn't really mean much. But when you base these things on earth, on cities you know. It feels more like home.

[arctic grove]

Evangelion collab

[raw vale]

i'm watching a video and lars gustavson said that BF1 has been an idea since 2008

[deft fossil]

they add a new mode and we pilot evas

[hidden sand]

2142 needs to have EU and PAC, set on earth, with the same climate issues in it's story remaining the same

So if they were to continue it with the next game after 2042, that's my hopes for it lol

[slow kraken]

No keep anime out of BF please

[deft fossil]

no

[arctic grove]

Sword Art Online GGO collab

[azure citrus]

hi

[arctic grove]

It actually fits way too much than it should

[deft fossil]

her p90 as a skin ez

[distant briar]

Agreed

[tame cobalt]

Yeah 2142 is too soon for alien planet warfare

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah it’s just a pink top. It’s easy money for EA ima email them about it

[deft fossil]

sinon skin

[arctic grove]

omg yes. Add her sniper too

[deft fossil]

you all hate it now but anime is inevitable

[arctic grove]

[slow kraken]

[distant briar]

Nah thats sus

[arctic grove]

?

[deft fossil]

?

[tame cobalt]

sussy

[arctic grove]

Baka

[distant briar]

Baka

[deft fossil]

make her a recon specialist too

[slow kraken]

Don't you lie to me Walt

[hidden sand]

Definitely. I think keeping it on earth really helped the art direction. Honestly it reminds me a lot of Battlestar Galactica (the reboot) in regards to it's atomsphere. Which is 100% a compliment.

god Id kill for a Battlestar Galactica BF styled game

[arctic grove]

YAAASSS

[azure citrus]

[arctic grove]

How me and the squad gonna look playing Battlefield 2042

[deft fossil]

SHEEEEEEESH

[arctic grove]

The map even fits

[oblique finch]

talking about battlefield. 14 days!

[deft fossil]

ACTUALLY TRUE

[arctic grove]

[oblique finch]

well, 14 days and 22 hours, 35 minutes

but still

dun dun dun

[arctic grove]

Still 14 days

[hidden sand]

Man Battlestar Galactica is literally the perfect setting for a Battlefield game, DICE pls make a spin off BF game with that as the setting I'd give you my life savings 😔

[deft fossil]

bf2042 boutta look like GATE in a year or two

[tame cobalt]

15 days but aight

[arctic grove]

Nah 14

Says 14 right there bro I’m looking at it

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Release (Gold/Ultimate)
Releases <t:1636700400:R>

[tame cobalt]

1️⃣5️⃣

[next onyx]

Meh

Close enough.

[oblique finch]

14 days \o/

[deft fossil]

it looks like 14 to me

[next onyx]

15 days for me.

[arctic grove]

Idk man I see 14

[deft fossil]

the more i look at it the closer it looks to 13

[next onyx]

But not exactly 14

[oblique finch]

if you think about it, it is a 1 and 4, so just 5 days until release!

[arctic grove]

Actually true

[slow kraken]

It's closer to 15 than 14

[desert elbow]

fr?

[arctic grove]

But what’s five minus one

Exactly

[oblique finch]

the funny number

[dull cedar]

it also says 15 days on my end

[deft fossil]

wait is it 15 for the EU frogs

[hidden sand]

Battlefield 2 or Battlefront 2?

[dull cedar]

battlefield 2

[arctic grove]

But the last bf game was BF5 so subtract that to the release date and it’s actually 9 days

[hidden sand]

Absolute Legend

[arctic grove]

Because it’s 9 days and 22 hours so

[peak socket]

14 days 22 hours 29 minutes until 2042

[slow kraken]

EU gets it a few hours early because we are POG

[arctic grove]

The game comes out in 9 days

[deft fossil]

its 14 days for na

[next onyx]

funny part about the release date is that it isn't even released round midnight for me

[deft fossil]

bf5 minus bf4 is 1 so its actually 1 day

[next onyx]

It's at a mere 5:30 PM

[peak socket]

its 14 days

[arctic grove]

HOLY SHIT UR RIFHT

[peak socket]

not 9

[arctic grove]

THE GAME COMES OUT IN 1 DAY AND 22 HOURS

[deft fossil]

wait BF1 - BF1 is 0

[arctic grove]

Bro 22 hours then

[peak socket]

now what

[arctic grove]

[peak socket]

bf 22?

[deft fossil]

2-2 is 0 THE GAME IS OUT RIGHT NOW

[arctic grove]

No you have to add

[deft fossil]

damn

[arctic grove]

There’s no numbers to take away so you add 2

[hidden sand]

Just buy the disc version and spin the disc on your finger really fast, the game will load in your brain

[arctic grove]

So technically the game comes out in 2 days

[slow kraken]

I've already got it, get on my level

[next onyx]

I do wonder actually

Will my EB games give out copies early?

Earlier than 5:30?

[slow kraken]

Go to your local Mom & Pop store

[hidden sand]

wait is there a disc version of the game?

[next onyx]

Than gain the servers will probably open right on release

yes

[deft fossil]

2 days is 48 hours 48x48 is =2304 hours divided by 24 is 96 so we still have 96 days left

[arctic grove]

Fuck

[slow kraken]

For console yes

[dull cedar]

NOOOOOOOOO

[arctic grove]

96 days till the release guys...

[deft fossil]

we went from 22 hours to 96 days we down horrendous

[hidden sand]

Wtf I should have gotten the physical copy then, I assumed it would be a digital download
Shame there's no steelbook

[arctic grove]

Absolutely

[tame cobalt]

Yes that's how time works

[slow kraken]

21 days for me lol

[hidden sand]

What platform do you play on Way?

[next onyx]

Xbox

You?

[peak socket]

there are minutes left

[hidden sand]

PS4

[next onyx]

Ahhh

[peak socket]

23 minutes actually are left

[deft fossil]

game got delayed we gotta wait 96 days

[next onyx]

Honestly for those wanting to get the game on last gen should just get it digitally anyways

Since whatever edition you'll get you'll get the free upgrade. (confirmed by freeman)

[peak socket]

thank god

[hidden sand]

Oh nice

Ngl I'm kinda surprised the PS4 version was running at 60 fps at times

[next onyx]

They cut corners whenever they could and still pretty solid experience

[gaunt plank]

EA give something away for free? lol

[low timber]

Many times

[peak socket]

you mean if i get standard, ill get gold?

[slow kraken]

A moment of silence for all the people getting it on last gen

[next onyx]

On digital yes

[hidden sand]

I'm convinced the lighting is why the game looks so bad visually in areas
Because when it was storming in-game, it looked just as good as BF1 imo

[next onyx]

Hang on

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[peak socket]

then i shold be playing on console

so i get ultimate if i buy gold

[hidden sand]

Imo theres not much of a difference visually between last gen and current gen
Performance was surprisingly good during the beta

[slow kraken]

No it doesn't work like that

[desert elbow]

I'd say the lighting is really accurate on orbital but it's a bit too saturated

[peak socket]

wouldnt matter im a pc player

[desert elbow]

Looks fine imo though

[hidden sand]

Man I was really hoping for MW2019-esque visuals for this game, but one can dream lol

[peak socket]

at least its not fortnite, but in 10 years it will be

[dull cedar]

if you buy gold, you get gold. if you buy ultimate, you get ultimate. and if you buy the base game on last gen, you get a free upgrade to the next gen version.

[slow kraken]

MW19 looks damn good but visibility is shit on that game

[peak socket]

0.0001 chunk rendering

[hidden sand]

It's honestly really hard to tell if the textures are bad plus bad lighting, or if its just the lighting thats bad in 2042

[desert elbow]

MW Looks really good because the maps are extremely small (Which lets them put a lot of detail in easily) and the lighting is static

[icy tide]

Buy raw 2042 now for a huge price: meh...
Buy 2042 for a great discount 2-3 years after release: hmm, good

[peak socket]

dynamic lighting means it needs to be good all the time

[peak socket]

Buy 2042 for a great discount 2-3 years after release when new battlefield game comes out: mehhh

[desert elbow]

Not necessarily, dynamic lighting can be good or bad

[hidden sand]

I wonder if it'll go half off a week after launch like BFV did lol

[peak socket]

no i mean the map design

[desert elbow]

Ohhhhhhhh right

[icy tide]

Meh? Look, for example, on bf4. It's still great and have stable online even when the next bf (hardline) is released

[slow kraken]

I think it will do better than BF5 so maybe not that quick but probably like a month after

[icy tide]

I don't think that bf2042 will die after the next bf game

[hearty kiln]

15 days?

[slow kraken]

Depends if the new game has Portal or not I reckon

[full chasm]

Define die

[peak socket]

no like whats the point of buying it at a discount right when a new bf is out

[slow kraken]

Portal gives 2042 the chance to stay alive for many years

[peak socket]

they are aleady making a new game for 2023

[full chasm]

People just say a game if is dead if it dosent have 100000 concurrent players playing it

[hidden sand]

As unfortunate as it is they are definitely already working on the next BF game, EA can't have an ounce of patience

[slow kraken]

Battlefront 3

[icy tide]

ok, then what about buying game after 1-1.5 years after release? The game will be polished and patched, it will give you better experience

[next onyx]

if you really want it you might as well just get it straight up

[peak socket]

understandable, have a great day disappears into thin air

[slow kraken]

Battlefield needs longer than 2 years, I would say 4 would be fine. Battlefield games are arguably bigger than COD games and the COD devs get 3 years to make a game while BF only gets 2?

[desert elbow]

Ngl I think I'd prefer they spent their time on Battlefront 3 instead of a new battlefield for their next release

[icy tide]

I never bought any game after the next day after release and I didn't regret that

[slow kraken]

Same

[forest birch]

Better thing to do

[peak socket]

unless they are made simultaneously

[hidden sand]

Could be happening
DICE has full control over the Battlefront series so its up to them, they know we want it

[peak socket]

dice makes battlefront?

[hearty kiln]

Battlefield 1642

[forest birch]

But I think Bf 2042 will be good

[scarlet cloak]

They do

[peak socket]

Battlefield 0042

[desert elbow]

Yeah a lot of Battlefront assets were used in BF1/5

[slow kraken]

I still think that would be a bad idea making two BF games at the same time. Things could get messy

[hearty kiln]

Nerf iron weapons

[hidden sand]

God if DICE tries to reinvent the wheel for Battlefront rather than using the content built up from BF2 I will lose my mind lol

[peak socket]

change>old stuff

[slow kraken]

Wouldn't surprise me. DICE have a habit of changing things that don't need changed

[grizzled jungle]

anit broke dont fix it

[slow kraken]

Yup

[icy tide]

I agree, it will be even better than now. It's very raw for now, they forgot a lot of features from previous bfs and I hope that they will add them later

[hazy vector]

they're doing a sims 4 and releasing a bare game and then patching everything back in /s

[hidden sand]

Battlefront 3 needs to be Battlefront 2 with more content. There is no excuse to not have all of the content from BF2 in it. So I really hope it does.

[peak socket]

first of all, most features missing are from bfv

[grizzled jungle]

ok? This is about 2042

[peak socket]

backwards proning, fortifications, crouching and running, rolling etc that arent needed

like it wont make sense in a modern setting

[grizzled jungle]

i never played bfv, never will

[hidden sand]

? Change for the sake of change is not a good thing. Innovation should keep the core while improving upon it. Throwing away years of progress for no reason is ridiculous. The only major change Battlefront needs is to be more like Battlefield. Because thats why the originals were so good in the first place.

[peak socket]

battlefront is not equal to battlefield and should stay that way

[frail sparrow]

There is a reason. Thry wanted to use specialists instead of classes ;D

[hidden sand]

What? Battlefront was popular because it was trying to be like Battlefield lol. That's part of why a lot of people were upset with these last two games. It absolutely needs to be like Battlefield.

[peak socket]

battlefield: grounded in 21st century or 20th
battle front: god knows where

different themes different mechanics it should be like that

different themes different games different expereinces

[hidden sand]

Battlefront at it's core is a Battlefield clone, there is no reason to change that. If you want anlther style of game, then it needs to be a new game entirely. Not changing battlefront.

[hazy vector]

i don't recall the OG battlefronts trying to be like battlefield

[hidden sand]

Main gamemode was conquest, there were classes, vehicles on the ground to hop in, etc. Was literally a Battlefield clone, that's what made it so good.

[peak socket]

it didnt have planes

[hazy vector]

conquest/capture the flag is a gamemode is almost anythin tho

[hidden sand]

It's a star wars game. Are you trolling? Lol.

[grizzled jungle]

no planes in space?

[peak socket]

space ships in space. not planes

[full chasm]

Same thing

Like the idea

[grizzled jungle]

so why would you say "it didn't have planes"

[hidden sand]

I mean I dunno what to tell you. It was using that exact class based, open map sandbox, formula battlefield uses.

[grizzled jungle]

obs it wouldn't have planes

[hidden sand]

The ships work the same as planes in regards to gameplay lol. They're in atmosphere and space.

If you want Battlefront to be a different game, then you're wanting a new game entirely. Changing a game to be something entirely different doesn't make it good. It makes it inconsistent and far from the original.

[frail sparrow]

If it's space ship and not space plane, does that mean you sail in space or fly in space?

[hidden sand]

I think with this 2042 stuff, it's exactly this mentality that bothers me. There is no reason to change the formula of a series, instead of keeping it and improving upon it like every past game has done. Changing that doesn't make it automatically good.

[austere furnace]

no

the feeling and handling between an xwing and a f35 is totally different

[tame cobalt]

Backwards prone is not a missing feature, it's a feature that was intentionally omitted to improve the game

[hidden sand]

[austere furnace]

yep, but was good imo

[icy tide]

they even forgot about leaning from bf4+ games, why are they in a hurry?

[austere furnace]

let's be honest, who does even use that mechanic

[next onyx]

Backwards prone was just flexible

It's no different than a guy laying on their belly

[hidden sand]

Imagine blaming your poor visibility on a feature that had nothing to do with making visibility what it was in BFV

Supine prone was not the cause of bad visbility, it was bad on its own

[austere furnace]

no, it's different

[arctic grove]

Pink anime guns in 2042 would be cool

[frail sparrow]

The question is what is the core essence of bf? Classes have been plenty to only 4 or 5. Squads changed in sizes, weapons being faction limited or not has changed. Large maps or small depends on what bf you play. In reality, the real core essence is objective based teamplay (that never changed) and you still have that in bf2042

[next onyx]

Visibility in 5 was horrid at the start

[desert elbow]

Battlefront was made to be a Star Wars Battlefield game

[icy tide]

it's useful in some situation. When I used it in a right monent, I had more advantage

[arctic grove]

At first it was

[hidden sand]

God damn we agree for once

[austere furnace]

by laying on the back you can crawl backwards and ads

[arctic grove]

The EA battlefronts aren’t really battlefield reskins which I think was a bad idea

[hazy vector]

i think we need a pirate planet inspired battlefield game, that'll solve everything /s

[arctic grove]

Because now you have DICE scrambling out weird ideas that sometimes don’t work

[desert elbow]

Battlefront 2004 was basically Battlefield infantry combat, while Battfront 2 2005 cut down on many of the infantry things (proning etc) in favor of air combat, with ship boarding etc

[desert elbow]

haha it was bound to happen

[desert elbow]

They have an amazing atmosphere though, photogrammetry made both reboots look like they were straight out of the movies

[austere furnace]

way higher ttk, gameplay made for tps

[arctic grove]

But everything else was meh

[hidden sand]

"I think BF should be plants vs zombies from now on. It's different, that makes it good." Is what it seems like some of these people mean lol

[hazy vector]

nah, just reduce it team fortress levels of basic

[desert elbow]

Eh idk, they were really good but smaller scale for sure. I'd say the reboots have maps perfect for Rush styled gamemodes

[arctic grove]

Because that’s what they were really only designed to be

[hidden sand]

It will never not be funny to me that DICE, the very company Battlefront copied for it's gameplay, could not make a proper Battlefront game LOL

[arctic grove]

Rush maps. You saw Battlefront 1... the only good large scale gamemode was walker assault

[hidden sand]

I love battlefront 1 and 2 but they are not good Battlefront games

All I need, is vehicles spawn on the map, classes, 64 player conquest, and decent weapon variety and I'm sold on a BF3

[arctic grove]

That’s basically a battlefield reskin

[desert elbow]

If they ever make a Battlefront 3, I honestly hope the do quality over quantity in terms of maps. I'd totally take 2 maps for each trilogy at launch, if they were all as detailed as BF2015/BF2017, but just bigger scale

[desert elbow]

Well that's what it's meant to be

[hidden sand]

Yes, thats exactly what Battlefront is supposed to be lol.

[arctic grove]

But they never did that

[deft fossil]

I only played on clone wars maps

[arctic grove]

The only thing battlefield about the new battlefronts is battlefront 2’s galactic conquest thing and it isn’t really that good imo

[desert elbow]

They did, try BF2 2005 & compare it to battlefield 2, you'd be surprised how similar it is

[arctic grove]

That’s not EA Battlefront

[hidden sand]

Battlefront was a series of games by Pandemic Studios before DICE rebooted the series in 2015, those games were Battlefield clones. That's why they were so good in the first place.

[arctic grove]

Then why do they not do that

[hidden sand]

Because DICE cannot resist reinventing the wheel for shit.

[desert elbow]

Ohhhh you're talking about Dice's battlefront. They had a mode dedicated to conquest fans called Capital Supremacy

[arctic grove]

Why are they these different games now. Like they aren’t different games and never were. I remember people bitching about how the first dice battlefront was just going to be a battlefield clone and then people bitched when it wasn’t

[arctic grove]

I already said it wasn’t even that good

[hidden sand]

Eventually they added Conquest to BF2, and it reintroduced classes, but its far from being a proper Battlefront.

[arctic grove]

That should’ve been in the first game.

[desert elbow]

It was

However it was Supremacy, not Capital Supremacy

[hidden sand]

No it wasn't, you're thinking of Supremacy, that was more like breakthrough except you could be pushed back

[arctic grove]

Wasn’t it just walker assault? Like it wasn’t a traditional battlefield conquest mode. It sucked.

[hidden sand]

Walker Assault was the main gamemode, yeah.

[arctic grove]

And no I didn’t pay for the DLC of a shit game

Idk what modes they included

[hidden sand]

Man on man if there is not 64 player conquest at launch for BF3 😔

[arctic grove]

Along with some broken shit being added

[bronze thorn]

Hi everyone!

[hidden sand]

Battlefront 2015 proved imo that freestyle gadgets aren't going to work but oh well, we will see how it goes

[bronze thorn]

Just because something doesn't work in one game. Doesn't mean it won't work in another.

[arctic grove]

It doesn’t work

[hidden sand]

If they just restricted gadgets to classes I would not mind specialist one bit

[arctic grove]

^

[bronze thorn]

I'm really excited for the change from the norm.

[hidden sand]

The point I'm making is that people only chose what was good for themselves, and they beta was already showing that. I don't see it working, personally. I think class restricted gadgets is much more fitting. Just my opinion, though.

[bronze thorn]

ok let me ask you a fair question.

How many times when playing solo in a squad with randoms on BF3 / 4 / V / 1 did you get a squad that communicated and synergised with each other?

In my personal experience I was always in a squad with 2-3 assault and one recon off doing their own thing.

There was no balance in the squad. Hell... half the time my squad were dotted all over the map doing their own thing anyway.

[full finch]

It was a warm summer 1982....

[low timber]

Last time I remember seeing a random squad mate with a mic on and talking (not by accident where they only breath heavily) was in Bf3 and I was playing Kharq Island.

[slow kraken]

Yeah people always say Battlefield is a very team focused game but in the real world squads hardly ever communicate unless you are in a party with people

It's been like that since at least Bad Company

[tame cobalt]

Yes, supine prone is bad on its own

[bronze thorn]

I'm not saying your feedback is invalid. It isn't. But at the same time. Unless people are playing with friends, They're isn't going to be any synergy anyway. Regardless of how well or restricted our kit selections are.

2042 is just giving the individual player more freedom to support themselves ( and their friends / teammates ).

[slow kraken]

For some reason people think throwing ammo and health packs on the ground is the pinnacle of team work

[hidden sand]

Pretty often, in terms of reviving and ammo. But it's not just the squads I rely on, teamplay was strong within teammates. There is no incentive now to be that supportive role because there are no sacrifices to be made. People are going to go with the meta even more so now, because this game currently supports a way more selfish playstyle.

[bitter hill]

I'll wingsuit all day

[bronze thorn]

You can still have a squad of friends and choose to each kit yourselves differently to suit what the squad needs.

[scarlet cloak]

I've never had synergy with any team xd

[hidden sand]

I didn't have to rely on my friends to have proper teamplay in past games, and that is an issue in my opinion.

[bronze thorn]

This is my argument. The most common complaint I see about specialists is they remove teamwork.

But there never was any teamwork to begin with.

[hidden sand]

I mean I've generally experienced teamwork in the games even when I'm not playing with friends lol.

[bronze thorn]

I currently play BF4 more than any other BF and I've never in living memory had random people in my squads that communicated.

[bronze thorn]

That's great! I'm happy for you. I'm just speaking from personal experience.

[bitter hill]

rush hard-core bf4

[bronze thorn]

I don't play hardcore.

[hazy vector]

i've never had voice communication on anyway. but there was some team work in some squads i played in with staying together

[bitter hill]

hardcore is the best

[slow kraken]

I think in 2042 if people want to throw ammo or health or revive then they'll still do that. Even if DICE has to tweak it a bit

[low timber]

One problem is that most people uses Discord, Party chat etc. to communicate so the in-game voip stays unused.

[desert elbow]

Maybe there should be a blip above anyone on your team which has an ammo or a medic icon if they have either of those gadgets

[hidden sand]

Battlefield V perfected incentivising teamwork. Being a medic in that game was fun as hell and rewarding, being support was rewarding and fun to. But they came at the cost of not being able to take on a tank, or give ammo, or give health, etc. Classes were restricted so you had a role to go with. That's gone now, and the incentive is no longer present. People are going to play with what's best, if you think otherwise, then you're massively underestimating the playerbase.

[slow kraken]

Yeah and same for people who need health and ammo

[hidden sand]

I always get revived, get ammo, get repaired in BFV. I dont think there is a single match I come out annoyed that no one is working together.

[slow kraken]

I wouldn't call BF5 the best game for teamwork

[hidden sand]

But lets ignore all the improvements BFV made in regards to teamplay and continue to compare to BF4 to try and prove your point lol.

[stiff pollen]

Hardline did it best where they just let you grab shit off people if they didn’t do their job

[hidden sand]

BFV had that too.

[stiff pollen]

Oh your teammate is being chased? Yeah just grab the RPG from the trunk

[slow kraken]

"Pull that RPG out his ass soldier!"

[stiff pollen]

Tactically turning the radio on to psychologically impact the enemy

[copper rock]

[stiff pollen]

They’ll think twice when they see their friends get ran over by a Honda blasting fuck the Police

[hidden sand]

I love how a DICE dev even agreed with you @bronze thorn
Do you devs seriously not know your own improvement?

Like nothing wrong agreeing with it, but like, why are we ignoring all of the improvements BFV made in regards to teamplay lol.

[copper rock]

How many of those devs worked on bfv?

[hidden sand]

You don't need to have worked on the game to know the improvements lol

[copper rock]

Kind of do

[scarlet cloak]

I dunno what team mates you've had in 5 but I've never had teamwork in 5

[hidden sand]

Yeah nvm you're trolling lmao

[copper rock]

K then

[scarlet cloak]

[slow kraken]

https://twitter.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1453621112902881282?s=20

[scarlet cloak]

I've always had medics walk by me despite clearly holding left click to stay alive to get revived countless times

[hidden sand]

Then you're unlucky as hell lol
Pretty rare I have a game lacking in it personally, but everyones experiences are different.

[slow kraken]

Every BF game you get medics or support walk right by you without reviving or throwing ammo

[cloud zodiac]

teamwork in battlefield only exist if you play with friends

[hidden sand]

This isn't true but alrght

[scarlet cloak]

This actually happened to me yesterday LOL

Run out of ammo in bf3 and no one was playing support

[cloud zodiac]

my experience with 2k+ hours total in all battlefields lol

[acoustic oar]

sometimes its not the best to insta rezz if there is still enemy around

[dim blade]

Specialist specific teamwork is only feasible with friends

[cloud zodiac]

sure some teamwork is there but its neligible

[hidden sand]

My experience with 2,000 hours of BFVs improvements to teamplay lol

[cloud zodiac]

reason why you arent getting revived in the beta cause the medic keeps picking up the fucking weapon

[stiff pollen]

My teammates in V were only good to revive me and toss occasional heals and ammo

Maybe a repair guy in a blue moon

[cloud zodiac]

when that bug is fixed there will be a lot more revives

[hidden sand]

This is why it's such a downgrade, imo. It works with friends and that's it.

[upbeat sand]

does anyone think speciallists are ok

[scarlet cloak]

90% of the time in squads I've played were all just scattered

[upbeat sand]

i like

[scarlet cloak]

I've never had a squad stick together ever

[bronze thorn]

I don't think they're "ok". I think they're a fantastic change and I can't wait to play the live game. I'll probably be a granny main for sure.

[hidden sand]

"Well teamplay was barely in BF4 so let's remove it as whole instead of fixing its issues!" like god damn I am so tired of that excuse lol

[plush swallow]

I mean meh, if they brought back the classes like old battlefield on portal

[copper rock]

People will always argue that specialists are bad, but they have never played the full release game and until they do and we all get to see it, I don't take anyone's opinion about them seriously

[dim blade]

I dont like the riot shield and reveal grenade specialist tho, feels unneccesary

[plush swallow]

It's gonna be awesome

[upbeat sand]

grandma what are you doing

"im killing russians what do you think"

[scarlet cloak]

Give me sundance ty

[upbeat sand]

everyone when sundance takes off the mask

[hidden sand]

The wallhacks flat out do not belong in Battlefield imo. Nothing can make that ability work without changing it entirely.

[scarlet cloak]

You won't like the portal 1942 soilder traits then lol

[acoustic oar]

can just disable them

[scarlet cloak]

True but still some servers might not

[bronze thorn]

Do you know what happens when you try to enforce teamwork? Overwatch.

Overwatch REQUIRES teamwork. It's one of the reasons it's community is so hell bent on being toxic.

Nobody likes relying on randoms to help them win. They'd rather "Carry".

Enforcing teamwork to the extend you're talking about is nothing short of mad.

[copper rock]

Chances are most of these people have never played that game haha

[hidden sand]

I do not. I have no idea why they keep adding these ridiculous spot mechanics.

[scarlet cloak]

It was a thing in the og 1942?

[hidden sand]

No, lol.

[bronze thorn]

How about we try it in the live game before we start calling it broken or op.

Dice aren't stupid. They wouldn't add it to the game if they didn't think they could balance it.

[slow kraken]

There's team work in all the BF games but just not as much as some people make it out to be. Like some of the older BF trailers showed loads of team work going on and you don't get that unless your whole squad is communicating

[cloud zodiac]

game is only 2 weeks away

[tender folio]

Dota 2, That game heavily requires team work. lol It can literally ruins someone's day if he gets a bad teammate.

[scarlet cloak]

Too far away

[copper rock]

Let people bitch, they are just venting to a wall, wont change the fact ive pre ordered and will play the game

[cloud zodiac]

i want to slip into a 2 weeks coma this is too much

[desert elbow]

I don't mind the shield, it's a cool gadget

[bright sphinx]

I liked it when teamwork made your squad god like. I just hate when they make teamwork enforced

[bronze thorn]

Same!

[scarlet cloak]

Gold gang

[arctic grove]

I am still waiting for more info about the business model before I buy.

[upbeat sand]

bf4 admins on their way to make a

no shotgun
no tank
no rpg
no planes
no helecopters
no sniper
no smg
no medkit
no defib

puts woman ass becuase edgy MUST PAY 20 DOLLARS PER WEEK TO PLAY ON SERVER

[hidden sand]

If you read my text I specifically said, there's no way to balance it without changing it entirely. I don't think it belongs in Battlefield, in my opinion. Maybe relax before jumping the gun on what I think. I don't have to like the god damn ability lol.

[plush swallow]

Dice did a stupid thing like bringing back the Specialists system which most of us hate

[slow kraken]

People down voting you because you have the game pre ordered is when you know this community is fucked

[scarlet cloak]

Not everybody.

[plush swallow]

Most

[upbeat sand]

i like it

[arctic grove]

Any idea when we will get more info about the monetization system like how the battle passes will work?

[copper rock]

Most of the people critiquing the game have regurgitated the same thing over and over and over again. Not sure if they are trying to sway people, or just dont get the fact few people care

[cloud zodiac]

i agree the wallhacks looks kinda ass they just need to make it into a snapshot or minimap only but we'll see

[tender folio]

maybe, next week or at launch. I want to know as well

[scarlet cloak]

Give me anime skin

[upbeat sand]

no

[hidden sand]

Some of you flat out cannot handle criticism towards this game lol.

[karmic phoenix]

no

[plush swallow]

Pidgeon spotted

[upbeat sand]

war pidgeons 2

[copper rock]

We can, are you finished, or did you have more to say?

[dim blade]

Sure you can, you just downvote every comment that does. Real neat handling

[cloud zodiac]

this chat either hates the game or love it theres no in between

[bronze thorn]

"I specifically said, there's no way to balance it without changing it entirely. "

But how would you know that? Have you seen first hand how it works, outside of any trailer? "I" say again. Dice wouldn't add a gameplay mechanic if they didn't believe they could balance it.

"I don't think it belongs in Battlefield, in my opinion. "

That's absolutely ok! Your opinion is yours.

---

"Dice did a stupid thing like bringing back the Specialists system which most of us hate "

Please speak for yourself. This discord is only a vocal minority.

[copper rock]

Nothing wrong with expressing myself on here. You seem to be doing it, were you going to share more?

[slow kraken]

I guess we will all find out soon enough if 2042 does well or dies as fast as BF5

Just got to wait and see though

[hidden sand]

What are you quoting at the bottom there? I did not say that.

[bronze thorn]

I wouldn't call BF5 dead.

[karmic phoenix]

fun fact: on average less than 10% of the playerbase of Battlefield is on social media

[copper rock]

didn't know bfV died

[bronze thorn]

Why do you think I put the ----- in. I quoted the person below you.

[karmic phoenix]

so yes well made point, we are in fact a vocal minority

[hidden sand]

You were replying to me only so I have absolutely no idea how I was supposed to know that but alright lol.

[slow kraken]

Far from but the game clearly performed below DICE and EA's expectations. So what I was saying is if 2042 maintains a larger player base than BF5 ever has then clearly 2042 has done something right

[copper rock]

That's a fact, or something you pulled out of your ass?

[dim blade]

Halo Infinite > BF2042 > COD Vanguard

[scarlet cloak]

[cloud zodiac]

why even compare games they don't play nothing like each other lol

[copper rock]

Wow vanguard made your list?

[bronze thorn]

I can't imagine there is any hardcore figure of the percentage of the playerbase that uses discord but theres no doubt in my mind it's going to be the minority.

[dim blade]

Yeah, the list being FPS titles releasing in november

[cloud zodiac]

halo infinite/cod/bf cant really compare cause they are so fundamentally different, they all have different playerbases lol

[hidden sand]

But, what I'm saying is, no amount of balancing will make it okay unless its completely changed. If you can see a snapshot of the players, not okay, if you can see their movements, not okay. It would need an entire rework to be fittimg for the game, in my opinion. It doesn't matter if they add a cooldown, or required resupply, or whatver, I do not want it in the game. That's juat how I feel about it. I don't need to play to know that. I saw it in the trailer. @bronze thorn

[copper rock]

So you're not going to buy the game?

[scarlet cloak]

We techincally had wall hacks before, it was called 3d spotting.

[karmic phoenix]

i have stats from copies sold for BFV to how many are on social media

[copper rock]

Can you share them

[dim blade]

Im 96% sure i will buy the game, but the standard edition. Til then i will just play other stuff

[karmic phoenix]

or roughly how many anyway, i found it somewhere and i think its taken off followers/subscribers of social media accounts. its not 100% accurate but its a good idea

[karmic phoenix]

if discord lets me send images sure

[cloud zodiac]

just link it here

[hidden sand]

Holy shit, strange concept I know, but you can criticize something you want to be good/care for!

[slow kraken]

I would play Portal if I was you. I'm going to give AOW a shot as I don't hate on something before trying it but if AOW sucks I'll just play Portal. Seems like your issues can be fixed by just playing Portal

[copper rock]

You cant answer the question?

[austere furnace]

t h i s

[austere furnace]

he's just saying he's criticizing the game because he likes it

[arctic grove]

There’s no way they make SU-57 an attack jet since SU-57 is made for air superiority to counter american F-35

[copper rock]

It was a simple question

[hidden sand]

Because I don't need to. Your question makes zero sense. Why does me criticizing the game mean I must not be buying it?

[copper rock]

K then

[dim blade]

Because you are required by universal law to absolutely like the product you are buying, one mishap and you should not buy it

[hidden sand]

Whoopsies 😭

[copper rock]

Anyway, who else is excited for 2042?!?!?!?!?!

[desert plinth]

you can dislike a part of a game and still like others, disliking 1 or 2 or 3 parts of a game doesn't mean the person won't buy it and enjoy other parts

[dim blade]

crickets

[slow kraken]

Me

[graceful prairie]

Me

[dim blade]

there we go

[copper rock]

Sick, high five

[karmic phoenix]

im looking forward to it

[scarlet cloak]

Very hyped for it

[next onyx]

I'm looking forward to it

Cautious but surely excited.

[copper rock]

Can't wait

[karmic phoenix]

basically yeah

[slow kraken]

As I said if AOW sucks with specialists. Portal is a thing. Seems people don't know Portal is a thing though

[hidden sand]

I'm hoping portal is what we're hoping for

[dim blade]

I enjoyed the beta big enough to warrant a standard edition purchase, im still not fully there yet with some of the specialists tho

[karmic phoenix]

cause the beta gave my laptop a very weird issue

[copper rock]

I'm excited to see the other weather effects tbh

[vestal lichen]

Do any of you have the battlefield 2042 exodus countdown

[karmic phoenix]

and i hope that issue isnt there at launch

[cloud zodiac]

im ready to pull multiple all nighters on release

[scarlet cloak]

Give me hourglass on first load in ty

[copper rock]

[desert plinth]

I'm excited for the game, but not as much as I was before the beta. Can't wait to see what the community will do in Portal!

[next onyx]

Honestly, Orbital is tolerable on B, D and E

[copper rock]

Kind of want to see if they made adjustments to the flag positions on orbital

[next onyx]

On A, C and F it sucks

[cloud zodiac]

orbital was fun but maybe cause i was only in helis

[next onyx]

If C was on the hill, I wouldn't have a problem with that.

[scarlet cloak]

I never played the beta so I wouldn't mind orbital

[next onyx]

awww why not?

[cloud zodiac]

nooooooooooo you missed out on so much

[scarlet cloak]

Was on holiday

[karmic phoenix]

i played the beta with loads of performance issues

[copper rock]

I kind of miss the beta tbh

[scarlet cloak]

I wasn't at home for 2 weeks

[hidden sand]

I'm hoping lighting is improved by release. Looked really rough in this recent trailer and the beta.

[desert plinth]

the beta was alright imo, didn't gave me that true BF feeling, but I'm sure that with all the news they've released, that'll come with launch day

[copper rock]

I hope they allow for UI customization.

They informed us not too long ago that that was disabled in the beta and will be present in the full release

[dim blade]

One thing i am excited for is 128 player breakthrough, that sounds fun

[copper rock]

briefing showed that it will be present on full release

[desert plinth]

oh hell yes, breakthrough is the shit

[dim blade]

Breakthrough is my fav battlefield mode, conquest is boring

[cloud zodiac]

man imma be on breakthrough 24/7 tbh

[hidden sand]

So odd that the full map may not be at early launch. It will be at public release, but damn how are they having trouble with that lol.

[cloud zodiac]

imagine breakthrough on the massive maps 😩

[copper rock]

Minor problem, that is already fixed

[desert plinth]

I like both, depending on the map though

[hidden sand]

Why do so many seem to dislike conquest now ;(

[dim blade]

Conquest is either running around like a headless chicken, fighting in the air or just camping a point, not my style

[desert plinth]

probably more difficult than you might think with everything that has to be shown on that map

[copper rock]

It honestly was less fun since they introduced breakthrough and operations

[hidden sand]

Well they've only been doing it since BF1942 lol.

[cloud zodiac]

conquest is great, but breakthrough is better

concentrated chaos especially good on big maps

[desert plinth]

Conquest is really what you make of it, if you want to rush objectives you can do that, if you want to stay back and snipe you can do that too. If you get in a squad that plays the objective, it can be really good

[hidden sand]

I prefer conquest because the freedom it gives you is a lot better imo, but I get why people enjoy breakthrough more.

[vocal tusk]

IME, there are dozens of ways they could balance it, without removing it from the game (Wallhacks)

- Slow down the spot pulse regularity
- Only spot stationary targets
- Remove full outlines, only show a small marker
- Reduce active time for ability
- Drastically increase recharge
- Make it a mini-map spot only
- Make player using the wallhack become visible (map/audible) at all times
- Greatly increase the time to activate the ability (See Rao's ability for example of timer)
- Any combination of the above```

[real ether]

14 Days

[tame cobalt]

Graphics looked nice in the latest specialist trailer, aside from hourglass, which looked like it was on ultra low for some reason

[cloud zodiac]

playing on ultra in the beta was amazing but it was quite unoptimized

[desert plinth]

wait, only 14 days!! holy crap

[delicate sandal]

when is early access starting

[green breach]

I'm pretty sure the wall hack specialist gonna be heavily nerfed. Otherwise everyone gonna play as her

[copper rock]

Really think so? Those character models looked meh

[cloud zodiac]

shes gonna be so ass vs vehicles though but really good on those meatgrinder maps

[hidden sand]

I said without changing it entirely. Which, for instance, "only shows markers" would be doing.

[dim blade]

Only specialists that i am interested in are the medic, the grapplehook and the wingsuit

[real ether]

Yep! 14 days for ultimate/gold! do /when

[tame cobalt]

The gameplay footage looked nice yeah

[vocal tusk]

So...you want it changed, but not changed?

[green breach]

Hope we can lean and bipods become usable again in the future.

[cloud zodiac]

battlefield specialist gameplay has so many different builds mixed in lmao better to play it for yourself and see

[desert plinth]

yeah just did, I ain't got the gold tho lol, I'll have to wait a bit longer. I have some other games I'll play in the mean time though

[green breach]

Love your profile pic coopr

[hidden sand]

My dude, "it cannot be balanced without changing it entirely." I'm saying it shouldn't have been in the game in the first place.

[scarlet cloak]

I wonder if portal will let you do breakthrough on bf3 bc2 and 1942

[desert plinth]

hehe, ty

[next onyx]

I've got a way to balance it.

Link it to minimap spots.

[lost vector]

The BATTLEFIELD 2042 day 0 patch has been resubmitted for first party certification to include more fixes to the game - The game wasn't denied certification (bounced) but instead the developers wanted to include more fixes to the Day 0 patch.

[next onyx]

This doesn't give her free spots but this gives her another way to see those spots

[copper rock]

Sure

[tame cobalt]

Would be nice if my region actually plays it... they never did in bf1 and bfv

[green breach]

Im pretty sure devs now that specialist is a problem. Could see her deactivated until nerf.

[copper rock]

Now invite a dev to see what they think

[vestal lichen]

You know i've just realized how accurate the reveal trailer portrayed A.I soldiers

[dim blade]

Age of Empires IV unlocks in 4 hours

[vestal lichen]

they're bullet sponges
but they don't work properly

[cloud zodiac]

where u at

[desert plinth]

there are a couple ways to balance it, you can also just have red dots or arrows instead of seeing their entire body

[green breach]

Age of empires 4 self moving artillery. So dumb

[tame cobalt]

South africa. People just play conquest here

[vestal lichen]

actually no this explanation sucks
what I mean is they just stand there and get shot at

[cloud zodiac]

oh rip

[hidden sand]

They might actually do it. They deactivated Palpatine until they could get the patch out in Battlefront 2 when he was unbelievably broken.

[desert plinth]

just like that dog in the beta lol, I'm sure that stuff gets fixed

[scarlet cloak]

Ahhhh... palpatines lightning reach

[cloud zodiac]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/q4arfq/battlefield_ai_getting_out_of_control_is_this/

[green breach]

That's because palpatine had unlimited power.

[dim blade]

I feel like for the most part they took the best of all AoEs and mixed it into one game, it's not perfect but it's way better than 3

[tame cobalt]

but breakthrough will probs get played around launch at least

[scarlet cloak]

[cloud zodiac]

if u think AI is bad think again

lmaooooo

[green breach]

@scarlet cloak I wanted to put that on my gaming rig CPU cooler but I didn't buy the LCD screen one 😭

[tame cobalt]

[arctic grove]

What I like the least about BF2042 is the legacy main theme.

[hidden sand]

I can't figure out why the AI was so bad when, 1
They've been playtesting with bots for years now. Surely they must be good enough if they can be useful for that.
2. Battlefront 2s AI was pretty damn good as well.

[desert plinth]

i could tell by their movement, it was quite slow and felt random, also reaction time of the bots were way slower than one of even a bad player

[hazy vector]

playtesting bots? how

[tame cobalt]

I had an AI literally stand and stare at me without shooting for 4 seconds

[dim blade]

That's because Mickey Mouse personally oversaw the AI development of Battlefront 2

[green breach]

Main theme for 2042 interesting and I get it. But doesn't sound very good.

[hidden sand]

I dunno, ask them not me lol

[arctic grove]

You sure it was not Ludwig Von Drake?

[tame cobalt]

Yeah their reaction time was super bad

[green breach]

Bf4 theme gonna stay king for Battlefield themes.

[desert plinth]

maybe I'm just insanely quick or you're insanely slow lmao, one of those 2

[next onyx]

Their movement was too "still"

if that makes sense for the 2042 ai

They only moved to move not in the middle of combat

[hidden sand]

BF2142 theme is really good

[tame cobalt]

They just look at you for a couple seconds before they start firing

[dim blade]

Maybe Gyro Gearloose?

[desert plinth]

yeah, thats a good way of putting it

[bronze thorn]

This tbh.

[green breach]

What people been playing holding them over till 2042?

[dim blade]

GTA Trilogy

that's why i bought the standard edition XD

[hidden sand]

BF1 and Red Dead Redmeption 1 & 2

[tame cobalt]

played Hitman 2, was pretty good

[hazy vector]

I've been changing between BF4, and "shit i still need to flesh out more stuff for the D&D campaign"

[desert plinth]

I'm picking up a ps3 with some old cod games, gonna take an amazing nostalgia trip

[green breach]

Far cry 6 that I got free with my 5800x

[next onyx]

Bf5, Terraria, Red dead 2, whatever other game i can play

[dim blade]

make sure to keep playing it or ubisoft will send you angry emails if you stay away too long

[cloud zodiac]

escape from tarkov

[next onyx]

Mechwarrior 5 can last you two weeks

[obsidian forge]

is this the official or no

[next onyx]

It's such a fun game

[tame cobalt]

yes