#battlefield-2042
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Assault: Attack - Flank - Destroy
Mackay
Dozer
Sundance
Engineer: Defend - Fortify - Improvise
Boris
Irish
Recon: Observe - Infiltrate - Eliminate
Casper
Rao
Ji-Soo Paik
Support: Supply - Maintain - Revive
Falck
Angel
Ah, so devolving into "Its COD" , when you run out of intelligent points. Gotcha
this system will turn into a one man army system
I disagree
i feel like people are mad that other people dont play how THEY want them to play. if u wanna be a support with ammo and help ur team just do it
you can legit pick the specialist with the most bonkers assault gadgets and run support weapons
Forced team work yes very good. Basically 5 with attrition.
u could one man army in bf4
or vice versa
Ok and why is that a problem
because assault was the go to
I don't mind team work but basically screwing over other players in the name of that is just dumb.
but at least the guns were locked to classes
so you couldnt run medic with aek or m416
i dont see anyone complaining about that so why is it a problem now
Casper with his 6th sense was miles better for me in beta than any assault role. It all comes down to playstyle
Yeah sure, they're there in name only
But how you choose your gadgets is free for all, effectively nulling that
If there were a secondary gadget slot, with restricted gadgets, that would solve this issue
Mackay and Flack just felt clutch
because giving assault rifles like aek to medic is just busted and stupid
We're basically getting more creative freedom to customise our kits vs "classes". I think that's a massive plus.
all this does is create massive balance issues
How so?
assault in bf4 is medic
It doesn't nullify it though
i think medic was bad example lets say support runs aek
If they locked the secondary gadgets to classes, people will just move the goalposts, and complain about some other part of the game
In BF4 you were able to select a wide range of guns in all classes
and how is that broken
Guns for all classes is fine as long as the classes have their gadgets for the purposes of identification.
You can say that about literally anything it doesn't make the point any less valid lol
How is any class running an aek broken exactly?
because support shouldnt excel at close range with an assault rifle given its kit?
bruh did u know supports had shotguns in bf4
They had PDWs in BF4 lol
with an assault rifle
"because it wasn't like that in bf4"
Snipers had shotguns too

Shotguns are made for close range lmao
This is very true.
PDW is better at close range than an assault rifle...
the first lmg they give u in bf4 is essentially a assault rifle and everyone could run carbines
true
Support will always have a closer ranged LMG
also when tf could u not use a lmg in close range
slow
Essentially an AR with drum mags
Support on 5 had the fg42 / bar for that purpose.
slow what? fire rate?
Ripping people a new one and being more accurate than other guns.
medic on bfv is an exception because the kit is just busted with infinite no cooldown heals
AWS in BF4...literally an assault rifle with a 100 round magazine đ
sturmgewehr + medic = bruh
true 
Wouldn't be OP at all
literally the same as 2a
with 2a you dont got assault rifle range
Then use the welgun lol
Have the devs said anything about these issues or concerns? Every post on IG they've had since the beta are flooded with rage. Lmao.
sadly it sucks lmao
Not at range
Welgun isn't an AR
i personally dont like it
Could've fooled me, it has great range for an smg
The Welguns damage range is identical to the mp40 or the suomi.
suomi is superior
Thankfully they don't seem to be listening to the trolls 
It may laser people but it's damage is no different from the other subbies.
the grease gun has a diff damage model from the rest
That's good.
Yeah though in technical terms it had the same ttk
Can't solely be trolls if THAT many people are upset.
i dont think medic should have long range capabilities
They had DMRs in bf4
given the ridiculous self heals in bfv
I hope they add the ability to place the ranger into a passive mode.
but they did before
Having a medic with an AR is fine in my books as long as the other classes are balanced well after it.
What do you mean passive mode? As in they follow you without shooting anyone?
they had long range in bf1 4/3
we saw how well that turned out in bfv
Yeah
The only reason why medic was so pwoerful was because the other classes couldn't heal indefinitely
Wouldn't that generally defeat the purpose of having a ranger in the first place? I don't understand.
and smgs in bfv were just the best guns in the game really
Like, there are times when you dont want a ranger to shoot...aka when there is a tank around
i could easily challenge ppl at ar range with zk or suomi lmao
I can easily challenge people at a range with the fg42 as well
Or even the bar depending on the day.
does bfv have longest ttk in bf?
Long ranging people with the bar feels dirty
It had one of the quickest, Only behind BFH
because ttk in bf4 is quite short to me
Bf4's is pretty similar since the guns there deal 25 damage max.
They should just make an official legacy mode for Portal and promote it a little
But because of bloom and stupid bullshit it severely increases the time.
I didn't like BF4's gunplay much, it felt really random & the bullet velocity was pretty slow
i was surprised by my accuracy yesterday on bf4
im so happy fucking bloom is gone
dropped 80 kills on locker with m4 and aek and i felt like i was cheating lmao
Bloom is still in Lvxs
i was headshot ppl through smoke on C
It's true lol, the spread is unbearable
It's just that it's not that aggressive as 4's.
thats better than nothing i guess
the spread is seriously bad tho in bf4
but as long as you burst everything should be fine
ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
u had to micro burst or tap if u wanted to hit anything mid/long range
True it really promoted DMRs and using semi auto fire modes
learnable spread patterns makes more sense in games like csgo, siege, and valorant
but headshotting in bf4 is abnormally easy
i feel like every bf game is easy tbh they really arent hard games if u put a lil time into them
maybe its my crosshair placement idk
jumpshotting in bf4 is fucking nutty and satisfying
valorant still has minor rng in it
also air momentum in bf4 is great
Jumpshotting yuck
you go so far when u jump around a corner in bf4 and zou zou is really fun
jumping in bfv is meh
indeed its so much fun on operation locker jumping across ppls screens
literal teleportation in bf4 lmao
I hope jumpshotting in 2042 just doesnât work
it does
Well, I hope it gets nerfed into oblivion
i swear on C chokepoint on locker i can jumpshot peek the hallway and instantly jump back in like 0.5s its crazy
its really not that hard to just track them
Not the point. Itâs a stupid tactic
they dont go that far in 2042
its not
Also, aim assist was fucking broken in the beta. So tracking them was a problem on console.
jumpshotting is a high risk high reward move
its been in basically most bfs so like idk what to tell u
Florian said jumpshotting was nerfed for release
And it sucks in every game
people will still complain
since when jumping your character is locked into a predictable trajectory so tracking is easier
but when you do it properly it becomes insanely strong
People will complain regardless and about everything though đ
What is jumpshotting?
no matter how bad the movement gets nerfed the better player most of the time is gonna win
if you complain about jumpshotting u are just bad
Jumping corners and shooting
good point
i miss bf4 jumpshotting bring it back pls
Nope. Itâs just a shitty thing.
how is it a shitty thing
i love when people called bf4 a slow game they def didnt play locker
Ohhh. So that. That shit is funny. Hahaha.
you dont like people not peeking a corner slowly and predictably?
in bf4 the whole movement is buggy asf so yeah u can
not like jumpshotting doesnt come with its risks
Peeking is fine. Jump shooting is ridiculous and not only looks stupid, but creates a meta of rabbits. The bunny hopping in BF3 was trash. I never want that shit back
i cant wait till they release a anime skin (if they ever do) and wear it just to piss off the immersion/realism ppl
so you want people to peek corners by just walking into your aim
you are pathetic honestly
whats happening here
ight fuck it we dropshotting then
people want jumpshotting gone
Alpha doesnât like that we donât like jumpshotting
I'd be the first one to buy em.
im buying that shit asap
I care. If I wanted to fight constantly jumping enemies, Iâd play halo
Ok well its not getting removed
cry if it doesnt get removed
arguing about it isnt gonna change it
I mean, I wonât.
One jump is fine, spamming isn't
the only way to nerf the f out of it and make it useless is for u to lose 100% speed when jumping and that isnt happening
People jumping every single corner is just corny to me.
we arent talking about spamming here
Just aim better 
its just jumping a corner while aiming to get the jump on him
no spam just jumping around a corner
It ainât even about that. I do just fine
seriously you want people to just walk into your aim
then why do you care
admit it
Because it looks stupid
how does it look stupid lmao
who cares
Because I donât want the meta to become âjump and you wonât dieâ
let me guess ur immersion
battlefield has never been realistic
then you arent using a core mechanic of the game thats not my problem them
jumpshotting isnt going anywhere soon
Weâll see
Yeah no.
i mean u will die if the enemy knows ur there and just aims
We saw that
Bruh
Wasnt me
Sure buddy

Running to cover to hide from bullets sounds significantly cooler than jumping in random directions
sadge sniper glint brighter than flashlights in bf hoped they toned it down a bit after the weird beta but welp https://puu.sh/Iks5m/1e21604245.jpg 4x scopes it is
damn dudes a light house lmao
thats what I did in previous games
look the unfortunate reality is that nobody is dumb enough to just walk into your aim around corners, not jumping is handicapping yourself so deal with it loser

Youâre really mad for no reason. Calm down
i agree but the insult wasnt necessary

Exactly bro this aint cod
im not the one who is mad tho
And we all know what cod equals 
I donât like jumpshotting. I think itâs corny. If you donât like it, thatâs too bad.
you are the one complaining about jumpshotting
self report
Shhhhh
I like cod
Lads. If ya canât talk respectfully then donât talk at all.
I think the problem is jumping for the sake of avoiding bullets and rushing your enemies doesn't belong in Battlefield
God forbid I produce a conflicting opinion.
The person who devolves to insults automatically loses
what
God forbid a harmful joke gets said
ok but thats been in bf for ever
Read
Sorry, let me just agree with you. Even if I donât believe it.
yea
Do you guys work at netflix
Which is the problem, it always feels out of place
so running in a straight line is the way to go?
I jump on top of my enemies in battlefield and get a melee kill as if it were assassins creed. 
how does it not belong in the game when its been there since basically the start
Spam jumping is dumb
no one said anything about spam jumping
it isnt spam jumping

Youâre bad if you spam jump 
we are talking about jumpshotting
Its just jumping around corners
Who cares about that this aint cod
like if i get caught with my pants down im going to do anything i can to dodge bullets and try to kill u
Ill pull those pants right up

Corner jumping is pretty easy to combat with accurate aim TBH. Im not overly fond of it, nor to I deliberately use it, but I dont have a terrible issue with it...nor does the game I think

The problem is if it becomes too good. We donât need a warzone style meta.
Very excited to play shanghai 2
look if you cant deal with it, then u are bad its easy enough to counter
Im being serious cause i liked that map
Siege was fun
It wasnt really too good in the beta, unless you used the mackay grapple glitch (Which is fixed in release)
i dont think it was too good in any bf yeah it was useful but it wasnt busted
you literally are locked into a set trajectory when jumping not like you zigzag in the air
You keep using this argument, but the #stats page is right there
Siege year 1/2 was top tier for me
I loved the skyscraper gameplay in 4 and Hardline so it's great to see return
Err, siege of shanghai I mean bsod haha
Seen a few people do that. Glad itâs fixed
Oh, you meant the map lmao
Shanghai is alright. One of the 2 maps I actually like in 4
I like siege of shanghai too...Just wish its levelution event didnt exist lol
The other being Zavod
What's the other?
Cmon bruh dawnbreaker?
locker flood metro pearl are my favs
I liked Zavod but it felt more like a BC2 map
That explains why I like it
I'm still annoyed they never ended up adding the Infiltration of Shanghai map, looked amazing
Zavod was good...its A/E flags were pretty meh though

Heli pilots not doin their job đ
Was that night Shanghai?
alright this may be an annoying question but with battlefield 2042, when i load it up it says that backend servers cant be found. idk if i have an outdated version of the beta or if its shut down completely because i still see videos on it and stuff. anyone know what the problem may be?
Yeah and it had blackout events instead of the skyscraper collapsing
Beta has been offline for weeks
the beta has been over for 2 weeks
beta been over my guy
Dont listen to them keep trying
bruh so many people are still posting about it saying they just played it. alright thanks
old clips or straight up lying
Yeah. I played it in the CTE
that and Golmudâs night variant
I love night maps. I canât wait to try Manifest.
I reckon you'll be able to shoot out lights too, which'll be really sick. In the 2042 beta you could shroud the tunnel between D1 in D2 in pitch darkness which'll be fun to try
Im not sure if manifest is a night map...or if it just like Orbital and it gets darkened by bad weather.
It looks like a night map
All the material is night. First trailer. HZ trailer. The specialists trailers
h
Cool. seem like a cool map either way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRuvkz9xrIQ&ab_channel=TheChefOfMusic, a BF2042 menu/loading screen music concept
Tbh, Imo specialist aren't that bad, yeah they make team work less needed but I mean they're trying something new here
Yeah, not too keen on wallhacks but what can you do?
If its very bad they'll probably tweak it or make it less effective
Yeah
Regardless of what we think of ingame "wall hacks" or "Stacked loadouts."
Maybe we should let the game go live first and see for ourselves before we call something broken / OP.
I can't imagine they'd add this sort of stuff without some sort of balance to go with it.
why does my dualboot take so long to boot
Fastboot disabled due to dualboot?
U guys still fighting
it usually only took a couple seconds to get to the os menu
now all of a sudden it takes like 30 seconds its bizarre
this
im dualbooting windows 10 and 11
what
dual boot makes it so you can choose what you pick on startup
Yeah I didn't know you could do that tbh
its not hard at all
im trying to figure out whats causing my dualboot to take so long to boot up
hmm
Dual bootings pretty useful. I have a UMPC (super tiny laptop) With windows 10 and Linux dual boot on a 256gb SSD. Also added a 400GB SD card partitioned so both OS's can use it. đ¤
I'm sure it's useful I just never heard of it lol
So now how are we feeling about Specialists
They aren't as bad as everyone says tbh
Who are speclisits
The one with the wallhack concerns me though
I think people are crying too much ab the âwallhaxâ and dozer shields
Dont start it pls
I think the wallhack ability is too much but everyone else is fine for me
I just donât think it will matter when youâre being rushed by 64 people
Valid point
Itâs gonna show itâs true colors in HZ and small scale modes
And as for Dozer shield. I mean, bruh⌠donât shoot bullet proof shieldsâŚ
People are overreacting
It will likely be a useless ability in 90% of areas on all maps. Its highly situational, considering that (based on the trailer) its range is between 1-7/8m
I hate specialists more than the next guy but letâs be fair in our judgement
Well we still have the class system, it's just a little different
I think I'm going to main Sundance. They seem to have a fun combination of movement and situational grenades. It looks cool too
I'm probably gonna main Dozer, he seems like a sick tank sort of character
Sundance and irish probably
Is there gonna be anymore type of beta before release
Most likely not
Shii
The only early access again would probs be the gold edition/ultimate preorder thing
EA Play get 10 hours too. Might be a good idea to invest $5 to try it out first before paying full price
what if you have battlefield 2042 preordered on origin but not on steam?
whats Pre-load date?
10th
What do you mean? You'll play it like you would otherwise if you had it on steam
on origin it shows release date and pre-load date whats that?
Pre load means you can download the game before release date
and you can play it?
Just can't play it until the release date
why would anyone want to have it installed?
So you can launch the game as soon as it fully releases
Csuse they lazy
Like it's ever gonna live 
Uniforms look good for AOW
I wish there was a demo version representative of the final game once the game comes out, even if just a timed one.
Eh makes no sense for big companies to do that
10 hours trial for 1 dollar on console, 2.99 on PC
They already had a public beta and they have the 10 hr trial
Canât ask for more from AAA tbh
If you have gamepass on xbox...I think their is an included 10 hour trial, right?
Yes
I'm gonna get EA play pro before the 12th so I get unlimited hours. Worth spending 15$
Bf1 teammates make me worried for how screwed humanity must be.
Hm?

Bf5 even worse
Oof I don't know Karamba that's quite a stretch.
cod has had wallhack ability for years whats the issue
I'd take a team of Fortnite players over the usual bf1 teammate
Anything new in BF = Bad
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doesn't mean its good
and you will have ultimate edition)
Nor bad
The whole community in a nutshell
it all comes down to preference. I personally dislike games that just inject cheats into themselves
Ok donât play ez
A perfect representation of the battlefield community
self proclaimed "veterans" be like

Why should you play Casper or the Hacker when Ji soo exists. That's my concern.
Portal
@median coral ur banner is hot
LITERALLY like people complain so much but I just forget about it during the game it's not even that relevant
Public beta was not representative of the final game and I don't think there is any kind of timed trial for games on Playstation.
The game is perfect in my eyes
A large problem with influencers/YTers, is that they clickbait their videos with things like..."Wallhacks ruin Battlefield???". Placing it like a question, when people seeing the title/thumbnail view it as a statement on how the game is/will be. (Then likely not even watch the video)
Then the same video will barely touch on the actual issue, and say that we should wait til launch to see how it actually works.
Breakthrough boutta be wild
A demo isnât really something thatâs ever happened in the previous games so I donât see why that would change
Something not having precedence does not mean it should not be a thing.
Most of the character designs seem final now though
Since all the new ones have their art on the EA page based off it
Indie games have demos because they need the traffic. AAA games have the influence to not need it
Tbh if this battlefield wasn't called battlefield, less people will cry about it
Really its optional for triple a
Does not mean it is a good thing.
I really disagree
For a FPS multiplayer game I think itâs not really needed
10 hour trial for ea play
You know what to expect just by the genre
Is that available on console?
Really the only reason why it's called battlefield is for that brand.
Xbox yes, ps idk
Specialists arenât even that bad, itâs just a little extra gadgets that come with each
No, I don't. This game seems to be quite different from BFV.
They need to balance Ji soo's main gadget better
I was talking to the group of "veterans" that complain that this game isn't battlefield.
Itâs not massively different, mechanically itâs more simplistic
Meh, I'll just not get it.
Thatâs fair
Fair enough, That's your decision
BFV is good enough.
I agree
Bf5 was fun
Imo it would be more balanced if it was like a small UAV, aka you can see people very close nearby on your map but not through walls
im waiting until post launch when bugs are fixed and i have a better system to play on. either a new pc or a ps5
How do you know if ju soo gadgets is op. No way it's cause of the trailer
I think I'll get BF2042 down the line when it will have an "ultimate edition" or whatever.
It does
I shouldn't expect the next game in the franchise to be too much like 5 because really they need to try something different
I mean, a complete edition deal like BFV has
Oh with all the dlc
Yeah.
I saw the trailer and that red outline told me everything i needed to know.
they wont do that
They did with 2024
BF2042 is trying a new formula so if it does well the next one will likely follow this formula
And you know that how?
Because itâs live service
BFV was too.
most of the stuff is gonna be live service battlepass stuff. theyre not gonna re release that stuff in a complete edition
Oh thatâs right
yk cosmetics and all that
I forgot the battlepass thing
Isn't this how it was with BFV too with chapters basically?
It will already follow this formula Iâm sure
Their blog post said this was an evolution of battlefield
We got a year 2 edition but that's about it
So yeah. I am done arguing here. I gotta study math. Have a nice day!
You must have missed this. https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-5/news/battlefield-v-definitive-edition-reveal
Ok, then there is nothing to discuss.
BFV still a different scenario I feel it undersold
If 2042 sells a lot the need to make year bundles and shit I feel becomes unnecessary but oh well
make it a pulse that happens once ala divison and spots ze people on your map (for your squad) and highlights those in thou view
tbh idk if im a fan of bf having a battlepass
I'd be alright if it lagged behind or allowed you see them when they were actually spotted
its just another battlepass i have to worry about, time limited stuff is stupid
I agree if that battle pass includes only skins, in which they said they will
halo infinite is the only game thats doing it right tbh
hope they do like bfv did and make ze cosmetics and sht available through bundles after ze season ended
If itâs anything like cod battlepass the trash skins will be in the battlepass anyways lol. Everyone knows the bundle skins are always better
Tru
Not surprised the Microsoft game doing well
Yeah, itâs almost like because they have Microsoft pockets of cash to throw at the game so they donât need to worry about the whole âtime limitedâ crap
also i want spider-man for mckey, batman for wingsuit
Spider man please, that suits him
this is a bad argument.
âBattlepass is contentâ
Itâs more like the longer the battlepass can build up the more people have to play to catch up to where they want to be, more playtime requires more game pass
Itâs not supposed to be an argument, itâs a literal statement.
Not everything is an argument, the world isnât a giant ego battle.
I mean POW isnât wrong
Microsoft has resources EA will never have
Theyâre are basically as high on the scale as Apple
That's not even a argument, read it again dumb dumb
it doesnt take money to just let people earn it after the season is over lmao
but if you think it does youre beyond helping
Itâs money lost
Then whatâs the point in buying the battle pass.
It is tbh
If thatâs the case they wouldnât exist.

Itâs why Fortnite has the whole âexclusiveâ items crap in their battle passes, so people buy them
Standard edition buyers donât get the first year of battlepass, so they need to pay season by season
Also negan based
2042-ready pc arriving tomorrow let's gooooooo
people buying older passes as well as the new one could still be really profitable
Microsoft bought Bethesda for more than Disney paid for marvel, they have a bit of pocket change to spend on developing infinite lol
beta ran at 80-90 frames on high on this beast, bout to be 100+ frames at launch lmao
Microsoft is one of the few richest game companies, along side Amazon
Halo 6*
True
its halo infinite not halo 6
But also halo multiplayer is completely free as well lol
Itâs halo 6.
Might as well be halo 6
I prefer battlepasses to lootboxes and fucking gambling with a premium credit
But the trickle down rate of content has always been too slow for any new game that has implemented this system it im huffing hopium to think this game wont suffer that but it will
Itâs literally set after the events of halo wars 2 and halo 5, Microsoft wanted to rebrand the name for it because who the hell is going to call it âhalo 9â
Fortnite does seasons well imo. And apex and warzone are starting to follow that formula
this, just vote with your wallet, bois
Aka huge content drops with each season then with smaller content drops throughout the season
Even the books say itâs the next halo ring, aka halo 6
But your time also pays off since some rich kid canât buy tiers, you have to grind them all
I don't think this is the right channel for halo stuff...
Kinda thought this was common knowledge
what is the general opinion on 2042 here, reddit seems to be super negative, youtube seems to like it
Well most people assumed Microsoft to just say halo 6, but they wanted to give it a âcoolâ name
literally just combine the 2
half of us hate it half of us like it
Itâs half and half here tbh
as divided as the other platforms
Yeah because everyone is just a bunch of crying bitches
I kinda like it so far tbh
Got issues but alright only played a â old build â beta
Waiting till launch to judge
Probably will be a disappointment but people will still buy it
Just how the world works
People on reddit will just soyface over everything
yeah same, i do feel like people have their expectations insanely high because of leaks and all of that
Same with vanguard, some people like it because it looks and plays like MW19 and some hate it because they think itâs a lazy reskin or hated MW19

I'm very cautious with 2042
Im buying vanguard when its on a big sale the occult zombies looks decent even tho its not a round based map just glorified outbreak

The beta we got was really rough, Even for a beta.
20-30 max iâll pay for that the mp did not interest me
I enjoyed the beta, i'll deffinately buy the game at launch, i saw they changed the map too
I think it has good foundations, but a lot of issues
I'm still excited but again, Cautious.
MP and zombies look fun imo. The beta wasnât buggy for me and I had fun with it, BF was buggy but still fun. Likely gonna get both next month
yeah, that's what I am thinking too, the maps look amazing but specialists have me being meh
it'll probably turn out fine though
I never agreed more with something I hate
not everyone has the money to do that kind of stuff sadly, making 5 bucks an hour doesn't help
The beta on my old dying ps4 was not as bad as most peoples exp but im torn cos i really dont want to play this game on ps4 i kinda want to wait till i can literally find a ps5 for sale
Specialists are fine imo just as long as none of their gadgets make them way better than other other specialists
Cough cough, ji-soo
balancing is something i am kinda curious to how they will do
i honestly think the ps6 will come out before ps5s are actually available
Sheâll likely be balanced soon after launch
i don't think the enemy highlighting thing will be that OP
Situational
get a pc then 
yeah
But itâs too good in the situations
The consoles like came out last year? Lost most interest in them when i see them casually on amazon or in store iâll buy
Not gonna hawk fucking stock alerts or buy from a scalper fuck that
not everyone has 2500$ to spend on a pc
not everyone needs a very high end pc xd
you would usually get a pretty good pc for half of that
I was lucky enough to get my series X at launch because it was at a smaller store nearby that didnât allow you to pay for it online
Friends dont have pc so why would i make one?
Also pc gamers are some of the most toxic communityâs in my experience
It was a in store only deal
pcs are still more expensive than consoles
Who said all of cost 2500$
And was one per costumer
I can get one for free from my neighborhood
god ok i fucking get it just shut the hell up
Hope they add BFV Wake Island to Portal and also create a new one for 2042.
I mean ye if all your friends are console thats fine, But saying pc is toxic is pulling at straws tbh when it comes down to certain community's
it was just a general price prediction for a good pc
$4000 actually :^)
ÂŁ450 console can play all the games? Ok dont care gonna buy whatever my friendâs buy so we can play together simple
you yelling at him to buy a pc is proving his point dude
A pc isnt just meant for gaming anyway so the extra price is worth it
No shit we don't have to pay for a sub to play the games we buy online, And also can upgrade certain parts of our pc, And its not only for gaming, On top of that key websites for very cheap games
it can play them, but not always well 
How am I yelling at him exactly xd
No its not
i have a pc, i know the perks dude
Also the hardware is replacable
Pc elitists in this chat alone have been super toxic really turns someone off
Not yall rn but earlier
and pc may not always play them well, but alteast you can swap out parts till it does run stuf well đ
console is just cheaper and its a fact
Talking about pc/console prices makes me wish for a nuclear winter
And?
I literally said this like a couple seconds ago "I mean ye if all your friends are console thats fine" xd
shibe san what do u think will there be final fantasy 16 at playstation state of play
Isnt that obvious already, but consoles are just limited to gaming
I think we probably shouldnât judge an entire group of people playing games on a medium. Gaming communities in general are just as toxic no matter where you play.
Lol
I would only buy console for exclusives
it was confirmed to be there i think, i might be wrong
well at that point you have no options to either refund ze game or wait till the devs get it to a state it runs it well. with pc you can upgrade parts till it runs well đ
Series X has been able to run every single game really well, if you can find one itâs worth the $500 imo
wowwwwww i hope bro its there đ
a couple of console players where mean to me = all console players are toxic, The logic in that xd
You'd be surprised but most younger people will never use a PC outside of school. Most will never own one.
Series X Is very good
i mean nowadays phones can do everything a pc can
so does google chrome really justify the extra 1k for a pc
dw console exclusives come to pc eventually we're getting god of war now
So spend MORE money?
I use my pc for school alot and gaming and coding and other stuff
also uncharted games
Iâm probably gonna upgrade my phone before I get a PC, Xbox does what I need it to for gaming and my phone is starting to get kinda old
really? fuck yes to more FPS
For the first time all of the options are really good.
Thats why i got no use for a console
Playing a game to fit your expectations requires more money. If you can compromise and settle with the performance given then no money is required
i'm so excited
Natural law of exchange is never âI want better quality for freeâ
The higher the quality, the higher the sacrifice
Or people can just accept what people buy, itâs their choice not yours, cross play is becoming more and more common, let people game, not hate one another
I bought a laptop for about 1.2k and it can run any game i play or want to play
Last gen is only starting to run slow due to new games being made primarily for newer hardware
basic price to pay
This
Yeah you get what you pay for kinda deal
its too difficult for some people
I have PC. But i can tell how expensive a console can be, Xbox X 560 ish dollar (around there) PC screen 250 dollar, astro equlizer 200 dollar, headseat 200 dollar. Plus 12 dollar gamepass each month.
It's around same price as a PC if u are a "Gamer" like kids want them to be called as.
Yes i have work so not everyone goes deeply into things that boost your experience. U can be cheaper and just get a Xbox and play on regular tv. :)
But this setup is likely what a decent PC cost.
The biggest issue with last gen games, after the Pro and X came out to give FPSes a boost, has been the load times.
Tldr
I got no hate against console gamers but they always go to the argument that "console is cheaper than pc"
Idk I just bought a console and use the controller it came with
No headset or astro whatever that is
Astro 
Sounds like you want big quality accessories and yes that costs money
As i said it depends on person and the experience u want but u can go high with console
Yeah but itâs expected for devs to make games aimed towards the newest hardware due to future proofing, sometimes last gen has worse graphics or FPS due to that but thatâs expected with improving technology
But for the average console player they get by just by buying the console
I had to wait until i was 18 to get a good pc
So basically âIâm right youâre wrong â mindset
pc console all are good.
Clearly will always be cheaper as when you build a pc you buy all the parts at there msrp if you can xd, But consoles seem to sell at a loss and just make all there money back from subscriptions to play online and taking a cut of everything you buy on there console
Yeah and either way money will be spent
Tho I have to give it to console in this one
To be able to play at 4K console is a bargain
It's just matter of choice pc or console, if you wanna do more than gaming pc is better..and if u just want gaming console
Both sud not be compared
^
Let me know when you know people running 4K on a PC with new games at 30-60 with the cost of a console
But with gamepass i only bought 2 games since the launch which is good economic way
Probably played 40 games
Iâm playing in 8k though?
I run 4K currently on my pc and let me tell you, it wasnât the price of a console lol
@odd ledge that way piracy is option on pc , all games r free.
Oh true
My eye can see past 90k
listen buddy, you spend that when a new game stops running well. so your first rig will run the current gen stuff fine. and will do so for the next 4 - 8 years. by the time it shows its age you replace it. with a console, you play on the same rig for 4 - 8 age, watch the games on it go from high to low settings and you spend 60 dollars each year to play online And theny ou have to buy a new console, rebuy the games you liked if they're not crossconsole compatible, lose the ones you loved and so on đ
There r pros on both sides
What are you even smoking lol
Can you play at 240hz though
can you?
Pc is not portable
180 hz new standard
Thatâs the most random dribble Iâve ever seen in this chat
Console u can just sit and play
Nah, 144hz is good enough
way no
Microsoft killed off generations for their consoles, later on in like 4 years a new âpremiumâ series console will be released
Do you think with a pc you do a backflip before playing?
@arctic grove steamdeck is not a pc..
it doesnt exist yet
Literally a new gpu every fucking year??? How is that a comparison lmao
lolmao it is a pc.
I mean at the end of the day pcs are the premium for gaming if you have a stable income
No. I mean you wonât be stuck with a slow console. Microsoft will make new ones as the series X starts to run games badly
tbh, just play tf you want, no one cares
literally no one has one
it's just a linux pc but with STEAM OS (which is based on linux). if you want, you deinstall it and install a windows os
Console are cool and easy to use...you just sit and play , user friendly. PC u gotta install updates,update drivers,install games, anti virus so..its not made only for gaming
Exactly
The console will be supported for as long as games can run on it
you cant say "this thing that isnt out yet is amazing" it just doesnt work like that
eh pc feels better because of mnk
Consoles and pc both are great
get a cronus like a lot of console players and plug one in xd
U sud buy both...console and PC and enjoy..if u love gaming
True, but doesnt take as much as you think + you are not forced to upgrade unlike console software updates
Lets do some math.
XSS - 289 EUR
Comparable PC
CPU - 240
GPU - Fuck knows (200+?)
RAM - 16gbs 60 EUR
Power supply - 60 EUR
512 gbSSD - 50 EUR
Case - 40 EUR
Mouse and keyboard - 70 EUR (For decent ish parts)
Total - 720 EUR
Thats not really a comparible price, is it?
reminds me to say don't upgrade to win 11 its not good xd
That hasnât been an issue since launch Xbox one lmao
GPU nowadays at that price, never
It was fixed after the black screen of death issue
You're forgetting a monitor & a good headset/audio setup.
remember the days of xbox 360 red ring of death
On paper the XSX has a 13% advantage in the GPU space (which is the smallest the gap has ever been, and its not quite so black and white in practice).
The CPUs are virtually identical (especially when games use SMT).
The RAM situation is a bit different, the XSX uses a split pool with two different speeds, one faster and one slower than the PS5's unified pool. It's unclear what this will entail for third party games.
The biggest difference between the two is IO bandwidth. The XSX maxes out at 2.4GB/s raw and typically averages 5.0GB/s compressed while the PS5 has a 5.5GB/s raw speed and the baseline for compressed IO is 9GB/s but theoretically can get up to 20GB/s.
For third party games all of this won't amount to much unless devs really go all in on optimization. The way it typically works now is that games on XSX run at a higher native resolution than the PS5, but at a more unstable framerate and typically load a few seconds (single digits here) slower than the PS5.
So honest to god, unless something like the borked specs of the XSS messes with games for the XSX going forward both the XSX and PS5 are equally good machines.
that was like 11 years ago
Im choosing to believe that a buyer will use an existing TV here (For both)
Playing Battlefield 2042 portal here đ đ¤
This chat đ
I mean.. I've got a 65" TV.
Only issue like that series X has had is Cold War wasnât made for Xbox series X at first so it literally bricked some consoles at launch due to being so badly optimized for next gen
this game is still alive?
After playing on + 100hz, 60hz will be unwatchable
Hehe
My TV is made for graphics so I just play on 4K on all games
swapping to your pistol after a shot is some nice strat. cpt price would be proud
Get out!

Gold and platinum PSU's are the most energy efficient aren't they
I went with a 1080p 144hz monitor to play my PS5 on. 120fps support for games that support it and running at only 1080p leads to a more stable experience
I think it's 120hz
Remember switching to your secondary is always faster than reloading!
I havenât had many issues with 4K 60 on SSX, likely because one X could run it at 30 FPS and series x is way more powerful than that
Water cooling sounds like a nightmare
I miss Bad Company 2
yeah use milk instead
Jesus christ
I always go for air tbh not worth it imo
When you're good at the game but get called cheater means they're bad and salty xD
Iirc every native (not BC) 120fps game on both XSX and PS5 have framedrops when running at 4K according to Digital Foundry
Yeah i did some research when i wanted to see what a 5800x would do for me
I then found out i needed a decent fan for it
and then scrounged up what i could find
Then i went back to 5600x but kept the fan
I do want to build a PC.. do I know how? No. Do I have the parts? No. Do I have the money? Also... no.
rip xd, First build is always the worst but honestly fun Imo anyway
Yeah sure drop it
PC gamers when their water cooler cracks and destroys all their PC components
Please say I get to have the Ghillie suit of Bad Company 2 in Portal
Getting the monitor was extremely easy for me
what?
Don't forget Titanium đ
that like, never happens
It was a joke
I wanted a "decent" monitor but i didn't know what i want
Then a guy recommended this monitor that i'm using right now and it's served me well since.
You are WAY overspending on the motherboard
Gotta be a true PC gamer and have your parts in an aquarium filled with mineral oil
ik but it just looked like you're making things up just to hate or something idk
honestly what I thought xd
wasn't paying much attention
im still on z370
And if you dont care about PCIE 4.0 (Which noone should on current CPUs/GPUs) then you shouldnt even bother with X570. Just get a B450 board if all you need is a gaming/editing/streaming system
pcie gen 4 is fucking useless
I've heard that the next CPU's require completely new motherboards
i got a 970 evo and its fantastic
Get an MSI B450 Tomahawk or an MSI B450 Gaming plus max
Oh noâŚ.I got a Z590
Donât make fun of me BSOD
get asus mobos they are great
why not go 2 x 16 gb instead of 4 x 8
Iâll bonk u
Bonk
Wich monitor
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MSI G27 something something
Imagine spending $5000 on a gpu :^)
It's the one of the line that does 2560 by 1440
imagine spending 1.4k on a 500$ card
I have many z590 and X570 boards also. As well as loads of gen4 ssds...the difference from gen3 is tiny in regular tasks
Imagine having 5k to spend
Why do that when you can spend 1880 on a gpu
couldnt be me getting a 30 series gpu
Imagine having 1800 to spend
Good point
Would be nice
Sometimes I feel like a Bird, I just wanna fly away.
bought my 3080 for 1049 EUR after selling my 3070 for 950
got my 3080 for ÂŁ720 
My 3090 a friend bought for me, I sold my current pc for 1200 and used what I had saved and that to buy the rest of the build
chip shortage isnt much politics tho
I'm waiting for my 3080 to come in so i can just shove it in the drawer. Cause then that's the most annoying part secured.
Skill issue
a shame i already have plans laid out to break in
Haha
yer getting a 3080? hold on, applying for a job at aussie mail service to steal it
your 3080 is mine
Why do that when you can get a gym membership for half the price and get a jacked body
I do go to the gym!
tell me shipping number i will divert the order
absolute sigma right here lads
Why do that when you can work out at home and save the money
wait a gym membership is 700$
dam bro
that's exactly what i do, and its been better ever since i started working out at home for some strange reason
15 dollars a week
You can do all the same workouts without the machines
Because my Alice pack broke and defence refuses to buy me a new one so I have to buy a new back brace that costs 800 aud
Way doesnât need to go to the gym. Heâs from Australia. Just getting to a bus station requires the highest level of survival training and fitness
Sitting on the toilet does to
So POW also does not need a gym
hahaha
He is a walking power house
I work with fully automatics if that helps
arent we hitting the physical limits of silicon
Pow you're in NT right?
performance jumps gonna stagnate
Yes
and unfortunately china has a big foothold on the tech industry with its oppressive regime
Let's not get political please.
but i wont go any deeper
Hey tib i reckon you should upgrade your drive
But then again you plan on sticking Hard drives into it don't you?
Yes & no
I'd suggest upgrading it to 1 tera of the same drive to be honest
Yeah fair enough
Noticed we sorta had the same drives as well
Well, Brand
Thingie
samsung ssd or go home
3 FUCKING GRAND
What is Killswitch broadcasting
oi dead chat
are these aussie kangaroo coins
Dead man
Zap
rev 
or united freedom dollars

Work
Ohhhhhhh


More dangerous than I thought. Not just an Aussie, but an Aussie soldier
The highest of the food chain
Turn off slow mo pls
What about the PSU? Isn't that pretty decent enough?
3 graaacnd you could buy a car with that
Ohhhh fair
Your gpu is crazy
Yeah i'm not gonna expand on this build, this is something that i have skimmed out in the period of a few months
you can get some decent ones for less than 3
ive seen crxs for like 2.5k
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old corollas are also less than 2k
When can i play tje game
when it comes out
I miss the reliable car life. I have a GTI as a daily right now and an Evo 8 as a race car
All of these âJDMâ cars are. Iâm in the process of importing a Toyota chaser right now and I had to pay an arm and a leg for a car thag was 10k 2 years ago
Skyline r34
Overrated Nissan was 300 horsepower?
r34 is the most overhyped car behind teslas
Hype still lives
Iâve built the evo to the point thatâs itâs reliable. Just dynoed at 1100awhp
That would be so fun to shoot Iâm jealous
Itâs not fun pack marching with 40kgs in a backpack across 15km
i need my battlefield 2042 !
25 days
nope 19 XD
Skyline will forever be that top car to drive
Ayyyy They perfectly explained specialists
where?
not 25 lol XD
i forgot the supra existed nvm
Announcements
says who? you that hasnt driven one?
i want to
25 for standard edition XD lol Lmao XD
as someone who has driven plenty of r32's they are just so so. The top car to drive will always be some kind of 911
^
good luck even finding one for sale. and when you do itll cost you a lot of money
Everyone got a Porsche lol
Guys check out this funny video
https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
Be selling body parts for r34
first of all, no everyone doesnt have a porsche, second what does people owning a car have to do with how it drives
i wish i had a porsche lol
As great toretto says its not about the car but the driver đ
Lol me to
'
okay but a fat nissan with 300hp will get its shit pushed in by a 911
ok
Depending on the driver đ¤
thats tough you tried to embed fail me but embed failed
this is funny
I heard 2042 will have a 20mm,does that mean I won't have to get cold war (I heard it's shit)
You mean a KA52?
Because I doubt you get a handheld 20mm.
Wasn't it the ntw 20
still greatest car
Yall still talking bout PCs..? Looks like it stopped. =[
talking about cars now i think
slow
What shibe said
send it anyways
cant wait to get a 30 series card when the 60 series cards come out
I have a PC hobby and a car hobby. I guess I just thought PCs werenât expensive enough
yeah
PC isn't expensive
cars is like a PC finding good parts to run it better đ¤
Depends on the person
wrong
I just want to get a second hand 5800x and 6800xt
Unless I wanna launch nasa satelite with pc it isn't expensive
Gaming pc is expensive , normal pc is cheaper than phone
Yes it is. PC lots of money I don't have.
That's not a bad pc to be honest
You have the ram in there twice idk if thatâs intentional but if you are just gaming 32 GB of ram is overkill
cpu might be a bit overkill for the 3060 ti but it gives room to upgrade
It is intentional.
32gb ram mo betta
u can get 1050ti
Lol
specialist bad
ok im done have a nice day
Also with Black Friday coming up Iâd trade out that hard drive for a regular larger sata SSD
32 gigs of ram pretty good
Super computer (quantum) is expensive lol nasa has one i think
And a 3060ti being a higher quality 1080ti honest is pretty good too.
Oooo that might be an idea.
You can skim your build down in technlogy too
Heâs got a budget in mind. gen 4 NVME is expensive and isnât faster for gaming than a sata drive
32 gigs is more than you need if you only do gaming. If you do additional tasks like rendering, then 32-64 gigs is recommended
Yeah. My budget without the GPU is like 1200
Ideally, it would be $1500 all in
HDD are prone to fail and honestly they are slow. Sata SSD are dropping in price a fair bit and the storage will be much much safer and faster
maybe go for a ryzen 5 instead? thatd give you some room to make other parts better
Well, the SSD is simply for OS and some games with high load times.
HDDs are pretty much obsolete in current age, unless it's purely for storage.
The HHD is for other bullshit games.
Still a snappier system is always better so if you can find a deal on a sata SSD Iâd go for it. Also I havenât looked into ryzen prices that much but a ryzen 5 5600x and a 3700x should be performing similarly but the 5600x will support pcie gen 4 if you want to upgrade down the line
Iâve got 4tb of NVME pcie 4 storage and then 6tb of SATA SSD storage. Idk how Iâm gonna use it allâŚ.
Yeah.
I think the rig I sent is capable of streaming & gaming, so I should be good.
I'm not sure of the price difference between the 5600/3700. Should probably look.

whether you 5600x or 3700x you should be good. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X/4043vs4084
I dont like waiting for anything. Ive got 750mb/s download and 500mb/s upload interent too
6*
we just got that fiber in town that speed is 60 dollars a month too
Got shit lines POW and we can't improve it further than that 
Id love to live the 100 200 mbs dream
even the newer coaxial connections can support like 500 now
50 though does the job
Australian moment
Basically
I think the extra 2 cores and extra threads on the 3700 would be better for streaming, for all the shit I'd be running.
yeah i get like 700 on good days, usually around 500-600
I got 1gb fiber download/upload
Love me some AT&T fiber.
yep, your build seems really good. What GPU will you be going with. If you will be streaming i highly recommend the 30 series cards because of the encoder
I'm thinking a 3060 or a 3070
40 up 
Or whatever 30 series is available.. besides the 3090
Yeah lol, a 3060 / ti will be enough
id also stray away from the 3080ti as its not worth the price over the 3080. But yea 3060 through 3080 you cant really go wrong any of them
The 2080ti is a pretty good card
about the same performance
I won't spend $800 on a GPU. That's half of my mortgage.
well yea bro its the modern world something newer and cheaper thats as good or better than the old stuff will always come out
whats your current gpu?
oh
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Yeah. I console game. Lol
Can we see the obsidian stuff thats contains the ultimate edition?
whats wrong with you
The midnight content?
all the content
telling this dude to get rid of his child and to rent out his house for a gpu
Yeah we can see the editions
Yikes


can you stop turning on the g slow mo it's so annoying
