battlefield-2042

[zealous ivy]

The tacticool trend needs to go away lol

[dusky blade]

Certainly not because “the engine sucked”

“The zombies maps would be good if they were on the BO3 engine, even though it’s the same engine”

[dark sandal]

yet here you contradict yourself LMFAOOOO

[tribal wyvern]

Literally reloads now belong to mw 2019, fuckign dick

[slim bough]

Yep

[stone epoch]

The tacticool trend has been around looooooong before mw2019 lol

[frozen root]

Read the article please.

[dark sandal]

mw19 is the one that made it mainstream

[slim bough]

Na it can stay

[tribal wyvern]

I just posted the srticle he sent me dude, he sent me this srticle in dms

Discord laggingggggggg

[tame cobalt]

Only cod can have good reload animations, bf reloads should look bad

[scarlet cloak]

What did I come into

[dark sandal]

so are you gonna deny the article because of shilling for dice or sth?

[slim bough]

Only thing good about BO4 was a meh to decent zombies

[dusky blade]

War

[tribal wyvern]

And yrt people call any tactical stuff a mw 2019 copy

[scarlet cloak]

[zealous ivy]

Bruh every game is trying to copy the same reload style even far cry 6 is doing it lol

[tribal wyvern]

Im denying it cuz there is nothing in 2042 that belongs to mw 2019, at most inspired

[mystic peak]

yea sadly

[frozen root]

@tribal wyvern And please don't defend these stupid studios and publishers. They only want what's in your wallet and they don't care about you.

[scenic tartan]

it was a good idea so other games cant do it or they're just a copy

[foggy crest]

reloading animations in Ghost was also cool ngl

[scarlet cloak]

They're not copying mw19 just set the bar for reload animation quality

[tribal wyvern]

Stfu

[dusky blade]

Truth hurts

[dark sandal]

yet the article makes it clear that dice/management has been EXPLICITLY trying to copy mw19

[slim bough]

Why does it matter y’all still gonna play the fuckin game. Who cares💀 this is pointless arguing on who has pioneer rights

[tribal wyvern]

Inspired=/= copied

[scenic tartan]

people who play videogames and pretend like they hate videogames are really just the worst

[stone epoch]

I’d say Black Hawk Down was when tacticool became the thing lmao

[slim bough]

It’s true tho

[tribal wyvern]

Get it straight

[scenic tartan]

IM A TOUGH GUY WHO KNOWS THESE PUBLISHERS HATE ME BUT I STILL BUY THEIR STUFF

[frozen root]

He's a BF fanboy. What do you expect from him LMAO 😂

[fleet ibex]

Lmao 🤣 🤣

[zealous ivy]

Im not talking about the quality im talking about the same type of animation

[mystic peak]

CUZ IM BORED AND NOTHING TO PLAY BUT BF

[scenic tartan]

"Im smartar than U ur a sheep not me

[tribal wyvern]

True fornEA, not DICE, but anyeay that's a bullshit comeback

[dark sandal]

look im not a cod or bf fanboy i enjoy both and hold them dear but holy shit man calm your shill mentality

[slim bough]

Bro prolly plays BF 1942

[dusky blade]

Day 17: the #battlefield-2042 war is ongoing, there is no end in sight

[hidden sand]

I think its hilarious that people seem to thing MW2019s animations are the best. I'd say they're the best for It's style. Battlefield used an entirely different style of reloading animations and they looked fucking amazing within that style. BF doesn't need to use MW2019s reload style to immediately be good.

I think it's fine either way but I prefer BF1s animation style the most. I think MW2019s style works for that game in particular.

[tribal wyvern]

Basically what shaw tryna say

[scenic tartan]

SHAE lmao

[dark sandal]

bf4 animations take me back

[tribal wyvern]

Man this fucking phone spelling

[scenic tartan]

Battlefield has always had better animations tho

[zealous ivy]

Exactly

[scenic tartan]

mw2019 was better than most Cod games in animations but BF always is better

[dark sandal]

bf1 and bfv animations are really damn good without being tacticool

[slim bough]

EA and DICE are basically in the same boat with all the other game devs. They want money before pleasing u

[dusky blade]

BF1’s animations looked slippery, as If the soldiers were panicking, looked awesome

[scenic tartan]

The detail in those self loading rifles and crazy BF1 pistols was soo good

[zealous ivy]

Look at the m5a3 reload and tell me thats not something they got from mw2019

[dark sandal]

kolibri was meta in bf1

[tribal wyvern]

Doesn't change the fact it's the usual bullshit a hater brings up when they're losing an argument

[dark sandal]

except thats how game development works

[zealous ivy]

Every game is trying to do the same animations instead of doing their own thing

[stone epoch]

Y’all be acting like MW invented reloading lmao

[slim bough]

It’s not. M5A3 is the MCX irl and the M13 from MW19 was a spin on it aswel

[hidden sand]

I see no reason to compare CODs and BFs animation styles. They're two different things.

[slim bough]

It’s still true tho…

[dusky blade]

MW19 invented video games

[thorn vine]

a m o g u s

[fleet ibex]

Battlefield has more Details on every aspect than cod, its a fact. Gameplay preferences is another topic thst depends on u

[tribal wyvern]

There is nothing in 2042 that's a copy, at MOST, they got inspired, but no wsy, no plagiarized shit here

[dark sandal]

everyone in the industry saw how successful mw was with its reload style and tacticool animations so naturally they are trying to emulate that success

[zealous ivy]

Im talking about the reloads not the guns

[frozen root]

Exactly. Its business first at the end of the day.

[tribal wyvern]

Cuz peope gotta find somethinf to hate 2042 for and priase cod for

[slim bough]

Reloads are dif

[zealous ivy]

The ak reload is the same story

[proven igloo]

Man, it feels good to land a lunge mine kill.

[tribal wyvern]

2042's reloads aren't even mw 2019 like either

[hidden sand]

The lunge mine is so much fun lol

[slim bough]

WHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT RELOADING ANIMATIONS
y’all fight over the smallest shit

[tribal wyvern]

They seem like simple old bf reloads to me, mw 2019's were much more complicated

[stone epoch]

M13 is not the m5a3 btw, the MCX Spear isn’t the same as the MCX virtus

[proven igloo]

I hope we get a good variety of gadgets in 2042.

[tribal wyvern]

Right?!

[humble aspen]

They need to be satisfying

[next onyx]

https://youtu.be/9WasgRxx6r4

[frozen root]

Rather than striving to iterate on the beloved BF formula, management instead wanted to replicate Call of Duty’s more recent success.

“Management loved some of Modern Warfare 2019’s aspects that much, that the studio was supposedly encouraged to create something similar.”

One specific feature developers were made to copy over was Modern Warfare’s Operators, according to the anonymous employee at DICE.

[tribal wyvern]

Discord lagging breh

[humble aspen]

YES

[next onyx]

Would have been cool to see Hyper x working on 2042

[tribal wyvern]

That's total absolute bullshit, made up for clout

[slim bough]

I said both the M5A3 and the M13 was a spin of the MCX that’s y they look somewhat similar

[frozen root]

shut up fanboy. learn to admit the facts

[tribal wyvern]

The usual "anonymous dev" excuse for a "source"

[zealous ivy]

https://youtu.be/j272EmzIq-0

[dusky blade]

Well this is a conversation ender

[scenic tartan]

reloading the M5 launcher had a great sound

[frozen root]

Its done and dusted

[zealous ivy]

Look at that shit

[halcyon lake]

Aren't you the same guy that believed in apparent internal rumours at dice when it came to delaying the beta lemon

[zealous ivy]

The same style of animations

[slim bough]

[tribal wyvern]

The article literally says whst they copied wss the operators, yet mw's operators have no abilities and are purely cosmetic, while 2042's are a core gameplay mechanic

[dusky blade]

Now I actually hope the game doesn’t succeed so management is left thinking “oh, that didn’t work”

[zealous ivy]

If the game doesn't succeed dice is done lol

[slim bough]

Na

[zealous ivy]

I hope it does well

[hidden sand]

I'm surprised they didn't get him for it. Reloads would look a lot better than they do now, that's for sure lol.

[scenic tartan]

you want to see some low effort animations look at cold war DLC reloads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfLwJ_h8aY8

[dusky blade]

Dice won’t be let go, they’re too good for EA to ditch

[next onyx]

I like his sound design

[frozen root]

they are a disgrace

[scenic tartan]

uhh lets shake the screen a bunch and make your jerk around

[next onyx]

It sounds more clickity clackity

[tribal wyvern]

Hyper works for cod, he made mw 2019 anims

[zealous ivy]

Its ea they dont care lol

[lyric raven]

The game will succeed billy 👍

[dark sandal]

look assuming that article is true bf2042 is truly facing an identity crisis trying to emulate mw19s success by copying mechanics from it while posing to be bf

[hidden sand]

People really underestimate just how badly their last two games did. EA very well could axe them, It's not out of the realm of possibility.

[dark sandal]

it makes sense why its the least bf feeling bf yet

[zealous ivy]

Insurgency sandstorm hast the best animations

[tribal wyvern]

The srticle is fake, literally saying whst they "copied" was the operators when 2042 has specialists thata ffect the gameplay and mw had purely cosmetc ones

[stone epoch]

EA has a graveyard full of studios, if it’s not BioWare, for some reason, it can be shut down

[tribal wyvern]

Just another article baiting to fuel hate for the game for clicks

[dark sandal]

get outta here

[scenic tartan]

can you believe people still play warzone

[frozen root]

Nope. Escape from Tarkov and MW19 are the weapon animations and gunplay kings.

[zealous ivy]

Bioware is done too if there next game flops

[tame cobalt]

Which last 2 games are you referring to

[trim surge]

laughs in rose skin

[next onyx]

Like i just said Lemon, You can't say weather or not what is fake considering you're the same guy that believed that there were internal delays for the 2042 beta.

[tribal wyvern]

Bro it's fucking true, mw's operators are nothing like 2042's specialists

[scenic tartan]

Battlefield 1 sold about a billion copies approximately btw

[zealous ivy]

Agree on tarkov but sandstorm has the best imo

[zealous ivy]

Bf5 and bf2

[tribal wyvern]

How is purely cosmetic operators the same as gameplay changing specialists?

[hidden sand]

Battlefront 2 and BFV

[tame cobalt]

it's not

[tribal wyvern]

That's why that article is bullshit, it accuses 2042 of copying yet what it claims to be what they copied is so far from it

[dusky blade]

Some days I wish management didn’t operate like this, I knew DICE wouldn’t reinvent the wheel of their own accord

[zealous ivy]

Bf5 flopped sales wise and bf2 was a complete pr disaster

[scenic tartan]

but for real Battlefield 1 sold like 20+ million copies

[frozen root]

DICE employee said anonymously that they copied MW19. What else proof do you want?

[next onyx]

They were both PR disasters Dana

[tribal wyvern]

Exavtly

[tribal wyvern]

Dude anyone could fucking claim an anonymous dice dev said something

[trim surge]

@tribal wyvern the problem ain't copying cod the problem is bf is copying game mechanics from many other games that bf itself starts to lose it's identity as a bf game

[zealous ivy]

Unfortunately thats true lol

[tribal wyvern]

ANYONE

[scenic tartan]

but BFV probably was more like 9 million

[dusky blade]

BFV was so stupid. That developer who doubled down calling the community stupid, telling us to not buy the game, etc

[next onyx]

Bf5 sold a million less than projections

[tribal wyvern]

I couls run up and say some bs then say "anonymous dev told me"

[astral radish]

@dusky blade dont be so sensitive

[next onyx]

Yet ironically it's the most alive game since bf1 here.

[zealous ivy]

Bf5 sold 7 million iirc

[frozen root]

You don't even need two eyes to notice how similar they feel to each other.

[zealous ivy]

Bf5 is still the best bf since bf3 tho

[scenic tartan]

@zealous ivy that was just near launch numbers

[hidden sand]

Well that's how it always is for the latest game

[trim surge]

ea got greedy from hero shooters so they wanted to implement it in bf that's it

[scenic tartan]

its hard to tell how many sold in the years after

[tribal wyvern]

I played mw 2019 since launch, and 2042 felt nothing like it, stop telling people wh odisagree with you theh don't got eyes

[dusky blade]

Oh I’m not offended, it’s just a bad way to treat the people buying your product

Saying “don’t buy the game.”

[trim surge]

ea said that?

[tribal wyvern]

He wasn't wrong, but it certainly was a very bad thing to say

[dusky blade]

A lead developer did, yes

[humble aspen]

[zealous ivy]

Only thing they should have copied was the recoil on the weapons

[trim surge]

@dusky blade recently?

[frozen root]

The thing is that fanboys like you can't admit facts. So please go on and defend these studios and publishers. You're the reason we get broken games at launch.

[scenic tartan]

LMAO why does every treyarch cold war reload sound like rubbing two quarters together

[dusky blade]

He also called the people stupid and unknowing of anything

It was during BFV’s lifetime

[tribal wyvern]

And yet you don't got a comeback to how specialists are a copy of operators or how the "anonymous dice dev" is real

[stone epoch]

Wasn’t it Patrick Bach who said that? It’s been a minute plus I never gave a shit so it’s hard to remember

[zealous ivy]

Thas the sunderland guy who doesnt even work there anymore

[dusky blade]

I think it was a response to the lady with robot arms video

[arctic grove]

I feel personally attacked by this discord

[hidden sand]

"Don't like it, don't buy it" and that's exactly what people did lol

[trim surge]

@dusky blade if that's the lead dev of bf i don't have hope tbh

[humble aspen]

[dusky blade]

Then he left afterwards lmao

[frozen root]

Specialists don't belong in Battlefield. It ain't a hero shooter.

[tribal wyvern]

You literally got no comebscks for mr completely taking apart the srticle you keep using as "evidence" 2042 copied cod

[zealous ivy]

Then play portal

[dusky blade]

He’s long gone now, left after the game failed to meet estimated sales

[tribal wyvern]

Still not answering me, you're just proving you're wrong

[dark sandal]

i think tom henderson would have already verified that its actually an anonymous dice dev before he actually leaks anything + that guy also has an almost flawless track record

[hidden sand]

Alan Kertz was rooting for a lot of bad decisions, too

[frozen root]

I don't remember playing BF series for portal.

[tribal wyvern]

It's not him that said this btw

[zealous ivy]

Are you dumb lol

[hidden sand]

He's also no longer with DICE

[dusky blade]

It seems ea doesn’t restrict dice as much as other publishers, for the better or the worse

[stone epoch]

Tom Henderson wrote that article lmao he did say that

[dark sandal]

good sign maybe

[zealous ivy]

Its literally everything you people are asking for

[next onyx]

Tom henderson was never in dice, Guy's just a microphone.

[dark sandal]

no one ever said that

[tribal wyvern]

and he's been wrong twice in a row recently

[dark sandal]

that doesnt invalidate his status?

[next onyx]

Ohthe context was alan kurtz

[dark sandal]

things can change very quickly in game development

[tribal wyvern]

Nope, brad norton did

[vale pier]

That what we hope. We kinda need some more info or a dev QA tho

[next onyx]

Guy was wrong about the beta dates and many people in here listened to that lmao.

[dark sandal]

something thats true the other day (tom henderson leak) might be completely false the next day because of internal changes

[stone epoch]

https://gamingintel.com/battlefield-2042s-troubled-development-and-identity-crisis/

[proven igloo]

At this point he's only trying to stir the pot to stay in the lime light.

[stone epoch]

“By Tom Henderson”

[hidden sand]

No he wasn't? The Spanish beta trailer left sept 22nd in by accident

[tribal wyvern]

Oh, well i still do not think it's real

[dusky blade]

I wonder what 2042 would be like with no cod aspects, I can imagine it being a new experience, but still fun and recognisable

[marble orchid]

I mean, he was right about the beta dates, they just got pushed back

[tribal wyvern]

Cuz as of rn he's just stirring the pot

[frozen root]

He was right tho. A trailer in another language had those beta dates in description that he leaked. Then they got changed.

[stone epoch]

Don’t care about that, just responding to you saying he didn’t say it

[tribal wyvern]

Funny how he went from game's in a good state tocgame's in a terrible state so fast

[marble orchid]

and even then, he was right about the newer beta dates too

[tribal wyvern]

Alright, well thanks for proving me wrong on that

[foggy crest]

again your spelling of how

[dusky blade]

Bruh

[next onyx]

The beta even for a beta was rough

[foggy crest]

now u fine my brother )

[proven igloo]

No capitalisation or period.

[tribal wyvern]

I don't trust tom anymore bro, dude is stirring the pot constantly now

[next onyx]

Half of the settings didn't work and they didn't tell us this.

[scenic tartan]

how do games get away with making "basically a desert eagle" or "basically a glock" but not licensing those guns to use in a game? You couldn't do this with a porsche

[dusky blade]

He’s also missing , after again

[tribal wyvern]

And the 2042 xopied mw thing is clearly false, there is nothing in 2042 that is a copy from mw 2019

[next onyx]

I don't care they'll work in the full product, It's stupid to not tell people about these things.

[tribal wyvern]

So idgaf who wrote the article, it's bs either way

[stone epoch]

I don’t even like Henderson tbh, but I he usually has reliable leaks for games

[dark sandal]

tom is about the only leaker i fully trust

[dusky blade]

I feel bad for dice honestly, they really seem like they want a fun game for us and for them, based off their conversations in chat

[tribal wyvern]

USUALLY

[hidden sand]

This is the only BF Beta that in terms of gameplay, animations, UI, was this bad iirc.

Previous ones were buggy, but you could still clearly see the actual product underneath.

[stone epoch]

...yeah?

[dark sandal]

they probably want to but management keeps fucking them over

[next onyx]

I've always dislike leakers. Especially when people relay that information and don't shut the fuck up about it.

[tribal wyvern]

They do, and people shit on their work wanting them to remove yesrs of dev work on specialists in less than 3 weeks to bring back lrgacy classes

[dusky blade]

Oh I’m sure they do, oppressive publishers like this SUCK

[tribal wyvern]

Yeah

[stone epoch]

Yeah

[dark sandal]

good leaks are free marketing

[hidden sand]

I hope people know the lootboxes in Battlefront 2 were DICEs idea

[dusky blade]

I meant because of all the stuff management forces into their game lol

[proven igloo]

The only "leaker" I trust is temporyal, because he can actually back up what he releases.

[tribal wyvern]

There is nothing changing except bugs to the game now, so if you dislike the core features you might aswell just stop asking for changes and leave if you dislike the game

[foggy crest]

really ?

[dusky blade]

Temporyl is also good at visual design it seems so it’s even better

[tribal wyvern]

Same

[radiant prism]

Temporyal is more of a dataminer than a leaker tbh

[tame cobalt]

Temporyal is based

[celest turtle]

I'd love to know how many people cancelled their preorders after the recent announcements.

[hidden sand]

DICE is not a saint, they make plenty of straight up ridiculous ideas. EA plays a major role but like cmon now, lol.

[dark sandal]

leaking and datamining are different things

[tame cobalt]

Zero drama on temporyal's page

[foggy crest]

sad DICE

[stone epoch]

What do you mean backing up what they’re releasing? Does he give his sources? Cause if he does that’s just getting a dude fired

[radiant prism]

Leaks rely on revealing classified intel through insider access, datamining is viewing the code and looking for references within software releases that hint at content or mechanics

[tribal wyvern]

The recent announcements showed that all beta issues are fixed so why cancel?

[dark sandal]

datamine sources are the game files lmao

[next onyx]

I like temporyal, Guy is just generally helpful.

[celest turtle]

Specialist info to be specific

[tame cobalt]

Datamine = leak

[stone epoch]

Oh I didn’t know who he was lol I thought they said he was a leaker

[tribal wyvern]

How could that be cause for a pre order cancel

[dark sandal]

?????

[tribal wyvern]

What about the specialist info?

[dark sandal]

legit nobody said anything about cancelling preorder

[hidden sand]

Did we know all of the launch tanks and planes for BFV prior to launch? I can't recall

[tribal wyvern]

Read context please

[next onyx]

I don't think we did Suika

[full slate]

@dark sandal

[next onyx]

We didn't know they'd add the 38t & Staghound specifically

[dark sandal]

if the files are properly encrypted then datamining is more difficult

[stone epoch]

There’s tons of potential reasons for anyone to cancel a pre order

[tribal wyvern]

I don't see how specialist info can be onr of them

I mean, portal is there

[hidden sand]

Man I'm hoping so badly theres more than 2 tanks and 2 jets for AOW 😔
It's rlly frustrating they havent said anything else about it

[stone epoch]

Because they don’t like em? You can cancel a pre order for litterally any reason lmao you don’t have to give one when you cancel it

[tribal wyvern]

I don't see a very goos motive to cancel your pre order unless you're disinterested in portal (how could you be)

[dark sandal]

you are acting like 2042 is some flawless game made by saints

[tribal wyvern]

But what's portal there for then? And hazard zone?

[next onyx]

People have their reasons.

From financial to personal discontent.

[dark sandal]

look we get it you are a fanboy and confronting reality is hard to swallow

[tribal wyvern]

I understand financial

[next onyx]

The game isn't perfect, You may like it but another guy may not like it as much.

[tribal wyvern]

But i don't see a reason to do so out of personal discontent if you're interested in portsl

I can understand disliking aow and hz

But how can you dislike portal?

[dreamy raft]

[next onyx]

People probably don't view portal as worth it, You don't have to understand.

[dreamy raft]

"hoe"

[tribal wyvern]

Bruh there's people buying games solely for mods

[valid spruce]

Battlefield 2042 Hype Train let's gooo

[dark sandal]

portal isnt worth 60$ i might as well go play the actual games

[stone epoch]

People don’t like info they’re getting, so they cancel the pre order and wait and see how the game turns out to buy it, how is this difficult to understand? You aren’t locked into a pre order when you do it

[tribal wyvern]

Good luck with the outdated tech bf3 and 1942 got and dead servers 1942 and bc2 got

[dark sandal]

"outdated" lol ever heard of venice unleashed?

[tribal wyvern]

No i understand

[scarlet cloak]

Venice unleashed was dead last time i played

[tribal wyvern]

You know that's dead, right?

[valid spruce]

+_+

[dusky blade]

Make sure the train has tracks to follow

[valid spruce]

Got it

[dark sandal]

i think with portal the older games will be more populated

[valid spruce]

True ^

[next onyx]

I'm looking forward to 2042 but I'm cautious.

[dark sandal]

my expectations plummeted for the game but i still have a sliver of hope

[hidden sand]

We don't know the limits of Portal, we only know what they showed
The logic editor could literally just be a techy looking community games tab from BFV lol

[valid spruce]

I agree

[next onyx]

There's already a balance issue I can foresee

But ultimately we'll see how dice does it.

[stone epoch]

I’m excited for it, but nervous about how AOW is gonna turn out

[valid spruce]

Unforseen consequences

[next onyx]

Yeah biggest issue about portal is that you can't pay to have your server up.

[valid spruce]

Heard there's a bot in 2042, is it true?

[next onyx]

Yes

[dark sandal]

dice l-, sorry ripple effect wont be here to save dices asses again

[next onyx]

Or generally, Community servers. They thrive when they can stay up.

[stone epoch]

Only reason right now I’d cancel my pre order is if it comes out that there’s no server browser

[hidden sand]

They haven't explained how unlocks work in Portal either, do we have to unlock BF3 and WW2 stuff? Or is that all unlocked at launch?

[next onyx]

There'll be a server browser for portal

[dark sandal]

dude i played bf4 on locker yesterday and i legitimately cant use my he but i can use a fucking MBT LAW???

[next onyx]

But for it's main mode we have no idea.

[lavish shadow]

How about normal base game?
Edit: oh

[next onyx]

Yeah not sure

[dark sandal]

what kind of fucking logic is that

[stone epoch]

If there’s not one for AOW that’s still a dealbreaker for me

[next onyx]

It's probably the reason why they've removed spectator mode.

[lavish shadow]

They said it'll come post launch though

[stone epoch]

Server browser post launch? Lmao that’s dumb as hell

[hidden sand]

A server browser for Portal means nothing unless DICE has their own 24/7 severs for it

[lavish shadow]

I'm more bummed about no spectator mode than specialists cuz I've been creating content (not on the internet) for years and spectator mode would've been so cool

[dusky blade]

Well the beta did have disbanding lobbies...

[dark sandal]

spectator is a big advantage when used correctly

[lavish shadow]

A delayed spectator mode wouldn't be so bad

[dark sandal]

glad they got rid of that

[lavish shadow]

Noooo

[valid spruce]

Do we still have M.a.v. ?

[dark sandal]

you could legit have your friend be spectator and tell you where enemies are

[lavish shadow]

There was barely anyone who took advantage of spectator mode plus what's the fun in that? Playing it the normal way is 100x better

[stone epoch]

I miss commander mode

[hidden sand]

Spectator mode is a great way for people to take screenshots and make videos for 2042, spectator mode being excluded is fucking stupid

[lavish shadow]

Plus the spectator mode was delayed to like ~10s iirc

[stone epoch]

BF2 commander mode btw not 4

[hidden sand]

Amen 🙏

[dark sandal]

theater mode would be more fitting

[lavish shadow]

Like recorded gameplay?

[dark sandal]

or a high quality replay system

[lavish shadow]

Why not both 😏

I'm sure the spectator mode will 100% come out post launch so I'm not too worried

[dark sandal]

but spectator mode is kinda like watching a war unfold

[stone epoch]

Spectator mode was dope for community servers with good admins

Could easily tell who was cheating quickly

[hidden sand]

BF2s commander mode was essentially an RTS game lmfao, was awesome

[dark sandal]

bf4 commander

[stone epoch]

And the commanders could be killed on the field too

[hidden sand]

Me and the bois sneaking over to c4 the commander equipment

[valid spruce]

Wonder how Colonel 100 would play with this specialist system..

[dark sandal]

i just hope aa in 2042 is op as fuck

[hidden sand]

Man playing BF2 now is still so much fun

[dark sandal]

fuck jets and helis

[lavish shadow]

i feel like AA stuff is already too OP

[stone epoch]

We’ll luck for you we got AA options out the ass this go around

[lavish shadow]

think about it, for countering air vehicles, u got:

• everyone with the ability to carry an AA/m5 recoilless
• sundance to have her special AA grenade even tho it wont do heavy damage its another thing to wrory about
• AA which can lock on 600m+

what do u have to counter it? flares that have a cooldown of like 20 to 30s

[valid spruce]

Battlefield friend are back pog

[stone epoch]

Alright I have work in 6 hours and my buzz is wearing off goodnight y’all

[lavish shadow]

air fights will be hard when u get locked on all the time

[proud scarab]

We also don’t know the max homing range for Sundance. Just to add fuel to the flames x3

[lavish shadow]

yeah

but from the clip, the heli was pretty low in health (i htink like ~20%) so unsure how much dmgh it will do

[next onyx]

It's annoying not knowing where you're being locked on from

[lavish shadow]

yeahhh

[proud scarab]

It was also the lightest armored helicopter. Little bird.

[next onyx]

Counterplay wise it's bs

[lavish shadow]

true true, if it only has a small range and does little damage i wouldnt mind it

i just need more things in my heli as countermeasures i dont wanna be restricted to just dropping flares or hiding

[proud scarab]

I can’t wait

[light flint]

Hello chat

I just got off of a motor boat

[dark sandal]

if mw19 didnt happen, bf2042 wouldnt have been like this change my mind

[light flint]

And it was so fucking awesome

[dark sandal]

maybe in an alternate reality bf2042 played like a good bf game

[light flint]

I got fish water all over my face!

[proud scarab]

Wish people would stop comparing the two 🤦‍♂️

[topaz field]

2.5 weeks left Boyz!!

[dark sandal]

except that management wanted dice to copy mw19 mechanics lmao

[proud scarab]

I’d say 2042’s mechanics are superior.

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Release (Gold/Ultimate)
Releases <t:1636700400:R>

[dark sandal]

doesnt change that they tried to copy mw19 and then strayed from the bf formula

[proud scarab]

You’ll still play the game at least once, won’t you 🙂

[dark sandal]

because its bf i guess

[proud scarab]

Right

[dark sandal]

they will probably do some free trial anyways

[dusky blade]

They definitely will

Free trials were massively successful for cod, so they will follow

[dark sandal]

this way i wont waste my money if it turns out to be dogshit

[proud scarab]

It’s a fun game people. Don’t understand why people refuse to evolve :/

[celest turtle]

Bf4 bf1 and bfv are all decent and sensible alternatives to buying the latest buggy mess, it's not like those games are going anywhere.

I personally don't think I want to buy 2042 until it actually sells me, it's not very compelling with all the info we have and with so little time until launch it'll be a while before major changes happen.
No rush, the older games are still good games

[dusky blade]

It’s just sad because I see an awesome game here

The maps look sick, visual style is amazing, bud looks fitting

Then you have those few things which ruin it, and those things probably aren’t even at the choice of the developers

Really, really sad

[proud scarab]

I see no negatives 🤷‍♂️

There’s nothing game breaking. Just people moaning about mechanics. Mechanics which can be countered with tactics

[tribal wyvern]

One thinf that im so confused about is ehy people disliking the game stay

[proven igloo]

I'm just waiting for everyone to start the acceptance phase.

[tribal wyvern]

Like if you not gonna buy it what are you here shitting on it for?

[tame cobalt]

Tfw you want to play recon in bfv and you remember you have to use one of the recon primary weapons

[dusky blade]

Because they want it to get better, are interested in the franchise and want to see where the game goes

[proud scarab]

I’m waiting for everyone who was talkin shit to backtrack

[tribal wyvern]

Same, this shit has been happening since bf3

[dusky blade]

I talked shit on BF4, I still do, I’m not a fan of the game

[next onyx]

Regardless of my enjoyment of the game I will criticise it.

[proud scarab]

A lotta people are stuck in the past and believe every new release should be an exact carbon copy of either BF3 or BF4

Correct me if I’m wrong. :/

[tribal wyvern]

Funnily enough those same games were hated before launch

[proud scarab]

RIGHT!

[tribal wyvern]

So was bf1, so was bf5

[tame cobalt]

What's the best PTFO recon weapons in bfv

[next onyx]

The only thing i'm holding on for is Launch, But finding out that half of the qol improvements won't be there on the early week just kinda feels bad.

[tribal wyvern]

So, why should 2042 be an exception here? People hate it then thry love it

[proud scarab]

Yeah but what didn’t help BF V was developers and associates adding fuel to the flames

[next onyx]

Trench carbine, Ratchet.

P08 Carbine

Model 8 with irons

[proud scarab]

Trench carbine with auto loading 👌🏼

[tribal wyvern]

Yeah, but the "don't like it, don't buy it" statement is true, although it should not have been said by a dev

[proud scarab]

And a 3x

[proud scarab]

Agreed. :/

[tribal wyvern]

People are gonna backtrack on their ehit talking, just like all other bd games

[arctic grove]

Thor was in the game 😮

[dusky blade]

BF4 still sucks

[tribal wyvern]

At this point it's normal, same gonna happen with bf7

[tame cobalt]

Ty

[proud scarab]

Hoooo fuck! Nice shot. Also love the fact that the shot bounced after exploding lol

[tribal wyvern]

Bf3 was hated by bf2 and bc2 players lmao

Bf4 was called a bf3 reskin, bf1 was said to have ruined battlefield and copied battlefront, bf5 was hated for historical inaccuracy

[proven igloo]

Modern Combat is the only game that no one had a shitfit over.

[arctic grove]

it literally was a bf4 reskin, and it felt broken af

[proud scarab]

Yet was one of the most historically accurate WW2 game at the time

[arctic grove]

People just end up playing what one they like the most since even battlefields from 10 years ago have players

[oblique finch]

sayy wuttt, 18 days, 22 hours!

[next onyx]

Yeah was about to say, Bf4 is pretty much a bf3 reskin and had a god awful launch.

It took dice a long time ot actually fix it.

[tribal wyvern]

This goes to show someone had something to say even about the precious games the community loves

So don't go thinking 2042 is an exception

People think no one hated bf3 or bf4 etc

[proud scarab]

Let’s admit it. Battlefield games at reveal, beta, info drops/leaks, and launch is like buying your first car that’s pre owned.

[arctic grove]

no one hated bf3

[proud scarab]

I know a few people that hated BF 3

[oblique finch]

I hate bf3

[tribal wyvern]

Except a lot of people did, bf2 and bc2 players called it a downgrade

[arctic grove]

bc2 had a lot of potential

i wish they would just remaster the game or something

[tribal wyvern]

Ummmm portal?

[arctic grove]

fuck COD, i got banned on cold war when i upgraded to Win11

[tribal wyvern]

He's trolling, he loves bf dw lmao

[arctic grove]

treyarch are a bunch of clown

Old cod is cool, mw wasn’t that bad

New ones are god awful

[arctic grove]

mw3 era was the best

[proud scarab]

That’s another thing people forget

Portal is legit a PORTAL to past battlefield titles >_>

[tribal wyvern]

Yeah

[oblique finch]

been playing cold war on windows 11 since the start of windows 11, didnt have any problems

[proud scarab]

2042 legit has SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE

[arctic grove]

Yeah i think we all got that

[bright sphinx]

Portal

[tribal wyvern]

So many people bitching about specialists when, get this, they can fix them themselves

[proud scarab]

^

[arctic grove]

just wait

when you have some hard crashes

[tribal wyvern]

You can literally play AOW without specialists

[arctic grove]

imagine orbital with BF1 soldiers

[proud scarab]

I’ve heard Windows 11 has been really destroying some games and cards lol

[tribal wyvern]

Win 11 is not worth upgrading to rn

[bright sphinx]

Imagine orbital with the Armored Kill vehicles from BF3

[distant egret]

Ok hear me out

[lime crystal]

Good morning! Someone can use when

[arctic grove]

I like Win 11, it just broke some games

[oblique finch]

my fps decreased with 1 to 2% when I switched to windows 11.

But my minimum fps increased by 1 to 2%

I have a more stable fps. and its pretty cool

[distant egret]

This game bad

[next onyx]

Specialists wouldn't be so bad if they were properly distinguishable between factions and actually balanced.

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Release (Gold/Ultimate)
Releases <t:1636700400:R>

[proud scarab]

Imagine a Tiger versus Sherman fight on ORBITAL >:D 64v64

[proud scarab]

AHHH I JUST PUMPED MYSELF UP! XD

[wraith needle]

What I have noticed about the trailers is that the targets are barely moving and the players gun is like a laser, but in the beta everyone is mega sprinting everywhere and your guns recoil is insane. You can’t hit shots when your guns is pointing into the sky and your target is running like a mad man. We want to play casually not learn spray patterns and be jumping and running around doing 360s

[distant egret]

Paragraphs lol

[arctic grove]

How is that supposed to fix the ban

[proud scarab]

The trailers are staged mate lol. If you pay attention to the second operator release trailer when it switches to Sundance the players name is legit stating that it’s a staged scene

[arctic grove]

I got banned right after i upgraded played 10 matches or so

[wraith needle]

It’s annoying how they advertise the guns to be smooth but in the game they are just aids

[oblique finch]

been playing for over 200 hours since swapping to windows 11 at the earliest build possible. No ban here (cod cold war)

[proud scarab]

I mean. I think recoil is better on PC because of M&Kb

[proud scarab]

It seems more manageable whenever I see someone on PC tho. 🤷‍♂️

[wraith needle]

I’m on mouse and keyboard and I just can’t get the recoil under control

[shy bronze]

When does the beta start?

[proud glen]

it still didnt end

[proud scarab]

Just noticed my mistake. XD Go easy on me, it’s 5 am :3

[oblique finch]

because we actually use a mouse. And not some thumbstick?

[wraith needle]

It’s annoying because you get that one guy in pc who is amazing at the game and all of a sudden all of pc players has to suffer

[lime crystal]

Saw somewhere that they adjusted movement but in the beta players were a bit rubber banding, let's see how it is at launch

[proud scarab]

We can turn off Crossplay right? >_>

Nyeeeeeh I want it to raaaaain and snow

[wraith needle]

Did you have the problem where you should be aiming at a player and none of your shots would hit?

No I’m mean literally going through them

[next onyx]

Recoil is easy to control on PC. Recoil has always been easier to control on controller for obvious reasons.

[lime crystal]

Yes definitely, plus aiming in the beta felt very weird like you move your mouse in an irritating way or something like that

[dark sandal]

thank god bf has actual recoil patterns now

also recoil is the exact same regardless of platform and input

there is literally no difference

[wraith needle]

Maybe it’s because I haven’t touched my computer in several months and I just gotten a bit rusty

[proud scarab]

Maybe it’s because I bounce between 7 FPS’s in a day ;-;

[arctic grove]

I hope they make more music for bf2042

because this is less then what i expected, especially for a batlefield game

[proven igloo]

Can't hear the enemy if music is on.

[proud scarab]

^

[proud scarab]

Ngl that sounds like a Colonel 100 line lol

[dark sandal]

pls someone tell me you can disable the abomination that is taa in 2042

[arctic grove]

i mean original music for menu, colonel

[proud scarab]

TAA?

[proven igloo]

I mean it's true, I'll give it a listen once then turn it off.

[dark sandal]

temporal anti aliasing aka fucking dogshit blur

[proud scarab]

Oh..

[dark sandal]

in bfv they forced it on but there was a workaround to disable it

[arctic grove]

temporal time travel bullets

[proud scarab]

Motion blur?

[dark sandal]

no shitty implementation of anti aliasing

[oblique finch]

I dont get it why devs enable motion blur by default

[proud scarab]

So. Just to give you a heads up I am dumb when it comes to in game technical jargon. Sorry :/

[arctic grove]

I just send a ban appeal request to activision, i hope they unban me because i have no idea what happened
so i guess that appeals to unauthorized access

I hope Battlefield 2042 doesn't ban people for no reason like activision does

[steel python]

Who has Window 11?

[dry robin]

nope

[next onyx]

I heard they were on their little pc ban wave

Not a good look.

Than again they don't want good players in cod anymore. The same players that gave their games their identity.

[hard breach]

eyo battlefield 2042 chat, hows it goin

[proud glen]

aim assist

[vocal tusk]

You think recoil is easier to control with a gamepad?

[lone wren]

good

[proud glen]

is beta over?

[lone wren]

going to play bfv

[proud glen]

its 2021.... u should be planning out ur executes on bf2042

[next onyx]

Recoil on console has a negative multiplier

Sorta

there's a 0.75x Multiplier on console

[lone wren]

what do you mean by that i dont mess with my settings

[vocal tusk]

I just find that recoil controls distracts from my aim. thats never been a problem for me with a mouse

[lone wren]

now i must fire MP-40

[tired quest]

good thing I probably won't be playing 2042, that new character with borderline wallhacks seems hella cringe

[proud scarab]

There’s more to 2042 than the multiplayer. You have portal which stretches across the entire franchise and then the extraction mode Hazard Zone. But hey, you do you. 🤷‍♂️

[tired quest]

you know what I meant, don't even.

[proud scarab]

No. I don’t know what you mean. I don’t know you so I won’t assume your motive or intent.

You strike a game out on one feature that will more than likely change, but a feature to which you can ignore entirely.

[still vault]

Ah yes, the influencer effect. Influencers mention they are worried about an ability and suddenly everyone think it's the end of the world/game.

[proud scarab]

^

cough Jackfrags. cough Westie

[tired quest]

why would I complain about something that isnt exclusive to the 2042 base game? specialists won't even be in BF3 portal

[mystic peak]

bruh

[vocal tusk]

While I agree that it has potential to be OP...I also find it hilarious that people want a futuristic shooter, but without the futuristic elements.

But I also doubt it will be at all OP

[tired quest]

look at halo, people enjoy that game without being able to see eachother through walls 💀

[proud scarab]

Not to mention. It’s battlefield. We can hear our enemies clear as day. We can counter that specialist people. Close quarters means you tap them with your gun then melee for a takedown. Rinse. Repeat.

[vocal tusk]

Look at Boris turret...It can spot and mark multiple enemies at a range of 25m...this thing has a range of what seems like 5m

[kind tapir]

Do we know when preload is?

[scarlet cloak]

10th november

[proud scarab]

On a ten second battery

[kind tapir]

Thank you

[tired quest]

yes but you see, people won't play Boris lol

[proud scarab]

People will

[scarlet cloak]

Boris will most defo be palyed on modes like breakthrough

[tired quest]

not if his Gadget remains shitty as fuck

[proud scarab]

Not to mention I’m pretty sure Paik is one of the specialists you get later in the game :/

[still vault]

Oh I think plenty of people will play Boris. Suits the playstyle of many.

[vocal tusk]

Boris turret is great for dual corner holding, or reverse angle defense

[proud scarab]

It wasn’t workin properly in the beta. I’m sure it’s fixed

[tired quest]

what was working properly in the beta is the real question xd

[scarlet cloak]

Also rao also spots people if he kills a hacked target, so

[proud scarab]

The grapple hook? XD

[tired quest]

💀 💀

[proud scarab]

Rao can literally alter the elements in the world. XD

[scarlet cloak]

[vocal tusk]

Not a single complaint that Boris turret can spot you at 25m when a player wouldnt have seen you in a bush, but a 5m range wallhack has the entire community up in arms lol

[tired quest]

Rao has Farcry map editor as his gadget

[proud scarab]

Espinoza will be interesting with that deflection shield of his

[scarlet cloak]

Full espinoza squad

[proud scarab]

Like Carbo said. Influencer effect

[dark sandal]

there should not be negative recoil on controller

controller has its advantages

[crimson minnow]

It’s still pretty OP

[proud scarab]

No. It’s not.

It just spots people for YOUR character

[dark sandal]

turrets are not op smokes exist

[proud scarab]

It all comes down to individual skill :/

[crimson minnow]

It’s still a wall hack

[vocal tusk]

Influencers have a right to air their opinions to be fair...JackFrags just said he doesnt like it and it doesnt belong in BF...while others have released multiple videos on the topic... cough..a dude from the west

[dark sandal]

driftor

[proud scarab]

Oh for ten seconds. Big whoop 🙄 I’m not hearin one person complain about Espinoza, Boris or the god damn little birds.

[tired quest]

nobody complains about the little birds because we've all played bf4 😂

[scarlet cloak]

Littlebirds in bf4 are fine

[dark sandal]

bro what a cool ass bf man now my helicopter will get taken down by some lock on bullshit grenade like im playing apex or sth

[proud scarab]

Or Sundance. For Christ’s sakes. Sundance is pretty damned good.

[dark sandal]

instead of aa or tanks

[scarlet cloak]

I love that anti air grenade

[vocal tusk]

We cant possibly know if its OP or not. we have yet to see the receiving end players side of things. Look at bloodhound in APEX...they have a long range track ability and also wallhacks....if anything...at clutch points of gameplay in tight areas...it is detrimental to winning. (For high skill players)

[scarlet cloak]

Gonna be fun

[crimson minnow]

My entire argument after being replied with “🙄”:

[still vault]

cought stingers cough

[dark sandal]

apex has a very high ttk

[tired quest]

should've just kept the normal class system, man.. other than money, I dont know why they did it

[proud scarab]

Imagine it can be changed to a homing EMP grenade that can disable your chopper.

[arctic grove]

Apex 🤢

[scarlet cloak]

Only because of armour

[proud scarab]

Ask me if I care.

[arctic grove]

🙄

[proud scarab]

[vocal tusk]

Judging by the damage the grenade did in the trailer (15)...you would need to hit a littlebird with 7 of those grenades to destroy it...The little bird is the least armored vehicle in the game

[scarlet cloak]

At the end of the day, if you still don't like operators when 2042 releases after trying AoW, you still got portal

[next onyx]

Rao's better balanced than Ji soo

Changed my mind

[dark sandal]

well but then at the end of the day the primary focus of 2042 is aow

[proud scarab]

^ and hazard zone.

[dark sandal]

portal and hazard zone are side projects

[scarlet cloak]

Portal will still get stuff though

[dark sandal]

yes but its definitely not the main focus

[tired quest]

is BF3 portal just gonna be classic battlefield 3 or is it gonna be like, enhanced? is there gonna be an MCC Esq kinda situation with portal?

[vocal tusk]

Portal had 2 studios working on it though, how are people calling it a side project

[dark sandal]

bf3 with 2042 animations i assume

[scarlet cloak]

Bf3 with 2042 mechanics and gunplay and that

[vocal tusk]

Ripple effect and EA Gothenburg

[dark sandal]

and mechanics but you can delete specialists

[tired quest]

is the blue tint gonna be gone

[arctic grove]

Can we portal to fortnite?

[dark sandal]

seriously

[scarlet cloak]

Yes it will be gone

[tired quest]

let's fucking GO

[vital cloud]

Portal is definitely not a side project lol

[dark sandal]

you dont expect them to add blue tint into 2042 lmao

[scarlet cloak]

No but nvidia filter can

[dark sandal]

even dice arent dumb enough to add it back

at least 2042 got bf3 hud elements

yay i guess?

[arctic grove]

Umm does anyone else think the bots are a bad addition to the game?

[tired quest]

I personally likes battlefield 1s HUD the most, hopefully we can customize the HUD to the max when the whole game comes out

[scarlet cloak]

Bots are fine imo, kinda needed with the player size

[tired quest]

yea but if I join a server and like, half the players are bots I'll count it as empty and leave lmao

[proud scarab]

Aye. Bots are fine, and at least they’re fun.

[scarlet cloak]

Beats joining an empty server all together atleast for most people

[arctic grove]

From the gameplay I watched, they seem to dodge bullets and know your location without looking. Also I dont find killing bots fun

[tired quest]

bots out here giving free kills

[hidden sand]

Portal has more content than the base game lol

[tired quest]

surprise, the sun is also bright

[hidden sand]

The bots were pretty bad in comparison to Battlefront 2s, really wonder why that was the case.

[vocal tusk]

Portal does...and it has cross progression for your levels, weapons ETC...Where this "side project" claim is coming from, I dont know

[hidden sand]

Portal is more innovative than AOW ever will be if it works properly at launch.

[tired quest]

which, going off of battlefield history, will not.

[arctic grove]

The bots are far to bad

[maiden cosmos]

no

[vocal tusk]

Looking forward to some Mackay action in the docks area of Arica Harbor

[scarlet cloak]

I just wanna play sundance and fly

[arctic grove]

Add no challenge at all and take away from immersion

[hidden sand]

But then there's still the regressed movement, animations, and vehicle physics which is a huge rip.
But if it works properly at launch I'll be satisfied with it at least for a bit.

[vocal tusk]

BOTs in 2042 arent meant as player replacements, they are meant to be there to fil the server

[arctic grove]

Exactly. Its like playing an offline arcade game

Mornin

I get no enjoyment from kill farming bots 🙁

[tired quest]

hopefully there aren't too many bots when the game comes out, I'll get bored very quickly

[arctic grove]

Yay it's not weird in here for once. This discord got real strange last night.

Id rather play in a half empty server with real people

[hidden sand]

Genuinely cannot believe people are concerned about bots in MP lobbies lmao.

[arctic grove]

Bots worked great in titanfall

[hidden sand]

You will be able to find full lobbies just as any other Battlefield.

[dark sandal]

i dont like bots

[arctic grove]

So why add bots now

Will new battlefield have server browser

[tired quest]

oh come on, bf1 full lobbies are like 40 people most of the time 💀 💀

[scarlet cloak]

Bots are around for people who don't want to get stomped by players and just wanna chill and unlock things

[dark sandal]

it gives me a false sense of pride and accomplishment ™️

[hidden sand]

Bots aren't just for filling up MP games, there's offline play as well.

[arctic grove]

You always had that anyways.

[arctic grove]

Should be just an offline arcade mode. Not in the main multiplayer

[tired quest]

I think you mean, casuals who don't want to git gud

[scarlet cloak]

Ehh

[hidden sand]

What? Never had issues getting into full lobbies in BF1. Could be your sever browser filters.

[arctic grove]

Yeah if you aren't mlg don't play the fucking game.

[hidden sand]

Battlefield has always been casual

[arctic grove]

Adding bots to fortnite changed it a lot. As a result many people quit

[tired quest]

server browser doesn't work for me, everything is always empty with no filters, quick match is all I can play

[dark sandal]

casuals who dont want to get good but still complain about me "sweating" are the biggest losers lmao

[arctic grove]

What is your region

[scarlet cloak]

Bf1 feels quite empty sadly, seems most people are on bf4 or 5

[hidden sand]

Ah, that's your issue then. You have to select specific filters in order for it to work.

[arctic grove]

Smells like projection.

[dark sandal]

they go as far as to accuse me of cheating as to not hurt their fragile ego

[tired quest]

NA

[arctic grove]

Bots should be only for small lobbies like a sub 10 players lobby. Not a 64 or 120 players lobby where half of them are bots.

[arctic grove]

Dont see why you cant find games then

[dark sandal]

i love hurting peoples ego on bf

[tired quest]

yea but at least you always had to fight players in order to play

[hidden sand]

Are you guys intentionally this dense or what

[tired quest]

I hope there's no "bot only" gamemodes.. at least for portal

[hidden sand]

Bots only appear when a player leaves

[dark sandal]

bots are boring

[vocal tusk]

Hopefully the issues of too many bots being in a given server will be fixed. It was stated that that was a bug with server backfilling (And apparently was already fixed), but we will see.

[scarlet cloak]

Bots can't be turned off

[arctic grove]

Dont select 'all'. Only select 'none' and '+10' and so on, and you will find servers

[hidden sand]

This won't be an issue anyway, because of a server browser

[dark sandal]

i just want a portal preview its quite concerning we havent seen anything yet

[arctic grove]

If they never got rid of the server browser we wouldnt need bots 😡😡😡😡

[desert elbow]

Yeah very true

[dark sandal]

they butchered community servers in bfv

[tired quest]

if there's like 10 bots in a match, fine, but anymore than that and I'm leaving, id rather play Farcry 3 if I wanted to slaughter bots

[vocal tusk]

Every little thing seems to be concerning to so many people. lol

[dark sandal]

like legit why havent we seen any portal gameplay or preview when its 19 days away from launch lmfao

[scarlet cloak]

We did, we got a trailer a while ago, WITH gameplay

[tired quest]

yes I have no filters on and I get empty servers

[arctic grove]

No gameplay trailer tho

[dark sandal]

we havent gotten any sneak peek on the actual tools or how it would work

[arctic grove]

It was cinematic

[hidden sand]

No, we saw scripted heavily edited gameplay with surface level information
We have no clue on how it works, how expansive it is, the limitations of it, etc

[dark sandal]

it was just like "uhh yeah here is a bf3 map with some guys with knives"

[tired quest]

epic gameplay

[dark sandal]

thats not a trailer

[scarlet cloak]

My brain must be remembering it wrong I guess \o/

[vocal tusk]

Look at the interviews the director of Ripple Effect did with multiple creators.

[dark sandal]

this is just concerning

[arctic grove]

Spooky😟

[tired quest]

99% of the portal trailer was Germans and Americans killing eachother with knives and defibs without actually giving insight to the game

[dark sandal]

exactly

[scarlet cloak]

What about seeing the EOD bots vs that 1 tank?

[tired quest]

the remaining 1% I suppose

[arctic grove]

Bet they delay all the remastered content and in launch portal is just whats in bf2042

[hidden sand]

Logic editor videos should be coming out before launch not after

[vocal tusk]

What more info do we need than what was shown, or that isnt on this page

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/game-overview/modes/battlefield-portal

Stating that a lack of gameplay is "concerning" is bordering on tinfoil hat wearing levels

[hidden sand]

Limitations, in depth look at the logic editor, a look at the gameplay for it, etc

[tired quest]

imagine if custom 2042 servers become a thing but you can disable specialists.. id play actual 2042 if I could play a custom server like that ngl

[hidden sand]

No? it's not what
We're 19 days away from launch lmao

If we were months way I'd agree but it is concerning they haven't shown much of it off

[arctic grove]

Where is the battlefield main theme in bf2042?

[tired quest]

I usually like to see the picture of what I'm buying on Amazon before I buy it

[vocal tusk]

Yes, and we have multipe interviews with portal devs...a reveal trailer and the above page detailing what the mode is

[somber hinge]

2042 pretty SUS

[scarlet cloak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAZNDkC9lnA

[hidden sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FytcxmBT9Ls @arctic grove

All of the info for Portal was summed up in JackFrags video about it, still doesn't really go into how exactly the logic editor works and it's limitations and features

[tired quest]

yea this is just scripted though, it's all coordinated instead of just footage of a random portal game

[desert elbow]

I feel like the only thing they really need to announce for portal is the ability to replace specialists with classes, because that’s what most people are wondering

[hidden sand]

They did confirm that

[vocal tusk]

We already know you can do that

[scarlet cloak]

You can do bf3 era soldiers in 2042 maps if you want the class gameplay

[arctic grove]

Sorry doesnt sound like battlefield

[desert elbow]

They confirmed Bc2, bf1942 and bf3 classes but not the ability to make custom 2042 classes with 2042 weapons and gadgets

[vocal tusk]

Or BC2 or 1942...or any combination of the 6 factions

[hidden sand]

They said you can't disable specialist so I'd imagine this is something you can't do but who knows

[arctic grove]

Sound more like the bf4 dragons teeth trailer lol

[vocal tusk]

There are no 2042 classic classes.

[next onyx]

I bet just bf3 soldiers in those maps will be the most popular

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Release (Gold/Ultimate)
Releases <t:1636700400:R>

[desert elbow]

That's why I'm wondering if you can make your own

[vocal tusk]

you cant

[hidden sand]

Yeah because classes are what BF is, it won't be surprising if they become most popular

[desert elbow]

You don't know that

[valid spruce]

moment

[vocal tusk]

they already said that 2042 modes use specialists, even in portal. I do know

[hidden sand]

He's talking about Portal

[desert elbow]

"2042 Modes" You make your own modes lol

[arctic grove]

Battlefield bots and R6S 2042

No they said 2042 will feature Minecraft characters.

[valid spruce]

Ah..

Typical

[hidden sand]

? You can use BF3 classes in AOW modes

[vocal tusk]

Yes, I know. They said that at release, you cant play as specialists but in a previous games class format

[desert elbow]

When did they say that?

[hidden sand]

Got a link?

[oblique finch]

I think it would be stupid from EA/DICE to make it possible to dissable specialists in portal. As it would make a big hole into their wallets because people dont see the need to buy skins?

[vocal tusk]

It was in the briefing stream, trying to find it now

[signal path]

they can keep the specialists but add restrictions

[arctic grove]

This is amazing

[desert elbow]

I feel like it would be the opposite, there's clearly a big audience for Portal & if they decide not to let classes return then they'll lose arguably more

[desert elbow]

The helicopter custcene at the end is so cool

[arctic grove]

Yeah i love how they did it

[pastel chasm]

So are there classes or not? If so, are specialists restricted to those classes? Specialists seem like a giant mess, tbh. Especially in regard to balancing.

[hidden sand]

I think the beta showed off how BF3 classes will be displayed in Portal, since they said you cannot disable specialist.
Specialist will remain selectable, with classes based on your selection next to it.

[torpid shuttle]

I love 4K quality.

[scarlet cloak]

Specialists atm can run any gun and gadget they want

[hidden sand]

Which means no classes

[scarlet cloak]

Ye

[arctic grove]

What is this

Very bad

god dang it discord why so smol

[scarlet cloak]

Why is the video so small

[arctic grove]

https://youtu.be/cWtbppjWEDM

[hidden sand]

Imagine removing such an integral part of BF and calling it good innovation

[arctic grove]

It's cold

[arctic grove]

iField

Well time for me to go sweat up some bf1. Enjoy your middays.

[scarlet cloak]

Enjoy APL

[hidden sand]

I think what bothers me most, is how people seem to think you need to scrap improvements and features from past games in order for it to be good and unique
Which is ridiculous because there is a core formula to Battlefield, and each game should be built upon that

[hidden sand]

Enjoy

[arctic grove]

I think i'm never gonna play cod again

[signal path]

crouch sprinting

[arctic grove]

i just love how they show the map before the match starts

[torpid shuttle]

This is all out warfare mode but better UI

[desert elbow]

Crouch sprinting was designed around the WW2 setting for BF5, wouldn't make much sense in bf2042

[pastel chasm]

This, and the ones who just say, "JUST PLAY PORTAL." I am not spending $60+ on a game just to play one mode.

[desert elbow]

Then don't buy it lol

[hidden sand]

Battlefield is not a mystery box for each title, and it never should be
Each game should build off the previous, improved with added features that don't take away from what BF is

[arctic grove]

Yeah this build might be older so its gonna be even nicer

[hidden sand]

Ah yes because soldiers stopped crouch sprinting post ww2

[arctic grove]

Bro doesn’t portal allow you to customize bf to anything you want or some shit

[desert elbow]

There's a reason 99% of games with crouch sprinting are WW2 or WW1 games

[arctic grove]

yea you can make some crazy shit

[signal path]

it would still work in this setting?

[still vault]

Actually, developers can't do anything right. If they just built upon previous games people would go on social media, like Discord, and say they just make the same game every year 😄

[desert elbow]

It would still work but it wouldn't make much sense

[arctic grove]

i love how the russians speak english

[hidden sand]

Oh so was that said about BF1 building upon BF4s movement? Or BFV building upon BF1s? No, not to the level of specialist, ttk, or loot boxes, etc.
That's a ridiculous what if and doesn't validate removing core features and degrading the quality of the game. Just how I feel, though

[signal path]

small steady changes like BF1 to BFV

[arctic grove]

Bf1 sliding 😟

[pastel chasm]

The "Russians" in portal or the main game? Lol.

[hidden sand]

Why would it not make sense? Lol

[arctic grove]

main

Some changes are good. Not all changes are good

[opal compass]

[signal path]

like if you dropped me in this game without knowing what game it was I would have told you its the new COD

[hidden sand]

Change happening also doesn't mean the changes are inherently good

[crimson minnow]

Guys

[desert elbow]

It was based around trenches

[tame cobalt]

2042 changes are good

[crimson minnow]

The Ji-soo specialist is too op

[hidden sand]

Except for the fact BFV barely had any trenches in it's maps

[tame cobalt]

[toxic stratus]

Battlefield needed a change for once and it’s a good change tbh

[torpid shuttle]

Agree. By the way I don't see any player list?

[signal path]

The only people ive seen that like this game are all COD players, I guess thats saying something

[desert elbow]

It had many, and you could build them with the fortification system, not to mention the open fields with limited vehicles

[arctic grove]

Every title had a major change. This isnt new

[desert elbow]

& This is it's new change

[arctic grove]

And its a very bad one

[real ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnQeSHkWGdM 1080p version in Battlefield's channel

[desert elbow]

Not necessarily

[hidden sand]

No? There's not many trenches, plus you barely use them because the maps weren't designed with them in mind.
BF1 had trenches built into level design, for instance. You can use crouch sprinting for more than just trenches, it applies to anywhere it would give you an advantage. Which is very common.

[toxic stratus]

Never said it was new

[arctic grove]

I didnt play the beta. Dont think specialists are bad. My only concern is the bots

[arctic grove]

Giving operators wall hacks is great for balanced gameplay 🙂

[dark sandal]

[desert elbow]

Good for you, there's still reasons they are hardly in any other time periods other than WW games

[tame cobalt]

I've never bought any cod and i think 2042 may be the most fun bf yet. So now you can't say that bs anymore

[signal path]

I dont mind them but there is 0 restrictions

[desert elbow]

You...don't even know how it's balanced yet?

[pastel chasm]

If the specialists were class-based and had equipment restrictions, I wouldn't have minded...but...it's not like that.

[dark sandal]

"dude its such innovation to remove classes"

[hidden sand]

And you can't explain any of them but alright

[toxic stratus]

“Don’t like it don’t buy it”

[desert elbow]

I did, you seemed to dodge my point about the maps being designed as open fields with limited transport vehicles

[arctic grove]

Went down very well with bf5 😆

[hidden sand]

Because that's how it is in 2042 lol, it was a redundant point

[next onyx]

Crouch running stuff again?

[toxic stratus]

Bf5 was trash anyway

[dark sandal]

we all saw how well that turned out

[next onyx]

Bf5 was actually quite decent.

[desert elbow]

It's not lol, there's a multitude of transport vehicles whether it be on the air or ground

[dark sandal]

bfv is a good bf change my mind

there isnt really a "bad" bf

[tame cobalt]

Don't like it don't buy it. What a based statement

[arctic grove]

Yes but when the devs basically tell the consumers to go fuck them selves it doesnt usually end very well.
No matter how good the product is

[next onyx]

Crouch running regardless of its setting would make sense to keep your head down

[dark sandal]

the devs even mocked the player base at their launch party and that got leaked lol

[tame cobalt]

they should've mocked them publicly

[hidden sand]

? How is that relevant
You're mentioning wide open spaces, where that'll be in 2042 as well
BFV had plenty of transport vehicles, too, you must've not used em

[next onyx]

Just because a game doesn't have trenches doesn't mean that that little option isn't moot.

[desert elbow]

...Bro lmao

[arctic grove]

That was cringe af. Who does that

[dark sandal]

not that much later patrick soderlund, who told consumers to fuck off, quit

[vestal lichen]

ANGEL LANDED THE SNIPER SHOT AT THE END OF THE CLIP
YEAH

[next onyx]

Keep your head down by the cars

[dark sandal]

you should look it up its hilarious

[next onyx]

Keep your head down by the bushes, keeping your speed up

[arctic grove]

Angel with sniper shouldnt be allowed

[arctic grove]

Yeah I saw it

[tame cobalt]

Mocking the playerbase in private is not enough. They deserve public mocking

[hidden sand]

Am I misunderstanding you? 2042 is gonna have wide open maps too lol

[next onyx]

A support with a sniper should be the least of your concerns.

Especially angel.

[hidden sand]

There's no genuine reason to remove crouch sprinting and my opinion won't change on that anyhow, this is pointless

[desert elbow]

Sure

[arctic grove]

Crouch sprinting is fun

[next onyx]

Angel looks to be what i'm looking at for a support.

[arctic grove]

Because people definitely aint gonna sit 1000m away from any obj and just snipe all game

[dark sandal]

altho that whole gender situation was a clusterfuck and deserved mocking its still not recommended to do so lmao

[next onyx]

Players do that anyways.

[scarlet cloak]

What's angel do again? I forgot

[deft fossil]

thats every bf

[dark sandal]

why did people get so upset about it anyways?

[next onyx]

He gives ammo, calls in supply drops and revives people faster, giving them armour.

[scarlet cloak]

Ahhh

[signal path]

nah that chick that can scan through walls is broke AF

[arctic grove]

And angel gives ammo and health with is half busted for sniping

[next onyx]

Ji soo is a problem.

[desert elbow]

Here we go again

[hidden sand]

I wonder if they are going back on the revive animation being a placeholder, it's still the same in every trailer so far

[dark sandal]

i want seperate medic and support classes pls

[bronze thorn]

Isn't supply drops something all specialists can do from the call in menu? I can't remember the full list.

[next onyx]

Ji soo is a major balance problem, Giving someone the option to see through walls makes other recons use moot.

[signal path]

lmao?

[dark sandal]

so basically dice fixed a problem that was never a problem in the first place with specialists

[next onyx]

Call in menu? They can all call in tanks and rangers

[deft fossil]

i mean if they are 1000m away sniping i doubt they would even need health and ammo really hasnt been a problem in old bfs you dont run out of ammo quick asf with a sniper

[next onyx]

But angel can call in a supply drop that allows people to change class.

[vocal tusk]

They are entirely class based...

Assault - Attack focused abilities
Mackay - Grapple hook
Dozer - Assault shield
Sundance - Smart Explosives

Engineer - Fortify/reinforcement abilities
Irish - Cover/Explosive shield
Boris - Sentry support/Spotting

Support - Teamplay abilities
Falck - Healing/full revive
Angel - Resupply/full revive/armor

Recon - Spotting abilties
Casper - Drone/EMP
Rao - Hack spotting/Device hacking
Paik - Wallspot/damage spotting

[dark sandal]

its like im playing lifeline

[next onyx]

I think he means the secondary gadgets

[hidden sand]

"Here we go again" is more incentive for an argument than someone just stating their opinion but ok

[vocal tusk]

change loadout, not class

[next onyx]

Not class

[arctic grove]

Whats the propblem with specialists? They can revive and give ammo right? They just have a different name now. I think the only concern with this is balance

[arctic grove]

Yeah but they would eventually run out and have to move

[desert elbow]

@hidden sand

[deft fossil]

or redeploy and just spawn on their spawn beacon

[dark sandal]

why the fuck are medic and support now merged into one? thats fucking stupid

[desert elbow]

Sounds a bit hypocritical

[dreamy raft]

[next onyx]

I kinda like support and medic being one but at the same time would be nice if they just made it its own class

[tidal badge]

oh yeah i remember that. wasn't it just quotes from the playerbase shown on a massive screen as a joke?

[next onyx]

Yeah Orim

[bronze thorn]

I don't like Angel on paper. Reviving and giving armor at the same time seems a bit strong.

Obviously I'm gonna do the common sense thing and see how Angel is ingame before I complain daily about something being heavily broken / op and then insult the devs calling them stupid and not knowing it's op and ... yada yada yada.

[hidden sand]

Argument had already started lol

[tame cobalt]

Maybe the devs don't want to make the same exact game 20 times in a row?

[arctic grove]

What does it matter if they are merged into one? They can still heal and give ammo!

[dark sandal]

there was stuff like "genderfield v" and "my grandpa stormed normandy for this shit?"

[desert elbow]

Sure

[deft fossil]

true

[signal path]

they have no weapon/equipment restrictions

[vocal tusk]

And?

[dark sandal]

what the fuck there is armor now?

[hidden sand]

I mean it had but okay

[deft fossil]

which is good

[next onyx]

You didn't know there's armour?

[vocal tusk]

they are still separated into classes

[dark sandal]

what is this

[vocal tusk]

Did you even play the beta?

[pastel chasm]

From what I've seen and heard, the specialists can still use equipment from other classes in their loadouts. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if that's the case, then what would be the point of classes?

[dreamy raft]

but the armor is kinda useless

[hidden sand]

Damn that block button is handy

[arctic grove]

Even just having 2 of them together would be near impossible to stop because of the amount of advantages he has

[dark sandal]

i didnt know there is armor lmao

[signal path]

you will find with that system some specialist will be head and shoulders above others

[next onyx]

Irish will spawn with 10 points by default

[desert elbow]

Mad lol

[next onyx]

Knock it off

[deft fossil]

because he has infinite ammo? bruh he basically already had that in old bfs its nothing new

[chilly steppe]

[hidden sand]

They're separated by name, but how they function is not how classes function

[vocal tusk]

The point of classes is to designate a combat role. The reason they allow all specialists to pick from the large gadget pool is to allow a soldier to play that role, but also be effective in a situational field of combat

[arctic grove]

Has ammo and and all buffs a medic has

[dark sandal]

once again this is an atrocity and a disgrace to bf brought upon us by dice management

[desert elbow]

It's a game lol

[deft fossil]

but he dosent need to heal if hes MILES away from any other person on a hill sniping

[next onyx]

It was dice outside of the game mocking people

[bronze thorn]

Is spawn beacon a specialists specific item or is it just a gadget available to everyone?

[deft fossil]

gadget most likely

[next onyx]

Honestly i don't mind a rocket launcher being a secondary gadget but the fact that a spawn beacon is brings in massive concerns.

[arctic grove]

Specialists can do the same things classes do. What is the problem?

[hidden sand]

With a single gadget to select, there is no incentive to select something like, a repair tool, or healing, or ammo, etc

[dark sandal]

no fucking way you can run an rpg as a secondary

[vocal tusk]

AKA...you are a really good sniper player...but a heli keeps killing you. You can take AA and keep your sniper/recon role with someone like casper...not being forced to swap to an engineer just to kill a heli..then swap back to a recon as you would have in previous games

[hidden sand]

Because if I only have one slot, why would I not take the rocket launcher?

[deft fossil]

falck + ammo crate is severly underrated

[tame cobalt]

If you want to run an RPG so badly why don't you just do it?

[next onyx]

I'd rather take c5 and work off that. You can't run ammo plus c5 so wtf is the point

[dark sandal]

man class locked gadgets and weapons were at least balanced enough

[crimson wasp]

that's pretty much all i played in the beta! 😄

[signal path]

but thats not the point of that specific class

[arctic grove]

Run an RPG as primary

[hidden sand]

People underestimate how selfish people are going to be playing, especially with how selfish a lot of these abilities are

[dark sandal]

this is just a clusterfuck

[next onyx]

Yeah Falcke with ammo box and motion sensors is just messed up

[vocal tusk]

Maybe for you there isnt. But I like to play a support/healer role. So ill take a med box/ammo box 90% of the time

[hidden sand]

? That's not the point I was making

[real ether]

18 Days

[vocal tusk]

that is literally the point of it in 2042

[hidden sand]

I do too, I'm speaking in general, I only play medic usually

[desert elbow]

To be fair they've nerfed RPG's and C5 in order to promote carrying ammo crates

[dark sandal]

one man army class incoming

[signal path]

so effectively cod

[pastel chasm]

Honestly. The whole thing is a complicated mess. Balancing is gonna be a huge problem.