battlefield-2042

[marble orchid]

eh, i think it should've been made more minimalistic

[copper fulcrum]

It's like a Vector and nothing else

[iron blade]

well when it got dropped at first it was pretty darn good

Like everyone was rocking it and blasting everyone to oblivion

[unkempt carbon]

I could see why you think that, not really sure how they would display that much information though without making it minimalistic

Maybe they could have done what BFV did but a more modern theme

Overall though the new UI is good imo

[molten trout]

the rof was pretty good

[solar tinsel]

There's just one MAJOR problem with the Commorose...

I did NOT see an "ENEMY BOAT SPOTTED" option

[molten trout]

[weak umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/715704049399234570/900883749246496798/Screenshot_20211021-160414_Chrome.jpg

[solar tinsel]

and how I am I supposed to spam that at the start of rounds

[unkempt carbon]

Damn thats a pretty big issue right there

[solar tinsel]

Ah the pleasures of old BF games, just getting people to look confused with a blinking red boat icon in the middle of the land

[glad mist]

idk if thats sad or funny

[copper fulcrum]

tmw that red boat icon was actually true

mfs back then would put whole destroyers on the damn island

[solar tinsel]

Back then I think we were more easily entertained 😂

[copper fulcrum]

1942 was a WWII playground

Literally everything happened in that game

[weak umbra]

mw2 was a online modern playground

[copper fulcrum]

I'd give that to BF2, BF3 and BF4

[weak umbra]

basically the whole cod franchise

was a online playground

for kids who have parents who dont give af about the rating

[copper fulcrum]

So, Battlefield 1942 had capture the flag and you can hold a flag while in a plane.

With this power you had pilots do rende-flags or whatever it was called

Jump out the plane, grab the flag, the plane comes back and then they get back in the plane to capture it.

[solar tinsel]

Reminds me of the early BF2 Blackhawk capture days

[arctic grove]

92%...

[copper fulcrum]

Here's some footage of that
https://youtu.be/j3qoQbwyu6o?t=40

Very, very old video

[arctic grove]

battlefield 2042 needs nail polish customization

who agrees?

[solar tinsel]

loading geometries 62%

[gleaming kettle]

I wish AntiCheat put the game into some sort of Virtualization box like antivirus software to prevent outside hooks attaching to the program etc..

Might help combat cheating

Elon musk richest man alive, wish he would develop something else to change the PC multiplayer expirence or donated $$ to assist development

[arctic grove]

guys i have an idea

exo suit specialist?

[weak umbra]

double jump battle field??

[meager robin]

dog is pog

[arctic grove]

yes a DOG specialist too

lets you deploy a one hit kill dog

[meager robin]

that would be pog but cod players are gonna come and then kill everyone

[arctic grove]

wallrun specialist????

[meager robin]

no

[arctic grove]

ground pound explosion specialist

commando pro specialist

how about they re-add enter and exit animations for vehicles... and then have a specialist that has none

teleport specialist

rewind time specialist

exo suit DOG specialist

and last but not least, fish specialist

[gleaming kettle]

Dog as a specialist, sounds like John Wick would have to interfere Everytime a dog died..

[solar tinsel]

well obviously this is the one to go with

[fringe musk]

Im so hyped for bf 2042

[solar tinsel]

Their trait can just be making fish puns

[arctic grove]

no he deploys realistic fish ai

[solar tinsel]

"We just CARPtured Alpha"

[foggy river]

You didn't jus-

[solar tinsel]

"COD use some ammo!"

[zenith heron]

PUN JAIL

[solar tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[gleaming kettle]

What about a Boat map? We never had boat battles in BF... Been mainly MTB/Helicopters

[zenith heron]

BF1 has a pretty boat-heavy map in one of the dlc, i think Cape Helles?

[arctic grove]

bro

bf1 has a boat MAP PACK

[gleaming kettle]

Never played bf1

[arctic grove]

bad

[solar tinsel]

BF4: Naval Strike

[arctic grove]

bf almost always gets a sea oriented dlc pack

good for the fish specialist

[gleaming kettle]

Well bF4 maps had mix of vehicles but I don't remember anything specifically set for boats

[solar tinsel]

I mean specifically the Naval Strike DLC, which had a lot of naval and boat-oriented maps

[gleaming kettle]

I'm talking more about boat vs boat, no land. Even if carrier vs carrier had to take command.

Like open seas combat

[solar tinsel]

Well a map with NO land doesn't exactly seem very engaging haha

I mean may sound fun on paper I suppose, but I don't know about practicality. Perhaps it could work but even Air Superiority often times had some land to fly through

[soft locust]

battlefield v better than battlefield 4 stay mad

[solar tinsel]

I could get down with carriers involved though

[gleaming kettle]

I mean it happens daily, modern pirates, imagine going from carrier to carrier, or cruise ships to capture points

[solar tinsel]

Iron Gator 2.0

[gleaming kettle]

I play bf5 it's infested so bad with cheaters if you play the single player aspect you start to accuse the AI of cheating... Causes so much PTSD lol

[soft locust]

cap

[sharp adder]

im upset that 2042 was supposed to come out tmrw for me :(

[gleaming kettle]

I dunno man, I wish they delay it even more, it needs alot of AAA polish

[sharp adder]

i just want to play the game already

[solar tinsel]

I get a sense BF2042's launch will be comparable to launches of BF3 and BF4. A bit rough at the start, but still mostly fun

[gleaming kettle]

Yeah bf4 had a really rough launch

[knotty spade]

Good morning

[gleaming kettle]

Just hope it has a long term support and doesn't become abandoned ware

[solar tinsel]

I get the sense that EA has this positioned where they WANT to provide longterm support, to keep the income flowing

Plus, Hazard Zone and Portal, seem positioned to continue on as live services beyond 2042

I mean, BF2042 truly is a live service game this time around

and that being the case, I think unless BF2042 becomes to the degree of say: Hyperscape, I think it will continue to be supported

[peak socket]

new specialists seem good

[arctic grove]

Doubt they gonna support for 2 years till new bf on 2023

[peak socket]

Halo infinite gonna have 10 years support lmao

[arctic grove]

Trash game

[vast sparrow]

are they going to continue to release classic maps over time for portal?

[arctic grove]

I will try it tho since it’s free

[molten trout]

hopefully

[vast sparrow]

i see there are only 6 announced

[arctic grove]

Yes they have a lot more to release

[fervent grotto]

I’m just excited for November in general

Vanguard and 2042 I can’t wait

[marble orchid]

just play modern warfare

[arctic grove]

New war zone map pog

[vast sparrow]

the reception has been overwhelmingly positive from their recent flight so i think thats a personal opinion at best

[fervent grotto]

I have it but I want to play vanguard

So I’m excited! I loved the mw engine and the beta felt awesome

[manic pivot]

2042

[velvet geyser]

[arctic grove]

Owo

[velvet geyser]

UwU

[fervent grotto]

Idk how Ill split my time between 2042 and cod. firstworldproblems

[weak umbra]

halo

and bf2042 boutta take up all my time

[peak socket]

yes

and why is slowmode here suddenly

[carmine elbow]

The new specialist look bad

Only good ones are the angel and dozer

[weak umbra]

@mods get rid of slowmo

plz]

[soft turtle]

Hoping they bring back metro and BF1 trenches

[carmine elbow]

Eyes after going outside in locker

[peak socket]

maybe not metro they wont add maps from the same game again nd again i think

[carmine elbow]

They will

[soft turtle]

well Vietnam content will be good

[carmine elbow]

Like 2 maps per a season

[soft turtle]

bruh 2 maps

[sudden sedge]

bruh

[carmine elbow]

Pearl market, dragon valley, operation metro

Bf4 maps are doo doo

The base ones

[soft turtle]

hope we can get f-22

[iron blade]

Im not fond of specialists, but im hella excited for the game lol

[glass shadow]

metro wasnt a bf4 map was it?

[carmine elbow]

Yesnt

[soft turtle]

espinoza guy looks dope

[carmine elbow]

DLC but the DLC version was bad

[iron blade]

I want St. Quetein Scar and Amiens for the BF1 maps

[carmine elbow]

I'm defo gonna stick to portal or play as angel

[glass shadow]

I think ballroom blitz would be cool

[carmine elbow]

Because squad play is gonna be awesome on portal

[iron blade]

Yeah, his rich accent tho

[iron blade]

Yeah, but idk if we can have more than 2 maps per game

[soft turtle]

yeah, I would like if he would sound like boris instead of that

[iron blade]

same with me man lol

[solar tinsel]

Maybe if Portal goes on for long enough, we could see returns to games that previously had maps in Portal

[iron blade]

yeah, he looks like a Russian dude tbh

[solar tinsel]

but then again, there are TONS of Battlefield games

[scenic tartan]

How did dice not think it would be weird to have 128 players in a match and they all use one of like 6 faces

[soft turtle]

Ezpinoza looks more russian then Boris himself

[glass shadow]

Espinoza looks awesome, as well as sundance, she's really cool

[iron blade]

Yeah, it sucks because BF1 has a ton of kickass maps that would be great in portal - St Quetin Scar, Amiens, Ballroom Blitz, Rupture, Fort de Vaux, etc

[solar tinsel]

I enjoyed BF1! It wasn't my favorite alltime, but I had a blast playing it

[iron blade]

Yeah, ig the new specialists look cool...but the korean wall hack lady is uhh...shes smth else

[solar tinsel]

I feel the same way about BF2 maps. Shit I'd pay $60 a remaster of BF2 not gonna lie with all maps ha

[cerulean folio]

agree

[solar tinsel]

"how to pick 2" from these games

[scenic tartan]

As long as it's short range and it has a long cooldown it'll be fine

[iron blade]

Yeah, I hella loved BF1, its my fav game in the series

[cerulean folio]

the korean girl is going to be meta

[solar tinsel]

I feel the same way. Even cooldown aside, if the range isn't insane, I think it will be less valuable than people think. BF 2042 has huge maps, and not all situations would benefit from that ability

[scenic tartan]

Seeing enemies around you the size of a spotting flare for 10 seconds won't break the game

[iron blade]

I hope that at least people that are detected by her can somewhat counter it, like maybe a tiny blip appears over the wall hack lady's head for like a second to tell them where she is

[solar tinsel]

I also noticed it "pinged" the effect, and wasn't a constant readout

[scenic tartan]

@iron blade that would make it useless though

[iron blade]

Well, idk, just throwing out ideas

[fleet drum]

the new specialist with the enemy highlight radar thing when getting shot looks overpowered as hell

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/carry-on-blackops2-a7x-slap-gif-14543065

[iron blade]

Damn, poor Raul man

[solar tinsel]

I don't even think that's that useful either, considering if you're getting hit first, that's already a disadvantage

[scenic tartan]

It seems like it'll be best for approaching an indoor point and getting an advantage
Just like the grapple can give an advantage by approaching from a high vantage point

[next onyx]

CARRY ON

[arctic grove]

[scenic tartan]

Or how the turret spots enemies and damages them and distracts

[iron blade]

I mean, they could have made it similar to like the heart beat scan from MW

[fleet drum]

wait why is raul playing the guitar

[arctic grove]

Pog

[iron blade]

Like it only tells the player where the enemy is in that single scan, but wont tell the player if they move

[arctic grove]

He actually played it in the ending

[peak socket]

what do you guys think of the specialists

[solar tinsel]

that could be the way to balance it: last known position sort of thing

[iron blade]

Yeah exactly

[solar tinsel]

but I still don't even know if that's necessary yet, gotta see it in action

[iron blade]

Yeah, just worried from the footage we saw lol

[soft turtle]

only good one is ezpinoza

[iron blade]

ehhhh it has potential, id like to see changes tho

[solar tinsel]

true, just keep in mind. These trailers make each ability seem god tier

[peak socket]

and sundance

[iron blade]

Yeah true lol

[solar tinsel]

it's all staged

[peak socket]

wingsuit...

[stone epoch]

Does the scanner make the enemies visible to teammates? Or just the one dude using it?

[soft turtle]

yeah, and good thing is they are customizable

[solar tinsel]

I interpreted it as user only

[iron blade]

Tbh I actually hope it is, because if it isnt, than thats just solo-wolfing BS right there

[peak socket]

i dont care of what anyone says. ill go sundance

[solar tinsel]

Sundance I think will be very popular, given the wingsuit and explosives. Seems like a fun one to play!

[stone epoch]

I can definitely see her being nerfed in the first update lol

[peak socket]

Sundance, Macay, and dozer

[iron blade]

I hope that like when the scan reaches an enemy, it will have like an enemy ping marker, but it will only tell the enemy's last position, and doesnt show if the guy moves

[stone epoch]

I hope it lets the enemies know they’re being scanned at least

[solar tinsel]

See, I even think she has a balance too. Her wingsuit is awesome, but it's only relevant if you're on high ground. IF you're not, it's kind of a wasted perk. The grenades might be OP, but that armor grenade was moving damn slow, I bet many vehicles can outrun it

[iron blade]

I am just having PTSD of the future lmfao

[arctic grove]

A wild raul menedez appears

[iron blade]

Yeah, like it says you are detected or smth

[stone epoch]

Was talking about the Korean specialist

[solar tinsel]

ah gotcha, yeah, we'll see. If the scan range is too large definitely will need to be nerfed, but I see tons of ways to go about that as many of us have mentioned

[glossy storm]

I remember skipping this on my first playthrough. I'm not gonna do that again with my second playthrough.

[solar tinsel]

Last known position, inform of detection, etc.

[stone epoch]

I’m not too worried about the flying grenades as long as they’re weak to flairs

[crimson wasp]

Which specialist will you 100% just have to try out when the game comes out!?

[solar tinsel]

heck it could maybe be reduced to red blurs as opposed to outlines

[solar tinsel]

I don't see how you not try them all out

[stone epoch]

Bf3 medic

[arctic grove]

The wing suit

[iron blade]

"MeNeNdEz!!11!!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3FjfpFrPbY

[stone epoch]

Or my boy assault from bad company

[stone epoch]

I loved how the us assault looked in bad company 2

Just looked cool

I wonder if you can disable prone in portal and actually play a modernized BC2

[solar tinsel]

Perhaps!

[iron blade]

It would be hella funny to have like a random easter egg where the voice lines for the BF3 support in portal switch to the noob from BFFs

[solar tinsel]

I'm curious as to when we'll get hands on the logic editor

[iron blade]

for like a single life

[stone epoch]

Give us fun specialists if they’re going that route, like haggard or sweet water

[solar tinsel]

I'm a bit worried that it won't release alongside launch, but either way, looking forward to it

[crimson wasp]

Wingsuit was definitely my favorite out of the bunch too
The thing looks so agile!

[iron blade]

Yeah, the grapple hook is also hella fun with the vector

[stone epoch]

I’ll probably switch between angel and McKay, maybe Maria if the gun is actually useful in full release

[next onyx]

Sundance looks to be the best anti vehicle specialist in the game

Since her grenades can be coupled with c5

[solar tinsel]

Seems like they're making some good changes to that gun

[next onyx]

You can disable tanks and blow them to pieces with c5

[solar tinsel]

the magnitized shots will help a bunch

[subtle sand]

The vector seemed to run outta spare ammo fast

[iron blade]

As an avid tanker in all BF games, im gonna be shitting myself

[next onyx]

Honestly it'll be easy to tell if a sundance is going for you

[stone epoch]

The Indian specialist with the emp perk and Caspar with his c5 suicide drones will probably rip tanks a new one too

[next onyx]

But keeping her in check

That depends

Im a bit concerned though for her smart bombs since they can home in on helis

[iron blade]

Yeah, probably because of the fast fire rate, hopefully we get like ammo boxes and whatnot at the objectives like in BFV, I really liked that element in that game

[next onyx]

Are they counterable with countermeasures?

[solar tinsel]

They did seem to move extremely slow at least, probably could be outflown

[next onyx]

Yeah that too

I was thinking of that

[solar tinsel]

plus, who knows how much damage they deal. The heli in the vid was practically toast already

[next onyx]

That too, how much did it have left. 30%?

[iron blade]

mini flares

[solar tinsel]

Something like that, was smoking 😂

[next onyx]

The only thing I would change is mackays nimble perk and the Korean specialists gadget

[solar tinsel]

If slow + can be countered + low damage, I think they can wind up being fine. A nuisance, perhaps though!

[next onyx]

Yeah

More annoying if you're not watching out

/greedy

[iron blade]

I still cant believe that DICE added a grenade danger indicator, the game is now saved!!11!

[stone epoch]

Or if 5 of them get thrown at once at them

[next onyx]

Her cluster bombs seem to be nasty though

[solar tinsel]

That might be my favorite ha

[iron blade]

Also the commerce wheel looks epik

[stone epoch]

I actually enjoyed the no grenade indicator it reminded me of the hardcore BF4 days lol

[peak socket]

so like 5 seconds ago, i thought the game wont be that good, 5 seconds later, i saw the videos and thought they were epic. the ui changes, spewcialists, fixed features, all of em

[solar tinsel]

and to think, that happened in 2 months

[iron blade]

Yeah, but it was always annoying when you were on a kill streak in2042, and died from a grenade you didnt even see/notice

[peak socket]

now it seems like the game gonna go strong

[solar tinsel]

Still a ways to go I'm sure, but I think it shows the pace that can be achieved when they're focused on polishing and not adding content

[stone epoch]

Just like the BF4 hardcore days lmao

[iron blade]

specwcialists are swpecial

[solar tinsel]

Karkand: POOMBALA! <dies>

[next onyx]

Yeah the little bird looked to be on 25% @solar tinsel

I saw the health for it in a split second

[stone epoch]

Those grenades were killer though, I wonder if impact will be able to kill at full health like the normal ones do

[solar tinsel]

I'm trying to remember, did the V30 minis in BF3 OHK?

[iron blade]

Damn guys, BF1 turns 5 years old today, BF1 FOR LIFE!!!!

[solar tinsel]

my guess is that it won't be a OHK, but just a wide spread

[peak socket]

i think they were in 4

[solar tinsel]

ah sorry you're right, BF4

[next onyx]

Shit

Even less than i thought

Whew

[peak socket]

actaully yesterday, 21st october

TODAY the game was supposed to release lmao

[solar tinsel]

I think Sundance will actually be something folks will need to master. I can see new players burn their nades carelessly and fly into spots that aren't great, and then are left with nothing of value

[stone epoch]

It’s been 5 years? Shit I need to graduate college lmao I was a freshman when it came out

[solar tinsel]

If you're on the ground, nowhere to fly to.

[next onyx]

She's gonna be a popular grenadier

[peak socket]

21 days 2 hours 4 minutes nice

[marble orchid]

Why are there so many spotting abilities in 2042, they need to tone it down

[glass shadow]

True haha

[iron blade]

well its still teh 21st for me lol

[solar tinsel]

I like her Specialist philosophy: very much like a Die Hard blow shit up and jump out of buildings character, will be fun to play

[next onyx]

For sure

[stone epoch]

I’m glad they delayed it tbh I can’t imagine how bad launch would have been if they needed to delay it

[peak socket]

Kaleidoscope enters the chat Did someone say flying? I have many skyscrapers which are perfect for flying.

[next onyx]

I kinda like how her wingsuit isn't her only gimmick

[solar tinsel]

well we all said we couldn't distinguish enemies, right? haha

[next onyx]

Despite advertised

[peak socket]

granade is chosen through plus system

[solar tinsel]

ha but once you're DOWN there....

[next onyx]

Yeah we know

[peak socket]

go to nerest sky scraper

[slim bough]

Aint no way I just got banned on apex and their discord for not calling bloodhound they them

[solar tinsel]

ha repeat

[stone epoch]

Rather have different camo for the other team than a giant red outline tbh

[peak socket]

or catch a tornado

[marble orchid]

Most of the enemy team was never spotted

[solar tinsel]

I'm curious what they meant by the "tint" thing

[peak socket]

halo infinite had a red outline and it worked

[next onyx]

Maybe due to shadowing but the soldiers camo seemed darker

For the operators

[stone epoch]

Just do it America’s army style where your team has the camo they chose but the opposite team has a singular color

[peak socket]

and they insertion form thing looks cool. mission brief, then off to the dropzone to fight

[solar tinsel]

I think if they don't want to lose full cosmetic, perhaps a red band could be on enemy soldiers or something

[arctic grove]

Add this to the game

[solar tinsel]

or a red flag patch

[stone epoch]

Best of both worlds, your team gets to look like special snowflakes but the other team to you and your teammates look like bad guys

[peak socket]

is that a nuclear bomb farting?

[arctic grove]

It’s a rail gun from the US navy

[oblique finch]

Morning peeps

Only a few weeks left!!!

[stone epoch]

Rail gun tech is some scary shit tbh

[upbeat swallow]

1am over here

[arctic grove]

The rail gun actually got pulled from funding so lol

[peak socket]

more like flame thrower

[stone epoch]

12am for me

[oblique finch]

7 in the morning

[peak socket]

SLEEP

[arctic grove]

10PM PT over here

[upbeat swallow]

Lol I usually sleep at 2

[peak socket]

10:30 am here

[solar tinsel]

Technically it's 10pm PT everywhere 😆

[arctic grove]

From the Navy

[arctic grove]

Impossible

[stone epoch]

Looks like a death ray

[arctic grove]

I think they would’ve added those on ships which would’ve been cool

[eternal valley]

thats me

[arctic grove]

[peak socket]

looks like that big cannon in DOOM eternal

[stone epoch]

That thing’ll kill Godzilla before he destroys the Golden Gate Bridge

[peak socket]

do you guys think the new build is better than the beta build?

[stone epoch]

Idk we haven’t played it lol

[peak socket]

no like from what we saw so far on youtube

[stone epoch]

I’ll bet you a penny the launch build will still be buggy as hell

[peak socket]

like bf4

[sweet flame]

are not you capable of independent thought ?

[peak socket]

and bf4 was fixed in 1 year

[stone epoch]

Well that was a bit uncalled for

[peak socket]

nothing is Immaculate veteran. especially games

[upbeat swallow]

The launch may not be that good but It'll probably be better than bf4's launch

[stone epoch]

That’s a pretty low bar lmao

[peak socket]

keep the expectations low and you will be amazed

[stone epoch]

I legit couldn’t get into a match of BF4 for months after launch

[arctic grove]

Hot

[stone epoch]

And when I did it was terrible

[marble orchid]

"A nearby Grenade Indicator has been added."

[solar tinsel]

Boris looks like he's trying to find the closest bar.. didn't mean to tag you

the "bar" thing is total unrelated ha

[marble orchid]

didn't that screenshot show no one on the team revived anyone

[peak socket]

its only focusing on some stuff and not the things which they are actually meant to do

[arctic grove]

[peak socket]

like falk is supposed to revive and that isnt shown

[stone epoch]

Angel looks like they combined medic and support which means I might main him if they improved revive

I like playing both medic and support

[peak socket]

it isnt showing what they are actually good at

[marble orchid]

they shortened rez times and more than likely binded it to another key

[stone epoch]

But I’m used to that key from battlefield 5 lol

[iron blade]

I still hate grandma woman

[stone epoch]

Should be tap to pick up guns hold to revive

[arctic grove]

I’ll turn you into a grandma, wait a minute

[stone epoch]

Worked decently enough in 5

[crimson wasp]

https://fxtwitter.com/T0TALfps/status/1451215402806218756?s=20
Kill feed in the middle is also being tested :)

[solar tinsel]

To Specialists defense, these are I think the fun elements of that. Being able to discover hybrid builds that fit interesting playstyles. It's not to say specialists are perfect, but I find that to be rewarding to know you can create all sorts of combos

[peak socket]

E

[arctic grove]

Pog

[solar tinsel]

like: if you put a Med Kit with Angel, he truly becomes a super hybrid medic/support class

[stone epoch]

I’m an Xbox player it’s x for me

[marble orchid]

hecc that's long

[arctic grove]

I ain’t reading that long essay holy

[peak socket]

i thought the kill feed was in the top right corner where everyone who killed someone was shown

[marble orchid]

tldr; that was the most stable build with items built for it

[peak socket]

X

[stone epoch]

That was like two sentences lol wasn’t that long

[arctic grove]

[solar tinsel]

I think he misused the term

[crimson wasp]

it was in the trailer!

but things in trailers can or may change

[upbeat swallow]

Necondaa I want the gold edition too 😢

[stone epoch]

Caspar looks straight outta ghost recon future soldier with those cross com glasses lol

[solar tinsel]

I think the term confusion comes from kill feed vs. personal score feed

[stone epoch]

Did they fix the scoreboard?

[arctic grove]

New scoreboard

[solar tinsel]

@peak socket the kill feed (currently) is on the left over the minimap, along with other event feeds like commorose and objectives

[stone epoch]

At least show us points if you don’t wanna show K/D

[peak socket]

the ui changees show what YOU did such as vehicle hit or sector defended etc at the center. but the kill feed is still on to of t he map on the map

[arctic grove]

Looks like a report card

[teal shard]

These changes are delicious

[solar tinsel]

the personal scoring feed is now though underneath the crosshair

[crimson wasp]

original scoreboard did display your own KD as it was in the beta

[peak socket]

is that what they meant or something else

[crimson wasp]

but i do agree that it would be nice to see how everyone is else is doing compared to yourself

[arctic grove]

Also hot

[stone epoch]

Your own though not everyone else’s though, unless It was there and I couldn’t figure out how to see it

[solar tinsel]

totalfps? I think they misused the term "kill feed" and meant to say scoring feed

[arctic grove]

Is that the Korean waller

[peak socket]

i love this insertion thing

[upbeat swallow]

I really like the change they made where it shows you where each objective is. I had a hard time finding where each objective was at first

[arctic grove]

She looking thick

[peak socket]

dice, do another beta

[arctic grove]

I like the animation of it

[stone epoch]

So there’s insertion cutscenes like in titanfall and mw2019? Dope those are cool as fuck

[solar tinsel]

They changed the color/contrast of those objective points too, which was huge

[peak socket]

another beta with the latest build and we will decide what to change

[crimson wasp]

Would be pretty neat if the whole scoreboard was in the middle

[solar tinsel]

red/blue text on a black BG, definitely easier to see

[arctic grove]

💩

[solar tinsel]

So: I still think there may be a full scoreboard. At least when I was on PS5, I was able to pull up a full players list in the beta. It just had no scores yet

[marble orchid]

something something dont want players to worry about kd something something something

[stone epoch]

Do you can only see your squads score individually?

[peak socket]

just like all other games i've played. 3, 4, and 5

[arctic grove]

Scoreboard looking like a report card ew

[peak socket]

press tab and i can see the whole scorboard with kills and classes

[marble orchid]

I like how they tried to improve teamplay by getting rid of the scoreboard but adding the squadboard isn't going to encourage anything

[peak socket]

now its just..... only squads

[crimson wasp]

I would also prefer that

[marble orchid]

To encourage squadplay

[stone epoch]

Wat?

[peak socket]

we could check hackers using that scoreboard

[crimson wasp]

I don't think you could even see your squadmates score in the beta build at least

[arctic grove]

My squad be on that team play

[crimson wasp]

just how many kills they had

[marble orchid]

too bad

[peak socket]

i dont even know if we can see other squads

[crimson wasp]

and revives / etc

[marble orchid]

dice has spoken

[peak socket]

see how its going in general

[marble orchid]

you couldnt see anything in general

[peak socket]

whats that triple bar thing at the end after the revives

[arctic grove]

That’s good tho now people won’t look at other people scores and try to get more kills then them

[stone epoch]

They should change the scoreboard to just say “you suck” instead of showing you any stats

[peak socket]

you suck

[crimson wasp]

i think it's all the actions combined

Kills / assists / revives

[marble orchid]

But now we can't see who's going 100-0

[solar tinsel]

This is what I saw on PS5: https://i.redd.it/wcq300jaetr71.jpg

Not my image, but there was something akin to a full scoreboard

[arctic grove]

Lol

[solar tinsel]

just.... no scores on it, but I'd assumed they'd go in later?

[peak socket]

and we cant see the general performance of the team

[stone epoch]

It’s a scoreboard minus the score

[peak socket]

or how many noobs are in the game

[arctic grove]

Probably they still working on things

[solar tinsel]

Right, did PC players not have the ability to pull that screen up?

[arctic grove]

Nah

[marble orchid]

dice did a number on the score part

[solar tinsel]

I recall in the settings seeing there was supposed to be a difference between PRESSING and HOLDING options. I actually never saw the other scoreboard folks are showing on PS5

[arctic grove]

I can’t remember I think u could see ur squad performance in beta THATS it

[solar tinsel]

I never held OPTIONS on PS5 though

[peak socket]

and what was supposed to be the board is just a namee list

[shadow tangle]

Dozer and Paik ruining Battlefield 2042 on launch day im telling you now

[arctic grove]

On left side yeah u could see ur squad performance

[solar tinsel]

but if I pressed options and went to "Players & Squads" from the menu: that was what I got

[peak socket]

its sundance ur talking about

[vestal lichen]

I wonder if we're getting extended gameplay soon cause the Insertion flow footage looks cut short

[arctic grove]

Yeah we are

[dusky blade]

Wait what?

[arctic grove]

?

[shadow tangle]

Sundance is fine

[dusky blade]

How? The game never tells you. Is the scoreboard not in the pause menu, I thought it was

[solar tinsel]

I think the confusion is there seems to be two types of scoreboards

[dusky blade]

Why would there be two scoreboards....

[shadow tangle]

Legal wall hacks and a stupid riot shield that deflects bullets is not

[arctic grove]

Yeah there were 2 scoreboards

[solar tinsel]

One is the full list of all players, which I saw on PS5 under the main menu
The other is the split screen , with squad stats on left and personal stats on right

[arctic grove]

One for squad performance other for seeing who was on which team with just names

[dusky blade]

Well the one I saw wasn’t a score or a board. It was a list square

[solar tinsel]

It could still be a WIP

[arctic grove]

U could see their pings too

[dusky blade]

So why don’t they call it a list square, or a ping square

[solar tinsel]

technically I don't think it's called anything, but I think the intent is for it to be a scoreboard

[arctic grove]

I’m sure they going to keep changing it till launch lel

[solar tinsel]

100%

[dusky blade]

This game has so many weird changes....

[arctic grove]

I rather have it in middle but I get it they wanna do something new

[solar tinsel]

you mean from previous BF games?

[dusky blade]

Yes

[peak socket]

wingsuit

[arctic grove]

But it doesn’t look pretty

[solar tinsel]

Yeah, I mean, again, it's hard to tell since the beta clearly had stuff that was not in or was WIP

[arctic grove]

If they make it more prettier rather than looking like a hospital report it will be good

[dusky blade]

Like how the minimap is now a map which covers your whole screen, so why use it?

[peak socket]

bf4 was same thing

[arctic grove]

Maybe u can change the size in settings who knows

[shadow tangle]

Wingsuit isnt op lol it doesnt change the style of the game at all or deaths to stupid stuff, Its becoming like cod. One moment ill die to robot doggo the next to legal wall hacjs '

[arctic grove]

Yea annoying

[dusky blade]

Doesn’t change how bad it is

[peak socket]

never used it. didnt need to

[arctic grove]

U can just shoot Emma out when she flying

[dusky blade]

I used it constantly to actually know where I’m going, also informed me of where pushes were going on

Although I guess it really isn’t necessary as teammwork isn’t a thing in this game, so I kinda get it

[solar tinsel]

isn't that what the 2042 map would do for you to?

[arctic grove]

I don’t even use my map

[solar tinsel]

you'll see teammates on the map, and controlled sectors

[dusky blade]

No, the other map showed you an image of the entire thing and where every teammate was

It’s more like the respawn screen but smaller

[arctic grove]

Or u can make ur minimap larger and still see it without pressing m

Bf4 had such good setting sheesh hope they bring same settings in 2042

[solar tinsel]

isn't that what the Big Map in 2042 will do too?

[dusky blade]

The big map covers the WHOLE screen, it looks like

[arctic grove]

Every map does that

[dusky blade]

It doesn’t....

In BFV you could expand the minimap to see the whole thing, yet it only took up the corner

[solar tinsel]

So you're talking specifically about resizing the minimap

[arctic grove]

They just have a zoomed in pic for u to see lol

Minimap not going to cover ur whole screen wtf

[dusky blade]

I’m just giving an example of one of the many things they changed for no reason

[dusky blade]

The EXPANDED one, not regular

[stone epoch]

Wait wait wait, I’m reading the blog rn, and it’s saying you gotta level up to unlock specialists

[arctic grove]

Sounds cool

[solar tinsel]

My memory is a bit hazy, but wasn't BF4's expanded map taking up most of the screen as well?

[stone epoch]

So not all 10 specialists will be available at the beginning?

[dusky blade]

Yeah, and it sucked, it was changed in the newer games

[arctic grove]

That’s why people should have gotten early access to not have to grind

[dusky blade]

Didn’t the blog also say you’ll be given freedom to the specialists after level 10

Which is like, 3 matches

[solar tinsel]

gotcha I can't recall BF1's TBH and didn't play 5

[stone epoch]

Said first 4-6 hours are gonna have a reduced load out

[arctic grove]

ya doubt dice thinks i cant grind all dat exp in an hour watch me

[solar tinsel]

That's been true of most BF games if I recall, you have to unlock the rest of the gear. At least that's how BF3/4 were right?

[stone epoch]

Which isn’t too bad, but idk how I feel about locking specialists behind a level gate seeing as they’re replacing classes

[solar tinsel]

It's a fair criticism

Hopefully they will be early in the unlock tree

[stone epoch]

Gear sure lock that away idgaf but roles? Nah that shouldn’t be locked behind exp

[arctic grove]

For the first 4-6 hours in the full game, expect to be working with a reduced array of gadgets for your open gadget slot, with your journey through the ranks slowly introducing new ones for your loadouts. That traditional experience of a Battlefield game, where classes fulfill traditional roles is an experience that you graduate out of through the first ten levels. Your Specialists will have the options to choose from a Medical Crate, Ammo Crate, the Recoilless M5 Launcher, and our Repair tool as starting gadgets, and enable the experience of playing in ways that allow players to feel the benefit of playing in more supportive roles.

[solar tinsel]

Although I will say: the Specialists system may be replacing classes, but they don't necessarily dictate class-type gadgets

[arctic grove]

sounds like a good enough start for me

[dusky blade]

Classes fulfill roles? I thought there are no classes

[solar tinsel]

like the starting gear is Medic Crate, Ammo Crate, Repair Tool, M5 Launcher right?
That's essentially Medic, Support, Engineer, Assault type of playstyles

[arctic grove]

Loadouts are fully customizable. In the Open Beta, we set you up with four loadouts, that mirror that traditional class structure of Assault, Medic, Support, and Recon. They’ll be there at launch too, for all players as default, but there’s actually a much bigger suite of tools available to you to help speed up the act of switching to different setups, and let you get right back into the action.

[solar tinsel]

If you think about it, unlocking Specialists are more like unlocking gadgets and perks

[arctic grove]

class system back i guess

[dusky blade]

Okay this is a bruh moment

“Mirrors the class system”

But I can use a grappling hook with a med kit and assault rifle

How does that mirror the class system ?

[arctic grove]

im guessing they nerfed the shit out of everything lel

[next onyx]

That's pretty much hardline

Operator could run a grappling hook with meds and an AR

[arctic grove]

hardline 2.0 POG

[next onyx]

Infact in hardline we had all kit gadgets

[dusky blade]

Yeah...and hardline is the game considered the worst as there’s no redeeming factors :(

[next onyx]

Yeahhh no

[dusky blade]

What were the redeeming factors of hardline?

[next onyx]

Had more interesting weapons than 4 with a cool class system.

Only thing that sucked about it was its weapon balance.

All kit equipment. Battle rifles for support which were more snipey assault rifles, infact more lethal.

Even though there was a meta, everything was very useful.

[peak socket]

so you are saing 2042 is not gonna be good

[next onyx]

Flood rooms with tear gas, equip a gasmask and you have coughing simulator 2015.

[dusky blade]

I want it to be, but it probably won’t

I at least need to be realistic instead of constantly saying “just wait it’ll be amazing”

[next onyx]

I have hope for launch

[arctic grove]

unless they actually release gameplay of 30 mins we will have to wait to see at launch how balance things are

[dusky blade]

I still dislike BF4 and hardline ALOT, my opinion hasn’t changed on the games I’ve hated, so I doubt it

[nocturne loom]

facts

[next onyx]

ahhh so you're not one sided

[nocturne loom]

"dae think bf2042 was an underrated gem"

[next onyx]

Everyone gave bf5 shit now i see those same people loving it.

[arctic grove]

"bf 2042 best bf ever"

[dusky blade]

I am willing to like games I’ve hated before as long as the right changes are made, and the changes for this game don’t seem to be for the better

[limber garden]

I really hate navin rao lol, i hope he gets unlockable "legendary clown outfit" because that's what he is

[arctic grove]

why u hating on my man

[solar tinsel]

I think it depends on where you look. There's definitely some great positives as far as content offering and modes, weapon customization, and despite the Specialist critique, that means more flexibility in creating builds and loadout combos.

There's definitely some not great things too, but it really comes down to where things land at launch, and how quickly they can provide ongoing support and QoL

[next onyx]

Rao has some really cool utility

[peak socket]

battlefield was never realistic

[dusky blade]

Fair, but the thing that encouraged teammwork in the game was the restricted weapons, as it made you rely on others in situations which you couldn’t handle yourself. That’s been thrown out the window and that part of battlefield seems to be removed, dampening the experience of it as a “battlefield” game

[solar tinsel]

think they were referring to their own belief in the game, not the games realism

[peak socket]

there are flying jeeps, rendezooks

[limber garden]

I had much hope for the character but he looks silly, his face is missing details in comparison to other specialists, it's like dice promised someone "okay we'll have it in game", but didn't really want to do it

[peak socket]

ok so my take on it: it might be buggy at launch, but they will fix it and it will be better than cod

[peak socket]

and he's indian

[dusky blade]

Vanguard bricked my console for 1 day lmao

[solar tinsel]

I actually disagree with that premise a bit. You still need to rely on others. Yes, you can obviously manipulate your weapon a bit to handle some more scenarios.

However there is still no "one loadout fits all" scenario. You may think you're "shaking the balance" by running a sniper rifle with an RPG, but now you're extremely limited in other capacities too. You'll be out of ammo easily and will need to rely on resupply.

[dusky blade]

That is true. But you can’t deny it is now a “one loudout fits most with what you’re going for.” Like how I can built a totally self reliant assault class with an AR, ammo bag and grapple hook. The only thing that’s really missing is the RPG

[arctic grove]

[dusky blade]

[solar tinsel]

I won't deny that, but to that point I'd also call that "being able to pick your playstyle" and if that playstyle is completely lone wolf infantry, that's kind of on them. Teamplay should be valuable, but should it be forced?

[arctic grove]

How did it brick lol mine was smooth

[solar tinsel]

Does a team do better if they have less "lone wolf" loadouts running about? I'd say there's a good chance!

[dusky blade]

Constant visual glitches, screeching sound effects, broken bitboxes and more

Eventually it started lagging, flashed all these colours and my Xbox wouldn’t turn on

[arctic grove]

[solar tinsel]

Cause that MacKay who's off resupplying themselves and repositioning isn't exactly helping out in other ways, unless they are able to flank and help capture objectives, in which case: great! That's that playstyle!

[marble orchid]

Are we getting more gadgets than the last game or less on release?

[arctic grove]

Way more

[dusky blade]

Yeah but again that removes the effect of needing your teammates to help push a point. In games like BFV you sometimes had points which were so reinforced you needed a whole squad to fight through. I did not encounter a single moment like that in 2042

[solar tinsel]

How did you not encounter that on B at all?

[dusky blade]

If I wanted to go B I just wandered in there myself and killed the few people sitting there

Most people I saw were spending their time running around

[solar tinsel]

That seems more like a fault of that team's defense if anything

[dusky blade]

I suppose that’s an issue with map design, but....

[solar tinsel]

true, that is more related to that

I often found B getting crowded though, and unless you got lucky, it'd be very rare to get up there with NO opposition

usually it was the result of a friendly vehicle clearing it out or a squad moving in at least in my experience!

[dusky blade]

I did actually have one match where B was populated

But no one pushed forward, everyone camped on the buildings roof’s

[solar tinsel]

That's on them, then!

[dusky blade]

So it doesn’t really count as helping your team to push forward because they didn’t really kill anyone

Most were actually completely useless and did nothing

[solar tinsel]

right, unless they are some god tier sniper and actually making it easier for ground infantry

but to tie this back in, I don't know how this ties back into specifically class selection: you can't force good teamplay, and you can't instantly make players better

[vital cloud]

can someone /when?

[dusky blade]

Oh yeah I went off topic lmao

[solar tinsel]

I still think teams that work together well, are more likely to suceed

and that there are ways to build unique loadouts in more ways: some folks will use that to make a lone wolf, some might make really cool teamplay builds

I am excited to see that diversity, if anything. Like I wanna play Angel with med kits to have a god-tier support build running

bunker the base down and keep teammates healed and supplied

[dusky blade]

Summary: to me it felt like independent and sparse small battles with no coordination needed because the map was so large

That’s all I have to say :)

[arctic grove]

evil DICE be like

[solar tinsel]

like you said, could be a matter of map design for sure

[dusky blade]

Definitely

[arctic grove]

everyone loves the specialists

[dusky blade]

I have a feeling it’s probably one of the biggest contributors to it, there’s no choke points

[arctic grove]

map wasnt big enough

[solar tinsel]

for what it's worth though, a lot of older BF games had similar: where action was contained to capture points and there wasn't much action in traversal

like to me, Orbital was more reminiscent of some BF2 maps

It definitely wasn't Metro/Locker

[arctic grove]

hopefully we get bigger metro

[signal basin]

BF3/BF4 metro, 128 players

[next onyx]

Orbital wasn't the best map

[dusky blade]

Pls no

[solar tinsel]

I mean, I personally despised those two maps, I'm more of the mindset of wanting more larger maps like Orbital, because I like the action around control points, with traversal in between. Every now and then you get some chance encounters en route and those can be fun

and I like being able to approach control points from multiple directions, to flank, etc.

[signal basin]

I may be able to do 500 players metro on Ravenfield. But that's not enough

[dusky blade]

I just want maps like BFV’s ones, aerodome is my favourite tbh

[arctic grove]

the virgin "the map was just too big it felt like everything was a mess VS chad "map wasnt big enough"

lolll

i agree the medium map size is fucking wicked

[solar tinsel]

I believe Orbital is one of the mid size right?

[arctic grove]

ya

[dusky blade]

It’s the smallest medium map, yeah

[shut sequoia]

Renewal looks good

[marble orchid]

map isn't a problem when the fighting is centered around sector flags

[dusky blade]

Is renewal discarded?

[solar tinsel]

It actually makes me wonder if Orbital would have benefitted from having additional sectors with multiple points

Like I thought the C1/C2 and D1/D2 play was good, because it gave something for the more immediate gameplay

yet you could still ditch those sectors and go to a totally different sector, and get the traditional, more old school BF traversal

[marble orchid]

For orbital, they should've had more flag points for people to spawn on. Many of the times, it was pretty much one flag and sector go bye bye so you had to do a 500 mile job back

[solar tinsel]

Yeah I wonder if B should be B1 on bottom and B2 on top

isn't that how the CQ Small version of that map is?

[marble orchid]

Should've had a sector in the tunnel with flags on opposing sides

one tunnel, three flags. one on each entrance and in the middle

[arctic grove]

orbital gonna be insane in breakthrugh

[marble orchid]

all the maps are

[arctic grove]

tru

[marble orchid]

But there was barely any cover on orbital so I wonder how it'll play

[peak socket]

maybe if the squads have dozer or irish we might get some cover

and did anyone notice the armour in 2042?

they copied warzone and pretty much every BR game

[copper rock]

So now it's going to be a universal thing, legit, whats the problem?

[solar tinsel]

Everyone's copied from everyone at some point ha

[marble orchid]

those are going to be meta picks along with Constantine, and the wall hack lady on more cover based maps

[solar tinsel]

while you CAN add an armor gadget, I like how it can provide teamplay roles... like Angel providing armor

[marble orchid]

wall hack lady will be nearly useless on those large maps

[urban olive]

Every shooter with 3rd person shoulder cam stole it from resident evil 4

[solar tinsel]

there's no way that was the first, ha, was it? Then again, I don't know my video game history

[copper rock]

Those where my thoughts. Probably has a long cool down. Don't think they will make it OP. Probably will end up being the least used one since it wont be all that

[marble orchid]

there's no need if you have a constantine or irish in your squad

[next onyx]

Hope armour won't be too much of a problem

[lavish shadow]

Someone said u can take 2 headshots from a sniper with Armor on

[marble orchid]

It'll be op because wallhacks but it won't be op because it has a set range. basically only a problem on close quarter maps

[solar tinsel]

right, and thats the thing, IConstantine/Angel is a good way to add team play via armor

[marble orchid]

They didn't do it like battlefield 4 so if they keep it how it was in the beta, it'll need reworking

[solar tinsel]

yeah I do think headshots from snipers should still be OHK, armor aside

[marble orchid]

with armor, you can

[solar tinsel]

Could be fixed by increasing headshot multiplier for snipers

[next onyx]

Yeah incred that's a good part

[marble orchid]

headshots shouldn't trigger armor

[lavish shadow]

That's the worst thing I've ever seen in a video game

[next onyx]

Plus you miss out on using a gadget soo

[arctic grove]

See if we were to keep just base 4 specialists in the beta then I would Hate it but for how many there are gonna be team play will definitely show up

[solar tinsel]

or yeah maybe thats the way: if that can be done logistically, headshots go direct to health damage

I dont know how DICE processes health/armor

[lavish shadow]

Sniper headshots should be 1 shot
They're not super easy to use anyways

Plus u have 1 shot before u cock ur gun

Bolt* rather idk gun temrinology lol

[marble orchid]

most people won't be running armor over some other utility since other specialists exist for that reason. We just have to worry about the balance of armor

[urban olive]

ah doubled checked it's probably not the first, but was the game that popularized the concept

[solar tinsel]

ah, some promise of teamplay and relying on other specialists perhaps?

[marble orchid]

I mean, why would you waste a gadget slot when there's an operator's existence that relies on giving you armor

[solar tinsel]

right, and hopefully that encourages folks to use that specialist and use them well to do that

[marble orchid]

of course they'll be teamwork, some of the specialists are built around it

[solar tinsel]

I guess my point is "all is not lost" for teamwork

not saying you said that, but I think it's a common concern or criticism

[marble orchid]

constantine is looking pretty good from what we know, so medics will naturally run him

[solar tinsel]

definitely. Him with a medkit and he is Support through and through

[marble orchid]

Maria though, unless she has infinte ammo or can resupply her gadget with an ammo crate, not many people will play her

[solar tinsel]

I thought her syringe gun had infinite ammo, did it not?

I think, if those buffs wind up being as good as we hope they are, Falck can be a good choice to keep people at full health, so more Medic leaning that Angel

She really comes down to how good that pistol is, and I really believe her revives specifically should be INSTANT

[marble orchid]

eh, anyone can run a medit crate though now and then you can give people armor

[urban olive]

It should be a wind up gun lol ♾️ ammo at least

[solar tinsel]

well it's getting magnetized aiming/projectiles

[peak socket]

syringe gun should be infinite

[marble orchid]

like it should've had in the beginning. they replaced med pouches for that

[solar tinsel]

I think it is, just on a cooldown to resupply itself

[solar tinsel]

100% agree. I'm glad they're changing it

[peak socket]

syring gun is hard to use when healing

[solar tinsel]

It was so hard to use in the beta, you had to literally snipe with it

[urban olive]

Give them a syringe minigun and people will play medic for once

[peak socket]

the players keep moving around

[upbeat swallow]

💯

[marble orchid]

not anymore

[solar tinsel]

since it magnets onto teammates now, then that will help a bunch

[peak socket]

it can damage enemies

[upbeat swallow]

Yeah I like this change

[urban olive]

that's cool

[vestal lichen]

I really hope the new specialist footage is older

[solar tinsel]

It is, at least UI wise

[peak socket]

should there be an in game assisgnment for a rendezook

[urban olive]

Imagine being told you don't aim well enough to be a medic XD

[solar tinsel]

The UI has been changed since that specialist vid was recorded

[stray robin]

Specialists will bring the possibility to play BF2042 with super powers... and everyone has the same chance to do that sooner or later.

[light flint]

Morning battlefield players

[peak socket]

it seems newer, judging from the UI. i think some are from older build and some are newer

[solar tinsel]

I thought the specialist video had the older score feed off to the right? I'd have to go back and watch I suppose

[marble orchid]

I wonder how useful hacker guy is going to be though

[arctic grove]

The question is, how will Angel work in Metro or inside buildings. I mean, isn't his ammo dropped by parachute?

[peak socket]

it had the personal score feed at the center

[urban olive]

Henlo

[marble orchid]

And the ballistic shield didn't have a cooldown period attached to it

[solar tinsel]

His loadout kit is, I believe he can still toss ammo crates if I recall

[pure basin]

I think he’ll be good if u know how to use him

[peak socket]

Loadout drop: time to use my wall hacks

[marble orchid]

I need to know what his hack range is for him to be good

[mossy solar]

Kids finally went to bed I see 😂

[pure basin]

Looked pretty decent from footage I think it’ll be goated on capture points

[solar tinsel]

I was gonna say, holy crap. We've gone hours now with minimal toxicity

[marble orchid]

they're going to be like carepackages in cod

[arctic grove]

Hm?

[solar tinsel]

ON THAT NOTE, I feel like I should leave before that changes ha, night all

[arctic grove]

What happened?

[mossy solar]

Hours? That's a new record

[arctic grove]

And why is there a slow mode? This chat is not that active.

[peak socket]

heck yeah the new changes put em off

[urban olive]

I needed a nap 🤣

[solar tinsel]

Yeah the past few hours have been pretty civil knock on wood only a matter of time I suppose though

And with that I take my leave 😂 have fun ya'll be good to each other

[peak socket]

kk

see ya dead

[vestal lichen]

the frames on Ji-Soo's clips look smoother accompanied with a somewhat updated U.I so yeah

I'd say the other specialists were recorded before the beta trailer

[mossy solar]

Grapple hooks Zipline in reverse is a bit OP, but I guess other things are too. I think it's my favorite, not because it's the best specialist .. but because of how fun it is

I actually killed a poor person with a grapple hook in the beta lmao 🤣

[peak socket]

nice job

[mossy solar]

Took two hits

[urban olive]

Question on the wingsuit will it be more noisy then the chute?

[mossy solar]

You'd think it would be 🤔

[next onyx]

That's a good question

[peak socket]

seems to be more stealthy

[urban olive]

yeah would think it would make a slight flapping sound irl

[hazy vector]

would it matter?

[somber hinge]

wall hack specialist looks pretty op xd

[hazy vector]

it looks like someone drank to much in the board room while coming up with it as a joke

[somber hinge]

10k dislikes on the recent spec video also yikes

[peak socket]

only because of wall hack

[urban olive]

with a headset cranked might hear it coming but tough still I imagine

[peak socket]

it doesn't even actually see through walls. it just gives a red shape of soldiers

[hazy vector]

which is what wallhacking did historically, with sometimes being able to shoot through it

[urban olive]

mixed feelings on the wallhacker one, it looks like a OP recon

[hazy vector]

depending on the game and how well they messed with it

[arctic grove]

we gotta see in game how she actually plays and does she give a sound que when wallhacking

[crimson wasp]

it does light up enemies behind cover

[arctic grove]

dice just needs to release actual gameplay

[peak socket]

exactly what i said. its not even a PROPER wall hack

[arctic grove]

lel

[hazy vector]

that'd be so jaring and a weird "balancing" fix

[crimson wasp]

😄

[pure basin]

Lol

[peak socket]

and its a good way to flush out campers

[arctic grove]

In Rainbow Six Siege Pulse is not op, maybe it could be a solution to use a kind of scanner as a gadget for that. No shooting and "wallhack" at the same time

good to get snipers hiding in corners u cant find

[urban olive]

This worries me I like finding good hiding spots 😿

[peak socket]

or people with knives

[hazy vector]

unless they're across the map

[vestal lichen]

dude you're consuming so much Copium

[proud scarab]

I mean... guys. It’s a battlefield game. I can hear an enemy reloading from around the corner, I doubt we’ll have trouble hearing enemies that are wallhackin with that specialist.

[arctic grove]

[peak socket]

GET IN THE FIELD SOILDER! DO NOT CAMP LIKE A ROOKIE - some commander probably

[arctic grove]

true it does make a noice

[urban olive]

but my KDR

[marble orchid]

It's a battlefield game and yet people aren't calling it a battlefield game

[vestal lichen]

I mean

It's titled as a battlefield game

[arctic grove]

theres battle and there field its battlefield

[peak socket]

it has the battlefield name on it then they say its not bf. haha

[hazy vector]

it's part of the series, just very different

[proud scarab]

So here’s a question. What is a battlefield game? What does it truly mean?

[marble orchid]

I mean, hardline is too

[arctic grove]

its just in future people dont understand specialists represent future military

[peak socket]

large scale combat. vehicles. CHAOS

[hazy vector]

i mean, didn't people go balistic when CoD deviated to the modern times after CoD 4

[arctic grove]

we literally have jetpacks irl in military at least they didnt use that

[proud scarab]

So. What we have here?

[vestal lichen]

But really, it feels like Escape from ValorField: Warzone

[marble orchid]

nah, it was when they started going futuristic with jetpacks

[peak socket]

same thing. just less chaos cos map is so big so no encounters

[proud scarab]

Idk about that

[marble orchid]

They did it for about three games too and people still bought it

[urban olive]

yeah hope the wingsuit has something to fly with a little boost airtank even

[peak socket]

Reject Jetpacks

Return to Wingsuit and Parachute

[proud scarab]

I had MAJOR battles during the beta. Huuuge engagements

[hazy vector]

eh, the big map doesn't have to be an issue if everyone is in the same spot

just don't run to the other side on your own and then then complain there isn't any fighting there

[arctic grove]

ya orbital wasnt an issue there was fight everywhere

[vestal lichen]

I guess it's just that there are some underwhelming empty areas in the map

[proud scarab]

I’m interested to see the EXTRA LARGE maps

[vestal lichen]

Hopefully they're good maps

[hazy vector]

so, orbital?

[peak socket]

Get ready for breakway then

[vestal lichen]

orbital is considered one of the smallest for 2042

[arctic grove]

bigger space means more room for tanks which they increased so no more empty rooms even if there were

[marble orchid]

medium sized map

[proud scarab]

Orbital is a medium sized map 🤣

[copper rock]

Size doesn't matter mmkay

[peak socket]

It's even bigger than El Alamain

[hazy vector]

oh, what was that snow map again?

[urban olive]

lockers edge :p

[hazy vector]

🤢locker

[peak socket]

its breakway

[urban olive]

OP locker 128 player is coming muhahaha

[peak socket]

not yet

[proud scarab]

Listen

[urban olive]

hope soon :/

[hazy vector]

i'll just filter out the locker type maps when i eventually buy the game on a steam sale

'cause it aint looking like it's worth full price currently untill they rebalance and release more content

[proud scarab]

If specialists aren’t your thing, major battles and big maps aren’t your thing, 128 players, or multiplayer or AI fights ARENT YOUR THING, don’t worry. Battlefield 2042 has something for everyone. Be it a long time veteran or a fresh recruit, there’s something for everyone on the battlefield.

[hazy vector]

portal is just going full skyrim special edition /s

[trim surge]

i feel the portal will be a big dissapointment

[serene crown]

portal is dices avenue to remastering classic BF games

[urban olive]

kind of amazed they did it tbh

[trim surge]

we will see how portal will be like when it comes out i still do believe that it will be a dissapointment tho

i hope i am wrong

[serene crown]

really savvy of Dice to do it this way

[hazy vector]

Portal will feel like a lame copout at first is my best guess, untill it will be aproached like a tool by players.

[knotty monolith]

no

[hazy vector]

they won't remaster anything, the players will

[trim surge]

same guess

[tawny tusk]

lol name

[hazy vector]

the players will make their games for them

[serene crown]

if you're a die hard BF players you will love portal

[knotty monolith]

remove specialist lol

[worn whale]

It’s all going to be personal preferences

[tawny tusk]

i liked the class system

[dim pumice]

Except the maps lol

[peak socket]

go away

[worn whale]

For me honestly, I’d go with battlefield 3 only lol

[hardy kestrel]

I hope you are wrong but given DICE's history people would be foolish to bet on them getting it right. I expect it to be riddled with bugs given this is the first foray and that its likely the mode given the least amount of resources.

[serene crown]

specialists and the base game in general is a recruitment tool to lure other gamers over to BF

[arctic grove]

Ugh upgraded to windows 11 n it's so slow rn lmao (first boot)

[tawny tusk]

i heard it's clunky

[arctic grove]

Makes no sense now

[trim surge]

we don't know anything about it yet we will have to wait and see

[peak socket]

guys the toxic players are back

[hardy kestrel]

do you have ryzen?

[hazy vector]

why would you upgrade when it's known to be unfinished and buggy?

[serene crown]

so with portal you're able to build a pure bf3 remaster

[arctic grove]

yeah ryzen 5

[vestal lichen]

I think specialists should stay but be nerfed and co-exist with the main classes

[knotty monolith]

i know, it needs to be delayed

[worn whale]

Damn right, that’s the first thing I’ll do.

[peak socket]

its bf3 modiied by the 2042 engine

[tawny tusk]

especially for working with

[trim surge]

all i know about portal that some of the maps from older games like bf3 bf 1994 and bfc2 will be included

[dim pumice]

New specialists look cool but idk about that wall hack ability

[hazy vector]

only if you utilize the 2042 engine capabilities

[hardy kestrel]

maybe still needs to be updated - there was a ryzen cache bug that has supposedly been fixed I think

[peak socket]

what's the problem with specialists

[hazy vector]

otherwise it's just BF3 with raytracing

[knotty monolith]

i think they should be like heros like in battlefront 2

[serene crown]

ill play your portal server for sure...but im going to build a pure bf42 remaster

[worn whale]

Next thing is modern vs countless 1942, I want 5 modern Russian and US tanks vs 1942 German and US tanks

[hardy kestrel]

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-fixes-for-the-windows-11-bugs-that-were-hurting-amd-ryzen-performance-are-now-live/

[arctic grove]

Ill have to look into it because every app is running slow lmao

[tawny tusk]

same health tho

[hazy vector]

how about not make it a damn hero shooter

[knotty monolith]

yeah, just the peks

[vestal lichen]

It's mostly rooted from the fact that there isn't really any reason to rely on your teammates since you have everything to do things on your own along with the certain specialties being overpowered

[peak socket]

its not a wall hack. its just a patch of red thing which looks like a soilder

[arctic grove]

What about Christmas?😂

[vestal lichen]

That's literally what a wall hack looks like have you not seen it before

[tawny tusk]

i hate the heal lady

[serene crown]

eeventually all classic maaps will be remastered and released through portal...thats the really exiting part

[knotty monolith]

what about next year

[peak socket]

bfv is now repeated right

[arctic grove]

Money?

[desert elbow]

That’s not true since they needed most gadgets to promote team play

[peak socket]

what about dice stops making games and battlefield dies eh?

[hazy vector]

i doubt they'll remaster all maps, just the popular ones

[tawny tusk]

i like bfv

[knotty monolith]

gameplay > money

[proud scarab]

Wait a second. Hold up

[tawny tusk]

i don't get why people don't like it

[hardy kestrel]

No way to determine what is OP until it's actually tested in the field. So many variables to consider plus people have to get acclimated and learn the ropes and gain proficiency with all the gadgets.

[dim pumice]

It's pretty close

[trim surge]

the money the game makes decides it's quality?

[desert elbow]

Good thing the gameplay is great then

[proud scarab]

Anyone notice the lack of Irish in this latest data dump?

[tawny tusk]

loved the classes the most

[trim surge]

whoever thinks like that should work in ea seriously

[desert elbow]

Wdym?

[vestal lichen]

I mean
you can use the ammo for yourself

[peak socket]

irish was already revealed

[serene crown]

well the bf3,bf42, and bad co....might release map packs even

[hazy vector]

and then devide they playerbase and cause screeching?

[serene crown]

the two maps per classic game is just the start

[proud scarab]

Oh yeah lol!

[desert elbow]

Then you won’t be able to carry a launcher

[hazy vector]

can't do map packs, because then people will get their panties in a twist over it not being free

[trim surge]

will dice remove the wallhacker specialist

[proud scarab]

No. Will probably nerf it

[knotty monolith]

no

its like bloodhound

[proud scarab]

Which, it isn’t as bad as what people think it’ll be :/

[hardy kestrel]

Guys, I may or may not be there at launch. No promises k?

[tawny tusk]

i would love paying $60 for half a game

[arctic grove]

I looked and the amd bug still is there and bug fix only for insiders program members but the fix will be updated later so i may be stuck for a small bit should of waited

[hazy vector]

they want it all included, or a battlepass that will always give access to all the stuff before the one you currently bought

[peak socket]

lmao dont like it dont buy it and dont complain as u arent playing it

[vestal lichen]

that's easily fixed if you play as Sundance

[dim pumice]

Don't remove it but it needs nerfed

[knotty monolith]

not any difference

[serene crown]

they are already gonne be divided like im certainly not gonna play the base game...im gonna be a portal player even if i have to buy map packs

[proud scarab]

For Christ’s sakes, we had 3D spotting before... which did the exact same thing lol

[desert elbow]

Not really, we don’t know how much damage it does

[hazy vector]

red dot or full body marker is not the same

[vestal lichen]

It can blow up a smoking helicopter

[hardy kestrel]

Ah my condolences. Hope they roll that out ASAP for you buddy!

[hazy vector]

like you can see what way they're looking and how they're crouching

[proud scarab]

3D spotting in BF 1

[knotty monolith]

and all apex recons

[desert elbow]

It was at around 20 health

[vestal lichen]

it probably does the same amount of damage as a recoilless m5 launcher

[hazy vector]

dunno, didn't play the world war inspired battlefields

[vestal lichen]

wait, it was?
hang on i need to see this

[proud scarab]

Yeah so you missed out.

[arctic grove]

Thanks lol i just wont game to much till then

[hazy vector]

the few matches i played of five and 1 didn't make it feel like it

[vestal lichen]

oh yeah you're right

[serene crown]

bf1942 was the very first 64 player game it was a rock fest in its day

[arctic grove]

So you haven’t played a recent bg game in 5 years lol

[tawny tusk]

why not

[vestal lichen]

you still have bloody 4 of each though so you could grenade spam

[desert elbow]

We just gotta wait and see if it’s fair at launch

[trim surge]

the homing gernade reminds me of the cod gernade in advanced warfare

[arctic grove]

@knotty monolith Battlefield 2042 still has the 4 classes in game they just removed the limitations the classes had in past games

[desert elbow]

Yeah true

[proud scarab]

Unless it hit a critical spot???

[proud scarab]

Then again it was a little bird. No armor and small frame so 🤷‍♂️

[hazy vector]

and right before it hit you see the healthbar being at like 25%

[knotty monolith]

thats the problem, its not balanced

[trim surge]

no limitations

[peak socket]

dont like it dont buy it dont complain about it as you arent buying

[vestal lichen]

Dude you're becoming EA when they sold BFV last year

[trim surge]

encouraging lone wolf kits

[hazy vector]

you now have battle grandma medic, and the dude that does the same as her but with a defib and that can resuply ammo and change loadouts with the crate

[desert elbow]

They are doing the opposite lol

[knotty monolith]

thats the same thing they said with bfv

[proud scarab]

And BF V turned out to be a pretty good damned game

[arctic grove]

But it's true

[vestal lichen]

If you can't manage to appeal your main audience or a new audience what the hell are you gonna gain out of it

[proud scarab]

Despite the haters

[knotty monolith]

yep

[hardy kestrel]

I don't understand why we have to limit ourselves to one specialist. Why can't I have Falck's face, Dozer's torso and Ji-Soo's limbs?

[trim surge]

when you are limited and can't do everything you will have to depend on others and that will encourage teamwork

[knotty monolith]

and the low content at launch

[dim pumice]

It was alright but not good

[peak socket]

they said dont like it dont buy it. i said dont complain about is as you arent buying it and dont know what the game is like

[vestal lichen]

yeah it did like months after launch

[proud scarab]

No it’s good lol

[signal basin]

Hmm

[proud scarab]

Besides. People. Ya gotta remember Covid had an impact :/

[hardy kestrel]

I want an ammo crate with its own wingsuit that also does wall hacks

[arctic grove]

How would we know? The game isnt launched yet? Now if the game launched with the base 4 in the beta i would agree. However with there being 10 at launch the teamplay will come back and we will see how everything works. And when it comes to games. It's very rare for a game to be fully balanced at launch anyways. Months in we will see nerfs and changes to make balancing better but till then I am pretty sure this game will get its meta quick

[desert elbow]

That’s why they nerfed the launcher’s ammo and damage, it will help encourage people carrying ammo crates

[hazy vector]

doubt.jpeg

[pure basin]

Lol

[dim pumice]

Not compared to bf4 and bf1. It had some good parts but as a whole it was just alright

[hazy vector]

why care about others when you can just respawn