battlefield-2042

[hidden sand]

How does that help enemy visibility?

[wide shore]

It doesn’t. But it helps against making everyone look the exact same

[solar tinsel]

They could add details to the uniforms that overwrite skins a bit, like adding a flag patch or a band around the arm

[arctic grove]

in dark areas u cant even see uniform people just will complain anyway

[solar tinsel]

Well that's why it's not an instant solution. Like I said, friendly UI needs to be more prominent up close too

[peak socket]

flag makes sense

[hidden sand]

It may help immersion, but enemy visbility is the main issue.

[arctic grove]

friendly UI is perfect

[peak socket]

but imo the ui doesnt relly need much change

[solar tinsel]

Nothing is perfect in a game haha

[peak socket]

its feels good

[wide shore]

I had more problems with friendly visibility than enemy visibility in the beta

The icons blended way too much

[peak socket]

no problems for me

[arctic grove]

maybe u guys were playing on low settings dats why u couldnt see

[solar tinsel]

Like I said, friendlies who are up close kept their small triangle near them, if I recall, which made them harder to identify

[hidden sand]

UI isnt effected by graphical settings

[peak socket]

How other people see: Uniforms
Me: Dot on people's head then player behaviour

[arctic grove]

dot is quicker reaction

[solar tinsel]

No reason to be dismissive of other people's constructive criticism as to how to improve the game. Just because it didn't impact you doesn't mean it didn't impact others

[arctic grove]

dot is either yes or no

[wide shore]

The enemy dot was a bit too good sometimes.

[peak socket]

i dont understand

[solar tinsel]

Still less prominent than the doritos of old, I found 😉

[arctic grove]

wat r u even saying im not talking shit about anyone

[wide shore]

Like, I could see an enemy through a bush if my gun was aiming at them. Even if I didn’t actually see them

[hidden sand]

I rely on uniforms the most, because in past games they were very distinct.

[solar tinsel]

Fair enough

[arctic grove]

most people played on low settings dats my opinion on why dey couldnt see much

idk how colors changed for sky on low

[hidden sand]

Again, UI is not effected by lower graphical settings

[wide shore]

But, if you get enough complaints about visibility in your last game. Just eliminate hiding entirely.

[arctic grove]

people are talking about sky colors with dots

so sky color must have changed for them on diff settings

[desert elbow]

Not necessarily, in bf5 you could make your character look like the enemy team easily

[hidden sand]

The sky wouldn't change color on a lower setting?

[solar tinsel]

It's because the friendly color tone is generally blue, and the sky is generally blue

[wide shore]

I don’t think that’s how that works

[arctic grove]

its not same blue its diff

[solar tinsel]

The sky is a gradient though, it's not a single color

[arctic grove]

really noticeble

[solar tinsel]

and if it's close enough, it's hard to see

[wide shore]

I played on a Series X. We don’t get to choose graphical settings

[arctic grove]

yes sky is dark dots are lighter

[wide shore]

Pretty sure the resolution was 4K though.

[hidden sand]

Not really? You can't make an American look like a German or Japanese soldier

[arctic grove]

eeryone looks same in bf5

[desert elbow]

You can make a british character look like a german

[wide shore]

That’s not true at all

[peak socket]

thank the dots

[desert elbow]

& Vice versa

[solar tinsel]

Ok, but since you're hearing a lot of people hear stating they've had a hard time with it, you can at least acknowledge that it is something that can be improved by DICE, correct?

[hidden sand]

Got an example?

[wide shore]

What sets?

[peak socket]

correct

[arctic grove]

yes add diff colors to UI for people which was already there

[hidden sand]

Weren't you just speculating? What's making you confident in this suddenly

[solar tinsel]

But changing color blind setting shouldn't be the only way to fix it

[arctic grove]

confident about what that i can see? yes im confident i could see the dots

[wide shore]

You can make british guys look American with the yankee set. (Not sure if that was moved to US only)

[arctic grove]

so change it for everyone even tho for some it was okay and they loved it

[desert elbow]

I'll DM

[hidden sand]

No, the color changes on lower settings

[arctic grove]

they give u option man

[arctic grove]

wat

[peak socket]

well the dot is kind of a bit towards the green. check the EA/Dice role colour. they are somewhat similar. the sky is a pure blue or darker depending on the weather

[hidden sand]

You said the sky color changes on lower graphical settings

[arctic grove]

i didnt say that i said maybe

read again

[wide shore]

The point is. The colors are similar enough, and at close range small enough, that in split second moments it’s hard to see.

With a TTK like 2042, that split second could kill you

[solar tinsel]

And this is not to say we DON'T enjoy the game, but want to see it improve

because, it can be improved

likely, with not too much difficulty either

[hearty kiln]

I ran right by enemies more than once lol especially indoors

[hidden sand]

Same lol

[peak socket]

hmmm yeah could be improved with options for different colours like halo infinite

[wide shore]

Remember, that just because something isn’t an issue for you, doesn’t mean people can’t complain about it.

No such thing as bad criticism.

[hidden sand]

Nah fam, any criticism towards what I like is crying, didn't you know?

[peak socket]

or like dead sync said maybe add an extra detail like a flag patch

[wide shore]

I don’t have an issue with specialists. But I totally understand why people do

[arctic grove]

yes just change color is settings dice gives u the fix

[hearty kiln]

I don't think itll be as much of a problem on release

Only 4 ppl on beta

[arctic grove]

u can make it dark color in settings change it to bf4 colors like u wanted

[solar tinsel]

Same. I get the concern, I do think when we have 10 to choose from, more build diversity will be possible

[wide shore]

I think enough people have spoken out about it to warrant it being changed by default.

[arctic grove]

everyone happy

[arctic grove]

most people prob didnt know they could change it

[wide shore]

Well that is the problem.

[desert elbow]

2042 Will have more variety in terms of characters at release, 4 classes for each team = 8 possible characters in total, 2042 launches with 11 specialists

[arctic grove]

Being gay is gay

its alright someone will make a youtube vid about how to go to settings to change color for those who dont know

we all will be happy

[wide shore]

The average player doesn’t spend x amount of time fiddling in the settings. The UI needs to work for them. Not for players like us who are willing to mess around in the settings

[hidden sand]

Honestly think those are distinct enough, personally. They don't look that similiar to each other. Still easy to tell whos german and whos not imo. @desert elbow

[wide shore]

Everything needs to be readable from the moment you start up the game. If it isn’t, it’s a bad UI choice.

[desert elbow]

The one at 7:20 on the video sent is extremely distinct

[wide shore]

Even if there’s players like us who can change it, or deal with it. There’s a lot of people who don’t/won’t.

[desert elbow]

Would definitely not be able to tell

[arctic grove]

everyone be changing settings i doubt anyone just goes in game and plays on default settings. ex graphic settings which are set to high af for all games

changing volume

voip

keybinds

[wide shore]

Not all players play on PC

You’d be surprised at how many console players don’t mess with their settings at all

[arctic grove]

even controller u can change tose

yes they change sens and shit

[wide shore]

You’re missing my point. You shouldn’t have to mess with settings to make the UI better. It should just be better.

[arctic grove]

i have seen youtube vids already on console 2042 changing settings like keybindings for pilot and

jets

it is better its just the colors u dont agree with

[solar tinsel]

But @arctic grove even with the ability to change color, wouldn't you be in favor of DICE taking steps for improved visibility by default? Certainly you can't be OPPOSED to that right?

[arctic grove]

not everything can be perfect so they give u option to change it

[desert elbow]

I think it's fine, many others think it's fine too

[hidden sand]

Persona 5 is the best example of a UI you absolutely do not need to change, not one bit, for it to work and be readable

[arctic grove]

yes fix visibility for those who cant see add color blind options

[solar tinsel]

I'm not talking about color blindness though, I'm talking about situations of low contrast

[wide shore]

I like the UI. But the friendly colors blend in too much.

[arctic grove]

ez fix we happy

[solar tinsel]

When you have a light blue background close to the light blue dot, and the dot is small

Wouldn't you be in favor of steps to improve visibility?

[hidden sand]

The spawnscreen is objectively bad, I do not believe anyone who thinks that is good. Unless you guys are talking purely about the HUD.

[solar tinsel]

Such as increasing the size or adding more text to nearby friendlies to help further distinguish?

[peak socket]

threat prioritization and teamplay

you dont know who is carrying what

and teamplay is downplayed because of freedom of gadgets

[solar tinsel]

Ironically enough, I think that could be better improved with UI and the addition of the commo rose

[desert elbow]

It's similar to BF4, how is it "Objectively" bad

[desert elbow]

No it isn't

[solar tinsel]

like making "Request Ammo" ping all friendlies carrying ammo nearby

[wide shore]

I know, re-read my post

[peak socket]

i was just stating it for those who didnt know

[solar tinsel]

and we know the commorose is coming back in the full game, thankfully

[wide shore]

I missed it

[peak socket]

you mean request ammo and request medic thing?

[desert elbow]

That's good to hear then

[peak socket]

yeah really missed it a ton

[wide shore]

Hopefully they bring back “sorry”

[peak socket]

and why do we have less ammo

[solar tinsel]

Yeah the commorose is the "wheel" that comes up when you hold spot, it's been around BF since... the beginning? I think? At least BF2

[hearty kiln]

Soflam+sraw=devious lick

[solar tinsel]

Probably to require teamplay with ammo resupply if you want to keep using your gear repeatedly

[peak socket]

BF4 and 3: 6 mags
2042: 3 mags

notice the difference?

[solar tinsel]

I'm sure they can balance out the ammo distribution a bit, but I like that for stuff like rockets

[peak socket]

and this is modern where we can carry more ammo

[wide shore]

I truly hope soflams never come back. Ever

[desert elbow]

That literally encourages teamplay lol

[hearty kiln]

Laser designating will be extremely powerful I hope lol

[hidden sand]

It just looks incredibly unfinished, it doesn't look remotely polished. There's still the issue of many menus to jump through. It feels like they just took blocks, copy pasted them, added text, imported weapon images, called it a day.

It could be so much better. BF4, BFH, BF1, BFV have really good spawnscreens in terms of visuals.

[solar tinsel]

I love the idea of giving rocket launchers only 2 rockets or something and requiring a teammate rocking ammo

[peak socket]

i hope they are coming back i am sick of heli campers at the building

[arctic grove]

[solar tinsel]

I felt jets were a bit underpowered with the cannons, I think increasing the projectile speed of the miniguns could help balance out the helis a bit

[wide shore]

There was this really good AA vehicle called the hellcat

[solar tinsel]

then again, with enough lockons from various sources, you could usually get a heli to back off

[hidden sand]

Uh oh, I criticized something, that's a no no

[peak socket]

thew spawn screen was very detailed. you could see what even the infantry was shooting

[arctic grove]

[solar tinsel]

I agree that the spawn screen needs work, but I also thnik having the main menu loadout option will help a bit too

Being able to set up gear in advance, etc.

[wide shore]

My biggest issue with the spawn screen is having to bumper over to weapons. There was no sub-menu for choosing guns (as I reckon will be at launch) but yuck.

[hidden sand]

The actual map visuals are good, the weapon and specalist selection looks really bad imo.

[peak socket]

somehow the rockets avoid the flares and just hit you

for no reason

like the flares dont exist

[solar tinsel]

haha sometimes, but it could also be a savvy pilot timing their rockets right 🙂

[desert elbow]

Flares always worked for me

[wide shore]

The spawn screen UI doesn’t work well with a controller.

[hidden sand]

Flares were pretty inconsistent for me, but there was also no way to tell if the enemy actually fired or not. Which probably made flares seem worse than they are.

[solar tinsel]

I was wondering if that was intentional or not

[wide shore]

It plays a different sound when the enemy actually fires a shot.

[solar tinsel]

it does seem like the flare recharge time was quicker though

[solar tinsel]

I thought thats only when they achieved lock

[arctic grove]

Just bait them into thinking they’re being locked on & wait until they pop them & shoot them

[wide shore]

No. There’s one for locking, one for firing. That’s how it’s always been

[peak socket]

yeah like earlier a new windows was opned and you were taken to cuzstomiisation

[solar tinsel]

True, for some reason I thought 2042 behaved differently, but come to think of it, not sure why I felt that way

[hidden sand]

It only ever played two sounds for me, locking and full lock

There was nothing on the HUD to tell you it was fired though, which is what I check for in BF4 rather than sound

[wide shore]

I always tossed flares when it beeps really fast. I rarely went down to heatseekers/stingers

[solar tinsel]

Ok looking back at gameplay:

[hearty kiln]

You just had to hug ridgelines and circle buildings

Orbital is nice for chopper pilots

[solar tinsel]

I got the sense that the warnings were for "In process of locking on" and "locked on" only. Mostly because of how consistently the timing was between the two, unless of course people just ALWAYS fired the moment they could.

Plus I also think I connected the yellow color of "locking on" and the red color of "locked on" with the warnings and targeting UI

[wide shore]

Especially with the little bird being better than the attack chopper.

[solar tinsel]

Yeah haha, I think they need to have small arms do slight damage to those little birds to balance it out a bit

Nothing crazy, but just like 0.5 - 1 damage per hit or something

[hidden sand]

The little birds miniguns need to be like BF4, the spread was insane and it didnt match up with the reticle

[wide shore]

I was doing bad things to people with those rocket pods

[desert elbow]

If 2042 had suppression the little bird would be great

Dunno why they got rid of it

[solar tinsel]

Speaking of air vehicles, I suppose there are no 2 player bomber jets in 2042?

[wide shore]

I ain’t even much of a pilot. But since the aim assist was fucked, I hardly wanted to be on the ground.

[solar tinsel]

I didn't really assume there was, but miss those things nonetheless

[wide shore]

I don’t think there is

[hidden sand]

I think it's clear at this point there will only be 2 jets for AOW content at release. They would have shown it off by now, I feel.

[peak socket]

not that we know of

yet

[solar tinsel]

gotcha, thanks all

[peak socket]

maybe post launch

[solar tinsel]

Hope so!

[hidden sand]

It's very unlikely, but hopefully. If they can't provide the same amount of launch vehicles BFV had at lauch I'll be annoyed, honestly lol.

[solar tinsel]

It just seems so right to do that considering 128 player matches

Rather than 2 fighters, I'd take 1 fighter + 1 bomber

[hidden sand]

I'm expecting very little guns and very little vehicles, that way I won't be too disappointed

[peak socket]

or maybe it IS in the game at launch, but not revealed yet

[solar tinsel]

some of the best moments from were me and a buddy calling out enemy jets and rocking TV missiles from the bomber seat

[peak socket]

lmao nice

my best moment is when i get a kill, having trash aim

[hidden sand]

After years I still can't fly jets right in BF2, I dunno how people do it

They're so damn fast and aiming is really difficult, props to the people who slay teams with them lol

[solar tinsel]

I couldn't tell you how I did it back then either, the flying was quite different

I guess I did ok though, I had a 4.78 KDR in jets though, so that's not terrible

[hidden sand]

Damnn

[solar tinsel]

I did find it hard to be successful with the jet in 2042 though, I felt like the AA missiles were my most reliable weapon, which is not a great thing for a jet pilot

before it was all about the miniguns

[hidden sand]

Jets were flat out broken

[solar tinsel]

The slower projectile was definitely strange. For BF1 it worked since everything was a bit slower

but for the speed the air vehicles moved in 2042, the miniguns were tough to aim and didn't do much damage

[peak socket]

why does the screen start going black when i enter a jet

then it turns red

then suddenly back to normal

[solar tinsel]

I'm ok with jets not being god tier lasers against infantry, but I'd love to see them retain their ability to either counter helis well, or be tank busters, depending on the type of jet

[hidden sand]

It felt like BF1 flight physics which was super odd imo
I don't have much hope for improvement because that build is two months old, and physics are very deep into the games core so

[solar tinsel]

yeah Im with ya, but projectile speed and damage could be an easier fix

[peak socket]

flying jeeps in bf4. PHYSICS

[solar tinsel]

Flying felt heavier, but I'm ok with that if the armor or damage output is there to back it up

At best it felt like I'd make a pass, get 2 AA missles off, because strafing with the cannons felt like a waste

again: talking strictly against vehicles here too

BF3 jets could be abused to hell against infantry 😂

[hidden sand]

You can barely pull up, it felt like it was halting the jet at every turn
There's definitely something wrong with the physics, it needs to be like BF4 imo

[arctic grove]

🤷‍♀️ if I get bf2042

[solar tinsel]

I think they've tried to make vehicles have more inertia as a means to balance them - and again, I'm ok with that - as long as they have the armor and firepower to back them up

[solar tinsel]

Previously vehicles could become "super infantry" sometimes, so making the heavier is a good way to reflect their size and weight, but then they need to be imposing, take lots of hits, and deal lots of damage

The jets definitely lacked the most out of all of the vehicles in that way

[hidden sand]

Helis were not heavy remotely imo, that's my issue with them atm

[solar tinsel]

You'd tickle enemy vehicles unless you got a lucky AA lock, and you still couldn't take more than 2 AA rockets usually

[solar tinsel]

Fair point, especially the little bird, so I think that should definitely be able to be damaged by small arms

again: mobility for power

keep the little bird agile as hell, but make it vulnerable

[hidden sand]

Helis were way too damn easy to use and have absolutely no skill ceiling, and less maneuverable

The flight mechanics for them in BF4 were perfect imo

[solar tinsel]

I felt the attack heli flight felt similar enough, but it's been a whle since I played 4 or 3

although come to think of it....

[hidden sand]

My biggest issue is that they have zero momentum, it feels like you're going the exact same speed regardless of where your nose is pointing

[solar tinsel]

maybe we'll be able to choose weapon types for vehicle loadouts?

[solar tinsel]

yeah I noticed that a bit too

I'd love to see momentum ramp up for the attack helis, so after some time you start MOVING< but then it becomes harder to bring it to a slowdown. Again, the tradeoff being it's powerful

[sullen badge]

I do agree that the guns on jets were very hard to use

[hidden sand]

BF Vietnam had some damn good physics, thinking about it now

[opal compass]

[sullen badge]

This

[hidden sand]

DICE has generally always been good with vehicle physics, I think 2042 is the one time vehicles really feel off

[signal basin]

[hidden sand]

They built their company off of it tbf lmfao

[sullen badge]

Not sure about this though

[arctic grove]

Battlefield 5 had ass vehicle physics

[sullen badge]

There is definitely a skill ceiling

[desert elbow]

They were great

[hidden sand]

Tanks were the best in BFV imo

[bleak needle]

It's there any mode which will be free to play in 2042 universe?

[solar tinsel]

Not as of yet, no plans to make anything F2P yet either

[hidden sand]

Planes were kinda eh but ground vehicles were amazing imo

[bleak needle]

Tanks were best in BF2

[arctic grove]

Driving things like jeeps and stuff in bf5 was a nightmare

[bleak needle]

Okay

[sullen badge]

I feel like some of the ground vehicles slide way too much

The Jeep for example

[solar tinsel]

Doesn't mean DICE might change their mind at some point, I could see some potential in making one of the modes like Hazard Zone F2P down the road, and I think it'd be smart of DICE/EA to...

[sullen badge]

Built for offroad yet I hover around the place when used

[solar tinsel]

but for the time being, negative

[solar tinsel]

I felt the same way about BF4 in the beta / early launch days

I wonder if it's a netcode thing

[sullen badge]

Don't think so

[solar tinsel]

eventually it got better in BF4 if I recall

[hidden sand]

I dont want any of their modes to be F2P because if it were to blow up, then I could very easily see them devoting most of their resources to it

[bleak needle]

Okay... Actually Lossy made a video about it but couldn't find anything solid

[sullen badge]

If the Jeep feels like a hover car, what will a hover tank feel like

[solar tinsel]

Well, there are a lot of studios behind 2042, and I believe the intent is to always develop all 3 modes

[bleak needle]

But most of the industry is going F2P

[solar tinsel]

So if one goes F2P and continues to get supported, great. I don't think that means the other 2 will stop getting support

[hidden sand]

Eh no, BRs are free to play, halo is the only major example of a MP going f2p

[solar tinsel]

Especially since the XP/battle pass is shared

[solar tinsel]

I'm pretty sure there are others: Splitgate, Rocket League, Destiny, you name it

[arctic grove]

Ye just look what happened to cod with warzone

[bleak needle]

Yes boss... But Halo is going to explode coz of nostalgia factor.

[solar tinsel]

F2P isn't just BRs anymore

[hidden sand]

Which is why I brought up Halo

[arctic grove]

I get halo for free 😎

[solar tinsel]

True, I suppose that is the BIGGEST as far as IP goes

for non-BR

[bleak needle]

I guess Battlefield Mobile is the F2P

[arctic grove]

Ye

I think so

[solar tinsel]

yeah good point

[arctic grove]

Will 2042 be on game pass ？

[hidden sand]

https://youtu.be/NPJrfwBB_Og

Unrelated, but I think this is better than the official Hourglass theme, personally lol

[arctic grove]

At launch

[solar tinsel]

I know a lot of people give 2042 some flack for being full price, but when you compare what most F2P games get at launch, the content offering 2042 has is pretty substantial. I mean, Apex Legends (to use an example of a same publisher) had 1 map and 1 mode for, how long? A long time right?

And I feel like thats the case for most BRs

[opal compass]

I felt that

[solar tinsel]

1 map for a long time, and then maybe a cosmetic battle pass every so often

[bleak needle]

Agreed

[hidden sand]

Why would anyone give BF2042 flak for being full price with all the content they've promised

[arctic grove]

Fr

[solar tinsel]

I've heard some media reviews are approaching it as "in an era where you can get FPS for free..."

Citing Warzone, Halo, Apex, etc.

that in 2021, a full price MP game isn't viable anymore (I disagree, of course)

[hidden sand]

It's actually hilarious people think a campaign instantly makes a game worth 60 usd when the focus of said game is mp

[solar tinsel]

that too haha

a lot of it is on the lack of SP too

[hidden sand]

BF has never been about campaigns

Even 1942 didnt have a "campaign" it just put you through a conquest playlist

[solar tinsel]

but yeah: 7 new maps + 6 remaster maps + Conquest/Breakthrough + PvEvP + Custom Modes

I mean that's SO much content

By the time you get all that in a F2P game, you've paid for 12 seasons of battle passes

[hidden sand]

Though if theres only 2 tanks and jets at launch I'm gonna be aggrivated honestly lol, BFV is the new standard for the amount of vehicles new bf games should have

[solar tinsel]

Well, we KNOW we haven't seen all vehicles yet

There's the hover tank or whatever from 2142 / BF4 last DLC that was featured in the original trailer

Perhaps the larger maps (and I get the sense Orbital is not one of them), we'll see some more vehicles meant for that, such as other air vehicles, these other tanks, etc.

[peak socket]

there arent any hover tanks

in 2042

[solar tinsel]

Ah, , my bad then, isn't it another tnak though?

that thing on treads, whatever it was

that wasn't the same tank in Orbital was it?

maybe Im just losing my mind, ha. Probably should get some sleep. 😂 cheers all

[arctic grove]

theres one in bf4

[desert elbow]

they were prototypes

[arctic grove]

that means nothing bro

[desert elbow]

They could've been abandoned for many reasons bro

[arctic grove]

bro stfu

[desert elbow]

Relax, I'm literally just explaining something

[arctic grove]

they are apart of bf4's dlc

[desert elbow]

Yes, they were prototypes

[arctic grove]

yet you can use them

[desert elbow]

What is your point

[arctic grove]

bro can you read

[desert elbow]

"There aren't any hover tanks in BF2042"
"Theres one in BF4"

What is your point

[arctic grove]

"There's the hover tank or whatever from 2142 / BF4 last DLC that was featured in the original trailer"

my point is that there are hover tanks in bf4

[desert elbow]

No it wasn't

[arctic grove]

bro stfu and leave this server if you cant read properly

[desert elbow]

Link the trailer

Why don't you leave if you're going to be so aggressive

[copper rock]

Emo is back

[blissful ruin]

What's the matter

[hearty kiln]

Arguing on discord

[blissful ruin]

ye why it doesn't surprises me

[arctic grove]

sucks we dont have friends and we here

[blissful ruin]

Indeed

[arctic grove]

link the trailer? wtf does that mean, did i say there featured in the trailer?

[smoky hatch]

Bf4 good game

[arctic grove]

yes

[blissful ruin]

It is

[arctic grove]

locker and metro best map

[desert elbow]

"There's the hover tank or whatever from 2142 / BF4 last DLC that was featured in the original trailer"
bro

[arctic grove]

and i just quoted from someone else?

[smoky hatch]

What’s best medium range ar In bf4

[slate loom]

[desert elbow]

...bro

[blissful ruin]

And op Dawnbreaker

[arctic grove]

bro what, are you ever going to shut up?

[blissful ruin]

Guess that's a yes

[wide shore]

Sad Fort De Vaux noises

[desert elbow]

Just turn off the app bro

[blissful ruin]

Oh no wait

[arctic grove]

app????? im on pc you dunce

[hidden sand]

Fort De Vaux is the only good meat grinder map imo

[shut sequoia]

[desert elbow]

Fort De Vaux is designed so well

[wide shore]

I like metro. But FDV feels much less like a stagnant fight. Since it’s circular design.

[signal basin]

Jeez, John and Sadie both present.

[wide shore]

Do I need to change my PFP to Orther?

[signal basin]

Lmao.

I did have Sadie from the official book art, but i changed it.

[pure basin]

Need specialist info to come out

[signal basin]

What's else is there to say that they haven't said.

[wide shore]

Sadie is love

[signal basin]

https://tenor.com/view/sadie-adler-red-dead-redemption2-gif-22944636

Indeed.

[wide shore]

I hate that discord doesn’t tell me which emotes I can use without nitro anymore. They’re just all there. Makes me look silly

[signal basin]

It would be gif and external ones.

[pure basin]

If it isn’t in the server u can’t use it ez

[wide shore]

Well, I am in a twitch sub discord. I can use some of their emotes

But not all of them

And I can’t tell which ones I can/can’t use

[signal basin]

They should be greyed out.

[wide shore]

They used to be

But not anymore

[signal basin]

Weird

[pure basin]

Mine are gregey

Greyed

Can’t even click em

[smoky hatch]

OMG FEMALE

[wide shore]

<- I can use that one

[hidden sand]

Rockstar made some ||changes to Johns neck in the epilogue finally and I ||

[signal basin]

Aw

[wide shore]

Maybe there’s an update. Lemme go check the App Store

[signal basin]

[smoky hatch]

Aaaw how cute

[wide shore]

God. That makes me feel bad for Darby every single time

[signal basin]

Lmao

[pure basin]

Is that wwe

[wide shore]

But it’s like a car crash

AEW

[signal basin]

AEW

[pure basin]

What that

[wide shore]

The better wrestling company rn

[signal basin]

[wide shore]

[signal basin]

I'm sorry little one.

[pure basin]

Ah they’re just slightly out of sync

[signal basin]

Shovel time.

[wide shore]

I want to watch Rollins & Edge in HIAC on Thursday. But I also don’t want to support the Saudi show

So it’s like

[smoky hatch]

Does anyone realize fh5 is out

[tame cobalt]

No

[signal basin]

Oh yeah those shows bleh

I haven't bought the network this month lmao.

[tawny tusk]

Really?

[wide shore]

We’re stuck with shitty peacock in the states.

[smoky hatch]

Yeah it kinda got overrun by bf2042

[signal basin]

That's a big oof.

What's FH5

[tawny tusk]

Damn

[wide shore]

Forza Horizon 5

I’m guessing

[signal basin]

Oh

[tawny tusk]

I got a game to buy

[smoky hatch]

Yeah

[tawny tusk]

Cya

[smoky hatch]

Lol

[tame cobalt]

in this chat maybe

[signal basin]

That pfp is disturbing.

[smoky hatch]

I mean from experience it was for me

[wide shore]

I’m not one for racing games, unless it’s 2005 NFS Most Wanted

[signal basin]

I remember playing "Drive" i think, the demo a lot on the ps3 years ago.

[wide shore]

Or Crash Team Racing

I love CTR

[smoky hatch]

Assetto corsa is better

[wide shore]

I don’t even know what that is

[tame cobalt]

Check out Sonic And All Stars Racing Transformed (not sonic team racing). Super fun

[smoky hatch]

Bruh a racing sim

[signal basin]

Lmao

It doesn't sound English.

[smoky hatch]

It’s Italian

[wide shore]

How was I supposed to know

[smoky hatch]

Bruh

[signal basin]

Bruh

I don't know what it is either.

[smoky hatch]

F1 2021 is noice

[tame cobalt]

I don't know what it is either

[smoky hatch]

Female talking to me make me combust into Nagasaki 💥

[signal basin]

Grow up.

[lone wren]

eya all

[wide shore]

I’ll tell you what. Nobody told me GTA Online added a Lamborghini Countach. I had to find out myself through Twitter. That’s some BS

[smoky hatch]

No thx

When

[next onyx]

Knock it off Ura.

[smoky hatch]

Ok sry

[wide shore]

A few updates ago. It’s called the Pegassi Terero

[smoky hatch]

Ooh yeah that’s old

[signal basin]

GTA Online needs to end. Give RDO that treatment and give it content.

[wide shore]

I know. But I had no idea it was a Countach.

[smoky hatch]

I bet they haven’t even started gta 6

[wide shore]

I love the Lamborghini Countach.

[quick epoch]

RDO needs more love from rockstar

[opal compass]

I still love that picture

[wide shore]

I wish.

[signal basin]

I don't even know what the car looks like in GTA.

[quick epoch]

it gets an update every 6 months, such a joke

[smoky hatch]

Every car is a shitty knock off of a real car

[lone wren]

i own a lot of gta online cars i might have it but i have no touched gta online in a while

[signal basin]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-morgan-red-dead-crying-sad-gif-12903356

[patent spade]

https://c.tenor.com/WaEpxWvyIKMAAAAM/rainer-winkler-drachenlord.gif

[wide shore]

I don’t have image perms. But it’s pretty

[hidden sand]

I wish they'd add Mexico to rdr2, they have the layout of it, it just needs detailing and pathing

[signal basin]

Just remake RDR1 in RDR2.

[tame cobalt]

So HZ and portal got sweet new pictures like these, but does AOW have one too?

[wide shore]

Mexico wouldn’t do much if nothing new gets added

[desert elbow]

The terrain is pretty much 1:1 of RDR1's so it wouldn't be too hard to recreate it

[wide shore]

We need online Liars Dice back

[opal compass]

Not that i know off

[hidden sand]

It was planned to be brought back, that's why

[sudden sedge]

What about poland

[next onyx]

AoW?

[sudden sedge]

In portal

[hidden sand]

Such a shame they scrapped it

[lone wren]

i stopped playing red dead online because of the toxic people

[quick epoch]

all out warfare

[tame cobalt]

All out warfare

[opal compass]

All Out Warfare

[desert elbow]

I reckon it's less toxic than gta

[wide shore]

Really? I find it’s much less toxic

[quick epoch]

i wish HZ was more like tarkov than it is

[wide shore]

I get drinks at the saloons with randoms all the time

[quick epoch]

i was extremely excited for that until the trailer premiered

[oblique finch]

22 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes!

[opal compass]

Maybe we get a picture when all the specialits are revealed. Like a big one with all of them in the pic

[hidden sand]

Rdo handles griefers infinitely better with the parry option, too

[lone wren]

well i was only a low level and someon who is a higher level does not let me even go anywhere and shoot me down

[desert elbow]

Well the main difference between Tarkov and Hunt is that Hunt isn't based much around looting

[wide shore]

Every game has a few assholes.

[tame cobalt]

Golden waffle hunt

[wide shore]

Get the waffles. Get out

[lone wren]

i was lucky in gta online to find some good passive lobbies with passive modders

[quick epoch]

don’t we get a trailer for the new specialists later this week or smtn?

[next onyx]

You know

[sudden sedge]

Honestly I think BF portal will carry a 50% of battlefield 2042

[smoky hatch]

Can someone tell me why I’ve been banned from 3 bf4 servers and I’m only a level 10

[opal compass]

Yes

[next onyx]

For a second there i thought irish was edited to have the cursed cat smile

[wide shore]

I never get lucky with randoms on GTAP

[desert elbow]

Tbh Tarkov would be hard to recreate more casually

[hidden sand]

Everytime I see the days left till BF2042 I just dread how time is going so quick, rather than be hyped for the game

[tame cobalt]

Cool

[quick epoch]

i thought it would’ve been extremely cool

i would’ve played the shit out of it

[opal compass]

Thats a brilliant idea. @still vault

[lone wren]

plus i aggressively kill the sweaty toxic players

[quick epoch]

now HZ seems like the worst option out of the 3 game modes

[hidden sand]

Can't believe this year is almost over

[next onyx]

OH NO

[desert elbow]

I disagree, it's niche

[lone wren]

whats wrong

[wide shore]

I don’t even bother in GTA. I can do it in RDR. But not in GTA

[sudden sedge]

They need to delay it, because the majority of problems haven't been fixed so maybe battlefield 2042 for december 10 may be good

[lone wren]

well what do you think of the gta remakes coming

[next onyx]

I've inspired something horrible

[wide shore]

PVP in rockstar games make me wanna lay on some dynamite.

[desert elbow]

How do you know they haven't been fixed?

[wide shore]

Unbelievably stoked.

[quick epoch]

they said they fixed a lot of the problems earlier this week

it’ll be a bad launch…like every other BF before it

[oblique finch]

I wonder if we will get maps with different times. like a night time orbital

[quick epoch]

that’s the DICE way

[signal basin]

Hmm

[wide shore]

Can I come look through your crystal ball?

[lone wren]

i am glad that rockstar is finally doing something other than gta online

[wide shore]

They released the best game ever made just 3 years ago

[hidden sand]

The fact UI changes won't be at launch does have me kind of concerned. We'll be getting the same UI from the beta until a few weeks after launch, iirc.

[signal basin]

The game does probably need another delay.

[lone wren]

rdr2 on what i know had a amazing story

[quick epoch]

i highly doubt they’ll delay it again

[signal basin]

RDR2 really is.

[wide shore]

I’ve learned my lesson saying a game isn’t gonna be delayed.

[sudden sedge]

Honestly you got me, I just kindq ignored a some tweets and updates bcs I dont have the blue bird and haven't been paying that much attention

[wide shore]

Every time I say it. It gets delayed.

[sudden sedge]

Oh great

[hidden sand]

They're not delaying it again, they won't miss out on the black friday and christmas money.

[desert elbow]

Ah all good

[quick epoch]

it’s DICE, they’ll j have a bad launch

it’ll be terrible for a month

[signal basin]

Where's your faith.

[wide shore]

That’s what I thought. But then it got delayed.

[next onyx]

There's gonna be some other annoying shit in launch for sure

[quick epoch]

then somewhat playable for 9 months until they fixed everything

the beta didn’t really help them because it was so limited in feedback and what they gave us

[sudden sedge]

Yeah just like that

[hidden sand]

I have full faith Portal will be functioning at launch purely because DICE L.A. are the ones working on it.

[wide shore]

Then they’ll change the meta for no reason. And then fall back.

[quick epoch]

one map, one mode, other maps will have problems and same w other weapons

and i somehow still payed 90 dollars for a preorder knowing i won’t play it for a while after the first day

[sudden sedge]

Pretty much all bf betas have been awful and dice stopped the fire quickly I just hope they stop it now

[hidden sand]

BF1 and BFV betas were not awful imo

[wide shore]

Agreed

[quick epoch]

once they fix everything though, i think it’ll be a really good game

[lone wren]

bf1 is actually good

[sudden sedge]

Im talking about the 3 and 4

[quick epoch]

and will bring back a lot of old players

[wide shore]

I remember people falling under the map in the park during the BF3 beta

[next onyx]

There'll be a patch for when the game officially releases.

[eternal narwhal]

yeah ofc

[quick epoch]

well yeah but there’ll be major problems throughout the first couple of months

[sudden sedge]

Honestly I wished they added bf1 to portal and added fort veux and the suez canal map, but cant blame em cause that will take much longer

[quick epoch]

hopefully it isn’t as bad as BF4’s launch

[hidden sand]

BF1 had functioning, and multiple, consistent takedowns, in fact, everything was functioning and reflected the final release in terms of gameplay, too. Just like every beta BF has done.
Even though BF1 had less devs, less time.

Yet two months ago BF2042 was in that state lol. I'm not saying "2042 bad" but man I am worried about the launch of this game.

[quick epoch]

i think it’ll be an amazing game after the launch problems are all sorted out

[eternal narwhal]

i reckon it shouldnt be something to be worried about, i reckon itll be fine.

[desert elbow]

I feel like they are going the cod route with paid takedowns, since we can only do one right now

[quick epoch]

i believe it’ll bring back a ton of old time players

[desert elbow]

Which I’m annoyed by since I would go out of my way to knife the enemy just for the first person animations

[quick epoch]

and portal has a lot of people wanting to buy it already

[sudden sedge]

Oh man the CoD takedowns are just straght up bad

They ruin the game like that imo

[hidden sand]

First person takedowns absolutely need to be brought back.

[sudden sedge]

agreed

[desert elbow]

So true, they are like destruction in battlefield games, you can’t take them away

[tribal wyvern]

I don't think there's much of a point arguing whwt should be changed/removed/how launch'll be etc

[lone wren]

i only wished that bf1 had more content more maps to go on etc

[delicate hollow]

i never get knife kills anyways, so the animations dont matter to me

[tribal wyvern]

They're changing nothing, they're in hardening mode, all they're doing is bug fixing

There is no way thry will change anything core gameplay related as of now

And you cannot predict how launch will go

[sudden sedge]

Honestly im more hyped for bf portal cause the memories of playing 1942 on my ps3 back then

[hidden sand]

3rd person takedowns are quite literally just to appeal to cod players. You could monetize first person takedowns just as much.

[desert elbow]

That’s wrong since they have announced 11 specialists at launch

[tribal wyvern]

1942 was pc only

[next onyx]

11? Don't you mean 10

[slow kraken]

BF1 was just the best BF launch we have had in a long time

[sudden sedge]

What?

[desert elbow]

Including Irish who was announced later

[tribal wyvern]

That isn't a change, thag was always planned

[next onyx]

He's the fifth one in the line up

[ripe hedge]

why would we do that?

[desert elbow]

Ohhhhh my bad then

[desert elbow]

Yes but they aren’t in the beta

[lone wren]

hi Alex how re you

are

[tribal wyvern]

There is no reason to predict hoe launch will go guys

[next onyx]

Remember 5.2/.2, Alex?

[hidden sand]

Because you guys did it in BFV LOL

[sudden sedge]

I remember playing 1942 on a ps3? Eh most have been just a dream or a burning memory

[tribal wyvern]

They ain't changing anything from what was planned, they're bug fixing

[ripe hedge]

Doing fine thank you, how about you?

[next onyx]

He wasn't part of the team round then Suika

Or that part

[wide shore]

Well, it happened in BF1 and BFV.

[slow kraken]

That would of been 1943

[quick epoch]

also, will PC folks get to play w last gen console players if they wanted to?

[tribal wyvern]

You can start expecting changes post launch but not at launch

[hidden sand]

Ah, makes since
Past DICE did it in BFV**

[sudden sedge]

Oooooooh yeah now I remember yeah

[lone wren]

i am well thxs other than having a chaotic evening where i spilt my coca cola all over the floor under my desk on my pc my clothing etc

[tribal wyvern]

So that's it, trying yo predict launch or adking for changes at launch is meaningless

[sudden sedge]

Thanks for the quick summaration

[tribal wyvern]

Just wait it out

[desert elbow]

Well there have always been changes between beta and launches in the past for battlefield

[next onyx]

But you're predicting launch as well cause you said there'll be no gameplay changes

[tribal wyvern]

Yeah, bug wise, core gameplay didn't change

[next onyx]

When they've literally already announced them, Like with movement.

[ripe hedge]

Well, i wasnt on those launches 🙂

[next onyx]

No midway meta change at least

[arctic grove]

hey whos exitted for 2044

[peak socket]

i am back

[next onyx]

For the love of god don't you guys do that again

[desert elbow]

BF5 gunplay was completely changed, rocket launchers were redone too

[slow kraken]

The only thing they need to 100% have sorted for launch is the shitty optimization we seen in the beta. If the game launches like that then no one will stick around

[peak socket]

i meant 2042

[wide shore]

I know! I was mostly joking.

[tribal wyvern]

Didn't say no gameplay changes from beta, just thry're not gonna add any more changes right now, just the ones they already did

[next onyx]

My point stands

[peak socket]

hey alex

[hidden sand]

The fact you questioned why you'd even do that gives me hope it won't happen again, ty 👌

[sudden sedge]

Ye I everybody will just play hazard zone or portal

[tribal wyvern]

Just wait it out

[ripe hedge]

[next onyx]

Also, Alex. You guys have to add the Tavor 21

[peak socket]

how's making 2042 going

[slow kraken]

If the optimization is shit it will probably be shit across all modes though that's why it should be a number 1 fix

[tribal wyvern]

That's being sorted

[slow kraken]

I'd hope so

[sudden sedge]

O god its true

Shit

[lone wren]

how i like to play my bf1 games mainly bf1 is to do accurate loadouts

[slow kraken]

I don't want a BF4 Launch Part 2

[tame cobalt]

[wide shore]

I try to coordinate my guns based on factions as well

[ripe hedge]

We were very happy with the TTK on the BETA. Sure some tweaks are required, and there are some knobs here and there that will move post-launch, but we dont feel Soldier Vs Soldier TTK needs a dramatic change. The feedback was generally positive on TTK

[peak socket]

how do i improve my trash aim without hacks

[sudden sedge]

Me too but overall I just do old memes like c4 on car and other stuff as well

[next onyx]

The issue is Alex is that people were happy with 5's ttk yet they changed it

[tribal wyvern]

That's a very pessimistic expectation

[slow kraken]

2042 TTK was good imo. Felt nice

[tribal wyvern]

Ehy does this server act like it can either launch like bf4 or launch perfectly?

[eternal valley]

People are never happy

[hybrid steppe]

Yeah the ttk was great, overall the gunplay felt really nice, only thing I'd say is that balance the M5A3 a little bit

[wide shore]

I thought the TTK was solid. But the aim assist was all wonky in the beta.

[tame cobalt]

"some tweaks are required"... Looks at shotgun

[wide shore]

The M5A3 was basically a laser.

[next onyx]

The 5.2 patch was one of the things i actually agreed with - with reddit on. And i don't usually agree with what the rands in there say.

[slow kraken]

We are just passionate about the series dude and don't want to see it go downhill. Stop

[lone wren]

yeah thats what i do

[next onyx]

When you've been using the m5 for a while. The AK24 is just lethal.

[wide shore]

Samesies

[hidden sand]

Lol no, this was one of the most valid complaints in BFV.
It was awful, they promised they wouldn't change it after they fixed it, and then they changed it lol.

[tribal wyvern]

Butbyou're expecting either the worst of the worst or the best of the best

[peak socket]

and the K30 is god

[next onyx]

Yeah I think it's why Sirland left, Suika.

[sudden sedge]

I mean it will go down someday but not soon

[slow kraken]

I'm not expecting the worst or the best. I think it will be a rough launch but I think it will still be fun

[eternal valley]

What if the world ends before 2042 releases

[wide shore]

I actually really liked using the AK24 in the beta. But having to switch my attachments every time I died drove me nuts.

[crimson wasp]

Wait, there were other weapons than the M5A4 in the beta?

[sudden sedge]

Lmao

[tribal wyvern]

Why did you say you don't want bf4 launch part 2 like you're expecting it then?

[hybrid steppe]

[peak socket]

did anyone notice that there were very few guns in the beta?

fewer than BFV

[next onyx]

Hess, Use the m5 for a while and then switch to the AK

That thing literally murders people at range

[hidden sand]

Do you design Tanks as well, Alex?

[ripe hedge]

The revolver 😏

[crimson wasp]

True!

[sudden sedge]

Dude calm down we know youre bored but no reason to talk shit at someone

[next onyx]

Issue about the AK is that it's got too much spread

[wide shore]

I gotta say. I love what y’all are doing with the reload animations.

They’re very satisfying.

[peak socket]

hey alex. are you making a test range or will we do training through solo mode?

[next onyx]

Actually side thing, The ak24 reloads so much faster than the m5

[wide shore]

That’s true

[next onyx]

"Wow it's already in the gun?"

[wide shore]

Better iron sights too

[ripe hedge]

Unfortunately not 🙂 I love vehicle combat

[hybrid steppe]

Was there a particular reason you decided to make the revolver's hammer manual and not automatic?

[tribal wyvern]

"talk shit"? "Calm down"? I'm not talking shit nor am i nervous

????????

[wide shore]

And your character C grips the AK24, which is sweet.

[next onyx]

I can submit a theory

[desert elbow]

I prefer the manual hammer tbh

[next onyx]

Basically, If they make the fire rate slow. May as well add an animation to tell the person its ready to fire

[lone wren]

i loved the K30

[sudden sedge]

Ok
I dont know man you tell me

[wide shore]

Single action revolvers make me feel like a cowboy

I’m here for it

[eternal valley]

Would love one

[hybrid steppe]

BIG IRON ON HIS HIP

[eternal valley]

good way to test weapons and vehicles

[wide shore]

If only I could keep the peacekeeper with me forever.

[hidden sand]

Rip 😔
I absolutely love that the vehicle designers kept the input delay from BFV, makes the tanks feel so much more real and weighty

[next onyx]

Yeah no input delay is just bad

[sudden sedge]

Alex, are you guys going to add the secret reload animation?

[wide shore]

Also prevents PC players from demolishing console players tanks

[next onyx]

You can make tanks weighty but not add a delay

What's the point of an input delay if zooming in gets rid of it

[wide shore]

If they tell you, then it won’t be a secret

[peak socket]

and an INTERACTIBLE test range. not like bf4 where i had to learn it all myself. new engine, new controls. so a tutorial in the test range would be good

[ripe hedge]

Well without delving too much into detail, we wanted the Revolver to be this "mini-bolt action-sniper" experience. If you carry a short range weapon (i.e shotguns) you need a good sidearm to compensate. Plus there is people that really REALLY like sniping. So having a sidearm for that niche felt natural 🙂

[sudden sedge]

Oh shit youre right

[opal compass]

Meres Leg 40x scope

[hybrid steppe]

I see. Yeah that makes sense, thanks for the answer. 👍

[wide shore]

I’m looking forward to seeing other sidearms. Specifically their animations.

[peak socket]

what about a phantom program, seeing as this is the cannon sequel to bf4

[next onyx]

That being said, It's just weird that is has higher velocities than snipers.

[ripe hedge]

Like this?

[next onyx]

Is that an m1911?

[opal compass]

Hahaha. Almost :D

[wide shore]

I just want to see the XM8

[crimson wasp]

beta is over and i reported how reproduce and do this glitch so im going to flex with it now
https://streamable.com/blf4lz

please enjoy

[peak socket]

no where even close

[next onyx]

Oh yeah I showed my friends that

[hidden sand]

Happen to know if the tanks we saw in the beta will be the only two at launch for all out warfare, alex?

[ripe hedge]

Tactical Repositioning

[wide shore]

Well, if I was that guy you shot. I’d be upset

[tribal wyvern]

They already confirmed they're 8, not 4

[crimson wasp]

it's a classic glitch from Battlefield 3 and 4

[tribal wyvern]

Oh you mean tank types?

[ripe hedge]

I cant talk for anything that is not my discipline 🙂

Cant/Shouldnt

[hidden sand]

Completely fair 👌

[crimson wasp]

the funny thing is my body was in that corner the whole time

[hidden sand]

Thanks for responding anyway

[crimson wasp]

guy could have just shot me

and i would have died

[wide shore]

Oh?

[opal compass]

https://youtu.be/qKj-InlmiRY

[next onyx]

Honestly wtf were they looking at

[wide shore]

I’ve never seen that done before

[opal compass]

That

[peak socket]

Bot?

[crimson wasp]

🤷‍♂️ according to their ingame name, it wasn't a bot

[hidden sand]

Really hoping we get some mention of the other vehicles before launch if there are any

[peak socket]

so maybe he was sniping

and didnt notice

[crimson wasp]

probably aiming to the other side in the hangar 😄

didn't just pay attention to the dark corner

[eternal valley]

That glitch is so fun

[sudden sedge]

Yeah like MAYBE just MAYBE we will get boats

[smoky hatch]

>>

[somber hinge]

how'd you even do it just jump out while midair in a vehicle?

[eternal valley]

no real water maps

[sudden sedge]

Sadge

[crimson wasp]

it's a bit more complicated than that, the jump was just for ✨ cinematic effect ✨

[sudden sedge]

But maybe in the future

[wide shore]

I just hope there’ll be bipods

How can I be a good Boris without a bipod

[somber hinge]

did anyone test c5 under vehicles aswell do they still launch or did they ruin the fun?

[eternal valley]

buggy

[hidden sand]

They tend to bug out when you do it

[eternal valley]

Orbital had a lot of water but no boats

[somber hinge]

sad loved being launched across the entire map with c4 xd

[eternal valley]

Breakaway might tho

[somber hinge]

hope they "fix" it and put it back in

[sudden sedge]

Nice

[wide shore]

Considering it is in the portal trailer though, I’d reckon it’s not purposely buggy

[eternal valley]

Although boats might be replaced by hovercraft

since they can water

[sudden sedge]

Ye that true

[arctic grove]

Will be there more info about: hazard zone? Like gameplay?

[eternal valley]

its an extraction gamemode

[hidden sand]

It kinda blows me away naval combat isnt in the game at launch ngl but oh well

[eternal valley]

Its pretty self explantory

I dont think we need a gameplay trailer

Since we just get the normal gameplay trailer + extraction

[white geyser]

collect 3 data, battle against other players, and get out immediately

Hazard zone

[eternal valley]

yea

pretty easy to imagine

[arctic grove]

Guys... I think BF 2042 is going to be a good game.

[eternal valley]

true

[sudden sedge]

Honestly cant wait for 1944 german panthers/tigers vs m1abrams

[hidden sand]

Fuck yeah

[ripe hedge]

What a coincidence

[hidden sand]

Portal is absolutely legendary if all goes well for it at launch

[arctic grove]

Im really curious what hazard zone is gonna be like I think it'll be pretty fun

[eternal valley]

futuristic fighter jet vs propeller plane 😎

[bitter rain]

i just want them to release bf2042 now and patch it later

[hidden sand]

Which I have way more hope it will since It's DICE L.A.

[hybrid steppe]

*Ripple effect

[sudden sedge]

Absolutely, almost every bf youtube will get there hands on portal content

[eternal valley]

When they release new maps for base game

Im sure they will for portal aswell

[hidden sand]

I'm aware, just easier to say DICE L.A. since the Ripple Effect name isn't as known atm

[eternal valley]

which is cool

[sudden sedge]

Honestly will love to see heliopters vs airplanes will be dope

[bitter rain]

hows portal suppose to work anyhow? is it just the whole old games with bf2042 mechanics and visuals or is it like a combo playlist with weapons and maps from old games

[tame wraith]

Did motive also work on this game ?

[sudden sedge]

Good question

[hidden sand]

I'm so glad they brought back offline play with bots lol, last game to have that was 2142

[lone wren]

i found a physical copy of 2142

didnt buy it

[desert elbow]

So true

[hidden sand]

I'm pretty much only gonna be playing with bots lol

[lone wren]

i mean i played with bots on bf2

[sudden sedge]

Anyone here still plays bf1

[lone wren]

yes

[eternal valley]

You get the 6 maps (plus the 7 from the base game) from 3 previous games as well as vehicles, gadgets, weapons, classes and more from them. You can use any combinations of these and modify the game rules to create what ever you want pretty much.

[hidden sand]

Yes

[marble orchid]

It's going to be s fun game for sure

[sudden sedge]

Nice

[sudden sedge]

Goos

[real ether]

[sudden sedge]

It was a beatiful game

[lone wren]

i been starting to use the horse in bf1

[tame wraith]

Ofc

[tame wraith]

*is and always will be

[peak socket]

breakway will have mostly ice and very little water

[marble orchid]

More people play bf1 than 4 I believe

[hidden sand]

What BF trailer (not just reveal trailers, any of them)as a whole do you guys think is the best one?

[sudden sedge]

Shame its playerbase disapeared on its first 1-2 years

[marble orchid]

Kinda funny

[tame wraith]

Better than 2042

[peak socket]

reveal and portal

[marble orchid]

1

[peak socket]

gameplay barely had anything

[tame wraith]

I still find decent no. Of full servers

[eternal valley]

To one side of the map there is an oil rig and tons of water

[desert elbow]

I really wish hardline and bf3 had bots, both phenomenal games which can’t be played to the fullest since they don’t have much of a player base

[tame wraith]

1

[desert elbow]

At least people are making a bc2 bot mod

[eternal valley]

No it didnt?

It had tons of info

[slow kraken]

Because I don't want that to happen. It may be like that it may not. No one knows until we get to the actual launch.

[peak socket]

and the devs said they wont be focusing on naval warfare

[hidden sand]

Personally, it's a battle between the pacific trailer and BF1 reveal trailer for me lol

They re both so good

[eternal valley]

about the actual game

[marble orchid]

Playerbase is still alive for the most popular mode

[sudden sedge]

1 obviosly

[tame wraith]

Bf1 had the best trailer, best launch, best beta

[slow kraken]

Yeah

[sudden sedge]

agreed

[dark sandal]

guys wish me luck

[peak socket]

like any ACTUAL gameplay such as the sectors the abilities etc.

[dark sandal]

i have arrived at the endless eight

[marble orchid]

Will there be much of a point if portal is good?

[peak socket]

it contaned so little

[sudden sedge]

yeah

[eternal valley]

its a gameplay trailer

to show gameplay

[lone wren]

on bf1 i do have the Coupe Coupe

[marble orchid]

It was still very buggy

[desert elbow]

Eh maybe since it will have more maps than portal, but rest assured portal will still be amazing

[peak socket]

well portal will basically be old games new engine

[tame cobalt]

Kaleidoscope will have some water vehicles... I know for sure it will have jetskis

[tame wraith]

I think they are mostly going to port over assets from bfv for 1942 but with the new remastered maps

[tame wraith]

And 2042 isn't ?

[peak socket]

less than 3 minutes. generally it is 5 or even 8 minutes thing.

[sudden sedge]

it will eventually become the only thing every battlefield youtuber, and it will become the center of focus

[peak socket]

not much action

[tame wraith]

2042 is worse than BF4 on bugs

[marble orchid]

All battlefield games are/were

[wooden smelt]

@iron tendon

[next onyx]

Honestly it really depends how they deal with portal

[desert elbow]

Definitely not

[iron tendon]

Wot

[tame cobalt]

I imagine breakthrough on kaleidoscope starts with an amphibious attack

[peak socket]

128 players larger map and portal along with hazard zone? im suprised. then again, old is gold

[wooden smelt]

Nothing

[tame wraith]

All games are lol, but the point is this 2042 beta felt more like a pre alpha

[marble orchid]

If hazard zone hits, that could form a decent playbase

[desert elbow]

It’s a 3 month old build

[peak socket]

you should have seen the tech test gamepla then

[marble orchid]

Give programmers freedom to do almost anything and it'll be great

[next onyx]

Yeah i'm not holding my money that Hazard zone'll remain alive here in OCE.

[white geyser]

Depending which game mode in BF 2042 I want to play, I'll probably barely play the multiplayer or the hazard zone not only I want to chill and vibe in PvE (co-op mode), but I also want to level up faster just like in star wars battlefront 2 co-op and titanfall 2

[marble orchid]

Battlefield 1s beta was still very very buggy

[tame wraith]

Doesn't matter if they wanted genuine player feedback why not release the beta three months ago

[dark sandal]

i will laugh if hazard zone will suffer the same fate as firestorm

[sudden sedge]

oh yeah man, problem is that thing will be out of control

[tame wraith]

Look at halo infinite that's how you do techinal tests and betas

[marble orchid]

Not many things live in Oceania

[marble orchid]

That's a good thing

[desert elbow]

I don’t work for dice lol, ask them

[tame wraith]

Imo it most probably will because it isn't f2p

[peak socket]

i will feel smug when hazard zone dies. as i will be correct

[next onyx]

Lol. But you know, Since you have to pay to play Hazard zone i'm not going to be surprised if it dies

[sudden sedge]

im talking stuff like third kill cam and other stuff you get what I mean

[dark sandal]

they are committing the same mistake as firestorm

[slow kraken]

Yeah Halo's tech test was really good but to be fair they have had 6 years to make that game

[dark sandal]

such a game mode will die quickly

do they not learn

[slow kraken]

EA never seems to learn tbh

[sudden sedge]

you mean portal

nah

[marble orchid]

They're definitely removing kill cam in portal servers

[dark sandal]

they saw what happened with firestorm

[eternal valley]

??

[tame wraith]

Absolutely but the method of conducting play tests is what I'm talking about here

[sudden sedge]

oh thank godness

[white geyser]

Hazard zone better be good, if I start playing it in hazard zone and not only people comparing to escape from tarkov, but it could also be like Tom Clancy's division dark zone

[marble orchid]

If hazard zone goes free to play next year, it has a chance

[tame cobalt]

they made it up

[dark sandal]

hazard zone will be doa

[tame wraith]

They ignored battlefront 2, squadrons for battlefield 2042 and now look

[sudden sedge]

o fuck

[hidden sand]

2 months old, actually.
All BF betas are this old. The age of it doesn't reflect anything except for bug fixes and balancing.

[marble orchid]

Firestorm is different

[desert elbow]

It’s not very similar to tarkov exception for extractions

[dusky blade]

THey 100% did not ignore SWBF2

The devs even seemed upset when being forced to leave it

[dark sandal]

halo infinite is gonna be f2p, so is warzone

bf is making a big mistake

[eternal valley]

I dont even care

[tame wraith]

That's called ignoring it whether forced to/willingly

[next onyx]

It'll certainly would.

[sudden sedge]

what do you mean by that

[dark sandal]

halo infinite is f2p

when it comes out

[marble orchid]

He wants free game

[tame wraith]

Hazard zone has to be f2p

[sudden sedge]

oh i see

[dark sandal]

they are just shooting themselves in the foot

[sudden sedge]

yeah that will never happen

[dusky blade]

The community manager even made a sad post about it lmao

Saying how the years from 2017 to 2020 were some of the best

[slow kraken]

Yeah imo HZ should of been F2P. Once WZ gets the new update with new guns and maps then I feel everyone will head over to that and HZ will be left in the dust

[tame wraith]

Absolutely

[eternal valley]

halo inf is free

[dark sandal]

more like i want competition

[marble orchid]

It doesn't have to

[tame cobalt]

Doesn't make sense to make almost all content in a full priced game f2p

[dark sandal]

i didnt ask for them to make bf2042 as a whole f2p

[eternal valley]

it will probably happen in a year-ish after release

[dark sandal]

all i want is for hazard zone to stand a chance

[marble orchid]

There is competition, you just want a free game

[tame wraith]

I know im part of that community, it's sad how the game has been through so much

[eternal valley]

no they dont

[sudden sedge]

yeah we all just want to have fun anyways but I get your point

[dark sandal]

how is there competition when hazard zone is p2p

[tame cobalt]

Hazard zone uses almost all content of the full priced 2042

[hidden sand]

I think the fact BF1 had less dev time and less devs and its beta was still more polished than this is what concerns me the most lol.

[eternal valley]

so does warzone

[tame cobalt]

Not maps

[tame wraith]

They are AAA game production company what do you think there main aim is

[eternal valley]

warzone uses content from cold war and mw2019

[dark sandal]

that is very concerning thats what i have been saying all along

[eternal valley]

lmao

[tame cobalt]

Not maps

[dark sandal]

this doesnt look good lmao

[eternal valley]

so?

[dusky blade]

It’s not like every game nowadays needs to have a f2p portion anyway

[tame wraith]

Me too

[marble orchid]

To make money, which they're doing

[sudden sedge]

for you it doesnt

[dark sandal]

look at the facts

[dusky blade]

Oh god I remember the BF1 bugs

[sudden sedge]

but no need to get fire in here

[dusky blade]

Every match...

[dark sandal]

bf1 had less dev time and less devs

[eternal valley]

but hz will most likely become free a year after release

Since it will die quickly

[dark sandal]

yet the game was surprisingly polished at release and the open beta was really good

[tame cobalt]

Making all the maps and weapons of a full priced multiplayer-only game f2p would make the full game seem like a ripoff

[dark sandal]

and the game as a whole was incredible

[arctic grove]

it was the quality of the devs which saved it

[eternal valley]

More people to buy micro-transactions

remember its Ea

[dusky blade]

Battlefield 1 was awesome

[tame wraith]

Seeing the state of the game and the plan for launch it is 100% certain they will repeat the firestorm disaster

[marble orchid]

You didn't play the open beta if you're praising it

[dark sandal]

now 2042 has the biggest dev team in bf history, 3 years of development

[dusky blade]

Back when the movement wasn’t cod