battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

Understood I'll smash my computer with a hammer

[remote kiln]

CPPC issues have existed on windows 10 for years

it still does

[dark sandal]

wait this windows 11 convo is still going on

[remote kiln]

no it's different

[tranquil kettle]

tbh im with him, i mean i d wait for some more bug fixing afterall win10 is supported until 2025 so yeah you have time to upgrade

[arctic grove]

No its not

[dark sandal]

i just dualboot windows 11

[tribal wyvern]

It's literally been proven ryzen has like a 30% performance drop on win 11

[dark sandal]

and windows 10

[arctic grove]

21

[dark sandal]

im on 8th gen intel so windows 11 does nothing bad really

[remote kiln]

yes, and I'm telling you the same issues have existed on windows 10 for years this is a driver issue not a OS issue

[arctic grove]

i got ea email for the specialist thing. i was like remove them bitches and keep em in hazard zone 💪

[tribal wyvern]

Yeah but a lot of people are team red

[dark sandal]

the majority are still intel

[light smelt]

hell ya

[tribal wyvern]

Then why is ryzen running so much better on win 10 huh?

Explain that

[arctic grove]

Jesus

[remote kiln]

because it's CPPC2 and not CPPC lol

[tranquil kettle]

perhaps hes talking about the cpu cache latency issue thats gonna be fixed next week

[dark sandal]

the latest windows 11 beta/release preview fixes the L3 cache latency on ryzen

[arctic grove]

Are threadrippers having trouble

[tribal wyvern]

And it's a preview, not an actual update

That shit is gonna take like a month tk be in full version

[tranquil kettle]

the update its gonna be in 4-5 days

[dark sandal]

the same exact update will probably come out next week

[tranquil kettle]

microsoft already said its gonna be tuesday i think

[arctic grove]

remember when microsoft said windows 10 was gonna be the last windows they ever release

[tribal wyvern]

Since when have theh changed the duration it takes for updates?

[median tree]

hey

[dark sandal]

release preview means the build is as stable as a stable update and its finalized

[harsh furnace]

Windows 11 looks like shit

[dark sandal]

some changes are shit but all in all it looks better than w10 tbh

windows 11 isnt that bad

[arctic grove]

inb4 many blue screen of death

[harsh furnace]

Microsoft tryna copy Apple 🍎

[dark sandal]

i mean they want some of apple's users

and apple's ui design is top notch imo

dont blame them

[harsh furnace]

Should make better phones maybe den dey can win

[dark sandal]

after switching to ios from android a couple months ago im not going back

[harsh furnace]

Yes iPhones all the way

[dark sandal]

i used to hate iphones back in the day

but they are imo better than android now

[split parcel]

I like being able to do whatever I want with my Android

[arctic grove]

the software is better but thats it

[dark sandal]

nah iphone hardware is also generally better

especially their soc

[arctic grove]

iphone hardware is samsung hardware

[harsh furnace]

I just care about simplicity iphone seems simple enough

[stable mango]

Will there be some levolution in this BF?

[dark sandal]

the display and ram are samsung because they make the best in the industry

what do you expect

[tribal wyvern]

Definetely looks brtter

But i hear everywhere it's not worth upgrading

[arctic grove]

the cpu is also samsung

[trim lance]

[dark sandal]

thats where ur wrong

[dim blade]

i miss the beta :<

[dark sandal]

its apple designed and manufactured by tsmc lmao

u are full of shit

[arctic grove]

im not tho

tsmc and samsung have a joint venture

[signal basin]

Play nice.

[dark sandal]

its still manufactured by tsmc

they are completely seperate companies

whats ur point

[hidden wren]

slide into each others dms for iphone vs samsung debates

[dark sandal]

its not really a debate

[arctic grove]

everything in iphone is a samsung component besides the camera 6.1" 12 Max

[dark sandal]

he is just ignoring facts

[signal basin]

Well technically it is a debate.

[vale pier]

Do people still have phones? Maybe it's a boomer thing

[harsh furnace]

Phones kill bees 🐝

[signal basin]

Let me pull out my 1920s typewriter.

[dark sandal]

wrong again

samsung doesnt make cameras lmao its sony, lg, sharp etc

[tribal wyvern]

I am afraid of upgrading to win 11 since there's a lot of features missing, bugs and my friend ran 2042 beta a lot worse with win 11

[hidden wren]

wait 6 months before upgrading

[arctic grove]

🤭

[dark sandal]

idk why ur so desperate

im actually contemplating about upgrading to 11

[tribal wyvern]

I'll ptob replicate the look of win 11 in win 10 and call it a day

[dark sandal]

no clean install

[dim blade]

Hey i got an amazing idea for you Ready for this? Just don't upgrade it

[arctic grove]

im not im just stating what ik. btw i have an iphone lol

[harsh furnace]

“Something new? Free? Must get it right away”

[tribal wyvern]

Yeah i won't, i'll replicate the look in win 10

[sage anchor]

What weapon did irish use in the short film?

[vale pier]

Upgrading to windows 11 right now is like buying a new iphone. Not worth it.

[tribal wyvern]

There's like 10 videos on how to get win 11 look in win 10

[dark sandal]

samsung does not make cameras or camera lenses

[harsh furnace]

If u want bigger screen why not

[sage anchor]

?

[harsh furnace]

?

[slim quiver]

I’m waiting until I’m forced to upgrade

[signal basin]

I still can't update to windows 11

[dark sandal]

i havent encountered many windows 11 bugs tbh

[sage anchor]

What weapon did Irish use in the short story

[dark sandal]

its pretty damn stable

[next onyx]

I'm just gonna sit on windows 10

[harsh furnace]

Good question

[arctic grove]

they do, they supply the 6p lenses

[slim quiver]

It says I’m not eligible for windows 11 which is funny

[sage anchor]

Back to BF2042

[dark sandal]

same maybe i will wait a few months for all the fixes to go in

[sullen inlet]

Where leaks

[tribal wyvern]

Tpm and secureboot needs to be on

[dark sandal]

i installed windows 11 with secure boot off

[sage anchor]

[slim quiver]

Oh yeah that could be it

Well either way I will wait until I’m forced

I like windows 10

[dark sandal]

tpm is on by default nowadays

[worn whale]

What is tpm again

[tribal wyvern]

Win 10 still great

[dark sandal]

like i could go to windows 11 right now on the latest release preview and be happy

[safe cypress]

So i heard we gonna get bf4 revive, im very happy now.

[arctic grove]

still waiting on them to remove specialist

[sage anchor]

What weapon did Irish use in Exodus?

[dark sandal]

specialists can suck my balls

[arctic grove]

at least you agree with one thing

[safe cypress]

U gonna be waiting forever bruh

[dark sandal]

like im playing apex

[next onyx]

I can assume a SCAR, Dulli.

Alpha, Don't.

[dark sandal]

wait what did i do

[arctic grove]

EA would have never sent out that email if it wasnt in the talks

[sage anchor]

I‘m trying to find out

[harsh furnace]

Never played apex never willl

[safe cypress]

I also heard the command wheel will be coming back

I want to spam Go go go

[next onyx]

Could have worded this much better than this Analogy

[safe cypress]

Davai davai

[dark sandal]

it wasnt an analogy tho

[harsh furnace]

He got a thing for them can’t blame it specialist do be looking sexy

[next onyx]

I don't mind specialists, But they're handled poorly

[sullen inlet]

Specialists are cool

[harsh furnace]

Cooler than u

[sullen inlet]

Well I dont have a grappling hook to rappel me 50ft so yeah

[arctic grove]

dice most def made they for hazard zone and some idiot probably brought up the idea of bringing them into the all out war part

guarantee

[sage anchor]

I think he used the MCX spear

With a holographic sight and Suppressor

[sullen inlet]

I can't imagine playing the game in less than 4 weeks

[sage anchor]

If it doesn’t get delayed

[next onyx]

Honestly we've come so far

[vale pier]

Ready or not, it's releasing next month

[arctic grove]

Its been a long road

Getting from there to here

[sullen inlet]

Day 1 playing all the maps, unlocking the coolest guns in Portal

[arctic grove]

Its been a long time

BUT MY TIME IS FINALLY HERE

[sullen inlet]

Grinding through progression and cosmetics

Imagine hourglass close quarters combat while the red sky and tornadoes are in the background

[arctic grove]

i was thinking more along the lines of a place to bury strangers

[grizzled island]

plot twist. hazard zone is really just securing someones browser history LOL

[vale pier]

oh shit oh fuck

[plain sparrow]

of fuck i hope not mine...

[sullen inlet]

Incognito mode 😎

[plain sparrow]

oh yea

[grizzled island]

lol

[harsh furnace]

Doesn’t work

[grizzled island]

I will expect all the memes coming from hazard zone when it comes out

"securing anime honkers"

[sullen inlet]

Anime bad

[plain sparrow]

Oh i will really enjoy the Time

[river crag]

Is this where I go to scream about how much I hate specialists

[grizzled island]

yes indeed. save my post because i'mma call it

[harsh furnace]

Scream to ur mum

[arctic grove]

yes, keep saying it till they remove it

[proud glen]

im gonna take a loan to buy bf 2042

[harsh furnace]

Y

[proud glen]

why not

isnt a loan where u go to a bank and ask for money?

[dim blade]

load

[sullen inlet]

You mean buy on credit?

Can you even take a loan of 60 xd

[harsh furnace]

Y need of loan buy with money in ur pocket

[river crag]

REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS

[arctic grove]

more

[sullen inlet]

Cry

[next onyx]

Yeah no this far into the game they won't.

[proud glen]

they aint gonna listen to you so no point darling

[river crag]

REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS REMOVE SPECIALISTS

[weak umbra]

i love incognito

[arctic grove]

yasssss

[weak umbra]

they not

[proud glen]

nooo stop u do not want to get muted stopppp

[arctic grove]

a bit too much

[harsh furnace]

At this point crying doesn’t effect anyone we seen it enough

[river crag]

Everyone join me, let’s start a revolution in this piece

[proud glen]

no

[weak umbra]

no

[proud glen]

im out

[grizzled island]

agreed

[weak umbra]

we good tbh class system overrated

[harsh furnace]

Let him get timed out ez

[proud glen]

lol

[river crag]

Betrayed by my fellow fans

[next onyx]

Spamming isn't gonna help you.

[dusky blade]

Non mom ami

[proud glen]

im an air conditioner

[river crag]

I’m sorry

[sullen inlet]

Nobody is your fan, little cringer

[proud glen]

can u be my friend

[visual horizon]

Specialists would work in Hazard Zone quite well, but they shouldn't be in Core or Portal

[weak umbra]

the devs aint gonna get rid of something that huge this late in the dev cycle

[harsh furnace]

I can’t be betrayed anymore my fellow soldiers have betrayed me before

[river crag]

That can happen

[dim blade]

I dont mind specialists, i just hope they can categorize those specialists into classes

[next onyx]

Sure.

[weak umbra]

think logically one month to release only thing they gonna do is bug fixes and maybe rebalancing weapons

[proud glen]

what would they add instead of specialists? (this is my first bf game i did not play the others)

[river crag]

If they just LISTEN for Christ sake it’s probably way easier than you think to simply unlock the gadgets. I’m not asking for the classes back but I’d like to create my own medic out of a gadget pool w 2 slots

[next onyx]

Yeah core they've done that

[proud glen]

AYAYYAAYYAYAYAYAYAYAAYA

[dim blade]

sweet

[arctic grove]

i said it before. they might not remove them, but the might get rid of them for all out war. there would have been not a single point in sending out the email asking

[river crag]

Well the beta is an “oLd bUiLd” so maybe there’s more time

[visual horizon]

i think that Specialists could be an easy fix, all they need to do is take 'em out, give us the AI's skins until they create something unique, give us access to standard gadgets and weaponry

[harsh furnace]

Normal soldiers but that’s boring now we need something new

[proud glen]

that sounds lame ikr

putting c4 on drones and blowing up things is better

[sullen inlet]

Specialist suits 2042s lore

[river crag]

They ran an actual statistic and they said people only use the classes for guns (highly debatable personally) so I think just having loadouts would be a better move

[harsh furnace]

Yes blowing up all 64 enemies

[arctic grove]

yes hazard zone and thats it

[sullen inlet]

They wont remove it because some cry about not playing classes after 20 years

[dim blade]

C5 drones to take out VTOLs

[proud glen]

eggsactly

[dim blade]

me and friends did that in beta, fun times

[proud glen]

☣️

[river crag]

Something tells me spam is working

[sullen inlet]

2042 = AoW

[arctic grove]

it is

[arctic grove]

pscht...

[river crag]

They’ll probably ban me from launch then I’ll have to make an alt to play

[harsh furnace]

Don’t hack then

[vale pier]

I think what annoys me the most is with having terrible launches made a lot of people lose trust in DICE's ability to make a good game. Things started to look up with the pacific update for BFV. Then they somehow bring us back to square one with 2042. All they had to do was make a solid Battlefield game and not try anything stupid.

[proud glen]

nice bush

[harsh furnace]

Brush it

[proud glen]

hahha

[river crag]

Bruh

Anyone that actual gets salty at cheaters is just a bot tbh

[harsh furnace]

I can’t wait for new AI hz

[vale pier]

[tribal wyvern]

[glad mulch]

Which they managed, they gave us a good game!

[river crag]

Bring back 1st person executions 🥲

[tribal wyvern]

Bf3, bf4, bf1, bf5 all had terrible launches yet they were still praised after being fixed

[river crag]

The 3rd person ones are cringe and they’re so fast there’s no point in switching the camera

[tribal wyvern]

So that completely deletes your reasoning of mistrust

[vale pier]

with how divided the community is. No, no they didn't

[tribal wyvern]

Define community

[river crag]

BFV was never “fixed”

[weak umbra]

this

[tribal wyvern]

It was

[harsh furnace]

I like how we have same convos everyday

[river crag]

Take it from someone who plays competitive and has 900 hours, DEFINITELY not fixed

[next onyx]

Even though the beta was naturally buggy, It was buggier than usual for a beta.

[river crag]

Better than launch, significantly. A polished game, not so.

[vale pier]

[arctic grove]

it wasnt, those who complained just stop caring and moved on

[harsh furnace]

Nice what tournaments u compete in

[next onyx]

Bf5 did become stable later on and had a really good launch

[arctic grove]

thats where the "fix" came from

[sullen inlet]

Nothing about BFV is competitive, except maybe the occuring bugs

[slim quiver]

Nothing about BF is competitive

[next onyx]

Squad conquest was fun for comp

[river crag]

My more serious team members were into that but we aren’t going that crazy till 2042 as our comp team is small rn. Still some sweaty BFV players

[harsh furnace]

Yes

[modern robin]

wait, the bfv bugs aren't a gameplay mechanic? 😱

[river crag]

We play with a few genuine competitive teams on Xbox tho

[next onyx]

Rotterdam being a personal favourite during well, The time i played comp

[harsh furnace]

Bf isn’t comp y u even sweating

[slim quiver]

You can play a game competitively but that doesn’t make the game inherently competitive

If it was I’d be seeing ranked leaderboards

And ranked MM

[sullen inlet]

Imagine being a KDA whore in BF, couldnt be me

[arctic grove]

or esports

[slim quiver]

This

[next onyx]

Comp just gives those players an outlet, They can choose on a universally agreed upon banlist and play.

It's a lot of fun.

[slim quiver]

All multiplayer games can be competitive though, depending on how someone plays

[arctic grove]

What does the beta Battlefield 2042 not have from the ACTUAL battlefield 2042

[slim quiver]

But the structure determines if it’s a comp game by goal

[harsh furnace]

Bf the most casual game

[arctic grove]

i think the main reason bf isnt esport is bc the gameplay is just too large of a scale

[weak umbra]

my friend trynna convince me his macbook air can run modern titles i just checked the specs cant even runn 1080p

[slim quiver]

BF excels at being casual which is one of its strong suits

[night roost]

will there be a hazard zone beta?

[next onyx]

No

Actually that'd be a good idea to be honest

But eh

[modern robin]

i love how sweaty bf4 is

[slim quiver]

The mixed lobbies of player skill makes battlefield a variable shooter and that makes engagements all the more exciting

[arctic grove]

imagine having an esport team of 64 players trying to communicate together. it just wouldnt work

Can we use modmail to ask questions

[river crag]

Not really tbh it’s dead but there are folks who are on and get wayyyyyy toastier than me

[coral lagoon]

next person to send a message secretly hates bf2042

[molten trout]

certain game modes could work but itd be too niche

[river crag]

Couldn’t be me either

[slim quiver]

To be fair there are battleground teams in mmos that play competitively with like 40 people. Not as much as 64 but it’s doable

[modern robin]

the 8v8 league in bf4 is pretty cool

[river crag]

My team does 32v32 all the way down to 4v4

[arctic grove]

yeah but thats diff. the fights arent as random and chaotic as bf

[next onyx]

While i don't care much for K/d, It is a good number to keep track of how much you're actually improving.

[arctic grove]

theres too many unknowns

[slim quiver]

My k/d is the same for every BF game

[molten trout]

in bf score would be a better determinant for that imo

[slim quiver]

It always sits at 1.4-1.5 every game

[next onyx]

What if you have a good SPM with it lucius

and KPM

Then again, What is a good SPM?

[dark sandal]

stats arent that relevant really

[molten trout]

score covers kills anyway + doing objs, kills arent be all end all in terms of skill in bf

[sullen inlet]

1000 in BF3

[modern robin]

cope

[river crag]

Some of my teammates are stat whores. I personally don’t care since my assault loadout is normally a 1 way ticket

[next onyx]

I'm always on objectives so i always hit 15/20K score

Per game

[glad mulch]

It looks like all the 2042 maps will have their very own feeling. Like orbital with the rocket start and the green landscape, hourglass with its sand storm and led lights, the Korean map which will be extremely intense, Singapore map in the dark, breakaway with the snow landscapes and the penguins and the Egypt map which splits the battlefield.

[molten trout]

u took a shower yet?

[modern robin]

last night after my workout

[arctic grove]

my k/d for bf games is usually around 2.5 and my win ratio is barely 1. k/d doesnt matter

[molten trout]

take a shower

[tame cobalt]

64 player esports team

[river crag]

Can’t wait to do 64v64 clan battles

[modern robin]

why would i take another shower? its been like 8 hours and i havent done anything since

[river crag]

And we can give those PlayStation fools a run for their money

[next onyx]

Looking at my averages for the older ones, Damn was I bad.

[molten trout]

cope

[next onyx]

1.8 in 3, 2 in 4 and H, 3.8 in 1 and 6 in 5

[modern robin]

that makes no sense

[next onyx]

Just move on you two

[molten trout]

cope

[modern robin]

form an argument please

[next onyx]

Last warning

[molten trout]

argument from what 😭 im just fuckinf with u bro its not that deep

[arctic grove]

3.8 in 1 and 6 in 5

thats 50 kills a game with avg death of 10

[modern robin]

adman! ban!

[tame cobalt]

I never followed squad orders on bf4, don't know if i even realized it was a thing

[river crag]

@next onyx are you a dice friend or something?

[next onyx]

No. Would be cool though.

[molten trout]

commander role was cool

[river crag]

Yeah that would be, I wish Ben Walke was in this

[weak umbra]

i need new friends anyone he trying to say that you can change the resolution in settings even though its hardware locked his mac display is sub 1080p and he in denial saying it changes in settings plz anyone need a friend

[tame cobalt]

So squad orders seem more ... "Democratic" in 2042... Wonder how that'll play out

[arctic grove]

god awful

[weak umbra]

and he trying to pass it off as if he knows anything about computers

plz anyone need a friend

[sullen inlet]

Nobody cares

• anime pfp

[arctic grove]

oof

[river crag]

Massive oof

[weak umbra]

plz i just want a friend

a new one[

[next onyx]

Knock it off

[river crag]

I’m jk ❤️

[molten trout]

u jamaican?

[next onyx]

Mac's are so stupidly expensive

Well, That doesn't need to be said but when you look into it it still punches you in the gut somehow.

[molten trout]

@river crag ?

[arctic grove]

the software is amazing

[river crag]

Yes my father was born in Montego Bay, JA

[arctic grove]

can i get a voice over of you saying jamaica mon

[molten trout]

..

[sullen inlet]

Brethren

[weak umbra]

he still trying to prove his 2016 mac can run a modern title

[river crag]

I’m first born American so I have a NY urban dialect

[arctic grove]

damn

[modern flax]

Yeah, after you pay another 2000 $ to buy it from apple store

[river crag]

Purchasing Mac is a fat L. Double the price for half the features and accessibility on Windows 👎

[modern flax]

People are buying it only because it can connect to their IPhones

[sudden hare]

man, it sucks, i had so much fun in the beta, now that i can't play it again it just feels so awful

I just want to play 2042 😦

[river crag]

I want Hazard Zone

[modern flax]

And they have a shitload of other apple stuff they want to connect

[sudden hare]

Playing as Casper and EMPing and droning was a blast.

[river crag]

I’m gonna be #1 player on earth for Extraction streaks

[modern flax]

I didn't play him much in beta but I think he will be really good in hazard zone.

[sudden hare]

he disables the ability for helicopter to flare, and tanks cant smoke screen

[tacit river]

Remote detonate c4

[molten trout]

tanks cant fire either while empd

how do u use emp feature on drone tho? could never make it work

[sudden hare]

You have to lockon first

[tacit river]

Zoom button

[sudden hare]

hold right click to lockon

[tacit river]

Then fire

[sudden hare]

then leftclick to fire

[tacit river]

Or L2 and R2 on playstation and xbox

Chat is unusually quiet today

[sudden hare]

casper has so much teamwork swing potential

[harsh furnace]

Drone didn’t work on pc

[sudden hare]

im on pc and it worked just fine

[arctic grove]

just pew pew

[tacit river]

You could attach c4 to it and make it a bomb

[arctic grove]

c4 is better used else where. like making cars fly across the map

[weak umbra]

plz help

[arctic grove]

no no no

[opaque barn]

Any news on shotgun buffs

[river crag]

@storm roost employee please make specialists cosmetic only ❤️ and also bring back my first person executions 🙂

[arctic grove]

c5, not c4

[dusky blade]

Cant wait for payday 3

[rich elbow]

I had a dream last night that I strapped some C5 to a Recon Drone, flew it to some soldiers in BF2042, and COMPLETELY failed to kill anyone because I was fumbling with controls for too long.

I’m still bad at this game even in my dreams 😂

[weak umbra]

what kind of dreams do you have my dream was hugging my mate cause i cant see him in lockdown

[river trench]

I had a dream that i have bf2042 i was happy till i woke up

[harsh furnace]

Sadge

[chilly steppe]

Your in lockdown still?

[weak umbra]

sydney

we went back in it 2 months ago

[chilly steppe]

Rough

[weak umbra]

bro it is my other friend trying to tell me he can change the resolution of his mac above the native resolution

without upscaling

[opaque barn]

I had a dream I put buckshot right In Someone's nostrils on 2042 and got 60 percent damage

[weak umbra]

lol

[opaque barn]

😡

[weak umbra]

that was random

gav you still here

[high badge]

I played bf5 and the gameplay is so different to the 2042 beta also I like to be able to prone in some corners and crouch running is awesome also the feedback system when u killed someone is 10x better I hope in full release this is all adapted to bf 2042

[weak umbra]

bf5 made me wanna throw my controller'

[opaque barn]

Bf5 is fun now

[weak umbra]

team mates running over me while im down spawn camped

[opaque barn]

Shotguns we're barely acceptable but it did the job

[high badge]

I like bf5 it's very smooth also underground 64players on hardcore is like real war :D

[bronze thorn]

Hi all. How are we

[odd fox]

Please never compare bf to war 💀

[high badge]

I just hope bf2042 will adapt more from bf5 like crouch running special proning positions and so on and mostly the performance issues that fuked me up in the beta xd

[bronze thorn]

Crouch running is a thing?

[high badge]

It feels like Battlefield didn't meant to compare to real war I Meant more likely war in Battlefield

[opaque barn]

Be better if battlefield shotguns we're worth a damn

[bronze thorn]

Shotguns on bf4 were hillarious. Especially on locker.

[opaque barn]

Make everything deadly

[high badge]

Crouch running is very important in bf5 so u won't get headshoted in some areas xD

[timid crypt]

Game is horrible

[opaque barn]

They had hard ore servers on bf5?

[arctic grove]

can we talk about the lack of penguin skins for the robot dog

[bronze thorn]

There is no shortage of servers on bf4 which is good.

[high badge]

Yes on pc version u can choose servers with filters and there's many servers also with 200%dmg/hardcore

[opaque barn]

No squad dm servers of bf4 like that

[high badge]

Most of the severs disabled sniper tho cuz it's too op but u can play dmrs

[bronze thorn]

Community servers are the best servers.

[arctic grove]

until you come across a badmin

[timid crypt]

Beta sucked

[high badge]

Ye badmin

[bronze thorn]

Id rather have badmins than cheaters.

[oak moat]

e

[high badge]

Badmin I don't like the server they disabled sniper but ppl can run around with grenade launchers xD

[bronze thorn]

It doesnt matter how good your cheat is. You cant avoid a community admin ban.

[arctic grove]

they want to play hardcore, but no xD

[oak moat]

where do i get roles?

[arctic grove]

both are cheaters if you do mental gymnastics enough

[opaque barn]

If 2042 has ass shotguns the game will be broke

[eternal valley]

why do you only talk about shotguns

[high badge]

I think shotgun is ok if u have to hold a position like capture the flag or conquest

Or some Close combat areas

[arctic grove]

cause they are suppose to got boom boom not poof poof

[eternal valley]

fair

[opaque barn]

@eternal valley because it's main and I feel they're being neglected damage wise by devs who always create poor shotguns in their games.

Battlefront.....

[eternal valley]

but still hes acting like if shotguns are bad the whole game is bad

[high badge]

In bf4 shotguns are op as hell with slug ammo holy shet xD

[eternal valley]

yea

[slim quiver]

Uh if anything shotguns have never had a chance of being neglected in the past decade in battlefield

[arctic grove]

i hate shootguns in bf games cause they are always so broken

[slim quiver]

One of BFV’s strongest weapons is a shotgun

[opaque barn]

@slim quiver in this game it seems buckshot is being mistreated is what I'm saying

[slim quiver]

BF1 also has unreal shotties as does BF4 and BF3 with slugs

[high badge]

I mean shotguns are shotguns they are meant to be lethal in close range but I don't like the slug ammo :/ too strong

[slim quiver]

I think if anything, making shotguns not instantly kill people at 20 meters is A-ok by me for once

[opaque barn]

I spoke with content creators who put up 2042 shotgun videos on YouTube and they all agreed the consistency of the buckshot needs a dramatic buff at close range

[eternal valley]

same

[high badge]

Ye

[arctic grove]

youve always been able to kill someone with a shotgun from 10 feet away it gives me akimbo Model 1887 nightmares

[eternal valley]

i never really liked shotguns in bf games

[opaque barn]

@arctic grove not in 2042

[arctic grove]

Winchester Model 1897 ❤️

[opaque barn]

People hate shotguns so no one cares. Someone has to fight for the tradition

[next onyx]

Buckshot is better at a range than slugs

[high badge]

Also not only shotgun sucks machine guns on bf5 are not good tbh I don't see anyone playing machine guns xD

[next onyx]

It's so annoying

The LMG's in 5 are great

[arctic grove]

every time i use a shotgun in bf ive always been able to one shot people and at 10 feet

[slim quiver]

If people just want to run around the map again with the DAO feel 1 shotting everyone again then ima have to say nah shotguns can stay toned down for once. People have got way to used to them being so broken

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/kim-kardashian-evil-smile-smile-grin-i-have-a-plan-gif-17445285

[eternal valley]

I only play support in 5

[opaque barn]

@arctic grove that has changed in 2042 with buckshot.

[next onyx]

Fg42, BAR, BREN, Lewis gun, Chauchat, Almost every lmg in 5 is viable

[opaque barn]

2 shots at 5 meters

[eternal valley]

^

[arctic grove]

good

[next onyx]

The type 97 exists and is bullshit

[eternal valley]

lewis gun ❤️

[next onyx]

It's genuinely an awful mg the 97

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/evel-knievel-stunt-cycle-stunt-bike-stunt-man-stunt-gif-21586040

[sullen inlet]

Shotguns are boring

[next onyx]

Why couldn't they do the type 99 mg I DON"T KNOW

[slim quiver]

Type 99 is hilarious

[opaque barn]

That's bad.@arctic grove it allows smgs to dominate close range with a lower ttk then a shotgun that is only good at one range

If your effective range is poor what's the point of using it

[next onyx]

I'm never doing this again.

Bullshit shotgun

It's annoying to fight because it's the only good shotgun in the game.

[opaque barn]

Yyp

Unlike the 12 guage personally

[sullen inlet]

SMGs always have an advantage to shotguns

[eternal valley]

yea

[opaque barn]

And even that kills point blank range. The shotgun in 2042 does not have point blank range kill power

[eternal valley]

smgs are short-medium range

[arctic grove]

remington 1897 ?

[next onyx]

Smg's have a bit of range over shotguns, Also they're a bit more forgiving if you miss a couple of shots.

[arctic grove]

stress

[opaque barn]

@sullen inlet no, they do not.

[next onyx]

Model 37, Gecko

[slim quiver]

@next onyx wonder if BF will add in Japan’s new firearm line, their first change since 1989!

[eternal valley]

???????

[next onyx]

It's the 37 Stakeout

LOL

[slim quiver]

Ahhh the Howa type 20

[opaque barn]

The shotgun is meant to be a one hitter quitter up close and personal. If it lacks this power it will be cast aside and we don't want that brother

[next onyx]

Ohhhhhhhh

[eternal valley]

Therefore you are wrong

[slim quiver]

Inspired by the FN Scar Build

[eternal valley]

and shotguns are weaker

[opaque barn]

Shotgun is about footwork and maneuverability to work at close range

[sullen inlet]

With 12G you aim for torso no? If you dont hit all pellets and die instantly before you shoot again, imagine a Val or Vector pulls up, you wont shoot twice

[eternal valley]

exactly

[next onyx]

You aim for the torso no matter the shotgun

[eternal valley]

you aim for the torso no matter the gun

[opaque barn]

And in 2042 the pump buckshot will leave u dead before u get ur second shot off. Why because it has no power even at it's effective range

It's ass

[eternal valley]

smg go brrrrrrrrr

[next onyx]

Buckshot drops off extremely quickly

[flat grail]

i think you can like get free kills over and over again using casper's drone and c4 glued onto it lmao no one notices it really

[opaque barn]

The tiny dot rectical makes hit markers unforgiving as hell .u can point buckshot a nanometer off their earlobe and I won't get a single hit marker shooting buckshot in their face

[arctic grove]

shotguns can stay nerfed for 1 bf game. kick rocks

Maybe Orbital is not the best map for shotguns..

[harsh furnace]

Good in some areas if you camping

[opaque barn]

that means battlefield 2042 will be a failure @arctic grove

[arctic grove]

no no no

[opaque barn]

No game with bad shotguns is successful

[eternal valley]

what

what

[arctic grove]

sure, but I think there will be better maps for shotguns

[opaque barn]

It's about balance. U can't have an obsolete weapon group

[arctic grove]

just change your name to i like shotguns

[harsh furnace]

For sure

[opaque barn]

I was a top shotgun user in California in bf4

[eternal valley]

yea

and plus there will be more shotguns that work differently

[arctic grove]

desert map will be good for shotguns

[opaque barn]

I know the gun. Shotguns balance the close range engagements and keeps everyone in check

To respect range. without this respect assault and SMG will run rampant

[eternal valley]

They always have

SMG and ARs are always the most used

[opaque barn]

They will not if buckshot is trash

It will be bad

[eternal valley]

They are the most versatile weapons

[slim quiver]

The ARs run rampant in every BF game

[arctic grove]

my fav

[opaque barn]

Shotgun is not versatile which is why buckshot must be saved and preserved

[eternal valley]

No

I dont want to be sniped by a shotgun

[slim quiver]

If they don’t make hip firing more viable for SMGs then they won’t be as good. It will be like ARfield again

[opaque barn]

Omy god what happened to the community.

You don't respect the buck anymore ? Is this what I'm hearing ?

[eternal valley]

yea

[slim quiver]

Yes

[eternal valley]

Yes

[opaque barn]

Wow

[slim quiver]

After 10 years of dealing with OP shotguns I don’t want to see them be at the top again

[eternal valley]

exactly

[arctic grove]

that seems bad cause they already win 90% of the time at close range against ARs

[opaque barn]

Mwe can only hope the battlefront devs who made the worst shotguns I ever saw in my life in that star wars game have the sense to buff the buck

[slim quiver]

I’d like one game where I dont see any futuristic “Model 10” show up on my screen

[eternal valley]

whatt??

[opaque barn]

Point blank@slim quiver should be a 1 shot I'm sorry

[slim quiver]

Very very close range they win if it’s a vector

[opaque barn]

A shotgun can't even beat a vector with the shotgun barrels stuck in your chest

In 2042.

[slim quiver]

BFV SMGs we’re good up until 25-30 meters where they start to dwindle and get clapped out, making ARs medium range dominant

[elfin void]

I only really used the 870MCS in BF4 but I dont think BF shotguns are particularly OP? They are compared to other games but if you neuter their range as much as in 2042 (seemingly) they will just be DOA which is a shame

[keen gate]

Hello there enjoyed Beta 👍

[arctic grove]

thats what smg are for tho its a good medium

[slim quiver]

Yes but in 2042 it does not work that way lol

In 2042 you need a good 5 meters right near the person to empty a mag in them with a vector

[candid junco]

Yo yo

[arctic grove]

hmmm

[slim quiver]

Smgs should be relatively safe for up to 20-25 max meters

[sullen inlet]

B1 on orbital was vector kingdom

[slim quiver]

I shouldn’t have to ADS at 10-15 meters

[delicate hollow]

I hope to get a double barrel shotgun in 2042 that's all I'll use

[opaque barn]

And the characters are so small in 2042 it's more difficult then ever to land shots at close range with a shotgun. The tiny dot they give u doesn't even work correctly

[arctic grove]

how many maps are more close range?

[opaque barn]

Buckshot and slug rounds are the same inn2042

[slim quiver]

I can only think of 1 map being close range

[arctic grove]

orbital seems to be the most open map

[keen gate]

Hey bro Maul good to see you here in BF too

[slim quiver]

Kaleidoscope is the smallest map

[eternal valley]

the shipping container map seems to be cqb

and maybe the city one

[opaque barn]

@keen gate thank you.

[eternal valley]

why did you upvote that lmao

[keen gate]

Hopefullly the Hazard Mode is enjoyable

[eternal valley]

it seems fun

[opaque barn]

I like arrows @eternal valley

[regal coral]

Does anyone know if 2042 is including with EA Play?

[sullen inlet]

Im here for 2042

[wide escarp]

they are will is bad are for were was

[eternal valley]

yea im pretty sure

[eternal valley]

isnt the last map called breakaway?

[slim quiver]

Who knows

[opaque barn]

@slim quiver plus 7 maps from old games

[keen gate]

Discarged could be a Cool Map

[slim quiver]

All I know is the size of the maps is freaking huge

[mortal prism]

HUGE

[slim quiver]

So a lot of weapon types could end up being way more difficult to use

[delicate hollow]

Was kaleidoscope supposed to be like a Dubai map or something

[regal coral]

has to be huge for 128 players tbf zzzy

[eternal valley]

the last map scares me

[slim quiver]

The last map I probably will never play

[opaque barn]

The ease of use vehicles make the maps easier to navigate

[slim quiver]

The size already screams “vehicle map”

[keen gate]

Hourglasd and Discarged i look forward

[eternal valley]

yea

Im looking forward to manifest

[slim quiver]

Discarded and kaleidoscope I’ll probably stay on

The rest I’ll skip

[eternal valley]

ill play all of them

[opaque barn]

Why can you call vehicles.sometimes but not others. I don't get the.system

[keen gate]

Looks like to be a Ship Map Ocean ..

[eternal valley]

big ass open map is a vehicle map

cause vehicl

[wide escarp]

we are ware are war are

[eternal valley]

get good

just get good

[opaque barn]

At least it's easy to get a vehicle

[high badge]

I don't like orbital somehow it's too big and in the beta u had not many options then walking not much vehicles to drive for 128 players

[slim quiver]

Orbital on last gen consoles was way better

[keen gate]

Could you actually activate Wingsuit in Beta ?

[slim quiver]

The map is basically just the top section of the map

[eternal valley]

no

[slim quiver]

It was so well fit for 64 players

[keen gate]

Good i thought i was just dumb ..

[eternal valley]

that specialist wasnt out for the beta

[tacit viper]

I don't think it is. I mean I was searching for it couple of weeks ago but it wasnt mentioned

[eternal valley]

i think it is

iirc

[stuck crypt]

anyone saw the lemon guy ?

[eternal valley]

oh wait no

dont worry im wrong

[eternal valley]

lemon64k?

[stuck crypt]

yeah

[opaque barn]

2042 is treating buckshot like The Division. Like some silly bullet sponge weapons. Meanwhile everything else is deadly.

[eternal valley]

what about him, hes not active rn

[opaque barn]

Save the shotty

[arctic grove]

im comparing orbital to how closed off maps are.

hour glass in certain areas would beast with smg
discarded seems to be an mostly AR map
manifest smg
kaleidoscope def smg
orbital AR
breakaway smg (if youre fighting in caves) like i think there is
renewal im not sure.

so with that in mind smg arent to overpowered that they would completely dominate on their prefered map

[stuck crypt]

@eternal valley not your business

[keen gate]

We need some small Map i hope that is Discarged

[opaque barn]

@arctic grove make shotguns deadly and the game will be about pure skill

[eternal valley]

ok?

[sudden hare]

so apparently chaos chosen aren't terribly good melee in campaign

[timid crypt]

This game will flop in sales

[sudden hare]

wonder why that is

[arctic grove]

this is probably why shotguns are so nerfed

[slim quiver]

Yeah I just am hoping that they’re fixed so I’m not ADS every engagement

[sudden hare]

WAIT WRONG DISCORD GAH

[slim quiver]

I rather liked the style of combat in V where I wasn’t always ADS

[keen gate]

Why do you think so ? I bought it , would support this over the new Cod

[dark sandal]

im gonna torture myself now by playing warzone

[eternal valley]

how

[dark sandal]

wish me luck

[opaque barn]

@arctic grove because SMG and assault guys want to be the close range shooters and whine to devs

[timid crypt]

Because it just fucking sucks

[steel pilot]

Hi guys, in this bf2042 do exist the training ground, like in bfV??

[keen gate]

Its a Beta .. Old Build

[eternal valley]

not in the beta. it might be in the full game. we dont know

[mortal prism]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[arctic grove]

well smg are close range and there seems to be more close range areas in all the maps than most of them being open

[steel pilot]

Thank 👍🏻

[opaque barn]

The shotgun must have 1 hitter quitter ability at it's most effective range. Anything less is unacceptable for battlefield

Tradition.

[eternal valley]

No

[slim quiver]

“Tradition to be broken”

[opaque barn]

Yes

[pliant knot]

are the LAVs going to be that vehicle in the reveal trailer that was going through the ice in that arctic map?

[opaque barn]

Let's not break the tradition of success

[eternal valley]

GUYS OH NO THE SHOTGUNS ARE SLIGHTLY WORSE THEN NORMAL AND DONT 1 SHOT FROM 10 METERS AWAY NOOOO

[slim quiver]

“We need shotguns to 1 shot to cancel out any other close range oriented weapon”

[radiant echo]

[arctic grove]

with what i said i think smg is pretty balanced considering most maps have a lot of close up areas

[opaque barn]

Lets not go back to battlefield hardline days
I thought dice learned their lesson from those abysmal shotguns at launch. Holy moly

[pliant knot]

who cares about shotguns lmao, they’re only useful in metro

[slim quiver]

If shotguns don’t become aggressively buffed then yes

[eternal valley]

[slim quiver]

If I can be 1 shot again at 20 meters then it’s going to be more dumb outclassing where they can never seem to find their range

[opaque barn]

Like shooting confetti in hardline. I never forgot that

[sullen inlet]

Smgs have always been the best

Its a Val kingdom

[arctic grove]

shotguns are nerfed hard. i can kinda see what the devs are trying to do

AR vs SMG

[slim quiver]

It’s mostly been ARs and Semis

[opaque barn]

@slim quiver u can't even one shot at 5 meters so come on now, buff the buckshotn

[next onyx]

In which game

[eternal valley]

[next onyx]

Cause that's easy in 5.

[eternal valley]

2042

[opaque barn]

@next onyx in 2042

[slim quiver]

Which I’m okay with, it took us many games to get this far

[sullen inlet]

Not in close quarters combat wtf

Dmrs are ass

[opaque barn]

U will not get consistent kills at point blank range with the buckshot 870

[slim quiver]

Oh no not CQC

I’m talking majority dominant

[opaque barn]

Point Blank range is less the. 5 meters

[slim quiver]

The majority of players use ARs and Semis or LMG

Unless it’s BF1

[sullen inlet]

Im not running smgs on bigger maps

[slim quiver]

If it’s BF1 it’s like LMG and Smg

[regal coral]

shotguns are aids anyway, just use a normal weapon

[arctic grove]

breakaway seems like it will be fun for smg players

[next onyx]

Admittedly I haven't tried the shotgun and only got killed by it once, Less shotgun bs is good for me.

[slim quiver]

Remember the model 10 in BFV

[opaque barn]

I run shotgun on any map. Jist went 30 something and under ten deaths on a bfv conquest map

[eternal valley]

its funny because I thought the shotguns were fine. I got a few kills while using it

[slim quiver]

“I just get to 1 shot anyone within 20 meters”

“Oh and I can fire faster than a semi”

[opaque barn]

@slim quiver don't be insulting. This is about point blank range not using the shotgun as a SMG

[sudden hare]

What's neat is we're gonna get a new specialist with each battlepass, which is super cool

in know in BF3 and BF4 we'd never get anything like that.

[slim quiver]

Jackfrags even did an entire video on how that broken weapon was never fixed

[sudden hare]

and if we had a class system that would never work

[tame cobalt]

Buff shotgun

[next onyx]

You mean in 1? Yeah that thing was annoying

[slim quiver]

He literally spends 20 minutes explaining to people just how badly shotguns have dominated BF games past and present

[slim quiver]

Oh yeah what was the BFV one way

Was it the M5

[next onyx]

The m30

[opaque barn]

5 meters or less - one shot

10 meters to face - one one shot or 80 damage to chest

15 meters 2 to chest

[next onyx]

no

The m37

[slim quiver]

Yeah

[next onyx]

Jackfrags talked about the 37 being borked

[arctic grove]

shotguns started to become an issue after bad company

[slim quiver]

Well that was because of slug ammo

[next onyx]

No coincidence that everyone was using it the day after

[slim quiver]

And flachette

[eternal valley]

id still rather a class system

[opaque barn]

An issue for assault that want to hip fire at point blank range like a shotgun user

[sudden hare]

why?

[opaque barn]

Assault wants total supremacy and it can't be allowed to happen

[next onyx]

Thing thats scuffed about the m37 is it can be given a rpm of 180, Basically RSC Territory.

[opaque barn]

Save the shotty.

[next onyx]

If not, It's the only shotgun with slings and swivels

[arctic grove]

hopefully the EA email sent out changes thing. im really hoping

[next onyx]

Which gives up such a stupidly large advantage over all the other shotguns.

[slim quiver]

Hip firing should be manageable up to 20 meters tbh. That was a staple of what made BFV gameplay intense, you didn’t always need to look down your sights as hip fire accuracy was stable for many guns

[eternal valley]

Or atleast the specialists are restricted to using some gadgets.

[opaque barn]

The slugs in 2042 are fine. The buckshot is hot hot HOT trash

[sudden hare]

what do you mean?

[eternal valley]

like engi specialists can use rpgs and repair tool but not medic bag and ammo crate

[sudden hare]

Why would you want to do that?

[next onyx]

If standing up, 10m, If crouched, 15m Ez.

[opaque barn]

I wonder if they'll have more rocket launcher types in 2042

[eternal valley]

so there is teamplay

[opaque barn]

That infantry rocket launcher in the beta was ass

[sudden hare]

but there's teamplay now, even with the limited amount of specialists we had to try out with.

[next onyx]

Though yeah hipfire upgrades should push that

[slim quiver]

Yeah I mean even in BFV smgs could EASILY hipfire at 15m and then tapered off after. But most ARs and LMGs could do it at 10m

It just made combat more intense

[next onyx]

YOOOOO that's one thing i want to try out so badly

[arctic grove]

im gonna make the rpg my main for close quarter fights 😎

[next onyx]

Hey zzzy i have an idea

So

[eternal valley]

no there isnt. not as much as bf3, 4, 1 and 5

[next onyx]

You hate tanks, Right?

[slim quiver]

I don’t always want to be staring down sights

[slim quiver]

With a passion

[opaque barn]

@slim quiver the guns in v are balanced largely

[slim quiver]

Well in BF

[next onyx]

Sundance with c5.

[sudden hare]

You're comparing a beta to a full game tho..........

[arctic grove]

tanks in bf are cancer

[slim quiver]

Oh yeah she will be good

[next onyx]

You have better air manoeuvrability, Drop by them and blow them to smithereens.

[opaque barn]

@slim quiver u have a grapple hook and c5 now. Tanks are finished

[sudden hare]

we had 4 specialists available out of 10, its like saying you could only play as 1 or 2 classes in the beta of BF4.

[slim quiver]

Tanks are finished when I play “infantry only” map

[sudden hare]

And very few guns

[arctic grove]

Shotgun doing what it supposed to do lol a 12g buckshot will destroy you lol

[sullen inlet]

No 20m hipfire shouldnt be a tbing lol

[next onyx]

Honestly. Tanks are annoying but they're kinda part of bf

[opaque barn]

And u can jump off a building and glide over head drop c5 goodbye

[slim quiver]

Any weapon will destroy you

[opaque barn]

Tanks are easy work. Lay low and crawl get the blind spot

[next onyx]

No one likes being instantly killed up close

[eternal valley]

The main issue i see is that any specialist can use any gadget. Medic can use ammo crate and have infinite self heal.

[arctic grove]

Not as bad for 12g lol

[next onyx]

if i get killed, Let it be by a subbie

[sullen inlet]

338 lapua magnum 😎

[arctic grove]

no no no

[opaque barn]

@arctic grove buckshot is not doing what it's supposed to do in 2042 for some reason. In the future the government has decided to nerf shotties

[next onyx]

Don't remind me of BFH Magnum rounds Esperia

That shit was genuine cancer

[slim quiver]

If I used that logic I should 1 shot ANYONE in the game with a .300 win mag sniper. But I have to do it in 2.

[sudden hare]

but thats the point, its super cool that you can use the same gunsetup with any specialist, that flexibility is awesome. And then you have the speicialist specific gadget that makes the gameplay unique.

[arctic grove]

Finally. Work is over

[next onyx]

Huzzah

[opaque barn]

Make all weapons cancer . It's supposed to be fun

[eternal valley]

No it isnt that deletes teamplay

[sullen inlet]

Same as your pfp

[opaque barn]

Every gun needs to shine at it's effective range

[next onyx]

Stop responding Esperia

[sudden hare]

IT enhances it. Why do you think it takes it away? Giving players choice is awesome. And making people play the way you want them to is bad.

[sullen inlet]

XD

[arctic grove]

I agree i struggled with mcs 880 it dont feel right getting killed by glock 9mm up close

https://c.tenor.com/d0VNnBZkSUkAAAAM/bongocat-banhammer.gif

[sudden hare]

You have ot realize forcing your perspective on players is not a good thing.

[arctic grove]

remember games are suppose to be realistic but not too realistic that its not fun. shotguns happen to be one of those things that can be unfun

[next onyx]

Yeah guns should do well in their ranges, But let's be honest, Using a shotgun in Satellite is like using a shotgun on panzerstorm. It's dumb.

[opaque barn]

@arctic grove uh huhm you see it too. We need a circular hip fire rectical. The spread literally only goes in that tiny dot

[sudden hare]

Also it was a beta. With 4 out of 10 specialist. PEople are figuring things out.

You have to give it more time.

[opaque barn]

So I miss with buckshot at point blank. It's the weirdest thing I ever saw

[arctic grove]

Lol you got range im talking about cqb standard

[arctic grove]

Yeah I don't wanna be forced to take part in basic training, be given a rifle/gear and told to go on a 365 day tour

[eternal valley]

How is it my perspective?

[next onyx]

Model 37 is more annoying than a 12g to be honest

[slim quiver]

Well If we really about to use logic in ammo types to struggle with gun balance, then you all should be agreeing snipers should be 1 hit to the chest. I probably bet there will be a 50 BMG in the game

[sterile flint]

my only put would be to add a 3rd slot. too many equippables in 1 spot and assuming the list gets bigger w/ full release

[next onyx]

Ohoh

be back

[slim quiver]

Man what a waste

[sullen inlet]

Uh huh

[arctic grove]

apparently 4 of the 10 that havent been seen yet are the old class system

Well that was clever lol

[eternal valley]

brurh

[arctic grove]

Insta ban

[vocal tusk]

Shotguns shouldnt do well on all parts of all maps. On orbital, they would do well if you plan to defend the flags, not at 20m range in between 😛

[arctic grove]

Rip

[sudden hare]

You want to force everyone to play the way you want so you can be happy. Your suggestion is to elminate choice and force everyone into a role so you feel that teamwork is present at all times. But the problem is that you arent even experiencing the full game and are making pretty harsh calls.

[opaque barn]

They should do well at their effective range. One shot. Consistent. Why can't people accept this ?

Why so we have to be the nerfed trash.

[eternal valley]

There is still choice

[sudden hare]

no, that's an illuision of choice.

[arctic grove]

Anybody will tell you a 50. Bmg is great for vehicles but for infantryman not really unless you in cqb situation

[vocal tusk]

Or just use slugs on the shotgun and make them a skill cannon...that makes em no different to a revolver

[sudden hare]

You just want to force everyone to pick a box or repair tool.

[slim quiver]

I mean if a .50 bmg hits an infantryman?

[opaque barn]

@vocal tusk make them what they've been in every battlefield. Great.

[next onyx]

I don't mind slugs, But they're most often worse than buckshot

[eternal valley]

literally no one in the beta used repair tools or ammo crates

[sullen inlet]

You know he is right, a big sniper is always the king of cqc, just look at CS

[slim quiver]

They’re not just standing up and brushing it off

[next onyx]

If they bring resupply stations in to 2042 i will be happy

[sudden hare]

LOTS of people used ammo crates. Do you realize how few bullets the game gives you?

[sterile flint]

I mean false, I used both

[sudden hare]

You HARDLY get ammo.

[arctic grove]

Slugs are super inconsistent in my experience

[opaque barn]

U use a shotgun because I fight up close. Meaning fighting up close shouldn tbe a huge challenge

[sudden hare]

People didn't realize use a lot of medic boxes tho.

[sullen inlet]

Slugs are broken in EFT

[eternal valley]

More people used armor, rpgs and medic crates

[arctic grove]

Although I loved turning shotguns into snipers with slugs in bf3

[vocal tusk]

I mainly ran ammo box, but the repair tool felt weak

[arctic grove]

If you hit them it be 1 shot lol but ill rather take 12g over a 50 bmg bullet

[nova idol]

Because its all split between your different ammo types

[arctic grove]

Anyone else put the 20x scope on a shotgun in here?

[next onyx]

Shotguns should be good in what they do yeah, Though i'm not complaining in their current state

[arctic grove]

Fun times

[sudden hare]

most people arent going to figure that out, and honestly that's jank too.

[nova idol]

Good the repair tool should be weak

[slim quiver]

That’s kind of my whole point though. It should be 1 shot if we are using round logic

[opaque barn]

Buckshot to your chest at 5meters should be one shot no exception

[next onyx]

Nope, Though the strongest i have used on mine wasa 6x during 3

[sudden hare]

people and vehicles auto regen hp i think?

[arctic grove]

EOD bot needs a buff lol

[vocal tusk]

12g felt weak on the beta for me

[sterile flint]

true

[opaque barn]

@vocal tusk what 12 gauge ?

[eternal valley]

no use for repair tools

[arctic grove]

I didn't even try the shotguns in beta.

[high badge]

Medic boxes in 2042 are so useless the range is like u have to stay inside the box to be healed consistently the speciliast flank syringe is so strong that u shot once a guy with low health and he heal up in a few seconds to 100hp with the box its healing rate is so slow maybe there will be perks and so one that increase the range and healing rate of the medic box or ammo box and so on no idea

[sudden hare]

My point is, there's plenty of teamplay, it's just not shoved in ammo boxes and medic crates and repair tools.

[slim quiver]

Problem is one mess up with the tuning and we will have another M37

[sullen inlet]

There was only one shotty during beta

[arctic grove]

https://twitter.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1449081747984031749

[sudden hare]

As casper, most of your teamplay is in your drone, that thing is godly.

[slim quiver]

We need bandages back it’s that simple

[arctic grove]

I saw a lot of people complaining about the shotgun in beta. Was it really as bad as people made out?

[sudden hare]

Falk is with her healing darts, but she needs her ranged revive back, and she can revive anyone.

[slim quiver]

Just have health regen without having to hold onto bandages

[high badge]

Yes pls

[slim quiver]

But we need bandages

[next onyx]

Hell i wouldn't mind it if just press the action skill button had her automatically aimed at a player

[arctic grove]

it was op and broken

[arctic grove]

Yep but im just saying in my opinion that 12g buckshot works quicker plus the spread makes it deadly

[vocal tusk]

If the syrette pistol isnt getting revive back....swap it for bandages TBH

[slim quiver]

I don’t care if people think homing bandages are not immersive, the crate is trash

[opaque barn]

@arctic grove no one did and no one really talked about the shotty because it was weakness. I had a tiny dot to aim with and tiny characters to shoot at. With buckshot is was very difficult to land shots on someone with new fast movement and who's jump shotting you with an AR from close range

[warm plaza]

Her medic gun was only good for self healing, you couldn't hit your teammates to heal at all

[sudden hare]

That's what they said, but i dont really trust their balance atm considering MacKay is the way he is.

[slim quiver]

Maps are too big for crates being handy

[vocal tusk]

And the range on the heal is TINY

[high badge]

I don'tike the revive system in bf2042 I want ma defibrillators back like in bf4!

[sudden hare]

Crates arent the epitome of teamwork anymore, specialist gadgets are.

I think that's only a good thing

[eternal valley]

The thing that worries me is that some guy could be wearing a ghillie suit and have an lmg and an rpg, like that makes no sense at all

[opaque barn]

Circular rectical for buckshotn first thing we need

[arctic grove]

so were bandages

[vocal tusk]

You can throw a bandage 15 m

[arctic grove]

So more like you never got to fully test the shotgun's capabilities because of the movement in game?

[sudden hare]

Why wouldn't that make sense? Armies do that IRL. That can be done.

[arctic grove]

Ammo crates are must need

Maybe a close quarters tdm would've been different?

[slim quiver]

Based

[eternal valley]

When I see someone with a ghillie suit I think they have a sniper rifle

[arctic grove]

youre talking about the health create being tiny right?

[opaque barn]

@arctic grove I'd say it was difficult to land shots on a moving target in 2042 because of the tiny rectical they give u

[slim quiver]

Anyone remember tossing the bandages like a football

[opaque barn]

And lack of spread

At close range

[arctic grove]

What platform are you on?

[vocal tusk]

Box = area heal
Bandage = thrown insta heal restart

[opaque barn]

Ps5@arctic grove

[tight storm]

2143

[slim quiver]

Bandages are better when everyone is so spread out on these maps

[sudden hare]

Sure, but isn't it awesome to do something different? You don't want the same regurgitated thing over and over again do you?

[arctic grove]

Box of bandages anybody can throw it 20 yards lpl

[vocal tusk]

The box in 2042 betas heal radius was tiny

[sudden hare]

This is going to be the most popular and best battlefield yet, I'm very excited.

[slim quiver]

The box just wasn’t all that good. Bandages have like no cool down

[arctic grove]

its more realistic in a sense

[slim quiver]

You can toss it to anyone that needs it

[sudden hare]

There's always a loud vocal minority of people shitting on beta's of battlefields, it happens every time.

[vocal tusk]

agreed, but fun > realism

[slim quiver]

We playing a video game

[opaque barn]

@sudden hare if buckshot is poor everyone will say assault and SMG are overpowered and ruining the game

[sudden hare]

huh?

[opaque barn]

@sudden hare u heard me brother

[arctic grove]

i said the same thing about shotgun so i do understand fun is more important

[sudden hare]

think you ment to talk to someone else

[arctic grove]

Buckshot are powerful round

[vocal tusk]

Im not saying make a box have a huge radius...but at least increase it by 75%

[eternal valley]

I just dont understand the choice for a medic to be using c5 explosive

[arctic grove]

Mate, you know what was a genuinely good tactic? Sitting at the top of one of the spires by rocket pad with an ammo box whilst blowing up as many aircraft as possible.

[burnt swan]

bro who uses shotguns on conquest go play breakthrough or something if you want to use shotguns

[opaque barn]

@arctic grove in other battlefield games. Not this one

[eternal valley]

Like tanks should be on the lookout of for anti tank players but now literally anyone could be an anti tank player

[opaque barn]

The buckshot in this game reminds me of the shotgun from battlefront. But a little worse

[sudden hare]

I think you're just too preoccupied pigeonholing everyone in a class system.

[arctic grove]

You got killed by shotgun dont lie lpl

[arctic grove]

you should be able to huddle around it like a group of people huddle around and talk

[sudden hare]

My advice is don't.

[slim quiver]

I never saw anyone use a shotgun the entire beta

[burnt swan]

not as much in conquest compared to rush and breakthrough

[sudden hare]

They're going for kind of a hero shooter-ish sort of vibe. Rainbow 6 Siegeish.

[slim quiver]

I was killed by the M5A3 98% of the time

[opaque barn]

I use shotgun in conquest. I use terrain to flank and get kills up close.

[arctic grove]

i did a few times, but it always took them 3 shots to kill me

[arctic grove]

I agree i didnt like shotgun in beta it wasnt powerful

[sudden hare]

that gun was OP

[tender folio]

Actually, Hazard Zone is the mode where people rush to get porn hard drive.

[sudden hare]

the M5a3

[slim quiver]

Honestly a lot of guns weren’t powerful in the beta

[opaque barn]

This man understands.

[eternal valley]

why would they scrap a system that was working fine

[arctic grove]

You gotta secure objective in cqb lol

[opaque barn]

@slim quiver well make them powerful. I'm speaking for the shotguns

[slim quiver]

The M5A3 was the most broken

[burnt swan]

even the beta shotgun with slugs is still pretty weak

[arctic grove]

i was beaming people with the m5

[warm plaza]

Rs6 is 5v5, battlefield isn't really comparable to siege

[sudden hare]

they didn't scrap it, they evolved it. You see elements of the class system still there.

[burnt swan]

idk its mostly ars, lmgs and smgs

[slim quiver]

I have no expectations for them to

[eternal valley]

where

[opaque barn]

@burnt swan at least it's a one shot headshot

[burnt swan]

except hit reg is broken lmao

[opaque barn]

True

[slim quiver]

I have no hope for snipers either in 2042 after seeing some of those bullet velocities and such

[sudden hare]

the boxes, general gadgets, revive, stuff like that. I'm just surprised you're THAT bothered by this. Tell you what, when you see and play the full game with all 10 specialists I think most of your worries will be gone and you'll be content.

[sullen inlet]

That crack sound when you land headshots is kinda satisfying

[burnt swan]

sniping felt good in the beta but it was the hit reg that bothers me

[opaque barn]

If I'm at 5 meters with buckshot why do I have to shoot. Get behind cover come out and shoot again for a kill when the guy with assault or SMG can just melt me without cover at 5 meters.

It's disgusting

[sudden hare]

It's very difficult to judge the game when you have 2 selfish specialists and 2 teamwork ones.

[nova idol]

Fuck snipers

[opaque barn]

😡

[burnt swan]

nah we just got a shitty sniper to use in the beta imo

[arctic grove]

shotguns bad no more shotguns good

[slim quiver]

That’s what everyone is hoping

[eternal valley]

I hope so. i just hate the fact that i cant recognize what enemy is carrying what from far away.

[opaque barn]

I already told myself if these shotguns are trash I'm going to just become Roflcopter cancer

[slim quiver]

I don’t think release will be any different

[vocal tusk]

I'm saying to make the radius a small bit larger...I would also bring back bandages...but maybe instead of a bandage..make it a healing stim shot (Modern equivilant)

[burnt swan]

honestly i dont mind sniping though

[sullen inlet]

Sniping got easier in 2042