battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

Not enough actual gameplay. Too many cinematics

[harsh furnace]

im sure they going to release more vids near release

[arctic grove]

….

[lime torrent]

praydge

[arctic grove]

Oh hey there isnt a dumpster fire going on?

[lime torrent]

?

[arctic grove]

Usually this channel is pretty bad

[dusky blade]

This chat is usually terrible

[harsh furnace]

I can’t stop watching hazard trailer

[arctic grove]

Its pretty fun, right?

[marble orchid]

that's how they've done all their reveal trailers for 2042

[radiant prism]

yeah I was pleasantly surprised to find a civil conversation going on in this channel

[harsh furnace]

Yes esp maps so beautiful

[arctic grove]

Shawty told me she ain’t down to watch the rocket launch with me

[proud glen]

i do :((

[arctic grove]

[robust patio]

Ur name is beta over ? 😂😂

That’s tough

[short terrace]

Hazard zone looks so lame

[arctic grove]

How can people form an opinion on something they haven’t even played yet lmao

[robust patio]

Facts

[short terrace]

And this is coming from a battle royale player too

[harsh furnace]

🤣

[short terrace]

Drives really dice? Didn't warzone have drives?

[proud glen]

@robust patio is beta over?

[arctic grove]

Then that makes sense considering it’s not a BR

[short terrace]

it pretty much is a br. With objectives dice doesn'

t want to mention the words BR otherwise you normies would be reeeing to much

[proud glen]

tommy init?

[harsh furnace]

🤣

[proud glen]

ahahaha

[arctic grove]

It’s fairly different than other BR’s but go off

[short terrace]

that's all I had to say about it

[arctic grove]

I’m sorry you’re so upset about a game that hasn’t released yet

Feel better soon

[proud glen]

^^^ spittin fax

[short terrace]

What? I'm just giving my reactions?

[arctic grove]

Look at your name

[short terrace]

Upset. Im saying to boycott because of Dice tone death response to never banning cheaters on pc. It has nothing to do with me hating the game?

[harsh furnace]

Lol

[short terrace]

that's not why I made my name to hate on the game it was because of them not banning cheaters.

the game sucking comes after teh fact

[arctic grove]

Your messaging is poor then.

[signal osprey]

hazard looks awesome reminds me of survival on division 1

[harsh furnace]

So name yourself “ban cheaters dice “

[arctic grove]

Try something like #ImproveAnti-Cheat

[short terrace]

That's why my name is boycott because then no one buys game and dice and ea suffer muhahah

[harsh furnace]

Lolll

[arctic grove]

Nobody is making purchasing decisions based on your discord name

[marble orchid]

look into hunt: showdown if you want a snippet of how the game will play

[visual oasis]

Hazard zone looks mid

[mystic verge]

in bf2042 can we loot guns etc off the ppl we kill?

[cerulean folio]

mid

[weak umbra]

hazard zone should be f2p

chat ded finally

[harsh furnace]

Yes

[mystic verge]

ok thanks

[marble orchid]

we'll find out near release or from leaks

[harsh furnace]

U could loot in beta

[arctic grove]

me trying to get the tank in 2042 to support infantry movement

[short verge]

hey

is battlefield 2042 basically a hero shooter

[arctic grove]

One of the modes kinda is

Not the entire game tho

[weak umbra]

chat is dead yessir

[short imp]

i love cod vanguard

[arctic grove]

Silence, fool

[weak umbra]

and to solidify it pickled pens

[arctic grove]

Is it out yet

[short imp]

no but the beta was good

[amber kelp]

yes

[weak umbra]

nnnnnooooooooooooooooooo it isnt]

[amber kelp]

explain

[arctic grove]

One mode is similarly to a hero shooter

Only one mode and it’s not full on hero shooter

[amber kelp]

its a game where you play as heroes

[arctic grove]

That’s literally only one mode

All out Warfare is not the entire game homie

[amber kelp]

specialists are in HZ too

and an option in portal

[arctic grove]

HZ is completely unique to anything BF has ever tried before so

[short verge]

specialists

[amber kelp]

you still play as specialists

[arctic grove]

And most people in Portal will use traditional bf settings

Specialists is not the same as a hero shooter. Lot of differences

[amber kelp]

its just a name. Like how Siege calls them Operators

[ashen lily]

battlefield 2042 MORE LIKE COD 2042

[arctic grove]

Just because a character can do something unique doesn’t make it on par with overwatch

[amber kelp]

when they do, and have distinct personalities and lore, then they are on par.

[short verge]

[arctic grove]

The way overwatch characters influence the most is in no way comparable to someone with a grappling hook in BF

[ashen lily]

DIDNT NOW THIS WAS APEX OK PATHFINDER

[timid cosmos]

heroes once they give them a name and personality bio

[arctic grove]

False equivalence

[amber kelp]

OW is also not the only Hero shooter. 2042 is closer to Siege and Apex which absolutely are hero shooters

[arctic grove]

Overly simplified way to look at games

[short verge]

apex is a hero shooter right

[amber kelp]

yes

[quiet pawn]

When is the release date?

[ashen lily]

YES

[quiet pawn]

I can't wait

[arctic grove]

Apparently everything but cod is a hero shooter now so

[amber kelp]

because theyve all been implementing a hero system

[arctic grove]

I guess any game with distinguishable characters are all in the same bucket now

[ashen lily]

THEN STOP MAKE HERO SHOOTERS

[quiet pawn]

awesome , less than a month

[arctic grove]

I don’t develop games

[ashen lily]

lol

[ashen lily]

there is Squad

the new BF

[arctic grove]

Hero shooter is a broad term that doesn’t address the vast differences between games.

[amber kelp]

hero shooter means "games with a hero system"
nobody is claiming otherwise

[quiet pawn]

COD? I thought COD had Rambo and John

[arctic grove]

Classic monkey brain gamers needing to put everything into one box

Monkey brain time

[short verge]

i think cod isnt a hero shooter, isnt it just skin and stuff

[quiet pawn]

what makes BF a hero shooter then

[arctic grove]

It isn’t one.

[quiet pawn]

lol

[amber kelp]

"its totally not a hero shooter guys, just a large cast of distinct characters with unique backgrounds and abilities."

[timid cosmos]

specialists being characters

aka heros

[arctic grove]

It’s a military fps with some aspects of characters that have very minute differences between one another, but largely are very similarly to one another.

[quiet pawn]

they look more like extra classes to me. They have abilities like players did in BF2: Special Ops

[short verge]

Hero shooter

[arctic grove]

This game is in no way equivalent to something like Siege.

[timid cosmos]

they arnt in the military they no pacs

[arctic grove]

Simplistic monkey brain time

[amber kelp]

You could literally say what you just said about Siege. Obvious cope is obvious

[short verge]

man

[quiet pawn]

plus they have non specialists, all determined by the server hoster

[arctic grove]

Siege operators have much more dynamic influence over the round/ game. Their abilities are significantly more thought out and distinguished for the purposes of achieving certain objectives. BF2042 offers some players one gadget that has no bearing on the game, other than what said player chooses to make of it.

Siege has better defined roles, BF2042 does not.

[timid cosmos]

just because they are not very good heroes does not mean they are not

[amber kelp]

one gadget that has no bearing on the game
-grappling hook somehow has no bearing

[arctic grove]

Hence the ability to run around with any gun, with any character, with any gadget.

[timid cosmos]

they are just the aquamans

[quiet pawn]

If it wasn't specialists it would be the same BF4 models they already made for it, with maybe some glowing LED RGB on their suits and called "future soldiers"

[arctic grove]

There’s no way you’re comparing one grappling hook in bf 2042 to someone like Thermite in siege.

[amber kelp]

it would be the bot models

[arctic grove]

If you can’t see the obvious differences between how these two games handles their characters then I have no words for you

[uncut pier]

It’s a new game for a new time with new features.

[arctic grove]

Simplistic monkey brain deactivated

[amber kelp]

• dude legit thinks grappling hooks do nothing and arent an item that completely changes the flow of a map

[timid cosmos]

hawkeye was a hero, he had a bow and arrow

[arctic grove]

Grappling hooks are in no way as impactful as operator abilities in Ranibow six siege

[amber kelp]

This is simply wrong. and Im done playing word games w/ a man making excuses

[short verge]

regular class system literally been in the game since the first title of their franchise

[arctic grove]

I bet you consider rocket league to be in the same category as Madden don’t you

[amber kelp]

its just chasing trends

[quiet pawn]

it doesn't change the flow

no one even killed me with one

lol

[arctic grove]

Rocket league has ball therefore rocket league is sports game

Monkey brain mode!

[timid cosmos]

it is a sports game

u play soccer with cars

[amber kelp]

sport game as in "game about sports" or "top down game controlling a team"
Cause its certainly a game about sports

[quiet pawn]

i like monkey ball

[short verge]

man

[arctic grove]

Would you place rocket league in the same bucket as Madden?

[short verge]

specialists

[arctic grove]

Simple question

[amber kelp]

whats the bucket?

[timid cosmos]

i place madden in the trash bucket

[uncut pier]

True, but there is nothing wrong with change from time to time

[arctic grove]

Simple question. Would you separate games like Madden and 2k from games like Rocket league

[uncut pier]

Can you blame them? Change is bound to happen and it brings new people but also pushes away people the have been with the franchise but the old games still exist.

[short verge]

well might as well replace guns with swords and muskets right

change from time to time

[amber kelp]

what is the category youre asking me to put them in?

[uncut pier]

Too drastic, maybe they’ll make a game for that era though you know

[short verge]

battlefield 1842 poggers

[arctic grove]

I’m not asking you to put them in a category. I’m asking if you would consider them to be different enough to not lump them into the same genre of game

[quiet pawn]

most specialists are weaker than BC2 and BF3 gadgets

[timid cosmos]

games can have multiple genres

[uncut pier]

As long as I can have a gadget two slot I’ll be happy

[short verge]

this

[amber kelp]

@vague ridge, are you aware that there are multiple ways to categorize a game? And that the phrase "hero shooter" does not invalidate a game from being described in other ways?

[uncut pier]

I’d rather have a no specialist option so that I can carry a seconds gadget

Rather than remove them entirely

[quiet pawn]

I would rather have a design your own character model and upload

[arctic grove]

It has become apparent that anyone with more than 3 brain cells has went to bed. I will now do the same so as to not continue losing mine.

Recap: Rocket League is in its own category of game, not that hard of a concept.

BF2042 is in no way comparable to Siege operator abilities. I’m sorry this hurts your tiny monkey brains. Goodnight

[amber kelp]

Id say that only falk is

[timid cosmos]

well we had 2 gadgets pre specialist

[quiet pawn]

The women that shoots adrenaline does what better than BC2 BF3 medics with defib and health packs?

[amber kelp]

No, I mean falk is the only one who is worse

[quiet pawn]

oh yeah def

[amber kelp]

Falk's gun is a slower and trickier to use version of the BFV health pack

[short verge]

the line that separate class based game with hero shooter game is quite blurry
apex legends is a hero shooter right

[quiet pawn]

Soflam painter? is that what I seen in the video for BF3 chars?

That is an important gadget

[amber kelp]

yes. Apex is a hero shooter

class based game with hero shooter
These are not exclusive concepts. HS is a form of class based shooter

[timid cosmos]

i would consider class based focus on rolls, where hero shooter is focused on a character with specialabilties

[quiet pawn]

spawn beacon

[arctic grove]

Not at all slower you can shoot whole clip and reload and continue in bfv you can only use the health pack gadget when you need it or teammate requests one

[short verge]

HS?

[amber kelp]

hero shooter

[quiet pawn]

if bipod is class specific, that will be almost OP

[short verge]

ohh ok

[arctic grove]

IM A DIAMOND PLAYER😎

[arctic grove]

And don't have to wait for someone to request health to use it

[amber kelp]

the self heal is slower and I have to pull the gun out and aim it before healing. In V i just press 3

[arctic grove]

Bipod m16a4

[weak umbra]

high school dxd

[short verge]

there isnt even a class anymore

[arctic grove]

I had no issue with it in slightest

[arctic grove]

To me falk was only not broken one

[quiet pawn]

yeah or MG42, I have been going 4.0 every game on TDM pissing people off on BF4

[amber kelp]

if everyone is broken, nobody is

[quiet pawn]

MG42

[arctic grove]

Makes no sense lmao

[short verge]

it does

[amber kelp]

its simple: if every class is overpowered, then they are all on equal footing, therefore none of them are

[timid cosmos]

no everyone will just pick the most overpowered

[quiet pawn]

LOL

[arctic grove]

I'm broken player

[quiet pawn]

truth hurts

[timid cosmos]

power needs a baseline

[amber kelp]

then that one is the only OP one

[warped copper]

Bf hazard zones a br lol we have been played

[unique oyster]

kind off

[amber kelp]

we knew for months it would be a tarkov clone

[short verge]

specialists are easy to monetize

[arctic grove]

It's no BR 😂😂😂

[solar tinsel]

After seeing the reveal today, I'd say it isn't really Tarkov like anymore. More like The Division / Dark Zone, perhaps?

[timid cosmos]

looks nothing like tarkov

[quiet pawn]

Meta guns and People who stick with their squad will be what is OP

[warped copper]

That guy in the trailer literally said go to the pinged location

[timid cosmos]

other than u buy ur gear

[amber kelp]

plus the ai on the map and extraction

[solar tinsel]

Is there even any "gear stash" that you have, which you can bring in and lose? I don't think so right?

[arctic grove]

You witness how to play as a team

[solar tinsel]

To me, having gear that can be picked up and brought back post-match is a key component of Tarkov, and If BF did the same, you'd be picking up scopes, attachments, etc.

and I didn't see that!

[timid cosmos]

u just get data disks and run no looting

[warped copper]

That trailwr comfirmed that hazard zones the main gamemode

[amber kelp]

nothing else?

then what are the AI for?

[timid cosmos]

shooting

[solar tinsel]

I think you can purchase gear and perks with currency, I'm not sure if you can get those currency mid-match though

[arctic grove]

Tell ya what you going to roll with me in hazard zone

[solar tinsel]

AI also will likely be protecting the data disks, so you'll likely need to get rid of them

[amber kelp]

fun. I love wasting time with brain dead enemies

[warped copper]

Huh u want us to see what it is together (begining of a new freindship)

[arctic grove]

We going to conquer hazard zone and show no mercy

[warped copper]

Ok mcc

[short verge]

they literally based the game on hazard zone

[warped copper]

Yh and hazard zone became exqctly what we expected it to be

[quiet pawn]

AEK is kind of meta in several BF games after someone gets the skill to use it right with the recoil, but even then every gun should be used as situational. You just make sure you are never medium range from their AEK, where its kill zone is. BF4 is like playing chess where you play paper, rock, scissors, every move.

[amber kelp]

I suspect apex was the big influence, and that we'd see specialists regardless of HZ

[solar tinsel]

I'd still call All Out Warfare the main focus, but I agree with @amber kelp , I think Apex was a huge influence

[warped copper]

@short verge i cant believe wing suit guy was acually a girl all along

[marble orchid]

ea just wanted an opportunity to sell skins since they're doing an everyone gets every dlc model

[solar tinsel]

Even the spot system has become the "ping" system that is closer to Apex

[amber kelp]

been that way since bfv

[solar tinsel]

ah, gotcha. Didn't play BFV. Good to know

[quiet pawn]

Thats why the attachment menu in 2042 is key. You pick how the weapon acts and its drastically different.

[timid cosmos]

if ping system worked

[warped copper]

Not rlly a problem if u dont want a skin dont by it

[solar tinsel]

For sure. Although, I do think that is the better way to go about it. Not splitting the playerbase with maps has been a big issue in BF previously

This avoids that and if people want to spend $$$ for cosmetics, so be it.

[marble orchid]

they said there were other ways to earn common skins in game but not much about it

[timid cosmos]

dumb tho cs:go showed u can sell lotas skins without impacting the game

[amber kelp]

they have sabotaged the gameplay and many features people liked just for mtx tho

[marble orchid]

yeah, splitting the playerbase is bad for a game's lifecycle but they should improve the specialists to fit in the game

[warped copper]

Yh apex lets u get skins threw playing the game if they use apexs system ill be happy

[amber kelp]

people need to criticize CSGO more, that game started a fad of mass gambling in almost all mp games for the better part of the 2010s
(ik tf2 started it but csgo is when it really took off)

[solar tinsel]

So: Valve? Why am I not surprised

[arctic grove]

apple bottom jeans jeans

[timid cosmos]

yes all down to them being tradeable

[warped copper]

This game cant fail tbh it offers alot it definitely won best fps if it runs well for all platforms@solar tinsel

[amber kelp]

yeah I guess random drops a more justifiable when you have an economy where items need to be rare.

[solar tinsel]

In all, I found the gameplay of 2042 fun. I think they just need to really shore up a lot of the UI, and find ways to ensure there is value in each of the specalists. I thought Falck as a medic was incredibly undervalued. But that can be fixed

For me, at the end of the day, it's all about having fun, and I did have fun with the beta

[marble orchid]

As long as it's able to secure a long term playerbase, it'll be fine especially since crossplay is a thing

[amber kelp]

I think they need to go a bit further and limit gadgets to specialists. The specialists all have interesting roles but the game doesnt do enough to push them into these rolls, making each specialist lack identity and teamplay disorganized

[desert elbow]

Limiting gadgets to specialists would make teamplay even more rare

[warped copper]

I expected more from this game but this is fine i guess

[amber kelp]

why?

[marble orchid]

Giving people the freedom to decide what they want their loadout to be seems better since they aren't locked into a role but they should look into gadget slots as being able to use an rpg and a repair tool should be a thing

[amber kelp]

Id be very surprised if we dont get a repair-based support specialist in the future

[formal wolf]

lmao the survey results are hilarious

everyones shitting on it

[marble orchid]

Locking a healing crate to one specialist will just make no one throw a healing crate. It was already underused in the beta and will be even more so

[desert elbow]

Right now ammo crates are the third most picked gadgets, but grapple hooks are first. If almost everyone used grapple hooks while gadgets are limited, then nobody would be able to bring an ammo crate since it's a support role gadget while grapple hooks are for an assault specialist

[warped copper]

Specialist could work well in hazard zone but not so good in all out wafare why did dice choose specialist over the old bf4 system

[buoyant trail]

Tbh I loved finding a good sniping spot only to suddenly get swamped by 4 or 5 grapple hook specialists lmao

[amber kelp]

granted this is because the hook is absolutely broken

[marble orchid]

specialists can work, they just need to be tweaked a little

[solar tinsel]

I'm ok with the gadget system the way it is, I agree giving more opportunities for players to pick teamplay is a good thing.... but a lot of teamplay gadgets just felt under 'powered".

The Ammo/Med kits seemed to have such a SMALL radius.....
The Syringe pistol required way too much precision compared to the ol' mini health bags you tossed

Since the team gadgets weren't great, other options were just better

[marble orchid]

People should be allowed to run an rpg and a repair tool like in previous games

[solar tinsel]

I'd argue that the teamwork oriented gadgets should PURPOSLY be slightly OP compared to combat gadgets

[desert elbow]

It isn't, it's actually pretty balanced, it's just that the other specialists aren't as good

[amber kelp]

if its better than any other specialist then it isnt balanced

[solar tinsel]

Any particular reason why you feel that way? Also, if there is a resupply specialist, you MAY be able to do that

[warped copper]

Nah i 100% think they cant imagine buying 2 of the same skins 1 for hazard zone and 1 for all out warfare

[solar tinsel]

I do think being limited to seeing only 4 out of the 10 specialists has obscured some additional loadout opportunities.

[warped copper]

Can u send me one of em

[marble orchid]

progress carries over between the modes

[desert elbow]

That makes no sense, by your logic if the grapple hook only made you go jump height, then the other specialists should be nerfed to be just as bad, like making falk's syringe give you 1hp

[marble orchid]

to more so symbolize the class system and not lock people out of a certain playstyle

[amber kelp]

If something is better than everything else, it is OP and should be nerfed
If it is worse then everything else, it is UP and should be buffed.
This is not a hard concept

[solar tinsel]

Well that's what I'm saying. What if there is a specialist that focuses on resupply, and with them you can run some ammo option + the M5 launcher

With 10 specialists, you might be able to find the build you're looking for

but you just can't GET that build with say: Boris

[formal wolf]

specialists are stupid

[amber kelp]

What if there is a specialist that focuses on resupply
There is

[marble orchid]

a repair tool with a rocket launcher?

[warped copper]

@marble orchid why cant u just like make ur own soldier like make his appearence his clothes and stuff i swear they just wanna sell skins for the specialists

[desert elbow]

Not really lol, that logic is terrible, just because it is more powerful doesnt make it overpowered, it can just mean the things below are underpowered

[wintry sigil]

anyone else thought the game felt a little bullet spongy? ttk a lil too long?

[marble orchid]

Specialists exists to sell skins for each character

[marble orchid]

ttk was short. You'd just get lasered by an M5

[wintry sigil]

i didnt get lasered by anyone o.o

[amber kelp]

generally the average should be the baseline for power, and not some outlier item

[warped copper]

Yh i know they did the same thing with black ops 3 but those specislists were fun these are just lack luster

[strange bobcat]

Can you guys believe the two biggest ea shills actually disagreed on something?

[solar tinsel]

What if there is a repair-based specialist?

But I digress, it sounds like you want a particular loadout to be able to have both offense AND teamplay with the global gadgets exclusively. I don't think that needs to happen, because it can be achieved with perk/trait + gadget combos

[wintry sigil]

only timme was close range with a vector where id delete people wit hthe increased RoF attaachments

[desert elbow]

Not when the baseline is underpowered

[amber kelp]

What if there is a repair-based specialist?
there isnt

[solar tinsel]

Or @marble orchid the inverse: perhaps there is an Anti-Tank specalist with its own unique launcher, and you can run repair tool with that

[formal wolf]

worst take ive ever heard

[amber kelp]

there isnt

[warped copper]

Isnt borris an engineer

[solar tinsel]

Do we have a full list?

[amber kelp]

for the most part thanks to temporyal

[livid eagle]

Imagine paying 50€ for a core gamemode fucking hazard zone. It’s like making Warzone paid when you buy COD:MW

[marble orchid]

Just give people the tools to do it on any character and let the specialists specialize in it by making them better in that regard if they're ever added to the game

[solar tinsel]

I'll have to check that out - I think that's how specalists can get to getting to a good spot. Balancing, but also making sure there are ENOUGH so people can make the build they want

[livid eagle]

legit hazard zone being paid makes me want to refund the game tbh

[solar tinsel]

Like I'm all for having someone get a launcher + repair tool, just make sure there's a specalist that focuses on one of those 2 areas

[livid eagle]

What’s next? Portal being paid?

[marble orchid]

both tarkov and hunt: showdown are paid games

[amber kelp]

so people can make the build they want
We also need more limits to encourage people to work together instead of making a jack-of-all-trades set up

[marble orchid]

with active playerbases

[livid eagle]

tarkov isn’t a DLC

[amber kelp]

HZ isnt a dlc

[marble orchid]

tarkov is a game in the style of hazard zone

[livid eagle]

Why does it cost money to play it then

[solar tinsel]

I can't recall if I said this already, but I think teamplay gadgets should be slightly more OP than combat gadgets, as an incentive

[wintry sigil]

huh wh yare we talking like hazard zone is an extra paid mode? what am I missing here??

[amber kelp]

its part of base game

[warped copper]

Hazard zone vs warzone cant wait to see who wins and becomes the top free to play game

[acoustic notch]

Funny how the community didnt wanted a free to play battle royale game before hazard zone revealed

[livid eagle]

Someone told me hazard zone was a separate purchase or dlc am I wrong

[desert elbow]

They already have that, such as just enough M5 ammo to cripple a tank but not destroy it, influencing people to bring ammo crates

[solar tinsel]

Negative, it's part of the game

[marble orchid]

It's not, for now

[livid eagle]

Mb then

[amber kelp]

its not that the gadgets arent strong enough, but rather that there is not enough reason to stick with other people

[warped copper]

So that means ita free

[solar tinsel]

I mean, you gotta buy the game - but "no additional cost" from that

[livid eagle]

I doubt hazard zone is like tarkov

[wintry sigil]

its apart of the base game..

[marble orchid]

It's more so like hunt: showdown

[warped copper]

Welp this game is doomed

[amber kelp]

its watered down tarkov without the ability to loot players

[warped copper]

Rip bf 2042

[wintry sigil]

are u on crack huh

[next onyx]

Hazard zone is part of the main game. It's not free to play.

[livid eagle]

Never played it

[livid eagle]

ok

[acoustic notch]

I never played hunt: showdown, whats the main objective of the game?

[marble orchid]

Look at gameplay for it and apply battlefield gameplay to it

[warped copper]

That can be a problem

[amber kelp]

you and your squad go in, kill a monster, loot it, and get out. Other squads are fighting to do the same.

[livid eagle]

isnt hunt showdown fighting a monster or smth

[wintry sigil]

It's literally just an extra gamemode in BF , more stuff to do if you choose to. its not a problem lol, nor was it claimed as a warzone competitor

[marble orchid]

Tarkov but less hardcore

[desert elbow]

It's not like Tarkov lmao

[solar tinsel]

I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually make ONE of the modes F2P at some point

[warped copper]

Yh

[foggy crest]

U are a hunter before any round of the game u pick your loadout weapons that cost money not real money it's in game money weapons are old from cowboy era old clunky single shot weapons , u can play with two random people or with friends , when you in game u got one objective u have to find the boss it could be any of these monster assasin , spider , butcher and scrapbeak and for that u have to find 3 clues but the thing is other players are also doing the same thing they are also trying to locate boss location whoever finds the boss first either they can kill the boss which takes time or can wait for others to kill the boss and kill them while they are doing the hard job so when the boss is dead u get the bounty token whoever owns it got 5 seconds of ability that lets player to see other players if they are close or in the range now others players will try to hunt down those players who has the bounty and the bounty carrying team has to extract alive if they die they will loose everything and in doing all of these u have to kill weak zombies they are of different types , so if you make it alive or extracted alive with the bounty u will be rewarded with money and skills that can be used to upgrade your hunters ability, the money that you make by winning is the money by which u buy weapons in the game and this is the loop

[livid eagle]

its so watered down I wouldn’t consider it tarkov outside of “buy guns and inventory “

[warped copper]

They both suck imo

[primal ridge]

Will hazard and portal be available for ps4?

[livid eagle]

i smell a bad tarkov player

[solar tinsel]

Yup, reduced player counts though compared to PS5

HZ will be 6 squads of 4 on PS4, and Portal is 64 players max

[acoustic notch]

Ah yes ah yes thanks

[primal ridge]

I see thank you

[warped copper]

I refunded the main pack i kept killing ppl with the eod pack and taking their gear

[livid eagle]

the game versions dont matter anymore

[marble orchid]

buy guns and inventory, kill monster, earn currency, extract

[foggy crest]

I will say try Hunt Showdown it's very unique experience very atmospheric, gunplay and sound design is awesome

[warped copper]

Then u have a bad scent ;)

[solar tinsel]

I think a lot of people speculated (myself included) that HZ would be Tarkov or Tarkov-lite, I wouldn't even call it Tarkov-lite anymore, since the core element of getting gear on the fly to bring it back to your stash isn't there. More like Dark Zone, like I said, with the Battlefield twist.

[livid eagle]

that’s not tarkov lol

[marble orchid]

that's hunt

[livid eagle]

Oh ok

Honestly buying 2042 for Portal I hope they add BF4/BF1 content

[warped copper]

I saw a warzone clonw tbh didnt see anything similar to tarkov besides that scene were they get extracted

[solar tinsel]

Allegedly each season there will be ~2 maps added from older games. Not sure if that will hold up, but could be awesome if true

I'm hoping for BF2/BF2142 content

[amber kelp]

i doubt

[livid eagle]

Not maps i mean game content and factuons

[solar tinsel]

I imagine it'd be a content drop for a game: 2 maps, some gear, the classes, etc.

"This season will be the BF2 Update in Portal" or whatever

[livid eagle]

If they included Bf1/BF4 that would drive the entire playerbase into this game, custom game rules and the scriptable engine and all

[marble orchid]

it will include bf4 at some point

[amber kelp]

I have the feeling we'll get more 1942/Bc2/Bf3 content before they port other games

[smoky hatch]

Mai San better

[solar tinsel]

I'm really looking forward to giving the logic editor a spin. My plan is to make a mode as close to BF2 as possible, and I'll be curious to see how much of it can be done with the editor

[amber kelp]

im going for a FH2 remake if possible

[solar tinsel]

Stuff like limiting squad respawns to leader, custom-making some classes based off of the OG classes, mag based reloads, etc.

[marble orchid]

logic editor will let people make some great gamemodes

[amber kelp]

main issue would be the class system. Youre only going to have 4 modern characters to work with.

[arctic grove]

I making a PR remake lol

[solar tinsel]

Well, here's the thing: if it lets me put as many copies of them as I want, I could still "make" the 7 classes

[desert elbow]

He could just use a 2042 character model which looks similar, if it's possible

[warped copper]

I luv how ppl think portal is the second coming of jesus or something

[amber kelp]

which is a big if

[solar tinsel]

Like it may have 2 "BF3 Assault" models, but curious as to if I can fix their inventory and call it

RIGHT, indeed. Big if

[amber kelp]

they confirmed you cant mix factions for some reason

[marble orchid]

It's basically overwatch's workshop mode

[desert elbow]

He literally just said it would make some great gamemodes

[solar tinsel]

but I'm curious to see how much freedom we get

[desert elbow]

Ah right

[warped copper]

Funny never heard of it

[livid eagle]

So, in the image they showed of the Portal logic editor (Its called Scratch by the way, from MIT), they are from what we can tell letting you do subroutines and basing game logic on what a unit is equipped with, so this may mean we can fully mod the game if we wanted. The whole idea of remixing also comes from scratch.

It’s so powerful they are including subroutines, it’s like giving them mod tools almost

[solar tinsel]

The 2042 spawn screen definitely ALLOWS for more than 4 "slots" due to the Speaclist system, so that has some promise

[warped copper]

The ttk in this game is horrible

[marble orchid]

you sure it's scratch? There are other block code resources out there besides scratch

[desert elbow]

It's great

[marble orchid]

they could've just made their own

[amber kelp]

we dont know how far we can go with the subroutines. It certainly doesnt mean we can fully mod the game like the old refractor games

[warped copper]

The jet controls also arent so good

[solar tinsel]

I bet you can even program mag based reloads, something like: Store rounds left in magazine as a variable (x), and then on reload, subtract x from the total ammo pool, ***then ***reload.

[desert elbow]

That's your opinion

[amber kelp]

I am 100% sure that mag based reloads will be a premade option to pick and that you wont need to go through that. 1942 is in portal after all

[solar tinsel]

Ah good point!

[livid eagle]

Scratch was the originator, Snap is the berkeley alternative, everything started with Scratch though

[warped copper]

Ok this my last time telling u anything

[livid eagle]

Yeah but if they are letting us script sequences of events based off of conditions it’s pretty close, adding assets though definitely not

[desert elbow]

You literally didn't even elaborate on your TTK point and just switched to another topic, maybe stick to what you were saying

[solar tinsel]

The biggest question mark will be squad leader only spawn. Hopefully there is a "if SquadLeader=TRUE" sort of logic option

[amber kelp]

theyve said there isnt a script editor so Im left to assume that we'd make a subroutine in the same scratch like editor

[marble orchid]

But block code is just block code. It's easier for people to understand with stuff hitting you in the face with it. But with it, I'd expect it to let you have the same level of freedom overwatch has with its

[solar tinsel]

but my goal is just to make "BF2 as much as possible" even if it can't be perfect. My ulterior motive is to just catch on the idea of bringing BF2 maps back 😂

[marble orchid]

most likely. On the screenshot, it shows something like that

[warped copper]

Halo infinite definatley wont win goty

[mild sun]

how does everyone feel about hazard zone

[warped copper]

Neither will bf 2042

[amber kelp]

well in 3 and 4 we got Karkand, Oman, and Dragon Valley

[livid eagle]

the logic editor is a script editor, its a visual programming language

[solar tinsel]

Yeah, so? Doesn't mean I'm still not greedy 😂

[amber kelp]

I mean there is a good chance for them to be portal maps

[marble orchid]

you'll even be able to make BF into a super hardcore mil sim

[solar tinsel]

Now it's just a matter of picking TWO. I'd have to imagine Karkand WILL come back. I'd love to see Dalian Plant as #2 though

[livid eagle]

the portal logic editor is a script editor lol

[amber kelp]

something tells me I wont be able to do as much as I can by just writing code

[warped copper]

We are here to announce the game of the yr 2021 and the winner is

Drum roll

Splitgate
@amber kelp

[marble orchid]

you won't but you'll get a high degree of freedom to edit the game to your liking

[livid eagle]

writing code and dragging blocks are the same thing, not to argue semantics. It’s the capabilities they give you that matters with any programming language written or dragged

[marble orchid]

splitgate didn't retain it's playerbase

[solar tinsel]

and that is the thing: the capabilities they give

curious how much wiggle room we'll get

[livid eagle]

Well, they let you store variables, that was shown in a screenshot

[solar tinsel]

Right, so then it's a matter of, what type of data can be stored

[livid eagle]

exactly

[solar tinsel]

or "pulled" I guess from the game state

[warped copper]

Those ppl gave last of us part 2 goty last yr insteqd of ghosts of tsushima we know very well what thier capablw of

[amber kelp]

The real concern is how much of the game they will let you modify, rather than how deeply you can mod it

[arctic grove]

Proximity chat 😭

[solar tinsel]

I'd love it if squad size could be adjusted, but my gut is telling me that won't happen, if nothing else other than a UI limitation

[marble orchid]

They should really make a map editor as well

make it into a proper forge competitor

[warped copper]

No map editor included

[amber kelp]

especially since forge appears to also be getting a script editor

[solar tinsel]

Oddly enough, I think I don't have the same opinion on this.... maybe perhaps I just don't think I want to have all sorts of custom maps loaded up on a system just to play a mode

[livid eagle]

They are letting you change other aspects of soldiers so I hope squad sizes

[marble orchid]

forge is going to be one of the best free to play experiences considering how much creativity people have.

[livid eagle]

Right should I buy Halo Infinite?

[harsh furnace]

It’s free

[amber kelp]

multiplayer is free

[livid eagle]

wtf

When does it launch

[harsh furnace]

Campaign 60 bucks

[marble orchid]

If you want to play the campaign, but multiplayer is free. They haven't said anything about forge though

[solar tinsel]

Did 1942 have squads of 6 too? Maybe that's the only hail mary for at least 6 being possible

although I still doubt it 😦

[marble orchid]

forge will launch next year

[amber kelp]

dec 8.
Ive played it and it has no right being as good as it is.

[livid eagle]

Squads of 64 💀

[arctic grove]

Where can I find the feedback form?

[livid eagle]

forge free to play also?

[solar tinsel]

haha, UI would explode, as if it isn't already bad enough!

[arctic grove]

nvm

[amber kelp]

no squads at all

[solar tinsel]

See, I could see THAT happening and being possible

[harsh furnace]

Does halo got good anti cheat

[marble orchid]

probably but there's not much info about it and it'll be releasing next year

[solar tinsel]

Like my guess is squad size will be adjustable, but a value must be set between 0 and 4

[livid eagle]

Dec 8 someone said?

[marble orchid]

they're taking extra time on forge

[amber kelp]

or the campaign is a mess and they need to fix it first

[harsh furnace]

I didn’t play beta for halo but game doesn’t look good looks like past halos

[marble orchid]

Squad size will more than likely be changeable but the UI might look a little off

[livid eagle]

idc abt graphics

[amber kelp]

it is really fucking fun

[warped copper]

Then ur a problem to this industry

[marble orchid]

It's just forge. With the stuff theyre doing, they need the time

[solar tinsel]

Well thats why I think DICE may just cap it at 4, but heck, I'd love it if we got more

[buoyant trail]

I can imagine the chaos if BF had a map editor

[harsh furnace]

Exciting

[amber kelp]

idk, the lack of any campaign footage or news is a big red flag that something is wrong

[livid eagle]

Forge has visual scripter also, interesting!!

[marble orchid]

They'll probably have it as a moddable value of some sort

[harsh furnace]

What’s forge

[marble orchid]

eh, if you only care for the multiplayer, the campaign doesn't matter and forge is free

[solar tinsel]

I'd be all for it! If I can make my BF2 mode have 6 player squads I'll be a happy camper!

[buoyant trail]

I can see the troll maps already

[amber kelp]

Dod has a map called 2roomClusterfuck.
this map is 2 rooms and a large doorway between them. Everyone spawns in the two rooms, in view of eachother, for the full game.

I want this with 128 players

[buoyant trail]

Lmao

64v64 all spawn in the same room melee only

[marble orchid]

Or if squad size isn't a moddable value, you can just mod it in yourself

[solar tinsel]

You think there will be a way to mod around limitations? I have to imagine there will be some limitations there

[warped copper]

The best part about halos multiplayer

[solar tinsel]

I mean, to be clear: I'm saying keeping this within "spec", not a PC only mod, I mean

[harsh furnace]

Portal next gmod ?

[buoyant trail]

Forge was 85% of my time in reach

[marble orchid]

I wouldn't call it a limitation, more so an undefined variable

[warped copper]

No portals the next fortnite playground mode

[marble orchid]

Nah, it's not at the gmod level

its more like overwatch workshop

[warped copper]

What is that

[marble orchid]

game editor for overwatch

[buoyant trail]

I wouldn't mind if specialists were done like heros on battlefront 2

[amber kelp]

better example is custom gamemodes for older games except this time theyre easy to make

[warped copper]

Pay 2 win loot crates?

[marble orchid]

eh, I wouldn't say they're easier to make but you're given a ton more freedom if you have knowledge of coding

[proven igloo]

🤮 Battlefront was at it's best when it was just a Battlefield with a Star Wars skin.

[buoyant trail]

Only usable if you pass a certain score threshold so there aren't 50 grapplehooks

[desert elbow]

You must not have played Battlefront 2

[amber kelp]

older games required server plug ins to make custom modes so that does make it easier

[solar tinsel]

I'm admittedly no expert coder, but I've recently learned some basics with Javascript for After Effects... either way the visual blocks will likely help haha

[warped copper]

I have when it came out

[solar tinsel]

I'm hoping the few Java basics I've learned will help in some way

[buoyant trail]

Maybe it would help some people actually hold an objective

[desert elbow]

Then you would know that you can earn every hero

[warped copper]

Gets sniped by drone bitch with an anime skin

[amber kelp]

they do but they also simplify it. Probably not by an amount that will matter much.

[marble orchid]

here, you just need to know how to change a few variables and maybe you're able to share your code in a centralized area

[buoyant trail]

I already experienced that in bf4 with the suav

Or ucav?

[warped copper]

Maybe now but back then it would take 120 hours to earn atleast one hero

[marble orchid]

learn scratch, it's the best coding language and the most responsive. Way better than C++, C# or java

[amber kelp]

[desert elbow]

Back then

[buoyant trail]

Reject c++ embrace python

[warped copper]

Yes 2017

[solar tinsel]

Oh I have no intent whatsoever to learn any coding languages in-depth ha. I only learned the Java basics, again, out of necessity as that's what AE uses

[amber kelp]

reject modernity, learn C

[marble orchid]

game devs are screeching

[solar tinsel]

but I'll likely need to learn some basics as I go with Portals editor

[desert elbow]

...Yes...2017...

[desert elbow]

You could still earn them...

[marble orchid]

you're going to be surprised at what people make in portal if it's extensive then

[buoyant trail]

2017... I haven't heard that name for a long time

[short verge]

Specialists

[warped copper]

There is no editor u just change game rules and add ai thats it thats portal um can we have ur 60 pound plz

[marble orchid]

Imagine a headline a week after the game releases saying portal uses recreated squad in portal

[solar tinsel]

There is a logic editor for Portal

[warped copper]

Proof

[solar tinsel]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/game-overview/modes/battlefield-portal#anchor-2

[buoyant trail]

Can I logically edit the game to be better

[arctic grove]

weeb needs proof

[marble orchid]

https://www.gameinformer.com/interview/2021/07/22/ripple-effect-explains-how-battlefield-2042s-portal-works-and-coding-for

[worldly star]

they literally said so

[desert elbow]

I don't get why people are still upset about specialists even though you can edit them out in portal

[short verge]

www.proof.com

Huh

[buoyant trail]

Nice try proof apologist

[worldly star]

you need the https://

[fleet sinew]

How do I tell my parents that I identify as a Stuka dive bomber?

[amber kelp]

main issue would be the chat system. I doubt youll be able to mod in proxy chat.

[marble orchid]

because they're apart of the core mode and they have obvious issues.

[amber kelp]

because Id still like the base game to be good

[desert elbow]

There are 3 core modes

[buoyant trail]

Make the dive bomb sound as you run into the house

[desert elbow]

The base game includes portal

[marble orchid]

yeah, that's not happening

[amber kelp]

you know what I mean

[warped copper]

Well then bf 2042 won game of the yr

[marble orchid]

the core mode is all out warfare. the others are side modes

[desert elbow]

I don't lol

[fleet sinew]

I learned my sexuality as a Stuka Dove bomber after I played BFV

*dive

[desert elbow]

Not at all, either way you can edit them out

[buoyant trail]

Proxy Chat would be pretty poggers as you knife someone and hear the rage

[marble orchid]

yeah, but that doesn't mean specialists don't have obvious problems

[short verge]

We cant use new gadgets and weapon

[proven igloo]

Are you a 1000lbs bomb kinda guy or some sort of coward?

[amber kelp]

id like All Out Warfare to be a good gamemode

[solar tinsel]

I don't see Portal as a perfect solution to the core game, BUT I do think if there are ENOUGH specialists with enough role diversity, I think the issue people ultimately have will likely be reduced a bit.

With enough options, you can start building your own classes, in essence. It's just a matter of how long it takes DICE to get to that point of flexibility

[fleet sinew]

1000 all the way

[solar tinsel]

(Plus, a lot of specialist gadgets need to be balanced too - the syringe gun was poo poo)

[fleet sinew]

I’m a plane camper lol, I sit in the menu for minutes waiting for a Stuka or Mosquito lol

[marble orchid]

only 10 specialists at launch with many people running skins

[haughty dove]

wait is battle field 2042 not available on origin anymore

[radiant echo]

https://d34ymitoc1pg7m.cloudfront.net/bf4/campaign/levels/sp_08_big-c4bc34d2.jpg

[short verge]

Nope, still no classes

[marble orchid]

it is

[desert elbow]

That can be fixed

[short verge]

And obviously everyone will use the coolest skin

[marble orchid]

Yeah, which is why the devs should know of the core issues of specialists to fix them

[desert elbow]

Where does it say that?

[desert elbow]

It will be lol

[solar tinsel]

Well, skins aside I mean

[short verge]

After they fix specialists

[amber kelp]

not if they dont seriously rework the specialists

[desert elbow]

They know

[fleet sinew]

What if we got rid of characters and specialists? What if we just Play as Robot Dogs like in the trailer? It would solve the whole problem..

[short verge]

How do you know

[warped copper]

Bf 2042 game of the decade edition

[marble orchid]

@haughty dove its still on origins

[desert elbow]

Not at all, many people still like them

[short verge]

But many people dont like them

[solar tinsel]

Well here's the thing, what if you could MAKE the class you want, through specialists? I don't know what your dream class would be, but if one day there's a specialist who gets a unique rocket launcher, and then you put on a repair tool, you've now become something like an OG Engineer

[warped copper]

Halo infinite aint even got forged

[marble orchid]

Hopefully they do something about it and address it in the beta recap but now it's more of a redundant point to make

[solar tinsel]

I'm not sure if that build diversity will be where it needs to be though at launch

[amber kelp]

ive seen far more people hate them or want them reworked

[haughty dove]

ok

[desert elbow]

...Then edit them out?

[warped copper]

@haughty dove logan paul?

[desert elbow]

Cool, some people still like them

[fleet sinew]

E

[marble orchid]

thats's where two gadget slots come into play but we only had one for the beta

[amber kelp]

and most dont.

[short verge]

The game would be DOA if portal wasn't announced lmao

[warped copper]

This guys a douche lmao

[solar tinsel]

I did like an idea someone had though of picking a specialist AND a class. The specialist dictating what perk/trait you had, and the class dictating what gadgets you could choose from

[desert elbow]

Also we can use 2042 gadgets and weapons in portal

[worldly star]

they just need different versions for different teams

[solar tinsel]

So you could be Engineer Boris or Support Boris, etc.

[desert elbow]

You literally complained about ttk then cried when I disagreed lol

[desert elbow]

Some do

[marble orchid]

They're staying in the game whether you like it or not so they'll have to deal with it. If they don't like it, they can play portal

[amber kelp]

and I should care because?

[fleet sinew]

I want TTT in Portal tbh

[desert elbow]

because you're clearly crying about it and are somewhat pressed

[proven igloo]

You know specialists are basically what BFV archetypes were going to be. Which is weird because lots of people really wanted that system.

[marble orchid]

even some indicator like a red tape on enemies would work

[warped copper]

Go touch grass and eat it u dum cow

[marble orchid]

everyone's going to be rocking different skins anyway

[short verge]

I know but like cmon, the class system literally been in the game since the first title of the fucking franchise

[amber kelp]

hopefully.

[buoyant trail]

You mean everyone will just run the m4?

[desert elbow]

Keep crying about every little thing despite the fact you can change it in portal kiddo, you need to go outside lol

[short verge]

How do you know they wont fucking pick the blackest skin

[worldly star]

you both need to make some friends

[warped copper]

Whack ass comeback

[fleet sinew]

Canceled

[desert elbow]

You're still talking?

[amber kelp]

its not that the classes are good, its that its too late for dice to go back.

[marble orchid]

It's gone, but it's not gone since we have portal

[desert elbow]

Exactly

[solar tinsel]

I do agree, they're not going to go away. I really think DICE's approach will be:
1.) Actually making sure specalists are balanced and fufill solid teamplay roles
2.) Providing enough specialist choices to offer diverse build choices.

I think that will help, since I agree that I don't think it will be completely reverted.

[warped copper]

Youre still spewing nonsense ?

[scenic tartan]

all out warfare is only one mode in this game breh

[desert elbow]

keep going

[amber kelp]

regardless, they can and should be reworked.

[limber garden]

Wtf

[desert elbow]

Of course

[short verge]

Specialists are easy to monetize, that's why

Full price game with micro transaction kekw

[warped copper]

No im staying i want to hear ur stupid ass its hilarious

[scenic tartan]

Its entirely possible that people spend most of their time in portal and all out warfare is like its own separate thing

[limber garden]

"
What’s the difference between last-gen and next-gen versions of Hazard Zone?

Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation® 5 and PC users will be able to play with up to 32 players in a massive playspace, while Xbox One and PlayStation® 4 players will be able to play a version scaled for up to 24 players." 32 32 32 32 32 how come 32?

[solar tinsel]

@warped copper @desert elbow can you two just take it into PMs or something?

[amber kelp]

I hate that this is the norm now.

[solar tinsel]

sorry didnt mean to tag you Hobo

[fleet sinew]

It’s gonna be another siege where you spend lots of money of Characters

[desert elbow]

Sure

[marble orchid]

all dice needs to do is offer two gadgets like having a med crate and something like defibs and everyone will be happy except for the people who really dislike specialists

[scenic tartan]

@limber garden thats how the mode is designed its not a battle royale

[peak socket]

What do you guys think of hazard zone?

[solar tinsel]

I definitely think that can be one way to go about it, for sure!

[fleet sinew]

It’s cool

[amber kelp]

this would make for some broken combos

[short verge]

They based their game around specialists so it's easy to monetize

[worldly star]

theyre reducing player counts to compensate for the smaller maps on last gen

[harsh furnace]

It’s just extraction mode like extracting vips but now hardrives

[scenic tartan]

all out warfare could very well be the casual mode and portal is where you get the good battlefield fun

[desert elbow]

Most likely

[fleet sinew]

Fresher take on Battle Royale

[solar tinsel]

@marble orchid maybe ONE of those gadget slots is global, and another is class specific, based on the class of that specalist?

[peak socket]

Feels like a BR to me

[limber garden]

I think the maps will be combined

[peak socket]

which i dont like

[harsh furnace]

U havnt even played it

[solar tinsel]

I'd call it "Survival". It's Dark-Zone esque.

[peak socket]

BR is overrated

[worldly star]

no, its just one map on its own

[scenic tartan]

its more inspired by tarkov

[livid eagle]

At least 2042 won’t disrespect WW2 veterans like BF5 did

[scenic tartan]

its pvp but each squad has goals that dont require you to kill players and the map doesnt shrink

[peak socket]

I read the description and there was a storm in the mode

[solar tinsel]

It's definitely not a BR. It's not "last team standing", it's "be one of the teams to extract"

[limber garden]

Seperate map for hazardzone?

[desert elbow]

Bruh you can't be serious

[livid eagle]

I am serious

[worldly star]

no, just normal maps

[harsh furnace]

Yes like orbital but it doesn’t close down the area

[limber garden]

Fuxk

[amber kelp]

I can make some shit in portal that will make ww2 vets roll in their graves so fast we could power the city of Shanghai

[worldly star]

seriously stupid maybe

[marble orchid]

They could lock gadgets to the type of roles that were available in previous games, like having a med crate with a smoke launcher, or an rpg with a repair tool

[desert elbow]

Ah yes because Battlefield games have always been respectful and realistic

[scenic tartan]

The storms are there as a countdown before you're left behind

[proven igloo]

There's nothing respectful about using tragedy as purely entertainment, get off your high horse.

[fleet sinew]

I want a map that changes not like levolution but where a city gets destroyed so you move into a forest to fight or a smaller suburban neighborhood and it changed weather or time of day as well.

[marble orchid]

and specialists can be just that, people who specialize in what they do. Buff them in that regard and make them better with specific gadgets

[worldly star]

supposedly the game started as a br which explains the small scale destruction

[solar tinsel]

HZ uses all 7 BF2042 maps

[livid eagle]

I consider it disrespectful to use a WW1 emblem instead of a swastika & to portray women soldiers innacurately in a WW2 game perhaps you beg to disagree haha

[short verge]

Ah yes i remember ww2 soldier using jeeps to destroy ospreys

[scenic tartan]

Specialists should be powerful units like star wars battlefront heroes - but only in the all out warfare mode

[amber kelp]

disrespectful to use a WW1 emblem instead of a swastika

[peak socket]

But it kind of feels like hazard zone

[worldly star]

we get it, you like 1945 germany and hate women, cool, we dont care

[warped copper]

Nah its cool this bitch was just having hes period

[marble orchid]

nah, that was just a rumor that started on reddit

[peak socket]

the drivers are basically the loot.

[wide shore]

The destruction isn’t even small scale.

[desert elbow]

Ah yes who could forget people running through no mans land with 60kg machine guns with a quad barrelled shotgun secondary

[livid eagle]

what a terrible take?

[worldly star]

it isnt big either

[short verge]

Wtf you mean lmao

[peak socket]

so collect loot. Survive and get extracted

[desert elbow]

It's BC2 style from what we've seen

[solar tinsel]

I don't know if there's "loot drops" in HZ, not like scattered randomly....

[wide shore]

It’s no more or less than BFV or BF1

[warped copper]

Battle royale

[livid eagle]

@worldly star dont accuse me of sexism when all I asked for was historical accuracy haha

[scenic tartan]

BF2042 breakthru will feel totally different than the all out warfare

[solar tinsel]

I mean, unless you're referring to the data drives

[wide shore]

In-fact it has the best foliage destruction since BC2

[scenic tartan]

all out warfare isn't even conquest

[eternal valley]

not a battle royale

[short verge]

Do people play games for its accuracy to the real world

[worldly star]

didnt ask

[warped copper]

It is did u see that trailer those ppl had money bags
Plunder confirmed

[marble orchid]

Nah, he just thinks that the game should've been handled better. He's not complaining about the women in 2042

[solar tinsel]

and I mean, picking up gear isn't indicative of Battle Royale either. That shit's been around since OG shooter games, "pickups" Goldeneye, Timesplitters, etc.

[amber kelp]

youre the one pointing to the edgy criss cross first in a game that has the wrong factions in battles and uniforms from the cold war
Interesting priorities

[harsh furnace]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-Announcements/Battlefield-Briefing-Exploring-Battlefield-Hazard-Zone/m-p/10803220?cid=70873&ts=1634274561141&utm_campaign=bf2042_hd_ww_ic_socd_twt_core-hazard-zone&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter#M21

[livid eagle]

that’s the tip of the iceberg lol i agree so many things wrong with the gams

[short verge]

Bfv better + ratio + dead on arrival without portal

[harsh furnace]

Good article explaining hazard zone

[marble orchid]

Honestly, we should've gotten an eastern front for BF5

[worldly star]

dude saw all the experimental weapons in the game that were never in widespread use and said "women is where i draw the line of historical inaccuracy"

[warped copper]

Rick roll of the decade

[livid eagle]

dont make me bring staff in lol

[short verge]

Even bf1 was using experimental weapon

[eternal valley]

what is plunder

[marble orchid]

There were like 5 buildings in the one map we had

[worldly star]

yeah, doesnt mean it was accurate

[scenic tartan]

people who whined about "BUT THE WIMMEN" doomed BFV and killed it off early

[wide shore]

And that experimental weaponry is awesome.

[smoky hatch]

Bf2042>bf5>bf4>bf1

[harsh furnace]

I love women I play as them

[amber kelp]

Portraying the young, scared men sent to die in ww1 as stoic men in power armor: based, authentic, immersive
People with tits: offensive, unimmersive, making vets roll in their graves

[worldly star]

and all the destruction on them was kinda lame

[scenic tartan]

BFV was just getting awesome and it was killed off because of online trolls and losers

[short verge]

That's what makes it awesome, imagine just rifle lmao

[eternal valley]

You are doing heroin if you think thats right

[marble orchid]

Dice said if you didn't like it, don't buy it

[warped copper]

Its a mode in warzone were u extract ureself and money

[smoky hatch]

What’s yours?

[eternal valley]

bf4>2042>bf1>bf5

[harsh furnace]

Why money

[scenic tartan]

the same losers are trying to tank 2042

[wide shore]

I wouldn’t even rank 2042 cause it ain’t out yet.

[amber kelp]

bfv was doomed because it had no clear vision and was broken. Regardless of women it was simply a bad game

[harsh furnace]

Blame the youtubers

[eternal valley]

I can really rate 2042 since it aint out

[livid eagle]

women didnt serve in the american/german army in combat in ww2 and with the americans it could be said they did but in such miniscule numbers and only in a supporting role.

experimental weapons that fit the time period I am okay with, but when someone says “immersive ww2” and has a bionic arm woman alongside french soldiers I am going to take that as unrealistic hahah

[warped copper]

Just

[eternal valley]

but it looks good

[marble orchid]

I don't want buildings falling down. There was already little cover in that map and then there'd be even less

[grave light]

#game-news message

What does the *Only in Battlefield.. refer to? I don't see any other *

[scenic tartan]

people who just hate EA and want internet reddit points for dunking on a game every year

[grave light]

Or do they not know how that works?

[livid eagle]

Don’t call me sexist, call the WW2 culture sexist, I just want immersion 😄

[worldly star]

you never played as metal arm woman

[warped copper]

Hazard zone has weather physics

[short verge]

Who says bfv was an immersive ww2

[river trench]

Is hazard zone good?

[worldly star]

and those prosthetic arms DID exist in the time

[harsh furnace]

They are adding more cover to orbital

[scenic tartan]

bfv was an immserive pacific theater

[proven igloo]

Community asked for Battlefield to be a live service game, community proceeded to get said service killed off early.

[warped copper]

Worst bf game.imo

[amber kelp]

they still wouldnt have made sense

[livid eagle]

prosthetic claw arms didnt get fielded in ww2 LMFAO

[smoky hatch]

Ur high bf4 isn’t that good it’s all nostalgia I bought it yesterday and it’s really not that good

[marble orchid]

the bionic arm lady wasn't in the final game but it was a poor trailer

[harsh furnace]

It is tho

[wide shore]

BF1>BC2>BF3>BFV>BF4>BFH

[eternal valley]

Its fun as hell

[worldly star]

neither did the experimental weapons you were justifying.

[haughty dagger]

Yup, but they’ll say “we just want the best game there can be” while also saying the game is dead on release if it isn’t changed how they want it.

[scenic tartan]

lmao yeah @proven igloo everybody complained about premium, then we got a game short on content in response

[short verge]

In your opinion. BFV has overall better gameplay than 2042 imo

[eternal valley]

bfv is not that high

[marble orchid]

It gets killed off right when they were doing good stuff for it

[harsh furnace]

How do you know game hasn’t released yet

[warped copper]

Ur right but at the same time u r wrong

[livid eagle]

I think experimental weapons are an okay boundary to cross especially when it comes to gameplay

[worldly star]

just say you hate women and move on dude, this isnt worth it

[short verge]

FULL PRICE game with micro transaction and battle pass kekw

[amber kelp]

weve played it

[wide shore]

It is on my list.

[scenic tartan]

I would say BFV has better gameplay than the 2042 beta we got as it was. But that doesn't mean much

[harsh furnace]

U played beta not the final game

[smoky hatch]

Bf5 has better movement and graphics then bf4

[livid eagle]

i think they should have limited women to factions where it made sense, like the russians or Norwegian rebels etc

[amber kelp]

yeah Im sure the gunplay will fundamentally change in a few eeeks

[worldly star]

oh but the CHARACTER MODEL is where we draw the line. the thing that affects the game the least. THATS the deal breaker

[eternal valley]

Its almost like it was released later then bf4

[scenic tartan]

like the final BFV with all the updates and patches is better than the old, unfinished 2042 beta lmao what does that even mean

[warped copper]

Yes gameplay wise its cod imo it lacks vehicles

[harsh furnace]

Obviously it can doesn’t take that long to change

[marble orchid]

eh, it's unfair to compare a finished product to what we played

[grave light]

Dice themselves told us to expect the release-experience from the beta

[smoky hatch]

Well yeah I played both games rn not on release

[livid eagle]

Yes. I play games to be immersed in a universe + the action, if a WW2 game isn’t accurate to me I don’t enjoy it, whats there to criticize?

[eternal valley]

Your basing it off graphics

[wide shore]

Only real problem I have with BFV in its current state, is they broke conquest into 2 playlists. I just want to play all maps

[harsh furnace]

What article that from

[scenic tartan]

@grave light dont make things up

[worldly star]

theres nothing to criticize because they didnt say it was going to be accurate. play something else

[eternal valley]

They are 5 years apart

[solar tinsel]

yeah: not only that, but a product that has received updates for, how many years?

[smoky hatch]

I’m basing it off gameplay and a little bit of graphics

[warped copper]

Ok ofcourse its not gonna be that good now because u played it back then

[grave light]

Pretty sure they said that in the beta info article

[short verge]

Wdym, i had a blast driving my stukas and tanks

[livid eagle]

exactly! People didn’t like the historical accuracies so they didnt buy the game!

[eternal valley]

I thought you basing it on movement?

[smoky hatch]

Movement is gameplay

[eternal valley]

Gunplay?

[marble orchid]

battlefield 5 was one of the most barebones products at launch

[scenic tartan]

everybody knows you BFV wimmin haters and what your motives are

[smoky hatch]

Gunplay was good

[worldly star]

yet here you are pissing yourself over the fact that the game wasnt to your tastes even though you knew it wouldnt be

[warped copper]

R u honestly stupid

[amber kelp]

1 year then it was canned

[harsh furnace]

Movement was good gunplay was awesome

[eternal valley]

how

[worldly star]

are we done?

[solar tinsel]

Was one of the few mainline BF games I didn't buy actually

[scenic tartan]

Still trying to defend getting upset cause of women soldiers lmao

[warped copper]

Uwu

[marble orchid]

game was good at the end but by then, they cut support

[harsh furnace]

Bf5 was fun I still play it soemtimes to snipe

[livid eagle]

they legit said “authentic immersive ww2 experience “ at the launch conferences dont lie to your self, anyone would assume they meant realistic especially when WW1 was quite immersive lol

[scenic tartan]

yall clowned yourself and killed off a good game

[worldly star]

ive had this argument like 4 times too many in my lifetime

[amber kelp]

bfv would have failed regardless.
it was not well made or designed

[scenic tartan]

everybody laughs at the "historically inaccurate" people with BFV

[smoky hatch]

+ =

[warped copper]

No one cares go back to the seniour centre grandpa

[broken sparrow]

React to this if venom after scene credit was a nut buster

[wide shore]

You know what’s crazy? If you don’t like the women in BFV, you can just switch all your characters to males.

[harsh furnace]

? Why you being rude

[solar tinsel]

Wait didn't BFV release in 2018?

must have at least been nearly 2 years, right?

[harsh furnace]

Yes

[scenic tartan]

BFV had its balance issues at launch just like every BF does

[solar tinsel]

of support/updates

[eternal valley]

stop being a dick

[grave light]

Anyway still, what does the *Only in Battlefield refer to? There is literally no other *. Doe they seriously not know how that works?

[stone steppe]

[worldly star]

i play as all female characters lol

[warped copper]

True

[marble orchid]

yeah

[warped copper]

Uwu

[solar tinsel]

Don't mind them, they just be trollin' and arguing with everyone who's come in here

[next onyx]

Actually I set most of my characters to female as well

[harsh furnace]

Yassss

[eternal valley]

yeah I know

[scenic tartan]

i like seeing a hot female medic reviving me

[next onyx]

Only ones that aren't is my British Assault and Support

[proven igloo]

My Japanese sniper is a woman.

[warped copper]

Question is are u also set to female irl

[marble orchid]

i set most of mine to generic default bullet sponges

[worldly star]

but do you really notice it? like if youre truly immersed and into the game, do you even notice the gender of the enemy youre shooting at?

[amber kelp]

it was about one and a half years of updates
thought the last few updates were just dice dusting off cut or unfinished stuff before the service was canned
the first year was also rough to say the least

[smoky hatch]

Bf2042 is just bf4 with better movement graphics and bigger maps

[livid eagle]

Look, idc what people think, I play games to have fun. I’m glad some people had fun with BFV but I am a history buff, BFV didnt hit me right with how they portrayed the climate (women, cold war clothing, weapons, scandinavian mix up , improper german identity etc), so I didn’t enjoy the game. Stay mad lol

[eternal valley]

Worse movement imo

[wide shore]

All mine are males. Only cause I wanted to make my squads all accurate. I love seeing other players women soldiers though! It doesn’t bother me in any way

[stone steppe]

Bigger maps doesn’t always mean better lol

[livid eagle]

we buy games to have fun lets not alienate eachother for our tastes

[eternal valley]

Sliding sucks

[desert elbow]

You are the one that sounds mad tbh

[marble orchid]

I mean, if you have some women on your team screaming her lungs out, you're bound to notice it

[worldly star]

youre the one crying about women in a video game

[arctic grove]

cap

[smoky hatch]

I love sliding when I bought bf4 I was shocked it didn’t have slide

[worldly star]

no different than the male screams

[short verge]

Keep crying

[livid eagle]

I was giving my reason for not liking the game I’m not mad, I do think it’s disrespectful

[elfin herald]

Same, they have usually a smaller hitbox

[next onyx]

When i went back to hardline i tried to slide by instinct

[amber kelp]

it just blended into the background after a while

[smoky hatch]

I think it’s better

[next onyx]

Yeah nah that wasn't happening

[desert elbow]

Any ww2 game is disrespectful to an extent

[warped copper]

Yh it goes with variety

[proven igloo]

Does anyone actually have the time to inspect everyone else in BFV? They've always been blurs of gray, green, and tan because I'm more concerned in shooting them dead.

[livid eagle]

Any war game is disrespectful your point is?

[wide shore]

I tried tactical sprinting multiple times playing BFV yesterday.

[eternal valley]

more spread out maps means less chaos and less fun. Less destruction

[solar tinsel]

I actually am probably in the minority, but I actually liked Orbital.

People were saying "too much empty space", and I don't know that was honestly some of the magic of the older BF maps

[next onyx]

I usually know what outfits my side has over the others

[desert elbow]

What's YOUR point? lmao

[next onyx]

Germans have a darker shade of green

[worldly star]

hundreds of millions died or something and were here making games out of it for entertainment, is that respectful at all?

[marble orchid]

they are women and adding women isn't immersive for him so he would notice it

[warped copper]

Shes got a point

[next onyx]

with grey

Looking like rocks

[smoky hatch]

I liked it too it just sucks there isn’t 128 players on old gen which is what I played

[next onyx]

British are often enough brown and a lighter olive green

[livid eagle]

I think its the thought when it came to pandering to women in ww2 that set me off. Gameplay wise it was meh for me. I do not support the idea of “revisited histories”, so games that do this I tend not to play.

Does this satisfy you?

[marble orchid]

I'm never by my team so I couldn't hear them

[shadow monolith]

Tf?

[worldly star]

so it IS the women

[livid eagle]

That’s one factor yes

[solar tinsel]

Ah, hope you can find a new console soon if you're looking for it.

[desert elbow]

What does having women do with gameplay?

[eternal valley]

The antarctica map is going to be fucking massive and means the combat would be so spread out

[livid eagle]

It’s not the sole factor obviously

[worldly star]

it is

[smoky hatch]

Was hoping to get a pc but with the shortage it ain’t happening

[livid eagle]

I forgot you can read my mind

[marble orchid]

gameplay was possibly the best in the series besides 1's gameplay

[warped copper]

@livid eagle @worldly star stop aguing cant u see ur tearing us apart

[livid eagle]

I didn’t like it coming from 1

[worldly star]

not hard since youre nothing more than a talking headache

[shadow monolith]

lmao

[livid eagle]

rlly

[short verge]

"immersion"

[marble orchid]

slower pace?

[amber kelp]

usually in a BF map the empty space is on the outside of the map. In orbital, its the middle or between points.

[wide shore]

Careful praising 1’s gameplay.

[worldly star]

i liked bf1

[solar tinsel]

BF2 would beg to disagree. There were plenty of maps that had traversal between flags, where engagements would rarely happen between them

[eternal valley]

same

[desert elbow]

The game doesn't have to be realistic to be immersive

[warped copper]

We all did

[short verge]

It's what they say

[solar tinsel]

While some maps did have close combat between two points, I see this represented by the sectors in 2042 with multiple points

[warped copper]

Yh but it needs immersion to be realistic

[worldly star]

3 i think is the best but its hard to go back to nowadays

[wide shore]

BF1 is my favorite BF game. But you say you like the gameplay, and some people will write a book about the bullet spread.

[next onyx]

After playing bf5 my enjoyment for the other games went down

[livid eagle]

I didn’t like Bf5 because:

• cheaters came up a lot at least in my experience
• I like historical relevancy in games, women + improper factions + censorship ruined it for me
• I got bored from the game and my groups I usually play with Didnt like the game so I didn’t have fun

See? I Have a opinion thats why I didn’t like the game lol

[worldly star]

shitty launcher on pc, the console version being the console version

[amber kelp]

granted I found vehicles to be easier to get to in 1942 and bf4 than in 2042

[desert elbow]

...but it's not meant to be realistic, that's the point. BF1 wasn't realistic yet it's one of the most immersive games out there

[marble orchid]

people say it plays like battlefront which I don't notice at all. Gunplay sounds good and movement gets you where you need to go. An the game is just immersive overall

[stone steppe]

Honestly I didn’t care for Orbital, it felt needlessly large with so much empty space. And it’s a little worrying that it’s the map they chose to show off for the beta.

[desert elbow]

Still though

[amber kelp]

bf1 wasnt immersive

[solar tinsel]

That is a fair point, I found it hard to find vehicles AT control points too

[desert elbow]

It definitely was

[next onyx]

Break away and Hourglass are the maps i'm most excited for

[worldly star]

i like how to prove your point that your issue with the game wasnt women, the first issue you listed was women

[eternal valley]

One of the smaller maps btw

[solar tinsel]

I know there's the call in and all, but I think most points should have some jeeps at least

[marble orchid]

last gen versions of orbital feel better gameplay wise as it's smaller

[livid eagle]

Because it was a major immersion breaking thing for me

[next onyx]

Sundance is gonna be popular for sure

[wide shore]

[warped copper]

Wth are u even saying

[amber kelp]

hot take: none of the BF games are that immersive.

[torpid shuttle]

I just know... Sundance is woman....

[desert elbow]

Bro what are you even saying? I'm speaking english

[smoky hatch]

Thoughts on ww3

[stone steppe]

Yeah, heard it was medium sized. Hoping the other maps won’t just be an empty hill. It just didn’t feel as fun

[wide shore]

I’m excited for Manifest

[next onyx]

The irony about that hobo is that they can actually suck you in when the games play extremely well

[warped copper]

I is english

[livid eagle]

experimental weapons? Seems okay for a video game. Altering history? Goes too far for a WW2 experience that’s all I’ll say on the matter @worldly star im glad you enjoyed the game though

[next onyx]

YO i'm also excited for Manifest, forgot its name.