battlefield-2042

[flint jay]

Camping forever

[stiff pollen]

And they’ve all been met with universal hate

[sullen inlet]

Lemon got lemonaded

[waxen umbra]

Huh, how so? Genuinely asking

[flint jay]

You didn't like it?

[quartz jay]

Snipers werent a problem in the beta idc.

[stiff pollen]

Snipers weren’t an issue

[hidden wren]

id totally be down for a ghost recon future soldier remake tbh

[radiant prism]

Yeah, I really only got sniped a handful of times

[tribal wyvern]

How is snipers using a syringe a "yikes"

[arctic grove]

who tf would ever use a sniper, ak has the same range lol

[hard root]

The premise of this game is literally an All in one BF. If you get bored in all out warfare, than play some sweaty Hazard zone, if you are burned out there aswell, than go and chill in portal, aaaaand if you dont want to play portal anymore, the days is gone anyway

[flint jay]

I hated it at first but after I played odyssey I grew to prefer it

[prisma pier]

BF2042 UI is terrible, yet it is fit with the game's theme. It gave you a feeling of technological broken, blackout, EMP effect, glitchy kind of that stuff. So information it relays to you is broken and hard to read.

[radiant prism]

I got sniped much less in 2042 than in any other game

[gleaming kettle]

Oddysey? Yeah i liked the story but to call it a Assassin Creed parkour no

[flint jay]

Well you become Maria with a syringe and get a sniper

[knotty iron]

got valhalla for 2 weeks now

[sullen inlet]

Because sniping sucks atm

[quartz jay]

Literally same

[urban olive]

more targets to shoot at lol

[exotic scroll]

Here is the thing….. They put the engineer when you can ONLY!!! Pick the repair tool or the AT rocket… What do you thing picked????

[arctic grove]

all glitches in cyberpunk are actually the matrix glitching, 10/10 immersion

[waxen umbra]

Yes..?

[flint jay]

How was the parkour different? It's not the same but it's pretty similar

[arctic grove]

its completely different

[tight abyss]

Im referring to the RU transport, it looks like a attack helicopter and it is a attack helicopter

[flint jay]

Yeah and if someone snipes you, you just syringe, back to full health almost instantly and back to action

[tribal wyvern]

Most people picked rocket cuz repair tool is a lot less useful unless you're a tank player

[exotic scroll]

No no you can go sniper with a heal syringe and a ammo box!

[hard root]

And jeez bois, the beta wasnt ready at all, many of its issues are already fixed, according to the "known issues" tread on the official site

[urban olive]

I missed the EOD bot..

[waxen umbra]

So snipers are still a nuisance. What else is new?

[stiff pollen]

The Hind is a transport/gunship hybrid

[tribal wyvern]

Ok, and?

[hard root]

It will be good

[hollow bay]

https://youtu.be/eSsc1K27gek

[stiff pollen]

As per Russian doctrine

[solemn latch]

Ngl this game would be 5x better with the old gadget system

[quartz jay]

they arent hes talking out of his ass.

[flint jay]

It makes them more a nuisance, that's the point

[hard root]

You will have it portal

[exotic scroll]

So what happened to the times when I got repaired by randoms???

[vocal tusk]

C5 was more useful to how I play, mostly cos when i heard helis...I ran for cover

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Hazard Zone Trailer
Premieres <t:1634223600:R>

[gleaming kettle]

Buildings being spaced out which, cites were small, most parkour i gotten was scaling the wall to get into some sort of keep through a back door i heard gotten worser in Valhalla and completly demished parkour.

[tribal wyvern]

Things change

[pliant knot]

a mix between BFV and BF4 sniping, big bullet drop but more bullet speed and faster mobility, really liked it

[hollow bay]

Battlefield friends are back for 2042!!!

[flint jay]

And as someone else mentioned, they can now use ammo boxes

[exotic scroll]

So what’s the point for calling for ammo??? So what’s the point of a medic??

[tribal wyvern]

If you picked a non medic specialist with no ammo box that's why you would lmao

[pliant knot]

but it doesn’t have missiles, just the passenger with the turrets and the OP grenade launcher

[flint jay]

Specialists abolish the requirement for different classes

[quartz jay]

Why everytime I come here its people bitching about the game thats not released yet

[tribal wyvern]

People picked mackay with a rocket a lot

[stiff pollen]

Bullet velocity in BF2042 should be fast but have drag that dissuades extreme sniping unless you calculate bullet drop

[waxen umbra]

As far as compelling arguments against the new class system go, this is not exactly one of them..?

[exotic scroll]

A proof of a brain washed person….
“ Things changed “
When he can’t answer a simple Battlefield sense.

[pliant knot]

Couldn’t agree more

[flint jay]

You no longer need a medic or need a engineer to take out a tank or need a recon guy to snipe far away targets because anyone can do anything

That doesn't promote team play

[sullen inlet]

Mckay was so much fun that I didnt even play falck once as a medic main XD

[gleaming kettle]

well you can do that in BFV as well revive to full health

[radiant prism]

I fail to acknowledge anyone who uses "brainwashing" as part of their argument or needs the other side to "wake up"

[tribal wyvern]

Mate you think it's useless to vall for ammo or health when people picked non medic specialists without ammo or health more than medic ones

[tranquil kettle]

did y all receive the survey from ea (talking about removing specialists)?

[vocal tusk]

Can you stop calling people brain washed...its not very respectful, or in keeping with the rules of this server

[stiff pollen]

Boris can use a sentry to cover his ass while he snipes and if a heli comes to pester him he can pull out a stinger. What’s not to like

[tight abyss]

It has empty rocket pods iirc

[radiant prism]

At that point, your argument centers around "your point is not mine, therefore it is wrong"

[solemn latch]

Dice basically said with this game that we should just get rid of the squad mechanics, make everyone a one man army, and immersion doesn’t matter

[tight abyss]

or missile pods

[urban olive]

The EOD bot tho needs some upgrades for the new 2042 tho. Make it much quicker, c4/mine options for anti vehicle/ people and a slightly ranged electrical attack this time (so less like a knife range killer)

[tribal wyvern]

You're the one with shit logic here, calling others brianwashed for disagreeing with you

[stiff pollen]

Let’s be real dice fully expects more squad play to occur in hazard zone than in AOW

[tribal wyvern]

Fax

[exotic scroll]

Yes! So you telling me the teamwork is gone??

[gleaming kettle]

I like how LMG's have AP rounds which helps bring down a tank but its not the fastest route compared to RPG

[quartz jay]

its not but ok!

[pliant knot]

bruh well design issues but you get my point of balancing both factions vehicles, chad Osprey vs virgin Transport Heli

[solemn latch]

People didn’t do that with bf1

[tribal wyvern]

It's not but ok, you're calling people brainwashed so not like the rest of the shit you say has any weight

[sullen hull]

oh they did

[flint jay]

I was just saying that because of this it makes campers way more annoying and self-sustained so they can last longer. We started talking about this because you asked why I said a sniper with a healing syringe is yikes

[waxen umbra]

I dont know how I could care that snipers will do this. In current BFs, they just redeploy when they run out or find some ammo somewhere and go back to sniping again.

[prisma pier]

Bullet velocity of 870+ meters per sec. would be fine but it also depends on caliber too.

[exotic scroll]

Well got to go but like I said before if the sales went worst that BF5 I will lmfao day and night!!

[brittle geyser]

Yeah I really don't understand people who are saying that 2042 has no teamplay, like if you took a look at all of the specialists in the game you will find that they serve a more unique function than classes in the previous games

[radiant prism]

People do it with every BF, they get furious any time DICE tries something new or something isn't quite literally copy-pasted from a previous game

[solemn latch]

@sullen hull no people were happy it wasn’t going the exo route and being unique

[tribal wyvern]

This, i revived a lot of people and healed who i could and in one match my swuad constantly revived me

[tight abyss]

people on reddit babyrage over every release and proceed to circlejerk around it on how its the best game ever fast forward 8 years later

[vocal tusk]

Teamwork was just fine TBH...we just need the specialists who can distribute ammo/who can repair (And Falcks heal pistol to be reworked)

[pliant knot]

BF1 was taking a big risk going to WW1 and it was a complete success, there’s no reason for 2042 to flop, they got the ingredients and know what their community want, but somehow trashed the formula

[flint jay]

If you play BF4 and you have encountered people camping roofs you should be aware

[tribal wyvern]

Someone else reqlized this cycle!!!! Omg!!!

[urban olive]

I didn't see much teamwork in the Beta besides people using it for spawns lol

[glossy storm]

I don't really have a teamwork experience in BF4...

[sullen hull]

well, to this day there are several bf1 haters out there

[waxen umbra]

Yes well I pull out the XM25 and deal with them

[radiant prism]

BF1 does have legitimate flaws, yknow.

[rocky jewel]

How do i do successfully/when

[gleaming kettle]

the lonewolf was basicially inspired by the in-game communication restrictions, once people learned of MacKay grapple hook it became a stapled meta

[tight abyss]

BF1 was unique because theres theres almost no games that cover the WW1 era

[flint jay]

Except now they can syringe so your XM25 is useless

[tribal wyvern]

Imma watch yt

[hidden wren]

which one you need

[radiant prism]

And no, I'm not gonna say "BF1 bad because not BF4", I've got my own problems with BF4

[rocky jewel]

Hazard

[solemn latch]

@sullen hull well some people just don’t like the game and if they give good reasons and aren’t just haters their opinion is justified

[sullen hull]

so does every game, show me an absolute perfect game with no flaws

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Hazard Zone Trailer
Premieres <t:1634223600:R>

[tight abyss]

As do other BF titles

[hidden wren]

if you /when go through the menu that pops up has a description behind it to see what it does

[radiant prism]

I won't, because it doesn't exist. My biggest gripe is people pretending BF1 is that game

[vocal tusk]

"OMG...why does there have to be an animation for EVERYTHING"

r/Battlefield - November 10th, 2018

[brittle geyser]

Falck is the only character in the game who can revive downed non-squad players. And the only one who revives to full health.

People played a lot of mckay because the grapple hook was fun, but it was hardly the solution for every situation in the game

[sullen hull]

yeah, but when I say haters I mean people who hate the game just to hate it

[arctic grove]

bf1 is the only battlefield game where melee doesnt make me wanna tear out my hair

[rocky jewel]

Its says i do not have the permission to do that

[dawn cedar]

people always act like the previous iteration of the game is the best version whenever the subsequent version is released

[rocky jewel]

But thanks you

[radiant prism]

While I do think BFV was underappreciated...its still kinda humorous to see the complete 180 reddit has taken on it in the span of all of a week

[pliant knot]

Yea but there’s a reason for that, WW1 don’t have half the things WW2 along with how the war was fought, so adapting BF1 to WW1 and BF experience was difficult and they still nailed it

[hidden wren]

right forgot you need a "regular" role for that

[urban olive]

In 2042 I dropped down on someone with a chute then punched them twice for a kill lol

[sullen hull]

im not pretending it tho, (not that you said I was), I just think its very good but not perfect

[tight abyss]

and then they downgraded it in BFV, every melee except heavy is useless

[radiant prism]

That's fair

[rocky jewel]

Oh, thats why when i had nitro i could do that, thanks

[radiant prism]

This is just false, its very much the same dynamic.

[dawn cedar]

Yeah i loved getting sniped across the maped by prone MG users

[radiant prism]

The knife is better in a lot of ways, actually

[prisma pier]

Imagined BFV customization in BF2042 where you just select soldier's face and that's it. They are different now. (I don't own BFV so I'm not sure in-depths of it)

[hidden wren]

tbh i prefer bc2's melee out of all

[urban olive]

i miss the 🔪

[gleaming kettle]

I played with Boris alot. The sentry felt weak compared to the other classes, i stuck with MacKay or Falck

[tight abyss]

Clubs that do 35 damage? The fuck they did 48 damage in BF1

[hollow lodge]

When the next BF game drops in 2 or so years, everyone will be talking about how much they loved BF 2042

It’s a cycle

[radiant prism]

When it comes to takedown ranges though, its pretty much identical

[tranquil kettle]

you should buy bfv its very good rn and its only 6$ on steam

[waxen umbra]

If syringe were to become available in BF4, yes maybe. The game was not designed around such things.
As for BF2042... Look, DICE has been making Battlefield games for 2 decades. They know a thing or two about balancing. We have yet to see the whole range of utilities available for dealing with things such as rooftop snipers.

[tight abyss]

takedown ranges dont matter if their back isnt facing you

[dawn cedar]

its more so area denial, people run out in the open, get lit up by the sentry and then scurry back behind cover

[rocky jewel]

6-9€ on playstation

[tranquil kettle]

yeah it is 100% worth it

[stuck hollow]

1440p high , 130-170 ? Impossible

[pliant knot]

lmao, not because 2042 launches I’ll say how much I loved BFV, if a game’s bad then it’s bad

[tranquil kettle]

at launch it was meh but now bfv is very good

[radiant prism]

Then why do I get side and front melees all the time?

[urban olive]

It also spots them for a few secs for everyone around you and you can see them thru walls for a short time

[brittle geyser]

I thought the sentry was quite nice actually, you just had to dedicate yourself to defending flags or areas rather than aggressing. (and use it for spotting more so than fragging)

The specialists are just subclasses that you could make with gadgets from previous games, plus some new ones like boris who still fit within player archetypes

[radiant prism]

Lets not go down the route of very specific scenarios or false inevitabilities that fit a specific narrative

[gleaming kettle]

well the thing about the sentry is that once noticed its easy to take down, by strafing right/left behind corner the sentry just stands there. Easy target and doesn't really feel that defensive to keep enemy at bay

[stuck hollow]

Why people claims that they reached 130+ on bf 2042 ??

[dawn cedar]

yeah, its actually pretty good for what it is. especially if you like to use a sniper, it can alert your flanks

[sterile flint]

I liked the sentry but seemed pretty weak. LOTS of bullets to kill anyone and most people just ducked back out of it's view well in time

[tight abyss]

A knife isnt gonna instant someone with 48 health left, but a heavy will

[solemn latch]

You wanna know how to make everyone in this community like this game, bring back classes and make specialists like classes battlefront heroes

[scenic minnow]

[tranquil kettle]

thats because you play on lowest the game had poor cpu optimisation and the lower settings you use the more the game is bottlenecked by the cpu the higher the settings the more gpu it uses

[urban olive]

yeah

[hidden wren]

i dont really feel like its tool is ment to keep people at bay, rather than just spot targets by tagging them, same with the robo dogs

[arctic grove]

also anyone who says sentry smg is the best elite class is fucking lying

[radiant prism]

So you soften them up first, just like BF1

[arctic grove]

i hate the smg so much

[gleaming kettle]

I mean the Ranger was better in defense compared to the Sentry, the Sentry should be a little beefier since its stationary compared to ranger

[brittle geyser]

It def doesn't kill people like a sentry in TF2, but the spotting feature it had gives boris a pretty big edge in defensive situations

[tranquil kettle]

thats not your fps, thats the fps that the gpu render but check fps cpu renders

[tight abyss]

i still have disdain for the club nerf in BFV

[vocal tusk]

Same FPS as was shown by Nvidias overlays...who do I believe here?

[dawn cedar]

Dosnt need to keep people at bay, if it can delay a flank (due to people thinking people are watching it when they pop around the corner), or alert you when someone is in a specific location, its done a lot

[radiant prism]

I've mained clubs for a while now on BFV and done just fine, so I dunno what to tell you.

[stuck hollow]

How ?

[foggy halo]

What are your PC specs?

[tranquil kettle]

alright then ... from my experience the in game one was very glitched ig it works for you

[sterile flint]

sure when looking at the minimap, but when you have time to get shot, orient, and kill it while it's shooting you, maybe it's not quite enough

[brittle geyser]

Plus it is something boris will always have, whereas the robot dog you need to call in and there can only be so many

[stuck hollow]

3080

[vocal tusk]

5900x / 3080 / 32gb 3800 c15 RAM

[rocky jewel]

Talking about fps and stuff, at what res did 2042 run on ps5? I experienced very good graphics (aside from bugs) but i want to know

[stiff pollen]

What processor

[tribal wyvern]

Im gonna play warzone as filler fron when i get my new pc to 2042 release, then im dumping the hot garbage piece of shit

[pliant knot]

fucking make a RU faction osprey, I don’t want the transport heli I want Osprey

[brittle geyser]

it marks players with an outline in the game though? It literally gives wallhacks and a heads up on an enemy

[stuck hollow]

Thats my specs and barely reach 110

[stiff pollen]

Oh nvm

[tranquil kettle]

5900x

[stiff pollen]

Yeah a 5900x will do it

[urban olive]

If they let you replace the repair tool with EOD bot then the sentry can guard you as you operate it, no more afk style deaths..

[stuck hollow]

I have 5900x and barely reach 110 lol

[tranquil kettle]

he plays on 1440 and high though wich means higher resolution/quality more work on gpu rather than cpu

[pliant knot]

real chads will play BF4 till launch

[vocal tusk]

I also have a 4790 / 1060 system and it did 65 average on a full game. (Medium settings, lighting set to low at 1080p)

[arctic grove]

Whenever Battlefield 2042 releases, will I be able to friend someone that's on an Xbox Series X while I'm on a PC? I am buying via Steam, which would launch Orgin. While they are just playing on their console.

[tranquil kettle]

the cpu optimization in the beta was terrible

[onyx oar]

why play warzone if you dont like it?

[frigid pecan]

but beta performance with ryzen CPUs was weird, like 5600x and 5900x were performing basically the same

[stiff pollen]

9700k @ 4.9ghz, 3080 and 32 gigs ram 3200 and only got 90-100 on ultra 1440p

[sterile flint]

I mean, yea, but thats almost what i want that spotting grenade to do? the sentry turret is there to shoot mans. when it doesn't do that, it feels lackluster despite the other goodness.

[stuck hollow]

Lol ?

[urban olive]

108/22 on locker other night 😆

[tranquil kettle]

play a game you like ... i play a lot of doom eternal for example

[tribal wyvern]

Cuz ain't no other shit to play, i got hell let loose and insurgency and bf4 and stuff but i gotta play something new

[tight abyss]

BFV club: 35, 35
70 damage
BF1 club, 48, 48
96 damage,
if the player was already damaged by grenades or another player vice versa, the BF1 club would destroy them quickly, the BFV club would be useless and you would just get shot in the face

[dawn cedar]

theres not really much to play right now, i figure most people are just trying to kill time till release

[stiff pollen]

Waiting for the full launch to gauge actuall performance, the beta was dodgy where some people got insane performance and some couldn’t

[tribal wyvern]

Exactly

[pliant knot]

Yea, crossplay was activated in the beta but for some reason you couldn’t play with friends of other platforms

[tranquil kettle]

play bfv

[tribal wyvern]

Good point

[vocal tusk]

Cos the engine (Like BFV) can only use 8 threads...but both CPUs have 12 threads plus

[arctic grove]

Cool, thanks

[tranquil kettle]

there are a ton of games tbh

[tribal wyvern]

I probbaly will

[onyx oar]

nothing to play...so you play something you dont like...ok?

[arctic grove]

Black Desert Online is the move.

[stiff pollen]

TBF I can’t gen get 120 consistently on BFV ultra anymore either :/

[pliant knot]

3200 tickets?

[tranquil kettle]

or even 128 threads in some cases (64 cores cpus)

[dawn cedar]

yeah, let me just completely jump genres of games

[stuck hollow]

Nah not possible

[brittle geyser]

But boris always having this ability, (not to mention they could always buff the dmg of the sentry) means you are free to take a different throwable

Whereas if you took the sensor nades you would be missing out on frags, they have a supply limit (need ammo bag to refill), and you have to throw them down continuously.

[frigid pecan]

that's weird, for real tho ? bfv engine works like that? didnt know that

[pliant knot]

if 2042 flops then I buy insurgency and WW3

[urban olive]

KDR, was getting tons of kills using the EOD bot at choke points. Then everyone went engi and did it... turned into Battlebots the game

[arctic grove]

We are talking about games, right? I threw out a game I enjoy

[stiff pollen]

Always has

[onyx oar]

you should try. very fun to experience other things

[frigid pecan]

thats interesting

[hidden wren]

id say buy insurgency regardless

[tranquil kettle]

i mean thats normal game devs optmise the engine for that amount of threads because thats what most people use

[sterile flint]

nades is a whole other discussion on how I feel about how they laid out the equippable items. I'll wait to see what the full list is before I get too into it.

[dawn cedar]

I played BDO, i have guru in most life skills

[vocal tusk]

Probably a corrupted GPU driver/chipset driver

[frigid pecan]

ye now it makes sense

[brittle geyser]

The specialist system really does allow for interesting choices based on opportunity cost, with more powerful restricted items for specific roles on the team

[tranquil kettle]

nvidia new gpu driver is out btw, and i got 2-4 more fps on bfv

[stuck hollow]

Where ? The one im using ?

[arctic grove]

I heard fortnite is good.

[pliant knot]

lmao, it’s the only way to pass thought the choke points, or some PC squad rushing with AEKs and smokes

[tranquil kettle]

downloaded it from nvidia website

[pliant knot]

I’m on Xbox

[idle kraken]

Was, now its shit

[arctic grove]

I agree, but the game is still pulling in a shit ton of money and players

[pliant knot]

I’ll wait for the offers lmao

[frigid pecan]

meanwhile amd drivers keep crashing display drivers lol, thats sadge

[urban olive]

people hate how I use it so bad, think it's my top kill vehicle atm

[stiff pollen]

AMD drivers always sucked

[vocal tusk]

GPU drivers can corrupt...if this happens...its best to use an app called DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) to fully remove the driver and appdata files in windows safe mode, then reinstall the driver. this will solve GPU driver related issues!

[tranquil kettle]

use ddu in windows safe mode and reinstall the latest one it usually fixes the problem

[idle kraken]

Yea but it lost most of it's OG playerbase with chapter 2 and so many skins from movies and series, pretty dumb ngl

[pliant knot]

bruhhhh, once you get the hang of it on metro or locker it can be really useful

[tranquil kettle]

note: use ddu ONLY in safe mode

[brittle geyser]

no shotgun, explosives, or sniper locker 24/7

[onyx oar]

Risk of Rain2, Command and Conquer, Bioshock, Witcher 3, MMORPG (WoW, Final fantasy online, New World) Forza, Fly sims, the Sims, STALKER etc. All very different all very good.

special shoutout to kotor1 and 2

[worldly knoll]

I only want my G3A3 it‘s easy to make me happy 😂

[arctic grove]

You think they care about OG players? 😂

[frigid pecan]

ye but in case of amd its a well known issue, they drivers are just getting worse and worse

[urban olive]

I just wish it had a little more pep like a RC car

[dawn cedar]

If you know any Helicopter flight sims, im down. Im a helicopter main

[idle kraken]

Well those were big streamers and people who spent much money on the game, so i think theyd care about revenue from those streamers

[stuck hollow]

Thanks but this is not related to what we are talking about unfortunately and actually u can check benchmarks on yt to see how its done and its not a rare issue its with 90% of players and i had contact with 3090 and 3080 including the gpus i own and all had the same result

[onyx oar]

google

[tranquil kettle]

nvidia is even worse sometimes trust me i mean you get a driver that gives you more fps and then a one that fucks up your fps

[vocal tusk]

How do you know its not related?

[arctic grove]

They still making a shit ton of money regardless, plus they still have a decent amount of popular you tubers/streamers still playing.

[tranquil kettle]

i had low fps on a 3090 because of low gpu usage even at ultra in 1080p, all other games work fine

with low i mean 100ish

[stuck hollow]

Ddu is not what u should go for .. it should be latest option , and yeah not everyone have corrupted driver camon what are u saying

[onyx oar]

''There's nothing to play so I play something I don't enjoy'' is the weirdest thing I have heard

[stiff pollen]

Genuinely I just think the frostbite engine hates my GPU

[stuck hollow]

Same bro i know thats the case for everyone and he is telling me to ddu lol

[tranquil kettle]

ddu isnt the latest option, its very easy to use and cleans old files

[vocal tusk]

Right...I guess ill resign from my HW testing position at the games studio I work in tomorrow. 👍

[stuck hollow]

I wont recommend anyone to go for it as first thing tbh

[tranquil kettle]

its always better than overwriting the driver when you install the new one

[tranquil kettle]

tbh its not hard to use , you just go in safe mode open it and click clean and restart

[urban olive]

I was able to get around 70-100 FPS on a 2080 lowering a few things, but yeah they need to fix it

[stuck hollow]

Ye

[vocal tusk]

DDU is literally an industry wide used application

[waxen umbra]

What is this DDU i'm reading about here

[idle kraken]

Still a lot of big streamers went away from it like dr lupo, nickmercs, dakotaz,..

[tranquil kettle]

indeed even r/nvidia mods that work at nvidia used it

[hidden wren]

display driver uninstaller

[vocal tusk]

Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU)

[waxen umbra]

oh is that all

[sullen inlet]

Bad optimization thats all

Nothing new

[hidden wren]

for whenever you need to have a clean slate on installing a new gpu driver

[vocal tusk]

Yes...It couldnt possibly be your PC...how could it????

lol

[waxen umbra]

If people here were unstatisfied with the beta performance... this beta was not very optimized for the CPU

[urban olive]

I predict an Nvidia Update in your future 🔮

[stuck hollow]

Yeah true everyone have issues that only showup with bf 2042 and the rest work excellent right ? Camon

[waxen umbra]

Your GPUs probably were fast enough, but have to wait for the CPU to catch up and complete work.

[vocal tusk]

"I want better frames, but im not willing to do anything that requires work on my part. What do I do?"

[waxen umbra]

DICE will probably optimize this prior to launch

no need to do much except wait if you ask me

[tight abyss]

I have a RTX 3080 TI and Pentium 4 and i still had performance issues on 2042, they seriously need to optimize

[waxen umbra]

lmao thats different

[stuck hollow]

What bsod is trying to say here that if u are having an issue with ur bf 2042 fps then its driver related , great

[urban olive]

p4 still works?

[tight abyss]

wym

[waxen umbra]

"wym" says the guy mentioning Pentium 4s

[vocal tusk]

I look forward to hearing from you at the full games launch. My DMs are open if you need help with DDU

[tight abyss]

Pentium 4 isnt a good cpu?

[stuck hollow]

And not related to the game itself at any term without mentioning that driver that support 2042 was released and the game itself have some stability issue even that people mentioned that the issue only occurs with bf 2042 only

[stuck hollow]

Sure u can also ask me how to figure out issue rather than “ restarting your router” solution

[dawn cedar]

Do you run the game with minimum processes and no other program open? Discord is notorious for eating resources

[vocal tusk]

It can happen with any game, but happens a lot with DX11/12 games, due to the way that those engines cache shaders, invalidate them, ETC

[tight abyss]

DDU isn't related to router?

[arctic grove]

2042 just has awful performance

[vocal tusk]

Smooth brain moment TBH

[arctic grove]

Playing on mid range specs is probably unplayable

[tight abyss]

mid range specs is 3070

[urban olive]

IDK if it's driver related exactly, was missing options ingame entirely. But maybe it will take a combination of patches to both to fix it

[stuck hollow]

Yeah ofc it will be fixed

[arctic grove]

3070ti mid range brooo whattt damn

[stuck hollow]

Bf 2042 is amazing tbh

[waxen umbra]

Beta options were a mess. There was not even a resolution slider

[arctic grove]

oh damn

m

Still horrible performance

[urban olive]

lmao i had to double check mine I launched in 720p by mistake at first and had high FPS hopes XD

[stuck hollow]

They will fix it on release for sure and drivers can cover this too

[arctic grove]

Its a beta and the devs said it was an old version.If its anything like other games it will be better at launch.

[stuck hollow]

3090 and 3080 had the same performance

[arctic grove]

Don’t get me wrong the game is awesome tho

[waxen umbra]

I had to add a custom resolution in the NVidia control panel to get the resolution i needed

[urban olive]

I was messing with it and the games settings, but those settings didn't seem to change much at all for my 2080 FE

[tight abyss]

good gpu for gaming

[arctic grove]

Good price

[waxen umbra]

@urban olive No. In the end its still the CPU that is probably trying to do too much work on too few cores or something.

[stuck hollow]

Hhahaha not good for gaming at all

[steel python]

11$ only

[arctic grove]

For real

[tight abyss]

best price to performance ratio guys

[urban olive]

is that in Yen?

[steady hound]

excellent price

[arctic grove]

32g of vram

Just buy 2 3090s

For cheaper

[crimson compass]

more than 10 times my laptop

[stuck hollow]

This cards are meant for workstations

[urban olive]

that could build 4 of my gaming towers lol

[crimson compass]

i would rather buy a tiny car

[sullen hull]

scalpers with ps5s be like

[dapper summit]

I wonder if DICE is looking at the low numbers in healing and wondering what the issue is?

[arctic grove]

Scalping 750tis to feed my children

[urban olive]

Medic needs a

[dawn cedar]

People play selfishly and their only incentive on "teamwork" is point gain

who woulda thought

[dapper summit]

I’m about to sell my 1070ti on eBay. You want to pay 450 for it. Enjoy son

[vocal tusk]

Medic needs a ♻️

[waxen umbra]

Theyre not that clueless after making battlefield games for 2 decades

[arctic grove]

my worst moment in bf 2042 beta

[stuck hollow]

1070ti nice

[hidden wren]

how about 4,50$

[dapper summit]

Sold

[hidden wren]

shipping costs are on you

[dapper summit]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255153709997?epid=12028442857&hash=item3b6858a3ad:g:8BcAAOSwduhgfMvh

[urban olive]

mine was the game crashing after a long kill streak

[stuck hollow]

Planning to upgrade ?

[dapper summit]

3070 just came in

[arctic grove]

damn that sucks

stats aren't saved anyway

[urban olive]

ah

[fallow zodiac]

that's sad

[hidden wren]

just say you got a 50 killstreak and your nvidia overlay didnt work

[stuck hollow]

Grats

[dapper summit]

Yeah the wait was ridiculous cry myself to sleep

[formal wolf]

is bf2042 going to have a cringe chat sensor so you cant swear

[dapper summit]

Yup

[dawn cedar]

just keep chat disabled

[dapper summit]

Because some 10 year old shouldn’t be seeing the chat log…..sure he shouldn’t be playing anyways

[brittle geyser]

Yes, chat filter is always on in this game

[stuck hollow]

I wanna play zuma

[dapper summit]

Think it will block ETADK

[slim quiver]

Chat filters are funny

[formal wolf]

chat filters are stupid

[urban olive]

I only played the Open beta for like 17-20 hours and hit like rank 19 I believe. What ranks did you guys hit?

[formal wolf]

21

[stuck hollow]

Chat filters shouldnt exist for war games

[slim quiver]

Someone swears and then it’s just a bunch of stars

[brittle geyser]

17

[formal wolf]

you cant even say poop in BFV

[teal prism]

21

[idle kraken]

They are ####### ##### #### so ###### ######

[plush tulip]

7 played a couple matches with buds that bout it

[slim quiver]

Ah yes excellent

[stuck hollow]

15

[urban olive]

almost seems like rank matched playtime more in beta

[dawn cedar]

25

[sullen hull]

32

[formal wolf]

i get censoring certain words but like basic words like cussing

[stuck hollow]

U were sleeping inside the game tanks

[formal wolf]

kind of soypilled

[sullen hull]

nah, i played it a whole lot

[stuck hollow]

I cant wait for the release i wanna play more

[hidden sand]

Damn they're gonna give a report next week based on the beta feedback, I'm honestly surprised.
I wonder what they'll say.

[formal wolf]

they got ripped in the instagram comments

[empty hill]

battlefield friends are back baby!!!!!!

[dark sandal]

i just got death threats from a spanish dude on operation underground because i went 90-11 with type 2a looooool

[empty hill]

let's fucking go!!!!!!!!

[dawn cedar]

oh no! not instagram comments

[dark sandal]

he was convinced i was a cheater

[vast mirage]

"does not ship to Estonia" 🤡

[arctic grove]

Dude what

[hidden sand]

I think the point of what they're saying is that specialist criticism is frequent and everywhere

[empty hill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSsc1K27gek&t=14s

[vast mirage]

WAIT THEY MADE A TEASER

[dawn cedar]

people inherently hate change. who woulda thought

[empty hill]

they are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PROMOOTEEEEEEEEEED

[tame cobalt]

Bf 2042 doe

[formal wolf]

yes

[hidden sand]

? You do know change happening doesn't automatically make it good, right?

[dawn cedar]

did i say it does?

[formal wolf]

kind of

[brittle geyser]

I actually think the specialists provide more specific player roles within the team, and I'm very interested to see the full cast

Irish in particular I think would have good synergy with a Falck

[hidden sand]

"People inherently hate change" insinuates that but if that's not what you meant my b

[light cradle]

Just bought ultimate edition ☺️

[dark sandal]

tanks make me fucking furious

[fallow zodiac]

The biggest problem with the specialists is that it broke the old squad system since everyone can play all the weapons with all the accessories

[tame cobalt]

I think orbital has a good size, but it's a bit strange that there's only 2 maps that are smaller than it

[fallow zodiac]

We also need bigest squad

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/neebs-gaming-hank-and-jed-neebs-animation-woohoo-gif-15640259

[formal wolf]

specialists are stupid

[arctic grove]

wingsuit

This feels good. I like this. Alot.

[empty hill]

PROMOTEEEEEEEEEEEED

[brittle geyser]

but the specialists have two things that are locked to that character and that character only. Like falck is and will be the only character who can revive anyone in the game

[hidden sand]

I just think reducing criticism to whining or just "inherently hating change" is pretty silly because people don't have to like things, their criticisms are just as valid as others appreciation

[waxen umbra]

Ya'll a bunch of doomsayers
I am hyped for all this new good freshness after 10 years of awkward class gadget and weapon assignments

[arctic grove]

Yeah aint no way I’m gonna be negative about this, the good times are coming back

[tame cobalt]

💯

[empty hill]

YOU KNOW SHIT IS REAL WHEN BATTLEFIELD COMMENTS ON THEIR VIDEO

[light cradle]

Im going to consooooom all skins from DICE

[hidden sand]

Nobody has to be, but people also don't have to be a fan of the changes

[brittle geyser]

tbh I think a lot of the criticism comes from just misunderstanding the difference between specialists and class roles

[arctic grove]

BOOYAHHHHHHH

[haughty dagger]

I actually hate that weapons were locked behind classes. Only 1 gadget actually forces teammates to work together instead of being able to run rockets and ammo to solo vehicles.

[livid eagle]

If y’all don’t like specialists just play BF3 on portal its simple

[formal wolf]

the scoreboard is kinda dumb

[empty hill]

That's what i'm going to do

[feral wren]

Specialist only make it hard decide what you want to play as

[hidden sand]

It's almost like people want AOW to play as BF always has, which is why it's being criticized

[sullen inlet]

That bf cartoon isnt even funny tbh

[haughty dagger]

Think they said traditional scoreboard will be back.

[feral wren]

Hoping

[tranquil lantern]

bruh how much id bet that they will delay bf2042 till 2022 because people are crying about specialists and theyre redesigning them

[empty hill]

what did you just said?

[fallow zodiac]

hope

[tawdry cape]

Not going to happen

[sullen inlet]

I said it isnt funny

What you gonna do about it

[haughty dagger]

The beta scoreboard was hot dog 💩. Only showed KDA and didn’t rank squads in score instead.

[brittle geyser]

I highly doubt it would happen, they have already designed their live service around releasing new specialists

[feral wren]

They won’t delay it again

[quartz fog]

I hope they do

Delay it

[formal wolf]

rather have it delayed then suck ass

[sullen inlet]

Big words coming from this anime pfp

[empty hill]

You have no humor then

[feral wren]

They will have had three months since the beta build to fix what we saw

[urban olive]

Instead of specialist just let people mix and match abilities

[hidden sand]

A delay isn't happening, they're not going to miss out on Black Friday and Christmas sales

[haughty dagger]

I think specialist are fine and don’t need a delay. People just don’t like change and I think misunderstand how they can be classes of their own.

[vale wadi]

There already are cheaters in battlefield 2042

[light cradle]

Game doesnt need a delay shut up

[formal wolf]

someones angwy

[tawdry cape]

What did you expect

[sullen inlet]

Just because you dont share the same humor with somone doesnt mean you have no humor at alwhat are you, 5?

[vocal tusk]

Its not when someone comments on the issues they have that I see a problem, its when the same people keep repeating the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over....ETC

Like, we get it, you dont like them...maybe they will be changed, maybe they wont. Only time will tell.

[tawdry cape]

People suck at game = they want to hack

[brittle geyser]

Yes this, I'm so tired of seeing players say that there is no reason to play falck because you could take the medic bag on anyone

She is the only character who can revive in the game (even the other two support specialists can't) and her healing gun has some really good properties

[feral wren]

It was a beta my guy the anti cheat probably wasn’t even running

[tawdry cape]

Game doesn’t need a delay shut up

[light cradle]

I just bought ultimate edition i love specialists and sice

[formal wolf]

Lmao

[vale wadi]

True

[empty hill]

nice grammar

[light cradle]

This game is going to be good with or without you

[feral wren]

The specialist will be nice I just can’t do what I want with them but I will manage

[quartz fog]

Christ this server is fucking toxic

[formal wolf]

Yeah its battlefield.

[tawdry cape]

At least he had a comma in the only place he didn’t need a comma

[vale wadi]

It’s a battlefield server what did you expect

[sullen inlet]

Imagine fronting me about grammar you low iq midget

[formal wolf]

Battlefields 4 best feature was no chat filter

[vale wadi]

Ofc it’s going to be as bad as the in game chat

[idle kraken]

Indeed

[empty hill]

cry

it isn't?

[sullen inlet]

You are the only one crying here

[feral wren]

[vale wadi]

It is 💀

[empty hill]

Are you done?

[sullen inlet]

When you stop tagging me, yeah

[empty hill]

Then stop tagging me too

[fallow zodiac]

It’s been a long time since I don't feel this kind of bf4 good vibe on a battlefield

[tawdry cape]

[feral wren]

Portal will be fun but I will be too busy leveling up in multiplayer

[sullen inlet]

You started, end it yourself

[empty hill]

Stop

[formal wolf]

No lol

[tawdry cape]

Yes

[empty hill]

nah wait for release

[feral wren]

Do it

[sullen inlet]

20$ paypal for me stop

[empty hill]

No , poor

[ornate prairie]

🥸

[tawdry cape]

$20**

[sullen inlet]

I figured

[fallow zodiac]

go preorder

[empty hill]

[empty hill]

I meant you are poor asking for money

[feral wren]

2042 on sale on release

[fallow zodiac]

so you can level up one week before the release

[feral wren]

Just kidding

[vale wadi]

Yes

[vocal tusk]

Yes, thats generally what happens when a game releases

[vale wadi]

November 12

[tawdry cape]

They probably won’t be in the Winter sale just like msfs

[sullen inlet]

Its called capitalism kid, supply and demand. You want sth and I can deliver, my price my rules

[feral wren]

Well regular version don’t get it a week ahead

[tame cobalt]

Wanna see 128 breakthrough tho

[tranquil lantern]

100 bucks for a game lol definately didnt buy it

[tawdry cape]

This is discord

[vocal tusk]

128 TDM

[fallow zodiac]

Only gold and ultimate

[empty hill]

I don't take your capitalism , go work

[arctic grove]

It's only game. Why you have to be mad?

[feral wren]

Yes

[ornate prairie]

Juego tu mamá

[tawdry cape]

If you are going to pre order get gold at least

[sullen inlet]

I am in the working class, dont worry.

[arctic grove]

Zarya voice line moment

[empty hill]

Whaca you learning right now?

[feral wren]

I already bought regular I wish you could upgrade lol because I’d spend the extra money now

[formal verge]

Monkey

[arctic grove]

Bryzagalov voice line* 😌

[tawdry cape]

Just refund

[fallow zodiac]

I think you can upgrade

[arctic grove]

No Zarya

[sullen inlet]

Im a soon to be engineer

[tawdry cape]

I refunded because I realized there is no point in getting regular

[empty hill]

congrag

[tranquil kettle]

refund

[vocal tusk]

Refund it (You are guaranteed to get one) then get Gold Edition. Its what I did

[brittle geyser]

Yeah I should probably do that to get the gold edition. I just wish there was just an upgrade option

[arctic grove]

Someone say wing suit?

[fallow zodiac]

This is done on purpose so that the players take the gold

[sullen inlet]

We use the symbol after the value in my country

[dense torrent]

Im hoping we get to mix and match stuff on portal, like bf3 classes with all weapons (bc2, 1942, and bf3) or something like that

[empty hill]

WINGSUITS? DID SOMEBODY SAID WINGSUITS?!

[feral wren]

What link do I need to refund on PlayStation?

[arctic grove]

[tawdry cape]

Just go to your receipt

[fallow zodiac]

bf3 😫

miss it

[tawdry cape]

I don’t know how PlayStation works tho

[sullen inlet]

PS is a pain in the ass to refund

You need a support ticket

[tame cobalt]

eh it's just 1 map

Pog

I rly wanna know the breakthrough layout on orbital

[arctic grove]

no I did earlier 😎

clearlyyyy

[fallow zodiac]

I hope there is a map looking like looker operation in 2042

with 128 player

[vocal tusk]

Did anyone die to cryo tank damage in the beta here...or just me?

[tame cobalt]

bruh

[dense torrent]

dice could still possibly reconsider specialists, I mean think about it, they could just have em in hazard zone (it would make sense since like it will be like special operations specialists idea kinda fits it), and just have old classes return. I mean they did ask that question in the survey and Im hoping that classes do indeed return in the core, even if specialists are implemented in such another way in the game.

[tame cobalt]

didn't get damage from it, but it stopped my healing

[sharp crater]

Wait can I play hardzone beta if I preordered it?

[fallow zodiac]

no

[onyx oar]

I want a nice dessert map with a huge sunflare that makes me squize my eyes irl thinking it would negate the effects

[haughty dagger]

I didn’t realize those things did dmg or the building in D2 until after I died from it once lol.

[arctic grove]

locker and Metro are overrated ngl 😳

and sir Harry.. the sky is indeed up 😌 haha I am so funny with my Tomfoolery

[haughty dagger]

I thought it was just all visual

[hidden wren]

just have a bunch of snipers line up, ez sunflare

[sharp crater]

why?

[vocal tusk]

The fire extinguishers you mean?

[onyx oar]

[arctic grove]

Silk Road

[haughty dagger]

People love meat grinders that’s why they’re popular.

[idle kraken]

They said if there will be enough feedback of people wanting classes that they might just bind a specialist to the gadgets that suit his field of action

[tame cobalt]

if they bring back classes they don't have to sacrifice specialists in the main mode for it. just lock non-specialist gear to the classes that specialists are already in

[split bone]

I have no idea what to believe. They already had the titles "Assault" "Medic" and so on in the beta. Which could just be from portal except they are said to be two different downloads entirely.

[haughty dagger]

Yeah the extinguishers in the building did dmg

[arctic grove]

those same people pretend to know the battlefield franchise after playing 10 matches of locker 😩

[fallow zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkMiPwL8G1w

[dawn cedar]

they wont get rid of specialists, that would cut a revenue stream for them. not gonna happen.

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Hazard Zone Trailer
Premieres <t:1634223600:R>

[dawn cedar]

they will just change or adapt it

[sharp crater]

Is that a yes or a no?

[brittle geyser]

2042 mp is gonna have 4 class archetypes (assault, engineer, support, recon) with 3 specialists per archetype that serve a different function

[arctic grove]

they don't even need to cut specialists..legit all they need to do is have them FOLLOW the regular class system. The specialist can still exist with their traits and special gadgets. Just in a more logical and arguably easier to understand way.

[fallow zodiac]

a no you can't play during the beta

[tame cobalt]

Yeah this. Closest we'll get is locking non specialist gear to the classes already in the game

[split bone]

Ah okay, so like Valorant, overwatch and so on have the same overall classes and then sub chars under that.

[arctic grove]

Hello

[haughty dagger]

“There were so much teamwork in previous games!! (People hardly work together) Where’s all the teamwork in beta?! It’s the specialist fault!! (no chat or com rose btw)

[arctic grove]

what tf are you talking about

😭

[sharp crater]

🤦‍♂️ Then why the F did they make beta?

[hidden sand]

I would so much prefer Specialist be cosmetic only, and their gadgets be with the rest of the gadgets lol

[arctic grove]

People think players throwing ammo crates for themselves was for teamwork purposes xd

[tame cobalt]

Server stress test

[arctic grove]

How are we all dewin?

[fallow zodiac]

to test the conquest mode

[haughty dagger]

To test 128 player servers….with a stable build.

[arctic grove]

I legit have an excerpt from a dev interview where they state " players can expect the full launch experience during the open beta "

so like.. ahh sure

[zenith karma]

Teamwork is when you follow a support class and spam "I need ammo" as well as shoot him with your sidearm until he drops you a crate of ammo

[arctic grove]

😂

[idle kraken]

Meh

[arctic grove]

Ong

[tame cobalt]

They were specifically talking about the layout of orbital

[hidden wren]

you mean spam, shoot and still receive nothing

[vocal tusk]

I for one dont mind everyone having all weapons...but at the same time I wouldnt mind weapons being class locked (Engineer: SMG, Recon: Bolt actions. Medic: Assault Rifles, Support: LMGs)...while still having DMRs and shotguns as all class weapons

[sharp crater]

PEOPLE did you even read my first question? Will there be a hazard zone beta

[hidden sand]

The idea of tying gadgets to cosmetics is extremely annoying imo
I hope we're able to use 2042 gadgets with BF3 classes

[haughty dagger]

Or wait for someone to hop out of their tank to repair it just to steal it and drive away from them while they get sniped chasing you.

[zenith karma]

because they got a mortar and claymores 😔

[tame cobalt]

support and medic is one thing

[solemn latch]

Comparing the beta to the btb halo infinite flight is like comparing a house that’s 75% built and a house that was destroyed

[quiet pawn]

Played BF1942 in 1992 at age 22, played every game since then, didn't get the 2042 survey. feelsbadman

[vocal tusk]

They could easily make that destinction though

[haughty dagger]

Or a medic with noobtubes and no meds

[hidden sand]

Yeah I wish they had gone with the BF4 route on it
Unlocking weapons isn't as much of an issue as gadgets, but I still prefer it tbh, though that's something I'll actually say "Use portal for it then" for

[arctic grove]

teamwork is having to plan shit out.. plan your loadout plan it's attachments, run with your squad mates and support them however necessary.. teamwork is using your classes abilities to assist your team ..and ultimately lead them to victory. I never saw one dumbass dropping a medcrate or ammo bag during the beta..yet as soon as I hopped back over to bf4 I saw it in ..believe it or not.. EVERY SINGLE MATCH 😩

[pine cove]

It's snitel not schnitzel

[arctic grove]

just one example tho

[sharp crater]

NIEN NIEN NIEN NIEN

[pine cove]

Snitel !

[brittle geyser]

Yeah, and just like with overwatch the specifics are locked on a character basis. So while there will be two other specialists in the support category, they will not be able to players while Falck (third support specialist) can

[tame cobalt]

how and why? specialists are already in 4 defined classes

[pine cove]

Who says schnitzel.. its snitel

[fallow zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v5YLqcqync lmao

[arctic grove]

Ay btw. I found a gun in black ops 4 that has the EXACT same reload animation as the m5. Like to a tee

[haughty dagger]

God no. I loved running the smg while running ammo box with Boris. I like the freedom of weapon choice.

[pine cove]

Snitel

everyone say snitel

[hidden wren]

last time i ordered she wrote down "shitnel" on the receipt so

[pine cove]

lol

[arctic grove]

oops wrong message

[pine cove]

Snitel

[arctic grove]

I'll clip it and show you. It's exactly the same animation

[pine cove]

Shitnel

[hidden sand]

If we can use 2042 gadgets, weapons with BF3 classes I will be satisfied

[pine cove]

snitel is better

only noobs at battlefield are saying schnitzel instead of snitel

[brittle geyser]

because bf4 has 4 generalist classes while this game is going for a subclass system

If you want meds, run to falck.

[pine cove]

@brittle geyser snitel or schnitzel ?

[arctic grove]

" are already in " ehh u mean they used the tags of the four basic classes but classes in reality don't even exist in 2042... 😭

[quiet pawn]

I don't like the med crates that much in BF4, the med packs were so much better.

[arctic grove]

I kinda don't like the sonars. They're basically wall hacks.

[pine cove]

snitel

[brittle geyser]

schnitzel

[pine cove]

no

[sharp scroll]

sad but true story

[arctic grove]

I did, quite a few times..never fruitful

[pine cove]

this means you re a noob at battlefield

its snitel

[tame cobalt]

Specialists are designed under classes though. The classes just have new definitions

[pine cove]

whoever says snitel gets a 30day early access at 2042

[brittle geyser]

And how would the old system fix this then? I constantly run into support players in bf4 who don't drop ammo?

[arctic grove]

then what the fuck are the new definitions? " any weapon or gadget you want. classes totally play a role " ? 😭

[tranquil kettle]

sneed

[quiet pawn]

I guess their presentation would have been better if they named those specialists as classes, like Parameter, Scaler, Overwatch, and Healer.

[hidden wren]

same with assaults ressing at 20 and not throwing a heal pouch

[tame cobalt]

Like engineer is bf4 means tank destroy/repair, while in 2042 it means defence/fortifications

[brittle geyser]

this, now at least I know when I'm running to a falck they have to have a healing gun and revives , instead of running m320 and defibs

[pine cove]

snitel

[twilit karma]

Snitel

[gusty jasper]

Yo can dice add the R99 to BF2042, I think it would make the game 10/10 GOTY

[tame cobalt]

Which is reflected in the specialist designs

[pine cove]

snitel

[arctic grove]

Question for you guys. What is 191cm in feet and inches? I'd Google but I'm too lazy

[pine cove]

snitel

[sharp scroll]

snitel

[pine cove]

snitel

[haughty dagger]

It’s because people have rose tinted glasses when they played. People ran mortar/ammo box and sat in the back spamming when BF4 came out. Also medics ran AEK with noob tube. COD just lives rent free in these peoples minds.

[vocal tusk]

TBH...to avoid as much backlash as possible...they should have gotten the healer, ammo giver, repairer and recon type specialists ready first...then given those in the beta

[hidden sand]

If we get 2 gadget slots, Class restricted gadgets, I'll be fine with specialist

[hidden wren]

6.2

[pine cove]

snitel

[arctic grove]

I didn't say it would fix it..certainly not ENTIRELY..However following at least some of what's been tried and tested in previous games brings a shit ton more order to gameplay . Right now it just feels like a br with everyone smashed into a smaller map

[brittle geyser]

thank god someone else sees how this game is designed and actually bothered to try and learn it

[tranquil turtle]

Snipers are meant to pick off targets at long range
Now they can play medic, shoot rockets, and not play their role

[tame cobalt]

There's no repair specialist

[arctic grove]

Thanks.

[vocal tusk]

There was a "Combat engineer" type specialist mined from the game

[pine cove]

snitel not schnitzel

[arctic grove]

like how tf am I supposed to know if Maria has an ammo bag or a med crate 😩

[hidden wren]

shh before a mod mutes you

[pine cove]

why

[brittle geyser]

I mean in this system we would have gotten 3 supports (healer, ammo giver, repairer) and casper

With the characters they released we have a more broad understanding of what we can see in each class

[hidden wren]

for spam

[pine cove]

because its snitel not schnitzel I have to spread this

[haughty dagger]

I mean those basically what we got though. The stim pistol sucks and needs a buff and grapple just needs a nerf. Boris is fine and Kasper the friend ghost I think is fine as well.

[quiet pawn]

icon above head

[arctic grove]

the one you can't see?

[quiet pawn]

if you look at them

usually on minimap also

[arctic grove]

nah because I'm a regular ass person who wants look at the skin of a player rather than squint at their icon

[haughty dagger]

Because it was bugged. They need to add something that shows what equipment your friendly is running above their head.

[quiet pawn]

not hard

[arctic grove]

agreed, at least this would make it discernable

I wish specialists had headgear so we couldn’t identify unique facial features

[haughty dagger]

Fixing 100% uptime and adding the equipment icon above friendlies will fix the issue of not knowing who is friendly or foe.

[brittle geyser]

But if your stated problem is not knowing who to go to for what, the specialists actually fix that by tying specific behavior to a character, while giving players the chance to cover a single weakness in their kit via the gadget slot

[haughty dagger]

Then people can bitch about what type of skin the person has instead of “OMG CLONE WARS!!”

[vocal tusk]

As it happens...a Tiny Teal dot is not enough 😛

[quiet pawn]

I usually talk to people in my squad and know what they are running, but that seems lost to most of the community.

[brittle geyser]

I actually think the stim pistol is really fucking good, just doesn't tell you other ways you can use it, and needs QOL improvements

[arctic grove]

yeah Specialists exist for the sole purpose of monetization tho. them having one specific gadget to themselves is illogical as all hell .. hey guys here's one gadget! everything else is an open pool for u to grab from and confuse your own team with!

[hidden sand]

I just don't believe they're going to darken the cosmetics for the enemy team. A better icon ontop of their head isn't going to help much either.
People fail to realize how much you rely on silhouettes when playing the game, those were extremely important, and emphasized by the designers in previous games.
Not to mention, it looks so lazy. I'm not claiming they are lazy, but damn, lacking another faction is such an odd choice.

[haughty dagger]

Yeah I played BF4 the last few days and I liked the icon above peoples head of what class they were and it flashed when they needed heals or ammo. (I always play support and ammo box)

[scarlet hornet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vegm6KAHurs

[quiet pawn]

if anyone who uses coms wants to add me it is appreciated. trecenters on origin

[arctic grove]

I can’t wait for hazard zone to be gedo tarkov

[pliant knot]

chad support

[arctic grove]

I'm getting real tired of the casuals saying everything is 👌 a-ok just so they don't have to wait longer for their next sweat and ditch game.

[hidden sand]

It's almost like that matches with most of the lighting in the game making it harder to see...... 😛

[rose fiber]

Anyone seen LevelCap's today video? You think they'll do any major changes regarding specialists? I myself highly doubt they'd replace them back with classes but would be great.

[orchid root]

I liked med packs in bfv the most

[vocal tusk]

No, his video was clickbait

[brittle geyser]

no they have two traits, which can be a gadget or ability. So two unique "moves" per specialist

they just took the subclasses that you could make in previous battlefield games via gadgets locked in roles so we have more playstyles like in older bf games

[pliant knot]

I was just watching it, apparently DICE implemented so we can have AI default skins

[haughty dagger]

Just because people say the design is fine doesn’t auto make them a causal and just because you don’t like it also doesn’t auto make you a Vet or Hardcore. It’s weird just stop.

[tribal wyvern]

Levelcap clickbaites

[arctic grove]

I didn't say traits I said gadgets

[quiet pawn]

Thats how the small med packs in BF4 were, but you have to aim when you throw them. lol

[tribal wyvern]

The survey is fake, no such thing has been sent to anyone, any images fliating around are photoshop

[arctic grove]

" more playstyles " wasn't needed tho.. now they're just going full cod when it comes to operators and shit

[tribal wyvern]

No, specialists aren't being removed

[vocal tusk]

I dont mind a bit of clickbait...but levelcap has gone next level(Pun intended) with it as of late.

[main mango]

seriously?

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove can you cry any more?

[tribal wyvern]

Yeah, seriously

[quiet pawn]

Heeeeey guys, Level Cap Here

[main mango]

says who?

[arctic grove]

assumptions, I never said I was a vet or a hardcore player nor did I say their opinions matter more. Everyone's opinion is valid, I said what I said completely void of your assumption

[upbeat swallow]

Level cap

[rose fiber]

I mean, it wasn't really clickbait, title didn't confirm it, he jsut talked about survey about new specialists and massive negative response to it

[arctic grove]

yes dad

[tribal wyvern]

Someone faked this survey to create false expectations of specialists getting removed

[haughty dagger]

COD living rent free in your head.

[pliant knot]

huh, bro no, monetization is the main reason for specialists, they just took R6 specialist and force it through the community’s throat

[arctic grove]

bruh I don't even play cod 😩

Tbh I’m most excited for the master skins that’s what’s really keeping me exited

[hidden sand]

I disagree so much with the direction this game is going, but damn people do not have to like or dislike what the game is.
There are objective downgrades, removals of features that worked just fine before, etc. But people don't have to dislike that, or like it. So damn simple.

[arctic grove]

I've tried ..it but I don't play it . It just feels like a cesspool of shit in all honesty

[vocal tusk]

I have seen no evidence to point to it being fake...but i guess we wait and see until next week...with the beta round up

[tribal wyvern]

No one has received this survey at all, the source of this survey is also without proof and the so called "images" of it are blatant photoshop, the questions are also given in an unprofessional and nonsensical way

[quiet pawn]

"DICE Reconsidering Battlefield 2042 Specialists?" <-- nice b8 m8 8/8

[brittle geyser]

What do you mean more wasn't needed? 4 classes was so limiting and really told nothing about what the player had in their gadget slots.

Instead it could only hint at what gun they might have and even then a lot of guns were multiclass

Now in this game I always know that Casper has a drone and a threat detector

[main mango]

but multiple people have gotten it, it isnt just 1 guy. has any Dice or EA member confirmed its fake?

[tribal wyvern]

Show me the multiple people who got it then

[arctic grove]

hooowwww was it limited? because you needed a brain to plan what class you were gonna run before you spawned? rather than the plus system and " any weapon/gadget you can imagine " having ur back? oof

[brittle geyser]

Highly disagree, the specialists allow for playstyles that either were not possible in previous games such as Irish

[rose fiber]

If you take that as confirmation you sure as hell deserve to be clickbaited 24/7

[pliant knot]

it all comes down to what you like, but sadly the beta didn’t feel like a BF game so yea many people are disappointed myself included

[hidden sand]

Wilde fully acknowledged me not getting mine yet the other day when I mentioned it, proving it's authenticity

[main mango]

just go on reddit, there are like 10s to 100s of posts about peoples take on the survey

[tribal wyvern]

So it is real?

[main mango]

nice, thanks for some actual facts

[oblique finch]

I just hope they increase party size from 4 to 8

[quiet pawn]

I heard someone I know got it. They were complaining about not being able to type a wall of text.

[haughty dagger]

There are simple things missing from beta that would have made communication 100x better and easier if it was there. I’m not saying the game is 100% perfect but the outrage on the specialist vs classes is not even the real issue people should be complaining about. There’s netcode and desync in the beta (you could see planes DBZ fighting). Also, hit detection was off sometimes but also on point. I don’t know if it was because there were no regional servers or what.

[arctic grove]

anywayy idc to debate this anymore YouTube time 😩

[pliant knot]

they could just add those gadgets to each class, the hook thing to assault class and stuff, there is literally no reason to remove classes and replace them with specialists with special gadgets and a normal gadget, nobody asked for it and it’s off the tracks, not killing 2042 but definitely affecting the essence of the game

[tribal wyvern]

Ok but i don't see hoe this means they're reconsidering specialists, it would require a vety long 2nd delay to remove specialists all together, they're here to stay

[brittle geyser]

Because now I need to consider what my team needs in terms of specific tools? There are 3 support specialists in the game and if you play that archetype you will need to determine how best to help your team with your characters unique traits, then you pick a gun that fits your situation on the map and playstyle rather than just picking bf4 medic cause AR go brrrr

[tribal wyvern]

No one's clicking on the blatantly obvious rick roll

[main mango]

well, it is more or less confirmed that specialists were actually a last minute change and that is why the game has been delayed

[tribal wyvern]

Lmao no, tech test had thrm and game wasn't delayed till much later so

[quiet pawn]

BF Community: Specialists are OP. Also BF Community: Choppers are OP.

[maiden crest]

I LIKE BATTLEFIELD 2042

[brittle geyser]

But having the revive tool on only one specialist actually allows other supportive roles to emerge, such as the dedicated vehicle specialist within the support category

[arctic grove]

alright, that's a fair argument to a certain extent.. tho how come they couldn't have had specialists as more of a " combat role " like in bfv. Something that's controlled less by the specific operator but more by classes themselves.. say the weapons can be mostly interchangable but the gadgets are a bit more class specific?

(btw the second part of this isn't continuing to refer to combat Roles)

[tribal wyvern]

Specialists were not a last second change and they were not the cause of the delay

[arctic grove]

did somebody say they were 😳

[hidden sand]

I think it's fairly important in terms of teamplay, but yeah. There are a lot of other things to be concerned about considering that this was specifically meant to test servers, outside of gameplay. Which is kinda worrying, because of the things you mentioned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uke7lairPWE&t=70s
This video somes up exactly what's worrying about the beta imo.

[arctic grove]

ahh I see

[tribal wyvern]

It would take a 2nd delay to remove the specialists so do not think for a second that'll happen

[rustic heron]

https://youtu.be/1DlGEZOrMsk

I agree with this guy 100%

[tribal wyvern]

Downvote me, you know it's impossible to remove such a big mechanic after game went into bug fixing mode

Unless they delay, which they won't

[amber kelp]

Specialists are more likely to be reworked an update after launch

[harsh furnace]

? They are going to fix it ez

[hidden sand]

The issue with this is why would you do this now that you're not forced to? It only reinforces that lone wolf mentality. Forcing teamplay via classes helped tremendously with that. Now there's no incentive too, so, it'll be even less.

[arctic grove]

hey don't hate me too much, I could be chanting " remove specialists entirely! " no I genuinely believe they're a nice addition, especially for the fact that they'll be doing a good job of funding Ripple Affect among the other devs...however the way they were implemented was a bit ignorant in my personal opinion.

[main mango]

the game WAS delayed, just look it up, and if you look at the facts it makes a lot of sense. think about it, there are 4 different models for AI solider on each team, 1 for each class. It is very likely that this change was forced by EA after they saw how easy they are to monetize with Warzone and recent CoDs. only 5 specialists have been confirmed meaning they are probably still working on the others, and the first 4 were rushed for the playtest/beta, explaining why they are so badly balanced. it just kinda makes sense

[pliant knot]

Problem is, there’s no roles, it’s a free-for-all, a generic FPS game, we were given CODMW2019 but with more players and larger maps and R6 specialist system

[deep scaffold]

Are surveys still rolling out? I haven’t gotten mine yet, I also preordered

[tribal wyvern]

Lofi.....specialists were in the game since the pre alpha...............

[brittle geyser]

because they are using the language found in other popular games to carry over the same teamplay found in previous titles

Overwatch for instance has 3 classes. DPS, Tank, and Healer. All of the characters that fit within the general idea of their class name, but they accomplish that end goal in a different way

So in 2042 you could be a Support player, but focusing on reviving and healing allies so you would play falck. If you wanted to play a support playstyle where you give ammo out to the team, you can do so with their unannounced resupply character

[harsh furnace]

Yes

[feral wren]

Hey refunded regular then ordered the gold version lol

[carmine mulch]

10 specialists have been confirmed for launch

[tribal wyvern]

They were not a last minute change at all, you're pulling this shit out your ass

[harsh furnace]

If you have read the interviews you would know they are done with all specialists

[main mango]

and? that doesnt mean it wasnt changed, the game has been being worked on since 2017

[haughty dagger]

Having more specialists actually increases more teamplay if they have supporting skills/equipment. I think it encourages teamplay. We just got a test of one specialist that didn’t really offer teamplay and a ton of people picked it instead of playing something off meta and more towards teamwork. I played with 2 other friends and we all played different specialist and used different equipment to help each other. Hard to ask someone without chat that’s not already in discord with you.

[arctic grove]

except other IP's " languages " aren't battlefields " language " .

They simply don't fit.. and if they wunna try that shit they gotta at least optimize the logistics of it and why they made the change in the first place.

[pliant knot]

I appreciate the fact of devs wanting to innovate in 2042 but they’re straight up going off tracks with the specialist system

[amber kelp]

We knew about and had seen specialists since the announcement. We know about all 10 of them, and 9 are in the reveal trailer. This was not a recent addition

[tribal wyvern]

Specialists were planned from the beginning and were not the cause for a delay

[main mango]

i meant confirmed as in playable we only technically know of 5

[harsh furnace]

Game not even released they working on them it will be fine

[brittle geyser]

Because people actually like playing support roles! Especially if they are like falck and actually fun to play with depth unlike press 4 to drop medkit.

People play support characters in overwatch, Team fortress 2, and even older BF games with more classes because they are fun. If you personally wouldn't, that is fine, but others will

[arctic grove]

another day of arguing about stuff we already know the answers to I see

[tribal wyvern]

Leaks and reveal trailer

[main mango]

those "10" arent confirmed, we only know of the ones in beta and irish

[tribal wyvern]

Stupid isn't it?

[formal wolf]

no campaign cringe

[mossy vigil]

campaign sucks

[amber kelp]

Sundance, Rao, Dozer, and Paik all have gameplay from the trailers.

[formal wolf]

campaign good ur opinion sucks

[rocky jewel]

+sundance and espinoza

[hidden sand]

Based on what we know, most specialist gadgets aren't extremely teamplay oriented. Most of that is still in the universal gadgets anyone can use. But still, why would you do any of that when you could just choose a rocket launcher? There's no sacrifice to be made when choosing specific gadgets anymore, and that only lessens the motivation for teamplay. Just how I feel though.

[harsh furnace]

They confirm in interviews man

[mossy vigil]

campaign sucks glad they removed it

[tame cobalt]

2042 classes OFFICIAL descriptions

Assault: Attack - Flank - Destroy

Engineer: Defend - Fortify - Improvise

Recon: Observe - Infiltrate - Eliminate

Support: Supply - Maintain - Revive

[formal wolf]

looks like your jawline got removed too

[sterile flint]

but where am I gonna get the unique melee unlocks that no one else has?

[arctic grove]

idk it all feels a bit extra, especially for the fact that they marketed the core experience as a fan orientated game, even marketed it as a classic bf experience. ..not very fan orientated, nor a great bf experience when they remove a shit ton of features adored by fans.

[rocky jewel]

Additional class:
Boris: destroy - obliterate - win

[amber kelp]

Honestly if they add more gadget limits to push people into these rolls we'd have a better class system

[brittle geyser]

thank god someone else actually fucking looked at the menus in the beta

[feral wren]

From completing challenges or micro transactions

[sterile flint]

yes, I'm aware

[harsh furnace]

We have to release till launch to see how teamwork works

[steady spire]

The campaign was one thing I loved about bf4 it's a shame they didn't do it for 2042

[quiet pawn]

I don't get the point in arguing about it because it can all be changed. All you do is start a server with what you want in the game...

[pliant knot]

one month for release, and beta’s are just used to fix bugs and glitches and have the go ahead from youtubers and media. Core gameplay felt off and that’s the problem

[feral wren]

Teamwork don’t work on 2042

[quiet pawn]

pointless

[brittle geyser]

there are unique gadgets per role though, so you if you want to revive players you must play falck, no other support character will do that job

[arctic grove]

I'm so sleepy

[tribal wyvern]

People don't realize this and so they whine

[haughty dagger]

Meta slaves will always be metaslaves. Look at BF4 and see how many people run assault with AEK. Mind as well delete all other assault rifles. People play support because it’s fun. Same reason people play healers or tanks in MMOs it’s what they enjoy even if they’re not meta class or spec. People will play what they enjoy and meta slaves will always look for the “best” thing to go.

[formal wolf]

the levelution sucked on orbital

[harsh furnace]

I believe In dice core gameplay is fine

[amber kelp]

Yes, but I dont think it goes far enough, since the grenades and open gadgets blur the lines between these roles a lot

[mossy vigil]

cope

[formal wolf]

who

[hidden sand]

The issue with that is you severely underestimate how many people will not play support roles. DICEs data regarding weapons and how people would choose other classes specifically for this actually reinforces the amount who lone wolf. The Beta reinforced the amount who lone wolf. If Gadgets remain unlocked, then teamplay is going to decrease by a lot. They need to be class locked imo.

[mossy vigil]

tf do u mean who

[sterile flint]

it was ok when it blew up. I'm just sad you didn't even notice unless you were at the pad

[formal wolf]

cares

[rocky jewel]

Ur mama

[tribal wyvern]

I love AOW but who doesn't can fix what they dislike in portal

Problem solved

[main mango]

he literally @ ed you are you dumb?

[harsh furnace]

I liked the specialists it gave me freedom to choose whatever I want and still team play by reviving others or give ammo

[tame cobalt]

BASED

[mossy vigil]

continue to cope

[formal wolf]

all im saying is kaleidoscope better have some some siege of shanghai level destruction

[arctic grove]

it's called constructive criticism and the entire reason devs run open betas and tech tests. It's all for feedback, and guess what..the community is giving their feedback. Regardless of the way it's given, it is all still feedback at the end of the day.

" arguing " is just the debating of opposing opinions and often times ends up being resolved by a half way agreement for understanding by the other party

[formal wolf]

seethe and mald loser

[arctic grove]

genius 👌😩

[amber kelp]

betas are glorified demos these days

[brittle geyser]

Gadgets can supplement the lack of a specific character, but they don't replace their function. You can have someone drop a medic bag for you, but if you die and need a revive you need a falck or someone in your squad (revive with less than 100)

[mossy vigil]

ur not coping hard enough

[haughty dagger]

I got points for resupplying just the points were off on the right and not in the middle which I think people thought you didn’t get anything for. Same for kills counting the same as revives but reviving was clunky and you shouldn’t ever be able to take someone’s weapon until they give up anyways IMO.

[primal badger]

hello

[pliant knot]

sonic movement and hit registration issues is not fine

[tame cobalt]

Seige of Shanghai level destruction sucked though

[arctic grove]

basically

[molten lark]

i remember hopping in a BF2042 multiplayer lobby and seeing old battlefield soldier models than specialists

[pliant knot]

ruined the map yea

[harsh furnace]

Betas are not known for teamwork idk why you guys think people going to try in betas

[arctic grove]

I need a snuggie

[tribal wyvern]

But portal being the fix to all your issues deletes the purpose of arguing about shit u dislike, absolutely provide your feedbacj to devs but why argue?

[harsh furnace]

They easy fixes

[tender folio]

lock gadget to class but let people pick gun that they like ... problem solved

[mossy vigil]

make money instead, relationships are useless

[amber kelp]

and by supplementing it they blur the lines between the roles, deincentivising teamplay. Anyone can heal, anyone can fight vehicles, anyone can put down spotting grenades, etc.
I understand that the roles still exist but its not good enough in its current state

[harsh furnace]

Yes don’t get gfs get a wife

[vocal tusk]

Based on what we know:

Healing gun/Full revive (Falck)
Ammo drop (Angel)
Armor plates/Cover & fortification (Irish)
Turret which can spot,distract/kill  (Boris)```

And this is just stuff we DO know about

[arctic grove]

yeah except it doesn't, it won't be the same and I can almost garunteed they can't have " portal " with every bf game going forward. Not to mention all the achievements, assignments, nor missions can be solved in PURELY portal..or at least I very highly doubt it.

You can't just throw in a nostalgia factor and say " hey there u go! problem solved..right? " ..it doesn't work that way unfortunately. Only to a certain extent will it scratch the itch.

[hidden sand]

Man do I agree with the weapon switching thing lol, you don't become their class when you switch anymore so there is no point for it to drop when they're downed. It's so annoying to be revived with another weapon lol.

[quiet pawn]

wait no, keep arguing about specialists, I don't want the Attack Heli to be worthless. It always takes six direct hits to kill an infantry player.

[amber kelp]

Portal does not stop the base game from being bad.

[tender folio]

no money, no honey ... so money first! yeah

[main mango]

angel? who is angel?

[brittle geyser]

I would be very interested to see data surrounding pick rates in the beta, but I also would be much more interested in seeing how players choose characters with the full roster in the game

[mossy vigil]

<is a beta

[arctic grove]

I do mannn like imagine thicc thigh warmth 😩.. but she lives 700 miles away currently 😀

[amber kelp]

base game has more problems than just bugs

[harsh furnace]

Beta is 1 percent of game

[arctic grove]

not what the devs said

[main mango]

more like 15

[amber kelp]

support specialist that can give armor and ammo

[tame cobalt]

Anghel also gives armor and revives you with some armor instead of full health

[amber kelp]

its called a cope

[mossy vigil]

feel free to pumble the game to absolute shit once it releases but it was legit a beta

[quiet pawn]

What is so bad it can't be adjusted?

[mossy vigil]

im not defending it i dont really care

[main mango]

cause it might be good?

[harsh furnace]

Specialists are fine you guys need to accept change and they still require teamwork

[hidden sand]

Man I hope they improve the flight mechanics for the drone, it was so tedious to fly around, at least on a controller

[rich elbow]

1% is an underestimation, but there is naturally going to be a lot more content upon launch, followed by updates going forward.

[steady spire]

More like 30

[arctic grove]

exactly..they act as if they're gonna throw in a portal mode to every single future installment after 2042 .. that shit ain't gonna happen

[tame cobalt]

Nothing

[brittle geyser]

Wait how the fuck would the gadgets they have deincentivize teamplay? You drop an ammo or medcrate, it is there and your team benefits from it. None of the gadgets outside of the armor plate (which only irish seems to replenish) serve a selfish function

[arctic grove]

I have no idea what people are hating on specialists, they'r ejust so much better.

[tender folio]

I can't wait for full release.

[arctic grove]

They offer more teamwork

than classes do

[harsh furnace]

We love you devs don’t let the negativity in ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[hidden sand]

Really hoping we get in depth Portal gameplay this month, along with more information about the logic editor

[remote forum]

Lol if you don't like the game why are you even on this discord

[carmine elbow]

Bffs season 7

[arctic grove]

the 13 year old reponse, love it

[arctic grove]

if ur being serious..could you please elaborate 🥲

[mossy vigil]

is movement locked to what we saw in the beta or will prior anims like backwards prone be returning

[arctic grove]

" it unlocks more possibilities " isn't an answer btw

lmao

[rich elbow]

I don’t work in the animation team so I can’t really speak to that I’m afraid

[mossy vigil]

ight thx anyway

[timid crypt]

This game fucking stinks!

[main mango]

through it we are able to experience past games. we can also use inaccessible items from previous titles. through it we can also play game modes created by players. we can also fix the problems with the base game and play a more ideal version of the vanilla game

[tame cobalt]

Blocked btw

[arctic grove]

Sure. Let me ask you a question first. In the previous battlefield titles that you played? What was the culmination of teamwork? Throwing 2 dinstinct boxes on the ground for aoe heals and ammo? Repair tool?

[haughty dagger]

It was the most clunky and annoying thing to do. I don’t blame people for insta giving up during beta since the person trying to revive would die before they figured out the perfect position to not swap weapons lol. It was definitely comical at times watching someone try to figure it out though.

[split loom]

the beta was only a day long too short

[timid crypt]

This game won’t get many sales

[mossy vigil]

false

[solar sky]

as a newcomer to bf i found it way more useful playing as a team than not. running out of ammo, needing meds, etc. idk what folks mean when they saying there is no team play. i did not like playing without having a full team and we all played our roles.

[tender folio]

thb, before saying game will fail or successful. better remain judgement until its release. making judgement now is like giving score for unfinished food in the kitchen.

[remote forum]

@timid crypt it will

[amber kelp]

when anyone can do anything, then you dont need to work with anyone else. You dont need someone else to find an ammo crate, or a med kit, and you certainly dont need to play a support role to get these things. No player has any weakness they need to overcome, and because of that they dont need to depend on eachother. The roles of each class are so thoroughly blurred that they may as well not exist, and you cant count on any teammate even having a support gadget.

[split loom]

cant even tell if the game is good cuz the beta was a 5 month build of the game only time will tell when its full released

[harsh furnace]

4 days if you preorder and 2 days open beta

[vocal tusk]

Backwards prone wont be returning. It was removed because "it added visibility issues and was used to corner camp" Florian (DICE Dev)

[tame cobalt]

Buff slow mode

[timid crypt]

THIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS!!!

[hidden sand]

Such a bad excuse for the removal of that, imo. BFV had visibility issues by itself, the supine prone didn't cause them.

[brittle geyser]

in BF4 you can run into a medic who didn't take meds because they instead took an M320 and defibs.

Now if you run into a falck in bf2042, and you always know that she will be able to heal and revive you. Plus the stim gun allows for wayyyyy more opportunities to serve a battle medic role than the medcrate/medpouch in previous games

[arctic grove]

neither do a lotta people here. I was getting hated on a few days ago until I showed proof of my 800 hours on bf4, only then did people start to reason..it's ridiculous how inexperienced players act like they're the gods of every discord server they join. If you don't have at least 5 years in a franchise..you shouldn't really be speaking about it's direction or logistics. (least that's what I follow personally)

[timid crypt]

Bf5 was better than this dogshit of a game

[harsh furnace]

Bf5 def didn’t have visibility issues

[rich elbow]

The build was more recant than 5 months. Just wanna make that observation

[carmine elbow]

They better add bffs reference

[main mango]

no its not, they have shown game modes that have already been created, providing a completely different experience

[hidden sand]

It was 2 months, right?

[arctic grove]

but it still gave you plenty of gadgets that pertained to those classes, regardless of if ur solely a medic or not

[amber kelp]

I dont buy this explanation. BFV had notoriously bad visibility, regardless of surpine stance. Im more inclined to believe that it was removed to appeal to cod players who seem to hate anything that isnt run and gun

[quiet pawn]

You all are not being diversive and inclusive enough to our Battlefield characters. Specialists MATTER

[brittle geyser]

But the major gameplay altering gadgets are locked behind specialists! Falck is and will be the only support class character in the game who can revive.

That ability is really strong and it is restricted to a single character you must pick

[tame cobalt]

Nah

[dense torrent]

it isnt even fully out yet bro. Im not trying to defend like this game gonna be perfect but we gotta wait

[harsh furnace]

Yeah I love them 😍

[arctic grove]

wait..the beta wasn't even 5 months old?

[tender folio]

bruh

[remote forum]

@timid crypt such a cry baby

[vocal tusk]

Why would COD players hate something that helps you corner camp...this is such a bad take man

[timid crypt]

Not my fault the game sucks

[main mango]

no, they made the base game, which is already what we are paying for, plus Portal and Hazard zone

[harsh furnace]

Why does it matter if 5 months to 2 months it still old

[amber kelp]

Falck is and will be the only support class character in the game who can revive.
This is the only example you give because its the only example where the class roles still exist. (plus Angel also can do this but he is a support so whatever)

[hidden sand]

The main reason Florian actually gave was wasting dev time. Which honestly is super frustrating, because you could argue the rocket launch and Tornado are even more of a waste since it doesn't provide anything to the gameplay.

[solar sky]

COD players love to corner camp so yeah @amber kelp not sure where you got that from

[rich elbow]

Just to be clear, the build was from a “couple months” ago. So somewhere between 2-3 months give or take.

[brittle geyser]

You can cover up a single pain point from previous games and further augment your playstyle with the single gadget slot in this game.

Always seem to never be able to get an ammo box for you? Now you can carry it and cover this one weakness while giving ammo to your team as well.

But the more powerful abilities are restricted to specialists

[remote forum]

The beta was great for me, had a blast playing it. If you don't like it don't buy it @timid crypt

[tame cobalt]

Removing corner camp mechanic = based devs that are smarter than armchair devs

[arctic grove]

I made a subreddit for hazard zone https://www.reddit.com/r/bf2042HazardZone?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[vocal tusk]

The people who made those events arent part of the movement/animation team

[amber kelp]

Cod players cannot handle a map with doors. A lot of them hate all the stuff mw19 added because it "encourages camping"

[mossy vigil]

hopefully hazard zone is good

[arctic grove]

repairing vehicles, suppressing fire with mg's, throwing medpacks, being a smoke n revive player, being a revive player at ALL, rushing in with assault and large explosive power, staying at the back and sniping with recon..spotting enemies when the chance is presented..etc etc. There were so many diverse ways to be a team player, it seems like a pipedream now.

[hidden sand]

Thank you for saying this, finally people will stop with the 5-8 month old build stuff lol

[arctic grove]

ALL specialists literally do what classes do in previous battlefield games by fault. They have ammo boxes, Repair tool, and Healing boxes, and they can revive squad members. Ontop of that there's radar balls ,caspers drone for riskless intel and EMP's (which disables flares), EMP and Armor Bombs from Sundance, Armor Revives, Loadout Station summon, Ballstics shield, Deployable Cover, Silence (prevents players from using their abilities).

[main mango]

do you speak for the entire BF player base? no you do not

[arctic grove]

interesting

[brittle geyser]

Who is angel? I thought the only announced 5th specialist was Irish

[arctic grove]

thats alll in the game except for suppressing fire with mg's, they took that ount which is fine imo. We got way more.

[upper tangle]

Every time I look in here people are always arguing

[tender folio]

several people are tying

[tacit river]

Don't forget caspers drone synergy with c4

[solar sky]

@amber kelp wz has doors all over the place and has a much higher player base than mw2019, cw, etc so you're not making sense

[tame cobalt]

Datamined, plus he was in lore snippets and had appearances in various promotional materials

[amber kelp]

One of the specialists seen in the trailer. Temporyal leaked the details.
Romanian, support. Main gadget is an ammo box that also gives armor. Perk is that revived players get armor.

[arctic grove]

oh and there's wallhacks too