battlefield-2042

[hidden sand]

For a lot of them you did, but I'm obviously only talking about the ones that required it

[flint jay]

You did, for certain scopes at the end

[waxen umbra]

star wars BF 2 darth vader flashbacks

[next onyx]

Even though most of the attachments were just carbon copies

The ones that made the biggest difference were the opticals

[weak umbra]

we need p2w guns plz dice

[copper fulcrum]

gib ump-45 or a PP-Bizon

[graceful matrix]

I remember i need battlepack for attachement but probably to bad to unlock. Or do a kill witout scope with scar-H

[hidden sand]

To unlock every attachment in bf4 it would take an insane amount of time

[flint jay]

Wasn't fun that just to get a coyote scope I had to grind countless packs for a chance to get it

[next onyx]

https://youtu.be/n7Zk9RSvUIE

[weak umbra]

[next onyx]

Would love to see the crossbow come back

[copper fulcrum]

It will

[remote kiln]

it was discussed a few months ago however the team are not only working on it but maintaining it post release

[tired jacinth]

UMP- 9

[copper fulcrum]

no

[carmine mulch]

Phantom bow better

[hidden sand]

I mean it's essentially the same system. You're just getting them from kills rather than xp. But you get xp the same way, so it's essentially the same.

[arctic grove]

Just had a good ol' 1v1. Missed those days lmao

[remote kiln]

portal is something they plan to expand with over time after the game is out it's not a one and done thing

[waxen umbra]

Holy smokes I now realized what I really want to see:
Multiple 40mm ammunition types for underbarrel launch with the plus-system

[copper fulcrum]

Buckshot 40mm

[arctic grove]

What order you hoping for? (If they release games for portal as seasons.)

[next onyx]

Ahhh

[graceful matrix]

Buckshot on lmg

[copper fulcrum]

M249 loaded with buckshot

[arctic grove]

I the hard-line map with the crane

[next onyx]

Crossbows are better from the get go!

[graceful matrix]

👌

[remote kiln]

the team weren't specific, they aren't planning to go by game mainly by what the community want the most to begin with

[proud glen]

is beta over?

[next onyx]

Yes

[copper fulcrum]

perhaps

[arctic grove]

This game on console is fucking awful

[carmine mulch]

It’s about sending a message, Way.

[remote kiln]

so if most want boats they will be added first etc, eSports etc

[next onyx]

Shotgun LMG reminds me that on halo5 you could mod guns on forge to fire a completely different projectile.

[arctic grove]

Oh nice. In that case. I want hard-line maps 🤬🤬

[graceful matrix]

Just remouve "This" and you have a rule of life

[timid cosmos]

they wouldn't jsut have to add stuff from old games, they could also simply further flesh out eras with more stuff

[waxen umbra]

Now I kinda want a slingslot. Like some gag weapon like the Kolibri was

[next onyx]

So you could give the Halo CE magnum Sniper ammunition

[remote kiln]

it's very much like the CTE DICE did, only this time, in an entire gamemode

[arctic grove]

That's a good idea.

[next onyx]

Which part Dash, Cause xbox one/ps4 from what i've heard aren't too bad.

[hidden sand]

BF1 we'll likely come first though, I think. I'd say a big majority of the community wants BF1 first. But outside of that, it would be a lot easier for them to work with I'd imagine, since they'd just need to port it over.

[next onyx]

Their hard drives are awful

[arctic grove]

Wasn't there like a finger gun in bfv?

[next onyx]

Yeah

[hidden sand]

This is why DICE L.A. is so great

[copper fulcrum]

Best gun in the game hands down

[arctic grove]

Gross man.get out of here.

[weak umbra]

tf

[arctic grove]

PlayStation 4 whoever says it ain’t bad is lying , it feels like apex legends , it can’t run on old consoles it’s funny😭😭

We don't accept puns in these parts

[copper fulcrum]

C:<

[remote kiln]

they're very much in a wait and see phase for portal at the minute so there can be a solid foundational community built around the game first because any content is added, which is a wise decision

[arctic grove]

C:+^

Man why am I awake?

[copper fulcrum]

Perhaps too much caffeine

[arctic grove]

Definitely not I only drink water

[waxen umbra]

Btw I never played EFT, but since Hazard Zone will reportedly be similar, can anyone maybe explain the appeal of EFT?

[remote forum]

Or not enough?

[odd fox]

Like a br with loot on death

[remote kiln]

if I needed to guess, boats will probably come first followed by maps and some sort of ranked mode

[copper fulcrum]

You shoot entire shotgun magazine into a guy running at you with a sledgehammer but you die anyways

[arctic grove]

What kind of boats we talking?

[remote kiln]

they seem to be the most, in demand currently, logically

[arctic grove]

Like the dreadnaught?

[remote kiln]

the ones from battlefield 4

[timid cosmos]

EFT is more extreme realism, no hud no friendly icons or anything like that

[waxen umbra]

The tension in BR comes from trying to be the last one standing. But what incentive is there in EFT to really take on other squads?

[arctic grove]

Oh 😞

[carmine mulch]

Hardcore shooter with punishing losses, but extremely exhilarating victories

[copper fulcrum]

There's a lot of Friendly Fire in EFT

[hidden sand]

It kind of blows my mind with 3 years of development and 4 studios working on this game, Naval combat is not present.

[timid cosmos]

EFT was just about escaping with loot

[next onyx]

Most likely to steal their stuff Drop

[remote kiln]

there's no reason they couldn't add the dreadnoughts theoretically

[odd fox]

Getting out with the loot you found

[next onyx]

"Wow look at what we snagged in the way"

[graceful matrix]

The hazard zone is a br ?

[copper fulcrum]

Wow look, we lost everything

[remote kiln]

as mentioned it's purely up to the community

[arctic grove]

Ahh ok. So you'd start with like a terrible weapon?

[waxen umbra]

Because other players want to take it from you?

[timid cosmos]

BR you start with nothing and loot, EFT u grinded loot to start with something

[next onyx]

They said it wouldn't be

[hidden sand]

To be fair, they didn't have the tech for ribbons or x2 xp. We gotta give them a break, y'know?

Nah I'm just kidding, hopefully they add it.

[copper fulcrum]

It played okay on Series X. There was some artifacting though

[arctic grove]

Hazard zone sounds incredibly competitive either way. I love it

[remote kiln]

DICE LA could very much just have made portal a one and done gamemode and it probably would have been fine

[copper fulcrum]

DICE LA? More like Ripple Effect, gottem

[remote kiln]

but the fact they're building it out over the years will ensure it will thrive for years

[graceful matrix]

Do we have any certified information?

[arctic grove]

Been a while since I've had a game invest me and get me riled up

[timid cosmos]

i don't beleive hazard zone will be like tarkov tho, the bf gameplay does not translate

[copper fulcrum]

or does it?
VSauce theme plays

[remote kiln]

it makes the most logical sense

[next onyx]

If you prod around you should be able to but i do know it's official word

[remote kiln]

a squad based gamemode is core to battlefield

[hidden sand]

Well live service hasn't started yet. I have full trust and hope in them, especially because it's DICE L.A., but anything could happen.

[remote kiln]

and it already exists in a niche form in prior games with squad based TDM which was very popular

[waxen umbra]

I'm also having doubts whether we'd really recognize EFT in hazard zone

[weak umbra]

35 hours till hazard zone reveal

[remote kiln]

EA stated they were developing a mode for 2042 that was unlike anything they had in their portfolio, what FPS mode are they missing? there is only one, and it's tarkov

[weak umbra]

i mean he not wrong

[arctic grove]

Why what is considered the bad dice?

If dice la is good

[weak umbra]

which dice makes the bf games dice la

[arctic grove]

something actually that’s good

[carmine mulch]

DICE SE is considered by many to be the ‘inconsistent’ ones

[arctic grove]

Did SE make hard-line?

[hidden sand]

Yes there has, and if you genuinely think otherwise then I'm convinced you've never played a BF game past 5 minutes. There has always been lone wolves, I'm not denying that, but with how classes worked it forced teamplay to happen. If you want ammo, you have to be support. If you want meds, you have to be a medic, etc. This was core to the game, even if there has been lone wolves in all of them.

[carmine mulch]

DICE SE made all battlefields

[timid cosmos]

if they try and make tarkov they will fail at it

[graceful matrix]

well it's time for me GN bud 👋

[remote kiln]

EA have every other form of gamemode, they have BR, normal shooters, the lot, everything except tarkov

[waxen umbra]

BR: This I understand; fight for the sake of becoming #1
"Escape from Tarkov"-like: Fight for loot, for the sake of using said loot in next deployment...?

[carmine mulch]

DICE LA has helped with them all extensively

[arctic grove]

Sorry I'm uneducated on this. Lmao

[weak umbra]

me to

[remote kiln]

^^

[odd fox]

Yeah or you can kill them and get the loot they dropped in with

[carmine mulch]

In the case of BF4, DICE LA basically took care of the game after launch

[remote kiln]

DICE SE doesn't have the, smoothest track record

[arctic grove]

So are we talking about a studio network kinda like rockstar has a network of studios?

[carmine mulch]

Still a great development team though imo

[timid cosmos]

dice la didnt make specalists

[remote kiln]

they made a lot of decisions that fried BF4 from the getgo

[remote kiln]

absolutely, nobody can discredit them for that

[arctic grove]

So Dice LA sorta fix stuff after launches?

[remote kiln]

DICE LA were created by EA after BF4 launched in the mess it did

[waxen umbra]

But the primary objective is still mission success right, and good loot is bonus?

[timid cosmos]

objective was loot

[remote kiln]

and were more or less assigned the game so SE could work on other projects

[hidden sand]

Yes exactly, it was forced, so it happened. It's no longer forced and not it's not happening, which is why 2042s missing classes is an issue.

[arctic grove]

I'll have to read into this it sounds fascinating

[remote kiln]

they made the game BF4 should have been from the start and a lot more

[vast mesa]

I just wish 2042 was out, I'm so bored of the current games 😂 already achieved what I wanted to achieve in the past BFs, time to start over.

[remote kiln]

so it's only right they get their own shot at a new IP

[carmine mulch]

From my understanding, it seems like DICE LA helps a ton with post launch issues so DICE SE can start development on new content and such. Though obviously that relationship is subject to change from game to game and I have no idea how true it is lol

[hidden sand]

Yeah this is probably the reason Battlefront (2015) and Battlefield 1 came out the ways they did.

Those were the best launches DICE has ever had iirc.

[arctic grove]

That's what I was thinking. I mean it would make sense, it's how a couple other studios work.

I believe cod does a similar thing.

[hidden sand]

Of the more recent games, at least.

[waxen umbra]

I don't expect much to change in BF2042, except for teamwork to happen more organically, actually. Like, at some point someone will start bringing ammo boxes instead of the RPG because this person noticed everyone keeps running out of ammunition and not able to sustain long firefights.

[remote kiln]

Vince zampella is a great leader in his own right whatever ripple effects create will probably be great in its own right, DICE LA knew how to tap into what the community wanted from the getgo

[carmine mulch]

Though I do know that DICE LA did a ton of work for BF4 post-launch, and are often praised for ‘saving the game’

[arctic grove]

Well if DICE LA were the ones who did the dlc for bf4 then Id definitely trust them

[hidden sand]

No? Gadgets and Weapons are free for all, quite literally meaning classes are not present.
Why would you take ammo when you take a rocket launcher instead? There's no sacrifices to be made within 2042s system and that is an issue.

[remote kiln]

they were responsible for the CTE maps that came around from scratch

[rose cairn]

each specialist is assigned to a specific class i think

[timid cosmos]

doubt it, used to be hey my class has ammo box anyway might as well drop it but now the choice is between box and rocket/c4 armor all stuff that helps yourself more

[waxen umbra]

I used the ammo box in the beta because I kept running out of bullets to shoot.

[arctic grove]

So they're goats.

[remote kiln]

the base DLC DICE LA helped to finalise however they were done by SE

[rose cairn]

but the gadgets and weapons are for all as you said

[waxen umbra]

I used the ammo box in the beta because I kept running out of bullets to shoot.

[spring locust]

Hes talking about using the recoilless as a sniper

[remote kiln]

pretty much I still remember taking part in the multi staged development the maps had it was a great experience

[hidden sand]

No, specialists have their own unique gadgets. But you can still use any gadget in your secondary slot.

[remote kiln]

they made the maps public during multiple design phases to the public to gauge feedback and change stuff later on

[arctic grove]

Nice. Well it's 4am nice hanging out but I gotta sleep so enjoy your days.

[remote kiln]

the jungle and temple you now see was at one point just a white texture funnily enough

[vast mesa]

I mean the "specialist" are loosely class based, the medic girl is the only op who can revive players outside of the squad. Boris has the sentry gun and more of a stationary "Support Class", and the Grapple hook and mobility is basically an assault class. And Casper's awareness and drones are all supportive recon elements.

There is still a class structure just different than what we are used to.

[remote kiln]

I was never a fan of classes anyways they were totally unnecessary

[waxen umbra]

The great thing I like is you can now swap responsibilities. Let the sniper in your squad carry the ammo box, so the more close-range squadmembers can carry something more relevant during fights.

[hidden sand]

Bleh this isn't worth discussing anyway

[remote kiln]

restricted gameplay and tactical mechanics

[vast mesa]

I agree, it makes for more unique personalized gameplay

[jolly flax]

Poggers Zone in 2 days

[remote kiln]

put it this way the idea a sniper carries C4 around was never realistic to begin with

[hidden sand]

Here's hoping they actually release a lot of info about it rather it being just a cgi trailer for it

[odd fox]

Just loot and getting out

[opaque hornet]

@hidden sand I’m with you on this, but I can also say I have played every battlefield and have been around from the start.

[vast mesa]

Snipers could have C4 in BF4 too I believe

[timid cosmos]

u didn't have to snipe as recon

[remote kiln]

they could which was just silly

[waxen umbra]

I think his point was that that did not make sense to begin with

[remote kiln]

this happens every time a battlefield game launches probably just nostalgia

[timid cosmos]

best recons were on the front line with c4 and radio becons

[jolly flax]

I'm deprived for content. I want Hazard Zone gameplay

[next onyx]

Aggro recons were fun

[stable tulip]

battlefield 2042, sadly is the worst battlefield so far, sorry devs, just this game isn’t meant to be

[remote kiln]

LOL exactly

[vast mesa]

I don't have a problem with recons having C4 personally

[jolly flax]

PFFFHAHAHAA

[weak umbra]

hardline

[hidden sand]

BF1 made aggressive snipers work perfectly

[visual oasis]

What if with the support class you could revive people?

[carmine mulch]

Hardline was a great game

[stable tulip]

BFV is best

[jolly flax]

THE AMOUNT OF WRONG IN THIS MESSAGE IS GOD TIER

[next onyx]

I don't mind the weapons no longer being limited but at at the same it would be nice knowing who had what

Bad co 2 support could revive people

[hidden sand]

Could you elaborate a little more on why you think so?

[remote kiln]

do engineers carrying shotguns even need to be discussed? I think not

[vast mesa]

Especially now with Caspers awareness ability, it's like a makeshift claymore that can be placed on any surface

[next onyx]

A few months ago i had a support on bf5 revive me with a needle

As if they were a medic

[hidden sand]

It can't be wrong, it's their opinion, they can think it's the worst lol

[jolly flax]

u sure it was t a squad revive?

[opaque hornet]

I would agree. It was a very good game.

[waxen umbra]

This was some kind of relic from way way back in battlefield 2. Engineers had the shotgun. Some things just need to go

[next onyx]

I was sure

[odd fox]

Servers are kinda up?

[next onyx]

it was a blueberry revive

[visual oasis]

Maybe the guy picked up a medic gun,

[next onyx]

I clipped it

[remote kiln]

LOL yeah that's why it's so funny it was never based on realism to begin with

[vast mesa]

I personally couldn't be more excited, I had a shit ton of fun in the beta and I'm ready for more

[jolly flax]

show us the clip

[stable tulip]

just in general the game is literally a bunch of pieces of scrap put together but, the game is still good just out of all bf’s you can’t compare

[visual oasis]

Picking up guns from other classes can give you those abilities

[timid cosmos]

why do shotguns need to go

[jolly flax]

they dont

[vast mesa]

Talk to the Geneva Convention

[neat crane]

I disagree, ignoring the specialist problem to me the game feels great and something I enjoy alot

[remote kiln]

they don't, I was pointing out how it used to be that engineers in older games could only use the shotguns

[wide shore]

Geneva Suggestion*

[remote kiln]

and why classes were never based on realism to begin with

[vast mesa]

I like your thinking 😂

[hidden sand]

Who ever thought they were based on realism? lol

[jolly flax]

Geneva Recommendation

[waxen umbra]

lmao that damn Bad Company 2 medic with the LMG... wacky stuff man

[wide shore]

Dat thing we all agree to but we don’t actually follow

[remote kiln]

it's a weird argument being propagated around r/battlefield unsurprisingly about "tactical realism"

[remote forum]

If we are going for realism, no respawns allowed guys 😂

[hidden sand]

Ah yes, because you disagree with me, you are whining

[neat crane]

Dudes probably only play bf4 hardcore mode

[jolly flax]

all i do in hardcore is punch my teammates until im banned

[arctic grove]

So why does everyone hate specialists?

[remote kiln]

as much as the naysayers and r/battlefield think 2042 will most likely be a phenomenal success, because it has what prior games were missing for longevity

[hidden sand]

I was using "you" generally there, not as in anything personal

[neat crane]

Best strategy to success

[waxen umbra]

the notion that its "everyone" is simply wrong

[arctic grove]

I don’t care

[wide shore]

The best way to play hardcore, is to not play hardcore at all

[arctic grove]

Orbital was a shit map ngl

[remote forum]

I dont care about specialists, I just want to c4 people with drones and then t bag them

[waxen umbra]

yet you're here asking things?

[hidden sand]

Literally never seen that brought up, such an odd thing lol
Classes help and force teamplay, they've never really been realistic

[arctic grove]

Ahem.....
C5*

[jolly flax]

I don't, I just think they should be at least limited in what gadgets they can use based on the Specialists Class

[neat crane]

I dont hate specialists and I dont see much of the problem with it either, the you cant tell what class they are anymore doesnt affect me because I never know if anyone was medic or engineer in the previous games anyways

[arctic grove]

What?

Same but the other maps look better
Tho orbital had the nice rocket

[robust patio]

Will hazard zone just b a match of a squad or a match with multiple squads against each other???????????

[waxen umbra]

wOT?

[remote forum]

Orbital was fun

[remote kiln]

yeah it's just weird tbh

[arctic grove]

I agree. I enjoy specialists, just wish there were gun limits.

[timid cosmos]

Yea like bf2, because they had a purpose which was repairing

[jolly flax]

you can also cover rangers in C5

[vast mesa]

We will find out soon

[arctic grove]

I heard hazard zone is like tarkov
Hmmm
Battlefield tarkov...

[weak umbra]

me to needs to be a bit less open but a d c and e flag are fun af so many people

[arctic grove]

I don’t care if I didn’t use the correct term bud.

[neat crane]

Orbital is nice and all but I really like that South Korean map

[stiff pollen]

Reminder that a top pilot went 135-0 in the litte bird in the beta.

[hidden sand]

BFV was the only game to remove identifiable classes, but it kept faction based designs
Which is what is such an issue in 2042

[jolly flax]

gun limits shouldn't exist, gadget limits makes sense tho

[stiff pollen]

what a god among men

[opaque hornet]

This may be an aside, but in find it interesting that most the people I play battlefield with have very little interest in the main game and are only excited for battlefield portal. The though being that they can finely build the battlefield game they want.

[robust patio]

Tarkov?

[waxen umbra]

youre not making much sense but alright

[neat crane]

The only game I could really tell which class was what was hardline

[arctic grove]

Worded it wrong, I mean like the way BF4 and shit has it.

[remote forum]

BFV balancing was trash though, ruined the game for me

[remote kiln]

this is what happens when you stay in a hive mind for too long

[jolly flax]

only support's have rocket launcher's and only engineer's have repair tools

[stiff pollen]

the main game will be fine but most people i know are excited for HZ and portal

[wide shore]

I really don’t think specialists will be as jarring when we have all 10 and people have them customized. I’m more worried about giving players incentive to not be selfish, and to play their class.

[arctic grove]

Still don’t care but alright

I'm more excited for bfportal tho
All out warfare is nice but portal and hazard zone will be better

[neat crane]

I see the faction issue but its a beta, give it time

[remote forum]

What is portal? @arctic grove

[desert elbow]

We don’t even know what Hazard zone is

[jolly flax]

please tell me you aren't serious

[hidden sand]

I mean, is it wrong? Specialist complaints have generally been everywhere. It's pretty common among the community.

[stiff pollen]

its forge basically but no map editing. complete control of the battlefield theatre

[arctic grove]

Let me dream 😔

[next onyx]

Found the video where the blueberry support revived me.

[jolly flax]

YES

[wide shore]

Reddit and conformation bias. Name a better duo.

[next onyx]

Check #battlefield-legacy-titles

[remote kiln]

yes it's a false idea of how much complaining there supposedly is, that is, everybody, because well, it's reddit

[timid cosmos]

customisation wont help with identifying what side they are on, im worried only a few will even be meta to

[waxen umbra]

great to meet you

[remote kiln]

lmao butter and bread

[arctic grove]

Tho after launch theh should add..

Bf1 and 2142 and bfv to portal

[neat crane]

My google feed wont shut up about how everyone hates specialists

[stiff pollen]

i hope they do add 2142 to the portal

[arctic grove]

I never thought they were bad tbh ngl

[stiff pollen]

would love to get some walkers in the action

[desert elbow]

It’s basically a game creator mode, you can edit weapon damage values and bullet velocity etc. They are bringing back 6 maps from old Battlefield games for it too

[arctic grove]

I want titan mode
That's why

[remote forum]

Sounds epic

[stiff pollen]

titan assault returning would be epic

[hidden sand]

I don't think it's everyone, but I've seen complaints about how they function as factions everywhere. I think if every major game changer is bringing it up as an issue, it's probably pretty common. I say that specifically because they're paid by EA.

[stiff pollen]

i doubt itd return for the main game tho :/ since the whole plot is proxy warfare

[wide shore]

Not if they balance them correctly. I feel like visually, a lot of people had issues seeing the difference between teammates/enemies was because everyone looked the same. And there was only 4 characters spread among 128 players. Also, the blue icon was tiny for friendlies.

[arctic grove]

I feel like everyone is being a bit dramatic with how bad the beta was it really wasn’t horrible

[stiff pollen]

every major youtuber complained about 5.2 ttk rebalance in bfv and it still took dice 4 months to fix it

[neat crane]

Ive only played the battlefield games that are currently available on steam, so BC2-BFV cant say much for a comparison of the older games a.e 2124

[vast mesa]

I like specialist for the most part, the only problem I have with them is that the classes from before were "Nameless Soldiers" for the most part, minus the elites from recent BFs. I think seeing the same exact person is kinda odd, the player appearance customization from the other games made it feel more like a custom experience.

[wide shore]

I feel like every game that releases these days has a hatewagon.

[neat crane]

Even then Ive only been playing battlefield games since the launch of V

[hidden sand]

I get this is only my own experience, but I haven't seen a single person praise how they function as factions outside of this Discord.
Probably because it's objectively bad in terms of visibility.

[sullen flame]

BF 2042 such a good game

[wide shore]

One bad thing just gets amplified into some big thing that it’s not. It always happens.

[waxen umbra]

Another problem is, depending on who you ask, "the specialist problem" refers to either:

• The skins looking the same for all factions
• 'i cant run repair tool and rpg anymore'
• 'everyone will pick the same gadgets now (e.g. RPG)'
• 'Everyone will pick same operator now' (basically same as previous point since its about the specialist's gadget)

[desert elbow]

What’s wrong with specialists if we can literally just replace them with classes ourselves in portal?

[arctic grove]

Yeah. Classes are already in portal

[timid cosmos]

you don't get it the issue with enemies/friendlies is not that they looked the same more that they were not different, a customised mckay still would not be unique to one side

[stiff pollen]

the main mode being AOW and portal being a seperate thing that you have to adher to their server browser for

[desert elbow]

Exactly, people keep trying to dodge the blatant solution

[neat crane]

The second problem is probably the only one that will remain after launch

[stiff pollen]

if servers were static and didnt go down once everybody left it wouldnt be an issue

[waxen umbra]

Yeah thats my bet too.

[vast mesa]

As far as gadgets go I saw a large diversity in the beta

[desert elbow]

They may be static, we have to wait and see

[stiff pollen]

they arent, they confirmed theyre basically bfv's servers

[neat crane]

Not a big fan of 1 utility item only

[hidden sand]

Because the main portion of the game is going to be what drives future implementations in future games.
I can see why it concerns people, because it really doesn't need to return. There is no good reason to essentially remove factions from the new setting of the game. They're there in name only.

[wide shore]

Well, that comes down to the games lore and story. I get that people don’t like that.

I think a Russian Falck should have different default camo than an American Falck. But, once they’re customized it isn’t even gonna matter.

[stiff pollen]

just more options to keep moderate said server like banlists etc

[desert elbow]

When did they do that?

[vast mesa]

Well more or less the feeling of being different people if you know what I mean, now we are all the same people

[waxen umbra]

As did I. Some people want ammo box so they can shoot all day. Other want the RPG or whatever. I saw folks running those armor plates. It sort of worked out it seemed, for the beta at least.

[stiff pollen]

a while ago?

[copper fulcrum]

Falck with an Ammo box is peak teamwork

[next onyx]

When they announced the community server option for portal, The only thing that differs is that people remain indefinitely banned.

[vast mesa]

Yeah, I personally switched up my gadgets a lot

[neat crane]

I liked healing myself in bf1 and V as assault id like to keep that feature thank you very much

[wide shore]

What they need to do better, is differentiating between enemy and friendly.

[stiff pollen]

pretty sure it was a dev or a blogpost that outlined the community options was that it was essentially bfv's community servers but with a banlist and better admin support

[desert elbow]

Not really, if they see that the overwhelming majority likes classes in Portal then they will make them return. If they bring back specialists again just for money, then they would’ve done it either way

[remote kiln]

yeah if you read this subreddit you'd be thinking 99.9% of people are complaining about it 1.2k upvotes lmao

[opaque hornet]

Most don’t like the game, but hardline had player and weapon customization.

[timid cosmos]

lore does not address clones or mckay fighting himself even if his clone wears a different hat

[remote forum]

Reddit is a cesspit

[vast mesa]

I'm not saying with will fundamentally effect gameplay or anything, this is more of my personal preference

[neat crane]

I dont want to trade M5 for meds as mackay, its just not worth it

[desert elbow]

They have such a superiority complex “We deserve”

[hidden sand]

Once the last player leaves, the server shuts down. There is no 24/7 option for Portal servers as of yet.
Which is kind of mind boggling, because, how is it going to thrive otherwise? RSP is a necessary feature for Portal.

[waxen umbra]

That proposal is depressing to look at

[jolly flax]

just because the game is playing on a live service model doesn't mean it's Battlefield 5 servers

[wide shore]

It does though. They’re NoPats. Non-Patriated soldiers who will fight for either side.

[hidden sand]

I don't think it's that serious lol.

[desert elbow]

Source?

[proud glen]

☣️

[remote kiln]

I burst out laughing

[timid cosmos]

either side, not both sides at the same time

[desert elbow]

I wouldn’t put it past them, it is reddit after all

[neat crane]

Hows mackay engineer 😭
He doesnt feel like one at all

[stiff pollen]

if you dislike the state of gaming rn theres always indie games or better yet, quiting gaming altogether and going on with your life

[copper fulcrum]

It's reddit, it's always anger

[proud glen]

is beta over?

[remote forum]

No

[desert elbow]

Ah I guess you’re right then

[vast mesa]

I'm a fan of no weapon restrictions

[hidden sand]

Yeah, except I'm not just browsing the subreddits. I've looked everywhere where major BF2042 discussion is going on, the specialists complaints regarding classes and visibility are extremely frequent and hold the majority. That's just my experience, but I feel like it means something.

[neat crane]

I wonder

[next onyx]

Basically the same as 5's, Only difference being that there's a persistent banlist.

[proud glen]

hmm

[next onyx]

I'd pay to keep my server up 24/7

[jolly flax]

no'nt

[stiff pollen]

this, its everywhere. it was the same when bfv's ttk was changed.

[neat crane]

No restrictions is cool but its not like i was gonna use the mcs as mackay in the first place

[wide shore]

But… there’s no compensating for that. They’d have to make exact clones of each specialist for each faction. And knowing this community they’d be mad that they’re copy-pasting content.

[soft turtle]

BF: I can't kill COD its too powerful
Activision: Fine I'll do it myself

[remote kiln]

its far from the only one aswell

[waxen umbra]

outdated game design

[fair ivy]

Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?

[remote kiln]

excellent question

[timid cosmos]

no pretty much everyone would think thats an improvement

[opaque hornet]

As would a lot of people and 24/7 servers are needed.

[vast mesa]

What the current design or past designs?

[remote forum]

Bf4 weapon restrictions were so petty, if I want to rpg people through narrow hallways I should be able to 😂

[wide shore]

I don’t see why it matters. The idea is each NoPat will fight for either side. That’s part of all their characters. It wouldn’t make sense story wise to have a Russian Falck by a different name who has a sworn allegiance to Russia.

[flat fern]

BF2042 Are there other types of natural disasters besides sandstorms and tornadoes?

[waxen umbra]

Past design. Weapon restrictions. We have learned so much and can do so much better these days.

[stiff pollen]

its whatever, i said to wait for the beta to form your opinion and people did

[remote kiln]

like out of everything bugs glitches netcode your first instinct about something being bad about 2042 is "call of duty"

[neat crane]

The only weapon restrictions i didnt like were BF1s and BFVs

[vast mesa]

Oh yeah I agree

[waxen umbra]

This strikes me as somewhat sarcastic actually lol

[timid cosmos]

just as it makes sense to have falck fighting falck

[tepid bison]

Specialists were made before the no pat story existed. The story was made for the characters, not the other way around

[hidden sand]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/q4lamb/features_from_older_bf_games_that_were_removed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I mean, this displays the objective regression 2042 has made. If people are upset by that regression, I don't see the issue? Because why would you intentionally regress features that improved gameplay and QoL? These things were important to making BF what it is. It has lost some of it's identity with the design choices they've made this time around. That doesn't mean it's necessarily mean it's a bad game, but that doesn't make it a good battlefield game.

[remote kiln]

unfortunately it's serious

[tepid bison]

Nothing is wrong with COD, it's just COD should stay CODand bf should stay bf

[amber canopy]

What app is that

[remote kiln]

Reddit for android

[vast mesa]

The recent COD games (minus MW) have been lack luster at best, not a big fan

[amber canopy]

Oh alright never heard of it before

[remote forum]

I hope we get a 2042 version of battlefields friends

[remote kiln]

oh nah some are valid I'm just memeing on the subreddit that's all

[copper fulcrum]

I personally agree with the Annointedone there

[vast mesa]

If anything the "Specialist" seem more R6 than COD to me

[stiff pollen]

while the subreddit is horrible there are valid points to be made

[copper fulcrum]

Being locked to either an ammo/medic box or something offensive, the selfish players are always gonna go "FUCKIN' ROCKET LAUNCHER GOES BRR"

[tepid bison]

Well they are all 3 very similar

[hidden sand]

BF has always been slower paced. But if you want peak BF movement, tryout BFV.

[tepid bison]

BFV had best bf gameplay out of all BFs imo

[stiff pollen]

also im not gonna lie the speed in bf2042 isnt an issue for me atleast, but i see why some people dislike it

[wide shore]

It’s a video game though. If it were a movie or something, sure. But it’s not like Exodus had two Irish’s fighting each other. There was a clear story motive about who each character fights for, and why. Which makes sense why you can play as Irish on either side.

[remote kiln]

[waxen umbra]

Regarding what that dude said about COD's balancing problem: It stems from a combination of their game modes & objectives, player count, map size, lack of proper combat vehicles, lack of destruction, etc.
Practically the only viable tool there to help you win is a good gun.

[remote forum]

Bf3 for me, I still get flashbacks of the glare

[timid cosmos]

yea video game, which is why i care more for the gameplay reasons rather than a characters back story for a game without a campaign

[tepid bison]

Also, I am confused as to why on Exodus Oz no pat force is wearing AI Russian naval command combat gear. Why Oz has Russian infantry fighting for him?

Weird

[hidden sand]

BFs movement has always been slower paced in comparison to 2042s, or CODs, or Apex.

[vast mesa]

I want to go back to Bad Company and play that until 2042 drops

[wide shore]

I started with good ol Bad Company 1

[tepid bison]

2042 is disaster without classes imo. Makes too many issues

[vast mesa]

Same

[dim pumice]

bf4 movement could get pretty wacky

[hidden sand]

Unintentionally so. It was not designed that way.

[eternal narwhal]

its okay nothing wrong with the movement

[next onyx]

Free floating weapons is fine, Gadgets should be relegated to classes.

Idc that a medic is sniping, They're no different than a recon sitting back being useless.

[hidden sand]

BFV took everything previous BFs games were going for, improved it, added so many good features to it, improved the QoL for it.
Just such a shame all of that has been removed for 2042.

[tepid bison]

Classes are core battlefield. It is like Overwatch or Team Fortress replacing mercs or heroes with nameless soldiers like in CSGO to try to capitalize on success of CSGO.

[dusky blade]

I love BF4’s movement

I hate how modern games are “free flowing.” I wish we could return to the more simple movement

[remote forum]

Locker and metro were fast paced in bf4 what are you talking about

[arctic grove]

guys obviously cock mobile is better

[tepid bison]

Preach

[harsh furnace]

True so fun

[hidden sand]

BFVs movement is perfected BF4 movement, imo.

[next onyx]

No.

Bf5's was really good

[tepid bison]

Preach brother

[dusky blade]

Lots of BFV’s movement is tailored for that game, but I agree for the rest of the movement stuff

[harsh furnace]

Yes smooth like butter

[hidden sand]

Wdym by tailored for that game?

[tepid bison]

Like a hot knife through ice cream

[remote kiln]

[dim pumice]

yeah bf5 had good movement but bf2042 is a very different game

[dusky blade]

Crouch running should never ever return

[vast mesa]

I don't know, I think it's good that 2042 is experimenting and trying something new. I love BF and have played for a long time, and can't think of one that I've disliked but it has more or less been the same formula with some pacing and mechanical changes

[desert yacht]

I think 2042 movement would be fine if they nerfed sliding and tweak the tac sprint a bit

[storm lichen]

The problem is there’s too much freedom and not enough team encouragement. Because people can basically choose to pick whatever gun and accessories and therefore are not working as a squad to achieve an objective let alone help each other out

[dusky blade]

It’s not experimenting, it’s using whats known to be effective in order to bring cod players in

[hidden sand]

2042 is meant to be a battlefield game. Why would you not use previous features that improved and perfected movement?

[harsh furnace]

I agree with this post why bash beta opinions on a trailer just email them

[remote kiln]

the 5 likes to 45 comment ratio made me burst out laughing

[opaque hornet]

I immediately left the servers on those maps. Still hate them to this day. At least the server browser let you see map rotations. I would always jump in on the map right after them.

[dusky blade]

Because it would be useless? There’s no point in flooding movement up with stuff

[dim pumice]

yeah there should definitely be a slide cooldown

[tepid bison]

I have no problem with battlefield trying something new, just DICE ripping things out for the sake of replacing them with new things. "change for change's sake"

[vast mesa]

How is it like COD though? This is more R6 then anything else?

[next onyx]

What's so bad with crouch running?

[hidden sand]

It didn't flood up movement though. It gave more freedom and variety to it.

[next onyx]

It's actually really unseful

[dusky blade]

If this is R6 then call of duty is insurgency sandstorm

[next onyx]

Keeping yourhead down with some speed

[harsh furnace]

It’s 2042 it makes sense to choose whatever you want it’s the future

[tepid bison]

How so?

[remote kiln]

"wah CaLl Of DuTy".. something, something, bad

[tepid bison]

It is war between Russian federation and United States marines

[blissful phoenix]

no

[remote forum]

@opaque hornet Metro and Locker were my favourites, SAIGA CITY BABY

[next onyx]

Sliding I don't mind, It's really just a revision.

it's awkward at times but that can be patched

[dusky blade]

I don’t mind sliding when it’s done right. I would of course rather have it removed if it was my choice though

[hidden sand]

Man this is the absolute oddest defense for gameplay regression I've ever seen
The setting has nothing to do with movement? You would still hold your head down in a 2042 war lol.

[storm lichen]

They should def bring back crouch running

[tepid bison]

If it was exclusive no pat war, then why AI bots are Russian or American Infantry lmao

[waxen umbra]

Battlefield used to have 6 classes.
Battlefield used to have artillery.
Battlefield used to have pilotable aircraft carrier.
Battlefield used to have commander mode.

We'll be fine. As if BF will devolve into COD simply by opening up gadget selection a bit.
Everyone forgets there are more to Battlefield than just classes: There's destruction, vehicle combat, squads, and actual, organic, non-forced incentive to adapt and select different gadgets based on what the current situation is.

[dim pumice]

id rather simple approach to movement but polish it, bf1 imo was peak movement

[remote kiln]

all the people nostalgia'ing over battlefield 4 where it was impossible to actually shoot accurately in full fire mode whilst moving and where snipers had to stand still to hit shots

[opaque hornet]

Don’t get me wrong bf is I a game for many people and I’m all for other enjoying what they like. They just weren’t for me.

[remote kiln]

[hidden sand]

That's like saying "They probably wouldn't have slid in 1915, therefore we should remove this great addition to movement for no reason"

[remote forum]

I respect that, each to their own. Which was your favourite BF title? @opaque hornet

[dusky blade]

Thing is, I would find It fine if the maps were tight and smaller like BFV, in this game they’re massive and open so having crouch sprinting would do nothing but slow you down and make you vulnerable

[storm lichen]

This is actually a good rebuttal

[tepid bison]

@waxen umbra BF get rid of teamwork, tone down destruction, make vehicles handle like on ice or like feather in air, and everyone runs grapple with rocket. Squads are also joke unless you play with friend

[dusky blade]

I can guarantee if it was a thing I would never use it

[hidden sand]

No? BFV had huge maps. It's not about the size of the map either, it's contextual based on where you're positioned.

[vast mesa]

The player size also doubled so keep that in mind

[tepid bison]

I like good map to big map

[timid cosmos]

i had titanfall 2 for that, i slide hop crazy speed with prefect accuracy

[hidden sand]

On the bigger maps in BFV, personally, crouch sprinting actually helped me more than regular sprinting.

[dusky blade]

The maps in this game are double to triple the sizes of the BFV maps, which also featured much more close quarter encounters and cover like ditches and trenches

[tepid bison]

BFV movement was better objectively

[remote kiln]

gen 38 scorch main here

[tepid bison]

And gunplay was better imo

[violet robin]

Battlefield 2 is still the best to me but 2042 still has a chance at surpassing it if Portal really does work as good as advertised.

[dim pumice]

I liked those things

[opaque hornet]

I love the commander mode. I wish they would made it playable on phones directly. I used to remote play my PlayStation from my phone in between classes.

[tepid bison]

HOI4 gaming

[plain maple]

they never will my man

[proud glen]

Is beta over?

[tepid bison]

Yes

[dim pumice]

no

[plain maple]

no continue to play it forever

[opaque hornet]

Depends on the mood, bad company 2 for messing around and bf4 for team play.

[dim pumice]

it lives on in my heart

[frozen current]

Any serious players out there want to join a league send me a msg.

[hidden sand]

Actually, there's very little trenches in BFV. But the issue with this is that we've only seen 1 map being played on/experienced ourselves. And even then, it has quite a bit of of cqc. The lack of cover is honestly a big flaw in Orbital I feel.

Because Battlefield is Battlefield, COD is COD. That should answer your question.

[tepid bison]

Portal only saving grace for 2042. After 2042 is finally fished and they make new game, how are people like us who like traditional bf going to play? They will have specialists forever now

[plain maple]

yea bringing in more people from other games is good for them, and them attracting other people is good

[timid cosmos]

Cod does cod better

[dusky blade]

Fair, but it still does have many more ditched and such

And we have seen gameplay + images of the other maps, a lot of the size comes from open areas

[remote forum]

I havnt liked a cod game since mw2 and bo1 ngl

[tepid bison]

Cod is cod and bf is bf

[plain maple]

simply

[dusky blade]

Not when you change the formula and make the change at the expense of other players

[arctic grove]

Nah bro! All girls are the same!

[plain maple]

thats what happened to so many games like fortnite, even cod

[opaque hornet]

Oh I know. It was always a pipe dream. It was nice remote play it, just sucked to have a system running at home to stream to a phone on campus. Lol. Such a bad use of time.

[tepid bison]

You can enjoy both bf and cod but they should both strive to be different games

[hidden sand]

I thought you were talking about intentionally bringing in features from other games in order to bring in that audience?

[dusky blade]

The issue arises when the developers make the two similar, so they feel similar and not distinct

[dusky blade]

Which is terrible, and battlefield should avoid it at all costs

[tepid bison]

Yes this is true. Games should be their own games

[plain maple]

it can be a bad but can be an ok thing

[hidden sand]

There's nothing wrong with liking either game, but they shouldn't try to be like each other if it's removing what made them what they are.

[plain maple]

it depends on how many people move to your game, like profit or somehting

[robust hare]

i think the only simular thing would be the slide from what i could gather from the beta...bf is not CoD

[frozen current]

this just turn into a bunch of teens talking shit?

[remote forum]

@frozen current only since you got here

[dusky blade]

No it’s not ok, don’t change the core mechanics of a game to be similar to another popular one

[tepid bison]

Bf isnt cod but feels like if tencent was the priest at a wedding between mw2019 and bf4

[frozen current]

wait until launch guys

[dim pumice]

the reality is that many players are looking for games with faster movement, I think bf2042 movement will be pretty good once DICE has balanced it based on feedback from beta

[dusky blade]

It changes what the game is and simply brings it in line with “those games”

[frozen current]

BETA is a version thats at least a full development cycle behind

[tepid bison]

But now they blatant copy each ither

[plain maple]

yea movement has to be quick particularly on the scale of this map

[robust hare]

i actually liked the movement of 2042

[hidden sand]

Yes, but as I've said already, if doing so takes away from what made your game what it is, there's a big problem. BF needs to be BF, COD needs to be COD.

[tepid bison]

Well was ok but was downgrade to bfv

[frozen current]

2042 beta was awesome, the changes are welcome, its a live service game so it will adjust a bit

[plain maple]

i really liked the movement on 2042, but they need to nerf tac sprint, make a timer on it

[timid cosmos]

the nwhat happens when u have a smaller scale map

[tepid bison]

Not fan of tac sprint only really. No need for normal sprint now whatsoever

[plain maple]

i suppose that is true

[dusky blade]

Imagine if every game was MW19 but the maps sizes were different. Is that fun? What if you want a different shooter experience? That’s what’s happening now

To an extent

[frozen current]

we can still play V, I, 4

[remote forum]

@plain maple nah I like the unlimited sprint, there is a lot of ground to cover if you are on foot

[frozen current]

or the 30000 cod games

[tepid bison]

We can only play older games for so long man

[plain maple]

but it just removes the point of sprinting and i dont think in real life u can move that fast forever

[remote forum]

Its a game bro

[dim pumice]

I can't think of one successful game from recent times that hasn't used ideas from other games

[tepid bison]

No point to normal sprint in 2042

[plain maple]

but like there is still realism involved

[frozen current]

Call Of Duty: Battlefield 1-5 Legendary Edition Redux Directors Cut MOBA Battle Royal 3000 Simulator

[tepid bison]

@plain maple no

[hidden sand]

I don't think what BF2042 is doing is what BF has always done. The changes they've made have 100% made it lose some of its identity as a Battlefield game.
These are just my opinions, they're not changing until they make changes. And if they don't, then oh well.

[remote forum]

2042 everyone has 10/10 cardio, you didn't know?

[plain maple]

yes there is

[tepid bison]

2042 has serious issues and I vote with my wallet you should too

[daring sentinel]

I swear to god every game since Bad Company 2 has people saying this doesn't feel like "battlefield" I don't think anyone even knows what that statement means anymore

[dim pumice]

i vote that i want to buy it

[remote kiln]

unpopular opinion but mw2019 > bfbdc2

[frigid heart]

if 2042 brings only portals gameplay i might as well stay at bf4 lmao

[tepid bison]

@plain maple where is realism

[hidden sand]

Okay, then good for you.

[frozen current]

Bad Cmopany was all about the dialogue

[tepid bison]

Feels lighthearted and bright like apex

[robust hare]

bf at its core is a squad based all out war...i think it is still unique

[remote kiln]

spam grenades.. and.. that's it

[frozen current]

how is it not battlefield?

[tepid bison]

It has

[dim pumice]

worst opinion I've seen today

[frozen current]

2042 is bf4 updated

[hidden sand]

I've gave plenty of examples as to what I think is making it lose it's identity since the Beta opened up, but I'm kinda tired of talking about it at this point lol.

[tepid bison]

Discord bruh moment

[timid cosmos]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q07x1cPY5Q8

[plain maple]

all im gonna say and sorry for saying it in this server, is that cod will always beat battlefield even if the fans want battlefield to win, so i really think the same will happen this year. no matter how shit the cod game is battlefield always seems to lose no matter how good the game was.

[remote kiln]

really? Tetris > bfbdc2

[frozen current]

BETA is a taste test. The end game will be a big chunk different. and wahts the big change ur upset about

[robust hare]

br's are boring imo

[dusky blade]

A lot of people here defend the game 24/7, pretty tiring, even when the criticism is completely fair

[soft blade]

d\

[tepid bison]

It does not feel like a bf game for many many reasons, and the beta excuse does not work because beta only means bug fixes by launch

[frozen current]

what is it that people didnt like

[hidden sand]

Seriously, it's deadass not worth discussing anything here

[dim pumice]

shut

[soft blade]

so why do people hate 2042 im so confused

[lone wren]

as i explained a while ago that every battlefield will be different every few years why cant you guys really see the bigger picture and just try and enjoy something different instead of going crazy saying ohh its not like bf4 burn it

[plain maple]

how come the most popular games are brs. Like fortnite is the most popular game of all time and its a br. Warzone was the most popular game of 2020, so thats ur opinion i gues

[dim pumice]

mad kids dont like change

[dusky blade]

I’m seeing the bigger picture, and the picture shows 2042 being a different colour to the other games

[frozen current]

what is even the change?

[plain maple]

yea same people shit on new games all the time

[soft blade]

well boo hoo for them, why do they even want the game to be the same. it'll juts become a vanguard

[daring sentinel]

from what I understand now its everything is too different too changed, they want BFV reskinned with modern guns, I can't keep up personally

[frozen current]

how is it like COD?

[tepid bison]

@frozen current specialists, lack of balance, downgraded movement, class recognition, team recognition, gunplay, vehicle movement, air vehicle movement, sound design and I could go on

[soft blade]

not saying cod is bad, but cod's games are basically the same

[plain maple]

its nothing similar which is funny to me

[hidden sand]

I've gave plenty of examples and comparisons. If you can only reduce that to me whining, then I don't know what to tell you.

[dusky blade]

They have not been answered. Loudouts haven’t been answered, movement hasn’t been answered, specialists haven’t been answered, destruction hasn’t been answered, etc

[lone wren]

it was only a beta nothing is fully implemented

[soft blade]

repetitive is what im saying

[desert elbow]

Gunplay is nothing like cod

[frozen current]

downgraded movement? you run faster now. specialists so what, u still choose a kit

[dusky blade]

Because Increased speed = better?

[frozen current]

air vehicle movement, its friggen 20 years from now

[plain maple]

if people say that the game is shit i just say just dont play it then

[tepid bison]

I wasn't talking about how 2042 was similar to cod I was responding to an older question @desert elbow

[frigid heart]

someone here said its newer bf4? it looks like a downgrade so far

[frozen current]

its the same physics engine, everything is virtually the same

[soft blade]

just ignore those idiots who juts hate how its not like bf4 then, games change so what. its not a vanguard game being repetitive.

[dusky blade]

We are saying this because we want it to be good and are suggesting changes to do that

[tepid bison]

@plain maple I intend to do so

[hidden sand]

Tell me you haven't played BF4 without telling me you haven't played BF4

[remote kiln]

battlefield bow simulator 2042

[random yacht]

Guys you should know better than to come into an echo chamber and have a differing opinion. Not liking the game is valid, but looking for justification from strangers in a strong echo chamber is insanity.

[frozen current]

and sound designi? what are u talking about, that doesnt mean anything. thats like saying, the voice acting sucked, ok, its BETAAAAAA u turds

[dusky blade]

The voice acting won’t change lmao

[desert elbow]

Voice acting was fine

[tepid bison]

People here either suck off EA and jerk of to microtransactions bs or rag on the game without explanation to problems.lets discuss

[plain maple]

air vehicles in this game is dumb thats like one of the big downsides of this game, but overall its good. To improve they need to overhaul the entire vehicle controls, make it like COD (get mad i dont car helos in cod are way better)

[lone wren]

for the last time the videos you see all over the place were beta nothing was complete so stop saying its a downgrade because your point is not crystal

[timid cosmos]

issue was sound was it was so muted, even at the hot spots it was pretty quiet

[frozen current]

guys it was literally a demo version from almost 6 months ago. Its like the stupid Sonic character then change. The gameplay will be almost the same but 20x tighter and cleaner

[hidden sand]

This chat is 100x better when both parties can accept criticism without reducing the other to "Whining" or "Shilling"
Currently it's the former

[tepid bison]

Omg it's a few months back when development was supposedly from before BFV such difference

[plain maple]

yea in 6 months a dev company, the size of dice can do a lot. The devs will be running around like a factory in the last 6 months of release

[soft blade]

Its 3 months old, how about judge the game when its actually released. not by its beta as its not showing its full potential.

[hidden sand]

Beta is 2 months old. Gameplay mechanics are not changing. Only bug fixes, optimization, and balancing.

[tepid bison]

I am on trash side but I not hate on people who like it. I just think it isnt a good game

[lone wren]

i see its flaws i agree with you and i love it

[frozen current]

nothing wrong with the game, its hardly changed. its just a bunch of new content, in a new skin, some tweaked physics, thats it. Hopefully less dropbox crap

[tepid bison]

Yeah

[hidden sand]

In your opinion. Other people don't have to agree.

[tepid bison]

Beta only means bug fixes before launch, no overhauls to anything a month before release lol

[frozen current]

i had a blast, and it was laggy, a bit buggy, but whatever

[plain maple]

people complaining about the engine being shit. Its the best bf engine possible second to bf4 and 3s

[frozen current]

sure, but that doesn't mean I'm not right

[soft blade]

Honestly I experienced 0 bugs. crazy. or maybe I did, maybe im super blind.

[hidden sand]

I mean, you aren't right. It's just your opinion LOL.

[soft blade]

or maybe its because the bugs are so little, too little to care about.

[lone wren]

those toxic haters that are still here go back and play a game that yall enjoy

[frozen current]

well for me throwing grenade was laggy, and flying sometimes. But its 128 players and im on wifi

[plain maple]

if u dont like the game dont play it bruv

[dusky blade]

It seems like most people who defend the game like this don’t really care to dig into the game mechanics positives and flaws, very surface level impressions

[soft blade]

Im on wifi and im fine so idk. 65 hours of playtime was fine

[hidden sand]

Yeah I'm out this chat is garbage atm

[plain maple]

cancel ur preoreder do what u have to do

[dim pumice]

remember guys - if you don't like it, don't buy it

[tepid bison]

In the wise words of Patrick Soderlund, "if you don't like it, don't buy it"

[frozen current]

is it included with ea play

[soft blade]

Yeah it is

[plain maple]

yep

[tepid bison]

Beat me to the punch

[frozen current]

thats smart

[waxen umbra]

I liked BFV and I like what BF2042 is becoming, but he really shouldnt have said it like that lmao

[dim pumice]

still one of the funniest quotes lmao

[tepid bison]

I liked bfv and I'm not a fan of this mess but is my opinion

Bfv is my favorite in gameplay

[soft blade]

Actually, if you dont like 2042, instead of complaining, winging and having a temper tantrum about it, just shut up and dont buy it! its very simple

[frozen current]

the issue with bv5 was doing bf1 as well, its like AC origins and odysee

[timid cosmos]

yea people didn't buy it

[lone wren]

i still kept bfv because i love the game for its enjoyable atmosphere and gunplay

[tepid bison]

Don't plan on it

[frigid heart]

bf v biggest issue for me is that vehicles are unbalanced but its ok

[soft blade]

bfv's maps were pretty cool

[frozen current]

its like they wanted to test two slightly different versions -so they double drop, and then make the best of both next.

[timid cosmos]

i bought it when my friends wanted to try firestorm

[waxen umbra]

Suddenly everyone lightens up talking about the good parts of BFV lolol

[tepid bison]

Imagine BFV gameplay with bf4 maps and classes. Literally orgasm on the spot

[dim pumice]

yeah I thought it was supposed to be the worst game lmao

[tepid bison]

Lol people don't like bfv I guess

[frozen current]

on a side note guys, if anyone of you are going to play a lot, and want to do something semi-pro, let me know. I have a league started and this will be the perfect launch - send me a msg

[daring sentinel]

What I don't get about the hate, if you want all these things different and just like older games why not play Portal? its explicitly designed to be able to play the game exactly how you want it

[soft blade]

Campaign was ass in my opinion, the game was OKAY. in my opinion, map design was AWESOME.

[lone wren]

yeah understandable we did have our civil arguement and yeah its all good

[waxen umbra]

to be fair what you said sounds kind of neat but lol idk what people imagine it would be

[forest birch]

What’s is Hazard Zone?? Is like warzone?

[soft blade]

we'll find out in like 30 something hours

[timid cosmos]

bc2 was a great campaign

[dim pumice]

hunt showdown/tarkov supposedly

[unreal bone]

Guys what is worth to buy bf5 or bf4?

[soft blade]

CoD campaign is okay as well, bc2 was good campaign. so was bf3

[frozen current]

send me a msg if you want to join the league - if you lets you from here

[dim pumice]

bf4

[timid cosmos]

bf4 campaign was pretty cringy

[soft blade]

The emotional parts in the game failed to get me emotional. truly cringe

[frigid heart]

bfv is half dead, people play bf4 more

[tepid bison]

@arctic grove if the pistol and sniper rifle animations were the worst thing about bfv and bf4 then it's a better game than 2042 lmao

[soft turtle]

life is revealed
no more shields
the beta is over
theres no battlefield

[dim pumice]

yeah the campaign was pretty shit but the multiplayer is where it's at

[daring sentinel]

Not currently with all the sales BFV has far more players

[soft blade]

like 200 people still playing 2042

[soft turtle]

wait what, how

[frigid heart]

i find way more full lobbies in bf4

[soft blade]

If you leave PC on and dont leave game you keep playing

[tepid bison]

I don't understand what's not to like about bfv gameplay with bf4 skin over it. Imagine bf4 with gunplay, movement and systems of bfv

[dim pumice]

staring at the main menu

[waxen umbra]

BF5 is my advice. More modern gameplay stuff & movement

[cerulean folio]

nobody really knows other than it might be similar to escape from tarkov

[soft turtle]

oh kk

[daring sentinel]

I mean the servers are borked atm, but BFV has like 30k on steam alone this week

[desert elbow]

Nah they fixed that

[soft blade]

I was there for the last 500 people but my windows started auto update

[frigid heart]

most people didnt buy bf4 on steam so steamcharts is not accurate

[cerulean folio]

BF1

[soft turtle]

lol makes sense now

[lone wren]

i brought on steam because why not

[tepid bison]

Bf4 is dated

[soft blade]

oh? I guess i got windows udpate before it happen then

[weak umbra]

i tried playing bf5 on the clou is it the cloud or is there no people playing

[timid cosmos]

i bought on steam to make less hassle to run it on linux

[lone wren]

on bf4 the AUG A3 has def been my favorite bullpup rifle

[daring sentinel]

Same can be said about BFV because BFV was free with an origin key, but you can safely assume if BFV has more players on steam than 4 then it defnitely has more on origin

[waxen umbra]

There were plenty in April when I last played alot. Don't know if many still do now.

[dim pumice]

the ONLY good thing about bf5 is the pacific theatre

[soft blade]

273 people still playing tho?

[desert elbow]

Idk if it was just me but I was playing 2-3 hours after the official closure and suddenly I was just sent back to the menu and I got a message saying there was no connection

[weak umbra]

ok im downloading it now on my xbox ill see for myself

[daring sentinel]

Nah with it being free and cheap lately there is a huge influx of noobs

[soft blade]

I got to 2 days before I got disconnected

[dim pumice]

ok movement was alright but I feel like stirring up chat

[desert elbow]

Where does it say that?

[robust hare]

still nice getting a kill streak sniping tho...nothin like it

[soft blade]

https://steamdb.info/app/1638720/graphs/

[tepid bison]

@arctic grove well in 2042 the menu is literally see through and is super cluttered to the point I didnt notice that I had a health bar until 2 hours in the game, and the first guns in bf4, bf1, and bfv were awesome idk what you are talking about. The manu was trash tho I'll give you that but that isnt a very major thing

[daring sentinel]

Sure, but 4 is going to be worse, its full of tank veterans as far as a new player experience goes you are far better going with 5

[tepid bison]

The ui is garbage

[desert elbow]

Those are only people with the game open

[dim pumice]

they aren't in game though they're just on the menu

[soft blade]

Thats what I was meaning

[waxen umbra]

Panzerstorm conquest though. Or is it just me?

[lone wren]

i liked ops on bf1

[soft blade]

Still, I got to an extra 10 hours being in-game

[lone wren]

certain maps on bf1 for ops was purely one sided

[dim pumice]

like that one gallipoli map

[lone wren]

no that was fine

the main ops map was fort de vaux

yeah its very active

[tepid bison]

@arctic grove did you not read my last sentence? Also the best all rounder gun in bf1 was the mp18 trench which was the first gun you got as assualt lol. And not to mention the volksturmgewehr 1-3 in bfv as the starter gun being the best assualt gun in the game besides the stg 44. The starter guns were not shit by any means.

[dim pumice]

bf5 gunplay was pretty meh

[lone wren]

all starter guns in bf1 were powerful

Lewis gun a laser of itself

[tepid bison]

@lone wren excessair thinks all starter guns in bfv and bf1 were shit

[daring sentinel]

almost every battlefield game ever has really easy to use strong starter guns, CoD too for that matter

[tepid bison]

Yeah see? Not bad by any means

[daring sentinel]

BFV was fine, there just isn't any customization because there are no attachments you just have one shitty skill tree

[lone wren]

bf1 had a pretty solid smg in the assault class for the starters

the medic gun was a rifle which switched between semi and automatic

[daring sentinel]

Thats more to do with the progression system than the guns themselves, they play fine, as good as ever even, there just isn't any progression

[remote forum]

Sniping in bfv was sooo satisfying and crisp

[tepid bison]

@arctic grove you serious? Sturmgewehr1-5 wasn't good enough for you?that gun was the starter and was barely surpassed by the stg 44.

[daring sentinel]

jungle carbine is better than every single sniper rifle in bfv, and you can be a medic and self heal forever

[visual oasis]

What yall think hazard zone is gonna be like?

[tepid bison]

The starter guns in bfv were not shit at all

[lone wren]

i like sniping in bf1 even if excess hates the scope so close to ya face blocking ya view of ya surroundings

which i respect

[daring sentinel]

game has far more issues than gunplay, like the trees that bounce nades... and flags... and broken ass wall penetration, which is amazing because MW19 is so good and this is basically a carbon copy but WWii

[tepid bison]

Hell yeah it is

[lone wren]

The STEN for the medics in bfv was a solid SMG

[remote forum]

Medal of honor was peak ww2 game

[tepid bison]

@arctic grove simply because you didnt like them or did not do good did not mean that the game had a problem. The visibility was an issue but you not liking the game isnt the games fault

[lone wren]

Medal of honor i played on the original og xbox

[white geyser]

I set the alarm to let me know for another battlefield 2042 trailer for hazard zone.

[foggy crest]

never played that but world at war was at another level

[lone wren]

Medal of honor was a solid game for its time

[tepid bison]

Honestly best ww2 games I've seen are WaW and the battle stations series. Anyone played that?

[odd fox]

milsim btw

[tepid bison]

I like the "only in bf moments" not a big fam of the whole game being marketed to them tho. I want a good game first and a bf moment second

[white geyser]

Anyone can do that, to be dope as fuck

[tepid bison]

Bit of pandering

[lone wren]

when portal is avalaible i am gonna commit making a full on milsim where team work is only choice work as a team to get objectives

i played medal of honor european assault i think that was the name

[tepid bison]

I like ww2 games. Basically my dream ww2 game was if bf1 was a ww2 instead of a ww1 game.

Would be sick

Bf1 atmosphere and graphics, ww2 setting, bfv gameplay and movement. Set up for the best game of all time imo

And no cosmetics

[lone wren]

call of duty 2 that old classic game i did enjoy

[daring sentinel]

Problem with both BF1 and V is that DICE had a shitty progression system for both, since they had no attachments it was like they completely had no idea how to make playing the game rewarding

[tepid bison]

I hate microtransactions so much they dint belong in paid games

[soft blade]

I don’t think that’s copy paste

[white geyser]

I guess we gonna wait how many years if DICE can reboot BF1 to fix the previous one and add new contents that wasn't in the original

[soft blade]

Also my friend got a glitch in the beta where he can see all the selectable characters, non operators. Like a lot.

[pure spoke]

Play Hell let Loose. Im sure you won't be disappointed

[soft blade]

Oh? I saw some battlefield 3 guys in there so yeah that’ll make sense

[lone wren]

hell let loose is very fun but i get scared of it

[soft blade]

What did he even do

[lone wren]

i am a old school gamer myself who enjoyed the classic halo games

[soft blade]

I can agree

[lone wren]

i think i had a dream that i watched the trailer of hazard zone

[pure spoke]

Rising Sun was a good game. Very memorable opening mission

[stuck hollow]

Respect ❤️

[soft blade]

I need to play rising sun

[pure spoke]

I've played a lot of MoH and CoD back in the day. Memory is also fuzzy

[soft blade]

How much is it

[worthy zinc]

Do you think 2060 Super can handle wallpaper engine?

[pure spoke]

How much is it? I dunno, it's a PS2 game

[soft blade]

Wallpaper engine destroys pc when running games, I use 3090 and I do get performance issues still

[robust hare]

i got 2060 super and it handles everything bruv

[soft blade]

WHAT how

[pure spoke]

18 here.

[stuck hollow]

Lol really

[lone wren]

basically dont have wallpaper engine running when gaming

[pure spoke]

Never played any such game. I was big into history and stuff. If I still had my PS1 and it's games, I would try and look further at what I played, but no such luck

[worthy zinc]

Do you have wallpaper Engine?

[lone wren]

i have wallpaper engine

[proud glen]

Is beta over?

[lone wren]

yes

[summer inlet]

Think so

[stuck hollow]

Yup

[pure spoke]

Ended Sunday

[stuck hollow]

I miss playing 2042

[worthy zinc]

What graphic Card do you have

[proud glen]

:( rip beta

[lone wren]

2080 RTX

[stuck hollow]

Nice card

[worthy zinc]

I have the 2060 Super

[stuck hollow]

How it feels to play using 3070

[worthy zinc]

Do you think it’s Clash my PC if I download wallpaper engine

[proud glen]

i have 3060 rtx

[summer inlet]

Tbh i wish the vehicles were like in bf4 where they would spawn indipendently from other players or vehicles, dont like how theyre put on a small cap and in a category

[lone wren]

well there are settings that let you not run it in the background

[worthy zinc]

What do you mean by that?

[lone wren]

since you mentioned clash i assumed performance

[summer inlet]

C4 car still exists so am good

[worthy zinc]

Like I don’t want my game to crash : (

[summer inlet]

wrong msg

[lone wren]

then yeah if you feel concerned just try and find the setting for wallpaper engine not running in the background

[summer inlet]

Definetly titanfall 2

[lone wren]

plus wallpaper engine excitedly is coming to android

[worthy zinc]

So if I play games it won’t make me a FPS Drop?

[proud glen]

☣️

[remote forum]

@arctic grove Final Fantasy X, blitzball is still fun after all these years

[lone wren]

correct

[foggy crest]

black ops 1 and final fantasy 15

[worthy zinc]

Is wallpaper engine Worth it

[lone wren]

android phones like Samsung

[summer inlet]

Dont hate on android kings

[lone wren]

yes def is worth having cool backgrounds as long as you dont have the app running in the background it wont ruin ya games

what for you

[remote forum]

Nokia 3310 here

[summer inlet]

Samsung Galaxy j5 :skull:

[worthy zinc]

Dang you would have to show me a tutorial how do it

[late whale]

i play on a pregnancy test

[remote forum]

Dafuq

[summer inlet]

Cant run alot of modern mobile games on 30 fps

Cant run even Among Us

[iron blade]

OMFGFGGGGG AMORG GOOSE>!?!!?!?!?!?!? BESTER GAME EVER!!!11!! 😱 😱😱 😳 😳😳 SUSYS BALLS!!!1!! 😀😀😃😃🤓😎😎😎📮📮📮📮

im sorry man

[summer inlet]

You better be sorry

[iron blade]

lmfao

[late whale]

104.660501.78.81.15

[hidden wren]

I couldnt cringe any more than i already am at that message

[remote forum]

Honestly made me throw up a little in my mouth

[iron blade]

[iron blade]

Yeah i have a shitty sense of humor, sorry

[remote forum]

[proud glen]

☣️

[grizzled garnet]

Bruh

[proud glen]

boooooo ven

[iron blade]

Btw, since ur hacking me, can u tell me my address? I forgot

[grizzled garnet]

Oh hey, I know we couldn't Skype tonight

[late whale]

i forgor 💀

[proud glen]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[iron blade]

but thats alright

[grizzled garnet]

Goodnight girl, i see you tmr

[proud glen]

is he acc hacking you?

[vestal lichen]

💀

[iron blade]

Comically falls backwards, creating a loud thud from the low mic quality, and quite possibly breaks their neck

[remote forum]

He couldn't hack life so now he tries to hack strangers

[summer inlet]

But thats alrighte

[modern basin]

Bruh people who brag about hacking on the internet are just skids lol

[late whale]

im better then you

[summer inlet]

Sheesh my phone just loaded 800 messages

[modern basin]

hackerman

[remote forum]

@late whale in no timeline are you better than anyone here

[late whale]

im better then you

[modern basin]

Anyways, does anyone know if hazard zone will be free?

[late whale]

also had sex with your mother +ratio

[remote forum]

Lol child

[next onyx]

@late whale Refrain from making inappropriate comments like that thanks.

[modern basin]

I have a feeling that if it is then it will be a hackzone

[remote forum]

Your mom jokes are so 2001

[harsh furnace]

Yes it’s free

[summer inlet]

Dindt ask + ratio + dont care + no pfp + Unevolved + Im better

[modern basin]

Damn

[late whale]

you werent even born in 2001 unlike your succulent mother

[summer inlet]

Will it be a br?

[modern basin]

I hope it doesn’t turn into Warzone

[remote forum]

Lol

[proud glen]

if BF2042 anti cheat going to be good? or is gonna be like pubg all bots and hackers in a few months :(

[next onyx]

It'll probably be similar to br but not one

[timid cosmos]

havnt seen a cheat in pubg in ages

[harsh furnace]

Dice confirmed no br while a go in interviews , based on teaser it’s a squad based mode and on EA website it says it’s a never seen before mode in battlefield history . Some people are saying it’s like tarkov which might be true who knows

[summer inlet]

They took the movement from it, I like it but i wish they dindt put it in as it got rid of that "Realistic" feeling. Not that it was gonna have one since the specialists are a thing

[proud glen]

i really wanted to buy it but did not cause everyone says they are chaeters and bot

[modern basin]

Unfortunately cheaters just defeat anti cheat and it’s a never ending cycle of patch and then a new cheat comes out

[summer inlet]

I wish they kept the nameless soldier a thing

[timid cosmos]

wasn't that many just nature of BR that when there was one in game u would probably run into them

[late whale]

103.881203.72.7277.1;

[timid cosmos]

but been like a year since i last saw one myself

[modern basin]

oh shit nooooooo no heck me pls!1!1!1!1!1!1

[modern basin]

69.420.3828.8329484728929348.393847382939

[late whale]

whoa buddy slow down

[modern basin]

I have mixed feelings about Hazard zone and it’s not even fully revealed yet

[harsh furnace]

There will always be hackers

[modern basin]

Don’t call them hackers it just boosts their ego

I feel like the movement just doesn’t belong

[harsh furnace]

Movement will be fine since they are nerfing sliding

As long as I can crouch spam I’m good 🤣

[modern basin]

Meh

[granite pawn]

What do you guys think that hazerd zone will be like

[bleak thorn]

Apparently it's like a Tarkov, so I'm hoping pretty good

But I have no idea how that's actually gonna work so

[limber garden]

This month is fucking slow

[harsh furnace]

One more month till launch pog

[next tree]

Nah 29 days

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Release (Gold/Ultimate)
Releases <t:1636700400:R>

[arctic grove]

30 days > 1 month

[dim pumice]

0 months till launch

[ornate prairie]

🐗

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Release
Releases <t:1637305200:R>

[harsh furnace]

Haha jokes on you I am getting it on 12

[rancid lance]

If u preordered this u get early access, when is that?

[harsh furnace]

Gold and ultimate editions you will get one week earlier access that’s nov 12

Not on standard edition

[rancid lance]

Ah ty, great to know

[sullen flame]

Ohhh yeaaa babbyyyy

[lone wren]

i get to enjoy a week early

[sullen flame]

The best game evaaaa

[teal shard]

I hope 2042 has frontlines

[sullen flame]

GOTY Battlefield 2042

[patent spade]

Kinda Hope that Bf 2042 got search and destroy :D

[timid cosmos]

u mean rush

[gray fjord]

That’s what I’m hoping Hazard Zone will be like.

[patent spade]

Nah 6vs6

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Hazard Zone Trailer
Premieres <t:1634223600:R>

Battlefield 2042 | Release (Gold/Ultimate)
Releases <t:1636700400:R>

[torpid shuttle]

Not gonna lie. Minecraft is the best fps game.

[next tree]

No thats cods thing

[torpid shuttle]

No CoD

[patent spade]

Just would be cool

[next tree]

Rush however is search and destroy but bigger

[sullen flame]

We need jet packs

[next tree]

no

[sullen flame]

Wall running as well

[flat grail]

absolutely not

[sullen flame]

Heartbeat sensor

[flat grail]

isn't mackay's grapple hook enough lmao

[next tree]

Why would you need a heartbeat sensor

[solemn latch]

Ngl I am probably just going to buy bf2042 just for portal so I can play an actual bf game

[sullen flame]

Thermal Scopes

[flat grail]

wtf it literally popped up on my keyboard

[next tree]

Ok thermal scopes make sense

[sullen flame]

Exoskeletons would be cool too

[next tree]

no

[sullen flame]

It is cool, new age of battlefield

[solemn latch]

That ww3 game looks more like bf than this game lmao

[next tree]

I mean they are coming into actual military service but no

[timid cosmos]

for like loading cargo was the appilication

[signal basin]

Someone has been playing a lot of Advanced Warfare and Titan fall.

[sullen flame]

We need double jumps, attack dogs that goes after you really fast like CoD Ghosts

[next tree]

Yeah only for soldiers to carry more stuff

[sullen flame]

We need perks like in CoD as well

[next tree]

Its 2042....

[sullen flame]

Like Sleight of Hand, Stopping Power

[glossy storm]

I'm sure a lot of people saw the Alpha leaks.

[next tree]

Perks are not a thing that woild work in bf

[sullen flame]

KillStreaks would be cool too

[signal basin]

Okay this is bait lmao

[dusky blade]

Also reduce the map size

[glossy storm]

It was pretty evident that we were going to have fast movement. IDK why people are so surprised now.

[sullen flame]

Yeah reduce map size make it 6vs6 or 8vs8

[next tree]

you are the killstreak well nukes yeah i agree with like rocket barrages on positions that makes sence

[sullen flame]

Faster sprint, reduce TTK

[dusky blade]

Also revamp the attachment system and add prestiging

[signal basin]

Just play COD.

[next tree]

Then its not battlefield

[sullen flame]

Still has vehicles...

[next tree]

Presteiging is the game sorta

[next tree]

Why the hell would you need vehicles for 6v6 or 8v8

[sullen flame]

It's cool

Like AC-130

[next tree]

An ac130 isnt effective for a small map

[dim pumice]

are killstreaks in?

[sullen flame]

Then I guess 30 killstreak nuke that wipes all enemies?

[signal basin]

[next tree]

no

[next tree]

Nah more like bf5s smoke barrages etc

[signal basin]

Just go play COD if you want all that.

[normal marten]