#battlefield-2042
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Breakthrough can be fun and frustrating af, that's why i prefere conquest, flank, encircle, destroy
Operations was fun as hell but it took too long sometimes
Grand Ops
Yea
Cape Helles when
titan best mode
I prefer conquest when I’m with a squad of friends, but when I’m playing with randoms they’re usually idiots so I play on breakthrough since there’s only 1-3 objectives lol
Carrier Assault
DICE said that you can create a free server for 24 hours if no one joins it, and also said that all matches would be filled with bots, so, if someone joins you kick them. The offline part, I wouldn’t hope for it too much…
Titan mode was the GOAT
Carrier Assault with 128 players
I like playing conquest cuz on some occasions there's like a squad of level 500 or 400 guys and i just join them. Then the whole squad has 1-2 deaths and like 40 kills each xD
thanks bro )
I loved running out of the titan side by side with enemy players trying to escape the explosions
128 players is the best thing dice has done
just wait for 256 players
Apart from battlefront and battlefield
20 years from now battlefield will basically be planet side 1000 v 1000
In 2023 prob
CoD will be but a distant memory
Arma 3 with objectives
256vs256 u mean 😎
512v512
Metro
no it will be doing just fine
7.8 thousand million vs 7.8 thousand million
you sick man-
isnt a thousand millions 1billion
Friendly fire on
12 people is enough for metro!
HUD off with identical specialists on both sides

And usas 12 spawns randomly
HUD off is pretty fun
pulls out 1000 rnd HE box mag and mows down all 511 teammates
With explosive slugs
And thermic scope
anime skins
And mounted granade launchers
press x to use
mounted? nah fuck that i have a fully automstic rotary grenade launcher
Bruh I pulled an all nighter last night editing a video, took a nap at 2pm and woke up at 11pm, now it’s 3:30 and I have work in 6 hours but I can’t fall back asleep lol
And a ka520 with gunner at flag A1
Naaaaah fuck that, i have a fully automated sturmtiger
With rotatory turret
Spind
anyone know gold edition outfits are for which specialists ?
And leopard 2a7 chassis
they literally say in the description who they're for
We officially know only 5 specialists, 7 if you count espinoza and sundance
oh ...
arst thou blind?
I love the Leopard 2 I wish dice implements it, I loved bfv tank combat, one of the best things in the game
I’m waiting for the anime specialist she cute
Shakespeare in the house
the what specialist
Panzer 38t best tank in the game. You can't tell mw otherwise 😩
guys can someone answer me if ea playtesting is available to anyone or a select few?
Some asian women specialist I forgot what country
She’s Korean lmao
The fucking person who invented poetry is in the house
Ah okay 😍
“Anime specialist” lmao that’s horrible
hey lads
Her execution will be a kpop dance
I mean she def getting anime skins
Only anime skin I need is a Boris school girl skin
If boris doesn’t get anime skin im refunding
cringe weeb
We get a Japanese operator and peoplell complain he/she will get anime skins
Mr orange did we thought the same?
Boris maid outfit petition
We’re in sync
hey mod, can you please help me with the playtesting question I asked above? ty
honestly, beta sucked.
why? no TUKTUK gameplay 0/10
Expected better...
Playtesting was 2 month ago and its invitation only
True where the rickshaws 🛺 at
no tuk tuk, 0/10, preorder cancelled, lawsuit in the works 
I don't mean about battlefield, in general playtesting
Invitation only
No TUKTUK no buy
he forgot to show the part where Lucapook played as a ranger lol
Maybe tuk tuk 🛺 will come with Sundance
soo anyone can sign up for playtesting but some only get the invites? thanks
Yes
i think tuktuk come in another map
cool cool
Tuktuk in far cry 4 was the best gameplay this decade
Basically yes, you sign up and they send you invitations for EA games, like Sims
yea I understand
im waiting for the sims 5
did you guys see the survey for b2042, I only saw some questions on reddit, very interesting
Im waiting for ps3 pro
papi
looks promising since dice is willing to change some parts of the core gameplay in order to appease the fans
Lol Sims havnt played in so long last time was on Facebook
you mean ps5 pro
✨Ps3 remastered✨
no no ps3 remastered
I think i said very clearly 3
We thought the same thingggg
Hopefully appeasing doesn’t end up ruining it
poggers
ps3 pro was never existed
day 3 of trying to get a reply from @ivory gulch
You dont get the joke


Pinging workers for no reasons will get you very banned, amigo
and he doesn't know how to structure a sentence
Did you maybe think it would be against the rules to ping EA/DICE or people not active in chat

"was never existed" 
oh is it actual
Double past tense, before past
Bruh
my bad my bad
i know im swiss my english is not so good haha
its chill lol, im just joking
im not sad
https://youtu.be/vxH7Pa21eBQ y'all wsnted classic classes, well here they are (in portal)
Somehow me on the PS5 can do more than the leakers themselves... Lol
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 | Introduction
0:12 | Ranger Class (GLITCHED)
1:20 | BF3 Assault Class
4:42 | BF3 Engineer Class
7:26 | BF3 Support Class
8:42 | BF3 Recon Class
This isn't a leak, it's a beta glitch
I would like to ask dice why tf they put portal things in a beta
Really well made imo
i think this is fake haha
It's not, it's real
Player just time travelled that’s all nothing to see here.
where is the wingsuit man??
LMAO
Man played 2 games at the same time
hi gav
Warped the timeline lmao
They got into the BF3 stuff in the last 2 hours so they couldn't get much gameplay but what they did get is real.
i cant rly watch the vid rn, but someone briefly explain what its about
someone using the BF3 soldiers and weapons + gadgets during the beta
Gav we are all proud of you and your team thank you for working hard ❤️
oh geeez
sheesh
At least all that the game would allow him to, so not all weapons
I mean... The guy have soon been on Frostbite for 12 hours. How can we not be proud of this hard working soul
Bf3 soldiers well done man
Now everyone can shut up about legacy classes and go play portal
No
yes
Battlefield is dead and these new devs have killed it
Then why u in the discord u troll
ok stuck in the past boomer
The fact that BF2042 went from "well ahead of schedule" and "earliest ever alpha ever" to stating the Beta build is a few months old to set the perfect defense against any criticism before the beta went live is not only embarrassing for the franchise, but to the gaming industry.
all his recent messages have been exactly the same as this
It seems Dice lied about how old the beta build was. I wish I could say I'm surprised.
Please, people like Braddock have been at EA since before most of us was born
And what's your proof?
bf4 beta wants to have a chat
And bf1's
and launch
When does 2042 get released for pre order players
12
November 12
Battlefield 2042 | Release (Gold/Ultimate)
Releases <t:1636700400:R>
Dude they need to make Mackay's lifeless face an emoji in this server
Might be worth adding in the ammo, health packs and defibs from BF3 into 2042 as I think that would please a lot of people instead of what was in the beta
I like how these trolls never get a comeback, thry just type "dice lied" and "gaem ruined" anc then silence
https://gamingintel.com/battlefield-2042s-troubled-development-and-identity-crisis/
It seems pretty credible, but obviously always take such things with a nice side of salt and French fries.
Just play portal
morning everyone
we need more people like u bro ❤️
I mean that's not an excuse for having shitty defibs in base 2042. I think a lot of people would be happy to have normal defibs back in 2042 as well as Portal
Innovation while removing what made Battlefield, Battlefield (Classes, Teamplay, Factions) is not innovation. It's turning it into another game. That's just my opinion though.
I think the best choice is to refund my purchase of 2042 and get it in a month when its in the Cyberpunk/Fallout 76 Bargain bin of false promises.
I pre ordered and I’m proud
I wonder how great team plays will be at launch
Did you just assume my enjoyment level 
we had , dont like BFV dont buy it .. welll we saw how that ended 😄

If i were you i'd trust official sources more than an unofficial article
I've pre-ordered every Battlefield since Bad Company 2.
Cool
And fhe code in the build is months old, build itself was COMPILED in seotember
Yeah build is at least one month old
2-3
It was dated 20th September or something
That video of BF3 operators being playable via a bug in the Beta was interesting.
At this point BF5 is looking lot more fun than BF2042. The destruction, visuals and gameplay is a straight downgrade.
A few is vague, it's about 2-3 months, code is that old, but build was compiled on 20th of september
I have my issues with the game but the notion that a build being older as a ‘red flag’ makes zero sense to me
As if all bf betas aren't old af builds lmao
The fact it was in this state 2 months ago is extremely concerning to me. But we'll just have to see.
They patch up operators, the gunplay and the movement and I bet a lot more people would be willing to give the game a try.
Do people think they clock off the night before having just made the newest completely stable build and ship it the next day? That shit does take months to be ready for public demonstration
Rn i much prefere the bfV over this beta, but idk how the final build will look so im excited
Apparently
Yeah I really don't know what to think. I'm just going to wait and see what it's like at launch. I enjoyed the beta but still a bit worried for launch
Bf5 made me appreciate the little things here and there, not that I didnt before. But 2042 made me feel great actually being able to hit targets past 30 40 m
The people who downtalk anyone who has any form of faith to it will continue doing so even when its release so 
They need to remove operators, they are tryna copy MW and they failed to realize why people liked them in MW. Its because people like having a skin they connect with, not having a certain ability locked behind a character you don't like the appearance of to begin with.
Discord and subreddit are 261k people, out of millions of units the game will sell this is a very low percentage of the community so i wouldn'ttake opinions here very srsly
i did like that but i did feel dirty whenever i killed a sniper from really long range with the M5 AR
Mate whatchu think portal is for
me getting killed with the lewis gun from across the map
I think they'll tweak the specialists because they asked twice about it in the feedback section and it's probably one of the biggest complaints
Like in 2042 the best Specialist is the Grapple dude and I don't wanna play a male character because I don't enjoy customizing the opposite sex in video games. That's what is nice about Operators in CoD as its just a skin and you pick their abilities.

Look , BF42 Core Game is made for Call of duty Warzone and Apex Legends Players and Portal is made for Battlefield Players .
Oops I mistyped that, I mean that bf5 makes you feel great for hitting a target past 30 to 40 m 
That reminds me I gotta reply to that feedback email.
if they just seperate ability from skin it could solve so many issues in one go, but i doubt that they will 
That's more like it xD
Women moment
I dont get why you guys say there's less teamwork when there's the same or more. It's just that its optional to take ammo, healing, or repair tool now. And EVERYONE can revive.
Ye
2042's gunplay needs better adjustments
I’m so fucking happy
You answered your own question lol.
More recoil and less spread
you serious thats the dumbest thing i have heard since i was born
Just atuck in the past people imo, i've played since bf3 and specialists are such a breath of fresh air
No i didn't. Don't be dense.
Recoil control is pretty weird tbh, it feels kinda unrealistic of how smooth it is
Everyone cannot revive. You can only revive if you were Falack or only people in your squad if not Falack
Realism isn't my concern but the spread is more annoying
everyone can revive
Depends on platform
Console has less control than pc
that less spread is very dependent per gun tho, some guns are super laserbeam while others just arent at all
If you are Falack you can revive everyone if not only your squad
If they fix jet deployment Im happy, in beta there was sometimes locked and u could only pick attack heli and so on
Falck *
Its clearly a troll lets be honest here
you sense the sarcasm in that sentence from miles away
I'm pretty sure I revived people outside of my squad as a non falk.
It doesnt really, even though console can control it easily because of the initial multiplier (0.75 vertical), in the end it's still easy to control.
Glitch then since you shouldn't be able to
Must of been a bug but she is basically the medic but you can revive anyone in your squad similar to BF5
You can have a gun like the chauchat with the most violent recoil but as long as you control it your bullets will hit
There are no sacrifices forced onto the player anymore. You can use any gadget. Why would anyonr choose a medkit over a rocket launcher? Which in return enforces the lone wolf style way more than it ever did. Bf has always had those players, but this makes it infinitely worse.
gotcha
I love how portal bf3 looks, really looks like a bf3 remaster
BF 2042 definitely lost the touch previous games had. Especially in the immersion (Animations, details, art style) department for this game. I can't figure out why they intentionally downgraded the movement & environmental destruction system into what it is. Same with how basic animations are now. It just looks so, cheaply made. Basics (most of them) which should be present in all bf games are missing in BETA, I am not sure how much of magic we can expect in 5 weeks until launch
- auto lean
- crouch sprint
- rolling while jumping from a tall place
- medic distance meter
- zeroing in scopes
- laying on back while proning
- lock on direction indicator on air vehicles (so annoying in beta)
- squad deploy screen preview
- distance indicator when headshot from sniper
- grenade indicator
- being thrown away from large explosion like for rocket explosion
- chat (disabled)
- bigger map with M (disabled)
- working squad system
- weapon inspect
- squad order wheel thing
- a proper score board when pressed tab
- bipods (but they were bugged in playtest probs thats y)
- manual leaning option
- server browser
- grenade indicator
This you're not awarded for control
couldn't you just go assault in BF4 and not do any teamplay?
Bro who tf got the time to read your essays no one gives a shit
Controling guns is cringe, hipfiring the k30 for the win
Knock it off lemon
Wtf is this lol
I can't read that
Its a list on the good parts of 5 2042 doesn't have
Then don't
ik man but there are people like that man idk what to think anymore
Lemon you have posted paragraphs in here before so shh
Not as long as this
I miss combat rolling
Lul
As nauseating is it could be sometimes
deez
Just keep youe opinion, 261k people out of millions of units is the minority
I miss kill range
It's so fun flying planes underwater in bf5
Laying on back when prone I can understand why they would get rid of that but I don't get why they got rid of auto lean
I recommend simply observing the community while not caring very much fornopinions
We should get a server browser in full release and honestly I will be genuinely disappointed if they don't bring it back. Doesn't make sense not to but still.
Yep. But the fact classes didnt give you everything forced players to work as a team. Want ammo? You have to be a support. Want meds? You have to be a medic. All of that had teamplay be necessary.
Portal has it ao AOW should too
Goddamn its something you miss
ok my opinion is cod warzone best game ever made
Way way way...
i honestly think they should just go back to making certain gadgets class specific, why else even categorise the operators in meaningless classes
So?
We have METRO in Portal ?
I disagree that you think there's less teamwork when there's probably more. And giving players options is a good thing.
I just wish you could combat roll after getting ressed, the amount of times you get screwed over when slowly getting up after a res
What's up saiko, got your hazmat suit?
dont think so
Cause I've got mine on
Sure. You got yours?
Yee
I got mine
Also not being able to sort your classes in the main menu was a pain but I think they have said that will be in the final build
Server browser should have been in the damn beta ffs.
In final build
So should a lot of things tbh
Dunno why you're ignoring the point I just made there. It objectively lessens teamplay the way it is in 2042.
that is factually wrong, there is 100% less teamplay in BF2042 compared to previous games
Is the range shown on final build on kills?
Wrll issa beta, should be more of a taste
i need mine 24/7 3200 tickets 128 Player server no rules Metro braindead meatgrinder
Yeah true, I hope the beta doesn't continue the trend of disbanding lobbies
Its good staying in the same lobby

Cause if it's a close game you know you can try something different
Yeah I know it's a beta. I wasn't meaning more maps or guns I was meaning the basic components that's been in every other BF beta
not really a point for it to exist when only one combination of map and mode is available
This
Oh, well things change, this uild may have been compiled without that stuff in mind
Where is fanboy SIMP_GOD now? 
Liking the game =/= fanboying but ok
Yeah that's a good idea plus because it also made a different lobby half the time I would be put In a game that had already started
That is true but that being said, being able to join a 100/128 match (and looking at how many people are playing in the day) really helps.
Yeah which has me a bit worried if it's 2 months old as these things should kind of be in there already imo like previous games
I mean a beta should give u a feeling of how the game is, not the full game, they need to spare some for launch, If u dont agree, dont play beta u salty BETA ASS PLAYERS
I dunno, this was BRANCHED months ago
Yeah if it's a beta then sure don't expect super quality
All they did was fix game breaking bugs and make it playable, so
But this beta was rougher than the other betas for battlefield and the devs have given me hope for launch.
i honestly dont see a world where we won't have server browser on release tho, i'm sure it was just left out for the beta
This was to avoid stopping development on launch build, sacrifices need to be made
Yeah hopefully alfo
Yeah we will just see at launch. If it's still missing core features at launch though I'll be a bit disappointed
Idk bout u but i'd rather release a buggy beta than a buggy launch
They need to buff the hell out of the hybrid sight though, thing is worthless.
The fact the game was in this state two months ago is just really concerning to me. 3 years, and 4 studios, and this is the quality? Just pretty concerning.
Some devs here have "playing Frostbite for 12 hours" so they working real hard on launch build
Could just be a custom status you know
And it also couldn't be
Cuz they dont tell u, its much older than a couple months
lemon, we all know the launch will be buggy as fuck, all battlefield launches are buggy as fuck
exactly thats how it works ! the beta should be bugged if its perfect beta then why they would release it rather than waiting for the launch date ? cuz they are collecting all feedbacks from players about bugs to make sure the launch is not messy like cyberpunk 2077 as an example so i would consider this as a great move
If it was the others would have it up.
If it is it's prob to show how much they working anyways
MW 22 will be built on next gen engine, lets see how BF 2042 competes then?
They said two months. That's what it is then.
Bf5 was pretty stable at launch to be honest
Well said
No
BF1 was probably the most stable from my experience
great optimization which is amazing
lol
It could also be 3 months man, a month makes all the difference, they said a "few"
BC2 was okay as well
COPE
All BF versions are well optimized
A few can also be 5
If the devs they can prove they can make a stable enough launch then cool.
lemon is really on a lifeline of copium at this point 
For this game
Lemon is getting paid by EA
Hey it's gav
i wish they read my words, but a big thanks should be said to devs for creating such an amazing game
I have Frostbite open a lot. Sometimes my hours do go on for an extended period. But yeah.
Ahhhhh
Idc whatchu think i'm on lmao
There's never been a game that has had a terrible Beta and launched in a state that was a complete reversal of what was offered in their Beta/Playtest. Keep that in mind everyone.
Currently MW2019 looks a lot better visually than 2042 to me. Was kinda surprised at how rough the lighting was in a lot of areas.
copium, look it up 
AHA damn u work hard tho
Fix your damn game
are u related to bf 2042 project ?
I can comfirm he is SIMP GOD, changed his profile picture 
They are fixing it and have by launch to prove it
That set a standard....
But still.
Your worthless attempts at atirrong an argument with me is just kek
Yeah
Wait till launch for the devs to prove themselves, that's all I can say. I have some hope for them
i would like to thank you and thank everyone that worked for such an amazing game ❤️
I got no doubt i'll love the game at launch, idc what others think
As once a man of culture said "Don't Like It Don't Buy it"
tbh, the game could launch in the beta state and i would still play the fuck out of it
3 years, 4 studios. If they cannot pull off a BF1 launch, then I'm convinced they never will again. We'll just have to see.
classic quote lmao
Same rly
I wont thank u or anything before the release, But i am supporting with cash atleast haha
Tbh it has made my life so easy
Hello everyone, I hope you all have a nice day. 
Just remember that past bf's were hated by community pre launch aswell
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
We all know, people are loving bf5 now
I remember when bf3 was called a cod clone lmao
🇨🇳
Nah I still hate BFV
And BF1 iirc people didnt hate on and people praised a lot.
That line is dumb
Bf2 players apparently disliked it pre launch
I will start playing this game when the life service for this would end
I've always loved BFV. Best movement and gameplay imo.
What about bf3
Bf5 was actually fun despite the crap with it
Wasnt it tho? I remember getting a Nuke n game ended
._.
I just dislike the map design
Also hackers
BFV LOBBIES ALWAYS HAVE A HACKER
It's still very fun for me
Almost all the maps for bf5 were great
Ah, I play on console lol. That's a huge shame though.
The only ones that suck are al sundan and panzerstorm
wtf no they werent 
You had maps literally made for spawn killing the other team
Subjective, although i won't deny gunplay was sick and i love 2042 has the same aomewhat
I have 500hs In bf5 and I can safely say that it has one of the smoothest mechanics I have seen in a bf game
I don't know about that one. I think the BF5 maps are the worst hated by the BF community
Sed EA didn't give a shit about it
I don't get why people dont like panzerstorm 😔
The bf3 classes gameplay in the 2042 beta man, it looks like a bf3 remaster FINALLY I CAN HIT MY SHOTS
And when not ina vehicle the map is a mess
I got 12000 hours bf4 But never used a gun xd
that's depressing
al sundan breakthrough
, truly a miserable time.
planes and tanks were really fun in v
I dont care about the recoil part but I'd rather have more recoil than spread.
Same, it all runs smoothly and feels pretty comfortable lets say, adding to that i play on console so ive never expirienced hackers which brings a better POV from my side
Jesus, such extreme fanboysim
They didn't feel like proper BF maps, more like infantry focused apart from a few and I remember when BF5 added Al Sundan a lot of people felt like that was the first true BF map to be added
I love it because its a vehicle map, always able to play as a tank and that makes it really enjoyable, but yeah for infantry its a bit rough.
I don't see spread in 2042, if there is, very well balanced i'd say
At that point I just grab a mustang and strafe infantry
Al sundan is hands down the worst BFV map imo.
I mag dumped my m5 into the wall 8 times at different ranges, it is there.
I think Hamada is the worst for me

Yeah I mean it definitely has its similarities. I'd imagine many of the people who are calling 2042 a cod clone look back at bf3 as peak battlefield, I guess people just don't like change.
Now that i think about it i could agree
Ironically Al sundan has the best frontlines layout
I am sure you are trying to damage control here
Its just the aircraft hanger
Nah it's fun when youre a brit in a mosquito
Infantry only
But Maps without jets r bad imo
Yeah, we Needed mechanics and destruction like bf5 and setting like bf4
cough siege of shanghai
BF1 maps compared to BF5 was like night and day
Siege of Shanghai with jets...
I wonder if that isnt such a bad idea
Keep telling yourself that
Tha would be an awsome combo to be honest
BF1 being the better
Change isn't always good. This is objectively different from the battlefield formula. Teamplay is gone, Factions exist in name only, classes are gone.
It's not a good innovation if what made the series what it is, isn't present.
it would deal with attack helis
I've already established i'm merely observing the community now, idc what anyone thinks anymore
Just TV missile them with the other one
Sos is a bad map imo
Argonne forest, amiens, St quentin and ballroom blitz were the only vanilla maps I remember
bf2042 is trash
ANY ASKERS 
So your lil "keep coping/fanboying" stuff doesn't phase me
And so are u;)
Yeah the whole community was begging for it instead we got a game which is more focused on cosmetics. It's a cruel world we live in
Oh man those were some fun times on them
Ok.
no seriously it has lost its identity as a battlefield game and has become a cod clone
And it feels like a mix of warzone, apex, titanfall and battlefield
CoD - If it aint broke, don't fix it
BF - If it aint fixed, break it
im disappointed
there are definitely downgrades in 2042 (teamplay is a step back but hopefully full release deals with that), other things like gunplay and movement are improved for the most part
nd ur delusional and we dont care move on and suck my dick
of course it is like bf3 i suppose
I really don't care
yall dont know what makes battlefield battlefield
battles in fields
I spent a lot of time on bf1 but considering I spent even more on bf5 because I enjoyed those infantry maps it kept me going longer
Ur the most beta male i ever seen
No see that's where i care, you can have your opinion but don't you dare try and say someone else's is different than it is
Yeah
im just saying to me at least 2042 doesnt have that battlefield identity compared to bfv, bf1 and the past modern bfs
fps game with vehicles
and specialists are garbage
interesting chat
Yeah, to YOU, but you said WE don't know what makes bf bf, you can't say that
U still havent tried the full release, so stfu
Boris being the rook
ive read an article where it said they were persuaded to make it similar to mw19, idk how true that is tho
It's like they all had a foursome XD
Don't try and tell others what they think man
Movement has objectively been downgraded though. You can't roll, supine prone, crouch sprint, lean or auto lean. The animations have been severely downgraded as well, and are practically nonexistent. (If you think I'm wrong, look at any BF games movement animations from 3 to V. You'll see exactly what I mean.)
stop acting like dice will change the core design of the game LOL
LMAOO HAHAHAHAA
they will fix a couple of bugs and thats it, this open beta is a demo
Oh yeah
they are getting creative
But it couldn't be more accurate
No thats wrong
Whatevsr man
stay delusional then
they wont change the core design and gameplay of the game, its finalized by now
You really don't contribute anythinf by calling others delusional for not sharing your opinion, you're just trying to piss the poor guy off
Ur the only delusional pepega here
thats what is concerning
I dont mind the core play but it needs some tuning
You can in portal
I love the core play, to each their own though
sure they fix some bugs and improve performance by launch but specialists, gunplay and the maps are here to stay

Certain abilities needs a fix, movement needs a tune, gunplay needs a tune, etc
the movement is horrid and feels like a response to cod
Tank turret speed increase would be nice too
yea the core play not bad, its kinda similar to some other games but its still promising
Ahahahaha that's what portal's for babyyyyy
Trying to piss me off, no Im having fun, or just Kinda bored at work hahah
at least they got portal which is a win i still got high hopes for that
Your secondary mode should be the fix to the shortcomings of your main game
Uhhhh that's what portal is
Portal is cool on paper and I'll certainly give it a crack. But that shit is limited.
2 bf3 maps in comparison to 7 2042 maps?
portal is essentially a massive sandbox with stuff from past bf games which is very promising
Limited how? Editing rules and logic makes everything goes except map editing and asset swapping
EA admitted they'll 100% steal your ideas if they want to btw. That made me chuckle quite a bit.
hope they dont mess that up
2 bf3, 2 bc2 and 2 bf1942
And maps are added post launch
I'd be proud if they stole my ww2 zombies idea
And thats true, 2 maps from 3 games but still a vastly different experience.
back prone was removed because of visibility issues I think, and I never liked crouch sprinting. Rolling was cool and auto lean was pretty nice so hopefully they bring those back. Animations do definitely need some polish but I think they'll be better by launch.
Can't wait for the 24/7 bf3 server with only 2 maps in the same rotation. Sounds cool on paper but would get stale.
And more post launch! If locker releases post launch im making a spin off zombies chapter on locker
When dice will talk about hazard zone ?
Who knows
I'm sure there will be servers with the 6 portal maps on rotation
im calling it they will monetize 2042 to death
It's funny that they couldnt include 1 more map in beta cause they know it's broken af
That's called business
embarassing that they ship an old build in an open beta where they are supposed to bring in feedback
Increased recoil, reduced spread and increased velocities, make shooting people in your base gun actually fun.
Ofc they will
Not really, you see 24/7 Arica on bc2 all the time
I mean some people only played noshahr canals
Classic EA and dice before launch
Perhaps they'll change that, but if not, you can do it in portal, cool innit?
So make the bullets faster?
im gonna play bfv for the time being its actually a good game tbh
i keep seeing people ask about hazard zone, but what actually is it?
No its for people to try it out not try the game close to fully relased
As far as I know dice has lied 5 times
its the battle royale of the game
I'm guessing you haven't seen locker only and siege of shanghai only servers full with 10 people in queue lmao
Problem about portal. Servers won't stay up forever cause cool community games which ironically, would just make community's inconsistent as hell. I would pay to have a server that can stay up 24/7.
It's not br
muzzle velocity especially on the sniper was terrible, it definitely needs to improve
nobody really knows but supposedly its kind of like hunt showdown/tarkov
?????? they shouldnt ship an old build in an open beta lmao its their only chance to get feedback before launch
it is isnt it
It's not, they have confirmed it is not
they have newer builds and they choose not to ship it
its for weapon balance mostly
They wouldnt care about the feedback anyway. So why Would they bother ?
And datamining shows it's a tarkov like gamemode not close to br at all
Yeah cronch you'd think after 5 they'd actually keep velocities decent.
they actually fixed a lot of annoyances and bugs
Back prone was only ever an issue because BFV as a whole has bad visibility. The mechanic itself did not cause bad visibility. Leaning was confirmed to not be in the game by a dev. Movememt is remaining the same and there will only be minor adjustments to animations.
I just don't understand the regression for what was nearly perfected in BFV. People liking it is fine, but I just can't help but be disappointed by how downgraded it is.
oh, i thought they would make a battle royale, fix their mistakes from firestorm
WhEn BeTa?
although at the same time i hope they dont make it too fast, or it'll just be piss easy to snipe
the ui doesnt even work properly on pc and mouse sensitivity is being emulated on the beta LMAOOOOOOOO
Over
this is embarassing for an open beta
5's bullet velocity was a bit ridiculous at times same with bf1. You'd shot someone across the street and it was like the bullet was going in slow motion
like people still ask this question when it legit ended 3 days ago
I'm mocking the people
Ui is old sens wasnt emulated for me
its all about making new mistakes
no the sens in 2042 is emulating an analog stick
Cyberpunk all over again fix your damn game scammers
TRUE facts
5's wasnt terrible tbh
true story btw
if you dont want to believe it because u preordered 2042 sure
bullet velocity and recoil both needed to be increased thats like improvement for gunplay in the game, overall it is good
Gunplay was good but sometimes it was a bit stupid and then bf1 had that RNG factor which was annoying. I kind of like how 2042 is more like BF4
slow bullets probably down the scale being weird
I didnt preorder Cuz i think the game will be good, But always buy deluxe to support
i though bf1 was faster than most other bf games?
yea slow bullet velocity, literally ruins the point of long range fights
support what? a multi billion dollar company? LOL
I bet they'll find a sweet spot for velocities.
where 100m seems like a real far way away for some reason
Nah ig was easily the slowest
BF1 had some RNG to where your bullets would go
if they make it between 800-1000 m/s then it should be good
So did BF4
rn its like 600 which is like nothing, the bullets fall out the air
by getting the deluxe edition you are only supporting ea's wallet
So u think they can use all their money ? They got a budget and its expsnding based on how much they make
they dont need your support, they are worth billions
bf2042 should bring back s w e e t s p o t
i can tell you are trying to justify your purchase of 2042 deluxe edition
If everyone was thinking like u, then they wouldnt
bf2042 should bring back lootboxes or as ea would say surprise mechanics
how else are you gonna play the game then?
Can you stop with the negativity? It's getting
HAhaha you think some stranger cares about your opinion
No, Cuz i didnt lose any money of buying deluxe
bring back battlepacks
is there anything known about the full game specs?
bring back crouch sprinting
Hahaha fr
no
yes
bfv did many things right
You’re supporting the company which drew your profile picture, it goes both ways
like install size or system requirements?
no it didnt. you know why?
it was a disaster at launch but actually i think its p good right now
u may as well support the company especially during this time of covid regardless of what u pay
Specificaties for gpu and processor etc
bf5 has wake island
bf4 does not have wake island
bf5 wins
i think the content of bfv is plenty
System
people dont realize that if this game flops it very well could be the end of bf
yet bf5 was far worse than bf4
There was a pol for wake island but everyone wanted the jungle map
and the maps are somewhat good for the most part
this negativity is overblown and could actually end the franchise. stop being such babies
no clue, you cant really trust the system requirements they have already given, I have a 3070ti and OC'd 3600X but it doesnt run for shit
Was in a match. I think BF2042 has more team work than the other previous games. It's jsut that people aren't choosing/using them. Casper has his drone that is IMMENSELY helpful, Falk can revive everyone apparently and can heal people with her dart gun. And there's still the ammo healing repair tool and radar balls.
^^
It took awhile to get things right and then they changed them and then had to change them again. However BF5 is one of if not the least favourite game in the series recently
true but wake island
bf2042 actually has like no teamwork compared to past bf
There's way more teamwork in this game, but people can opt out of it if they choose to due to how the gadgets work.
true, but i didnt really care about wake island, there were more good maps on bf 4
No, it factually has MORE teamwork. But people can opt out of it so its a bit decieving.
yes I have nvidia geforce gtx 1660 SUPER 6GB and it could handle the beta
in the couple hours i played bf2042
whats your CPU?
thats based on a beta with no communications yet, can't really tell until launch
Idk I got revived constantly- loads of people opting to run medic/ammo crates over more selfish gadgets
teamwork has no teamwork whatsoever, particularly in squads
i didnt get revived once
I5-10400F
bruh i just noticed that and same happened to me
we need the old class system
Ew.
That doesn’t mean anything, it depends on the players
and the fact that there are no factions and the classic class system is gone
BF2042 does not have more team work due to the simple fact there are no classes. They can however tweak the specialists to encourage more team work to make it similar to previous games
damn, should be fine but what performance were you getting?
Portal
i dont mind this specialist thing, they just need to make it work like the old class system somehow
its essentially battlefield: clone wars
Wrong. Classes are Specialists that have the ability to multiclass.
means everything, if u had the old class system ud have an idea and the others would also know their role
specialists dont belong in battlefield, its not a hero shooter
It is now. 
It doesn’t matter because consistent medic players would still play medic
You need to settle down - stop trying to gatekeep battlefield
There is nothing wrong with gatekeeping.
So how come in the 20 hours I played I only seen 1 ammo box on the ground and only got revived a handful of times while previous games people are throwing medic and ammo boxes left right and centre?
Well I think they do belong in battlefield and it still retained its battlefield feel while improving on a lot of things.
Lol ok St Peter
im not a battlefield hater btw contrary to what im saying, i have been playing bf since bf3
Dice lie counter : 6
- We are ahead of schedule
2.later this month
3.later this week
4.We are not controlled by EA
5.We like feedback(clearly not)
6.We are just polishing the edges conitunes to show broken build instead of present one
I did everything low settings in the beta then I just got 50-79 fps
and im genuinely concerned about 2042
I've been playing BF since 2. 🙂
im just saying the truth about bf2042, it sucks
Reviving is ASS in the beta. They need to fix that. And I've seen tons of ammo boxes but they can get blown up with frag grenades.
Exactly, i usually play medic in bf games but mostly because people who play medic aswell don't revive. That happenes a lot in bf 5 with some exceptions of expirienced players but in bf 2042 you don't get revived at all, so i try to be that at least one medic who revives
I think BF2042 is a pretty cool guy. 🙂
And again, people can opt out of "teamwork" if all you call teamwork is throwing a box of ammo and health.
Yeah well they need to tweak stuff to get the teamplay more on par with previous games
in bfv i give out bandages like candy and revive a ton of my teammates
There's concern, then there's mindless banging on the 'i don't like this change it' drum when many MANY people fucken loved it
Which, if we're being honest, isn't really teamwork.
I had everything on low settings, 1440p. My fps was between 70 and 85. Eventually locked it to 60 because fluctuating fps is more annoying than steady low fps
It really doesn’t
many people who are cod players love it yea
"Oh look, im throwing a box of healing/ammo on the ground, look at this massive teamwork i've contributed"
How about Casper takes his drone out spots people, then EMPS the tank so that our rocket bois can blow it up without it turning on us.
is that not teamwork?
You're so full of crap
ah okay, ea himself said that the full game specs will look different. And that my specs can only just handle it, especially my gpu is version higher than the 1050 ti
It's watered down lite teamwork.
He’s showing more can be accomplished
for saying the truth yeah
You’re really not though
im so full of crap for being honest about 2042 and pointing out its flaws
I hope so, sadly I find it hard to trust them to their word
is the acw-r gonna be in the game?
Utter child
did you install it on an SSD btw?
Meanwhile My 3060ti struggling to maintain 60fps in high
2042 has huge flaws, but they're fixable. The UI is crap. I can't tell who has a repair tool, ammo box, or healing box. The UI itself is cluttered.
the acw-r can smack my bum and id have no problem with it
whats your CPU?
Hdd and SSD is on my Windows
how do we know if it's good or not yet based on an unbalanced, unfinished beta build
huge flaws in 2042 are grounded in core design
R7 3700x 4.4
I’m pretty sure I saw a video where the beta glitched & someone used it while playing as a bf3 character
installing on SSD may just help
Specialists arent flaws. You just don't like them.,
Plenty of things need work - but pulling a BFV and needlessly hating on a game because your personal vision for the game doesn't match uo to exactly what your expect isn't constructive nor true
oh yeah lmaooo hahaha
Like every battlefield game, yet they are all good
damn, my 3600X and 3070ti could only get ~80 on 1440p
2042 doesnt play like a battlefield game though
it does to me
Does to me too
ah ok i'm not that good at.. at such things i'm too noob for that
i got 80 with my 1660ti and 3500 at lowest 1080p
we don't even have all of the specialists yet or a proper comms system
those are vital to what makes battlefield battlefield, maybe with that everything just works
It hurts because I bought it twice the msrp
Battlefield is always evolving, BC2 doesn’t play like battlefield but it’s one of the best
teach me your ways
look at least bfv at launch did play like a proper battlefield game with no specialists crap but had other flaws
Maybe more in final version
I don't know why people want the same thing over and over and over again. I'm all for trying something different as long as battlefield is battlefield still. And turning classes into specialists didn't remove that.
And each battlefield is unique and does its own thing - doesn't necessarily mean it's better
for me the 3070ti was 100 euros cheaper than a normal 3070
2042 hasn’t even launched so that statement doesn’t work
1st person executions, buff aircraft weapon damage, buff flares, add a small timer on the T / attachment menu. Remove some of the things on the hud and change the colors and fonts. Then your game will be perfect :)
Lol just stop now - everything you say makes it harder to take you seriously
I hope they will be able to fix soldiers breakdancing in 4 weeks
except the open beta is essentially a demo of the final release with unfixed bugs
I played medic a few times, a total of three
the class is broken because I could revive anyone
And if you want the same thing over and over again they literally made a mode for that
lol that almost made me laugh
You there sir are a lucky fellow
I bought the game on my pc
Rtx 2060
I5 9600k
Should i refund or it will work good?
was there actually a way to tell what firing mode your gun is in?
its true though, how many times in bf and cod history was the final release much different from the open beta?
Only while aiming in
BF5’s gunplay lmao
Wait til dice ends its live service XD
I'll say this, the open beta didn't quite show off their specialists in a way that is good. They used the most bland ones. Maria (without ranged revive) is bland and Boris is bland. Grappling hook guy is interesting but has a massive lack of innate teamwork.
where was it I could not find it for the life of me
a prayer to EA
Wt u mean lol
I mean that's the point of medic xD, but i hate people who play it just for the guns and don't revive anyone else that's just stupid
They needed to show off their other Specialists who do have teamwork, and there's 4 of them that are extremely grounded in team work they didnt even show.
720p generic looking specialists
for 1080p 60fps it should be fine
It replaced the customisation menu prompt at the bottom right whenever you aimed in
Bf1 so fun 🤩 just played
the specialists actually look generic af
60 only fuck
@desert elbow you can actually tell the firing mode by looking at your crosshairs
got an 144 fps screen?
Nah
At that time the state of the game will be buttery smooth
they have no soul
it actually doen't work, used the syringe gun on a downed ally and it didn\t anything
Sundance isn't really around teamwork either
Oh yeah true
u cant revive with the syringe gun
That’s not how it works
oh boy you're wrong there
oh
dont talk shit about webster mckay like that
My screen is 165 hz
Almost thought you were serious for a sec lol
U revive with defibrillator
You have to stand by them and hold a button (idk which one on pc) syringe just gives them health ._.
The final #battlefield-legacy-titles 2042 specialist preview is focused on Emma "Sundance" Rosier from France. Her trait is the "CW-2A Wingsuit" and her specialty are various "Smart Explosives":
Bomb Scatter Grenade
Shield Anti-Armor
High voltage sign EMP Field ("disrupts" enemies)
I don't think so
1440p 144hz here, I am in fact; completely fucced
that didn\t work either XD
look im not trying to say the characters in bfv are any better but at least they sound like they are in a proper war and in actual distress
Sure
Ah so she has more than just the wingsuit?
280 here and I'm completely ducked
held E for hours on a downed ally til they died and it still didn\t work
How u just hold E it shows the timer
yep, the EMP attack is nuts apparently
1080p I hope?
Must be a bug, worked perfectly fine for me on console
Worked fine for me on pc too
#battlefield-legacy-titles 2042 specialist Santiago "Dozer" Espinoza:
Firecracker BLAST RESISTANCE:
"Reduce explosive damage effects"
Shield SOB-8 Ballistic Shield:
"Deflects incoming small arms fire"
Ingame challenge: "Perform 7 kills in one life with Dozer's SOB-8 Ballistic Shield"
Yeah :\
I don't understand u xd
I like the ballastic shield because he can push ahead of his team and shield them.
time to order i9 11900K
Beta good
Bomb has been planted
Specialist Navin Rao uses a "Cyber Warfare Suit" and his "Trojan Network" trait allows him to spot enemies adjacent to his kills.
His hacking device is still a bit mysterious and just described as "Disables enemy hardware" in the #battlefield-legacy-titlesBeta files.
I will never be able to match my ingame fps to my monitor refresh rate because the game doesnt run for shit
Not really sure about him but he's possibly oozing with teamwork
I'm excited to play base game and I'm excited to play whatever "legacy mode" comes out of portal
Boring
I just wanna no scope someone while in a tornado
Aha
why doesnt it show -_-
maybe disables things like spawn beacons, boris's turret
(This guy is going to be Broke as hek) Info on specialist Constantin "Angel" Anghel in the #battlefield-legacy-titlesBeta files:
He can call-in a loadout crate to resupply other soldiers with ammo and armor. The supply bag might be an additional specialty. Angel can revive any soldier and his "patients" gain armor.
Story details:
one thing i hated during the 2042 beta was the floaty and janky movement
Bro screw the helis who shoot people just trying to look at the tornado from the assembly building
Damn he can revive too lol
""IBA Armor Plate" is a gadget you can equip with all classes in #battlefield-legacy-titles 2042. You spawn with 2 of them. Each plate grants you full amor (+20).
Once you've used both plates, you have to to fill up you stock. I guess this is where specialist Constantin Anghel comes into play."
it just doesnt match the fluidity and weighty movement of bf1 and bfv
Not sure why he said classes, i only copy pasted what was said.
This ain’t bf1 and BF 5 this is 2042 the future
why should the movement be stiff and janky just because its in the near future lmao
I skiped BF1 and BFV, I hate the world war settings.

thats such a dumb argument
Cause they heavy
in 2042 people will be less heavy due to vegan diets
Bom.dia
the movement feels like a downgrade its that simple
Meat lovers ? 🤣
The movement actually feels like Apex Legends.
when its supposed to be battlefield
Never played apex shit game hehe
The movement in BFV does feel a lot better.
what makes battlefield battlefield?
titan mode when
movement felt really good to me, like running on ice but with actual grip
a game with all out warfare thats unique from cod and apex?
uhhhhh........Apex Legends has the best most fluid movement in any FPS game I have ever played. Except Titanfall 2.
Hope there will be maps where Tsunamis will happen
not a bad thing in all honestly if you think apex movement is bad your wrong
I actually think 128 player titan mode will come with a season
a real battlefield player
Why are you so toxic?
The description of the first dlc map already sounds like it's building up to 2142 lore
how am i toxic?
?
A REAL battlefield player?
Pretty sure 90% of us are real Battlefield players tbh.
bf5 is a lot closer to cod than previous battlefield games
He’s not even talking to u
im just pointing out 2042s flaws and drawing comparisons to past bf games lol
Lol what makes someone a fake battlefield player
For me BF1 movement felt better than BF5 apart from BF5 having crouch sprint etc which was nice but apart from that BF5 felt more clunky again
that doesn't make it not toxic just because it wasn't directed at me.

That person didn’t find it toxic either
saying they like the games despite having never played them
apparently drawing comparisons to past bf games and saying its worse makes you toxic
like a newer game is always better no matter what
except this one apparently
Yes 2042 fun
So no one?
I’ve played tons of Battlefields and the movement is great in 2042, so hes* wrong about that logic
Feels like warzone
to me it just feels like a warzone clone
we played the beta so we played the game
Never played war zone or cod in 7 years
You haven’t played warzone have you?
even then warzone has pretty fluid movement
playing fake battlefield (battlefield 7 players)
So we are all real battlefield players? Pog
Games evolve and change. You might not liek that change. But you'll either be dragged kicking and screaming into the next age, or you'll find another game.
Yeah, I hope they polish it
you realize that warzone/modern warfare did tac sprint first yes?

Ah yes one part of the movement
requirements
play the games (dont have to play ALL of them)
like the games (dont have to like ALL of them)
Yes just how you will grow old but can’t change that unless we get some age pills in future
and the sliding feels floaty as hell and jarring
Oh no, games borrowing things from other games.
battlefield is obviously a doom clone because doom did fps first
My grandpa did it first
Battlefield is a clone of SkiFree change my mind
if there is one thing bfv did right its the smooth and fluid movement
doom is obviously a pong clone bc pong did gaming first
and the attention to detail
And sniping
2042 throws that out of the window and tries to take on a new identity
but the movement in 2042 is smooth
trying something new = BAD
sniping in 2042 felt good when you ocnsider the sniper rifle you first get is (Apparently) by far the worst one.
its janky and floaty
That's like the only thing it got right though
only an 8x scope? kill it with fire
The snipers in 2042 felt super weak.
actually the gunplay is pretty good
not all the attachments were there, not even close.
Dr disrespect praised the 2042 sniping 
Like his opinion means shit to me lol
yeah who cares about streamers
doc is just a streamer who isnt even that good at cod
yall excited for the game?
its a fucking j o k e
I actually like the slower bullet velocity
its just his persona
they fxied one of the sniping issues already, the weird issue where your mouse gets "stuck" trying to fire at a target after rechambering.
yup defs, i think they need a large boost unless they havent given the good ones yet and just weak 1s
I mean hes pretty good not the best
when your sniper gets jammed
Still shocking how i headshot someone with a sniper and it didn't one hit kill. Ridiculous.
i would say he is average or slightly above average
maybe im just used to bf4 idk
sniping is just about his only forte
yeah literally dice surely realises this soon and fixes it, plz fix dice 🥺
you cant reduce your sniper rifles power to a point where it can no longer headshot. If you take both the suppressor AND the extended mag, it actually reduces your sniper rifles total damage to a point where it no longer headshots at long range.
That must be a bug because when I was sniping I was always getting 1 shot headshot kills and 2 to the body
snipers should one shot headshot at all ranges period
no, its the suppressor AND the extended mag. Combiend they reduce your power to 75 for the weapon. Which prevents headshots 1 shot.
They do
Suppressor lowers the damage of your gun, and the extended mag thing lowers the damage of your gun further. That's why you cant 1 shot headshot.
what hz were the beta servers running?
maybe damage dropoff? maybe he got a long distance headshot
Nah you can still get really long distance headshots
If the sniper rifle drops below 80 power, it can no longer headshot 1 kill.
Weird that a larger mag drops power down, should just decrease ads times
the hell is power
yeah
Its a stat on the gun, i forget what its called.
Or increase, either way that makes it longer
The weapon balancing is just super ass.
you mean damage right
If it drops below 80 it doesn't headshot 1 kill
firepower I think it was called
I never put the extended mag on once so that's probably why I was always getting 1 shot headshots
Yeah I think its firepower
either way im about to hop on bfv to dominate with type 2a
buff shotgun
yeah that extended mag is not good for it at all
The feeling making kills in bf5 is more satisfying than bf42
yeah shotguns were pretty shitguns ngl
the tink sound in bfv is so satisfying
Tershunk
apparently you can get the BFV sounds in BF2042, its just not in the options yet.
thank god
Ohhh yasss
I love that quick shump
Suomi is stronger than 2a btw
Than again it could be leftover data
yea no
Which is common in game dev
the casino sound 
We'll see
type 2a is stupid busted
Yes
I’ll buy battlefield 2042 not because I like it because there no better fps games on console 😂
and Type 100 dominates everything anyway
i can legit contest ars with type 2a at medium range lmao
Back 4 BLood is pretty good.
Type 100 kills as fast as the mp40
insurgency sandstorm is great
Try the grease gun
it has no recoil, 1000+ rpm, 50 rnd mag
use it right and you can dominate the entire Pacific Theatre
how is the suomi better in cqc
Yes true
Its basically the same as the type 2 a. Type 2 kills a tiny bit quicker
At that point it's personal preference
Halo?
No money I decided to buy far cry 6 instead black for blood 🥺
i wanna get my suomi gold like my type 2a
did you guys see the BF3 glitch in the 2042 beta?
instant kill
i got the sturmgewehr 1-5 gold and its beautiful
I’m on PlayStation
L
Don’t
its so good i love it with rrrr specialization
Try the fg42 or bar. Both of the guns are fun as hell
Most BF5 matches are just people running around with SMGs, kinda boring
My only 2 complaints from the beta are this that aren't bug/optimisation related: 1). UI sucks a goats smelly tomato hole, 2). Littlebird is OP AF.
i have been trying the ke7
Good gun that
stormgun
You can squeeze out an extra kill with the extra bullets
its actually decent ngl had a bit of fun using it
Just run fast reload with nydar on it
Aek is the best gun in battlefield 2042 change my mind
wrong game buddy
M5A5 is the best.
Was about to say, wrong gun.
Aek-971
M5A3
The ak24 is solid
Yeah that.
Just wanted to mention that we don’t have aek again 😹
hmm i think i will play with suomi a bit today
M5A5 isn't a thing
M5a3 is probably too good tbh.
All the guns had bloom though, which was stupid. Bullets going off in random directions isn't balancing. It's lazy.
should i go lrrl specialization on suomi?
i dont think any gun had actual bloom unless it was hipfired, which makes sense.
if it makes it kill faster then yes
when your ADS there is no bloom, there's just the accuracy of the weapon and it stays at that
M5a3 isn't that good
All the guns definitely did.
m5a3 is that beginner ar
it is in 2042.
Apparently it's not as aggressive compared to 4's
Honestly the gun I had the most fun and success was the vector
K30 for the win
In reality the m5a3 is the MCX spear, an Ar configuration of the MPX basically.