battlefield-2042

[restive trail]

also teamplay does not equal kills

ye i like caspers model

[tropic veldt]

well whats the point of playing objectives? to win?

im telling you it doesnt matter cause you can carry games to wins even without playing directly on objective

[gusty jasper]

I bet you if the specialists didn't have names, no one would complain

[tropic veldt]

caping objectives and controlling objectives are very different

[restive trail]

Yes to gain more territory than the enemy giving you more routes to attack them from and gain stuff like vehicles

[tropic veldt]

jets cant cap but they sure as hell can control

[restive trail]

fair point

I just rarely get killed by jets as infantry

[tropic veldt]

sure

most pilots objectively suck

no question about it

[gusty jasper]

If we really want to talk about completely useless players in conquest, look at any recon player

[restive trail]

ye its a sharp learning curve

[gusty jasper]

Especially the long range snipers

[cloud zodiac]

the ones camping at the back of the map yeah

[mental delta]

Recons can be useful if they defend an objective

[cloud zodiac]

the one that plays with the squad and gather objective is great

[gusty jasper]

Yeah ofc I'm just circle jerking

[cloud zodiac]

info*

[gusty jasper]

Recons with radio beacon is insane

Especially on rush

[restive trail]

Agressive recons are so good

[mental delta]

But if they just try to knock out random people on each corner of the map with their sniper yes they are useless

[gusty jasper]

I'm happy tho that we don't have classes in 2042

Just makes things more balanced

[cloud zodiac]

same

[restive trail]

I got quicksoped by this guy today like 6 times and he was within like 20m of me with an M40

[cloud zodiac]

im excited for the specialist system lol

[restive trail]

That guy was so cracked i could not belive my eyes

[mental delta]

It will feel so strange to play a LMG and defibrillator at same time lol

[gusty jasper]

That's how it used to ve

I think

[mental delta]

It will be cool for sure

[gusty jasper]

I'm just sick of the assault meta

For the past decade

[mental delta]

Meta ?

[gusty jasper]

Yes

[mental delta]

What is that

[cloud zodiac]

which battlefield game though

[gusty jasper]

Most efficient playstyle

[cloud zodiac]

it all depends on the game

[gusty jasper]

Bf3 and bf4

[cloud zodiac]

ah yeah

[gusty jasper]

Best guns

Best gadgets

[topaz lintel]

AEK 971 anyone

[cloud zodiac]

AEK and ace 23

lololol

[restive trail]

AEK is so pain

[topaz lintel]

I'm ghilty of loving it myself LOL

[gusty jasper]

Like it was so tiring

[topaz lintel]

AEK go BRIIIIIT

[restive trail]

also can i rant about the G18 quick

[gusty jasper]

G18 IS NOT A PISTOL

It's better than like half of the PDWs

[restive trail]

That's probably the most rage inducing thing in BF4 for me

[wise zodiac]

I mean, it is a pistol tho.

[cloud zodiac]

its like carrying 2 primaries

[gusty jasper]

I know

[cloud zodiac]

lmao

[gusty jasper]

It's a joke

[wise zodiac]

I know

[mental delta]

I hope there's not gonna be an aek 971 style rifle in bf2042

[restive trail]

Oh yeah slow firing ones like the PP2000 and stuff are so outclassed by a sidearm

[gusty jasper]

Using a pdw in BF4 was objectively throwing

[restive trail]

i don't CARE that it has under 20 bullets, it's still OP.

[restive trail]

i think if so they should give it jacked recoil at least

[arctic grove]

Now it's AK 12

[gusty jasper]

Unless it was ASVAL

[wise zodiac]

I want my 249 and 240B back.

[cloud zodiac]

as val was really good

[restive trail]

the thing wrong with the AEK's balance was that it didn't have many disadvantages

[arctic grove]

I want XM8 back

[cloud zodiac]

except for the 20 mag

[mental delta]

Yes I don't want an OP rifle which can fires 30 rounds while not having recoil

[gusty jasper]

People that say AEK has recoil is a lying bitch

[arctic grove]

lmao

[cloud zodiac]

i mean bf4 didn't have that much recoil to begin with

[restive trail]

It had good range and low recoil, and decent accuracy. and the reload is quick so you can keep spraying

[cloud zodiac]

only thing it has was the bloom

which im glad it will never come back

[gusty jasper]

Bloom was so bad

[mental delta]

Me too I hope they will at least put the m249 because it's a legendary LMG

I heard m240b is gonna be in portal

[restive trail]

i think they should give it decent accuracy, but large side-to-side recoil. like to the left a lot, sorta like the RAM-7 in modern warfare

[gusty jasper]

Side to side recoil was one thing BF4 lacked

[wise zodiac]

It's actually not an LMG.

It's a SAW.

The LMG is the 240B

[restive trail]

and also a slower reload so it's a rapid stream of bullets with long delays inbetween

[wise zodiac]

That's real talk.

[topaz lintel]

I love how you say BF4 in the past tense, literally playing it right now

[mental delta]

I saw m249 LMG and m249 SAW

[restive trail]

the FAMAS was balanced cuz it had tons of recoil and a slow reload for a small mag

[gusty jasper]

FAMAS is just if the AEK was balanced

[restive trail]

speaking of which i should play some BF4 late

r

[restive trail]

tru

also i wish they didnt give the CZ-805 so much side-to-side recoil

Otherwise it would be a good rifle

[topaz lintel]

That's the spirit!

[restive trail]

i love that AR even though noone uses it.

my favorite thing is to use underrated guns that are slept on by everyone.

[gusty jasper]

The problem with bf4 is that most of the weapons felt exactly the same as others, BF3 weapons felt a lot more unique from each other

Imo

[arctic grove]

Should i buy new world rn?

[restive trail]

They're always suprisingly good

[arctic grove]

react on the message if i should

[next tree]

Acr in bf2042 when

[restive trail]

i agree BF4 weapons are very similar to each other

[restive trail]

Oh fuck yeah

[wise zodiac]

The M249 is a gas-operated, air-cooled, belt or magazine-fed, automatic weapon that fires from the open-bolt position.

[restive trail]

also they should give it a 6.8 NATO conversion so it's like CoD MW3 all over again.

[pure spoke]

LMG and SAW are the same thing mostly

[mental delta]

Ok ok

[restive trail]

basically a 7.62 rifle with a faster firerate and lower damage at farther ranges

[pure spoke]

SAW is just simply another way of saying machine gun

[restive trail]

Hey eh

[pure spoke]

It's a Squad Automatic Weapon

One guy of the squad has access to this weapon

[wise zodiac]

They aren't the same thing.

[next tree]

Sexy ass weapon

[restive trail]

they're similar

[mental delta]

Which is almost the same as Light Machine Gun

[wise zodiac]

Source: I was a SAW operator in real life in the US Army.

[pure spoke]

Its a squad weapon, most squad weapons are in fact, LMGs

Hence the terms are synonymous

[next tree]

Damn

[pure spoke]

They are light enough on a ruck and have an ammo capacity to fulfill their role of suppression in a combat scenario

[wise zodiac]

It's a SAW, or squad automatic weapon.

The 240B is the "light machine gun"

[pure spoke]

As I said

[mental delta]

So you were using a m249 ?

[next tree]

Can you confirm if they ate crayons

[pure spoke]

It's a synonymous term

That's marines

[wise zodiac]

Wasn't a Marine.

[wise zodiac]

Yes.

[mental delta]

Lol why would they eat crayons ?

[wise zodiac]

And I was also an AG for my 240 weapons squad.

[mental delta]

Isn't the flame really dense ?

[pure spoke]

What I meant was there is no difference between M249 LMG and SAW

[topaz lintel]

Legit question, how do you feel about the representation of LMGs and similar weapons in videogames like BF

[pure spoke]

It's literally just a term for the weapon as a squad weapon

It's an LMG,

Serving its purpose

As a SAW

[drifting cave]

i preordered the 90 dollar 1 im poor now

[fair rain]

5 days till early access beta

[mental delta]

Still better than in cod I think lol

[wise zodiac]

Here's the actual weapons description from the US Army that we get quizzed on in the board:

The M249 machine gun is a gas-operated, air-cooled, belt or magazine-fed, automatic weapon that fires from the open-bolt position.

[next tree]

The marines dumb

[wise zodiac]

I wish it was better, to be fair.

[mental delta]

Lol doesn't that sound a little cliche

[topaz lintel]

Its a stereotypical joke about how U.S. Marins are foolhardy or dimwitted

[restive trail]

Decent. obviously they're way faster in BF than IRL, but if they were then they'd be garbage. in this case balance is more important than realism.

imm play some BF4 now

bye

[topaz lintel]

What would one of the first thing's you'd change?

[next tree]

bye

[wise zodiac]

I'd like it to actually suppress, and 7-10 round bursts be accurate.

Also, I'd love for runaway guns to be a thing.

[next tree]

Xero weird question but did yall ever engrave yalls guns or helmets or whatever

[pure spoke]

I would assume that would be against regulations

[wise zodiac]

Break the link.

[topaz lintel]

Is there any situation in real life that you'd be shooting it from an offhand [standing] position?

[wise zodiac]

We can't damage government equipment like that. No.

[next tree]

Yeah think it was banned after vietnam

[wise zodiac]

Yes. If you got shot in your dominant and had to swap arms.

Train how you fight.

I train like that right now for my job.

[topaz lintel]

Oh, I mean standing up and moving around as opposed to prone or crouched

[fair rain]

I'm left handed, but left handed guns in game feels weird

[wise zodiac]

Yes.

[nova idol]

Suppression is one of the worst mechanics bf has ever made, its only good use is fucking with snipers

[pure spoke]

Question for ya, how much did you hate the 31Bs on-base while you served?

[topaz lintel]

That's what I meant by offhand LOL

[fair rain]

Like csgo having an option to switch from right hand to left hand, even though irl I shoot from left hand

[mental delta]

Is it difficult to fire while not being on the ground ?

[wise zodiac]

The answer is still yes. Because peeping around corners, silhouettes and such.

[next tree]

No if your getting pushed you can make them take cover til teamates come

[wise zodiac]

Had zero interactions with MPs. 😆

[pure spoke]

I'm asking because I need to know how many dirty looks I'll be getting

[fair rain]

My brother has an SKS and I shoot from left hand with it

Even has a bayonet on it lol, looks like some ghetto WW2 relic

[topaz lintel]

I've read that in WWI that there was this thing called "marching fire" where teams of light machine operators would line up 18th century style and start shooting and walking towards the enemy's position.

[pure spoke]

I know MPs get a lot of shit from their grunt brethren

[wise zodiac]

Cause yall ruin the fun.

[topaz lintel]

Is that something in use now?

[wise zodiac]

But nah, I was in my barracks room playing WoW.

Lmao

[topaz lintel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marching_fire

[wise zodiac]

I did that in a live fire exercise pushing a room with a SAW after my team "went down".

[next tree]

I just thought of that modern warfare sks customization

[wise zodiac]

Cut a target in half.

[topaz lintel]

Would it ever be done in an open field?

Or only in enclosed areas like that room?

[next tree]

Thats a damn death wish

[next onyx]

Would LMG's be classified as IAR's to a degree or something?

I guess different

[topaz lintel]

I'm guessing that tactic dies out after WWI then

[pure spoke]

Doing anything in an open field sounds quite disastrous

[wise zodiac]

Different.

[mental delta]

So M27 isn't an LMG

[wise zodiac]

Yeah, if you're getting ambushed in an open field.

Near ambush. One of our battle drills.

[wise zodiac]

No, it's an IAR

[mental delta]

What's the difference, the amount of ammo ?

[next tree]

Bruh I use ww1 red baron tactics in bf4 probably not irl since jets take a while to slowdown

[fair rain]

The marching fire is if you're ambushed and don't know the exact location of your enemy so you and your team fire in the general location to suppress them

[topaz lintel]

That makes sense

[wise zodiac]

How the weapon functions is the classification of what it is.

[next onyx]

I guess i think of IAR's in the same action

[fair rain]

Whilst recovering an injured friendly

[wise zodiac]

Kinda sorta. It's more so like "oh shit, contact 15 meters front, push push push." And you rake the field infront of you

[arctic grove]

HEY NOOBS

[next tree]

[mental delta]

So I guess the suppression power of an LMG is largely better than the one of an IAR

[wise zodiac]

Has nothing to do with recovering team mates

[wise zodiac]

Yes.

[arctic grove]

😋

[wise zodiac]

Best recovery of a team mate in the field IS TC3.

[arctic grove]

NOOB GANG

[wise zodiac]

TC3 for the win.

[pure spoke]

You said you still train, I hope you don't mind my asking, are you in Law Enforcement by any chance?

[arctic grove]

TC3 NOOB

[pure spoke]

Or are you active duty?

[mental delta]

Law Enforcement what is that?

[wise zodiac]

Former active duty. I'm now armed contract security.

[pure spoke]

I see.

[arctic grove]

What's your K/D

[fair rain]

Interesting, I thought the point of the suppression most of the time was during an ambush and trying to recover an injured friendly

[mental delta]

God what kind of question is that lol

[arctic grove]

Lol random Q N A

[topaz crown]

Lol

[radiant echo]

hype

[pure spoke]

By my understanding, suppression is making the enemy keep their heads down so you can get your muzzles on em without bullets flying at ya

[arctic grove]

Pretty much

It's common strategy

[radiant echo]

https://open.spotify.com/track/7wkTdtuJdPKR1RUJdC4AHJ?si=5b254fcd6ef3418e hype

[topaz crown]

Wait, we've seen Espinoza a few times, I'm guessing he's a specialist?

[mental delta]

And you can move your position the time they are on suppression which seems really important to survive

[frozen stag]

Say a command 😩

Imagine we get like map in usa like a golden gate bridge map where the levolution is the bridge

[wise zodiac]

Yeah. Keeping their heads down so your team can maneuver on them.

[fair rain]

Is it used on snipers too?

[topaz crown]

This sounds interesting

[wise zodiac]

Thats the purpose of suppressing fire.

[frozen stag]

2042 golden gate

[coral nest]

Anyone know if V-22s are planes or helicopters or something else?

[radiant echo]

Type-2a sucks

[next onyx]

Keep their eyes in one place while your friendlies flank

BAR IS fun

[radiant echo]

[topaz lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-dinosaur-smoking-thinking-gif-8423180

[next onyx]

Hey Sergo have you seen what you can do with the chauchat

[topaz crown]

Wait, what if I have no friends?

[wise zodiac]

Nope. It's to stop them from firing at you so you can fire at them.

[frozen stag]

Like a russian attack on the homeland season

In the future of the game

[radiant echo]

Yeah I saw ur vid it was insane good job

[frozen stag]

We get some us maps

[next onyx]

It's such a fun gun man

With a beautiful firing sound

[radiant echo]

Hell yeah

[fair rain]

Do you just do like an over the wall blind spray? Cause how do you peak and suppress when you are already getting shot at

[radiant echo]

Feels like DMR to me sometimes

[next onyx]

I mean

It's a full auto semi for support

[radiant echo]

Yeah fire rate xD

[wise zodiac]

No. PID before you fire.

[topaz crown]

Playing a bit of Hell Let Loose while waiting for BF, BF Hype Train, don't leave me behind

[radiant echo]

Yeah

[next onyx]

Same with the grease gun which i just like to call a nail gun

[radiant echo]

Yeah it feels like that

[frozen stag]

I wanna pitch this idea to dice. An attack on the homeland season/seasons in 2042 something happens and russia attacks the usa headon and we get usa maps

[next onyx]

If the Grease gun is a nail gun the Chauchat is a fucking sledgehammer.

[mental delta]

Why not in Russia so ?

[radiant echo]

Yeah sound is like 10 times heavier xD

[topaz crown]

Surely they can use Alcatraz?

[arctic grove]

Operation metro in NY pls

[frozen stag]

A strike back? Back after they attack

[radiant echo]

[topaz crown]

Operation Firestorm please

[radiant echo]

Operation Locker plz

[pure spoke]

Invasion of mainland Russia is logistically and strategically suicide

[fair rain]

Make it grand operation

[mental delta]

Or before

[next onyx]

Huh so the Americans were a really big fan of 30. 06

[radiant echo]

Nah we have breakthrough

[fair rain]

Russia invades USA, next map is USA invading russia

[frozen stag]

Grand operations

😩

[next onyx]

The Garand, U.S Chauchat, Bar, Springfield and the AmericanEinfield all used it

[mental delta]

Operation metro is one of the only French maps, don't take me that please

[arctic grove]

I hope grand operations r in this game

[topaz crown]

Squad Deathmatch needs to return

[radiant echo]

Lol

You don't like France ?

[fair rain]

Grand operation is cool, I like multi map games with some lore behind it

[frozen stag]

I dont think we have ever gotten a usa map

[mental delta]

There's 99% chances there will not

[radiant echo]

We had a lot in Hardline

[next onyx]

Guess it makes sense shove your ammo into as many guns as possible

[lone wren]

it would suit 2042 for the lack of single player campaign

[arctic grove]

Bf hardline would like to see ur location

[radiant echo]

yeah

[frozen stag]

In a military battlefield

[next onyx]

yeah Hardline maps were in the U.S for obvious reasons

[fair rain]

"Russia invaded LA, it's time we pay them a visit in Moscow" blah blah blah cool lore here

[radiant echo]

I wanna see golden gate bridge tbh

[frozen stag]

With tanks and shit

[arctic grove]

Hardline was funnn

[next onyx]

It's kinda funny how 1942 went off with the theory of Japan invading Australia

[mental delta]

I'm French lol so I'm glad to have one or two maps in battlefield which happens in France, so I don't want to move the location of Op Metro as it's one of the only maps in my country

[topaz crown]

Fighting at the Statue 🗽

[radiant echo]

Sry lads Idk a lot about US

[next onyx]

They should have made a map where Japan is attacking Alaska

Or something

[radiant echo]

Yea yeah I got u now

[radiant echo]

Interesting

[next onyx]

Because the Americans actually made a tank specifically to counter that

If i remember correctly

[frozen stag]

Get this. A brooklyn bridge map or the finacial district of manhatten

[radiant echo]

[topaz crown]

These sound great

[mental delta]

Do you want to create a diplomatic incident between USA and Japan right now ?

[topaz crown]

I would love dices tools to build a map, I would actually love a level design job

[frozen stag]

But really i want a golden gate bridge map cuz the bridge is so big irl that it could just be a map itself

[radiant echo]

How about another map in Suez Canal

[radiant echo]

Yeah

[mental delta]

No.

[frozen stag]

Ship levolution 😂

[fair rain]

What's different from every Western game making Russia/China as the bad guys in every fps lol

[frozen stag]

Get stuck

[topaz lintel]

All jokes aside, USA invading mainland Russia or vice versa is kind of a tired topic for video games, especially when one considers the ridiculouness of the situation.

Even if we ignore the affect of thermonuclear weapons, both nations would be a shell of their former selves, almost completly destroyied even if one side "wins".

In an all out nuclear war, the world ends in days. In an all out conventional war, the world ends in weeks.

From my point of view, unless a video game, movie, or novel explores this reality, this trope is not condusive to an engaging story.

[wise zodiac]

Glad that chat moved along.

[radiant echo]

Current time with no sand xD

[radiant echo]

Lol

[wide shore]

I want any maps set in the US. We almost never have any. This game would be perfect for it.

[arctic grove]

[radiant echo]

One week ago it was

Kids

crying

[next onyx]

The chat was awful

[wide shore]

Other than Hardline ofc

[buoyant nimbus]

wolvarines!

[frozen stag]

Whos on ps5 and wants to plau beta on the 6th? All my friends on last gen

[next onyx]

It's way better now

[radiant echo]

[radiant echo]

Yeah for sure

[next onyx]

Pun unintended

[fair rain]

Well nuclear warfare is dumb and both high powered nations know that it is assured destruction

[pure spoke]

From a modern standpoint, neither Russia nor The United States want a nuclear war. Since the cold war ended, most developed nations have constantly pondered on the subject and have taken steps to avoid it

[fair rain]

If one side shoots nukes, the other side will shoot double the nukes

[radiant echo]

Idk what was wrong with these guys but when DICE announced the beta they're all suddenly gone xD

[frozen stag]

Nukes? Ultron

[topaz crown]

Thought it had cross-play

[mental delta]

Russia and China are used to now lol but I'm pretty sure Japanese will not appreciate we insult their honor

[next onyx]

Considering how important the Suez Canal is i wouldn't be surprised if we got another map in it

[pure spoke]

Conventional warfare for an invasion of either country would be disastrous

[lone wren]

i am updating my geforce driver in hopes to finally work bfv

[topaz crown]

Apart from last gen obviously

[radiant echo]

Hell yeah I work there 🤞

[frozen stag]

It does but in the beta you cant party up with xbox or pc till launch

[wide shore]

Give us a map in DC. That would be the shit

[frozen stag]

Only matchmake

[radiant echo]

[mental delta]

Lol a sand map doesn't disturb me as it's not a line straight map as Suez Canal was

[topaz lintel]

Agreed, and what I'm thinking is that even if nukes weren't a factor, the distructive power of conventional armanments would produce the same effect.

[arctic grove]

Pentagon oh that would be cool

[frozen stag]

I wish hourglass was in the beta

[fair rain]

I want Canadian map one of these days

[wide shore]

I’m trying to live my Fallout 3 memories again.

[topaz lintel]

It would only be a matter of time.

[radiant echo]

Lol that's true

[fair rain]

Since one of the operators is Canadian

[radiant echo]

Ooooooooooooooooooh

[tawdry cape]

r

[radiant echo]

I wanted Ice map and we got breakaway

[topaz lintel]

If I recall correctly, one of the modern warefare campaigns was set partially in DC when the Russians invade.

[next onyx]

I can imagine them just placing more factories in place instead

[radiant echo]

I gotta say we have a good diversity in the maps

[frozen stag]

I hope we get a levolution trailer and i hope levolution works on breakthrough

[wide shore]

The maps are all over the place. Which I’m happy about.

[arctic grove]

New biggest map in Bf history

👌

[wide shore]

Outside of Halvoy

[topaz crown]

That sucks

I mean I know in beta and when game launches I won't be able to play with people on old gens as I own a Series S, which means to play with them I'd have to launch the Xbox One version, bit shocking but I'm OK with that

[radiant echo]

Desert and Ice and urban

[wide shore]

Cause Halvoy is still bigger.

[radiant echo]

Yeah II hope it plays well

[mental delta]

This map attracts me the most with the one in Egypt

[radiant echo]

Well I won't count that

[topaz crown]

Discarded looks an insane map

[mental delta]

The one with containers looks cool af too

[radiant echo]

Yeah for sure looks very interesting imo

[radiant echo]

Yeah manifest

[wide shore]

This is the one I’m most excited about.

[frozen stag]

Imagine on discarded the tides could change? Like in the world of 2042 picture

Floodzone pt 2

[radiant echo]

Fun fact the country that has most maps in 2042 is Egypt

Renewal

And El Alamin in portal

[topaz crown]

Omg yes, with a massive storm too?

[mental delta]

Yes it looks like a labyrinth and the night rain ambiance near a large city looks really nice

[frozen stag]

Yes 🙌

[radiant echo]

Yeah for sure

I heard that it will have dynamic objectives

[fair rain]

I thought it was Dubai

[radiant echo]

Like ships to capture and they move

[mental delta]

Yes but I'm obviously waiting Noshar Canals on BF3 more

[radiant echo]

Arica harbor

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind seeing a re-release of Halvoy

[radiant echo]

Omg Caspian border

[next onyx]

In full 128p glory

[mental delta]

Like the map can change during the game ?

[wide shore]

Same

[frozen stag]

Did we all just forget about manifest map?

[radiant echo]

Maybe 256

it's so big

[fair rain]

I want remake of Damavand Peak

[topaz crown]

Best map I've played with Caspian Border and Operation Firestorm

[radiant echo]

[topaz lintel]

256 players!?

I thought 128 would be the max

[radiant echo]

I miss it so much

[fair rain]

I think that was the bf3 map where you spawn on a mountain and drop to wherever on the map

[radiant echo]

I think last time I played BC2 was in 2013

[frozen stag]

Mainly i wanna play hourglass tho😩😩😩

[mental delta]

We were talking about it like 1 min ago lmao

[radiant echo]

Looks dope in the storm

Red sky

[topaz crown]

I do too, I miss BFBC2, I'm glad we get to replay it with the 128 players

[radiant echo]

In the gameplay trailer

[frozen stag]

Oh

[radiant echo]

Yeah

[cloud zodiac]

playing breakthrough in those massive maps are gonna be fun

[fair rain]

I just wanna see some crazy storm/weather shit on all the maps lol

[mental delta]

Yes it was one of the most epic maps I played in a FPS game

[fair rain]

Hopefully it's not just a tornado

[topaz lintel]

Next BF we have 128 players per squad LOL

[radiant echo]

I can imagine Manifest = Meat grinder

[frozen stag]

I hope they extend the beta and add hourglass

[fair rain]

Like icemap could have an avalanche

[radiant echo]

Doubt

[frozen stag]

I mean its not impossible

[cloud zodiac]

extend probably add maps nah

[radiant echo]

Yeah but they never did something like that

[fair rain]

Next next-gen of battlefield will probably be 256 players

[frozen stag]

Bf5 beta they added narvik?

[radiant echo]

And orbital looks dope

[radiant echo]

Really

[next onyx]

Rotterdam and Narvik were there since day one of the beta

[radiant echo]

I only played Rotterdam

[lone wren]

imagine very brutal snow storms in some battlefield 2042 maps

[cloud zodiac]

it ends on a saturday so extending to sunday wouldnt be a stretch

the ol extend it to gain the favor of the community trick

[fair rain]

I'm just excited for the immersion battlefield brings, it's always very immersive with the audio and visuals

[mental delta]

No it was the default map

[radiant echo]

Lol I never played Narvik in the beta for some reason

[radiant echo]

yeah yeah

[frozen stag]

And also they only released the music for orbital and hourglass when the beta was supposed to start on 22nd but not music for other maps

Why only 2 map musics

?

[next onyx]

Narvik was the very first map they worked on, You can tell because of the Alpha and the come back mechanic where if the opposing team gets all capped, Their vehicle supply will double and respawn instantly.

[fair rain]

Cod feels like some Roblox map, battlefield feels like I'm in a real war

[frozen stag]

Thats why im saying maybe the were gonna add hourglass

[radiant echo]

I don't like Rotterdam tbh It looks so good but it doesn't play well for me

[cloud zodiac]

didnt they release it a week early cause of leaks?

[radiant echo]

[radiant echo]

yeah yeah

[topaz crown]

What time 7:00 AM UTC?

[radiant echo]

Idk

Orbital is so big

And we have 4 days

[mental delta]

Rotterdam is cool but some parts of the map are just too hard to play

[radiant echo]

that's fine for sure

However

[fair rain]

I honestly feel like this will be the year battlefield outsells cod 100%

[mental delta]

Like the close quarters streets

[frozen stag]

Rotterdam sucks asshole thats why i play strategic

[radiant echo]

Nightbird is gonna be OP

Mark my words

[radiant echo]

[fair rain]

Vanguard looks like hot trash from the beta gameplay I saw on twitch and a cluster fuck of garbage

[radiant echo]

BF1 didn't

[cloud zodiac]

people are gonna buy it regardless of how shitty COD is lol

[radiant echo]

Yeah it wasn't good

[fair rain]

So boring looking

[radiant echo]

I'm not a fan of COD but yeah it was kinda underwhelming and northing new about it

[topaz crown]

It could look like squares and they'd buy it

[fair rain]

Just cold war copy pasted with modern warfare downgraded graphics and WW2 skin applied

[mental delta]

It can be good with an LMG or some SMG you run into campers or pushers if you are defender in breakthrough

[fair rain]

2042 actually looks next gen for fps

[radiant echo]

I mean people buy COD

always

In Whatever state

[topaz crown]

When I played, the graphics were absolutely terrible

[fair rain]

Meanwhile cod still 6vs6 boring gameplay of aids

I hope Activision goes bankrupt

[mental delta]

Unfortunately there are still weird people to buy a shitty game like vanguard

[fair rain]

Dumbasses putting all of their funds into just boring cod copy pastes

[topaz crown]

I don't buy COD every year, I did when it was COD4 to BO2 days

[pseudo nebula]

they should go full planetside, battlefield 2142 1000 players

[next onyx]

One thing i realised

[radiant echo]

good days

[white geyser]

COD is nothing but a recycle game and never bother fixing the game

[fair rain]

Yep cod fell off hard after blops2

[pseudo nebula]

yes

[topaz crown]

Oh they were 100%

[fair rain]

Blops1/mw2 was my favourite cod times though

[next onyx]

In the report thing, There's "Offensive username" - Chance we can change our tags in game

[radiant echo]

Idk of actually 128 is gonna play well

[next onyx]

Black ops 2 was so much fun man

Coming home from school

[pseudo nebula]

purely map dependant

[mental delta]

Lol why

[next onyx]

Hopping on with your friends

[mental delta]

What's your tag

[next onyx]

Name

[lone wren]

my pc not having a fun time today all my games have been acting weird

[next onyx]

I guess tag can refer to gamertag but still

[topaz crown]

Can't wait to see players run in rainbow animated skin on Normandy beach in Vanguard

[fair rain]

I had fun playing blops2 on the 360 with the bros

[radiant echo]

Hmmmmm maybe ,The thing that worries me is gameplay sabotage idk what that means and it could be abused

[radiant echo]

Yeah that's right

[next onyx]

I think it refers to DDOS

[fair rain]

Now zombies sucks absolute ass and all the maps are smaller than an ant and have no taste and completely ruined

[mental delta]

I had fun playing BF3 on PS3 with the bros

[radiant echo]

I thought it was about trolling

[cloud zodiac]

gameplay sabotage is probably giving your team call ins away or blowing up friendly vehicles/stealing them

[next onyx]

I guess that as well Sergo

[cloud zodiac]

like ruining your team experience

[radiant echo]

Oh noe

[next onyx]

When i think of Sabotage i think of the absolute worse

[white geyser]

Bad Company 2 I had fun with good players as a bro

[radiant echo]

That means no trolololo

[fair rain]

Blops1/2 best zombies maps, no stupid ass gum balls, random ass characters and actual good classic maps

[cloud zodiac]

theres a fine line between trolling and griefing lol

thats griefing not trolling

[next onyx]

Black ops 3 and cold war zombies were alright

[cloud zodiac]

throwing your vehicles for the enemy team is not trolling

[radiant echo]

I was pushing campers in BF4 with the MAV all the time

[fair rain]

Idk I didn't like cold war zombies

[radiant echo]

[next onyx]

It's not like they can find who did it anyways Sergo

[cloud zodiac]

yeah lol

[radiant echo]

Yeah lol

[cloud zodiac]

they wont even have a spectator system on launch

[next onyx]

To be honest

[fair rain]

Blops1 /blops2 maps were simple, and good. Had the classic characters not these randoms

[next onyx]

That really does suck

[radiant echo]

Maybe after a certain amounts of reports in a certain time

[next onyx]

But seeing how bugged bf5's was

They might need time to adjust it

[mental delta]

Bo 3 was pure shit but Zombies was incredible, I bought all the dlcs like a dumb shit but they were all good for zombies maps...

[radiant echo]

I don't understand how they did in the last 3 games

[next onyx]

And bf5's was prone is really glitching out

[radiant echo]

Hope they add it

[cloud zodiac]

probably all the weather and shit

[next onyx]

Black ops 3 multiplayer was fine

[cloud zodiac]

gonna fuck up the spectator system

[next onyx]

i got back to it though and i cant aim for SHIT

Weird aim values plus aim accel you can't even adjust

It's just awful

[radiant echo]

Even team switch would be good

In BF5 I found my self in a team full of 14 vs 30

[cloud zodiac]

weird that they removed team switching in bf5

[arctic grove]

Hey

[cloud zodiac]

you had to have a friend on the enemy team to switch

[radiant echo]

Best thing is to switch the best squads

Not just one player

[mental delta]

I hope not I always get team balanced when I make my better scores and I am the only fucker to get balanced

[radiant echo]

Cuz it's really bad when I play with my friends

That's on RSP servers on BF4 tho

[next onyx]

On xbox you can just join some randoms squad to team switch

[quick siren]

call of duty much better bf

[next onyx]

Which is great for balancing the lobby out

[radiant echo]

Not for me

[mental delta]

Too jumpy for me

[next onyx]

Don't give the rand attention

Jumpy?

[quick siren]

battle field story mod is trash like garbage

[arctic grove]

Ummm cod vanguards beta had more bugs the bf 2042 pre alpha lmao

[radiant echo]

I think halo have good chance this year

Provided the fix the performance

[cloud zodiac]

looks hella fun

[quick siren]

who care of bugs they will be fixed

[cloud zodiac]

relive childhood memories

[quick siren]

bf games are tarsh like hell

[radiant echo]

Yeah I played the big mode today and it was so fun

[fair rain]

Well the gameplay is dogshit

[cloud zodiac]

i remember playing halo 4 on my xbox 360

[mental delta]

The opposite for me, getting team balanced and be unable to play normally for 3 games straight is the worth shit it can happens to you while playing

[cloud zodiac]

lmao

[dull crater]

Nice England

[cloud zodiac]

splitscreen and shit

[fair rain]

Cod cold war looks the same as blops 2 on Xbox in terms of graphics

[brittle forge]

bro you can't even spell trash right

[quick siren]

no one can forget sandman cap price yuri

[mental delta]

That doesn't bother to have to find another server because the one I'm playing on is not balanced

[radiant echo]

Well why BF4 has 20000 players per day while COD ghost has what ?

[fair rain]

Battlefield will smash cod this year and next year because every cod sucks absolute ass

[cloud zodiac]

damn no one listened to way lmao

[quick siren]

bf sucks

[shadow summit]

thats because they had to downgrade graphics so it can run on ps4

/s

[fair rain]

Same copy pasted game with new skin

[cloud zodiac]

dont give trolls attention cause thats the only thing they want

[quick siren]

wow

[cloud zodiac]

block n move on

[next onyx]

Stop giving the random attention peoples.

[cloud zodiac]

yeah

[fair rain]

All they care is about milking your mommies credit card

[dull crater]

A part from zombies, every cod is recycled garbage with the same shit every year

[cloud zodiac]

he's only here for your attention

so

[fair rain]

For anime cat girl skins

[radiant echo]

Yeah I should've listened to that 👍

My bad

Sry guys

[quick siren]

bf is ok but not better than cod

[shadow summit]

true. cod coming out with vanguard but that shit from what i hear is dogshit lol

[cloud zodiac]

only 4 days left till beta

[next onyx]

All good Sergo

[cloud zodiac]

so fast

[next onyx]

Honestly

[shadow summit]

why did they even make another ww2 title...

[arctic grove]

Alot of people care having that many bugs in a beta is just huge red flags. like have bugs in alpha pre alpha but beta is pretty much a pre launch it shows they are rushing and not caring. which is even worse because its literaly a copy and past of MW just older era like how do you fuck up a copy and paste

[radiant echo]

Yeah can't wait

Or I can

Gonna play BF4 so hard till the launch

[fair rain]

Cause they have like 600 cods at this point and have to rehash old ideas

[radiant echo]

Gonna miss this game for sure

[cloud zodiac]

open beta announcement was 4 days ago

wow

[mental delta]

And some rainbow flags or laser bullets

[cloud zodiac]

it felt like a blink

[fair rain]

Plus sledgehammer games can't make a good game if their life depended on it

[quick siren]

see cod ratings and bf ratings snorting ass and then come here

[radiant echo]

Yeah

[shadow summit]

their last ww2 game

Initial release date: November 3, 2017

[golden frost]

How do you play the beta on ps4?

[shadow summit]

nobody likes vietnam/korean era? 😭

[cloud zodiac]

i agree

[mental delta]

Lol imagine being so hyped by a shitty franchise that you don't care about bugs anymore

[fair rain]

Look at bf2042 reveal trailer and cod Vanguard trailer on YouTube

[topaz lintel]

What do y'all think of BF2042 having no campaign?

[radiant echo]

PS store probably in the 8th and If you pre-ordered or subscribed to EA play ur gonna get it on the 6th 👍

[quick siren]

bf sucks

[fair rain]

One has 1 million likes, the other like a quarter million dislikes

[mental delta]

Sad

[radiant echo]

When I saw portal

I couldn't care less

[cloud zodiac]

honestly trolls/people who sole purpose is to agitate the chat should be muted

[golden frost]

Thx

[cloud zodiac]

they add nothing to the conversation

[topaz lintel]

???

[shadow summit]

atleast battlefield is bringing something fresh.. but honestly i think its cod attempt to see just how much they can get away with bullshit like this... i bet u they use the same models from the ww2 game lol

[fair rain]

IDC about campaign cause all battlefield campaigns are meh, it's the multiplayer people like

[radiant echo]

Portal is 1000x times better than a 4 hours campaign imo

[cloud zodiac]

idk why there isn't a rule for this yet since they are so frequent lol

[radiant echo]

no

[fair rain]

Because it's epic and fun

[proud scarab]

Rule for what???

[shadow summit]

battlefield 4 was the last good campaign dice ever made imo.. these newer ones just feels like training mission so boring

[radiant echo]

It's not creative or has like replay value

[cloud zodiac]

facts

bf has always been about the multiplayer experience

[radiant echo]

Unlike games like Doom eternal

[next onyx]

The trolls get themselves sorted out in the end

[radiant echo]

And I would prefer more maps for sure

[cloud zodiac]

you dont see people posting campaign montage do you

lol

[radiant echo]

Yeah lol

[radiant echo]

exactly

[fair rain]

And not like battlefield has to compete in campaigns with cod

[cloud zodiac]

play once and forget

and its not cheap to develop a campaign

[radiant echo]

You know I started with BF2

[fair rain]

Every cod campaign lately has been copy pasted cliche ideas from Netflix movies

MW was alright

[radiant echo]

It didn't have a campaign on PC

[mental delta]

Bfh campaign was better

[radiant echo]

DICE actually made a good singleplayer game

[cloud zodiac]

im excited to see how hazard zone story driven content will go

[radiant echo]

Mirror's edge

I love that game

[topaz lintel]

I'd argue that BF4 wasn't too great

Sorry, BF4 campaign wasn't too great

BF4 multiplayer is awesome

[shadow summit]

i never got a chance to play hardline, i played beta and just skipped it for w/e reason

[radiant echo]

Yeah seems like they put some work into it from what I saw with Exodus

[next onyx]

They said that different melee weapons will trigger different animations which while has always been the case, i wonder if they'll tie unique animations to them individually

[radiant echo]

Well

ACB knife

[mental delta]

Yes bf4 campaign was a bit boring and unsatisfying to me

[radiant echo]

It was the veteran Knife in BF4

[next onyx]

Honestly the ACB knife is just your good old legacy knife

[cloud zodiac]

cant wait to see their variety of melee weapons

[next onyx]

It's been a long time since we've seen it

[radiant echo]

Yeah yeah exactly

[cloud zodiac]

i want the bipod knife to make a comeback lol

[radiant echo]

Hell yeah

Maybe when you get to the first S-level

[mental delta]

I can understand why you didn't play mp but campaign was really great however

[proud scarab]

S levels excite me

[verbal fox]

I know that the battlefield 2042 is going to be in the ultimate gamepass and they confirmed it to me on this channel, but is it going to be in the EA Latin American app?

[radiant echo]

Yeah me too

[topaz lintel]

BF2042 is going to be on gamepass!? LET"S GO!

[next onyx]

Latin American app that's weird

It should be

[shadow summit]

was it on the same level as cod? with cod, their single player really fuckin immerse u into the era of the game focus..

[verbal fox]

I ask because things are always late here

[next onyx]

Do note Maalik, Game pass ultimate but yeah that's a really big bonus!

[shadow summit]

its like a short movie that ur playing through

[radiant echo]

Idk check the website

[arctic grove]

I wish bf2042 had a campaign man

[topaz lintel]

That's what I have, its how I got into BF4 to start with

[mental delta]

The story telling is good, characters are nice too and you can customize all your weapons which is a good improvement regarding others battlefield games campaigns

[radiant echo]

Portal > campaign imo

[verbal fox]

If it is not in the ultimate gamepass I will spend the 5000 Argentine pesos the same

[elder schooner]

so exited to play this game

[mental delta]

A coop campaign would be fine too

[elder schooner]

in a few days

[proud scarab]

Guys you’re thinking about it wrong

[radiant echo]

hmmmm

[proud scarab]

There is a campaign in 2042

[radiant echo]

Yeah

[proud scarab]

It’s called Portal x3

[radiant echo]

Yeah in 3 time lines

When they announced portal I lost my mind

[mental delta]

Hazard zone seems to get a narration but I wait to see

[radiant echo]

The best thing that we could wish

[cloud zodiac]

hazard zone is the closest to a campaign you'll get

[proud scarab]

Ya know. I forgot Hazard Zone existed x3

[mental delta]

Portal hypes me more than the main game does

[radiant echo]

yeah lol

[radiant echo]

Me too

[proud scarab]

I hope all 3 game modes will be popular. Hopefully there’s something for legit EVERYONE

[mental delta]

Me too and it doesn't attracts me the most to be honest

[radiant echo]

Main game has an insane ideas tho

[arctic grove]

Nobody wants that

[radiant echo]

[verbal fox]

battlefield is a special experience my dad bought me the battlefield V for my birthday this year I fell in love instantly now I played all the battlefields that are in the gamepass

[proud scarab]

You must be new here 😄

[radiant echo]

[arctic grove]

I’m old here

[radiant echo]

I lost my shit when I saw Caspian border

[verbal fox]

[fair rain]

Portal looks amazing

Like Halo forge mode

[proud scarab]

Then you should know Portal is something everyone is excited about lol

[mental delta]

Absolutely everybody does

[fair rain]

Portal is a loveletter to the fans

[radiant echo]

It's like RSP but free with more freedom and insane content

[verbal fox]

I've never been so eager for a game to come out (battlefield 2042)

[cloud zodiac]

also the solution to all complainers

[radiant echo]

Yeah for sure

[cloud zodiac]

if they dont like something they can just change it in portal

[mental delta]

The same when I saw noshar canals and understood I would be able to pilot LAV 25 through water to containers

[radiant echo]

Tbh I wanted proper custom server maker but with portal that's next level with 6 maps

[radiant echo]

lol that's insane

[arctic grove]

Nobody wants to run around with knives and defibrillators

[radiant echo]

LOOOOL

[proud scarab]

It’s funny. With all the shit we’re getting people will probably still complain. 😂😂

[mental delta]

Lol yes we want

[cloud zodiac]

you don't speak for everyone lol

[radiant echo]

Looks like You never tried phantom bow only in Operation locker

[mental delta]

Yeah that sounds like amphibious landing to me

[cloud zodiac]

portal isn't just knifes and defibs

[proud scarab]

Pffft. Clubs only in BF 1..

[cloud zodiac]

its everything

[radiant echo]

[cloud zodiac]

from normal modes to custom

[arctic grove]

Y’all hyped now I guarantee you nobody will be playing that

[tribal ruin]

this game is a scam, said beta was september

[radiant echo]

[tribal ruin]

now i gotta wait 5 days to play this game

imagine having to wait 5 days to play, my dad owns EA and i demand to play

[radiant echo]

Well the OG fans will

[cloud zodiac]

its not like portal is gonna have normal servers

[radiant echo]

And I saw a lot of BF4 famous clans moving to Portal

[cloud zodiac]

you act like portal only has the wacky gamemodes lol

[tribal ruin]

they should add d day

[radiant echo]

Yeah lol

It's everything

[cloud zodiac]

ill be playing portal with the 2042 base mode + portal maps

[fair rain]

Battlefield will probably be the most popular game this year shut up

[proud scarab]

^

[radiant echo]

You can make CO-OP vs AI

[proud scarab]

^

[fair rain]

No one wants to play the same goddamn rehashed cod for the 69th time in their lives

[proud scarab]

Fucking imagine

[tribal ruin]

how do i download battleifeld beta

someone tell me

[mental delta]

They should add Oman Gulf after the release of portal

[proud scarab]

A squad of German soldiers defecting and fighting against a team of AI German soldiers.

XD

[tribal ruin]

this

call of duty is shit

[arctic grove]

will the portal maps have weather effects or nah

[fair rain]

Not to mention sledgehammer games cods are the worst out of the trio of developers

So this one is a guaranteed flop

[tribal ruin]

vanguard is shit

the gameplay is shit

[verbal fox]

Hopefully it doesn't consume 100% of the processor and 30% of the graphics in this battlefield 2042, the battlefield V consumes all the processor and nothing on the video card. I know it has to do with physics but I have an r 3 3200g and an rx 570 (I know I'm going to play everything to the minimum but it doesn't bother me)

[radiant echo]

Alright guys I'm gonna sleep now

[arctic grove]

yes

[radiant echo]

Good night

[next onyx]

Take care

[arctic grove]

gn

[tribal ruin]

modern warfare 2019 bad too

[mental delta]

I think you'll be able to activate it when creating a server yes

[next onyx]

Vanguard looks fun as hell

[fair rain]

That's heresy

[arctic grove]

Vanguard fun as hell

welcome to my mine wea re mining diamonds we dont go to srrip mine we dont go to mine coal welcome to my mine the cavbe the craft my min is your mine iif you are treating it right sorry if my min dont got the coal we can dig down and find more of that

[tribal ruin]

bf 5 was bad, bf4 is bad, bf1 is good

[mental delta]

Fucked I sneezed and almost died

[tribal ruin]

every battlefield besides bf1 is good

[fair rain]

I watched xqc play vanguard and I literally fell asleep to the gameplay

[tribal ruin]

all cods are bad

waw wasnt bad

[arctic grove]

Vanguard > BFV > BF1

[tribal ruin]

bf1 > bfV > vanguard

vanguard is shit

[next onyx]

I prefer battlefield 5 way more than the others to be honest

[mental delta]

Sledgehammer, activision but who is the third one

[tribal ruin]

bf1 has BEHEMOTHS

[tribal ruin]

they dont have behemoths

or artillery

[next onyx]

So what?

[tribal ruin]

french artillery on bf1 was amazing

[next onyx]

We do have Arty in 5 through Squad reinforcements

[brittle forge]

I watched Zack's Gun Rants about Vanguard and it was glorious lol

[proud scarab]

Why are people shitting on BF 1 now? 😂😂😂

[fair rain]

Lol it's sledgehammer, Treyarch and infinity ward

[tribal ruin]

that arty is bad

in bf1 u can PLAY as the arty

bf1 was better

u know why bf5 sucks

THEY DIDNT EVEN ADD D DAY

or stalingrad

[next onyx]

In bf5 it does its job in driving people out, Bf1 was just free kills

Yeah we get it, Game didn't have what you wanted

[tribal ruin]

bf 1 was fun, being killed was fun too

[mental delta]

Lol thanks I thought Activision was a dev studio

[tribal ruin]

being bombed by a dreadnought

felt immersive

[next onyx]

Honestly bf5 kept me hooked all the way due to how much better the gameplay was

[tribal ruin]

ur like

RUNNN FOR COVER!!!

[fair rain]

Activision is the publisher

[tribal ruin]

gameplay is better

HOWEVER

[fair rain]

Hopefully they lose mega bucks on Vanguard, cost most cod fans hated cold war

[tribal ruin]

sniping in bf5 was bad

not because of gameplay

the damage is so fucking lacking on bf5 snipers

[next onyx]

We get it, You want free kills through the sweet spot mechanic

[tribal ruin]

on bf1, sniping can get a ton of 1 shot kills

[tribal ruin]

yes

martini henry felt powerful too with that recoil

[next onyx]

Can't be bothered aiming normally

Snipers are the best they've ever been through 5

[tribal ruin]

a head is a very small thing

[mental delta]

They should make some amphibious map for bf2042 with an aircraft carrier by way of dreadnought

[tribal ruin]

yes

[next onyx]

Considering the fact that suppression doesn't screw your aim, It makes snipers way more enjoyable.

[arctic grove]

they do

[tribal ruin]

they should add an aircraft carrier as a dreadnought

the team gets like 10 f-35s

thats their bonus

[mental delta]

Lol how do u know

[tribal ruin]

suppression should screw ur aim imo

that was one thing i hated most about bf5

no suppression is actually bad

[next onyx]

People unable to fight back is bad?

[tribal ruin]

if ur suppressing yes

[mental delta]

Yes an some land on middle of the map to play as infantry too

[fair rain]

Lmgs need purpose

[vernal harness]

being rewarded for missing your shots? no thanks

[fair rain]

They barely get used

[next onyx]

they do have a purpose

[tribal ruin]

suppressing isnt missing ur shots lmao

[arctic grove]

Vanguard not even out yet and it’s already better than both the beta was fun asl

[next onyx]

In 5 they're more snipey assault rifle

[tribal ruin]

nah i have a mg42 in bf5 and since there is no suppression its a lot easier to take out

[next onyx]

People need their participation trophies

[tribal ruin]

bf1 LMGs WERE WAY better

[fair rain]

That's a literally a fallacy

[vernal harness]

suppression causing bullet spread is insanely bad

[ancient lichen]

Suppression needs to have a bigger visual effect but don’t effect aim

[vernal harness]

its gone for a reason

🙂

[tribal ruin]

fucking m1917 lowweight, 250 rounds on achi baba and go dudududududuud

[fair rain]

Vanguard looks like the worst cod to date

[ancient lichen]

Being hit should cause more flinching tho

[arctic grove]

Cold War wins that trophy

[tribal ruin]

also this

[fair rain]

And I played since WAW/MW1 so I'm not some young idiot

[next onyx]

if there's an mg42 i'll take cover, Then pop out to take them out.

[tribal ruin]

yet in bf5 u can take it out when ur not in cover a lot easier since no suppression

suppression is to combat snipers as well

[next onyx]

If a guy cannot aim they shouldn't be rewarded

[tribal ruin]

a sniper doesnt just continue to look at u when 500 bullets come ur way

[tribal ruin]

"cannot aim"

suppressing is a tactic lmao

[next onyx]

Let's be honestly Jangus, No matter what. Snipers are awful.

[ancient lichen]

I hated shooting and hitting snipers in bfv but then still killing me because there wasn’t like any flinching

[arctic grove]

Sniping fun in BF4

[next onyx]

Yeah and the bullets already tell me to go down - If i can get a sneaky kill on the guy awesome.

[tribal ruin]

bf5 sniping was shit imo, the handling was nice

the lmg gameplay was bad too

the damage was so low

stg44 was nice

[next onyx]

The LMG damage model is standard - Shared with AR's.

[tribal ruin]

m1916 browning felt terrible in the game

it was too slow

[next onyx]

Thing is a laser beam

[tribal ruin]

well that wasnt the problem

the problem was no suppression

[tribal ruin]

do u not try to move ur head down if 100 bullets come ur way

suppressign isnt "missing ur shots"

its a tactic

[vernal harness]

lmgs get to shoot way more bullets than any other gun type

[next onyx]

I move my head down and out of the way depending upon the distance

[vernal harness]

suppression sucks and should stay gone

[tribal ruin]

then play cod

[ancient lichen]

Any somewhat accurate fire should suppress and make vision go brr

[next onyx]

If anything, More tunnel vision would be nice.

[vernal harness]

what a stupid reply

how about i play 2042 which wont have dumb suppression instead

🙂

[next onyx]

Something that doesn't fuck with your ability to shoot is alright

[ancient lichen]

Yeah

Make vision die

[next onyx]

Not entirely

[ancient lichen]

But keep aiming the same

No not entirely

[next onyx]

Infact bf5's tunnel vision isn't too bad

[carmine mulch]

Gun go pew pew

[next onyx]

When caused by suppression

[tribal ruin]

also

bf 2042 is using EAC right

bec there is literally none

[ancient lichen]

Same tbh

[vernal harness]

they actually made it less effective in bfv

it used to stop healing regen

now it doesnt 🙂

[next onyx]

It stops regen from the medic crates

Which i'm glad they buffed

[vernal harness]

i mean the auto heal everyone has

self heal**

[next onyx]

I don't remember that being cut out to be honest

Yeah i was adding onto that

[tribal ruin]

u know gonna be op

shields + stationary guns

[next onyx]

We already have them in 5

[tribal ruin]

shields?

[next onyx]

They have a frontal shield

Face shield

[tribal ruin]

not what i meatn

riot shield

[arctic grove]

Ehhh Boris turret look kinda weak

[tribal ruin]

true

[vernal harness]

yeah im not impressed by boris

[next onyx]

I'm looking forward to dropping the turret onto a tank but i'm not gonna use him

[buoyant nimbus]

it's a deterrent

[tribal ruin]

casper looks the best

[next onyx]

Mackay looks fun

[buoyant nimbus]

not for getting you free kills

[tribal ruin]

ngl

bf 2042 looks like a good gameplay for a cops n robbers game

[arctic grove]

Plus the fact that there adding emp grenades and specialist related to hacking technology abilities like drones r gonna get fucked

[tribal ruin]

they should add hardline revamp to portal

[vital cloud]

+but i crumble completely when you cry

[arctic grove]

Or turrets

Rao so far is biggest counter to technology

[next onyx]

I'm curious how they're going to balance Emp's on vehicles

Cause back at 2142 they completely shut the vehicle down

for a limited amount of time

[arctic grove]

Maybe UI will glitch and mess up like crazy

Like the blackout from MW2

[next onyx]

3 seconds for a hard off and another 3 for them to regain their functions entirely - Emp grenades and mines had a smaller duration.

[arctic grove]

Or was it 3

[next onyx]

Who knows

You mean the EMP?

[arctic grove]

Ye

[vernal harness]

everything with that wifi symbol is gonna get scrambled

even scopes maybe

[topaz lintel]

Speaking of which, does BF2142 still hold up today? I'm thinking of adding a boxed copy of it to my collection.

[next onyx]

I haven't played 2142 unfortunately - But it looks to be a lot of fun