battlefield-2042

[tender dove]

[real tundra]

nice, I'm still debating whether to spend the extra 20$ on ultimate for the bundle

[shadow imp]

He got banned

[gleaming moat]

thank you good sir

[arctic grove]

Based

[solid ivy]

I need it for both editions on console

[gleaming moat]

who Rony? lets goooo

[timid merlin]

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finally

[shadow imp]

Ye

[solid ivy]

I need it for both editions on console

[proven chasm]

And I have a passport and I’m American so I can literally buy your currceny and say Im from where you are

[primal current]

chompy skin for dog when

[gleaming moat]

on release

[mental delta]

Lol totally deserved

[stone epoch]

That dinosaur has seen some shit

[timid merlin]

They banned. Let's enjoy the peace.

[primal current]

what america tho

[gleaming moat]

7 weeks to go to release

[solid ivy]

We need a chompy reaction

or emoji

[gleaming moat]

yes please

[arctic grove]

We need dino mode

[primal current]

how do we not have one

[mental delta]

[primal current]

hazard mode is time travel mode

[solid ivy]

Chompy

Chompy

Chompy

[mental delta]

Stop making me dream

[arctic grove]

The Hazard should just be trexes

[tame cobalt]

[timid merlin]

hopefully chompy is in beta

[gleaming moat]

can a mod or dev pls answer this (or anyone else) - Can we buy Year 1 Pass after release?

[primal current]

i would hope so

would be really nice

[mental delta]

Yeah I think

[gleaming moat]

thank god

Don't really care to get early access

[solid ivy]

I think thats the whole point. YOu can get it at launch or later on if no preorder

[stone epoch]

You think they wouldn’t let you spend more money?

[tame cobalt]

You can prob upgrade to gold

[gleaming moat]

lol

I see no upgrade only buying the whole copy again

[arctic grove]

Dice after taking the time to create a dino mode

[primal current]

casually put dinos in portal

[mental delta]

What is your pfp

[tame cobalt]

Well, after launch i think

[stone epoch]

I want a dinosaur vs titan mode

[raven cloud]

is doing a pre order worth it?

[tame cobalt]

Maybe

[solid ivy]

Lucifer Morningstar

[austere raven]

I only got preorder for beta ngl

[gleaming moat]

oh dope Freeman streaming rn

[raven cloud]

i mean we already have the system specs

[austere raven]

I don't do anything so imma just have more time to enjoy

[mental delta]

I want penguins against Russian tankers but we don't always get what we want

[mental delta]

Ok thanks

[primal current]

i never finished that show

[stone epoch]

Okay mr buzzkiil lol

[solid ivy]

The show started off good, then died over on Netflix

[primal current]

did it not start on netflix

[mental delta]

Yeah I heard that wasn't so good anymore

[solid ivy]

No it started on prime and got cancelled

Lucifer becomes god end of latest season

[tame cobalt]

Netflix, the killer of shows

[austere raven]

Nice

So like

[mental delta]

Penguins + c4 = you win the game by procuration

[gleaming moat]

no one know about Mr Robot?

[austere raven]

He becomes opposite hell

[gleaming moat]

i remember it was on netflix once

[solid ivy]

banger mate

[austere raven]

That was good

[gleaming moat]

masterpiece

[tame cobalt]

mr robot is fantastic

[mental delta]

Lol who the fuck is that

[gleaming moat]

A SHOW

[austere raven]

A show

[hearty kiln]

[mental delta]

Ho the TV show

With Rami Malek

[solid ivy]

yeah

[gleaming moat]

shame Netflix dumped it

[austere raven]

Yes

[gleaming moat]

big up amazon prime

[solid ivy]

prime

[tame cobalt]

i might watch money heist

[stone epoch]

For a second I thought y’all were talking about iRobot and was wondering what y’all were smoking lol

[gleaming moat]

lol

[mental delta]

Prime better than Amazon

[solid ivy]

1st and 2nd season good, rest are quite dragged out

[mental delta]

I watched the entire south park series and I don't own a brain anymore

[gleaming moat]

lol

I'm finishing Shameless US rn

pretty good show

[solid ivy]

the black friday/game of thrones console wars one was the best

[waxen turret]

Guys, any beta news?

[gleaming moat]

nope

already got it lol

[austere raven]

Its the 6th

[solid ivy]

yet another knockoff of a UK one

[austere raven]

And they 8th or whatever

[gleaming moat]

idm

still good

[waxen turret]

Thx

[tame cobalt]

[solid ivy]

UK shows get murdered by the US

[mental delta]

I watched it for the third time 4 days ago and still fun as hell yeah

[austere raven]

The 6th for preorder

[tame cobalt]

You didn't see the beta trailer?

[gleaming moat]

nahhh it's not like americans watch the UK version anyway might aswell make one for them

and they're good shows anyway

[arctic grove]

ae

[gleaming moat]

ae

[austere raven]

Ae

[solid ivy]

I don't mind things like the office US, where they took a shit show and made it good, but when they just make terrible versions I can't stand it

[mental delta]

Is Squid Game a good show ?

[solid ivy]

Brutal

[buoyant nimbus]

i liked the UK office (american)

[gleaming moat]

idk about the terrible ones but I know for sure that The Office US and Shameless US are good

pls no spoilers for Squid Game or i cri

[mental delta]

Lol sounds cool

[solid ivy]

Its not bad, its just really dated

[tame cobalt]

yeah squid game is brutal lmao, not sure if I'll finish it

[austere raven]

Wdym brutal

[gleaming moat]

just a bit depressing isn't it

[solid ivy]

Also really accurate to british office work

[mental delta]

Your pfp disturbs me a lot

[austere raven]

Good

[mental delta]

Not good

[solid ivy]

It is pretty sus...

[austere raven]

Yea

[mental delta]

If that's you I would run away 60 miles away by seeing you in the street

[gleaming moat]

dang burn

[mental delta]

I joke obviously

Don't ban me pls

[solid ivy]

what rock were you under a year ago

[tame cobalt]

It's about ppl trapped in a game show where they get murdered if they fail a game

[gleaming moat]

lol

[austere raven]

Sounds epic

[mental delta]

?

[tame cobalt]

It's pretty dark

[solid ivy]

'twas just a meme, mi'lady, of a yesteryear.

[tame cobalt]

But yeah it's good

[mental delta]

Ho ok

[solid ivy]

honestly so glad it died it was not funny

It became the new momo

[mental delta]

Lol the mem you talk about ?

Momo what is that?

[solid ivy]

yeah

[solid ivy]

Where you from? did it not reach you?

[mental delta]

I know momo the guy who delivers you pizza and sells weed but I'm pretty sure you are not talking about this guy

[tame cobalt]

Jerma sus was a year ago?

[hearty kiln]

Ugandan knuckles was like 2 years ago now

[solid ivy]

look it up. Some pretty gnarly stuff going on underneath the meme

[mental delta]

France

[solid ivy]

je parle une petit du francais

[tame cobalt]

"I speak a little french" ?

[mental delta]

Lol good my dude

[solid ivy]

GCSE french coming in clutch

[hearty kiln]

I dont even speak french and I understood that lol so many conjugates

[mental delta]

Isn't momo a strange white creature with long nose

[mental delta]

GCSE ?

[gleaming moat]

British exams

[tame cobalt]

Was my translation correct?

[solid ivy]

yeah, it was used as a cover for on of those whatsapp group dare things

[shadow summit]

So whats going on, beta only 2 days but 4 days for people with gamepass ultimate?

[solid ivy]

yeah, well done

[tame cobalt]

Poggies

[stone epoch]

Ea access but if you have game pass you have that

[mental delta]

Ho ok I see what you are talking about

[stone epoch]

Or if you preorder the game

[mental delta]

Good luck

[solid ivy]

Nah, did it almost two years ago now

Scraped a pass

[mental delta]

Lmao ok I'm bit late

[shadow summit]

yall saw the system requriement?

[gleaming moat]

yh kill me

[broken nacelle]

4 days for people that preorder or that have ea play

[mental delta]

Lol good

[shadow summit]

i guess consoles laughing at pc players when they saw recommended requiring a 3080 gpu

[solid ivy]

No offence to the entirety of france, but I dropped it as soon as I could

[hearty kiln]

Lot of ppl mad about reqs lol

[broken nacelle]

3060

[gleaming moat]

rightly so

[tranquil kettle]

3060

[mental delta]

Lol I understand this a hard language to learn

[tranquil kettle]

and also pc has better graphics

[shadow summit]

i wonder if thats just ea being fucking lazy and didnt optimize the game

[tranquil kettle]

i mean pc always will have better graphics

[hearty kiln]

My pc probably couldn't run it so I'm being a console cuck still

[shadow summit]

so they put up ridiculous req

[mental delta]

With a ton of pronouns and different grammatical finitions

[tranquil kettle]

its not ridiculous

a 3060 is basically a 2070

[solid ivy]

Just not great at languages, Maths, physics and chemistry A-level for me

[tame cobalt]

When i see recommended 3060 i think, is it gonna look shite on ps5?

[tranquil kettle]

for bfv it was a 1070

[tranquil kettle]

nah they will cut a lot on effexts orobably

probably

[stone epoch]

So many numbers

[shadow summit]

only if ur pc can handle it lol, ur $500 pc wont be able to run rtx but this ps5 can lol

[tranquil kettle]

and texture resolution

[solid ivy]

I couldn't handle the random gendering of objects

[tranquil kettle]

i mean who cares about rtx

only cuts fps in half

[mental delta]

Like we have 6 mods of conjugation and each mod has 2 types of mods

[tender dove]

rtx is like the most useless shit I've ever seen in my life

[mental delta]

Whochc means we have literally 12 fucking different times to talk lmao

[dusk frigate]

i beg this game has good performance

[shadow summit]

yea and u do realize majority of the player base has gpus dating back from 1080 and even 970s

[solid ivy]

je vais, tu vas, il va, elle va, nous allons, vous allez, ils ont, elles ont

[tame cobalt]

raytracing comes in clutch in spider-man on ps5 ngl

[tranquil kettle]

i mean a 1080 its not bad at all

and its above minimum

[mental delta]

Lol I'm the opposite of you I'm dumb for maths but can handle with languages

[tranquil kettle]

3060 is not that high

[shadow summit]

point is, their console are becoming closer to pc in terms of graphics and fps

[tranquil kettle]

considering with bfv it was a 1070

second most poweruk gpu

on the market

at thr time

(2018)

[solid ivy]

Still doesn't mean I'm good at them 😢

[shadow summit]

wait i thought 1080 came out at 2016

[tranquil kettle]

nah their rtx is at 30fps

[tame cobalt]

since the entire city is reflective, the game really benefits from RT, and that 60fps RT mode is chef's kiss

[mental delta]

Lol gender in french is basically the worst shit you have to learn, I can't imagine how hard it is to learn for non-speakers French

[tranquil kettle]

and all games have lower res textures

compared to pc

and on pc i can do my work

on console i cant

[solid ivy]

It's just a lot of guessing

[shadow summit]

while ur $500 pc rtx is 2fps lol

[mental delta]

0 errors I give you a medal dude

[tranquil kettle]

i mean on a pc you can stil work ig

[stone epoch]

Fucks sake not this shit again lol

[tranquil kettle]

i have a 3090 though

so idc about consoles

[shadow summit]

i mean having a 2nd monitor vs having a laptop or phone on ur hand isnt really any different lol

[tame cobalt]

Spider-man and ratchet is 60fps RT

[gleaming moat]

Even Watch Dogs Legion on PS5 ran 30FPS + RTX

[mental delta]

Lol being good at maths and physics is better than being good at languages trust me

[solid ivy]

I swear we had a war last night abt this?

[tranquil kettle]

not what i meant

i meant using a console vs pc for work

[shadow summit]

the only thing pc has to offer nowadays is exclusive games like eft,arma,etc.. and modding support.

[tranquil kettle]

i can do 200 fps in rt

so what

[shadow summit]

u play games while ur at work?

[solar moss]

i wish console had arma and more milsims/tactical shooters

[tranquil kettle]

and also in 4k

[gleaming moat]

also not gaming things lol

[solar moss]

im glad hell let loose is coming soon

[broken nacelle]

I have a 2060 I think I will be fine just gotta lower the graphics a little

[tame cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/its-time-to-move-forward-moving-forward-road-gif-16546951

[tranquil kettle]

sometimes i keep shit running on my second monitor

[stone epoch]

I miss the old ghost recon games

[mental delta]

Lol in french you can literally insult a girl by calling her with a Male pronoun and inversion

[warped pulsar]

DLSS is the future

[solid ivy]

And how much money have you sunk into that?

[hearty kiln]

I dont visually notice much difference between 60 and over 60 fps, but the difference between 30 and 60 is might and day

[shadow summit]

ya pc has its luxury but were talking about gaming in general

[tranquil kettle]

idk tbh

[solar moss]

thats the same as any language with gendered language which is like 90% of them

[solid ivy]

ALso there it now word for "It".

[solar moss]

also what constitutes acceptable French is literally decided by a bunch of old white fossils in some random office in Paris lol

[tame cobalt]

ok

[tranquil kettle]

and also the thing is, a console cant run most of the software that can run on linux

[shadow summit]

yeah "sandbox" experience. But im saying console is coming closer and closer to what pc can offer in gaming

[tame cobalt]

[gleaming moat]

yeah but other factors come in, can multitask, less dependency on services, no online subscription, supports VR and multi-monitors

[solid ivy]

meanwhile I'm sitting here with £300 in series S and peripherals

[tranquil kettle]

sure but a pc still had mods

and not all games can rub on console

run*

[mental delta]

Yeah but you can also do it by not using the pronoun but only changing the finition of the word which is make a way more classy than using the pronoun lol

[shadow summit]

yea ik, i was surprised when i was playing cod and this guy was shock to hear that we pc users dont have to pay to play online 🤣

[tame cobalt]

and not all games can run on pc

Next topic

[shadow summit]

yea thats what i said earlier lol

[tranquil kettle]

ps will add all exclusives to pc actually

[solid ivy]

I suppose, you need a PC for games like KSP where there is just too many buttons needed at once

[tranquil kettle]

in 2 years from release

[gleaming moat]

Ok, no matter what, a PS5 has better value and performance for $500 BUT, beyond gaming, it's trash, you pay for the other $1000 in PS Plus over 7 years until the next gen

[hearty kiln]

Yeah like bloodborne lol dont hold ur bteath

[tranquil kettle]

also on ps you need to pay for online

[shadow summit]

but bf2042 system req is still ridiculous and console players are laughing at pc players for it

[solid ivy]

What PS5 you getting for £500?

[royal swan]

im back are the toxic idiots gone

[mental delta]

Yes there are a lot of word to translate one single word

[arctic grove]

the disk version

[gleaming moat]

my own lol, curry'a had their site bugged for 5 hours easy bag

[tame cobalt]

Yes but platform debate has started again

[broken nacelle]

True but the thing I like more about pc is that you have more control in your game setting and mods too

[solar moss]

7 years of ps plus is about 450 dollars at most?

[shadow summit]

people still struggling to buy on stock consoles?

[tranquil kettle]

i mean they re not laughing at all, why? because if i set the same settings the ps5 has it probably only needs a 2060/2070

[royal swan]

god damit

[gleaming moat]

then they still make profits

[solar moss]

yeah thats the point

[tranquil kettle]

and that said the ps5 is locked at 60 fps

[solar moss]

consoles are sold at a loss for a reason

[tender dove]

can you guys stfu bout platform

[tranquil kettle]

or at max 120

[tender dove]

ffs

[solid ivy]

You still cannot get one first hand still

[tranquil kettle]

even my 1070 can get more fps

[tender dove]

literal virgins

[arctic grove]

nobody’s gonna do any convincing to anyone here so just sit back and enjoy the ride

[gleaming moat]

because they make their money back in subscriptions and store fees

[hearty kiln]

I cant tell much of a difference between 60 and 120

[mental delta]

It is almost the price of the console that's a lot

[shadow summit]

ur the minority, like i said, not everyone has 2000s series.. majority of pc players are still using 1080s-970s..

[royal swan]

unless a mod comes

[tranquil kettle]

60 hz screen

thats why

[solid ivy]

still less than a PC

[tranquil kettle]

or 1060

according to steam

hardware survey

[hearty kiln]

Nah I've seen 244 hz and it's not the same improvement as going from 30 to 60, only slightly better imo

[mental delta]

Yeah but you can do whatever you want with a good pc

[stone epoch]

I love watching a bunch of grown men get pissy and defensive about their toys

[solid ivy]

fair

[stone epoch]

It entertains me

[shadow summit]

Yea thats why im saying, ea prolly were just lazy to optimize the game for pc

thats why they put up those crazy requirments

[tranquil kettle]

i mean yeah you can even upgrade it

[solid ivy]

I like provoking the PC master race into defending their RGB obelisks

[broken nacelle]

There is definitely a difference haven’t played my ps in a while I booted up assassins creed I could tell it was much worse FPS

[hearty kiln]

I mean I have console and pc lol the tech comparison is interesting

[tranquil kettle]

tbh bf games are pretty well optimized

[shadow summit]

pc is like andriod, console is iphone

[arctic grove]

it’s very interesting to see each side fail to convince the other why their platform is better for the 999999th time

[amber panther]

imagine having 30fps lock again in open beta 😆

[gleaming moat]

nope, if you buy yearly PS Plus for £50 until the PS6 comes out you'll have spent around £4k
12 months, times 7 (years) = 84 months
84 months * £50 = £4200

it will eventually turn out crazy expensive

[broken nacelle]

Imagine the specs are for 1080 30fps

[gleaming moat]

on top of games

[tranquil kettle]

thats a lot of money for somethinf you get for free on pc

[solid ivy]

glad i'm Xbox

[tranquil kettle]

but alright

[shadow summit]

im talking about the beta were getting

[arctic grove]

soon is right tho it’s almost like 1k after about 7 years buying ps plus at the LOWEST price

[gleaming moat]

same thing tbh just roughly 3k instead

[hearty kiln]

60 a year, not a month lmao

[arctic grove]

but it’s not really gonna be cheap stuff adds up

[gleaming moat]

UK prices

[stone epoch]

Oh yeah I love how it always devolves into insults lol

[gleaming moat]

or have they changed?

[tranquil kettle]

i mean yeah

[shadow summit]

bf2042 is prolly unoptimized hence the crazy system requirements. Its kinda sneaky of them to get away with it lol

[gleaming moat]

oh shit

[tranquil kettle]

60 a month is way too much

[fresh mango]

yoo

[gleaming moat]

i miscalculated yes I forgot it's per year

[broken nacelle]

Hopefully it’s not as bad as cyberpunk

[gleaming moat]

yeah that comes out to 420 instead

[hearty kiln]

Lmao

[real tundra]

perfect

[gleaming moat]

so you'd still be getting it for less a bit

[proven chasm]

Squid game

[hearty kiln]

You get free games every month too

[hidden sand]

If we have to pay for PS Plus to play with bots I'm gonna be so disappointed lol
You don't have to pay for it in Battlefront 2 when you play with bots so I have some hope

[gleaming moat]

pfft they're trash

[real tundra]

im watching that rn lmao @proven chasm

[gleaming moat]

it used to be like 5 games then only 2 now 3

[hearty kiln]

I would have never bought some of the games and they ended up being awesome. Hollow knight for example

[shadow summit]

console players has to pay to play online, pc players only needs internet to play online

/s

[broken nacelle]

Squid game was really good

[amber canopy]

Is it actually i wanna watch it tonight lol

[broken nacelle]

Pc players have more control over their game settings

[solid ivy]

Ok thats enough argument for one night

[broken nacelle]

Yea I enjoyed it

[gleaming moat]

and their aiming

[amber canopy]

Nice

[arctic grove]

small price to pay for receiving sufficient hardware to play modern games at 60fps. everything has a price, now you do you my friend

[tranquil kettle]

and also settings

[shadow summit]

are u guys kdrama fans too or squid game reminds u guys of bm?

[arctic grove]

at a significantly lower price

[solid ivy]

Is there FOV for console?

[broken nacelle]

Also mods on pc

[hearty kiln]

Way more cheating/botting on PC from what I've seen

[tranquil kettle]

do you actually?

[shadow summit]

yes lol

[tranquil kettle]

like i played ac games many times

[royal swan]

PC players have multiple PCs to choose from with different computer systems, console does not

[tranquil kettle]

without it

[hearty kiln]

Mods are a huge plus though for single player

[tranquil kettle]

what games dude?

[shadow summit]

i think they introduced it on ps4,

[gleaming moat]

he means multiplayer

[solid ivy]

Console FOV slider?

anyone

[tranquil kettle]

does it even exist?

[broken nacelle]

Probably not

[hidden sand]

I would rather lose out on free games than have to pay for online
Really despise ps plus

[arctic grove]

some games have it

cw has a fov slider

[solid ivy]

IDK, im asking

[stone epoch]

Yes a ton of games have Fov sliders for consoles now a days

[gleaming moat]

if they combined PS Plus with PS Now I'd like it more

[broken nacelle]

I have never played a shooter on console that has fov

[tranquil kettle]

its so sad that console players have to pay for online like sony really does like money

[solid ivy]

minecraft?

[shadow summit]

nahh, its just corpo having ur nuts grab and being able to put out what they can.. ps3 never had to play online.. they just saw the amount of $$ xbox was making with it so they followed them lol

[tranquil kettle]

shooter

[gleaming moat]

oh shit

I completely forgot

[hidden sand]

Yeah, I shouldn't have to pay to access internet I already pay for

[tight escarp]

Holy shit bro you’ve been in the chat for 6 hours at least

[tranquil kettle]

exactly

[gleaming moat]

You need to pay $70 for PS5 games 😂

major loss

[royal swan]

the bow is a shooting weapon in Minecraft

[tranquil kettle]

and xbox is gonna need the online to play bf 2043 beta

[arctic grove]

lol yea I check it every now and then

[tranquil kettle]

according to leakers

not confirmed

[broken nacelle]

Minecraft is not a shooter

[shadow summit]

its why we need dedicated servers, we know how dogshit anti cheat is, the best anti cheat is the admins in the server perm banning ur account

its why bf4 has less cheaters imo

[tight escarp]

It’s as god at confirmed, you typically need online for xboc

Good

[modern basin]

And also less skilled players

[royal swan]

But you can shoot a bow in Minecraft

[solid ivy]

minecraft is a harrowing tale of a person fighting his dragons and overcoming addiction. It's the most hardcore shooter of all time

[shadow summit]

????

[tranquil kettle]

thats stupid imo

[modern basin]

Admins ban really skilled players because they think they’re cheating

You don’t even have to be skilled

[stone epoch]

You’re just joining shitty servers

[tight escarp]

It’s whatever but stupid yes

[solid ivy]

or attack helicopter fuckboys

[modern basin]

You just have to kill them right after they get in their favorite vehicle

[arctic grove]

yea gotta stick to the official ones

[stone epoch]

You find the servers you like and stick with them

[shadow summit]

ok sounds like u need to talk to the admin about that, not me lol

[modern basin]

Lmao nice joke

Ok that was rude my bad

[shadow summit]

or maybe u just joined a very elitist server, which i dont see a reason why u would even play there

[tranquil kettle]

like you already cant do anything other than playing games and you have to pay to play them onlinr

and you cant upgrade the hardware

(only the ssd)

[hearty kiln]

Yeah I'd say single player games are just hands down better on PC.

[solid ivy]

Oh my god stop PC is better

[tight escarp]

You can for 800 bucks lmao

[shadow summit]

that the beauty of it tho, its not just 1 server, u can find more servers to play on.. unlike having random matchmaking that puts u with 5 cheaters in every game

[tranquil kettle]

i mean on pcs you can use mods

and reshade filters

so yeah

[arctic grove]

man’s really wants console players to bow down to pc

[tranquil kettle]

bruh

[modern basin]

You don’t need to be in a dictatorship admin server either. You could just be simply good and people will vote to kick you out in the server discord

[solid ivy]

AS a console player, PCs are better

[gleaming moat]

you keep mentioning mods yet I rarely use them and is most likely not that popular

[solid ivy]

but Im not spending £4k on a good setup

[royal swan]

AS a console player and a PC player, This argument is shit

[tight escarp]

As a xbox player that’s been playing xbox since halo 2 i don’t really care about graphics i just want to have fun dude

[tranquil kettle]

i mean nexusmods exists and its what kept battlefront 2 alive

like literally

[gleaming moat]

Only reason I chose PC is to play Mouse and Keyboard whilst I watch youtube

[tranquil kettle]

there are 1000s of mods

for that game

[tight escarp]

Some of the best games Ive played looked like a turd

[solid ivy]

K bye

[arctic grove]

consoles are a lot cheaper for the same hardware that’ll let you run modern games at 60fps, what do u think of that revan ?

im genuinely curious

[stone epoch]

Holy shit nobody cares

[arctic grove]

[tranquil kettle]

bruh

if you like consoles then use them

ig

[royal swan]

mobile is supreme

[gleaming moat]

sell PS5 / PC for £500
buy RTX 3060 preubuilt for £1500
have fun
sell GPU for £500
buy new GPU when it comes out for £500

[arctic grove]

there you go that’s all we ever had to mention when this discussion came up

[tranquil kettle]

i honestly dont like playing at 60fps

so yeah

[shadow summit]

how would u feel if ur games gets dumbed down because ur consoles werent meeting the proper standards to run properly, but pc can without any need of changes. PC players suffer because companies needs to lower their games to fit the consoles requirements lol

[tight escarp]

I’m broke

Ever think of that

[shadow summit]

only if ur a whale who loves to p2w lol

[gleaming moat]

wtf

[tranquil kettle]

if you sell a 3060 for 500 pounds you re dumb

gpus are so expensive rn

thanks to chio shortage

[gleaming moat]

msrp is fucking 300 and I can buy a 3060 for 500 rn

[tranquil kettle]

chip

[tranquil kettle]

i mean official store... or scammy facebook ad

[gleaming moat]

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/palit-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-stormx-12gb-gddr6-ray-tracing-graphics-card-3584-core-1320mhz-gpu-1777

[shadow summit]

not hating on consoles but thats just how pc experience are lol.. every game release it has something tied to having company cater to consoles

[modern basin]

Fuck console wars the Wii U is supreme

[gleaming moat]

day before yesterday there were also some other 3060s in stock

and they restock alot

[royal swan]

Only if you are a dumbass, you got to use the organ in the head to find the gem games

[tranquil kettle]

honestly i only check newegg or amazon

[modern basin]

^

[gleaming moat]

ur own mistake

[tight escarp]

🥛

[tranquil kettle]

but idc a lot about 3060s

tbh

[gleaming moat]

3060ti for 669 and a free mouse
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-gaming-z-trio-lhr-8gb-gddr6-ray-tracing-graphics-card-4864-core-1410m

[modern basin]

🍿watching the console war

[shadow summit]

i mean those whales swipe because they got $$$ lol

[tranquil kettle]

alright ig

[iron blade]

hey pass me some of dat shit

[modern basin]

🍿Here ya go, have a brand new bag!

[royal swan]

Chris Pratt as Mario, I'm fucking done.

[iron blade]

thx mate!

[broken nacelle]

Popcorn rp

[tranquil kettle]

i mean there s no point in console war, they re both same basically

[arctic grove]

yep

[hearty kiln]

Theres no reason to own an xbox as everything goes to pc anyway from there

[stone epoch]

Keegan Micheal Key as toad sounds hilarious tbh

[broken nacelle]

The one thing that console has that I want is ghost of Tsushima

[royal swan]

It's going to be fucking Gold

[wide shore]

There is though. People like having consoles

[tender dove]

basically

even though the xbox is a tiny bit better

[arctic grove]

it’s all about preference

[wide shore]

I use my Xbox for third party titles. And my PS for exclusives & VR

[tender dove]

but who tf cares

[tranquil kettle]

sure better hardware but you gotta pay even to play fb 2042 beta

[tender dove]

buy whatever you like

[broken nacelle]

I would rather have the ps better exclusives

[tender dove]

if you got friends who are mostly on xbox

[tranquil kettle]

indeed

[tender dove]

go for xbox

[glad ether]

Not really, they’re all similar

[naive trellis]

I mean, it's easier carrying a playstation over to a friend's house for a lan party than it would be to carry 20kg's of PC haha

[tender dove]

if you got friends who are mostly on ps, go for ps

[tranquil kettle]

also exclusives will come to xbox and pc

[tender dove]

ok

[glad ether]

Ohhh

[tender dove]

shut up

[tranquil kettle]

after 1-2 years after release

[glad ether]

What?

[arctic grove]

yep portability too

[broken nacelle]

Yep I have a pc so no point to get an xbox

[glad ether]

What did I even say

Wrong

[arctic grove]

get a console over a gaming laptop cuz the laptop will prob melt )joke)

[glad ether]

/:

[solar moss]

never get a lenovo laptop

piece of life advice

they have really really bad cooling and come preinstalled with so much bloatware

[tranquil kettle]

i mean all gaming laptops get very hot

only way to fix it clean it

[solar moss]

this isnt just gaming laptops

[hearty kiln]

Lol gaming laptops

[tranquil kettle]

replace thermal paste

[solar moss]

never get a lenovo laptop PERIOD

[tranquil kettle]

and pads

[solar moss]

ever

[tranquil kettle]

and undervolt it

[solar moss]

no lenovo

[glad ether]

I’m not a fan of gaming laptops

[naive trellis]

Had a ROG Scar 2 once, after a few months it always sat at around 89°C

[glad ether]

Sheesh

[tranquil kettle]

clean it perhaps

open it and clean the fans

[glad ether]

By the way nice badge beside your name

[naive trellis]

Warranty

[glad ether]

It’s cool how they did that

[solar moss]

did you get a sense of pride and satisfaction from the overheating 😳?

[tranquil kettle]

dude what?

warranty for a dirty pc?

[glad ether]

I’m pretty sure he’s talking about a warrant

[naive trellis]

I can't since it'd void my warranty.

[glad ether]

Well I don’t know why

[tranquil kettle]

there s no way it will

[obtuse laurel]

[broken nacelle]

You can’t clean it?

[solar moss]

some laptops have like, little seals that void the warranty when theyre broken

when you open the back

[hardy kestrel]

Really love the beta trailer music. Thought that was on point.

[tranquil kettle]

and also how are they supposed to known you cleaned it

its literally removing screws

[solar moss]

theres usually a sticker/seal

in the back

[tranquil kettle]

and putting them back in

[solar moss]

that breaks if you open the back

[naive trellis]

This. Also blue paint on the screws

[solar moss]

or like a litmus test thingy

[tranquil kettle]

what?

[glad ether]

@naive trellis you got a really nice banner

[tranquil kettle]

what kind of laptop

tf

[solar moss]

so many kinds

[glad ether]

Lol

[arctic grove]

a lot of devices have that type of warranty

[tranquil kettle]

i have a hp omen 17

never happened to me

[solar moss]

yeah HP dont but other manufacturers do

[naive trellis]

I had an ROG GL504GV

[obtuse laurel]

there is a sticker or something that if removed or broken for any reason the warranty is void

[naive trellis]

It had a lot of warranty seals, sadly.

[solar moss]

if you buy your laptop from a tech vendor who provides their own warranty they can clean it for you under warranty

[glad ether]

Are these laptops or gaming pcs?

They don’t sound like laptops lol

[broken nacelle]

I built my pc before the pc dark times

[naive trellis]

Only thing I could do was add an ssd and ram

[tranquil kettle]

i mean yeah thats also on my ssd and i get that but opening the pc to clean it is a must

[glad ether]

They sound too extreme

[tranquil kettle]

especially on a laptop

[tranquil kettle]

its literally so easy to clean it yourself

[naive trellis]

Laptop, quite weak actually. Mobile 2060 and an i7 8750h with 16gb's of 2666mhz ram.

[obtuse laurel]

yeah but some manufactories either dont think about that or dont care about that

[tranquil kettle]

remove screws, remove fans get canned air

[glad ether]

Dang

[tranquil kettle]

probably dont care

[tranquil kettle]

thats not bad

like wdym weak

[glad ether]

Not horrible at least @naive trellis

[tranquil kettle]

2060 isnt bad

undervolt it and it will be even better

[naive trellis]

40 fps in borderlands 3 haha

[obtuse laurel]

yeah if a manufacture does that they are just trying to get out from paying you for a broken product down the line

[tranquil kettle]

i get 170 fps eith i7 8750h and 1070 mobile on bfv medium low

[naive trellis]

Eh I went to a desktop in the meantime, I didn't need the portability anymore

[solar moss]

the retailer doing it doesnt void the warranty

[tranquil kettle]

changed thermal paste and pads

and undervolted cpu and gpu

[solar moss]

i just turn on my ps5 and play the game and get 60 FPS and keep my life simple

🤷

[tranquil kettle]

also the pc is probably gonna break faster that way, i mean you cant clean the pc

[hearty kiln]

[tranquil kettle]

wich means hotter components

heat isnt good for your pc

[arctic grove]

yessir

[proven chasm]

I met the minimum requirements but just the graphics card didn’t pass recommended.. 🌝

[stone epoch]

Britney’s Free!

[arctic grove]

rip

[glad ether]

By the way, are the battlefield 2042 internal play tests fun?

[naive trellis]

Which is why I slapped 7 fans in my pc, smooth cruising at 56°C under load

[tranquil kettle]

thats so stupid

ngl

[obtuse laurel]

tbh that is the point, forcing you either to take your chances this laptop will last a while and open it or keep it closed and force you hand into buying a new laptop later

[hearty kiln]

Ps5 ppl play bfv, 1, or 4? I only really play 4 anymore

[proven chasm]

Wow I’m smart I knew what to get

[tender dove]

@naive trellis what do you actually work as in EA?

[tranquil kettle]

lol thats a lot of fans

[obtuse laurel]

it is a scummy practice but it is how manufactures keep sales up

[naive trellis]

Won't really disclose that one, sorry haha

[tender dove]

fair enough

[obtuse laurel]

if i give you one rotato will that change your mind

[arctic grove]

I’m Wilde’s manager don’t worry

[obtuse laurel]

[naive trellis]

What I can say is that I'm working towards making 2042 a success

[hearty kiln]

I'm fully unvaccinated

[tender dove]

prob game dev

[arctic grove]

Oh no

[tender dove]

😎

[obtuse laurel]

there is your rotato

[tender dove]

[arctic grove]

[tender dove]

croatia

[hearty kiln]

Unvaccinated blood 4 sale

[glad ether]

Wait, the battlefield 2042 play tests, are they fun to do

🤓

[tender dove]

-_-

[glad ether]

He’s typing…

[naive trellis]

Can't really talk about anything that wasn't revealed yet, sorry.

[glad ether]

Oh

Ok

[arctic grove]

[opal compass]

NDA is a thing

[tender dove]

it's literally like working on any other project

[glad ether]

I know, I’m just asking if it’s enjoyable lol

Not any info on it

[tender dove]

from person to person

[glad ether]

Just him sayings if it’s fun

[tender dove]

it's stressful

[glad ether]

Fair enough

[solar moss]

@naive trellis do you like Oscar Wilde 😳

[opal compass]

we will know if it is fun in a few days

[tribal wyvern]

6 days

[arctic grove]

No I want to know now or else I’m firing him

[tender dove]

YOOOO WILDE IS IN DEEZ

YOOOOO

[tender dove]

based

[stone epoch]

Can’t wait to see this return

[naive trellis]

Used to read his stuff a bit, I was a kid when I picked this nickname and it stuck with me ever since.

[solar moss]

thats so cool omg

[tribal wyvern]

Hey wilde are there 1st person takedowns in the game too?

[solar moss]

he cant answer that

[tribal wyvern]

Why

[solar moss]

unless its been publically revealed

[glad ether]

I don’t think so

[solar moss]

he cant answer it

unless EA have literally stated that something is in the game

[glad ether]

Only 3rd person😢

[arctic grove]

He works there, NDA

[tribal wyvern]

Ik but it's worth asking innit?

[glad ether]

cod be like: twins?

😞

Hopefully it’s changed

[arctic grove]

Still probably can’t tell you the answer

[glad ether]

But he can’t reveal anything cause it ain’t released @tribal wyvern

[solar moss]

how are they meant to sell cosmetic takedowns in first person

when third person ones are easier to animate and can have bigger variety

[glad ether]

They don’t need to

[tribal wyvern]

He can, he can say can't answer, he's done it several times before

[glad ether]

It’s a cash grab retailation

[solar moss]

yeah but you know theyre going to haha

[maiden crest]

is the ryzen 5 3600 gonna be any good since its the minimum?

[glad ether]

That pfp

😩

Call of Duty: 2042

[tribal wyvern]

Don't trust the reqs, amd reqs do not match the intel ones and recommended gpu is a huge jump from 1050 ti

TLDR wait till beta to see for yourself

[obtuse laurel]

yeah fair

[arctic grove]

Don’t worry my PS5 has a 3090 I’m good

[maiden crest]

thanks just worried cuz they listed 3600 for minimum and thats what i have XD

[arctic grove]

[broken nacelle]

What is the PlayStation 5 graphics card

[glad ether]

No idea

[hearty kiln]

I may try beta on my toaster as well just to see if it runs

[obtuse laurel]

lmao legit i have like all the minimum requirements from their spec list haha

[glad ether]

Alright gotta go do my homework guys, bye

Bye @naive trellis

[arctic grove]

PS5 uses the AMD RDNA2

[modern basin]

Finish it by 2042

[naive trellis]

Don't quote me on this but from what I read it's close to a 2070

[maiden crest]

i mean i have 16gb ram and a 4060 ti thats about all i got to beat the req

[obtuse laurel]

imma just be vibin in here but i gotta write/ write about slavery now fun

[naive trellis]

Cheers!

[broken nacelle]

Hopefully the optimization is better than cyberpunk

[hearty kiln]

[obtuse laurel]

tbh with how much they have been talking about that i hope so as well

[stone epoch]

As long as it isn’t BF4 launch buggy I’ll be happy

[arctic grove]

What would the RDNA2 be similar to?

[high fractal]

Yo guys

[stone epoch]

Sup

[high fractal]

Is eating one meal a day safe?

Like a big meal

[broken nacelle]

No

[light cradle]

Absolutely, I've been doing it for 2 years now

[stone epoch]

Terry Crews does it

So do I but I’m not jacked like he is

[high fractal]

Alright cool I’m broke college student lol

[light cradle]

just make sure you dont have to do any hard phys activity right after eating because you need to digest those 2k calories

[obtuse laurel]

is collage really that expensive in the states?

[high fractal]

Yes!!

[obtuse laurel]

oh heck

[high fractal]

Sounds good !

[obtuse laurel]

right now i am doing university in Australia always heard about being a 'broke collage' always wondered about that

[high fractal]

Colleges here are a corporation. They make millions

[obtuse laurel]

[naive trellis]

Been there, used to eat noodles 3 times a day, if I spent my money wisely.

[low tinsel]

whats the confirmed date again for beta early access? 5th?

[naive trellis]

Well, University was like that.

[obtuse laurel]

oh heck Australian gov allows for HELP which is a debt program for Australian citizen where i go to uni and don't need to pay for class until i start earning 45k annually

[naive trellis]

https://x.ea.com/70479

[obtuse laurel]

we also get youth allowance which is exactly what is sounds like 18 - 22 get money from gov to help with uni if you do no work full time and their is more for after 22 although i do not know what that one is call

[high fractal]

I want to go to australia now

[obtuse laurel]

lmao

[foggy crest]

Germany is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy better

[sturdy kelp]

[obtuse laurel]

I think I have racked dup 4k in debt rn

[broken nacelle]

I want to visit Germany

[high fractal]

I have 30k debt rip

[obtuse laurel]

I can actually put uni trips (like going to New York or Pompeii) on to my HELP debt if I wished but would obvs have to pay it back eventually

[broken nacelle]

Never been to New York it looks overrated

[high fractal]

Haha I live there

[foggy crest]

That's my favourite place on Earth

[topaz hazel]

SIUUUU

[sturdy kelp]

just play The Division...it's a replica of modern-day new york

[broken nacelle]

But I will still visit there at least once to see it

[obtuse laurel]

[foggy crest]

Not really

[broken nacelle]

Only a part of New York

[sturdy kelp]

virus, shootings, mafia

corrupt government

[high fractal]

Lol so true

[obtuse laurel]

[stone epoch]

Bruh I forgot how long operations can be

[solar moss]

supremacy in swbf2 can literally go on forever

[deft storm]

-Arma Players

[obtuse laurel]

[light cradle]

god I need to play this game so bad

lord give me the strength to be patient

[high fractal]

Sameeee

[shadow summit]

wat r u guys looking forward to this beta? for me its to gauge how much gunplay improved from bf4 to 2042

[sturdy kelp]

I'm looking forward to the sigma

[solar moss]

have u played bfv

its not exactly a secret how much it improved if youve played bfv

[light cradle]

I haven't played a BF game since BF3, almost 10 years

[foggy crest]

send some more of these 😂

[stone epoch]

Well I’d hope the gunplay improved 8 years later lmao

[cloud zodiac]

gunplay from the playtest is like bfv + mw2019

very good

[shadow summit]

are u saying its a reskinned of bfv?

[glad ether]

@naive trellis Before I go lol, are the battlefield 2042 stickers able to be saved onto camera roll? Or will it be copy right.

[solar moss]

no, im saying that its on the same engine as bfv and if youve played that it should be pretty obvious what the gunplay is gonna be like

[shadow summit]

how does ww2 guns have the same feel as modern guns tho

[solar moss]

same engine = similar feel

[hollow depot]

have they released minimum specs for 2042 yet? also any news on when beta is?>

[shadow summit]

so ur saying its a reskinned? lol

[solar moss]

theyre obviously gonna feel different but the key similarities in the gunplay will still be there

[cloud zodiac]

think of mw2019

[echo yew]

yeah, just yesterday actually

[solar moss]

i said SIMILAR

stop shoving words down my throat

[cloud zodiac]

thats how it feels like

[tender dove]

Saddiq

God, Syria and Bashar

[high fractal]

@shadow summit The gunplay will be completely different from bf4. No random bullet spread

[cloud zodiac]

no one bothers to check #game-news lol

[obtuse laurel]

tbh i dont know how many i could send at once before either a mod or a bot gets angy with me

[hollow depot]

@echo yew so when is betga?

[echo yew]

oct 6 early access

[foggy crest]

I don't know why it's soo satisfying 🤣

[echo yew]

oct 8 for everyone else

[obtuse laurel]

[naive trellis]

As long as you don't overdo it I think you're fine.

Not my call though.

[foggy crest]

Yeah they banned me once because of 7-8 laughing emoji in a line

[hollow depot]

okay good. I don't wanna buy if it runs like shit during beta been waiting forever

[obtuse laurel]

heck i have a lot more than that in rotatos

[high fractal]

Fingers crossed they extend the beta

[cloud zodiac]

highly likely

why end on a saturday

[foggy crest]

thanks man 👍

[high fractal]

Exactly Saturday such a wierd day to end

[obtuse laurel]

want me to dm you with them?

[cloud zodiac]

probably gonna extend it to make the community happy yk

under promise and over deliver

[obtuse laurel]

tbh this beta comes out in an eh time for me i have a essay due on the 8th and then another the next week on the 15th

[foggy crest]

yesss

[nova glen]

Hey I think I asked it before once

I just want to know if I've missed any changes

Except skins, base game offers all of the gameplay right?

[versed python]

*muted, if you were banned, you wouldn't be on the server.

[obtuse laurel]

can i show off my rotatos?

[versed python]

What?

[obtuse laurel]

[foggy crest]

yeah yeah hydra

[obtuse laurel]

did i stutter

[versed python]

No, you said something that isn't english.

[obtuse laurel]

i wanna show off my rotatos

[glad ether]

😐

How’s life guys

@versed python question is it possible to save the stickers to our camera roll

Battlefield 2042 ones

Or is it like copyright

[versed python]

I am not sure what that is, but if you want to get an attitude about something, then it's best to leave it be.

[glad ether]

For ex

[glad ether]

It’s so cool):

[versed python]

I have no idea, sorry. I don't fiddle with them to be honest.

[open pollen]

!beta

?beta

[glad ether]

Oh

[versed python]

#game-news

[open pollen]

Thanks sorry

[versed python]

No worries.

[obtuse laurel]

okay then i shall be quiet then

[open pollen]

I’m so stocked I’m preloading the second I can tueesyda

[versed python]

Same.

[glad ether]

Hey I made application form to become a mod, how long do they usually take to answer your application.

[versed python]

There is no time limit.

[glad ether]

I did it earlier today

[glad ether]

Oh? What do you mean?

[stone epoch]

Means no

[versed python]

It's indefinite. If you're selected, you'll receive notification. Please understand that we receive hundreds of applications, so there is a queue since they're reviewed manually.

[glad ether]

Ohhhh

Thanks for letting me know

[versed python]

No worries.

[tender dove]

🏗️

[shadow summit]

was this ur initial feeling when u played alpha?

if so then thats promising, i enjoyed mw19 gunplay

just hope its a little more weighty feel than mw19

[shadow summit]

and to ur question no i never played bfv.. played bf1 tho

[cloud zodiac]

you can also look up alpha footage online

and yes it feels a lot like mw2019

[shadow summit]

well looking at videos vs playing it urself is different lol

for example, u wouldnt really know how EFT feels by just looking at other people playing it..

[cloud zodiac]

dont worry about the gunplay and TTK

I think dice nailed it this time

hopefully they dont touch it

[shadow summit]

what about gun customization, do u think its on par with mw19

or more dumbed down

[past flax]

Oh hi i got in

[worldly star]

its not

[shadow summit]

where do i sign up

[cloud zodiac]

there was only the plus system in the alpha lol

and it probably wont be

[shadow summit]

the 4 quick change feature?

[cloud zodiac]

it is a playtest afterall

yeah

wait till beta to see

[maiden crest]

[past flax]

Im asian

What do i do here?

[nova glen]

Guys

[nova glen]

Wait

[past flax]

Yes?

[arctic grove]

play battlefield

[past flax]

Oh

[nova glen]

What does season pass have?

Is it going to be pay to win or something?

[wide shore]

No

[past flax]

My ps4 is currently dead

[stone epoch]

Cosmetics

[deft storm]

Cosmetic only

[orchid flower]

Give bf2042 now

[stone epoch]

And new specialists with the season pass I think

[orchid flower]

FUCK

[cloud zodiac]

6 more days

[stone epoch]

Hope the specialists are free though

[orchid flower]

[maiden crest]

isnt the 6600k better than the 4790?

[stone epoch]

I mean it’s a higher number

[wide shore]

I don’t see specialists being in the paid season pass.

[shadow summit]

ye people with 3080s gna have more fps

[cloud zodiac]

probably unlockable through grind

[past flax]

What do i else play my ps4's wire destroyed

[cloud zodiac]

would be dumb if they made them paid

[stone epoch]

What wire?

[burnt swan]

its gonna be a battle pass system

[stone epoch]

HDMI?

[orchid flower]

Vanguard is wayyyyy better then bf2042 🤡

[burnt swan]

you just buy the battle pass and grind

[orchid flower]

Jk

Im joking lmao

[cloud zodiac]

yeah but its probably gonna be on the free tier

[stone epoch]

HDMI or power cable just gotta buy a new one

[burnt swan]

prob not

[past flax]

Bro i put the ps4 on a 220

So it kinda smoke

[orchid flower]

[nova glen]

Sad

[past flax]

Sadge

[cloud zodiac]

bf was never p2w

locking specialist behind a paywall isnt like battlefield lol

[past flax]

Anyways

[stone epoch]

BFF2P was

Lol

[cloud zodiac]

oh yeah except for that

lmao

[stone epoch]

And heroes

[past flax]

Do you guys play on codm for any chance??

[orchid flower]

Give cootchie

[cloud zodiac]

man that was so long ago

[stone epoch]

And probably bf mobile

Yeah we old

[raven quarry]

the specialists are entirely free, battlepass only has cosmetics

[wide shore]

I remember playing BF Heroes just so I could get veteran status for the M1 Garand

[cloud zodiac]

gaming graphics has come a long way

[orchid flower]

[stone epoch]

Bruh I joined a match after waiting in the queue, it ended right as I joined, and everyone left

[past flax]

Guys

[orchid flower]

Ye

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 | Open Beta (Early Access)
Opens <t:1633503600:R>

[past flax]

Do any of you guys plsy codm

[graceful island]

My 5800X came in the mail!

[stone epoch]

I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds

[past flax]

Cause im on my phone

[foggy crest]

shortcut kit 🤔

[elfin swallow]

[past flax]

My ps4 is dead

[wide shore]

I don’t play any mobile games

[orchid flower]

Need to download it again

[subtle cliff]

where can you pre download the beta on steam

[past flax]

Ok

[orchid flower]

But i need to schleep

[past flax]

OK

Ops srry for the caps

[deft storm]

[cloud zodiac]

on steam when the preload is available

[orchid flower]

NO

[deft storm]

[cloud zodiac]

lol

[orchid flower]

[subtle cliff]

is it not available yet

[orchid flower]

[subtle cliff]

its there on xbox

[graceful island]

Dun Dun.....Dun..Dun

[orchid flower]

[nova glen]

I just want to say, BF 1,V has one of the most amazing scores I've ever heard

[past flax]

[cloud zodiac]

5th oct

[orchid flower]