battlefield-2042

[lost snow]

so they're staying low

[limber garden]

yeah, people are angry at this point, reddit started downvoting people saying "be patient"

[hidden sand]

Thank fuck, being concerned doesn't equal impatience. Glad some people have realized that now lol.

[ebon patio]

You mean refreshing their twitter account all day.

[limber garden]

What this guy said.

[delicate hollow]

Twitter gross

[limber garden]

And that

[nocturne orbit]

That’s the exact problem. I have never seen battlefield this quite asf… I think due to how much players showed us gameplays and people disliked the alpha. They just wanted to push themselves and improve better rather then wasting their time on gamescom trailers or what ever and if that’s the case then I wouldn’t mind at all for them not giving us news but at least a 1 sentence on Twitter telling us the issue will be appreciated.

[ebon patio]

Wait who disliked a 20gb game ?

We need to place bounty on them.

[arctic grove]

Oh well. Would anyone like to take part in a giveaway for dying light 2 or bf gold edition? it would consist of a quick battlefield quiz, one with the most correct answers wins the game of their choice

[lost snow]

what do you get?

[arctic grove]

You get either a copy of dying light 2 or battlefield 2042 gold edition

which ever you would prefer

[lost snow]

what do you get?

[hidden sand]

Sure I'll participate

[arctic grove]

You get either a copy of dying light 2 or battlefield 2042 gold ediiton which ever you would prefer

[arctic grove]

Nice

[hidden sand]

Damn these mfers in a timeloop

[lost snow]

no, what do you get?

[arctic grove]

so what do you guys think of the game

[thin rain]

I am interested if I can win

[arctic grove]

You get either a copy of dying light 2 or battlefield 2042 gold ediiton which ever you would prefer

lol

You should win, they're easy questions

[thin rain]

😜

[arctic grove]

do you actually wanna take part?

[lost snow]

omg...

[thin rain]

Nah im down, not doing much atm

What are your questions about?

[lost snow]

bot

[arctic grove]

bfv and bf1

[wary sleet]

🤦‍♂️

[thin rain]

ahhh the two games I didnt play again

Im skipping

🤣

[arctic grove]

I have one for bfd

bf4

[lost snow]

i wonder if i spoke mandarin if it would help

[arctic grove]

try padgin

[hidden sand]

He means what are you getting in return for giving away those games

[arctic grove]

I mean I get nothing in return materialistically

[thin rain]

Im down for a bf4 quiz just for fun

[lost snow]

right...

[arctic grove]

If you're sceptical, I can send you some proof that I've followed through on prizes.

bEtA

gUyS

cOmE oN

XDDD

[gusty jasper]

Which main character died first in the campaign?

[thin rain]

Dunn

[lost snow]

irish

[arctic grove]

bEtA

lMaO

[lost snow]

Master Chief

[gusty jasper]

What gun was used by Recker to shoot open the sinking car window?

[simple bison]

any word on beta?

[thin rain]

A revolver, dont remember the name of it

[gusty jasper]

The Rex

[arctic grove]

Alright well I'm happy to start if you are ready?

[thin rain]

Rex, right!

[hidden sand]

Yes

[thin rain]

Nope

[arctic grove]

Phar0 wanna take part?

[simple bison]

damn

[gusty jasper]

What did Irish say to Recker before giving you the grenade launcher to shoot down the chopper?

[drifting nacelle]

Can I take part

[arctic grove]

of course

[gusty jasper]

yes

[arctic grove]

Alright well. I'll start now

[foggy crest]

Burn those mf

[thin rain]

Blow them to hell (I think, cant remember even tho I played the campaign a few days ago haha)

[gusty jasper]

Echan got it

[arctic grove]

Remember, these are bf4 questions.

Question 1 - wahat are the three playable nations in bf4?

what*

[foggy crest]

☃️

[hidden sand]

China, Russia, USA

[thin rain]

RU, US and CN

[gusty jasper]

Russia, China, USA

[drifting nacelle]

Wait is it first to answer?

[arctic grove]

Phar0

[lost snow]

don't give him your email address

[arctic grove]

Yes

[drifting nacelle]

This isn't gonna work well lmao

[gusty jasper]

am i giving questions APL?

or answering them

[arctic grove]

no lol

answering

[gusty jasper]

k

[arctic grove]

you got the first point anyways

[gusty jasper]

Oh!!! You're telling the person to answer

[hidden sand]

WTF

[drifting nacelle]

How?

[gusty jasper]

he typed my name

[arctic grove]

He got the question right

[hidden sand]

discord lag is unbelievable

[drifting nacelle]

Suika answered first on my end

[foggy crest]

Yeah suika

[arctic grove]

Huh, that's weird. yeah discord lag

[drifting nacelle]

This is why this won't work well

[arctic grove]

I'll wait a second to see if other answers appear first

[gusty jasper]

you should just say the person's name

[arctic grove]

No prob

[gusty jasper]

that you want to answer

[arctic grove]

That would work if it was team based

[gusty jasper]

neth on my team

[drifting nacelle]

Or you could do Google docs

Or voicechat

[gusty jasper]

ayo

[drifting nacelle]

Oh well it doesn't matter I'll just drop out

[gusty jasper]

battlefield is insane

[arctic grove]

Ok

well neth, suika, phar0

Question 2 what is the name of the third dlc released in bf4?

[gusty jasper]

FUCK

[thin rain]

Make a kahoot lmao

[gusty jasper]

YOu

[arctic grove]

Actually kahoot

Not a bad idea lmao

[thin rain]

hmmm

[arctic grove]

actually no I have a better idea

[thin rain]

China rising was first

sooo

[arctic grove]

sec

[thin rain]

naval strike?

[sullen inlet]

Bring ziba back to 2042

[hidden sand]

Final Stand

Nah that shits the fith nvm lmfao

[arctic grove]

https://buddyboardgames.com/uno?room=R2l2ZWF3YXk=

Click that

make a name

[thin rain]

What is this

haha

[arctic grove]

It's uno lmfao

[hidden sand]

I gotta go anyway, gl to you two

[arctic grove]

oh lmao

nvm

well I'll do it later in that case. If you're on later suika and it's a bit more active in here, I'll host it again

[drifting nacelle]

Maybe make a group chat so we can all know when we are active

[arctic grove]

sure

[drifting nacelle]

Cause if it won't have a flaw like discord lag then I'll participate

[arctic grove]

bEtA

gUySD

lMaO

Can't add neth or suika

I'll dm you when I next do it rando, regardless of the participants

It'll just be uno which bypasses the lag lol

Done it that way before, it's fun

[drifting nacelle]

Aight I'm in Australia so I might be asleep when they are available

[arctic grove]

just see what happens

[drifting nacelle]

Ye

[fair rain]

Do Gartic phone

[arctic grove]

i really like battlefield

[fair rain]

[arctic grove]

bEtA gUyS cOmE oN

dIcE

lMaO

its almost october

[fair rain]

You can lift your head up to the sky
Take a deeper breath and give it time
You can walk the path among the lines
With your shattered frame of mind

[lost snow]

wondering if using a touchscreen would help with tv missile targeting

[arctic grove]

agreed.

[white geyser]

[sullen inlet]

10 days

Time to pray

[topaz hazel]

mOrE tO cOmE aS tHe MoNtH rOlLs bY

[arctic grove]

Do y'all know drag ?

sometimes

[topaz hazel]

Who’s drag

[arctic grove]

[topaz hazel]

[arctic grove]

Drag em these nuts on your face

[topaz hazel]

[arctic grove]

im eating a hostess ding dong with my bourbon sips

[amber panther]

so the is actually Dead?

[arctic grove]

cant catch me

[tribal zenith]

if we dont get the date of the beta this week, its delayed

[arctic grove]

Insert fart noise

[amber panther]

no more in 2042 main theme

[arctic grove]

DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN

[patent spade]

Vanguard will suck and Battlefield will be great

[summer mason]

having to play bf5 to pass the time until bf2042

[pulsar junco]

i need more gameplay to watch

[summer mason]

have u watched that

[arctic grove]

Yall realize that there are no more "months leading up to release" on the 15th of this month aka tuesday 😬

[summer mason]

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

this one to

[arctic grove]

DICE watin till last min like a college student

[tame cobalt]

maby

[next isle]

yeah no

[arctic grove]

Most op in bf 2042

[edgy trout]

TUK TUK

[swift copper]

All these chines leaks xD

[true wasp]

what da dog doin

[edgy trout]

whoever shoots the robodog will be placed on trial for animal abuse

[prime grove]

I shot the robodog

[arctic grove]

these messages are stale as fuck

robodog or tuktuk

come up with smth new

[tame cobalt]

What about those that shoot the penguins

[prime grove]

yes because we haven't heard a single thing for more than a month

[arctic grove]

O

[prime grove]

aside from some 1 minute gameplay which is a joke

[visual oasis]

Yall seen the leaked gameplay videos yet?

[arctic grove]

why is the f35 so good at dogfighting in the battlefield games?

[visual oasis]

The game looks good for a beta

Ir I mean alpha

[jaunty peak]

And that’s leaked video with garbage compression

Will def look good on day one

[tame cobalt]

tru

[visual oasis]

Dead chat

[tame cobalt]

no u

[quasi parcel]

BF2042 on Frostbite 3 in wikipedia, its not in frostbite 4? 2042 don't have on new engine?

[tame cobalt]

updated frostbite 3

[arctic grove]

bruh what

they have been showing new shit every friday

[jaunty peak]

The last trailer they showed was from 3 months ago

[prime grove]

sure

[mossy vigil]

ratio

[quasi parcel]

Oh, so they wouldnt be so big change between BFV and 2042 right? Like the movement,shooting etc.

[prime grove]

battlefield mobile and some 1 min gameplay

so much info

[mossy vigil]

😔

No Ratio

[jaunty peak]

Not necessarily, games can be significantly different on the same engine

[arctic grove]

Literally not true

that was when the first trailer came out

last trailer that came out was 2 weeks ago

[tame cobalt]

yes they are iterating on their work from bfv, based on the lessons they've learned etc

[jaunty peak]

Literally true. The last specialist video was shown to the press 3 months ago

[arctic grove]

Okay but it was released to the public a week ago

so that doesn't matter lol

[jaunty peak]

I’m not saying about how it matters, I’m saying the most recent video they showed us was old ass content with not a lot of substance

[arctic grove]

Well that's what it will be until beta

they have still shown more than most other games

[jaunty peak]

BF3 had 25 videos released at this point in its release schedule

1 month out before launch

[arctic grove]

yeah but a majority were just developer commentary

[jaunty peak]

That’s fine, I’ll absolutely take that

[arctic grove]

plus that was from a time when BF had never had a truly bad game or PR disaster

[quasi parcel]

There r some videos on youtube about the updated frostbite 3?

[jaunty peak]

Just something. Dice marketing has basically been radio silent compared to previous launches

[arctic grove]

no shit

they don't want another BFV

[jaunty peak]

Give us develop commentary

[woeful anchor]

what’s wrong with bfv lol

[jaunty peak]

Btc failed because they made disengenous claims

[arctic grove]

It was a giant financial and PR disaster

[visual oasis]

Alot

[jaunty peak]

BFV*

[mighty moat]

when's the beta?

[arctic grove]

Yeah and it also failed because of the horrid marketing

[woeful anchor]

it was my first bf game so my opinions gonna be different lol

[jaunty peak]

Right, horrid marketing from false claims about the game

[mighty moat]

realistically nothing. it plays better than the other games in the series

[jaunty peak]

You can cut content and build hype without claiming it has everything

[woeful anchor]

that’s all i payed attention to lol i liked how it also was pretty much the only game with a “battle pass” you didn’t have to pay for

[jaunty peak]

Hell, put out gameplay highlights from internal tests

[tranquil turtle]

Lack of content

[jaunty peak]

Do videos on specific maps

It’s easy

[arctic grove]

Well it also failed because all of the developer responses were extremely insulting and insufferable towards fans

very disconnected from reality

[mighty moat]

when does the beta come out?

[jaunty peak]

That still doesn’t provide an excuse for not putting out content

[jaunty peak]

Probably this year

[woeful anchor]

officially by the end of the month but ppl are saying the 22nd

[mighty moat]

no shit

[arctic grove]

It most certainly does, EA is not risking another financial failure like BFV

[mighty moat]

that's what i've heard. i'm just itching to plat the game so i came to ask

[arctic grove]

Best to put out just a little bit of drip fed content at this point

[woeful anchor]

same lol

[outer sequoia]

You came here to ask like we know the official date

[jaunty peak]

It doesn’t, you can push content of footage without making any claims

Or setting yourself up for failure

[woeful anchor]

it hasn’t really been drip fed tho they put out a shit ton about a month ago then barely anything since

[arctic grove]

Yeah but why risk that at all, their marketing is already doing extremely well

[quasi parcel]

I like BFV

[outer sequoia]

Bfv is trash

[arctic grove]

I hear people talking about 2042 in fucking Team Fortress 2 chat lol

so clearly its working

[woeful anchor]

it’s good af when you don’t compare it to other bf games

[arctic grove]

Beta my dice

Fasttt

[jaunty peak]

Within the BF community, but it’s neglecting the non-BF community

[arctic grove]

😫 😩

[outer sequoia]

I don’t compare to any other bf game

[arctic grove]

😋 😋

[jaunty peak]

I haven’t seen any TV spots/commercials

Nothing to attract the COD crowd

[woeful anchor]

it was a good ass game on the immersive part

[outer sequoia]

[quasi parcel]

Any info about the updated frostbite 3?

[arctic grove]

well yeah, game TV commercials usually are a waste of money now unless you get a spot on the superbowl or something like that

[jaunty peak]

That’s just not true

[woeful anchor]

ppl still watch tv???

[arctic grove]

It is though, TV is a dying platform

[prime grove]

for what?

[pulsar junco]

twitch and youtube is where its at

[arctic grove]

and streaming services dont have ads

[jaunty peak]

Companies invest a lot of money in advertising because it does work

[outer sequoia]

Tv commercials would be a waste when everyone is just streaming Netflix Hulu and other stuff

[urban olive]

Computers are just interactive TVs

[prime grove]

it is

[jaunty peak]

Anything BF-related. New trailers, new anything to get non-veterans excited

[arctic grove]

Yeah they spend that money on online advertising, not on television

[prime grove]

why tf would they put ads on tv??

[jaunty peak]

If it was true, no big company would advertise

[pulsar junco]

i saw a ad for borderlands 3 on a billboard and on the side of a bus back when it was nearing release

[green breach]

If they add in the zip 22 preorder sales will go through the roof

[jaunty peak]

Because they have for every previous release

[arctic grove]

Hello

[arctic grove]

Yeah but that isnt TV

[pulsar junco]

ok and

[woeful anchor]

i haven’t seen shit about bf2042 anywhere i. just saw it on steam

[arctic grove]

Cyberpunk had a fucking times square Ad and I still never saw it on TV once

[arctic grove]

And it isn't tv

[mighty moat]

i know i didnt. i came to find out if anything new was said

[jaunty peak]

Exactly

[prime grove]

tv is dying icba

[pulsar junco]

it isnt TV

[arctic grove]

Yeah

[jaunty peak]

But it’s not dead yet

[pulsar junco]

its not tv

[tight storm]

2143

[arctic grove]

The last DICE game with TV ads was like BFBC2 lol

[green breach]

Whoa ready to use the zip 22 in 2042?

[arctic grove]

Ok and?

[jaunty peak]

And the TV was just an example, I’m talking about advertising in general on every platform

[pulsar junco]

its not tv

[jaunty peak]

No BF marketing anywhere right now on any platform

[arctic grove]

Uno reverse

[arctic grove]

Well yeah their advertising has been successful

everyone is talking about it

COD is basically free BF marketing at this point

[jaunty peak]

They’re not, you just spend all ur time in this discord so you think it’s the case

[pulsar junco]

looks like you can run ammo packs with a sniper

[arctic grove]

They've given us enough to keep us interested

[woeful anchor]

i don’t know anyone personally that’s heard about it besides diehard bf fans

[jaunty peak]

And Reddit

[prime grove]

but it is dying

[arctic grove]

I just said I have seen people all over other games talking about it lmao

[arctic grove]

Looks like it's time to sit at the back of maps and not play obj

[prime grove]

putting ads on tv would be a waste of time for them

[jaunty peak]

One anecdotal example

[arctic grove]

Why would I use reddit

[pulsar junco]

yeah terribad

[woeful anchor]

casper with a sniper and ammo boxes 😩

[arctic grove]

I've also seen them on Gmod, SWBF2, BF4 (to be expected), Apex, and insurgency

[quasi parcel]

After the 2042 the next BF game will have frostbite 4?

[prime grove]

I don't like using snipers but I'll try probably try out casper because hes pretty cool

[pulsar junco]

i wonder how bad the chat censoring is gonna be the characters in the gameplay swear more than i do lmao

[woeful anchor]

i’d say get a suppressed smg or something with him and hide in the brush on the side of roads

[prime grove]

bet

[woeful anchor]

but that’s also if his ghille actually works lol

[pulsar junco]

just heard the line take that motherfucker and eat shit from mackay

[woeful anchor]

lmao nice

[pulsar junco]

nice it is

[arctic grove]

That's how bf should be played

[quasi parcel]

I mean, the new IW engine is so good, they wouldnt have to make a new one?

[arctic grove]

It's an alright engine

very needed

[prime grove]

they could use for it some time

[arctic grove]

Who wants to actually get stuck in and play their part for the team?

[prime grove]

maybe a few years

[slim quiver]

Yeah all games eventually need to upgrade or create a new engine

[arctic grove]

Team playing is for pussies

[arctic grove]

based

[pulsar junco]

now he just yells fucking shit out of no where

[quasi parcel]

You dont like the new IW engine?

[slim quiver]

The only company that actually does not really “create new engines” is like bethesda and look how that has gone for them

[woeful anchor]

i usually just direct my squad to spots and protect them from afar

[arctic grove]

Ye. I hope Bethesda's new engine is good

[arctic grove]

LOL gamebryo

[slim quiver]

Same

[arctic grove]

the engine older than me that can't run above 60 fps without breaking

[slim quiver]

Gamebyro that then literally gets enhanced into CREATION engine

[arctic grove]

Oh by the way what did you guys think to ps showcase?

[slim quiver]

Star citizen I think is the first game with the new engine

[arctic grove]

Anything you're excited for?

[next isle]

Yeah, the Fallout has been interesting

[slim quiver]

I liked some of it

[arctic grove]

No it's literally the same engine

Creation 2

lol

[slim quiver]

Was this a pun mozzy….

[woeful anchor]

fo76 definitely ruined it tho

[arctic grove]

Bethesda ruined Fallout

lol

[slim quiver]

Fallout 76 eventually got decent in its current state but yeah it was the worst launch ever for a fallout game

It took years to lift it up off the ground

[woeful anchor]

3 nv and 4 were good games and the story at the start of 76 was good but then they added that pay to win shit

[quasi parcel]

I mean there is the ps5 and series x, and look how big is the difference between the older and the new iw engine. Frostbite 3 is good but I think they can make much better for ps5/sx (and pc)

[arctic grove]

It's still boring as fuck, you can just actually play it now instead of your entire pc dying

I avoided fallout 76 because they took content out of the game and started charging for it.

[pulsar junco]

woah these guardian packs are cool

[arctic grove]

Don't want to support that kind of practice

[slim quiver]

I will admit there isn’t a whole lot thats there that’s interests me, but some people finally can yes play it and enjoy it

[arctic grove]

The only good Fallout game since 2 is NV, and that wasn't made by bethesda

[slim quiver]

I much prefer the og fallouts and 3 and New Vegas

[woeful anchor]

that’s when i stopped and then that vip or whatever the shit is

[arctic grove]

Plus the lore is totally fucked

Hey

[slim quiver]

I think Fallout 4 in general was a failure

[lyric wedge]

Bruh i just played early acces 2042

[arctic grove]

My friends

[arctic grove]

Bethesda just saying give me your wallet

Supp

[arctic grove]

Yeah it's a terrible game

[prime grove]

[pulsar junco]

"mother fucking tango shit" wtf are these lines

[arctic grove]

Howdy mate

[woeful anchor]

yea i thought they got past that with the skyrim shit lmao they made a new skyrim too

[arctic grove]

I didn't mind fallout 4

Fallout 4 is just so weak in every aspect

[slim quiver]

I’d be willing to hope that with bethesda owned by Microsoft, it’s possible for new Vegas 2 to be remade by obsidian or some sort of remaster to happen

[woeful anchor]

i liked 4 for the building but much preferred 3 and nv story wise

[slim quiver]

As Microsoft owns the entire IP

[arctic grove]

New Vegas remaster would be absolutely gorgeous

[quasi parcel]

i hope they will be difference about movement/shooting etc

[woeful anchor]

i wish more games were like metro exodus with the backpack and changing attachments tho

[next isle]

Any FO game from Obsidian please

Give

[slim quiver]

Absolutely 100%

[arctic grove]

Should we start a petition? Lmao

[arctic grove]

I want Obsidian to get the IP while Bethesda works on Elder Scrolls 6 and Starfield, that way Obsidian could create Fallout: New California

[slim quiver]

Obsidian has proven time and time again they are extremely RPG capable

[arctic grove]

I haven't played an obsidian rpg

[slim quiver]

That would be cool, though avowed looks really interesting. It’s kind of like obsidians next gen skyrim

[winged surge]

🌺

[arctic grove]

New Vegas?

[woeful anchor]

speaking of obsidian how did the outer worlds go i saw it on sale like 2 months after it came out lmao

[slim quiver]

It is short but very good imo

[lime surge]

outer worlds was meh, so a modern obsidian fallout will probably be just as unimaginative tbh

[arctic grove]

Outer Worlds was pretty good, but you could tell it was trying to be a Fallout game

I didn't really play new Vegas but I watched walkthroughs of it

[slim quiver]

I very much enjoyed the characters of outer worlds

Obsidian proves they know how to make dialogue options

[woeful anchor]

they wanted to make another nv but couldn’t because of the copyright lol

[slim quiver]

Because the script was nice and witty

[quasi parcel]

what u think, how much GB need for this?

[arctic grove]

Well yeah I know

Bethesda is also the reason Obsidian went bankrupt and lost most of their creative staff

[quasi parcel]

minimum 100 I think

[woeful anchor]

i’d say around 100 give or take 20g

[slim quiver]

At this point Microsoft has a lot of options to put titles in the right hands

[arctic grove]

I mean Obsidian did highly hint at some sort of new Obsidian fallout on twitter

so who knows

[pulsar junco]

id say near 100 with all the textures from portal

[tribal wyvern]

approximately 91 gb

[slim quiver]

Yeah they gave a shrug too response to NV2

[pulsar junco]

unless portal is a seperate client?

[slim quiver]

It’s been a highly requested game for years

[tribal wyvern]

it's on the xbox store, it was 50 gb before

it was updated to 91 recently

so yeah, 91

[arctic grove]

I mean, it's not a hard confirm or anything, but it definitely arouses curiosity

Oh what do you think to the Kotor remake zzzy?

KOTOR Is basically new vegas but star wars

so I love it

[slim quiver]

Oh absolutely

KOTOR 1 and 2 are my jam

I loved them as a kid so the remake I am excited for

[arctic grove]

Seeing revan in 4k raytracing

[quasi parcel]

Fallout 4 is a good game? I thinking lot of to buy it or not, but when I saw gameplay, it takes my interest

[slim quiver]

I wasn’t into F4

[arctic grove]

I would say it's good for the price you can get it at now

[arctic grove]

No it's pretty bad

[slim quiver]

There was a lot of things that make it feel like not an RPG

[arctic grove]

I think you can pick up fo4 for like 5 bucks

It's worth 5 bucks

[slim quiver]

There was a few interesting things you could do like chambering different guns with different ammo and such

[arctic grove]

Story is lame, graphics suck, shooting is nothing special, mechanics are way shallow, dialogue system is terrible, it's really only playable with mods

The settlement thing was alright

[quasi parcel]

lol

[arctic grove]

VATS seemed pretty bad

[slim quiver]

VATS in fallout 4 isn’t even needed anymore which is sad

VATS is like the funniest thing about fallout

And they went and ruined it

[arctic grove]

The game wasn't gorey either

just buy this game instead

https://store.steampowered.com/app/22380/Fallout_New_Vegas/

Like Vegas was deceptively gory

[tribal wyvern]

bro insurgency sandstorm got a coop 64 player server

liek 32vs32

[arctic grove]

damn

[tribal wyvern]

it's 32 humans

it's like a full on assault

[quasi parcel]

While I waiting to BF2042 I played BFV but it little bit boring, and advice about some new game with low price until BF2042 release?

[arctic grove]

One thing I did like in fo4 was the unique dialogue from followers

[slim quiver]

New Vegas and fallout 3 also had a very uhhhh idk how to describe but very gritty look to it. I get the “lol green and brown filter” meme but seriously the lighting in new Vegas and 3 was way better than 4

[arctic grove]

I only play ISMC so its usually 16 v.s like 64 bots

[pulsar junco]

god damn the tanks absolutely hoon in this

[tribal wyvern]

nothing can fill the hole of bf 2042 and 2042 is incredibly unique

you'll find yourself finding every game boring and jumping games quickly

[arctic grove]

I liked how characters would give their two cents in conversations

[arctic grove]

LOL OKAY BRO

[tribal wyvern]

do not recommend buying stuff

[quasi parcel]

Yeah but idk what can I do

[slim quiver]

That is totally false

[tribal wyvern]

neither do i brother

[pulsar junco]

play planetside

[arctic grove]

"global warming or massive mercenary wars have never been explored in media before"

[slim quiver]

Do not listen to that @quasi parcel

Any game you feel interested in is your own business

[tribal wyvern]

find me a 128 player with large scale maps game with specialists on it and good gunplay then

[slim quiver]

It doesn’t need to be the same game man

[arctic grove]

HLL, RS2, Post Scriptum, Squad

[arctic grove]

You don't need that type of a game to have fun

[slim quiver]

I know lol

[tribal wyvern]

none of those is 128 players nor do they have specialists and if you're not into milsims they won't be fun to you

[pulsar junco]

planetside

[arctic grove]

They are 128 players though

[tribal wyvern]

now THAT'S good point

[slim quiver]

I’m playing tales of arise, lost in random right now and they’re both really good and I’m enjoying them while I wait

[tribal wyvern]

nope, squad is the highest with 100

[slim quiver]

You don’t need the same type of game to have fun

[prime grove]

say that in 5 years

[quasi parcel]

its 128 vs 128 or 64 vs 64?

[arctic grove]

also how is RS2, Post Scriptum, or HLL a milsim

No man's sky is pretty good now was playing it earlier

[tribal wyvern]

64vs64

[slim quiver]

Also I’d like to point out 128 isn’t something never seen before thing

[tribal wyvern]

they are milsims lmao

[pulsar junco]

500

[arctic grove]

They legit arent

[proven sun]

Got 2042 free on xbox should i buy it on pc too

[slim quiver]

the game MAG had 256 player domination mode lol

[tribal wyvern]

they're literally the most popular milsims on the market

[fair coral]

MAG was fun.

[pulsar junco]

[fair coral]

Sad to see it be a failure.

[quasi parcel]

but 64 vs 64 has in BF V too right? I think it will be 128 vs 128

[slim quiver]

MAG was super underrated

[prime grove]

128 v 128 would change everything too much

[arctic grove]

256 player Dom?

What

[slim quiver]

I feel like it failed because it was console exclusive

[fair coral]

Oh yes, it was awesome.

[arctic grove]

A milsim is Arma, where you simulate that you are in the actual army, RS2, HLL, and Post Scriptum doesn't do that

[slim quiver]

Yes

[north walrus]

Play bf4 lol to compensate for 2042 that's what I am doing

[fair coral]

I agree, it being console locked screwed it.

[prime grove]

???

[fair coral]

Really fun game though.

[slim quiver]

Mag had domination modes that were 256 players

[north walrus]

You do in PS and Squad?

[arctic grove]

That is insane dude!

[slim quiver]

And that was PS3 era

[tribal wyvern]

a simple google search shows that hll, squad, rs2 and post scriptum are indeed milsims

[slim quiver]

So like it’s not like BF is the first to do this

[tribal wyvern]

just not to the scale of arma 3

[arctic grove]

PS3 was kinda sucky tbh

[slim quiver]

Mag did it like 10 years before

[north walrus]

They provide a milsim multiplayer pvp experience

[quasi parcel]

imagine 128 vs 128

[arctic grove]

I was a 360 kid

[tribal wyvern]

if a milsim had to be identical to arma 3 in the sense of simulating being in the army then there's only one milsim

[slim quiver]

Also rising storm isn’t a milsim really

It’s a arcade tact shooter

[arctic grove]

PS is really just a regular WW2 shooter except it has a lot of running and prox chat, other than that it isnt really a milsim

[north walrus]

It is a frigging milsim. It's not just a regular ww2 game

[slim quiver]

Rising storm doesn’t make you go on a 10 day hike to get to an objective

[lime surge]

rising storm and hell let loss are more BF like experiences than the other ones

[tribal wyvern]

have you played post scriptum at all?????

[north walrus]

And real military is a lot of slow and running

[arctic grove]

Bruh It plays exactly like HLL except it just has more running

[tribal wyvern]

"just a regular ww2 shooter"

[quasi parcel]

But the 64 vs 64 is not new in battlefield right?

[north walrus]

It doesn't

[tribal wyvern]

you've played neither then lmao

[stiff pollen]

128 players is new

[tribal wyvern]

i own both, played post scriptum since beta

[arctic grove]

Now let me name a really old milsim and see if any of you remember it.

[arctic grove]

I play both all the time

[slim quiver]

This except the stamina system in PS is super lame

[stiff pollen]

Max in the past was 64

[arctic grove]

SOCOM 2

[wintry narwhal]

No, you could do that in bf1942

[arctic grove]

👣

[tribal wyvern]

then how can you say they play the same? they clearly don't

[slim quiver]

Oh my god now there’s a good freaking title

[prime grove]

bf5 never had 64 v 64, and 2042 is having 64v64, its a confirmed thng

[tribal wyvern]

weaposn and gunpaly are the biggest differences too

[quasi parcel]

But the 128 players means 64 vs 64 or 128 vs 128? sorry, I lost

[slim quiver]

SOCOM I do not hear often anymore

[tribal wyvern]

64vs64 ffs

[slim quiver]

Such a great series

[lime surge]

only good thing about PS is the player base is more mature than the others, if that matters to you

[tribal wyvern]

SOCOM?

never heard of it

[arctic grove]

Was beautiful lmao

[prime grove]

bro t h i n k

[slim quiver]

Yes SOCOM was amazing

[arctic grove]

They literally do, the only difference is having to run, and gunplay, neither of which determine what is or isnt a milsim

[arctic grove]

You're too young

Damn I feel old now

[tribal wyvern]

oh it's a 2011 game

[quasi parcel]

lol, my bad

[tribal wyvern]

well in 2011 i wasn't playing games like that

mostly cod and bf

there is a very underrated and abandonware now game that i did indeed play though

[slim quiver]

SOCOM was before 2011

[tribal wyvern]

pilot down: behind enemy lines

[slim quiver]

That was just one of the last ones

[north walrus]

I play arma 3, squad, and PS. And you have to run in arma 3. So your point is invalid

[pulsar junco]

[tribal wyvern]

fax

[arctic grove]

SOCOM was ps2

[tribal wyvern]

y'all heard of this?

pls say yes

[north walrus]

Yes

[tribal wyvern]

i had a ps2, but didn't have SOCOM

[slim quiver]

1 and 2 were my favorites

[tribal wyvern]

i did have some cod games and bf2 modern combat tho

[quasi parcel]

I think about to buy BF1 or BF4 to play until 2042 will release. I have BF3 and BFV but its going to be bored little bit

[foggy crest]

It's devs made a ps exclusive MAG which had 256 player multiplayer fps game

[tribal wyvern]

yesssssssssss

[arctic grove]

Bruh you missed my entire point, it was never that you had to run, it's that the only thing that sets HLL and Post Scriptum apart is having to run farther to the OBJ

[arctic grove]

I never got to play It. My dad was worried I'd break the headset that came with the game lmao

[tame cobalt]

gettin real close to beta now

[north walrus]

And the gameplay, and the mechanics. They couldn't be more different

[tribal wyvern]

pilot down is so underrated bro

[quasi parcel]

but noshahr canals and caspian border r always makes my crazy 😂

[tribal wyvern]

you can't find anything about it much of anywhere

[north walrus]

HLL is a lot more arcade than PS

[arctic grove]

I saw him play it a couple times though and it looked amazing

[tribal wyvern]

i had a disc of it, palyed it on my mom's old windows xp laptop

[arctic grove]

Gameplay is the same, Gunplay is different, mechanics also are, doesn't make it a milsim

[tribal wyvern]

the music and story and intro were great

[north walrus]

It's really not

[slim quiver]

@quasi parcel if you’re looking for another game btw that’s really kind of cheap and interesting as hell I got you:

[arctic grove]

A milsim is when you are actually simulating a military experience, Arma is a perfect example because if you actually join a unit you have to do things like PT, Debrief, ETC

[north walrus]

Yeah so what makes arma 3 a milsim, oh yeah the 'ScAlE oF MaPs'🤣

[tribal wyvern]

each time you talk mroe about it i start to think you have not indeed played the games and just watched a couple of videos and are faking you played them to prove your point

[tribal wyvern]

nah the fact a bunch of overly serious people make you train with real life military bootcamps

[quasi parcel]

its like IGI?

[slim quiver]

I don’t think he’s faking. Let’s just relax

[tame cobalt]

[tribal wyvern]

but if that's what makes something a milsim then arma 3 is the only milsim in existence

[arctic grove]

Yeah exactly, that's what makes it a milsim, whether you like it or not

[slim quiver]

It’s basically like an actual swat game where you handle situations how you choose to handle them. With like non lethal bean bags, or lethal rounds. It’s very atmosphere and very cool

[arctic grove]

That's just false

[foggy crest]

ARMA and Squad

[north walrus]

Not really, milsim is soo much more

[slim quiver]

Mostly rescuing civilians and stuff

[tribal wyvern]

yeah no, squad, hll and post scriptum are considered milsims mate

and in squad you don't train fr

[arctic grove]

Like?

[arctic grove]

Yeah maybe by your definition of the word

[quasi parcel]

arma 3 is realistic? so its very hardcore?

[tribal wyvern]

bro you said that's exactly what a milsim is and then when i go by your logic you say it's false?

make up your damn mind bro

[quasi parcel]

maybe i will try it, thanks

[arctic grove]

I said it's false because there are other games that have stuff like that, not just Arma 3

[tribal wyvern]

i don't know of any other game that makes you do real life bootcamp training other than arma 3's milsim units

[arctic grove]

but okay

[tame cobalt]

a real milsim should delete the game and ban you when you die

[tribal wyvern]

name them

[north walrus]

Communication to effectively achieve a mission, collaboration to complete a common goal, realistic damage and ttk, realistic handling, logistics and background operations such as commanding chains etc

[quasi parcel]

lol

[tribal wyvern]

COUGH SQUAD COUGH HLL COUGH POST SCRIPTUM

[quasi parcel]

I need that game xd

[tribal wyvern]

alright rs2 doesn't have as much communication i'll give you that BUT STILL fits that description

it's just users in rs2 choose not to communciate that much lmao

[arctic grove]

I mean alright, if that's you definition that's cool

But I disagree

[tribal wyvern]

no, that's THE definition, it's literally a gaming genre

[north walrus]

That's literally what milsim is

What's your definition

[wintry narwhal]

holy, now that's a blast from the past.

[north walrus]

Going to virtual boot camp. Which btw you can do in squad and PS

[arctic grove]

Something that simulates an actual military experience

[north walrus]

You've literally disproved your point

[stiff pollen]

How about you simulate going outside

[arctic grove]

I really haven't

[north walrus]

As this is what an actual millitary experience is minus dying irl

[tribal wyvern]

Mil-sim is also the descriptor for a genre of video games, often overlapping with the tactical shooter genre, containing more "realistic" mechanics and consequences than typical first-person shooters or action games. Software such as ArmA, rather than pure entertainment, are a simulation of equipment and tactics, and are sometimes used for military training and mission rehearsal.[6] Other games, such as the Red Orchestra series or the Battlefield series, feature some realistic aspects in their gameplay. Mil-sims can be differentiated from other shooter games in that, commonly:

[north walrus]

It takes teamwork

[solar moss]

how about you stop simulating going outside and go out fr and touch grass

[north walrus]

Communication

[stiff pollen]

Fr Fr

[tribal wyvern]

i'm gonna wait a bit before copying the next part so i don't spam

[north walrus]

Operations management

[foggy crest]

Which game u think is milsim ?

[north walrus]

And completing an objective

[tribal wyvern]

Firearms are modeled after real life. Bullets are grouped by magazines (rather than an ammo pool), gunshot wounds are usually fatal, and bullets are physically simulated, requiring the player to account for wind and gravity.
The games' systems account for various needs. Vehicles may have limited cargo space, and characters can become severely fatigued, including hunger and thirst.
Community-run MilSim events, within these video games, often have players undergo "training". A player might be trained in military tactics that will give them an advantage in the game.

[arctic grove]

Oh okay so that says Battlefield is a milsim

lol

[north walrus]

He said squad and PS aren't milsims and arma 3 is the only true milsim

[tribal wyvern]

doesn't say it is, just has milsim ELEMENTS

which it does, such as bullet drop

[solar moss]

bullet drop isnt a milsim element tho

[arctic grove]

The bullet drop in BF is completely unrealistic

lmao

[solar moss]

its in so many arcade shooters

[tribal wyvern]

the literal definition says it also includes physically simulated bullets making the player account for wind and gravity

which is in bf

[solar moss]

donda chant

[arctic grove]

No it isn't, that only happens at extreme distances irl, and Snipers always have spotters to account for things like that

[wintry narwhal]

You'd all be happier if you just tried maybe, not arguing about something you don't really give a shit about

[solar moss]

also battlefield bullets arent affected by wind

[tribal wyvern]

your literal definition of milsim is doing everythign as irl except the dying part

which you cannot do unless you're playing arma and arma only

[arctic grove]

Well it's not like theres anything else to talk about

[foggy crest]

Arma 3 is definitely the best milsim it's difficult game tho squad is little bit casual but it also is milsim

[arctic grove]

How dare you talk sense in a discord!

[tribal wyvern]

which both you and i know is bs

[wintry narwhal]

There are various meats that exist.

And woodwork

[woeful anchor]

i tried playing it but it wouldn’t let me get past the loading screen

[arctic grove]

I never said that though

[pulsar junco]

milsimmers

[tribal wyvern]

arma 3's a simple software version of irl milsims (which are real life simulatiosn conducted by the military to prepare soldiers for battle)

[arctic grove]

Milsimmers are like a fine milk

[foggy crest]

That's sad bro 😔

[tribal wyvern]

it was created to literally train soldiers

[arctic grove]

The line between what is and isnt a milsim is entirely subjective

[tribal wyvern]

the video game category of milsim is definetely not exactly like arma

[north walrus]

Squad is difficult to SL in if you have no leadership experience

[wintry narwhal]

There's fine milk? I think i've been doing milk wrong.

[tribal wyvern]

since arma isn't meant for the normal gamer

[north walrus]

Which I do🤣

[tribal wyvern]

no it's not, it's a genre that you weren't the one that made it......

so you cannot decide what a genre that is already made is defined as

[arctic grove]

I mean, the hardest part in arma is learning keybinds

[quasi parcel]

When I sniping in MW and after start playing BFV, man that changes about bullet drop, I need 4-5 shot to know how the bullet drop/velocity works in BF

[wintry narwhal]

I bought arma over the weekend, i'm a normal gamer, i've been having fun with it

[frigid belfry]

Try flying, communicating and trying to run it.

[tribal wyvern]

well if you're playing in a very casual unit it is, but yeah rest of the game's absolute fucking nightmare to play

[arctic grove]

Well yeah but if your just a normal PVT in a unit then it isn't that hard

[north walrus]

In squad and PS, you have to learn leadership, effective comms, command chain and battle ops. Attack maneuvers, need I go on

[wintry narwhal]

Oh yeah, i'm not about to start fuckin, e-saluting 14 year old staff sgt's

[north walrus]

You've never played squad

[arctic grove]

Okay well then that's what defines a milsim for you

[tribal wyvern]

remember arma was specifically made as a software for REAL SOLDIERS

[arctic grove]

I'm talking about arma

[quasi parcel]

Someone know some survival/loot games? Like Dying Light, The Division

[wintry narwhal]

Wasn't Americas Army supposed to be for soldiers? or recruitment or something?

[north walrus]

If you think flying logi runs are easy then your wrong

[tribal wyvern]

the milsim video game genre is for actual video games

[tribal wyvern]

yes but that's propaganda, arma was made to TRAIN soldiers

[pulsar junco]

armas made to cater to furries and femboys

[arctic grove]

Lol your saying Arma isnt a game now?

okay bro

[woeful anchor]

i’d say metro exodus but it wasn’t much survival jsut the story

[tribal wyvern]

there's a reason why arma is considered as software rather than a game most of the time

[wintry narwhal]

There are aliens in it?

Final answer, aliens

[tribal wyvern]

because it was never meant to be, it is by all intents and purposes a software to train soldiers, it's simply available to the public

[arctic grove]

Nobody has done that since Arma 1

lol

[topaz hazel]

What is going on

[arctic grove]

https://www.quora.com/Someone-once-told-me-that-the-military-USA-used-to-use-Arma-3-as-a-training-tool-particularly-for-jet-and-helicopter-pilots-is-that-true?ch=10&oid=14954364&share=fcf6cb89&srid=hKLQp&target_type=question

you talking about area51 yes?

[arctic grove]

idk lemon is saying Arma isnt a game

[quasi parcel]

I played it and little bit boring to me, doesnt take my attention so much

[tribal wyvern]

Mil-sim is also the descriptor for a genre of video games, often overlapping with the tactical shooter genre, containing more "realistic" mechanics and consequences than typical first-person shooters or action games. Software such as ArmA, rather than pure entertainment, are a simulation of equipment and tactics, and are sometimes used for military training and mission rehearsal.[6] Other games, such as the Red Orchestra series or the Battlefield series, feature some realistic aspects in their gameplay. Mil-sims can be differentiated from other shooter games in that

[prime grove]

dying light 2 and division 2 😂

[arctic grove]

Please just open that link.

[woeful anchor]

i just played it for the backpack and how the guns worked with attachments lol

[arctic grove]

Yeah Battlefield is a milsim according to that

[topaz hazel]

Pretty sure arma is a game

[tribal wyvern]

i can't see the link you've sent

it won't let me unless i sign up for a shit trial

[quasi parcel]

division 2 still playeble? I heard some bad about that game

[tribal wyvern]

again, has milsim elements, not a milsim itself

[arctic grove]

Apparently it's actually a software only used by hard core gamers ™️ to become real soldiers

[wintry narwhal]

I'm enjoying Arma 3, it takes some getting used to though. It's not all that fun trekking through the woods for half an hour only to get absolutely deleted from apparently nowhere

[arctic grove]

nothing bad about division 2 it just wasnt good as 1st one

[tribal wyvern]

what? no it's used by soldiers to be trained

ffs you don't know how to read or you're cherry picking my words

[topaz hazel]

Cringe

[quasi parcel]

Its like BF1 and BFV? Division 1 better than Division 2?

[arctic grove]

Well you know Red Orchestra is Rising Storm's brother game right? so if that just contains milsim elements, then technically according to that definition, RS2 isn't a milsim

[prime grove]

cool its considered a milsim in a random definition, but nobody says battlefield is a milsim

[wintry narwhal]

Wait, there's that one guy

[vital cloud]

except the many milsim groups

[arctic grove]

yeah like bf1 is better than bfv and division 1 better than 2

[wintry narwhal]

The youtube guy that goes full mil-sim and yells at his mom

[arctic grove]

So what the link says lemon, is that the army doesn't use ARMA but a heavily modified version of it.

[wintry narwhal]

Commander something?

[arctic grove]

Well yeah that's my point, the definition is subjective

[quasi parcel]

Division 1/2 has crossplay?

[arctic grove]

no

[tribal wyvern]

ok

so i'm wrong about that, whoop-dee-doo

doesn't change the fact that squad, hll, post scriptum are still milsims tho

[arctic grove]

Lemon admits that he is wrong first time ever

[tribal wyvern]

which deez denies since they're not exactly like arma

[tame cobalt]

Bingus

[tribal wyvern]

not the first time

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-oops-ouch-well-maybe-gif-15443300

[wintry narwhal]

So there's like, 3 guys, locked in an army shed somewhere, being forced to make workshop mods for arma 3.

Haven't seen sunlight in 8 years

[arctic grove]

I have to admit lemon that is the first time I've seen you admit you're wrong. Got to give you props

[arctic grove]

True, I saw it myself

[tribal wyvern]

i've admitted i was wrong multiple times

[arctic grove]

[limber garden]

"GoLLy gEe SepTembEr hAs 30 daYs" Oh, whOopsie Beta hAs tO bE deLaYed

[tribal wyvern]

just not most of those times were in this server

[arctic grove]

first time IVE seen you admit you're wrong

[tribal wyvern]

oh ok

but still, hll, ps and squad ARE milsims

[wintry narwhal]

You are forgetting the number one rule of conversing on the internet.

"Everyone is wrong but me, at all times"

[tribal wyvern]

and you cannot deny that

[wintry narwhal]

That's how it works

[woeful anchor]

oh what???? september has 30 days???

[tame cobalt]

[arctic grove]

Not part of my argument.

[topaz hazel]

[pulsar junco]

longest september of my life swear

[tribal wyvern]

don't give a shit, if i'm proven wrong i'll admit it

[arctic grove]

ok

[wintry narwhal]

No, you are wrong.

I am right.

See what i did?

rule #1

[prime grove]

[tame cobalt]

Battlefield 2042 will be a battlefield game

[arctic grove]

Yeah you can, because that's according to your subjective perceived notion of what a milsim is

you mean babblefield game

[quasi parcel]

what is the main difference between division 1 and 2?

[tribal wyvern]

dude ffs

for the last time, you do not define what a genre is

and squad is listed as part of the milsim genre

so why do you deny squad is a milsim when it is?

[prime grove]

dude what even

[arctic grove]

division 1 is way better pvp division is kinda better pve style

[arctic grove]

Neither does the definition clearly, because Battlefield is not a milsim

[foggy crest]

Washington and new York that's it

[arctic grove]

A lot. Div 2 takes place in Washington DC whereas 1 is in NYC. New enemy factions, gearsets, really just about everything

[limber garden]

I'm starting to be pissed of at this silence on the game

[arctic grove]

Hey

Suppp

Sup

[wintry narwhal]

Goddamn, drop rates.

[tribal wyvern]

bro i'm starting to get pissed this dude either can't read or cherry picks words ffs

again, it says bf has milsim ELEMENTS not IS a milsim itself

[tame cobalt]

[prime grove]

squad is a arcade game, its my OPINION

[arctic grove]

Okay so what makes a milsim a milsim

dark zone was so funnn

in division 1

[wintry narwhal]

A milsim is a milsim if it is a milsim.

Solved it

[arctic grove]

I lived the div 2 when it first came out that’s about it 😅

how many milsim elements does a game need before its a milsim

[quasi parcel]

and the 1 what is in NYC much better?

[arctic grove]

who knows

[wintry narwhal]

I'd say about 73% milsim to count as a milsim

[tribal wyvern]

realistic gameplay, high level of communication to achieve one goal, long games, realistic handling, teamwork is heavily encouraged, punished if not following orders from a superior (commander or squad lead)

[foggy crest]

I ❤️ NY

[arctic grove]

Div 1 is kinda dead nowadays. Everyone is either max level in the DZ or they’re not even playing it

[limber garden]

Mechanics that enforce spacing in a squad

[pulsar junco]

bro anything can be a milsim its not the game its the players dudes milsim in fucking spore

[arctic grove]

yeah exactly

it's a subjective term

[pulsar junco]

its stupid

[limber garden]

Like a frikin nade that can take out an entire team of noobs

[quasi parcel]

Div 2 is not p2w?

[wintry narwhal]

chess is a milsim, change my mind

[pulsar junco]

no

[arctic grove]

all you really need to know if your a pvp guy - division 1 - if your a pve guy go division 2 but division 1 is most likely dead game

[arctic grove]

No

[woeful anchor]

i mean you’re technically not wrong

[arctic grove]

Chess is an unsolvable game

[wintry narwhal]

I will fight you anyway

[tribal wyvern]

Squad is a Tactical Military First Person Shooter in development on Unreal Engine 4 that bridges the gap between serious MilSim titles, and casual shooters. It will feature Combined Arms warfare on maps up to 16km², which will include land vehicles such as IFV, APC, Tanks, ground attack aircrafts and helicopters, alongside infantry.

[tame cobalt]

Spore reference

[tribal wyvern]

bridges the gap between SERIOUS milsim titles and casual shooters

[pulsar junco]

theres so many milsimmers in planetside on jah

[tribal wyvern]

it is by definition a casual milsim

[arctic grove]

Hmmm so it turns out Squad is not entirely a milsim then

[tribal wyvern]

it is, it's a casual one, ofc not to the level of serious ones like ARMA

[woeful anchor]

bf is just more of a milsim compared to cod

[wintry narwhal]

So uh, why is this a point of contention to begin with?

[pulsar junco]

nah

[arctic grove]

what about dayZ

[wintry narwhal]

Couldn't you just be like "Ye, milsims exist, how about them, sports ball games"

[tribal wyvern]

i think that can't be considered a milsim cuz of the whole zombies thing and how comms practically don't exist in it

[limber garden]

People that say bf is milsim should try arma :)

[tribal wyvern]

but lemme check rq

i might be wrong

[limber garden]

See how it goes

[pulsar junco]

tango delta i have a zombie biting my balls over

[tribal wyvern]

huh what do you know

[arctic grove]

Because Lemon for some reason cannot just admit that the definition of Milsim is entirely left up to the persons personal perceived notions of what a Milsim is, nothing is by definition a Milsim because that definition inherently differs for everyone

[terse imp]

Any news about battlefield 2042?

[foggy crest]

Lemon u know this game called ground branch ????

[tribal wyvern]

looks like it CAN be a milsim lmao

[tribal wyvern]

heard of it, what about it?

[quasi parcel]

breakpoint is a good game?

[arctic grove]

ghost recon?

[pulsar junco]

the tank call in is so cool

[tribal wyvern]

there's actual like milsim shit for dayz here so you're not wrong on that it might go out like that

[pulsar junco]

yeah ik

[visual bear]

love some dayz

[pulsar junco]

but idc fuck milsimmers

[tribal wyvern]

i think the reason why is cuz dayz is practically arma with zombies so if you just reintroduce the arma mechanics but keep the zombies dayz is technically a milsim

[foggy crest]

In what category do you think it is ?

[pulsar junco]

they're so annoying

[tribal wyvern]

milsim, it's a breach and clear game right?

or am i thinking of zero hour

[wintry narwhal]

I've gotta agree with deez tbh.

We could make this chat a milsim if we felt like it.

Over.

[arctic grove]

ghost recon wildlands is way better than breakpoint imo

[limber garden]

Not really, tell you why. Armies over the world use variation of arma to train soldier. If not the army then who can give a def to a milsim ,is that subjective to???

[quasi parcel]

yes

[pulsar junco]

its crazy how many vehicles you can have in 2042 16 heavy ground vehicles and 16 light ground vehicles bonkers!

[foggy crest]

Yeah CQB game tactical fps

[tribal wyvern]

yeah exactly, issa milsim

[limber garden]

So arma is milsim and anything similar to it is a milsin

[arctic grove]

Ghost recon

[tribal wyvern]

ghost recon is ehhhhh

[wintry narwhal]

16 tanks? We better be getting some real good anti-vehicle stuff for the infantry

[arctic grove]

The original ghost recon was brilliant

Oh and spectrum warrior

ghost recon is really fun if you do hardest settings no HUD etc

That was good too

[pulsar junco]

fuck that

16 tanks vs 16 will be enough doesnt mean infantry need anything better to take out vehicles

[foggy crest]

It used to really amazing but not it's just another open world rpg type ubisoft game

[tribal wyvern]

btw, steam lists milsims under the category of "simulation"

ground branch, zero hour, hell let loose, post scriptum etc are ON THAT LIST

therefore, they're milsims

[low tinsel]

Anyone interested in assisting in a BF Machinima on the weekend of 15th October with early access to the game please message me 🙂

[pulsar junco]

therefore gobble me nuts

[arctic grove]

wildlands had 94% rated but breakpoint is 73% rated

[prime grove]

cod is milsim

[wintry narwhal]

Machinima is still around? Holy, we're back in the 2000's today

[limber garden]

@low tinsel messaged you

[tribal wyvern]

not close, it's an arcade shooter not realistic by a mile, not under the milsim category

in fact bf hardcore actually comes really close to a milsim btw

[arctic grove]

COD is just fake game

[tribal wyvern]

you get comms to be more important it could be considered a casual milsim

[slim quiver]

@wintry narwhal sorry my response took long. But YES it is a childhood fav

[foggy crest]

If COD will improve its Ground War 😂😂 then I will say it's a casual milsim

[arctic grove]

Cod is fake period.

Cod was an idea created by nasa

[wintry narwhal]

Same, i used to play that in-between sims swimming pool drownings. What a time to be alive

[prime grove]

:(

[uncut furnace]

it will always be a fast paced casual kids game

[arctic grove]

world at war COD was legit though

HQ mode

[wintry narwhal]

I didn't like WaW at all, it felt like such a downgrade from cod4

[foggy crest]

Bro 😂 Battlefield and Cod both has kids audience

[topaz hazel]

Reminder: cod sucks bf good

[wintry narwhal]

Me and my entire friends group finished waw and went straight back to MW

[quasi parcel]

but Cod:MW had very good weapon customizations and shoot

[uncut furnace]

yes.

[arctic grove]

I liked the fast pace nature of cod

[tribal wyvern]

fuck man school starts tmrw

[wintry narwhal]

Protip, you can like more than one thing. It's not a team sport

[quasi parcel]

I hope 2042 will have same or better weapon customization

[arctic grove]

yeah COD 4 was the best one out there

Bo2 was the best imo

Bo2 multiplayer was just mwah

[wintry narwhal]

I'm one of the weird ones that liked ghosts too, i never understood why people gave that one so much shit

[arctic grove]

i dunno feels like WaW was better than Bo2

[foggy crest]

Me too bro that cqb and fast pased combat that's the best thing about it and it's campaign I want cod to improve ground war 😂

[arctic grove]

It was normal to hate cod. It was associated with the 12 year old screamers

for me COD 4 > WaW > bo2

[wintry narwhal]

Oh that's fair

I think that's why i stopped enjoying halo, so checks out

[arctic grove]

mw2 would be my 4th

so many hackers on there back then

[foggy crest]

I love MW19

[arctic grove]

I mean to be honest I enjoyed infinite warfare. That was a severely underrated cod. And it was only avoided because of hate. I haven't met anyone who's made a strong case against infinite warfare yet

[inner elk]

I like how games stopped counting up

[tribal wyvern]

woah hold on i just realized you can make bf a milsim with portal

lmao damn

[wintry narwhal]

The people buying them struggled to count that high

[foggy crest]

How ?

[arctic grove]

knife commando was op af on mw2 and spamming one man army and noobtube on them flags

[inner elk]

Cod 9 or something like that

[foggy crest]

I want to know how

[tribal wyvern]

you can change vehicle handling, ttk, player speeds, disable certain movements, disable hud etc

[arctic grove]

That's funny actually lmao

[wintry narwhal]

63 robots vs 1 tank does look funny

[tribal wyvern]

respawn times aswell

maybe even capture times

[tidal rapids]

ANY NEWS ON THE GAME ?

[fading fossil]

no

[tribal wyvern]

no

[prime grove]

no :)

[tidal rapids]

thx ghuys

[foggy crest]

I want air support listens to ground soldier 😂😂😂 those jets dude starts their own own ace combat

[arctic grove]

anyone thinks robot dog gonna be dogshit?