#battlefield-2042
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high tick servers?

can we get a futuristic type 2a with 200 round mags
you're making no sense you can't change xp
okok, here me out, weaponized pringles can
clearly don't know how to explain proper english mate
128 tick bf2042 servers when
1 man army vs 127 chicken only XP game mode
instead of dancing around what you meant, maybe tag the message that you wrote?
oh soo you're judging me for english not being my main language
Sup
Don't need XP farm when game fun to play
Thugs
i hope the servers are 60hz
Just give us an actual gameplay video, DICE.
they will according to previous bf games

all officials are 60hz
good
yeah consoles
When is bf release date

Dice can't give proper gameplay because it's gonna make Battlefield 4's launch look stable
PC master race
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we will probably see some after the playtesting
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I'm just surprised we have not gotten more gameplay footage
they moved away from 3rd party server hosting
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cry about it
should they add a weaponized pringle can launcher
just 30 ticks make such a huge difference
I'm waiting for real gameplay from multiple games and no one's offering.
Hogwarts Legacy, 2042, STALKER 2.
Its either short or scripted
This is a slow year in gaming
M back 😂
its the pandemic after all
Wasnt hogwarts legacy delayed to 2022
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Pandemic -> software industry
they are still largely working from home
so productivity is prob not as high as it was before
in their office?
depends on where you live
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some places you cant even go to work
yeah sure
or school
Wagwan
Stop giving excuses, a pandemic isn't stopping ea from showing gameplay
School is much worse; there are no cubicles.
No excuse
which country?
Sorry don't like to give it away
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School is bad
prob cuz there were massive infected numbers lol
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i think theyre just keeping from us to build hype so when it does drop ppl will care a lot more
Why would they, if their game is great, show some gameplay
Teenagers are more or less invincible to corona.
and they said the capital had the most infected
That's false
devs do this all the time
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then don't ask
if they KNOW their game is great, theyll keep fans on their toes just to make the impact of showing more things that much better
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Excuse me good sir but what about college hmmm?
Lol me too sometimes politics can be very mulitplative
College in most countries you barely have time to damn sleep
Yo so why doesn't crossplatform work with BF2042?
When we can set map sizes for the game
there is
confirmed map sizes
for official 2042 maps
😃
i think he means ps4 and ps5
We will see when battlefield comes 💀
I really dislike when people take up for these companies, a company expects people to preorder from a CGI trailer, but when it's time to show gameplay, they show 55 seconds and like 30 seconds of it was actual shooting.
i doubt ps4 and xbox one are gonna run beyond 30 fps
I presume its not just the map, older consoles not being able to handle 128 players is probably the main issue
I mean like PS4 against PS5
💀
and ur cheating
people say ur cheating
only to say
"Playing on console , sorry"
i got aim assist
And or Xbox one against Xbox series X
💀
performance reasons, on top of everything else
If the old consoles could handle 128 players they would have done it
But the hardware is old and outdated
last gen consoles wont run beyond 30 fps
Cross-platform... either console players will have aim assist that gives them an advantage or PC players will wipe the floor with them
Which will it be
since when
also why do people make crossplay seem like it has to be controller v kbm
if they just put kbm support on console and make it input based matchmaking, there would be no issue
what if they enable m+k support on consoles
They tried
it seems consoles
delay them

well, game A isnt the same as bf2042
most of the crossplay games do that lmao
you can bet your ass that both microsoft and sony will eventually enable m+k on every game
fortnite, mw19, wz, bocw, minecraft
Isn't modern warfare the only one that supports it
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all have kbm support on console
someone who agrees
There is big difference between consoles and pc
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if theres m+k support on consoles
what can't u guys understand
then its a non issue
Who tf matchmakes in bf anyways
m+k wont make a damn difference
i matchmake in bf
hell xbox lets you browse menus with kbm
cuz cba to search for servers
Server browser is better
Barely anyone on console uses kbm anyway
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it's not about that consoles should have m+k support on everything
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what different problems
it has?
Are they going to add a vote kick system? It is the simplest, cheapest and arguably most affective way to deal with cheaters…
ps5 and series x are basically pc's
but if they added the option to play with kbm on console and made matchmaking input based, all of this stupid "console vs pc" garbage would end
they dont support beyond 120hz
community servers
Can the steam deck handle 2042, find out next year
but thats fine lol
Aight fam
probably
not everyone games beyond 144hz on pcs either
gonna wait for the 2042 crossplatform
its why dice needs a better anti cheat or they might as well cut cost on servers
and amount of exploits
Is there going to be cross platform?
and cheating
yes
what anti cheat they use will be the most important thing
Yes.
and how fast they can catch cheaters
WOOOO
Anti cheat?
we need kernel level anti cheat
but since its not F2P
anti cheat seems like an extra wall for cheat makers
It's already too late for bf2042 they got hacked recently and lost of ton of info
They don’t need anti cheat they need votekick
it wont be infested with cheaters like wz
they bypass anti cheats
battleye/EAC would be good enough
But then DICE is going to know all of our guilty pleasures
no matter how strong u say it is
it makes it less affordable to cheat
If you can't destroy chopper by stabbing them with a knife, will they really care about the fans?
Affordable?
With votekick, everybody can be moderator kind of
There are people in the world
some preventation is better than none
no one who complains about anti cheat actually knows how it works
votekick is not a great option, cuz people will kick out actual legit players that just play good
who beated good game anticheats
Look at CSGO
how many methods of anti cheat
they had
every anticheat to exist has been bypassed
they still got bypassed
same for DRM
hello 😄
of course it has
not saying about VAC
Maybe, but I would rather have that if it meant no game breaking cheaters
with trust factor and ive rarely encountered cheaters when i played
cheats for game that has EAC/Battleye are really expensive
Most of them
and lots of exit scams happen
tend to hide the cheats
by just wallhacking
gets detected in waves
even if i wallhacked
i can hide them
not being an idiot
and trying not to hide them
i just want kernel level anti cheat that does its job
compared to cheats in VAC which never gets detected
I still need to see actual gameplay
One thing I find weird is that Battlefield V showed and described how games will actually feel way before the beta or Gamescom came by and needed to be delayed
Battlefield 2042 is apparently way, way, way ahead of schedule and has not shown or even described one bit how games play and only showed "Hey, you can do these Only in Battlefield moments again!"
so some preventation is always good
vanguard for example is a really great anti cheat
The best thing you can really do is prosecute the cheat makers
Have you guys heard about the AI learning cheat which is undetectable because it basically offers aim assist via a HID (human input device)?
they always show themselves, even if you try to hide
yea vanguard is really good
this
I cheated on Counter Strike Source
How hard can it be
if player.cheating = true
Then ban;
not possible as of now
lol
a long while ago
It is
its really buggy and doesnt work that well
what do u prosecute cheat makers for?
It’s only going to become more and more developed
what could they possibly sell
yeah they can
:0
you get sued

cease and desist for cheats
and they stop

"Cheating is bad"
How graphically demanding do you think 2042 will be!
Cheater: "Ok have nice day"
well, i can spot cheaters quite well in cs, ive played enough and at a high level to bait and notice cheaters
Why Dice still use Fairfight? If it is not effective to detect cheater.
Just don't market the game in China.
That's like, the majority of the guys flying around with invincibility on
i dont think itll be graphically demanding at all
@cloud zodiac what about titanfall
Bruh i've had 3 admins once on me
they tought i was legit
why dont they just sue the guy crashing their servers constantly
region locking china is a good way to prevent cheating honestly
Do you mean West Taiwan?
Better not be, I really don’t know if my computer can run it when it has a little trouble with BFV
titanfall doesnt have any client sided anticheat
cs source is one thing, i didnt play it that much, but csgo is another
Leave Taiwan alone
CSGO Community servers
honestly if i got region locked because someone thought my country cheats, i'd use a vpn and only ever cheat in that game
cheating for weakk ass white bois
China, Indians and Russians are the ones
mostly cheating
All profit from West Taiwan is totally curse.
CSGO Matchmaking is so lame , i've dropped with people the same as my rank
Fuc China I’m going to have to serve mandatory 4 months in Taiwan military when I turn 18
i think itll be very physics heavy and just generally cpu demanding going off the sheer scale of the game so far
anyone can run community servers, ive had admins banning me on local community servers cuz they thought i cheated, but in most cases, they are your average player
MULTIPLE TIMES
im not talking about anticheat im talking about the guy that crashes their servers
why isnt he sued yet
Well yeah
every1 gets banned by salty admins
at a point
ask respawn
lol
its the devs decision
Just four months? They could force you into at least a two year contract
but when i played on actual good servers
this happened to me in bo1
and i cheated
they prob would sue if they did it to apex
still didn't got banned
but ig
Idc I’ll enjoy it either way
the admin was throwing a fit and i called him a child
sadly cs doesnt tell you anymore that the player you reported got banned, i used to get quite a lot of those messages when i reported cheaters
i still do get em
tbf, i dont actively play cs anymore, for a couple of years, so maybe thats why
Also, who here realizes that if they make a map editor the community will literally make the game for them
Image playing custom maps combined with game modes in portal
There is no map editor in Portal Mode.
i doubt
It sounds good to me

exactly
even if it does split
Sure I am one of them.
Portal literally seems like an extra 3 games added to me
it doesnt make a difference in playerbase much
portal is playing on the nostalgia hit
cus lots of people are gonna fill up the server anyway
people will drop portal in a month
once the nostalgia novelty falls off a bit, people will play regular 2042 as well
it's not just nostalgia
it's about u being able to make ur own scenarios and modes
yeah, and how many people actually play bf3 TODAY
I just hope portal doesn’t become an equivalent to Fortnite creative mode…
not that many
Well Portal mode you can own server and play solo with bot.
Those who are over gameplay not damn graphics
its not about the nostalgia, maps from bc2 and bf3 are amazing
and rush mode
and its still not a lot of people who play, regardless of graphics
Because if you wouldn't cry
about how dead it is
and just come and play
bf3 feels strange compared to bf4
movement, animations
!when
disgusting blue filter
Idk how they will do the bot thing though. Client sided will literally require a super computer but if the game hosts the bots… people playing with 123 other bots will literally break the servers…
and 30hz servers only
i have no connection to bf3, so i dont really care about it
30hz is way more depressing
then stop complaining about it
and you cant tell people whats fun and whats not
I heard there is bot support in this mode too.
its very subjective
I like the bots. Makes half full servers less miserable
just cuz you enjoy bf3 and not bf5, thats on you
I just don’t want the game to end up like Cyberpunk or BF4 at launch with no working servers
theres plenty of people who enjoy playing bf5
It will maake popping servers a breeze
Why r u pessimistic

ofc steam numbers because most people don't even know what is origin
everyone uses steam
Bf5 is dying, cuz of cheaters
I’m not, I’m sure it will be a great game. Im just worried about the technical side of it… a lot of it seems a bit too ambitious
well, bf5 only recently launched on steam
yes because it had the big announcement
i doubt many people who had it on origin bought it again for steam
on steam shop front page
when ea games released on steam
with ea play
but Bad Company 2
U think so ? 3 years of development
I’m probably not gonna but 2042 until at least 2 weeks after release
I see
3 years of dev is arguably little compared to others. In fact, for a project this large it could be not enough
script can't buy me trust
Hope Battlefield 2042 will not be Battlefield 2077.

cyberpunk took
what 7-8 years
Ye but it’s battlefield, not cyberpunk
cyberpunk changed directions more times than they can count
Does that really make a difference after the got their reputation following BFV…
My head is soo big
it's bullet proof
My cocc is
Almost 1 year, the bugs still ruin the Cyberpunk.


and johnny silverhand character wasnt even suppose to play a big part in the game
Hoping so
but seeing how people reacted to keanu reeves playing him, they had to redo the entire story
I have no doubt 2042 will be wonderful I’m just worried about launch that’s it
Cyberpunk actually pulled a big brain move tbh
they knew people will buy their game
if they tried to make it look legit
Yep, they basically legally scammed the gaming community
the demo 45 minute demo that they released was pre keanu reeves
and the game that it was back then was probably in a much more polished state than post keanu reeves
You don't know how many salty people
i've met
when i said Cyberpunk actually sucked
How cringe it was to play this game after seeing that hype
because their big brains
buyed that game
despite many people saying
"Too good to be true"
i bought it, i enjoyed it
i even got banned from a discord server after
Ill probably buy it a year or two after release
the owner got scammed
I bought it, I didn’t enjoy it as i wanted to
Jesus
High risk, high return.
First rule of gaming
never buy games that look to good to be true
wait for reviews and proper
gameplay
Yeee
honestly, reviews dont tell me shit
meh true
what person A liked or didnt like has no effect on me
True, look for the community input as well
it can be people
that are payed by so people
to give it a good review
Cyberpunk was soo bad
i dont care if they got a paid review or not, it barely tells me anything
They have 3 months left before release.
I’m pretty sure the people who reviewed it must have played on a super computer
I hate that games today
most reviews that i read they played on a pretty high end pc
Which explains the lack of complaint about lag
Can this game release today please
at least on a 2080
I test on super GTX1060 laptop.
:0
i mean i've seen
my GTX 1650 can run it
let's say good
but my CPU
hell naw
oven
@arctic grovecyberpunk release incident
you dont have to play on highest graphics to get great visuals
as soon i enter the game

a lot of games today look pretty good on low settings
😦
highest graphics?
most games today
compared how they looked 10 years ago
lag even on lowest graphics
What's your cpu?
i5 3470
lol
Omg it’s a good idea I will patch you straight through to the ceo rn
not true at all
bruh, youre on 3rd gen intel
of course every game is gonna lag for you
Ok then. I see bottleneck.
you cant expect devs to make games that run on that old hardware
it's more expensive than a damn car here
press X to doubt
oh shut up
how much expensive is
in ur countr
huh?
which cpu
Which country?
and ill tell you
i dunno
Bro. RTX 30 series and new cpu gen is lack here.
So I will go for laptop.
the one u probably want to geit
is running on mining losers
....
thats pretty much msrp for that cpu
Damn miner.
but you dont need a good cpu for mining lol
press x to doubt
They need to use pickaxe instead of GPU. LOL
some can utilize cpu
btw
the most popular coins use gpus for mining
it also depends on what youre mining
and thats what majority is mining for
Honestly, the only game I pre ordered that blew me away was doom 4 (2016)
the popular ones arent profitable anyways so it doesnt matter
I hope i can get a 3070 soon enough
well, it depends how many rigs you have
BF 2042 will work better on Windows 11. 
if you have a single gpu, its not profitable
But it's never released, isn't it?
have u seen the documentary on russians
they have a damn factory
looking like a damn facking server room
itll take you a long time to make a profit mining those coins
The one we know yes, but the original version of it no
and there are parts in my country where they dont pay for electricity
I just say doom 4 cause its technically the fourth made doom game
so they are profiting quite well
oh then maybe there you might have a good chance
Look like many place on the earth face CPU and GPU shortage.

theres a lot of people who have some kind of schemes
where they pay very little for electricity
even in serbia, people were buying gpus like crazy to mine
and most likely because they have a way to bypass the bills
solar panels
nah
is that a 2042 channel or a mining channel?
in a non legit way to bypass
i dunno good point
i liked doom 2016 more than eternal tbh
eternal is used for memes
YES
eternal was good, but the last boss fight was very anti climatic
apart from some obvious cheese ways to play 2016, its much more memorable for me than eternal
same
Music of the year.
WAY BETTER
its not even close
eternal is fine, but its just not as memorable as 2016
the only thing they fear is you is the only soundtrack thats memorable for me in eternal
i think what it was for me is that there was such a long time inbetween the last doom game and 2016 that it felt way more intense and better. eternal was only like a few years after and it was good but not the same feel
more like quake than doom
tho im a firm believer in saying that Doom 3 was an underrated game
Battlefield Eternal​
It's similar to dead space game.
exactly
Looking back, as much as I enjoyed eternal. Doom 4 felt like a "we're back everyone" sort of thing
Love it
man i cant wait for the dead space remake
exactly!
sucks we wont see it until about 2023 or so
Why it's take so long?
Another underrated game that seems to slip by everyones memory: Area 51. That game was a freaking blast. It also had a Doom 3 vibe to it
The fucking pre release gameplay watched looked so good, with the death animations
Heard about that
well we only saw a crazy short teaser
so its safe to assume another year and a half or so until release
Area 51 had one of the most intense openings as a kid
its also freeware now btw
you can download area 51 on legitimate sites
even mod DB has the full release on its site
Time is coming to Portal or Battlefield 4
I thought 2021 was going to be kind of slow for games
but really it was just that everything releasing in a 3 months span
from like october -december
BF has a lot of games releasing around it
What time will come Battlefield 4 Portal
Back4Blood, FaryCry 6, Dying light 2
at release
I've been trying to play games and to pass the time
oh it definitely has my interest
Reee
same way
Yeah far cry 5 was so... eh
i was at the store earlier and i saw the xbox series s on the shelf and man its super small
graphically, its underwhelming, but the gameplay looks pretty decent
yeah theyre tiny
What time will come Battlefield 4 Portal
Isn't the Series X smaller than some books?
they need to make like a 350$ version with a disc drive on the series s
@worldly star idk i might get it over the ps5 some day
Far Cry 5 has knife mods
What time will come Battlefield 4 Portal
far cry 2 will always be my all time favorite
xbox game pass is a great deal
Holy fuck calm down
im gonna be getting one for my brother
Stalker 2?
hes 8, he doesnt need the full series x and 4k and all that
i think i'll get a ps5 cause most of my friends have playstation @worldly star
he plays fortnite on switch, i think hell be fine with the 1440p resolution lmao
Yes PS5 is good one.
ps5s are way more expensive
thats why im not getting one
yet
ill wait till i can get it at retail
im gonna be honest
they're impossible to get now
i got a ps5 at msrp, and i play it less than my series x
they should be widely available by christmas time or 2022
i got it for demon souls and the exclusives but so far no exclusives have caught my eye as much
the first one was good
i wonder what happened to the pc port of ffvii
it was leaked via egs
i wonder where it went
When I first played far cry 1 I used to just kill the pigs because I was scared of fighting people, eventually my mum got me off the game because it was all I was doing.
Note I was 5 doing this.
but, i'll be getting bf 2042 on pc cause it'll support 128 players
on my ps4 it will have 64 players
i can just plug in my ps4 controller and play on pc
thats the move

So when are we gonna see gameplay of this game?
most likely after the playtest
We already did
@tame token jurky is beef
Videos of gameplay
trailer gameplay is not quite the same
but it is gameplay
we need raw gameplay
trailer gameplay shows how the game looks and feels, not really how it plays out
like that atv c5 scene with the helicopter
not really gonna happen too much in game
I just wanna know how a regular match feels like
I don't play a game for what can happen every 20 matches
Most folk here pre-order the $120 version?
No
no the 90$ one i think
When is the play test happening
I think most people went for Gold
I’m not talking about the beta
august
But the play test
lmfao
That’s the public beta
If they add back operations in battlefield 2042, it would be heaven
tomorrow
no it isnt
thats the play test
beta is in september
Need to research the differences between the 90 &120
Ultimate Edition is just too expensive for what's pretty much just an extra skin
For some reason in my mind I still think august is like 30 days away. But I think you’re right
120$ version has artbook, soundtrack, and some extra skins
thats all
99$ just for a online only game
So if console gets the Ultimate edition how do they get the artbook?
all of this has been confirmed
Good to know
Look up, link $93 for ultimate
its like another game in the library
@tame token really dude
stolen keys?
Wonder what operations might be in 2042
youre recommending ppl buy stolen keys.
Nope greenmangaming is reputable
just buy the game on steam
i mean it's not always stolen
sometimes some countries have cheaper prices than others
Just get it through Steam or Origin
But I bought on steam
:Pilot:
Man i've bought soo many games from g2a
sorry but im not giving 90$ to some key site
and did not get stolen

I too buy shitty sunglasses from the Flea-Market
"THE ONES WHO HAVES THE MOST BUYS"
Add operations back in 2042
i mean those key sites use like fraud and other methods to get keys for free
bro paying more than 60 for a game just for some cosmetics is a waste of money lmao
I'm on Xbox so def getting digital and a hard copy on sale
so you get a discount but the game makers get 0 revenue
Stay mad
I don't think Greenmangaming is a typical keysite
I too get angry at how people spend their money
cope
lol
It's not your money ,it's not your decision stay out of what people do not worth getting mad at
Greenmangaming is well known actually
I've wasted enough money on Warzone lol
Battlepass.
Worth that bigger price tag for me
ok boomer
After the lawsuit business I ain't buying anything from Activision fucking ever
you're right, and there are a lot of people who are dumb in this world

Considering I'm gonna put hundreds of hours into the game
Same
It's 4 Battlepasses
All Battlepasses of the first year
still no sign up for bf2042 playtest
So you spending a $100 for the game if you include BP
No, the 4 Battlepasses are part of the Gold Edition, which is cheaper
$30 for a year's battle pass hmm
I personally bought ultimate, had it refunded, then bought gold edition. Changed my mind entirely.
And gold is $90 right?
i mean the battle pass might be full of shit like cod so
Gold is $89.99
gold is 90 on pc
is it?
big brain
almost 100 for a video game lol
i thought it was 80
Might be the move I go for $90... 30 for a extra skin ain't that deep.
i just looked
oh wow
And in euros its actually more than $90+
ig only the ultimate edition gets the 10$ discount
how much money did you spend for warzone skins? just curious
I mean with standard edition you get the game and that’s the most important thing so
That's cheaper than the R6 Seasons which I used to buy until I stopped that game.
No more than 30 for the year it's been out.
Which edition
its like 30$ for 3 skin packs and 4 battlepasses
with the gold
pretty good imo
The gold edition @long plinth
Game Pass gives you a discount on Battlefield 2042
Wow really? No joke?
Exactly, for me that's worth it.
90€ for a game I'm gonna play 500 hours is decent.
Yea sir
Nice!
It's 90€ in Germany
100 in France
im gonna easily put more than 500 hours into 2042 lmao
On Steam and Origin
120€
ultimate is 110 in germany
141$
110 usd
Took off a week from work just for the game lol
on console its 120 usd
Console 🤡
For next-gen console it is $120 usd
Right, console versions are 10 bucks more expensive
On console the ultimate edition is about 120€
bc you get 2 copies
I got the gold edition for 90 euros mostly for the week early acess....
one version on last gen one on current gen
No, even standard edition is
Ye, bought it for the year pass and pre release
thats ea being shitty
🗿
🗿
Well it's a one time payment so, the battle passes come after one year though.
Right, Gold Edition plays a week earlier, correct?
Yes
yes
Yes
Nice!
One more yes and I cut my dick
bf 2042 is the second game ive ever preordered

i dont pre order games much
It’s risky
What lol.....
Ye he’s right
I don’t think I’ve pre ordered w game before this
first pre order ever was mw19
Maybe I’m forgetting one
Cyberpunk scammed us
Maybe I'm just old man I guess.. lol
Same first game I pre ordered in years
The only games I regret pre ordering was anthem
i got a pre order for bocw and cyberpunk 2077 but i didnt purchase them
they were gifts
Cyberpunk big disappointment
Wasn't there supposed to be a closed beta for BF 2042 in August?
I agree 100% @burnt swan
alpha playtest
Story was solid but the game itself is so lifeless
!when
First thing I pre-ordered was a Nintendo GameCube
Cyberpunk could of been planned out more strategitcally.
How you downgrade from Witcher 3 so badly
Last thing I pre-ordered was the Newest MW
Witcher 3 combat was janky too
I think Cyberpunk 2077 and Witcher 3 have mostly the same weaknesses and strengths.
Cyberpunk is just even more buggy.
i stand by the fact that the ps4 and xbox one versions of cyberpunk were the reason the game came out bad for everything
Witcher had more sidequests I suppose
Should have never released for last gen
will the levkov tank series return?
Do you happen to know what else is releasing for last gen
They planned out fixing the bugs of Witcher 3 more than they have of Cyberpunk 2077.
I played Cyberpunk 2077 on PC and it was pretty good.
Not the game changer some people hyped it up to be, but still fun.
they had to downgrade the game for ps4 and xb1, and since they had downgraded it there, it got downgraded on pc since they had to be the same game
Same
Ran really good
But the game was boring
Took me 60 hours to complete the story
After that I just deleted it
2042 is for sure
I wasted 16 hours of my life in NFS Hot Pursuit Remastered
Took me 100 hours I believe.
Finished all side quests before finishing the story
Yes that is what I am getting at here
Witcher 3 I had like 150+ hours
Played the main story and the dlcs
Modded the shit out of my game
So many graphics mods
Well, Cyberpunk will still get DLCs, might add another 50 hours
Lmao that’s never gonna happen
They still gotta fix their game
If anything they might release the next gen version of Witcher 3 first
They're actually working on the free DLCs right now
It’s gonna have ray tracing
They are getting dlcs, the ceo said they are pleased with the stability of the game, there will be no more fixes
And full scale add on like W3 had will come as well
But it’s still buggy as hell




